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00:01:53.000Joining us now is Ana Paulina Luna, who i'm very proud of how she handled last week and got a great deal for the American people.
00:02:17.000So initially, you know, I think a lot of people were saying that and it wasn't their, entirely their fault right, the mainstream um, friendly media that we thought had our backs was basically saying that because we were having these debates and discussions, that somehow we were, you know, preventing the entire country from moving forward.
00:02:37.000But my response to that was these discussions were long overdue and there were certain things which i've always been transparent, especially in Washington, about.
00:02:46.000You know what i'm fighting for right, and really what helped shape that ideology is is really my time on the campaign trail.
00:02:55.000I had interacted with many, many people over the last four years and the one thing that kept resonating and what they kept saying is they wanted me to go there, but they didn't want me to just fall in line and do the same thing, because they realized that the system was broken.
00:03:09.000So um, to you know, the credit Credit of the Republican Party, there were some good things that were already the foundation of what now Speaker McCarthy wanted to do for our country, but it could have been better.
00:03:21.000And I think that I will say that I appreciate everyone who worked so hard.
00:03:26.000I know Representative Byron Donalds, Representative Chip Roy, Dan Bishop, so many of them to actually hammer out the terms of these negotiations.
00:03:36.000But, you know, it was definitely something that I think invigorated the base and really showed the country that Congress is supposed to go and have these debates on the House floor.
00:04:10.000And in our audience, because our audience has been betrayed so much over the weekend.
00:04:15.000Yeah, just really quick, over the weekend from the speaker vote to the rules package, I received thousands of emails of people saying, Charlie, it's not, they're going to do a game.
00:04:24.000It's not going to be in the rules package, but it actually is.
00:04:29.000So one of the biggest things and really what was a deal breaker for me was the motion to vacate the chair.
00:04:35.000So that is actually probably the single most important thing in the rules package because it's an accountability mechanism.
00:04:41.000What it does is it allows any one member of the Republican majority to come down to the floor anytime, any place, and basically make a motion to have the entire Republican conference vote on whether or not the speaker of the house should be removed.
00:04:54.000That's incredibly important because let's say, God forbid, Speaker McCarthy did not do what he said he was going to do.
00:05:01.000We could basically use that as an accountability tool and recall.
00:05:06.000And it really does give power back to the representatives.
00:05:09.000And interestingly enough, of all people, and there's not a lot that I even agree with Paul Ryan on, but he even said that when he was speaker, that he had too much power and that because of what had happened with these negotiations and now this deal, it really decentralized power within our Congress, which is what it needs to be.
00:05:26.00072 hours to read bills, surprise, surprise.
00:05:29.000You know, the Democrats were pushing a lot of bills in front of Republican representatives.
00:05:34.000We didn't have time to read the bills and then they would force us to vote.
00:05:36.000They also have something called single subject germaneness, which means that they have to push a bill and it has to be on that topic.
00:05:42.000They can't put a bunch of random stuff in a bill and basically pass massive funding and people won't have to be in that situation of, oh, well, you know, there's some good stuff for my district in it.
00:05:52.000So I had to vote on it, but there's all this bad stuff as well.
00:05:56.000But also too, we saw and we've actually begun the process now.
00:05:59.000We are going to be voting on term limits on the Texas plan, on the Fair Tax Act.
00:06:04.000So there's a lot of good things in there.
00:06:06.000And then also more importantly, the budget.
00:06:08.000You know, there's a promise and you're seeing that now unfold with the appointment of conservatives to the Appropriations Committee and also the House Rules Committee to really have a balanced budget within 10 years, also cut some of the spending by $132 billion.
00:06:23.000And people think that that's defense spending.
00:06:25.000I want to be clear, defense spending was never brought up.
00:06:28.000It was actually specifically for some of those ridiculous programs that the Biden administration put in effect.
00:06:34.000So really to kind of stop some of this crazy spending that we're seeing out of federal governments.
00:06:38.000And then also to finally, you know, the Rules Committee, which is the committee that controls all the legislation for the entire country, was really only comprised of a few members and those members were not conservative.
00:06:51.000And so a lot of the legislation that we saw in 2016, when President Trump had the House, the Senate, and also the executive branch, you want to know why there was no legislation for his border wall funding.
00:07:02.000And it was because of those people on that rules committee.
00:08:09.000The representatives do indeed have the power.
00:08:11.000And again, I will say that I do applaud now Speaker McCarthy for embracing that.
00:08:16.000I think that he understands and realizes that a United Republican conference with differing ideas is actually more powerful and more effective, especially against this radical left.
00:08:25.000And what you're seeing now, I don't know if you saw the clip from yesterday, but he's also talking about releasing all of the files from January 6th so the American people can truly understand what happens.
00:08:35.000And, you know, I'll just put this out there and say this.
00:08:38.000Whenever Democrats think that you are a threat, they will label you as an extremist or an election denier and attempt to insult your intellectual integrity or discredit you.
00:08:48.000But if you look at that, that's really just gaslighting Americans because what we did doesn't just affect Republicans.
00:08:56.000And I can tell you as a representative here in Pinellas County, that a lot of the people that I represent are not extremist election deniers or any of what they try to sort us into that.
00:09:07.000We believe that big government has no place in our personal lives.
00:09:11.000And also to things like maybe parents should be more empowered than the federal government.
00:09:15.000Those are all bits and pieces of the legislation that I hope to bring forward to the floor.
00:09:18.000And I look forward to working with our Republican majority.
00:09:21.000And I mean, you're doing a fabulous job of fighting for it and really posting wins.
00:09:26.000MSNBC went after you and Turning Point USA, by the way, where we sent a legal letter to them threatening a lawsuit.
00:09:33.000And I think we're going to be tweeting that out at some point.
00:09:36.000It said, a Latina version of Lauren Bobert, Ana Paulina Luna, followed the MAGA playbook to gain political fame.
00:09:44.000She has ties to Kevin McCarthy's opponent, Representative Matt Gates, and has worked with what I consider to be a MAGA white supremacist cult, Turning Point USA.
00:09:53.000Boy, they're going to hear from our lawyers.
00:09:55.000They've already heard from our lawyers.
00:09:56.000This is a moment in 2019 before she decided to first run for Congress.
00:09:59.000She decided to stop using her married name, blah, blah, blah, changed to Luna.
00:10:02.000And it says a MAGA Latina House member is not as shocking as you'd think.
00:10:07.000These are the same people that failed to condemn the racist and derogatory comments that Nancy Pelosi and Jill Biden have made about the Hispanic demographic.
00:10:15.000And I would argue for this reporter, if you think that I'm a white supremacist, you and I clearly have differences in what that definition means, because I'm absolutely not.
00:10:23.000But it just goes to show that conservative minorities are a threat and they're going to attack us accordingly.
00:10:28.000I mean, what they call Larry Elder when he ran for governor, the black face of white supremacy.
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00:11:46.000So, Ana, any other thoughts on this MSNBC hit job on both you and Turning Point USA?
00:11:52.000Well, I'm just glad that you guys are pursuing it legally.
00:11:55.000You know, being that Turning Point is such a massive conservative organization, I've witnessed it firsthand the amount of minority students that have felt that they have been kind of left alone and Turning Point provides a space for them to get involved.
00:12:07.000So, the fact that they are attacking both myself and the organization as a whole, I'm really glad that you guys are pursuing it legally.
00:12:13.000I think for far too long, these outlets have gotten away with straight-up slander.
00:12:18.000And as a public figure, it is harder for me to basically protect myself.
00:12:23.000But I do think that you guys are in the right for that, and I will be with you guys every step of the way.
00:12:26.000Definitely take it to the mat with them.
00:12:31.000Representative Schiff says: look, the only thing we should be worrying about is violent right-wing militias, play cut 55.
00:12:38.000The committee will also seek to discredit law enforcement like the FBI, who are so important in the fight against domestic violent extremism.
00:12:48.000Republicans in Congress just don't care.
00:12:52.000The greatest threat, the greatest terrorist threat to our country comes from violent right-wing militia groups and their sympathizers.
00:13:01.000And Republicans in Congress just don't care.
00:13:05.000Now, Ana, he's ranting, and I love when he gets really upset.
00:13:28.000I really hope, and I'm looking forward to, I believe I'll be on House Oversight, but I look forward to working with the many private journalists in this country to really uncover what happened.
00:13:37.000You know, it's really alarming about what Schiff is saying and really about how the FBI has been weaponized against not just the American people, but people that are in politics.
00:13:45.000Look, we all know that President Trump's house was raided by the FBI, and then all of a sudden there were photos leaking of the raid, and yet that's not happening to Joe Biden.
00:13:54.000We all know that he had classified documents in his garage.
00:13:57.000You know, the FBI focusing on parents at school board meetings instead of some of the actual terrorists on the terrorist watch list that are being now trafficked basically at our southern border.
00:14:08.000You know, these are all very alarming things.
00:14:10.000And so what you're seeing is fear-mongering, but what we're seeing also is the gross overreach of the federal government.
00:15:20.000You know, President Trump is known for the art of the deal, and there were many times that I actually had either heard from him or I talked to him directly.
00:15:28.000And I think what President Trubb understands and realizes is what we did in the House is really in an effort to avoid what we're currently seeing in the Senate, especially under Mitch McConnell.
00:15:38.000And so I think that President Trump really was someone that we can attribute some of the success to.
00:15:44.000But I think more importantly, it's going to be attributed to those members that came together, went to the drawing board, went back and forth, and ultimately came to an agreement.
00:15:53.000And I will say this: Representative Gates definitely has a spine.
00:15:57.000And if it weren't for Representative Gates, I don't think that we would have had some of the great agreements that we came to.
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00:18:08.000And the reason he's mad at me is that I said to him last week when I went in, I said, I think there's been great information in here, especially the FBI stuff.
00:18:18.000And it's gotten lost in these super long threads.
00:18:21.000What I'm going to do with what I write is I'm going to highlight and I'm going to link to my substack.
00:18:27.000And basically, I thought he was fine with that.
00:18:29.000I did that Monday on mine, which was about Scott Gottlieb and Pfizer and how they had, you know, Pfizer or Gottlieb personally had pushed the censor vaccine critics, including a former guy he worked with in the Trump administration.
00:19:12.000And the really good stuff has gotten a little bit lost.
00:19:15.000And it's made worse by the fact that, you know, places like the New York Times or the New York or wherever that, you know, the mainstream slash elite slash liberal media will not cover. what's happening, except in this sort of like, oh, Elon's up to something kind of way.
00:19:33.000So to me, again, the fact that, you know, that a board member in Pfizer was pushing to suppress vaccine debate is a big story.
00:19:41.000The fact that, you know, the FBI was going to Twitter with individual tweets they wanted polls is a big story.
00:19:48.000And unfortunately, as, you know, as big a platform as Twitter is and as big an audience as Elon has, he's not the whole media and it's gotten a little bit lost.
00:19:58.000It has gotten a little lost and it was it was highly covered with a lot of attention, the first kind of drips, right?
00:20:06.000But the volume of information, at least my public relations feedback would be have a filter team, find the 10 to 15 smoking guns, and then release all of it in these massive volumes of bit.lys if you really want to get to the 7,000 pages of some kind of very nuanced correspondence.
00:20:29.000But people's attention span are, they're just not going to go through that.
00:20:33.000I mean, they're acting as if it's a, how do I say this?
00:20:37.000They're acting as if that everyone has the interest of a public investigator or the kind of journalist tenacity that you've been doing for quite some time.
00:20:44.000In reality, to be able to win public consensus that there is a collusion network between the government and Twitter, you got to kind of get to the facts quickly, if that makes sense.
00:22:27.000And in fact, I think that's something that people on the right who may be aggravated by some of the stuff that's turned up have to think about because you're going to wind up suing Elon.
00:22:40.000And that's, you know, if you're in favor of him doing this, you're then punishing him for that.
00:22:44.000And so that's been my, that's what stopped me so far.
00:22:48.000Now, what I might do, at least in my circumstance, I might sue the Department of Homeland Security because now we have evidence that the government was the one actually lobbying to get me censored via grants distributed.
00:23:00.000But that's a separate topic for a different time.
00:23:31.000He was definitive that he had not had direct contact with Twitter on censorship.
00:23:37.000And the guy, and say what you want about Fauci, the guy is very savvy.
00:23:41.000And if he was willing to go to that, you know, sort of degree of certainty when on all the other stuff, he was bobbing and weaving and saying he didn't remember.
00:23:50.000I think you're right to wonder what's really going to turn up.
00:23:54.000The other unfortunate problem is that we know in addition to email, in addition to the Twitter Slack channels, and in addition to something called Jiro, which was sort of an internal Twitter support panel, all that stuff is searchable.
00:24:07.000Look, Twitter was going to have phone calls.
00:24:09.000They were going to, you know, maybe their lobbyists were going to meet people at the NIH in person.
00:24:14.000Maybe they were going to have signal chats.
00:24:16.000Maybe they were going to have text messages.
00:24:44.000I mean, that's hype squad on steroids there.
00:24:48.000Well, Elon, Elon is, he's under an enormous amount of stress running Twitter, running Tesla, running SpaceX.
00:24:58.000He, you know, he's, I will say he is, as far as I can tell, what he, when he talks about the woke mind virus, and he talks about his concerns about, you know, sort of the way Twitter was used and the way Twitter used itself, right?
00:25:12.000The way Twitter's executive used the platform to amplify, you know, super liberal doctrine, you know, San Francisco Berkeley doctrine.
00:25:59.000So I think you've been really kind of fair on the Twitter thing, good Elon, bad Elon banning a journalist, not that.
00:26:05.000And you've been in the middle and, you know, really kind of just calling balls and strikes as a referee.
00:26:09.000I want to ask you just kind of more subjectively than objectively, have you seen a greater ability for us to be able to challenge vaccine narratives than the prior regime?
00:26:23.000So, but I think something bad has happened too.
00:26:27.000And a guy who actually don't like much, Nate Silver, who's a, you know, he's a, he's a sort of election prediction guy who sometimes is right, sometimes wrong.
00:26:35.000So, you know, typical, reliably liberal guy.
00:26:39.000But he said a few days ago something like, I think people are sort of talking.
00:26:43.000They used to be shouting at each other on Twitter, and now they're talking past each other.
00:26:48.000And I think to some extent, what's happened on the right is that people are just done trying to argue with the left on Twitter.
00:26:56.000They felt defensive under the old regime, and they felt they sort of had to engage or be ignored.
00:27:03.000And now it's more like, hey, there's this right-wing echo chamber, just like the left-wing heck of a chamber, and nobody is talking about all of that.
00:27:12.000I'm going to admit, I'm done talking to the left.
00:27:28.000But when people who I would like to have conversations with, you know, call me a conspiracist or, you know, totally misrepresent what I say about, you know, anything about COVID or the vaccines, at some point, I'm going to give up on trying to, you know, forget convinced, but just dialogue with them.
00:27:46.000And so I think that's happening, unfortunately.
00:27:49.000And I mean, I'll fully acknowledge I've become jaded and bitter with it because I sent out a rather innocuous tweet about people dropping suddenly.
00:27:58.000And I get called human garbage by literally actually not actually called human garbage by members of Congress in this.
00:28:05.000And at some point, you're kind of like, yeah, actually, I hate you too.
00:28:18.000So, Alex, I tweeted out after the tragic collapse of DeMar Hamlin and praise God, he's doing better, that this is an all-too-familiar site: athletes dropping suddenly.
00:28:29.000And I was called human garbage, all that sort of stuff.
00:28:31.000But I do want to ask you, Alex, you're really into the data.
00:28:59.000That is unquestionable and it's not COVID related or it's only partly COVID related.
00:29:04.000By the way, the shops were supposed to stop the deaths from COVID and they haven't done that.
00:29:08.000But if you look at Australia, if you look at Taiwan, if you look at Germany, in the U.S., it's actually a little bit less clear, in part because we had fewer people vaccinated, I think, and in part because we had many COVID deaths in 2020 and 2021, which pulled forward some of the vulnerable people who might be dying right now.
00:29:28.000But in countries that didn't have as much COVID in 2020 and 2021, 2022, they had a lot of excess deaths.
00:29:37.000Now, what's interesting and what people don't really get is that's mostly in older people.
00:29:42.000So the trends are clearest actually in people over 65.
00:30:02.000The second issue is sort of the DeMar Hamlin issue, you know, a journalist named Grant Wall who died last month of an aortic aneurysm.
00:30:13.000These cardiac deaths that we see, people are certainly perceiving that there's been more died suddenly deaths of people under 50.
00:30:23.000It's really hard to measure that objectively.
00:30:27.000What's happening, though, is that because the vaccine companies and because the government and because supposedly independent scientists are not doing the work they need to do to look at this bigger problem,
00:30:40.000people who don't necessarily know the details of the statistics of deaths in Taiwan, but sense that something is wrong and is not being investigated are jumping on these problematic deaths and cardiac events in younger people.
00:30:58.000And then the response from the mRNA people, from the vaccine fanatics, is, you can't talk about any of these deaths.
00:31:54.000They've failed to stop infection or transmission.
00:31:57.000We can argue about whether they're doing anything right now to stop COVID deaths, you know, and serious COVID cases, but they clearly haven't improved the health of the population as a whole.
00:32:19.000And the fact that the federal government and state governments and the WHO and these places will not be honest about this is what's driving the anger and the, and you know, to some extent, the conspiracy theories.
00:32:32.000Alex Berenson, thank you for pursuing truth and just going after the data.
00:32:37.000The crime that I committed and that you've committed is the crime of noticing.