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00:03:03.000Some talk about say that it's too much, but I think in this world right now, you know, we have to be on the offensive side and we got to be able to address what's in the room.
00:03:24.000One, the area of LA that I'm in is particularly liberal.
00:03:28.000So to have a pastor to speak out, especially one being an African-American, because there's a certain expectation that you go along with the cultural norm.
00:03:35.000And when you break that, you're worse than an infidel in the culture's eyes a lot of times.
00:03:41.000In 2016, I spoke very boldly about the issues that were being addressed and the election that was coming up.
00:03:49.000And as a result of that, there was a departure from the church, let's just say.
00:03:54.000However, as we heard today, when you're a coward, cowardice is contagious, but so is courage.
00:04:02.000So even through that, even speaking up boldly in that area, it drew more people who were looking for answers from the pulpit.
00:04:08.000So I think we have a demand on us and a command from the Lord to make sure that we're speaking on these issues because it's not just political.
00:04:30.000Charlie, just to add to Jesse, he was the only pastor in the San Fernando Valley to remain open during the lockdown orders and defying the governor.
00:04:45.000You know, you shouldn't be talking about politics.
00:04:47.000You know, you should just stick to preaching the gospel.
00:04:49.000And I said, you know, we do preach the gospel, very much so.
00:04:53.000But Jesus said to teach everything that he taught us.
00:04:57.000So part of what we teach is morality, the command of God, the value of life, the importance of equality, not equity, but equality, that we love everyone the same, regardless of race.
00:05:09.000And we don't allow that to come in and divide the church, the racial politics that are at play, even within the church.
00:05:41.000So one of the things is our counselors, they're not licensed counselors because if you're a licensed counselor, then you are not allowed to pull people out of the homosexual, transgender lifestyle.
00:05:52.000So we actually do not hire licensed counselors.
00:05:55.000So we got the, this has happened a number of times.
00:05:57.000In this particular situation, the young man came in.
00:05:59.000He got counseled, you know, and came out, praise God, on this certain time, believe in the truth.
00:06:07.000It's a lie that is implanted in these kids.
00:06:11.000A lot of them are just, they're searching for the truth.
00:09:44.000But to use the word preacher, pastor, counselor, shepherd, and then be a coward, I don't consider you to be somebody worthy of the ministry.
00:10:53.000But one of the things that we have to remember is a lot of times we will not speak truth because we understand that there are nuances in certain members of our congregation's life.
00:11:05.000Well, if I speak on this truth, I don't want to offend this person because I know they've been through something and there's some nuance to them.
00:11:10.000So we have a difficult time separating what needs to be spoken publicly from the pulpit and then our private conversations that we have with individuals.
00:11:18.000And what we end up doing if we do that too much is we will no longer speak the standard of God from the pulpit.
00:11:23.000And what we will do is we will speak to just to the individuals who we know in the congregation.
00:11:29.000And as a pastor, our job is to feed the flock good food.
00:11:32.000That means we feed them the word of God and let the Holy Spirit do the rest.
00:11:36.000But when we start fearing man and their response to that, then we completely give our authority over to the flock.
00:12:13.000But I'm going to read his quote: The reaction of evangelicals to political and cultural shifts in recent years revealed what they value most.
00:12:19.000Lurking beneath our Bible-laced rhetoric, faith claims, books, and sermons is a relentless drive to win.
00:13:04.000When we go out and say, well, I just want to play both sides, then what you're in effect doing is you're playing wickedness.
00:13:09.000Because if our job is to stand for truth, then you have just relinquished all truth and you turn your flock over to Satan because they're going to listen to someone.
00:13:18.000And if you won't lead them, somebody else will.
00:13:21.000He says, Jesus says, I'm the way, the truth, and life.
00:15:01.000So then let's go a level deeper in this in particular.
00:15:05.000Then since it's so clear to all of us, we're allegedly all reading the same book as Andy Stanley is: how could he come to a conclusion like this?
00:15:18.000It's a whole community of big Eva, of Ed Stetzer, of now deceased Timothy Keller and Rick Warren, of people that parrot this.
00:15:27.000So are they reading a different book than we are?
00:15:29.000No, but I think their mind has been shifted because their eyes have been shifted and what they're feeding their soul and their mind and their spirit.
00:15:36.000You know, the blinders have been put on, and so they're being able to receive what is not truth.
00:15:44.000At one point, they might have known truth or never really had developed a relationship with truth, but read about truth.
00:15:51.000There's a difference between having the relationship with Jesus and knowing Jesus.
00:15:56.000Well, being pastors and having the same Bible, there's no excuse.
00:16:00.000You can be deceived, but eventually it turns into a decision and then it turns into delusion.
00:16:05.000And as a pastor, you can't claim, oh, I've been deceived.
00:16:43.000You know, it's interesting, too, when you look at, especially since COVID, the churches that have really focused in on the cultural winds and the sails of their ships and have really joined in what society is dictating, and a large part because of the finances, because the butts and seats.
00:17:02.000It's so interesting, though, that the churches that stood up, they're the ones growing.
00:17:06.000The ones that allowed culture come through, they blew through and they're low in numbers.
00:17:13.000I mean, God raises up those that are obedient to him, regardless.
00:17:17.000But their counter-argument, if they were to be here, and I, you know, texted with Rick Warren back and forth, and he's a very forceful person.
00:17:27.000And yeah, I'll just leave it at that and has some very strong opinions and doesn't see it the way we do.
00:17:32.000And he will say, but Charlie, I have the baptisms to prove it.
00:17:36.000And we need to get a lost world in through the door.
00:17:41.000And speaking about politics will not get the lost through the door.
00:17:44.000It will not get the broken through the door.
00:17:47.000It scares me that pastors would say this because are they not preaching on sin?
00:17:55.000So what are they, what are they, what are they preaching on?
00:17:58.000I mean, are they preaching on redemption?
00:18:00.000I mean, are they preaching on what salvation really was for and what the cross was for and all these other things that go with the blood of Jesus?
00:19:10.000So that is a very, and look, I don't know, Pastor Rick, but I will say this: that statement is very arrogant and very prideful to steal God's glory like that.
00:19:20.000And that is an indication of where the mindset is.
00:19:22.000If you're going to actually say that, I would never say, I got this person to say, look what I did.
00:20:19.000We've got to call out the devil that's trying to get inside of everyone.
00:20:23.000So if all we're doing is trying to get people saved, then we're definitely not hitting what God has called us a shepherd.
00:20:32.000You know, politics is done by addition and multiplication, not by division and subtraction.
00:20:36.000And when I'm saying stuff like speaking about Rick Warren and the influence of my life, it's not because I'm advocating for his departure from the centrality.
00:20:46.000But I look at some of these guys and I have to just say that what they're trying to communicate is, we don't want you to go up and defend Trump from the pulpit.
00:21:19.000We're equipping saints under ministry.
00:21:21.000So let me ask you a question, guys, to go around the horn.
00:21:24.000What is one message, one verse, one chapter of one of your go-to sermons that if every pastor in the country internalized it and gave it, country would be in a better place.
00:21:47.000My pastor to this day, he was preaching on sin, and he preached, I mean, he preached me to repentance and complete transformation of my life.
00:21:58.000You can't be worried about what people are going to say or how they're going to judge you.
00:22:02.000God, when he released the word and the prophets and everybody wrote the Bible, they didn't ask me for my opinion.
00:22:11.000They didn't ask me what I thought, right?
00:22:53.000And then I would also say Galatians 3, 24, the law is a school teacher, guardian to point us to Christ until faith comes.
00:23:01.000So as we contend for the moral law in the public square, it causes people to be convicted of their sin and point them to the hope of Christ.
00:23:11.000But if it's a culture that everything's go, what are you saving them from?
00:23:20.000I would say 1 Timothy 3, 15 says, I write to you that you might know how to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is a church of the living God, the pillar and ground of truth.
00:23:32.000Truth is the highest value because on truth hangs every other value.
00:24:57.000Jesse, you were saying, both of you guys were saying, I think actually the table, this idea that truth becomes more costly if we don't stand in defense of it.
00:25:06.000And I think this last go-round, people didn't take the shot because they believed in its efficacy.
00:26:34.000Almost every aspect of the things that I spend my time in government, politics, culture, education, is the trans thing is not just on the fringes.
00:26:43.000It's the dominant state-run pagan belief of our time.
00:26:49.000So in Genesis 1 through 11, God laid out the distinctions that keep us free, distinctions between God and man, holy, profane, good and evil, man and woman.
00:26:56.000The transgender goes after every single one of them.
00:26:59.000It is one of the only things, even more so than even the abortion issue, does it go after the ultimate distinctions?
00:27:06.000And I'm not saying the abortion issue is not important.
00:27:10.000But this one's a whole new wrinkle of demonic activity because with the abortion issue, a lot of it was done in the shadows, done in private.
00:27:25.000And still people were forced to tolerate it.
00:27:28.000It goes after the false God and the fake pagan God of tolerance.
00:27:32.000It goes after the idea of how far is the church going to take it.
00:27:37.000The fact that if you have people at your church where the kids are getting recruited into and groomed into the transgender lifestyle, this is in the church actively.
00:27:48.000And I'll be honest, vast majority of churches are failing the test.
00:27:52.000I got in a big debate recently with a pastor in Austin, Texas.
00:27:55.000He said, I can't speak out about it until my elders have trans kids, 16-year-olds that had their breasts removed and they're in Lupron.
00:28:01.000And I can't, I'm not, we have to just love them.
00:28:04.000So the new position of the American Big Eva church is to love a child, is to cut off their breasts, give them hysterectomies, put them on Lupron, and then antidepressants that follow.
00:28:13.000So they're basically an annuity for the pharmaceutical companies.
00:28:17.000So that's the one where I say, if we cannot unite the entire body, I mean, the abortion issue, we were not able to unite the entire body, but at least most of it, there should not be a single dissenting voice.
00:28:39.000We'd be going a long walk without them.
00:28:41.000Yeah, we just are challenging to you and all pastors out there, get other pastors to attend our events, especially the ones that need it, the ones that are not speaking out.
00:28:50.000There are some great men that are leading churches right now that need to be speaking up and they aren't.