00:00:00.000Today in the Charlie Kirk Show, Alfredo Ortiz joins our program to talk about small business and the coalition that we need to build to crush the Chamber of Commerce.
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00:01:30.000I have a lot of questions about Joe Biden and his presidency, truly.
00:01:34.000And one of my favorite people on television, he's always witty and knows what he's talking about and entertaining.
00:01:40.000He has a terrific new book out called, Come On, Man, The Truth About Joe Biden's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Presidency by Joe Concha.
00:03:00.000Then let's go with the U.S. Southern border, where he was smart enough to put Kamala Harris in charge.
00:03:05.000Kamala Harris, as a senator, said that ICE agents should be compared to the KKK and argued legal crossings across the border.
00:03:13.000I'm sorry, illegal crossings across the border should be made legal.
00:03:16.000And that's the person that's now in charge of fixing the southern border, which of course he's doing nothing.
00:03:21.000So between that, between the fact that we will have nearly 5 million people entering this country in this president's first two years, when you talk about those people have been encountered, more than 4 million, and all the gotaways that we're not even talking about, we are now close to the equivalent of the population of friggin' Ireland.
00:03:39.000And I'm half Irish, and that's the amount of people that will come across this country in just two years alone and all the fentany along with it as well, where 300 people are dying each day on average from opioid overdoses driven by fentanyl.
00:03:52.000So in terms of the border, we're back at that letter again, and it's F, as in we are F.
00:03:57.000Then you look at crime and you see major city after major city, Charlie.
00:04:01.000You talk about it on the show a lot and these amazing spikes.
00:04:04.000And most of these criminals are ones that have already been arrested and they're put back out onto the street because of these DAs that the president never speaks up about, cashless bail, these ridiculous laws.
00:04:16.000So American cities are profoundly unsafe.
00:04:18.000They're more expensive to live in and our border is wide open.
00:04:21.000So on three very major issues, this president is failing to the point where he may not even run again in 2024.
00:04:33.000I have a couple of questions for you, Joan, because you've thought deeply about this and you put it together.
00:04:37.000So one of the questions I've had throughout the entire presidency, and I think I figured it out, but I want your theory, is why the lack of adjustment?
00:04:47.000Why is it that it seems as if they're accelerating what you deem as an F?
00:05:01.000It seems as if there's something that is deeply wrong and unpopular.
00:05:04.000And instead of pivoting, they just drive it right off the cliff.
00:05:09.000Why is this administration, this person, been so, you know, this Joe Biden been so unwilling to adjust?
00:05:17.000Charlie, I think because they're cowards.
00:05:19.000I think in the end, they are so petrified of the left wing of the party.
00:05:23.000They're petrified of hosts on MSNBC and some on CNN that if they remotely pivot to the center, remember when CNN announced that we're going to start going more towards the center, we're going to start doing more journalism and less opinion.
00:05:36.000And then the liberals flipped like, how could you do this?
00:06:11.000He could either continue to go to the left where he started his presidency or say, ah, crap, I really got to start working with this new House speaker, this guy named Newt Gingrich, and pass some things that people want.
00:06:23.000So amazingly, a Democratic president, yes, this was within our lifetimes, a Democratic president passed welfare reform.
00:06:31.000Bill Clinton declared that the era of big government is over.
00:06:34.000Try picturing Joe Biden saying something like that.
00:06:36.000And then pass this thing called, it's amazing how logical it is, a balanced budget amendment, which basically says you don't spend what you're not taking into the government.
00:06:46.000We actually had a surplus in this country, which is just remarkable.
00:06:50.000So Clinton in 96, after doing this, runs for reelection and he wins quite easily over Bob Dole.
00:06:56.000And the same thing could be said about other presidents who were smart enough to just say, if I want to survive, I'm therefore going to go to the center.
00:07:04.000But I think, Charlie, it goes back to the fact that this president knows he's a one-term president, that he's not running again, that he doesn't want to be president when he's 85, 86 years old, which he could be if he were to actually run and win in a second term.
00:07:17.000We would have mid-80s Biden, which compared to late 70s Biden would be even more horrifying.
00:07:23.000So I think he just wants to get these big spending issues, these big spending projects done, and he's gotten some done already.
00:07:31.000He wants to change our energy independence to more of a green agenda.
00:07:35.000That's why he's canceling all these oil leases, Keystone XL pipeline, and having us depend on Venezuela for oil.
00:07:42.000I think he's transformed enough where he'll be convinced, like, okay, you did your job.
00:07:55.000And in all of your reporting and you look at this very carefully, what evidence do you have to show outside of what we might already be able to ascertain that he's going to be a one-term president?
00:08:20.000And it's going to be as big an audience as you're going to speak to in an interview, and you say that it remains to be seen if I'm going to run for president again or not.
00:08:29.000You leave that door open when you're asked that question instead of right before a midterm, by the way.
00:08:35.000You don't definitively say, of course I'm running for president again.
00:08:37.000I got a lot of work that I want to get done.
00:08:39.000And I didn't come here just to serve four years.
00:08:42.000When you say that it remains to be seen if I'm running, that's a very good indicator that he is not running.
00:08:47.000And then he looks at polls, I'm sure, and his handlers like Ron Klain look at polls, or even Charlie, a majority of Democrats do not want him to seek a second act.
00:08:57.000And an overwhelming number of Americans don't want him to as well.
00:09:43.000Are you like every one of us that thinks our country has gone nuts, whether it's Russia Gate market crashes or selling oil to China or this insane inflation?
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00:10:44.000Joe, I think an important way to look at Joe Biden is he's constantly thinking about how historians will view him and that he's being pushed by his handlers to be even more ideological and more radical than even he's comfortable with because I don't think he's totally there.
00:11:01.000I don't mean that in a pejorative way.
00:11:02.000I just don't think he's obviously there and making the decisions cognitively that would be expected of a president.
00:11:09.000But my question, Joe, is how much of these decisions is being done not to try to drive success, but instead to try to drive the country into the ground?
00:11:19.000Because you give him an F across the board.
00:11:21.000That feels like a campaign of destruction.
00:11:26.000And that's the confusing thing about this.
00:11:30.000I mean, when we talk about is some of the things that are they doing, is it intentional, Charlie?
00:11:35.000And I just look at the border and it's hard not to come to any conclusion that opening it the way they have and people just walking right in like they're going to 7-Eleven and these numbers that we talked about, I mean, 2 million in the last year just documented the ones that we've encountered alone.
00:11:56.000How do you stop construction of a border wall that was working or remain in Mexico policy unless it is intentional that you want all these folks to come in?
00:12:04.000And then you see a Gavin Newsom in California completely embracing this by saying he's going to give free health care to illegal immigrants, which is remarkable when you consider all the homelessness in his state.
00:12:16.000And you have veterans on food stamps where we're treating people that aren't legally in this country better than we are those who are legally.
00:12:23.000And then you say, okay, well, it can't be about letting illegals vote because we would never allow that, right?
00:12:30.000Well, in my book, I'm actually looking at it right on page five, right in the beginning, I say non-citizens will never be allowed to vote, you say.
00:12:36.000It's already happening in places like New York City, where they passed a law in 2021 allowing 800,000 non-citizens to vote in local elections.
00:12:45.000And then there's 15 cities and towns across the U.S. that's now allowing this as well.
00:12:53.000Is this like a big picture long-term plan to keep Democrats in power in places where they already have a stronghold and now they could completely solidify it by passing these laws, allowing illegal immigrants to vote and to have driver's licenses and so on?
00:13:28.000Do you think Hunter's going to get indicted?
00:13:30.000Do you think he's going to resign peacefully into the distance?
00:13:33.000How does the Joe Biden story end, Joe?
00:13:35.000It ends after the 2022 midterms when the GOP takes back the House and then hearings start to be launched almost immediately into Hunter Biden, into that laptop, into influence peddling in places like China and Ukraine, which at last check are in the news a lot these days.
00:13:52.000And Ukraine's getting a lot of our money these days and Russia as well.
00:13:56.000And then we start to explore who is the big guy, who got the 10%.
00:14:00.000Tony Bobolinski, who was Hunter Biden's primary business partner, says it was absolutely Joe Biden getting kickbacks on the family name and these potentially and probably illegal dealings that are happening in places like China, where now the president doesn't seem very interested in confronting the Chinese on anything as it retains to COVID or trade and is giving away a lot of money, as I said, to Ukraine in terms of that country, which up until the war was seen as one of the most corrupt countries in the country.
00:14:27.000So I think once those investigations start and once the president knows that he's completely a lame duck when he doesn't have the House and probably doesn't have the Senate, then he announces, okay, to be fair to all the Democrats, sometime in the spring of 2023, he says, I'm not running again for another term.
00:14:43.000Then everybody jumps in for the nomination like they did in 2020.
00:14:48.00028 people ran on the Democratic side to the point where they had to have debates over two nights because they couldn't fit everybody on stage.
00:14:55.000It'll happen like that all over again.
00:14:57.000And you're going to have the Gavin Newsoms and Hillary Clintons and Pete Buttigedges and Corey Bookers and all the Island of Misfit toys running back in again in an open primary.
00:15:05.000And with it open on the Republican side as well, it'll be a complete and total, well, it'll be entertaining for us for having shows like this and going on television to talk about it.
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00:16:38.000The backbone of America is small business.
00:16:42.000We talk about small business here and there, but rarely do we talk about the policies that are necessary to support small business.
00:16:50.000It's something that, quite honestly, I believe the Biden regime wants to destroy small business because small businesses are decentralized.
00:17:11.000And they're all about representing small business and making sure the interests of small business are protected in Washington, D.C.
00:17:20.000The American way of life is largely protected, made possible, I should say, by local mom and pop entrepreneurs that are the drumbeat of the American economy.
00:17:31.000Joining us right now is Alfredo Ortiz, who is the mastermind and the driving force behind Job Creators Network.
00:17:54.000Well, your intro was right on, though.
00:17:56.000I mean, small businesses in this country are the heartbeat of our communities or the heartbeat of our country.
00:18:02.000And without small businesses, we have no country.
00:18:05.000I mean, when you think about it, 30 million small business owners out there employing about 60 million people.
00:18:10.000So you're talking to pull about 90 million hardworking Americans that are really dependent on the success or failure of small business.
00:18:16.000And frankly, you know, this administration has done absolutely nothing to try to help them.
00:18:22.000In fact, has done everything possible to try to hurt them.
00:18:24.000We actually call it the war on small business, Charlie, because that's exactly what they did from day one.
00:18:29.000And, you know, in terms of if you look at what the policies of the Biden administration have done in terms of inflation, you know, we're now in the middle of a recession.
00:18:38.000You've got labor force issues, supply chain issues.
00:18:41.000Everything has been hurting our small businesses.
00:18:44.000And really, there's no relief in sight coming from this administration.
00:18:47.000And that's why, Charlie, we put together this eight-point plan working with Newt Gingrich on its release last week.
00:18:53.000And so we're really excited about the support that we've gotten.
00:18:57.000I'm going to just list out the quick eight points because we try to keep it as simple as we could, Charlie, so that folks could actually focus and understand what we're trying to do.
00:19:05.000The first one, though, the most important one, is really make the tax cuts permanent from the Taxing and Jobs Act, especially when it comes to the small business provisions that were included in there.
00:19:15.000The second one is to really launch and unleash domestic energy production again.
00:19:20.000Charlie, you and I have both have been talking about this since day one of the administration, but every single thing that's bad right now, we can trace all the way back to that fateful day, the first day of his administration, when he launched basically his attack on domestic energy production.
00:19:36.000And all the inflation, the supply chain issues, everything we're seeing really comes back to that day.
00:19:40.000So we're saying we got to bring back domestic energy production, healthcare, bring those health care costs down.
00:19:48.000Our healthcareforou.com outlines a really great way of being able to address healthcare costs for our small businesses.
00:19:55.000Exempt small businesses from over-regulation, basically, which has been one of the things that this administration loves doing.
00:20:04.000And frankly, every other Democrat administration has done.
00:20:08.000Remember that President Trump unleashed small business success by really bringing down taxes and bringing down regulations.
00:20:15.000And so we want to basically challenge the system and basically say that any regulation, Charlie, that is out there, small businesses are exempted from it automatically.
00:20:25.000And the agency that wants to put forth this regulation is going to have to prove why the small business community needs to be rolled into that.
00:20:32.000So we're really kind of putting that on its head versus where it is today.
00:20:37.000Government spending, of course, kind of reined that in.
00:20:40.000Fix a supply chain issue and dealing with China, obviously, is another piece.
00:20:45.000And then an actual work requirement that will be incorporated for any recipients of government aid.
00:20:53.000And frankly, because of the Biden administration, all the free money, Charlie, that was being given away, the American work ethic has pretty much been decimated.
00:21:01.000So we're saying bring the work requirement back.
00:21:03.000If you're an able-bodied person, you're receiving government aid, you should be able to work for that.
00:21:09.000And then lastly, expanding access to capital.
00:21:11.000We think it's so important for that to happen.
00:21:15.000I think it was actually Jesse Jackson that said, remember that capitalism without capital is just another ism.
00:21:26.000Just yesterday, we also received the support from minority leader, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy.
00:21:31.000So we're well on the way in terms of momentum.
00:21:36.000So let me ask you, Alfredo, you know, this is a really important point.
00:21:40.000I want to make sure we drill in on this.
00:21:41.000When you talk about regulation against small business, there's the Chamber of Commerce, which I'm not a fan of at all.
00:21:47.000They've gone completely woke off the reservation.
00:21:51.000And they're representing the biggest companies, but there's rarely ever a voice for the small business, the medium-sized business.
00:22:00.000Alfredo, can you build out this idea that it is the big company's interest to pass more regulations because they actually are protected and their incumbency is then shielded by these new laws and these new regulations.
00:22:18.000JCN really is the chamber for small businesses is what should be.
00:22:23.000And we're going to help you grow, Alfredo.
00:22:25.000Job Creators Network, everyone can check it out.
00:22:29.000You guys can check out their website, jobcreatorsnetwork.com.
00:22:33.000Alfredo, talk about how regulation is used as a tool to protect the incumbency of major companies and crush smaller ones.
00:22:42.000Yeah, Charlie, all I can say is when you see a company like Amazon pushing for higher minimum wages, watch out, right?
00:22:49.000There's a reason why they're doing it because they are trying to use these regulations to their advantage to basically keep small businesses out of the way and basically effectively take them out overall from operating because a lot of these small businesses cannot keep up with the types of regulations that the government imposes.
00:23:06.000Look all the, go back all the way to Dodd-Frank when it came to kind of banking regulations.
00:23:11.000Remember that, the too big to fail idea, right?
00:23:13.000Well, guess what ended up happening, Charlie?
00:23:15.0002,500 small community banks, mostly minority, you know, minority population communities, went out of business, Charlie.
00:23:26.000And that's because they just couldn't keep up with the amount of regulation that was being thrown at them from a banking perspective.
00:23:32.000And like this, you know, large companies, that's why they're in bed with the Biden administration because they can work together to squeeze out these small businesses.
00:23:42.000And something you said right at the beginning when you opened up our interview is so true.
00:23:47.000The Democrats, the Biden administration, the left, they hate small business.
00:23:51.000And it's because we represent small businesses represent everything that they hate.
00:23:55.000You know, the American dream, free enterprise, capitalism, the idea that if you work real hard, right, that you can get anything you want.
00:24:02.000I had two small businesses myself, Charlie, and I put everything on the line for those two businesses.
00:24:58.000It's all different pockets across the country.
00:25:01.000And so, you know, and also, Alfredo, I think that part of what you guys are hitting on at Job Creators Network, and just so the audience knows, we're going to be doing a lot of things at Job Creators Network to help them grow.
00:25:11.000So I'm very passionate about them becoming the new chamber of commerce for small business is how minorities, in particular Hispanic communities, are really getting in the direction of we didn't like these lockdowns, we didn't like these mask mandates, we didn't like this one-size-fits-all policy.
00:25:29.000The Hispanic community in the Rio Grande Valley, and I'm not even talking politically, but we can go there if you want.
00:25:34.000They are now saying these big government ideas are awful.
00:25:37.000They want law and order because their businesses were torched by, you know, these criminals and these vigilantes.
00:25:43.000Alfredo, can you talk about how a proper message of small business, talking about the retail backbone, talking about the plumbers, electricians, the welders, how that is a way where the Republican conservative movement can broaden their appeal to communities they otherwise would have struggled with?
00:26:01.000And on the Hispanic front, absolutely, first of all, I mean, one of the most entrepreneurial ethnic groups are Hispanics, right?
00:26:07.000And when you look at it across the board, and that's true.
00:26:11.000And, you know, when you talk about even crime, for example, you know, you talk about the border, I mean, one of the things that the Democrats do so poorly is this identity idea of identity politics, right?
00:26:20.000The Hispanics are all kind of one and they all believe about, you know, the border and they have a major, you know, issue with immigration and all that.
00:26:30.000I mean, when you look at the Hispanic overall as a community, guess what they really, really care about?
00:26:34.000The same thing you and I care about, right?
00:26:36.000The economy, inflation, education, safety in their communities.
00:26:42.000I mean, one of the biggest reasons why they believe that the border should be secured and your borders should be closed and that only legal immigration actually happened is because guess where the crime is coming through this poorest border?
00:26:56.000It's not going into Nancy Pelosi's community.
00:26:58.000It's going to their communities, right?
00:27:00.000And their schools, the MS-13 gangs, they're basically staging themselves as students and going into these schools and creating massive issues in terms of from a drug perspective across their communities.
00:27:13.000And that's why, frankly, when you look at when DeSantis won the Florida governorship, that's actually one of the biggest reasons why he won, because he understood that Hispanics in Florida were worried about crime and safety in their communities.
00:28:04.000Everybody, remember, we have to build the new Chamber of Commerce.
00:28:07.000Job Creators Network has some really great people behind it, including one of the co-founders of Home Depot, Bernie Marcus, who's one of the great entrepreneurs of our generation.
00:28:17.000You guys can check out jobcreatorsnetwork.com.
00:28:24.000You guys, if you own a small business, if you are a small business, you know, let's say a co-owner, a VP, or even if you're a retired business owner or a concerned citizen, doesn't matter.
00:28:33.000All people, you could check out jobcreatorsnetwork.com.
00:28:36.000Even if you plan to launch a business, you're an entrepreneur.
00:28:40.000I can go into detail about how influential the chamber has been.
00:28:43.000We have to build a bottom-up alternative that's jobcreatorsnetwork.com.
00:28:47.000Alfredo, I said that they're coming for small businesses next.
00:29:19.000Well, you know, inflation really is probably the number one issue for small businesses, Charlie.
00:29:24.000And I want to put an exclamation point on that because remember that small businesses have it even harder than any large business out there because they don't have the benefits of, you know, strong purchasing power, multi-year contracts, preferential inventory distribution, right?
00:29:43.000A lot of these businesses are just really subject to the ups and downs of the economy.
00:29:47.000In this particular case, the 8.5% inflation rate that's hitting the economy is hitting these small businesses extremely hard.
00:29:55.000I mean, we're seeing case after case of our members, let's say restaurant owners, where in many cases, their inputs are up double, triple of what it used to be, and they're barely even breaking even.
00:30:05.000And in many cases, they're actually starting to really lose money in a significant way.
00:30:10.000And so we're very concerned about the impact of inflation on our small businesses.
00:30:14.000And again, it really started with Joe Biden's attack on domestic energy production.
00:30:18.000One of the things that we call for is an immediate return to production here in the U.S.
00:30:25.000I mean, the destabilization across the globe that Joe Biden created from that day one of his administration with his attack on energy is really one of the leading reasons why we are where we are, whether it's on natural gas now, whether it's gasoline prices, supply chain issues.
00:30:42.000I mean, it really goes back to that fateful day, unfortunately, that Biden made.
00:30:47.000And so we have to make sure that we address that through it.
00:30:53.000We've got to stop this ridiculous, out-of-control government spending.
00:30:56.000I mean, just what today, the Congressional Budget Office issued their estimate of this loan bailout of over, it's going to be about $420 billion.
00:31:07.000I mean, this is absolutely out of control.
00:31:09.000And then somehow Biden expects us to believe that that's not going to be inflationary.
00:31:13.000I mean, this is Pinocchio Joe at his best, Charlie.
00:31:18.000We at Job Creators Network will try to call every single time that he makes one of these ridiculous statements or anybody from the Biden administration.
00:31:26.000As you know, we're kind of now called the billboard guys because we take out these great billboards out of New York, you know, attacking basically anything that really comes out of his mouth as a complete lie, which at this point is basically every day.