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00:02:54.000We have an amazing guest tonight to talk all about worldview.
00:02:58.000And it's more important than ever as we see what's happening at Columbia, Yale, UCLA, even Arizona State, which by the way, ASU didn't put up with any of that nonsense.
00:03:07.000They cleared that out quickly as it should be to talk about worldview.
00:03:12.000It's one of the most important questions, which is, how do you see the world?
00:03:16.000Do you see it through a Marxist lens, a secular lens?
00:03:19.000Do you see it through a nihilistic lens, a narcissistic lens?
00:03:28.000He has been known for multiple decades as the premier pollster, let's just say sociologist who does surveys and analyzes data to find out what does the church believe?
00:04:00.000You know that as the Barna survey or the Barna, let's just say polls.
00:04:05.000For years, he has been trying to warn people that even though there might be more and more churches popping up in this country, are we creating disciples of all nations or are we just creating converts of all nations that then go away?
00:04:22.000And while we were talking, I said, I don't have much to add.
00:04:25.000So before I introduce him, though, I want to make sure one quick announcement, which is for those of you that might be who here moved recently to this state in the last couple years.
00:04:37.000We have to make sure that all of you are registered to vote, okay?
00:04:42.000So if you are not yet registered to vote, we will share how to do that through an online resource.
00:04:47.000And Mr. Barna will share the numbers that half of evangelical Christians are even registered to vote, and only half of those actually end up voting.
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00:04:58.000We'll share for a way that happens online.
00:05:00.000And coming into this fall, Turning Point Action will help lead this.
00:05:04.000We're going to be doing some really big Freedom Night events with some big speakers, Angel.
00:05:11.000And here is going to be the requirement.
00:05:13.000We're going to make sure we have 100%, 100% of everyone who attends Freedom Night is voting.
00:05:20.000And then you're not even allowed into the event in October if you have not voted early or if you not have a pinky promise plan to vote on November.
00:05:28.000So we're going to make sure we have 100% voter turnout because we need Christians to vote.
00:05:33.000So we just want to make sure you are registered.
00:06:04.000And by the way, Mr. Barna is a professor at Arizona Christian University, which is a wonderful school here locally that we should really talk more about.
00:06:43.000So why don't you introduce your body of work?
00:06:46.000You've been doing this for quite a while.
00:06:47.000You also have a new book that I want to make sure we all support, Raising Spiritual Champions, Nurturing Your Child's Heart, Mind, and Soul.
00:06:55.000But just kind of break down for our audience what you've been doing the last couple of decades, what you've learned, and then we'll get into some of the details.
00:07:02.000Okay, so about 40 years ago when I started doing all of this, there was really no research being done to help churches understand what was going on spiritually in America.
00:07:12.000So back in the early 80s, we started the Barnum Research Group, started doing all that kind of work, and trying to work with pastors, parachurch ministries to get a grip on reality.
00:07:28.000They didn't like what they were hearing because they thought they were doing a great job, and we had the data showing they weren't doing a great job.
00:07:35.000And so then we kind of shifted our focus to what would it take for them to do a great job.
00:07:41.000And that's really what I've been focusing on for the last 35 years or so.
00:07:46.000And so over the course of that, this is my 60th book.
00:07:50.000When I do all this research, I try to put it in digestible formats so that people can get their hands on it and read it and think about it and then act upon it.
00:08:00.000There's no value to having information for its own sake.
00:08:04.000You've got to have data that will help tell a story about what's going on in society and what you as an individual can do to change it, to bring people closer to Christ.
00:08:34.000So this gets a little bit messy because of definitions, but people who call themselves Christians among adults in America, that's 66%.
00:08:44.000If we look at how many people in America will say, I'm a Christian, though, because I know when I die, I'll go to heaven because I confess my sins, accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior.
00:08:56.000That's my only way of having a place in heaven.
00:09:00.000That drops it from 66% down to 33 to 34%.
00:09:06.000Which, by the way, we've got more people than the 66% who actually attend churches.
00:09:12.000So when you look at the proportion who regularly attend churches, roughly 7 out of 10, and then you look at the proportion who meet that last criteria, they're going to heaven because they confess their sins, accepted Christ as their Savior.
00:09:25.000We'll call those people born-again Christian.
00:09:28.000That means that most of the people in our churches are not born again.
00:09:41.000You've got tens of millions of non-Christians regularly walking into our churches.
00:09:47.000The sad thing is our research shows that most of those people have been walking in and out of our churches consistently for at least 10 years.
00:09:56.000So whatever we're doing in church, it's not bringing them closer to Christ.
00:10:00.000In most cases, obviously there are great churches across the country that are doing phenomenal work.
00:10:05.000But I'm a sociologist, as Charlie mentioned.
00:11:44.000And then in Luke 14, 33, he said, and you cannot be my disciple unless you surrender everything for me.
00:11:53.000So if you look at those six criteria, as I've done in the research, what we find is only 3% of adults in America qualify by Jesus standards as disciples.
00:12:07.000So not to be cruel, but do a lot of people who then think they're going to heaven probably won't go to heaven?
00:12:40.000Don't just get the eternal life insurance.
00:12:43.000Actually convert it into a lifestyle where you are concerned about the lives of others.
00:12:49.000You love God so much that you will do whatever you can to bring other people to the foot of the cross and have their lives completely transformed by Jesus.
00:12:59.000And that will not happen, by the way, unless you are a disciple.
00:13:49.000But by all objective measurements, let's just say tons of churches, buildings, no real Christian persecution as they know in the Middle East, such as almost every president has called himself a Christian.
00:14:05.000Almost every lawmaker, 90% probably in the 20th century called themselves a Christian.
00:14:12.000Founding fathers were Christian, and we have more buildings than ever before.
00:14:16.000There are tens of billions of dollars raised for American Christianity every single year.
00:14:23.000If you're painting then this grim picture where 66% of people say they're Christian, where we have more Christian music than ever before, we have more buildings and more infrastructure and more pastors and more social media followers.
00:15:07.000And what we found is that the typical church leader, typical pastor, measures five things.
00:15:13.000How many people show up, how much money they raise, how many programs they have, how many staff people they've hired, and how much square footage they've built out.
00:15:21.000Now, I'm a measurement guy, so I'm thrilled that churches are measuring what's going on.
00:15:26.000But as a measurement guy, I know that if you measure the wrong stuff, you'll get the wrong outcomes.
00:16:10.000And so the counter argument that one would say is, well, we measure how many people raise their hand and give their life to Christ at Easter.
00:16:18.000Yeah, and my counter argument is, so what?
00:16:21.000You know, I mean, it's nice that people come and they do something like that, but we find that more often than not, that's a show of emotion.
00:16:48.000And so that's not a problem, but that's not the solution.
00:16:53.000Coming into a church building for a church event isn't the solution.
00:16:58.000Giving your heart to Jesus is the solution.
00:17:02.000And what that means is following those six standards that Jesus talked about of, you know, consistently obeying his principles, of loving other disciples, you know, not just smiling at them, but, you know, love is a much deeper commitment than that.
00:17:21.000Producing a lot of spiritual fruit, not just coming and taking, but going back out into the world, whether it's on the church campus, out in the community, doing whatever you can with the gifts and the abilities and resources that God has entrusted to you, you're supposed to use those to build his kingdom.
00:17:46.000And so you need to understand what that is and dig in and go for it.
00:17:52.000What percentage of young people, teenagers, have a biblical worldview?
00:17:57.000We did this study last year in writing this book, Raising Spiritual Champions.
00:18:01.000We did research with teenagers and with pre-teenagers, and we were measuring their worldview.
00:18:08.000And right now, only about 1% of America's teenagers, it's between 1% and 2%, but a little closer to 1% of America's teenagers have a biblical worldview.
00:19:30.000You also have tons of, you have so much data that you can then use crosstabs on over so you know you're accurate.
00:19:38.000To see trend lines is what I'm getting at.
00:19:40.000And I hope you understand that when you do something for multiple decades in sociology, you start to see trend lines.
00:19:47.000For example, if one year he says 1% of teenagers have a biblical worldview, and the next year it's 11%, well, then something's off, right?
00:19:54.000So, can you speak to that eventually too?
00:19:56.000Because I'm sure there's some critics of your data.
00:19:58.000I think his data is spot on, because when you do it over a long period of time, you realize that you can't fake the trends because you're surveying different people and therefore you're getting this almost the same result.
00:20:07.000But can you talk about what is the criteria of how you measure a biblical worldview?
00:20:12.000We have about 40 different questions that we utilize to look at different aspects of a person's personal beliefs, but also their behavior.
00:20:22.000Because again, you do what you believe.
00:20:24.000Now, a lot of people have beliefs that may be in harmony with the scriptures, but they don't live them out.
00:20:32.000Which says to me, well, then they don't really believe that.
00:20:35.000Because if they did, they'd act on it.
00:20:38.000You only act on the things that you think are real and right and proper and appropriate.
00:20:44.000And so that's why we have those checks and balances built into this, both beliefs and behavior.
00:20:50.000And there are eight different categories that we measure of beliefs and behavior: Bible, truth, and morals, the character and nature of God, sin, salvation, and eternity.
00:21:01.000I mean, all these different things that we look at in terms of what is the nature of your belief structure.
00:21:07.000So that's what we've been measuring over time.
00:21:11.000I mean, when we study the numbers after a survey is done, we compare it to what came before to make sure that not only did we get a good sample, a representative sample, but that we can see what's going on over the course of time.
00:21:26.000Each of these surveys is kind of like a photograph.
00:21:30.000But if you think about your family, think about your children, if you have children, grown children in particular.
00:21:36.000If you look at the photographs of them over the course of time, it tells a story.
00:21:42.000You can see how they've changed over time.
00:21:44.000And our surveys are exactly like that.
00:21:46.000We can see what's happening over time.
00:22:46.000So it's imperative that you be measuring the same things over the course of time so that you've got an apples-to-apples comparison, that you've got a good sampling of the public, and then you can really tell the story.
00:22:59.000So, Lynn, let's look at the photograph just in the last couple of years.
00:23:02.000What does the succession of photographs, to use that metaphor, look post-COVID?
00:23:08.000Have we become more serious about our faith?
00:23:10.000How does the church look differently with that succession of photographs in just the last four years?
00:23:17.000I think one of the most harmful things about the lockdowns was that most Americans spent an enormous amount of time paying attention to media, arts and entertainment media, and information and news media.
00:23:36.000all the research that I've been doing for the last 20 years on what influences the way that we think and the way that we live indicates that the arts and entertainment media have a majority of the impact on what we choose as our beliefs and our lifestyle.
00:23:54.000And the problem with that is that as you study the messages that are being sent through those media, what we find is that there's no consistency.
00:24:03.000I'm not a big conspiracy guy in terms of, oh, there's a media conspiracy to destroy the worldview of Americans.
00:24:11.000But I'm praying for him, so it's okay.
00:24:14.000There's definitely a conspiracy to destroy the country.
00:24:28.000But in the media, I mean, their lust is power and money.
00:24:33.000Okay, and so they'll create anything that gets an audience because it gives them power and money.
00:24:41.000But what does not give them an audience?
00:24:43.000Well, in their minds, glorifying God, raising up the Savior, you know, promoting biblical truth.
00:24:51.000They don't think any of that would sell.
00:24:54.000And so instead, what we're getting are the ideas that they feel comfortable with, which is Marxism, secular humanism, postmodernism, Eastern mysticism, nihilism, Wicca, Satanism.
00:25:34.000What we found is since COVID, there's been a significant decrease in people's church attendance, a significant decrease in people's Bible reading, a significant decrease in people's praying, a significant decrease in the proportion of Americans who say that they will take time during the week to praise and worship and thank God.
00:25:56.000A significant decrease in the proportion of Americans who would say that they spend time intentionally seeking to know God's will for their life.
00:26:06.000Well, when you have that kind of a trend line in all of those critical dimensions, I mean, you can't help but conclude we're definitely on the wrong path.
00:26:17.000So let's kind of get into the part of, was there ever a time in your research where you saw a change of trend for the better, whether it be a short period of time?
00:31:45.000So parents, number one, have to recognize that the Bible teaches the single most important thing that you will do in your life is love Jesus Christ with all your heart, mind, strength, and soul.
00:31:56.000The second most important thing that you will do is raise your children to do the same thing.
00:32:03.000And then the third thing that you can do is bring that to other people.
00:32:06.000But we've forgotten all about that mandate to raise our children to be disciples of Jesus.
00:32:22.000Here's the dirty secret about what's going on in children's ministry in churches.
00:32:27.000Only 12%, one out of every eight children's pastors in America, has a biblical worldview.
00:32:36.000So what that means is in seven out of eight cases, we're doing more spiritual damage to children by bringing them to church than by keeping them at home.
00:32:47.000It also says that if you're a parent and you want the church to help you, because the church does, local church, does have a role in this.
00:32:54.000And by the way, there are some great children's ministries in America, you know, about one out of eight, but, you know, there are some great ones.
00:33:52.000I mean, if they can't take a parent interviewing them about what do you think you're going to do with my child, if they won't tell you that, looking you in the eyes, walk out of that place because it's dangerous.
00:34:07.000If you like what you're hearing from the pastor, then ask to see the curriculum that they're using.
00:34:13.000Because there's a lot of awful curriculum in churches across the country that's non-biblical.
00:34:51.000Go out in the backyard with them after church.
00:34:54.000Okay, but when they're there, make sure they're getting a heavy dose of Jesus.
00:34:59.000Now, the other thing to keep in mind is that the only reason that a children's ministry exists is to support parents in raising the children.
00:35:12.000It's to help you do the job, which means they better be willing to communicate with you throughout the week because you're the one responsible.
00:35:51.000What gives me hope is scripture, okay?
00:35:53.000Because I read that, and what I see is that God often changed entire cultures, entire cities, entire city-states, you know, depending on the polity of the age.
00:36:07.000But what we found is that God never waits until he has majority to completely revolutionize a community.
00:37:05.000This may be one of the few times that you'll ever hear me say it's not about numbers, okay?
00:37:12.000But the key is we've got 3% of adults in America who are genuine disciples of Jesus.
00:37:21.000We can turn this country upside down with that 3%.
00:37:24.000If that 3%, if that 3% is willing to get out of the armchair and go out into the world and be Jesus to a hurting, suffering, confused, distracted world, we are the solution to their problem because we have Jesus living within us.
00:37:45.000We have the Holy Spirit empowering us.
00:39:54.000We see the number of people who say they don't want to get married increasing.
00:39:59.000We have a majority of people in America now who believe that sex without marriage is morally acceptable.
00:40:06.000We have a growing proportion of people who say they never want to have children.
00:40:11.000And so you put that all together along with almost seven out of ten who say that, you know, people of the same gender marrying each other is legitimate marriage.
00:40:24.000You know, so yeah, I mean, we've got a real mess on our hands with that.
00:41:53.000That's why they want open borders, because they'll say, we're going to allow the third worlders to have kids for you, because we don't want to have kids.
00:42:02.000Secondly, I would say the vast majority of young Christians that I talk to do not believe that premarital sex is wrong.
00:42:11.000The vast majority of churches we work with do not even teach against premarital sex.
00:42:16.000And the majority of Christian schools here in Scottsdale, I had a mom come up to me about a local Catholic school, and she says all the girls by age 16 or 17 except the couple have all lost their virginity, basically.
00:42:29.000So it is standard operating procedure if they're not lesbian or gay or whatever, which by the way is one out of three kids in most urban areas are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender.
00:42:39.00045% of kids at Brown University are gay.
00:42:42.000And so, yeah, I mean, this is not uplifting, but it is true.
00:42:47.000And then, yeah, I mean, marriages can, so young men increasingly don't want to get married because they could just watch artificial intelligence pornography.
00:42:54.000You know, talking to a woman is just too much work.
00:42:58.000And we've calculated, not we, but the, I'm sure your data is better than all of it, but it's about five to six men, five to six million men that have just disappeared.
00:43:23.000I was involved in a campus Bible study for a lot of years, and they preached a message pretty similar to what you're preaching here tonight.
00:43:31.000They would always specifically highlight Matthew 16, 24 and Mark 8, 34.
00:43:39.000Deny yourself, pick up your cross, and follow me.
00:43:44.000I like to think of it as the start of every day.
00:43:47.000You know, you're praying in the morning.
00:43:49.000That's kind of your humbling and self-denial.
00:43:52.000And then you get going into the world and you pick up your cross, you start your day, you go out into the world, and you follow and you share.
00:43:59.000I'm just wondering to you, of those three things, deny yourself, pick up your cross, and follow me, is there a level of importance to those things in the way that Jesus said them?
00:44:10.000And another question, just when did you realize that there was kind of a fake version of Christianity 40 or so years ago?
00:45:05.000We were talking about, say, Sunday school being games, not really getting down to business.
00:45:13.000Are some of the Bible versions watered down too much to be effective, or is that all the Holy Spirit?
00:45:20.000Second question, my husband and I are frustrated by our Democrat Christian friends who seem to be okay with, oh, there are gay people and abortion, you know, the poor girl, that stuff.
00:46:08.000Now that does not mean that if you vote Republican, you're a Christian or you get points in heaven.
00:46:15.000But I do not believe that you can call yourself a Christian with a worldview that is rooted in Scripture and vote for a party that mutilates children, that there's a million abortions every single year, is eradicating our southern border, and has on Easter Sunday, they call it Transgender Visibility Day and not a proclamation of the Lord's Day.
00:46:42.000So I don't know if that will be awfully persuasive for your friends, but they might call themselves Christians and it's probably futile to dive into it.
00:46:50.000And this is, again, we're just going based on this entire conversation of are you actually a Christian?
00:46:56.000If you call yourself a Christian, by the fruit you will know them.
00:47:00.000And based on what scripture says, I do not believe those two things can harmonize.
00:47:03.000So what can we do to respond to those people?
00:47:06.000Well, at first, let me just kind of go through the ones you mentioned.
00:47:08.000First, they say, well, there are gay people.
00:47:10.000Well, yeah, there are adulterers, and there are gamblers, and there are fornicators.
00:47:15.000We don't doubt that there are people that struggle with sin.
00:47:19.000The question is, do you create a new civil rights category for every sin?
00:47:24.000Oh, you know, we have an entire month of July just for adulterers.
00:47:31.000We have the month of August just for embezzlers.
00:47:37.000And the month of September is for all the people that covet.
00:47:41.000And we're going to have pride for that.
00:47:43.000So we recognize that they exist, obviously, and we have love for those people.
00:47:47.000The question is, is that your identity?
00:47:50.000There are only two identities that matter to the divine, saved or unsaved.
00:47:55.000Those are the only two identities that matter.
00:47:59.000And if you play into this idea that your identity is in your sexual behavior, well, then you're falling short of the glory of God.
00:48:07.000Secondly, on the abortion thing, they say, oh, you know, poor woman or whatever.
00:48:13.000Okay, well, 50% chance that it's a woman in the woman.
00:48:17.000So poor woman that you're terminating, that you're throwing into a trash can.
00:48:21.000Number two, which is, wait a second, poor woman, where's the sympathy for the being that isn't there?
00:48:28.000And how did she get pregnant in the first place?
00:48:32.000Again, less than 1% of all abortions are by rape and incest.
00:48:36.000She made a decision to engage in the act of having a child, right?
00:48:42.000Which there's kids here, so I'll be a little bit, you know, cryptic, vague.
00:48:47.000And you have made that decision, and we're now supposed to allow you to intervene and terminate another sovereign life made in the image of the divine so that you can go have orgasms without a consequence.
00:49:01.000Like, if it's your body, your choice, then take responsibility for your pleasure.
00:49:39.000I'm paraphrasing, but there's a Bible translation out there where they say, Jesus went with his friends to go plan a picnic, and they ran out of food.
00:49:48.000And next thing you know, Jesus made some magic happen and the 5,000 had food.
00:50:05.000Not because I believe I know the Koigne Greek better than others, but almost every major revival that we have used the New King James Version.
00:50:15.000There's something about that translation that speaks to the heart, that gets people to repent and leads to revival.
00:50:47.000So, you know, when you choose a Bible, I mean, there are guides that will help you figure out how accurate they are to the original texts that were in the Greek or the Aramaic or Hebrew or whatever the fragments were that we found archaeologically.
00:51:05.000And so if I were you, I mean, that's what we do, is we look at, okay, how accurate are these according to the original manuscripts?
00:51:42.000So her question is: what percentage of churches will engage in what you would call false teaching?
00:51:51.000It's a difficult question for one reason for me.
00:51:56.000And that's because it's not black and white.
00:52:00.000What I find is that churches that engage in errant biblical teaching also sometimes provide biblical teaching.
00:52:11.000And that's what makes it even more insidious, is that I can go and for four weeks I can hear biblical messages and then week five.
00:52:21.000My pastor might be off the wall scripturally, but he's kind of built up my trust level, which is one of the great reasons why I shouldn't be relying on the teaching of somebody else when it comes to scripture.
00:52:40.000I need to know it well enough that what that person in the pulpit is doing is reminding me or challenging me, but not informing me.
00:52:52.000I should know it well enough that I can tell when they're wrong.
00:53:02.000In this society that has a what I like to call a feed me mentality, feed me your truth, feed me your opinion, feed me your absolutes, what can we do to say, skillfully say, hey, here's the knife and the fork.
00:53:19.000You need to cut the meat and see what's wrong, see what's wrong with it.
00:53:23.000In other words, how do we give a relevant absolute truth in a world that says absolute truth is not necessary, nor does it exist?
00:53:32.000Well, one of the things that we've been studying for the last couple years, I'll have a book on it coming out next year about discipling people.
00:53:39.000And that's basically what you're saying.
00:53:41.000How do you disciple somebody who doesn't accept truth?
00:53:58.000That's the way that Jesus discipled people.
00:54:01.000You know, that's how disciples were made in the early church.
00:54:03.000So it's all about developing a relationship where the person trusts you and where you have the opportunity to share time and experiences with them.
00:54:15.000And then the key is what I refer to as Socratic dialogue.
00:54:22.000The way that Socrates taught his students, he didn't come in and download information to them.
00:54:28.000He came in and he asked them questions.
00:54:42.000He let the person come to that conclusion simply by asking them questions.
00:54:48.000And what happens so often, particularly spiritually, because there is truth, we know truth when we encounter it.
00:54:56.000Now, we may choose to reject it, but God's truth is God's truth.
00:55:00.000It doesn't change, and it's not going away.
00:55:02.000So when we have these Socratic dialogues with people, if somebody wants to become a disciple or you want them to become a disciple and they're not sure and they're on the fence, just by having these kinds of conversations with them where you get to ask them, really, you believe abortion is acceptable?
00:55:21.000And then going through, taking what they say and just asking more questions and going deeper and deeper and deeper, more times than not, what you discover is that that individual hears their own answers and actually comes to the conclusion, wow, I'm going to keep on this train because I don't want to embarrass myself.
00:55:41.000But when I leave here, I realize how stupid my point of view is.
00:55:47.000And then they start rethinking some things.
00:55:49.000Now, they're not going to turn like that necessarily, but you've started the train moving in a different direction.
00:55:56.000And that's why that relationship is so critical, because you keep sharing experiences and conversations and ideas with them.
00:56:05.000And eventually you get to lead them to truth without having to beat them over the head with the Bible or tell them that they're idiots for not buying it outright at first.
00:57:49.000Of those that do graduate, only half will end up getting a job that requires a college degree.
00:57:54.000So the whole four years are for nothing.
00:57:57.000Outside of that, you have to navigate all the rubbish that they have to learn unless they go to ACU, all the nonsense, all the polluted worldviews, turning them into nihilistic activists.
00:58:07.000And even beyond that, let's ask the question, are we developing kids of good character and of wisdom?
00:58:13.000Are we just creating a bunch of highly credentialed, entitled 22-year-olds to go around and act as if the whole world is theirs because they have a piece of paper after they got a degree in North African lesbian poetry?
00:58:32.000There are 11 million job openings that pay over $75,000 a year in this country that do not require a college degree and require six to eight weeks of technical training.
00:58:46.000This is according to the Department of Labor, the Bureau of Label Statistics, and three independent studies.
00:58:52.000There are 11 million job openings that pay more than $75,000 a year that do not require a college degree, That takes six to eight weeks of technical job training.
00:59:07.000Because upper middle class parents in the country look down on the working class.
00:59:12.000And they want their kids to be in the laptop Zoom class, not in the muscular class.
00:59:18.000They say, God forbid that my kid will have to shower before work and after work.
00:59:23.000He's going to go stay crunched in the corner at a data center in Tempe.
00:59:28.000making sure he doesn't mispronoun his colleagues earning $68,000 a year with a degree in computer science with $60,000 of debt from ASU because college is wonderful.
00:59:39.000At what point are we going to wake up and realize this is a racketeering operation that is impoverishing a generation?
00:59:47.000So anyway, I love the question, Denise.
01:01:12.000And it is without a doubt the most powerful and successful and most censored Old Testament verse in serious Jewish circles.
01:01:21.000Now, you thought that some Jews don't like Jesus because in the Talmud, there are some very, very nasty teachings about Jesus, right?
01:01:29.000That he's in hell with a bunch of feces, right?
01:01:32.000And not every Jew believes that, but it is in the Talmud, which in some circles would be considered to be the Jewish New Testament.
01:01:38.000But here's the cool thing, is that a Jewish woman, as you say, who's ready to open her heart to Jesus is one of the most important things because Paul said we must bless the Jews, right?
01:01:49.000To bring a Jew to Jesus, I think, is one of the most incredible things that anybody can do.
01:02:57.000You're 10 years old, and you have leaders that hate you that are using your credit card without your consent to impoverish you and destroy your dollar, your purchasing power, and your future.
01:03:07.000But despite that, though, you and me, because we're going to be in this for a while, I'm 20 years older than you.
01:03:12.000We're not going to use that as a reason to be negative or to overly point fingers.
01:03:18.000We're going to overcome all of it and we're going to build a better future.
01:03:21.000And I believe that's going to start in November, to be honest with you.
01:04:22.000Yeah, what's your advice for Gen Alpha?
01:04:24.000Well, first of all, to you, and I mean this non-sarcastically.
01:04:28.000So at Turning Point Action, we're going to be knocking on hundreds of thousands of doors here in Arizona because we want to see Arizona become red, obviously.
01:04:36.000And I deal with people all the time that are apathetic, and they're like, what's the point?
01:04:39.000I'd love to have them talk to a 12-year-old that cares more about the country than a 65-year-old.
01:04:44.000I mean, I think that every person that says it doesn't matter, I'm not going to vote, you know, the election is stolen as if, okay, you're a real tough guy for not voting because the election's stolen.
01:04:55.000Like, go look a Generation Alpha kid in the eyes and tell him that.
01:04:59.000Tell him that his life doesn't matter and that his advocacy is irrelevant.
01:05:03.000And so what you can do is that I think you are both super articulate.
01:05:07.000You need to go talk to as many people that can vote as possible and remind them you're actually the reason why they should vote is to believe a free society in a strong country for you.
01:05:20.000And I'll close with this and then I want Mr. Barna to close this out here with some thoughts, which is that far too often we realize the stakes of the game are higher than they should be.
01:05:36.000Have you ever seen a chance where a 10 or 12 year old feels convicted to create a podcast?
01:05:42.000Because at some fundamental level, they realize that things are falling apart and collapsing, that at 10 or 12 years old, they're effectively taking up arms in this culture war to fight for their country.
01:05:52.000That should motivate you, but also it should disturb you.
01:05:55.000Like, no offense, you guys shouldn't be that interested.
01:05:58.000Like, this country should be a lot more organized than it should, that you could be worried about like regular 10 or 12-year-old things.
01:06:04.000But you know, it's not because you two have more responsibility than most of your elders do.
01:06:54.000One of the things I do is I study movements.
01:06:56.000And I can tell you that there are movements that have radically changed today's America that have had 1% of the population behind their ideology.
01:07:09.000Okay, 1% of the population has now completely twisted the minds of the rest of the population because they had a vision, they had passion, they had commitment, and they never gave up.
01:07:26.000The Christian church in America gave up long ago.
01:07:30.000And so we've got to restore that sense of calling that God has given to us, that understanding of who Jesus is and what a magnificent privilege it is that we have to know him, to love him, and to serve him.
01:07:47.000We can't just sit back and watch other people steal that away from us.
01:07:53.000We can't allow them to tell us, no, we can't have God in this country.
01:08:00.000And so we have the privilege of serving him.
01:08:03.000I'm praying that everybody who's here tonight is going to go back and think about what priority is it in your life to be part of a movement of people who pledge to restore America to the heart of God.
01:08:20.000That's what the church, capital C, is meant to be.
01:08:24.000Don't get all wound up in church small C.