On this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie talks with Turning Point USA founder Don Gaffigan about his new book, "Right Wing Revolution" and how he and his organization are fighting for freedom and freedom on campuses across the country. Don talks about how important it is to not care so much about what people call you, and how to deal with name calling and what it does to you. He also talks about the importance of not caring so much what the media calls you and why you should care less about what they call you. This is a must listen episode for anyone who wants to learn how to fight for freedom in the 21st century. Click here to listen to the full episode. You can't ask for much more. Peace, Blessings, Cheers, Cheers. -EDGAR AND JOSH MILLER Charlie Kirk is the host of the "Charlie Kirk Show" on the Charlie K. Kirk Show on the WDFA Radio Network. He is also the founder and CEO of Turning PointUSA and is the author of the book, Right Wing Revolution. His book is available for purchase on Amazon and is available in Kindle, iBook, Paperback, Hardcover, and Audio Book format. If you are a Kindle reader, you can read the book on any good book on amazon.co.uk. or Podchaser, you download it for free on the Kindle, or download it on the Apple App Store, or wherever else you get your Kindle Fire, or any other good book recommendation, you get a copy of the Kindle device, it will be available for $19.99 or Audible, or you can get it for $99.99, and it will give you 5 stars for 49.99.00.00, and get 20% off. That includes Audible. .99, Audible and Audible $99, I am giving you 5 star review, I'll get $5,99, Bespoke 4GBR, and I'll be giving you 4GB Provenza 5 GBR4 Pro, 5GBR 4GB 4GBRLRP 4GB, and MySpace 4GB 3GBR 3GB, or 4GB RRP 3GBRL 4GB4GBR4 4GB3, and 3GB4R4GB4Q4, and Aptavio 4GBRT 4GB5, and GCS 4GB 5GB4 4Q44R5, I hope you like it!
00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, my book promo has been going really well, so I wanted to give you some of the best conversations I've had with different hosts.
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00:00:37.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:44.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:01:21.000My good friend, Turning Point USA founder, host of the Charlie Kirk Show, and author of the new book, Right-Wing Revolution, the one and only Charlie Kirk.
00:01:35.000If there's one person who could take a lot of credit, in fact, the most credit for Turning Point's success, And everything, it's you.
00:01:42.000You've always believed in us from the very beginning.
00:01:44.000There's a lot of people that say, I was there when, but Don, you believed in me and our movement when I was wearing oversized suits and traveling across the country.
00:03:44.000I am highly critical of the Republican Party because they deserve it.
00:03:47.000The Republican Party does not fight to win.
00:03:49.000The Republican Party is like the Vichy French.
00:03:52.000They are the moderate wing of the Democrat Party.
00:03:55.000We must understand that most Republicans are actually part of the Democrat Party when it comes to sending money to Ukraine or allowing our borders wide open.
00:04:03.000One of the chapters we have here in Right-Wing Revolution is curing red state laziness.
00:04:08.000Again, there's so much information in this book.
00:04:42.000There's a whole chapter in this book that if we're serious about beating the woke, we must recognize we actually control more of this country than we realize.
00:04:50.000We control 29 governor's mansions, 31 attorney general's offices.
00:05:03.000I mean, but you see that, you're right.
00:05:04.000I mean, in the comments on here, so much of it is like, well, we're all complaining, we're all bitching about it, but like, what do we actually do?
00:05:12.000And I think you're right, you know, that apathy.
00:05:14.000Some of the most conservative states in the entire union have literally the weakest conservative leadership at I have a theory about this.
00:05:22.000that out. I don't understand it. You can run a great America first patriot, and the Washington,
00:05:28.000D.C. pseudo-Democrat that just has an R next to his name, but is functioning like a Democrat,
00:05:34.000seems to always pull it off. So I have a theory about this.
00:05:37.000I talk about it in the book, which is if your state is too red, Democrats, like actual
00:05:42.000Democrats, not right, like actual Democrats, then they run as Republicans because there's no chance that
00:05:47.000Democrats get elected. And so, you take states where you should have great representation,
00:05:53.000like Kentucky, or Texas, or Idaho, and you get some of the most moderate senators
00:05:57.000that you could imagine that are effectively Democrats.
00:06:00.000However, when states are not that right wing and you have to compete, you actually get better representatives.
00:06:08.000Ron Johnson is amazing, and Ron Johnson has been a great fighter For the America First agenda, and he's been a great fighter for your father.
00:06:16.000Ohio is a red state, but it's not like Oklahoma.
00:06:20.000So you actually get better representatives when you have to earn your voters, and you get better Republicans when there's actually a Democrat party around.
00:06:28.000And I know that might sound like a little weird, but when there's only one show in town in Idaho, in Oklahoma, where do the Democrats go?
00:06:40.000And so curing that red state laziness, and we need to, as America First Patriots, as those of us that are part of the MAGA movement, we must hold our Republicans to a higher standard.
00:06:51.000You know, in this book, I go into detail.
00:06:52.000You know, everyone complains about CRT, right?
00:06:54.000Everyone complains about diversity, equity, inclusion.
00:06:57.000Why is it then that $120 million a year in Oklahoma is spent on schools that have LGBT centers, Q plus centers, that have DEI and critical race theory?
00:07:08.00077 counties in Oklahoma voted for Donald Trump, every single county.
00:07:12.000And yet, they have some of the wokest left-wing schools in the country.
00:07:16.000That's just one example of hundreds that we have in the book, and curing that red state laziness is so important.
00:07:22.000And then finally, it needs to be an attitude shift.
00:07:24.000Far too often, I run into Republicans that say, well, we want to save the country, but we do not want to stoop down to the level of the Democrats.
00:07:32.000Honestly, Don, I used to believe that.
00:07:33.000I used to be, like, way more, like, principled.
00:07:36.000We've thought about that a couple of times.
00:07:39.000I mean, that was, like, 2017 Charlie Kirk or 2018.
00:07:42.000And I kind of cringed at myself back then.
00:07:44.000But honestly, I talk about in the book, that kind of development that I've went through was a really necessary one because I used to believe in our institutions.
00:07:53.000I used to believe that the winner is the one that has the better argument.
00:07:57.000No, the winner is the one that is willing to use political power when necessary.
00:08:06.000I wish we were fighting Democrats that cared about who actually had the better argument.
00:08:10.000So again, don't mean to go on too long about that, but we must be willing to use political power to reciprocate, because if we don't, we are going to have great ideas in jail.
00:08:47.000I legitimately think that's on the table.
00:08:48.000I can see that based on what they've tried to do to me over the last eight years, what they're trying to do to my father, what they did to, you know, J6ers and even incredibly, you know, peaceful people taking selfies inside the velvet ropes.
00:08:59.000And, you know, it's a disparate treatment.
00:09:03.000Every time, every election cycle, everyone's always said, well, this one's the most important ever.
00:09:07.000I mean, this time it actually Really feels like it.
00:09:10.000It used to be a cliche, but when you look at what they're actually doing, not what they're saying anymore or what they're perhaps alluding to a little bit, but what they're actually doing.
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00:10:37.000It says, hey, we're losing those demographic, we're losing African-Americans, we're losing Hispanics, so let's bring in people that'll be permanent dependents and will vote for us.
00:11:26.000Actually, an ordinary, boring, simple way of life is what I argue for in the book.
00:11:32.000And here's the best analogy that I could give, is that if you're trying to go north from Washington D.C.
00:11:39.000to northeast to New York, and you look at your GPS and all of a sudden you're in West Virginia, you're way off course.
00:11:45.000And in order to even get back on course, you need to go east before you can go north.
00:11:48.000That's very similar to the American political context.
00:11:50.000We've gone so far to the left that what is right-wing is now actually very moderate.
00:11:55.000That what is considered right-wing Everything that's not the radical left is right-wing at this point.
00:12:02.000If you don't subscribe to, you know, a three-year-old should be able to, without parental consent, go through life-altering sex change operations, you are a right-wing extremist.
00:12:12.000So you're right that if you took the bell curve, and this used to be center, literally, and this is a far left, anything You know, out of the, you know, second standard deviation is, you know, extreme right wing.
00:12:24.000And, you know, I'd argue that today's conservative movement would be, you know, quite left of center compared to historically.
00:12:32.000You know, we've kept being left being reasonable, but I think our reasonableness, unfortunately, is eating us alive because they just chip away at it each and every day.
00:12:41.000It's always, you know, a death by a thousand cuts.
00:12:44.000Oh yeah, JFK would be considered a far-right extremist in today's American political system.
00:12:50.000They'd be like, JFK's a fascist because he's asking not what the government can do for you, but what you can do for the government.
00:13:09.000We want a right-wing revolution, but we're not asking for anything that is that dramatic.
00:13:14.000What we want is to understand that we want the country we grew up in, and you more than me, Don, you remember the country, and I lived in it for a period of time.
00:14:53.000Mostly, you know, young kids motivated.
00:14:56.000I saw, candidly, you know, every demographic.
00:14:59.000A lot of, you know, a lot of people you wouldn't have, you know, sort of, you had in your bingo card that were there that were either, you know, conservative or literally came up to me like, hey man, I've voted Democrat my whole life and I'm over it.
00:15:15.000So, you know, what you guys are doing there, and for those of you who are watching, who have young kids, you know, Check out a Turning Point chapter, you know, if they're in college or in high school.
00:15:23.000You know, get them involved in all of this.
00:15:26.000There is a momentum and we're breaking through that, the stigma of being a conservative.
00:17:06.000Under Donald Trump, it required about $71,000 a year in annual income to purchase a home, according to Zillow.com.
00:17:13.000And now with Joe Biden, it requires about $125,000 a year to purchase a home.
00:17:18.000So the best is also—that's why it's such an interesting statement, my answer, Dr. Drew, because we could spend two hours of, what is the best?
00:17:26.000Well, the agreed-upon way in the West of how we have Explored and defined the answer is those things that are good for their own sake, and that is an Aristotelian answer.
00:17:37.000It's awfully philosophical, but you don't have to dwell on it too much to say that.
00:17:46.000So happy to throw it back to you, but conservatism is about protecting the best we have to offer so that young people and future generations can enjoy it like we have.
00:17:55.000So you're saying something that is a good with essentially a capital G in and for itself, right?
00:18:02.000That's how you sort of would define that.
00:18:04.000But embedded in what you say was a deep pragmatism and objectivity about what's good for people.
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00:20:00.000Has it been a good thing that we tried to spread democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan?
00:20:05.000If you read Russell Kirk, who I share a name of—no relation—and Edmund Burke, they actually were anti-ideological and anti-abstractions, and it was about things that are good for their own sake, as I mentioned previously, that all people can enjoy.
00:20:19.000For example, finding your soulmate, having children, Having strong communities and not necessarily always relying on the state or centralized corporate power.
00:20:29.000And I think as conservatives, we lost the plot.
00:20:31.000And I talk about this in the book, Right-Wing Revolution, in recent times where we're only skeptical of government power, but we're not skeptical of corporate power.
00:20:39.000The blend or the flavor of conservatism that I advance in this book, and I'm not alone, there's many other people J.D.
00:20:47.000Vance and Tucker Carlson who agree is that we should be skeptical of Pfizer as much as we are skeptical of the FDA.
00:20:53.000It's not okay to say that just big government is bad, which is probably true in most cases, but also we must understand that big corporations can sometimes do even more damage to us than the federal government.
00:21:12.000That is an ancient Greek word which means practical knowledge.
00:21:16.000You could spend years thinking about what does prudence actually mean.
00:21:20.000Two leaders in the last couple hundred years embodied prudence better than anybody else.
00:21:24.000It's Abraham Lincoln and Winston Churchill.
00:21:26.000There was no necessary blueprint or game plan for how to handle the stresses or the consequences of what their decisions meant, but both were great men because they were able to step up in times Yes, I actually think an anti-ideological, anti-abstraction movement is one that can unite the country and one that can defeat some of the more radical, let's just say, idea toxins that have been infecting the West.
00:22:00.000All right, we want to bring in Charlie Kirk now, the author of the new book, Right-Wing Revolution, and one of the smartest young people in this country.
00:22:08.000Charlie, it's good to have you back on the show.
00:22:10.000I want to ask you the same question I gave to the governor.
00:22:13.000Facing these horrific poll numbers, you've got Joe Biden seeming to go further left on immigration.
00:22:46.000And yet Joe Biden keeps on doing things that are so radical, so out of the mainstream of
00:22:52.000this country, from Title IX to his immigration policies to the trans stuff.
00:22:56.000What he has been doing in this country has no resonance with voters.
00:23:00.000In fact, it is further disenfranchising voters.
00:23:03.000And it surely seems as if Joe Biden is playing a longer term plan to destroy the country instead of actually trying to communicate with swing voters in these necessary states.
00:23:14.000It's something I talk about in my book, Right-Wing Revolution.
00:23:17.000Which is how the Democrats have been more and more concerned about pandering to ideological abstractions from the elites rather than everyday concerns from voters in this country.
00:23:29.000The disconnect, it's terrifying and it reminds you of a disconnect that you see in countries where there really isn't a free choice for the power, right?
00:23:56.000When you watch the power begin to just ignore the sensible things that people want, you wonder how much longer do you have a country where we actually get a choice in who runs this thing?
00:24:11.000What is the form and the structure of government that we have?
00:24:14.000You know, we're told that it's a democracy when in reality it should be a republic.
00:24:18.000But in actuality, we argue that it's an oligarchy.
00:24:21.000That we have a small group of powerful people that are disconnected with the wants and the needs and the concerns of the everyday American that truly don't even care.
00:24:30.000In fact, they have disgust for the American people.
00:24:33.000They'll keep on sending money to Ukraine, even though it's not popular.
00:24:36.000They'll keep the border open despite us being invaded.
00:24:38.000They'll do the Title IX stuff and allow men in women's locker rooms and men in female sports.
00:24:44.000And it's because their incentive structure is they don't care about public opinion or popular opinion.
00:24:50.000Instead, they care about whether or not the graft continues and if the kingdom of Washington DC is protected.
00:24:58.000This election, and we detail it in this book in High specificity is going to be about what is the form and the structure of the United States government.
00:25:06.000Do we want to go towards a representative government, consent of the governed, one where the people are put first and we the people are sovereign, or the oligarchy is protected, the one of the Bidens and the Pelosi's and the Schumer's and the Obama's.
00:25:19.000That is what is on the ballot this November.
00:25:21.000We detail it in the book to a great extent.
00:25:24.000And I want to live in a constitutional republic, not an oligarchic dictatorship.
00:25:32.000Turning Point USA, a massive, very successful event in Detroit this weekend and beyond.
00:25:39.000Charlie Kirk, of course, is the guy who made Turning Point USA, Turning Point USA, a political dynamo, a force, and he's changing the world.
00:25:52.000Of course, he was at Turning Point USA this weekend and had a few things to say about Charlie.
00:25:58.000What it turned out this is, is that Charlie Kirk I want to thank you all, and I want to thank Charlie Kirk for everything he's done at Turning Point Action for making this event possible.
00:26:50.000By the way, now that you are a family man, you know, like, do you feel even added pressure?
00:26:54.000Like, you know, you were a patriot when you were a bachelor, but now that you've got a, you got more of a stake in this, not that you didn't before.
00:27:06.000I mean, we have two under two right now, so it's, it's wild, but I'll tell you that the stakes are higher and it is now my why.
00:27:13.000It is, I look around at the decline of this beautiful nation in this country, And I'm not comfortable with what we're handing down to my daughter and my son.
00:27:37.000In Arizona, Wisconsin, and I talk about in the book, Greg, in great detail, the stakes of what we're up against and what every individual can actually do to save the country.
00:27:49.000People can find it on Amazon or wherever books are sold, 45books.com as well.
00:27:55.000And I'll tell you, Greg, the stakes have never been higher.
00:27:57.000And we talk about the micro and the macro of what every individual can do to retake this country and to fight for better days ahead.
00:28:05.000It starts with Identifying the threat, who are the woke, what do they believe, fighting it, confronting it, and then launching a counterrevolution, which we call the right-wing revolution.
00:28:18.000Did you know fossil fuels are not the climate villains that the legacy media and establishment politicos ask us to believe they are?
00:28:25.000Did you know that 8 billion people will eat today because fossil fuels ran the sophisticated machinery that produced all the food necessary to do so?
00:28:32.000Or how they power the complex heating and cooling systems to keep people alive through extreme temperatures?
00:28:38.000What would we do without AC or basic heat?
00:28:40.000And how about the way fossil fuels power our grid infrastructure, storm warning systems, and evacuation mechanisms?
00:28:47.000Fossil fuels have been the hero in the prevention of billions of deaths, and I'm the extension of life.
00:28:53.000I'm Charlie Kirk and I want you to know the facts.
00:28:55.000Go to oilfacts.com and get educated today on these critical facts.
00:28:59.000The need for American energy and what we can do to keep billions of catastrophic deaths from happening.
00:31:02.000That means that if we find these people, the Uber drivers, the taxi cabs, the waiters, the waitresses, that Trump is not going to tax your tips, we write on the checks, we do that, we're going to have an expanded base coming in November.
00:31:14.000If we fail to do that, we are going to be in a dire situation where we might win in the polls and lose with the ballots.
00:31:51.000Your team is working hard to make sure that Americans' votes actually count.
00:31:58.000Just the fact that you're willing even to talk about that.
00:32:01.000A lot in the Republican establishment, they won't even talk about the fact that the last election was stolen and that we need to fix this most fundamental of problems.
00:32:12.000That there are people that won't even talk about this, whereas you're trying to fix the problem?
00:32:16.000Yeah, we talk about it in great detail in the book Rightwing Revolution.
00:32:19.000We talk about how we need an opposition party in this country, and we don't have an opposition party.
00:32:23.000And how there are tens of millions of people, upwards of 70, 80, 90 million people who support Donald Trump and support our agenda and support the country course-correcting.
00:33:00.000We talk about in this book that the country will not be handed back to us on a silver platter if Donald Trump wins the election in November.
00:33:07.000Well, first, we have to force the issue to make sure Trump wins in November.
00:33:10.000But we kind of need that revolutionary type spirit.
00:33:13.000And of course, I don't mean anything violent or any of that nonsense.
00:33:15.000That's how the media misrepresents stuff.
00:33:17.000I mean being revolutionary in our action.
00:33:19.000Thinking bigger, thinking more entrepreneurial, thinking more creative in our personal life, in the micro and the macro.
00:34:18.000You can sell your third home and give the money to people Who are trying to save America.
00:34:24.000I'm not kidding, because if we do not win this election, and if we do not, and of course Trump is not enough, but if we do not do everything in our power to restore this nation to the founder's vision, you're going to lose your third home.
00:34:38.000It's going to be taken away from you by the socialists who don't believe you deserve to have it.
00:34:44.000So I am very serious about this, folks, that we have a few months before the election, And if you have any money that you can put your hands on, give it to people who are trying to save America.
00:34:55.000Because we don't deserve to have America.
00:34:56.000We're in a battle, we've let things slide for decades, and we're dealing with it right now.
00:35:04.000Charlie's got like a hundred copies of his new book behind him, Right-Wing Revolution, because, you know, this is how he built what he built.
00:35:12.000Charlie Kirk, Right-Wing Revolution, How to Beat the Woke and Save the West.
00:35:17.000All right, I've got so many questions to ask you, especially about what Turning Point Action's doing, the whole college scam thing.
00:35:23.000I've read a sample chapter of your new book about what is woke, so let's dive into that for a second.
00:35:30.000Woke was meant to be like a cool thing, a good thing that the left said.
00:36:25.000They operate like a bacterial infection or a virus.
00:36:27.000They take over the host and they're very good at it.
00:36:30.000They're not good at running it because all they do is destroy, similar to a virus or a bacterial infection, but they always look for another host once they've destroyed what they once previously infected.
00:36:41.000So to give a more philosophical answer, and we don't have to spend too much time on this, in the book we describe it as a blend of three ideologies, really four, but it's three.
00:36:50.000It's a blend of nihilism, postmodernism, and deconstructionism with a little taste, if you will, of Marxism.
00:36:57.000And Marxism is an important component, but it doesn't tell the entire picture.
00:37:00.000It is nihilistic because they believe that there's no purpose for existence.
00:37:04.000It is postmodern because they are trying to usher us into a post-truth era.
00:37:09.000And it is deconstruction because they believe anything that would once exist, that society or civilization was built upon, must be relentlessly challenged and deconstructed to its core.
00:37:18.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:37:19.000Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:37:21.000Thanks so much for listening and God bless.