The Charlie Kirk Show - Why Does the Left Think A Pilot's Color Matters?

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00:00:01.000 Does it matter the skin color of your pilot?

00:00:04.000 What is DEI doing to how we look at people that are flying our planes?

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00:01:57.000 So over the last 24 hours, a lot of things have been going viral, including a clip that I was in from last week where I said that we should prioritize excellence, not diversity, when it comes to air travel.

00:02:10.000 That DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion, should mean nothing when it comes to safe trips at 35,000 feet.

00:02:20.000 It has now been viewed 7 million times.

00:02:23.000 And I can go even deeper in that.

00:02:25.000 And I will as the time presents, but I want to get to our guests in just a second here because what DEI does, especially when you talk about the United Airline hiring quota, is that you are forcing criteria that is irrelevant.

00:02:39.000 United Airlines is bragging that 50% of their new pilots, 50% of their new pilots, will be black.

00:02:45.000 Now, there are a lot of questions that arise from this.

00:02:47.000 This means that if you have a qualified and extraordinarily black or women or female, if you have an extraordinarily qualified white pilot and a not so qualified or someone didn't do as well in their test, black pilot or female pilot, who do you choose, United Airlines?

00:03:05.000 If Harvard University is any example, it shows that in order to reach abstract diversity, equity, inclusion, affirmative action goals, you end up having to lower the standard to reach that goal.

00:03:20.000 This is United Airlines that triggered this entire conversation.

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00:03:26.000 How is diversity and diversity targets working into the Aviator Academy?

00:03:30.000 We have committed that 50% of the class of the classes will be women or people of color.

00:03:36.000 Today, only 19% of our pilots at United Airlines are women or people of color.

00:03:41.000 And by the way, from all the data I've seen, that's the highest of any airline in the country.

00:03:45.000 White males don't just dominate in the cockpits. 0.73

00:03:47.000 Also, in the C-suite at United Airlines.

00:03:50.000 Well, look, at United, I'm proud of the diversity that we actually have in our C-suite.

00:03:53.000 I think if you look around corporate America, one of the things we do is for every job when we do an interview, we require women and people of color to be involved in the interview process.

00:04:03.000 As if it's just the standard thing that we are now going to actively discriminate based on race or sex.

00:04:09.000 For what reason?

00:04:10.000 What is the problem you're trying to solve?

00:04:11.000 Joining us, how is Kyle Bailey, former FAA safety team representative?

00:04:16.000 Kyle, thank you for taking the time today.

00:04:17.000 What is your reaction?

00:04:18.000 What does the pursuit of diversity have to do with safe air travel?

00:04:23.000 You know, safe air travel is basically just your experience, your training, and really even the type of person that you are.

00:04:32.000 But experience is the key.

00:04:34.000 The number of flight hours and the quality of the training also is a key here.

00:04:39.000 So, you know, to basically say that because of your race, your skin color, whether you're male or female, you know, whether you're a minority, it doesn't cut it as far as being in the left seat or the right seat of an airliner.

00:04:56.000 You want to have that experience.

00:04:58.000 You need that experience.

00:04:59.000 The FAA mandates 1,500 flight hours for the typical person coming into the right seat of an airliner.

00:05:07.000 Those 1,500 flight hours are very hard to get, especially if you're in an inner city because you're paying hundreds of dollars of flight hours to get this training, and it's a lot of money.

00:05:21.000 And quite frankly, minorities in inner cities don't have tens of thousands of dollars to throw away on flight training.

00:05:29.000 So the question is: how do they get to those standards, or how does an airline get them to those 1,500-hour standards to be a very competent pilot?

00:05:40.000 But to answer your question, I mean, experience is the key.

00:05:45.000 End of story.

00:05:46.000 If it's anything less, safety of these airliners is no doubt going to be in jeopardy.

00:05:54.000 Are you concerned that airline safety might be in jeopardy because of this hyper-aggressive hiring push for diversity?

00:06:04.000 You know, eventually it will.

00:06:06.000 If this, if these programs go forward and people are just pushed through the system, it's also going to have a psychological effect on the qualified candidates who pretty much busted their tail from like 14 or 15 years old.

00:06:21.000 When you go into an average cockpit of your average airliner, if you knocked on that cockpit door and said, Hey, guys, tell me about your experience.

00:06:29.000 When did you start flying?

00:06:31.000 They typically will say when they were 16, 17 years old, that's because they have a passion for it.

00:06:37.000 You just don't wake up and say, you know what?

00:06:40.000 I want to be an airline pilot.

00:06:42.000 I see United Airlines is putting a program out there.

00:06:44.000 I want to become an airline pilot now.

00:06:46.000 Forget everything else I spoke about.

00:06:48.000 It doesn't work that way.

00:06:50.000 You either have the bug or you don't have the bug.

00:06:52.000 And they say when you're very young, if you have a young child, you know if that child has the bug, if an airplane flies over and they look to the sky, you know they have that love and that passion and to become a pilot.

00:07:07.000 So you can't put that into any into somebody who does not have that.

00:07:15.000 I would love to say, you know what, we have lots of women and we have lots of African Americans flying airplanes.

00:07:22.000 If they have the proper qualifications, if they go through the same interview scrutiny, say, as a white male does, it's fine.

00:07:32.000 And I would encourage that if they did, and I would welcome it.

00:07:35.000 You know, just recently we heard of Miss America. 0.71

00:07:40.000 She's a young lady and she's going through all the proper steps.

00:07:43.000 She has her pilot's license.

00:07:45.000 Now is going into the Air Force and she's going through those steps properly to probably one day wanting to become an airline pilot. 0.64

00:07:53.000 So that's the type of person and the type of female we want to see become airline pilots where we know they're qualified and we know the passengers will really appreciate the fact that there is a qualified individual in the left seat in that cockpit flying their airplane that they're paying a lot of money to fly on.

00:08:15.000 So Kyle, the American flying standards are very, very high.

00:08:19.000 And thankfully we've had a track record of millions of flights, praise God, knock on wood in the last couple decades without a major airliner crash.

00:08:28.000 And I just want to say we hope that continues.

00:08:32.000 Now we're starting to see a bubbling up of certain issues and problems and there's a lot of close calls.

00:08:38.000 Part of this is, and there's some rumors around this, that from the FAA, specifically Air Traffic Control ATC, that they're prioritizing diversity as well.

00:08:50.000 Can you talk about just broadly how important it is to be a qualified individual for air traffic control?

00:08:56.000 We focus on the pilots, but air traffic control is a very high-pressure, difficult task where I think everyone in the audience would agree that excellence and meritocracy should be the most important qualification to be an air traffic controller.

00:09:11.000 That's right.

00:09:12.000 Air traffic controllers are pretty much held to the same standards as airline pilots from the psychological and the physical perspective, and even as far as their training goes.

00:09:24.000 A very strict, condensed FAA training program where it takes about two years to become an air traffic controller.

00:09:33.000 But you can't become an air traffic controller at 45 or 50 or 55 years old.

00:09:38.000 You have to be the max age, I believe, is in the 30s to become an air traffic controller.

00:09:43.000 And that's because they want somebody sharp.

00:09:46.000 And your mind pretty much goes downhill after a certain age, like it or not.

00:09:52.000 So to kind of, there's no doubt in my mind that there's going to be any controllers who have any kind of psychological, a negative history in their background.

00:10:04.000 But it really does play a key because it's a very difficult job.

00:10:10.000 Like the pilot, they're even actually under more stress because they're basically staring at a computer screen for four or five hours at a time.

00:10:19.000 And, you know, just getting on this diversity thing, I don't want to kind of identify who this person is, but I'm just going to give you an example.

00:10:30.000 When I was a kid and when I was going for flight training many years ago, there was an air traffic controller who was female and also a minority who really was making a lot of mistakes in the control tower. 0.99

00:10:43.000 Pilots were calling the tower.

00:10:45.000 Everybody knew it.

00:10:46.000 It pretty much was like a laughing stock within a certain region of the FAA. 0.94

00:10:52.000 And they tried getting rid of her. 0.75

00:10:55.000 They actually got rid of her and then she basically sued, got her job back.

00:11:00.000 And to make a long story short, they wound up transferring her from a smaller airport with very small airplanes to a major airport just to kind of get her out of the hair of and the environment where she was to pretty much give her like a, in other words, a fresh start again.

00:11:21.000 And that's one of these examples.

00:11:23.000 And we see that throughout in government where they just pretty much push people through.

00:11:28.000 And it's very hard once you get, say, like a minority or a female.

00:11:33.000 I mean, it's very hard to fire you, you know, in the federal government.

00:11:37.000 The same thing, even with the White male. 0.95

00:11:40.000 It's very hard to even fire a white male in the government unless you really screw up. 0.71

00:11:45.000 You know, and I always tell people: everybody should have a government job.

00:11:48.000 You're pretty much, you show up for work every day, you're pretty much set for life.

00:11:52.000 You have a great pension when you retire.

00:11:54.000 But let's face it, government isn't like the private sector.

00:11:58.000 Yes.

00:11:58.000 If this happened in the private sector, you'd be booted, you know, in a matter of hours.

00:12:04.000 Kyle, thank you for this and excellent.

00:12:05.000 I'd love to have you back on soon.

00:12:07.000 You didn't really put me at ease, I'll be honest with that story.

00:12:10.000 We need to demand excellence.

00:12:12.000 And I think I speak for our audience.

00:12:14.000 Next time you're at 35,000 feet, I hope that the pilot is qualified and knows what they're doing, not just there because they fit some sort of abstract criteria.

00:12:25.000 Thank you, Kyle.

00:12:26.000 Thanks.

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00:12:39.000 America's founders recognized an obvious fact of life: human beings differ in terms of physical attributes and talents.

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00:13:32.000 Let's dive into this a little bit deeper.

00:13:33.000 So, currently, 19% of United Airlines' pilot corps is minority or female.

00:13:39.000 They openly state that they will ensure the next pilot class is half female minority.

00:13:44.000 So, here's just a few questions that United Airlines should have to answer: Are there enough candidates to fill the 50% quota?

00:13:51.000 Why are 81% of the pilots white currently?

00:13:55.000 Is it because they happen to be the best pilots?

00:13:57.000 Is it possible white men tend to be more attracted to the flying profession?

00:14:01.000 If white men land planes safely, what is the problem? 0.96

00:14:05.000 Seriously, what problem are you trying to solve here?

00:14:08.000 Why are you trying to force a hiring class when there is no noticeable problem?

00:14:14.000 Except you don't like the melanin content in the skin of the people in the cockpit.

00:14:20.000 If hiring is based on merit, why aren't there more minority or female pilots?

00:14:27.000 Why should I be upset?

00:14:28.000 Why should you be upset or angry that 81% of pilots are white men?

00:14:33.000 These are decent people, they're family men.

00:14:34.000 A lot of them are veterans, and we've all had our lives in their hands, and they've done a pretty darn good job, honestly.

00:14:40.000 A lot of them have.

00:14:41.000 And so, we're supposed to just blame Whitey because 81% of the pilots are white. 0.60

00:14:46.000 How many times have we boarded an airplane, a little anxious, a little nervous?

00:14:49.000 It's a thunderstorm, and 81% of the time, there's a white man up there. 0.53

00:14:54.000 And I could say this as somebody who has flown millions of miles, 3,200 days on the road.

00:15:01.000 I have traveled the world, million-mile club on United and multiple millions on American Airlines.

00:15:07.000 Yes, at times there's a lot of complaints of the airlines, but the pilots have been excellent.

00:15:13.000 So, what is the problem we're trying to fix here exactly?

00:15:16.000 We're trying to just worship the cult of diversity, but it gets worse than that.

00:15:20.000 Why are more nurses and teachers female?

00:15:22.000 Is it because society is anti-male, or is it because women are drawn to this profession in greater proportion than men?

00:15:28.000 Every analysis we have of similar quota-based affirmative action programs results in lowering of standards in order to meet these goals.

00:15:34.000 This is important.

00:15:35.000 For example, if you looked at the Harvard admission standards, they had to lower very quietly their standards 20 to 30% for test scores for black students versus Asian and white counterparts.

00:15:49.000 The question that United Airlines has to answer, and they won't, will United Airlines lower the criteria for new pilot hires to meet their goals like Harvard did before they got caught.

00:16:00.000 We've largely also been a victim of our own success.

00:16:03.000 Praise God, in the last 25 years, we haven't had a major airline crash.

00:16:06.000 That is rare.

00:16:07.000 Airplane crashes happen frequently in Pakistan, India, and the third world.

00:16:11.000 We assume landing and flying planes is brainless, easy work.

00:16:15.000 It's not.

00:16:16.000 It's difficult.

00:16:16.000 It's high stakes.

00:16:17.000 It's intense.

00:16:18.000 It's a calling for someone to become a pilot.

00:16:22.000 You have to love it. 0.99

00:16:23.000 Of course, there are qualified black and female pilots.

00:16:27.000 And what I said, what I said on Thought Crime, and I will repeat what I said, I never challenged that.

00:16:32.000 But what DEI does is it introduces poisonous, toxic lines of thinking.

00:16:42.000 The point I was making is this, is it's condescending to qualified blacks.

00:16:47.000 It's condescending to qualified females.

00:16:51.000 What it does then is it forces questions that otherwise would not exist in a pure merit-based system. 0.75

00:16:59.000 For example, if United Airlines CEO said, we have the best pilots.

00:17:03.000 If they're black, if they're women, if they're Asian, if they're Indian, we have the best pilots.

00:17:07.000 Period.

00:17:09.000 I would never have this thought that I said on our show.

00:17:13.000 I said, because of DEI, it begs the question when you see a black pilot, you wonder, you say, I hope they are qualified. 0.97

00:17:24.000 I wouldn't think that if the CEO of United or these airlines would reject DEI and say excellence is the ultimate standard.

00:17:34.000 And finally, here is the question that United must answer, United Airlines.

00:17:41.000 If you have a very, very qualified white pilot and two somewhat qualified black pilots and your hiring class is at 49%.

00:17:53.000 And if you hire the two somewhat qualified black pilots, you reach your goal of 50%. 1.00

00:17:59.000 But the amazing top gun, square jaw, Tom Cruise guy would keep you at 49%.

00:18:07.000 Who do you hire, United?

00:18:09.000 Who do you hire?

00:18:11.000 That is a real question.

00:18:14.000 When you put diversity first, it means that you would not put ability first.

00:18:20.000 And I think we know the answer to that question.

00:18:23.000 The solution is get rid of all DEI in every form or fashion.

00:18:27.000 And the reason why we all get so worked up about the pilot example and with the surgeon example is that there's not a lot of room for error.

00:18:38.000 If there's diversity, equity, inclusion in the luggage department, that's frustrating.

00:18:42.000 If they lose your piece of luggage and they send it to Honolulu and you are going to New York.

00:18:48.000 But if there's diversity, equity, inclusion in the cockpit and otherwise qualified applicants were not hired because they don't look the right way, that is repulsive and the decline of civilization as we know it.

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00:20:14.000 Joining us now is Chip Roy.

00:20:16.000 Chip, welcome to the program.

00:20:18.000 Uh, Chip, you and I had some fun text message over the weekend, uh, but we won't get we won't get into that.

00:20:22.000 I have a lot of respect for you, Chip.

00:20:24.000 Chip, walk us through the Supreme Court decision and your now viral remarks where you say it's time for Texas to ignore the court and secure the border.

00:20:31.000 You have the floor, Chip Roy.

00:20:33.000 Hey, Charlie, great to be on, as always.

00:20:35.000 And like, I always enjoy our Texas changes, and you're always thoughtful about stuff, even when we disagree.

00:20:39.000 And, like, I'll tell you exactly what's going on.

00:20:41.000 I am in Brackettville, Texas right now.

00:20:43.000 I'm about to have a meeting with landowners and a bunch of the leadership and local law enforcement and folks that are leading in South Texas to get an update of what they're facing.

00:20:52.000 I'm not yet sure if I'm going to get to Eagle Pass.

00:20:53.000 I may.

00:20:54.000 I'm talking to some of the guys down there.

00:20:56.000 But the bottom line is: it is long past time for Texas to just go ahead and tell the federal government no.

00:21:02.000 I mean, if the federal government is not going to do their job, if they're going to expose the people of Texas to danger, fentanyl poisoning, the empowerment of cartels, terrorists coming across our borders, criminals coming across our borders, our ranchers, you know, fences getting out, their livestock getting out, and there's no end in sight, 10,000 a month.

00:21:19.000 It is absolutely absurd.

00:21:21.000 The numbers of gotaways are extraordinary.

00:21:23.000 We're bearing the brunt of it.

00:21:25.000 And now the Supreme Court comes in and says, and by the way, 5-4 decision with obviously John Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett siding with the leftists.

00:21:34.000 And they say, no, sorry, even though the Constitution says it's the federal government's job to take care of the border.

00:21:38.000 And even though the Constitution says states can repel invasion if the federal government fails to do it, they say, no, sorry, Texas, too bad.

00:21:46.000 You can't do that.

00:21:47.000 And we're going to allow the Border Patrol to get in there and cut razor wire.

00:21:50.000 Now, that was one decision.

00:21:52.000 As you know, you're a smart guy.

00:21:53.000 This still has to go back to the Fifth Circuit.

00:21:55.000 There's more to come.

00:21:57.000 But the state is right to proceed.

00:21:59.000 At the end of the day, their job is to secure this state and protect its people.

00:22:04.000 And if the federal government is failing, they've got to do it.

00:22:08.000 So, Chip, can you walk us through what the implications of that is?

00:22:08.000 Yeah.

00:22:13.000 And we don't say that lightly.

00:22:14.000 You and I love the law.

00:22:15.000 We respect our system of checks and balances.

00:22:18.000 In fact, we believe that this is actually the restoration of the rule of law, us suggesting this.

00:22:25.000 But this is certainly not a small move that you're recommending here.

00:22:30.000 Please continue.

00:22:31.000 Yeah, no, Charlie, this is exactly right.

00:22:33.000 I had a friend of mine from law school that I respect a great deal who pinged me and said, now, hold on a second.

00:22:38.000 I mean, I'm with you.

00:22:39.000 We should secure the border, but this is venturing down the direction of nullification and those kinds of concepts.

00:22:45.000 And, you know, this individual raised the question: said, well, hold on a second.

00:22:49.000 You think the heller opinion is good.

00:22:51.000 You think there's an individual right to bear arms and use those arms to protect yourself.

00:22:56.000 What if a state said, well, in order to protect our citizensry, we're going to ignore that court opinion.

00:23:00.000 We do not believe it's an individual right.

00:23:02.000 We believe it's a collective right.

00:23:03.000 Therefore, we're not going to respect it and we're going to, you know, take guns away or whatever.

00:23:07.000 All right.

00:23:08.000 Reasonable question, right?

00:23:09.000 You get it, Charlie.

00:23:10.000 Like it's an academic question, one you sit around and debate.

00:23:13.000 The response I give is the Constitution contemplated a federal government of limited enumerated powers and specifically said the federal government is supposed to manage those issues, but did in fact preserve the ability and the right of governors and states to protect their own citizensry in the absence of the protection of the federal government.

00:23:33.000 It's very specific.

00:23:34.000 In addition, just conceptually, okay, if you're at your house and it's being invaded and the Supreme Court ruled yesterday, you may not use a weapon to defend yourself and your family.

00:23:47.000 You must retreat and flee.

00:23:49.000 You cannot do it.

00:23:51.000 I'm here to say I would do it anyway.

00:23:54.000 My point is at some point, you have to recognize what our job is in reflecting our God-given rights, which the Constitution, the Bill of Rights does, a form of government that is decidedly built around empowering people and states and localities, not the federal government, to interfere.

00:24:12.000 And we've got to be able to hold the line.

00:24:14.000 I say this respectfully.

00:24:16.000 I say it with the fear of what I'm saying.

00:24:18.000 I do not want to live in a post-constitutional world, but this court is pushing our hand.

00:24:24.000 And the court needs to know that because John Roberts likes to go around to the cocktail set and say, hey, I came up with a tax idea instead of a mandate idea to save Obamacare.

00:24:34.000 I want them to feel the pressure because if they're political animals, they need to know it.

00:24:38.000 We were out there defending Amy Coney Barrett when her house was being protested.

00:24:42.000 We said that the law should be enforced to protect her.

00:24:45.000 Where is she when the people of Texas need to be protected?

00:24:48.000 Totally am I.

00:24:49.000 That is exactly right.

00:24:51.000 And so this is heavy stuff.

00:24:53.000 And I'll be honest, Chip, I was a little bit surprised that the governor of Abbott just continued forward.

00:25:02.000 That is uncharacteristic based on what I've seen from him previously.

00:25:06.000 He's a lawyerly guy.

00:25:08.000 He's very by the book.

00:25:10.000 That's not a by the book thing.

00:25:12.000 I completely support it.

00:25:13.000 I applaud it.

00:25:14.000 And can you help me understand that, Chip?

00:25:16.000 Is he banking on a decisive Fifth Circuit?

00:25:20.000 Is he signaling that the crisis is at such a fever pitch that since Texas was once a sovereign nation and can repel invasion, that Texas is going to take care of itself, even if the federal government says it can't?

00:25:35.000 I do not want to speak for Governor Abbott.

00:25:38.000 You know, we don't always agree, but we agree a lot on the basic operations of government and what we should do and shouldn't do.

00:25:44.000 He is very careful.

00:25:46.000 I say that respectfully, but also sometimes critically.

00:25:50.000 I believe that he is reaching the judgment that, look, you got to reach a sober judgment, right?

00:25:55.000 You know, when we want to say that we want our law enforcement in Texas to do the job of Border Patrol and go grab an illegal and remove that illegal and take them across into Mexico.

00:26:05.000 All right, I say that.

00:26:06.000 I believe it.

00:26:07.000 Governor Abbott, if he has to process that as the chief executive, he's the one that has to say to a DPS trooper, you're going to do this, but you may get sued.

00:26:19.000 You may get sued under federal law under 1983 or whatever for a civil rights violation.

00:26:24.000 You may get prosecuted by the federal government.

00:26:26.000 And then I'm left having to figure out how to defend that.

00:26:29.000 That is a heavy burden.

00:26:30.000 So I want to be very clear.

00:26:31.000 You're very thoughtful about this kind of thing.

00:26:33.000 We have to view this soberly about what we're talking about.

00:26:37.000 I want to preserve and protect the Republican form of government that our country is built upon.

00:26:42.000 And I want a strong America standing in front of the American flag.

00:26:45.000 But my first duty as an elected official is yes to the Constitution.

00:26:51.000 But my first duty is to make sure that I'm protecting and following my job to make sure our people are protected and secure and safe.

00:27:01.000 That's what leaders of a state, of a sovereign entity, have to be concerned about.

00:27:05.000 And so that's what we're up against.

00:27:07.000 So to answer your question, Governor Abbott sees what you see, what I see.

00:27:11.000 He sees terrorists.

00:27:12.000 He sees criminals.

00:27:13.000 He sees fentanyl.

00:27:14.000 And he sees a federal government not just failing, but purposefully refusing to carry out their duty to secure the border of the United States.

00:27:23.000 So I believe he's looking at that.

00:27:25.000 I can't predict what he's saying about the Fifth Circuit, but that's the truth.

00:27:28.000 Can you just riff on this?

00:27:30.000 Because the evil Marxist left, and I don't use those words lightly, it seems as if they found this loophole.

00:27:36.000 And the loophole is that as long as we control the cabinet agencies, we get to choose what laws we enforce and how enthusiastically we enforce them.

00:27:46.000 And it's almost a way to subvert and bypass.

00:27:49.000 It's a loophole of our constitutional system and order.

00:27:52.000 And then you guys do a good job.

00:27:54.000 I mean, you bring Majorkis, and I wish you would impeach him, but we'll get to that in a second.

00:27:58.000 You bring him in front, and then he just lies.

00:28:00.000 And he says, oh, no, we're enforcing the law.

00:28:02.000 And, you know, basically, what are you going to do about it?

00:28:04.000 He's almost taunting you, Chip, and you know it, because they want the border open.

00:28:09.000 And the way that they think they can do it is through controlling these cabinet secretaries and agencies.

00:28:15.000 And just so everyone's at home, if you haven't been following this, we did a whole show on it.

00:28:19.000 The Biden administration sued Texas so that they could keep the border open.

00:28:26.000 That was what the lawsuit was all about, saying, how dare you, Texas, get in our way to interfere with our open border agenda.

00:28:34.000 That is what the lawsuit was all about and to cut fences.

00:28:38.000 And so let's just talk about this for a second here, Chip.

00:28:42.000 I think it's very, very important, which is the cabinet secretaries.

00:28:46.000 They have found a workaround of the framer designed and framer-intended checks and balances where you have these cabinet secretaries that do whatever they want.

00:28:59.000 Yeah, I mean, this is actually a fundamentally important problem, right?

00:29:03.000 It's not just my orchestra, right?

00:29:06.000 We had the Supreme Court, the irony here, right?

00:29:08.000 The Supreme Court said you can't do what you're doing with respect to student loans, yet they're doing it anyway, right?

00:29:14.000 They are purposely ignoring the law on multiple areas under the various cabinet secretaries, Department of Justice and what they are doing, right?

00:29:24.000 They were obstructing justice with respect to Hunter Biden.

00:29:27.000 They were purposely using laws to target pro-lifers, right?

00:29:30.000 With under the FACE Act.

00:29:33.000 They are making a mockery of the law.

00:29:35.000 They're abusing the law to carry out their leftist ends.

00:29:38.000 And in this case, leave our border wide open.

00:29:41.000 And as you pointed out, Maorcas, he's doing it on purpose.

00:29:44.000 And he lied to us under oath famously.

00:29:47.000 Looking at me sitting in the Judiciary Committee, when I put the text of the law right in front of him, he boldly, brashly said, yes, we have operational control.

00:29:58.000 And I said, are you sure this statute right here?

00:30:01.000 Yes, we have operational control.

00:30:03.000 Then he went to another committee and said, well, no, I mean, not under that meaning of the definition, but that meaning was literally the statute I put right in front of him.

00:30:11.000 He knows what games he's playing.

00:30:13.000 It's purposeful.

00:30:14.000 And Charlie, you and I know why.

00:30:17.000 There are 50 million foreign-born people in this country.

00:30:21.000 They have something like 20 million children born to them.

00:30:25.000 This is the highest percentage in our history, even the late 19th century, right?

00:30:30.000 And the great immigration boom then.

00:30:33.000 This is higher at a time when we're not teaching our kids about Western civilization.

00:30:37.000 We're not teaching our kids our country is great.

00:30:39.000 We're not teaching our kids about the Constitution.

00:30:41.000 We're not praying in school.

00:30:43.000 You cannot have a country when you import the world and you no longer have a value set that you are having people assimilate to. 0.76

00:30:53.000 And that's what this is about.

00:30:54.000 It's purposeful.

00:30:55.000 It's purposeful for redistricting in the House.

00:30:58.000 And that's what we're up against.

00:31:00.000 Very good.

00:31:01.000 Chip, I know that you are right.

00:31:03.000 You're handling the border issue right now.

00:31:04.000 This is some heavy stuff, everybody.

00:31:06.000 And if the Biden regime continues to defy the law, then the moral answer is that the states and the citizens must do it.

00:31:14.000 It's a 10th Amendment answer. 0.88

00:31:15.000 Chip, thank you so much.

00:31:16.000 Hold the line.

00:31:17.000 We have your back.

00:31:17.000 Thanks so much.

00:31:18.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:31:19.000 I'll go see these great Texans.

00:31:20.000 I'll talk to you soon.

00:31:21.000 God bless.

00:31:22.000 Yeah, tell them I say hi and hold the line.

00:31:24.000 We have their back.

00:31:24.000 Help is on the way.

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00:32:19.000 Chicago is a great, once a great city, and now it's going into the suburbs.

00:32:24.000 So if you don't know Naperville, let me kind of give you a picture of Naperville, Illinois.

00:32:29.000 Naperville is an affluent suburb.

00:32:31.000 I believe it is in DuPage County, if I'm not mistaken, right near Bowlingbrook and Wheaton, very wealthy.

00:32:38.000 A lot of very well-accomplished people that live in Naperville, Illinois.

00:32:43.000 Great schools, state champions in football almost every other year.

00:32:46.000 They got Naperville North.

00:32:48.000 They got Niqua Valley, really good schools out there.

00:32:50.000 It was a money magazine top 50 suburb.

00:32:53.000 It's supposed to be the picturesque Chicago suburb.

00:32:57.000 American Dream in Naperville.

00:32:59.000 And a lot of my family is from that area and not too far from Naperville.

00:33:02.000 Beautiful spot.

00:33:03.000 The illegal crisis is so bad.

00:33:06.000 You now have members of the Naperville City Council saying, hey, can we get a sign-up sheet so that illegals can have a place to go?

00:33:15.000 Can we have a sign-up sheet?

00:33:17.000 Now, I have multiple takes on this.

00:33:20.000 First of all, I'll be curious who actually signs up.

00:33:25.000 I will be curious how many white liberals will allow third worlders into their mansions in Naperville. 1.00

00:33:35.000 I mean that non-sarcastically.

00:33:37.000 Listen to this CUT 118.

00:33:39.000 Well, you know, before we go down the road of, you know, doing what, you know, following suit on some of these other cities are taking action on, let's find out who's willing to help.

00:33:49.000 You know, so, you know, we do hear from constituents on both sides of this.

00:33:53.000 What are we going to do to preemptively stop this?

00:33:56.000 And then we hear from people that tell us we should do more.

00:33:58.000 You know, we do have a very affluent community, a lot of big homes.

00:34:03.000 And what I'd like to do is direct staff to create a sign-up sheet, you know, for individuals that would be willing to house migrant family.

00:34:13.000 And if there's people that would do that, God bless them.

00:34:16.000 So if we could raise awareness in that way, I think we need to find out.

00:34:21.000 I think we need to find out who would be willing to house migrant families. 0.51

00:34:26.000 Now, some people are attacking this guy for even suggesting it.

00:34:30.000 I'm a little more neutral on it.

00:34:32.000 In some ways, he's kind of calling the bluff of the political sentiment of Naperville.

00:34:37.000 And he's also just saying, look, I actually, I don't hate what he's saying.

00:34:42.000 Obviously, it's a big crisis, and he didn't even say we're going to force it if people want to sign up.

00:34:47.000 He's kind of saying the right thing.

00:34:48.000 And I don't know if he's a liberal or a conservative.

00:34:50.000 And his tone was actually great.

00:34:52.000 And we should have a heart for all people.

00:34:53.000 We should have compassion.

00:34:55.000 In some ways, I actually think this would redpill a lot of people of fighting age males.

00:35:00.000 You get this 19-year-old from Uzbekistan.

00:35:03.000 He just shows up and you're like, yeah, here's Khalid.

00:35:06.000 Like, oh, I thought I was getting like a migrant family. 1.00

00:35:09.000 I know, it's a 19-year-old from Uzbekistan.

00:35:12.000 We have no idea who he is.

00:35:15.000 What?

00:35:18.000 And so I don't hate that clip.

00:35:21.000 It does show, I'll be curious because a lot of the Naperville residents are up in arms over this.

00:35:27.000 They're furious that this city council member would even suggest this.

00:35:32.000 Naperville has become a Democrat stronghold.

00:35:36.000 It used to be a Republican stronghold.

00:35:37.000 It's now a Democrat stronghold.

00:35:39.000 Most of the left.

00:35:40.000 So, but what is it that you guys find so offensive about it?

00:35:44.000 And that's why I don't hate what the city council.

00:35:46.000 Some of the people on the right are attacking the city council person.

00:35:48.000 How dare you even suggest it?

00:35:49.000 He said, no, we could have a sign-up sheet.

00:35:51.000 He said, we have an affluent neighborhood.

00:35:53.000 Now, I don't know if this is what the city council member intended, but in some way, he's kind of calling the bluff.

00:35:59.000 It's easy to sit in your 6,000 square foot home in Naperville, vote Democrat, give money to BLM, and support open borders.

00:36:10.000 And you have a city council guy that says, well, we have a sign-up sheet.

00:36:13.000 You say, that's insane.

00:36:15.000 Well, why wouldn't you take them in?

00:36:16.000 I thought they're dreamers.

00:36:17.000 I thought they're wonderful.

00:36:18.000 I'm sure you guys have a spare bedroom.

00:36:21.000 Maybe the 19-year-old from Mexico can get to know your daughter, since diversity is our strength.

00:36:27.000 Would that not make you feel safe?

00:36:30.000 Having the 20-year-old guy from Nicaragua get to know your 16-year-old daughter?

00:36:35.000 If what I just said bothers you, then I'm proving the point.

00:36:39.000 So you're perfectly fine with them invading Texas and invading Arizona and invading the rest of the country.

00:36:46.000 But if you get up in arms, that a city council member rather soberly and I got to be in a neutral way says, hey, could we have a sign-up sheet?

00:36:54.000 And people are furious.

00:36:55.000 How dare you?

00:36:56.000 Solve this problem for me.

00:36:57.000 Don't bring them into my home.

00:37:00.000 And he even says, God bless you if you want to do it.

00:37:02.000 So I'm going to, I loved his tone.

00:37:04.000 I thought he was actually excellent in the way he did it.

00:37:06.000 I'm going to be keeping a close eye on this in Naperville.

00:37:10.000 How many people actually end up signing up?

00:37:12.000 Who knows?

00:37:14.000 Will people be safe signing up, bringing in these unchecked, unvetted people? 1.00

00:37:20.000 We don't know their backgrounds.

00:37:21.000 We know their public health history.

00:37:22.000 We shall see.

00:37:25.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:37:27.000 Email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

00:37:30.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:37:31.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 24, 2024

Why Does the Left Think A Pilot's Color Matters?

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