The Charlie Kirk Show - Who Rules: Judges or the President?

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00:00:03.000 So myself, Andrew Colvett, executive producer of the show, along with Blake Neff, anchor this hour.

00:00:10.000 And we also welcome Senator Rick Scott to the show.

00:00:12.000 We talk about the Alien Enemies Act of 1789, how President Trump and the Trump administration defied a court order.

00:00:22.000 We talk about national injunctions.

00:00:23.000 We talk about Trend de Aragua and the...

00:00:26.000 Utter disarray of the Democrat Party, how we should best respond to that.

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00:01:51.000 Everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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00:02:24.000 I am joined by the one and only Blake Neff, who if the show goes off the rails too much, we're just going to talk about Roman history.

00:02:33.000 That's what we'll do, Blake.

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00:02:40.000 So, Blake, there's so much in the news today.

00:02:43.000 Genuinely, a fascinating weekend that we had.

00:02:46.000 I mean, we've got egg prices have been dropping off a cliff, thankfully.

00:02:49.000 The left loves that.

00:02:51.000 We've got reciprocal tariffs coming in.

00:02:53.000 Scott Besson had a fascinating interview this weekend.

00:02:56.000 Those are coming into effect on April 2nd.

00:02:59.000 The market's all up in arms.

00:03:01.000 We're going to see what happens there.

00:03:02.000 This right-track, wrong-track polling is incredible, historic.

00:03:09.000 We've got attacks against the Houthis that have been messing with our trade routes in the Middle East.

00:03:15.000 We've got the Alien Enemies Act, which is probably the big story of the weekend, Blake, and that's what we're going to start with.

00:03:20.000 And then just polling in general.

00:03:22.000 We were so used to getting polling all the time during the election and the run-up to the presidential election that It's kind of novel now to get a set of polls out that tell us anything about the way the country's feeling.

00:03:37.000 Blake, let's start with the big news of the weekend, and that is President Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act of like 1789.

00:03:46.000 It's over 200 years old, this act.

00:03:50.000 And he did it to deport a plane full of about 250 Tren de Aragua gang members, and he sent them to El Salvador.

00:04:00.000 Bukele was involved.

00:04:03.000 While the plane is in flight, a judge orders this plane to be turned around.

00:04:09.000 He puts an injunction on it, says Trump doesn't have the authority to invoke the Alien Enemies Act.

00:04:15.000 And the Trump administration defies that order, claiming that the plane was already in international airspace.

00:04:22.000 Therefore, the order was null and void.

00:04:26.000 It did not apply to that situation.

00:04:30.000 The criminals, the Trente Aragua gang members, are now in El Salvador at the terrorism detention center there.

00:04:37.000 But the controversy is ongoing.

00:04:41.000 Everybody on the left is claiming this is going to be a constitutional crisis.

00:04:45.000 And actually, Blake...

00:04:47.000 On the one hand, they might be right.

00:04:49.000 You're even hearing voices on the right now saying this is a constitutional crisis because these national injunctions by these district court judges, of which there are more than 200 of them, actually have—this has been a crisis that the Trump administration wanted to pick.

00:05:05.000 They wanted to pick a fight, and the question was, which was the right fight to pick?

00:05:10.000 Your take, Blake.

00:05:11.000 Yeah, I mean, it is true.

00:05:13.000 We are headed towards some sort of constitutional showdown.

00:05:16.000 We discussed, I think we tweeted last week, the number of nationwide injunctions from federal judges in the first two months of the Trump administration.

00:05:26.000 In fact, I think just in February alone was more than the first three years of the Biden presidency.

00:05:33.000 And some of that's not super surprising because Trump has been very aggressive.

00:05:38.000 He has been very assertive.

00:05:40.000 Done more things that could provoke a nationwide injunction.

00:05:44.000 But at the same time, you're getting to the point, you're realizing there's going to be, like, if a district judge has the power to do a nationwide injunction and you have these judges who have been appointed by Obama, appointed by Biden,

00:05:59.000 they've been radicalized.

00:06:00.000 To hate Trump for a decade.

00:06:02.000 They're going to come up with a justification for a nationwide injunction on anything.

00:06:06.000 And immigration is the best example. 1.00

00:06:09.000 During Trump's first term, this isn't well remembered, but during Trump's first term, you had judges ruling that Trump couldn't be deporting...

00:06:18.000 Illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:06:19.000 Couldn't do his immigration enforcement stuff.

00:06:21.000 I think this was maybe DACA related.

00:06:23.000 But he couldn't do immigration enforcement stuff basically because he'd made anti-immigrant tweets during the campaign.

00:06:30.000 And so this showed that Trump was doing these things for hateful reasons.

00:06:35.000 So, you know, Obama could have done it, but Trump couldn't because he was doing it with hate in his heart.

00:06:39.000 He had the wrong motivations.

00:06:41.000 And so here, now we're coming around to, okay, like, the president...

00:06:46.000 We have had an absolutely blown open border under Biden.

00:06:51.000 Unprecedented incursions.

00:06:53.000 And you have these judges issuing nationwide micromanagement of, actually, you need to turn these planes around right now or else, even though they're in international waters.

00:07:04.000 At that point...

00:07:05.000 Like, okay, could the judge say, actually, the planes have to keep flying until they crash, and you have to move these troops elsewhere?

00:07:12.000 Like, you get to the point where the judges clearly think they can rule on absolutely anything nationwide, and you don't want to reach the point where a president can just veto anything a judge does, but at the same time, we have one president.

00:07:26.000 We don't have whatever number of district court.

00:07:28.000 We don't have 240 presidents nationwide who can all veto each other.

00:07:33.000 It is impossible to have a

00:07:35.000 Well, I'm fascinated.

00:07:40.000 I mean, you bring up an interesting point that we had over 200,000, or maybe depending on what the number is, it was either 10, 15, Trump has said it's up to 20 million illegal migrants entering the country.

00:07:53.000 Hard to know what that number is.

00:07:54.000 But, you know, there wasn't national injunctions saying, you know, Joe Biden actually has to enforce the border laws that we have on the books.

00:08:03.000 It only seems to work one way, and I think that's ultimately where the frustration lies, is that they do a lot of judge shopping, and these activist liberal judges view the judiciary, the role of the judges of the Article III courts in this country,

00:08:20.000 They view it more from an activist lens.

00:08:22.000 So we're almost at a structural disadvantage because conservative judges tend to not overstep their boundaries as much, whereas an activist judge sort of feels the need to do so, right?

00:08:34.000 And so there's actually, it's easier for the left to activate this policy.

00:08:39.000 I don't think we should overstep that, Andrew, because we've definitely had nationwide injunctions under the Biden administration, under the Obama administration.

00:08:48.000 I think there were nationwide injunctions on provisions of Obamacare until that went to the Supreme Court.

00:08:54.000 I think there have been nationwide injunctions on –

00:08:57.000 I think some gun related stuff.

00:08:59.000 There was some in the Texas showdown.

00:09:03.000 No, no, absolutely.

00:09:05.000 I'm saying that by and large, it is one side does it more than the other.

00:09:12.000 You alluded to as much, yes, Trump has been more active that would provoke more of a reaction from the left, but in,

00:09:20.000 You know, in general terms, this is a tactic that the left has employed far more successfully and far more times than has happened on the right.

00:09:28.000 And I think just by disposition, a conservative judge is less likely to go stick his foot into matters that he or she doesn't feel they need to.

00:09:39.000 But yeah, it does happen, both sides.

00:09:40.000 Granted, point taken.

00:09:42.000 But what I'm also fascinated about...

00:09:44.000 Like, is this idea of the strategy behind this.

00:09:48.000 So they've essentially been itching for this fight in the Trump administration.

00:09:52.000 All of these national injunctions have come down.

00:09:55.000 There is a whole legal theory behind this where a district court is...

00:10:02.000 And by the way, there's more activities happening.

00:10:08.000 There's more people that are working on this behind the scenes.

00:10:10.000 But the theory is that a district court ruling should only apply to the people that are involved

00:10:20.000 It should not, therefore, be a nationwide injunction.

00:10:25.000 And, you know, I think there's some strong, you know, historical rationale behind that.

00:10:31.000 But this idea that one judge can then essentially rule the country, at least in specific policies, is a very, very new phenomenon in the republic.

00:10:41.000 And we can break all that down.

00:10:42.000 But this is the showdown of the early Trump administration.

00:10:46.000 Can judges overrule the will of the people in the Article 2 vested powers of the presidency?

00:10:52.000 That is the question.

00:10:54.000 That is the showdown that we are in.

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00:12:16.000 Blake, so...

00:12:18.000 I mentioned before the break that I was really fascinated about the strategy of this.

00:12:22.000 And so just to let people in behind the scenes of what happened is they basically tried to, you know, oftentimes Trump will sign these executive orders really publicly.

00:12:33.000 It's for all the world to see.

00:12:34.000 They did this in sort of secret where he's invoked the 1789 law, the Alien Enemies Act.

00:12:41.000 And then it got leaked.

00:12:43.000 They found out about this.

00:12:44.000 They rushed to get these 250 Trendy Aragua gang members, domestic terrorists, if you will, but from a foreign gang, on the plane as ASAP. 0.93

00:12:55.000 The thing goes to court.

00:12:57.000 These guys are in the air as this ruling happens.

00:13:00.000 They say, well, over international waters.

00:13:03.000 Do you think this was the right fight to pick just because of the optics?

00:13:07.000 Because essentially it puts the Democrats in a place where they have to say, well, we're defending criminal gang members.

00:13:15.000 Do you think that's the right pick?

00:13:16.000 Do you think this was the right fight to pick this with these courts?

00:13:19.000 Well, if we were going to have a showdown with the courts, I think immigration is the best place to have a showdown with them. 1.00

00:13:26.000 It's where we most consistently have judges trying to do things that are insane, where they're basically saying, you're not allowed to deport any illegal criminals.

00:13:35.000 It's almost like 25% of the federal judiciary is just far-left radicals who believe there's...

00:13:43.000 Article 1 of the Constitution is just America has open borders no matter what.

00:13:48.000 And so it's a good fight to have in that sense.

00:13:50.000 I do hope that they're 110% on...

00:13:54.000 All of this implodes immediately if they ever accidentally deport someone who is a U.S. citizen, for example.

00:14:01.000 So I hope they're 110% on that.

00:14:03.000 But if all of them are foreign gang members and they've come in huge numbers under Biden, that's definitely the most...

00:14:11.000 The best way that Trump can justify, I need dramatic action.

00:14:14.000 It's also a good area to fight because the president's authority over immigration under the law is very high.

00:14:21.000 The president basically can exclude people that he deems a threat to the United States.

00:14:26.000 The president, as commander-in-chief, has the very explicit constitutional authority to defend the United States.

00:14:35.000 And I think they're on strong grounds if they say, okay...

00:14:38.000 Maybe a hundred years ago, this would get invoked primarily during wartime.

00:14:43.000 But these days, you don't have as much war between states, but you have far greater ability for non-state actors such as criminal gangs to just intrude into your country and cause mayhem.

00:14:55.000 And I think the Trump administration is on strong grounds to say that is the modern version of...

00:15:01.000 A military invasion of, you know, a foreign horde showing up and trying to sack your cities and the president needs to invoke aggressive powers to combat this.

00:15:12.000 I'd much rather be having them showdown with the courts over this than, for example, over, we'll probably discuss this later, like the auto-pen thing with Biden.

00:15:21.000 I think this is something where the interest of the American people is very clear.

00:15:24.000 And you're forcing Democrats into this box of defending, oh yeah, we don't want gang members deported.

00:15:30.000 And eventually they'll be able to say, this guy was involved in a home invasion.

00:15:34.000 This guy was involved in murders.

00:15:35.000 This guy was caught with 10 kilos of fentanyl.

00:15:38.000 There's so many things they can get them on.

00:15:40.000 Well, in this district.

00:15:44.000 You know, this is the judge that essentially stepped in and said that, you know, you can't be using the Alien Enemies Act of 1789 to deport these 250 alleged Trendy Aragle gang members.

00:15:58.000 This is also a guy, by the way, that gave Eric Cimarella If you will recall from the FBI investigation of Trump, he was the one who falsified the actual FBI documents, which is a federal crime, a very serious one.

00:16:12.000 This is the same judge that basically gave him a slap on the wrist.

00:16:15.000 So that's a weird, you know, little wrinkle here that some, you know, I've heard other Republicans say, hey, this guy has it out for Trump.

00:16:23.000 He's an anti-Trump judge.

00:16:24.000 You can't trust this guy.

00:16:26.000 It's a very serious crime.

00:16:30.000 Cimarella committed against the country, specifically targeting President Trump.

00:16:36.000 So that judge has come back around now and is a thorn in the side of the Trump administration.

00:16:42.000 My two cents here is that if you are going to pick a fight, the authority vested in the president to handle foreign activities, whether that be immigration or war or Treaties with other countries is pretty established within the courts.

00:17:02.000 If you're going to pick a fight, do it there because it's the firmest footing that a president has constitutionally.

00:17:09.000 I love this.

00:17:10.000 I think politically, optically, I love all of it.

00:17:13.000 And I love that the White House was essentially...

00:17:17.000 You know, specifically Stephen Miller was itching for this showdown with Article 3. So it's an Article 2 versus Article 3 showdown.

00:17:25.000 I think it's the perfect one to do it.

00:17:27.000 Nobody likes Trend de Aragua.

00:17:28.000 They need to go.

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00:18:36.000 I mean, who in their right mind, whether you're a judge or not...

00:18:41.000 TDA, a recognized terrorist organization, sent here by the Maduro regime, to create havoc, to unsettle the United States through the use of fentanyl to kill thousands of Americans, violence to American citizens, raping and murdering young women in this country.

00:18:57.000 They're enemies of this country, and President Trump treated them as enemies, and we did exactly what we should have done.

00:19:03.000 Again, President Trump is going to make this country safe again.

00:19:07.000 He's going to do it one illegal alien at a time, and this weekend, we did 261.

00:19:12.000 The great Tom Homan, border czar, friend of this show, friend of the country, friend of every patriot, telling it like it is.

00:19:19.000 There's another clip going around, and maybe we'll get to it, of him defending a 200-year-old law.

00:19:26.000 No, it wasn't the Alien Enemies Act.

00:19:29.000 It was actually the Constitution.

00:19:30.000 So good for Tom Homan.

00:19:31.000 Good for the president.

00:19:32.000 I love this fight.

00:19:33.000 We are joined by the great senator from Florida, Senator Rick Scott.

00:19:38.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, sir.

00:19:40.000 Honored to have you.

00:19:41.000 Thank you for making the time, even though Charlie's out sick today.

00:19:45.000 Well, I hope he feels better, and I'm glad you're healthy.

00:19:47.000 Well, yeah, we're hanging in there.

00:19:49.000 I got three little kids.

00:19:50.000 I'm surprised I'm not down as well.

00:19:53.000 Usually they're passing around their germs very successfully over at the Colvid household. 1.00

00:19:57.000 Senator, I want to get your take on this uproar over the Alien Enemies Act, 1789.

00:20:05.000 Trump is invoking it to rid the country of Trente Aragua members.

00:20:10.000 Meanwhile, a judge, activist judge, who's got a history with Trump, by the way, You've got to turn that plane around.

00:20:18.000 The administration defies that order, says it's over international waters, continues down to El Salvador.

00:20:24.000 Bukele has our back, says too late, too bad.

00:20:27.000 What is your take on this?

00:20:29.000 Do you like this approach from the administration?

00:20:31.000 Did they make the right call here?

00:20:33.000 They made the right call.

00:20:35.000 Number one, thank God President Trump's the president, so he's going to try to keep our kids and our grandkids safe.

00:20:41.000 I mean, who in their right mind, one, who filed the lawsuit?

00:20:46.000 You don't care about kids and grandkids that might be raped or murdered or killed through fentanyl?

00:20:52.000 That's number one.

00:20:53.000 Number two is, does this judge not have a family member that he cares about?

00:20:57.000 He doesn't care about the crime in this country?

00:21:00.000 I mean, this stuff, this is stupidity.

00:21:03.000 This is crazy what this judge has done.

00:21:06.000 But I don't know who filed the lawsuit.

00:21:08.000 And why they don't care about this country.

00:21:10.000 So I'm glad that President Trump does.

00:21:12.000 I'm glad that Tom Homan does.

00:21:13.000 I want them to keep fighting every way possible to get rid of criminals, terrorists, people that are selling drugs to our kids and our grandkids and killing them.

00:21:24.000 I want them out of this country.

00:21:25.000 I want people to be safe.

00:21:27.000 Yeah, and I think, you know, Senator, it occurs to me that—and we're going to get into some of this polling that we're— I mean, it's just shocking, the polling that's coming out over this weekend from NBC, CNN.

00:21:40.000 But, you know, it shocks me that the Democrats seem to continually find themselves on the losing end of an 80-20 issue, and they keep doing it, and they're digging their heels in, it seems like, just to get Trump.

00:21:52.000 I personally love the— President Trump, Stephen Miller, the White House is picking this fight amongst all the other fights they could pick.

00:22:01.000 Now, there's some stat, Senator, where national injunctions, there was more in the first month of President Trump's administration than there were in the first three years of the Biden administration.

00:22:12.000 What can the Senate do? 0.56

00:22:14.000 I know Chuck Grassley's chimed in on social media.

00:22:18.000 What can the Senate do as part of its role to rein in this judicial activism? 0.77

00:22:23.000 Well, we've got to get Trump judges confirmed.

00:22:26.000 So, number one, we've got to make sure that, you know, Trump's White House counsel and Pam Bodney give us the names of those that they want to appoint.

00:22:35.000 Also, we've got to get new U.S. attorneys, you know, in position and U.S. marshals.

00:22:40.000 So the big thing we can do is, number one, do what Chuck Grassley talked about, is we've got to do everything we can to help the judiciary.

00:22:48.000 Then number two is we've got to make sure that President Trump has the resources.

00:22:53.000 We need to get this reconciliation package done as quickly as possible.

00:22:57.000 So he has the resources to deport the hundreds of thousands of people that should be deported from this country because they're doing illegal things.

00:23:06.000 And I want this country to be safe.

00:23:08.000 Yeah, millions.

00:23:09.000 I mean, Tom Homan, I think he's asking for like $170 billion.

00:23:14.000 And meanwhile, we're cutting everything else, which we should be.

00:23:16.000 It's the one area of the federal budget that I think Americans are going to look at and say, yeah, we need more there.

00:23:22.000 Do you have high hopes now that we've gotten past this showdown with Schumer?

00:23:28.000 Which his base is very upset with him about Senator Scott.

00:23:31.000 They're very, very mad.

00:23:33.000 And we're going to get into that in just a sec.

00:23:34.000 Do you have hopes that the Senate is going to be able to move on from this CR showdown and get this budget reconciliation, one big, beautiful bill on the president's desk?

00:23:43.000 Are you feeling good about our prospects there?

00:23:46.000 Absolutely.

00:23:47.000 And here's what we're going to do.

00:23:48.000 We're going to get the president money for the deportations.

00:23:51.000 We're going to plus up the military to make sure we can defend our freedoms.

00:23:54.000 We're going to extend the Trump tax cuts.

00:23:56.000 And we're going to start the process of balancing the budget.

00:23:58.000 I think all those things are going to happen.

00:24:00.000 We've got to get 218 people in the House to vote for it, 51 Republicans in the Senate.

00:24:05.000 I think we're all going to come together to get this done.

00:24:08.000 So we all know why President Trump won.

00:24:11.000 He won over the border.

00:24:12.000 He won over inflation.

00:24:14.000 He won over a woke federal government, an unaccountable federal government.

00:24:19.000 So he's doing his job.

00:24:21.000 I believe we're going to do our job and get all these things done.

00:24:24.000 I really hope that...

00:24:26.000 I think after the Schumer cave, and it really was a cave, I mean, I like our chance.

00:24:33.000 I like our momentum, Senator.

00:24:35.000 And I want to get into this.

00:24:36.000 Now people are talking about AOC.

00:24:39.000 He's primarying Chuck Schumer.

00:24:42.000 You know, Chuck Schumer is just now, this is breaking this morning, he's canceled a book tour, Senator.

00:24:47.000 Let's go ahead and play cut 81. We have learned that Schumer and Jeffries did meet behind closed doors yesterday in Brooklyn, trying to get back on the same page.

00:24:56.000 They have huge and consequential fights ahead.

00:24:59.000 But the backlash from the left is real.

00:25:01.000 In fact, Wolf, Chuck Schumer is scheduled to do a book tour in a number of cities on a book that he has authored on anti-Semitism.

00:25:07.000 He has just canceled that book tour, we are learning, because of protests that were scheduled from activist groups who wanted to go after his decision to agree and allow them.

00:25:21.000 Senator, what do you make of this backlash to Schumer and his choice ultimately to fund the government?

00:25:31.000 Break that whole scene down for us.

00:25:34.000 You were there.

00:25:34.000 You were inside the halls.

00:25:35.000 What happened?

00:25:37.000 Well, here's what happened.

00:25:39.000 Republicans came together.

00:25:41.000 We did what we should have done.

00:25:43.000 We had a simple continuing resolution.

00:25:45.000 Now, none of us really want to vote for continuing resolutions because we wouldn't have passed budgets.

00:25:51.000 But unfortunately, this started last summer when Chuck Schumer wouldn't bring these appropriation bills to the floor.

00:25:56.000 So we're stuck in the position we're in.

00:25:58.000 We came together in the House.

00:26:00.000 Our Republicans came together in the Senate.

00:26:02.000 And we said, we're going to pass this.

00:26:04.000 And so it was up to the Democrats to shut down government.

00:26:06.000 Now, you had Democrats that clearly wanted to shut down government.

00:26:10.000 Andy Kim, Cory Booker, Chris Murphy and others.

00:26:14.000 They wanted to shut down government.

00:26:15.000 But what they realized, I think what Chuck Schumer realized is that was basically playing into Donald Trump's hands.

00:26:21.000 One, they would get known for the shutdown.

00:26:23.000 And number two, it would give even more authority for President Trump to do exactly what he should be doing, reducing the size of the federal government.

00:26:30.000 Reducing the number of people in the federal government.

00:26:34.000 Here's what we've got to do.

00:26:36.000 We've got to stop growing the government and start growing the private sector.

00:26:41.000 What we've been doing under the Biden administration, and the same thing happened under Obama, is the government sector grew, not the private sector.

00:26:48.000 We want private sector jobs, not more government jobs.

00:26:51.000 That's exactly what Donald Trump is doing.

00:26:53.000 You know, there's a crazy stat, Senator.

00:26:55.000 In the last two years of the Biden presidency, one out of four new jobs created were government jobs.

00:27:03.000 One out of four.

00:27:08.000 They're part-time jobs.

00:27:10.000 We were losing full-time jobs, only adding part-time jobs.

00:27:13.000 And people born in this country were not getting jobs.

00:27:16.000 Only people born out of this country. 0.92

00:27:18.000 I'm sure it's become legal through the green cards and things like that.

00:27:22.000 But here's what we knew.

00:27:23.000 It was getting more difficult for people that grew up here to get a job, easier for people that didn't grow up here to get a job.

00:27:29.000 I mean, that doesn't make any sense.

00:27:31.000 So Donald Trump didn't walk in with a good economy.

00:27:34.000 Donald Trump walked in with an economy that was...

00:27:37.000 Struggling.

00:27:38.000 Struggling for jobs, struggling with inflation, struggling with interest rates, all these things.

00:27:43.000 He's committed to balancing the budget.

00:27:45.000 When we balance the budget, what's going to happen is interest rates are going to come down, inflation is going to come down.

00:27:50.000 I think you're right.

00:27:52.000 Structurally, this economy was surviving on a sugar high.

00:27:55.000 There was a bunch of monetary games being played to juice it for Kamala right at the finish line. 1.00

00:27:59.000 Trump has to get our economy back on stable footing with free...

00:28:04.000 And fair trade deals with all these partners, especially the European Union, Canada, Mexico, and so on.

00:28:10.000 Now, Senator, I want...

00:28:11.000 Charlie put this clip up over the weekend.

00:28:13.000 Your team said that you guys saw this.

00:28:16.000 So let's go ahead and play this.

00:28:18.000 This is right track, wrong track.

00:28:21.000 The country is responding really positively to the Trump agenda.

00:28:27.000 Let's go ahead and play Cut 64. First of all, the mood of the country.

00:28:31.000 This really jumped out.

00:28:32.000 We ask folks, is it on the right direction or the wrong direction?

00:28:35.000 That 44 percent, you say right direction, that's up since November.

00:28:39.000 And if that doesn't seem like a lot, the last time it cracked 40 percent, you've got to go back to 2012.

00:28:44.000 The last time it actually hit 44 or higher, January of 2004.

00:28:50.000 So a lot of this is Republicans, but independents, that number is also up since the election on the direction of the country.

00:28:56.000 All right, so I want to pair that, Senator, with one other clip.

00:29:00.000 So 44% of Americans think the country's on the right track.

00:29:04.000 Meanwhile, Democrats are struggling.

00:29:06.000 Play cut 60. Americans' favorable views of the Democratic Party's brand are at a record low, just 29 percent.

00:29:14.000 That's compared to 36 percent for Republicans.

00:29:17.000 It is the lowest ever recorded for Democrats in CNN polling, going back more than 30 years.

00:29:23.000 As you can see, the party's numbers dropping a staggering 20 points in just four years.

00:29:28.000 Now, this survey was taken before this week's tumultuous battle over funding the government, which resulted in one of the ugliest intraparty Democratic disputes in years.

00:29:37.000 Trump is just scrambling their brains.

00:29:40.000 Meanwhile, the American people are seeing action and they love it.

00:29:43.000 Senator, one minute.

00:29:44.000 Your reaction to all of that?

00:29:46.000 Well, number one, as I travel around Florida, people come up to me all the time.

00:29:50.000 Aren't you excited?

00:29:51.000 We're finally headed in the right direction.

00:29:53.000 And they just laugh at the Democrats because the Democrats are still focused on an open border, men playing in women's sports, some of the things that are completely appalling to most of this country.

00:30:06.000 So we're on the right track.

00:30:08.000 Democrats are on the wrong track.

00:30:10.000 I'm very optimistic about where we're going.

00:30:12.000 Well, Senator Scott, you are one of the good ones in the Senate.

00:30:15.000 You're fighting for us, the people, the base.

00:30:18.000 We got your back 100%.

00:30:20.000 Thank you for fighting as well to balance the budget.

00:30:23.000 I love that you brought up that phrase, balance the budget.

00:30:26.000 We are...

00:30:27.000 Like a heat-seeking missile on that.

00:30:30.000 We know we've got to get through some of this stuff in the short term.

00:30:33.000 We want to keep our eye on the prize.

00:30:34.000 A balanced budget, a made-in-America economic boom, low-inflation boom.

00:30:39.000 These are the prizes that if we stay the course, I really genuinely think we have a chance of seeing materialized in the near future.

00:30:47.000 So thank you for fighting for that, sir, and thanks for your time this morning.

00:30:52.000 All right, Andrew.

00:30:52.000 We're going to get there.

00:30:53.000 Bye-bye.

00:30:54.000 Amen.

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00:32:03.000 React, if you will, for a moment to the senator's comments.

00:32:07.000 I mean, you've got a Republican Party that seems...

00:32:13.000 There is chaos.

00:32:14.000 There is tumult.

00:32:15.000 I mean, there's tariff craziness going on.

00:32:17.000 But the Democrats are in disarray.

00:32:20.000 This reaction to Trump and his policies and the force of Trump, despite some of his own shooting himself in the foot sometimes, President Trump or the Republicans, we've got him on the run.

00:32:31.000 There's no doubt about it.

00:32:32.000 Yeah, they're in disarray for sure, but I think you want to be careful about these because it's getting very caught up in the moment-to-moment of the political noise.

00:32:44.000 And the truth is, the Democrats are half the country.

00:32:48.000 They're...

00:32:49.000 They're inevitably going to get together, and they could get together in ways that could be pretty scary.

00:32:54.000 Like, yeah, if Chuck Schumer's getting denounced by everyone in his party for making the deal on spending, that's a sign that they could shift in a more radical direction.

00:33:05.000 That's scary for us, because they'll have scarier ideas for America, but it doesn't even necessarily mean they'll be more popular.

00:33:12.000 I think we saw that in this past election.

00:33:15.000 There's a lot of people who were Bernie supporters who became Trump supporters.

00:33:19.000 They're not people necessarily just moving to the right.

00:33:22.000 They're people who almost – they're just dissatisfied with the Democratic Party as it is.

00:33:26.000 They could be won over by a party that's like Medicare for all, way more burn it all down on a bunch of other stuff.

00:33:34.000 It's like their position is I want to blow up the system and I don't really care how they do it.

00:33:39.000 And so we should be prepared for that for sure.

00:33:42.000 Yeah, to your point, it reminds me of Republicans saying, I'm just so disaffected with the Republican Party.

00:33:48.000 We're going to go to the Patriot Party.

00:33:50.000 All right, so Blake, I'm going to play this clip and get your reaction.

00:33:53.000 59. The grassroots is furious, right?

00:33:56.000 Most of the caucus is furious.

00:33:59.000 I never before, my parents were Democrats.

00:34:01.000 I've been a Democrat my entire life.

00:34:03.000 Never before did I say...

00:34:05.000 I should leave this party.

00:34:06.000 Because if democracy is at risk, and you had no idea what to do, and you have no plan, and even now at this moment, you know nothing of what to do, and you're capitulating to this?

00:34:16.000 This is disgusting.

00:34:17.000 Are you thinking about leaving the Democratic Party?

00:34:19.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:34:20.000 Yes.

00:34:20.000 Yes, me personally, yes.

00:34:21.000 I'm not an elected official, but I have always voted with the Democrats.

00:34:24.000 Over this issue?

00:34:26.000 Yeah, over the inability to figure out what to do in the face of fascism and the rise of Trump.

00:34:32.000 Yeah, so...

00:34:33.000 The big thing with it is just that they're disaffected, but it's certainly not a disaffected where they're going to say, you know, I guess I was wrong about Trump.

00:34:42.000 I want to support him.

00:34:43.000 They're angry because they feel they're ineffective at resisting Trump.

00:34:47.000 And that reminds me a lot.

00:34:48.000 I think we remember, like, that's kind of what the Tea Party felt like in 2010.

00:34:51.000 It was a lot of anger at a perceived...

00:34:55.000 Ineffectiveness of Republicans, that they were without direction, that they betrayed the party on important issues.

00:35:01.000 And that, of course, led to a pretty big wave election in 2010 for Republicans who branded themselves differently.

00:35:07.000 And then on a longer time basis, it set up the candidacy of Donald Trump.

00:35:12.000 So I definitely want to tamp down.

00:35:14.000 We can't have too much triumphalism on the right where it's just, oh, wow, those Democrats are in disarray.

00:35:20.000 Because what you're really seeing is you're seeing fertile ground for new leaders to emerge.

00:35:25.000 They might have some sort of demagogic figure take a hold of their party that they're able to whip up the base into, again, like I said, a more radical direction that could still be electorally potent.

00:35:38.000 I would strongly push back on anything where we're in great shape because Democrats are angry with each other, because that can very easily turn into a potent new force.

00:35:51.000 Now, that doesn't mean...

00:35:52.000 You want to slow down.

00:35:53.000 You want to take advantage of their disorderliness to get things done because that's the point of politics is to get things done.

00:36:01.000 I totally agree.

00:36:02.000 We always have to be vigilant.

00:36:04.000 I think the difference between this conservative movement and one of the eras past is we are more vigilant.

00:36:09.000 We are more activated.

00:36:10.000 There's a really powerful graphic, actually, if I can pull it up just really quick, that shows the power of the conservative media world.

00:36:21.000 Compared to Democrats right now.

00:36:23.000 These are unprecedented times.

00:36:25.000 And I have the team throw this up really quick.

00:36:27.000 And actually, Charlie is prominently featured in this display.

00:36:33.000 But it shows the conservative media sort of, if you will, ecosystem versus the Democrat ecosystem.

00:36:41.000 If you see, there's a lot more red blobs out there. 1.00

00:36:44.000 And I think this is actually what they're freaking out about.

00:36:47.000 Blake, I think Democrats have been so accustomed to dominating media, dominating narrative from the Washington Post, New York Times, and CNN, and MSNBC, and so on, that they are not sure how to react because everything that they're throwing at the wall doesn't seem to stick because all of those red bubbles in there,

00:37:06.000 and Charlie's up in the upper left-hand corner if you're watching this.

00:37:10.000 We're able to push back against the lies and nothing is sticking.

00:37:14.000 So even when there's turmoil or chaos in some of the cell phones from the Trump administration, which do happen, we're able to push through it, unlike previous moments.

00:37:23.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 17, 2025

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