Kamala Harris is a radical leftist with a radical track record on trans ideology and more. She believes that children should be allowed to be who they are, even if it's not the biological sex they were intended to be. She has been a vocal supporter of transphobia and anti-choice policies throughout her career, and is a vocal defender of the trans agenda in the Democratic Party. In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show with Mark Halperin and Andrew Yang, we discuss why we should all be worried about Kamala Harris becoming the next president of the United States and why she should be put on trial for her radical views on gender identity and trans issues. We also discuss why it's time to put her on trial and make her defend the trans nonsense that is plaguing our country and why we need to make her answer the question: Can anybody become a woman? and why it s a good thing that she doesn t believe that anyone can become a man or a woman, at least not if they are born that way. Join us as we discuss all of that and much more on this week s episode of the Charlie Kirk show with Andrew Yang and Brandon Showalter. Subscribe today using our podcast s promo code: "UPLEVEL" at checkout to receive 20% off your first month with discount code: KAVANAKEVILLION at checkout. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments at Noblegold.investments.com. That s where I buy all of my gold and I'll be giving you all of your gold and you get 10% off the purchase and get 20% of the company's entire portfolio. That's a year-long savings plan! Click here to receive $200 in gold and 5% off of $200 or more! That s a deal of $300 or $500 or $150,000 or $300,000 in total, and get 5% OFF your first year of a VIP membership when you become a Member of the program. you get VIP access to the show and get an ad discount when you shop with me, I'll get $5 or $25 or $50 or $75,000 gets you get $25,000, and I get $50, and they get 5,000 VIP access gets $5, VIP access and I ll get $10,000 get $4,000 PRICING AND VIP access when you get a VIP discount.
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00:01:42.000Brandon, what is Kamala Harris's track record regarding the trans issue, specifically when it comes to children?
00:01:51.000Well, Kamala Harris, in many ways, is kind of a perfect product of California, which has become what some refer to as a transgender sanctuary.
00:02:03.000Legislatively and culturally, that state, the Golden State, has enshrined gender ideology
00:02:09.000into all of its legal structures, into the law, into its institutions.
00:02:13.000And a cursory review of Kamala Harris's Twitter feed, both as vice president and before when
00:02:18.000she was a senator, reveals full-throated support of all things LGBTQ, especially in recent
00:02:25.000years of the TQ portion of that acronym.
00:02:28.000Just to give you an example, Charlie, when that Dylan Mulvaney influencer guy came to
00:02:34.000the White House, she sent him an effusive congratulatory letter after his appearance
00:02:41.000And it's kind of far for the course for a California left-wing politician.
00:02:48.000It seems that for all intents and purposes, LGBTQ dogma is the de facto religion of the day, and Kamala Harris is one of its chief acolytes in terms of those who are elected leaders.
00:02:59.000Yeah, and by the way, she should have to answer this.
00:03:01.000So she wrote a letter to the mentally challenged man, Dylan Mulvaney, who I really hope gets some treatment.
00:03:11.000Dylan Mulvaney needs some treatment that is not surgery or drugs.
00:03:38.000Does she believe that anybody can become a woman?
00:03:41.000Well it certainly seems to be, whether or not she really believes it or not, that's anybody's best guess because I think that there are many Democrats who, they're just going along with this because they feel sort of emotionally obligated to go along with all things LGBTQ because they have convinced themselves that it's the next frontier of civil rights.
00:04:00.000Whether or not anybody actually believes that a man can become a woman, I mean, only someone who is so thoroughly indoctrinated can actually believe that that's somehow possible physically, because we actually know it's of course impossible.
00:04:12.000But she's not afraid and has championed these lies for years about children shouldn't be afraid to be who they are, as though it is somehow possible to be something other than your actual sex.
00:04:25.000And so whether or not she really believes it, I can't get inside her head.
00:04:28.000I kind of doubt it, but she's happy to go along with these lies.
00:04:55.000She continues, in one of her tweets, she says, I will appoint LGBTQ plus people, by the way, she got the acronym wrong, it's more than that now, it's 2IA plus, including transgender and gender non-conforming people to leadership roles throughout my administration because our government and our courts work best when they reflect the people they serve.
00:05:18.000So Brandon, can Kamala Harris answer the question, what is a woman?
00:05:22.000Well, I don't think she would if she was asked point blank.
00:05:26.000She would probably pull a Kentonji Brown-Jackson, just like when Senator Blackburn did during her hearings.
00:05:32.000It's interesting that this is coming up, too, because when Brett Kavanaugh was, you know, during his hearing, she was asking him a question about, is there any differences between, you know, men and women about the law and how it applies to them?
00:05:45.000Clearly, she was, Hinting at abortion being so she clearly does know what a woman is, because no man has ever gotten an abortion and never and never will.
00:05:55.000But it just sort of goes to show you yet again, Charlie, that this is the contradiction, the blatant contradiction that the Democratic Party as a whole, and Kamala Harris in particular willing to go along with.
00:06:05.000In order to defend this insane fiction that a woman is whatever any person who says they are one, including men who put on woman face and wear womanhood like a costume as those drag performance did.
00:06:18.000So this is this is the chief and people want to talk about the big lie.
00:06:21.000Well, this is the big lie of our time.
00:06:23.000So, based on your research, I believe it's fair to say that Kamala Harris is supportive of the mutilation of children for gender-affirming care.
00:06:36.000I see no reason to think that she isn't.
00:06:39.000I mean, she's been championing the LGBTQ cause and talking about defending trans rights, of which, quote-unquote, gender-affirming care is the foremost concern of the activists.
00:06:50.000And so yes, I fully expect that in a Kamala Harris administration, we would see a full bore, even as Europe is backpedaling, even as scrutiny has emerged in many conservative states of these Treatments, if you can even call them that, puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and these awful surgeries.
00:07:06.000I see no reason to think that Kamala Harris would not be fully supportive of that, in support of being who you are.
00:07:14.000This notion that in order to become your true self, you need to undergo these experimental drugs and surgeries.
00:07:21.000Her sister Maya, for example, I mean, I'm not, I would want to distinguish between individuals here.
00:07:26.000She is her own person, of course, but just to give you how closely tethered Her family is.
00:07:31.000Maya was on the board of the Arcus Foundation, which is one of the major medical, excuse me, LGBTQ foundations headed by John Stryker, the billionaire whose fortune is from Stryker Medical.
00:07:44.000If you go into a hospital and you see the gurneys, all the medical device equipment, That largess has funded the Arcus Foundation, which then funds the ACLU, which then turned around and sues states like Arkansas and others that have prohibited transing kids.
00:07:57.000Her sister, Kamala Harris's sister, was on the board of that organization, of the Arcus Foundation, for I believe two years, joined in 2017 and I believe left In 2019, I'm aware of feminists who have tried to bring their concerns to Kamala Harris about how insane quote-unquote gender identity is, but I believe those concerns have fallen on deaf ears and Kamala Harris continues to champion this notion that you can be something other than your sex with impunity.
00:08:23.000Separate issue, but it's important to understand that feminism leads to the trans issue.
00:08:27.000If you dive into the literature of feminism, it's all about destroying the binary.
00:08:32.000That's always what they were talking about.
00:08:34.000It was about why can't men be more feminine and why can't women be more masculine?
00:08:38.000That's actually at the root of Gloria Steinem's Feminine Mystique and that entire movement back in the 60s.
00:09:42.000Boston Children's Hospital, and this is going on at many children's hospitals across this country, are performing these grotesque surgeries, yes, even on minors.
00:09:51.000And I have documented receipts from medical journals showing that girls have had their breasts amputated who are as young as 13 years old.
00:09:58.000Boys have had vaginoplasties at 15 and 16.
00:10:02.000This is medical journals like JAMA Pediatrics, the Journal of Clinical Medicine, the Journal of Sexual Medicine.
00:10:09.000This is one of the worst child abuse and medical scandals that the world has ever seen, and Kamala Harris is happy to defend it with all of this nice-sounding language and euphemisms that obscure the truth of what's really going on.
00:10:20.000There's going to be a reckoning over these crimes against humanity, in my opinion, and she's going to regret saying those words that she did right there because she's covering up medical atrocities, and there's no two ways about it.
00:12:05.000Yes, the parent that I'm speaking of is Ted Hudako.
00:12:09.000If people are familiar with the journalist Abigail Schreier, who wrote the Watershed book in 2020 called Irreversible Damage, she profiled his plight in February of 2022 in the City Journal.
00:12:21.000And then I and some other investigative reporters have since covered other aspects of his case.
00:12:26.000But should Kamala Harris become president, we can expect California, the trans sanctuary, will become a trans country, a trans sanctuary country.
00:12:36.000Because what people need to understand, Charlie, is that under the leadership of trans zealots, Kamala Harris being one and others like her in the state.
00:12:44.000This overtakes all of our relevant institutions, the family courts, all government entities, the legislature.
00:12:53.000We focus a lot in our podcast about the child abuse and the medical abuse in Generation Indoctrination, our podcast.
00:13:01.000But what is also extremely important is that how this fractures families.
00:13:05.000And Ted's case is a case study, really, of how things can go wrong.
00:13:10.000A judge, very briefly, a judge removed his custody because he wouldn't support the affirmation.
00:13:15.000He was questioning about how to support his then-minor son, who claimed to be female.
00:13:22.000And in violation of the court order, doctors at the gender clinic in San Francisco surgically implanted a puberty blocker in his minor son's arm.
00:13:30.000Again, that violated the court order, which said no gender identity-related surgery.
00:13:34.000That man, Ted Hudako, has been at through absolute hell at every single turn.
00:13:39.000What we say is they cover all the exits.
00:13:41.000Trans activism will ruin and rule your life.
00:13:44.000I would very much urge everyone to go to listen to the full story of what this is like.
00:13:49.000If you go to GenerationIndoctrination.com, you'll hear a 40-minute conversation that I had with this beleaguered father and his attorney about what this is like.
00:13:59.000But if any parent who is listening to me today thinks that this can't happen to them, that's what everyone says when they call me.
00:14:07.000And Ted Hudako's story is, it really is very typical of what can happen if you are forced to interface with family courts or the government when transgender activism takes over.
00:14:18.000Here's Elon Musk with Jordan Peterson on Daily Wire Plus.
00:14:22.000He's one of the smartest and is the richest man in the world who fell for this trans poison.
00:14:47.000And I agree with you that people that have been promoting this should go to prison.
00:14:50.000So I was, I was tricked into doing this, um, and, uh, you know, it wasn't explained to me that puberty blockers are actually just sterilization drugs, um, and so I lost my son, essentially.
00:15:03.000Uh, so, you know, they, uh, they call it dead naming for a reason.
00:15:08.000Yeah, I... Alright, so the reason it's called dead naming is because, uh, your son is dead.
00:15:30.000If Kamala Harris is to win the presidency, what would that mean for children in this country?
00:15:36.000I think it would mean that the children of America would be indoctrinated into gender ideology even more thoroughly than they already are.
00:15:43.000You can expect to see sterilization drugs like blockers and hormones to become the policy across nationwide.
00:15:51.000I think you're going to expect to see the full bore entrenchment of this insanity on a level that's it's already bad even now with Rachel Levine at number two in HHS and Javier Becerra.
00:16:03.000The White House has only backpedaled a little bit saying they don't support trans surgeries on minors, but even that was just a political move.
00:16:09.000You can expect to see tragic stories like Ted Hudako become amplified and Elon Musk amplified even more unless this is somehow stopped.
00:16:19.000I would urge everyone, if they can, to go listen to our documentary podcast at the Christian Post, GenerationIndoctrination.com.
00:16:26.000And if you want to see what this is doing to families across the political spectrum, go to DeadNameDocumentary.com and you'll see the searing pain that this causes families.
00:16:35.000And whether you're a Republican, or a Democrat, or an Independent, a Centrist, or Apolitical, You need to care about this because what could be more important than the health and welfare of our children?
00:16:45.000I don't think any American, regardless of their politics, anyone who's halfway decent, wants to see a child wind up sterile and surgically disfigured.
00:16:53.000This is the issue of the day as far as I'm concerned.
00:16:55.000Harris presidency will lead to a woke mind virus pandemic, the likes of which we do not have a safe and effective vaccine.
00:17:26.000I just want people to check out Two Way because it's this bipartisan, really respectful back and forth between you and everyday Americans and what they're hearing on the ground.
00:17:34.000I got a lot out of it, so people should check it out.
00:17:39.000Mark, you were able to report the Biden story before anybody else with incredible precision and accuracy, despite mockery from some people in the more, let's just say, higher levels of established media.
00:17:52.000Tell us about how you were able to get that story so quickly and so correct.
00:17:56.000Well, I've been at it for a long time, and people say, how do you know which sources to trust?
00:18:02.000It's just over time you learn who's reliable and who's not, who's careless and who's careful.
00:18:07.000And like a lot of great stories that get broken, it started with just luck.
00:18:14.000I can't say who it was, but someone who you wouldn't think would be a source for this.
00:18:18.000And he gave me a little piece of it, and then I just kept calling different people, and then someone sent me an email with the whole thing just laid out, and they said they were quite confident it was true.
00:18:28.000I think this was all set in motion well before the White House was acknowledged, and so I think I was actually late to this story, but I was able to be very confident that what I was told was true.
00:18:40.000And I didn't mind when the White House said it wasn't true, because what are they going to say?
00:18:44.000Oh yeah, we're going to announce to the President that he's not going to seek the nomination.
00:18:47.000So I was confident and grateful to the folks who helped me break it.
00:18:53.000So, Mark, kind of entertain my speculation here because my mind goes even further back.
00:18:58.000Is there any evidence that there were people within the Democrat Party or the Biden-Harris campaign that were pushing for a summer debate for Joe Biden as a potential forcing function because they were worried about his collapsing poll numbers in May and early June?
00:19:16.000I know that's a common theory amongst many.
00:19:20.000What was motivating them was a belief that Joe Biden couldn't win the election on the trajectory they were on, that they couldn't wait to the fall to have debates because by then the whole thing would be cooked in, and they thought they could prepare him well enough that he would do significantly better than he Of course he did.
00:19:36.000So I know, again, I know people like to speculate about that, but according to my reporting, it was just the opposite.
00:19:42.000They were using it to try to advance his prospects of beating Donald Trump, because they saw no other way to cut the lead, which was small, but very durable and very dangerous, because Joe Biden had maybe one path to the Electoral College victory, but probably zero.
00:19:57.000And you've reported this before, which is that Joe Biden only had one path and one path only.
00:20:02.000No one's ever been able to win the White House with just one path.
00:20:08.000So this entire saga, for those of us that are in the conservative world, has been a very interesting window into who actually holds the power in the Democrat Party.
00:20:17.000I'm not actually even sure what the answer to that is, Mark.
00:20:20.000Who are the two or three stakeholders or individuals or families that that finally was able to convince Biden?
00:21:44.000I know Nancy Pelosi was at the center of it.
00:21:46.000And if you're looking for one person in this storyline, and if you're looking for one person who says, still, even though she's no longer Speaker, has the power of the party, I'd say Nancy Pelosi is first among equals.
00:21:57.000I think I'll eventually piece it together, but again, suffice to say, she determined that her friend would bring the Democratic Party down if he stayed as a nominee, and she used a combination of delicious carrots and very rough and pointy rocks to get him to step aside.
00:22:12.000And she's the only one with the political skill that was able to get this done, as well.
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00:23:43.000So, Mark, you've been doing a lot of reporting on who Kamala Harris might choose as her vice president.
00:23:50.000There's a lot of whispers, there's a lot of rumors.
00:23:52.000The finalists seem to be Mark Kelly, Josh Shapiro, and maybe Cooper or Walsh as dark horses.
00:23:58.000But it seems like the two ones that are most mentioned right now are Mark Kelly and Josh Shapiro.
00:24:03.000The way I analyze that is Mark Kelly is a more ambitious or aggressive pick, thinking that you can open up the Sun Belt, thinking that you can maybe win Arizona, Nevada, whereas Josh Shapiro might be a pure Rust Belt play.
00:24:15.000However, might not help you very much in Michigan, given with a Gaza component still in play.
00:24:21.000Mark, do you agree with that analysis, and who do you think the finalists actually are?
00:24:25.000Yeah, so I have maybe a more traditional view of this, and it's based on just studying every deep stake since I started in the business.
00:24:33.000The most important thing, number one, and it's really number one through 20, is you got to pick someone who people see as qualified to be president.
00:24:40.000If you pass that test, everything else is minor in both the upside and the downside.
00:24:46.000If you fail to pass that test, if you pick someone who doesn't meet the standard, It can really hurt your campaign.
00:24:50.000So when you're evaluating, and I believe that the Vice President knows this, when you're evaluating who to pick, that's the focus.
00:24:58.000It's not these subsidiary considerations.
00:25:00.000So once you clear that bar, then the second consideration, I believe, is not can they bring one state or even a region, but do they create kind of an alchemy, kind of a national storyline, either because it's balancing the top of the ticket.
00:25:14.000Think of Bush Cheney, someone who wasn't perceived as having as having national security experience coupled with someone
00:25:19.000who did, or Clinton Gore 92, right? And I think the model that the people around the
00:25:24.000vice president are interested in is, is there an alchemy of kind of a buddy picture where
00:25:29.000the two of them together create a kind of a tableau of change, of youth, of energy, of
00:25:37.000dynamism, and whatever it is that they want the country to think Donald Trump isn't. And so I
00:25:44.000think in both Kelly and Shapiro, and I've thought for a while that those two would are the
00:25:48.000most amongst the most likely, I think they can they see a narrative, a storyline of
00:25:52.000pairing them together to say, this is different.
00:25:55.000This is exciting to capture the public imagination.
00:25:58.000Because I'll say, most Americans who are going to decide this election, they're not paying much attention.
00:26:02.000They don't have much of a view of Vice President Harris at this point, maybe a wispy one.
00:26:06.000I think in the end, right now, based on my reporting over the weekend, that Shapiro is the most likely.
00:26:12.000I think there are people in the vice president's world who are even starting to think about how that announcement would go, what that rollout would be like.
00:26:18.000But she's got some time, and because of the changing dynamics every day, I think they're considering over and over again, what makes sense?
00:26:27.000What's the best matchup to create a national picture that could elevate her chances?
00:26:32.000Now, I don't want to misquote you, Mark, but I believe you said in one of your two-way broadcasts that you've long said the best way to beat Trump is with a black candidate and a Jewish candidate.
00:27:26.000And I think knowing how to take advantage of So, I think that's really well put.
00:27:38.000Mark, there's been a lot of reporting in the last year about how the Republican Party and Donald Trump's path to a second term goes through low-propensity voters.
00:27:47.000There's been a realignment where higher-propensity voters tend to favor Democrats, and lower-propensity voters are more and more in the Republican category and the Republican camp.
00:27:55.000With that being said, and with those dynamics at play, do you think that Kamala Harris becoming the nominee might actually get us back to a form that we recognize more, where suburban and boomer voters might actually gravitate more towards Republicans, and lower propensity voters of color might get back into the Democrat category?
00:28:33.000And I think what you're seeing now is a lot of unknown.
00:28:36.000I think Harris could win this election easily.
00:28:38.000I think it could be a nail-biter that could go either way, and I think she could be blown out.
00:28:42.000And I don't think, you know, we're all impatient to know, I don't think we'll know until September.
00:28:47.000You think about the three weeks we've just gone through, almost four weeks.
00:28:50.000All the extraordinary events from the debate, to the pressure to get Joe Biden out, to the assassination attempt, to the miraculous switch from Biden to Harris in, you know, within a day.
00:29:03.000And wonder now, where's the electorate as we head into a very intense effort by the Republicans to disqualify Kamala Harris and her VPIC, her convention?
00:29:14.000I don't think we're going to see how this settles down and answer the question you asked about real potential realignment until we get to the fall.
00:29:21.000There's no doubt that she has some of Joe Biden's baggage, including the Biden-Harris record.
00:29:26.000There's no doubt that she doesn't have a lot of his baggage.
00:29:28.000She's not in her 80s, but she's got baggage and strength of her own.
00:29:33.000And can she appeal more to younger voters, black voters, the so-called Obama coalition of the ascendant, which does have a lower propensity to turn out?
00:29:42.000Vance is not having the best week of his career, part of why he was picked was to get some of those low-preventing Trump voters, rural and exurban voters in your state, in all the battleground states, Very smart.
00:29:53.000Mark, really quick, but can you just please tell the audience exactly how they can check out Two Way?
00:29:58.000do that because he's offended the sensibilities of other voters, some of whom Republicans
00:30:03.000need, but a lot of whom are just liberals who are never going to vote for the ticket
00:30:41.000So Mark, if you were giving objective advice to the Trump campaign, looking at the race of where it is now, and understanding his track record of debating, for better or for worse, would you advise him to debate against Kamala Harris?
00:30:55.000I never advise politicians, Charlie, but I can tell you from talking to Republicans, whose judgment I trust, that most of them, I would say, favor a debate, but some of them are a little worried.
00:31:49.000Well, look, it's hard to measure these things quantitatively, but there's no doubt that Sarah Palin helped John McCain a lot more than people normally would say.
00:31:56.000They'd normally say she was a national joke, she hurt the ticket, and she clearly did with some voters, but she helped with others.
00:32:02.000And I think One of the things that the Trump people cited when he moved towards taking Vance, and as you know, many people urged him not to.
00:32:10.000They didn't think it was the best pick.
00:32:12.000But those who supported it, amongst the things I heard from them all the time, was you've got these, as we said in the earlier segment, low propensity voters, particularly in the rural areas and the ex-urban areas, and that exists in all the battleground states, who like Donald Trump but It may not connect with him as well as J.D.
00:32:30.000Vance, they think, has almost a magical, almost a mystical capacity, through his story, through his personality, through his rhetoric, to reach those folks and get them to turn out.
00:32:39.000And as we saw in, you know, the difference between 2016 and 2020, a narrow Trump win versus a narrow Trump loss, to some extent, was the drop off in those voters.
00:32:48.000Now, the Biden campaign versus the Trump campaign, as you know, the Trump campaign thought they could do very well with young male Hispanic and Black voters.
00:32:59.000But to the extent the Trump campaign has got a job to do that they think can be decisive, it's turning out those low-propensity rural and ex-urban voters.
00:33:46.000And until we get to Labor Day and we've seen whatever convention cuts they're going to get, whatever impact the vice presidential selection of the Democrats has, I think that'll kind of settle down and resolve itself by the fall.
00:33:58.000For now, I think we've seen in what data there's available, Harris is doing better than Biden.
00:34:09.000But she clearly is doing better, including with boomers, including with young people, including with black voters.
00:34:14.000A lot of the groups where Donald Trump was, by historical standards, overperforming.
00:34:18.000And that's why the Biden people realized they had no path, because Donald Trump was doing great with his folks and pretty good with what are normally Democratic constituencies.
00:34:29.000So Mark, the best path for Kamala has to be run the table in the Rust Belt and or maybe pick off a Sun Belt state.
00:34:38.000Yeah, look, I spent the weekend asking Republican and Democratic strategists with presidential campaign experience of the four Sun Belt states, which one does Harris have the best chance of putting in play?
00:34:48.000And I got about a 25% chance vote for all of them.
00:34:52.000You know, it's not clear, and that's irrespective of who she might pick as a running mate.
00:34:55.000So I think, you know, don't overestimate or underestimate the chances she may have problems with that congressional district in Omaha, which she needs even if she gets the three Rust Belt states.
00:35:06.000So I think she's got to worry about that, that CD, that congressional district, and then All seven battleground states.
00:35:12.000I don't think she can take any of them for granted.
00:35:14.000But sure, today you'd say her path is the same very narrow singular one that Joe Biden had, which is Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Omaha.
00:35:22.000It's a heavy lift to have to run the table because if that ends up being the case, no one's ever done it.
00:35:28.000Yeah, the last 30 days, if you're the Trump campaign, you're smiling, you're like, we just have to go one for three.
00:35:33.000If that ends up being the case, if she's not able to broaden the map to the Sun Belt.