The Charlie Kirk Show - Why Do "They" Want Americans So Unhealthy? ft. Calley Means

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00:00:00.000 Where does Bobby Kennedy stand in the confirmation fight?

00:00:03.000 We sit down with Callie Means straight from Washington, D.C. to discuss.

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00:01:18.000 Joining us now is Callie Means.

00:01:20.000 Callie, great to see you.

00:01:21.000 Great to see you, Charlie.

00:01:22.000 Just in from D.C. You and I both were there.

00:01:24.000 I was in the White House yesterday.

00:01:26.000 You were actually with Bobby Kennedy for his two hearings.

00:01:30.000 Also, you're the co-author of Good Energy.

00:01:32.000 Everyone should check it out.

00:01:33.000 Callie, give us a status report from the front lines on Bobby.

00:01:36.000 Let's take the Dems off the table. 0.77

00:01:38.000 I mean, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are two of the largest recipients of pharma dollars, total shills.

00:01:43.000 They were talking about baby onesies.

00:01:45.000 They were acting like they cared about children's health, but they didn't say the words diabetes, obesity, or heart disease, the things that are really the scourge of childhood health right now.

00:01:52.000 They didn't say those words one time in the hearing.

00:01:53.000 So let's take them off the table.

00:01:55.000 The bottom line, Charlie, is we've got to get the Republicans on board.

00:01:58.000 And Bill Cassidy, to his credit, was direct at the end of the last hearing, and he said he's still on the fence.

00:02:04.000 I think your tweet, Charlie, was pitch perfect.

00:02:06.000 I think we need to take Senator Cassidy at his word that he is a doctor.

00:02:12.000 He does care about public health.

00:02:14.000 And I think he's talking a bit past each other with Bobby Kennedy.

00:02:17.000 He says his vote's contingent on knowing that Bobby Kennedy is going to maintain trust in science.

00:02:22.000 The truth, as we know as parents, we're not scared for our children's health because of Bobby Kennedy.

00:02:27.000 We are scared because the American Academy of Pediatrics is pushing processed food on our kids.

00:02:31.000 We're scared because they're pushing Ozempic and other drugs on our kids as the standard of care.

00:02:34.000 We're scared because still the CDC is saying a six-month-old should get a COVID-19 shot.

00:02:39.000 The public health authorities are responsible for the breakdown of public health.

00:02:43.000 And you know this, and I know this.

00:02:44.000 I know you've been very close to Bobby throughout this process.

00:02:47.000 He is hellbent.

00:02:47.000 His life's mission with President Trump is to restore trust in science.

00:02:51.000 You've seen these meetings.

00:02:53.000 I'm shocked.

00:02:53.000 It would shock anyone.

00:02:54.000 I'm not shocked.

00:02:55.000 But behind closed doors, it's not about an ideology.

00:02:59.000 It's truly about getting the NIH money to the best researchers.

00:03:03.000 That's what they want to do.

00:03:04.000 So let me just ask, is there going to be some follow-up privately with Cassidy and Bobby?

00:03:09.000 I imagine they can meet as much as they want.

00:03:11.000 I mean, what happens publicly is somewhat performative.

00:03:14.000 I want to talk to the Maha moms, because as we both know, Bobby Kennedy, more than maybe any other cabinet secretary, came in there with a great coalition behind him.

00:03:21.000 It's an incredible coalition.

00:03:23.000 You saw it visually at the hearings.

00:03:24.000 I mean, thousands of Maha moms packing the halls. 1.00

00:03:27.000 So I want to be really clear to everyone watching, because I know everyone's really fired up, and I think we understand the societal stakes of this nomination.

00:03:34.000 Let's talk to Senator Cassidy with respect, as you did.

00:03:38.000 I think we need to bring him along.

00:03:39.000 The Maha is a new movement that health is not about the intricacies of Medicare-Medicaid policy.

00:03:44.000 It's about really getting the root cause of why we're getting sick.

00:03:46.000 And I think Senator Cassidy can be brought along on that.

00:03:49.000 Private conversations, of course those are happening.

00:03:51.000 Of course those are happening.

00:03:52.000 I think he's an independent guy.

00:03:54.000 He's obviously made some decisions we disagree with in the past.

00:03:58.000 Voting to convict the president.

00:04:00.000 Some big ones.

00:04:01.000 This could go a long way in his redemption arc.

00:04:03.000 Listen, there's some really obviously water on the bridge going backwards.

00:04:07.000 Looking forward to this is what I'd say to him.

00:04:09.000 And honestly, Charlie, I think it's probably what's being said.

00:04:12.000 Behind closed doors is that he's concerned with public trust in science.

00:04:16.000 And Bobby Kennedy and President Trump, its promises made, promises kept.

00:04:20.000 And they had two promises in this campaign.

00:04:22.000 It's to return to gold star research.

00:04:24.000 And it was really a positive health future where 95% today of health care costs are managing chronic disease.

00:04:30.000 We could have an incentive system.

00:04:32.000 Where companies are incentivized to reverse disease, to promote longevity.

00:04:37.000 You know, I know me and you read a lot of health blogs and books.

00:04:41.000 We can put that into medicine and incentivize and reward companies.

00:04:45.000 Right now we have a crony capitalist system that profits when we're sick.

00:04:48.000 So there's this positive vision forward that I think they're telling Cassidy behind closed doors.

00:04:54.000 I'll say this, Charlie, and I believe this with all my heart.

00:04:56.000 I believe a yes vote from Senator Cassidy and every Republican senator, I believe they will consider it one of the greatest votes of their career.

00:05:03.000 In four years at the end of the Trump administration, I'm not joking about this.

00:05:07.000 I think President Trump will be winning the Nobel Prize.

00:05:09.000 I think science is so, we're so lost right now.

00:05:13.000 We know the predetermined outcome before we do this study.

00:05:16.000 We are going to get back to asking tough questions, and President Trump, he said it again and again, we're going to figure out why the hell our kids are so sick, and we're going to steer research to that.

00:05:24.000 That's what's going to happen.

00:05:25.000 I want to play a piece of tape here in a second, but just really quick, can you riff how sick our kids actually are?

00:05:31.000 Grandparents sometimes don't realize or recognize that, oh, kids get sick all the time.

00:05:34.000 No, they are chronically, not acutely ill.

00:05:36.000 I mean, every parent watching, you and me, I am really...

00:05:39.000 That's what got me into this, along with my mom's death.

00:05:42.000 I am scared about the future our kids are walking into.

00:05:44.000 One in 30 kids in California having autism?

00:05:46.000 That's really, really scary.

00:05:48.000 I'm frankly, to be honest, concerned about the pharmaceutical products.

00:05:52.000 I'm concerned about the pharmaceutical products that are...

00:05:58.000 We have 50% of teens overweight or obese, and it's 3% in Japan.

00:06:03.000 The Biden administration held this number until after the election, but according to recent reports, 38% of teens are pre-diabetic.

00:06:10.000 We have a devastation among children's health.

00:06:12.000 President Trump held up this graph on the Joe Rogan podcast.

00:06:15.000 It showed we are spending three times more per capita than Europe, which, by the way, has terrible health care policy on health.

00:06:22.000 And living 10 years less than our friends in Switzerland or Japan and 7 years less than the Italians. 0.77

00:06:28.000 There's something really broken about our health incentives.

00:06:31.000 And Bobby Kennedy said it, Charlie.

00:06:33.000 There's nothing more profitable than a sick child.

00:06:36.000 Insurance industry, pharma industry, and hospitals make money when a child is sick with a chronic disease for a longer period of time, and they lose money when a child's healthy.

00:06:44.000 That's the fundamental problem.

00:06:45.000 I mean, it begs the question, then they want you sick because they make more money.

00:06:50.000 And this was really galvanized, I think, you and many other people and these incredible turning point events during the campaign.

00:06:55.000 It's not a slight on any one person.

00:06:58.000 We all know good doctors.

00:06:59.000 But as a simple statement of economic fact, because of the crony capitalism, because of the rigging of our CMS department and our FDA, The standard of care if a kid has high cholesterol is a statin.

00:07:11.000 The standard of care if they're a little bit sad is an SSRI. That's all because of the corruption in our agencies, the corporate capture.

00:07:18.000 Doctors aren't talking to kids about...

00:07:20.000 Healthy eating or functional medicine blood testing or getting outside.

00:07:24.000 These things could be incentivized with our medical system.

00:07:27.000 It's not a woo-woo thing.

00:07:28.000 We spend $4.5 trillion on healthcare.

00:07:31.000 And just as a simple fact, 95% of that is after we get sick.

00:07:35.000 It's managing disease.

00:07:37.000 Again, I mentioned they didn't say the word obesity, diabetes, heart disease.

00:07:40.000 Those chronic conditions are 92% of deaths in America right now.

00:07:43.000 They said the word measles 25 times, the Democrats.

00:07:48.000 300 Americans, just 300 Americans a year, died of measles in 1962 before the vaccine was invented.

00:07:53.000 It's a problem, right?

00:07:55.000 But we're not focused on the main issue as a healthcare system, and that's the opportunity that Bill Cassidy frankly has with this vote.

00:08:01.000 This is historic.

00:08:03.000 Illness has become very profitable, and Bobby Kennedy is going to ruin the annuity business model of keeping our kids sick.

00:08:10.000 I want to play this piece of tape here of the political power of Maha.

00:08:13.000 This is from Meghan McCain.

00:08:15.000 Play Cut 236. Let me tell you something just really quick.

00:08:20.000 There are a lot of women in my life, including Jessica Krause, who were not Republicans five years ago, that because of Tulsi and RFK came to Trump.

00:08:31.000 I mean, a lot.

00:08:32.000 And I would love to see the data on it, particularly with moms post-COVID. If they screw these two people and they don't get confirmed, it is a flesh wound for the Trump administration. 0.99

00:08:42.000 If Maha goes down and Tulsi goes down, there will be consequences.

00:08:46.000 Is that correct in your estimation?

00:08:49.000 Keeping it positive, this 24 hours, we're making the positive element, but this is part of it, frankly.

00:08:54.000 No, no, no, the first part, meaning that do you believe the ascendant mobs coalition?

00:08:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:58.000 So she's implying that there'll be retribution.

00:09:01.000 I want to make the positive spin, is that...

00:09:04.000 There is a absolute realignment of Republican politics due to Donald Trump.

00:09:08.000 A lot of reasons.

00:09:09.000 But I was talking to John McLaughlin.

00:09:11.000 I know the administration sees this.

00:09:13.000 The Mahamama is a huge part of it.

00:09:15.000 I mean, it's been called one of the biggest realignments in American politics.

00:09:17.000 You know, and you were a big part of this, Charlie, with young people, but you saw that.

00:09:20.000 You saw that at the events.

00:09:21.000 The young people were very animated about the Maha thing, about not poisoning kids and then drugging them for profit.

00:09:26.000 The gender gap closed much more than we expected.

00:09:29.000 I think it was supposed to be like 22 points and it was eight, is my understanding.

00:09:32.000 So the gender gap closed.

00:09:33.000 And then independence.

00:09:34.000 I mean, if you said eight years ago that the degree of young people, independence, and women were going to come to the Trump coalition, they'd think you were crazy.

00:09:41.000 That's right.

00:09:41.000 This was a multifactorial issue, but clearly because of the Maha moment.

00:09:46.000 I would just say, we cannot get worse than where we are right now.

00:09:50.000 We are the sickest country in the developed world.

00:09:53.000 Our public health authorities have totally let us down, from Fauci on down.

00:09:57.000 Not only that, there's a true, very optimistic vision ahead.

00:10:01.000 I mean, Jay Bhattacharya at the NIH is just an incredible pick.

00:10:04.000 Marty McCary at the FDA. I mean, it's just unbelievable people.

00:10:07.000 And they're Senate confirmed too, right?

00:10:08.000 They're Senate confirmed, and I think they'll be great.

00:10:10.000 And they're under the tree of HHS. Yeah, and Bobby is an incredible manager.

00:10:15.000 He's a magnetic personality, as you know.

00:10:17.000 But he set the vision, and he's going to let them run wild with the mandate to get money to the best researchers.

00:10:23.000 And importantly...

00:10:25.000 Reorient our corrupt American Medical Association codes that say right now that a two-year-old can have gender transition surgery.

00:10:31.000 Reorient the codes to incentivize longevity.

00:10:34.000 We can do that.

00:10:35.000 The whole sick care system we have isn't the free market.

00:10:38.000 It's rigged CMS codes that incentivize us to be sick.

00:10:42.000 And Dr. Oz will be doing CMS. And he's a hero.

00:10:44.000 I really, really make sense.

00:10:45.000 And so, just so I understand the lay of the land, is it really all down to Cassidy?

00:10:49.000 What other senators have yet...

00:10:51.000 Give us the...

00:10:53.000 The bullpen.

00:10:54.000 I'm just giving my brass tacks here.

00:10:56.000 I believe that Cassidy sends a signal to potentially other wobbly ones, and I do believe, I don't want a mince word, as Cassidy goes, so does the vote.

00:11:05.000 Oh, wow.

00:11:05.000 That's my opinion, Charlie.

00:11:07.000 And I think everyone here should be sending positive messages to Cassidy, positive, saying the opportunity for American health.

00:11:14.000 You've got the wobbly ones who voted against Hegseth, and I think that they...

00:11:20.000 I really think Cassidy's going to set a tone here. 1.00

00:11:22.000 I think we've got to get Cassidy.

00:11:23.000 And Cassidy has not signaled either way.

00:11:26.000 He's legitimately undecided.

00:11:28.000 He said at the end of the hearing, actually very directly, that he was torn on this and was going to be talking to Bobby this weekend.

00:11:33.000 So then we also have Susan Collins, Murkowski, and McConnell.

00:11:39.000 Collins made some nice comments at the hearing.

00:11:40.000 Yeah, Collins actually has been more effusive in support.

00:11:45.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:11:47.000 Lyme disease is a huge issue in her state. 0.68

00:11:49.000 Bobby's been a world leader on Lyme disease.

00:11:51.000 And by the way, they were trying to attack Bobby Kennedy for this lab leak.

00:11:54.000 It's almost certainly from...

00:11:56.000 A laboratory in Connecticut.

00:11:58.000 I'm sorry.

00:11:58.000 If you look at it, it was like a couple miles away.

00:12:01.000 I don't want to get into this right now.

00:12:03.000 No, it's true.

00:12:03.000 Everyone look at it.

00:12:04.000 Tucker did a whole program on this where Lyme is a very unusual phenomenon in the Upper Northeast.

00:12:10.000 Senator Bennett, who is a senator from Colorado, a DEM, who was one of my favorite DEMs, just disgraced himself.

00:12:16.000 He disgraced himself at this hearing.

00:12:18.000 I know.

00:12:19.000 I sometimes think he's kind of reasonable.

00:12:21.000 He disgraced himself.

00:12:22.000 Well, I don't understand.

00:12:22.000 In the Northeast, that Vermont main corridor, there's a lot of anti- Or like mom energy against the whole industrial complex.

00:12:31.000 I've learned a lot from you, Charlie.

00:12:33.000 We've got to sprint through the finish line here. 0.94

00:12:35.000 I think Collins looks good.

00:12:36.000 I think Lankford looks good.

00:12:37.000 Collins would be great.

00:12:38.000 I think Lankford looks good, but we've got to get Cassie.

00:12:40.000 I've always defended Collins.

00:12:41.000 Yeah, we've got to get Cassie.

00:12:42.000 She's not with me on most things, but she's always there when we need her.

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00:13:49.000 So we're right at that 48-49 vote threshold.

00:13:53.000 We're right there.

00:13:54.000 Is that correct, Callie, on Bobby?

00:13:55.000 That's my read.

00:13:56.000 And I think Cassidy is a weathervane. 1.00

00:14:00.000 I think he gives a signal if he votes no.

00:14:01.000 I think it's a problem.

00:14:02.000 Just the brass tacks are Cassidy's an influential guy.

00:14:05.000 Yeah, I mean, he's considered to be a medical doctor.

00:14:08.000 The doctor of the Senate.

00:14:09.000 He's the chair of the health committee.

00:14:10.000 And to his credit, he's been a long-term good doctor.

00:14:14.000 I'm going to be so kind.

00:14:16.000 But when I hear that someone's a doctor, I'm like, okay.

00:14:21.000 You have to earn my trust, okay?

00:14:23.000 The title does not, again, I'm giving him the opportunity, but the title does not guarantee.

00:14:29.000 It's nothing personal against him.

00:14:31.000 There's no question in my head.

00:14:33.000 Trust must be earned in every domain.

00:14:34.000 Absolutely.

00:14:35.000 There's no question in my head that he cares in his head about public health and cares about the American patient.

00:14:42.000 I actually think there's this—it's almost a symbolic thing.

00:14:45.000 He's the traditional system, and Bobby represents this new paradigm.

00:14:49.000 He's CMS policy.

00:14:51.000 Bobby's how do we actually incentivize better health. 0.85

00:14:53.000 So them merging together, I actually think could be successful.

00:14:56.000 So what is the gentle call to action, positive reinforcement for Senator Cassidy?

00:15:02.000 Yeah, and I know we all have opinions.

00:15:04.000 Not the you better type stuff?

00:15:05.000 No, it's not the threat.

00:15:07.000 I mean, Cassidy said this.

00:15:09.000 I think he said in his career he's never gotten more phone calls than he has this time from the Maha Moms. 1.00

00:15:16.000 They took down the phone number.

00:15:18.000 Yeah, they're camping out at his office.

00:15:20.000 I mean, I just want to say, Charlie, I mean...

00:15:24.000 I mean, channeled by Turning Point, you know, in the campaign and now here, this grassroots mobilization around so many issues, but around health.

00:15:31.000 I mean, it's pretty inspiring to see.

00:15:32.000 I mean, there were moms that drove 10 hours with their kids to come to this hearing.

00:15:35.000 It was pretty damn cool.

00:15:37.000 And the senators have said they've seen nothing like it in a long time.

00:15:40.000 So he's feeling that.

00:15:41.000 And that, I would say, is both a positive and a negative.

00:15:44.000 Clearly, there's going to be massive ramifications for any Republican that votes no, particularly with Bobby Kennedy.

00:15:50.000 But yeah, I just want to say this to everyone.

00:15:52.000 Right now, This is a big vote.

00:15:55.000 We're at a fork in the road for American health.

00:15:58.000 I believe it's a societally destabilizing situation we're in where we are 4% of the world's population, 75% of worldwide pharmaceutical profits, and 60th in life.

00:16:09.000 So we're 4% of the world's population and 75% of all worldwide pharmaceutical profits.

00:16:16.000 And we are 60th in life expectancy.

00:16:18.000 I mean, but you would think that if something is tied to population, it's not...

00:16:22.000 There are other wealthy countries, so...

00:16:24.000 Of course.

00:16:25.000 Europe as a whole is about the same GDP as us.

00:16:28.000 So how is it possible that we're 75%?

00:16:31.000 Let's get into what...

00:16:32.000 And this gets into the positive vision we can all paint.

00:16:35.000 Let's get into what Bobby can actually do.

00:16:38.000 So how are drug prices 10 times more expensive?

00:16:41.000 How are the United States is on more drugs?

00:16:43.000 Well, it's because you first rigged the NIH research.

00:16:46.000 The NIH research is 85% pharmaceutical R&D, basically saying not what causes Alzheimer's, but to find little Band-Aids for Alzheimer's.

00:16:54.000 Then the FDA approval process is totally dominated by Big Pharma.

00:16:57.000 They pay 75% of the budget, and it costs $3 billion to get a therapeutic through, which only necessitates large pharma.

00:17:05.000 So you have this CMS situation where...

00:17:21.000 Outside groups, literally lobbying organizations, make logic that underlie our entire healthcare paradigm, which basically wait for people to get sick and then jab a drug around our throat.

00:17:29.000 There's no reason, Charlie, we don't have more codes in Medicare-Medicaid to be more preventative or to have more root cause interventions.

00:17:36.000 The goal of healthcare obviously should be the most efficacious way to prevent a reverse disease.

00:17:41.000 As a statement of fact, the Medicare-Medicaid system right now is waiting for people to get sick and then drugging them and managing disease.

00:17:47.000 That's by design and it's through corruption.

00:17:49.000 through rigging every single step of the value chain.

00:17:51.000 That's why Bobby has told Senator Cassidy, and he means this, the place you need to start is the NIH.

00:17:57.000 You need to get the research on why we're getting diabetes epidemic rates, why we're so much sicker than Europe, whether the food dyes are healthy, which the FDA currently says they are, whether all these atrazine, which Alex Jones was right about, it's true.

00:18:11.000 It is true.

00:18:11.000 It is a huge estrogen.

00:18:13.000 It changes our testosterone to estrogen.

00:18:15.000 Of course, Alex Jones is right about most of this stuff.

00:18:17.000 Not about everything, but about most of these things.

00:18:19.000 This is definitive.

00:18:20.000 It changes testosterone to estrogen.

00:18:23.000 That is banned in every other country.

00:18:25.000 And we are spraying in our food.

00:18:27.000 By the way, that chemical atrazine specifically comes from China, and it's not used in China.

00:18:33.000 So there's real national security implications here.

00:18:36.000 So you start with the NIH. Then that underlies the FDA approval process.

00:18:40.000 You do regulate the FDA. You have more robust competition for the best therapeutics.

00:18:44.000 And then you get to...

00:18:46.000 The gold...

00:18:48.000 The big kahuna here, Charlie, is the medical codes. 0.87

00:18:52.000 Those are totally captured right now.

00:18:54.000 It's a boring part of the world.

00:18:56.000 And I think what Bobby and President Trump and this great team he's put together, they can communicate.

00:19:01.000 We've got you.

00:19:02.000 We've got Joe Rogan.

00:19:03.000 We've got independent media ready to carry the torch.

00:19:04.000 Megyn Kelly was sitting right behind Bobby at the hearing.

00:19:07.000 We are ready to shine a light on this again and again and again and use the grassroots army to get Americans healthier.

00:19:13.000 And it's going to start...

00:19:15.000 Hopefully soon.

00:19:16.000 So when is the vote?

00:19:17.000 What is the timeline here?

00:19:18.000 Cassidy said he's going to talk to Bobby this weekend.

00:19:21.000 Cassidy's on the finance committee, and the finance committee will be voting, the committee that's voting.

00:19:25.000 Wait, hold on.

00:19:26.000 Isn't there a health committee, too?

00:19:27.000 The health committee will not be voting out of committee.

00:19:30.000 So it has to be advanced out of finance?

00:19:31.000 Yes.

00:19:31.000 But I think he'll be okay in committee.

00:19:34.000 Cassidy's on that committee and has some sway, but he's on both committees.

00:19:38.000 Yes, but listen.

00:19:40.000 I think we're looking good.

00:19:41.000 He is going to be confirmed.

00:19:43.000 Like, this is an absolute campaign mandate.

00:19:45.000 Bobby's going to be confirmed.

00:19:47.000 I'm taking a lesson from you, which is not let up the gas.

00:19:50.000 I'm taking that lesson I saw from you during the campaign.

00:19:53.000 I might be sounding a little paranoid.

00:19:55.000 I think we've got to give a positive message to Cass.

00:19:59.000 We should be paranoid.

00:20:00.000 Charlie?

00:20:01.000 Because this is the biggest and most powerful industry in the country.

00:20:04.000 Pharma spends five times more on lobbying than the oil industry.

00:20:08.000 And if we can get this win, it is a huge, huge win for the American people.

00:20:11.000 Callie, thank you so much.

00:20:12.000 Email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:20:15.000 Contact your senator with a persuasive, uplifting email.

00:20:21.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

00:20:23.000 There's a lot of excitement in Washington, D.C. as we start the year, but I wanted to talk to you about something just as exciting happening outside the D.C. Beltway, a revolution in the States.

00:20:33.000 It's the Education Freedom Movement.

00:20:35.000 It's real.

00:20:35.000 It's growing and growing because some states, as they should, are putting parents in charge of the education of their kids.

00:20:42.000 Everyone knows education has the power to change a kid's life, and anyone who raised a child knows each has different needs, learning styles, and God-given talents.

00:20:52.000 The fact is parents know their own children best, knows what's best for their development and future.

00:20:58.000 Education freedom legislation puts parents, not zip codes and politicians, in charge of these important family decisions.

00:21:06.000 It's why I strongly support making universal education freedom a reality for every parent in every state.

00:21:12.000 To find out where your state legislature stands and to make sure your voice is heard, go to educationfreedomusa.com now.

00:21:20.000 Educationfreedomusa.com.

00:21:23.000 Let's throw live.

00:21:25.000 To White House Press Secretary, 27 years old, Caroline Levitt, let's listen in.

00:21:30.000 ...protocols made during the prior four years and to take all necessary corrective actions to achieve uncompromised aviation safety.

00:21:39.000 The review will include a comprehensive assessment and reversal of any deterioration in hiring standards and aviation safety standards and protocols during the previous administration.

00:21:51.000 Aviation safety was addressed by President Trump before this tragic collision even took place.

00:21:56.000 On his second day in office, the president signed a memorandum to immediately stop Biden-DEI hiring programs and return to non-discriminatory, merit-based hiring.

00:22:10.000 And in 2018, during President Trump's first term, the Department of Transportation announced it would put an end at that time to use the biological questionnaire that was introduced by the Obama administration, which punished skilled applicants.

00:22:26.000 President Trump has long led on the issue of aviation safety, and he will continue to do so.

00:22:32.000 He will continue to deliver on the promises he made to the American people at record speed.

00:22:36.000 The Senate has already confirmed eight of President Trump's exceptional cabinet nominees, including most recently Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, as you of course know, EPA Secretary Lee Zeldin, and Interior Secretary Doug Burgum, who is scheduled to be sworn in later today.

00:22:53.000 We expect the Senate to continue quickly confirming the remainder of President Trump's well-qualified nominees in the days ahead.

00:23:00.000 Earlier this week in the East Room, the President proudly signed the Lakin-Riley Act into law, surrounded by Lakin's loving parents and sister.

00:23:09.000 This common-sense bipartisan law mandates the federal detention of illegal aliens who are accused of theft, burgeoning, assaulting a law enforcement officer, and any crime that causes death or serious bodily injury, like the animal who murdered Lakin-Riley in cold blood.

00:23:28.000 This was the first piece of legislation President Trump proudly signed as the 47th President of the United States, and it will guarantee that Lakin did not die in vain.

00:23:38.000 As Lakin's mother, Allison, tearfully said during the signing event, President Trump said he would secure our borders and that he would never forget about Lakin, and he hasn't.

00:23:48.000 He's a man of his word, and we trust that he will fight for the American people.

00:23:52.000 Those are the words of Lakin's mother, and we will never forget them.

00:23:57.000 So to help lock up even more criminal illegal aliens, President Trump signed a memorandum this week to detain them at Guantanamo Bay.

00:24:05.000 This action will expand the Migrant Operations Center at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay to full capacity to provide critical extra detention space for high-priority criminal illegals. 0.63

00:24:18.000 Our brave ICE agents continue to arrest more and more of these types of individuals every day in communities across our country.

00:24:25.000 And I have more updates for you.

00:24:27.000 On January 27, 2025, ICE Chicago arrested a citizen of Guatemala who has been convicted of solicitation to meet a child, disturbing, and sentenced to 24 months probation.

00:24:40.000 On January 28th, 2025, ICE Atlanta arrested a citizen of South Korea who has been convicted of nine counts of possession or control of material depicting minors in sexually explicit conduct.

00:24:53.000 On January 28th, ICE New York arrested a Mexican national previously charged by the state of New York for attempted murder in possession of a weapon and assault.

00:25:04.000 And on January 28th, ICE Philly arrested a citizen of Mexico who has been convicted of possession of child pornography.

00:25:12.000 Our message is simple.

00:25:15.000 If you are a criminal, illegal alien, you will be arrested and deported.

00:25:21.000 On another important matter, the nation's report card was released this week, and the news is not good.

00:25:26.000 It showed that U.S. students had record low reading comprehension scores last year.

00:25:32.000 It's National School Choice Week, and in part of the president's commitment to education, he just left a roundtable in the Roosevelt Room focused on this issue with leaders from across the country.

00:25:44.000 The national report card showed that 70% of 8th graders were below proficient in reading, and 40% of 4th graders did not even meet the basic reading levels.

00:25:53.000 This is completely unacceptable to the president, and he continues to take aggressive actions to address This education problem in our country, he signed an executive order this week prohibiting federal funding of the indoctrination of our children, including radical gender ideology and critical race theory in the classroom.

00:26:12.000 The president believes American education should focus on cultivating patriotic citizens who are ready for the workforce.

00:26:20.000 And this action will help get schools back on track and defend fundamental parental rights and education.

00:26:27.000 The president also signed a school choice executive order expanding educational freedom and opportunity for families.

00:26:34.000 And in lighter news, but in exciting news, after announcing our briefing room changes on Wednesday, this White House has received more than 10,000 submissions from individuals across the country who are eager to join all of you.

00:26:48.000 We might have to make this room a little bit bigger to do that.

00:26:51.000 Who want to participate in our new media seat at a future briefing.

00:26:55.000 So in this seat today, we have the Ruthless podcast.

00:26:58.000 They humbly started by entertaining small audiences on Capitol Hill, but after four years, this program has become one of the most influential podcasts in America.

00:27:09.000 They previously reached number one on the charts and earned over 25 million downloads as they deliver political news with a humorous touch.

00:27:17.000 The hosts are Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, comfortably smug, and the man joining us today, John Ashbrook.

00:27:23.000 So with that, I will take your questions.

00:27:25.000 John, please kick us off.

00:27:27.000 Thank you very much.

00:27:28.000 You know, Caroline, in your first briefing, the media...

00:27:32.000 After this administration for deporting illegal immigrants, they claimed I think that's proven by a number of things, John.

00:27:42.000 Number one, there was a New York Times poll that was released prior to President Trump's inauguration by the New York Times, which of course is a legacy media outlet, that showed that 83% of Americans support deporting the individuals that you mentioned, illegal immigrant criminals, especially those who have committed heinous crimes in the interior of our country. 0.63

00:28:03.000 And I received a very actually interesting statistic on this front from ICE this week.

00:28:08.000 97% of the deportations that this administration has made thus far are of individuals who had a removal order from the previous administration, but were never removed from the interior of our country.

00:28:24.000 So this shows that the previous administration was actually defying our laws, and all this administration is doing is simply following the laws, the immigration laws of this great country. 0.61

00:28:34.000 Thanks for the question, John.

00:28:35.000 Anything else?

00:28:37.000 Okay, great.

00:28:38.000 Peter.

00:28:39.000 If President Trump is telling us that air traffic control towers are staffed with unqualified controllers, these DEI hires who never should have been brought on, then it's not safe to fly commercially, is it?

00:28:51.000 The President was asked and answered this yesterday and he believes that it is still indeed safe and Americans should feel safe traveling our skies.

00:28:59.000 With that said...

00:29:00.000 Two things can be true at the same time.

00:29:03.000 And we certainly have seen the deterioration of federal hiring standards at the Federal Aviation Administration.

00:29:10.000 And the President wants to increase those standards.

00:29:13.000 He wants pilots in this country who have the great responsibility of flying American citizens by the tens of millions every single day to be chosen for that position based on their merit and their skills.

00:29:24.000 And so the administration will continue to prioritize this.

00:29:28.000 Was the air traffic controller in the DCA Tower on Wednesday night hired or not fired at some point because of his or her race?

00:29:36.000 That investigation is ongoing.

00:29:38.000 And so when we have updates on the exact individuals who were involved in the collision, including the air traffic controller, also the pilots of the helicopter and others, we will confirm those.

00:29:50.000 I don't want to confirm names from this podium today.

00:29:52.000 We're not in a position to do that.

00:29:53.000 But I will say the president has still rightfully pointed out that there has been problems with the aviation industry over the past several years.

00:30:03.000 And this started under Barack Obama in 2014. And when the president says on Truth Social, the Blackhawk helicopter was flying too high by a lot.

00:30:11.000 It was far above the 200-foot limit.

00:30:13.000 That's not really too complicated to understand, is it?

00:30:16.000 Is he suggesting a helicopter malfunction or a...

00:30:23.000 No, the president is simply stating what he said in that true social post, which is that the helicopter was flying higher than it should have been, which is one of the reasons that led to this collision.

00:30:34.000 And the other reasons for that are still being investigated, and I will let that investigation play out.

00:30:39.000 Irreversible procedures on kids, such as a double mastectomy on a minor girl.

00:30:44.000 Well, the President has already taken a very strong stance on this issue this week with the signing of his executive order, a few executive orders in this space.

00:30:52.000 First, he made it the official policy of the federal government that there are only two sexes, male and female, and we have directed all federal agencies to comply with that policy. 0.93

00:31:02.000 As for congressional legislation to support the President's agenda in this space, and certainly ending...

00:31:09.000 The mutilation of young children, the chemical castration of young children, which is a barbaric practice that the vast majority of Americans do not support for young minor children.

00:31:18.000 Certainly, the President would support Congress's efforts, as he has already made that very clear this week.

00:31:24.000 Jennifer.

00:31:25.000 On Rick Grinnell's trip to Venezuela to meet with Nicolas Maduro, is there anything you can share on timing on that, what his agenda is, what the mission of that trip is?

00:31:34.000 Yes.

00:31:34.000 So I can confirm that Rick Grinnell is in Venezuela today.

00:31:38.000 I can confirm that Rick Grinnell is going to Venezuela or is in Venezuela with very two immediate directives from the President of the United States.

00:31:48.000 Number one, Rick Grinnell has been instructed to identify a place and ensure that...

00:31:54.000 That repatriation flights of Trente Aragua members, Venezuelan nationals who have broken our nation's laws, will land in Venezuela. 1.00

00:32:03.000 As I said at this podium a few days ago, we expect every nation on this planet to cooperate with the repatriation of our citizens, and so Rick Grinnell is in Venezuela to ensure that can continue.

00:32:15.000 And number two, Rick Grinnell is in Venezuela to ensure that all U.S. detainees in Venezuela are returned home.

00:32:23.000 That's his mission.

00:32:26.000 On Bob Hernandez, can you tell us if anyone has approached the White House or the President about a pardon or a commutation?

00:32:32.000 I have not been part of those discussions.

00:32:35.000 If they have, I am not sure if they have, but I won't speculate on potential pardons that may or may not happen.

00:32:40.000 To my awareness, the answer is no.

00:32:42.000 Justin.

00:32:45.000 Friends of Reuters are reporting that the President has made a decision on...

00:32:52.000 I saw that report, and it is false.

00:32:59.000 I was just with the President in the Oval Office, and I can confirm that tomorrow, the February 1st deadline that President Trump put into place at a statement several weeks ago continues.

00:33:09.000 The President will be implementing tomorrow 25% tariffs on Mexico, 25% tariffs on Canada, 10% tariff on China for the illegal fentanyl that they have sourced and allowed to distribute into our country, which has killed tens of millions of Americans.

00:33:28.000 These are promises made and promises kept by the President.

00:33:31.000 The President yesterday said that last night he was planning to discuss whether an exemption would be made on oil imports.

00:33:38.000 Do you have any information on what decisions you made there, or will there be exemptions at all offered under those?

00:33:43.000 I don't have an update or readout for you on the exemptions, but those tariffs will be for public consumption in about 24 hours tomorrow, so you can read them then.

00:33:53.000 Stephen Nelson.

00:33:54.000 Thank you very much.

00:33:56.000 I have three questions, if that's all right.

00:33:58.000 I'd like to ask you about press freedom and then about two economic matters.

00:34:01.000 Sure.

00:34:02.000 On press freedom, on Tuesday, you announced plans to roll back the more restrictive press badge policy of the White House.

00:34:09.000 But there's a different anti-press freedom policy I wanted to ask about.

00:34:13.000 The White House adopted a mysterious pre-screening process for journalists allowed into large event spaces.

00:34:20.000 That in the pre-pandemic phase, first Trump term were open to all journalists on campus.

00:34:25.000 This effectively limited the diversity of reporters present and blocked the asking questions that large segments of the American public wanted answered.

00:34:32.000 As Press Secretary, can you commit to abolishing this mysterious pre-screening process?

00:34:37.000 There were a lot of mysterious processes that my team and I have had to unravel over the past two weeks that were implemented by the previous White House, and in particular, the previous press shop here.

00:34:49.000 And so I can commit...

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00:35:55.000 Okay, more with Caroline Levitt.

00:35:58.000 Let's listen in.

00:35:59.000 It's open press.

00:36:03.000 something you're aware of and you work to undo to the maximum extent possible?

00:36:07.000 Ms. When we say something is open press, it will mean it's open press.

00:36:10.000 The Press: -- economic matters, and I can just ask them both at once for you.

00:36:13.000 Ms. Sure. 0.92

00:36:13.000 The Press: In New York City, Governor Vogel's congestion pricing went into effect this month. 0.92

00:36:19.000 Vehicles that drive through parts of Manhattan have to pay a $9 toll.

00:36:23.000 President Trump has made clear his opposition.

00:36:25.000 He said that it's, quote, "the most progressive tax known to womankind." Will the administration be trying to block this?

00:36:31.000 And the second question is millions and maybe tens of millions of Americans voted for President Trump.

00:36:38.000 We're excited about his plans to do away with taxes on tips, overtime, Social Security benefits.

00:36:43.000 But there's uncertainty about the timing of this.

00:36:45.000 So can you clarify for them when this is going to happen?

00:36:48.000 Does President Trump want to see all three of those in the first batch of legislation early this year?

00:36:53.000 Well, to answer your question in one swoop, I will say that President Trump is committed to lowering taxes for Americans, cutting taxes for Americans.

00:37:01.000 As for congestion pricing in New York, I do know that the President spoke with Governor Hochul about that.

00:37:07.000 I don't have any, you know, actions, so to speak, to read out for you on that issue today.

00:37:11.000 Number two, when it comes to no taxes on tips and Social Security, the president has made it very clear to our allies on Capitol Hill that is a critical piece of this reconciliation package, and he expects that his tax cuts from 2017, which put a lot more money back into the American people's pockets, those must be implemented, and no tax on tips.

00:37:33.000 The president is intent on delivering on that promise, and he will get it done.

00:37:36.000 Overtime also as part of reconciliation?

00:37:38.000 Yes.

00:37:39.000 Sure.

00:37:40.000 Thanks, Caroline.

00:37:41.000 Can you guarantee that those tariffs won't increase prices for Americans, including at the gas pump in the grocery store?

00:37:47.000 I think Americans who are concerned about increased prices should look at what President Trump did in his first term.

00:37:52.000 He effectively implemented tariffs, and the average inflation rate during the first Trump administration was 1.9 percent.

00:37:59.000 In fact, when President Trump left office, it was 1.4 percent.

00:38:02.000 So President Trump is going to do everything he possibly can to cut the inflation crisis that the previous administration That's a hypothetical question.

00:38:19.000 And the president is intent on ensuring that he effectively implements tariffs while cutting inflation and costs for the American people.

00:38:27.000 And, you know, the media has this way of just looking at everything in a microscope rather than looking at the whole-of-government economic approach that this president is taking.

00:38:35.000 He will effectively implement tariffs.

00:38:37.000 He's also, as I just said, He's also clearly committed, as evidenced by his executive orders, to unleashing the might of our energy industry, which we know will eventually drive down inflation.

00:38:51.000 And all the other economic measures that this president has made will have a Trump incoming economic boom, just like we saw in our first term.

00:39:01.000 Fox Business, yes.

00:39:02.000 Go ahead.

00:39:02.000 Thanks, Carolyn.

00:39:03.000 You're welcome.

00:39:04.000 Justin Trudeau, the Canadian Prime Minister, said today that if the U.S. imposes tariffs, he will respond and he will not relent until the tariffs are removed.

00:39:13.000 Are we seeing the start of the trade war?

00:39:15.000 I don't think so.

00:39:16.000 I think the President is going to implement those tariffs tomorrow, and he will respond to Mr. Trudeau's comments in due time, I am sure.

00:39:23.000 What other things have to happen?

00:39:25.000 What does the administration need to see in order to avoid those tariffs?

00:39:28.000 Well, the tariffs are incoming tomorrow on Canada, and the reason for that is because both Canada and Mexico have allowed an unprecedented invasion of illegal fentanyl that is killing American citizens and also illegal immigrants into our country.

00:39:44.000 In fact, I have more language for you right here.

00:39:46.000 Canada, Mexico, and China, which, as I mentioned, President Trump will implement a 10% tariff on China, have all enabled illegal drugs to pour into America.

00:39:55.000 America.

00:39:55.000 The amount of fentanyl that has been seized at the southern border in the last two years alone has the potential to kill tens of millions of Americans.

00:40:03.000 And so the president is intent on doing this.

00:40:05.000 And I think Justin Trudeau would be wise to talk to President Trump directly before pushing outlandish comments like that to the media.

00:40:11.000 If I may go back to the plane crash for one second.

00:40:17.000 You're interrupting your calling, but sure.

00:40:20.000 I called on Lindsey.

00:40:21.000 The President this morning said the Black Hawk helicopter was flying too high.

00:40:24.000 I'm wondering if he's basing that on what he learned from investigators, and if you could offer a little bit more of a window into how he is keeping abreast of this investigation.

00:40:32.000 Sure.

00:40:33.000 Is the NTSB briefing him separately?

00:40:34.000 Is he meeting in the Situation Room?

00:40:38.000 Yeah, the President based that statement on truth, because it is truth and it's fact, and it was relayed to him by the authorities who are overseeing the investigation into this horrific plane collision.

00:40:48.000 And the President, as I said in my opening remarks, continues to be briefed on the collision by everybody across his Cabinet, the Secretary of Transportation, the Secretary of Defense, the NTSB, who the Commissioner there was in the Oval Office with him yesterday.

00:41:03.000 Lindsey.

00:41:03.000 Lindsey, go ahead.

00:41:06.000 Lindsey, go ahead. 1.00

00:41:07.000 Thank you.

00:41:08.000 The CIA actually revealed that they do also believe that COVID-19 was from a lab leak in Wuhan, China.

00:41:14.000 How is the president planning on responding to this additional intel from the CIA and will it impact how he responds to them with tariffs?

00:41:24.000 Yeah, kudos to John Ratcliffe for revealing that truth and that fact to the American people.

00:41:29.000 Many years too late, the Biden administration has...

00:41:31.000 We now know that to be the confirmable truth.

00:41:34.000 It took many years for it to come out, but the president was right in this instance again.

00:41:38.000 Sure.

00:41:39.000 Caroline, thank you.

00:41:39.000 I wanted to ask about Secretary Rubio's trip to Panama first.

00:41:43.000 Sure.

00:41:43.000 What did the conversations look like with President Trump on that?

00:41:46.000 The president of Panama says it is, quote, impossible to negotiate over the canal.

00:41:50.000 So what are you expecting from this visit?

00:41:53.000 So I have not been present for Secretary Rubio's conversations with President Trump about the Panama Canal.

00:42:00.000 I have been present for President Trump's own thoughts on the Panama Canal, and you've all seen them as well in his public statements that he has shown.

00:42:08.000 He believes it's unacceptable that the canal is essentially run by the Chinese Communist Party.

00:42:13.000 If you look at both ends of the canal, massive Chinese Communist Party-linked companies run the canal.

00:42:20.000 That's unfair to the American people, many of whom lost their lives many years ago building this canal.

00:42:25.000 The American taxpayers are paying millions of dollars for the canal, and the president believes it's in our national interest as a nation for Secretary Rubio to go there and begin these discussions, and that's exactly why he's doing that.

00:42:38.000 Thank you very much, Caroline.

00:42:39.000 Is the United States in the process of pulling out of Syria militarily?

00:42:43.000 Because the President wanted to do that in his first term as well, and he had a lot of pushback from the Pentagon and Congress.

00:42:49.000 And based on what he said yesterday, is he considering doing that in a short time?

00:42:54.000 The President was asked and answered this question yesterday, and he, as the Commander-in-Chief of the United States military, reserves the right to review troop deployments overseas at any point in time.

00:43:04.000 Is there a topic right now?

00:43:05.000 Yes.

00:43:06.000 Thank you.

00:43:07.000 Two questions.

00:43:08.000 So we now know that the staffing was not normal at the air traffic tower, and so with the government increasing the hiring of new federal workers and offering buyouts, are you not afraid that more incidents of different kinds could happen with less staffing in different agencies?

00:43:24.000 Well, the President is intent on ensuring that we are increasing staffing at these agencies, and that's why he signed a very strong executive order on his second day in office, immediately terminating.

00:43:36.000 DEI hiring practices at the FAA. He also, following the tragic crash, as you all know, in the Oval Office yesterday, signed a memorandum directing an immediate assessment of the FAA to ensure the federal government is maintaining the highest personnel and aviation safety standards.

00:43:52.000 And I would also just say there's a cultural piece to this as well.

00:43:56.000 If you are an American who has spent many years studying aviation and you graduate from school and you're an I think that deteriorates the morale of people in this industry. 1.00

00:44:21.000 And if you talk to people in this industry, they'll tell you that.

00:44:24.000 In fact, many of them filed a lawsuit against the FAA a couple of years ago under Joe Biden's administration because they were denied positions.

00:44:34.000 Because of this DEI hiring practice that was putting identity politics over merit and skills.

00:44:40.000 That's unacceptable.

00:44:42.000 And I think just to put a fine point on this, because this is the third or fourth question I've answered on this subject.

00:44:48.000 When you are flying on an airplane with your loved ones, which every one of us in this room has, do you pray that your plane lands safely and gets you to your destination, or do you pray that the pilot has a certain skin colour?

00:44:59.000 I think we all know the answer to that question, and as President Trump said yesterday, it's common sense.

00:45:03.000 Rob Crilley.

00:45:04.000 Yeah, I'd just like to follow up on that last question.

00:45:06.000 Has there been any sort of assurance from the FAA that they will immediately improve staffing levels, given the reports of not normal staffing levels?

00:45:14.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:45:15.000 You had Secretary Duffy here yesterday.

00:45:17.000 At the White House at this podium saying that he is on it and we can all trust that he definitely will be.

00:45:22.000 John Decker.

00:45:26.000 Yes, I did.

00:45:27.000 Thank you very much.

00:45:28.000 As long as your name's still John Decker.

00:45:29.000 Absolutely.

00:45:30.000 Thank you.

00:45:31.000 The President's meeting today with the founder and CEO, Evan Vidio.

00:45:35.000 What is that meeting concerning, and who sought that meeting?

00:45:39.000 I don't have details on this.

00:45:40.000 It's a private meeting.

00:45:41.000 It will take place at 2.30 p.m.

00:45:43.000 I'll try to get there in time, and I can let you know after.

00:45:46.000 How's that?

00:45:47.000 On Guantanamo Bay, can you give more details about setting up that detention facility?

00:45:52.000 At Gitmo, how will that come about?

00:45:54.000 What's the timing in terms of standing it up?

00:45:57.000 And of course, this has happened before during the Clinton administration.

00:46:00.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:46:01.000 Detainees of Cuban and Haitian descent were both detained at Guantanamo.

00:46:05.000 Are you looking at that model in setting up this detention facility?

00:46:09.000 Secretary Hegseth, I believe, was on television this morning answering this question, and he said that the Department of Defense is already on it.

00:46:16.000 He has directed his agency to ensure that Gitmo is increasing their capacity for beds.

00:46:22.000 And that's exactly what President Trump's executive order did.

00:46:25.000 It directed Secretary Hegseth and also Secretary Noem to expand the migrant operations center at the naval station to provide for this extra detention space.

00:46:35.000 And as Secretary Hegseth confirmed this morning, that operation is underway.

00:46:39.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:46:41.000 Email us, as always, at freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - February 01, 2025

Why Do "They" Want Americans So Unhealthy? ft. Calley Means

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