00:00:01.000Citizen Kane joins us as we talk about how they are going to try and disqualify Donald Trump from becoming the next president of the United States.
00:00:10.000Miranda Devine joins the program to talk about the recent allegations against Joe Biden.
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00:02:48.000He puts out a tweet and he says, these charges are completely bogus.
00:02:53.000I've been set up because someone is trying to protect Joe Biden, Jim Biden, and Hunter Biden, Jim Biden being Joe Biden's younger brother.
00:03:06.000And so, of course, that piqued my interest.
00:03:08.000I got in contact with his lawyer, had an interview with his lawyer who told an intriguing tale, which was that Gal Luft was about to testify or had been talking anyway to House Oversight Committee now run by Republicans.
00:03:25.000He was going to testify about bribery allegations to do with the Biden family and the Chinese.
00:03:33.000And he also had given this information to the government back in March of 2019, a month before Joe Biden announced that he was running for president.
00:03:47.000It was called a proffer meeting where he gives information to two prosecutors from the Southern District of New York and four FBI agents.
00:03:58.000They met on neutral territory in Brussels because at that point he was living in Israel.
00:04:04.000And the meeting went over many hours over two days in the American embassy in Brussels.
00:04:11.000And what he alleges is that nothing ever came of that meeting, that there was never any investigation done into Joe Biden.
00:04:20.000He had told them dollar amounts of money that had been paid to Hunter and Jim Biden by the Chinese.
00:04:29.000I think it was $100,000 a month to Hunter, $65,000 to Jim Biden.
00:04:34.000He told them how the money was getting to the Biden family through a Biden family associate called Rob Walker.
00:04:40.000The money would be paid to his account.
00:04:42.000He would then funnel it across to members of the Biden family.
00:04:47.000And the other thing that Gal Luft said that he told the DOJ and FBI in Brussels was that Hunter Biden had a mole inside the FBI who had the nickname One Eye.
00:04:59.000I know it sounds ridiculous, but that's what he said.
00:05:02.000And that this FBI mole had given classified information to the Chinese via Hunter.
00:05:10.000And that included tipping them off when the FBI had an investigation against them.
00:05:17.000So this all sounds like a very wild story, but elements of it really do check out.
00:05:22.000And so I've been talking, I'd been talking to Gal Luft's lawyer, and I had been promised that a whole lot of questions that I had to follow up that the lawyer couldn't answer, that he would put to Gal Luft, who was then in jail in Cyprus.
00:05:36.000Then in April, Gal Luft gets bail, disappears, and he becomes the missing witness that James Comer talked about.
00:05:58.000His car was seen near the airport there in Cyprus.
00:06:03.000There were other stories that he might have been bumped off.
00:06:07.000And so finally, the lawyer says that he can't comment, but I do get a message from a third party I've never heard of saying that Gal Luft wanted to talk to me.
00:06:18.000And I thought that, you know, this could be someone just setting me up.
00:06:57.000Is this a guy who's telling the truth?
00:06:59.000Is this a guy who means well, or is it somewhere in the middle that he probably did something he shouldn't have done, but he has legitimate dirt?
00:07:07.000What does your instinct from all your years in reporting tell you about who we're dealing with here?
00:07:11.000Look, my instinct is that he is telling the truth.
00:07:15.000Obviously, you know, you always look for the self-serving element in this.
00:07:19.000And I think what it is, is that back in that period, you know, the end of the Obama administration and beyond, CEFC was riding high.
00:07:31.000It was this Chinese energy company with this young sort of charismatic chairman who was just throwing money around Washington, D.C.
00:07:41.000And as Gal Luft says, Washington was just a swamp of Farah violations.
00:07:49.000And this obviously was before Donald Trump comes in and starts cracking down on the Chinese, which of course made him very unpopular with the swamp, which had been making oodles of money.
00:07:59.000And so swimming in this sea, I think was, you know, probably Gal Luft.
00:08:07.000He had this think tank and he was staging all these energy sort of events around the world.
00:08:16.000And I assume that they were lucrative.
00:08:19.000Now, Gal Luft, remember, also was a former high-ranking officer in the Israeli Defense Force.
00:08:25.000So I wondered if, and people had said to me that they had heard that he was part of Mossad.
00:08:31.000Now, I did ask him that, and he said, kind of said no, kind of said no.
00:08:38.000But I think the self-serving element of it was that when OneEye tipped off his Chinese partners, that the FBI had an investigation into them, that Gal Luft was told that there were on the indictment were two Chinese and one Jewish person and someone else.
00:09:04.000And Gal Luft leapt to the conclusion that maybe that was him.
00:09:09.000And, you know, after obviously Donald Trump came in, the DOJ decided to weaponize Farah, this foreign agent registration.
00:09:18.000This old Nazi era law that was only used eight times in 80 years and it was used against like the Cuban criminals in the 90s.
00:09:25.000They dusted it off and all of a sudden here it is.
00:09:30.000They dusted it off and they jailed people in the Trump orbit, including Paul Manafort on Farah violations.
00:09:37.000So before that, really, Farah wasn't a big deal at all.
00:09:43.000And it wasn't being enforced and no one was talking about it.
00:09:46.000So I guess that after the musical chairs game changed with Trump, they decided people started getting worried about that they were going to be in trouble for Farah.
00:09:59.000So that's my reading of Gal Luft's motivation.
00:10:03.000That he decided that after Patrick Ho, one of these Chinese guys, was arrested, charged with bribery and convicted in New York, that Gal Luft decided that he would go to the DOJ and tell them what he knew about the Biden influence peddling.
00:10:24.000And whether or not he was trying to trade that information, that much bigger information in return for leniency in some other part, I don't know.
00:10:37.000But he doesn't even know if he was really on that indictment because it was just what Hunter's FBI mole had told Hunter, who had told the Chinese, who were telling Gal Luft.
00:11:24.000And so he was not ensnared in that net.
00:11:27.000I mean, he was later arrested in China, which is another story.
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00:12:25.000Who is your best guess as to who one-eye is?
00:12:27.000Do you think it's Louis Free or somebody else?
00:12:29.000Look, I know that that's a speculation because he's, you know, a former FBI director who had dealings with the Biden family and who has or looks like he has one eye and was in an accident where he did damage an eye.
00:12:44.000But I would just caution people not to jump to conclusions.
00:12:47.000And I don't want to cast any aspersions on Louis Free, who I haven't spoken to yet.
00:12:53.000But it is perfectly possible that Hunter Biden had a different FBI mole.
00:13:02.000I think he did have a mole because there were these tip-offs, but that it could have been someone else.
00:13:08.000There are numerous FBI people on the laptop that he had numbers for.
00:13:13.000And it would be a clever thing to do, I guess, to let your Chinese partners believe that it was the former FBI director who they had met doing legitimate business with who was the tip-off rather than a more lower-level person.
00:13:32.000And so Gal Luft is saying that the tip-off merchant was one-eye because that's what the Chinese told him.
00:13:39.000But the Chinese maybe were mistaken because that's what Hunter had told them.
00:13:44.000And Hunter is not an arbiter of truth, let's say.
00:13:49.000Are there any other candidates that would stand out?
00:13:52.000I mean, so just like, let me ask a really simple, stupid question.
00:13:55.000You think this person actually has one eye, right?
00:13:56.000This is not just a kind of a colloquial.
00:13:59.000No, no, I think Louis Free was given the nickname One Eye by the Chinese, but it may not have been him, is what I'm saying.
00:14:09.000And Hunter, you know, for instance, Charles McGonagall, who was the former head of counterintelligence for the FBI in New York and is now being arrested and on charges of corruption to do with Albania.
00:14:23.000There was some connection between him and Hunter Biden back in Washington, D.C. when McGonagall was working there.
00:14:34.000But I would just caution everybody not to jump to conclusions with all these stories.
00:14:39.000What is in front of you is not necessarily the reality.
00:14:44.000So, Miranda, how do you see this then playing out?
00:14:47.000Do you think that Dr. Luft is going to be able to come and ever testify to the House Oversight Committee?
00:14:53.000I mean, is there going to be an extraordinary, unprecedented maybe codel of House Republicans that travel internationally and take his testimony at an undisclosed location?
00:15:38.000And so whether they do it via video link in some way that where Gal Luft isn't revealing to the authorities where he is, I just don't know.
00:15:49.000I don't know what even the criminality of that is.
00:15:52.000Yeah, and it's just hard to keep track of all these different elements.
00:15:56.000And so, Miranda, out of all the different crimes that we now have even more evidence for than ever before the last couple of months.
00:16:04.000Are there any that could potentially lead towards the big guy?
00:16:08.000Or are you a little bit more bearish as saying that they're covering this up and we may never get ultimate justice towards the Biden crine family?
00:16:27.000And we know from Gary Shapley, the IRS whistleblower, that the DOJ intervened and obstructed and ensured that questions about who is the big guy were off the table.
00:16:38.000Any questions about Joe Biden or his involvement were off the table.
00:16:49.000And it's all done under the guise of Joe Biden protecting his son.
00:16:53.000And there's so much evidence that Joe Biden was involved, was assisting this influence peddling operation of his family.
00:17:04.000He met with at least a dozen of Hunter Biden's overseas business partners.
00:17:08.000He lied about that to the American people before the election and continues to say he knows nothing about Hunter Biden's business dealings.
00:17:16.000So, you know, bit by bit, chink by chink, jigsaw puzzle piece by piece, we are putting together the truth.
00:17:25.000And, you know, whether or not it is done in time for Joe Biden to face the music, I don't know.
00:20:02.000And again, these other banks that I deal with, it's like, here's 955,000 pages to sign, and they don't call you back, and they don't work weekends.
00:20:10.000I had a problem with one of the things on the process because it was one thing that wasn't filled out.
00:20:13.000And they respond on a Sunday within minutes.
00:20:16.000You're trying to get a response from a woke bank on a Sunday.
00:21:39.000It's weak after six years and two months, never missing a day.
00:21:43.000I actually didn't miss anything, but we had a, you know, when the storms went through the Midwest and they hit Indiana, we had straight line winds for about 30 seconds of 60 to 70 miles per hour and it knocked out power at, I call it CFT Global Headquarters, knocked out power for four days because there were 200,000 people in central and southern Indiana who lost power.
00:22:08.000So yeah, so updates on Saturday and Sunday were, I don't know, 40 or 50 stories each.
00:22:16.000And then my dad, without giving too many details, my dad slipped the other day and he fell and he fractured two vertebrates.
00:22:39.000I visit it no joke dozens of times a day sometimes and I could tell when Kane is taking a nap because the deck is not always getting reorganized.
00:22:46.000So Kane, I kind of have a little bit of a window into your psyche because I could see what stories you promote.
00:22:51.000But you've really been on top of this Jack Smith stuff.
00:22:54.000And I'm glad because I consider this to be one of the kind of stories that isn't a big deal until it becomes the entire deal, almost similar to COVID, right?
00:23:03.000Where COVID was kind of on the edges and, you know, okay, and then all of a sudden it became the entire election was defined by it.
00:23:09.000I think Jack Smith is 2024 COVID, where it's just going to kind of come straight front and center.
00:24:29.000Let people know that the rumors are out there that if Judge Cannon doesn't give rulings that Jack Smith likes, that they could bring additional Mar-a-Lago indictments in other states.
00:24:40.000So let's call that 1A on the Mar-a-Lago.
00:24:44.000Then on January 6th, as Julie Kelly has talked about, we've got the sort of sedition and conspiracy angle that Jack Smith is going to push, saying that Trump essentially brought all of these people to D.C.
00:24:59.000Then there's the fake electors, which has really been heating up.
00:25:02.000That's what you've been talking about.
00:25:06.000Jack Smith has been all over Georgia and Arizona interviewing all kinds of state officials.
00:25:13.000And big stories have been breaking the last 24 hours there.
00:26:19.000So there haven't been real leaks of strategy.
00:26:21.000It's all sort of been, hey, let's try to figure out what they're doing based on who they're interviewing and who they're bringing forward to testify before these grand juries.
00:26:31.000And it look, you know, I don't, we aren't saying that there are definitely going to be three separate January 6th indictments, right?
00:26:38.000But there's a, it certainly looks like there could be two of them.
00:26:42.000We don't, you know, and again, it's all reading tea leaves.
00:26:45.000But if Julie Kelly is correct and they're going to go for that obstruction angle, you know, and having Mike Pence, you know, bringing Mike Pence before the grand jury, that sort of lends credence to that.
00:26:56.000And then the latest story I did today, it seems like Jack Smith is really interested in that Oval Office West Wing meeting where Sidney Powell, General Flynn, and Patrick Byrne were all present.
00:27:08.000So, yeah, so there's a new one, right?
00:27:10.000They're going after Patrick Byrne on this.
00:27:12.000But I think what they're trying to do is, Kane, I think they're trying to build a case for seditious conspiracy or insurrection to get it.
00:27:24.000Remember, the way these people think, this is the Peter Struckstroke smirk text, the same philosophy.
00:27:30.000Seven to eight years later, their insurance policy, Kane, their backup plan, their insurance policy is if MAGA is ascendant and the country's in shambles and Trump wins, that their Trump card, their insurance policy, is that they have him indicted and convicted of seditious conspiracy or insurrection.
00:27:53.000Yeah, it goes along with what you said of Jack Smith becoming sort of the COVID of 2024.
00:28:01.000You and I have felt from the beginning that they're going to try, right?
00:28:04.000This is a public relations battle, especially talking about the race for president.
00:28:09.000So if they can't put Trump in jail, they can certainly attach multiple indictments to him to help, you know, to help bring him down.
00:28:16.000And so this idea that you hit him with overkill, right?
00:28:19.000That he's facing the Alvin Bragg case, that he's going to be facing the Fenny Willis case, that he will be facing the Mar-a-Lago documents case.
00:28:28.000And then you throw that seditious conspiracy for January 6th on top of that.
00:28:34.000And then if they go after fake electors in a separate case, that's number five.
00:28:39.000And then if they go after quote-unquote false fundraising based on overturning the election, that might be a subcomponent of either the seditious conspiracy case or the fake electors case.
00:28:52.000But the point being, it's obvious what the strategy is.
00:28:56.000And you and I have wondered if they're somehow secret, you know, if these prosecutors are communicating with each other.
00:29:01.000But the strategy seems to be from Jack Smith.
00:29:03.000Let's slap this guy with as many indictments as we possibly can and hope that it helps.
00:29:10.000You know, they really still are worried.
00:29:12.000There was a big poll that came out yesterday that I posted where they didn't label the states.
00:29:18.000I didn't have time to look into it completely, but Trump is leading Biden by seven points in key swing states.
00:29:24.000And part of that is because in this polling, Dr. Cornell West was pulling 2% to 3% of Democrat votes.
00:29:33.000So my overall larger point is that, yeah, Jack Smith seems to me like he's going to try to kill him with indictments, whether he gets guilty verdicts or not.
00:29:45.000And that is their strategy to bring down Trump's popularity with independence, would be my read.
00:31:50.000But yeah, there's a chance that this whole thing does end up at the Supreme Court on multiple levels, including, you know, perhaps the Presidential Records Act, which seems to be Trump's defense in the Mar-a-Lago case.
00:32:02.000I know you only have a few seconds, so I'll sort of slide it back to you, but this has been a, yeah, it's been a heck of a six months, and these next 12 months are going to be amazing for media people like you and me.
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00:33:29.000No person shall hold any office, civil or military, under the United States or under any state who, having taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
00:33:49.000So Kane, let's pretend we're Jack Smith for a second.
00:33:52.000You have the oath keepers that have already been indicted on, I mean, sorry, convicted under seditious conspiracy.
00:33:58.000They're going to try to make a seditious conspiracy claim against Trump.
00:34:02.000They might not be able to get to insurrection, but that word rebellion is open for interpretation.
00:34:08.000Kane, I think the whole ballgame is the 14th Amendment as their backup plan to prevent him from becoming president.
00:34:13.000Yeah, well, it's certainly an interesting angle.
00:34:21.000So it was an attempt to deal with insurrectionist generals and others involved with the South.
00:34:28.000You know, the idea that we would bring that up 173 years later, 1, you know, 165 years later, it's insane.
00:34:38.000But it goes to everything that you and I have been discussing, right?
00:34:42.000They realized once he announced, you know, giving a little bit of backstory on this, once Trump announced that he was going to run again in 2024, that's when I think almost all of these plans began to be cooked up.
00:34:53.000They knew that, yeah, that really the only way that they were going to be able to beat him, because they saw that their own candidate, Biden, was extremely weak and still remains weak.
00:35:03.000And even, you know, there's so many parallel angles.
00:35:05.000Like perhaps, you know, Democrats might be angling to get Biden out and Camela out and get Gavin Newsom in.
00:35:21.000Let's look at any opportunity we can to sort of gum up the process and bring that and destroy this guy.
00:35:28.000So you talked in the previous segment about Trump on his way to potentially, you know, giving testimony or filing a deposition in one of his cases in Georgia and stopping off to do a rally and how surreal this is going to become.
00:35:41.000And you said something that I think really hit the mark, which is, I think that's their strategy.
00:35:46.000That if they can just, if they need, if the evening news from, let's say, May of next year all the way through October, if every night it's just going to be coverage of Trump in a separate courtroom, you know, they'll be making a big deal out of the stuff you just said.
00:36:03.000Like Trump, you know, he was in Manhattan yesterday in the Alvin Bragg case and he's due in Georgia tomorrow for the Fannie Willis case.
00:36:10.000So I think that's their plan is to, you know, and, you know, I realize I spit out a lot of ideas here, and I don't want to talk too fast for people, but ultimately, as you and I have talked about, it's about the independence, right?
00:36:24.000We're coming out to vote and we're going to crawl across grass to do it.
00:36:28.000The Democrats, obviously, are going to come out to try to stop him.
00:36:31.000So all of this is the battle for that 20% of independence in the center.
00:36:36.000And so that's why this media strategy, they hope, will work because they're going to try to, you know, because they are not going to knock off the MAGA base.
00:36:46.000We're both well aware that Trump will not be defeated by his own base.
00:36:50.000So their only chance is with independence.
00:36:53.000So the 14th Amendment, let's get back to your point.
00:36:56.000So the 14th Amendment, I would not put it past them, but I think they will lose.
00:37:02.000If they try to bring Trump on 14th Amendment charges or prevent him from running on 14th Amendment charges, I think the Supreme Court would not qualify this as an act of insurrection against the government after having given an oath.
00:37:28.000There is a big worry that Trump can win this thing again.
00:37:31.000Remember, all this is for like 44,000 votes that were the difference in Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin.
00:37:39.000And so this is all, this is on the margins of the margins and the margins.
00:37:44.000And Kane, we're out of time, but I currently don't see the investments that are necessary outside of what Turning Point Action is doing in Wisconsin, Arizona, and Georgia.