The Charlie Kirk Show - Who Really Killed JFK? ft. Roger Stone

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, who killed JFK?

00:00:03.000 The entire episode examining what happened to John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

00:00:08.000 What is in the new JFK files?

00:00:09.000 We go through that too with Roger Stone.

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00:01:54.000 So we were waiting, we were waiting, we were waiting, we were waiting for the JFK files.

00:01:58.000 80,000 of them.

00:02:00.000 And no, I did not read all 80,000 of them.

00:02:03.000 But our next guest already knows all of them by heart and can tell you what's really going on here.

00:02:10.000 For the full hour, we have the legendary Roger Stone.

00:02:12.000 And we're going to take our time here and go through what have we learned from the files, what do we know, and the truth about who killed John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

00:02:22.000 With us is Roger Stone.

00:02:23.000 Roger, welcome to the program.

00:02:25.000 Charlie, it's great to be with you.

00:02:27.000 Before we start, once again, I want to commend you and Turning Point USA for the crucial role you played in the greatest comeback in American political history, the smashing victory of President Donald Trump.

00:02:41.000 Well, thank you, Roger.

00:02:42.000 It was a team effort, and thank you for never leaving the president's side and for fighting, fighting, fighting all the way through.

00:02:50.000 So, Roger, let's start with the most immediate news, and then we can kind of go back in time.

00:02:57.000 I think the one thing we learned is that the Central Intelligence Agency has dissembled in the past about their knowledge of Lee Harvey Oswald, at least his existence.

00:03:11.000 We've learned that they knew he was not a good shot.

00:03:15.000 I don't believe that he is.

00:03:17.000 The shooter from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository building.

00:03:22.000 But again, these documents have been in government hands for 62 plus years.

00:03:31.000 In other words, plenty of time to sanitize them.

00:03:34.000 A number of congressmen, like Tim Burschett from Tennessee, suggested early on that the president broaden his disclosure order to include every agency, not narrow it to the...

00:03:50.000 Kennedy assassination documents archive that is controlled by the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:03:56.000 So we don't know if what we have seen is complete, but what we do know is what we've seen so far is inconclusive, other than to say it does confirm that the Central Intelligence Agency had far earlier knowledge of Oswald and the documents we've seen so far.

00:04:18.000 Tend to seek to reinforce what I still believe is a false narrative that Oswald shot Kennedy.

00:04:27.000 If Lee Harvey Oswald shot John Kennedy and he used a $26 World War II vintage Italian Army carbine, why does he have no powder burns on his chest or his arms or his hands, according to the test by the Dallas Police Department?

00:04:46.000 So, let's just stay focused on the, and by the way, I sympathize with you 100%.

00:04:50.000 I've always subscribed that this hot Oswald thing is nonsense.

00:04:53.000 I think they were more than one shooter, but I want to get into that eventually.

00:04:56.000 But just on the files, has, and I know this is a silly question, has anyone actually gone through all of them as of our conversation now, Roger?

00:05:04.000 I mean, it's so much.

00:05:06.000 It's so expansive.

00:05:07.000 Has someone now finally thoroughly read all of them?

00:05:11.000 Other than to say that you can find a grok analysis of it, I think the answer is no.

00:05:19.000 Also, the search capability is limited.

00:05:23.000 So, in other words, if you search by certain terms, it won't work.

00:05:28.000 I don't know a single person who has read all 80,000 documents.

00:05:33.000 In fact, all 80,000 documents haven't even yet been uploaded.

00:05:39.000 It was interesting.

00:05:40.000 That late in the day, the day of disclosure, the day these were released, there were reports that the Department of Justice was going to delay the release based on purposes of national security.

00:05:58.000 And then I was glad to see that Tulsi Gabbard, keeping the president's promise, announced when the documents could be seen both online.

00:06:10.000 And you can go to the National Archives and see them in person.

00:06:13.000 You've got to make an appointment, I believe, but for any American to see.

00:06:17.000 So the president has kept his promise, but what we don't know is whether what is going to be released, ultimately, all 80,000, is in fact complete.

00:06:29.000 I don't think any conclusion can be drawn based on what we have seen, other than the agency's knowledge regarding...

00:06:39.000 Oswald starts far earlier than they say.

00:06:43.000 Remember, Charlie, that the law mandating the release of these documents was passed in 1994.

00:06:51.000 The date set was 2017.

00:06:54.000 At that time, President Trump released about 80% of the documents.

00:07:00.000 And we learned of some amazing things there.

00:07:03.000 For example...

00:07:04.000 We had the 1099 from the IRS to Lee Harvey Oswald for his time working for the FBI as an informant.

00:07:12.000 For example, we had a memo from J. Edgar Hoover, then the head of the FBI, to President Lyndon Johnson saying that the KGB, the Russian intelligence agency, had conducted their own independent investigation into Kennedy's assassination.

00:07:31.000 And they had concluded, as I did in my 2013 book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, that Johnson was complicit in Kennedy's assassination.

00:07:42.000 So President Trump already released a number of really compelling and interesting documents way back in 2017.

00:07:50.000 He did release all of them that time because Mike Pompeo, the CIA director, asked that 20% of the documents...

00:07:59.000 Those are the documents that we are seeing now and which we will see more of shortly.

00:08:04.000 So just so our audience understands, that they're still all being uploaded in real time.

00:08:09.000 Is that correct, that this is a process?

00:08:11.000 That is correct.

00:08:12.000 So all 80,000 are not out there.

00:08:15.000 Therefore, it's impossible to make a total judgment.

00:08:20.000 There's a number of questions, and I've been posting them, that just remain...

00:08:25.000 Unanswered. And it doesn't appear that we're going to get answers out of these documents.

00:08:32.000 So do you think that there will be any documents that will prove your hypothesis connecting it to LBJ?

00:08:41.000 And if so, what would that even look like?

00:08:45.000 No, because I think actually the documentation of that is already established.

00:08:50.000 For example.

00:08:52.000 On the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository building, we find the fingerprints of a man named Malcolm Mack Wallace.

00:09:01.000 They're on both the window encasement and they're on the cardboard boxes that form the crow's nest from which the shooter allegedly shot.

00:09:10.000 We know that they are Wallace's fingerprints because Wallace was arrested for first degree murder and tried and convicted in 1951.

00:09:21.000 He shot and killed a man named John D.

00:09:23.000 He was also an employee of the U.S. Agriculture Department in a patronage job arranged for him by...

00:09:35.000 Well, Senator Lyndon Johnson.

00:09:37.000 We also know that six people saw a man in the window of the Texas School Book Depository building who met the physical description of Wallace.

00:09:49.000 Middle-aged, heavy set, balding with glasses.

00:09:54.000 Six different witnesses see a man who meets that description, not the description of Lee Harvey Oswald.

00:10:02.000 And then, as you may know, just...

00:10:04.000 Weeks ago, Alex Jones released an audio tape that came from the grandson of Billy Sal Estes.

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00:10:18.000 There's Malcolm Wallace, who...

00:10:22.000 He was a crony of Johnson's, went to prison for corruption, but the grandson released an audio tape that is a conversation between Billy Solestus and Cliff Carter.

00:10:35.000 Cliff Carter was the chief political operative for Lyndon Johnson, executive director of the Democrat National Committee in the 60s, in which they openly discussed the fact that Johnson had hired Wallace to shoot...

00:10:52.000 President John Kennedy.

00:10:53.000 So it is my assertion that the Johnson portion of this is pretty well proven.

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00:12:05.000 As you know, Charlie, the motivation for me to write my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, which, by the way, nothing we've seen so far distracts from or contradicts my conclusion that the CIA is among those involved in the murder of Kennedy.

00:12:22.000 But I was working for former President Richard Nixon in his post-presidential years.

00:12:28.000 I've been brought in to work on his schedule and do occasional political chores for him.

00:12:34.000 He was, as you know, liked a good martini.

00:12:38.000 He was enormously prospective and not very retrospective.

00:12:43.000 In other words, it was very hard to get him to talk about the past, about his relationship and friendship with John Kennedy or Dwight Eisenhower or Nikita Khrushchev or any of the high points and low points of his career.

00:12:56.000 But after a couple of cocktails, he would open up a bit, and it was on one of those occasions that I said, Mr. President, can I ask you a question?

00:13:05.000 He said, sure.

00:13:06.000 I said, who really killed John Kennedy?

00:13:09.000 And he stared into his martini for a few minutes.

00:13:11.000 He looked up at me and he said, well, let me say this.

00:13:14.000 The Warren Commission was the biggest goddamn hoax in history.

00:13:19.000 I said, I'm sorry, sir.

00:13:20.000 I don't understand.

00:13:21.000 What are you saying?

00:13:21.000 He said, well, let me put it to you this way.

00:13:23.000 Lyndon and I both wanted to be president.

00:13:26.000 But I wasn't willing to kill for it.

00:13:28.000 And it was that that motivated me to go into five years of research to write my book, in which I concluded that Johnson, who as the Senate majority leader, took the very unusual step of appointing himself to the subcommittee of defense appropriations in the Senate, where the CIA's budget was secretly prepared, their black box budget.

00:13:52.000 So Johnson was the...

00:13:54.000 Paymaster for the CIA.

00:13:57.000 Johnson had also been receiving bribes from Carlos Marcelo, the gangster who ran gambling in Texas and Louisiana.

00:14:08.000 And interestingly enough, the man who passed those bribes to LBJ, Maine, named Jack Halford.

00:14:15.000 Got a presidential pardon two days after Lyndon Johnson became president.

00:14:20.000 He had been convicted on some unrelated charge.

00:14:23.000 Johnson also, obviously, was the water carrier for Big Texas Oil.

00:14:29.000 So I believe all of those entities had their own interests in the removal of John Kennedy.

00:14:37.000 In the case of the Central Intelligence Agency, which is the focus of most of these disclosures, There were two, really, two problems.

00:14:46.000 One, the Bay of Pigs, which was the invasion of Cuba by the United States that was designed to look like an indigenous Cuban uprising.

00:14:56.000 Now, the plan, which was born under Eisenhower in a working group headed by Vice President Richard Nixon, included air cover.

00:15:06.000 For the men storming the beaches that were supposed to be supplied by 29 Panamanian-flagged fighter jets piloted by Cuban pilots.

00:15:16.000 For reasons we do not know, the CIA canceled that the day before the invasion.

00:15:24.000 Consequently, the invasion was a fiasco.

00:15:27.000 The men storming the beaches in Cuba at the Bay of Pigs were cut to ribbons.

00:15:33.000 Curtis LeMay, the head of the U.S. Air Force, at that point the Joint Chiefs, went to JFK and said the only way to save the day here is to send in the U.S. Air Force.

00:15:44.000 Kennedy refused because that would have exposed that this was a U.S.-sponsored operation.

00:15:49.000 The CIA blamed Kennedy.

00:15:51.000 Kennedy blamed the CIA.

00:15:53.000 And then there's the Cuban Missile Crisis.

00:15:55.000 We've been told that Brave...

00:15:58.000 Jack and Bobby Kennedy face down Nikita Khrushchev, who withdrew the missiles that he had stationed in Cuba 90 miles off our shore.

00:16:09.000 But Charlie, that's not true.

00:16:10.000 Forty years later, when documents were declassified, we learned what the military knew in real time, which was we removed our NATO missiles from Italy and Turkey in return for an agreement with Khrushchev to remove the missiles from Cuba.

00:16:28.000 But that agreement had no on-site inspection.

00:16:31.000 So there was deep distrust between the CIA and President Kennedy, and therefore a motive.

00:16:38.000 We also know, and this can be quite well documented, that the intelligence services and the Secret Service had learned that John Kennedy had become addicted to methamphetamine.

00:16:50.000 He was seeing Dr. Max Jacobson of New York, who was known also as Dr. Feelgood.

00:16:57.000 Dr. Jacobson was attending many of the beautiful people of the day, Frank Sinatra, the opera singer Maria Calais, Pablo Casals, Leonard Bernstein, Nelson Rockefeller, and he was injecting them with what they were told was a proprietary blend of vitamins and enzymes that would lift their energy.

00:17:22.000 In fact, it was an early proprietary blend of methamphetamine.

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00:18:30.000 What I'm trying to do here, Charlie, is to demonstrate the motive of everyone who I believe is involved in Kennedy's assassination.

00:18:38.000 So to wrap that up, the Central Intelligence Agency is angry about what they think is the mishandling of the Bay of Pigs, the mishandling of the Cuban Missile Crisis, and their concern about...

00:18:51.000 John Kennedy being attended by Dr. Max Jacobson.

00:18:54.000 If you look at the manifest of those who traveled to Vienna for the summit conference with Khrushchev, you'll find Dr. Jacobson on that manifest.

00:19:04.000 And in fact, he writes extensively in his own book about injecting John F. Kennedy with this proprietary blend of methamphetamine prior...

00:19:15.000 To his meeting with Khrushchev.

00:19:18.000 So we've established the Central Intelligence Agency's motive, a lot of which I think is being confirmed in these documents.

00:19:25.000 And then, of course, there's Big Texas Oil.

00:19:27.000 Kennedy wants to repeal the oil depletion allowance.

00:19:32.000 There's just so many unanswered questions.

00:19:35.000 For example...

00:19:36.000 Malcolm Kilduff, the deputy press secretary for John Kennedy, the man who announces to the press that Kennedy is dead.

00:19:43.000 Historic recording.

00:19:45.000 He says in his memoirs that he's on the elevator with the new president, Lyndon Johnson, immediately after Johnson has assumed the presidency.

00:19:54.000 And he says to him, Mr. President, who would do something so horrible?

00:19:57.000 Who would kill our president?

00:19:59.000 And Johnson says, it was a communist, son.

00:20:02.000 He says, what kind of communist, Mr. President?

00:20:05.000 He said, it was a Russian communist, son.

00:20:08.000 There's only one problem.

00:20:09.000 Lee Harvey Oswald has not yet been apprehended.

00:20:13.000 Another point, the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover puts out a telex to all of the station chiefs in the United States saying that Lee Harvey Oswald, a Russian communist, has been apprehended.

00:20:27.000 But the Telex goes out before Oswald has actually been arrested in the theater in Dallas.

00:20:33.000 Another unanswered question.

00:20:36.000 So, Roger, just in the interest of time, I do have a question, though.

00:20:40.000 So, you were close to Richard Nixon.

00:20:43.000 If Richard Nixon believed this, which I'm not doubting your story, why didn't he then go public with it during Watergate or in his post-presidency?

00:20:52.000 Because it very well could have helped him while he became...

00:20:55.000 While he was being transitioned into political exile.

00:20:58.000 You know, our mutual friend Tucker Carlson, I think, actually illustrated this point.

00:21:05.000 Very recently, he played an audio tape that is a conversation between Richard Nixon and the CIA director, Richard Helms, in which he's beginning to pressure Helms for help from the CIA in the encroaching Watergate scandal.

00:21:25.000 And he confronts him and says, you know, a lot of dirty business went on over there at the agency.

00:21:30.000 A lot of things were covered up.

00:21:32.000 And Helms plays dumb and says, I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about, Mr. President.

00:21:36.000 And Nixon says it right out loud.

00:21:40.000 He says, let me put it this way.

00:21:42.000 I know who shot John.

00:21:44.000 So the answer to your question, Charlie, is I believe...

00:21:47.000 Based on that recording and also on an interview I did with General Alexander Haig, Nixon's last chief of staff, that Nixon leveraged his knowledge of Kennedy's assassination and the government's duplicity in it for the pardon.

00:22:03.000 And, as reported by the New York Times, Gerald Ford, later president, but at that time a member of the Warren Commission, at the direction of J. Edgar Hoover, the head of the FBI, Actually takes the autopsy diagram from Kennedy's doctor,

00:22:21.000 erases the markings that show a wound in Kennedy's upper back, and moves it to his lower neck, rear neck, to accommodate the so-called single-bullet theory.

00:22:34.000 When the New York Times asks President Ford, then a former president, why he did this, he said, well, the country needed closure.

00:22:43.000 He didn't say the country needed truth.

00:22:45.000 He said the country needed cloture.

00:22:48.000 So I believe Nixon actually leveraged this knowledge, leveraged this information.

00:22:54.000 General Haig told me Nixon had them by the short hairs and he told them, if I'm going down, I'm taking everyone with me.

00:23:01.000 So Roger, let's now go through the events on the day that JFK was shot.

00:23:07.000 What happened that day specifically that was suspicious, out of the ordinary?

00:23:11.000 And what in the cover-up?

00:23:13.000 Or the investigation made people believe that there was something here that was less than desirable?

00:23:21.000 Well, let's remember, Kennedy is supposed to be going from the airport to the merchandise mark outside of Dallas, neither one of which is in the city limits.

00:23:32.000 It is John Connolly, then governor of Texas, who insists that the motorcade route go through Dealey Plaza.

00:23:39.000 So why did they even go into the city to come back out of the city?

00:23:43.000 And Jerry Bruno, who is the chief advance man for John F. Kennedy, records in his book that he objected to the motorcade route because it would have required and did require the presidential limousine to come to a full stop, a stop sign, which of course is what made Kennedy a target.

00:24:03.000 Connolly insists that if they don't take the motorcade route as demanded by the governor of Texas, that the entire trip will be scheduled.

00:24:12.000 Secondarily, all of the buildings on both sides of Dealey Plaza are supposed to be searched, emptied, and sealed.

00:24:21.000 They aren't.

00:24:22.000 There's supposed to be multiple plainclothes Secret Service agents throughout the crowd.

00:24:29.000 There aren't.

00:24:30.000 There's supposed to be three motorcycle officers, each abreast of the presidential limousine on each side.

00:24:38.000 Not only are there not six motorcycle cops, there's one, and he's directed to ride behind the presidential limousine.

00:24:46.000 And then, of course, there is the question of Lyndon Johnson.

00:24:49.000 The vice presidential limousine is riding two car lengths behind the presidential limousine.

00:24:56.000 But if you look at newsreel footage and still camera footage, what you see in the succession of photos is Ralph Yarborough.

00:25:06.000 The senator from Texas, archenemy of Lyndon Johnson, Lady Bird Johnson, and Senator Johnson, or Vice President Johnson.

00:25:15.000 And then in the next image, Johnson is missing.

00:25:19.000 That's because he hits the deck prior to the first shot being heard.

00:25:24.000 Now, Rufus Youngblood, who is a Secret Service agent assigned to Johnson, testifies to the Warren Commission that upon hearing the first shot, he pushed Johnson to the floor.

00:25:36.000 After Johnson's death, Youngblood recants and says, well, no, that's not actually what happened.

00:25:42.000 That's what I was told to say.

00:25:43.000 But that Johnson hit the deck and was talking into a small radio or walkie-talkie prior to the first shot being fired.

00:25:52.000 All of those anomalies raise suspicions about what happened that day.

00:25:59.000 In fact, it was Johnson who convinced Kennedy to visit Texas.

00:26:05.000 The purpose of this was to bind up a division between the more conservative bourbon wing of the Texas Democrat Party and the more progressive liberal wing as heading According to Jackie Kennedy's memoirs, the night before...

00:26:23.000 Johnson goes to President Kennedy's hotel room in Fort Worth and tries to change the motorcade arrangements to put Senator Yarbrough, his hated rival, in the death car with John Kennedy and move Governor Connolly to the vice presidential car.

00:26:40.000 Kennedy refuses, saying it defeats the whole purpose of his trip to Dallas.

00:26:45.000 He's supposed to be seen with the head of the conservative wing of the party to try to unite the party for the 1964 election.

00:26:53.000 Johnson pitches a fit.

00:26:55.000 Jackie Kennedy says to her husband, what's wrong with Lyndon?

00:26:58.000 And JFK says, that's just Lyndon being Lyndon.

00:27:02.000 So, as you know, Connolly was wounded along with...

00:27:08.000 John Kennedy.

00:27:09.000 And from thence, the so-called single bullet theory was conjured up.

00:27:18.000 In fact, this new documentary by Paramount Plus, What the Parkland Doctors Saw, you said at the beginning, Charlie, there are multiple shooters.

00:27:27.000 And the wounds the doctors saw in John Kennedy were consistent with his being shot from the front.

00:27:34.000 And the back.

00:27:35.000 None of this, of course, is reflected in any of the documents that have been released thus far.

00:27:41.000 So let's let's remind the audience, though, the significance of this, because some 20 year old that might be watching the show, Roger, would say that's all terrible.

00:27:50.000 But so what?

00:27:51.000 OK, let's say that there were two shooters.

00:27:54.000 If there was more than one shooter, therefore, that means the government lied about it in the Warren Commission.

00:27:59.000 They actively covered it up.

00:28:01.000 And therefore it means definitionally it was a conspiracy.

00:28:06.000 Roger, do you believe in more than one shooter?

00:28:10.000 If so, what do you think happened on the grassy knoll?

00:28:13.000 There's at least two witnesses, one in the railroad tower, a second witness on the ground, who see a man on the fence line on the so-called grassy knoll.

00:28:26.000 They see a puff of smoke from a gun.

00:28:29.000 They actually see the man drive up in a green Plymouth station wagon, remove a rifle from a rifle bag, shoot from the fence line.

00:28:38.000 I believe that man was a paid assassin, a Corsican, who was working for organized crime. 0.86

00:28:44.000 I think that is one of two shooters.

00:28:47.000 The other shooter we've already talked about.

00:28:48.000 I believe it is Malcolm Wallace from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.

00:28:53.000 Johnny Roselli.

00:28:55.000 Very famous gangster, rather flamboyant, insists that he was a shooter shooting from the sewer grate.

00:29:01.000 So there's at least three shooters.

00:29:04.000 I think there may have been a fourth shooter in the Dow Tech's building, which is across from the Texas School Book Depository building.

00:29:13.000 Six doctors, pardon me, 16 doctors.

00:29:17.000 Record a blowout wound in the rear of Kennedy's head, meaning he had been hit from the front.

00:29:23.000 There's a wound about the size of a grapefruit in the back of Kennedy's head.

00:29:28.000 By the time his body gets to the Bethesda Medical Center, and by the way, his body had to be removed at gunpoint by the Secret Service because Texas state law insists on an autopsy.

00:29:40.000 performed in Texas before the body can be released.

00:29:45.000 So they essentially snatch the body and they take it to Now, I believe it is possible that Kennedy's body actually left on Air Force Two, got to Bethesda Medical Center earlier than expected, that the coffin that was on Air Force One may have been empty.

00:30:10.000 That wound is not recorded in Bethesda.

00:30:14.000 Really quick, yes or no question, Roger.

00:30:16.000 Didn't his head go missing?

00:30:19.000 His brain very definitely went missing.

00:30:22.000 That is indesputable, yes.

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00:31:29.000 The significance of getting towards the truth of this.

00:31:34.000 Could show that the government lies to you and the government was involved.

00:31:38.000 What would you say to someone that still believes that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and any one of us that believes that there's more to the story, that we're just being conspiracy wingnuts?

00:31:52.000 Roger, your response.

00:31:53.000 I'd ask them to look at the events of Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:31:56.000 I'd ask them to look at the events of West Palm Beach.

00:32:00.000 The similarities are very eerie.

00:32:06.000 Let's take Butler, for example.

00:32:09.000 We know that the Secret Service, the state police, and the local police know for 92 minutes there's a man who's been seen with a rangefinder and a gun within the seal perimeter of the president's event, but no one tells the president's...

00:32:27.000 Direct security detail, and he's not evacuated, which is what the Secret Service manual would have required.

00:32:33.000 We're told that the Secret Service, the state police, and the local police are all on different radio frequencies, so they can't communicate with each other.

00:32:43.000 In fact, local police see a man with a gun on the roof of a building earlier than the Secret Service, but they can't communicate that.

00:32:55.000 Matthew Crooks is the man who shot President Trump from the roof of a building, but just as they hosed out the inside of JFK's limousine almost immediately, they hosed down the roof of the building where Crooks was shot and killed, presumably so there'd be no trace of his DNA.

00:33:16.000 I find all of these things troubling, and I think that there are more questions than there are.

00:33:22.000 I find that troubling in itself.

00:33:26.000 Donald Trump poses an existential threat to the established order.

00:33:31.000 And now you look at the events in West Palm Beach, which are even more disturbing.

00:33:36.000 How does this man, Ryan Routh, who is accused of trying to kill the president, we're told that he's indigent, behind in his rent payments, behind in his alimony payments.

00:33:47.000 How does he afford to fly to Kiev?

00:33:49.000 How does he afford to fly to London, among other places he's been seen?

00:33:54.000 How does he afford to post an online website recruiting mercenary soldiers to fight in Ukraine?

00:34:01.000 How does he obtain the gun that he has with him on the ground in West Palm Beach where the serial numbers have been filed off?

00:34:10.000 Again, clear ties to the Ukrainians.

00:34:16.000 What happened in 1963, not dissimilar to what happened in the run-up to the presidential election, which is why every night when I say the rosary, when I pray the rosary, I pray for the protection of the president and his family first and foremost.

00:34:34.000 You can call me a conspiracy theorist if you want, but there's already been two attempts on his life.

00:34:39.000 Why would there not be a third?

00:34:43.000 I mean, that's dark and deep and true stuff, Roger, unfortunately.

00:34:48.000 You have been working on this for decades, I'm sure, frustratingly.

00:34:52.000 Do you believe you're making progress, Roger, in informing the American people about the truth of how our government might have the ability to execute its own president?

00:35:01.000 Well, I certainly pray that I do.

00:35:03.000 Charlie, I'm working on a book on the attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan.

00:35:08.000 You know, the government has never produced a final report.

00:35:13.000 But we know that John Hinckley Jr., the man accused and later incarcerated and recently released in the assassination attempt of Reagan, is always in front of Reagan, crouching, shooting upwards.

00:35:26.000 He gets off four shots.

00:35:28.000 All four shots are accounted for.

00:35:30.000 None of them hit Reagan.

00:35:31.000 Reagan was hit from above and behind.

00:35:35.000 This is indisputable.

00:35:36.000 So I'm now in about chapter 8 of what I think will be a 10 or 12 chapter book on that assassination.

00:35:44.000 I think that there's a timeline of history here, Charlie.

00:35:47.000 I think the same dark forces...

00:35:50.000 Eisenhower called them the military-industrial complex.

00:35:53.000 We call them the deep state.

00:35:54.000 The same forces who killed Kennedy, the same forces who removed Nixon for having the audacity of being for peace in a silent coup, the same forces that tried to kill Reagan, the same forces who tried...

00:36:10.000 Trump is this, in fact, this deep state, this globalist conspiracy of unelected bureaucrats and others that infect our national security apparatus, our military, the think tanks, the defense contractors.

00:36:27.000 And they are scared to death by the most improbable and I think successful president in our lifetimes.

00:36:34.000 Well said.

00:36:35.000 Everyone check out Roger's book.

00:36:37.000 One more time, say it, Roger.

00:36:38.000 The Man Who Killed Kennedy, the case against LBJ, you can get it by going to themanwhokilledkennedy.com.

00:36:44.000 Thanks, Roger.

00:36:45.000 Talk to you soon.

00:36:45.000 Excellent work.

00:36:46.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:47.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:50.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 20, 2025

Who Really Killed JFK? ft. Roger Stone

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