The Charlie Kirk Show - Why Conservatives Must Play Offense for America to Survive

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00:00:08.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:00:19.000 He's an incredible guy.

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00:00:27.000 Turning point USA.

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00:02:13.000 Well, I want to start.

00:02:15.000 I bet a lot of these people know you.

00:02:18.000 Some of them don't.

00:02:19.000 So I want to start at the beginning.

00:02:22.000 Tell us about growing up.

00:02:25.000 You know, your family, your faith.

00:02:28.000 How did you become who you are now?

00:02:30.000 Well, honored to be here.

00:02:32.000 First of all, I want to say before we get started, Kelly, what you're doing is one of the most important efforts in the entire country.

00:02:39.000 I've been more made aware of what you're doing in the last 24 hours than I was previously.

00:02:45.000 And something the left has really perfected is what I call lawfare, like warfare in the law arena, which is overly using the courts to basically get their backwards and malevolent worldview by fiat.

00:02:58.000 And what you're doing to fight for first principles is incredible and so important.

00:03:02.000 So everyone who's supporting Kelly and First Liberty, it's incredible.

00:03:05.000 It really is.

00:03:08.000 I'm born and raised in Chicago, Illinois, or the suburbs of Chicago.

00:03:12.000 Went to public high school, Wheeling High School.

00:03:14.000 I had a pretty traditional upbringing.

00:03:16.000 My father, an architect, my mother, a mental health counselor.

00:03:20.000 I always wanted to go to West Point.

00:03:24.000 Kind of had my whole life designed around going to West Point, I guess you could say.

00:03:28.000 Eagle Scout, football, basketball captain, did good in school and got at other plans for me.

00:03:32.000 It actually was the best thing that never happened to me.

00:03:34.000 Ended up not getting into the United States Military Academy at West Point.

00:03:39.000 And I just took a pause.

00:03:41.000 And my parents said, you're on your own for college.

00:03:43.000 You got to pay your own way through.

00:03:44.000 We're not going to help you at all.

00:03:46.000 And that was a great, great thing they told me because I had to try to, I had to grow up in a hurry.

00:03:52.000 And so I was then had to go through the decision: is it worth me going $70,000 to $80,000 in debt like this for college I really wasn't that passionate about?

00:04:00.000 And so I told my parents, like, hey, I'm going to take a gap year.

00:04:03.000 And they said, what are you going to do?

00:04:05.000 I'm going to try to save the country.

00:04:05.000 I said, I don't know.

00:04:07.000 They laughed.

00:04:08.000 I said, yeah, go do that.

00:04:09.000 Sure.

00:04:10.000 And prior to that, I grew up as a Christian, most important thing in my life.

00:04:15.000 Saved early in my life, around when I was 12 or 13 years old.

00:04:18.000 But that means more as you get older, right?

00:04:19.000 There's a salvation and there's a discipleship.

00:04:21.000 As you get older, really start to grow in your faith.

00:04:24.000 Raised Presbyterian until they decided to basically become not the there's, I always get the PC USA and PCA.

00:04:33.000 I grew up in the liberal one.

00:04:35.000 As soon as they decided to be kind of like a spokesperson for the Democrat National Party, our family left.

00:04:41.000 And not kidding, it's if you know, if you know that tradition of Presbyterianism, as soon as they were spending more time commenting on Rachel Maddow's opening segment and not on the gospel, I was like, there's something wrong here, right?

00:04:56.000 Church should not be hardball with Chris Matthews at organ music.

00:05:03.000 So anyway, really, faith is always very important to me and convinced my parents to let me take this gap year, which was really a gap six months.

00:05:14.000 I felt like we were losing our country back in 2012.

00:05:17.000 I felt like our generation was completely unaware of the type of intergenerational theft that was happening and the kind of decisions that were being made on our behalf or we were making in the ballot box.

00:05:30.000 So I started this organization, Turning Point USA, on June 5th of 2012.

00:05:34.000 No money, no connections, and no idea what I was doing.

00:05:38.000 A lot of energy and some sort of a vision to try to get started.

00:05:42.000 And I just, that's exactly what I did.

00:05:44.000 I got started and I visited all sorts of different Tea Party rallies, Republican groups, talking about how we needed to have a youth conservative organization that would really recapture this country and really re-educate my generation in particular.

00:06:01.000 Never actually thought it would work, but I thought that we would make some sort of an impact.

00:06:05.000 And I didn't even know what success looked like.

00:06:07.000 And for those of you that have been entrepreneurs, you know exactly that feeling.

00:06:10.000 You just get started and you kind of God takes you in a different path.

00:06:13.000 And so fast forward eight years now, it's been actually incredible.

00:06:18.000 It's been one of the most incredibly humbling journeys.

00:06:21.000 Actually, the individual who helped me get started passed away just last week, Bill Montgomery.

00:06:27.000 He was the first person I called in June of 2012.

00:06:31.000 And he believed in me when I was an 18-year-old, when he had no reason to, by the way, when everyone said, go to college, sit in line, stop doing what you're doing, go get a degree.

00:06:39.000 No one's going to take you seriously.

00:06:41.000 I mean, everybody told me that except this guy.

00:06:44.000 And he was an incredible mentor and friend of mine.

00:06:47.000 And so, yeah, look, God has had his hand on our journey.

00:06:50.000 And eight years later, we're on 2,000 high school and college campuses across the country.

00:06:54.000 We have done something that everyone thought was impossible.

00:06:56.000 We've organized hundreds of thousands of young people in the places that, quite honestly, are the most hostile to conservative, reasonable, pro-American, patriotic ideas.

00:07:06.000 We have a great relationship through our political arm with the president.

00:07:09.000 Just last month, we had 3,400 students in Phoenix, Arizona, in the midst of a pandemic, 107 degrees outside, hosting an event for the president of the United States.

00:07:18.000 Absolutely incredible.

00:07:19.000 Not one seat open.

00:07:21.000 Joe Biden couldn't have like 50 people show up, you know, even without a pandemic.

00:07:26.000 And so there's something very special happening.

00:07:28.000 And I've just been blessed to be on this journey.

00:07:31.000 And I really think that we're just getting started.

00:07:37.000 I don't even know, I don't think you know this, but I grabbed a clip, just a minute and a half, just one of your interactions that I want to show because not everybody's seen you in action.

00:07:47.000 Thought.

00:07:47.000 Let's just show one and then we'll talk about that and sort of what you're doing.

00:07:51.000 Israel has done nothing but defended their borders since their legal declaration of existence in 1948.

00:07:59.000 Israel bombed Lebanon and I was there and I was evacuated in 2006.

00:08:03.000 As a defensive measure when Hezbollah, the terrorist, started attacking them from the north.

00:08:08.000 Hezbollah is a recognized international terrorist organization. 0.95

00:08:11.000 Israel should do everything they possibly can to obliterate Hezbollah. 0.95

00:08:14.000 Can I ask you? 0.86

00:08:14.000 Are you pro-Hezbollah? 0.86

00:08:16.000 Can I ask a question? 0.99

00:08:16.000 Sure, happy to. 0.99

00:08:18.000 What formal education might you have?

00:08:19.000 Plenty.

00:08:20.000 I mean, formal education.

00:08:22.000 If you're going to argue, if you're going to argue from authority, that's a logical fallacy.

00:08:26.000 Tell me why I'm wrong.

00:08:27.000 Don't tell me how many degrees you have.

00:08:29.000 Don't ask me to change the conversation.

00:08:31.000 I'm actually, I would argue I'm more informed because I didn't go to college and I've traveled the world and I've met with world leaders and I've read many books.

00:08:38.000 So tell me how am I oppressive?

00:08:43.000 Can you name one example of how I'm oppressive?

00:08:45.000 I can name a lot of examples.

00:08:46.000 Can you name one?

00:08:47.000 Name one example of how I'm oppressive because you just said it.

00:08:49.000 I'm not literally here telling people that they are wrong about you.

00:08:51.000 Well, no, they just don't have facts.

00:08:52.000 Can you tell me one time that I've been wrong about anything I've said?

00:08:54.000 Tell me a time that Israel has launched an offensive war.

00:08:57.000 They didn't. 0.94

00:08:58.000 They're attacking Hezbollah. 0.93

00:08:59.000 It's within their borders.

00:09:02.000 Hezbollah occupies southern Lebanon, which is Iranian-funded, is it not? 0.72

00:09:06.000 Really? 0.71

00:09:06.000 I have no idea. 0.71

00:09:07.000 Thank you for informing me.

00:09:08.000 Anytime.

00:09:08.000 Maybe if you didn't go to college, you would learn more.

00:09:14.000 So that's one of the more civil ones, but there's ones where, I mean, I could have shown when you walked in front of the Kavanaugh protesters.

00:09:21.000 That was.

00:09:22.000 Yeah.

00:09:23.000 So tell people a little bit about what you do, what Turning Point does, the kind of things you walk into, the dangers sometimes.

00:09:32.000 I don't want them to feel your world a little bit.

00:09:34.000 Thank you.

00:09:35.000 So our whole philosophy at Turning Point USA, people say, what is your mission statement?

00:09:39.000 We play offense with a sense of urgency to win America's culture war.

00:09:44.000 Our entire modus operandi is we're tired of managing a declining culture.

00:09:50.000 We're tired of just trying to play defense on the terms of the left.

00:09:53.000 Unlike most conservative organizations and pundits out there that are happy to prognosticate about the best analysis of the decline of America, we're actually not accepting the premise.

00:10:04.000 Like we don't actually accept the premise that this country has to go into inevitable decline.

00:10:08.000 And so because of that, we play offense.

00:10:10.000 And so the entire premise of what we do is that college campuses have become islands of totalitarianism.

00:10:16.000 They are infecting the next generation around the most sinister, malevolent, backwards ideas imaginable.

00:10:22.000 And we are going to go on the college campuses physically, culturally, and in every way you could possibly imagine and organize young conservatives, talk about indistinguishable truth and irrefutable truth.

00:10:33.000 We'll do so civilly.

00:10:34.000 I mean, I put myself out there right there on a college campus, as you saw, that was University of Connecticut.

00:10:39.000 No conservative in their right mind would ever do such a thing as go to stores, Connecticut, set up a coffee table.

00:10:46.000 But what's been amazing, and you kind of saw me, I always wear the jersey of the campus I'm going to.

00:10:51.000 It makes the potential for physical retaliation far less, which I've been through plenty of times.

00:10:57.000 Trust me, I've been stormed out of restaurants and I've been dealing with Antifa for years, and I could tell you all about them.

00:11:02.000 But what really captured there, and that's one of the many clips that has been seen tens of millions of times, my personal content has been seen over 750 million times, Turning Point USA, well over 2 billion times.

00:11:14.000 And that doesn't even count some of the stuff we're actually doing on the ground.

00:11:17.000 But it's really important because the left, they despise what we are doing.

00:11:23.000 Because what you saw right there is actually one of the reasons why America was actually able to exist for so long.

00:11:29.000 Is the collision of ideas in the marketplace of ideas, which college is not, by the way?

00:11:34.000 Just dismiss that out of your entire, get that out of your mind.

00:11:38.000 If you think college is a place where civil discussion exists, and a lot of people say, oh, yeah, my child is going to be exposed to all sorts of different ideas.

00:11:46.000 Yeah, all sorts of different Marxist ideas, absolutely, all sorts of different anti-American ideas.

00:11:51.000 But that individual is just one example.

00:11:53.000 And again, I have probably 2,000 videos like that.

00:11:56.000 I personally travel absent the pandemic, and I'm actually making up for it because we've been traveling nonstop, 330 days a year.

00:12:04.000 I visit over 55 campuses personally.

00:12:06.000 We host over 850 campus events a year.

00:12:09.000 We have over 20,000 students attend our events off campus every single year, which include the largest black leadership, Black Leadership Summit, Hispanic, and Women's Leadership Summit.

00:12:19.000 And look, we have a country that right now is teetering on the brink.

00:12:23.000 It's either going to go a direction that none of us want it to go, or we can reassert first principles.

00:12:28.000 And one thing that we don't talk about is that if you want to see the direction the country is going, just look at where the 16, 17, and 18-year-olds are.

00:12:37.000 And so if you go straight to the campuses, and let's just be honest, that's not good.

00:12:41.000 I mean, we have, as a generation, decided the best decision is to put 6 million of our smartest people into indoctrination factories to learn from 4,000 professors that are all bitter, resentful, and arrogant.

00:12:54.000 And that's a really, that's a recipe for disaster.

00:12:58.000 The way we fix that is to go straight into that place of indoctrination.

00:13:03.000 And the amount of people, Kelly, young people, that say, Charlie, I was a liberal, now I'm a conservative.

00:13:08.000 Charlie, I never heard that before.

00:13:11.000 I've never heard one nice thing said about America in my four years at Boulder, at Colorado State, at University of Texas Austin, at Texas AM.

00:13:21.000 And yes, I know there's a lot of Texans in here.

00:13:23.000 I'm happy to talk about any school in the country because I've visited almost every, you know, every, and I'm aware of a lot of them, that it is widespread.

00:13:31.000 And so we've had a lot of success.

00:13:32.000 We're just getting started.

00:13:34.000 The future of our country really depends on our ability to communicate our values to the next generation that will soon be in charge of this country.

00:13:43.000 And our failure to do that will mean that Alexandria Casio-Cortez is nothing but a preview of the type of country, the leadership of this country of what's to come.

00:13:53.000 You mentioned something there that a lot of people don't know about, which is your effort to focus on colleges that need to be divested.

00:14:01.000 Yes.

00:14:02.000 Tell them about that, about what that is, and maybe is there a place online where they can go look at the colleges or your information?

00:14:08.000 There is.

00:14:09.000 And this has been, I think, mislabeled as probably an overly controversial project.

00:14:13.000 Again, the people labeling that, I get attacked every day, so it really doesn't bother me that much.

00:14:18.000 But look, our viewpoint is this: if you are someone that cares deeply about the future of America and first freedoms and the Constitution, you should not be voluntarily giving over your hard-earned money unrestricted to places where their mission statement is to make sure this civilization no longer exists.

00:14:36.000 That's probably a pretty simple equation.

00:14:39.000 So thank you.

00:14:40.000 Yeah.

00:14:41.000 And so now, I mean, no offense to anyone in this room because I know there's a lot of people that have given big gifts to higher education in this room.

00:14:49.000 So I want to just preface it by saying this is not an attack on people that have done that.

00:14:54.000 Instead, it's an honest observation that the unrestricted gift model, where Harvard is now sitting on $41 billion, which is a bigger endowment than the combined GDP of Hungary, that's probably, they probably don't care what anyone thinks, and they're going to become the most liberal institution they possibly can, right?

00:15:15.000 So our whole idea is how do we get decent Americans, reasonable Americans, business people, to say, I'm no longer going to give these massive seven-figure checks to higher education if what you are producing is bitter, resentful, arrogant, angry people that want to destroy our history and quite honestly hate the very civilization that has given them so much opportunity.

00:15:37.000 If you're creating ungrateful people and not thankful people, we should take a pause and ask why exactly that's happening.

00:15:44.000 And what we have found and discovered through mountains of research is these universities actually depend on the unrestricted gift flow of their alumni.

00:15:53.000 Is one of the main reasons they've been able to have these professors that have nothing but bad ideas given credibility and a platform is because they sit on these massive endowments and they're able to start these new schools of North African lesbian poetry or some ridiculous nonsense that they're teaching your kids. 0.65

00:16:11.000 Or, you know, how to destroy your country now. 0.96

00:16:14.000 I got that.

00:16:14.000 Okay, great.

00:16:15.000 I thought we learned that in high school.

00:16:15.000 Okay.

00:16:17.000 And so we are celebrating donors that divest their dollars from higher education.

00:16:23.000 And so far in just three weeks, we have successfully divested $30 million from over 15 schools across the country and from the biggest schools, including some in Texas, some across Harvard, Yale, University of Southern California.

00:16:37.000 And look, divestment is a tactic, right?

00:16:39.000 So divestment is something that the left has used against us for decades.

00:16:44.000 It's not a tactic I necessarily would choose as my first selection, but it is unbelievably effective.

00:16:50.000 And you would not eat, you would not go to a religious service or to a restaurant if you knew the proceeds were going to Planned Parenthood, right?

00:17:00.000 You wouldn't do that.

00:17:01.000 Then why would you give millions of dollars to a college where the proceeds are creating people that want to make sure Planned Parenthood gets more money?

00:17:09.000 That's a very simple way to look at it.

00:17:11.000 And so, look, there's a lot of reasons why people do it, and I understand it.

00:17:15.000 Just a broader perspective, though, is until we use divestment as a tactic, which the left has, these universities will never reform themselves into places that respect free speech, where I do not have to walk onto a college campus with 15 armed guards, which is the average amount of I cannot go on a college campus without secure armament, something as if I'm ready to launch a coup against a Central American country, right?

00:17:39.000 I mean, I've had helicopter support before, snipers on the rooftop, you know, drone surveillance, you name it, because I have to go to college campus.

00:17:48.000 And my message is very clear.

00:17:49.000 I'm unafraid to say God is real.

00:17:51.000 Jesus is the son of God. 1.00

00:17:53.000 There are only two genders. 1.00

00:17:54.000 America is the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world. 1.00

00:17:57.000 Donald Trump is a great president.

00:17:59.000 We should build a wall.

00:18:00.000 And that our republic is worth saving.

00:18:02.000 And if that's too controversial and you have to go to a safe space and you all of a sudden have to resort to violence, your institution has failed you.

00:18:09.000 And quite honestly, you are not on a path towards, I think, a flourishing or a fulfilling life.

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00:19:38.000 Obviously, there's this cancel culture going on right now of people being fired, being intimidated, being bullied to not express their opinion, which is as anti-American as anything I can think of to not have the exchange of ideas.

00:19:56.000 How do you see that?

00:19:57.000 What do you think the solution is to it?

00:20:01.000 I mean, I think this started on the college campuses.

00:20:03.000 It's exactly right.

00:20:04.000 And so I kind of want to build out this argument more on the importance that what we are doing on the campuses.

00:20:09.000 For years, we viewed campuses in the 60s and 70s, and you remember all the protests.

00:20:15.000 It's not necessarily anything new, but we once viewed campuses as almost a nuclear spill, like Chernobyl, right?

00:20:22.000 So it's bad.

00:20:23.000 We're going to wall it off.

00:20:25.000 You know, go wear a hazmat suit and try to survive and then we'll get a job, right?

00:20:30.000 And so we always knew these places were bad, but we felt that the kids could be unaffected if they put on the right gear metaphorically.

00:20:38.000 And excuse this metaphor because it's not exactly the right time to use it, but it's actually a perfect metaphor.

00:20:43.000 It's more like a virus, honestly.

00:20:45.000 And it infects people and it's incredibly infectious and it doesn't just stay on the campus.

00:20:50.000 And so one of the most eye-opening things for me, and I encourage all of you to look very closely at this, is how incredibly against our country corporate America is.

00:20:59.000 And it's a hard thing for me to admit as a capitalist and as someone that enjoys entrepreneurial stories.

00:21:05.000 But when I see Bank of America commit $1 billion to BLM, I ask myself, what side are you on, Bank of America?

00:21:13.000 When PepsiCo dedicates $400 million to BLM, I ask myself, who are you really representing?

00:21:19.000 When the National Basketball Association goes out of its way to attack our police officers and they won't say one word about the 1 million Muslims in concentration camps and the Chinese Communist Party death camps, I ask myself the question, who are you representing?

00:21:33.000 And so that's been a real eye-opening, honestly, about how, and so you answer about cancel culture.

00:21:38.000 Well, what's happened is these HR departments and these corporate boardrooms are now being overrun by the storming of the Bastille tactics that they perfected on a college campus.

00:21:49.000 And so you take Tufts University in Boston.

00:21:51.000 Anyone familiar with Tufts?

00:21:52.000 It's a very good school academically, incredibly intolerant.

00:21:57.000 I mean, they are experts and specialists in making kids hate Israel and hate America.

00:22:03.000 I've never, probably one of the best institutions. 0.60

00:22:05.000 I think Brown's probably the best.

00:22:06.000 I spoke at Brown, and I had to come in with, again, an entire standing army.

00:22:11.000 So Tufts is really interesting because the Tufts is a feeder system to a lot of the best companies on the planet.

00:22:17.000 It's almost an Ivy League school, right?

00:22:19.000 So five years, four or five years ago, the Tufts radicals, they stormed the president's office, right?

00:22:24.000 And they got all these listed demands.

00:22:25.000 And instead of the president's office saying, get out of my office, I'm going to kick you out of school, he capitulated, of course, and was weak.

00:22:32.000 And if you ever experience infantile behavior, the worst thing you could do is to pander that.

00:22:37.000 I think we've learned that.

00:22:38.000 Any of you that are parents, you know that.

00:22:40.000 You have to have discipline and order and structure and some sort of accountability.

00:22:43.000 Anyway, where did those Tufts kids go?

00:22:46.000 Well, they now staff Bank of America and PepsiCo.

00:22:49.000 And the tactics that they once used to extort their college president, they're now using to extort the CEO of a Fortune 500 company.

00:22:57.000 I mean, the radicalism that we have seen on these campuses has now infected every single portion of civilized society, including our churches, by the way.

00:23:06.000 I could go in at length about how our churches have become infected by just people that care much more about America becoming Marxist than America becoming Christian.

00:23:17.000 And that's a separate point. 0.88

00:23:19.000 But you see the cancel culture, and I call it even worse than that.

00:23:22.000 It's almost like social assassination, where you cannot say if you work at one of the companies in the Dow 30, right?

00:23:31.000 The top 30 companies on the Dow, if you at any of those companies say that you support Donald Trump, you will lose your job.

00:23:37.000 It is that simple.

00:23:39.000 And now, this is corporate America.

00:23:41.000 I mean, not just on college campuses.

00:23:43.000 We are now living in a society of what I really call the most dangerous mixture of fascist authoritarianism we could possibly imagine, culturally, where if you wear a Make America Great Again hat on a certain campus, you will end up in the hospital.

00:23:58.000 It's not a question.

00:23:59.000 And the person who does that to you will probably not be held accountable.

00:24:03.000 And we've had this happen to many students, right?

00:24:05.000 Where the campuses will not arrest them.

00:24:07.000 They will not find the kids.

00:24:08.000 We've had kids knocked out cold on University of California, Berkeley.

00:24:12.000 We've had kids firebombed at Tulane.

00:24:14.000 We've had kids bear sprayed in the face at Park City High School in right near Deer Valley, Utah.

00:24:18.000 Not an over-exaggeration, not an alarmist.

00:24:21.000 And so, yeah, it's a very troubling thing.

00:24:22.000 How do you fight back against it?

00:24:23.000 Well, that's part of the personal role that I play, quite honestly.

00:24:26.000 I say things so that other people can't.

00:24:29.000 I take the arrows for a lot of people that are not allowed to speak out.

00:24:33.000 I get journalists attack me every single day.

00:24:35.000 I'm one of the most targeted people under the age of 35 on the planet for this reason, because I'm not afraid to say all lives matter.

00:24:43.000 I'm not afraid to say that BLM Inc. is actually sowing racial division in our country.

00:24:48.000 I'm not afraid to say we only take a knee to Jesus Christ our Lord, not to some arbitrary cause that corporate America wants us to believe in.

00:24:55.000 And so that's part of the solution.

00:24:56.000 But I mean, look, a recent survey says that 71% of people under the age of 30 say if they speak their mind, they're going to lose their life.

00:25:03.000 That's not our country.

00:25:04.000 In fact, it's actually less in most European countries.

00:25:08.000 In most European countries, they actually have like 30% of people under the age of 30 think if they speak their mind, they'll lose.

00:25:14.000 We have become a very bizarre fashion of Fidel Castro's Cuba with Mao's Red Guard culturally. 0.77

00:25:20.000 We really have.

00:25:21.000 And the only way you fight back against that is with courageous people that are unafraid of the cost and are willing to stand unified with other courageous people and stand up against the tyrants.

00:25:31.000 That's the only way you can fight that.

00:25:33.000 It's not to hope it gets better.

00:25:34.000 It's not that, oh, things are going to go back to the new normal.

00:25:37.000 Or these people like, oh, we just have to wait it out.

00:25:39.000 Things are going to self-correct.

00:25:41.000 There's no evidence.

00:25:42.000 Like people who say that, what kind of evidence are you looking at?

00:25:44.000 Like that things are just always going to go back to the way they were.

00:25:47.000 What historical paradigm are you operating under?

00:25:51.000 Yeah.

00:25:52.000 Lenin takes power in the Soviet Union.

00:25:52.000 Okay.

00:25:54.000 Yeah, they're going to go back to the SARS.

00:25:56.000 Like, okay, that took 80 years and 60 million people being killed.

00:26:01.000 I mean, you can lose civilization really quickly.

00:26:04.000 And we need to recognize that.

00:26:05.000 And so how do you fight back against it?

00:26:07.000 We have to stop supporting the people that do it.

00:26:09.000 And then we also need more people being vocal against it.

00:26:12.000 Yeah, that's great. 0.80

00:26:13.000 I mean, I think the thing that's not talked about a lot is the cancel culture people are cowards.

00:26:20.000 They don't want a discussion.

00:26:21.000 They're scared of a discussion.

00:26:23.000 And so they're bullies.

00:26:24.000 They try to silence people.

00:26:26.000 And the only way to deal with bullies is to stand up to them.

00:26:29.000 I mean, that's the only way you stop it.

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00:27:11.000 You've probably got 2 million followers on Twitter and Facebook.

00:27:16.000 You've got a huge number.

00:27:17.000 I mean, you're very well involved in the social media, and obviously there's a huge war going on censorship-wise there.

00:27:24.000 How do you see that?

00:27:26.000 I mean, you're probably one of the better experts on what's going on there.

00:27:30.000 So I'm a free market capitalist.

00:27:32.000 I am.

00:27:33.000 And I think we should break up the tech companies.

00:27:35.000 Go figure that one out.

00:27:36.000 And so I love the free market because I love my country.

00:27:40.000 I have patriotism, then I love the economy if I have to rank it.

00:27:43.000 I love Jesus Christ above my country, and one informs the other, right?

00:27:47.000 So I love liberty, and you should too, First Liberty.

00:27:51.000 So when all of a sudden people's liberties are starting to get infringed, we should just take a pause.

00:27:55.000 I think that's a fair assessment.

00:27:57.000 One of the reasons why we like limited government is because big government will infringe on people's liberties by definition.

00:28:04.000 What happens when a... company is more powerful than your government.

00:28:08.000 What happens if a company has amassed more power than every other government in the history of the planet?

00:28:13.000 And they won't talk to you.

00:28:15.000 You have no due process rights.

00:28:18.000 What do you do then?

00:28:19.000 What is the proper course of action?

00:28:21.000 So if you reread the Federalist Papers, I always try to go back to the roots of our country.

00:28:24.000 I think that there was such wisdom in that period of time.

00:28:26.000 It was such a deliberate process they went through.

00:28:29.000 The founders were really worried about tyranny.

00:28:32.000 And the biggest tyranny that they could think up was governmental tyranny.

00:28:37.000 So, and understandably, but what if I told you that Google laughs at how unsophisticated our government is?

00:28:45.000 That Google's far more powerful than the Pentagon.

00:28:47.000 Like, it's not even close.

00:28:49.000 Google knows everything about all of you, every one of you.

00:28:52.000 And you're like, well, I don't use Google.

00:28:53.000 Use YouTube.

00:28:54.000 You purchase anything on the internet.

00:28:55.000 You've ever had an email sent from a Gmail account.

00:28:57.000 All that is stored within their files.

00:28:59.000 They know your location.

00:29:00.000 They know your habits.

00:29:00.000 They know how you act, all of it.

00:29:02.000 Okay.

00:29:03.000 You say, well, that's not a big deal.

00:29:05.000 Okay.

00:29:06.000 If you trust a bunch of people that are godless, secular Marxists to have that much power, then maybe you don't believe in limited government.

00:29:11.000 Because that's why we believe in limited government, right?

00:29:13.000 We believe in due process.

00:29:14.000 If Google kicks me off tomorrow on YouTube, I have a successful YouTube channel.

00:29:18.000 What's my due process rights?

00:29:20.000 I can't sue.

00:29:21.000 I could sue the government if they actually shut me up.

00:29:23.000 That's why First Liberty exists.

00:29:24.000 I have no rights with Google.

00:29:26.000 None.

00:29:26.000 Zero.

00:29:27.000 They're a private company, right?

00:29:28.000 So they can do whatever they want.

00:29:29.000 Do you think that 92% of search results are too much?

00:29:32.000 I do.

00:29:33.000 I think that's a monopoly.

00:29:34.000 I think that if you have 92% of anything, you should probably like not have that much.

00:29:38.000 Dr. Robert Epstein, who is a Biden-supporting, formerly Hillary Clinton supporter, testified in front of Congress under oath.

00:29:45.000 And he said, I have been a lifelong studier of the internet and of search engine manipulation.

00:29:52.000 He says that Google manipulated at least 2 million votes in the 2018 midterms and manipulated at least 4 million votes in 2016, and they will manipulate up to 10 million in 2020.

00:30:04.000 How does that happen, you say?

00:30:05.000 I'll give you a great example.

00:30:06.000 Try to type in Breitbart to your Google search tonight and find out if any Breitbart.com link shows up.

00:30:11.000 It doesn't happen.

00:30:12.000 They have deleted Breitbart from the internet.

00:30:14.000 They just decided it should no longer exist.

00:30:16.000 Do you think anyone should have that kind of power?

00:30:18.000 No.

00:30:19.000 The answer is absolutely not.

00:30:20.000 I don't care if you're a private corporation or the government of Venezuela, that is you more.

00:30:24.000 You should not have the power to eliminate ideas.

00:30:27.000 And you say, well, they're a private company.

00:30:28.000 Use another search engine.

00:30:29.000 Let's be a little more realistic.

00:30:30.000 They control 92% of all search results.

00:30:32.000 They control the number one video processing site on the planet called YouTube that gets over 3 billion views a day on their platform.

00:30:39.000 So let's just be realistic about what we're actually dealing with.

00:30:42.000 Not to mention, they're building the fiber network all across our country.

00:30:45.000 They have more medical data than any other private company and soon to be that.

00:30:48.000 They have more drone technology.

00:30:50.000 They have driverless cars and they're just getting started into e-commerce.

00:30:53.000 They also have the number one email processing platform, the number one cloud sharing platform, Google Drive, which all of your kids probably use if they're in public schools.

00:31:01.000 And they have the number one search engine browser, Google Chrome.

00:31:06.000 At some point, you should say, well, we don't know their motives.

00:31:08.000 Actually, we do.

00:31:09.000 We have leaked video from Google right after the 2016 election where they said we are not going to allow Donald Trump to get re-elected.

00:31:17.000 So we know their motives.

00:31:18.000 We know what they believe.

00:31:20.000 And so, by the way, they are staffed by people that all went to these very same universities.

00:31:24.000 It's not like they stopped believing in this stuff as soon as they get this power.

00:31:27.000 And I mean, Lord Acton said this, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

00:31:31.000 Well, Google has that absolute power.

00:31:33.000 And trust me, I don't love the government.

00:31:35.000 I'm a huge government skeptic, but I don't love the government because I love free people and I love liberty.

00:31:41.000 That's why we're all here.

00:31:42.000 And I'm telling you right now, the liberty of millions of people are being violated hourly by this small, this company of small ruling class elites in Silicon Valley that if they have their way in 10 years, this country will be remade in the government of Google's image.

00:31:57.000 So, yeah, I am more aware of this than most people.

00:32:00.000 I tend to not be alarmist.

00:32:02.000 I did not come at that conclusion lightly because I think that we should use government power rarely.

00:32:08.000 But I think that we have the 1890 Sherman Antitrust Act for a reason.

00:32:12.000 I support what the Republican president Teddy Roosevelt did in the 1900s to break up a lot of the monopolies that were controlling some of our industrial capacity.

00:32:21.000 And I think because of that, we actually had a flourishing middle class.

00:32:23.000 I think that's actually a good thing.

00:32:25.000 And I think that we should be unafraid to use that power when it comes to a company that controls 92% of all search results, which is literally the exploration of ideas.

00:32:32.000 And Orwell said it back to George Orwell.

00:32:34.000 He said, if they can get you to stop seeing something and thinking something, that thing will stop existing.

00:32:41.000 I'm not okay with a small company evidently.

00:32:44.000 You mentioned a couple of the president a couple of times.

00:32:52.000 And you become friends with the president.

00:32:55.000 I mean, the president calls you out in the crowd.

00:32:57.000 I mean, you're a 20-something-year-old guy, and the president likes you.

00:33:02.000 You didn't start out that way.

00:33:03.000 I don't think you like the president.

00:33:04.000 Tell the story of how that happened, how you were kind of, I'm not sure this is the guy I would want to get behind.

00:33:09.000 And I think now you've written a book.

00:33:11.000 Yeah, look, I was never anti-Trump or never Trump.

00:33:14.000 I was Trump confused.

00:33:16.000 I think that's probably the right term.

00:33:18.000 I was young.

00:33:19.000 A lot of people are.

00:33:20.000 I was young.

00:33:21.000 I didn't quite get it.

00:33:22.000 That's okay.

00:33:23.000 I think we should say that.

00:33:24.000 I wasn't like a pathological opposition person.

00:33:27.000 I was a Scott Walker guy.

00:33:28.000 I knew the Walker family growing up in the Midwest of our country.

00:33:31.000 And I helped him with his recall election.

00:33:33.000 I think Scott Walker was a phenomenal governor of Wisconsin.

00:33:36.000 Then I became a cruise guy, three-stool conservative.

00:33:38.000 That's who I am.

00:33:40.000 And I was drawn very, I'll never forget, you know, I really didn't quite get the Trump movement or the Trump thing.

00:33:47.000 I just call it the Trump thing.

00:33:48.000 It's a total understatement.

00:33:50.000 Until kind of the end of the cruise Trump out back and forth, where I remember a friend of mine who was completely uninvolved in politics, all of a sudden became the biggest Trump supporter.

00:34:02.000 I'm like, what is he saying that communicates to?

00:34:05.000 He said, Washington, D.C. could not care less about me.

00:34:09.000 And there's finally someone who's going to go there and do something different.

00:34:13.000 I was like, wow, that's interesting.

00:34:14.000 So Trump came the nominee, and it wasn't even a question.

00:34:17.000 I got all in behind him.

00:34:18.000 I said, we have to defeat Hillary.

00:34:20.000 And I still didn't quite understand the movement, to be honest.

00:34:22.000 I didn't.

00:34:23.000 And I was born and bred in doctrinaire, Washington, D.C.-produced, somewhat libertarian economics, to be honest, right?

00:34:32.000 Where if you could not recite the 15 chapters of Free to Choose by Milton Friedman, you were like a heretic, okay?

00:34:39.000 That's basically the type of libertarian circles that I came up with, right?

00:34:42.000 If you didn't know Ludu von Mises or Murray Rothbard, and I think they're smart guys, that's fine.

00:34:46.000 But all of a sudden, you were like, no, you can't be in politics.

00:34:48.000 And so I was like, come on, this is like, what is this guy?

00:34:51.000 You know, I couldn't quite understand it.

00:34:52.000 So he gets the nomination.

00:34:53.000 I speak at the convention.

00:34:54.000 I was very positive.

00:34:56.000 And then I met Donald Trump Jr.

00:34:58.000 And I felt really moved.

00:34:59.000 I said, we have to do something to get the president elected.

00:35:02.000 And I volunteered my time.

00:35:04.000 I went to Don Jr. and I said, Don, I want to help.

00:35:06.000 I want to help run the youth operation.

00:35:08.000 I'm willing to take a leave from Turning Point USA to go help run the youth operation of the 2016 Trump campaign.

00:35:14.000 And he said, sure, come with me on this day.

00:35:17.000 It was like in two days.

00:35:18.000 And I started traveling with Don.

00:35:19.000 Yes, it was that easy.

00:35:20.000 There was no hiring process.

00:35:21.000 There was no infrastructure.

00:35:23.000 People say we colluded.

00:35:24.000 Like we were getting Cleveland and Cincinnati screwed up.

00:35:26.000 Okay.

00:35:27.000 So it's like collusion would not, we couldn't order a cheeseburger, let alone collude to the foreign government.

00:35:32.000 And so I traveled the country and then I really started to understand.

00:35:37.000 I started to go with Don to Michigan and Wisconsin, Ohio.

00:35:41.000 And I spent time privately with people that said, we have more people in opioid clinics than employed in our county.

00:35:49.000 And I was like, what? 0.94

00:35:51.000 I was like, I was told everything's going great because we shipped all our jobs to China. 0.96

00:35:54.000 And seriously, that's what they teach you.

00:35:57.000 When you're in early stage of Republican politics, they're like, everything's great because the GDP is going up.

00:36:03.000 And I love GDP, trust me, but I think that we actually, if we're losing the soul of a country, we should take pause.

00:36:07.000 And I think that we actually weren't looking at a full picture of our country.

00:36:11.000 And they were saying Donald Trump's the only person to talk about bringing dignity back to this part of the country.

00:36:15.000 I'm like, really?

00:36:16.000 And I started to totally get it.

00:36:17.000 I went from kind of a, you know, cruise guy that was supporting Trump to all of a sudden, wow, okay.

00:36:23.000 To pastors that were like, my church is going to go under because there's no one to ever tithe anymore because everything is shut down and the fabric of Youngstown, Ohio is gone.

00:36:33.000 So that is really something.

00:36:35.000 So anyway, point is traveled the country.

00:36:37.000 We did a lot of fun things with Don.

00:36:39.000 We hosted youth events in places where it's supposed to be Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania with my friend Gentry Beach and Tommy Hicks.

00:36:44.000 We did some crazy and wild things and got the, the president won in a surprise fashion.

00:36:49.000 And I became very close with him and the family.

00:36:52.000 And in a lot of different ways, I've understood kind of what this movement represents.

00:36:56.000 I've probably talked to more grassroots voters than most people ever will, traveled the country, understood different perspectives.

00:37:02.000 And to kind of put it all in one piece, it's this guy is a vessel for decent America that quite honestly has been taken advantage, taken advantage of by a bipartisan group of cartel elites for a couple decades.

00:37:18.000 That we have been told the decisions that were being made were, of course, sit down and shut up and do not question them.

00:37:23.000 It's a good thing that China is beating us in trade. 0.50

00:37:26.000 It's a good thing that we're in the World Trade Organization. 0.99

00:37:28.000 It's a good thing that we keep on invading countries halfway across the world.

00:37:31.000 And Donald Trump challenged that.

00:37:32.000 Donald Trump allowed us to question the elites in both parties for the first time in a long time.

00:37:37.000 And not only that, he actually did what he said he was going to do, which was so miraculous, is that he had a list of judges.

00:37:42.000 He actually stuck to it.

00:37:43.000 Kavanaugh and Gorsuch have ruled correctly on all these religious freedoms challenges, except one.

00:37:49.000 I think Gorsuch ruled incorrectly on the LGBT one, if I'm not mistaken.

00:37:53.000 But Roberts has been a write-off.

00:37:55.000 But President Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem.

00:37:59.000 He recognized the Golan Heights.

00:38:00.000 He canceled the Iran deal, most pro-life president in American history. 0.86

00:38:04.000 I understand it's very perplexing and puzzling for Christians out there because they say, wait a second, what?

00:38:07.000 You're trying to tell me that the three times married, twice divorced cover the Playboy magazine, Billy Bush taped guys, the most pro-life president in American history?

00:38:14.000 I'm like, yes, get used to it.

00:38:16.000 Because God uses people in mysterious ways.

00:38:18.000 Like, that's exactly right.

00:38:19.000 So the guy that said that two Corinthians walk into a bar when he was citing a Bible verse, seriously, that's the guy that's going to come on a white horse and put on 200 circuit court judges to make it possible for Kelly to go defy, to go defend religious liberty?

00:38:33.000 Yes, that's right.

00:38:35.000 Because God used Samson, God used David, God used Cyrus, and God is using a billionaire from New York who came down on a golden escalator who's willing to be prayed over to have a Christian vice president who says he loves the evangelical community, that is open to the word of God, that is willing to fight for it, which is nice and refreshing, not just allowed to be a doorstop for every time the left wants to do something to you.

00:38:54.000 You're like, well, I guess we have to capitulate to that one, who stood by Brett Kavanaugh when he was wrongly accused of all those things.

00:39:00.000 Someone who's been the greatest friend of faith of any president in my lifetime.

00:39:03.000 I think that's someone who's worthy of praise, re-election, and we have to get fully behind his effort for another four years of our country.

00:39:11.000 And I only touched on the surface of some of his accomplishments.

00:39:20.000 I think one of the things probably everybody wants to know is you're working hard for the future of the youth of this country.

00:39:30.000 How do you see the future?

00:39:32.000 Are you hopeful?

00:39:33.000 Are you making progress?

00:39:35.000 You know, how do you analyze how you're doing and how you see the future there?

00:39:39.000 So it's a great question.

00:39:41.000 And I get this a lot.

00:39:42.000 People say, Charlie, are you optimistic or pessimistic?

00:39:45.000 And I have a policy to actually answer things honestly.

00:39:49.000 So unlike most people in the work that I do where they just tell you what you want to hear.

00:39:54.000 But before I answer the question, I always make sure that when people ask it, they're not asking it for an excuse not to fight anymore.

00:40:04.000 And I think that some people want me to say that I'm pessimistic so they can say, okay, so I can stop fighting.

00:40:09.000 I can go back to my life and retreat to the hills.

00:40:12.000 No, no matter, it's actually irrelevant whether you're optimistic or pessimistic for how hard you should fight.

00:40:19.000 You think that the people storming the beach at D-Day were optimistic about their chances that day?

00:40:23.000 I don't think so.

00:40:24.000 But they did it anyway because it was the moral thing to do, to go defeat a great tyranny.

00:40:27.000 So here's the honest answer.

00:40:29.000 I'm very optimistic about certain things.

00:40:31.000 I'm incredibly worried about a couple of things.

00:40:33.000 We'll start with the worry, then I'll get to the optimism.

00:40:35.000 How about that?

00:40:36.000 I'm incredibly worried about, first and foremost, I think that we're actually coming up against some very serious economic headwinds that no one wants to talk about.

00:40:45.000 In conservative circles, this is one of my biggest critiques of the Senate Republicans and the House Republicans.

00:40:51.000 They refuse to have a conversation that a portion of America, specifically recent college graduates under the age of 35, are actually not doing as well as their parents economically.

00:41:01.000 It is a hard conversation to have, but it is brutally true. 0.75

00:41:06.000 When you do not have, when 29, 30, and 31-year-olds, after five years post-college, their net worth is negative $30,000, and they can't buy a car, let alone take a girl out on a date, let alone buy an apartment, don't be surprised when they start smashing your cities.

00:41:25.000 Don't be surprised when all of a sudden all those bad ideas that they were taught five years ago start actually turning into real action.

00:41:33.000 So it's a mixture, of course, the cultural indoctrination, but it's also a very serious economic reality that we just, quite honestly, we've just said, well, the GDP is going up, unemployment is low, everything is great.

00:41:44.000 That's just not true.

00:41:45.000 It just isn't.

00:41:46.000 There's entire parts of the American population, and they were getting better under the Trump economy if we could have sustained it, but we decided to lock down our country, which hurt middle-income earners.

00:41:57.000 And I understand there were some reasons for it.

00:41:58.000 I'm not saying it's just truth.

00:42:00.000 That middle-income earners, especially young people, we are on the precipice of something that is very dangerous.

00:42:07.000 And I'm not talking about just the cultural indoctrination. 0.67

00:42:10.000 You ask anyone that lived through the Cuban Revolution, go read Dolsieski, who wrote the Gulag Archipelago, which was the number one book that brought down the Soviet Union.

00:42:20.000 You read anyone that has lived through a Marxist revolution in the 20th century. 0.69

00:42:24.000 It is disgruntled 25 and 26-year-olds that you have to watch out for.

00:42:30.000 They're the ones that can bring down your civilization.

00:42:32.000 Do not take this lightly.

00:42:33.000 So if all of a sudden they don't believe that the system works for them, take that very seriously. 0.53

00:42:39.000 And some of it's complete rubbish, by the way.

00:42:41.000 Some of them have to get their act together. 0.94

00:42:42.000 They got to work harder and all that.

00:42:44.000 Some of them, they actually have been convinced, go borrow $80,000 to go study North American migratory bird studies and go move to Seattle and your life is going to improve.

00:42:54.000 They go become a barista where 40% of recent college graduates, according to the New York Federal Reserve, 40% of recent college graduates are in jobs that don't require a college degree.

00:43:04.000 So they have all this debt and they're not getting anything for it.

00:43:06.000 Nothing.

00:43:07.000 According to the federal government, which is the number one holder of student loan debt, most students are not even getting close to paying the principal of their student loan debt.

00:43:14.000 They barely can even service the debt.

00:43:15.000 They're barely even touching the interest.

00:43:17.000 The average age of someone that is debt-free is 59 years old.

00:43:20.000 It takes them that long to pay it off.

00:43:21.000 That doesn't count medical debt, car debt, mortgage debt.

00:43:24.000 So we have leveraged an entire generation, not to mention the national debt and the hyperinflation that's probably going to happen because we've decided creating $5 trillion out of thin air is a good idea, which I completely morally and economically oppose, what Congress is doing to continue to create money out of thin air.

00:43:38.000 It's going to hurt young people the most.

00:43:39.000 It just will.

00:43:40.000 And so that's actually what worries me the most.

00:43:42.000 And in a very sinister way, I kind of understand why they're pushing weed on our society so much.

00:43:47.000 Like, of course, they want everyone to do marijuana.

00:43:49.000 They're about to revolt against you.

00:43:51.000 Of course, you want them to be on marijuana all the time.

00:43:53.000 Like, this is you, yes, it makes actually, I think it's reprehensible to legalize it, but it makes perfect sense why the ruling class wants everyone to be on weed.

00:44:02.000 Like, it's a lot easier to control them.

00:44:04.000 Like, it's a lot less likely they're going to burn down everything.

00:44:08.000 And I take that, I actually say that half kiddingly.

00:44:11.000 And so I'm really worried about that because now all of a sudden, when I talk to young people, 31 and 32-year-olds, especially in these urban clusters, they don't think the system works for them.

00:44:21.000 When you guys were seven years out of college, you probably thought the system was generally working if you kept working hard.

00:44:27.000 So that's something that's an alarm bell that we got to fix.

00:44:30.000 We got to do it quickly.

00:44:31.000 I have some ideas to do that.

00:44:33.000 What am I optimistic about?

00:44:35.000 I'm optimistic about a couple of things.

00:44:37.000 Number one, we have truth on our side.

00:44:39.000 Let them control everything.

00:44:40.000 They control the institutions. 0.92

00:44:41.000 They control the tech companies. 0.50

00:44:42.000 They control the mega corporations. 0.95

00:44:44.000 They control this.

00:44:45.000 We do have truth.

00:44:46.000 And one sentence of truth can defeat a lifetime of lies.

00:44:50.000 One sentence of truth.

00:44:50.000 I've seen it happen.

00:44:52.000 It is like revival style, Billy Graham, unbelievable.

00:44:55.000 One sentence of talking about irrefutable truth with conviction can get someone completely converted.

00:45:00.000 I'm also optimistic that the furthest extension of a left-wing worldview is actually really miserable people.

00:45:07.000 And we are seeing records amount of people that are coming towards us looking for how am I supposed to live my life?

00:45:13.000 I've been told that I should indulge myself with every sort of substance, no moral code, and God doesn't exist.

00:45:19.000 I'm a really unhappy person.

00:45:20.000 I'm like, it's funny that actually worked that way.

00:45:22.000 Okay, there's a reason why this worked for like 2,000 years because God gave us these laws because he actually loved us, not because he wanted to be the fun police, right?

00:45:30.000 Because he wanted you to be able to live peaceable and quiet lives, as Paul said in 1 Timothy.

00:45:35.000 These laws are there for a reason, so you can actually survive as a species.

00:45:39.000 And so I'm actually optimistic about it because if you have the amount of it's almost religious, is what the left has become.

00:45:46.000 They've almost created a religion out of their core beliefs that you're going to see in some ways an opening.

00:45:50.000 So I'm very optimistic about it.

00:45:52.000 But if I were to say something I'm worried about, I mean, we are on pace to have 600,000 less babies next year than this year.

00:45:58.000 We are seeing a population collapse, the likes of which we've never seen.

00:46:01.000 It was in Bloomberg the other day, and I'm doing the whole podcast on it tomorrow.

00:46:05.000 This is one of the idea how unbelievably dishonest our activist media is.

00:46:10.000 Did you know that we are on pace to have 600,000 less children?

00:46:13.000 That's an unbelievable, that should be like the front page of every newspaper.

00:46:17.000 That's a population collapse that none of us are prepared for.

00:46:20.000 Now, you might say, why is that?

00:46:22.000 Well, number one, your young men are not dating, let alone marrying anymore, because you've been told, we've been telling our young men they're the worst things on the planet since they were five years old and that they're guilty on two brim and innocent and sit down and shut up. 0.63

00:46:33.000 And okay, well, then they become basically feminized men and they have no direction. 0.66

00:46:38.000 Number two, they have no resources to be able to marry. 0.53

00:46:40.000 Number three, a lot of young people do not want to bring children into this world because they see the world around them burning and they're like, why do I want to continue to bring people into this awful existence?

00:46:48.000 Because they're so nihilistic.

00:46:50.000 And number four is that we, quite honestly, are not making it easy to build a family.

00:46:56.000 In 1985, and I don't want to go too far in the time, but in 1985, you could support a family of four with 35 weeks of work.

00:47:05.000 35 weeks of work.

00:47:06.000 Now, in order to support a family of four, it takes 54 weeks of work.

00:47:10.000 So, what does that mean? 1.00

00:47:12.000 The women have to go into the workforce. 1.00

00:47:14.000 Now, I'm not against that, but it makes it impossible to have four kids anymore. 0.98

00:47:18.000 You just can't do it unless you're in the ruling class and you have savings and you have intergenerational wealth, especially when you're talking about cost of healthcare, student loan, all this sort of intergenerational.

00:47:29.000 And boy, I mean, if I was a socialist, I couldn't have designed a better set of economic circumstances for that.

00:47:34.000 But here's the opening: is that if we are able to win this election and if what we are doing continues to work, I think we can actually see a revival the likes of which the left is not anticipating, where people are going to be saying, what does it mean to live a meaningful life?

00:47:49.000 And my answer actually might be kind of boring on the surface, but they've never heard this.

00:47:54.000 You want to hear it?

00:47:55.000 Stop doing drugs and stop drinking.

00:47:58.000 Be loyal to a singular human being.

00:48:00.000 Go find a job.

00:48:02.000 Tell the truth and at the very least don't lie.

00:48:05.000 And do that for a decade and tell me if you're fulfilled or not.

00:48:08.000 They've never heard that.

00:48:09.000 They've heard the opposite.

00:48:10.000 They've heard, destroy everything around you.

00:48:12.000 Everything's a mistake.

00:48:12.000 You live in an oppressive place and you're the most important thing.

00:48:15.000 You are your own God. 0.98

00:48:15.000 Well, that's where you get miserable people. 0.98

00:48:17.000 So I'm actually optimistic that the pendulum back from that is actually going to create an opening for us to be able.

00:48:21.000 I think there's a revival happening that's about to happen.

00:48:24.000 I really do.

00:48:24.000 Call me, you know, brutally bullish or whatever.

00:48:27.000 I actually think we're going to see a third American, third or fourth. 0.81

00:48:30.000 Were we at this with you, the third?

00:48:31.000 It depends if you count Billy Graham's revival as one.

00:48:33.000 I actually think we're about to see more people come to Christ than any other time per percentage in American history.

00:48:38.000 I really do.

00:48:43.000 Last question, because we could go on all night, but why do you see?

00:48:48.000 I mean, we're talking about religious liberty.

00:48:50.000 What do you see as the future for religious liberty?

00:48:53.000 I know you've been visiting.

00:48:54.000 You were just with Jack Hibbs in California.

00:48:57.000 You're talking with pastors.

00:48:58.000 I mean, how do you see the future for religious liberty?

00:49:02.000 Yeah, how much time you got?

00:49:03.000 My goodness.

00:49:04.000 By the way, this conversation will be rebroadcast tomorrow morning on my podcast.

00:49:07.000 Kelly was nice enough to allow this conversation.

00:49:09.000 I only did one podcast today.

00:49:11.000 And so this is me doing my podcast.

00:49:11.000 I do two a day.

00:49:13.000 So thank you for being a live audience. 0.96

00:49:16.000 Look, there's a crisis happening in Christianity, the likes of which no one wants to talk about.

00:49:22.000 There are some amazing pastors out there.

00:49:23.000 I say them in every speech.

00:49:24.000 Jack Hibbs, God bless John MacArthur for opening up his church.

00:49:28.000 He might get arrested, but God bless him for that.

00:49:29.000 Pastor Rob McCoy from Thousand Oaks, who's my pastor who never closed his church, and a couple others that are very courageous.

00:49:36.000 Jerry Falwell Jr., who's not a pastor, but he runs a Liberty University, and he never closed his campus.

00:49:41.000 And they had zero cases of COVID-19.

00:49:42.000 God honored that bold decision.

00:49:44.000 And I appreciate him for that.

00:49:46.000 But beyond that, there's a crisis in Christianity where we saw more Christian churches get more involved in BLM than they ever did for the fight for life, where most of the funding came from Christian woke celebrity pastors that were mobilizing their congregation around a lie, which is that we're a bitter racist country.

00:50:07.000 We're actually systemically unracist and we're systemically decent.

00:50:11.000 So they mobilize their congregation in the streets to go protest an institutional lie.

00:50:16.000 So that was really incredibly disheartening.

00:50:19.000 I see more pastors speaking out, and I think they need to.

00:50:22.000 A lot of pastors say a couple things, that I shouldn't get involved in politics.

00:50:25.000 Outrageous statement.

00:50:26.000 Number two, I can't defy authority because of Romans 13.

00:50:30.000 Complete and total misinterpretation of Romans 13.

00:50:33.000 We are the sovereign.

00:50:34.000 It says we the people in our documents.

00:50:36.000 We don't have a Nero.

00:50:37.000 We don't have a king.

00:50:39.000 So therefore, we, the people, actually determine which laws are just and are not just.

00:50:43.000 And if there's an immoral law, you have absolutely a biblical and theological, not just right, but prerogative to defy that law, especially the misapplication of the law when you allow indulgences like casinos and marijuana shops to remain open, and we can't go to church on Easter Sunday.

00:50:57.000 And the fact the church was okay with this, not all, but too many were far okay with this.

00:51:01.000 And that very much troubles me.

00:51:03.000 So religious liberty, I think it's really interesting.

00:51:05.000 I think it begs the question, what is religion?

00:51:07.000 And we haven't had this conversation in a long time in our country.

00:51:09.000 And Kelly, you might not agree with me on this, but not because it's not that far.

00:51:14.000 It might just be a semantical disagreement.

00:51:16.000 But I actually think that atheism is a religion.

00:51:18.000 And this is a hotly contested debate amongst certain circles.

00:51:22.000 I think that atheism is the fastest growing religion in America.

00:51:25.000 That I see more people proselytizing and evangelizing to believe in nothing than believing in Christ.

00:51:31.000 That the boldness of the atheists and the humanists to get in the courts, if it wasn't for Kelly, is incredible.

00:51:36.000 The amount of money they spend to make sure that God doesn't exist, they do it with religious fervor.

00:51:40.000 They've agreed upon theology, nothing.

00:51:42.000 They've agreed upon funding mechanisms.

00:51:45.000 For all intents and purposes, they are religion, right?

00:51:47.000 And so what's really interesting is that they don't believe in separation of church and state.

00:51:52.000 They don't.

00:51:53.000 They believe in the abolition of the church and only the state.

00:51:56.000 So we've got to stop giving them even that much rope.

00:51:59.000 Because they start like, oh, yeah, the separation of church and state.

00:52:01.000 First of all, never in the Constitution, written a singular letter by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Convention.

00:52:07.000 Association.

00:52:07.000 Is that right?

00:52:08.000 Association.

00:52:09.000 It's close.

00:52:10.000 Close.

00:52:10.000 I'll get there in a couple decades.

00:52:12.000 We get that history right.

00:52:14.000 It's a miss, and it's nowhere in our document.

00:52:18.000 And so the future of religious liberty really lies in people like Kelly and First Liberty's capacity to fight.

00:52:25.000 I mean, what Kelly's, what First Liberty is able to do with the budget they have versus the ACLU, which raised 50%, their budget plus 50% in 24 hours post-Trump's inauguration.

00:52:37.000 Is that fair to say?

00:52:38.000 Is incredible.

00:52:39.000 And look, there is a very determined, diabolical, pathological campaign where they know this.

00:52:46.000 They have studied the playbook of Stalin and Lenin and Castro and Mao.

00:52:50.000 And the one thing they all had in common is you got to shut up the church.

00:52:53.000 You have to.

00:52:54.000 In order to get the power grab that they desire, the church has to go.

00:52:58.000 It's got to be abolished.

00:52:59.000 How do you do that?

00:53:00.000 Tie it up in the courts, you demonize it, and you infiltrate it. 0.90

00:53:02.000 Well, the infiltration has happened through once Christian institutions that call themselves Wheaton College and Calvin College and all that. 0.78

00:53:09.000 I mean, you talk about the most leftist universities in the college, in the country. 0.68

00:53:13.000 Oh my gosh, go to these theological seminaries that call themselves Christian seminaries, and they are the ones that are driving this.

00:53:20.000 So they are infiltrating churches all across the country.

00:53:20.000 Like you wouldn't believe.

00:53:23.000 Then they also intimidate us to have us not fight.

00:53:25.000 And finally, they do a full frontal attack to try to make it illegal for us to practice our faith.

00:53:31.000 If they had a button right here, this is the biggest difference between us and them.

00:53:35.000 They had a button to shut down all the churches, they would press it.

00:53:39.000 If we had a button to shut up all the atheists, we would not push it. 0.95

00:53:43.000 The very big difference. 1.00

00:53:45.000 We look at the atheists as an opportunity. 1.00

00:53:48.000 They look at us as an obstacle. 1.00

00:53:50.000 It's a very important distinction.

00:53:52.000 See, we look at it as an atheist like, wow, that person could one day be in heaven with me. 0.51

00:53:56.000 They look at us and say, they're getting in the way of my power grab. 0.77

00:54:00.000 Whoa.

00:54:01.000 That is not an equal moral playing ground.

00:54:03.000 We have to be more clear about how we distinguish and we categorize that.

00:54:08.000 So look, the future of religious liberty is to be determined, actually.

00:54:12.000 I'm incredibly optimistic about fighters.

00:54:15.000 I think we don't have enough fighters right now.

00:54:17.000 We don't.

00:54:17.000 Kelly's one of them, and so is First Liberty.

00:54:19.000 Would have been really easy for you to kind of just do nothing during all of this, because that's what most people did in this kind of space.

00:54:25.000 Or they just filed every lawsuit under the sun recklessly, which actually set us back the different ways.

00:54:31.000 Don't even get me started on that.

00:54:32.000 But yeah, look, we have to fight.

00:54:35.000 And that's one of the things that we as Christians have to recognize is the defense of the faith is so necessary.

00:54:40.000 Christianity does not call us to be pacifists.

00:54:42.000 That is one of the main lies ever.

00:54:44.000 We have to be fervent in our defense of whatsoever is true, as Paul tells us in Philippians.

00:54:50.000 Whatsoever is loving.

00:54:52.000 Whatsoever is the five-year-old in Orlando that's trying to pray to our Creator that's being shut down by a tyrant.

00:54:59.000 That is evil.

00:54:59.000 That is immoral.

00:55:00.000 And that's why we have a court system. 0.99

00:55:02.000 And so here's my final point, my optimistic point to kind of close it, all of this, is that the left, they're a bunch of cowards. 0.98

00:55:08.000 I deal with these people every day. 0.97

00:55:09.000 I have to walk around with armed guards.

00:55:11.000 I wish I didn't.

00:55:11.000 I've received death threats.

00:55:13.000 FBI, you name it.

00:55:14.000 I've dealt with it all.

00:55:14.000 Okay?

00:55:15.000 So, what and I'm not saying that as a victim, not saying feel sorry for me.

00:55:18.000 I embrace it.

00:55:19.000 It's part of the fight.

00:55:20.000 I know what I signed up for, and I know it's coming.

00:55:22.000 They're only going to try to ruin me more.

00:55:25.000 Thankfully, I actually know that, so I can process it. 0.99

00:55:29.000 These people are the most miserable human beings you could deal with. 0.91

00:55:33.000 They truly do need Jesus. 0.76

00:55:35.000 I mean that in the most clear sense I could possibly need salvation, they need ultimate truth.

00:55:40.000 However, when they are confronted, they scatter.

00:55:44.000 They are not prepared for an active, vibrant, faith-centered community that says you're not going to give it no more, no more, not one more inch.

00:55:55.000 I actually think that there can be a counter to this, the likes of which they're not prepared for, that can put them into ideological and the cultural minority for the next couple decades.

00:56:05.000 All we have to do is activate.

00:56:07.000 That's all we have to do.

00:56:08.000 And so, people say, well, what can I do to get involved?

00:56:10.000 A couple things.

00:56:12.000 Everything you do now has to be political.

00:56:14.000 I know that's a really hard thing to say.

00:56:16.000 The left has turned everything into 24-7, 365 politics, where they shop, where they buy, what they do, what they say.

00:56:22.000 Guess what?

00:56:22.000 You have to be the same.

00:56:23.000 I don't like it.

00:56:24.000 It's the way it has to be.

00:56:24.000 You don't like it.

00:56:26.000 Okay?

00:56:26.000 So no more supporting mega corporations.

00:56:29.000 Let's say a billion dollars to BLM if you so can do that decision, right?

00:56:32.000 If that choice is there, then great.

00:56:33.000 The other thing you could do is don't allow tyranny to go across your radar screen without you doing something about it.

00:56:39.000 What does doing something mean?

00:56:41.000 Communication, dialogue, confronting that tyranny head on, eye to eye, and saying what you are doing is using your strength to exploit the weak.

00:56:50.000 It is immoral.

00:56:51.000 And I will not tolerate it with the power that is invested in me.

00:56:55.000 They don't know how to process that. 0.69

00:56:58.000 These are authoritarian, cowardly tyrants that all they have to do is be confronted by decent, reasonable, and courageous people. 0.83

00:57:06.000 And then we can win. 0.81

00:57:08.000 I think there's a lot more of those than people know.

00:57:10.000 Amen.

00:57:11.000 And we're going to see if they rise up.

00:57:13.000 Thank you for all you're doing, Charlie.

00:57:15.000 Thank you, guys.

00:57:17.000 You're a hero.

00:57:17.000 Thank you.

00:57:21.000 Thank you guys so much for listening.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - August 04, 2020

Why Conservatives Must Play Offense for America to Survive

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