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00:02:00.000And especially if you live, we have Lee Zeldin coming in just a second.
00:02:03.000If you have, if you live in Nevada, if you live in Arizona, and if you live in Georgia, why are those three states especially important for voter registration?
00:02:14.000Because there are a lot of people that leave prior states and move to those states.
00:02:59.000When you see a poll that comes back in a state like Nevada that says that we're up by two points, maybe we're not actually up by two when you factor in The increase of early voting, the increase of ballot harvesting.
00:03:11.000If we are not good with the mechanics of winning an election, these polls can be deceiving.
00:03:16.000You take a state like Pennsylvania, with the universal mail-in balloting, if we don't heavily lean into these laws that are on the books, by the time we get to election day on November 5th, we will have already lost Pennsylvania.
00:03:29.000Not just the Electoral College votes for the presidency, it's a key Senate race, targeted House seats.
00:03:35.000So in these states, when there's a proposal to change a law that we fundamentally disagree with, we should, as strongly as we can, passionately advocate for that change to not be made.
00:03:47.000But once the law is actually changed, we need to beat the Democrats at their own game to Do ballot harvesting better than the Democrats do to the point that they regret legalizing it in the first place?
00:04:00.000We can lose this year's election on mechanics.
00:04:04.000And for anyone out there who thinks that this is red wave, red tsunami, that their optimism is an excuse for inaction, we will end up getting burned so badly and there will be concession speeches being delivered on the right that you don't want to see happen.
00:04:19.000So pretend every poll shows that we're behind no matter what.
00:04:22.000But to your point, we need to very heavily lean into the mechanics of winning a campaign.
00:04:27.000Lee, can you talk about in New York, about how in certain congressional districts, and California as well, where local activists realized that there was no choice but to play in voting month, actually resulted in certain Republicans winning in these contentious districts.
00:04:45.000Do we have evidence of where we can win by using these tactics?
00:04:52.000In 2022, we saw it in the blue states.
00:04:55.000Where we had a heavy Biden over Trump margin of two years earlier, there were Republican wins.
00:05:05.000As a matter of fact, in New York, there were six Republican freshmen who were elected in districts that Joe Biden had won in 2020.
00:05:12.000And it's outside of the city in these suburbs.
00:05:16.000We were flipping seats on Long Island, in the Hudson Valley, around Syracuse, and that's using the New York example, and in other states as well.
00:05:26.000Winning campaigns, not by what we are saying we are against—yes, it's important to outline contrast and what's wrong with Joe Biden and the Democrats—but telling voters what they are investing in, what we stand for, is key.
00:05:39.000And then also, not resting until every last ballot is not just cast but counted.
00:05:45.000Fighting until the finish is important.
00:05:49.000So what I would say is this, inside of blue states where you feel like maybe it's too uphill to win the presidency, I would fight as hard as you can anyway and do as well as you can, but these down ballot opportunities in every state across America, we will determine whether or not there's a Republican House or a Democratic House.
00:06:11.000There's going to be Republican wins in deep red states that we know for certain now are on the way.
00:06:18.000But there are some of the best opportunities for Democrats to win back the majority, not in the reddest of states, but some of their best opportunities are inside of the bluest of states.
00:06:28.000Yes, mechanics proved to be successful in 2022.
00:06:31.000They are going to be key inside of these states to defend these seats in 2024.
00:07:17.000Honestly, if you're looking for a job right now and you're willing to dedicate the next few months, sign up today to go knock on doors for the rest of this campaign.
00:07:29.000If you are willing to leave your job and be able to work a job over the next few months.
00:07:35.000Of knocking on doors, getting involved at the grassroots level.
00:07:39.000This partnership that we have seen with Turning Point, America First Works, other groups that are out there that are talking about ramping up key efforts for getting out the vote, it's critical.
00:07:53.000We need people to go to DonaldJTrump.com and sign up and give $5 today.
00:07:58.000Go join President Trump's grassroots team.
00:08:01.000We need everybody working together in a way that we have not seen on the right in a very long time.
00:08:07.000We hear stories of A coalition that came together when President Reagan was running in the 80s.
00:08:12.000This is our moment of this generation in 2024 to do it for the first time since then.
00:08:18.000And the stakes have never been any higher.
00:08:21.000And learn about the laws in your particular state.
00:08:24.000We need people to sign up to be poll workers, to be poll watchers.
00:08:28.000We need volunteers to be able to closely observe their signature verification in states.
00:08:33.000And you can file objections We need lawyers to step up and be willing to volunteer their services and possibly get paid if that's necessary, too.
00:08:44.000We need everybody stepping up, and it needs to start now because, as you pointed out, the election isn't on November 5th.
00:08:50.000The election starts right after Labor Day, and I know this is something that Turning Point has been focusing on very successfully, This is so important, everybody.
00:08:59.000This election will be won or lost on process.
00:09:01.000voters who are out there and also the no propensity voters, the people who haven't voted at all and
00:09:07.000advocate and get them involved in a way that they haven't been even in the last presidential race.
00:09:12.000This is so important everybody. This election will be won or lost on process.
00:09:18.000We are not equipped right now to play with the Democrats on process. We're doing our best.
00:09:23.000Lee Zeldin is doing a lot with America First Works.
00:09:25.000We are registering voters every single day.
00:09:41.000Now Donald Trump is able to outperform polls too, so maybe it will even itself out, but Look what happened to John Fetterman, who is basically brain dead, who beat a great candidate, Dr. Oz, because we did not have any sort of apparatus, any sort of machinery in Pennsylvania.
00:09:57.000Every one of you can be the citizen force.
00:10:03.000Hey there, investing feels overwhelming right now, doesn't it?
00:10:06.000So complicated, so many decisions, but leaving your money in the bank, not so great.
00:11:47.000However, There is a lot going on right now inside the Democratic Party to replace him.
00:11:53.000It seems like there's the most amount of noise about coalescing behind Kamala Harris as the alternative, but that is also a decision by the Democratic Party to make Kamala Harris their standard bearer for what they would hope to be the next eight years.
00:12:10.000And Joe Biden picked the maybe only person in America who is incapable of Upstaging him over the course of his term as president.
00:12:20.000So to say that Joe Biden should be replaced by somebody who hasn't warned the public of what was clearly a massive decline in President Biden's abilities, we have seen Kamala Harris making her own mistakes, and she is further to the left than Joe Biden is.
00:12:43.000And I think that she would get hit hard and effectively quickly and be exposed as the unlikable, unfavorable alternative.
00:12:53.000So I don't see the ticket getting any stronger if they make that move.
00:12:57.000And it's not an easy thing for them to be able to pull off.
00:13:00.000So as of right now, if you gave me a dollar and I had to put it down somewhere, I would say it's on Biden staying.
00:13:06.000But we'll see because there's a lot of growing pressure for him to step aside.
00:13:11.000So on this program, we are resolutely pro-Israel, and we believe that Israel is going to play a big role in this election.
00:13:19.000Lee, do you think that there is movement or opportunity to do better with Jewish Americans, specifically in the battleground states or New York or other places, given the recent fallout post-October 7th?
00:13:33.000I mean, what we see with the anti-Semitism growing on the streets, inside of schools, in the halls of government, where people like Rashida Tlaib and Ilan Omar are given power, where there's access for others like Linda Sarsour, where you have Jewish students who are unable to be able to get to their class, blocked from a library because they are Jewish.
00:13:57.000And additional crimes being committed, by the way, it's one thing to talk free speech,
00:14:00.000and we have different opinions on important topics, but we're talking about all sorts of
00:14:05.000additional crimes that go way beyond the limits of protected free speech. So for these long-time
00:14:11.000Democratic voters who care deeply about certain issues that have emerged right now, aside from
00:14:19.000this, whether you care about having more prosperity for yourself, for your country,
00:14:24.000more safety for yourself and your community, if you want to have a more secure border for
00:14:29.000your nation, and now on top of it all, you You see what's happening over in Israel and how it's come back here at home.
00:14:37.000You're watching what just happened with elections in the UK where people are being rewarded for power, a party that has embraced individuals like Jeremy Corbyn and others.
00:14:48.000In the UK or in France, where you have seen people winning elections of a party that has been embracing this movement that is increasing global anti-Semitism.
00:14:59.000At this moment, if you decide to put loyalty to the Democratic Party above these issues that are most important to you as an American, you as a voter, as a husband or a father or whatever, You have to, at this particular moment, make that decision that there are these issues that transcend blind partisan loyalty.
00:15:20.000You need to step up at this moment and do what you believe is the right thing for the future of our country, and I think it's an opportunity for Jewish Americans to say enough is enough.
00:15:30.000Those who are using October 7th as a rallying cry, those who are using Iran's attacks on Israel as a rallying cry, and taking over buildings and destroying lives, enough is enough.
00:15:43.000There's a most powerful message that can be made with your voice, with your vote, by doing something different.
00:15:48.000And voting for a pro-Israel, pro-Jewish conservative in President Trump, who showed from his policies to move the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal, to sign the Taylor Force Act into law, to recognize Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, an executive order to combat anti-Semitism on college campuses.
00:16:09.000We should be voting for President Trump this November 5th.
00:16:12.000And to your point, understanding this election starts after Labor Day.
00:16:17.000We're going to have you come to Scottsdale.
00:16:19.000There's a significant Jewish community here that typically votes center-left, but they're moving, and I think that doing an event with you would be really powerful to get the message out.
00:16:29.000There's a remarkable amount of swing state Jewish Americans, and they vote in huge numbers, as you well know.
00:16:36.000And traditionally, the left, we need to change that.
00:17:14.000And Tyler and Andrew and your whole team is fantastic.
00:17:17.000So, but yeah, this has been just an absolute blast for me.
00:17:20.000I'm flying very close to the sun here, Charlie, because I think I'm the
00:17:23.000person on the right who's been the most vocal that Joe Biden, under no
00:17:27.000circumstances, would ever exit the race.
00:17:29.000So I'm really right on the edge here, but I still back that claim.
00:17:32.000There's just simply nothing in his character that's ever suggested that he would be willing to step aside.
00:17:38.000And none of the major voices that could potentially push him out or convince him to step down have stepped up because most of those voices are in his family.
00:17:48.000You might have saw his speech today or his call-in to Morning Joe talking about how he is contempt for the elites and how he's not listening to the elites.
00:17:58.000He doesn't see himself as an elite, even though he's been partially running the country for the last 50 years.
00:18:02.000He looks at his family, and unless they're going to step up and say, hey, dude, you got to get out of here, His inclination is going to be to stay in the race.
00:18:27.000The people who want him out are people who have an ulterior motive.
00:18:31.000And until something breaks in that tiny core group of people, he's here and he's probably going to go down bigly.
00:18:38.000So Alex, I want to zero in on one thing you said here.
00:18:40.000There's nothing in his past that shows that he will go away.
00:18:45.000I've heard this from another New York Times reporter I was talking to over the weekend, and I don't think this story has been told enough publicly, at least recently.
00:18:53.000I never thought of Joe Biden as being as stubborn as a mule.
00:18:56.000I thought of him as being a lot of things, of being craven and being opportunistic and ambitious.
00:19:03.000But he is headstrong, willful, almost obstinate.
00:19:12.000He should not have won his first Senate seat back in the 70s.
00:19:15.000He won that seat probably because the mafia got involved and it was a huge upset.
00:19:20.000He should have died during the 1988 presidential campaign that he ran.
00:19:23.000He had two aneurysms in his brain, and because his campaign was so anemic and he couldn't stop plagiarizing, it ended very quickly.
00:19:30.000If he had had any momentum on that campaign, and he actually ran for an extended period of time, he probably would have died.
00:19:36.000He probably should have lost in 2020 if he was ever going to run.
00:19:39.000He really wanted Beau Biden to be president, even more than himself, even though, of course, he always wanted to be president.
00:19:44.000Beau had died, and then he decided to run.
00:19:46.000I can't believe he won that race because the Democrats were totally incompetent, and he only beat Trump because of the pandemic, the coronavirus, etc.
00:20:03.000He's thought his whole life that he's been overachieving, that he's been overcoming obstacles, that the media has never helped him, that the so-called people in the know have never helped him, and he's ended up helping them.
00:20:15.000And here's the biggest tell for me, Charlie, and I think you'll probably agree with this.
00:20:19.000Other than the fact that she has all these woke points, one of the major reasons Kamala Harris was Joe Biden's choice as vice president is because she's too stupid and incompetent to surpass him.
00:20:29.000He's a genius compared to Kamala Harris.
00:20:58.000She's still, Is holding on to this resentment that you called my husband a racist in a Democrat primary debate because of busing or something a couple years ago that no one really remembers at all.
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00:22:15.000So Joe Biden believes it's always been Joe Biden versus the world.
00:22:18.000His political career has seemed dead multiple times.
00:22:21.000You mentioned the aneurysms and then Barack Obama brought him back to relevancy in 2008.
00:22:27.000And he just kind of stumbled into the White House after finishing fifth in Iowa and six in New Hampshire.
00:22:35.000Does Joe Biden have a point in the sense where Joe Biden is at his best when the odds are stacked against him?
00:22:42.000Or is Father Time going to win this one?
00:23:17.000So I mean, it was, he, so Joe technically did better.
00:23:20.000So it was kind of surprising he couldn't rally and they couldn't inject him with enough stuff to get him up for the debate and that he totally airballed it.
00:23:43.000And step number one is he doesn't want to stand aside.
00:23:46.000So help me then understand if he's at his best when his back's against the wall, what do you have to then say about the timing of the debate?
00:24:01.000What was Joe Biden and his mafia thinking about doing this early summer debate?
00:24:06.000Because Alex, I mean, you're in conservative media, and We're leading up to this.
00:24:11.000We said this is going to go one of two ways.
00:24:12.000Joe Biden's going to combust and they're going to turn the Democrat Party into turmoil.
00:24:16.000They're going to pull him or he's going to narrow the race and rally.
00:24:19.000We kind of saw it very clearly because we follow this so closely.
00:24:22.000The media's response and surprise is something we can explore.
00:24:27.000But what was Joe Biden thinking and what was his team thinking?
00:24:31.000Well, I think you saw eventually when they settled on some more productive talking points other than just the bed wetting and the diaper filling that we saw in the immediate aftermath, they started to pan it off as there's still four more months to go, it's early, it's still the summer, and I think that they had planned on playing that card if it didn't go great.
00:24:51.000Now, it went so badly that sort of seems Seems like it was a bad bet, but I'm guessing that was their calculus.
00:24:58.000A lot of people think it was because if he did so badly, they'd have time to kick him off the ballot.
00:25:03.000I think that's proven to be false because he did as bad as possible.
00:25:06.000It was the worst debate performance in American history.
00:25:08.000So if the intention was to remove him, then he'd be gone by now because every day he's still on the ballot is a detriment to whoever the ultimate candidate is.
00:25:19.000So clearly that wasn't the plan, like some people theorized.
00:25:22.000So I think they think he could recuperate.
00:26:20.000And maybe the next debate, Joe Biden overperforms expectations and You know, they get the chemistry right in the drugs that they give him and he does okay.
00:26:29.000And all of a sudden he's the comeback kid and he has a little bit of momentum in mid-September.
00:26:39.000Alex, I made a joke this morning that the New York Times is actually harsher on Joe Biden right now than Breitbart.com.
00:26:45.000What is going on at the top levels of the media regime right now?
00:26:50.000Yeah, so what's happening with the media, and this is a great question because it's another thing people forget, is that Joe Biden has hated the media since 1974.
00:26:58.000He did an interview in 1974 with a reporter named Kitty Kelly for The Washingtonian, where he came off as this lunatic pervert in the wake of his wife, Nelia, passing away in a car accident, as well as his first daughter.
00:27:11.000And Joe hated the way this turned out so much, and he regarded himself as a sucker for listening to the media and doing the interview.
00:27:18.000He didn't do another interview, Charlie, for almost 15 years, which sounds impossible in our modern-day social media age.
00:27:25.000I mean, Trump has basically confined himself to true social for the last week and a half, so everyone's acting like he disappeared off the face of the earth.
00:27:31.000I mean, you may have noticed that this morning, that that's what people are doing.
00:27:34.000Joe didn't do an interview for a decade and a half.
00:27:36.000So, guy hates the media and always has.
00:27:39.000And so, because of that, the media has not enjoyed access to the Democrat president the same way they did under Barack Obama and the same way they will the next time a Democrat ever wins the White House.
00:27:48.000So, they saw their opportunity to try to move this guy along.
00:27:51.000And they played along with him because, ideologically, they're simpatico.
00:27:56.000But overall, Joe hates the media and vice versa.
00:28:26.000And Joe Biden declaring war on the news media and the elites.
00:28:32.000I was saying when he called in the morning, Joe, he's doing his best Trump impersonation, calling in to a non-planned and non-scheduled cable news program in the morning, attacking the media, attacking the elites, saying, I'm not going anywhere, I'm going to win.
00:28:48.000I will say this, the iron law of modern politics is the rules of Trump do not apply to other candidates.
00:28:55.000So Alex, am I hearing you correctly that unless he has a break and ends up in a wheelchair, he is going to ride this all the way through with defiance, with anger, and It makes you wonder, is that the best way to win an election?
00:29:17.000It's not the best way to win an election, and it is going to take some sort of a miracle for him to win the election, in my opinion.
00:29:23.000Now, I think those of you at home, I'm not a Wrestling with Laurels guy.
00:29:26.000We need to fight for every last solitary vote, and if you're not doing that, then you honestly don't take this country seriously.
00:29:32.000So, take that into consideration, that we cannot act like this thing is over.
00:29:37.000Yeah, if his jaw falls out of his head the next time he goes to give a speech, it's impossible to see that he could win an election or even potentially stay as the nominee.
00:29:48.000But as of now, if they can just put a kickstand underneath him, there is nothing to indicate from my vantage point that he's going anywhere.
00:29:56.000I think the math is just clearly there.
00:29:58.000I laid it out in the last segment, but truly that is his hard wiring.
00:30:03.000And until someone makes the case that the next candidate will have a better chance of preserving his legacy, to preserving down ticket members in Congress, that they will do better.
00:30:15.000No one's even making that case because they don't know if that's true.
00:31:28.000And I just, the, the question is, is there ever a point where they pull it and maybe not your president, you have staff that tells you literally instructions, walk on up to the podium, go on up to the podium and give speeches.
00:31:59.000And unless you're seeing one of them step up and say, you got to go, then again, these are the people who deserve the blame.
00:32:06.000If we get saddled with Joe Biden again, look at those three people more than anyone else, because they're the ones that have the best shot of convincing Joe that he's got to go.
00:32:13.000So if he's in it, Valerie, Jill, Hunter, those are the names you got to know.
00:32:25.000I spent a year and a half researching Joe Biden so that I could give you guys everything you need to know about him.
00:32:30.000I took him as seriously as possible, which some days was very easy.
00:32:33.000Some days it was really hard to do that.
00:32:35.000But I think it's a comprehensive book that gives you all the arguments you need to go through the next four or five months in this country.
00:32:40.000So thank you so much for all your promotion of it, Charlie.