The Charlie Kirk Show - Why Christians Should Reject CRT—LIVE from Baylor University

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00:04:14.000 You worked very hard to pull off this event.

00:04:17.000 Really is terrific.

00:04:18.000 It's not easy to do this, especially off campus.

00:04:21.000 And obviously, we'd like to be on campus, but still a pretty amazing turnout, I have to say.

00:04:26.000 And it's really important.

00:04:28.000 So we're on tour right now.

00:04:29.000 And when we were thinking about what kind of we wanted to do on our tour, you know, when we first started doing this, it was interesting.

00:04:37.000 Kind of, we're always trying to be the most relevant and trying to communicate to you, our target audience, in a way that you appreciate and understand.

00:04:45.000 And we never wanted our tour ever to be about a specific issue.

00:04:50.000 But we felt in particular as kind of as things were developing in our country, especially after last summer, and with the implementation of this radical ideology, critical race theory, in a variety of different ways, we said, we're going to have to explain what this is and push back against this.

00:05:05.000 And, you know, so we said, let's have this tour exposing critical racism tour.

00:05:10.000 Of course, no controversy at all across the country with that.

00:05:13.000 We're going to Vermont next week.

00:05:14.000 I think they're already burning buildings in anticipation of our arrival.

00:05:18.000 We're not even allowed to say what our hotel we're speaking at yet next week because of safety concerns.

00:05:24.000 But this is a really serious issue.

00:05:26.000 And tonight's speech will be a little bit different because I'm going to come after this from why should Christians reject critical race theory.

00:05:33.000 Now, maybe you're here tonight.

00:05:34.000 You're not a Christian. 1.00

00:05:35.000 I hope you become a Christian.

00:05:37.000 And maybe I'm going to just go straight gospel on you and why I think you need to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

00:05:42.000 But this is the fifth largest Christian college in the country.

00:05:46.000 And every one of these stuff, I'm not going to do the Christian thing. 0.99

00:05:52.000 Actually, I probably should in Vermont.

00:05:55.000 Definitely should.

00:05:55.000 So the second least churched state in the country.

00:05:58.000 And then we'll go to Oregon after that, which is the least churched state in the country.

00:06:02.000 But I do think that tonight, as Baylor being the fifth largest religious institution in the country, most people here tonight, I would guess, are Christians or at least aware of what Christianity says and what the Bible, what the Bible articulates and what we as Christians believe.

00:06:18.000 What does, if any, does kind of this critical race theory idea kind of have in common or at odds with the teachings of the Bible?

00:06:27.000 So I'm going to kind of make this a unique flavor tonight.

00:06:30.000 And if it doesn't resonate with you, we'll have questions and answers.

00:06:32.000 We can go in that direction.

00:06:33.000 So first, I just kind of want to frame this by saying what is a Christian?

00:06:38.000 I'm not going to get into denominations.

00:06:40.000 I'm not going to get into Christian versus Catholic of all that.

00:06:43.000 You guys can sort it out yourself.

00:06:44.000 The Nicene Creed, triune God, inerrancy of scripture, you know, death, life, life, ministry, death, burial, resurrection of Christ.

00:06:53.000 Pretty simple stuff, right?

00:06:54.000 You believe that you're broken by nature, original sin.

00:06:56.000 You need Jesus Christ in your life to be born new to get into life eternal.

00:07:01.000 These are general Christian principles.

00:07:03.000 Again, if you guys want to have a theological discussion, I'm more than happy to do that.

00:07:06.000 I really don't have that strong opinions, except the inerrancy of Scripture, Triune God, and Nicene Creed.

00:07:11.000 And you guys, maybe there's some theology majors here, and you guys would get a fun kick out of that.

00:07:15.000 So, the question is: if you believe in those things, what should you think about this growing trend of CRT and the hyper-racialization of American politics?

00:07:23.000 So, let's take a step back, right?

00:07:24.000 Let's take a step back.

00:07:25.000 Why is it that we even care about this?

00:07:28.000 Well, last year, after the incident with George Floyd and the $2 billion of damages that ensued after that in the summer last summer, all of a sudden we decided to completely and totally redesign American society.

00:07:40.000 We decided to prioritize people based on race, not on character.

00:07:45.000 We decided to change the way that we actually implement graduation ceremonies, where we'll get into some of these examples.

00:07:51.000 But did you know 75 colleges across the country now do graduation ceremonies based on race?

00:07:57.000 So, black-only graduation ceremony, Hispanic-only graduation ceremony, white-only graduation ceremony. 0.98

00:08:03.000 We are re-segregating American society.

00:08:05.000 In Georgia public schools, they have black kids go to one classroom, white kids go to another classroom.

00:08:10.000 Though, this idea of that we should care about the skin color and the content of people's skin color, not of their character, is not a new phenomenon, but it's new for my lifetime.

00:08:19.000 That's for sure.

00:08:20.000 You know, I'm 27, about to be 28 tomorrow, and I'm holding on as long as I can.

00:08:25.000 And I feel like I'm like 55 when I say this.

00:08:31.000 The country I grew up in, it's true, never would have put up with this.

00:08:35.000 Never would have put up with this idea of organizing people based on things they can't change rather than on things they can change.

00:08:41.000 And there's obvious exceptions to this, but the general rule is that we should always try to prioritize public policy and laws based on things you can change.

00:08:50.000 Human action.

00:08:51.000 How hard do you work?

00:08:52.000 What is your character?

00:08:53.000 Are you trying to improve your life?

00:08:55.000 Things you can't change, not a good idea to organize society around that.

00:09:00.000 And a great example is: if you cannot change your race or your ethnicity, then why would you possibly make that a priority or a preference in trying to say in racial hiring practices or in admission standards or graduation ceremony quotas?

00:09:19.000 And this is for our generation, me not being that much older than you, a phenomenon that is growing, and we have to talk about where it comes from and how evil it actually is.

00:09:30.000 This is everywhere.

00:09:30.000 This is from the hiring practices of United Airlines to Pfizer to the United States military now has these sort of doctrines and these ideas being taught.

00:09:41.000 And I'm going to go as far to say that this is a virus.

00:09:46.000 And unlike this virus, after you get exposed to it and you get it, you don't get natural immunity from critical race theory.

00:09:53.000 Where this is a virus that is now within the church, it's now within the body of Christ, and it's now within many Christian organizations.

00:10:00.000 So, what is it?

00:10:01.000 Put simply started in the 1960s out of the Frankfurt School in Germany.

00:10:05.000 This is a very top-level view, by the way.

00:10:07.000 And feel free to dive into this during question and answer.

00:10:10.000 If you want to, that's fine.

00:10:11.000 There's an incredible amount of literature I'm happy to go through.

00:10:14.000 But I'm going to give you the absolute surface level: is that through the Frankfurt School in Germany, there was a group of legitimate Marxists that left Germany, came to America, they found a safe haven here.

00:10:25.000 They believed in the economic Marxism, so they believed in their own personal opinion, the abolition of private property, the rights of the workers, all these sorts of things, an eventual ushering in of utopia, the destruction of the American family.

00:10:36.000 And they realized that bringing Marxism and communism to America has proven to be rather difficult.

00:10:42.000 And so, a specific thinker, if you could call him that, but he was pretty smart, just wrong about everything, Herbert Marcuse, came and he had a disciple by the name of Angela Davis, who is a black woman communist who lives in California still.

00:10:53.000 She's 77 years old.

00:10:55.000 And they believe that race is the most important thing.

00:10:58.000 They believe that all power dynamics are not economic.

00:11:01.000 It's not about character.

00:11:02.000 It's not about who you are.

00:11:03.000 It's about the color of your skin.

00:11:05.000 That everything around you is racist, and that we must do everything we possibly can to try to organize society, try to upheave the white supremacist, colonialist, imperialistic, misogynistic, bigoted culture, and try to usher in some sort of indigenous people, people of color-type revolt.

00:11:21.000 This is where you started to get terms like people of color, minority ethnic groups.

00:11:25.000 Soon after, you got affirmative action, admission standards in college, all these sorts of things that came through kind of post-that era.

00:11:31.000 And then in the 1980s, 1990s, there was kind of a cooling off period where the predominant viewpoint, I was born in 1993, was that, hey, we're not going to care about skin color, we're going to care about the content of people's character.

00:11:43.000 Martin Luther King said that famously in his address at the speech of the Washington Mall, and that was something that was repeated many, many times, which is, hey, it's not good.

00:11:53.000 In fact, it's racist to care about people's skin color, to organize them based on ethnocentric tribes.

00:11:59.000 Instead, we are all made in the image of God.

00:12:02.000 We are complex human beings, and your skin color is the most immaterial part of you. 1.00

00:12:06.000 In fact, that is a sloppy, lazy, and dare I say, divisive way to actually try and say this is the most important way to even think about your fellow human beings.

00:12:17.000 And then all of a sudden, we started to see in 2010, 2011, a couple different economic and social movements set in.

00:12:23.000 Where first, I don't know if any of you guys remember this, Occupy Wall Street, maybe you do, maybe you don't, which honestly had some really good critiques, and happy to talk about this too later, which is that there was a group of unelected Wall Street bankers working with Washington, D.C., of people that are basically exempt from the same sort of kind of repercussions: that if you guys did this, you would go to jail.

00:12:42.000 The Washington and Wall Street bankers, they do this, they get bonuses, and they get treated really well.

00:12:48.000 Now, some of it had kind of this anti-capitalist, anti-market language laced into it, but they weren't wrong by saying that there was this cronyist economic kind of cartel running our country.

00:13:00.000 Occupy Wall Street fizzled out.

00:13:02.000 It wasn't popular, it didn't get people animated.

00:13:04.000 There were a couple protests here and there, and this was after the 2008 financial crisis.

00:13:08.000 The next big attempt that they tried to implement was through the whole Me Too thing, 2014, 2015, 16, culminating with the Senate confirmation of the most boring human being in the history of the planet, Brett Kavanaugh, where they tried to call him a serial gang rapist because someone from high school comes out and says, Yeah, actually, he came and raped me and forgot all these different details, all this.

00:13:29.000 All of them people say, Hold on a second, like maybe this believe-all women thing.

00:13:32.000 We have a little bit of nuance here, cross-examination of witnesses, due process, look at the facts associated, and kind of a stunning turn of events.

00:13:40.000 Even suburban women have sons too, and they're like, I don't want that to happen to my son as well. 1.00

00:13:44.000 And all of a sudden, that movement kind of fizzled out.

00:13:46.000 And so, the racial element has been here for quite a while.

00:13:48.000 In 2015, Black Lives Matter, otherwise known as BLM Incorporated, started in University of Missouri, Ferguson, Missouri, with the big lot, one of the big lies, hands up, don't shoot, was never said by Michael Brown, complete and total lie.

00:14:01.000 It spread all across the country.

00:14:03.000 And what happened after that was the Ferguson effect, which police officers were then kind of made the enemy.

00:14:09.000 They left Ferguson, Missouri, and they left, meaning they didn't police the same way they did.

00:14:13.000 Crime goes up dramatically.

00:14:15.000 We're seeing that happen right now, by the way.

00:14:16.000 I'll get into that in just a second.

00:14:18.000 Then you had some incidents in Baltimore that were highly politicized, which resulted in arson, widespread destruction as well.

00:14:25.000 And so there were kind of these rumblings about this.

00:14:28.000 And then, you know, for better or for worse, you could call the perfect store imperfect storm, or you could call it an arsonist storm in May of last year.

00:14:35.000 What ended up being a much more complex situation that was ever presented in a video that made people very, very emotional, the death of George Floyd literally set the country on fire.

00:14:44.000 And immediately, it was kind of confirmation bias of the narrative that we were always told, which is that law enforcement police officers are going and they're walking the streets trying to find black people.

00:14:54.000 They're literally killing them without any sort of due process whatsoever.

00:14:57.000 The numbers don't bear this out at all.

00:14:59.000 And happy to get into that.

00:15:00.000 30 unarmed black people were killed by police officers in 2018, 2019 combined.

00:15:04.000 Out of that, some of them tried to run over police officers, their car, grabbing weapons of the police officers.

00:15:09.000 And out of 335 million police interactions, you have 30 unarmed black people in just two years.

00:15:15.000 All of a sudden, you're like, is that really worth redesigning American society around that? 0.98

00:15:20.000 That would be foolish and imprudent. 0.94

00:15:21.000 We decided to do it anyway. 0.62

00:15:22.000 $2 billion of damages.

00:15:24.000 And all of a sudden, every major corporation stemming from what's happening in college campuses, we decided to all of a sudden embrace this, that we're systemically racist.

00:15:31.000 We're a white supremacist country. 1.00

00:15:33.000 And if you dare disagree with us, we will character assassinate you, mock you, ridicule you because you're a racist. 1.00

00:15:38.000 Sit down and shut up. 1.00

00:15:39.000 And all of a sudden, people started to read the literature. 0.99

00:15:41.000 Moms and dads would say, wait a second, you're trying to tell my eight-year-old that he's a racist just because of the color of your skin?

00:15:46.000 Like, not so fast.

00:15:47.000 Started to show up in school board meetings, Loudoun County, Virginia, a big center of that.

00:15:50.000 And so now where we are today in October 2021, actually, critical race theory has a negative view by a majority of Americans.

00:15:59.000 About 56% of Americans say, wait a second, this is a little bit too radical for me.

00:15:59.000 Not overwhelming.

00:16:04.000 You know, I can understand that if you want to have a conversation about some of these things, but all of a sudden saying that we need to have white privilege walks, we need to have segregated graduation ceremonies, we need to have segregation today to make up for segregation yesterday by Ibram X. Kendi, that's too much for me.

00:16:17.000 So that was just kind of a framing.

00:16:18.000 You could disagree with some of my opinions.

00:16:21.000 Nothing there was an opinion, by the way.

00:16:22.000 It's just a historical kind of catalog of where we are today.

00:16:25.000 You might think all of that was a wonderful thing or an awful thing, like I generally believe, but that was all just history.

00:16:31.000 And so then all of a sudden the church started to embrace it.

00:16:34.000 And that's where things start, and that's really where I want to focus in, which is the church started to embrace this and say, hey, a certain theological belief heavily in deconstructionism and social relativism says that it's now the role of the church to try to right the wrongs of racism's past.

00:16:50.000 And you saw many pastors, including one from Dallas, who I will not name, saying that, you know, you're white privileged, that it's the biggest threat to American society, that we're white supremacists to the core.

00:17:01.000 Of course, there's no data to show any of this.

00:17:02.000 There's no empirical logic of this instead.

00:17:04.000 It's very pathological in nature.

00:17:06.000 And so it goes to these fundamental questions, which first and foremost, what is the reason for our existence?

00:17:11.000 The reason for our existence as Christians is to first and foremost give our lives to Christ, be obedient to the scriptures, obedient to God, and win other souls for Christ.

00:17:19.000 That's the reason for our existence.

00:17:21.000 It's not to lead social revolutionary movements.

00:17:23.000 It's not to try and right the wrongs of intergenerational justice, which I'll get to in a second.

00:17:29.000 And we have a very clear answer as Christians what the reason to our existence is.

00:17:32.000 And maybe you guys could say it much more beautifully than I could.

00:17:35.000 CRT has a reason for their existence too.

00:17:38.000 The CRT belief or the critical race theory belief, and by the way, that's a filler term.

00:17:42.000 You could use wokeism, diversity industrial complex, woke-stand, whatever you want, right?

00:17:46.000 Whatever sort of filler that you want, it all works, okay?

00:17:50.000 If it's insane, doesn't make sense, and they're really angry, that's wokeism, okay?

00:17:54.000 So, and it's basically there is a reason for that existence.

00:17:57.000 And they say, our reason is that we believe that ultimate truth is not that Jesus Christ sets you free of your sins.

00:18:04.000 The ultimate truth is a power dynamic.

00:18:06.000 That everything can be boiled to is who's in charge, oppressor versus oppressed.

00:18:10.000 That someone's in charge, someone is not.

00:18:12.000 Therefore, we must upheave whatever system that actually is.

00:18:15.000 And then I asked the question, which is the most important question right now in America, and that's saying something because there's a lot of different questions, which is what is justice, right?

00:18:23.000 And so we believe in a biblical view, or we should believe in a biblical view of justice, where it says very clearly in Deuteronomy that fathers shall not be put to death for their children.

00:18:33.000 Children shall not be put to death for their fathers, but instead each one shall be put to death for their own sin.

00:18:39.000 Now, that might be a little graphic for you.

00:18:40.000 What do you mean put to death?

00:18:42.000 Read the Old Testament is all I have to say.

00:18:45.000 And so, but what it's saying is that you will not be blamed for the sins of your fathers.

00:18:49.000 You will not be blamed for the sins of your sons.

00:18:51.000 You're an independent person.

00:18:52.000 Justice is to you.

00:18:54.000 You're your own being with your own sovereignty, your own ability to think, to be able to create, and you should be treated as such.

00:19:00.000 And we know this in the Christian context too, not just in the Old Testament context, or I should say in the Levitical law context, which is that someone cannot save you for you.

00:19:10.000 That you have to have your own personal relationship with Christ.

00:19:13.000 That your father cannot say, hey, I'm going to be an extra good Christian and save my son for them.

00:19:18.000 You could lead your kids to that.

00:19:20.000 You can lead your family members to that.

00:19:22.000 But when it comes down to it, you have to give your life to Christ.

00:19:24.000 You have to give your soul to Christ.

00:19:26.000 It cannot be done intergenerationally.

00:19:28.000 It's Deuteronomy 24, 16, by the way, which is that verse.

00:19:33.000 And we also see this in Samuel as well.

00:19:36.000 And the question is, should we care about appearance?

00:19:38.000 Should we care about what people look like?

00:19:40.000 Or should we care about things that are deeper and more important?

00:19:43.000 And it says in Samuel, do not look at his appearance or at the height of his stance because I have rejected him.

00:19:48.000 For God sees not as man sees, for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.

00:19:54.000 Whereas it says this again in the New Testament, where Paul says, not slave nor Greek nor Jew.

00:19:58.000 We are all one in Christ Jesus.

00:20:01.000 And at the root of CRT, without overthinking it, it's redux of tribalism.

00:20:06.000 It's that simple.

00:20:07.000 It's that we should care about what tribe you're part of because of what your skin color looks like.

00:20:12.000 And now, some of you are probably saying, Charlie, this is obvious.

00:20:14.000 I agree with you.

00:20:15.000 What's the significance of all this?

00:20:16.000 I'm going to go through some of these examples again.

00:20:18.000 I'm going to reiterate this.

00:20:18.000 75 schools right now across the country are doing graduation ceremonies based on race.

00:20:23.000 United Airlines has just come out and they said that they want to have a preference to hire black pilots more than white pilots.

00:20:29.000 Now, I'm all for every person trying to be a pilot.

00:20:31.000 I could not care less about the color of the person's skin when I'm in a plane, and you shouldn't either. 0.78

00:20:35.000 You want them to be competent.

00:20:37.000 You want them to be able to land the plane.

00:20:44.000 And that is a very important point, which is that when we start to organize society, or when we start to make decisions based on things that people cannot change versus on things they can change, such as diversity or skin color, not competency and excellence, then all of a sudden you're going to start to see society suffer because of it. 0.78

00:21:02.000 And a great example of this is what happened in Afghanistan, which I think we forgot about way too quickly.

00:21:08.000 What happened in Afghanistan was a public and international humiliation, where we gave $85 billion to the Taliban. 0.77

00:21:13.000 We gave up the Bagram air base.

00:21:14.000 The sacrifices of so many military members went for naught.

00:21:17.000 And let me be very clear.

00:21:18.000 I was all for ending the war in Afghanistan. 0.99

00:21:20.000 But if all of a sudden I said, hey, you know, you have a kidney that gets removed.

00:21:23.000 You take out a pocket knife and you start to do it.

00:21:25.000 Like, that's not a good idea, okay?

00:21:27.000 Go to a professional who knows what they're doing.

00:21:28.000 There's a good way and a bad way to do something that needs to be done.

00:21:32.000 And getting out of Afghanistan, we're all saying, hey, let's arm the enemy, give the embassy up, not patrol the airbase. 0.56

00:21:38.000 Americans are stranded for months on end.

00:21:40.000 Give China the upper hand with the entire evacuation. 0.99

00:21:43.000 Give up the strategic airbase.

00:21:44.000 And the reason, in the opinion of, I think, anyone that looks at it objectively, is that the head of the United States military, Mark Milley, along with Lloyd Austin and Joe Biden, if you consider him to be the head of anything, which is, they were testifying in front of Congress back in June, saying that the existential threat to America was white rage and that we're not going to apologize for implementing critical race theory, diversity, equity, inclusion, or this sort of new history into the military, into the military of all places.

00:22:13.000 The military, that by definition, every person here should want the military to be a place where competency reigns.

00:22:20.000 That if you don't land the plane, your national security is at risk.

00:22:22.000 You're not able to eliminate the enemy, your national security is at risk.

00:22:26.000 Should all of a sudden we be worrying about these arbitrary academic exercises of diversity, equity, inclusion, or saying, hey, we have the greatest fighting force in the history of the world, probably not worth messing that up for some sort of esoteric, abstract academic exercise.

00:22:41.000 And I also want to reinforce this.

00:22:44.000 This is something that is growing in every single facet, including in private hiring practices, college admission standards as well.

00:22:52.000 And so we as Christians, I think, have a moral obligation.

00:22:55.000 We have a moral obligation not just to say we disagree at this, but to say that this is evil.

00:22:59.000 To say that we are going to reject the re-tribalization of any sort of society or civilization. 0.66

00:23:03.000 Good things don't happen after that.

00:23:04.000 People stop thinking and they start retreating to their tribal group based on ethnicity and based on racial identity.

00:23:11.000 And the ramifications of this are not just violence and all these things that, unfortunately, I think you're going to see, but it's going to make the American project, the American civilization, for our generation, I'm not much, I'm the same generation of many of you, all of a sudden a more dangerous and less pleasant place to live.

00:23:27.000 Murders are up 30% year over year since we started to defund the police, say that we're systemically racist, and retreat from the inner cities.

00:23:34.000 Austin is finally getting, I see some UT Austin people here, they're finally getting their act together, which is not saying much for Austin.

00:23:41.000 I mean, getting their act together.

00:23:43.000 It's not exactly the crown jewel of American cities.

00:23:47.000 But I think they finally say we don't want to get rid of the police.

00:23:50.000 I think that's finally been said, right?

00:23:51.000 Congratulations.

00:23:52.000 Yeah.

00:23:53.000 Big win.

00:23:54.000 And I do want to say, unlike Austin, Waco Police, they're doing this for free tonight.

00:23:57.000 God bless them for that.

00:23:58.000 Thank you guys for cheering.

00:24:02.000 Great.

00:24:10.000 And so there's a couple other points of this that I do want to kind of pose, which is why is it this becomes so popular?

00:24:18.000 And this is the big elephant in the room, because all of you might agree, and you're here tonight, and thank you, by the way, for showing up.

00:24:24.000 And maybe you disagree, and we'll have plenty of time to discuss that, which is everyone's afraid of being called a racist, and for good reason.

00:24:32.000 Because no one wants to be called the worst thing you could be called in decent American society.

00:24:36.000 And because of that, people stop in their tracks and they're willing to do things they otherwise would not do because they are willing, not willing.

00:24:44.000 They do not want to get the scarlet letter of social isolation that will basically destroy their entire career.

00:24:50.000 It is worse in American society to be accused of being a racist than being known as being an adulterer.

00:24:56.000 Now, I'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing.

00:24:58.000 I think that's actually rather troubling for a variety of different reasons.

00:25:01.000 We'll get into sexual anarchy in a second because we had a lot of fun saying that on social media the other day.

00:25:05.000 People lost their minds.

00:25:06.000 I don't know what, anyway, we're going to get into that.

00:25:08.000 I promise we're going to get into that.

00:25:09.000 Which is always fun to do because it frustrates people when you double down.

00:25:12.000 Good rule for life.

00:25:13.000 Double down if you're right.

00:25:14.000 It's a good rule for life.

00:25:16.000 If you're wrong, apologize.

00:25:16.000 If you're right.

00:25:18.000 You make mistakes, but if you're right, what are you going to let other people determine your opinions?

00:25:22.000 They somehow control you.

00:25:23.000 It's the craziest thing.

00:25:24.000 We'll get to that in a second, though.

00:25:25.000 Which is, so we have to ask ourselves the question: why do we allow an insult that you know is not true to determine or dictate your own behavior?

00:25:37.000 And I never sugarcoat things.

00:25:40.000 I respect all of you too much.

00:25:41.000 You take time out of your busy schedules to be here tonight to do anything but tell you the truth.

00:25:46.000 If you decide to speak out against this, you will not, you will have the opposite of the truth happen to you, which is you'll be called a bigot and a racist for opposing bigotry and racism.

00:25:56.000 And people in this room will pay a price.

00:25:58.000 There is no doubt.

00:26:00.000 You might be fired from your jobs, kicked out of your fraternity.

00:26:02.000 I don't know if that'll happen at Baylor.

00:26:03.000 Maybe, maybe not.

00:26:04.000 UT, absolutely.

00:26:07.000 Sorry, it's true.

00:26:09.000 Do we have any AM students here, by the way?

00:26:11.000 Anyone?

00:26:11.000 Couple.

00:26:12.000 Thank you for beating Alabama.

00:26:13.000 That was a contribution to America.

00:26:16.000 Thank you.

00:26:22.000 Saved Jimbo Fisher's job, too.

00:26:24.000 He was on the ropes to being like the king of college station in one week.

00:26:24.000 Let me tell you what.

00:26:28.000 Which is, you will pay a price.

00:26:31.000 I wish it wasn't the case.

00:26:33.000 I wish I could tell you something different.

00:26:34.000 We don't do hopium here at Turning Point USA.

00:26:37.000 Hope and opium mix it together really bad for you feels good.

00:26:39.000 And afterwards, you're like, what did I just do?

00:26:42.000 I'm not going to do the things like, hey, everything's going to be great.

00:26:44.000 You stand for truth, most popular person, and win all these followers, Instagram, all this.

00:26:48.000 No, if you speak out on this, your life's going to be difficult.

00:26:51.000 It's that simple.

00:26:52.000 But you have a moral obligation to do that as a Christian.

00:26:54.000 It says in Romans to love what is good and hate what is evil.

00:26:56.000 And all of a sudden, you're starting to see the resegregation of American society.

00:26:59.000 You're starting to see people that are being judged based on things they cannot control.

00:27:03.000 Say, no, I got a problem with that.

00:27:05.000 I don't care what you're going to call me.

00:27:06.000 The only way we break this is enough people starting to do that.

00:27:09.000 And guess what?

00:27:10.000 Being here tonight, it's a big deal.

00:27:12.000 It shows that, hey, I'm willing to show up at an event.

00:27:15.000 I'm willing to kind of tell my friends kind of something of what I believe.

00:27:20.000 And regardless, whatever accusation you could throw at me, so be it.

00:27:24.000 And that's not an easy thing, but my challenge to many of you here tonight is to be the same person in public you are in private.

00:27:30.000 Not easy.

00:27:31.000 But you'll be free.

00:27:32.000 That I believe many of the issues facing American society kind of stem back to this issue of people being deeply conflicted that they have to be somebody else the moment they leave their home, their dormitory, or their apartment.

00:27:46.000 That as soon as they leave their home, their dormitory, their apartment, they have to put on a camouflage and pretend to be somebody they're not and hold beliefs they do not have.

00:27:55.000 That is not free.

00:27:56.000 You are not free in that case.

00:27:58.000 And I will say, though, that no matter what the backlash you might receive, know this.

00:28:02.000 There are more people that agree with you than you could ever possibly imagine.

00:28:06.000 That it's going to take every person independently to stand up against this regardless of what they're going to tell you.

00:28:11.000 And I would just encourage, laugh it off, shrug it off, and then deflect it back.

00:28:15.000 And they're like, hold on a second.

00:28:16.000 You're calling me the racist for the one that says that segregation is bad.

00:28:19.000 And you're the bigot.

00:28:20.000 And they've never been called that before, actually, because it's true. 1.00

00:28:23.000 It's very simple.

00:28:25.000 That racism is saying that skin color matters.

00:28:29.000 It's that simple.

00:28:30.000 The position of this organization saying tonight is that skin color does not matter.

00:28:34.000 Instead, the character, the soul, and the spirit of a human being matters.

00:28:39.000 And that is what we should always give a preference on.

00:28:46.000 Okay, let's see how we're doing on time.

00:28:49.000 All right, I'm going to pivot a little bit here.

00:28:50.000 It's a lot of fun.

00:28:53.000 Tolerance.

00:28:54.000 Do you guys have those signs up anywhere on campus?

00:28:56.000 We need to tolerate things.

00:28:58.000 No, not Baylor's, thankfully not as fallen as other places.

00:29:04.000 Should we tolerate evil?

00:29:05.000 That's an interesting question, right?

00:29:07.000 And some people say yes, some people say no.

00:29:09.000 And it depends what your version, your kind of idea of tolerance is, right?

00:29:13.000 And what does that actually mean?

00:29:14.000 Aristotle, who is the man, hope you guys are studying Aristotle.

00:29:18.000 Maybe, maybe not.

00:29:18.000 Okay, no.

00:29:19.000 Well, I guess a little bit.

00:29:20.000 Yes, a couple people.

00:29:21.000 Good.

00:29:22.000 Praise God.

00:29:23.000 Aristotle said that tolerance and apathy are defining characteristics of a dying society.

00:29:29.000 Now, what did he mean by that?

00:29:31.000 Did he mean that you should be intolerant?

00:29:32.000 Because that's what they call us all the time.

00:29:34.000 What he meant is when all of a sudden people stopped caring about bad things happening around them.

00:29:34.000 No.

00:29:39.000 That's what he meant, okay?

00:29:40.000 That he was using them as synonyms, tolerance and apathy.

00:29:43.000 And I think this happens far too often.

00:29:45.000 And so since I've been, I haven't been controversial enough tonight, so I have to dive right into it.

00:29:50.000 So last week, I was doing my podcast and my radio show, and I said, you know, the left in this country wants people to live in a version of sexual anarchy.

00:29:57.000 People are like, what is that?

00:29:59.000 That sounds like a band.

00:30:00.000 Like, it's actually a great band name, by the way.

00:30:02.000 Hasn't been taken yet.

00:30:03.000 If anyone has a band, it actually might be, it's like the sex pistols. 0.65

00:30:06.000 It's like sexual anarchy.

00:30:07.000 No, it's very simple, Which is that it's this 1960s lie that's anti-biblical, anti-Christian, anti-natural law to do whatever feels good, to indulge in the flesh, to do whatever you want to do, whenever you want to do it, however you want to do it.

00:30:18.000 That doesn't make people free.

00:30:20.000 You will live in a state of anarchy spiritually and personally if you do that.

00:30:24.000 And it's become wildly unpopular to say this out loud, which is why are we having so many issues with students and young people when it comes to this sort of issue?

00:30:33.000 Is that I don't think we've ever been, I don't think we've been honest enough by saying people that liberty is not doing what you want to do whenever you want to do it.

00:30:39.000 Liberty is doing what you ought to do.

00:30:41.000 And from a Christian biblical perspective, it means standing up and having hopefully the clarity of saying, you know what, you should reject hookup culture, that you should save yourself for one person, loyally marry them, and stay in a monotonous, you know, a single relationship with them, and say that this is how the Bible wants us to live, and you will be more free because of that.

00:30:58.000 Now, mind you, when I say that, I get the exact reaction that I always get, and even from Christian audiences, silence.

00:31:04.000 Because either people are afraid or they disagree with that, where they're like, well, maybe no, actually, I kind of like a licentiousness world.

00:31:10.000 Look, I'm not here to moralize.

00:31:11.000 We're all fallen.

00:31:12.000 We're all sinners, okay? 0.78

00:31:13.000 I'm not going to be like, you're damned and all that sort of stuff.

00:31:16.000 I don't do that.

00:31:16.000 I'm going to say, though, it's not good for society.

00:31:18.000 It's not good for society and it's not good for you.

00:31:21.000 And God loves every single one of you enough to want to say, hey, get back into alignment with my commands.

00:31:25.000 Get back into obedience for how He wants to live.

00:31:27.000 I could tell you as someone who got married back in May that we need more young people to get married, that we need more young people to get married and have lots of children.

00:31:34.000 And I could say that this lie, especially to young women out there, because now we're going to get a lot of very controversial, this idea of putting your career more important than finding someone to be a partner for the rest of your life, it's making people deeply unhappy in America.

00:31:46.000 It really is.

00:31:47.000 And for men, I have something for men as well.

00:31:50.000 Men, you got to get your act together.

00:31:54.000 You see, the women always applaud, see?

00:31:57.000 And men are like, what are you talking about?

00:31:59.000 Be someone worth marrying.

00:32:01.000 Okay?

00:32:02.000 What does that mean?

00:32:03.000 Take responsibility.

00:32:04.000 Maybe you are.

00:32:05.000 Maybe you're all phenomenal.

00:32:07.000 Great.

00:32:07.000 Magnanimous, stoic, you know, weightlifting philosophers.

00:32:11.000 Terrific, okay?

00:32:12.000 Whatever.

00:32:14.000 Where women want to be with someone who can exhibit the fruit of the spirit of self-control, that can go a couple months without having to take a drink. 0.99

00:32:24.000 Not that I'm morally opposed to that, but that's a big deal.

00:32:27.000 It's like, is that person going to be able to control themselves against the impulses and the urges of the flesh when it matters the most?

00:32:34.000 Is that someone who's going to be courageous and clear about what it means to be a biblical and godly life?

00:32:39.000 We have a big problem in our country, which is more and more young people are not getting married. 1.00

00:32:43.000 It is the least married generation in American history.

00:32:45.000 We are on the verge of a population collapse where young people are not having children like they used to.

00:32:50.000 And I think it's making America deeply unhappy. 0.99

00:32:53.000 I believe that the bioengineering that is trying to happen right now, go find your happiness in a career and freeze your eggs, garbage.

00:33:00.000 Go find someone that loves the Lord, get married, and stay married to that person and have a lot of children.

00:33:05.000 It's worked for a very long time.

00:33:10.000 And yeah, so I call this sexual anarchy.

00:33:14.000 We're living through it.

00:33:15.000 Do what you want to do whenever you want to do it, however you want to do it.

00:33:18.000 And this is best exhibited by what we just saw in Loudoun County, Virginia. 0.99

00:33:23.000 And I've been an outspoken critic of the transgender garbage happening in our country. 1.00

00:33:27.000 God created man, God created woman. 1.00

00:33:29.000 Don't have to overthink this.

00:33:33.000 And this is where tolerance goes wrong, right?

00:33:39.000 So back in May, unfortunately, in Loudoun County, and I'm sure people are going to say this is an isolated example.

00:33:44.000 Well, fine.

00:33:45.000 So you can use it as it is.

00:33:45.000 This is an example.

00:33:47.000 In Loudoun County, Virginia, they instituted that men can go into the women's restrooms. 0.97

00:33:51.000 A man wore a skirt. 0.57

00:33:52.000 It's incredibly graphic.

00:33:52.000 You might have saw this story.

00:33:53.000 I'll do my best not to get into the details of it.

00:33:56.000 Man wearing a skirt goes into the restroom and unfortunately takes advantage of a young ninth grader.

00:34:01.000 School covers it up, doesn't talk about it.

00:34:03.000 Father tries to go to the school board meeting and talk about it.

00:34:06.000 Gets arrested, gets called a domestic terrorist by the National School Board Association.

00:34:09.000 Biden's Department of Justice then goes after him, says that he's unruly and all these sorts of things for just showing up and complaining at a meeting.

00:34:16.000 And what did the school board do?

00:34:18.000 They moved the man who thinks he's a woman who's suffering from a very real mental condition called gender dysphoria.

00:34:23.000 And these people deserve compassion and treatment and healing.

00:34:26.000 You should not redesign society for people that unfortunately are suffering from this disease. 1.00

00:34:31.000 It's a very real thing.

00:34:32.000 I'm not saying that, you know, anything but what I just said.

00:34:35.000 However, what they did is they were accommodating to an extent, tolerant, brought this person to another school, and it looks like he raped another girl and in two schools, totally covered up.

00:34:47.000 And this is all of a sudden the question of: are we going to have the courage to do what we know is right despite what people are going to call us? 0.87

00:34:53.000 You're transphobic.

00:34:55.000 Okay, whatever.

00:34:56.000 Here's what's right.

00:34:57.000 Women go into the women's locker room, men go in the men's locker room. 1.00

00:35:00.000 You got a problem?

00:35:00.000 We'll give you the help you need.

00:35:02.000 It's that simple.

00:35:03.000 We are not going to be part of the continuous and deliberate deconstruction of things that we know that work.

00:35:09.000 We believe in the laws of nature and nature's God, as Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence.

00:35:14.000 Now, many people are afraid to say this out loud because there's this false impression that we have to win friends over every single person.

00:35:20.000 That's fine.

00:35:21.000 I'm not here to offend people.

00:35:22.000 If you're offended, that's your problem, not mine, because my heart is not to try to offend you.

00:35:27.000 But I will say this: that people are becoming less free the more that we degrade the moral guardrails of our society.

00:35:38.000 That people are free when they actually abide to the law.

00:35:42.000 There's this great quote, they're going to take it down soon as soon as they discover it because I mentioned it way too much at the Harvard Law School.

00:35:47.000 It's far too wise for Harvard, right?

00:35:51.000 Where it's this great quote where it says, The law are the wise restraints that keep men free.

00:35:57.000 That freedom, and the sooner students realize this, the better.

00:36:01.000 And I pray that this is being taught to you, hopefully, maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

00:36:04.000 That freedom comes in the earthly sense, of course, from Jesus Christ and obeying to the scriptures, but that's the big one: obeying what God wants for your life, right?

00:36:13.000 Which is that you will be free not from going to do whatever you want to do, things that make you feel good immediately, but instead obeying the commands as how God wants you to live.

00:36:23.000 That will be a state of freedom, and I'll prove it to you.

00:36:25.000 All of us know alcoholics in our life.

00:36:28.000 It's a very serious thing.

00:36:29.000 Those people are not free.

00:36:31.000 They do whatever they want to do a lot of times whenever they want to do it.

00:36:34.000 But unfortunately, that is not a state of freedom.

00:36:36.000 That is a save, that is a state of bondage to a certain substance that unfortunately then takes control of their mind and their body, and hopefully not their spirit.

00:36:45.000 And so, yeah, that's kind of what sexual anarchy is. 0.98

00:36:48.000 And I wanted to make sure I mentioned it.

00:36:49.000 I'm sure people are loving that on YouTube.

00:36:51.000 Okay, in closing, let me say this before we do some questions: which is, I want to say, for those of you out there that are conservative, but you're not always paying attention to this stuff, but center-right, I want to encourage you as Christians and as people that are on this campus to keep on learning, dive deep into these ideas, make yourself a lifelong adventurer of these ideas.

00:37:12.000 There's a beautiful and wondrous world, an incredible body of philosophy and literature around these ideas that is exciting, that is compelling, and it goes deep into the things that you have been told your whole life that you thought just might dismiss.

00:37:25.000 That all of a sudden I think will complete a worldview that will not just make your life happier and more satisfactory, but also make the world a better place.

00:37:34.000 And this is what I'll close on.

00:37:35.000 Our country's fallen apart.

00:37:36.000 It is arguable our country's fallen apart.

00:37:39.000 We got shipping containers.

00:37:41.000 Hey, at least Biden got a boat parade, okay?

00:37:43.000 He's got shipping containers off the coast of California.

00:37:45.000 Finally, got a boat parade.

00:37:47.000 It's terrific.

00:37:48.000 Inflation is setting and the border is wide open.

00:37:52.000 My goodness.

00:37:53.000 Where did I even start?

00:37:55.000 We're borrowing like $5 trillion a year.

00:37:57.000 We got all sorts of problems, right?

00:38:00.000 The cost of heating your home in Chicago is going to nearly double over the winter.

00:38:05.000 Southwest Airlines is a complete mess.

00:38:08.000 It's like a third world country now trying to get on an airplane. 1.00

00:38:10.000 I don't know if you noticed that recently.

00:38:12.000 And yeah, we got serious problems.

00:38:14.000 But I encourage all of you to take a step back and say, what kind of country do I want to live in?

00:38:20.000 You know, what kind of America do I want to participate in?

00:38:22.000 And that script has not yet been written.

00:38:24.000 And that's the optimistic point for everyone here in this audience.

00:38:27.000 It is on us, our generation.

00:38:29.000 And I want to all of a sudden, I want to live through an American revival and resurgence.

00:38:33.000 I want to make the naysayers wrong.

00:38:35.000 I want to prove the ruling class to be mistaken by thinking that the cake is baked, that there will be an equal and opposite reaction of decent, patriotic American people and young people that say, you know what?

00:38:47.000 I'm not going to put up with this.

00:38:49.000 That I want to love my country again.

00:38:51.000 I don't want to organize people based on the color of their skin.

00:38:53.000 I don't want to segregate people.

00:38:55.000 I want to live in a country that respects natural rights.

00:38:57.000 I believe in the natural law and the natural lawgiver.

00:39:00.000 And I believe church is essential.

00:39:02.000 I want a country with borders.

00:39:04.000 I want to, you know, people that go to DC that are not completely and totally corrupt, which would be great.

00:39:09.000 And that's the type of country I want to live in.

00:39:11.000 And guess what?

00:39:12.000 We can still make that happen.

00:39:13.000 And we have to be, we have to reject cynicism.

00:39:16.000 I have to do it every day.

00:39:17.000 Okay?

00:39:18.000 It's easy to be cynical.

00:39:19.000 Things are terrible.

00:39:20.000 There's an international globalist elite.

00:39:22.000 There's nothing we can do.

00:39:23.000 Stop it.

00:39:23.000 We as Christians are commanded not to be cynical.

00:39:27.000 We're commanded to be, we are commanded to not just be optimistic because we know how the story ends, but we have to be salt and light here on this earth to a very dark world.

00:39:35.000 And I can't stand when Christians say, you know, Charlie, it's just all kind of falling apart and the world is ending. 0.99

00:39:39.000 And I say this, you know, Jesus is coming next Thursday, which might be true, by the way.

00:39:43.000 You know, for people that have heavy emphasis on eschatology.

00:39:46.000 If you think the world is falling apart, then your worldview is no different than Greta Thunberg.

00:39:50.000 It's true.

00:39:51.000 If you think the world is falling apart, then you're a Christian version of Greta Thunberg. 0.98

00:39:55.000 What's the difference?

00:39:56.000 The polar ice caps are melting.

00:39:58.000 You know, leopards are going to fall from the sky.

00:40:00.000 Like, you know what?

00:40:01.000 No.

00:40:01.000 We're going to be the ones that are solution-oriented, understand where we come from, and we're going to be the ones that chart the path forward.

00:40:07.000 And I'll say this: the conservative movement, those of you that are conservative out there that have lost, I just ask, how many of you have been graded differently because of your political affiliation ideology?

00:40:14.000 Raise your hands.

00:40:15.000 I'm just curious.

00:40:15.000 It's not as many hands as usual, but for Baylor, that's still far too many, I could tell you.

00:40:19.000 Which is, you're going to become a stronger person because of that.

00:40:23.000 Lean into it.

00:40:24.000 You will become a stronger person the more you're persecuted because of your beliefs.

00:40:28.000 And I'll end with this: Who's going to win the future?

00:40:30.000 The side that is willing to get fired because they don't want to take a vaccine, or the side that gets so offended because they get called the gender, the wrong gender pronoun?

00:40:38.000 Which side's going to win the future?

00:40:39.000 I think we all know who.

00:40:40.000 All right, let's do some questions, everybody, and thank you for sitting through that.

00:40:52.000 All right, before we get started, the questions, can you raise your hand, please?

00:40:55.000 Thank you.

00:40:56.000 This is an overwhelming conservative audience, right?

00:41:00.000 I'm sure we have some people that disagree and we want to hear from them.

00:41:04.000 No booing, laughing, or going after them.

00:41:07.000 Let's give liberals the respect they never give us when they come to our events and give them an opportunity to talk.

00:41:14.000 I mean that.

00:41:15.000 It takes boldness to come to an event of places you don't agree with and ask questions.

00:41:20.000 So please, you might be on edge.

00:41:21.000 You might want to yell something out.

00:41:23.000 Don't do that, okay?

00:41:24.000 We want to have dialogue, even though free speech is under attack so much in our country.

00:41:27.000 Okay, anyone, questions right here?

00:41:29.000 You guys can start lining up and let it be known.

00:41:32.000 Disagreements are allowed to cut to the front of the line.

00:41:34.000 So you guys can start to line up.

00:41:38.000 And I will say this as people go, make sure you market your calendars.

00:41:41.000 America Fest, December 18, 19, 2021 in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:41:45.000 It's going to be unbelievable.

00:41:47.000 So check it out.

00:41:48.000 December 18, 19, 2021.

00:41:50.000 Also, for those of you that have not yet subscribed to our wonderful Charlie Kirk Show podcast, you can do that.

00:41:57.000 Shameless plug.

00:41:57.000 I'm only going to do it one more time.

00:41:59.000 All right.

00:41:59.000 First question.

00:42:00.000 And again, if you disagree over the front of the line, I promise you we will give you respect and uninterrupted time if you disagree to be able to make a point.

00:42:07.000 Okay.

00:42:07.000 Yes.

00:42:08.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:42:09.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:42:09.000 Thank you so much for being here.

00:42:11.000 So I have a question just about the conservative movement as a whole.

00:42:14.000 And having studied the conservative movement, I just see it as an anti-left movement.

00:42:19.000 I'm just being against whatever the left is against it and just moving further and further to the left.

00:42:24.000 Like, how do we change that to where the conservative movement is actually preserving something rather than just being against whatever the left is and then eventually adopting whatever they think?

00:42:33.000 That's a profound point.

00:42:34.000 You're exactly right.

00:42:36.000 And I'm trying to fix that.

00:42:37.000 Part of this tour is obviously playing defense because CRT is everywhere.

00:42:42.000 But I'm going to tell you stuff that I think the conservative movement needs to be for.

00:42:45.000 And I had this great disagreement with a friend of mine on our podcast where Dana Lash, she's a terrific person, but I said that the conservative movement should stand for paying people to have children if they stay in monogamous relationships.

00:42:58.000 And she said, no way.

00:42:59.000 Like, that's too much government intervention.

00:43:01.000 I said, oh, hold on a second.

00:43:02.000 If we're not here to preserve the family and have more children, then what are we preserving?

00:43:07.000 Right?

00:43:08.000 And that's just like one example, right?

00:43:09.000 We need to fix the declining birth rate.

00:43:11.000 People having large families is good for society.

00:43:14.000 It's good for people.

00:43:15.000 And what are the main reasons why people decide not to have kids in America?

00:43:19.000 Number one is financial.

00:43:20.000 And so we should do something to try to fix that, or at least try to intervene in a way that has an objective moral good.

00:43:25.000 Having children is an objective moral good.

00:43:28.000 And some people say, well, I don't want to have children when I get older.

00:43:30.000 Well, then you're not going to get the money, okay?

00:43:32.000 So maybe you should have children.

00:43:35.000 And so I will also say some of the things that we as conservatives should be for: we should be unafraid to try to encourage people to get in a relationship with their creator.

00:43:44.000 Now, I obviously believe that Christianity is the only way, but I want to try to have people think more openly about, hey, like we want to have church rates go up, not down.

00:43:56.000 And some people say that, Charlie, the conservative movement needs to be libertarian on these issues.

00:43:59.000 Who are we to say, hold on a second, we are the ones to say that some things are better than others.

00:44:04.000 We are the ones to say that drag queen story hour is an awful thing and should not be allowed. 1.00

00:44:09.000 That children should not be preyed on by men in dresses to think as if that's some sort of biological norm.

00:44:13.000 Now that's creepy and weird and shouldn't be allowed.

00:44:16.000 And it's bad for society.

00:44:17.000 Now, this is a debate happening on the right.

00:44:19.000 And if you would have asked me four or five years ago, I would have been more in the libertarian direction.

00:44:23.000 And part of it's getting older, part of it's getting married.

00:44:25.000 Part of it is seeing the destruction of the world around you.

00:44:28.000 And part of it is also understanding, diving deeper into the literature of objective truth and the metaphysics of all this of saying, hey, this society is falling apart.

00:44:38.000 What keeps societies together?

00:44:39.000 What is the only one of the Ten Commandments that has a promise in it?

00:44:42.000 It's not do not murder.

00:44:44.000 It's not do not steal.

00:44:45.000 It is honor your mother and fathers that you might live long in the land of which you are in.

00:44:50.000 A relationship between a mother and a child or a father and a child is how a society continues to grow.

00:44:57.000 That's a promise for the nation.

00:44:59.000 And guess what?

00:45:00.000 At every turn, you see them trying to destroy the relationship between a mother and a father.

00:45:06.000 You have the leading candidate for the governorship in Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, say, who are parents to say that they think they know better than teachers?

00:45:15.000 They say teachers know better than parents.

00:45:18.000 This is now public policy that's being implemented.

00:45:20.000 The country falls apart if that's the case.

00:45:22.000 We say, you know, no, no, we want to empower parents more.

00:45:25.000 We want to make families stronger.

00:45:26.000 We want to enforce, you know, we want to empower the role of the church in decent society.

00:45:31.000 And so I completely agree, and I'm happy to go into more things that we should stand for.

00:45:36.000 But I don't, here's what bothers me the most.

00:45:38.000 I can't stand when I hear people in the conservative movement that do nothing but anti-socialism talk the entire time, right?

00:45:44.000 I can't stand socialism.

00:45:45.000 It's evil. 0.99

00:45:46.000 It kills people.

00:45:47.000 Happy to talk about it. 0.63

00:45:48.000 It's an awful ideology.

00:45:49.000 But then they're like, well, then what?

00:45:50.000 Corporate tax rates?

00:45:51.000 Really?

00:45:51.000 Like, the companies that hate us know.

00:45:53.000 We want to preserve the good, the true, and the beautiful.

00:45:57.000 That includes life in the womb.

00:45:59.000 That includes church life, big families, and a moral center and a transcendent order.

00:46:05.000 Those are things that the conservative movement should stand for.

00:46:08.000 Thank you.

00:46:16.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:46:17.000 I'm a big fan.

00:46:18.000 I just want to say I'm also a conservative, but about two to four weeks ago on your podcast, you had said that there is a ploy to kind of undermine the white majority in America, which is something that I do completely agree with you with. 1.00

00:46:30.000 However, something I think needs to be said is if there really is no kind of differences in races, then why is that even a concern to begin with?

00:46:39.000 That's a very good question.

00:46:41.000 Doug, you can finish if you want.

00:46:42.000 Oh, and it's been working because studies have shown that there are minority groups and they are more prone to vote Democrat than they are Republican.

00:46:51.000 So I just wanted to kind of get a clarification on that and kind of further ask, is it necessary to preserve the white majority in America?

00:46:58.000 So I'll answer that second part.

00:47:00.000 It shouldn't matter.

00:47:01.000 Skin color should not matter. 1.00

00:47:02.000 I'm going to use their own words against them, though.

00:47:04.000 So the Castro brothers, not from Cuba, but from San Antonio, the twins, the whole segment I did, by the way, just so we're clear, was about what they said, which is that skin color, to my view, means nothing.

00:47:17.000 It's immaterial.

00:47:18.000 But they are saying that demographic replacement will be political power for them in the future.

00:47:23.000 They're openly admitting it.

00:47:25.000 They're saying that they are trying to have a non-stop flow of people coming into the country to try to displace a certain ethnic group.

00:47:32.000 And I want to just reiterate this.

00:47:34.000 The whole point of this tour is that skin color does not matter and the spirit and the soul of a human being matters.

00:47:40.000 But when the Castro brothers go on Face the Nation in 2014-15, they say, hey, just a matter of time.

00:47:45.000 Texas will be a Democrat majority because white people are decreasing and Hispanics are increasing.

00:47:51.000 I say, wait a second, who's the one that's talking about race?

00:47:54.000 Who's the one that's trying to talk about a replacement theory?

00:47:56.000 That's their own words.

00:47:57.000 Joe Biden in 2017 came out and he said, it's just a matter of time before white people decrease and people of color increase.

00:48:04.000 And so what I said is very, and I stand by it, that is part of their agenda and their goal.

00:48:08.000 Part of their agenda and their goal is to try for whatever their main motivations is, which they say out loud, which is to try to demographically have confusion in the country.

00:48:16.000 Let me say this, though.

00:48:17.000 It's not working out the way they thought it would, because especially in the Rio Grande Valley here in Texas, you saw in the last election cycle, all of a sudden that went for Trump.

00:48:26.000 Now, there's a lot of complexities to all this, but I will answer the final question directly.

00:48:31.000 It should not matter.

00:48:32.000 It should not matter that certain skin color votes a certain way.

00:48:36.000 Unfortunately, the left knows this, that when you have millions of people coming from certain countries that are lower income, that go to certain areas that are then preyed on by community organizing groups, they can turn those into automatic left-wing voting blocks.

00:48:52.000 But yeah, I mean, I stand by my comments completely, but I just want to make sure that everyone is clear, especially for media matters watching this, which is kind of our publicist.

00:48:59.000 They publicize everything I say that gets a little spicy, which is that they on the other side are openly admitting that, right?

00:49:06.000 They're the ones that are calling for demographic replacement.

00:49:08.000 We're the ones doing tours saying that skin color should not and does not matter.

00:49:12.000 So thank you for your question.

00:49:13.000 Appreciate you being here.

00:49:14.000 Thank you.

00:49:20.000 How you doing?

00:49:21.000 Good.

00:49:22.000 Okay, so I have these friends in my classes and we're good friends and all, but I have noticed that she wears like a Black Lives Matter t-shirt and she's very for critical race theory and she's African American.

00:49:39.000 And I just want to know like how you think, how can I like tell her and like make her kind of realize that these organizations and this kind of thinking is actually hurting her and not helping.

00:49:57.000 Is she here tonight?

00:49:58.000 No.

00:49:58.000 Okay, well, that would have helped.

00:50:01.000 Send her the tape. 0.90

00:50:02.000 So let's start with things we know to be true.

00:50:06.000 I'll go back to the first question.

00:50:08.000 I'll go head to head with anyone on this, and I'll actually tell you the stats right here, which is, you destroy the family, you destroy the nation.

00:50:15.000 I believe you destroy the soul of an individual.

00:50:17.000 Strong family, strong country.

00:50:18.000 It's that simple.

00:50:20.000 And BLM Incorporated had on their website that they exist to destroy and disrupt the Western prescribed nuclear family.

00:50:27.000 Now, they actually removed it after about six months.

00:50:31.000 So it's either they don't believe that anymore or they don't want you to see that.

00:50:35.000 I think it's the latter, not the former.

00:50:37.000 But if you look in 1950, 20% of all marriages ended in divorce.

00:50:42.000 Today it's approximately 40% as high as 50% in certain parts of the country.

00:50:46.000 Four in 10 American children are born to unmarried mothers, up from about 5% in 1960.

00:50:52.000 Here's my biggest problem with BLM Incorporated, number one, which is if they all of a sudden said, hey, black fathers matter, I'd be marching alongside them in the streets. 0.64

00:51:00.000 Instead, it is an anti-American history, the way we teach American history, and an anti-police movement in nature that does not get to the root causes of what I believe makes every society and every community improve regardless of skin color, which is fathers in the home and taking responsibility for their actions and their choices.

00:51:18.000 Now, none of this might not be helpful in your conversation with your friend, but I would just ask a series of questions to your friend, which is, do you believe that putting fathers back in the home is a good goal?

00:51:28.000 Should we try to do that?

00:51:30.000 77% of black children in America in certain cities are born without a father.

00:51:35.000 The national average is 70%.

00:51:37.000 So without a stable father in the home, obviously they have a father or else they wouldn't have been created, right?

00:51:42.000 But the point is that without a stable father in the home.

00:51:45.000 And that's not sustainable.

00:51:47.000 And so let me just kind of give you one fact that shows that debunks the systemic racism argument, which is if you take a white child that is raised by a single mother or a black child that is raised by a mother and a father, then the white child raised by just the single mother is less likely to succeed in every metric you can choose.

00:52:08.000 High school graduation, not going to prison, getting a job, income levels, where the black child is more likely to succeed.

00:52:15.000 It's parenting levels.

00:52:16.000 And it really is that simple.

00:52:18.000 But unfortunately, this is something that we do not have a hyper focus on.

00:52:22.000 Instead, we'd much rather talk about police brutality or how we teach American history in our schools or how about our schools in general.

00:52:29.000 The second thing, number one, families, number two, is schools, where if there was ever an argument to say that there is systemic racism by intent, which I do not believe, but if there ever was a data point that I could work with, it's the quality of the government-run schools in our inner cities across the country run by public sector teacher unions.

00:52:48.000 It is a moral disgrace that we allow the public sector teacher unions to do what they have done to our inner city schools.

00:52:55.000 In Baltimore, they could not find a fifth grader out of six schools that could read at grade level or could do math equations at grade level.

00:53:02.000 Not one black child at grade level.

00:53:04.000 So you combine that then with a broken home and schools that are not doing their job.

00:53:08.000 And some people say, well, Charlie, these schools are massively underfunded.

00:53:12.000 Now, if you compare them to suburban schools, they are slightly underfunded.

00:53:15.000 But even when the funding gap is met, the biggest issue is quality of the teacher and the type of school that it is.

00:53:20.000 A charter school or a Catholic school with less money will have much higher outputs than a public school with more money.

00:53:28.000 It's the quality of the teacher and the culture of the school.

00:53:31.000 So what does that mean?

00:53:32.000 We got to break the back of the public sector unions in this country.

00:53:35.000 We've got to change the way that we educate our children.

00:53:37.000 We have to hold our teachers accountable, pay good teachers more, fire bad teachers, and fire them quickly and have them go find another job, which does not exist in most states across the country.

00:53:46.000 We should have at-will termination of teachers.

00:53:48.000 And I'll finally say this, kind of like, how do you kind of relate with this?

00:53:51.000 Don't stop talking.

00:53:52.000 She might stop talking to you, but do not stop having dialogue and discussion.

00:53:57.000 It's a moral imperative for us to keep talking, which is why we're here tonight.

00:54:00.000 So thank you so much.

00:54:01.000 Appreciate it.

00:54:06.000 Sorry, good morning, Charlie.

00:54:10.000 Hope you're well.

00:54:11.000 Anyway, so two quick questions.

00:54:16.000 First one is, do you believe in the First Amendment and freedom of speech?

00:54:20.000 Just because it's critical to the next question.

00:54:24.000 Well, it's probably leading the questioner, but you bring it on.

00:54:27.000 Yeah, I believe in the First Amendment.

00:54:29.000 Okay.

00:54:30.000 Yeah, I just assume so.

00:54:32.000 And the second question is, do you believe CRT should be banned in states because of that?

00:54:40.000 And obviously, banning speech is a very risky thing to do.

00:54:46.000 I know exactly where your question's coming from.

00:54:48.000 Do you think we should teach eugenics in schools?

00:54:52.000 No.

00:54:53.000 Okay, so that would be banning speech, right?

00:54:54.000 Yeah.

00:54:55.000 Okay, so bad ideas should be banned and not taught to kids.

00:54:58.000 Okay.

00:54:59.000 Thank you.

00:55:00.000 Thank you.

00:55:08.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:55:10.000 So I'm returning back to school in January, and I think I have the most useless degree, political science.

00:55:18.000 And I'm trying to morally figure out what do I want to do going back to school?

00:55:24.000 Do I want to change my major and what will actually benefit me?

00:55:28.000 And that I've changed my major about three times now.

00:55:32.000 So I'm, yeah, I like what kind of major, if you're going to school, would actually benefit in this world?

00:55:40.000 Because college doesn't.

00:55:42.000 Do you have your undergrad?

00:55:44.000 Okay.

00:55:44.000 Not yet.

00:55:45.000 Yeah.

00:55:47.000 We've gotten to know each other and you wrote me the nicest note when my wife and I got married.

00:55:50.000 So thank you.

00:55:51.000 You go to UT, right?

00:55:52.000 Yes.

00:55:52.000 Well, I work there, yeah.

00:55:54.000 Okay.

00:55:55.000 So, yeah, I'll challenge you.

00:55:58.000 Just ask yourself, do I need to go to college?

00:56:00.000 I don't want to personally, but my family really wants to.

00:56:04.000 Are they paying for it?

00:56:05.000 Yeah.

00:56:05.000 Okay.

00:56:06.000 Well, then that's important.

00:56:07.000 That's a very important thing.

00:56:08.000 Then the leverage is changed.

00:56:08.000 Okay.

00:56:10.000 See, the reason I was able to squeak out of not going to Baylor is I had to take out the debt.

00:56:15.000 So I had a very good leverage, you know, as a good negotiating position.

00:56:18.000 Like, yeah, this is not for me.

00:56:21.000 Obviously, I mean, I could ask you a variety of different questions on this, but if you have to go to school, I would try to find a degree or a major that you believe challenges you and you believe will help develop your character and that will study things that are ancient, that are eternal, and rooted in wisdom.

00:56:39.000 You might not find that at a school in Austin, but I'm sure there's a school somewhere in, again, I'm not very pro-Austin if you haven't.

00:56:47.000 Maybe Baylor is that place.

00:56:50.000 I do school online.

00:56:54.000 Sorry.

00:56:56.000 I do school online.

00:56:58.000 Okay.

00:56:59.000 You and I should chat.

00:57:00.000 I got some ideas.

00:57:01.000 And I'm also a huge advocate.

00:57:03.000 Not everyone can go there of Hillsdale College.

00:57:05.000 It's terrific.

00:57:06.000 And everyone should take their online courses, CharlieForhillsdale.com.

00:57:10.000 It'll benefit your life.

00:57:11.000 And those of you that are in like history course and you're looking for places where you could learn history if your teacher's not teaching history, CharlieForhillsdale.com.

00:57:20.000 I think I can help you.

00:57:20.000 Let's chat, though.

00:57:21.000 Thank you.

00:57:22.000 Next question.

00:57:22.000 Thank you.

00:57:23.000 And again, if you disagree, you can kind of hop in line if you want.

00:57:27.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:57:28.000 So I'm a grad student.

00:57:29.000 I'm at the seminary at Baylor.

00:57:31.000 And we just recently got finished studying critical theory to understand social theories.

00:57:36.000 One of the arguments that my professor was making, and I totally disagree with him, is he said that if we don't care, you know, if we have this idea that, oh, your race doesn't matter, we're not fully loving God's creation.

00:57:50.000 I know that to be a perversion of scripture, but I'm not sure how to combat him when I'm trying to make the argument against that.

00:57:57.000 What would you have for tips?

00:57:59.000 That's a really good question.

00:58:01.000 And so I'll just kind of reiterate what do the scriptures say.

00:58:04.000 I mean, in Samuel, and I'll said this earlier, is that God does not look at the outward appearance of the stature.

00:58:09.000 He looks at that of the heart.

00:58:11.000 And so God does not care about the skin color or melanin content in a person's skin.

00:58:17.000 He cares about your soul.

00:58:18.000 You're not going to be accepted into the kingdom of God into eternal life based on your skin color. 1.00

00:58:24.000 It'll be whether or not you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and the chairman of the board of your life.

00:58:29.000 Now, let me say this.

00:58:30.000 If you're ready for something controversial, let me ask you a question.

00:58:34.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:58:37.000 Does he tell you to be empathetic?

00:58:39.000 Yes.

00:58:40.000 Okay.

00:58:41.000 That word is not biblical.

00:58:42.000 It is nowhere in the Bible.

00:58:44.000 And in fact, empathy is killing this country.

00:58:45.000 Now, let me tell you why.

00:58:47.000 Empathy means in the pathology in the Greek, M, in pathos, which we know, you know, ethos, pathos, logos, pathology, feelings.

00:58:55.000 In the feelings of another.

00:58:57.000 Nowhere is that word biblical.

00:58:58.000 It started in the 1920s to try to say, I feel your pain movement or walk in somebody else's shoes.

00:59:03.000 Now, you should have sympathy, mercy, and compassion.

00:59:05.000 But this idea that you should feel somebody else's feelings, what does it say in the Bible?

00:59:09.000 It says that your feelings deceive you, is what it says in the Bible.

00:59:13.000 Now, I think the overemphasis on empathy and the underemphasis on reason and objectivity has turned us into a soft-feeling nation and not a wise thinking nation.

00:59:25.000 And so we as Christians say, wait a second, hold on.

00:59:27.000 Is empathy a biblical word?

00:59:29.000 Is that something that we're actually called to do?

00:59:31.000 And it's nowhere in the Bible.

00:59:32.000 It's not.

00:59:33.000 And now that's not to say you shouldn't care.

00:59:34.000 Compassion is in the Bible.

00:59:37.000 It doesn't mean you shouldn't have sympathy.

00:59:38.000 But empathy is the actual movement of walking a mile in the other person's shoes.

00:59:42.000 And that is a total and complete humanistic, and I believe non-biblical creation. 0.97

00:59:47.000 So you should go tell him that and tell me how that works out.

00:59:50.000 I'll let you know.

00:59:50.000 All right.

00:59:51.000 Thank you.

00:59:58.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:59:59.000 My question for you kind of has to deal with, you said we should push back against critical race theory and those kind of ideas.

01:00:04.000 My question is, after that, the next step should be regaining kind of the rational and healthy discourse.

01:00:09.000 But how do you propose that we do that?

01:00:10.000 Or do you think it's like too late for our generation to regain that?

01:00:13.000 I hope not.

01:00:14.000 And I mean, I'm trying, and I fail.

01:00:17.000 I'm not perfect at this.

01:00:18.000 We're all sinners to embody that tonight.

01:00:20.000 If you disagree, it comes to the line.

01:00:22.000 I'll let you talk.

01:00:23.000 We'll have a back and forth.

01:00:24.000 It's tempting to not want to do that because you lose patience.

01:00:29.000 But I encourage all of you.

01:00:30.000 And so this is a very important point, which is what is a human being?

01:00:33.000 And a human being is mind, body, soul, mind, body, spirit.

01:00:38.000 We were made in the image of God, just as the biblical Trinity would be.

01:00:42.000 But we are the speaking beings.

01:00:43.000 We are the beings that are able to make sense of the natural world through speech.

01:00:47.000 So there's two creation stories in the Bible.

01:00:49.000 First, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

01:00:52.000 And then John 1.

01:00:53.000 John 1, 1, in the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

01:00:57.000 Now that word Word is logos, which means rational speech, reason, the ability to speak things into existence.

01:01:03.000 Now, we're made in the image of God.

01:01:04.000 So that's who we are.

01:01:06.000 When we stop talking to one another, we stop being fully human.

01:01:09.000 When we stop talking to one another, we stop doing how God wants us to live as a complete and total, full human being.

01:01:16.000 Our capacity to have dialogue.

01:01:17.000 So dialogue comes from a Greek word dia through log logos through reason.

01:01:22.000 We don't have that anymore.

01:01:23.000 We have shouting matches or we go back to what tribes.

01:01:26.000 You want tribalism to end in America, ethnocentrism to end?

01:01:30.000 We need to talk more.

01:01:31.000 We don't do that enough.

01:01:32.000 I try to do that with some of my debates.

01:01:34.000 They don't always go as well as we would plan if you guys saw the recent one.

01:01:36.000 It was a circus.

01:01:37.000 But we had the discussion nevertheless.

01:01:39.000 And I'm afraid we're losing that, right?

01:01:42.000 We're trying our best.

01:01:43.000 We obviously have very strong opinions here at turning point.

01:01:46.000 But we always just want to say, look, when we stop talking, we start stereotyping, prejudicing, and categorizing.

01:01:52.000 And that really bothers me.

01:01:53.000 It does.

01:01:54.000 We obviously believe we have the truth and we have the right answers about things.

01:01:58.000 But we would never say that we don't want to try to speak to the other side and try to either see where they see it from or have them see it from our perspective.

01:02:07.000 So how do you do it?

01:02:08.000 Try to live that out the best you possibly can.

01:02:11.000 But don't pander.

01:02:13.000 It's a very important point.

01:02:14.000 This is where it gets tough.

01:02:15.000 So people would rather be silent than tell the truth because they're afraid of pandering.

01:02:20.000 So what does that look like?

01:02:21.000 Being like, oh, yeah, like there might be a God.

01:02:24.000 There might not be a God.

01:02:26.000 Like, who knows? 1.00

01:02:27.000 It's better to be quiet than say that garbage. 0.99

01:02:29.000 Let me be very clear. 0.99

01:02:30.000 It's better to be silent than to pander.

01:02:31.000 So be careful.

01:02:32.000 If you're not ready, it's better to not speak than to speak a lie or a half-truth to try to win approval over from the world.

01:02:39.000 I hope that's helpful.

01:02:40.000 Thank you.

01:02:44.000 Hey, Charlie.

01:02:46.000 So back in July 4th, Christian Collins came and spoke in my church, and he said that the worst thing the church did was they left government.

01:02:55.000 How do we get the church back into government and how do we retake our government in the swiftest path possible? 0.93

01:03:03.000 That was said very bluntly.

01:03:05.000 I'm not going to say we should retake the government swiftly, but I think we should try to influence and be a counselor to the king.

01:03:11.000 But I appreciate the zeal and the enthusiasm.

01:03:15.000 Yes, so look, so this is an interesting question, right?

01:03:17.000 Which is, should Christians care about your government? 0.99

01:03:22.000 And some Christians say no.

01:03:23.000 I don't care about politics.

01:03:24.000 I don't care about this.

01:03:25.000 Well, it says in Jeremiah 29, 7, the Lord is speaking, where it says, demand, which the Hebrew word for demand is badrash, the welfare, shalom, of the nation or the city I have sent you in, because your welfare is tied to your city or nation's welfare.

01:03:41.000 It says in Deuteronomy that you should choose your kings and your leaders wisely.

01:03:45.000 So we are called throughout the Old Testament and the New Testament to be counselors to the king.

01:03:49.000 In addition to that, I will say that in some people that say, oh, we shouldn't be involved at all, well, then they would have to take a scissor to their Bible and remove Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, Joseph, and others in the New Testament that were counselors to the king of secular government for God's purpose.

01:04:05.000 All throughout the Old Testament, people we view as heroes, people we view favorably, we're trying to influence secular government for God's purpose.

01:04:12.000 Now, this can get confusing for a lot of Christians, which is I encourage, and we're trying to do this through Turning Point Faith, biblical citizenship classes in churches to teach Christians verse by verse, chapter by chapter, what does the Bible say about getting involved in these sorts of things?

01:04:25.000 What does the Bible say about abortion?

01:04:27.000 When does life begin?

01:04:28.000 What does the Bible say about marriage?

01:04:29.000 What does the Bible say about gender?

01:04:30.000 What does the Bible say about private property?

01:04:32.000 What does the Bible say about borders?

01:04:33.000 What does the Bible say about immigration?

01:04:34.000 Guess what?

01:04:35.000 It says a lot about all those things.

01:04:37.000 And saying, like, hey, we don't get involved in that, well, you're going to have to make sense of all of a sudden as I knew you before you were in the womb.

01:04:42.000 You're going to have to make sense of God created man and God created woman. 0.99

01:04:44.000 Again, not exactly a difficult verse to understand.

01:04:48.000 But there's more that are more difficult.

01:04:50.000 There's ones where you're like, man, I see some contradicting ones when it comes to idea of welfare, government assistance.

01:04:56.000 There's verses that say, a man shall not work, he shall not eat.

01:04:58.000 Paul reiterated that in the New Testament, says in the Proverbs.

01:05:01.000 It also says, hey, we're supposed to give our own belongings to someone if they need a tunic off my back.

01:05:06.000 How do I reconcile that?

01:05:07.000 Good question.

01:05:08.000 Let's talk about it.

01:05:09.000 And so I think that's the first step is even just saying we should be involved in it.

01:05:13.000 But that's the question.

01:05:14.000 I believe the Bible says in Jeremiah and other places to care about what's happening around you, that we should not be the type of Christians that only care about budgets, baptisms, and buildings, and do not ever comment on things that are happening outside our walls.

01:05:25.000 And guess what?

01:05:26.000 It's hard.

01:05:27.000 You will have disagreement.

01:05:29.000 Good.

01:05:30.000 Out of disagreement can come one of two things, clarity or retreat.

01:05:33.000 Maybe those people shouldn't have been around in the first place.

01:05:36.000 And some pastors aren't willing to do that.

01:05:37.000 They want to keep their tithes up. 0.94

01:05:39.000 They want to keep their offerings up.

01:05:40.000 But here's what I do find.

01:05:41.000 That churches that are standing, that are speaking out, they're seeing their tithes, their offerings, and their Sunday attendance go through the roof because people are doing the following.

01:05:48.000 They are leaving the churches where the pastors say, We don't do this.

01:05:51.000 But guess what?

01:05:51.000 Their 15-year-old daughter is being propagandized on TikTok, saying that there is no gender, there is no truth, and they're going to their pastor saying, Hey, what do I do about this?

01:05:59.000 Oh, we don't do that in this church.

01:06:01.000 And all they're like, Okay, well, I'm gonna go find another pastor that can lead me.

01:06:04.000 Because I, because people look to their pastors for leadership financially, maritally, you know, spiritually.

01:06:09.000 And all of a sudden, they're like, Hey, can you help make sense of some of this stuff?

01:06:12.000 Because I don't know, it's okay not to know.

01:06:14.000 I'm not the one that says, How dare you not know this?

01:06:16.000 That's okay.

01:06:17.000 I didn't know this stuff four or five years ago.

01:06:18.000 And I was raised in a Bible-believing church where we believe in the inerrancy of scripture and all this. 0.99

01:06:23.000 But I was, I went to a church where I said, We don't do politics, right?

01:06:26.000 Meanwhile, in that very community in the suburbs of Chicago, any Chicagoans here, by the way?

01:06:29.000 Yeah, cool, awesome.

01:06:31.000 In the suburbs of Chicago, where all of a sudden they had the first ever transgender bathroom put into high school five minutes from that church, and the church was like, Yeah, we're not going to comment on that.

01:06:39.000 And that was wrong.

01:06:41.000 And so, how do we do it?

01:06:42.000 We have to be leaders, we have to encourage our pastors.

01:06:44.000 We're trying to do that at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Faith in a variety of ways.

01:06:47.000 Thank you.

01:06:48.000 Appreciate it.

01:06:51.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:06:53.000 I actually don't go to Baylor.

01:06:54.000 I actually go to a school three hours from here called Stephen F. Austin State University.

01:06:57.000 Thank you for calling.

01:06:58.000 I don't know if anyone knows where that is, but it's in a tiny little town of Nacogdoches.

01:07:02.000 I am currently an interior design major with an art theory professor or art color, color theory professor who likes to talk about vaccines, and he never really actually stays on topic.

01:07:13.000 And when I actually tried to speak up, I'm actually having a panic attack right now, just talking in front of people, but in my class, doing great, by the way.

01:07:20.000 Thank you.

01:07:21.000 I try to speak up.

01:07:23.000 I try to speak up.

01:07:23.000 I'm like, I don't really know if I believe in the vaccine.

01:07:26.000 I don't really know if I believe in the things that you're talking about.

01:07:28.000 And he automatically shuts me down.

01:07:30.000 And obviously, I don't want to pander, but I eventually just close in on myself.

01:07:34.000 I'm like, okay, you're just going to believe what you're going to believe, and I can't really change you.

01:07:36.000 So, how do I continue to keep the conversation going?

01:07:39.000 But he just, if he just shuts me down, he goes, Well, you don't really know what you're talking about.

01:07:43.000 So, I'm going to help you out.

01:07:45.000 Don't focus on him, focus on winning other people in the class.

01:07:51.000 If you debate your professor, it's largely a waste of time to win them over, okay?

01:07:54.000 They're going to do argument from authority is number one.

01:07:57.000 Anyone ever get an argument from authority?

01:07:58.000 I'm the professor, you're not. 1.00

01:08:00.000 Sit down, shut up, I know more than you. 0.98

01:08:01.000 It's their only tactic they know how to end discussion, okay? 0.98

01:08:04.000 And it's like logical fallacy 101.

01:08:07.000 It's like, you know, actually, the theory of gravity, no, it doesn't exist because I'm a professor, you're not.

01:08:11.000 Like, come on, like, okay, well, that really doesn't make sense.

01:08:15.000 So, first of all, you're gonna become a stronger person the more you speak out.

01:08:19.000 Be prepared to be graded differently.

01:08:22.000 As it comes to the vaccine, I've been very outspoken about this.

01:08:25.000 No one should be forced to get a vaccine against their will.

01:08:27.000 No one should be forced to get a vaccine against their will.

01:08:29.000 And I don't know if Baylor's forcing vaccines or not.

01:08:39.000 Are they?

01:08:40.000 I don't know.

01:08:41.000 In some places, that's disappointing.

01:08:45.000 Huh?

01:08:47.000 The nursing program as well.

01:08:48.000 Yeah.

01:08:48.000 Look, if you guys want, someone asked me a question.

01:08:50.000 If you want to ask me a question about the vaccine, that's not really what you asked me.

01:08:53.000 I'm happy to get into that.

01:08:55.000 Big ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin fan.

01:08:59.000 And now there's like this war on aspirin.

01:09:02.000 It's like really surprising.

01:09:04.000 All right.

01:09:04.000 Well, that's not really what you asked me.

01:09:07.000 I'll take a short detour.

01:09:08.000 It won't be long, I promise y'all.

01:09:09.000 I actually got COVID on my way back from Mexico.

01:09:11.000 So you're naturally vaccinated.

01:09:13.000 Yeah.

01:09:13.000 Yes, I'm bad.

01:09:14.000 Yes.

01:09:15.000 So, but ibromectin and hydrochloroquine, day and night, y'all.

01:09:19.000 Yeah.

01:09:19.000 Anyways, I also had quite a few English professors.

01:09:22.000 I would say we had like gun control, all that, those kind of things back in, I want to say 2014, 2015 when I was taking that English class.

01:09:31.000 And of course, I mean, how do you combat English professors that are like, this isn't the, you know, I'm not grading you on your, I'm not grading you on your opinions, but you know, you know, this, this, and this.

01:09:40.000 That's nonsense.

01:09:41.000 They are grading you on their opinions.

01:09:42.000 I mean, and this is a question.

01:09:44.000 Let me just close with this.

01:09:45.000 I want to get to as many questions as possible with this one question.

01:09:47.000 Let me say this: here's a question I get all the time, and I'm going to give you a truthful, provocative answer you guys can figure out to do with it.

01:09:52.000 I have a disagreement with my friend Ben Shapiro on this.

01:09:55.000 So, Ben says, Hey, write what your professor wants to write, you know, say what your professor wants to say, get the grade, and move on.

01:10:03.000 Right?

01:10:04.000 I don't think grades really matter.

01:10:05.000 I don't.

01:10:06.000 I think character matters.

01:10:07.000 And I think, and you might disagree, Charlie, I have to go to law school, business school, this.

01:10:11.000 Great.

01:10:13.000 Figure it out yourself.

01:10:14.000 I'm not telling you what to do.

01:10:15.000 I mean that.

01:10:16.000 I would rather have a generation of courageous C students than weak and compliant A students that have done whatever they want to do.

01:10:24.000 And now, I did not tell you what to do.

01:10:31.000 You can make a rational argument.

01:10:33.000 Charlie, I'm going to lie now and I'll lie my way through business school, but I'll stop lying once I get hired by Goldman Sachs.

01:10:40.000 Okay, if you got that all figured out, that you can lie now to stop lying later.

01:10:44.000 You're a much stronger person than I am.

01:10:46.000 At least how I'm wired.

01:10:47.000 I have to tell the truth.

01:10:48.000 It's like an impulse.

01:10:49.000 And it doesn't always serve me well, but it actually does because I don't end up caring what people say.

01:10:55.000 But I just disagree with Ben on this, where he says, I went to Harvard, I told them what they wanted to hear, I got the grade, and now I'm able to use their credentials against them.

01:11:03.000 Great.

01:11:03.000 It worked out for him, and he obviously tells the truth, and he does all those sorts of things.

01:11:07.000 My opinion, though, is that we need people to always stand for what is right.

01:11:12.000 Joshua 1:9, be strong and courageous.

01:11:14.000 I've not given you a spirit of fear, regardless of you might get a B, you might get a C.

01:11:18.000 I could tell you that you will be blessed beyond your wildest imaginations when you do what is hard and you pay a penalty for the truth.

01:11:25.000 So pray on that and dwell on that.

01:11:27.000 So thank you.

01:11:32.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:11:34.000 I'm a high school student that's also taking.

01:11:37.000 Thanks for being here.

01:11:38.000 Yeah, I'm also taking college courses so that when I graduate from high school, I'll have my associates as well.

01:11:44.000 But I don't want to pursue any more higher education after that.

01:11:47.000 I'm not very interested in going in the field of trades.

01:11:53.000 I'd much rather be doing something like what you're doing with Turning Point and being in either the ministry field or the political field.

01:11:59.000 What's your advice for someone like me that wants to do something like that but doesn't want to pursue a higher education?

01:12:04.000 It's a great, great question.

01:12:05.000 So find someone who's good at what you want to do and ask to work for them for free.

01:12:10.000 It's that simple.

01:12:11.000 People are like, how do I succeed?

01:12:12.000 Go find people that are good at things and go ask to work for them for free.

01:12:15.000 Fetch coffee, get something, and here's what's going to happen.

01:12:18.000 Someone's going to get sick and go on vacation and you'll get an opportunity that would have taken you 10 years to get.

01:12:22.000 And this takes what?

01:12:24.000 Grit and scrappiness, the two things they don't teach in college, which is you just show up on time.

01:12:29.000 Here's the thing: I tell people all the time: do this for one year, and you will be blessed in a career way.

01:12:33.000 Show up before everyone else and leave before everyone else.

01:12:36.000 Leave after everyone else leaves.

01:12:38.000 You will be blessed.

01:12:39.000 It's that simple.

01:12:40.000 Yeah.

01:12:40.000 Be the hardest working person in the room.

01:12:43.000 Now, I can tell you this: we hire a bunch of people at Turning Point, right?

01:12:49.000 I don't hold it against you.

01:12:50.000 I don't hold it for you if you get a college degree.

01:12:52.000 Like, whatever.

01:12:53.000 Don't really care.

01:12:54.000 I think that college, for most people, is a complete and total waste of time.

01:12:57.000 For most people, not all people, right?

01:12:59.000 I say this: what matters is your scrappiness, your grit.

01:13:02.000 And so, you know, people always say, Well, Charlie, then can I have a job?

01:13:05.000 Like, well played.

01:13:06.000 So I'm going to preempt you on that because you always put me on the spot.

01:13:09.000 So, but find people who do what you want to do, and then just, and then here's what you'll find out: either you want to do it or you don't want to do it, right?

01:13:17.000 And so, I just, I want to have our generation be scrappier in this way.

01:13:21.000 Don't go, you're like, oh, I got to get this internship and all this.

01:13:24.000 Yeah, maybe you do.

01:13:25.000 Or just go find someone who's good at it.

01:13:26.000 You'd be amazed.

01:13:27.000 There's so many people out there that have made it that are waiting to be asked for help from young people.

01:13:32.000 And they're like, Yeah, you know, I don't know where they are.

01:13:34.000 Now, part of it is they should help, you know, actually facilitate that.

01:13:37.000 But I just want to encourage all of you guys, there's so many people out there that are waiting to be mentors.

01:13:41.000 Go find them.

01:13:42.000 Ask for help.

01:13:43.000 When you are young, you will get platforms.

01:13:46.000 You will get advantages.

01:13:48.000 You will get invitations that you will not get when you're 28, 30, or 35.

01:13:52.000 Your ages 18 through 22.

01:13:55.000 There is this window where people will make allowances for you that you will not get the rest of your life.

01:13:59.000 Take advantage of that.

01:14:01.000 You're the college kid with no money that's willing to show up early.

01:14:03.000 It will change your life.

01:14:05.000 Work harder than everyone else.

01:14:06.000 Hope that's helpful.

01:14:06.000 Thank you.

01:14:12.000 Howdy, Kirk.

01:14:13.000 How are we doing?

01:14:14.000 They're doing great.

01:14:15.000 So I really love the speech that you did.

01:14:17.000 You brought up some good, interesting points, but I noticed a common theme between what I've talked about.

01:14:22.000 I'm also a nutrition major, so I hear this too.

01:14:24.000 Not only in my industry, the industry I'm going to work at, but also in your speech, the idea of a double standard.

01:14:31.000 I notice it with the people you talk about.

01:14:33.000 I notice it in my industry with all these gurus that really think they know everything when they took one nutrition class.

01:14:40.000 So my question is to this.

01:14:42.000 How do we go about combating this aspect of there's a double standard going on in our country?

01:14:47.000 We need to do something about this.

01:14:49.000 How do we go about best encroaching the idea that it exists?

01:14:53.000 Yeah, and that's if the left didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.

01:14:58.000 So that's part of the entire problem that we have.

01:15:03.000 I mean, I'll give you a great example of a double standard, okay?

01:15:06.000 Which, again, I want to reiterate, I don't think I said this, but turning point you say, we're educational in nature, cultural in nature.

01:15:11.000 I've done my best to not even mention political parties here tonight.

01:15:13.000 We're here to talk about big ideas, but I will give you an example about this.

01:15:17.000 And John Gruden should not have been fired as the head of the Las Vegas Raiders.

01:15:21.000 Should not have been fired.

01:15:22.000 Okay?

01:15:24.000 Now, you might disagree.

01:15:27.000 Therefore, if you disagree with that, answer me why John Gruden's emails get more examination than Hunter Biden's emails.

01:15:37.000 Explain to me why an NFL coach is investigated and called the worst things you could be called in American society.

01:15:45.000 And Hunter Biden, who shares a bank account with the sitting president, is doing business with the Chinese.

01:15:49.000 I was like, oh, can't talk about those emails.

01:15:52.000 That's kind of the double standard you're talking about, isn't it?

01:15:54.000 Just one of many examples I could possibly give.

01:15:57.000 Sarah Silverman and Jimmy Kimmel all wore blackface five or six years ago, and they get elevated as leftist heroes.

01:16:03.000 Yet John Gruden says private emails, not publicly, that people find to be out of color and that very well could have been jokes and out of context, never given the opportunity for forgiveness, explanation, or reconciliation.

01:16:14.000 Instead, it is absolute cutthroat destruction of his entire career.

01:16:18.000 And here's the thing about, by the way, I'm actually not a John Gruden fan. 1.00

01:16:21.000 I think he's kind of a jerk. 0.99

01:16:22.000 I never liked him. 1.00

01:16:23.000 Seriously, Monday Night Football, always kind of arrogant.

01:16:25.000 Happy to get into that if you guys want. 0.84

01:16:27.000 But I'll defend anyone when they're wronged with this stuff because ask the black athletes that play for him what kind of person he is. 0.73

01:16:36.000 Don't look at some sort of private email.

01:16:38.000 Every person who's ever played for him says he's an all-star.

01:16:42.000 He supports us.

01:16:43.000 He's a great leader.

01:16:45.000 You think they would have a better window into the character of him than some sort of out-of-context email from 10 years ago?

01:16:51.000 So that one actually just kind of fires me up.

01:16:53.000 So how do we stop the double standard?

01:16:55.000 We got to keep on talking about it, but we also have to know this.

01:16:58.000 We will live in a society of double standards.

01:17:00.000 We as conservatives will be held to a different book of rules.

01:17:03.000 They burn down a Wendy's.

01:17:05.000 They're called like racial, what, you know, progressives.

01:17:09.000 People walk into the Capitol and take a selfie.

01:17:11.000 They're called insurrectionists, right?

01:17:12.000 And so that double standard does exist.

01:17:14.000 It's very real.

01:17:16.000 And we just have to, we have to live with it and try to push back where we can.

01:17:19.000 So thank you.

01:17:20.000 Appreciate it.

01:17:21.000 We will take a couple more.

01:17:22.000 We'll finish the lineup.

01:17:23.000 So please come.

01:17:24.000 We'll finish the lineup.

01:17:25.000 Thank you.

01:17:26.000 Oh, gotcha.

01:17:27.000 Hello.

01:17:28.000 Nice to meet you, by the way.

01:17:29.000 I think you've made some solid points.

01:17:31.000 And I have just kind of a little controversial question, but it's interesting.

01:17:37.000 I want to hear what you're saying.

01:17:37.000 It's the place for it.

01:17:39.000 So, I'm a Christian medical humanities student, and the reason I chose that was because I was taught that if I have the opportunity to help my fellow man, I should, you know, as a Christian should.

01:17:51.000 So, as a Christian, how can some conservative people justify not backing health care for people, especially like for veterans, because they do a lot for our country, and sadly they end up homeless and don't get the help they can get from the VA.

01:18:10.000 So, how can we justify not providing affordable health care for everybody?

01:18:15.000 It's a great question.

01:18:16.000 Well, first, I don't know any conservative that doesn't want health care for veterans.

01:18:20.000 So, I'll just challenge you a little bit on that.

01:18:22.000 But let's take the premise.

01:18:23.000 Let's say that I don't want universal health care, right?

01:18:26.000 We don't want universal health care because it'll actually hurt the very same people you care about.

01:18:32.000 And so, let's talk about the veteran example, right?

01:18:34.000 So, the VA is a disaster, it's a mess.

01:18:36.000 The VA receives $100 billion a year.

01:18:38.000 There's waiting lines, the quality of care is dreadful.

01:18:41.000 And I will say we have universal health care for veterans, and it is a disaster. 1.00

01:18:46.000 So, the question is: how do we best help people, right?

01:18:49.000 And so, you or somebody, I don't even know if you believe what you said or just asking the question, so I don't want to put that on you, but that sort of opinion would say, hey, the best way to help people, government assistance, government health care.

01:19:00.000 Now, I believe in a safety net, of course.

01:19:02.000 I don't want the safety net to become a hammock.

01:19:04.000 I don't want it to become a place of comfortability.

01:19:07.000 But I believe the best way to help people when it comes to health care is number one, where's my friend who's the nutritionist?

01:19:12.000 First of all, there you go. 0.95

01:19:13.000 We eat like garbage in this country, okay? 0.93

01:19:16.000 Got to fix the way we eat. 0.99

01:19:17.000 We have a sick care system, not a health care system. 0.98

01:19:19.000 That's number one.

01:19:19.000 Number two, we are run by the tyranny of the hospitals, a private-public partnership of inside-out access, of hospitals that have perverse profit incentives and taking money from the taxpayers.

01:19:29.000 But I will say this: you will not find conservatives not care.

01:19:34.000 And this is an important thing.

01:19:35.000 Just because we don't want something doesn't mean we don't care.

01:19:39.000 It's a very important thing.

01:19:40.000 And so, I would just challenge on one thing, which is this: which is that you might think conservatives are wrong, or maybe people that say that what it is, but don't think they're bad, right?

01:19:55.000 Don't think, like, how could you not want to give health care?

01:19:58.000 When in reality, it's like, hey, we want to have all people taken care of.

01:20:00.000 Best way to take care of people might be through market competition, might be through choice, through improving the health care system, not through a massive bureaucratic, you know, kind of social engineering project.

01:20:12.000 Do you have a quick follow-up question?

01:20:14.000 Okay.

01:20:15.000 So, I do agree with you when you say that we shouldn't enable people because I think that it is good to have a safety net, but we also need to grow and improve ourselves with our own will.

01:20:28.000 But I have met people, and it might just be like people claiming to be conservative, but not really believing in the conservative, like help your neighbor values that truly don't want to give to health care.

01:20:43.000 Because, like, if I have the money, or this is like their words, if I have the money, why am I going to give it to somebody else?

01:20:49.000 Well, yeah, I mean, you won't hear me say that, but I will say this: let's differentiate one thing, which is government helping people and people helping people.

01:20:56.000 The other thing, the other reason I'm against a massive government welfare project is I think it de-incentivizes you from helping another person that needs help.

01:21:04.000 And we see this in Europe.

01:21:05.000 Americans gave $600 billion away to charity last year.

01:21:09.000 We have the highest rates of charitable giving in the planet, except one small island country, one in the Pacific.

01:21:14.000 So, we're like number two in the rates, not just the number.

01:21:17.000 Europe private charity is almost an unknown idea.

01:21:21.000 When I was in Europe, I've been there many times.

01:21:23.000 I explained what Turning Point USA was and kind of how we raise money.

01:21:27.000 And I also explained how we have charitable hospitals, how people give money voluntarily, Red Cross, Salvation Army.

01:21:33.000 And I remember a group of Germans looking at me to say, what do you mean you give money to charity?

01:21:37.000 You see, it's almost an unknown exercise.

01:21:40.000 They're like, no, the government does that.

01:21:42.000 It's the exercise of the state.

01:21:43.000 I think that the larger we've made the government, the more we've given people an excuse not to step up and help people that truly need help.

01:21:50.000 I think we need to empower more neighbors, helping neighbors.

01:21:53.000 Thank you so much for your question and for being here.

01:21:56.000 Thank you.

01:21:57.000 All right, we got four more questions.

01:21:59.000 We're going to run the gauntlet.

01:22:00.000 Hi, thanks for coming tonight.

01:22:02.000 So I was curious if you think that issues like CRT and open borders are enough to carry the Republicans in the 2022 midterms, or do you think that Republicans are going to finally have to get off their butts and actually start campaigning and trying to win on their own issues?

01:22:17.000 So I'll put my political hat on because at turning point, again, we're strictly non-political, which is we have turning point action and turning point USA.

01:22:26.000 It's an important distinction.

01:22:28.000 So yeah, do I think Republicans need to start to get their working boots on?

01:22:32.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:22:33.000 I think Republicans need to start to lead.

01:22:35.000 I think that Republicans need to start to say, hey, here's what we stand for, why we stand for it.

01:22:39.000 We're not just going to win elections and let the country fall apart.

01:22:42.000 And so, look, I think the biggest issues going into next midterms, inflation is going to be a real big problem.

01:22:47.000 The economy is going to fall apart, unfortunately.

01:22:49.000 And we're just beginning to feel the front ends of that.

01:22:51.000 They want to spend another $4.7 trillion.

01:22:53.000 But here's the biggest issue.

01:22:55.000 Republicans will win back power if voters believe they're going to get action and not speeches.

01:23:01.000 People want action.

01:23:03.000 They don't want letters being written.

01:23:04.000 They want things to start happening.

01:23:06.000 And I'll give you an example here in Texas.

01:23:07.000 I did a whole podcast on this.

01:23:09.000 Governor Greg Abbott needs to send the Texas Rangers immediately to the southern border and start to secure the southern border himself.

01:23:17.000 Now, that might be dramatic.

01:23:20.000 People don't know what to do about that.

01:23:21.000 It's one of the actions that needs to get done.

01:23:23.000 I want to get to all the questions.

01:23:24.000 So thank you so much for being here tonight.

01:23:25.000 Thank you.

01:23:30.000 G'day, Charlie.

01:23:32.000 Mate, I'm from around today.

01:23:36.000 I'm clearly not from around here, mate.

01:23:40.000 You're from a lockdown country.

01:23:41.000 Oh, I am.

01:23:42.000 I am.

01:23:43.000 I'm from the most locked down city in the world, actually.

01:23:46.000 And so what I've found traveling across this country is that there's a lot of Americans who are seduced by the ideas that are perpetuated in Australia.

01:23:59.000 Especially young Americans.

01:24:02.000 For any of you who haven't seen what's happening in my country, it's pretty insane.

01:24:08.000 And I think that there's a massive equation between Western nations that we're all the same, especially with young people.

01:24:16.000 And they look or they're sold this concept that look to Europe for the future, look to Australia for the future.

01:24:23.000 So I just wanted to know, what would you say to young Americans about American exceptionalism and where you don't want to head in terms of the future for America?

01:24:35.000 It's a phenomenal question.

01:24:36.000 Let me ask you a question first.

01:24:38.000 Tell us how bad it actually is in Australia.

01:24:40.000 Like, just tell us some examples of what's happening in your country.

01:24:43.000 So I'll try not to go on a lot because, so like, I mean, I have a lot of mates who are really struggling right now.

01:24:50.000 My mum's fled Victoria and my sister, they've left to go to Queensland.

01:24:57.000 Victoria is basically where Melbourne is.

01:24:59.000 It's the second largest city in Australia.

01:25:01.000 And so it's basically the California of Australia.

01:25:05.000 And only like seriously worse because it's got really violent in terms of police cracking down on protests and stuff like that.

01:25:15.000 We don't have any freedom of speech in Australia enshrined in legislation.

01:25:20.000 So, yeah, so it's it's so my mum's really struggled in terms of mentally and stuff like that because it's just yeah and low.

01:25:31.000 And just to add more color to that, mandatory curfews can't go outside a couple miles outside of your home.

01:25:35.000 Those are all real things, right?

01:25:37.000 Okay.

01:25:37.000 All because of very real.

01:25:39.000 It's not, yeah.

01:25:40.000 What you're hearing out of Australia is very, very real.

01:25:43.000 I'm told by people this is not true.

01:25:45.000 And you got the accent to pressure.

01:25:47.000 People being arrested.

01:25:50.000 People being arrested for putting their trash cans out after curfew.

01:25:54.000 Like, you can get onto YouTube and you'll have a bowl on there.

01:25:57.000 You'll just spend hours watching crazy stuff from Australia.

01:26:00.000 So America is supposed to be different.

01:26:03.000 And this is where I talk about American exceptionalism.

01:26:06.000 The Anglosphere has differences, unfortunately.

01:26:09.000 That Australia does not believe in natural rights the way the American Project did.

01:26:14.000 You just gave a great example.

01:26:15.000 They do not have freedom of speech protected.

01:26:17.000 Therefore, in Australia, the guys with the guns get to determine who gets the talk.

01:26:21.000 In America, as we have an assault on freedom of speech, public expression, freedom of assembly, all of a sudden, we're going to start heading in that direction.

01:26:29.000 So what is the big difference between Australia and America?

01:26:32.000 It comes down to our mission statement.

01:26:34.000 It comes down, the mission statement of America is who's the sovereign?

01:26:37.000 The people.

01:26:37.000 Australia, they do not believe that.

01:26:40.000 What else is the difference in America?

01:26:41.000 We believe the states created the federal government.

01:26:43.000 The federal government did not create the states.

01:26:44.000 Australia is a centralized nation.

01:26:47.000 One size fits all.

01:26:48.000 We're going to tell you what to do.

01:26:49.000 Mandatory edict.

01:26:50.000 You do not question it.

01:26:51.000 In America, we have liberty as a core value.

01:26:54.000 We have a trinity in our country.

01:26:57.000 In our country, there's a Christian trinity, Jesus the Son, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit.

01:27:03.000 There's an American Trinity.

01:27:03.000 It's on every coin.

01:27:05.000 You guys should look at it every time you look at a piece of currency before they all go away, which is going to happen very soon, unfortunately.

01:27:10.000 Liberty, in God we trust, and e pluribus unum.

01:27:13.000 It's the American Trinity.

01:27:14.000 Australia believes in none of those things.

01:27:16.000 I'm not accusing Australia.

01:27:18.000 This is not part of their mission statement.

01:27:19.000 Liberty, which means doing what you ought to do, absent government or corporate interference.

01:27:23.000 In God we trust, a transcendent order of a natural rights giver.

01:27:27.000 E pluribus unum, Latin phrase that means out of many one.

01:27:29.000 We are one people and the ruling class is not better than the sovereign.

01:27:33.000 And what is the ramifications of that?

01:27:35.000 Australia, because they were not founded on the same ideas, you know, that kind of history class that you might not take that seriously, the history that's under attack by the critical race theorists, because Australia does not have the same documents, the same mission statement, the same preservation of rights, yeah, when they get 200 COVID cases, they can march to the streets and start to arrest eight-year-olds because they're outside of curfew.

01:27:54.000 And that's not an exaggeration.

01:27:56.000 It's a real thing.

01:27:57.000 So when I say an American exceptionalism, that means a recommitment to the American ideas that allow us even to be here tonight.

01:28:02.000 If we had a gathering like this here in Australia, we would all be arrested for a very, very long time.

01:28:07.000 Am I exaggerating with that?

01:28:09.000 It's a very real thing.

01:28:10.000 I was thinking that earlier.

01:28:10.000 Absolutely.

01:28:11.000 I was like, oh man, if this happened in Melbourne right now, it would be shut down hardcore.

01:28:16.000 We have something special here in this country, everybody.

01:28:20.000 Let's make sure we don't lose it.

01:28:21.000 Thank you for being here.

01:28:21.000 God bless you.

01:28:30.000 The last two.

01:28:31.000 Hello, Mr. Kirk.

01:28:32.000 So first of all, I'd like to say, for any of you who get the reference, let's go, Brandon.

01:28:36.000 Okay.

01:28:37.000 Yes!

01:28:40.000 Now, as a lot of people have realized by now, in times shortly after a political defeat, there's an opportunity for reflection.

01:28:51.000 And I think we saw that with the whole breaking out of the libertarian versus TradCon wing in 2019 after the House loss, and now with the whole issues of questions of family and stuff like you were talking about.

01:29:06.000 And I think a perfect representation of that is the Arizona primary right now.

01:29:11.000 Right now, you have a libertarian guy who's like the Tea Party, who's very popular, the current attorney general.

01:29:17.000 Senate.

01:29:17.000 Senate or governor?

01:29:19.000 Masters versus Bernovich.

01:29:20.000 And I don't want an endorsement or anything, but let's just say hypothetically that Masters were to win that seat.

01:29:28.000 What makes him special is his big thing is we need to make sure that a family can survive on one income, that we need to use government power to create policies that will make that possible for every American.

01:29:41.000 And my question is, since we're on the state right now in the right where the establishment doesn't like using power, what can influencers, people like you, and people like us do to ensure that when there's one person who comes up with policies like that, that they're able to affect all the other establishment, whatever you want to call them, people to actually affect those changes.

01:30:02.000 That's a thoughtful question.

01:30:03.000 It is.

01:30:04.000 Blake's a friend of mine.

01:30:05.000 So is the Attorney General Bernovich.

01:30:06.000 They've both been on my show.

01:30:07.000 We're not going to endorse, and you definitely won't get an endorsement out of me here tonight.

01:30:11.000 What can we do?

01:30:11.000 I will say this.

01:30:12.000 We have to demand more out of our elected officials.

01:30:15.000 We have to say, here's what we want, start doing it.

01:30:17.000 And you made a really profound point, which is why is it that conservatives are terrified of using political power and the other side is enthusiastic about using political power.

01:30:26.000 Now, we don't like using political power.

01:30:28.000 It is not our default choice.

01:30:30.000 But when you start to have companies that are forcing vaccines against people's will, I'm pleased that Greg Abbott signed an executive order saying that no one will be forced to have, take a vaccine against their will.

01:30:41.000 That's just one example, right?

01:30:43.000 And so demand more.

01:30:46.000 Make arguments.

01:30:47.000 Start to say, hey, we want not excuses and we want action.

01:30:50.000 And you know your stuff.

01:30:52.000 Thanks for being here tonight.

01:30:53.000 Appreciate it.

01:30:53.000 All right, last question.

01:30:58.000 Hi, my name is Morgan.

01:31:02.000 I'm studying to enter into the medical field right now.

01:31:05.000 And my topic of question means a lot to me and my future because in finding work and internships, I was wondering if you thought that Biden's vaccine mandate would pass the constitutional review and also why corporations are prematurely enforcing it before it's a law.

01:31:27.000 That is a great question.

01:31:28.000 And I want to say that we get thousands of emails on our podcast.

01:31:35.000 And you guys can always email us privately if you're going through these things.

01:31:38.000 We'll help you the best we can, freedom at charliekirk.com, of nurses that are being fired.

01:31:42.000 And they're like, hey, I've already had COVID.

01:31:44.000 I don't want to take this vaccine.

01:31:46.000 And it is marching forward at a tyrannical pace.

01:31:51.000 It really is.

01:31:52.000 So let's just kind of summarize.

01:31:54.000 Biden has not issued anything of an order.

01:31:57.000 He gave a press release.

01:31:58.000 It's policy by press release.

01:31:59.000 He has said one speech.

01:32:01.000 He said he's going to do it.

01:32:01.000 There's no executive order yet.

01:32:03.000 It could be coming very soon.

01:32:05.000 That's not the case for federal contractors, which could be some of the hospital systems, right?

01:32:10.000 So he's able to mandate it within the federal government.

01:32:12.000 So that could pertain to it.

01:32:13.000 Do I think it's going to apply to constitutional review?

01:32:16.000 No.

01:32:17.000 But you're in Texas and the governor just signed an executive order saying no one can force you to get a vaccine.

01:32:23.000 I don't know if there was a carve-out for healthcare workers or not.

01:32:25.000 There might have been, but it seemed pretty absolute in what I read.

01:32:28.000 And you're going to have to make a decision, and there's no easy choice, because in the healthcare field, there is very little room for discussion about this particular topic.

01:32:40.000 It is vaccine or get out of the industry, right?

01:32:43.000 It's take it, discussion is over.

01:32:45.000 I will say, though, that the remnant of nurses that have still not taken it, they're a rambunctious bunch. 0.96

01:32:50.000 I'll tell you what.

01:32:51.000 They are going to go down with the entire system.

01:32:53.000 They will not allow themselves to be bullied or kind of put into this.

01:32:58.000 I can't give you a definitive answer, but I could tell you this, that if you stand and decide not to take the vaccine, your life will not be over.

01:33:06.000 That you will be blessed in some way because of that, because you are not alone.

01:33:10.000 They want to make you feel as if you're alone.

01:33:12.000 There are young ladies and young men, but more women become nurses than men, here tonight that are going through the same thing.

01:33:19.000 Please go meet each other and have you, like, go, you know, Morgan, what's your name?

01:33:23.000 Go meet Morgan and say, I'm going through the exact same thing.

01:33:25.000 Baylor has a phenomenal kind of nursing trajectory program, as I'm sure you all guys know.

01:33:30.000 And so there's probably a lot of anyone here in nursing here as well here tonight.

01:33:33.000 A couple people.

01:33:34.000 They're afraid of, I guess no one's here.

01:33:36.000 You're the only one.

01:33:37.000 I saw like two hands in the back.

01:33:38.000 That's it.

01:33:39.000 But I saw someone right up there, which is this is a big deal.

01:33:41.000 But let me just kind of finish with this: which is don't violate your deeply held beliefs.

01:33:47.000 That will haunt you the rest of your life.

01:33:48.000 Trust me when I say that.

01:33:50.000 You are not alone.

01:33:50.000 We have your back, Morgan.

01:33:52.000 We have your back in more ways than one.

01:33:54.000 And to go to the previous question, we need to start getting our elected officials to say, no, we're not going to have our young people be forced to get vaccines against their will.

01:34:03.000 Thank you for being here.

01:34:04.000 We have your back.

01:34:05.000 So, in closing, everybody, I want to say thank you again to our Turning Point USA leaders.

01:34:11.000 You guys did amazing Ali and the whole group.

01:34:12.000 You guys are phenomenal.

01:34:14.000 Terrific event.

01:34:15.000 I want to thank Baylor University for approving our Turning Point USA chapter.

01:34:19.000 Maybe we'll be allowed to go on campus next time.

01:34:23.000 Last shameless plug: if you guys are not yet subscribed to our Charlie Kirk show podcast, you guys can do that on your phone.

01:34:28.000 And it really does help us out.

01:34:30.000 We're under threat of cancellation all the time.

01:34:32.000 Final thing.

01:34:33.000 It's going to be up to our generation on how this thing shakes out.

01:34:36.000 Reject being a victim.

01:34:38.000 Don't be cynical about our future and take action to be and exist in the country that's going to be free and one we can be proud of.

01:34:45.000 God bless you guys.

01:34:45.000 Thank you so much for a great event.

01:34:49.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:34:50.000 See you in Phoenix, tpusa.com/slash A-M-F-E-S-T.

01:34:53.000 God bless you guys.

01:34:54.000 Speak to you soon.

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Why Christians Should Reject CRT—LIVE from Baylor University

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