The Charlie Kirk Show - Who Will the Next Generation Serve? LIVE from Asheboro, North Carolina with Pastor Boyd Byerly

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00:00:14.000 It is my conversation with Boyd Byerly, great American from Asheboro, North Carolina.

00:00:19.000 We talk about all sorts of things.

00:00:21.000 We talk about the church, we talk about abortion, talk about marriage, talk about all sorts of stuff.

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00:00:45.000 I think you'll really like this dialogue that we have here at our event that we did in Asheboro, North Carolina.

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00:00:56.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:58.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:01:00.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:03.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:07.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:08.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:09.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:01:10.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.

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00:01:17.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

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00:01:29.000 Welcome to our community.

00:01:30.000 Awesome.

00:01:31.000 Great to be here, everybody.

00:01:32.000 Love North Carolina.

00:01:33.000 Thank you.

00:01:33.000 That's awesome.

00:01:34.000 Great to have you.

00:01:40.000 Charlie, won't we begin on tell this group how you came to faith?

00:01:43.000 Yeah, it was the most important decision I ever made in my life.

00:01:46.000 And if there's anyone here that hasn't yet given your life to the Lord, hopefully my story will have some impact on you.

00:01:52.000 I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, and it was the most critical decision I made.

00:01:57.000 And when I made it, I remember I somewhat understood it, but every single year, my goodness, as I got older, sixth, seventh, eighth grade high school, and now where I am today, it just grows in depth and understanding of what grace is and how, you know, how much God loves us and how we're made in his image.

00:02:14.000 And so in fifth grade, I remember my teacher kind of explained the differences of worldview, explained the need, you know, for every single person to reconcile with their creator through Jesus Christ.

00:02:26.000 And I gave my life to the Lord.

00:02:27.000 And since then, I have, you know, let's just say since fifth grade, obviously went through high school and then I started Turning Point USA.

00:02:36.000 And it's grown to be this amazing movement that it is today.

00:02:40.000 And I could tell you, you know, for everyone out there that might be challenging and wrestling, you know, of what you believe and why you believe it, it changes everything you do.

00:02:48.000 And you're born new, literally, when you give your life to the Lord.

00:02:52.000 And that's really the center of everything we do at Teep USA Faith and the center of everything that I do in my own personal capacity as a radio show host, podcaster, and activist.

00:03:02.000 It's always Jesus first. 0.98

00:03:03.000 It's the most important thing.

00:03:05.000 How does that shape your view of America and your approach to America, your faith?

00:03:09.000 Yeah, so once you give your life to the Lord, you realize that God's heart for his children is not to live in torment or tyranny or to live in any form of control.

00:03:18.000 Liberty is not man's idea.

00:03:20.000 It's God's idea.

00:03:21.000 And when we understand that in the eternal realm, it makes a little bit more sense here in the earthly realm, whether it be God delivering his chosen people from the tyranny of Pharaoh.

00:03:31.000 When we talk about civil government, we talk about the type of government we want to form.

00:03:34.000 We should always have a preference towards liberty, which is the pursuit of virtue, not just being able to do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it.

00:03:40.000 And understanding that our country was founded by Christians, 55 out of 56 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Bible-believing church-attending Christians.

00:03:50.000 And every single one of the founding fathers, some were, Not every single one was Christian, but almost all of them were, because I think they get misrepresented in a lot of history textbooks.

00:04:00.000 But all of them believed in two things and two things that we here tonight believe in, which is that there is a God and we are not him.

00:04:08.000 And when you remove those two things from a society, then you're going to have a lot of suffering.

00:04:13.000 You know, what drives me as an American patriot, what drives me as someone who's so worried about what's happening to our country is first and foremost, understand that every single person is made in the image of God and that you have rights given to you by your creator, the right to expression, the right to create, the right to pursue virtue.

00:04:31.000 And that when we form a government, because government is necessary, because man is not angel, we're not angels, as Madison wrote in Federalist 51, that some form of government must understand that you must protect those that can't protect themselves, and that government is not the administer of rights, but it is the protector of rights.

00:04:49.000 This concept is mind-blowing when you look at the governments in world history, that the Americans got it right, and that we are the recipients of the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:04:59.000 And there is a massive propaganda campaign right now trying to tell people that are Christians, oh, it doesn't matter if America falls. 0.54

00:05:07.000 It doesn't matter.

00:05:08.000 Look, I say this as humbly as I possibly can as an American.

00:05:11.000 There's never been a country like America before because we are the longest-lasting constitutional republic ever.

00:05:18.000 Because the founding fathers understood the biblical premise of a couple things.

00:05:18.000 Why?

00:05:23.000 Man is broken from within.

00:05:24.000 That's a big deal.

00:05:26.000 That means, therefore, you can't centralize power.

00:05:28.000 You must have separation of powers.

00:05:30.000 You must have checks and balances.

00:05:32.000 We have the longest-lasting constitutional republic in history because the Constitution was not written for the times.

00:05:38.000 It was written to stand the test of time.

00:05:40.000 Because people do not change, regardless of Twitter and airplanes, and faster cars and soft drinks, all this stuff.

00:05:48.000 In fact, technology makes it easier for us to be able to amplify our sin.

00:05:52.000 The founding fathers understood this, which is why the Constitution is more applicable today than any other time, not less applicable as some of the propagandists would say in the media or in academia.

00:06:02.000 And so as a Christian, I care about the least of these.

00:06:05.000 I care about people that can't protect themselves, especially in the womb. 1.00

00:06:09.000 I care about truth and biological reality as our children are being medically mutilated in front of our very eyes.

00:06:15.000 And look, we have to understand Jesus did not just say things that were true.

00:06:20.000 He is the truth.

00:06:21.000 And anytime the truth is under attack in our society at all, that should concern Christians. 1.00

00:06:27.000 We have to have a radical commitment to honesty in everything that we do.

00:06:32.000 And especially when it comes to biological norms of how we teach these things to our children.

00:06:37.000 And so it affects everything that I do.

00:06:39.000 And I tell people all the time, the most important thing that all of us as Christians can do is give our life to the Lord and spread the gospel.

00:06:46.000 The second most important thing is to make sure you can do the first thing.

00:06:50.000 Because right now we have an unprecedented persecution of the church, jailing of pastors, the silencing of religious voices.

00:06:58.000 And so it all streams from that belief that Jesus is here to, first and foremost, set us free from bondage, set us free from otherwise, would be going to eternal damnation.

00:07:07.000 And we should be trying to preserve liberty in every single way possible here in the American context.

00:07:12.000 So in light of that, in light of that, what would you say to this people here and even those that are on live stream, why it's so important not to be driven by your feelings, but to be driven by faith and truth?

00:07:29.000 Yeah, amen.

00:07:30.000 That's so important.

00:07:31.000 So look, first of all, the Bible talks about that, that if you just follow your heart, you're going to be deceived.

00:07:36.000 I'm paraphrasing, but there's repeated proverbs about.

00:07:38.000 I'm sorry?

00:07:39.000 The heart is desperately wicked.

00:07:41.000 And so that's not a good way to make any decision, right?

00:07:41.000 Amen.

00:07:41.000 Yes.

00:07:45.000 And so I hear this a lot where some people say, Charlie, I don't feel good about this candidate, or I don't feel good about this way of going through things.

00:07:56.000 And the more important question is, will that person do good or do evil?

00:08:01.000 You have to understand that in a representative government of which we have, with consent of the governed, which we have, the candidates or the office holders are conduits to decisions and a reflection of somebody's morality.

00:08:12.000 And so you should ask the question, whose morale do you want to be enforced through laws, through customs, and through public policy?

00:08:18.000 Do you want it to be the word of God that says God created man and woman and life begins at conception?

00:08:23.000 Or that there is no truth and only power and that pleasure should reign throughout the entire world.

00:08:27.000 Somebody's morality has to be implemented at some point.

00:08:31.000 And so the higher preference on this incredible preference on feelings is exactly how we get the transgender nonsense that is sweeping our country. 1.00

00:08:40.000 And if there is one issue where I just get passionate about is this satanic demonic movement that is going after our children, the most vulnerable in our society.

00:08:52.000 And, you know, I have to say, I think North Carolina was actually ahead of the curve in some ways, passing that bathroom bill.

00:09:00.000 What was it, eight years ago?

00:09:02.000 And one of the great failures of the conservative movement was not rallying to the defense of people that passed that bathroom bill here in North Carolina, because that was a good piece of legislation.

00:09:13.000 And it just got totally torpedoed by bad corporate interests.

00:09:16.000 And that was an, if I remember correctly, NCAA pulled out and it was all this other stuff.

00:09:21.000 I'm just drawing from memory on this.

00:09:24.000 But so if, so here's a good example of what happens if you follow your feelings.

00:09:28.000 Well, if an eight-year-old feels that they're a woman or feels they're a boy, should we take that seriously?

00:09:33.000 Of course not.

00:09:34.000 Because we as adults know better and we love those kids so much, we say, your feelings really don't matter.

00:09:39.000 We're not going to allow you to go into a surgical room and chop off your parts, which is happening, by the way, tens of thousands of kids across the country.

00:09:46.000 They're being administered irreversible sex change hormone therapy, Lupron, things that we don't even give rapists in certain states.

00:09:54.000 So feelings are quite honestly very irrelevant when it comes to creating public policy.

00:10:00.000 Because everyone can have different feelings in every way.

00:10:00.000 Why?

00:10:03.000 Someone may have a feeling about this and feeling about that.

00:10:05.000 You must be able to have agreed upon reason.

00:10:06.000 God gave us reason as a gift that says in Isaiah 1, let us reason together, right?

00:10:11.000 Now, we are more than just the mind.

00:10:13.000 The mind is not the whole being, right?

00:10:16.000 We have a soul as well, which I believe is actually the sovereign of our being.

00:10:19.000 And that's a Christian belief, that the soul is what eternal and the mind and the body go away.

00:10:24.000 But a lot of times, actually, feelings is driven by the flesh.

00:10:29.000 Feelings are like, well, I get really fired up.

00:10:31.000 I get really lustful.

00:10:32.000 You shouldn't make, or I get really jealous.

00:10:35.000 Instead, when you make decisions about public policy, your faith, your soul, and your mind should be what drives that.

00:10:41.000 But so, for example, if an 11-year-old comes up with a broomstick and the lid of a garbage can and says, I'm King Arthur, you say, no, you're not, actually.

00:10:51.000 Or I mean, you might play along, like, okay, that's cute, whatever.

00:10:54.000 But at the same time, do all of a sudden you say, yeah, you know what, you get a seat at the roundtable.

00:10:58.000 Of course, it's insane.

00:10:59.000 What we're doing now is we're saying, oh, you have a certain feeling because you're 13 years old.

00:11:04.000 And what it comes down to is what is true.

00:11:07.000 And that is why Christianity is the bedrock of any functioning civilization, okay?

00:11:12.000 We take this so for granted as Christians and as Americans.

00:11:16.000 Show me any other value system that has been able to create a civilization as powerful, as generous, as benevolent, as productive as Christianity has been able to create in the American context.

00:11:27.000 Never before has it happened because civilizations cannot last if they do not have truth as an anchoring principle.

00:11:33.000 If the churches remain silent and the pastor is afraid, then all of a sudden, as it says in the scriptures, people did what was ever right, what was ever right in their own eyes.

00:11:42.000 AKA moral relativism, subjectivism, which is what's reigning supreme right now in America.

00:11:48.000 You just said something, and I want to piggyback off of it, is this idea of America, who is actually in charge.

00:11:56.000 So they'll throw Romans 13 on you and go, you have to submit to anything that anybody says because they have a title.

00:12:03.000 They're governor, their president, their senator, blah, blah, blah.

00:12:06.000 And they ignore the whole rest of the passage.

00:12:06.000 So you have to do.

00:12:09.000 So our friend Rob McCoy does a great job on this, but I'm going to let you take off on that.

00:12:12.000 And let's talk about in America who is the sovereign.

00:12:16.000 Yeah, it's a great, great point.

00:12:17.000 So I'm going to tell you about the worst prediction ever made in American podcast history.

00:12:21.000 You guys ready for this?

00:12:22.000 I made the worst prediction ever.

00:12:23.000 Thank you guys who listen to my podcast and watch our show every day on Real America's Voice.

00:12:27.000 God bless you guys.

00:12:28.000 We really appreciate that.

00:12:29.000 But as a commentator and as someone that makes arguments, you got to be honest when you get things wrong.

00:12:34.000 And I got something really wrong in March of 2020.

00:12:37.000 Okay.

00:12:37.000 You guys can go back and you can look at it.

00:12:39.000 And I had this podcast title, which is basically this.

00:12:42.000 The American Church Loves Liberty.

00:12:46.000 And I was really wrong about that.

00:12:48.000 Because basically the whole premise I made is that the American church was going to resist these lockdowns, never be allowed to be called non-essential.

00:12:56.000 I thought the church was going to be marching in the streets.

00:12:58.000 I thought pastors were going to say, you know what?

00:13:00.000 No, we're not going to put up with this.

00:13:01.000 Meanwhile, you have strip clubs, liquor stores, marijuana clinics, and abortion factories open and Home Depot open.

00:13:08.000 I was so wrong.

00:13:11.000 And so I wrestled with that for a while.

00:13:13.000 And one of the scriptures that kept on getting thrown at me like a frisbee every time was Romans 13.

00:13:18.000 And I was somewhat familiar with it.

00:13:20.000 And it is the most extensive writing on politics in the New Testament written by Paul.

00:13:26.000 And I'm paraphrasing, but it says, submit to those who are in authority because God put them there for your good.

00:13:33.000 That's a fair paraphrasing or characterization.

00:13:35.000 Now, in the American framework, though, we must take a step back and ask ourselves the question, who is in authority in America?

00:13:43.000 So at the surface reading, a pastor says, well, the mayor is in authority or the city council is in authority or the...

00:13:50.000 No, no, no, no.

00:13:51.000 The founding fathers completely changed the game, where it's we, the people, that are actually in charge.

00:13:57.000 And so it's completely different.

00:14:00.000 And so every pastor that was quoting that, I have to say this lovingly, is that that was the theologically, that was theologically wrong in the American framework because instead it's the mayors, the city council, the governors who should have been submitting to us.

00:14:16.000 That's for them in the American context because the people are the sovereign.

00:14:21.000 And instead, it was used as an excuse to be able to take Easter away from us, Pentecost away from us, which resulted in the most depressed, suicidal, alcohol-addicted, and drug-addicted, and psychiatric addicted generation in history, the least religious generation in history. 0.51

00:14:35.000 I just want to paint a picture of what could have been, and you can't go back and do things, but you can correct error in the future and learn from it.

00:14:42.000 Imagine if the American church would have said, we're not doing these lockdowns.

00:14:45.000 The people are the sovereign.

00:14:47.000 I think a lot of the misery and suffering from young people that otherwise went to pornography, drugs, suicide, and hopelessness, what if the American church would have said, we're open for business, we're here to heal you, you know, by Jesus Christ, we're here to accept you.

00:15:00.000 We're here to show you compassion and love.

00:15:02.000 It could have been a revival because you know how I know this?

00:15:04.000 The churches that did open, they saw a revival happen in their doors, like this one, like Rob McCoy, like Jack Kibbs, like Steve Smotherman.

00:15:13.000 Instead, the churches became the spokesperson for the regime.

00:15:17.000 I'm saying it generally, okay?

00:15:18.000 There's some awesome pastors here tonight that I know some of you have go to great churches, but let's be honest.

00:15:23.000 The vast majority of churches coward in fear and were complicit.

00:15:26.000 That's a fact, okay?

00:15:27.000 The numbers speak for themselves.

00:15:29.000 It could have been, in my opinion, this great contrast against the regime of fear and propaganda, where all of a sudden the church could have said, look, make prudent decisions.

00:15:39.000 If you're over the age of 65, might not be the best thing to come.

00:15:42.000 Come.

00:15:42.000 But if you're 25 and you're alone, sitting in your apartment and you haven't seen anybody for 60 days, how about you come to church and meet somebody and you could find out that there is a God that loves you?

00:15:51.000 Imagine.

00:15:52.000 No, no, instead, we saw the exact opposite, right?

00:15:56.000 More fentanyl overdose than ever before, all that sort of stuff.

00:15:58.000 And I put that squarely at this: why what I'm talking about tonight, I think, is so critically important and so meaningful: is that if the church doesn't get educated on these topics, then we're very clumsy when all of a sudden the pressure and the crisis comes.

00:16:15.000 So the church acting or responding incorrectly in 2020 is because we did not do good enough legwork over the decades prior to educate the American pastors of who's the sovereign, who's actually in charge, what is tyranny.

00:16:29.000 And that's where I got it so wrong in 2020.

00:16:32.000 You see, as a political guy, I assumed that if you're in charge of a church, you have some idea of what happens when the government tells you to take freedom and liberty away. 0.99

00:16:40.000 Again, naive, foolish, young, all of that. 0.98

00:16:42.000 Boy, did I learn my lesson that most people have no idea. 1.00

00:16:45.000 In fact, the Bible speaks to this, right?

00:16:47.000 So the question that some of us should ask is: should people, do people want to be free?

00:16:57.000 Maybe.

00:16:58.000 Yeah, that's a question, right?

00:16:59.000 So sometimes.

00:17:01.000 So it depends on the context, depends on their upbringing.

00:17:03.000 It depends on a lot of different things.

00:17:06.000 So I don't think there's a right or wrong answer, but let's, I think that freedom is a value.

00:17:09.000 And if freedom is not properly taught, people forget it.

00:17:11.000 So let me give you an example, right?

00:17:13.000 So God delivers his chosen people from Egypt. 0.95

00:17:15.000 They're out in the wilderness, right?

00:17:16.000 They're there for like, I don't know, half a month, 30 days, and they start complaining.

00:17:22.000 This is biblical, right?

00:17:23.000 And they start saying, wait, what's going on here?

00:17:24.000 Remember, God, what did he do?

00:17:26.000 He flew quail off course, mana from heaven.

00:17:28.000 They have well-fed.

00:17:29.000 They do not need or want for anything.

00:17:31.000 They start complaining.

00:17:32.000 Who's this Moses guy? 0.96

00:17:34.000 What's going on here?

00:17:35.000 They said, quote, we want to go back to Egypt because at least we had meat.

00:17:43.000 What they were saying is we'd rather be slaves and eat well.

00:17:45.000 Yep.

00:17:46.000 So do people want to be free?

00:17:48.000 I think it's a tension.

00:17:49.000 I do.

00:17:50.000 I think that deep down there is a soul that wants to be free of eternal damnation, but our flesh that sometimes dominates our soul because we allow it to suppresses that.

00:18:00.000 And it happens far too often.

00:18:02.000 And so in 2020, I came to the conclusion: if you do not teach liberty as a value, then all of a sudden people are not going to demand it.

00:18:10.000 And so that's where the church has come in.

00:18:12.000 If the church is not teaching liberty as a value or freedom as a value, who's going to actually end up demanding that they would rather have free stuff, they live in a state of fear and they'd rather be controlled.

00:18:20.000 And so I don't think there's an easy answer.

00:18:22.000 Do people want to be free or not?

00:18:24.000 But generally, the lesson that I saw is that if you do not teach people what it means to be free and that pursuit of freedom, their result inclination is to sit out, sit at home and do nothing.

00:18:35.000 When you think about it, that's the flesh speaking.

00:18:38.000 And that's what dominated in the year 2020 and 2021.

00:18:41.000 Only the church can fix that.

00:18:43.000 You know, Peter was pretty close to Jesus, I think.

00:18:46.000 Peter?

00:18:46.000 Yeah.

00:18:46.000 Yeah, I would say so.

00:18:48.000 And he said, if we submit to those in authority, it's because they punish evil and they honor those who do good.

00:18:55.000 And I think as soon as we see people that are in authority that do not punish evil, then we know God didn't set them up.

00:19:03.000 Amen.

00:19:04.000 And I mean, it says in Psalm 97:10, if you love God, you must hate evil.

00:19:12.000 Oh, okay.

00:19:15.000 Hate evil.

00:19:16.000 I'll just reemphasize that.

00:19:19.000 Not people.

00:19:20.000 I was blessed with a few pastors ago, some of them were in here.

00:19:24.000 We went to Israel, and your good friend, pastor friend Rob McCoy, was with us.

00:19:29.000 We were standing over the valley of Elah where David fights Goliath.

00:19:33.000 And Rob McCoy makes a statement that literally has rocked my world.

00:19:39.000 Rob's statement was this.

00:19:40.000 The battle that is about to happen in this valley is not to determine who would be king, but who the next generation would serve.

00:19:51.000 Who was going to be king was already established.

00:19:53.000 God had already anointed David.

00:19:56.000 The battle was raging on who the next generation would serve.

00:20:01.000 So what I want you to do is talk to this.

00:20:04.000 You're all of 29, I think now.

00:20:07.000 You just had a birthday.

00:20:08.000 Happy birthday.

00:20:09.000 Thank you.

00:20:10.000 You're so, young.

00:20:16.000 But God has given you unique status in our nation.

00:20:19.000 Thank you.

00:20:20.000 And so would you talk to this group why it's so important that the fight that we're fighting is not to establish who's going to be king.

00:20:28.000 Jesus is king.

00:20:30.000 But who is the next generation going to serve in America? 0.83

00:20:34.000 Yeah, that's rule the whole ballgame, isn't it?

00:20:37.000 So I visit college campuses, so you don't have to.

00:20:40.000 And you're welcome, by the way.

00:20:42.000 And if you want hope, go look at the work our campus division is doing at Turning Point USA.

00:20:48.000 It's unbelievable what these kids have to go through every single day.

00:20:51.000 The bullying, the harassment, the physical intimidation.

00:20:55.000 They are fighting for truth.

00:20:56.000 They're fighting for America.

00:20:57.000 They're fighting for liberty.

00:20:58.000 They're fighting for freedom.

00:20:59.000 They're fighting for the Constitution.

00:21:00.000 When it's more difficult than ever, tomorrow night, I'll be speaking at UNCC Charlotte.

00:21:06.000 So that will be quite fun and interesting.

00:21:08.000 I'm sure they're already protesting, is what I'm told.

00:21:10.000 So, yeah, so I asked the question because it's about the next generation, right?

00:21:14.000 And so sometimes when I have extra time on my hands, which is, you know, never, but, you know, we keep a pretty fast pace.

00:21:21.000 But I always try to make time sometime during the semester, I've done this for the last two semesters, to set up a card table in the middle of the quad on a college campus and talk to kids and learn and listen and see.

00:21:30.000 And we film it too.

00:21:31.000 And some of you have probably seen those videos online, and they could be rather entertaining and fun, but they actually are very informative.

00:21:37.000 You could see where a generation is and what they believe morally.

00:21:41.000 And this is such a clear call for the church, and I'll tell you why in a second.

00:21:45.000 So recently I went to the University of Texas, Austin.

00:21:48.000 You might think it's conservative there.

00:21:49.000 It's not.

00:21:49.000 Austin is the opposite of conservative.

00:21:51.000 It is like Bolshevik Marxist USA, right? 0.69

00:21:54.000 So set up a card table, was there for two hours.

00:21:56.000 I did the same back in the spring at Berkeley.

00:21:58.000 I've been doing this for years, talking to kids.

00:22:00.000 And there has been a noticeable change in the philosophical and the moral approach of these kids.

00:22:06.000 And even the last five years, I've been doing it for 10 years.

00:22:08.000 The last five, I can start to see this.

00:22:09.000 And it's more, by the way, than just seeing a kid come up and ask a question at an event.

00:22:13.000 I'm talking about face-to-face.

00:22:14.000 You're talking to kids.

00:22:15.000 You're getting into ideas, which is it's this question of service.

00:22:18.000 Who are they serving and who do they have a duty to?

00:22:21.000 And without every single kid that is on the left, every single one believes they have a service to themselves and a duty to themselves.

00:22:29.000 And there is nothing else besides that.

00:22:32.000 That is it.

00:22:33.000 There is no service to God or to country.

00:22:36.000 There is no service to an ideal or to truth or to goodness or beauty.

00:22:39.000 In fact, it goes right down to, and they will repeat it time and time again.

00:22:43.000 And I have a heart for these people because they're in torment and misery because of this belief, is that I will say, well, you know, what about truth?

00:22:49.000 And they say, do you mean your truth or my truth?

00:22:52.000 And that right there is exactly what Satan would love to do to an entire generation.

00:22:58.000 And you could see them. 0.76

00:23:00.000 They say, well, you have your own truth as a white, cisgendered, heteronormative, colonialist American male. 0.94

00:23:08.000 And I have my truth as a black lesbian in a wheelchair, whatever it is, right? 0.77

00:23:14.000 Whatever sort of oppressed group that they want to claim.

00:23:16.000 And because it's kind of the oppression Olympics, that's the way it works on college campuses, right?

00:23:21.000 You keep score, and whoever's the most oppressed wins.

00:23:24.000 They get the gold medal. 0.98

00:23:25.000 And whoever's the least oppressed, I guess me, has to sit down and shut up, racist. 0.98

00:23:29.000 Like, okay, great.

00:23:31.000 And so, but it gets down to this question, which is what is true?

00:23:36.000 And this is where it drives me nuts when pastors are silent about this.

00:23:40.000 Every one of the political issues you see, every one of these things on the news is an outgrowth of whether or not we can get the question of is there truth or is there just power and pleasure and your opinion?

00:23:52.000 That's it.

00:23:52.000 Christianity makes a very bold claim.

00:23:55.000 It's the boldest claim of any religion on the planet because it's true. 1.00

00:23:59.000 There is a truth.

00:24:01.000 It's Jesus Christ and he is the way and the life and that is the only way to salvation.

00:24:06.000 That's a big claim. 1.00

00:24:08.000 Liar, a lunatic. 1.00

00:24:10.000 And other religions are a little bit more broad, right? 1.00

00:24:14.000 Buddhism, Taoists, oh, you know, you're just kind of a spirit and you reincarnate and there's many ways to get to nirvana or enlightenment.

00:24:20.000 No, no, Christianity is very clear.

00:24:23.000 The path is narrow, right?

00:24:25.000 And so from a civilizational context, the outgrowth is then, therefore, there are things that are true in harmony in the natural law.

00:24:35.000 And the natural law is designed by the Creator for us to be able to flourish.

00:24:38.000 If we follow the natural law, we're able to get closer to him and how he wants us to live.

00:24:42.000 When we disobey the natural law, we pay a price, okay?

00:24:45.000 The best example of the natural law that to explain to a kid is the Ten Commandments, okay?

00:24:49.000 Don't steal, don't cheat, don't murder, don't lie, don't covet, honor your mother and father so may live long in the land of which you're in, right?

00:24:55.000 Like we could go through the list, but essentially, the natural law is there to actually allow us to be able to break through our sinful nature, hopefully grow closer to him, obviously always falling short, but it's a way to live.

00:25:06.000 These students, though, who do they serve?

00:25:08.000 Basically, they're saying, I want to only serve myself.

00:25:12.000 I'm the most important thing in the world.

00:25:15.000 And that's exactly why they're killing themselves more than any other generation in the history of the world. 0.99

00:25:20.000 I hate to be so cruel and graphic, but if a generation is only thinking about themselves, well, then once things get bad, why not just turn the lights off?

00:25:28.000 And that's what they're doing.

00:25:29.000 It is by far the most suicidal generation ever, most depressed, most drug addicted, because it's so inward facing. 0.92

00:25:36.000 Where Christianity changes the game on your narcissistic, hedonistic nature. 0.99

00:25:41.000 It changes the game where it's about doing good for God, where it's service to the Lord, right?

00:25:48.000 It's spreading the good news.

00:25:50.000 And therefore, when you have a tough day, if you're tired and you're not feeling the best, you have to remind yourself it's not all about me.

00:26:00.000 Now, one of the ways that we've been able to break through this in generations past is like, okay, they're narcissistic when they're young, but once you start to get married and have kids, by definition, you have to start to serve others, right?

00:26:11.000 You realize it's really not all about you.

00:26:12.000 And we just had a baby girl eight weeks ago, which we're really thrilled about.

00:26:15.000 Congratulations.

00:26:16.000 Thank you.

00:26:18.000 And you learn really quick it's not all about you, right?

00:26:22.000 But it's the least married generation with the least children ever in the history.

00:26:25.000 Of course, it all makes sense, right?

00:26:26.000 It's about me.

00:26:28.000 And by the way, how is that any different than the abortion argument?

00:26:32.000 It's my choice.

00:26:33.000 I should be able to terminate another being because I'm the most important thing ever.

00:26:36.000 But when you invert the moral paradigm and you say, actually, that being is the same as you, you're both equal in the eyes of God.

00:26:44.000 Just because you're stronger and bigger, not in the womb, doesn't mean you have a moral right to obliterate that being.

00:26:51.000 Because it's not all about you, actually.

00:26:54.000 So who are they going to serve?

00:26:55.000 That's the question.

00:26:56.000 And if the church remains silent, this generation will serve themselves and serve Satan. 0.86

00:27:01.000 If the church rises up, they'll serve God for good and serve Jesus for the kingdom.

00:27:06.000 That's the question I have to say.

00:27:07.000 Amen.

00:27:08.000 Amen.

00:27:12.000 So in light of all of this that's brewing, obviously everyone is always telling us, well, the church, separation of church and state, and the church should not be involved in politics.

00:27:23.000 And a pastor should never preach politics, even though we've seen, especially on one side, they will actually get in the pulpit.

00:27:30.000 But that's another story.

00:27:31.000 Let me stay away from them.

00:27:35.000 Why is it so important for pastors and church people to get involved and to make a difference in our communities and not to sit on the sideline and just hope it gets better?

00:27:47.000 So a couple thoughts.

00:27:48.000 First, the Bible commands us to do it.

00:27:50.000 Jeremiah 29, 7, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.

00:27:56.000 Daniel, Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, and others were all counselors to secular government for God's purpose.

00:28:03.000 So unless you want to remove every single one of those people that cared about the government, cared about the political implications, then you're not on good theological standing for people that say that.

00:28:11.000 Zechariah 8, 16 and 17, direct orders demand justice, demand love in my name.

00:28:17.000 I'm paraphrasing the scripture, but there's direct orders to what to do politically.

00:28:21.000 But I do want to zero in on something you said about separation of church and state.

00:28:24.000 It's one of the great big lies in American Christianity. 0.99

00:28:28.000 Let's first talk about where that came from.

00:28:30.000 It was a single letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Convention.

00:28:34.000 One letter, not in the Federalist Papers, not in the Constitution, not in the Declaration, not in any of our founding documents.

00:28:40.000 But what did that letter actually say?

00:28:42.000 So the letter was actually a very interesting letter.

00:28:45.000 The Danbury Baptist Convention was increasingly worried that the Massachusetts state government was going to come after them.

00:28:52.000 So he was saying, don't worry, the government won't come after you because we're keeping them separate.

00:28:58.000 It's the opposite.

00:28:59.000 It was saying the government won't come after the church.

00:29:02.000 Now, that single letter was then misapplied to a series of court decisions made in the 1950s and 60s by the Warren Court and the Burger Court, the two worst courts in the last 100 years in American history, where they took the Ten Commandments away, prayer in schools, all of this, where they misapply this in a court decision saying separation of church and state.

00:29:22.000 Again, it's nowhere in our founding documents.

00:29:25.000 But then let's pretend it was.

00:29:28.000 Let's take the enemy at their word.

00:29:30.000 Let's pretend that we do have separation of church and state.

00:29:32.000 Then why on earth were they allowed to use the government to shut down churches during the pandemic?

00:29:38.000 I thought it was separation of church and state.

00:29:41.000 Oh, it's not separation of church and state.

00:29:43.000 It's Christians aren't allowed to get involved in government. 1.00

00:29:47.000 And we use the camouflage term of separation of church and state.

00:29:50.000 They've never believed that, okay?

00:29:52.000 Instead, they're trying to keep the church controlled.

00:29:55.000 They're trying to make it that Christians are not salt and light. 0.97

00:29:58.000 And this is where people say Christians shouldn't get involved in politics.

00:30:01.000 Christians should get involved in everything.

00:30:02.000 We should get involved in sports.

00:30:04.000 We should get involved in music.

00:30:05.000 We should get involved in business, get involved in industry.

00:30:08.000 Everyone has gifts.

00:30:09.000 And if someone's like, I'm a church-going Christian, I want to run for office.

00:30:12.000 God bless you.

00:30:13.000 We should support that person.

00:30:14.000 They're like, oh, they say politics is messy.

00:30:17.000 Everything is messy, man.

00:30:19.000 You're dealing with broken creatures.

00:30:20.000 The church is messy too, by the way, okay?

00:30:23.000 You're dealing with broken beings.

00:30:24.000 And so anyway, back to the idea of separation of church and state.

00:30:28.000 It's a huge lie.

00:30:29.000 We have to push back against it.

00:30:31.000 Since the founding of America, the founders had trust in a constitutional style government because they always thought the church would be the counselor to the king.

00:30:43.000 Not the king, but the counselor to the king.

00:30:46.000 So that's why they didn't have to build it into any of the outward mechanisms.

00:30:50.000 But by the way, every single one of the separation of powers, checks, and balances, independent judiciary, they're all Christian.

00:30:54.000 They're all biblical.

00:30:55.000 For example, Isaiah 33, 22, I might be off.

00:30:58.000 It might be 22, 33.

00:30:59.000 I might be dyslexic.

00:31:00.000 But anyway, so offer me some forgiveness there.

00:31:02.000 But it basically says God is the king.

00:31:03.000 He's the interpreter of laws.

00:31:05.000 He's the maker of laws.

00:31:06.000 I wonder where that is.

00:31:08.000 Oh, you mean the executive branch, the judicial branch, the legislative branch?

00:31:11.000 And the founding fathers wrote in the Federalist Papers, only God should have the power of those three branches.

00:31:15.000 So they made it intentional to separate those three.

00:31:17.000 First government in human history ever do that.

00:31:20.000 Consent to the governed, right, comes right out of Isaiah as well.

00:31:24.000 Independent judiciary comes right out of Leviticus, right?

00:31:26.000 So everyone, and by the way, people that, you want to know how awesome the founding fathers were?

00:31:31.000 They put Leviticus on the liberty bell, okay?

00:31:34.000 Leviticus, not Proverbs, not John, Leviticus, okay?

00:31:39.000 Let liberty reign throughout the land that you are in, or proclaim liberty throughout the land of which you are in.

00:31:44.000 And so, look, it offends the secular left when I say this.

00:31:48.000 I'm going to say it slowly and intentionally and repeatedly.

00:31:52.000 America was founded by Christians and was a Christian country once.

00:31:56.000 I still think we are as far as our body politic, and we should be unafraid of owning the fact.

00:32:01.000 And here's the only question you should ask: the secularist: if America was not Christian, do you think we would have ever founded the country the way we did? 0.74

00:32:11.000 And it's not even an answer of no.

00:32:13.000 It's no way.

00:32:14.000 Only Christians taught by George Whitfield, Jonathan Edwards, Jonathan Mayhew, the Black Robe Regiment, 40,000 open-air sermons that led into 1776.

00:32:24.000 Only Christians would have had the courage, would have had the vision to be able to say, We get our rights from God, not King George. 0.88

00:32:33.000 Absolutely.

00:32:39.000 Where's my daughter, Danielle?

00:32:43.000 She's back in the booth.

00:32:44.000 Today happens to be her birthday.

00:32:46.000 Oh, happy birthday.

00:32:49.000 But I want to lead into something because I think we as Christians, we lose our arguments so many times because we're not willing to tell our stories.

00:32:57.000 So my wife's on the front row, when she was carrying her, she was told to abort her.

00:33:04.000 And so we had to have a discussion.

00:33:05.000 The doctor said she's not going to be right.

00:33:08.000 And so we had a discussion and said, whatever it is, we're going to put it in God's hands and we're going to trust.

00:33:15.000 So here we are, 28 years later, and her only problem is she's a barley. 1.00

00:33:20.000 And that's her biggest problem.

00:33:27.000 But sadly, the church, when it comes to things like abortion and other things like that, we fail to tell our story.

00:33:34.000 And so we let them dictate to us how to tell it.

00:33:38.000 So what would you say to the church about it's time to stand up and tell the story that needs to be told?

00:33:43.000 Yeah, I mean, amen.

00:33:44.000 What if Jesus was aborted?

00:33:46.000 I mean, that's a pretty simple story, right?

00:33:49.000 I mean, Jesus came into this world into a womb and was developed.

00:33:53.000 Was he not human when he was developing?

00:33:55.000 Of course he was.

00:33:56.000 Divine and human.

00:33:58.000 And so, but to answer, also, I just want to make a side point on that.

00:34:01.000 I hear stories all the time, and I don't know the date on this.

00:34:03.000 I'll look into it.

00:34:04.000 I'm sure it's really hard to measure.

00:34:05.000 All the time of parents that were told by OBs that there were going to be all these complications with their kids.

00:34:10.000 By the way, who cares if there's complications?

00:34:12.000 That is not reason to terminate your child, okay?

00:34:15.000 And by, and the media is so sick. 0.99

00:34:18.000 They're so sick. 0.97

00:34:20.000 If you ever want to see how sick the media is, go look up Iceland Down syndrome abortion. 0.99

00:34:25.000 Just type in those words.

00:34:26.000 And they brag about how Iceland has basically abolished Down syndrome through genetic sex, genetic selective abortion.

00:34:35.000 They test for it and they all but mandate it.

00:34:37.000 I don't know if they do or not, but they basically have made it such a pressure campaign that these people are a drain on society.

00:34:44.000 Now, interestingly enough, I had an atheist come up to an event last week at Kansas City and I asked him, I said, what would the atheist argument against terminating Down syndrome babies be?

00:34:53.000 And there is no atheistic argument, right? 0.99

00:34:56.000 It's actually in their viewpoint, you might as well get rid of them because they're parasites, right? 1.00

00:34:59.000 They can't perform on their own. 1.00

00:35:01.000 They can't produce their own food.

00:35:03.000 You might as well get rid of them.

00:35:04.000 Only a Christian country would say, no, those are beautiful gifts from God, worthy of our protection, no matter what, because you could judge a country based on what they do as strength. 0.98

00:35:13.000 Okay?

00:35:14.000 Every country has strength.

00:35:15.000 You have to have power.

00:35:17.000 We as humans operate in hierarchies, okay?

00:35:20.000 You're going to have people bigger than others.

00:35:21.000 You're going to have people stronger, people smarter.

00:35:23.000 The question is, what do you do once you're at the top of a hierarchy?

00:35:25.000 Okay.

00:35:26.000 This idea that communists have that.

00:35:27.000 And we're going to get rid of hierarchies.

00:35:28.000 Like that's stamotic. 1.00

00:35:29.000 It's stupid. 1.00

00:35:30.000 It's never going to happen. 1.00

00:35:30.000 Okay. 1.00

00:35:31.000 It's a lie from the pit of hell.

00:35:32.000 So you're going to have hierarchies.

00:35:33.000 A Christian country uses strength to protect the weak. 1.00

00:35:37.000 A non-Christian country uses strength to crush the weak. 1.00

00:35:41.000 That's it.

00:35:42.000 And so, by the way, if through an atheistic construct, what would be the argument to protecting the weak?

00:35:47.000 There is none.

00:35:48.000 That is why Stalin killed 40 million people and Mao killed 30 million people. 1.00

00:35:52.000 That's why they have Down syndrome abortions in Iceland because they're just parasites. 1.00

00:35:56.000 Get rid of them. 0.99

00:35:58.000 You get eugenics very quickly through that kind of construct. 0.91

00:36:00.000 Okay, but to tell the stories, I just want to say it happens so often when parents come up to me and they said, ROB said, all that, dah.

00:36:09.000 And it's really, I wonder.

00:36:11.000 I bet there's, I bet there's, I mean, this is just a guess, tens of thousands of abortions every single year on testing flaws.

00:36:18.000 In fact, there was a New York Times article a year and a half ago that said that I might get my terms on prenatal genetic testing actually has a margin of error between 10 to 15 percent, something like that.

00:36:29.000 Like, wow, that's a pretty big deal of people that are getting bad information and then making abortion decisions after that.

00:36:29.000 So you just think about that.

00:36:36.000 Okay, but to answer your question, look, I'm enthusiastically pro-life.

00:36:40.000 I don't care what people call me.

00:36:42.000 I invite the disagreement.

00:36:44.000 I invite the arguments about it.

00:36:47.000 And I think it just is a question of the American church.

00:36:49.000 What is your stomach for the tough fights, right?

00:36:52.000 Life begins at conception, period.

00:36:54.000 We have to defend it regardless of what community you're in, regardless of where you are in the country.

00:36:59.000 All life is precious and sacred.

00:37:01.000 And the church should be the loudest on this.

00:37:03.000 And of course, I always say this.

00:37:04.000 We also should be expanding our services and our charitable endeavors to be able to make sure that people are warmly accepted when they have children.

00:37:13.000 They say, oh, unwanted pregnancy, that's nonsense.

00:37:15.000 There's such a thing as an unwanted pregnancy. 0.93

00:37:17.000 There is no such thing.

00:37:18.000 There's 2 million people on the adoption waiting list in America, and there's a million abortions every single year.

00:37:22.000 So there's two times the amount of families that want to adopt right now than abortions that happen every single year. 0.77

00:37:28.000 There's no such thing as an unwanted pregnancy.

00:37:30.000 And by the way, if your pastor remains silent after the reversal of Roe versus Wade, I say this lovingly, you should challenge that pastor.

00:37:37.000 And if they do not repent or acknowledge that, you got to find a new pastor because the repeal of Roe versus Wade was one of the great victories for the natural law.

00:37:48.000 And just to give you an example, 30,000 babies in Texas since the repeal of Roe versus Wade are living today.

00:37:55.000 Thanks to the repeal of Roe versus Wade.

00:37:57.000 30,000.

00:37:58.000 Hallelujah.

00:37:59.000 Awesome.

00:38:01.000 Let's change a little bit.

00:38:03.000 I'm a former public school teacher.

00:38:05.000 I know you love education.

00:38:07.000 And in our rural areas, we're still pretty fortunate.

00:38:09.000 Our elementary, middle, and high school are still doing a great job.

00:38:13.000 We have some strong, moral, godly teachers, educators, even our, well, we got a few woke ones, but I mean, it's not often.

00:38:23.000 Our community college does an incredible job in preparing many to go right into the workforce and vocational specialized skills.

00:38:33.000 However, the national university system is pretty much bankrupt morally.

00:38:40.000 And so we send our kids there because we have convinced everybody you got to have this university degree.

00:38:47.000 And then they come back to us a lot of times against everything we've taught.

00:38:52.000 So as a very, young man that's willing to go on these college campuses and converse with them and challenge and debate these universities, what would you say to the teachers and administrators on our rural areas that still are strong Christians and still strong morals, even if they aren't Christians, still have strong morality.

00:39:14.000 What would you say to these teachers, homeschool teachers, private school, our charter schools?

00:39:20.000 What would you say to them as it relates to what you're seeing coming down the pipe from a national level?

00:39:25.000 Well, first, God bless you for being a teacher and standing for truth.

00:39:28.000 We don't have enough of it.

00:39:28.000 It's so incredible.

00:39:29.000 It's really important.

00:39:31.000 And I get attacked by the media as being anti-education.

00:39:35.000 That's not true.

00:39:36.000 I'm very, obviously very pro-education.

00:39:37.000 I love reading, love learning.

00:39:39.000 That's why I'm against college, by the way, for most people, because learning is not happening at most universities.

00:39:44.000 They're not.

00:39:44.000 And I say that as someone who has visited over 150 colleges.

00:39:48.000 We have a very big presence.

00:39:50.000 Now, I don't want to generalize, okay?

00:39:52.000 I would say this: most young people should not be going to college.

00:39:56.000 Some should, okay?

00:39:57.000 If you want to be a doctor or a lawyer or an accountant, graduate as quickly as possible and get your degree and hope they don't indoctrinate you.

00:40:03.000 But the vast majority of people that go into college, the numbers show us this.

00:40:06.000 First of this, 41% of people that go to college drop out.

00:40:09.000 41%.

00:40:10.000 Now, boy, if you and I went out into the restaurant locally here, I said, and I asked you how it was, she said, food is great, but you had a 41% chance getting food poisoning.

00:40:18.000 I'd say, yeah, I don't think that restaurant should remain open.

00:40:22.000 That's the American college system.

00:40:24.000 41% of people that enter are poor with no degree after they enroll and they spend all that money and all that time and all of that.

00:40:31.000 So that should be the first wake-up call.

00:40:33.000 The second wake-up call is that the vast majority of people that, if they end up graduating at all, and if they get a job, they find jobs that do not require college degrees at all.

00:40:43.000 They'll end up actually going into jobs that have no requirement for a college degree.

00:40:47.000 And by the way, all of that to say, and I wrote a whole book on this called The College Scam.

00:40:51.000 I think we have some copies out in the lobby.

00:40:54.000 It's the most detailed book I've ever written.

00:40:56.000 Okay.

00:40:56.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:40:57.000 You guys can, for a gift of any amount, you guys can get the book.

00:41:00.000 We have it out there.

00:41:01.000 I think the team is really fast.

00:41:02.000 You got a great AV team here.

00:41:03.000 I got to tell you.

00:41:04.000 They're wonderful.

00:41:04.000 Give them a job.

00:41:06.000 Yeah, I'm going to shout out.

00:41:06.000 That was really impressive.

00:41:09.000 That was slick.

00:41:11.000 So if you've got, afterwards, you guys can go up to the booth, donation of any amount.

00:41:15.000 You guys get our great reset book, Response to the Great Reset, Christian Response Great Reset, also the College Scam.

00:41:20.000 Five bucks, two bucks, one dollar, twenty dollars, thirty dollars.

00:41:23.000 I just want you to have the book.

00:41:23.000 I think it's super important for kids and grandkids.

00:41:26.000 35 pages of footnotes I put into this book.

00:41:28.000 I spent five years on it because it's not a topic I tread lightly.

00:41:31.000 And anyone that was a skeptic that reads the book, they don't agree with all of it.

00:41:34.000 They say, you make a pretty detailed case.

00:41:37.000 And I have to say, we do.

00:41:39.000 And I go through it every single way.

00:41:41.000 But let me focus on one that I think will really challenge parents here because I could talk about the financial aspect of the political.

00:41:47.000 But if you want your child to have a high likelihood of becoming an atheist, send them to college. 1.00

00:41:53.000 They are evangelistic atheists on campuses.

00:41:56.000 It is a morality and an ideology of hedonism, of pleasure seeking.

00:42:01.000 And you might say, well, my kid is not going to fall victim to that.

00:42:05.000 Okay, then I'm glad you're that confident.

00:42:08.000 But I meet a lot of people, right?

00:42:10.000 Just this last weekend, I think I did a picture.

00:42:12.000 How long was that picture line?

00:42:13.000 4,000 people.

00:42:14.000 I think I stood there for three hours.

00:42:16.000 It was great.

00:42:17.000 But I'd say probably 40 or 50 people come up to me and they're awesome.

00:42:20.000 And they say, Charlie, I love the show.

00:42:21.000 Listen to you, blah, blah, blah.

00:42:22.000 I say, but I have a problem.

00:42:23.000 And I know what they're going to say before they say it.

00:42:24.000 And they say, my kids don't share my values.

00:42:26.000 And I always answer the same way.

00:42:27.000 Where did they go to college?

00:42:29.000 Right?

00:42:29.000 And they say they went to this school.

00:42:30.000 And by the way, there's no rhyme or reason, private, public, state, it doesn't matter, right?

00:42:33.000 Now, there are some exceptions.

00:42:35.000 Hillsdale College is awesome.

00:42:36.000 Marinantha Baptist is great.

00:42:38.000 There's a couple of good ones, but they're few and far in between.

00:42:41.000 And so you have to, everything in life is a risk, okay?

00:42:43.000 We all know that.

00:42:44.000 But you must be realistic that when you send your kid maybe to Duke or you send your kid to Wake Forest or you send your kid to App State or you send your kid to NC State, that you're playing Russian roulette with their values and that they might come back with some completely different worldview that very well might be irreversible.

00:43:03.000 And that you say, well, Charlie, then what?

00:43:05.000 What do I do?

00:43:06.000 Because my kid needs to have a flourishing career.

00:43:08.000 Well, that's why the financial argument I make in the book is so important, right?

00:43:11.000 Which is that you would be shocked to learn they actually don't need that piece of paper as much as you think they need that piece of paper, okay?

00:43:17.000 Let's just go through the facts.

00:43:18.000 We have a shortage of plumbers, electricians, carpenters, and welders in our country, a mass shortage.

00:43:24.000 We need more entrepreneurs.

00:43:25.000 We need more people in the muscular class in our country and less people studying North African lesbian poetry and learning about and learning about whatever it is they learn in postmodern philosophy. 0.87

00:43:45.000 I think that says it will.

00:43:47.000 Thank you.

00:43:48.000 So everything in life is a risk.

00:43:50.000 I try to have some nuance when I talk about this.

00:43:52.000 I do believe college is a scam.

00:43:54.000 If you have an exceptional young person in your life and you're like, I want to be an accountant more than anything else.

00:43:58.000 Now, if they're on fire at age 17 to be an accountant, okay.

00:44:05.000 They must really love numbers.

00:44:08.000 But that's great.

00:44:09.000 If they want to be a doctor or a lawyer, whatever, they have a passion for something, then find them a school that can be cost affordable, hopefully not as woke.

00:44:15.000 Keep your eyes on them.

00:44:16.000 Get them involved with the Turning Point Chapter.

00:44:18.000 We're happy to assist them.

00:44:19.000 I totally understand that.

00:44:21.000 But here's the worst thing.

00:44:22.000 If you have a 17 or 18 year old that was like how I was in high school, that didn't get into their dream school and they don't have a good reason to go.

00:44:30.000 Have them do a gap year.

00:44:32.000 I've taken a gap year.

00:44:33.000 I'm now on my 11th gap year.

00:44:34.000 It's awesome.

00:44:38.000 It's great.

00:44:40.000 And here's the thing.

00:44:41.000 You've got to understand, though, that you are going to be treated differently if you don't get the piece of paper.

00:44:45.000 And if there's one thing I try to do in my career, there's one thing I try to do in my book, is I try to be a shield. 0.99

00:44:50.000 I try to be a reference point for every person that is called dumb and stupid for not having the piece of paper. 0.98

00:44:55.000 It is so culturally wrong. 0.99

00:44:57.000 It is evil the way we treat people that don't go to college. 1.00

00:45:00.000 We treat them as dumb and stupid and that they're not as enlightened. 0.99

00:45:04.000 And if there's one thing I could do, I would love to be just one person where they can say, well, Charlie didn't go and he's done something in his life. 0.99

00:45:10.000 I would love to be a stand-in in that way and hopefully a role model for some kid out there that has a dream to start a business or to do something because I still get it.

00:45:17.000 People come up and say, well, Charlie, when are you going to go back to school?

00:45:19.000 And you could really accomplish something in your life.

00:45:23.000 It's like baked in, right?

00:45:24.000 It's like an expectation.

00:45:25.000 It's like, once you get the piece of paper, I'll take you seriously.

00:45:28.000 And that's fine.

00:45:30.000 You know, I'll take it in stride.

00:45:31.000 But it really is a structural problem in our country.

00:45:34.000 I'll close with this kind of topic on this, which is one of the reasons America is increasingly less free, more depressed, less religious, less Christian, and less happy in all these regards is because of college.

00:45:45.000 Let me say something from a church perspective.

00:45:47.000 And everybody in here may, you pastors may already be doing it.

00:45:51.000 But I got convicted, I think it was two years ago.

00:45:54.000 We recognize our graduates.

00:45:56.000 So high school graduates, we should.

00:45:58.000 And then we would recognize our college graduates.

00:46:01.000 And all of a sudden, one year it hit me, you know who I wasn't recognizing?

00:46:08.000 The kid that four years ago went to work.

00:46:11.000 I wasn't honoring him.

00:46:12.000 I wasn't saying, hey, you became a police officer.

00:46:14.000 You became a fireman.

00:46:15.000 You did this, this, and this.

00:46:17.000 And so we changed here at Sunset Avenue to say, if four years ago you did X, Y, and Z, we're going to celebrate you too.

00:46:27.000 Let's talk a little bit about the narrative that drives us a lot.

00:46:31.000 And obviously, we're driven so much by the national narrative.

00:46:34.000 And many times we don't even know our local narrative.

00:46:38.000 And I'll give you an example.

00:46:39.000 When the defund the police hit, and the accusation was that our police officers were hunting black individuals and killing people, we had some people here protesting and made our police officers stay up, you know, and not be on their routine and away from their families.

00:46:57.000 And so I would ask people this question.

00:47:00.000 When was the last time in Asheboro a policeman shot a black man?

00:47:07.000 And nobody could answer.

00:47:11.000 Going back 60 years, and the answer is zero.

00:47:15.000 But we're driven by the national narrative, and nobody asks our narrative in our local area.

00:47:22.000 So what would you say to rural America about not getting caught up in these national brouhahas that don't mean anything and bringing it into our and then punishing our own policemen and making them feel like they're not worthy in other areas?

00:47:37.000 Well, I might get you in trouble for this, so I apologize in advance, but okay, good.

00:47:41.000 So look, I hate talking about race.

00:47:43.000 I do.

00:47:44.000 I hate it because I don't think race matters at all.

00:47:47.000 I think it's, I think I hate the whole conversation around it.

00:47:50.000 But I have to say this next part that might get me in trouble.

00:47:53.000 There is a deliberate and venomous anti-white campaign in our country, and it drives me crazy, and we shouldn't put up with it. 0.92

00:47:58.000 It is evil from the pit of hell when they're going out on television saying whiteness this and whiteness that. 0.97

00:48:03.000 It would be wrong if you replaced any other race. 1.00

00:48:06.000 So my message to rural America in just that regard, which is overwhelmingly white, is you shouldn't put up with it. 1.00

00:48:11.000 It is racism.

00:48:12.000 It is wrong.

00:48:13.000 It is bigotry.

00:48:14.000 It's being taught in our schools.

00:48:15.000 And so just, I had to say that, and the media is nuts when I talk about anti-whiteness.

00:48:19.000 It's true.

00:48:20.000 It exists institutionally in more ways than one.

00:48:23.000 Okay, so let me ask, answer one part of it, which is really interesting.

00:48:27.000 So there was a public opinion poll where they asked, how many unarmed black men do you think are killed by police nationally every single year?

00:48:37.000 And by the police, you know, by the people that self-identify as liberal would say, oh, 1,000, 1,800, 1,500, 2,000, 5,000, right?

00:48:47.000 It's 11 to 14.

00:48:49.000 It's somewhere between that, depending how someone shouted out the answer preemptively.

00:48:52.000 But it's about 12, okay?

00:48:54.000 12 people.

00:48:55.000 And by the way, out of those 12 examples, some are pretty questionable.

00:48:58.000 Like they were trying to run over a police officer in their car.

00:49:01.000 They were grabbing for the weapon, right?

00:49:03.000 They had something that looked identical to a gun.

00:49:05.000 It was a toy gun, but all sorts of stuff.

00:49:07.000 So you're talking, let's just pretend the number is 15.

00:49:10.000 So with 300 million police encounters in our country every single year, we're tearing ourselves apart for 15 incidents.

00:49:18.000 How often do you hear that on television?

00:49:20.000 No, it's because, and this is one of my big things with churches and pastors, is not only did we lock down in 2020, but once Floyd de Palooza started and we decided to burn everything down and we decided to rip ourselves apart under the bitter lie from the pit of hell that America is systemically racist, when in reality, we're the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:49:38.000 And we are the best to each other, regardless of race, and we get no credit for that.

00:49:44.000 Go travel to Brazil.

00:49:45.000 You want to go see racism?

00:49:46.000 Go to Europe, okay?

00:49:48.000 Go talk to someone from France or Italy or Greece or Eastern Europe.

00:49:52.000 I mean, their ideas of race are completely, go talk to someone from Japan. 0.99

00:49:56.000 We are the least racist country ever to exist.

00:49:58.000 So I hold the line really firmly on that.

00:50:00.000 And I think I wish the church would as well.

00:50:01.000 And the churches are doing, we need to do racial reconciliation.

00:50:04.000 What are you talking about?

00:50:05.000 How about you just spend like, I don't know, half hour on like how black fathers need to get back in the home before you start preaching to white people about racial reconciliation? 0.64

00:50:14.000 Like, oh, no, well, we're really institutionally racist and we don't realize it.

00:50:17.000 How?

00:50:17.000 How are we systemically racist exactly?

00:50:19.000 We have an entire month dedicated to blackness. 1.00

00:50:23.000 We have affirmative action hiring quotas.

00:50:26.000 United Airlines says they want to have 50% of their new pilots to be black.

00:50:29.000 Anyway, the whole point is that this is a campaign nonstop around an anti-whiteness regime, which is racism.

00:50:35.000 We shouldn't put up with it.

00:50:36.000 I want to get back to a colorblind America and you should too. 0.96

00:50:39.000 I think that is an ideal.

00:50:41.000 I think it's a Christian ideal.

00:50:42.000 I don't care about your race and no pastor should either.

00:50:47.000 So the narrative that we come up with should be the one that is true, not the one that is being driven by an evil regime that says, hey, okay.

00:50:55.000 Let's do a little wokeism before we quit. 0.97

00:50:58.000 A little wokeism.

00:51:00.000 And then we have some questions.

00:51:02.000 Let me do an example in this fellowship.

00:51:05.000 Twenty-man in our fellowship is fighting cancer.

00:51:08.000 Okay.

00:51:08.000 And he went to a local university hospital, not local as in the county, but in the region.

00:51:13.000 And the doctor ordered a pregnancy test for him.

00:51:23.000 True.

00:51:24.000 He caught it.

00:51:25.000 He challenged it.

00:51:26.000 As far as we know, they didn't have the test.

00:51:29.000 He did say to the doctor, you know, in every class, somebody has to be last.

00:51:38.000 And I'm assuming in your class, it was you.

00:51:43.000 Here's my point.

00:51:44.000 I want to talk about the impact of wokeism throughout our culture.

00:51:48.000 Because in this case, had they run the test, it would have affected his deductible and affected his insurance.

00:51:54.000 He would have paid for it.

00:51:56.000 We fought, you brought the so-called bathroom bill. 1.00

00:51:59.000 So because we stood up, it did cost us.

00:52:03.000 The NBA didn't bring their all-star game, which is a terrible game anyway, so it was all right.

00:52:10.000 Men competing in women's sports.

00:52:12.000 Wokeism is costing us.

00:52:14.000 President Biden, I think, today said that states should not be allowed to ban mutilating our children.

00:52:20.000 Now, they twist it and call it gender-affirming care.

00:52:25.000 So from your perspective, you're on the cutting edge of this.

00:52:29.000 To rule America, what would you say?

00:52:31.000 How is wokeism impacting us daily?

00:52:34.000 And why and how should we stand up to these evils?

00:52:37.000 Yeah, I mean, this is the whole ballgame.

00:52:39.000 If there's kind of one topic we've created a movement against, and I think that we're more better positioned to talk about, it's this topic.

00:52:46.000 We're well read on it.

00:52:47.000 We're well researched, and we fight hard against it.

00:52:49.000 So let me tell you what, where does this term woke come from?

00:52:51.000 I'm sure a lot of you probably wonder that, like, what the heck does this mean?

00:52:54.000 Let me kind of actually give you a little background.

00:52:55.000 Maybe you already know.

00:52:56.000 So let's go back to Karl Marx, right?

00:52:58.000 Karl Marx believed that there was economic struggle in society, bourgeoisie versus the proletariat, business owners versus labor, right?

00:53:05.000 That there was always tension economically.

00:53:07.000 Okay, so he built the entire communist manifesto around this.

00:53:10.000 Obviously, Das Kapital, it was applied in the Soviet Union, not really, but it started a lot of communist movements in the 1900s.

00:53:18.000 Fast forward, there was a very sliver radical group of revolutionaries at what was called the Frankfurt School in Germany.

00:53:24.000 They were Marxists.

00:53:25.000 They were communists.

00:53:27.000 They defected from Germany and came to America.

00:53:29.000 One of them, the leader of this school, was a guy by the name of Herbert Marcuse, came to America, and he wanted to start a communist revolution here in America.

00:53:39.000 But he started to look and saw in America that there was a flourishing middle class, that actually normal everyday people were getting their, they were seeing their lives and their incomes improve over a period of time, and that communism and Marxism kind of falls flat because people's standard of living was increasing.

00:53:57.000 He also noted, by the way, that the American pastors weren't putting up with communism.

00:54:01.000 It was very interesting.

00:54:02.000 Marcuse came here and he basically said, Billy Graham won't put up with our revolution.

00:54:07.000 Boy, have times changed, haven't they?

00:54:08.000 So he devised a new construct, okay?

00:54:12.000 And he wasn't the only one that did this, but he really was the pioneer.

00:54:15.000 So he took Marx's economic theory of conflict, rich people or business owners versus employees.

00:54:22.000 And he said, why can't we apply this to other parts of society?

00:54:27.000 For example, women against men. 0.86

00:54:29.000 Men are really on top, just like the business owners are, and then women are being suppressed or oppressed, right? 1.00

00:54:35.000 But then the one that really kind of caught fire was he said, we're going to start a Marxist revolution, not with the women that might work, not with business owners, no, but with blacks.

00:54:45.000 And he said, the way we're going to do this is we're going to bring back all the racial tension and argue that there is a framework of which the entire society is designed, and it's not the bourgeoisie versus the proletariat, but it's white versus black.

00:55:00.000 And that whether no matter how hard you try, there is systemic and institutional racism in every corner, all throughout society, and there's nothing you could do to get rid of it except be enlightened or realize awokened, awoke to the systemic injustices around you.

00:55:16.000 That's where that term comes from.

00:55:18.000 He says that you are now seeing things through the prism.

00:55:21.000 You are woke to that you and me sitting here is some sort of a colonialist white supremacist exercise, right?

00:55:28.000 And by the way, you go read their literature in the book One Dimensional Man, which is satanic and demonic.

00:55:33.000 I don't use that word lightly.

00:55:34.000 Herbert Marcuse writes about how everyone has their own truth, how there is no truth, there is no agreed upon principles for society, all this stuff.

00:55:40.000 He had a couple disciples, Michelle Foucault and Jacques Derrida.

00:55:43.000 Anyway, this thing was a fringe ideology in the universities, okay?

00:55:47.000 Then Derek Bell writes intro to critical race theory in the 1990s.

00:55:51.000 And then basically this populated up very slowly and quietly into the highest levels of the academy, where then in the early 2000s, post-Occupy Wall Street, because they tried a Marxist revolution in this country with Occupy Wall Street, and it failed terribly.

00:56:06.000 Remember, Occupy Wall Street, you know, tax the rich, take money away.

00:56:09.000 It just didn't work.

00:56:10.000 It turns out people like their middle-income jobs and they like the, they're like, I don't know, but we want to get rid of our system.

00:56:15.000 But with race, they found something that they could pinpoint: white guilt.

00:56:23.000 They found an entire population that was unnecessarily guilty for their melanin content because they were told to be.

00:56:31.000 And they seized on it.

00:56:33.000 So this movement that started in the 60s by Herbert Marcuse was implemented immediately.

00:56:38.000 And white America was either silent and afraid or complicit and partners in it, where they're like, well, I don't want to be one of the non-white allies in this. 0.94

00:56:48.000 And so this idea, let me just define terms.

00:56:51.000 If you guys want to know the best way to define critical race theory, it's this.

00:56:54.000 You're going to find all your friends.

00:56:55.000 Critical race theory is calling everything racist until you control it.

00:57:00.000 That's critical race theory.

00:57:02.000 It's not about liberation, it's about control.

00:57:05.000 Like the military call everything racist and now they control the military.

00:57:09.000 Like Wall Street, call everything racist, now they control Wall Street.

00:57:12.000 You get the point, right?

00:57:13.000 Now, this idea of wokeism has now become kind of a basket catch-all term for the other kind of tributary cousins of Herbert Marcuse's 1960s insidious ideology of since we now think that power dynamics exist everywhere and anyone can be anything they want, it now applies to the transgender stuff.

00:57:32.000 It applies to all this different nonsense where you can, as a man, become pregnant. 0.91

00:57:38.000 And the vast majority of people I talk to on college campuses, if I ask them the question, do you believe men menstruate?

00:57:45.000 They said they can.

00:57:48.000 And it's a matter of the will.

00:57:50.000 It's a matter of, I'm going to take dominion over nature for my own purposes.

00:57:56.000 I'm going to become my own God in my own eyes, right?

00:57:59.000 And so what does this mean for rural America?

00:58:01.000 Man, this is the whole ballgame.

00:58:03.000 And they're seizing on white guilt and this unnecessary.

00:58:07.000 And by the way, this is a black economist who came up with the term white guilt, Shelby Steele, who said there's been more damage done in America of white America thinking they have to apologize to blacks and give all this money for no reason whatsoever.

00:58:21.000 Now, let me be clear: if there's a racist here tonight and you've been awful, you should apologize, find, you know, repent to Jesus Christ and make it right. 0.89

00:58:28.000 But if you just happen to be a white person going about your business, you have nothing to apologize for. 0.61

00:58:32.000 Nothing.

00:58:33.000 And so you asked about rural America, what our message should be.

00:58:36.000 But I cannot re-emphasize this theme enough, which is wokeism, post-structuralism, post-modernism. 0.96

00:58:43.000 It is a parasite. 0.84

00:58:45.000 And I say this and it drives the media nuts every time I say this. 0.99

00:58:49.000 Wokeism is going to do more damage than COVID-19 ever did.

00:58:55.000 In 2020, you had two viruses that spread.

00:58:58.000 COVID-19 that did kill a lot of people.

00:59:01.000 Wokeism will destroy everything.

00:59:03.000 I'm telling you, it is a pathogen. 0.84

00:59:06.000 It is a mind virus that will make everything that is functioning and decent.

00:59:10.000 So, let me give you an example. 0.97

00:59:12.000 That kind of pregnancy test for a man, silly example. 1.00

00:59:16.000 Okay, what is then, how about medicine through equity? 0.94

00:59:20.000 Do you know that monoclonal antibodies in New York City throughout the pandemic were given preference to black people over white people?

00:59:27.000 That's a fact.

00:59:28.000 They have it all throughout medicine where they say, well, we have to triage based on the color of your skin because we have to atone for the sins of yesterday.

00:59:36.000 As the archbishop of wokeism, CRT, would say, Ibram X. Kendi, this is his exact quote.

00:59:42.000 We need discrimination today to fix the discrimination of yesterday.

00:59:46.000 That is Ibram X. Kendi, one of the thought leaders of the critical race theory movement.

00:59:50.000 I could go on and continue with this.

00:59:53.000 And then, yes, you have Joe Biden coming out and sitting with that man who thinks he's a woman, Dylan Mulvaney, saying that it is wrong that states want to prevent children from chemically castrating themselves and medically mutilating themselves.

01:00:08.000 And yeah, let me kind of talk about the church.

01:00:11.000 I mean, yeah, the church is largely silent on this.

01:00:13.000 How many churches are speaking about it?

01:00:14.000 Not enough.

01:00:16.000 And we need, as American Christianity, to call this wrong and evil.

01:00:21.000 You want to get to some questions?

01:00:22.000 Yeah.

01:00:23.000 All right.

01:00:23.000 So, what we're going to do is, if you want to ask a question, there's a microphone here.

01:00:27.000 Someone from Turning Point USA is going to be holding it.

01:00:30.000 Do not try to grab the microphone.

01:00:31.000 We ain't going to give it to you.

01:00:33.000 We don't need you to tell a story.

01:00:35.000 We just need you to ask your question.

01:00:36.000 So, wherever you are, if you need to go out and come around, come right here to this spot here, and we will.

01:00:41.000 You guys can form a line here.

01:00:42.000 And by the way, how great is Boyd and Awesome for hosting this tonight?

01:00:45.000 This is really great.

01:00:46.000 If this is not your church home, I encourage this to become your church home.

01:00:51.000 I mean that.

01:00:52.000 So, while they're waiting, now that you're a father, how has that changed, or what is more of an issue now as a father?

01:01:03.000 It changes the whole ballgame.

01:01:04.000 And I just want to re-emphasize something I said earlier, then we'll go to the question here: which is, you realize that the most beautiful things in life are about service and duty.

01:01:14.000 And that's a big deal.

01:01:16.000 I mean, you kind of know that, but then you go through the exercise of that.

01:01:20.000 It's more than just me, it's bigger than yourself.

01:01:24.000 Okay, next.

01:01:25.000 And by the way, anyone, if you guys want to ask a question, just form a line there.

01:01:28.000 I'll get to as many as we can.

01:01:30.000 Okay.

01:01:30.000 Thank you for coming.

01:01:32.000 As a young person in the workforce, how do we make a difference with the beliefs that we have while most people around us believe differently, but also still being respectful?

01:01:41.000 Yeah, so in the workforce, yes.

01:01:43.000 So you just got to kind of be ready to potentially lose your job, right?

01:01:47.000 But I don't know how that's in rural America.

01:01:49.000 Look, just be salt and light in everywhere you go, right?

01:01:52.000 Have truth and grace.

01:01:54.000 And Jesus was 100% grace and 100% truth, right?

01:01:57.000 And so always be compassionate and loving, but never waver, you know, from what you believe and why you believe it.

01:02:02.000 That would be my encouragement to you.

01:02:04.000 And if you're trying to spread the gospel, which you always should be, you know, live out the joy that we have in Jesus Christ, right?

01:02:13.000 What I always, my biggest frustration, and this is a generalization, is when I meet Christians that are not enjoyable people. 1.00

01:02:26.000 Is that a fair way to say it?

01:02:27.000 Okay. 0.99

01:02:29.000 Unhappy Christians are the worst advertisements for Christianity ever. 0.99

01:02:37.000 Is that a fair way to put it? 0.99

01:02:38.000 I don't want to be around them.

01:02:39.000 Huh?

01:02:40.000 I don't want to be around them.

01:02:41.000 Which is, we have the truth.

01:02:44.000 We've been born new.

01:02:46.000 Let's show the world that we have joy and that we have peace, right?

01:02:52.000 And you might be having a tough day, but if you are a Christian, you must understand that other people are looking at you.

01:02:58.000 They're looking at how you act, right?

01:03:00.000 They look at your code of conduct.

01:03:02.000 And I would argue, it's a term that we use a lot, radical honesty, right?

01:03:06.000 Never tell a lie.

01:03:07.000 You'll be a freer person because of it as well.

01:03:07.000 Always be ethical.

01:03:09.000 So that's my advice I'd give to you.

01:03:11.000 God bless you.

01:03:12.000 Thank you.

01:03:15.000 Hi.

01:03:16.000 I wanted to start it off by saying when you came to Asheboro over a year ago, you inspired me to look into what and why I believe what I believe.

01:03:26.000 I'm homeschooled.

01:03:27.000 So at the beginning of my junior year, when my mom asked me what elective I wanted to do, I knew I wanted to do apologetics.

01:03:34.000 About two weeks ago, I was asked to do a project on an influential person in my society, and I chose to do you.

01:03:41.000 Well, that's very kind.

01:03:42.000 One of the questions, one of the questions, I believe you spoke a little bit ago, spoke about a little bit ago, was what does he or she believe constitutes truth?

01:03:54.000 So what do you believe constitutes truth?

01:03:56.000 Yeah, so first is Jesus, right?

01:03:58.000 Jesus is the truth, and the truth will set you free.

01:04:01.000 And then the next is the natural law.

01:04:03.000 There's a phenomenal author that I don't think gets enough love in Protestant circles.

01:04:08.000 He was a Catholic, Thomas Aquinas, who is probably one of the most influential thought leaders ever on how to use reason, which he believed was a gift from the Lord, to be able to discover God's harmonic natural law.

01:04:20.000 He wrote a book called the Summa Theologica, which basically he argued that through reason, we could discover God's fingerprints everywhere in society.

01:04:28.000 And Aquinas, he wrote so deeply and beautifully about what he called the proofs of God, right?

01:04:34.000 And his argument, I'm paraphrasing, is he said, no reasonable person could not believe in God, basically, right?

01:04:39.000 And so I believe in the natural law, and the natural law anchors you to reality.

01:04:44.000 For example, if you do not have an agreed upon, let's say, societal norm of where North is or what South is, then how are you able to navigate yourself?

01:04:58.000 If everyone had their own opinion of North, how would you even find your destination, right?

01:05:02.000 And so as Christians, I would even go as far to say that we believe there is a way you ought to live, okay?

01:05:09.000 And you ought to live in harmony with God's commands.

01:05:12.000 And even more so, we believe God loves you so much that he has laid forward that way to live.

01:05:17.000 And by the way, every study shows that when you get married and you're loyal to your spouse, you're a happier person and you live a better life than if someone who engages in hookup culture.

01:05:27.000 It's as if God loves us so much, the natural law allows us to be free from the bondage of sin.

01:05:34.000 And so the truth are things, those are just kind of some things in truth.

01:05:37.000 So there's biological truth, there's truth in physics, there's truth in all these different ways.

01:05:41.000 But the biggest truth is that which God is real and we are not him.

01:05:45.000 God sent his son, who was God, three-part God in the Trinity, to give his life for us that we might live forever.

01:05:51.000 And I just want to say, if there's any non-Christians here tonight, thank you guys for being here. 1.00

01:05:57.000 That is a way of looking at God that no other religion would ever dare articulate. 0.98

01:06:02.000 Let me tell you why.

01:06:03.000 To say that God would take fleshly form, that he loved you so much to take the form of the broken, to walk alongside of you, to be beaten and broken and persecuted, and then conquer the thing that keeps us anxious every single day, which is death, and to conquer that so that we may live forever.

01:06:21.000 Said differently, almost every other religion is us trying to grow closer to us trying to go to God.

01:06:27.000 Christianity is God who came to us.

01:06:30.000 That's totally different.

01:06:31.000 That's a game changer.

01:06:37.000 Hi.

01:06:38.000 I'm actually a Democratic House candidate.

01:06:40.000 I said I would stop by.

01:06:42.000 My question for you would be: you know, if you I feel that you had a lot of misunderstandings on many things you said.

01:06:49.000 So if you would like to speak with me instead of random college students, hit my campaign up.

01:06:54.000 Name's Eric Davis.

01:06:55.000 Love to speak.

01:06:57.000 Want to name one?

01:06:59.000 Go ahead.

01:07:00.000 I mean, you misidentified CRT.

01:07:03.000 You talked about college indoctrination.

01:07:05.000 How did I misidentify CRT?

01:07:07.000 CRT is essentially looking at how, throughout history, we have had issues with embedding certain aspects of racism in the law.

01:07:21.000 One example would be, I know a lot of people made fun of when they said that, you know, roads are racist, but that was taken out of context.

01:07:28.000 Essentially, what it was saying was in that specific area, there were certain bridges that were put in place on purpose because the predominant method of transporting the black population had to do with buses.

01:07:41.000 However, they made the bridges too low for the buses to actually go under.

01:07:45.000 That's what they were speaking of.

01:07:46.000 And that was a specific thing that was put in place.

01:07:49.000 My background is in urban geography, so I understand how these things work.

01:07:54.000 And that was actually put in place specifically to downplay the ability of the black population.

01:07:59.000 Let me ask you a question about CRT.

01:08:01.000 So let's just talk about a policy.

01:08:03.000 Do you think that black-only dormitories on college campuses would be wrong? 1.00

01:08:08.000 That entirely depends.

01:08:11.000 It should.

01:08:12.000 It depends on what?

01:08:13.000 It depends on what you mean by it.

01:08:14.000 Well, it depends on what you're viewing it as.

01:08:17.000 Because evil?

01:08:19.000 A dormitory itself?

01:08:23.000 Allowing a dormitory to be black-on is not in and of itself. 0.73

01:08:28.000 Are you trying to say that's racist?

01:08:30.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:30.000 I mean, a white-only dormitory would be racist, right?

01:08:33.000 Well, we have male and female-only dormitories as well.

01:08:37.000 It's not inherently racist.

01:08:39.000 Yeah, well, I hate to break it to you, but chromosomal differences are legitimate.

01:08:43.000 Racial differences are not. 0.93

01:08:45.000 They're caused by the same thing.

01:08:50.000 So CRT is active discrimination.

01:08:54.000 There are dozens of black, there's dozens of black-only dormitories across America.

01:08:58.000 Which isn't racist.

01:09:00.000 Okay, so discriminating against a race is racist.

01:09:03.000 I don't care what definition you use, right?

01:09:06.000 And so I believe black-only dormitories are wrong. 0.99

01:09:09.000 You would disagree.

01:09:10.000 If you read Intro to Critical Race Theory by Derek Bell, he talks about this extensively, about restructuring society to be able to fit the marginalized class at the expense of what he would consider to be the oppressor class.

01:09:22.000 Happy to talk to you at length about it.

01:09:24.000 And thank you for being here tonight.

01:09:25.000 Appreciate it.

01:09:26.000 Thank you.

01:09:29.000 Okay.

01:09:30.000 Next question.

01:09:33.000 Just for the regular citizen who votes at every election and who has had their eyes open to election fraud.

01:09:45.000 And we just feel like that there's kind of nothing we can do about it.

01:09:49.000 If you have anything to speak about that, other than voting every single election and showing our ID and voting on election day, we'd just love to hear your thoughts on that.

01:09:59.000 Yeah, look, so first of all, I love the heart you have for the integrity of our elections.

01:10:02.000 That's not a political issue.

01:10:03.000 Let me say that again.

01:10:04.000 Having fair and free and transparent and trustworthy elections is not a political issue.

01:10:08.000 It's a civilizational defining issue.

01:10:11.000 Your country falls apart if you do not trust your elections, okay?

01:10:16.000 Even if I was on the left, I would say it's not healthy that so many people question the election. 0.98

01:10:21.000 Instead, they call us dumb and they say, oh, you're skeptic. 0.99

01:10:24.000 You're a denier. 0.99

01:10:24.000 It's like, hold on a second, wait. 0.99

01:10:26.000 Like, we changed every voting law.

01:10:28.000 We had massive mail-in ballots.

01:10:29.000 We unconstitutionally administered the Pennsylvania election.

01:10:32.000 Georgia went from 248,000 mail-in ballots to 1.2 million mail-in ballots.

01:10:37.000 Mark Zuckerberg put in $400 million into the 2020 election campaign.

01:10:43.000 In the month of October, we were not allowed to talk about the Hunter Biden laptop on any social media channel that now Mark Zuckerberg has told us the FBI pressured, and we're supposed to acknowledge everything as perfectly fine and fair.

01:10:54.000 In an election, by the way, that was decided by about 30,000 votes in Pennsylvania and 12,000 votes in Georgia and 9,000 votes in Arizona.

01:11:02.000 If you cut those numbers in half and those people would have flipped their vote, you're talking about then 15,000, 5,000, and 4,500.

01:11:08.000 Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, partner.

01:11:10.000 Our country is way too important for me just to shut up when I start to see this blatant miscarriage of justice in front of me.

01:11:17.000 And so I want everyone to trust our elections, including myself, right?

01:11:21.000 It's one of the most important things.

01:11:22.000 I was in the movie 2000 Mules with Dinesh D'Souza.

01:11:25.000 It's a great movie.

01:11:26.000 And now, there are some people out there, there's some wackadoodle theories out there that I think are not exactly helpful.

01:11:32.000 You know, like, for example, like satellite votes being, you know, maybe that's true, maybe it's not.

01:11:36.000 I don't think it is, right?

01:11:37.000 I instead want to get back to the most provable and the most honest and the transparent issue, right?

01:11:42.000 Which is mass mail-in voting that goes to people that are no longer on the voting rolls with signature verifications that are relaxed.

01:11:49.000 So here's the thing: you got to do what you possibly can to be a poll worker, election judge, change the local laws, try to stop this absentee mail-in battling surge.

01:11:58.000 I could tell you, coming from the American West, Washington, Oregon, and Colorado, do you know this in those three states?

01:12:05.000 You cannot vote on election day.

01:12:06.000 It's only vote by mail.

01:12:08.000 They don't even have an option.

01:12:10.000 They're trying to nationalize that.

01:12:11.000 They're trying to bring it to every single state.

01:12:13.000 So we have to play defense against that, right?

01:12:16.000 And then finally, be the change you want to see in the world, that kind of cliche line, which is vote the way that you think is the most secure.

01:12:23.000 I'm a game day guy.

01:12:24.000 I'm going to show up on Election Day and vote on Election Day.

01:12:27.000 And however, you guys want to do that, God bless you.

01:12:30.000 Now, I actually don't scold you if you're like, hey, I'm an in-person early voting person because I don't like the lines.

01:12:35.000 God bless you.

01:12:36.000 In my show, I talk about that a lot.

01:12:37.000 I think it's wrong to tell people early voting is always wrong.

01:12:40.000 I don't think it's as secure.

01:12:42.000 That's my own personal opinion.

01:12:43.000 But if you're an early voting person and you've trusted it for years, then you're making the best decision.

01:12:48.000 But it's got to come from our laws.

01:12:50.000 I think North Carolina, on a state and local level, should do the following: no more voting month, get rid of no excuse absentee balloting.

01:12:56.000 Obviously, I know you guys have had many court challenges on the voter ID thing.

01:13:00.000 It's just been not, I don't even know where it stands, honestly.

01:13:03.000 It's approved, it's not approved, it's proved.

01:13:05.000 It's not approved anymore.

01:13:06.000 Again, this thing is so this is how racist the left is, right?

01:13:09.000 They say voter ID is racist. 0.95

01:13:11.000 You're racist for saying voter id is racist for assuming that black Americans can't get an ID. 0.88

01:13:16.000 You understand how racist that is? 0.99

01:13:18.000 Meanwhile, you can't rent a movie, board a plane, you know, purchase liquor without an ID.

01:13:23.000 Get government benefits holding is so crazy, right?

01:13:25.000 And by the way, here's the thing I never understand.

01:13:27.000 They're like, we need reparations.

01:13:28.000 Okay, how are you going to prove your identity to go collect your reparations without an ID?

01:13:33.000 Like, how are you going to prove that your family's been here for seven generations without an ID?

01:13:38.000 Oh, we're just going to assume.

01:13:39.000 So it's one way or the other.

01:13:40.000 You're either for identification or not.

01:13:42.000 Okay, so to answer your question, you got to get involved, get engaged on the precinct level, most important thing you could do.

01:13:47.000 God bless you.

01:13:47.000 Thank you.

01:13:53.000 I'm speaking as a small business owner coming from Raleigh.

01:13:57.000 One of the, as part of the circle of other small business owners that have Christian values, my question is with the move that we're seeing is a lot of Silicon Valley is moving to Raleigh.

01:14:09.000 We're seeing a lot more liberal values being pushed into Raleigh.

01:14:12.000 As far as someone who is a Christian business owner, and how do we not just like compete or survive in this kind of climate, but still hold fast to our Christian values and be able to do it without compromise in this kind of climate?

01:14:29.000 It's a great question.

01:14:30.000 It's a big concern.

01:14:31.000 I think that one of the downsides of the aggressive business recruitment in this state has been you're bringing in a lot of values that are changing the body politic of North Carolina.

01:14:41.000 And I think it's great for economic growth.

01:14:42.000 I think it's great the Research Triangle is one of the wealthiest places in the country, but it comes at a cost, comes at a price, where all of a sudden you have values that are completely distant and foreign to that of traditional North Carolina values.

01:14:53.000 Look, as a small business owner, I'm a big believer that the sooner you own your values on your sleeve, the better.

01:14:59.000 It's going to come at a cost.

01:15:00.000 It's going to come at a price.

01:15:00.000 But actually, I don't know what kind of business.

01:15:02.000 Are you in technology or something?

01:15:04.000 I'm in marketing and web design.

01:15:06.000 Yeah, and so you have to make a choice, right?

01:15:08.000 So I'm not here to give you advice, but I would give you just maybe something to think about and pray about and fast about and really mull over, which is if you own your values early, do you think how big of a, you know, how big of a hit would that be for your business?

01:15:22.000 Honestly, I think we're entering a phase where people would love a marketing web design person that is an outspoken Christian and conservative, and I think you would be rewarded for that.

01:15:33.000 And so it's just something to think about, especially kind of in this new economy that we are in, where JP Morgan is kicking people out for having accounts and all this sort of stuff that's happening.

01:15:43.000 So look, I just want to thank you for even asking the question and thinking about that.

01:15:48.000 But I think that we as Christians should not compartmentalize our Christianity.

01:15:53.000 I think we should be comprehensive.

01:15:54.000 And so my encouragement to business owners is: look, be prudent.

01:15:58.000 You know, you obviously have to put food on the table and make payroll.

01:16:01.000 But if it's appropriate, if you're in the early stages of your business, be like, look, we're a Christian conservative owned family business.

01:16:06.000 Just that statement alone, you know, I think would do a lot of good.

01:16:10.000 And then you're freer to then all of a sudden, when all these things come, you don't have to all of a sudden act like with your clients, you're somebody that you aren't.

01:16:16.000 I'm not one to try to, you know, disenfranchise you because I could imagine in the research triangle, that would be a tough thing to say at times.

01:16:16.000 But think about it.

01:16:23.000 So thanks for being here, man.

01:16:24.000 Appreciate it.

01:16:28.000 Charlie, thank you for being here.

01:16:29.000 I commend your courage and your commitment to Christ.

01:16:31.000 Thank you for all of that.

01:16:32.000 And I pray for you regularly, you and your wife.

01:16:34.000 And thank you for your wife's ministry.

01:16:36.000 And everybody should take advantage of the Bible reading thing that your wife says. 1.00

01:16:39.000 I'm going to tell everyone about it.

01:16:40.000 Yeah, she helps people read a whole Bible in the year, the Bible in a year. 0.56

01:16:43.000 It's Biblein365.com, BibleinNumber365.com.

01:16:48.000 You get it texted to you every single day of the verses you need to read.

01:16:51.000 And if you do it for one, every single day, you do that, you read the Bible in the entire year.

01:16:55.000 It amazes me how many awesome Christians out there have yet to read the entire Bible.

01:17:00.000 Not saying that accusingly, right?

01:17:02.000 It was just until recently I was in that category.

01:17:04.000 But I encourage you guys, it'll change your life.

01:17:06.000 Thank you for saying that.

01:17:07.000 Yeah, thank you, Charlie, for being here.

01:17:09.000 We haven't talked about foreign affairs and things like that.

01:17:11.000 So there's many other things we could speak about, but you talk a lot about the Great Reset.

01:17:17.000 Could you just speak to what's going on in Ukraine and in China and in relationship to the Great Reset and why America is making itself intentionally weak on purpose to be a part of that and what we can do to stand against it?

01:17:30.000 Sure.

01:17:31.000 I have a heterodox view on Ukraine, so I don't mean to offend anybody, but I think it's insane we're sending $75 billion to Ukraine while we can't put food on the table for our families and our border is wide open.

01:17:31.000 Yeah, thank you, man.

01:17:41.000 $75 billion.

01:17:44.000 I'm no fan of Putin. 0.82

01:17:45.000 He's a war criminal. 1.00

01:17:45.000 He's an awful person. 1.00

01:17:46.000 I've said that publicly and repeatedly.

01:17:48.000 However, a country that is in decline needs to be very prudent about where you spend your money and what conflicts you decide to get involved in.

01:17:55.000 And this is a very, very murky conflict, okay?

01:17:58.000 This is not the good versus evil thing that the media is saying.

01:18:01.000 Again, I'm not saying that Putin is great or Russia is great or Russia was right to invade, but there's a lot of foreign policy murkiness that's involved with Zelensky coming into power.

01:18:10.000 Where's that money going?

01:18:11.000 Where's the armaments?

01:18:12.000 And then Zelensky goes on television demanding more money from us while our border is wide open and 2 million people have invaded us over the last couple of years.

01:18:20.000 I find that to be outrageous, honestly, and I don't support it at all.

01:18:23.000 And I wish our leaders were more focused on resolving the conflict than escalating the conflict.

01:18:29.000 And it is not an over-exaggeration that we might now be in a hot war with a nuclear armed power.

01:18:34.000 Do I think we're going to nuclear war?

01:18:36.000 I sure hope not.

01:18:36.000 I don't think so.

01:18:37.000 I'm not one of those alarmists.

01:18:38.000 But I don't trust any of the people in our government right now.

01:18:40.000 So I don't know.

01:18:41.000 I mean, and this is what drives me nuts.

01:18:43.000 And honestly, some of your people on the right here in your state have been so wrong on this topic.

01:18:48.000 I got to tell you, I could not disagree more because I actually think that American citizens should come first. 0.99

01:18:53.000 I know it's a radical belief because usually people that, you know, even on the right, think that, you know, foreign wars matter more than American kids, which I'm not exactly really sure how that one works.

01:19:05.000 Imagine if we spent $75 billion on mental health in the last year instead of going to Ukraine.

01:19:09.000 Or how about $75 billion on the southern border?

01:19:12.000 Anyway, you could fill it in.

01:19:13.000 Okay, but yeah, I'll just kind of, I could go on at length on the Ukraine thing, but here's the other thing.

01:19:18.000 China loves nothing more than seeing us sink money into a winless conflict in Eastern Europe while they are taking over the world. 0.96

01:19:27.000 They just re-elected Xi Jinping with more power and support than ever before.

01:19:30.000 We should have said very clearly, Putin, don't invade Eastern Ukraine.

01:19:34.000 We could have held elections.

01:19:35.000 They want to be part of Russia anyway. 0.50

01:19:36.000 I know that's controversial to say.

01:19:38.000 Eastern Ukraine wants to be part of Russia.

01:19:38.000 They do.

01:19:40.000 They're all ethnically Russian.

01:19:41.000 They speak Russian.

01:19:42.000 90% approval rating for Putin there.

01:19:43.000 I'm not a fan of that.

01:19:44.000 I don't see it.

01:19:45.000 That's their own view.

01:19:46.000 That's their own self-determination.

01:19:47.000 We could have brokered peace and then we could have told Russia, knock it off, but you supply the oil and we're going to crush China together. 0.99

01:19:53.000 It takes a very short-sighted view of history to act as if you can defeat a major power while also being against Russia.

01:20:01.000 It's just not the way it works.

01:20:02.000 They have too much land mass and too many resources.

01:20:05.000 We used them appropriately, I think, in World War II, and it wasn't the greatest part in our history, but guess what? 0.81

01:20:10.000 It was the right move to have Churchill get Stalin on the side of the West to defeat the Nazis. 0.93

01:20:15.000 That was the right move.

01:20:16.000 And guess what?

01:20:16.000 I believe the Chinese Communist Party is the moral equivalent of Nazis in our time.

01:20:21.000 They are 100 times more dangerous than Russia ever will be. 0.99

01:20:24.000 They're taking over our farmland.

01:20:25.000 They're hacking our country.

01:20:27.000 They're infiltrating our universities.

01:20:28.000 They're deindustrializing us.

01:20:30.000 Russia is a declining power.

01:20:31.000 Okay, 130 million people, nuclear weapons, and a frenetic leader with a lot of oil and natural gas.

01:20:37.000 Okay, we could use that strategically if our leaders were smart, like I think our prior administration was, to crush the Chinese Communist Party.

01:20:43.000 Instead, we have this proxy war on the Virgin Nuclear War.

01:20:46.000 China's getting rich and powerful.

01:20:47.000 Who's never been held accountable, by the way, for unleashing a bioweapon on the entire world?

01:20:53.000 Like, hello?

01:20:55.000 And so, great question.

01:20:58.000 I'm very contrarian on that.

01:21:01.000 If I could ever say something, I could not disagree more with the conventional Republican view on Ukraine.

01:21:07.000 I think they have it all wrong, and I think it's making America a lot less safe.

01:21:12.000 Final two questions.

01:21:13.000 I wish you would give some passion.

01:21:14.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:21:15.000 Hey, Charlie, appreciate you being here.

01:21:18.000 You're a lot taller than I thought you were.

01:21:20.000 I hear that every so often.

01:21:23.000 I'm thinking about, you know, we've got a great group of pastors here tonight who are here for all the race.

01:21:28.000 Give it up for them.

01:21:28.000 That's great.

01:21:29.000 We need more pastors that are speaking.

01:21:32.000 There are a lot of believers in a lot of churches throughout the country whose pastors have chosen to preach the gospel and stay out of politics for a wide variety of reasons.

01:21:47.000 And I'm a Liberty University graduate.

01:21:49.000 I grew up in the United States.

01:21:50.000 Love Liberty.

01:21:51.000 They do a great job.

01:21:53.000 And so it's in my blood, but I'm thinking now with where we are and with what we're going through, how do we empower the believers in a lot of these churches who are desperately looking for, we want to get involved, but we don't know where and we don't know how.

01:22:13.000 And we're not really getting led from the pulpit.

01:22:16.000 Do you have anything that we can do different?

01:22:19.000 I mean, that's one of the reasons why we started TPUSA Faith.

01:22:19.000 Yes.

01:22:22.000 So there's three types of churches in America.

01:22:23.000 There's the courageous.

01:22:24.000 You're sitting in a courageous church right now.

01:22:26.000 You are.

01:22:29.000 And that deserves to be repeated. 0.99

01:22:31.000 And there's the cowardly. 0.86

01:22:32.000 The cowardly are the people that know better, but they don't speak out. 1.00

01:22:35.000 And I love the cowards. 0.99

01:22:37.000 You should too. 0.99

01:22:38.000 Cowards mean well. 0.96

01:22:39.000 They just haven't found courage. 0.99

01:22:40.000 We should challenge the cowards. 1.00

01:22:42.000 We should take the cowards out to lunch. 1.00

01:22:43.000 You should meet with the cowards. 1.00

01:22:44.000 You should encourage the cowards. 0.99

01:22:46.000 You should tell the cowards that if they speak out, that rewards will be given. 0.99

01:22:50.000 No, seriously, cowards have no good reason not to speak out right now. 0.98

01:22:54.000 I mean that. 0.99

01:22:55.000 We have seen at TPUSA faith, so many cowardly pastors no longer be cowards. 0.82

01:23:00.000 You know what's so great? 0.87

01:23:01.000 They just have to choose.

01:23:02.000 They have to choose courage to speak out with boldness and faith.

01:23:05.000 And so they give all sorts of reasons, right?

01:23:07.000 Well, Charlie, our tithes and our offerings and our attendance is going down.

01:23:11.000 Bad, response, right?

01:23:14.000 By the way, you're wrong.

01:23:14.000 That's a bad answer.

01:23:15.000 Every church that's speaking out boldly is seeing their tithes, their offerings, their attendance increase, and they're seeing them be blessed more than ever before.

01:23:21.000 Okay.

01:23:22.000 So then there's the third type of church, which is the complicit church, okay?

01:23:27.000 These deserve to be rebuked repeatedly. 0.99

01:23:29.000 BLM flags, gay flags, all this nonsense. 1.00

01:23:33.000 There is no space for that whatsoever. 0.98

01:23:35.000 Okay. 0.99

01:23:35.000 Again, love on the cowards. 0.99

01:23:37.000 Rebuke the complicit pastors.

01:23:39.000 Now, if you have a courageous pastor out here, if this is not your home church and you have a courageous pastor, you should thank them and encourage them because you're going to get more of what is encouraged.

01:23:47.000 Okay.

01:23:48.000 Do not take that for granted.

01:23:49.000 Send them a note tonight.

01:23:50.000 Hey, I just went to an event.

01:23:52.000 I just want to let you know thank you for speaking out.

01:23:54.000 It means a lot.

01:23:55.000 God bless you.

01:23:56.000 We're praying for you.

01:23:56.000 Keep doing it.

01:23:57.000 Okay.

01:23:57.000 So you might say, Charlie, how do I know what type of pastor I have?

01:23:59.000 Two things.

01:24:00.000 I think I said this earlier.

01:24:01.000 Did they celebrate the reversal of Roe versus Wade?

01:24:04.000 If not, you need to find a new pastor.

01:24:06.000 Okay?

01:24:06.000 Second one, have they or will they give a Sunday sermon talking about the biblical need to vote ahead of the midterm election?

01:24:13.000 If not, you need to find a new pastor.

01:24:15.000 Okay?

01:24:16.000 Those are the two things.

01:24:18.000 That's just the nice criteria.

01:24:19.000 Okay.

01:24:19.000 And so I could talk about the complicit for a while.

01:24:24.000 Stop attending the complicit.

01:24:26.000 Stop giving money to the complicit.

01:24:27.000 The cowardly, though, is worth your time.

01:24:30.000 The cowardly is like they're kind of in the middle. 0.51

01:24:31.000 They don't know what to do.

01:24:33.000 And TPUSA Faith is here to help them, to love on them, and to show them that boldness is the proper course of action right now.

01:24:39.000 Okay.

01:24:40.000 I think we have two more questions.

01:24:41.000 Yeah.

01:24:42.000 Charlie, we appreciate your being here tonight.

01:24:45.000 And I want to thank you for the job you're doing with our young people today.

01:24:49.000 Thank you.

01:24:50.000 Now, one of the things that trouble our hearts is what's happening in our colleges with these liberal professors.

01:24:57.000 And your organization combats this directly, but we haven't heard about what your organization does.

01:25:03.000 Tell us what it does and what you have achieved in the 10 years that you have headed it up.

01:25:09.000 Well, thank you.

01:25:09.000 Yeah, we do quite a lot.

01:25:11.000 So we have a lot of programs at Turning Point USA.

01:25:13.000 Our bread and butter is starting chapters on college campuses.

01:25:16.000 That's our bread and butter.

01:25:17.000 So we're on pace to hit 1,000 high school chapters across the country by the end of the year, an incredible landmark and achievement.

01:25:24.000 We have college chapters all across the country, including at UNC Charlotte.

01:25:28.000 And so you might say, Charlie, well, what success have you been able to show?

01:25:30.000 Well, according to Pew Research, five years ago, 37% of American young people had a liberal worldview.

01:25:37.000 Okay?

01:25:37.000 37%.

01:25:38.000 Five years later, with Turning Point USA reaching millions of people on social media, having over 250 people on staff, TPUSA Faith, 27% of young people have a liberal worldview.

01:25:47.000 So we brought that number down by 10.

01:25:49.000 Okay?

01:25:49.000 Now, you might say, what about conservative?

01:25:51.000 All right.

01:25:51.000 Well, 22%, according to Pew Research, had a conservative worldview.

01:25:54.000 Now, 23% have a conservative worldview.

01:25:56.000 So we're up one, they're down 10.

01:25:58.000 The average is an 11-point movement.

01:26:00.000 I'm not taking full credit for that.

01:26:01.000 There's some awesome people out there, right?

01:26:03.000 There's amazing people.

01:26:04.000 But I'll give you a couple success stories from Turning Point USA.

01:26:07.000 Candace Owens got her start at Turning Point USA.

01:26:09.000 That's a pretty awesome thing, right?

01:26:12.000 Not to mention the thousands of Turning Point alumni that are now starting business.

01:26:17.000 Austin's been there throughout all of it.

01:26:18.000 It's been amazing.

01:26:19.000 Starting businesses that are running their chief of staff, communications director for governors.

01:26:23.000 Not to mention the amazing impact that happens when we do our events on college campuses.

01:26:28.000 Over 700 campus events every single semester that we do at Turning Point USA.

01:26:32.000 Registering voters, tabling, talking to kids.

01:26:35.000 We are the presence.

01:26:35.000 We are the drumbeat on these college campuses and high school campuses, not to mention the millions of people we're reaching online.

01:26:41.000 So happy to elaborate that even more.

01:26:43.000 We have Turning Point Academy, TPUSA Faith.

01:26:45.000 We have the largest events in the movement.

01:26:47.000 You guys should come to Phoenix for America Fest.

01:26:49.000 It is going to be the biggest event.

01:26:50.000 It's going to be unbelievable.

01:26:51.000 Tucker Carlson, Bannon, huge speakers are going to be there.

01:26:54.000 AMFest.com.

01:26:56.000 Over 10,000 students will be there.

01:26:58.000 So God bless you.

01:26:59.000 Thank you for the question.

01:27:00.000 Yeah.

01:27:00.000 See if you can get a chapter over at Chapel Hill.

01:27:05.000 I would love to visit Chapel Hill, I'll tell you.

01:27:07.000 You're redeemable.

01:27:08.000 All right.

01:27:09.000 This will be the final question.

01:27:10.000 Is that right?

01:27:10.000 Or we have, okay, yeah, I got it.

01:27:12.000 Thank you.

01:27:13.000 Hey, Charlie, huge fan.

01:27:14.000 Thank you so much for coming out tonight.

01:27:16.000 My question is, I'm as extreme pro-life as you can possibly be.

01:27:21.000 But how can I encourage people to also kind of view what's going on without and be active in the pro-light movement without shoving the vulgar disgustingness down their throat?

01:27:33.000 Yeah, I mean, I hear you.

01:27:35.000 I think what you're talking about is some of the imagery and just some of the graphic nature of it.

01:27:38.000 I think that does have a place, unfortunately.

01:27:40.000 I got to be honest.

01:27:41.000 I think some people don't know how unnatural the procedure is.

01:27:47.000 But I do agree it might turn some people off.

01:27:49.000 But in the right setting, with the right permission of a recipient, I actually think it could be very persuasive.

01:27:54.000 I really do.

01:27:56.000 For example, there might be somebody watching online or somebody listening to this.

01:27:58.000 You might say, well, what do you mean by that?

01:28:00.000 Without getting too graphic, right?

01:28:02.000 Because I haven't gotten everyone's permission because I don't want to ruin somebody's night.

01:28:05.000 But the actual procedure of an abortion is so incredibly hard to watch that I actually think it will motivate you more to stop it.

01:28:12.000 So with that being said, though, it could turn somebody off from possibly doing that.

01:28:16.000 So look, it's all about the morals of it, right?

01:28:18.000 Which is what is a human being?

01:28:19.000 We believe human beings are made in the image of God, not an accident of millions of years of evolution, and therefore necessary of legal protection, of protection from society in every way, shape, or form, right?

01:28:30.000 And so it's a question, I think, of also showing that we have a heart for people, right?

01:28:35.000 There's a miscategorization, I think, from the left where they say, oh, you're only pro-birth.

01:28:39.000 No, we'll take that question.

01:28:40.000 That's fine.

01:28:40.000 He waited in line.

01:28:41.000 We'll take that.

01:28:42.000 It's fine.

01:28:43.000 Sorry, I hate to turn your questions away.

01:28:44.000 That'll be the final, final question, I promise, okay?

01:28:46.000 Is that we have a heart for people, right?

01:28:48.000 We want to have people flourish.

01:28:49.000 We want to see them succeed.

01:28:50.000 We want to grow them closer to God.

01:28:52.000 And then there's some people that say, well, you're just pro-birth.

01:28:54.000 That's not true.

01:28:54.000 We're pro-life in every policy, okay?

01:28:56.000 You probably heard that accusation.

01:28:58.000 Oh, you're just pro-birth, Charlie.

01:28:59.000 Nonsense.

01:29:00.000 I want a closed border so that girls are not sex trafficked into our country. 1.00

01:29:05.000 I want police on our streets so that kids are not shot on the way to school.

01:29:08.000 I want a free market economy so people get rich and have dignity at work and are able to see their incomes go up and I have to go on government benefits, right?

01:29:16.000 I want an independent judiciary so that rights given by God are protected and that government tyranny doesn't reign.

01:29:20.000 Every policy we have, everybody, is pro-life.

01:29:23.000 Do not allow them to convince you of anything else.

01:29:25.000 God bless you.

01:29:26.000 Thank you.

01:29:30.000 The final question.

01:29:32.000 And thank you, Charlie, for allowing me to do that.

01:29:35.000 I have a question, a two-part question for you.

01:29:39.000 I try to articulate it as sharply as I can.

01:29:42.000 A lot of Christian people I've heard in my past say they're not voting at all because they don't like either candidate.

01:29:52.000 And what would your message be to us as a church and to the Christian community about the importance of voting more on maybe issue than it is the personality of the candidate?

01:30:03.000 Thank you.

01:30:04.000 It's a great question.

01:30:05.000 Yeah.

01:30:06.000 So I would ask them the question, which is, you know, do you think that person would be morally superior?

01:30:14.000 Do you think that person would be morally superior or morally similar to Samson?

01:30:18.000 I love the story of Samson in the Bible.

01:30:20.000 Now, people accuse Trump all the time.

01:30:21.000 Oh, I don't like Trump. 0.98

01:30:22.000 He's narcissistic, egotist, and all this. 0.96

01:30:24.000 I'm like, okay, he gave us justices that repealed Roe versus Wade. 0.86

01:30:27.000 Get off your moral high horse, okay?

01:30:28.000 He did good for our country.

01:30:30.000 All right, like, and so, but let's use the Trump example, right?

01:30:34.000 Okay, he's self-centered. 0.98

01:30:35.000 He's narcissistic. 0.97

01:30:36.000 He's egotistical. 0.99

01:30:36.000 He's all this sort of stuff. 0.99

01:30:37.000 Okay.

01:30:38.000 Well, let's look at the story of Samson, right?

01:30:40.000 Properly told, the story of Samson is something we can't even tell in Sunday school. 0.73

01:30:44.000 God came to Samson when he was in a prostitute's bed, took a job, a donkey, killed a thousand Philistines. 1.00

01:30:48.000 Good enough to be able to go into the hall of faith. 0.58

01:30:50.000 And I know what you're thinking.

01:30:51.000 Okay, Samson Trump, the hair, the whole similarity.

01:30:53.000 I got it, right?

01:30:54.000 But the point is this: the story of Samson.

01:30:57.000 Samson is elevated in the book of Hebrews as being someone that we celebrate and we revere because he was willing to fight when other people weren't.

01:31:04.000 And so I try to tell people: look, would I appoint Donald Trump to be on the elder board of this beautiful church?

01:31:10.000 Maybe, maybe not.

01:31:12.000 Okay?

01:31:12.000 No.

01:31:12.000 Yes, no.

01:31:13.000 Okay.

01:31:15.000 Thank you.

01:31:16.000 However, this is a different question.

01:31:18.000 I voted for him for president, but I would not have him.

01:31:22.000 However, metaphorically, would you use him to defend the right to worship and to defend the ability to, of course, you would.

01:31:32.000 All truth is God's truth, no matter whose mouth it comes out of it.

01:31:34.000 Amen.

01:31:35.000 That's why I called him the bodyguard of Western civilization.

01:31:38.000 When you hire a bodyguard, you don't really care about his tweet history or if he's loud or whatever.

01:31:42.000 You want someone who could fight and fight and win.

01:31:45.000 And here's the thing: is that I would just encourage some, because some Christians get into the personality contest. 0.96

01:31:51.000 It's about policies.

01:31:53.000 And here's the thing.

01:31:54.000 We have had personalities of Neville Chamberlain for the last 30 years.

01:31:58.000 Neville Chamberlain being the UK prime minister who went to Ribbentrop in Germany and got the piece of paper signed, peace in our time.

01:32:05.000 He will not invade Poland.

01:32:07.000 And he proclaimed to all the people of the Western world, don't worry, the Nazis won't invade Poland.

01:32:11.000 That's been the right for the last 30 years.

01:32:14.000 Peace in our time.

01:32:15.000 And guess what?

01:32:16.000 Churchill was rough around the edges. 0.99

01:32:17.000 He was called a drunk and a sleaze and a slob.

01:32:20.000 And as Churchill entered Buckingham Palace for the prime minister, I'm sorry, when he went in to go become prime minister and meet with the then queen, the then queen, he knew he felt the weight of the world coming upon his shoulders because he knew that he was going to be the next prime minister. 0.86

01:32:33.000 But he said, I slept like a baby that night.

01:32:35.000 He said, finally, someone capable of the job is now in charge.

01:32:38.000 It's like, so Churchill, right?

01:32:40.000 And guess what?

01:32:41.000 He saved Western civilization.

01:32:43.000 He was the greatest man in the 20th century because he was a fighter, because he was willing, because he unified the West against evil.

01:32:48.000 And guess what?

01:32:49.000 There's different times for everything.

01:32:50.000 Ecclesiastes tells us that, by the way, there's a time for everything.

01:32:53.000 We're in a time right now of pretty awful conflict against evil.

01:32:56.000 And I want someone who's a bodyguard and a fighter.

01:32:58.000 I'm not going to pretend he's not someone that he isn't.

01:33:01.000 Like, Trump is Trump, okay?

01:33:03.000 He's a larger than life only in America character.

01:33:05.000 But my goodness, God bless that man because he stood in the void and fought this evil for us despite everything they've thrown at him.

01:33:13.000 And I think he deserves such credit for that.

01:33:14.000 Absolutely.

01:33:15.000 Can I say one final thing?

01:33:16.000 Say whatever you got, bro.

01:33:18.000 Just, I want to thank you guys.

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01:33:56.000 I know a lot of you are probably saying, Charlie, I've done everything that's been asked of me.

01:34:00.000 I watched Tucker Carlson.

01:34:02.000 I bought the pillow.

01:34:03.000 I've done everything, Charlie, that has been asked of me, right?

01:34:05.000 You bought the pillow.

01:34:07.000 Pillow Brigade right here.

01:34:09.000 It is the man in the arena that counts.

01:34:12.000 And we as Christians have got to get in that arena.

01:34:14.000 And that's our call to action tonight.

01:34:15.000 God bless you guys.

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Who Will the Next Generation Serve? LIVE from Asheboro, North Carolina with Pastor Boyd Byerly

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