The Charlie Kirk Show - Who Controls Twitter's Doxx Force? + Recovering SBF's Blood Money with Darren Beattie and John Chachas

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00:00:01.000 The FTX scandal continues.

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00:00:07.000 Darren Beattie joins the program about the RNC and why is it that Republicans are better at grifting than Democrats.

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00:00:39.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:21.000 Someone says here, Jeff Jeff says, Charlie, we need Harmeet, a tough election lawyer, as chair in partnership with Mike Lindell to run the operational money side of the RNC to clean it up.

00:01:30.000 Harmeet to fight the lawfare battles and win elections, Mike to clean up the money and the organizational side of the RNC.

00:01:36.000 It is true.

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00:01:42.000 All right, John Chachis joins us now.

00:01:43.000 John, one of the first believers in the vision of Turning Point USA.

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00:01:48.000 John, welcome to the program.

00:01:49.000 Tell us your thoughts on FTX.

00:01:52.000 Well, let's peel back the onion because it's a complicated mess.

00:01:56.000 FTX is a large, complicated bankruptcy that will be investigated for some time.

00:02:06.000 And the new CEO of the company is going to find a lot of loss, a lot of lost money that left customer accounts.

00:02:13.000 So the first place, as a financial person, first rule of finance, don't touch other people's money unless they tell you to do something with it.

00:02:20.000 That has clearly not occurred at FTX.

00:02:23.000 And Sam Bankman-Freed and Ryan Salome and Nishad Singh, the people that were associated with this company, and probably others, Carolyn Ellison and others that were part of this entourage, are all going to be held to account by an awful lot of legal analysis of where did the money go.

00:02:40.000 So let's start with.

00:02:42.000 That's a problem.

00:02:44.000 But the bigger problem from a political standpoint is that something akin to $70 million worth of money.

00:02:52.000 And you can get this.

00:02:53.000 I'm not making this up.

00:02:54.000 You can go to opensecrets.org right now while you're on the phone.

00:02:58.000 And right below the picture of Sam Bankman-Freed, there's a little button that says click here to look at the analysis.

00:03:05.000 You can click on it.

00:03:06.000 And what it will pull up for you is a Google sheet that accumulates all of the FEC filings.

00:03:14.000 These are federal election campaign filings of monies that went from these particular individuals to where it went.

00:03:22.000 And the amounts of money, and this is just the last cycle that you will find if you go do that right now, is about 40, 40, who's am I trying to freed, it's 46.5 million.

00:03:38.000 And then there's all these, there's all these surrogates too, and employees.

00:03:42.000 And John, you made a really smart point when we were texting about this.

00:03:45.000 Was this their money?

00:03:46.000 Did they declare it as income?

00:03:48.000 That's really so crazy.

00:03:50.000 At the extreme, let's start with the simple.

00:03:52.000 A couple years ago, Dustin Moskowitz, or I think his last name is Moskowitz, the Facebook.

00:03:59.000 Who is a founder of Facebook sold a bunch of his Facebook shares, took a bunch of his money and spent 50 million bucks on American elections because he felt strongly about things.

00:04:09.000 It's his business.

00:04:10.000 It's his dough.

00:04:12.000 Here, I think it's hard for you to convince me that Ryan Salome took $23,459,000 of his money and that Nasheed Singh took $14 million of his money and Sam Blankman took $43 million of his money and did that with it.

00:04:27.000 And until we know for a fact, until we know for a fact it was their money, given the fact pattern surrounding everything that's happened with FTX, it is a completely reasonable assumption that some pile of this money is ill-gotten money that cannot be treated this way.

00:04:45.000 So all of the many, many, many members of Congress and some senators, which by the way, total only about 10% of that 70 million.

00:04:55.000 We're going to come back to where the rest of it goes in a second.

00:04:58.000 I would be of the view all of them need to send the money back.

00:05:02.000 And if they can't send it to a federal trustee, remember in the Madoff case, Irving Picard and David Sheehan became the trustees and they rounded up $14.5 billion of the lost Madoff money over a period of about five years.

00:05:16.000 They got it back.

00:05:17.000 Wow.

00:05:17.000 We don't have a federally appointed trustee.

00:05:20.000 It will happen though.

00:05:22.000 But it will happen.

00:05:23.000 But in the meantime, and I'm going to give you a quote: I had a conversation with Mitt Romney by a text this morning, and Mitt said, one, I am saddened to know that we received money from such people.

00:05:36.000 Two, I have directed my staff to return it, and it's all being wired today to the U.S. Federal Treasury.

00:05:43.000 Three, I would really like to know that my colleagues do the same thing and return it because this is terrible for American politics and American finance.

00:05:51.000 And I take my hat off to Mitt.

00:05:53.000 That is the thing that every single one of the recipients of this money should do.

00:05:57.000 And the list is long.

00:05:59.000 It is a long list.

00:06:00.000 It contains Republicans and Democrats, contains a lot more Democrats than it contains Republicans.

00:06:05.000 But there are people on both sides of the aisle and they should send the money back.

00:06:09.000 The real volume of funds, though, John, here is the Chauncey McClain future forward pack and Protect Our Future PAC.

00:06:19.000 That money is no longer there.

00:06:20.000 There's no money that's not.

00:06:21.000 No, no, no.

00:06:21.000 No, that's right.

00:06:22.000 That's the big, the much bigger problem is that I don't know.

00:06:25.000 I'm going to make an estimate here, Charlie, but if you went and you added up, if you, again, go to openseecrets.org and you just open the thing and look at the tab, there's gigantic sums of money that have gone to these packs.

00:06:39.000 And, you know, Chauncey McClain's PAC is one.

00:06:44.000 There's a second one, Future that Protect Our Future.

00:06:47.000 They have all these weird corny names.

00:06:48.000 Protect Our Future.

00:06:49.000 By the way, Protect Our Future was run by a 31-year-old fellow who graduated from Oberlin in 2013.

00:06:56.000 Chauncey McLean's about 40 years old.

00:06:58.000 These guys took piles of money and downstreamed it into a massive number of political campaigns in the last political cycle.

00:07:07.000 And the problem for them is it was stolen money.

00:07:10.000 And they're going to have a hell of a time figuring out how they get it.

00:07:14.000 This is really important.

00:07:14.000 This is not insignificant, John.

00:07:16.000 So now these major Democrat packs, they might actually be required to refund money that is no longer there.

00:07:23.000 How does that work then in a bankruptcy proceeding?

00:07:26.000 I truly have, by the way, and I want to be clear about this.

00:07:30.000 I don't know about like the PAC called American Dream Federal Action.

00:07:34.000 There's 15 million that went into that one.

00:07:36.000 That's a conservative pack. 1.00

00:07:38.000 There is value in electing women, another conservative pack.

00:07:40.000 So, you know, there's real money.

00:07:42.000 There's 15, 18, $20 million that, and it looks like when you look at the data, Ryan Salome was the person of the three that gave monies into the R side of the equation.

00:07:52.000 And Sam Bankman Fried and Nishad Singh gave into the D side of the equation.

00:07:56.000 And it's about, by my very rough estimate so far, sort of $7, $750 to 75% left Democrat, 20% right Republican.

00:08:08.000 But that money was spent in the election cycle.

00:08:12.000 And it was probably, you know, probably is too strong a word.

00:08:16.000 I'm dying to see how these three individuals demonstrate that this was their money.

00:08:22.000 Yeah, and not to mention, and this is the question, did any of the people running the PACs have any whisper or any piece of evidence that this money was not kosher?

00:08:35.000 I have no way to know.

00:08:36.000 No, but that is the question, though, right?

00:08:38.000 That needs to be asked.

00:08:40.000 It's an absolutely fair question.

00:08:41.000 And what we really now know is that a pile of money was misappropriated from FTX and Alameda.

00:08:49.000 Alameda was losing money left and right.

00:08:51.000 A handful of people who are constituents in control of that money gave pantloads of money into the political system.

00:09:00.000 And the right thing to do is what Mitt did, which is to tell people you need to send it to the U.S. Treasury and give it back.

00:09:05.000 And so I think there's a whole lot of people in Congress and the Senate who are going to be writing $5,800 checks, $10,000 checks, and sending it somewhere to cleanse that, you know, to get rid of it.

00:09:16.000 I think for the most part, we have good people in Congress who don't really want to be in this position, but they're now in this position where the people that gave the money probably stole it.

00:09:16.000 Because these are good.

00:09:26.000 And then you have Joe Biden that took $5.2 million.

00:09:29.000 We'll see if he returns it.

00:09:30.000 John, great commentary, and thank you so much.

00:09:32.000 Appreciate it.

00:09:33.000 Nice seeing you, Charlie.

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00:11:36.000 And so if you want to get your tickets, AmFest.com, Tucker Carlson, Kaylee McEnany, Candace Owens.

00:11:42.000 And now Joe Bob is going to give us a short little preview.

00:11:45.000 What is the stage going to look like?

00:11:47.000 Joe Bob, how are we doing?

00:11:49.000 Hey, doing great.

00:11:50.000 Hey, I think you missed.

00:11:51.000 There's a pretty big speaker.

00:11:52.000 A guy's name is Charlie Kirk.

00:11:54.000 Not sure if your audience is familiar with him, but he's also going to be there.

00:11:57.000 Let me give you a brief, just a tiny little taste of what we're looking at here.

00:12:02.000 Check it out.

00:12:03.000 Look at these big, look at the crowd audience.

00:12:05.000 I'm not going to show you this screen in the back, but there's risers.

00:12:08.000 Like, there's not enough room to have everybody here.

00:12:12.000 So, you got to have people go up in a rising situation.

00:12:14.000 Obviously, it's entirely set up yet because it takes a very long time to set up 10,000 plus chairs or even more than that.

00:12:23.000 But there's probably, I don't know, 200 people working in here right now to get this all set up and organized.

00:12:29.000 So, it'll be just a rocking party starting tomorrow night.

00:12:33.000 So, where are you standing?

00:12:34.000 You're standing right in front of, I think, the biggest stage in the entire conservative movement.

00:12:39.000 And I think it's by a lot, too.

00:12:41.000 I think that might even be an understatement.

00:12:42.000 Yes, the biggest stage in the entire conservative movement by like 10 times.

00:12:48.000 If I were to do a lap around this stage, it would probably be my cardio for the day.

00:12:53.000 I think I'd be done working out because of how expansive this thing is.

00:12:57.000 I probably would trip all over the stairs, too.

00:13:00.000 And there's a pit in here.

00:13:02.000 It's wild.

00:13:03.000 There's also sparklers, sparkler flare things that go up.

00:13:07.000 I don't know.

00:13:07.000 The production value on this thing is so insane.

00:13:10.000 It is.

00:13:11.000 Oh, show a little bit of the stage, just a little bit.

00:13:14.000 Yeah.

00:13:15.000 A little bit.

00:13:16.000 There you go.

00:13:17.000 There you go.

00:13:18.000 That's all.

00:13:18.000 That's all you get.

00:13:19.000 A little bit of a taste.

00:13:21.000 Lauren's going to be so mad at me, but hey, everybody can get your tickets.

00:13:24.000 Amfest.com.

00:13:25.000 It's going to be incredible.

00:13:27.000 And look, we are about to sell out of tickets.

00:13:31.000 People are, they're coming in from the rivers and they're coming in from the valleys and they're coming in from the desert.

00:13:37.000 And the speakers are just incredible.

00:13:40.000 I know people are working so hard there.

00:13:41.000 Joe Bob, how could people follow you on social media as you continue to post updates?

00:13:45.000 AmFest, we are just about 30 hours out.

00:13:49.000 Yeah, just J-O-B-O-B, Joe Bob.

00:13:51.000 One grandparent was Joe.

00:13:52.000 One of them was Bob.

00:13:54.000 Weird name.

00:13:54.000 We won't dwell on it.

00:13:55.000 You find me over there.

00:13:56.000 I'm going to be posting probably too much, honestly.

00:13:59.000 If you want to see the entirety of this thing, yeah, I guess you can follow me there.

00:14:02.000 But also, it's going to be a lot because I don't even think I can encompass all of this here.

00:14:07.000 This is, again, just one component.

00:14:09.000 This is the largest component, but it's just one component.

00:14:12.000 You've got the whole exhibitor hall out there, which I think we're going to come to next.

00:14:15.000 And then we've obviously were in media row earlier.

00:14:19.000 It's wild.

00:14:19.000 So yeah, we'll be here all weekend with, I don't know, the biggest crowd in the conservative movement by far.

00:14:28.000 Yeah, it is the largest multi-day event in the entire conservative movement.

00:14:31.000 Joe Bob, thanks so much.

00:14:33.000 Appreciate it, man.

00:14:34.000 Everybody, email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:14:38.000 There's so many stories here that we want to cover.

00:14:40.000 I believe we have Darren Beattie joining us next.

00:14:43.000 And somebody said, Charlie, how do I get tickets for AmFest?

00:14:46.000 It's amfest.com.

00:14:47.000 And we just have a couple hours left until we get it all started and we go there.

00:14:53.000 I want to play 102, Mark Levin covering the spending of the RNC Play Cut 102.

00:15:01.000 Jennifer Van Law.

00:15:02.000 But she points out that under this current RNC chair, they have been on a spending spree.

00:15:10.000 She says, despite Joe Biden's economy and three straight cycles of election losses, the RNC's big spending days are back with a vengeance.

00:15:17.000 Our review found that amounts spent during the 21-22 election cycle seem to have been par for the course and possibly even lower than previous portions of McDaniel's tenure.

00:15:29.000 McDaniel did not reply to Red State's request for comment prior to publication.

00:15:34.000 So many of you have emailed me saying, Charlie, I gave $100 I didn't have.

00:15:38.000 I gave $50 I did not have.

00:15:42.000 I gave $50 a month.

00:15:44.000 And then you have it squandered on that.

00:15:47.000 It's sick.

00:15:49.000 It really is.

00:15:50.000 $700,000 on flowers.

00:15:53.000 And it'd be one thing if you're winning every single election and you're doing just a grand old job.

00:16:00.000 But when you lose a net Senate seat in a year that should have been a red wave year, you got to wonder where is all that money being spent?

00:16:09.000 Well, now we know being spent on Lululemon, REI, vineyard vines, $700,000 for flowers, $17 million for donor mementos.

00:16:19.000 Darren Beattie made a really smart point to me.

00:16:21.000 He said, Charlie, the problem is conservatives' incentive structure is we get paid no matter whether or not we win or lose.

00:16:28.000 Democrats, they get paid once they control the government and they get all the crony detail deals that they pass through legislation.

00:16:35.000 They don't win, they don't get their crony deals passed.

00:16:38.000 For us, it's kind of like, yeah, win or lose, everybody gets paid.

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00:17:51.000 Darren, there's several topics I want to dance around with you.

00:17:54.000 You're going to be at AmericaFest.

00:17:55.000 Looking forward to seeing you.

00:17:56.000 It's going to be spectacular.

00:17:58.000 So, first, Darren, I thought you made a really smart point about the incentive structure of Republicans versus Democrats when you and I were texting about the waste of the RC money.

00:18:08.000 Can you make that argument?

00:18:09.000 I thought it was really smart.

00:18:11.000 Yes, and unfortunately, I can't take credit for it myself.

00:18:14.000 Someone on Twitter did it, and I don't know who it is, but it's a basic insight from which a tremendous amount of important conclusions can flow.

00:18:26.000 And the basic insight is this: that the Republicans, generally speaking, grift off of the process, primarily the election process.

00:18:37.000 They grift by sending you a million different messages saying, Hey, friend, have you donated $10 yet?

00:18:46.000 Have you donated $20 yet?

00:18:47.000 All the messages you get, they're taking money, they're getting money from donors, they're forking it over to very highly paid consultants who, in many cases, end up simply losing for candidates or giving the candidates bad advice that either results in a loss or results in the candidates presenting a weaker message that's not attractive to the patriotic American voter.

00:19:11.000 But the key point is that it's the process itself that feeds the coffers of the grifters on the Republican side.

00:19:22.000 And why this is important is that they don't really have to win.

00:19:26.000 They don't have to deliver because they make money off of the process.

00:19:30.000 By contrast, and I have to give credit where it's due, it's something that we as conservatives have been complaining about ad infinitum that what the Democrats do is they're stealing the taxpayer money, and that's absolutely true.

00:19:45.000 And ultimately, probably not a great model to run the country.

00:19:49.000 But from the Democrats' incentive structure, it actually is a lot better for them because at the very least, in order for them to have access to the public purse, in order for them to be able to distribute the taxpayer money, they actually have to win.

00:20:06.000 And so the incentive alignment there is so much more powerful.

00:20:11.000 And so if anybody has been wondering why the GOP has been relegated to this kind of controlled opposition sort of little brother type, you know, robin to the regime Batman sort of party.

00:20:26.000 Well, part of the reason for it and part of the kind of structural explanation for it is that the relevant people on the Republican side, they get fed, they have their good steak dinners, whether they lose or not, because they're drifting from you.

00:20:40.000 If you're watching this, they're taking your money versus the Democrats.

00:20:46.000 They're so plugged into the entire federal apparatus that they win and then they use that broad taxpayer base.

00:20:54.000 Yes.

00:20:55.000 That's how they get paid.

00:20:57.000 That's the key difference.

00:20:59.000 And they're so, you could write a whole book about all of the key implications of this basic insight.

00:21:06.000 That's so smart because the Republican consultant class, their lifestyle does not change at all, whether they win or lose at all.

00:21:18.000 I mean, they might get access to a couple more friends or that, but they keep on getting rehired and they get promoted simply because that they're in the quote unquote consultant class.

00:21:31.000 So Darren, how do we go about fixing this then?

00:21:34.000 Well, it's a great question.

00:21:36.000 And just before I get into the fix, I don't want to give the impression this is the only thing.

00:21:40.000 I think, you know, frankly, in a lot of cases, the Republican consultants are not really true believers.

00:21:46.000 They don't have any genuine convictions, whereas the people on the Democrat side actually do, you know, want to push all of this woke nonsense.

00:21:53.000 So there are other key factors at play, but this is one absolutely critical structural dimension that we're talking about right now.

00:22:01.000 So the question is, how to solve it?

00:22:03.000 Well, the first thing is I don't think this dynamic is even part of the lexicon.

00:22:08.000 So simply talking about it and addressing the problem in these terms is a huge step.

00:22:13.000 Secondly, I'd say we need to standardize certain mechanisms in terms of the political economy of how campaigns are financed, how money is raised that sort of improves the incentive structure.

00:22:27.000 And so in the standard contracts that consultants get and things like this, it needs to be weighted a lot more heavily to outcome-based compensation.

00:22:41.000 I know like the typical kind of contract has like certain benchmarks and things like this.

00:22:46.000 We need to standardize a praxis whereby it's weighted much, much more heavily toward a successful outcome and not you just get paid to basically do nothing.

00:22:57.000 And if you do something, it's usually counterproductive to the prospects of whoever you're allegedly giving good advice to.

00:23:04.000 So I think that's one key thing to built in, build that into the incentive structure.

00:23:10.000 I think maybe building off of Trump's excellent policy speech on how to deal with that censorship.

00:23:19.000 Yesterday, I mean, there was all this kind of nonsense about the trading cards or whatever, but it's too bad because there was actually a fabulous policy announcement yesterday.

00:23:29.000 Tell us about it.

00:23:31.000 Well, yeah, I'll go into detail on that, but just a quick sort of nexus point between those two.

00:23:37.000 One of the items that Trump recommended was like a, I think he said a seven-year moratorium.

00:23:43.000 So if you worked in the Intel community, you have to wait seven years before you enter the revolving door of occupying some trust and safety position in big tech.

00:23:54.000 So it sort of slows down considerably the momentum of the revolving door.

00:23:59.000 Similarly, I think we need some kind of negative consequences in place for these serial campaign consultants who just go from one losing operation and they grab $60,000 a month contracts.

00:24:14.000 They go from one $60,000 a month loss to the next.

00:24:18.000 We need to impose, again, this isn't going to be a matter of law, but it's a matter of sort of convention within the political economy of how things are done with campaigns and consultants.

00:24:29.000 If you're one of these $60,000 a month losers, you have to wait a certain period before you're given any other campaign.

00:24:37.000 Seriously.

00:24:37.000 There needs to be some kind of mechanism like that to deal with this problem, because if the incentives are not properly aligned, we're going to continue to see the same types of results.

00:24:49.000 That's exactly right.

00:24:51.000 It's remarkably frustrating.

00:24:52.000 Okay, Darren, I want to shift gears here.

00:24:54.000 Elon went on a ban spree last night for sharing coordinates of his own personal location.

00:25:02.000 What are your thoughts on that entire drama that is still unfolding?

00:25:06.000 Well, you know, there's, I personally can't help but feel a bit of a bit of Schadenfreude against these types.

00:25:15.000 I mean, it is, there is a certain delicious irony to seeing these figures whose really only job was to be commissars on behalf of the corrupt and illegitimate and censorious Biden regime.

00:25:31.000 And so to see these people like in on the other side, to see them have to experience, oh my God, we've spent years and years building up our career on Twitter.

00:25:40.000 How can you take our livelihood for us?

00:25:42.000 Like this isn't a matter of day-to-day life for anyone who tries to put forward a counter narrative on social media up till very recently when Elon took over Twitter.

00:25:56.000 So it's sort of a shoe on the other foot type of situation, which I think is quite nice.

00:26:03.000 And then there's the other element, which is I do think doxing is one of those, one of the very few things that actually should be controlled in terms of speech.

00:26:13.000 So we do want to control those things and on both sides and give them a sense that, say, look, you're welcome on the platform.

00:26:20.000 You can continue to thrive on the platform, but you have to play by the same rules as everyone else.

00:26:25.000 And just as a third point on it, I would kind of just to counter veil my initial kind of enthusiasm for these people's very well-deserved misfortune in being banned.

00:26:39.000 I don't ultimately think it's a good thing for these blue check woke journos to be banned from the platform, because I think part of the unique value of Twitter is it's the one place that offers now, with actual free speech, something close to an even playing field and battle arena in which people on the right can actually debate with and clash with people on the left and close to.

00:27:09.000 fair terms.

00:27:10.000 It's the only place where that can kind of happen.

00:27:13.000 And if we get to a point where a lot of these people are leaving, which they're not because they're addicted like everyone else and to the network effects, but if they actually did leave, I think that would be actually a significant net loss for speech and for Twitter.

00:27:29.000 Yeah, I want to just enjoy Taylor Lorenz's neuroticism.

00:27:36.000 I just want to, I want to delight in it. 0.99

00:27:40.000 I want to marinate in her freak out because she's a very, she's a, she is the chief doxer. 1.00

00:27:47.000 She tried to destroy Libs of TikTok's life. 1.00

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00:28:56.000 Darren, for those people that live beautiful and wonderful lives and have never heard about Taylor Lorenz, that's why they're happy.

00:29:03.000 Tell us who Taylor Lorenz is. 1.00

00:29:06.000 Well, she is an hysterical, neurotic doxer who makes a living off of revealing dangerous personal information about people. 1.00

00:29:17.000 Not personal information that's incriminating, just people that she doesn't agree with politically or, you know, probably better said people who her handlers and the people who control her because she's not really a sovereign entity. 1.00

00:29:30.000 She's just an instrument.

00:29:33.000 The people that the regime doesn't like, they select mediocre, talentless, sociopathic, hysterical banshees of the regime like Taylor Lorenz to be the vehicle through which they publish personal information of people who dare tack what Biden is doing and the regime and other things.

00:29:54.000 And they reveal the personal information for the precise purpose of putting their lives in danger. 1.00

00:30:00.000 And that's what she does.

00:30:01.000 That's Taylor Lorenz in a nutshell. 0.93

00:30:03.000 One of the issues, I think, Darren, is that she herself was chief doxer against libs of TikTok. 0.73

00:30:08.000 That was really where she tried to reveal this anonymous account whose only crime was noticing.

00:30:18.000 Whose only crime was noticing, absolutely.

00:30:20.000 So as we were saying, the whole purpose is to, here's an account, here's an individual who's operating under a pseudonym because these days you can't really challenge the regime openly unless you face public attacks and sometimes physical attacks, which you've experienced, I've experienced.

00:30:37.000 That's the name of the game.

00:30:38.000 And, you know, some people aren't crazy like we are, and they actually don't want to have to deal with that nonsense.

00:30:43.000 And so they operate under pseudonyms.

00:30:46.000 And what the regime lackeys and doxers do is they try to uncover that information to put these people in danger.

00:30:55.000 But there's one, like, there's a very dark rabbit hole behind the whole Taylor Lorenz thing that I want to make sure people understand is that to call her the doxer is actually giving her too much credit.

00:31:07.000 She's the mouthpiece for the dox, but revolver.news published a while ago a piece that actually the people who uncovered the personal information that Taylor Lorenz amplified are Antifa hackers who are funded by the German government to conduct doxing operations.

00:31:24.000 So she's just a mouthpiece.

00:31:26.000 And there are very, very nefarious actors who are these Antifa hacker organizations that are in the case is government funded.

00:31:34.000 Yeah, funded by the German government funding things.

00:31:38.000 Not exactly a good track record over the last hundred years.

00:31:40.000 Play cut 104, please.

00:31:42.000 It's just so rich to hear him complain about doxing and harassment.

00:31:46.000 I mean, I am doxed and harassed constantly on this app.

00:31:51.000 And it's just weird because definitely in the past few weeks, for instance, people tweeting out stuff like information about my family or all the stuff that's been used to target my family directly in the past.

00:32:03.000 Like, so I feel like Elon is very focused on his own experience, but for the rest of us, it's definitely become a less safe platform.

00:32:11.000 Look, I mean, for example, we know with greater certainty when Marcus Aurelius was born than Taylor Lorenz.

00:32:17.000 If you go to Wikipedia, they say that she was born anytime between 1984 and 1987. 0.99

00:32:23.000 Taylor Lorenz crying about the very crime that she herself inflicts against conservatives.

00:32:30.000 Absolutely.

00:32:31.000 It's a remarkable display of solipsism and sociopathy that can only be expressed by someone like Lorenz, who is handpicked as just sort of a mediocre, compliant mouthpiece for a regime and forces much bigger than her, much bigger than she understands.

00:32:49.000 And her only job is to use her mouthpiece and her perch at Washington Post in order to inflict danger and physical threats upon people who disagree with those who are promoting her. 1.00

00:33:02.000 So she's the most disgusting kind of scum imaginable. 0.99

00:33:06.000 And part of the problem with our current regime right now is that it buttresses people like this who should really be in the gutter somewhere. 1.00

00:33:14.000 Yeah, she's the worst.

00:33:16.000 Darren, we'll see you in a couple hours at AmericaFest.

00:33:18.000 Looking forward to it.

00:33:18.000 Thanks so much.

00:33:22.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:23.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:26.000 Thank you so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - December 17, 2022

Who Controls Twitter's Doxx Force? + Recovering SBF's Blood Money with Darren Beattie and John Chachas

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