The Charlie Kirk Show - July 21, 2023


Where are the Republican AGs? with Mike Benz and Kane


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00:00:02.000 Also, Mike Benz, where are the Republican Attorneys General?
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00:01:37.000 Here's a little tease.
00:01:38.000 I was watching the other day.
00:01:40.000 I'm actually not a huge Martin Luther King fan or whatever.
00:01:43.000 Super flawed guy.
00:01:45.000 But I was watching the last, the audio.
00:01:47.000 I was listening to the audio of the last speech that he gave the night before he was killed, April 3rd, 1968.
00:01:52.000 He was killed the next afternoon.
00:01:54.000 And he gave this speech, and he had just been like cheating with a bunch of different women.
00:01:58.000 Okay.
00:01:59.000 Yeah, he had a tendency to.
00:02:00.000 Oh, my gosh.
00:02:00.000 No, he was like sexually out of control.
00:02:03.000 But he gave this speech in which he clearly predicted his own death.
00:02:07.000 Like, there's no doubt if you listen to this that God is speaking through Martin Luther King.
00:02:11.000 And again, I don't like Martin Luther King's program.
00:02:14.000 I don't like his behaviors.
00:02:16.000 You know, worshiping Martin Luther King is absurd to me.
00:02:18.000 But I got to say, if you listen to that speech, God is speaking through Martin Luther King.
00:02:23.000 There's no other explanation for that.
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00:03:50.000 Joining us now is one of my favorite guests.
00:03:52.000 I visit the website about 20 times a day, and it's just, it is on the mark.
00:03:56.000 It is the drumbeat of the bass.
00:03:59.000 It is citizenfreepress.com.
00:04:01.000 That is citizenfreepress.com.
00:04:03.000 The man behind it, the hardest working person in media, is Mr. Kane.
00:04:06.000 Citizen Kane, welcome back to the program.
00:04:08.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie.
00:04:10.000 Let's do this thing.
00:04:11.000 Now, I know you've been going through a lot and with family stuff, but you're still working your tail off, and we appreciate you, Citizen Kane.
00:04:18.000 So, look, I hate to say it.
00:04:20.000 Back in the spring and even earlier, you know, you've been coming on the program every couple weeks.
00:04:24.000 We've been right about all this.
00:04:25.000 We've been right about Georgia, federal charges, and now we are in the arena that you and I know we were marching towards.
00:04:33.000 Let's just kind of take a 35,000-foot view.
00:04:36.000 What do you see, and what do you hear in Kane that people might be missing?
00:04:39.000 This is some serious stuff, Citizen Kane.
00:04:42.000 Yeah, well, in you know, this morning a lot has happened, as you're well aware, if you've been reading the staff.
00:04:48.000 We just in the past three or four hours, so Judge Eileen Cannon, who's in charge of the case in Miami, which is she's finally set a trial date.
00:04:59.000 So, that's been set for May 20th, 2024.
00:05:03.000 And as you know, the Alvin Bragg Manhattan trial is set for March of 2024.
00:05:09.000 So, we have the first two dates, right?
00:05:11.000 We've got March and May now.
00:05:13.000 And then, right above that, you'll see if people go to Citizen Free Press right now, they'll see that also Drudge was pushing a story this morning that Fannie Willis DeRico charges in Fulton County are probably going to be filed in August.
00:05:27.000 As you know very well, she originally gave a six-week period from the middle of July until September as the time she would file the charges.
00:05:36.000 So, we have two, you know, just sort of the 35,000-foot view is that our president, our candidate, is getting screwed, and the dates are now set for this national disgrace.
00:05:50.000 And then we have probably when we speak next time in another three weeks or so, we're going to be talking about a third trial date with set with Fannie Willis.
00:06:00.000 So, Kane, you know, there's a fair amount of speculation as to who is the composer or the conductor, because this is obviously coordinated, right, Kane?
00:06:07.000 The who is not as interesting to me, meaning is it Clinton?
00:06:09.000 Is it Hillary Clinton and that crime syndicate?
00:06:11.000 Is it Soros?
00:06:12.000 Is it Lorene Powell Jobs, Arab Advisors?
00:06:14.000 Is it the Democracy Alliance?
00:06:16.000 We don't know, not that important, but it definitely is planned.
00:06:18.000 Can you speak to that, Kane, from what I consider to be the biggest news of the week?
00:06:23.000 16 senior citizens that signed a piece of paper within their constitutional rights are now facing 40 to 50 years in jail.
00:06:31.000 By the way, I want to get a picture of all them.
00:06:32.000 We name them on screen.
00:06:33.000 Kane, this was the breaking news that kind of got buried this week.
00:06:38.000 Yeah, and you did a really good job yesterday with Julie Kelly, and she did an excellent job sort of covering that.
00:06:43.000 And I put up a link to that direct video if people want to find that.
00:06:47.000 It's on your Rumble page.
00:06:49.000 Just go to the Charlie Kirk Rumble page, and you'll find Charlie.
00:06:52.000 He has two clips from his interview yesterday with Julie Kelly.
00:06:56.000 And in one of them, she really breaks it down.
00:06:58.000 You know, she points out how we had this coordinated effort by everyone from Hollywood to the Clinton campaign and John Podesta, how they were all coordinating, trying to get the Trump electors to essentially turn against Trump and vote for Hillary Clinton back in 2016.
00:07:15.000 And that was a very coordinated, organized effort, and no one was charged.
00:07:19.000 The Trump Justice Department decided to keep America as, you know, keep our legal system out of the Banana Republic area, and they didn't charge anyone from the Podesta group or the Clinton campaign.
00:07:34.000 But lo and behold, these 16 senior citizens who sort of on a lark in Michigan, you know, got together to put together an alternate slate of electors.
00:07:43.000 Those people are being charged by Dana Nessel in Michigan, and it's an absolute travesty.
00:07:48.000 And, you know, before we get into who's coordinating this, I want to add something about this alternate electors thing, a little bit of hidden history that people don't know.
00:07:56.000 In 1960 in Hawaii, there was a dispute between Nixon and Kennedy, who actually won the Hawaii race.
00:08:06.000 And Hawaii Democrats in 1960 put together a completely separate alternate set of electors for the exact same reason that it was done in Michigan and in Nevada and potentially in Arizona and Georgia, which is if you have a court case that's pending and you have a fixed date when all electors have to be named, then you essentially put together an alternate slate just in case the court case goes your way.
00:08:34.000 And then you have that alternate slate already approved and ready to go.
00:08:39.000 And that's all Republicans did in these states, just copying what happened in Hawaii in 1960.
00:08:45.000 And I bring that up because Fannie Willis herself mentioned that.
00:08:50.000 There's an article from about a month ago or so where she talked about, I'm tired of hearing about the Hawaii 1960 case.
00:08:57.000 I don't care what Democrats did 60 years ago.
00:09:00.000 What Trump tried to do with this alternate slate of electors in Georgia was completely out of bounds.
00:09:06.000 So it's in Fannie Willis's mind.
00:09:08.000 I want people to know that there's a precedent for this alternate slate.
00:09:12.000 Now getting back to this Michigan group and how it's been glossed over, you're absolutely correct.
00:09:16.000 This is, I call it a travesty of justice.
00:09:19.000 It is unbelievable that Dana Nessel is going after them.
00:09:23.000 And as, you know, the last 15 seconds before I throw it back to you, you saw, I'm sure, in the article, she said that she originally sent a referral to the Department of Justice for them to charge this alternate slate of electors in Michigan.
00:09:37.000 But she said she got tired of waiting for DOJ to act.
00:09:41.000 So she decided to file charges on her own.
00:09:44.000 Let's put that picture back up on screen.
00:09:46.000 This is some of the, I think this is 10 of them, if I'm not mistaken, 10 out of 16 of them.
00:09:52.000 These are everyday folks, senior citizens, patriots, moms and dads, people that have paid their taxes.
00:09:58.000 They signed a piece of paper that they're constitutionally allowed.
00:10:02.000 And we're just supposed to take this Soviet show trial.
00:10:05.000 Kane, this is not why I have you on the program, but I have to editorialize a minute.
00:10:08.000 Where's the Republican attorneys general going after the Democrat crime syndicate?
00:10:12.000 Can we get an indictment anywhere?
00:10:14.000 Can we get a BLM?
00:10:15.000 Can we get anything?
00:10:16.000 I mean, Kane, they are relentlessly coming after us.
00:10:20.000 And it's as if it, you know what it's like?
00:10:22.000 It's as if they control 40.
00:10:24.000 It's as if the Democrats control 48 legislatures and 48 attorneys general.
00:10:29.000 It's not.
00:10:30.000 We have more governor's mansions.
00:10:32.000 We have more state legislatures.
00:10:33.000 We have more counties.
00:10:34.000 We have more DAs.
00:10:36.000 We have more sheriffs.
00:10:37.000 We have more attorneys general.
00:10:39.000 And we are acting like they control everything.
00:10:42.000 Yeah.
00:10:44.000 No, it's a fantastic point.
00:10:45.000 As you know, it's not 48.
00:10:47.000 You know, the real number is that we've got about 30 of them.
00:10:49.000 They only have 100.
00:10:51.000 That's right.
00:10:52.000 And we act as if everything's been taken over.
00:10:55.000 Please continue.
00:10:56.000 Yeah.
00:10:57.000 Well, you know, I've been sitting here twiddling my thumbs for three months waiting for state attorney generals to bring charges against Hunter Biden, bring charges potentially against Joe Biden.
00:11:07.000 And in this case, we're playing defense.
00:11:09.000 You know, what, you know, everyone sort of sat back.
00:11:12.000 We knew the fake electors thing was going on, but I think what Dana Nestle did caught people off guard.
00:11:19.000 And yeah, it's, you know, I'm as disappointed as you that we haven't seen any charges against anyone in the sort of the Biden regime.
00:11:28.000 And as well, that, you know, that we don't have people standing, you know, look, there's some posters who post on the Citizen Free Press Open Threat every morning who are friends with three or four of these fake, you know, the alternate electors in Michigan.
00:11:43.000 And so she's posted a couple of the give, send, goes to raise money.
00:11:47.000 You have to understand that Dana Nessel is going to go after all 16 of these innocent Americans.
00:11:54.000 If somehow they're able to get not guilty verdicts, she's most likely going to retry them.
00:12:01.000 There are going to be appeals.
00:12:02.000 We're talking probably about a couple hundred thousand dollars in legal fees for each of these 16 people, right?
00:12:10.000 And there's, and it's completely ridiculous.
00:12:13.000 For example, in the same article where it talked about Dana Nessel, it mentioned that the Democrat Attorney General of Nevada had chosen not to charge any of Nevada's alternate electors.
00:12:25.000 And it was the same issue in Nevada.
00:12:26.000 There was a lawsuit that was pending.
00:12:28.000 And so this and alternative slave electors were put together just in case they would be needed beyond the date when that court ruling came in.
00:12:36.000 So we know that, you know, in other words, by the Nevada Democrat Attorney General deciding not to file charges, we know that this is completely discretionary.
00:12:45.000 So it even adds sort of a bigger flashlight to what Dana Nessel did and shows how political, just cravenly political her decision to file charges is.
00:12:56.000 And I'm still somehow holding out hope that these people can get all 16, you know, all 16 of these people can get the charges dropped, but probably not much hope for that.
00:13:06.000 Look, we use these comparisons a lot, Maoist Soviet show trial.
00:13:10.000 They're trying to break the will.
00:13:11.000 This is a public show trial.
00:13:13.000 Absolutely.
00:13:14.000 This is so evil.
00:13:15.000 And hey, Republican attorneys general, they're sending out press releases.
00:13:21.000 There is no opposition party in this country.
00:13:24.000 That's why they get what they want.
00:13:26.000 Kane, let's go through the timeline here.
00:13:28.000 This is going to be going on right during the presidential season.
00:13:31.000 Trump will be going from courthouse to campaign trail, courthouse to campaign trail, courthouse to campaign trail.
00:13:39.000 If a judge has any honest bone in their body, they would delay the trial till after the election.
00:13:45.000 They'd say, look, this is a little bit unusual, right?
00:13:48.000 This is not like just some sort of ordinary person from, you know, Lexington, Kentucky who's standing trial.
00:13:55.000 Like, this is a little bit high stakes.
00:13:58.000 That could happen.
00:13:58.000 A judge could say, let's just, let's have the start date in December of 2024.
00:14:04.000 But, Kane, this is going to result, and this is the big one.
00:14:09.000 Jack Smith, 14th Amendment, they're going to try to prevent Donald Trump from ever becoming president as their insurance or backup plan, citizen Kane.
00:14:17.000 Yeah, so you mentioned the timeline.
00:14:19.000 I just wrote down months, right, on a piece of paper here.
00:14:23.000 Here's what I've got.
00:14:24.000 March for Alvin Bragg.
00:14:26.000 May for the Mar-a-Lago classified documents.
00:14:32.000 Let's just say July for Fannie Willis, which then, what does that leave for the looming indictment that we're going to be reporting on next week, right?
00:14:41.000 The January 6th indictment.
00:14:43.000 Does that mean that comes?
00:14:44.000 Yeah, does that mean that comes in September, October, which is right when ballots come out?
00:14:49.000 Yep, that's right.
00:14:50.000 Yeah, which is, or do they, you know, do they try to ram that one through and start that one in January?
00:14:57.000 So it's obvious.
00:14:58.000 You know, a number of people have said it.
00:15:02.000 It seems like their goal is to keep Trump off the ballot, right?
00:15:06.000 You mentioned the 14th Amendment.
00:15:08.000 If they use that sort of strange, if Jack Smith uses that strange Civil War statute and they charge Trump with rebellion or sedition, there's a chance that they're going to try to use the 14th Amendment just to keep him just off the ballot, which is just what are the ramifications of this, Charlie?
00:15:33.000 Like, we've never, ever seen anything like this before.
00:15:36.000 Four criminal trials all next year, all as Trump is campaigning, as you said, it'll be going from courtroom to a rally to a courtroom to a rally.
00:15:48.000 And there's, you know, where is the, what do we do to stop it, right?
00:15:53.000 So, Kane, I want to go a step.
00:15:54.000 Sorry to interrupt.
00:15:56.000 I was dialoguing with Andrew.
00:15:57.000 This is very clear.
00:15:58.000 They're trying to provoke the American right to violence.
00:16:01.000 And you should not take that bait, everybody.
00:16:03.000 But they're trying to make you feel as if you're losing your country or poor, borders wide open.
00:16:08.000 The symbol, right?
00:16:09.000 Very similar to what we talked about yesterday, the symbol of the resistance is going to, quote unquote, go to jail.
00:16:15.000 And if we are unsuccessful in winning in 2024, which I have no idea, the probability is going to be the most unpredictable election in history.
00:16:24.000 The federal agents are going to try and provoke 100 different wacos.
00:16:29.000 And Kane, that would be so tragic and so terrible and so awful.
00:16:33.000 I think the American left wants a mini-civil war to try to justify a Patriot Act 2.0, January 6th, on steroids moment, where this becomes even more of a Soviet country.
00:16:46.000 Kane, it's depressing.
00:16:49.000 It's hard to argue with your logic, right?
00:16:51.000 We've been seeing it coming.
00:16:53.000 I mean, you know, if you had maybe said this 12 months ago, some people might have raised eyebrows.
00:16:58.000 But it seems like everything you just laid out that, you know, that there's sort of a clear path.
00:17:04.000 They feel that they have a clear path.
00:17:07.000 And absolutely, are they trying, you know, are they trying to provoke violence from the right?
00:17:13.000 They would like nothing more, right?
00:17:14.000 We've heard in these in Senate testimony and congressional testimony from DOJ people as well as FBI people that they sort of already view the MAGA base as a supremacist base, which is completely and utterly untrue, by the way.
00:17:31.000 But they already view us this way.
00:17:32.000 And yeah, they would like nothing more than to make their point and to codify it into law if there are violent reactions to these trials or to these indictments next year.
00:17:44.000 So I've been trying to make sure that everybody on Citizen Free Press knows that that's what they're trying to do.
00:17:51.000 They're trying to provoke you guys.
00:17:53.000 They're trying to provoke.
00:17:54.000 Don't take the bait.
00:17:55.000 Don't take the bait.
00:17:56.000 And you have to say this ahead of time, guys.
00:17:59.000 That, you know, if Donald Trump goes to federal prison, how are you going to act?
00:18:04.000 What are you going to do?
00:18:05.000 I'm going to pray.
00:18:06.000 I'm going to do prayer vigils and I'm going to keep on building.
00:18:09.000 And I hate to put it that way, guys.
00:18:10.000 Do not be taken by surprise.
00:18:12.000 These federal operators, I'm telling you, we talk about a composer of this, you know, of this symphony, which is we are living through a symphony composed by a political equivalent of Beethoven, and it ends.
00:18:24.000 The crescendo of the symphony ends in their wet dream, which is domestic violent extremism of right-wing people in the streets, and then all bets are off, Kane.
00:18:35.000 They'll suspend the Constitution, take the guns, Patriot Act 2.0, federal will then deprive the power of the states, and that Rubicon will be crossed.
00:18:43.000 I pray I'm wrong, Kane.
00:18:44.000 We have to stay disciplined.
00:18:46.000 We have to stay peaceful.
00:18:48.000 This is heading in a terrible direction for our republic.
00:18:50.000 Kane, we're out of time.
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00:20:00.000 Mike Bence is with us, Foundation for Freedom Online.
00:20:04.000 And so I want to have you, Mike, the floor is yours.
00:20:07.000 Lay out for us what John Podesta was planning versus now what MAGA senior citizens are facing criminally.
00:20:15.000 Mike Bence.
00:20:16.000 Well, thanks, Charlie.
00:20:17.000 So what you have here is this really extraordinary situation where the Michigan State Attorney General's office has brought a case against essentially MAGA folks for doing what John Podesta planned to do in a much more egregious way.
00:20:33.000 So you had this sort of elector slate with people being able to send electors that may not reflect what the actual vote of the state was.
00:20:42.000 It's never been actually done before in U.S. history.
00:20:45.000 But in the past few contentious elections in 2016 and 2020, this was something that was contemplated when the Democrats tried to overturn the 2016 election by getting electors from Michigan and Wisconsin and other states to change their electors, even though the public voted for Trump.
00:21:04.000 They tried to get the electors sent to vote for Clinton.
00:21:08.000 Now, Podesta was part of this group called the Transition Integrity Project, which was run by a woman named Rosa Brooke.
00:21:15.000 Rosa Brooke bills herself as a Georgetown law professor, but I read her book called How Everything Became War and the Military Became Everything.
00:21:24.000 And in the first chapter of the book, she talked about how she had a CIA bluepad with access to the innermost sanctum of CIA covert activity.
00:21:33.000 And what she teaches at Georgetown Law is democratization, meaning regime change.
00:21:37.000 So you have a CIA specialist, covert ops and regime change, running an election loss simulator.
00:21:44.000 This involved John Podesta role-playing Joe Biden in the event that Trump won, quote, a clear electoral victory.
00:21:51.000 They ran four simulations.
00:21:52.000 Simulation three was, quote, clear Trump win.
00:21:55.000 And what they planned to do was to get multiple states to secede from the nation if Trump didn't essentially yield on the basis of a popular vote rather than an electoral win.
00:22:06.000 And then to get the Michigan state electors, as well as Wisconsin and a few other states, to defy the will of the people and send their own separate slate of electors.
00:22:15.000 The same thing that the Michigan Attorney General's office just indicted a bunch of geriatric Trump supporters for considering doing.
00:22:23.000 This was actually role-played and simulated out.
00:22:26.000 And it wasn't just John Podesta, who, by the way, is now, instead of being indicted, John Podesta is now promoted.
00:22:32.000 He now runs the largest federal slush fund in the entire federal government.
00:22:37.000 $370 billion in climate funds is now under John Podesta's discretion at the White House.
00:22:45.000 But it was John Podesta.
00:22:46.000 It was Donna Brazil, who's the head of the DNC, Michael Steele, the former head of the RNC and the Never Trump Bank.
00:22:53.000 You had Jennifer Granholm, the former governor of Michigan, Bill Crystal, Max Boot, David Frum.
00:22:59.000 You had this whole panoply of heads of both of the political, major political parties in the country.
00:23:06.000 John Podesta, who was the former White House chief of staff, former Hillary Clinton campaign manager.
00:23:12.000 And now the climates are for the White House role playing a way to do exactly what these Trump supporters just got indicted for, except they actually role-played the entire thing out in a simulation.
00:23:26.000 And just one last thing is, you know, a conspiracy involves two steps, an agreement and an affirmative step in furtherance of the agreed conspiracy.
00:23:34.000 There's nothing more you can do as an affirmative step than running a 60-person simulation on how to overturn an election.
00:23:42.000 But of course, we're living in a two-tiered justice system right now.
00:23:47.000 Yeah, so the Michigan Attorney General and soon Jack Smith, Jack Smith's indictment could drop today for all we know.
00:23:54.000 Today, this weekend, sometime, is centered around this idea, what they call fake electors or alternate electors, which was perfectly fine according to the 1960s to be able to send forward alternate electors.
00:24:08.000 But here you have Podesta, who is putting together a document.
00:24:12.000 Now, let me ask you, was this just some sort of exploration board game?
00:24:16.000 Like, oh, this is a thought exercise?
00:24:18.000 Or was there intent of action?
00:24:20.000 Were there things on this document or a related document by these parties that was ever acted upon?
00:24:27.000 Well, it's interesting to explore that because some of the things that came out, I mean, this is something that frankly should be a part of the weaponization committee under Jim Jordan, because there was an extraordinary Time magazine article that you may recall after the election, which talked about an agreement and it talked about an agreement essentially between Black Lives Matter and the Chamber of Commerce.
00:24:49.000 I mean, it was really between the AFL-CIO, that is the major trade union group in this country, and the Chamber of Commerce to stand down these anticipated Antifa and BLM protests the day after the election when it was decided that Biden was going to win.
00:25:06.000 And so there wouldn't need to be these mayhem protests to shut down the federal government.
00:25:11.000 What's really fascinating about that detail is that it echoes what was in this simulation from John Podesta.
00:25:19.000 In this simulation three, where there was a clear Trump victory, one of the things that John Podesta and Donna Brazil and Max Bootin, all these folks pregamed was using Black Lives Matter street muscle to shut down the federal government.
00:25:34.000 In fact, this is in June 2020.
00:25:35.000 This is just weeks after the George Floyd riot started.
00:25:39.000 The simulation broke down how to be sympathetic and do favors for, quote, racial justice activists in order for them to pay the favor back, essentially, by serving as pro-Biden street muscle in the event that Trump won the Electoral College.
00:25:55.000 So the fact that basically, that's exactly right.
00:25:58.000 That's right.
00:26:00.000 Right.
00:26:01.000 Right.
00:26:01.000 And there's a lot more I can say on that, but the similarities are stunned.
00:26:05.000 So let's build this out.
00:26:07.000 Somebody emailed us.
00:26:09.000 Charlie, I'm super frustrated, angry.
00:26:11.000 Why can't Republican attorneys general now indict them if they indeed were conspiring to do this in red states?
00:26:17.000 Is that outrageous to ask?
00:26:20.000 Well, the issue is, is are they red states anymore?
00:26:24.000 So, you know, you have this situation where it's the Michigan State Attorney General's office who brought this case against MAGA electors.
00:26:31.000 But and John Podesta even plotted the fake elector plot to be in the state of Michigan.
00:26:39.000 But if you don't control that state attorney general's office, it's unclear if you can do that in that state.
00:26:44.000 But I think that the point is absolutely right.
00:26:46.000 We are in a world right now where there is not a Republican prosecution factory on par to what Democrats are doing right now in New York and in Michigan.
00:26:57.000 I mean, we need, frankly, the only reason that the nuclear arms race came to an end was because other countries started developing nuclear arms.
00:27:06.000 That is so smart.
00:27:06.000 That is exactly right.
00:27:08.000 Yeah, we need a lawfare nuclear non-proliferation agreement.
00:27:12.000 And that only happens by getting the ball rolling with our own prosecutions.
00:27:17.000 So, Mike, I mean, the gutless wonders that call themselves Republican attorneys general, what's stopping them?
00:27:22.000 I mean, we have 30 attorneys general.
00:27:25.000 So let's just take one state, Florida.
00:27:26.000 Florida is a right-wing state now.
00:27:29.000 They're not exploring anything.
00:27:30.000 Arkansas not exploring anything against Hunter Biden.
00:27:34.000 Tennessee, not exploring anything against the brother of Joe Biden.
00:27:37.000 Why do Republicans write press releases and op-eds while Democrats enthusiastically put our most fervent supporters in jail?
00:27:46.000 Why are Republicans so afraid, whether it be in Montana, South Dakota, Idaho, to, I don't know, put forward subpoenas?
00:27:54.000 I mean, James Biden likely committed crimes in Florida with some hospital.
00:27:58.000 Why do Republicans act like the Vichy French gutless wonders while Democrats steamroll our republic?
00:28:04.000 What am I missing?
00:28:06.000 It's a great question.
00:28:08.000 My personal opinion on it is that the civil war between the foreign policy wing of the Republican Party and the domestic priority wing of the Republican Party essentially forestalls serious from being taken here.
00:28:21.000 And a great example is the State of Texas Act.
00:28:23.000 Ken Paxton was one of the most aggressive, serious, formidable state attorney generals in the entire country.
00:28:31.000 I mean, the litany of bold actions that he's taken is downright heroic.
00:28:37.000 And he ended up being impeached by his own Republican GOP faction.
00:28:43.000 That is, the state assembly went after the state attorney general's office when they got too aggressive in taking on the uniparty corruption.
00:28:52.000 You have this situation even right now with Hunter Biden.
00:28:54.000 You know, I posted this on my Twitter just yesterday, but who has the contracts?
00:29:01.000 The state, the Ukrainian gas government contracts in Ukraine two months after Zelensky took power were all signed up by Halliburton.
00:29:09.000 Halliburton is the Cheney Enterprise.
00:29:11.000 Dick Cheney was the chairman.
00:29:14.000 Both Cheneys, him and Liz, still have huge amounts of stock there.
00:29:18.000 They've got the right, the oil fees.
00:29:20.000 George, they've got the fracking rights in Ukraine.
00:29:22.000 George Soros has a huge share in Aliburton as well.
00:29:26.000 You've got this Houston GOP oil and gas center that may be well-intentioned, but right now there's a lot of money to be made when Hunter Biden pops up and that brings him money to NAFTA gas.
00:29:39.000 Well, that pays off the Houston GOP.
00:29:41.000 So, you know, this is something that has been going on in this country for 80 years at least.
00:29:46.000 It's one of the reasons that there is a uniparty, that there is a sort of a Washington consensus on both sides of the aisle on our management of the American empire.
00:29:56.000 The problem is now the people in the American homeland are getting screwed by it.
00:30:00.000 That's really smart.
00:30:01.000 Look, it's easy to get demoralized.
00:30:03.000 And I was texting Republican attorneys general just asking them, like, hey, do you have anything that might give people some hope that there still is a justice system?
00:30:11.000 And just nothing but excuses.
00:30:13.000 I mean, you know what an AG stands for, aspiring governor, right?
00:30:15.000 I mean, they just want to become governor of their state.
00:30:19.000 And meanwhile, Democrats, they are so hostile.
00:30:22.000 I mean, I just want to repeat this, everybody.
00:30:25.000 16 senior citizens that did nothing wrong are now going to have to go into bankruptcies, taking out second mortgages of their homes, be publicly humiliated in a Soviet show trial, and they will probably lose at trial because it will be a rigged game and they will spend the rest of their life in a state penitentiary serving 10 to 30 years in prison.
00:30:45.000 Meanwhile, BLM does whatever they want, Antifa does whatever they want.
00:30:48.000 The Biden family does whatever they want.
00:30:50.000 Fauci does whatever he wants.
00:30:52.000 Google does whatever they want.
00:30:53.000 Facebook does whatever they want.
00:30:54.000 And we sit in our hands and we have happy talk Republican attorneys general that want to be governor.
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00:32:14.000 So, Mike, let's, you know, I try to resist abstractions.
00:32:20.000 Any specifics?
00:32:21.000 What, if you were the, if you were the guy that was able to start calling shots, who can we start indicting?
00:32:26.000 What investigations are the most obvious in red states against powerful Democrats?
00:32:30.000 Because we need a drumbeat.
00:32:31.000 We want to try to get into the head of powerful Democrats.
00:32:34.000 Like, ooh, maybe, oh, boy, maybe they'll know about the time I sex trafficked a girl through Missouri.
00:32:41.000 Maybe they'll find that out.
00:32:42.000 Or, you know, you have to get in their head.
00:32:44.000 Or, oh, boy, Epstein's Island.
00:32:47.000 You know, I was on a plane in Florida, and that statute of limitations is 20 years.
00:32:51.000 That's how we have to start.
00:32:52.000 We have to start to have them be afraid.
00:32:55.000 Because, look, these Democrats are craven, evil people.
00:32:58.000 And I want them to start going back through old records and emails.
00:33:01.000 I want them to have to go back through calendars, worried, afraid that they might get a knock on the door from a Republican AG for money laundering, human trafficking, embezzlement, whatever.
00:33:11.000 Mike Benz.
00:33:13.000 Yeah, and it's funny, you just brought up the statute of the hypothetical 20-year statute of limitations.
00:33:18.000 In the state of New York, for Gene Carroll to bring her case against Trump, they actually extended a 20-year statute of limitations to 25 years, two months before the lawsuit was filed, just so that they could bring a lawsuit against Trump.
00:33:34.000 I mean, there was an active collusion between the state attorney general's office, essentially, and the law affair team in charge of that case.
00:33:43.000 But you do have a great example being led right now in Missouri and in Louisiana.
00:33:47.000 So we talked about how Ken Paxton, Texas, was doing a fantastic job.
00:33:51.000 He had just brought a social media, he had just helped litigate a major social media anti-censorship case.
00:33:58.000 He'd been doing great work with anti-corruption stuff, and then he got impeached by his own GOP Tech legislature.
00:34:04.000 Fortunately, in Missouri and Louisiana, there appears to be more leeway there to actually lean into this aggressively.
00:34:11.000 The marquee First Amendment case right now in the country against folks like Tony Fauci and against the government censorship collusion folks is led by A.G. Andrew Bailey's office in Missouri and Jeff Landry's AG office in Louisiana.
00:34:28.000 And they just got a major junction victory.
00:34:31.000 It's currently on stay until arguments are held on appeal.
00:34:34.000 But it already started fighting back, forced the FBI and the State Department to cancel meetings with Facebook and Google.
00:34:41.000 And A.G. Andrew Bailey from Missouri State Attorney General's office has said that if government officials violate this injunction, that they absolutely will seek criminal contempt and put these people in jail.
00:34:55.000 Now, whether, so that's a start.
00:34:58.000 You know, the issue is, is will it actually be enforced when the rubber hits the road?
00:35:02.000 Is the Missouri State Assembly going to try to do something to Andrew Bailey or in Louisiana, Jeff Landry?
00:35:09.000 How deep does the rot go within the sort of Republican wing of the Uniparty to stop well-meaning would-be heroes of history from doing their heroic jobs?
00:35:20.000 So how about that?
00:35:21.000 That's some good civil stuff, but how about some criminal actions that we could start to see against top actors, organizations?
00:35:27.000 Easy one, right?
00:35:28.000 BLM, they raise money in all 50 states.
00:35:30.000 Obviously, charitable fraud, what they've done.
00:35:32.000 Any other organization would have been indicted for lying to donors.
00:35:36.000 Why hasn't Louisiana, why hasn't Missouri, why haven't these states said, okay, we're indicting Patrice Cullers.
00:35:42.000 Guys have defrauded the donors of the state.
00:35:45.000 Well, that's just one example of hundreds I could think of.
00:35:49.000 Mike?
00:35:50.000 You know, I think it comes back to this Texas example, which is when Trump won the election in 2016, he didn't just defeat Hillary Clinton, he defeated the Bush family.
00:36:02.000 And the sort of seeds of this Eisenhower to Nixon to, you know, to sort of Bush deep political entrenchment at the state legislature level, frankly.
00:36:19.000 This is this is the until we win the civil war on the Republican side to actually get our state assemblies aligned with our state AGs, it's going to be very difficult to build that sort of consensus and do it in a multi-jurisdiction way the way it needs to be done.
00:36:38.000 That is, you've got prosecution factories now from the Democrats in New York, you've got them in Delaware, you've got them in Michigan.
00:36:44.000 They've got hubs.
00:36:45.000 They can jurisdiction shop.
00:36:48.000 Right now, it would seem the most obvious choice would be Florida because you do have this very powerful, you know, new red wave there.
00:36:57.000 You do have a major hub with a huge amount of Democrat activity where, I mean, you look at just what happens in the Florida banking world and how many funds are laundered through Florida into the Cayman Islands and BBI and Jersey.
00:37:12.000 And for all of all of the sort of transatlantic and Latin American Caribbean operations, I mean, there's so many prosecutions that could be brought in the state of Florida.
00:37:21.000 The issue is, is, you know, who's is that going to cost, will the will the MAGA side win against the foreign policy side?
00:37:31.000 And that's unclear.
00:37:32.000 Mike, great commentary.
00:37:33.000 Thank you so much.
00:37:34.000 Appreciate it.
00:37:35.000 Thanks.
00:37:35.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:37:37.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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