The Charlie Kirk Show - Why America Must Not Bomb Iran

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00:00:00.000 Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio.

00:00:04.000 Should we bomb Iran? 0.99

00:00:05.000 A very provocative and important conversation.

00:00:07.000 Now that Mike Waltz is out as National Security Advisor.

00:00:10.000 Nate Morris also joins the program, who's thinking about running for Senate in Kentucky.

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00:00:20.000 I want to hear from you.

00:00:21.000 Do you support bombing Iran?

00:00:22.000 Do you think it's a good idea?

00:00:23.000 Are there any downsides?

00:00:24.000 Do you think we should get involved in a war with Iran?

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00:01:34.000 We love hearing from you.

00:01:35.000 And actually, I want to provoke your response today because I'm infinitely curious, actually, of how you think and how you feel about the topic at hand.

00:01:44.000 The breaking news, of course, is the National Security Advisor, Mike Waltz, is out.

00:01:49.000 He is gone.

00:01:50.000 Now, the National Security Advisor is a non-Senate-confirmed position.

00:01:52.000 The National Security Advisor exists as the top national security point of contact between the president and what is called the NSC, the National Security Council.

00:02:01.000 The National Security Council partially is housed actually in the White House, but mostly is actually in the Eisenhower Executive Office building, which is technically on White House grounds.

00:02:10.000 It's that ugly, monolithic, big building right next to the White House.

00:02:14.000 Michael Waltz being the National Security Advisor, he did last longer than Michael Flynn, but of course Michael Flynn was taken out by our own government.

00:02:22.000 Now, there's always been, let's just say, upheaval when it comes to the national security position, when it comes to President Trump.

00:02:29.000 Famously, he had H.R. McMaster or John Bolton.

00:02:31.000 President Trump likes to put people in that role that are sometimes more hawkish, more aggressive than he is, as a way of kind of a negotiating tactic, is that when you walk into a room with John Bolton with Iran, they think, my goodness, that guy's a lunatic.

00:02:43.000 He might bomb us.

00:02:43.000 Then President Trump can kind of use that as a, let's just say, a leveraging tactic, as a negotiating tool.

00:02:51.000 Now, understand, the National Security Advisor is one of the first faces the President sees every single morning when it comes from a work context.

00:02:59.000 Every morning, the President receives his daily briefing.

00:03:01.000 The person who administers that daily briefing is the National Security Advisor.

00:03:05.000 So all night into the early hours of the morning, the National Security Council is compiling, let's just say, five to six bullet points of what the President needs to know.

00:03:13.000 Here's what's happening in Iran.

00:03:14.000 Here's what's happening with Russia. 0.53

00:03:15.000 Here's the threats from China. 0.99

00:03:16.000 Here's what's happening in cyber.

00:03:17.000 The National Security Advisor puts all of that together.

00:03:20.000 Goes straight up to the president after he consolidates what is the hub of the National Security Council and presents it to the president.

00:03:27.000 Mr. President, here's what's going on.

00:03:28.000 Here is your daily, confidential, classified, I should say, presidential briefing.

00:03:33.000 That person needs to get along very well with the president.

00:03:35.000 That person needs to have a good vibe and a good energy with the president because they spend a lot of time together.

00:03:41.000 Now, Mike Waltz, of course, famously added Jeffrey Goldberg to the Signal Chat.

00:03:47.000 The Signal Chat, of course, is one thing that was probably one of the more annoying developments of this administration so far.

00:03:55.000 Mike Waltz added the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, and we never got a really good answer of how that happened.

00:04:00.000 One of the excuses was, well, he saved his contacts with Jeffrey Goldberg, and then he wasn't sure who he was adding and why he was there and what was going on.

00:04:09.000 We're not exactly completely clear or, let's just say, you know, certain why that happened.

00:04:18.000 Now, Mike Waltz, after the attacks that happened in Yemen, the Houthi attacks, he famously sent the knuckle and emoji with the American flag and the flag.

00:04:28.000 Now, what is a neoconservative view of foreign policy?

00:04:44.000 Well, neoconservatism is actually a...

00:04:46.000 Outgrowth of Marxism from the 1940s and 50s, which it is a Trotskyite, Stalinist way of viewing the world, which is that we are going to expand the state to such great lengths, and we're going to bring American values by force to the rest of the world.

00:05:00.000 The architects of the Iraq War, the architects of the Vietnam War, and mind you, yesterday was the 50-year anniversary of the fall of Saigon.

00:05:08.000 Neoconservatives brought us into Vietnam, and so it is actually very fitting that a neoconservative falls the day after Saigon fell.

00:05:16.000 50 years ago.

00:05:17.000 Something to think about.

00:05:18.000 And so there's a major internal battle happening, and it is manifested with this Mike Waltz-Alex Wong situation.

00:05:25.000 Overall, this is a positive development for President Trump's administration.

00:05:29.000 Mike Waltz knows that I don't see eye to eye with him on many things.

00:05:31.000 I've said that to him in his face.

00:05:32.000 It's nothing personal.

00:05:33.000 I just don't think we should go to war with Iran.

00:05:35.000 And that is actually what I want your emails today.

00:05:37.000 I'm going to read them all.

00:05:39.000 I might not respond to them all, but I'm going to read them all.

00:05:40.000 You are representative of the conservative base.

00:05:43.000 You are in...

00:05:44.000 The front lines of the MAGA movement.

00:05:47.000 Do you support military strikes against Iran if they are developing a nuclear bomb?

00:05:52.000 It's a very important question.

00:05:53.000 Because, look, war with Iran, of course, is what Tom Cotton and Lindsey Graham want.

00:05:56.000 They've wanted that forever.

00:05:57.000 But what is instead being proposed is, well, what if we just do limited airstrikes?

00:06:02.000 You've got to also just take a step back.

00:06:04.000 Wait a second.

00:06:04.000 Why are we trusting our intel agencies so quickly?

00:06:06.000 We've only been in charge for 101 or 102 days.

00:06:09.000 We're all of a sudden going to trust the...

00:06:10.000 Biden hold of our intel agencies that are telling us Iran is close to a nuclear weapon after they have lied to us at every single corner and every turn.

00:06:19.000 The battle is over Iran, and there are people in Washington inside the Pentagon and inside the administration who want to launch military strikes on Iran.

00:06:28.000 Often they say it'd be easy, just one strike, in and out.

00:06:31.000 Now, pause.

00:06:32.000 How often have they actually been correct about the one in and out thing?

00:06:35.000 Has that ever actually been the case?

00:06:37.000 Oh yeah, we're just going to do some strikes in Libya.

00:06:39.000 Oh really?

00:06:39.000 Libya has been a catastrophe.

00:06:41.000 Libya has been a disaster ever since we removed Qaddafi.

00:06:45.000 By the way, Qaddafi is a really interesting example as to why Iran wants nuclear weapons. 0.68

00:06:50.000 Remember, Qaddafi voluntarily denuclearized.

00:06:53.000 Remember that?

00:06:55.000 Qaddafi voluntarily denuclearized and then he got sodomized in the streets of Libya.

00:06:59.000 And we still have troops in Libya.

00:07:01.000 And here's the honest truth.

00:07:03.000 America cannot and absolutely does need, does not and cannot afford a war with Iran.

00:07:08.000 Military strikes against Iran would be war against Iran.

00:07:11.000 Period.

00:07:12.000 And I want someone to make the argument why that is a good idea.

00:07:15.000 I've heard all the arguments.

00:07:16.000 And Mike Waltz represented a coalition of people in Washington, D.C. that were largely sympathetic to that.

00:07:23.000 Oh, it's just a couple military strikes.

00:07:25.000 Again, when have any of these people ever proven that it's just a couple military strikes?

00:07:29.000 It's always a further quagmire that gets us involved in these unnecessarily conflicts.

00:07:35.000 And then finally, let's just take a step back.

00:07:37.000 Iran, of course, the Ayatollahs of Iran are terrible. 1.00

00:07:39.000 Nobody likes them.

00:07:41.000 You must remember, they're only in power because of America, because of us.

00:07:46.000 We put them in power.

00:07:47.000 We displaced the Shah. 1.00

00:07:49.000 We displaced the democratically elected leader, Mossadegh, and put in the Shah, which then, of course, led to the Ayatollahs of Iran. 0.89

00:07:57.000 And then finally, is a nuclear weapon against Iran a threat to America?

00:08:01.000 Probably.

00:08:02.000 Could be.

00:08:03.000 A threat to Israel, but is it a threat to America? 0.99

00:08:05.000 I mean, India has nuclear weapons.

00:08:07.000 Pakistan has nuclear weapons.

00:08:10.000 So is it worth a potential another war with Iran?

00:08:18.000 And the people that are, let's just say, advocates for preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon by all means necessary.

00:08:26.000 They're the same architects that were perfectly fine with the Iraq War, the same designers of the Iraq War.

00:08:31.000 The primary way Iran can hurt this country is by sucking us into another Middle East quagmire, and they know it. 1.00

00:08:37.000 And Iran would have the potential to be the worst Middle East quagmire of all time. 1.00

00:08:41.000 Iran has 90 million people.

00:08:43.000 That's more than three times as big as Iraq was when we invaded 22 years ago.

00:08:47.000 It's larger than both Afghanistan and Iraq combined, both in population and in area.

00:08:52.000 Iraq was at least mostly a flat country.

00:08:55.000 It's a bunch of cities along a couple rivers, the Tigris and the Euphrates.

00:08:59.000 Iran isn't like that.

00:09:00.000 It's almost all mountains.

00:09:02.000 Iran has spent decades preparing specifically for war with the United States.

00:09:06.000 Their military has lots of weapons designed for fighting a much stronger adversary.

00:09:10.000 They have a lot of drones, a lot of speedboats, a lot of cheap, expendable weapons.

00:09:15.000 They're far more formidable than Iraq or the Taliban were. 0.80

00:09:18.000 And I seriously want your thoughts.

00:09:20.000 Email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:09:22.000 Would you...

00:09:23.000 Say it's a good idea to use military force to strike potential Iranian nuclear targets. 0.94

00:09:30.000 My whole life I've been told that Iran is getting a bomb.

00:09:32.000 Iran is getting a bomb. 0.84

00:09:34.000 Iran is getting a bomb. 0.84

00:09:35.000 Iran is getting a nuclear bomb. 0.53

00:09:36.000 And yet here in 2025 they do not have a nuclear bomb.

00:09:39.000 So why should we trust the American intelligence without verifying it?

00:09:44.000 Now the other side of the argument is, you know, kind of, oh, Iran is this big threat.

00:09:48.000 The same people that told us that Iraq was a big threat. 0.50

00:09:50.000 The same people that told us the Taliban was a big threat.

00:09:52.000 I'll be honest, fine.

00:09:54.000 I mean, I don't like Iran, but the evidence shows that every single one of these people, the last couple of decades, that is pushing for a conflict with Iran has not just failed miserably, has been one of the greatest catastrophes in American foreign policy ever.

00:10:08.000 Thousands of lives needlessly lost of Americans, millions of people displaced, trillions of dollars spent.

00:10:13.000 And let's be honest, at this particular moment, we cannot afford this war.

00:10:17.000 We are economically vulnerable.

00:10:19.000 There is massive de-dollarization happening.

00:10:21.000 We're trying a difficult manufacturing pivot with tariffs.

00:10:24.000 We've seen the rise of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:10:27.000 We blew our military reserves in Ukraine.

00:10:29.000 And now is the time that all of a sudden we want to try to get involved in another endless conflict.

00:10:34.000 Let me be clear.

00:10:35.000 It will not end with just military strikes.

00:10:37.000 If you strike Iran on the interior, you will have a war. 0.94

00:10:41.000 That is an act of war.

00:10:42.000 And if that's what you want, that's fine.

00:10:43.000 Make your case.

00:10:45.000 Email me freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:10:46.000 I come from a generation where we've seen nothing but...

00:10:51.000 Quagmire, controversy, toil.

00:10:54.000 It's worth thinking.

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00:11:57.000 Have the people that are clamoring for military strikes, do they have any credibility of the last 20 years?

00:12:04.000 Tell me how they've earned any credibility.

00:12:06.000 Even the strikes that Trump did,

00:12:08.000 Oh, it's just a small incursion against Persia.

00:12:24.000 Got it.

00:12:24.000 I want to hear from you on this.

00:12:26.000 I'm very interested.

00:12:27.000 Where is the Trump base?

00:12:28.000 Where are you on this?

00:12:30.000 And look, I'm not saying that if Iran gets a nuclear weapon, it's a good thing. 1.00

00:12:33.000 I mean, they're a bunch of maniacs.

00:12:34.000 Of course, they could deploy it to a drone and they could detonate it over America.

00:12:38.000 For the record, though, Pakistan could do the same thing.

00:12:40.000 Pakistan has nuclear weapons.

00:12:41.000 And Pakistan harbored bin Laden.

00:12:43.000 Russia could do the same thing.

00:12:44.000 We're firing weapons into the interior of Russia. 0.72

00:12:47.000 And so if we were to strike Iran or if we were to support Israel to support Iran, It is very tempting to view this like it's just a game of risk. 0.52

00:12:57.000 Ooh, I struck them.

00:12:58.000 We won.

00:12:59.000 No, that's an escalation.

00:13:01.000 Is them getting a nuclear weapon good? 0.72

00:13:04.000 No, we're not making that argument.

00:13:05.000 No one here is making that argument.

00:13:06.000 Of course not.

00:13:07.000 But lots of things are bad that we shouldn't risk destroying America to stop.

00:13:12.000 Let me say that again.

00:13:13.000 There's lots of bad things that we should not risk destroying America to stop.

00:13:17.000 And for me, this is a hard and fast red line.

00:13:20.000 We did not run on war with Iran.

00:13:23.000 We did not run on striking Iran. 0.66

00:13:25.000 And I know the president agrees.

00:13:26.000 I know the president agrees with this, which is why he's trying to actually talk to Iran.

00:13:31.000 The situation we're looking at right now is invading Iran losing the global dollar.

00:13:36.000 How about this?

00:13:37.000 I will be more open.

00:13:39.000 Here's my open challenge.

00:13:40.000 I will be more open to someone striking Iran if you could tell me how their government works.

00:13:48.000 Can anyone tell me how their government works?

00:13:50.000 Do you know that no one actually knows how their government works?

00:13:52.000 We have like a vague idea.

00:13:54.000 Even Blake, the smartest person I know, he's like, yeah, we kind of have an idea, but it's really kind of strange.

00:14:00.000 And you go around D.C., the people that want to strike Iran, and we're told that they're nothing but an irrational actor.

00:14:07.000 Of course they're evil.

00:14:09.000 We did a whole show against Islam yesterday. 1.00

00:14:11.000 Got it.

00:14:13.000 But if you listen to the president's words on Iran, it's very telling.

00:14:15.000 I want Iran to have a great future, and they have an opportunity to have a great and prosperous future.

00:14:21.000 And let me just reiterate this.

00:14:23.000 Reject the premise.

00:14:24.000 You have to prove it to us.

00:14:26.000 The neoconservatives have not earned our trust.

00:14:31.000 Now, interestingly, if we were to strike Iran, it would actually strengthen Islamic fundamentalism around the world. 0.90

00:14:38.000 You would think that, well, striking Iran actually puts a step back against it. 0.87

00:14:41.000 No.

00:14:41.000 The West striking the interior and the home of Shia Islam would actually only further terrorist attacks against us in the West.

00:14:51.000 It would only strengthen their resolve.

00:14:55.000 And the other thing is this, is that Iran is actually getting weaker with time, actually.

00:14:58.000 We have sanctions on them.

00:15:00.000 I'm not even talking about removing sanctions.

00:15:02.000 The government is unpopular.

00:15:03.000 We, on the Charlie Kirk Show, we get thousands of messages of young kids on the dark web or whatever they call it that message us on TikTok.

00:15:11.000 Saying, I'm not allowed to do this, but I love your videos, and we're from Persia, and we love you guys.

00:15:16.000 The Iranian people are becoming less Islamist.

00:15:19.000 If we struck Iran, they would rally around Islam. 1.00

00:15:22.000 It would give them a rallying cry.

00:15:24.000 Think about it.

00:15:25.000 When a country is attacked, you get blinded by everything, and then the most radical ideology is ascendant.

00:15:31.000 We can and can continue weak in the government.

00:15:34.000 We're bankrupting them like Trump did the first time.

00:15:36.000 No one's debating any of that.

00:15:38.000 And I want to just say this.

00:15:39.000 I have a heart for the Persian people.

00:15:41.000 The Persian people are some of the most industrious.

00:15:43.000 They're some of the hardest working.

00:15:45.000 They're some of the highest IQ.

00:15:46.000 But if you strike Iran, and this is my number one reason why I'm not a neoconservative, is that it's so prideful. 0.98

00:15:53.000 As if you can map out every single action and have every other predictive element.

00:15:59.000 Oh, if we strike and then this will happen and this won't happen.

00:16:02.000 No, it turns out that you can't predict the future.

00:16:06.000 And when you drop a bunch of bombs on a country and probably murder a bunch of kids and a bunch of women, because you know the Iranian government, they probably have a bunch of schools right next to nuclear sites, so keep that in mind, because they're not dumb.

00:16:17.000 They probably built just the way Hamas does, human shields right around these nuclear sites, and you're going to go kill a bunch of their top scientists and a bunch of their infrastructure. 0.91

00:16:26.000 How do you think they're going to respond?

00:16:28.000 They'll respond with an actual declaration of war.

00:16:31.000 They'll close the Strait of Hormuz.

00:16:33.000 They'll start kidnapping Americans. 0.99

00:16:35.000 And they did that, of course, in the Munich Olympics.

00:16:38.000 It's not as simple as we're just going to strike them.

00:16:41.000 I'm not saying the situation is simple.

00:16:43.000 This is a very, very high wire act.

00:16:45.000 Incredibly so.

00:16:46.000 And one of the reasons why Mike Waltz being gone is an interesting development is it's one less neoconservative that are pushing this.

00:16:55.000 Now, of course, no one wants Iran to get nuclear weapons.

00:16:58.000 But again, I love Israel, but let's be honest.

00:17:00.000 This is more of Israel pushing for Iran than to get Israel weapons, not America.

00:17:03.000 And that's fine.

00:17:04.000 I mean, Israel should do that.

00:17:06.000 Israel should advocate for its own self-defense. 0.98

00:17:08.000 And I love Israel, and I advocate for Israel.

00:17:10.000 Israel has done a poor job, by the way, in the PR war of actually telling us why this is bad for America. 0.66

00:17:15.000 So maybe they need to do a better job of that.

00:17:19.000 But is that America's problem?

00:17:22.000 That's a question.

00:17:22.000 I mean, maybe the answer is yes.

00:17:24.000 Maybe the answer is, you know what?

00:17:25.000 They were wrong about Iraq.

00:17:26.000 They were wrong about Syria.

00:17:27.000 They were wrong about Afghanistan.

00:17:28.000 They were wrong about the Taliban.

00:17:29.000 They were wrong about Libya.

00:17:30.000 They were wrong about the Arab Spring.

00:17:32.000 They were wrong about Yemen.

00:17:33.000 They were wrong about the Arab Peninsula.

00:17:35.000 They were wrong about the 9-11 hijackers being Saudi Arabian.

00:17:38.000 But hey, 10th time's the charm.

00:17:40.000 This time, we're actually right.

00:17:43.000 Yeah, you're going to have to earn our trust on this one.

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00:18:55.000 I could have been more precise in how I said one of the things prior, is that the American government did nothing to prevent the 9-11 hijackers from Saudi Arabia to gain access into the interior of the United States.

00:19:05.000 So I listed that off as one of the failures, which of course is correct, that 9-11 was largely an immigration failure more than anything else. 1.00

00:19:12.000 It was an intelligence and immigration failure. 1.00

00:19:15.000 It wasn't a we-did-not-invade-enough-countries failure.

00:19:18.000 And so that was just wanted to make sure that was clear.

00:19:20.000 I could have said that better in the prior segment.

00:19:23.000 Okay, joining us now is Nate Morris, a very successful businessman from Kentucky, and he's been on the program prior.

00:19:30.000 Nate, great to see you.

00:19:31.000 Thanks for taking the time.

00:19:32.000 Nate, I want to get your initial thought here about the immigration judges blocking Donald Trump.

00:19:38.000 This is a major issue.

00:19:39.000 And what do you think could be done about this?

00:19:42.000 Well, Charlie, I think it's absolutely crazy that we have these activist judges that are thwarting the rule of law and the Constitution.

00:19:51.000 And if I were in the Senate today, I think one of the things that we should do is we should defund these judges.

00:19:56.000 And if that's not effective, then they need to be impeached.

00:19:59.000 They need to go.

00:20:01.000 And as you've seen, Charlie, we've got so many of these activist judges that are thwarting the rule of law that continue to cause chaos and continue to put these leftist agendas.

00:20:12.000 The Senate and the people in Washington, we got to stand up, the people, the patriots that are there, and fight this stuff once and for all.

00:20:19.000 So I want to dive deeper into that.

00:20:21.000 Why do you think that Senate Republicans right now, I mean, Mitch McConnell being one of them from the state that you come from, Kentucky, are so unwilling to stand up against this judicial despotism?

00:20:34.000 Well, Charlie, look, these are career politicians.

00:20:37.000 And we know that career politicians protect the swamp at all costs.

00:20:41.000 This is how their cronies, their lobbyists, this is how they make their money.

00:20:45.000 They don't want to disrupt anything going on in Washington.

00:20:48.000 They've had a good thing going because they've been up there forever.

00:20:51.000 They've all gotten rich.

00:20:52.000 And this is something that they want to continue on as they continue to hold office.

00:20:58.000 And they don't want anybody from the outside coming in and shaking things up.

00:21:02.000 And we've seen this over and over again with the things that Mitch McConnell has consistently done Not only to oppose President Trump, but to continue to cause chaos related to the America First agenda, period.

00:21:15.000 And speaking of America First, we did our entire open here about a potential war with Iran or military strikes with Iran.

00:21:22.000 How are the people of Kentucky feeling about the nonstop foreign intervention in other countries?

00:21:29.000 And do you think that it's a good idea for us to continue to saber-rattle and to get involved in foreign lands when our own country is doing rather poorly?

00:21:37.000 Well, Charlie, look, I think this is going to be a critical issue in this Senate race that so many people are talking about.

00:21:44.000 Who's going to replace Mitch McConnell?

00:21:46.000 And we've had somebody with Mitch McConnell that has continued to back up the truck for Zelensky in Ukraine.

00:21:52.000 And it's absolutely crazy.

00:21:55.000 That we have so many people that are so concerned about these foreign wars and continuing to drive conflict at all costs.

00:22:02.000 And I think one of the things as a business guy and an outsider, I've seen this and I'm scratching my head and I'm saying, why do we continue to do this?

00:22:10.000 We know it doesn't work.

00:22:12.000 And you've got two other people potentially, well, that are actually in this race and they've continued to have the same position as Mitch McConnell.

00:22:20.000 And that's one of the reasons why.

00:22:21.000 I've been so adamant to say, hey, I'm looking at this race.

00:22:25.000 We've got to come in and stop these foreign wars that are senseless, that are driven by this globalist agenda.

00:22:32.000 And it's taken a business person like President Trump and our Vice President J.D. Vance to say enough is enough.

00:22:39.000 And to say, how do we negotiate?

00:22:42.000 How do we use our economic leverage to get the best deal?

00:22:46.000 And I'm so pleased that we're now bringing...

00:22:49.000 Russia and Ukraine together over economics, where we can get a deal done, as opposed to continuing to waste all this money, back up the truck to Zelensky and all his cronies, and finally get peace.

00:23:02.000 I think that's what the rest of the world wants here.

00:23:04.000 They want peace.

00:23:05.000 And it's taking a business leader and an outsider to get that done, Charlie.

00:23:10.000 Yeah, so let's go deeper into that.

00:23:12.000 To have an outsider actually talk about foreign policy would be very refreshing.

00:23:17.000 And the key should always be what is in the United States' national interests, including from the border and from foreign involvement and entanglement.

00:23:26.000 The United States Senate is largely composed of neoconservatives, people that want to see more, let's just say, war, more invasion.

00:23:36.000 And they've been wrong about Iraq.

00:23:37.000 They were wrong about Syria.

00:23:38.000 They were wrong about Libya.

00:23:40.000 Why do you think there all of a sudden is the call for more foreign intervention in Iran?

00:23:45.000 Well, look, this has been a drumbeat that the neocons have had now for, what, Charlie, two decades?

00:23:50.000 And this is the biggest business in the world.

00:23:53.000 I mean, think about all the money that's at stake in Washington, D.C. from these career politicians.

00:23:58.000 This is the lobbying dollars.

00:23:59.000 This is how people make their money.

00:24:01.000 And we know that this is not going to work.

00:24:04.000 And I'm so proud of President Trump because his first term was all about cutting off all the nonsense that Obama started with Iran and that ludicrous deal.

00:24:14.000 Funding Iran and saying enough is enough. 0.95

00:24:18.000 And how do we keep the peace?

00:24:20.000 You know, we've got enough of our own problems, Charlie.

00:24:23.000 You know this.

00:24:24.000 We've got to take care of our own first.

00:24:26.000 If our own house isn't in order, we can't be great as a country.

00:24:31.000 And we've got so many problems here domestically.

00:24:34.000 We've got so many people that are...

00:24:36.000 Not making a living that their jobs were outsourced to Mexico or somewhere else around the world.

00:24:41.000 We've got to take care of our own and stop worrying about what everybody else is doing until we get our house in order, period.

00:24:49.000 So the Senate Republicans right now are doing little next to nothing.

00:24:53.000 If you were to be in the U.S. Senate, what would be the top priorities for you?

00:24:57.000 And where do you think Kentucky is not being well served by the McConnell cabal?

00:25:01.000 Well, look, Charlie.

00:25:03.000 Mitch McConnell has had a stranglehold on Kentucky politics for the last 40 years.

00:25:09.000 Now, keep in mind, when Mitch McConnell got to office, we didn't have the internet.

00:25:13.000 The internet had not been invented.

00:25:16.000 President Ronald Reagan was in power.

00:25:18.000 I mean, think about that for a minute.

00:25:20.000 I was four years old when Mitch McConnell came to office.

00:25:23.000 And what I would say, Charlie, is what does Mitch McConnell really know about the small business owners?

00:25:30.000 The people that are trying to make it in the new economy.

00:25:33.000 The people that are trying to innovate.

00:25:36.000 The people that are trying to live the American dream.

00:25:39.000 And their American dream was taken for them by the elites.

00:25:43.000 You know, Charlie, I'm proud that 19 of my family members worked in an auto plant in Louisville.

00:25:49.000 And proud UAW members.

00:25:51.000 We built cars for a living.

00:25:52.000 That's what my family did.

00:25:54.000 And when folks got outsourced or people lost their job, we knew who they were.

00:25:58.000 We knew their families.

00:25:59.000 We knew the impact.

00:26:00.000 And we've had these elites and this ruling class that with the push of a button, they've sent their jobs overseas. 0.62

00:26:08.000 And so many young men, especially, that I see, they feel left out of this economy.

00:26:14.000 And they don't know how to participate.

00:26:16.000 They don't know how to get back in the game because they saw their father or their grandfather lose their job generations ago and it hasn't come back.

00:26:23.000 And so I think number one is we've got to have...

00:26:27.000 A path to the American dream for every Kentuckian and have somebody that's connected at the ground level to say, I've lived it, you know, starting a business with $10,000 on a credit card and taking my company public.

00:26:39.000 I've lived the dream and I want every Kentuckian to have access to that dream as well.

00:26:44.000 And right now, President Trump is leading that.

00:26:47.000 I want to talk about tariffs and trade for a second.

00:26:49.000 Let's cue it up here with Stephen Miller.

00:26:51.000 Playcut 440, about how President Trump is combining all the forces together to have the best possible trade deals, which involves Kentucky, right?

00:27:00.000 Kentucky coal, Kentucky manufacturing.

00:27:02.000 Playcut 440.

00:27:03.000 Right now, countries from all over the world, because of President Trump's leadership, are desperate and dying to make trade deals with the United States.

00:27:10.000 We're going to evaluate each of those deals, and President Trump is personally involved in making sure that these negotiations serve only one interest, which is the interest of the United States of America.

00:27:21.000 What a novel concept, Nate.

00:27:23.000 What do you have to make of President Trump's trade deals and the tariffs, and how you would navigate that if you were in the U.S. Senate?

00:27:32.000 Are fantastic.

00:27:33.000 Because you know what, Charlie?

00:27:34.000 We're finally using our economic might to get the best deal.

00:27:39.000 And it's taken a business leader like President Trump to be able to say, we've got all this leverage.

00:27:45.000 And why have we been squandering this leverage and not using our economic might to work out the best deal possible?

00:27:52.000 And all these other countries have been ripping off America, ripping off the American worker. 0.99

00:27:57.000 And it's time we put the American worker first. 0.76

00:28:00.000 And I think this is what this is all about, Charlie.

00:28:03.000 And I can tell you, I'm really proud that the United Auto Workers in particular have really been so supportive of President Trump and what he's doing.

00:28:14.000 This is my family, the folks that work in the auto plant.

00:28:17.000 You know, Kentucky's a big auto state, Charlie.

00:28:19.000 This is very, very important to us.

00:28:21.000 And we manufacture better than anybody in the United States.

00:28:24.000 I'm so proud of what we build right here in Kentucky.

00:28:27.000 And I also think, Charlie...

00:28:29.000 That as a matter of national security, we have to make stuff in this country.

00:28:34.000 If we get into times of conflict or times of crisis, we've got to have the infrastructure in this country to not only build the things that protect our nation, but also protect our people.

00:28:43.000 And I think that's what President Trump has made this all about.

00:28:46.000 And I'm 100% behind the president in what he's doing.

00:28:50.000 One minute remaining here, Nate.

00:28:51.000 Talk more about your biography, and I know you're thinking about potentially going to the U.S. Senate out of Kentucky, which, boy, do we need someone that has no ties to McConnell whatsoever.

00:28:59.000 Please, the floor is yours, Nate.

00:29:01.000 Tell the audience more about your ambition, potentially, to make sure McConnell no longer rules the state of Kentucky.

00:29:09.000 Well, Charlie, I'm so proud that I'm a ninth-generation Kentuckian.

00:29:13.000 I was raised by a single mother right here in the Commonwealth.

00:29:17.000 19 of my family members worked in an auto plant, as I mentioned.

00:29:20.000 I come from a working-class, blue-collar home.

00:29:23.000 I was lucky enough to get scholarships to get a great education.

00:29:27.000 And I started a business with about $10,000 on a credit card, ended up taking that company public at $2 billion on the New York Stock Exchange in the industry of waste.

00:29:37.000 And I think it's time, Charlie, that we take out the garbage in Washington, D.C., time to take out the trash.

00:29:43.000 And I think we need someone who's a disruptor.

00:29:46.000 Someone that's an outsider.

00:29:48.000 I'm not a career politician.

00:29:49.000 I've never run for office.

00:29:51.000 But I'm so inspired by my friend J.D. Vance, all the progress that he's making every day to fight for the working person in D.C. And he's got me inspired.

00:30:02.000 And that's why I'm taking a look at this race. 0.98

00:30:04.000 And I think it's time that we have a complete and utter change for Mitch McConnell.

00:30:09.000 And the two guys that are in this race right now, they're going to be McConnell 2.0.

00:30:14.000 And it's time that we break that cycle of career politicians and send somebody to Washington who can shake things up.

00:30:21.000 Very good.

00:30:22.000 Got to run.

00:30:22.000 Nate, thank you so much and hope to see some big stuff from you soon.

00:30:25.000 We need Kentucky to have better representation. 0.76

00:30:27.000 Thank you.

00:30:30.000 Y-R-E-F-Y.com.

00:30:32.000 That is Y-R-E-F-Y.com.

00:31:03.000 The emails are largely in the direction of no war with Iran, but I'm going to read just some.

00:31:09.000 So this one here.

00:31:10.000 Charlie, I agree.

00:31:10.000 Why should we trust the intel now?

00:31:12.000 I agree with you.

00:31:12.000 Stay cool regarding Iran.

00:31:15.000 Clint says, hell no, we shouldn't strike.

00:31:17.000 There's a lot of hell no's, I have to say, a lot.

00:31:19.000 Valerie says, we do not need to go to war with Iran.

00:31:21.000 Deep State always uses the same line.

00:31:23.000 They're at a weak point.

00:31:24.000 It will be a fast and easy it never is.

00:31:25.000 That's a great point, Valerie.

00:31:26.000 That is a great point.

00:31:27.000 The Deep State is on defense right now, and nothing will make themselves more important and validated than military strikes with Iran. 0.91

00:31:35.000 Ask yourself the question, if the Deep State of the American government wants military strikes with Iran, is it a good idea? 0.99

00:31:40.000 I'm sick to death of neocons, Valerie says.

00:31:42.000 A listener from Chicago says, Dear Charlie, the waves of Islam are hitting America and are like landing parties from Iran.

00:31:51.000 I agree it's good to be skeptical of intelligence, but at the same time you shouldn't dismiss the threat of Iran out of hand. 1.00

00:31:56.000 So I don't want to dismiss it, but I will say though that actually striking Iran can cause more problems.

00:32:00.000 In fact, remember, a lot of the reasons why we have Islam taking over Europe is because we invaded Iraq and because we struck Syria and we had the Syrian civil war. 0.99

00:32:13.000 Islamic migration to the West. 0.52

00:32:15.000 Wasn't our intention, but that's what, remember, neoconservatism is invade the world, invite the world. 0.79

00:32:19.000 We will strike the Middle East, we will invade it, and then we'll have to invite them in. 1.00

00:32:24.000 People often tell us that Iran killed the most people, our people in Iraq.

00:32:28.000 In fact, we get a lot of those emails.

00:32:30.000 Okay, granting that was true, why were we in Iraq in the first place?

00:32:34.000 So, here's another no.

00:32:35.000 Let me read this one here.

00:32:37.000 Lane says, truly appreciate your simple definition of neocons at the top of the show.

00:32:40.000 It helped me explain to others.

00:32:41.000 I also appreciate your vocal opposition to the current neocon regime.

00:32:44.000 I'm more hopeful now that Waltz is out.

00:32:47.000 Okay.

00:32:47.000 Let me go to one that is positive of striking Iran.

00:32:50.000 This is one from Aaron.

00:32:52.000 I'm absolutely supportive of Iran being attacked and redeemed from a terrorist national state to a respectable national state. 0.95

00:32:57.000 Now, let me pause.

00:32:58.000 Guys, striking Iran actually might make the Ayatollahs stronger. 1.00

00:33:01.000 Let me just say that again.

00:33:02.000 When you strike a country, a strongman dictator can hold on to power more easily because he can rally his domestic population and effectively declare martial law.

00:33:11.000 This one says here, Israel must be protected from a nuclear power, Iran. 0.97

00:33:14.000 It's sad, but how does the United States help Israel against Iran while being on alert on China? 0.50

00:33:19.000 Okay, I want to respond to that partially.

00:33:21.000 I am not discounting Iran being a threat to Israel. 1.00

00:33:24.000 That is 100% correct.

00:33:27.000 But is it America's job to do everything for Israel?

00:33:30.000 And just to be clear, the only way that you're going to get rid of the Ayatollah is by invading. 0.98

00:33:34.000 You cannot do that with strikes.

00:33:36.000 And it would be catastrophic.

00:33:39.000 So enormously catastrophic, we can't even put it into words.

00:33:44.000 Love your show, and we agree on these things.

00:33:45.000 I've never been compelled to call in, and I love the work that you do, but to hear today try to slant your audience as much as possible the way you're thinking we should not go to Iran is dangerously irresponsible.

00:33:53.000 I've not been a neocon, but completely favor over methods to destabilize this government and punish it rather than reward them.

00:33:59.000 Really.

00:34:01.000 She says at the end, or Scott says at the end, I know I sound like John Bolton.

00:34:05.000 I'm favoring an all-out war and wiping them out regardless of the cost. 1.00

00:34:09.000 That's one of the emails here.

00:34:10.000 That person should never be allowed near power.

00:34:12.000 Glad you're listening to The Charlie Kirk Show.

00:34:14.000 I hope you never become national security advisor.

00:34:16.000 Let me read this again.

00:34:17.000 Quote, I'm favoring an all-out war and wiping them out regardless of the cost. 0.89

00:34:22.000 Wow.

00:34:23.000 Okay, let's go here to more emails.

00:34:26.000 This is from Paul.

00:34:29.000 We do not want war against Iran.

00:34:30.000 This is not our fight.

00:34:31.000 Do not do this.

00:34:32.000 I would say most of the citizens of Iran do not want this government.

00:34:35.000 What is the point of destroying their lives?

00:34:37.000 Jackie says, my family and I agree it's not a good idea to strike Iran.

00:34:40.000 Pray it does not happen.

00:34:42.000 And so look, if the United States supported Israel, that would be very troubling because, I mean, I'm sorry, if Iran, if Israel struck Iran, let me just put it that way. 0.56

00:34:49.000 If Israel struck Iran, then are we funding that? 0.51

00:34:52.000 Are we subsidizing it?

00:34:53.000 And by the way, we would be drug into that.

00:34:56.000 It's lots to think about.

00:34:57.000 No easy answers here.

00:34:59.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast.

00:35:02.000 Again, one of the major issues is trust and credibility, but also should we be bombing other countries?

00:35:07.000 Have we done enough of that?

00:35:09.000 Has it worked?

00:35:11.000 Has it worked?

00:35:12.000 Last one.

00:35:13.000 No, we should not bomb Iran.

00:35:14.000 I was drafted for Vietnam on 1-5-71.

00:35:17.000 I'm still trying to figure out where we're in that war.

00:35:19.000 Good closing thought.

00:35:20.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:21.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:23.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - May 01, 2025

Why America Must Not Bomb Iran

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