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00:01:09.000All right, without further ado, we have Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.
00:01:12.000He's a great, great senator out of the state of Oklahoma.
00:01:15.000And I just want to give you guys in the red state of Oklahoma a little kudos here, Senator.
00:01:20.000You guys have the lowest gas prices in the country, apparently.
00:01:24.000A buck 83 a gallon in some counties in the great state of Oklahoma.
00:02:38.000This is not what we're planning on talking about here, Senator, but you've got California has lost.
00:02:41.000There was a New York Post article that I was reading this morning.
00:02:44.000California has lost a trillion dollars of wealth.
00:02:48.000So Sergey Brin and all these other billionaires are fleeing the state.
00:02:52.000Peter Thiel, multiple others, opening up satellite offices in Texas and Tennessee and Florida because they're going to tax or they're proposing to tax the wealth.
00:03:04.000So and that could be unrealized gains as well on billionaires.
00:03:08.000So if you are on paper a billionaire, they're going to tax 5% of your wealth.
00:04:41.000All the other billionaires were bailing just before the new year because they have that initiated measure that might be on the ballot to do a retroactive wealth tax, a one-time billion in California.
00:05:05.000Hey, I have a guy, a friend of mine, and I won't mention his name, but he's just a southern Louisiana back roads swamp boy that has done very, very well at business investments.
00:06:07.000It's like right off the bat, you're saving yourself $7,500 to school.
00:06:11.000So totally off subject here, but just California, how they're aggressively going after everybody.
00:06:17.000My son back in 2020 had a brain injury, real bad to brain injury.
00:06:22.000We had to go through rehab and we had the only rehab center that was specialized in his cognitive rehabilitation was in Bakersfield, California.
00:06:32.000So I literally lived in an RV with my son on and off for 18 months.
00:06:36.000And I was talking about it at a, you know, either on, either on a show like this or TV or something.
00:06:42.000But anyways, California found out about it and they tried to charge me taxes.
00:06:46.000And I had to prove to them that I wasn't there consistently the whole time that I was leaving most weekends and going back home and that we were there for medical reasons, had to get literally doctor notes to keep me from having to pay income tax in California.
00:07:08.000So we're again, we did not plan on talking about any of this with the senator here because there's actual, we got a shutdown fighting in Iran.
00:07:45.000I don't give a damn if they burn down Target because Target should be on the streets with us calling for the justice that our people deserve.
00:08:44.000And my, you know, I still carried, I'm actually a card-carrying Cherokee, not like because I have high cheekbones, Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas.
00:08:54.000And so, but when she said Native Americans, I tell you what, first of all, very seldom all of us call us Native Americans.
00:09:23.000Regardless of what happened to us, we're not out there trying to have, you know, all trying to separate ourselves from someone else.
00:09:31.000Now, we are proud and proud to be Indian and we're proud of our tribes, but we fly the flag beside, you know, beside maybe our Cherokee flag along the way.
00:09:45.000But, you know, we're not out there carrying somebody else's flag or Somalian flags or Mexican flags.
00:11:05.000I literally stood up and walked out of his office, and that says a lot because I may be the second most arrogant, but he's the most arrogant.
00:11:15.000Well, we want him on our side with today's story.
00:11:18.000Yeah, we need him on the tariff ruling.
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00:14:03.000I mean, obviously, he's brilliant, but there's some very brilliant people out there that doesn't want to show how brilliant they are, but they can actually express it through humility.
00:14:19.000And that guy doesn't have the ability to do that.
00:14:23.000And for you to look at this case with transgender athletes in any other way, especially as a father of three, you know, three daughters who wrestle, that means they're in a combative sport.
00:15:10.000You don't have to say it, sir, but I hear it from everybody that you are playing this massive go-between role between the House and the Senate, and then even both legislative bodies in the White House.
00:15:20.000Can you shed any light on this Iranian potential strike versus diplomacy?
00:15:25.000By the way, the vice president's office wrote back and corrected the piece in the Wall Street Journal saying that Marco and JD are presenting a suite of options from military action to diplomacy.
00:15:35.000So they did correct the record there, but it was a lie from the go.
00:16:09.000And the president has made it very clear that he will be willing to protect the people of Iran if the murderous regime there in Iran decide they're going to kill people en masse.
00:16:24.000And what that mass number is, I don't know what the president's tolerance is.
00:16:27.000But I will tell you, the president doesn't bluff.
00:16:30.000And he's proven that he is not afraid of Iran.
00:16:35.000We've proven we have the capability to destroy their air defense system and to strike anytime and anywhere.
00:16:42.000And he made it very clear that he could have taken out the leadership if he wanted to, but he decided not to.
00:16:49.000And so I wouldn't be surprised if you see some military action in defense of the Iranian people.
00:16:57.000And I like to say this, in 1977 when I was born, Iran was a friend of us.
00:17:03.000In fact, they were probably more Western advanced in the United States than it was to accepting women and in workplaces and into government and actually into ethnic groups too.
00:17:19.000This current regime has destroyed all that.
00:17:22.000And we'd love to have a relationship back with the Iranian people.
00:17:26.000There was a lot of business relationships that was between Iran and the United States prior to 1979, the overthrow of Shah.
00:17:34.000And so I believe the president is actively looking at his position and what is the best way to support the people wanting to take back their country in Iran.
00:17:49.000Yeah, I mean, and listen, I just, you know, we obviously support the people of Iran.
00:18:26.000Maybe there's some stuff that, you know, off the books maneuvering behind the scenes that needs to happen with our special ops guys or whatever.
00:18:34.000I'm open to, I just, you know, I want to be cautious because regime change is messy.
00:18:39.000And it's proven in the Middle East more so than ever.
00:18:42.000But I will say there does seem to be a legitimate organic popular uprising.
00:18:47.000There is this, the son of the former Shah that seems like we had a guest on yesterday, Senator, that has a lot of support from the protesters movement.
00:18:55.000I have no idea if he has a majority of support within the country, but it does seem to indicate there are some elements that are aligning for a real massive change in Iran.
00:19:05.000Well, a regime change, this is much different than the regime change you saw underneath Secretary Clinton, who had the Arab Spring, which left the Middle East in complete disarray, versus what's happening in Iran.
00:19:19.000This is an organic group that has risen up.
00:19:21.000And when anytime you have these organic groups or someone, be it the Shah's son or not, there's a difference of opinions if he's popular or not popular.
00:19:30.000I'd say he's not actually that popular.
00:19:32.000But anytime you see a movement like this, leadership intends to move to the front.
00:19:38.000And this is the people, not the United States, trying to have regime change.
00:19:42.000This is the people that's having the regime change.
00:19:44.000We're there to support the people in the event that they start being slaughtered by their own regime.
00:19:51.000Now, to pivot back to Vice President JD Vance, I will tell you, there is no daylight.
00:20:00.000There's open discussions, but no daylight when a decision is made between the president and JD Vance.
00:20:08.000Marco and our Secretary Rubio and the Vice President have a great relationship, but they also have such a good relationship that they can have an open discussion.
00:20:18.000But when the decision is made, when the play call is made, they are together.
00:21:22.000President Trump walked into a catch-22 when taking office.
00:21:26.000Do nothing, and America would be staring at a ticking debt bomb, the kind of crisis that could cripple our future.
00:21:31.000Instead, he's taken action with strong policies to slow the train and buy us some time.
00:21:35.000But the effects of past administration spending are still working through the system and experts predict dramatic price increases and market uncertainty.
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00:22:19.000President Trump is fighting for America's future.
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00:23:00.000And then I, you know, trolling around Twitter yesterday and I see that the New York Times is claiming, Lee, that you have stopped considering lives saved when setting pollution limits and instead calculate only on the cost to businesses.
00:23:16.000And I love that on Twitter, it's now getting slapped with a community note because it's complete hogwash, but it's gone viral.
00:23:23.000Their tweet has 5.1 million views because they are lying to people, correct?
00:23:30.000Yeah, they like to write a headline like this to freak people out, to twist what would actually be accurate because they're trying to advance the narrative.
00:23:41.000And it's amazing how synced up they are with others in the left-wing media, congressional Democrats.
00:23:48.000All of a sudden, at once, they're all advancing a narrative that is 100% untrue.
00:23:54.000Of course, we are going to be considering to factor in the impact on lives when doing our job.
00:24:02.000Our core mission of EPA is protecting human health and the environment.
00:24:07.000But what we aren't going to do is just play along with whatever the left-wing strategy is of the day to try to advance Trump derangement syndrome at its highest level.
00:24:23.000For us, we've rejected the notion that in order to protect the environment, you have to destroy the economy.
00:24:30.000We inherited a mess on all sorts of different regulations that amounted to the trillions.
00:24:35.000We just saw some footage there of President Trump at a Ford factory in so many different ways.
00:24:41.000The Obama and Biden administrations with tailpipe emissions and electric vehicle mandates, working with blue states like California, have reduced consumer choice, have increased vehicle costs.
00:24:55.000And we inherited this mess and decided with this Trump mandate, President Trump winning all the battleground states, winning the popular vote, we're going to fix all of it at once.
00:25:06.000And whether it's sending to Congress the three Biden EPA waivers to California that gave them permission to do their electric vehicle mandate, which Congress then passed the resolutions to reject and President Trump signed.
00:25:20.000It's the change to cafe standards that you saw Secretary Duffy announce with President Trump at the Oval Office a few weeks.
00:25:27.000It's the proposed repeal of the 2009 endangerment finding and all of the greenhouse gas emissions and light, medium, and heavy-duty vehicles that followed and that start-stop, that annoying, almost universally hated start-stop feature on these cars that were getting rid of the off-cycle credits all in one proposal, which if finalized would be the largest act of deregulation in the history of the United States of America.
00:25:51.000We are going to push back on the left with their false narratives, their untruth, the mess of regulation that we inherited, and our goals to fix everything and to do it truthfully, promoting gold standard science and fulfilling that Trump mandate that the American public voted for.
00:26:09.000It just strikes me, the EPA, the right has always had to play in this unfair playing field where if you, the Biden administration or the Obama administration does something nut-so to pursue a political agenda, and then if you repeal it, you have this panic attack where it's, ah, they're rolling back the environmental.
00:26:27.000Well, that's exactly, I mean, exactly.
00:26:28.000That's God forbid we live in the 90s again.
00:27:23.000I just Googled it this morning in California, and you got a $1.83 in Oklahoma.
00:27:30.000Why are you calling, let's just say, garbage on this note from Governor Gavin Newsom?
00:27:37.000Yeah, because California could have lower gas prices if the left-wing Democrats who are destroying, pummeling that state into the ground would be advancing great energy policies like you're seeing in states where energy costs so much less, where it costs less to heat your home, to fill up your gas tank, where people are able to make their dollars stretch further because there are people in government at the state level who are advancing smart energy policies.
00:28:06.000But in California, Governor Newsom and the Democrats running the legislature have been beholden to the far left.
00:28:12.000Many of them are part of the far left, pandering the far left, and pushing these energy and environmental policies that are driving so many Californians to leave their state permanently for good.
00:28:23.000President Trump has been able to, through his policies, reduce gas prices to under $3 in 43 states across the country.
00:28:32.000And that is because of these people at the state level, in the capital of California, pushing these bad energy and environment policies.
00:28:42.000So yeah, I think that if those Democrats in California wanted to truly be part of the progress, maybe they would get the heck out of the way going forward rather than doing what they have been doing, creating a mess that's been increasing gas prices.
00:28:58.000And it's the reason why that list isn't 44 instead of 43 is because of these people who are bragging now and trying to take credit for the progress that President Trump has been delivering since the moment he came back into office.
00:29:20.000It's $1.40 above the national average.
00:29:23.000And you have Gavin Newsom taking a bow saying, look at what I've done in the state of California.
00:29:28.000Everybody with a brain knows this is because President Trump's policies, what you guys are doing at the EPA, it's just, I mean, you almost have to tip your hat at the brazenness of the lie.
00:29:39.000Like the fact that he's willing to do this on Twitter when he knows the administrator of the EPA is going to come out and knock him for it.
00:29:47.000Another question we have, Lee, here is that we're kind of looking at utility prices as well.
00:29:54.000Are we seeing those drop commensurate with the price of energy in other ways, like gas prices?
00:29:59.000Well, there's such a huge difference in red states and blue states.
00:30:03.000And we saw, for example, President Trump's been pushing this pipeline called Constitution Pipeline to deliver natural gas from Pennsylvania into New England.
00:30:14.000It would reduce our reliance on foreign sources of energy.
00:30:18.000It would make energy prices more affordable.
00:30:21.000And it's being blocked by the left wing.
00:30:26.000And you look at, you compare policies in red states where it costs so much less to heat your home than when you look at these Democrat-run states.
00:30:38.000You know, it's not like there's nothing else to it.
00:30:41.000No, it actually tells a pretty big story when you compare the price differential between the two states.
00:30:47.000Now, all across the entire country, the numbers were going up big time when President Biden was in office.
00:30:54.000The policies of his administration, all sorts of new regulations and favoring intermittent sources over baseload power, President Trump understands the need to ramp up baseload power in his country.
00:31:09.000He understands the need to unleash energy dominance.
00:31:12.000He wants to see more pipelines being built.
00:31:48.000Yeah, this is my question for you, Mr. Administrator.
00:31:52.000So you've got all these new data centers going up, right?
00:31:56.000We know that we need it to fuel the AI revolution.
00:31:59.000We know that President Trump and the administration, you guys at the EPA have made this a core tenant.
00:32:04.000We want to be the AI center, crypto center, but that takes a ton of energy.
00:32:09.000Are we worried that these new demands from these data centers, obviously Arkansas is a good example of it not being a concern, but because they're building capacity.
00:32:17.000But are we worried that these data centers are going to drive up prices for consumers at home?
00:32:25.000And when you reference that West Memphis, Arkansas example, you have a partnership with the state of Arkansas and Entergy, where the ratepayers end up receiving a net benefit, not a net cost, a net benefit because of that project.
00:33:03.000President Trump has saved plants that we're going to go under.
00:33:08.000And at EPA, we have been pushing forth regulatory proposals that would allow more plants to be built to streamline the process to make sure that it takes less time.
00:33:21.000There's more certainty when making this investment.
00:33:24.000See, when President Trump talks about trillions of dollars of new investment coming to this country, this isn't some hypothetical claim of something that might happen years from now.
00:33:35.000The ground is being broken all across America already of these massive new investments that are taking place.
00:33:43.000And we're just going to keep it going.
00:33:45.000We'll end up with more finalized deregulatory actions at one agency at the EPA in one year than entire federal governments have done in the past across all federal agencies across entire presidencies.
00:33:59.000We're finalizing deregulatory actions into the trillions of dollars.
00:34:08.000And we're going to continue to stay focused no matter what.
00:34:11.000You know, the New York Times or the Washington Post or any of these other left-wing outlets, no matter how much you might be upsetting some of the furthest left-wing Democrats in Congress, they are not going to bully and intimidate the Trump EPA out of doing the right thing to follow through on this deregulatory pledge to the American public to grow the economy.
00:36:45.000So Alito says, what does it mean to be a man or a woman, a boy or a girl?
00:36:51.000ACLU says, we do not have a definition for the court.
00:36:55.000You know, it reminded me because you told me this in the break, and I was like, this is why Charlie was so good.
00:37:01.000He just stuck on this question again and again and again because he knew it fried a liberal brain.
00:37:07.000It actually short circuits a lot of their imagine if they just had to go, imagine if they tried to run past Alito with a, well, if you define as a woman, then you're a woman.
00:37:17.000Yeah, well, I'm feeling very negative about the Supreme Court currently because I'm expecting them to come down against Trump's tariffs.
00:37:25.000And then we have Senator Mark Wayne Mullen saying some not nice things about Neil Gorsuch, Justice Gorsuch.
00:37:32.000And then you've got, you know, Amy Coney Barrett is basically saying similar, like calling them trans girls.
00:37:41.000There's this trans girl stuff is it's not a good start.
00:37:45.000It's not a good start that they're actually misrepresenting the sex of the children involved.
00:37:52.000It's interesting that Kavanaugh does seem the most on our side because Kavanaugh was annoying in that, I can't remember the name of it, but the gay rights case that was during the Trump first admin.
00:38:14.000And then in the ruling, he says, I ruled against this, but I want to applaud you guys because you've made a lot of progress over the last few years.
00:38:35.000Overall, but I don't think people have reacted to him by going, wow, he's way more conservative than we anticipated.
00:38:42.000And it must be because he's basically gone the problem.
00:38:44.000The problem with the Supreme Court right now is that Trump's first term, we have some kind of, they're not swings and misses, but they're not dominant, right?
00:39:14.000And the trouble is, what I've heard, I remember speaking with someone who knew the court well, and the problem was like Alito and Thomas, they both kind of react to the vibe around them.
00:39:25.000They get depressed when it's a liberal presidency and if they feel outnumbered on the court.
00:39:32.000But when they don't feel outnumbered, when they're getting good cases, they get excited and they enjoy being a justice and then they're less likely to retire.
00:39:40.000And that's a bother because it has to be said.
00:39:46.000It would strategically be sound for him to retire now rather than, I mean, even if he were to wait another year, if we've lost the Senate through some fluke or if it's a one, you know, one vote margin, then they could conceivably stonewall.
00:40:20.000Let's play a clip here from Alito questioning this Kathleen Martinetti, the attorney arguing before the Supreme Court case, I think on behalf of trans sports rights or whatever.
00:40:33.000That has a boys, let's say, track team and a girls' track team.
00:40:40.000A student who has the genes and the reproductive system of a male and had those at birth and has never taken puberty blockers, never taken female hormones, never had any gender altering or affirming surgery says, nevertheless, I am a woman.
00:42:28.000We need to be thinking about what are the other issues that we're looking towards.
00:42:33.000And so, for example, now it's a much bigger deal.
00:42:35.000You have to have justices who are ready to overturn the DEI regime, the anti-you know, anti-white, anti-male discrimination stuff, really enforce that stuff.
00:42:46.000And you have to make sure you're getting justices who will be skilled at that and also skilled at the coalition building aspect of it.
00:42:52.000And I talk to people who are clerks, lawyers, and they have a lot of interesting takes on this because there are judges who might be really good on the ideology stuff, but they alienate people.
00:43:04.000And then there are judges who are good on the ideology stuff, but they're also very good at that backroom dealing stuff.
00:43:09.000And it's very interesting to talk to them.
00:43:11.000Yeah, you have a lot of connections within this area.
00:43:16.000You're always talking to clerks and you back channel with a lot of these people.
00:43:20.000I think there, I will tell you, not too long ago, I was back east.
00:43:24.000I was in DC and I was meeting with some people that this is all they focus on is picking and sifting through the potential nominees for a next Supreme Court justice.
00:43:34.000And there's already names being floated, they're being vetted right now, I'm telling you.
00:43:38.000So there's work being done, and there's a lot of disagreement about who's going to be the best, who's going to be the right pick.
00:43:44.000But it's very possible that Trump will have another pick or potentially two.
00:43:48.000We might have a majority Trump chosen Supreme Court, and it would be a huge miss if that's not an amazing Supreme Court.
00:43:54.000There's a lot of people that don't want it to just go through the Federalist Society again.
00:43:58.000So that's a whole can of worms for another day.