The Charlie Kirk Show - Why the Church is Still the Answer—LIVE at Valley Assembly Church in Spokane

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00:00:57.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:59.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:01:01.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:04.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:07.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:08.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:09.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:01:11.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:18.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:27.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:30.000 What a warm welcome.

00:01:31.000 Wow.

00:01:31.000 Thank you.

00:01:32.000 That was amazing.

00:01:33.000 I wish that would happen on Sunday morning every once in a while.

00:01:37.000 Amen.

00:01:38.000 So a couple things.

00:01:39.000 You have a new book out called The College Scam.

00:01:41.000 I do.

00:01:42.000 Yes.

00:01:42.000 It's an amazing book.

00:01:44.000 I know you're going to plug it later, but I just want to tell you we have copies for you.

00:01:48.000 Take it, get it, hold of it, and he'll give you all the details in just a few moments.

00:01:53.000 I thought we'd start out by you introducing your wife.

00:01:53.000 Yeah.

00:01:56.000 She's right here.

00:01:57.000 Stand up, Erica.

00:01:59.000 Yeah.

00:02:06.000 Now you have a new baby.

00:02:07.000 We do.

00:02:08.000 Tell us about that.

00:02:09.000 Oh, I mean, it changes your whole life.

00:02:11.000 It's incredible.

00:02:12.000 Erica did so amazing 10 weeks ago.

00:02:15.000 We're at nine and a half, nine and a half weeks.

00:02:15.000 Is that right?

00:02:18.000 And we're just so blessed.

00:02:20.000 And it really gives you a whole nother level of commitment to the fight.

00:02:26.000 Because I tell you, when you look into the next generation and you see what these bad guys want to do to kids and young people across the country, yeah, it makes you want to go Old Testament really quickly.

00:02:38.000 I'll tell you what.

00:02:44.000 So Charlie, I happen to have four kids and a grandkid.

00:02:46.000 And I'll just tell you, you're in the easiest part right now.

00:02:50.000 There's going to come a season where you just want to put them in a box and then open the box up later and say surprise.

00:02:55.000 So what I thought we would do for our time of discussion is I wanted to take a big 40,000 view of globalism versus nationalism.

00:03:04.000 And then I want to boil that down to the local level.

00:03:07.000 And there's a reason why I want to do that.

00:03:09.000 I've been involved lately in our community.

00:03:12.000 And as I've been involved in the community, and now they've identified me with you, I've had this number one question.

00:03:17.000 Brian, are you a Christian nationalist?

00:03:21.000 And so I was like, at first, I was like, I'm a Christian that lives in a nation.

00:03:26.000 I'm a Christian that lives in a nation that believes that we have borders.

00:03:29.000 But I wasn't sure why you gave me that title indirectly.

00:03:32.000 So I thought you could explain Christianity.

00:03:35.000 They tied us together.

00:03:37.000 And so, first of all, thank you for wonderfully hosting us.

00:03:39.000 This is amazing.

00:03:40.000 I love this part of the world, you guys.

00:03:43.000 I love Spokane.

00:03:46.000 I love Court d'Alane.

00:03:47.000 I'm sure we have some people from Idaho here.

00:03:48.000 It's great.

00:03:49.000 Love Idaho.

00:03:50.000 We're going to talk about Idaho in a little bit, by the way, later on in the conversation.

00:03:53.000 So look, this is meant to be a slur.

00:03:56.000 It's meant to be a pejorative.

00:03:57.000 It's meant to scare people.

00:03:59.000 Like, oh, you're a Christian nationalist.

00:04:00.000 And so let's slow down and talk about the terms.

00:04:03.000 First of all, Christian.

00:04:05.000 Oh, yes, I'm a Christian, and I'm proud to be a Christian.

00:04:08.000 I'm thankful to be a Christian.

00:04:10.000 And we should never enter a place where anyone is afraid to talk about their faith and talk about what Jesus means to them.

00:04:17.000 And, you know, being a Christian in modern America, it's as if you're allowed to have certain Christian views, but you can't even comment about politics.

00:04:24.000 Now, they've added that extra word nationalist because they're trying to fear-monger people to say, Well, they're going to impose all their morality on you.

00:04:33.000 Like, hold on, slow down.

00:04:34.000 Let's talk about what a nationalist.

00:04:35.000 The nationalist is, it's this simple: someone who loves their country, appreciates their history, understands their culture, and wants that country to continue to exist and thrive for their kids and grandkids.

00:04:47.000 That is a very simple, and by the way, that's a moral good.

00:04:53.000 So, you put those two words together, Christian nationalist.

00:04:55.000 I accept both.

00:04:56.000 Now, what they're trying to say, though, is they're trying to say, Those Christians are going to take over our government and destroy separation of church and state.

00:05:03.000 Like, hold on a second.

00:05:04.000 Separation of church and state is not in the Constitution, it's not in the Declaration, it's not in the Federalist Papers.

00:05:10.000 It's written by a single letter by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Convention, where he was actually giving an assurance to the Danbury Baptist Convention that the government would not come after them.

00:05:21.000 Now, this was then used by the Warren Court and the Burger Court in the 1960s and 70s to get rid of prayer in schools.

00:05:27.000 We never should have got rid of prayer in schools.

00:05:29.000 It was one of the worst decisions ever made.

00:05:32.000 By the way, it wasn't even a Christian prayer that got removed from schools by the Supreme Court, it was a very universalist theist prayer.

00:05:40.000 However, they're always going after separation of church and state, and they're trying to fear-monger to people that might be in the middle or independents.

00:05:47.000 But hold on a second, let's pretend separation of church and state was the law of the land.

00:05:51.000 Let's accept the bad premise.

00:05:53.000 Let's act as if that is true.

00:05:55.000 Then, why on earth was the state able to come into the church during the lockdowns?

00:06:02.000 Why was the government able to say that churches are not essential?

00:06:06.000 I thought they're supposed to be separate.

00:06:08.000 Oh, wait, so you could say a strip club is essential and the church is not.

00:06:12.000 You could take Easter and Pentecost away from us.

00:06:14.000 You could make a liquor store, Walmart, Home Depot remain open, or abortion factories continue.

00:06:19.000 But if you want to spread the word of God, we're going to shut you down, fine you, and make you wear masks.

00:06:23.000 Oh, no, it's not separation of church and state.

00:06:25.000 It's we want Christians to stay in their corner.

00:06:28.000 That's what this is all about.

00:06:30.000 And so, it's a mass fear-mongering campaign that we as Christians should not accept debate.

00:06:34.000 Do not take the bait.

00:06:36.000 This is very, very important.

00:06:37.000 And guess what?

00:06:37.000 You know why they have to use these pejoratives and these slanders and these slurs?

00:06:41.000 Because they've done the math.

00:06:42.000 They know that even 10%, 15%, 20% more Christians got serious about their nation.

00:06:48.000 All of a sudden, the tables will be turned on these people overnight, and they'll be driven out of power quicker than you could imagine.

00:06:55.000 And so, they're trying to make you seem fearful to be engaged in politics, engaged in local government.

00:07:00.000 So, Christian, yes, nationalist, yes.

00:07:03.000 The way I describe it, I accept the label.

00:07:09.000 So, I think you did it a little bit more polite than I did.

00:07:12.000 I said, So, you must be a Christian globalist, is what I said to the Briggs Corner.

00:07:16.000 Well, and they go, What?

00:07:17.000 I said, Oh, so you have the spirit of antichrist instead of Christ.

00:07:20.000 They did not know what to do with that.

00:07:22.000 She wrote a very nice article, though.

00:07:24.000 Tying this together.

00:07:25.000 Well, can I just say one other thing?

00:07:27.000 That the idea of a nation is actually a biblical construct.

00:07:31.000 The idea that your power ends somewhere and starts somewhere is a biblical idea.

00:07:36.000 The idea of creating a one-world government, that's Genesis 11.

00:07:39.000 That's right.

00:07:39.000 That's what the Tower of Babel attempted to do, and God responded with chaos and confusion.

00:07:44.000 So, understand globalism is the forced conformity of secular ideas.

00:07:49.000 They want to have the forced immersion of every person on the planet under one way of government, one way of practice, which is hilarious because I'm always told that diversity is our strength.

00:07:58.000 Oh, wait, so diversity is our strength and we can't have different forms of government.

00:08:02.000 For example, the United States should be able to say, get out of our country, UN, get up our country, World Economic Forum.

00:08:07.000 We're going to be able to govern ourselves.

00:08:14.000 Have you ever noticed like globalists tend to have the idea like the whole world is like Disneyland or something, like it's all going to go well.

00:08:21.000 But then everywhere that it's been attempted, whether we have Marxism or communism, it's like it goes to, I was raised on a farm, so I'm trying to figure out which words to use, but the manure, it goes to that kind of stuff.

00:08:32.000 Have you noticed that?

00:08:33.000 Like, I've traveled a little bit my life, and I've been to places where this has been attempted.

00:08:37.000 So start with the Communist Party.

00:08:40.000 Let's talk about globalism at that level, the World Economic Forum, and let's boil it down.

00:08:44.000 And I want to know, eventually when we land this point today, I want to know how is that affecting our curriculum and our local community?

00:08:50.000 It's affecting all of it because some of these can seem like far off distant concepts.

00:08:54.000 And just so we understand, the farm aspect is really important.

00:08:57.000 If you have any farmers here, you guys are in the crosshairs of the World Economic Forum.

00:09:01.000 I cannot tell you how big of a threat you are to them.

00:09:05.000 When we talk about food supply, we talk about what is necessary for the survival of the human species.

00:09:10.000 They are going after buying farmland.

00:09:11.000 Bill Gates is buying farmland.

00:09:12.000 The Chinese Communist Party is buying farmland.

00:09:14.000 We'll talk about that more as we go on.

00:09:16.000 I want to do a side note.

00:09:17.000 So I was with this other reporter, and they started talking about farms.

00:09:19.000 How many reporters do you talk about?

00:09:21.000 I know.

00:09:21.000 And so he started talking about farms.

00:09:23.000 I said, dude, see this grocery store we're sitting in?

00:09:25.000 That all comes from a farm.

00:09:27.000 And he's like, oh.

00:09:30.000 I'm thinking, I got a master's degree.

00:09:32.000 Come on, guy.

00:09:33.000 You got to know this comes from somewhere.

00:09:34.000 Anyways, back to the just like the energy just comes from the holes.

00:09:38.000 Yeah, it does.

00:09:39.000 It's just right there.

00:09:40.000 That's right.

00:09:41.000 And so, look, the World Economic Forum, let's try to define some terms, okay?

00:09:46.000 The World Economic Forum openly embraces globalism.

00:09:49.000 And as I mentioned, globalism is forced conformity of one culture, one currency, probably one language, but also to the deterioration of the Western Christian value system, okay?

00:09:59.000 That's what they find to be the biggest threat.

00:10:01.000 So the World Economic Forum, they meet once a year in Davos.

00:10:03.000 They have sessions ongoing.

00:10:05.000 They're politicians, they're economists, they're business leaders, they're billionaires.

00:10:09.000 Everyone from Klaus Schwab, who looks like a bond villain, to Justin Trudeau to Bill Gates.

00:10:14.000 They go and they exchange best practices.

00:10:17.000 Now, they wrote a book called COVID-19, The Great Reset.

00:10:21.000 I encourage you to read it yourself.

00:10:23.000 This is not a conspiracy theory.

00:10:24.000 They publish it in the book, which actually I think is their new strategy.

00:10:28.000 Their new strategy is actually to tell you everything they're going to do, and then the media doesn't report on it because it's not as interesting.

00:10:33.000 They're like, oh, yeah, we're going to have you own nothing and you're going to be happy.

00:10:36.000 It's on our website.

00:10:37.000 And you're like, oh, that's kind of a big deal.

00:10:38.000 New York Times.

00:10:39.000 Conspiracies are, it's on the website.

00:10:41.000 Like, they say you're going to own nothing and you'll be happy.

00:10:44.000 That's their goal.

00:10:45.000 To destroy private property, to eliminate the power of the American dollar, to obliterate our purchasing power, all these sorts of things.

00:10:52.000 So the World Economic Forum believes in a couple things, but it really is a metaphysical and spiritual belief where we as Christians believe in two main things.

00:11:01.000 Everyone here today, whether you're a Christian or not, you probably believe in these two things.

00:11:05.000 There is a God and we are not him.

00:11:09.000 Amen.

00:11:11.000 And those two things are rejected by the World Economic Forum.

00:11:15.000 That's right.

00:11:16.000 They don't believe there is a God.

00:11:17.000 If there was a God, it would be me.

00:11:19.000 And so that's the first defining characteristic.

00:11:21.000 So he wasn't meaning that like self-pointing.

00:11:23.000 He was using it as a...

00:11:25.000 I was pantomiming.

00:11:27.000 Like, if there was a God, it would be Klaus.

00:11:31.000 Oh, you should see some of the cuts.

00:11:32.000 Yeah, it's really great.

00:11:35.000 And yes, Justin Trudeau, all these people, they do not accept the idea that there is a God who is sovereign, that there is a God who designed and created the universe.

00:11:44.000 And then it goes into the question that is very fundamental, which is what is a human being?

00:11:48.000 So, we believe a human being is an image-bearer.

00:11:51.000 We believe a human being is designed for a purpose.

00:11:53.000 We believe the human being has a soul.

00:11:55.000 They believe the human being is an accident, literally, the accident of multiple millions of years of evolution.

00:12:01.000 Therefore, there's nothing unique about that human being or that human being.

00:12:05.000 We just have to try to figure out what is best for the common good.

00:12:07.000 If we have to get rid of half the human beings, that's fine.

00:12:10.000 And then they also elevate the environment as not being there for human flourishing, but instead, the environment is there to almost be supreme over humanity.

00:12:18.000 Now, these elements are really important because this is why the ideas of depopulation and the ideas that you start to see floated by people like Bill Gates and others, they all run to the World Economic Forum.

00:12:30.000 So, I'll give you three predictions that they have.

00:12:32.000 And these people have a lot of power.

00:12:33.000 They talk about staffing governments, they talk about taking over industry, and they've already done a good job of it.

00:12:38.000 As I mentioned, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

00:12:41.000 Now, actually, the scariest part of that prediction is the second part, which is like you're going to be happy.

00:12:47.000 Like, what if I'm not happy actually owning nothing?

00:12:49.000 Well, then we'll eliminate you.

00:12:50.000 I mean, that's kind of like the undertone.

00:12:52.000 It's incredibly totalitarian, like creepily totalitarian.

00:12:56.000 That doesn't make me very happy.

00:12:57.000 They eliminate it.

00:12:59.000 No, and so, yeah, being eliminated, exactly.

00:13:01.000 You won't be anywhere, you'll be in heaven, but that's about it.

00:13:04.000 So, the second thing, the second thing is Western values will be brought to its breaking point.

00:13:11.000 And the third thing is that America will no longer be the world's superpower.

00:13:14.000 So, these are the stated goals or predictions by the World Economic Forum.

00:13:18.000 Now, let's harp on one word called the great term, the great reset.

00:13:22.000 Now, in order to reset something, you have to first break it.

00:13:26.000 And you are living through the intentional breaking of the United States of America.

00:13:29.000 What I find to be very freeing and comforting about all this negative news is it actually helps make sense of all the otherwise very confusing information you see on the news.

00:13:40.000 You know, we do a podcast, and thank you for those of you that listen to our podcast and watch our show every day.

00:13:44.000 I'm Real America's Voice, we appreciate that.

00:13:47.000 And when we get emails and people email in, they say, Charlie, I never understood why they want the southern border open, why they want to inflate our currency, why they want crime on the streets.

00:13:56.000 All of that makes sense as soon as you put on the lens of the great reset, meaning you look at it through the eyes of global totalitarians that want to take over the world.

00:14:06.000 So, when you think about these environmental aspects, we think about transgender, we think about all these things, and it seems like it's a puzzle that's all in different pieces.

00:14:15.000 But what I'm hearing you say is when you start putting the puzzle pieces together, it's about power, it's about tyranny, it's about control, it's about resetting the mind.

00:14:23.000 And I'll tell you this: I was speaking the other day, and I was saying, you know, the greatest evidence that you're a boy or a girl is your plumbing.

00:14:32.000 That's how we say it on the forum.

00:14:33.000 Does that make sense?

00:14:34.000 Yeah, it makes sense.

00:14:35.000 And I got pushback from some evidentials about that.

00:14:41.000 I brought scientific evidence.

00:14:42.000 So, we were sitting there like kind of like in Romans, and we're like thinking, these people say that's good, good is bad, and bad is good.

00:14:47.000 And you're like, it's almost like you're crazy until you get that perspective that globalism is the goal, tyranny and control, and to shut the Christian church up is the goal.

00:14:57.000 Yes, it's spiritual, right?

00:14:59.000 And this is why the church has to lead the charge against the World Economic Forum and lead the charge against the Great Reset because it is spiritual.

00:15:06.000 And it is Genesis 11, which is they're trying to create a structure, whether metaphorical or literal, to try to challenge God, right?

00:15:17.000 To try to grow to the heights to say that we are greater than God.

00:15:20.000 And so, this is, you look at every single one of these things.

00:15:23.000 Now, let's talk, we can talk about the transgender debate, which is not even a debate.

00:15:26.000 We can talk about the abortion issue, but all that has a commonality, right?

00:15:30.000 So, first, we got to take a step back.

00:15:32.000 The World Economic Forum embraces scientism.

00:15:36.000 Scientism is a religious belief.

00:15:38.000 Scientism is not the same as appreciating science.

00:15:42.000 Science, properly understood, is actually a Christian exercise.

00:15:46.000 The person who invented the scientific method, Sir Francis Bacon, was a Christian.

00:15:50.000 Sir Isaac Newton was also a Christian.

00:15:52.000 In fact, Newton wrote more about biblical prophecy in the book of Isaiah than he ever did about physics.

00:15:58.000 Now, if you understand science correctly, it is an inquiry or an exploration into the natural world to discover what God has designed so human beings can flourish.

00:16:08.000 That is science properly understood, okay?

00:16:11.000 Science properly understood allows debate or disagreement or dissension.

00:16:16.000 It allows conversation.

00:16:17.000 Scientism is completely different.

00:16:20.000 Scientism is not the exploration of the natural world.

00:16:23.000 It's about the domination of the natural world.

00:16:26.000 It's about my will above what already exists.

00:16:28.000 They won't even admit it's designed, right?

00:16:31.000 That is exhibited in the abortion debate.

00:16:33.000 My will over that being.

00:16:35.000 I have the technology to crush and dismember a baby in the womb.

00:16:38.000 We should be able to do it.

00:16:39.000 I have the ability and the technology to turn a 12-year-old boy into a girl, which you can't, but they try to get close through Lupron and surgery.

00:16:46.000 I can do it.

00:16:47.000 It's about the will over nature, because that is what a God would do.

00:16:52.000 And they see themselves as quasi-deities.

00:16:55.000 Now, to complete the point, though, you internationalize this, right?

00:16:58.000 They then want their own council of scientific experts.

00:17:02.000 And scientism, by the way, which is a term I hope all of you get very familiar with, is necessarily totalitarian.

00:17:08.000 It always ends to be totalitarian.

00:17:10.000 Why?

00:17:10.000 We lived through it with Fauci and all these other people.

00:17:13.000 Because disagreement is not allowed, and you can only listen to their scientists.

00:17:18.000 You can't bring people like Dr. Malone or Dr. McCullough or all these amazing rock stars.

00:17:23.000 No, no, no, because they disagree with their scientific community, but they actually don't want the preservation of the scientific method.

00:17:33.000 They want a very specific political goal and they're willing to use the badge, hey, I'm wearing the uniform of science to help them get there.

00:17:41.000 Now, the World Economic Forum is driven by a lot of scientists.

00:17:45.000 Scientists in economics, scientists in biology, in transhumanism, all these different things.

00:17:51.000 More people died in the 20th century because of scientism than almost any other belief system.

00:17:56.000 And yes, it was Marxism, it was communism, but you look at the idea of I'm going to use technology to crush the human being.

00:18:03.000 That's how you get concentration camps.

00:18:05.000 That's how you get eugenics.

00:18:07.000 That's how you get forced famines that Joseph Stalin used in Ukraine, all across Europe, Eastern Europe, I should say.

00:18:13.000 And so you put all this together.

00:18:15.000 If you have the urge to use technology to then be able to suppress the human condition and then to get people to doubt what God has told them, that is transparently demonic, everybody.

00:18:28.000 And that's exactly what is unfolding.

00:18:30.000 And this is why I tell the church you cannot outsource your activism to the secular world.

00:18:35.000 If you're involved in a spiritual battle, why are we letting the secular world fight it for us?

00:18:50.000 You know, I'm thinking about the Ten Commandments.

00:18:52.000 The first commandment is that you should not have any other gods before you.

00:18:56.000 And I want to point out that includes you.

00:18:59.000 Look at your neighbor and say, you're just not that big of a deal.

00:19:04.000 I do that all the time.

00:19:05.000 And people laugh.

00:19:06.000 I don't know why.

00:19:07.000 But here's the thing.

00:19:08.000 The bigger the deal that you think you are, the more that you're going to enter into the wrong area and the wrong arena and how you fight this thing.

00:19:16.000 Church, we can applaud all we want, but if we don't get on our knees and pray against the spiritual forces, for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, nothing will change.

00:19:32.000 We've mentioned Genesis 11 a few times.

00:19:34.000 This is now the whole earth used the same language and the same words.

00:19:38.000 Do you understand, church, that this is what they're doing?

00:19:41.000 And they're doing it through technology.

00:19:43.000 They're doing it.

00:19:43.000 I'll let you go on that.

00:19:44.000 Okay.

00:19:45.000 It came about, yeah, read Genesis 11.

00:19:47.000 It's awesome.

00:19:48.000 Okay, it came about as they journeyed east that they found a plain on the sea and settled there.

00:19:53.000 They said to one another, come, listen to this, come, let us make bricks and burn them thoroughly.

00:20:00.000 And they used brick to stone and they used tar for mortar, and they came, let us build for ourselves a city and a tower whose top will reach into the heavens.

00:20:12.000 And let us make ourselves a name.

00:20:14.000 Did you get that?

00:20:15.000 Let us make ourselves a name.

00:20:17.000 Otherwise, we will be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.

00:20:21.000 And this is why I want you to know: we cannot build our own way into heaven.

00:20:26.000 God will only rule and reign when he's ready to come back to rule and to reign.

00:20:31.000 And that is it.

00:20:32.000 No other gods before us.

00:20:34.000 No other things before us.

00:20:36.000 We need to turn to the living God and repent.

00:20:40.000 Amen.

00:20:41.000 And God scattered them into confusion because they wanted to build something that challenged his power and his incredible grace and who God is.

00:20:54.000 So look, I want to also reinforce this, though, that it could be very overwhelming at times for somebody to process all of this information.

00:21:01.000 World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, borderless and cashless society.

00:21:06.000 We're going to tie all this together, but we have to understand, and here's just a little bit of optimism and hope for you, and we'll kind of build this out throughout along the way, is that they are more confused than ever before.

00:21:18.000 The people that are in charge of the World Economic Forum, and you know who's confused them?

00:21:21.000 It's not the people of France.

00:21:23.000 It's not the people of Germany, because they've largely gone along with this.

00:21:28.000 They can't understand why the American people are continuing to fight and organize and show up and challenge tyranny.

00:21:37.000 They don't understand it because they thought that they would be able to demoralize you.

00:21:41.000 They thought through all these different actions and methods, the American spirit would be broken.

00:21:45.000 But in fact, the exact opposite has happened.

00:21:48.000 The more they have tried to impose their will on America, the more you have fought.

00:21:51.000 The more they have tried to go after your kids, the more you've gone to school board meetings, the more you've shown up to actually fight for the least of these in society.

00:21:59.000 And so we're going to continue to build this out.

00:22:01.000 But I'm telling you, the World Economic Forum is confused and paranoid that their time might be up very soon.

00:22:16.000 So when I was 18, I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.

00:22:19.000 And I noticed there was a transition when I was about 24 in the church that went from, I don't know, just a call of repentance to really pushing the church into seeker sensitivity and to, I do want to point out, though, I didn't wear my skinny jeans today because you've got better jeans than I am.

00:22:38.000 You've watched your game tape.

00:22:41.000 But this wokeness is coming to the church through political correctness, right?

00:22:44.000 Where I want you to address that issue in the church, and then I want to put that into the school because that's, in my mind, it's all globalism.

00:22:51.000 It's getting control of that language that we just read about, right?

00:22:55.000 We can get control of the language.

00:22:56.000 If we can just make sure everyone says the same things and take away that freedom, the First Amendment right that we have, then we will beat them.

00:23:03.000 And so I want you to think through that with me.

00:23:06.000 Yeah, so, I mean, first of all, I agree.

00:23:08.000 I think seeker sensitivity sounded like a good idea.

00:23:12.000 And then let's actually look at the results.

00:23:14.000 So vast majority of churches, I think, in America became in a posture of seeker sensitive.

00:23:19.000 So we have the least religious generation ever, least married generation, most depressed, most atheistic, most drug addicted, most suicidal generation history.

00:23:28.000 So how did that seeker sensitivity thing work out for you?

00:23:30.000 No, it turns out that Billy Graham, the way that he preached the gospel, which was yes, all are welcome, but you're going to get a dose of truth if you go to a Billy Graham revival, right?

00:23:40.000 He's going to say that sin no more and give your life to Christ.

00:23:44.000 Instead, it is this new phenomenon in the American church where it's kind of like a TED Talk meets a rock concert, and you're not really sure.

00:23:52.000 It's like they give this motivational speech, and then at the end, they say, and it says that in Philippians, have a great night.

00:23:57.000 Everybody's like, wait, what?

00:23:58.000 Okay, was that a sermon, or is that some sort of pseudo motivational kind of, I'm going to get your life back on track corporately or something, or get your business sorted out.

00:24:09.000 And it's failed miserably.

00:24:10.000 And the enemy took advantage of this because the enemy took advantage of it because weak pastors, cowardly pastors, and churches that quite honestly should have been more kind of in the mid-level marketing business than in the ministry were more likely than ever to just be like, well, you know, we're not really going to say that there's a right way or a wrong way to live, right?

00:24:31.000 And we just want everybody to come to the Lord.

00:24:34.000 And I think some people meant well when they did this, right?

00:24:37.000 But the results are horrific.

00:24:39.000 The results are, we are seeing every single number go down.

00:24:43.000 And an awakening or revival is always led by bold, courageous teaching.

00:24:48.000 Always.

00:24:49.000 It's not led by watering things down.

00:24:51.000 And so then someone says, well, Charlie, that sounds really harsh.

00:24:54.000 Well, first of all, it doesn't have to be.

00:24:56.000 Let's pretend it was harsh, okay?

00:24:58.000 Because I really don't care what people say much anymore, which is there are some harsh teachings, okay?

00:25:04.000 The idea that only some people go to heaven is necessarily harsh.

00:25:09.000 And you might not like the idea.

00:25:11.000 Well, they say, well, Jesus came to unite the world.

00:25:14.000 Where do you find that verse exactly?

00:25:16.000 I came not to unite, but to divide, it says in the book of Luke.

00:25:21.000 And they say, well, that's going to turn people off.

00:25:25.000 Okay?

00:25:26.000 It's the truth.

00:25:29.000 And so what's happened is the constant watering down of the gospel.

00:25:33.000 And by the way, you can still make it fun.

00:25:35.000 You can make it creative.

00:25:36.000 You can make it bold, right?

00:25:38.000 You can also make it in a way that people are interested in it.

00:25:41.000 But there has been this, it's the same thing that we see happening in our politics.

00:25:46.000 And I think it actually, you bring up a really smart point.

00:25:49.000 And I've actually never said it.

00:25:50.000 You did, yes.

00:25:51.000 I'll remember that for later.

00:25:53.000 So, is I actually think you're right that the church was on the leading edge of the political correctness tyranny.

00:26:00.000 And I've never actually thought of it that way.

00:26:02.000 And so what is political correctness?

00:26:04.000 Political correctness is all of us have to monitor our language and our decisions and our actions of what otherwise would be denormal because of a very small group of miserable people that can't deem to find anything that they find disagreeable, right?

00:26:16.000 That's what political correctness is.

00:26:17.000 Now, should you be intentionally cruel or harsh?

00:26:21.000 Never as a Christian.

00:26:22.000 But if you say something that is very transparently normal, for example, there's only two genders, and someone starts screaming in the corner, that's not your problem, that's their problem, actually, okay?

00:26:34.000 And so this is best.

00:26:36.000 And the church all of a sudden started to walk on eggshells because they say, and this is the other problem, is that kind of church growth models became very similar to corporate growth models where they say we need bigger budgets, bigger buildings, more baptisms, we need attractizing offerings with business precision.

00:26:51.000 We're going to borrow a bunch of money, right?

00:26:53.000 The American church saddled with that happened a lot.

00:26:55.000 And so when all of a sudden your business model is barely servicing a loan, you are going to be a little bit more careful, right?

00:27:01.000 Because you just got to get more people to the door.

00:27:03.000 And it doesn't matter.

00:27:04.000 So the American church, in some ways, and again, there's so many great pastors here tonight that deserve credit recognition.

00:27:09.000 I don't mean to loop them into this.

00:27:10.000 I mean, ask them a round of applause.

00:27:12.000 Yeah, so I'm talking more broadly, obviously, is that Jesus had to create disciples of all nations, not converts of all nations, right?

00:27:23.000 Discipleship goes deep and it takes time.

00:27:25.000 Converts are great.

00:27:27.000 We should try to win souls over.

00:27:28.000 But it's like, hey, I give my life to the Lord on Easter and you never hear from that person again.

00:27:32.000 Right?

00:27:33.000 There's a problem with that.

00:27:35.000 Okay.

00:27:35.000 And so how does this all connect together?

00:27:38.000 Well, political correctness, and I'll just give you kind of one example.

00:27:42.000 I was just at University of North Carolina, Charlotte.

00:27:44.000 I was just doing an event.

00:27:46.000 And so I have very strong opinions on the trans thing.

00:27:49.000 I don't actually believe that someone who says they are a man or a woman should be recognized as such, right?

00:27:54.000 I believe it's as God made you.

00:27:55.000 You have a mental delusion.

00:27:57.000 You should get medical treatment, be given compassion, but you are not a woman because you say you're a woman because you're a man.

00:28:02.000 And I'm not going to all of a sudden police my speech or my code of conduct around that nonsense.

00:28:06.000 I refuse to do that.

00:28:08.000 Okay?

00:28:08.000 And so what's interesting though is that that opinion is obviously not very popular.

00:28:14.000 The alphabet mafia comes after me all the time, right?

00:28:17.000 And these are pseudo-cultural terrorists.

00:28:20.000 I sure hope the media is here and they're writing this down.

00:28:22.000 They're pseudo-cultural terrorists, what they are.

00:28:24.000 And so I was at this.

00:28:26.000 We should spell that for them.

00:28:27.000 P-S- Yeah, there you go.

00:28:29.000 See, right now forgot the P. Pesudo, right?

00:28:32.000 Pesudo.

00:28:32.000 There you go.

00:28:34.000 And so there was this event I did at UNC Charlotte last week.

00:28:37.000 You guys might have saw some of the clips.

00:28:38.000 Some of them are going viral.

00:28:39.000 And this young lady comes up, and I think she meant well.

00:28:41.000 I really do.

00:28:42.000 I think she had good intentions.

00:28:43.000 But intentions are not everything.

00:28:44.000 In fact, intentions can lead you astray.

00:28:46.000 And she said, Charlie, I don't understand why you can't recognize what somebody else wants to say.

00:28:53.000 And what she was getting at is forced conformity, right?

00:28:56.000 And it's just basically, I refuse to tell a lie, right?

00:28:59.000 So if you're a man and I know you're a man, and then you say you're a woman, I'm not going to go along with it.

00:29:03.000 And then some people might say, well, what if they tricked you?

00:29:05.000 Okay, yeah, you wear a great costume.

00:29:07.000 Like, congratulations.

00:29:08.000 But the moment that I find out you're actually a man, I'm going to correct myself, right?

00:29:12.000 Just because you wear like the most deceiving costume in public doesn't mean always like, ooh, you got me.

00:29:17.000 Like, actually, no, you're a liar is what you are, okay?

00:29:20.000 And you all of a sudden are appropriating womanhood or appropriating manhood as you're taking something that is not yours.

00:29:27.000 Okay.

00:29:27.000 So, but what was interesting is that it was this whole controversy around Levine, who is the man who thinks he's a woman, who's in Rear Admiral to Health or whatever in the United States government of the United States Navy.

00:29:39.000 And so I got kicked off Twitter temporarily, by the way.

00:29:41.000 Love to do Twitter management.

00:29:42.000 Really fun.

00:29:45.000 Great.

00:29:47.000 By the way, Twitter is so much fun.

00:29:49.000 Now, did you see that?

00:29:50.000 I had this one tweet the other day where I just was like, you know, there are only two genders.

00:29:54.000 Abortion is murder.

00:29:55.000 The virus came from a lab.

00:29:56.000 The vaccine has killed some people.

00:29:57.000 And no one has touched me ever since I tweeted.

00:29:59.000 It's been the most amazing lockdown.

00:30:05.000 And so, but anyway, six months back, back when the Bolsheviks were controlling Twitter before it got liberated by my favorite African-American businessman.

00:30:19.000 I got kicked off Twitter.

00:30:20.000 That's a good one.

00:30:21.000 Thank you.

00:30:23.000 He's African-American.

00:30:24.000 I support African-American-owned businesses.

00:30:27.000 And you should too.

00:30:28.000 Or else you're a racist.

00:30:29.000 You're a terrible person.

00:30:31.000 And so I go back and I say very simply, Richard Levine, the name used to be Richard Levine.

00:30:38.000 That was his name.

00:30:39.000 And then changed the name to Rachel.

00:30:41.000 And so then I got kicked off of social media for dead naming.

00:30:43.000 So I'll speed up the story.

00:30:44.000 Dead naming is when you use the old name of somebody.

00:30:47.000 And so this young lady at the campus, the university, could not grasp the idea that I would use somebody's prior name, which of course is biographical information, right?

00:30:55.000 It's like saying Abraham used to be Abram or Muhammad Ali used to be Cassius Clay.

00:30:59.000 This is part of the biography.

00:31:01.000 It's a fact.

00:31:02.000 You can't eliminate history because someone's going to be so sensitive.

00:31:05.000 Like, I'm something else.

00:31:05.000 Actually, no, it used to be you.

00:31:07.000 And by the way, their whole, it's so hilarious is their identity is in trans.

00:31:10.000 So if your identity is in the transition, then can you forget what you claim it used to be?

00:31:15.000 Anyway, so, but what it got down to.

00:31:18.000 Wait a minute.

00:31:19.000 I just caught up.

00:31:20.000 Thank you.

00:31:20.000 Okay, go ahead.

00:31:21.000 Yeah.

00:31:24.000 I actually haven't found very many people that speak faster than me, but I think I've met my match.

00:31:29.000 I'm slowing down for you.

00:31:30.000 Okay, thank you.

00:31:31.000 Thank you.

00:31:32.000 So what was the crux why I'm telling this story is that eventually it got to the place where she said you should be forced to use the name, forced to use the pronoun.

00:31:44.000 Now what's hilarious is she's like, because it's going to hurt other people's feelings.

00:31:47.000 Like, okay, so what's hilarious is that we don't get that right.

00:31:51.000 We don't get the right to say what we want, but we have to say what they want us because all of a sudden I'm going to be shattered and I might hurt myself.

00:31:57.000 And that's political correctness right there.

00:31:59.000 It is the tyranny of a vast minority that has no confidence, no centeredness, right, of who they are.

00:32:06.000 And the only way they're able to exist is police your actions and your behavior.

00:32:09.000 And I talk openly about this in the four steps of kind of modern liberalism, right?

00:32:14.000 Where this happened with the homosexual thing, happened with the transgender thing.

00:32:17.000 And I used to be pretty naive on some of these topics as well.

00:32:20.000 And I've talked openly about it where it's like, oh, well, can't we kind of show Christ's love and kind of like be okay with part of this?

00:32:26.000 And it's like, no, you got to stop it early or else it spreads like a pathogen, right?

00:32:29.000 And so it goes in four steps, okay?

00:32:31.000 So the first step is what they do is like, well, you must tolerate this.

00:32:34.000 My least favorite word is tolerance.

00:32:36.000 I can't stand it.

00:32:37.000 Okay.

00:32:37.000 We should never tolerate evil, period, okay?

00:32:40.000 We should not tolerate evil.

00:32:43.000 So first they say you must tolerate it.

00:32:46.000 You must tolerate it.

00:32:47.000 I'm going to tell you to tolerate it.

00:32:48.000 It's that great clip in Seinfeld, right?

00:32:51.000 Where he's doing the HIV walk.

00:32:53.000 It's like, where's your ribbon?

00:32:54.000 I don't want to wear the ribbon.

00:32:55.000 You must put the ribbon on.

00:32:55.000 It's like they're going to force you.

00:32:56.000 Okay.

00:32:57.000 Next is acceptance.

00:32:58.000 So it goes from tolerance to acceptance.

00:33:00.000 And so then they're like, well, do you agree that men can become women and men can become pregnant?

00:33:04.000 Well, no, I thought you wanted tolerance, which was us leave you alone.

00:33:07.000 No, no, no, now you must accept it verbally.

00:33:09.000 Tell us you accept it.

00:33:11.000 And then you're like, okay, that's kind of weird.

00:33:12.000 And then the third step comes and they're like, no, you must celebrate it.

00:33:16.000 Like, where's your gay pride flag outside your church?

00:33:19.000 I thought you said we have to tolerate it.

00:33:20.000 We're all going to leave each other alone.

00:33:22.000 No, no, you're a bigot if you don't have the flag.

00:33:24.000 Like, well, I don't believe in that.

00:33:26.000 And then the final thing is that they're going to force you to participate.

00:33:30.000 So it goes all the way from tolerance to acceptance to celebration to participation, like that.

00:33:38.000 Which is why if you don't fight early with truth, this thing spreads like a wildfire.

00:33:50.000 What we must realize is that there's such a thing as pathos, emotional truth to some, and logos, real truth.

00:34:00.000 My perception and your perception doesn't equal my truth and your truth.

00:34:05.000 There's one truth.

00:34:07.000 And it's important that we understand that if someone has, I think there's two things.

00:34:13.000 I'm going to try out a concept on you.

00:34:14.000 This is probably a horrible idea to do, okay?

00:34:17.000 But if someone has same-sex attraction or they want a transgender, I want you to know that Jesus Christ died on the cross for that.

00:34:26.000 He rose again that you may have newness of life.

00:34:28.000 And there's hope through the blood of Jesus Christ for newness of life.

00:34:36.000 Now, here's my concept I'm going to try out, and it may be a flop.

00:34:39.000 All right, are you ready?

00:34:40.000 Go ahead.

00:34:41.000 All right.

00:34:41.000 So in critical race theory, there's the oppressor and the oppressed.

00:34:45.000 And if we tell a whole generation that you're an oppressor, and the only way that you can get out of that group is by transitioning to something else that you can't change.

00:34:53.000 You can't change your skin color, but you can get body parts cut off.

00:34:56.000 You can get whatever else.

00:34:57.000 Is that a motivate?

00:34:59.000 Have you seen that to be a motivating factor?

00:35:01.000 Or do you think it goes back up to like something else?

00:35:03.000 Well, that's interesting.

00:35:04.000 You actually are onto something.

00:35:05.000 Congratulations and formulating that.

00:35:07.000 So that's pretty good.

00:35:09.000 So what you're getting at, though, is if you are all of a sudden receiving a lot of ridicule and hatred as being low on the oppression Olympics hierarchy, right?

00:35:20.000 It's the numbers system.

00:35:21.000 Yeah, so the way it works on college campuses, right, is there's the oppression Olympics, right?

00:35:26.000 Whoever is the most oppressed gets the most medals, handouts, and gets the most privileges, right?

00:35:30.000 So I'm at the bottom of the list, like white, Christian, you know, ableist, like man, father, you know, all that sort of stuff.

00:35:37.000 You can't be any of that stuff.

00:35:38.000 You got to go to the back of the line.

00:35:39.000 It's reverse discrimination, reverse oppression, right?

00:35:42.000 And white Christian men are the worst thing you could possibly be.

00:35:44.000 It drives them nuts.

00:35:46.000 Now, it's interesting, though, that if you wanted to move up in the oppression Olympics hierarchy, the way you could cut to the front of the line is all of a sudden just chop off your private parts, right?

00:35:55.000 Is that you could go immediately from a white man to all of a sudden to a transitioned woman, and you're all of a sudden, you're the grand marshal of the oppression parade, right?

00:36:03.000 You're marching in the streets.

00:36:05.000 You become really important really quickly.

00:36:06.000 And so that's why I'm thinking some of them are pushing for this.

00:36:09.000 We're pushing for that because their emotional truth is such, they can't handle that.

00:36:13.000 They can't handle that.

00:36:14.000 And by the way, I should tell you that my death threat that I had last night was from a transgender person.

00:36:19.000 Very tolerant of me.

00:36:20.000 Yeah, right.

00:36:21.000 And that's not a joke, by the way.

00:36:22.000 I'm being serious.

00:36:23.000 They left a message.

00:36:24.000 And I want that person to know, if they're listening, I want you to know that I forgive you and that there's hope through Jesus Christ.

00:36:31.000 Amen.

00:36:33.000 Thank you.

00:36:35.000 That's awesome.

00:36:37.000 So is that what you're seeing on the college campuses?

00:36:40.000 Or is it the curriculum that's pushing people this?

00:36:42.000 Or give me like kind of like a expert.

00:36:44.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a mess, right?

00:36:46.000 It's a generation that's starving for truth.

00:36:48.000 As I've mentioned, it's the most lied-to-generation, the most controlled generation.

00:36:52.000 I went through the kind of phrase earlier, most depressed, most suicidal, most psychiatric drug-addicted, most drug-addicted, most alcohol-addicted, least religious generation, least likely to get married, and least children ever being born in American history.

00:37:05.000 Besides that, everything's great, right?

00:37:06.000 And I will say, though, and this is a little more broad, that there must be an acknowledgement by anyone over the age of 30 that part of the reason they're depressed and suicidal and all this is actually not all their fault.

00:37:20.000 We did this to them as well, okay?

00:37:22.000 The lockdowns will go down as one of the worst mistakes done in American history.

00:37:27.000 And it was wrong from the beginning.

00:37:29.000 And what we have seen is a generation with speech impediments, speech delays, the math and reading scores, and the carnage of that decision is still being experienced.

00:37:38.000 And if the response is like, oh, tough love, get over it, I don't think that's the right response.

00:37:45.000 I don't.

00:37:46.000 It was intergenerational robbery, is what it was.

00:37:49.000 Was that we want to live an extra 10 or 15 years.

00:37:52.000 We don't care if the 14-year-old has to stay at home and stare at a screen all day long.

00:37:56.000 It was immoral from the beginning, and we should make sure it never happens again in American society.

00:38:01.000 It was a very, I'm going to say something that will make headlines, okay?

00:38:09.000 It was an inverse, it was a perverse form of child sacrifice, is what it was.

00:38:15.000 And that's the only way you could explain it.

00:38:17.000 You might say, Charlie, that's not true.

00:38:19.000 Oh, yeah.

00:38:19.000 How many people under the age of 20 have died from fentanyl overdoses and suicide because of the lockdowns?

00:38:25.000 We've seen an increase across the board with this.

00:38:27.000 And what was the argument?

00:38:28.000 Well, it's not that the kids are going to get it.

00:38:29.000 It's that they might spread it to adults.

00:38:31.000 A society that is morally centered says the adults will take the bullet for the kids.

00:38:37.000 We did the opposite.

00:38:40.000 We had the kids take the bullet for the adults.

00:38:42.000 Who does that?

00:38:44.000 An increasingly secular country, that's unbelievably selfish.

00:38:48.000 And by the way, some people said, well, you might infect grandma.

00:38:51.000 Okay, well, you could quarantine grandma, obviously.

00:38:55.000 Obviously, the virus is a real threat to real people.

00:38:57.000 But still, I grew up believing that the older generation would do whatever it took to make sure their kids and grandkids would have a better future.

00:39:05.000 And we did the opposite, okay?

00:39:10.000 I want to read this to you.

00:39:11.000 It says, by faith, Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter.

00:39:16.000 And I want you to hear this if you're a believer in the room.

00:39:19.000 Choosing rather to endure the ill treatment with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin.

00:39:29.000 Considering the reproach of Christ, greater riches.

00:39:34.000 Hear this out for a onek holders.

00:39:36.000 Greater riches than the treasures of Egypt, for he was looking forward to his reward.

00:39:44.000 And I think we're living in a time and day, Charlie, where many people are looking for the passing pleasures, whether it's porn, whether it's being accepted, whether it's their emotional truth.

00:39:54.000 And I will tell you that one day you'll stand before the living God.

00:39:56.000 This is not a threat, it's just a reality.

00:39:59.000 And you'll give an account.

00:40:00.000 And guess what?

00:40:01.000 Charlie won't be there for your time.

00:40:04.000 I won't be there for my time.

00:40:05.000 I'll be there for my time, I'll tell you.

00:40:08.000 We'll be there individually, is what I'm trying to say.

00:40:11.000 And we'll give an account to God.

00:40:13.000 And that's not to make you afraid.

00:40:15.000 That is to get you to be real with yourself and say, what am I looking at?

00:40:18.000 Because I think in the small ways in the Christian church, it's easy to look at these places where evil are beginning to thrive and say, well, I'm not doing that.

00:40:26.000 And what we do is we value our evil as less than the evil that's happening in the world.

00:40:33.000 And we need to each turn to our living God and say, God, forgive us.

00:40:38.000 Jesus, forgive us.

00:40:40.000 So, Charlie, talk to us about the school system.

00:40:48.000 I know you wrote this book, The College Scam.

00:40:51.000 And I want to know about the indoctrination that's happening in our schools.

00:40:55.000 Has it hit all across public schools?

00:40:57.000 Has it not hit?

00:40:58.000 What have you seen?

00:41:00.000 Are there pockets where it seems to be okay?

00:41:03.000 And just give us some updates on the schools.

00:41:05.000 Sure.

00:41:05.000 I think we have a setup outside a booth afterwards.

00:41:08.000 Am I right?

00:41:09.000 I think so.

00:41:09.000 Yeah.

00:41:09.000 So we have a cool offer for you guys.

00:41:11.000 I know inflation is crushing a lot of people.

00:41:13.000 So if you guys, after the event, once we're done, for a gift of any amount, $5, $10, whatever, you guys get both books.

00:41:20.000 My book, The College Scam, hardcover, and also The American Response to The Great Reset.

00:41:24.000 We want that because we want this in your hands.

00:41:26.000 I actually think that'll bless you.

00:41:27.000 And also, I can't stand when people are like, my book is $45.

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00:41:45.000 Okay, so that there's a table out there that you guys can go to.

00:41:49.000 Okay.

00:41:50.000 So, and also the book, The American Response to the Great Reset as well, which I think is one of the best little books we've published.

00:41:56.000 Okay, yeah, so I wrote this book, indicting college, almost as a prosecutor.

00:42:01.000 I think that one of the great deceptions of our time that churches engage in too much is sending our amazing young Christians into a four-year secular environment and having no idea what is going to come out on the other end.

00:42:15.000 This book is very well cited, 35 pages of footnotes.

00:42:18.000 Took me five years to put together.

00:42:20.000 The arguments I make have yet to be refuted or challenged by anybody from the college industry.

00:42:25.000 They're welcome to come on my show anytime.

00:42:27.000 We can have a nice spirited debate about it.

00:42:29.000 But it's very simple.

00:42:30.000 It's that 41% of people that enter college will end up not graduating.

00:42:34.000 And the vast majority of people, if they do graduate, will end up getting a job that does not require a college degree.

00:42:39.000 College is directly beneficial, directly related, I should say, directly correlated with the a religiosity in our country, the rise of socialism, Marxism.

00:42:49.000 Pick any idea that you want.

00:42:50.000 The idea that Joe Biden says that it's birthing people, not women.

00:42:54.000 How about the idea that the Navy says men can become pregnant?

00:42:56.000 How about the idea that Coca-Cola says that whiteness is applied to our society?

00:43:00.000 How about the idea that United Airlines says they're going to hire half of their new pilots to be non-white pilots?

00:43:05.000 Where do all these ideas come from?

00:43:07.000 College campuses.

00:43:08.000 You are subsidized with your taxpayer dollars, with your kids, with your alumni donations.

00:43:12.000 And I'm trying to be as provocative but true.

00:43:15.000 I don't say anything in this book, nor do I say it in the title, that I can't defend with facts and with logic, that the colleges are destroying the country from within.

00:43:24.000 And that might be too much for you.

00:43:26.000 Like, oh, my college is great.

00:43:28.000 Okay, well, if you went to Hillsdale, I completely agree.

00:43:30.000 Hillsdale is a great school.

00:43:32.000 You guys should support Hillsdale, or maybe send your kids to Hillsdale.

00:43:34.000 They do a great job.

00:43:36.000 I'm sure there are some good Bible colleges in this part of the world.

00:43:39.000 I'm sure.

00:43:39.000 However, let's be honest: 98% of all schools are completely and totally broken.

00:43:44.000 And it's not just the colleges, it's the elementary schools, it's the middle schools, it's the high schools.

00:43:49.000 And you might say, well, Charlie, that's just the government schools.

00:43:51.000 No, no, no, no.

00:43:52.000 The private Christian schools are sometimes even worse than the government schools.

00:43:57.000 And so what is this?

00:43:58.000 It is postmodernism, post-structuralism, all these different ideas, anti-Americanism that we kind of label in this blank, this bucket term, wokeism, that has found itself into the American place of higher education, which is exactly why homeschooling has doubled in the last two years, which is amazing.

00:44:17.000 So great to see.

00:44:19.000 And parents are starting to finally push back.

00:44:21.000 So they say, well, Charlie, what does that mean?

00:44:23.000 It means, look, if you send your kid to college, you're going to play rush and with their values.

00:44:27.000 At Turning Point USA, we have 135,000 people that donate to our organization.

00:44:31.000 Amazing.

00:44:32.000 Praise God.

00:44:33.000 I get letters every day from people.

00:44:35.000 Charlie, I wish I never would have sent my kid to college.

00:44:37.000 They won't talk to me.

00:44:38.000 They won't honor me.

00:44:39.000 They won't let me see my kids.

00:44:40.000 They're atheists.

00:44:41.000 They're socialists.

00:44:42.000 They grew up in a homeschooled Christian environment.

00:44:44.000 But I thought it would be a good idea to send them to Wazoo or UW or University of Oregon or CU or whatever.

00:44:50.000 And next thing you know, they have a completely different value system.

00:44:53.000 So just be careful.

00:44:54.000 And by the way, what are you getting in return?

00:44:55.000 An overly inflated piece of paper?

00:44:58.000 What is the value proposition?

00:44:59.000 Well, Charlie, I want my kid to be a doctor, my doctor.

00:45:02.000 I want my kid to be a doctor or a lawyer or an accountant.

00:45:05.000 Okay, fine.

00:45:06.000 But it's a risk.

00:45:07.000 Everything in life is a risk.

00:45:08.000 I think that if we had far less kids going to college, more kids taking gap years, as one of the pastors mentioned earlier, we need more people in the muscular class of our country, plumbers, electricians, welders, people in the HPHC trades.

00:45:23.000 And by the way, it's all interconnected.

00:45:26.000 Our elites deindustrialized our economy by sending all our factories to China, then convincing people there's no more muscular work.

00:45:33.000 So go to a four-year Marxist institution to go learn to hate yourself and hate the country.

00:45:37.000 And then we staff all our corporations with those very same people because we shipped all our jobs overseas.

00:45:42.000 It's all interconnected under kind of this terror of neoliberalism.

00:45:46.000 Can you escape college not a communist?

00:45:49.000 Of course you can.

00:45:50.000 Can you escape college, you know, loving the Lord?

00:45:52.000 Of course you can.

00:45:53.000 But the odds and the risk is something that most families have no idea.

00:45:58.000 And we kind of say, well, my kid has to go to college.

00:46:01.000 No, your kid doesn't.

00:46:02.000 And I'll say one final thing to the parents out there.

00:46:04.000 I didn't go to college.

00:46:05.000 I think it's working out for me.

00:46:06.000 The jury's still out.

00:46:07.000 But I'll say one last thing.

00:46:11.000 The number one reason kids go to college is because their parents force them to.

00:46:16.000 And because parents live vicariously through their kids, because they're afraid to tell their cousin, their sister, their neighbor that little Johnny's becoming a plumber.

00:46:26.000 No person in upper middle class society is proud if their kid becomes a plumber.

00:46:30.000 Let's be honest.

00:46:31.000 They're proud if their kid becomes a Marxist at Washington State University.

00:46:34.000 That's a big deal.

00:46:36.000 But all of a sudden you're deemed as a failure in upper middle class society in America if your kid doesn't go to a four-year college.

00:46:42.000 You know, one of the things that I have a lot of my boys entering into the 18, 20, and I think we do a disservice when we're constantly nagging them.

00:46:54.000 Like everyone's asking them, so what college are you going to go to?

00:46:56.000 Where are you going to go to?

00:46:56.000 It's so wrong.

00:46:57.000 You know what?

00:46:58.000 I think that I don't mind if you ask.

00:47:00.000 I mean, I'm just going to smile.

00:47:01.000 But in my head, this is how I'm judging you.

00:47:07.000 I'm thinking, you know what?

00:47:09.000 Why would, if I'm not willing to go to the butcher, why would I send my kid to the butcher?

00:47:16.000 Think about that for a moment.

00:47:18.000 And what I'm saying is, I'd rather my kids be on course with God and do whatever they call, whether that's working at the coffee shop, whether that's being a janitor, whether that's being a truck driver, whether that, whatever.

00:47:31.000 I'd rather see them in heaven than have them have a four-year degree.

00:47:41.000 So, Charlie, we have about two minutes, so I'm going to give some instructions to the audience.

00:47:46.000 We have some question and answer time, and it's on a mic that's going to be right over here.

00:47:50.000 You're going to look into this camera right here so we can document who's asked what.

00:47:54.000 I'm just kidding.

00:47:55.000 So that you can talk to the crowd.

00:47:57.000 Gavin, if you'll come, if you'll come down here.

00:47:59.000 Now, here's the thing about this question and answer time with Charlie, is that this is not the time for your best sermon.

00:48:07.000 A question has a question mark on it.

00:48:12.000 Yeah, not a statement with an inflection.

00:48:15.000 So it's this long speech.

00:48:16.000 So what do you think of that?

00:48:17.000 Yeah.

00:48:18.000 And it's unumas.

00:48:19.000 Only one question.

00:48:20.000 That's it.

00:48:21.000 Just one.

00:48:22.000 Okay.

00:48:22.000 There's a lot of people who may want to ask a question.

00:48:25.000 And so you will come down.

00:48:27.000 If you're down here, we're not going across the front here.

00:48:29.000 You're going to go up this way, over, and then come back down here to Gavin, and then he'll send you out there so that you three or four people are going to be inconvenienced for a second.

00:48:38.000 Get over it.

00:48:38.000 It'll be fine.

00:48:39.000 All right.

00:48:40.000 So if you have a question, we want to keep them pretty short.

00:48:42.000 We want to try to get about 30 minutes of questions in as we go.

00:48:48.000 So just form a line there.

00:48:49.000 Yeah, he's right over there.

00:48:50.000 He just took cuts.

00:48:51.000 That's okay.

00:48:52.000 We won't shame him.

00:48:53.000 That's right.

00:48:55.000 All right.

00:48:56.000 And Gavin will be holding the mic.

00:48:58.000 He will not let go of that mic.

00:48:59.000 And he was in the military, so he's skilled at breaking arms.

00:49:06.000 All right.

00:49:07.000 Gavin.

00:49:08.000 Yeah, my name is Dan.

00:49:10.000 I'm just asking if you'll give us some real simple, actionable things that everyday people can do.

00:49:19.000 Because some of us are involved already.

00:49:21.000 Some of us are wondering how to get involved.

00:49:23.000 Can you just give us some real easy, actionable items?

00:49:26.000 Really good.

00:49:27.000 So obviously everyone here should be registered to vote and vote in what?

00:49:30.000 Is it eight days, nine days or whatever it is?

00:49:32.000 That's the simple.

00:49:33.000 By the way, it's the most simple thing.

00:49:36.000 That's like super simple.

00:49:37.000 Okay, let me kind of talk.

00:49:38.000 I'm really glad you mentioned that, okay?

00:49:40.000 Because I guarantee you there's people here and this is not your church home.

00:49:43.000 This is a courageous church, by the way.

00:49:44.000 I'm going to tell you what that means in a second.

00:49:46.000 It's a big deal.

00:49:48.000 There are, and God will bless the courageous churches.

00:49:50.000 There's three types of churches in America.

00:49:52.000 I'm going to tell you some action items based on that because what I give you as action items or I recommend as action items differentiates based on what kind of group I speak at.

00:50:01.000 The church is a different type of action item.

00:50:03.000 Okay, there's the courageous church.

00:50:05.000 Most churches in America are not courageous.

00:50:07.000 Our pastors here today, they're courageous.

00:50:10.000 They remained open.

00:50:11.000 They're bold.

00:50:12.000 They're clear.

00:50:13.000 Okay, so how do you know what type of church you're in?

00:50:16.000 Well, then there's the cowardly church, okay?

00:50:18.000 The vast majority of American churches are run by cowards.

00:50:22.000 Okay?

00:50:23.000 Now, you might say, well, Charlie, that's a little harsh.

00:50:25.000 Very simple.

00:50:26.000 Here's how to know if you're being led by a coward or not.

00:50:28.000 If I offend you, good.

00:50:29.000 It's very simple.

00:50:30.000 Okay?

00:50:31.000 Did your church do a celebration after the reversal of Roe versus Wade?

00:50:35.000 Did they mention it?

00:50:38.000 If the answer is no, you got to find a new church.

00:50:41.000 It's that simple.

00:50:42.000 How do you, after 40 years of fasting and praying, not mention the reversal of Roe versus Wade?

00:50:50.000 Well, I don't want to offend, I don't want to offend people.

00:50:53.000 I mean, it's just amazing.

00:50:54.000 But here's the thing.

00:50:55.000 If you're being led by a cowardly pastor, which I'm sure some people here today are, go find them and just say why.

00:51:03.000 Why are you not doing more?

00:51:04.000 Challenge them.

00:51:05.000 Because we need the cowards to become courageous.

00:51:08.000 And by the way, all they have to do is make a decision, and there's time left on the clock.

00:51:12.000 What's something you could do?

00:51:13.000 Find a cowardly pastor and have them give a Sunday election sermon about why Christians need to vote biblically ahead of next Tuesday's election.

00:51:21.000 Very simple.

00:51:23.000 Right?

00:51:24.000 You want to comment on that?

00:51:26.000 So I've been a pastor for 25 years, and I'll tell you the most effective thing is instead of calling them out, call them up.

00:51:32.000 And you begin to say, listen, I know you can be courageous.

00:51:34.000 I know you can start telling the truth.

00:51:36.000 I know that you can start being bold because God has placed His Spirit upon you.

00:51:39.000 Sometimes we just call people out and it seems like it's no hope.

00:51:42.000 But I can tell you of names who've called me up and said, Brian, you're not preaching the word of God.

00:51:46.000 You better get your head on straight and get cool.

00:51:48.000 So I'll just tell you, Tammy Glubrick, she did that 25 years ago and changed my life forever.

00:51:52.000 So go ahead.

00:51:53.000 That's why you're the pastor and I'm not.

00:51:55.000 You see, that's, I'm like, call them out.

00:51:56.000 Okay.

00:51:57.000 And then there's the third type of church, which they need to be rebuked.

00:52:00.000 Okay.

00:52:00.000 They are the complicit church.

00:52:02.000 They're the churches that have the BLM flags or the gay flags and all of this.

00:52:06.000 These churches should no longer get your tithes or offerings.

00:52:09.000 They should no longer be supported.

00:52:10.000 I don't care how good their Christmas service is.

00:52:13.000 Okay.

00:52:13.000 They are infested and infected with the woke mind pathogen.

00:52:18.000 Okay.

00:52:19.000 You should no longer support them.

00:52:20.000 So that's a call to action.

00:52:21.000 Okay.

00:52:22.000 Let me give you a couple more calls to action.

00:52:24.000 If you're homeschooling your kids, great.

00:52:26.000 If you're thinking about homeschooling your kids, I want to encourage you to try to do that.

00:52:29.000 For the pastors out there, try to start a homeschool support ministry within your church to open up your church as a way to help parents make it easier to homeschool your kids.

00:52:39.000 Okay?

00:52:40.000 Other things you could do, and this is actually more individual.

00:52:44.000 If you cannot go about fixing that which you do not know, spend time every day learning, learning about the Constitution, learning about the Federalist Papers, learning about the Declaration of Independence, learning about critical theory.

00:52:56.000 So the last call to action is I need all of us in agreement and in unison, regardless of maybe our theological differences or theological similarities, right?

00:53:05.000 Is that we need to get very focused and in the short term, excommunicate the heresy of wokeism from the American church.

00:53:13.000 It needs to happen immediately.

00:53:15.000 Okay?

00:53:18.000 What do I mean by that?

00:53:20.000 I mean, and I'm just going to name names like T.D. Jakes, you know, hosting Robert Francis O'Rourke, the pro-abortion fanatic running for the governor of Texas and endorsing him, right?

00:53:32.000 I'm talking about people that are saying that the Old Testament doesn't matter and that we have to disregard it.

00:53:36.000 I'm talking about people doing white privilege struggle sessions or doing things of racial reconciliation nonsense.

00:53:42.000 We need to be in unison to communicate and then to communicate our values, but also say this has no place in the American church, okay?

00:53:50.000 Because it is a heresy.

00:53:51.000 It will destroy everything that we love.

00:53:53.000 I'm telling you, this idea of postmodernism, post-structuralism, and deconstructionism, deconstructionism is a viewpoint that we're going to take apart anything that might already exist or might already work.

00:54:05.000 It's an academic theory.

00:54:07.000 It is very dangerous and it's going to take all of us together.

00:54:10.000 And the final thing, the final kind of call to action is if you're over the age of 50 or 60 and you say, I have a lot of time on my hands, I ask the same question.

00:54:17.000 How many young people are you mentoring?

00:54:20.000 And if you've never even been asked that question, I say, you have a generation that needs a rescue mission right now.

00:54:25.000 They're killing themselves more than they're being run over by cars or anything else.

00:54:29.000 That is the largest cause of death in the 30 largest cities across America of kids under the age of 22 are drug overdoses or intentional suicide.

00:54:37.000 We need every person that is an elder in the audience right now to go out of your way and go find five people that you are mentoring, taking out to breakfast, that you're texting, that you're encouraging, that you're sharing wisdom or truth with.

00:54:48.000 We need an intergenerational rescue mission right now.

00:54:51.000 And that is a call to action that will bear fruit for generations to come.

00:54:54.000 That's right.

00:55:00.000 Gavin.

00:55:02.000 Thank you for coming to this, Charlie.

00:55:04.000 With the recent change in ownership of Twitter, how do you see that impacting free speech for the Christian faith as well as the conservative movement?

00:55:12.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I have a lot of listeners on our program that are very upset that I thought that this could be a good thing because they're cynical, and I get cynicism.

00:55:21.000 I don't like cynicism, actually.

00:55:23.000 I actually, and I'm not a forced, I'm not an automatic optimist, right?

00:55:27.000 I try to find the best in all things, but this is just a really great thing.

00:55:31.000 It is, okay?

00:55:32.000 Elon Musk, I disagree with him on a lot, obviously, Neuralink and his China ties, but he's already purging Twitter of people.

00:55:38.000 He's firing 75% of his workforce.

00:55:41.000 Accounts are being reinstated.

00:55:42.000 You might say, oh, Charlie, I don't like Twitter.

00:55:45.000 It doesn't mean anything.

00:55:46.000 You're wrong.

00:55:46.000 I'm just being honest.

00:55:47.000 You're wrong.

00:55:48.000 Twitter is the incubator of elite thought in America.

00:55:51.000 Twitter is where all the journalists, all of your senators, by the way, all of your congresspeople go to find out what they think about things.

00:56:00.000 Twitter is the top of the tributary.

00:56:01.000 It's a very unique platform.

00:56:03.000 It doesn't matter how many people it reaches.

00:56:05.000 It matters who it reaches, okay?

00:56:07.000 The journalists, the newsmakers.

00:56:09.000 Without Twitter, Donald Trump would not have won the presidency in 2016.

00:56:13.000 It's that simple.

00:56:13.000 Without Twitter and the ability to express ideas and opinions, they understood that because they censored every contrarian idea, whether it be on masks or hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin or vitamin D or baby aspirin, lives could have been safe if we had a free and open Twitter during the pandemic.

00:56:31.000 So it matters a lot.

00:56:34.000 Not to mention during all the race stuff.

00:56:36.000 So Twitter is where kind of the opinion makers have it out.

00:56:41.000 It's the new public square in the most kind of fair way possible.

00:56:46.000 Elon Studded stated goal and his actions have already showed that he wants to liberate Twitter from being a censorship tool of the American Uniparty.

00:56:55.000 He wants to be fair and free and open.

00:56:56.000 If he succeeds, great.

00:56:58.000 They're going to throw everything they can after this guy, by the way.

00:57:01.000 Because it's one thing to like say you're going to do it and all this.

00:57:05.000 If you actually have a place where speech is allowed to exist, every lie we can challenge now instantaneously, as it happens, right?

00:57:13.000 We're able to ask the informative questions.

00:57:15.000 Censorship is essential to this regime.

00:57:18.000 They need it.

00:57:19.000 And so you should all pray for Elon's success, by the way.

00:57:22.000 You want to bring more people and win them over for the gospel?

00:57:25.000 You want a free and open Twitter.

00:57:26.000 You want to be able to challenge tyranny and pro-life leaders that are being raided by the FBI.

00:57:31.000 You want a social media platform where you can talk about that immediately.

00:57:35.000 Free speech is a moral good.

00:57:37.000 We are the speaking beings, made in the image of God.

00:57:39.000 In the beginning was the Word, the Word was God, and the Word was with God.

00:57:42.000 God spoke it into existence.

00:57:44.000 Our ability to speak is what makes us human.

00:57:46.000 And the ability to speak online is what keeps us civil.

00:57:49.000 And if Elon succeeds, it'll make America a freer and better country.

00:57:52.000 I know the odds is against, but boy, I'm praying and I'm pulling for his success.

00:58:02.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:58:04.000 In Spokane County in 2023, we're going to have a lot of school board positions open.

00:58:10.000 And talking to these people out here in the audience, how can you rally citizens to get involved with something they really don't know all the details to?

00:58:18.000 So don't even think that CRT is really in their curriculum.

00:58:22.000 And most of the parents that I hang around with have removed their schools from public education and are in the private schools.

00:58:29.000 But we do know we need to take care of our future generations in public system.

00:58:33.000 If you could address that.

00:58:35.000 Yeah, and so some people say, Charlie, I homeschool my kids.

00:58:37.000 I don't care about the local school board.

00:58:39.000 That is not correct.

00:58:40.000 You should care about all your fellow countrymen.

00:58:41.000 You should care about the innocent kids that are being taught this graphic pornography.

00:58:46.000 You should care about the groomers that call themselves teachers.

00:58:49.000 That's right, for the media in the back.

00:58:50.000 Those are groomers.

00:58:51.000 If you go after kids with homosexual curriculum, you are grooming them, okay?

00:58:56.000 It's sick and it's wrong.

00:58:58.000 And so I actually look at it as a ministry opportunity.

00:59:03.000 This is where the whole church needs to get unified behind this.

00:59:06.000 Because, you know, we have all sorts of different ministries, right?

00:59:08.000 We have a homeless ministry, men's ministry, an alcoholic recovery ministry, a prison ministry, all this.

00:59:14.000 Do we have a ministry to go into school boards and get new people elected to try to be salt and light in that arena?

00:59:20.000 Like, oh, Charlie, those aren't my kids.

00:59:21.000 Well, the homeless person isn't your kid either.

00:59:23.000 Then why do you help that person?

00:59:25.000 That person in prison isn't your kid.

00:59:27.000 Why do you go and preach the gospel there?

00:59:28.000 No, you should be salt and light in every arena.

00:59:30.000 I get it's not for everybody, but for any of you that are politically inclined, for any of you that see what's wrong in our local school board, I've seen this happen in at least 15 communities across the country.

00:59:40.000 One church can flip an entire school board.

00:59:43.000 If you guys meet about it, you draft candidates, you understand the opposition, you build community support.

00:59:48.000 If you got one church, it can flip an entire school board.

00:59:52.000 So I have a feeling this church is going to be doing exactly that in 2023.

00:59:59.000 So, Charlie, what you don't know is that we work with a number of school districts and we have so here, I'll just say it this way: we need more of you to run because we have a minority right now.

01:00:09.000 I'll just say it that way.

01:00:11.000 And if you have that, just that inclination, come see me.

01:00:16.000 We'll make sure things are going.

01:00:17.000 That's awesome.

01:00:17.000 Praise God.

01:00:19.000 Hey, Charlie.

01:00:21.000 Since many of the pastors you hang out with, like Jack Hibbs, who I listen to quite frequently, believe we're in the last hours of the last days.

01:00:30.000 What keeps you optimistic, as you are, about America turning around to better days?

01:00:36.000 Well, yeah, I mean, so I get asked these questions all the time.

01:00:40.000 And so I'm not a theologian.

01:00:42.000 I get asked about eschatology a lot because kind of some of the pastors, as you mentioned, I hang around with are very focused on the end times.

01:00:49.000 I think they very well could be right.

01:00:51.000 That's not my kind of line of work.

01:00:53.000 I've heard great arguments on both sides.

01:00:55.000 People say, Charlie, you pre-trib?

01:00:57.000 Are you post-trib?

01:00:58.000 You know, tonight I'm pan-trib.

01:01:00.000 It's all going to pan out in the end, okay?

01:01:03.000 And he's trying to figure out what I am right now.

01:01:09.000 Because, I mean, it's not, that's not.

01:01:10.000 So you're not the same as Jack Hibbs.

01:01:12.000 Oh, you guys are okay.

01:01:13.000 Go ahead.

01:01:14.000 That doesn't mean they all are.

01:01:15.000 Just go ahead.

01:01:17.000 It's not my expertise, right?

01:01:18.000 I don't profess to be an expert in that kind of theological, that very theological interpretation.

01:01:24.000 With that being said, though, let's say that we are in the end times, okay?

01:01:27.000 Well, then we should be trying to win as many people over for Jesus and do the most good we can in the shortest period of time.

01:01:34.000 It should be the opposite.

01:01:35.000 It shouldn't be Jesus is coming soon.

01:01:37.000 Let's run to the hills and do nothing, right?

01:01:39.000 It's like Jesus is coming next Thursday.

01:01:40.000 I don't have time for that school board meeting, Charlie.

01:01:42.000 It's like, no, no, no, no.

01:01:43.000 If you believe things are not falling apart but falling into place, you should be accelerating your rate of change, right?

01:01:49.000 That's right.

01:01:49.000 That's the correct situation.

01:01:50.000 And so it's more important of what are you doing, right?

01:01:54.000 Yeah.

01:01:54.000 As a response to it.

01:01:55.000 So guess what?

01:01:56.000 For people that are actually saying that it's another 2,000 years where Jesus comes, or you know, churches I speak there, they say heresy.

01:02:03.000 But I hear it sometimes, right?

01:02:05.000 But I say, the question is, what are you doing?

01:02:08.000 Or for some churches I go to where they say, hey, we need to do good and that will make Jesus return.

01:02:08.000 Right?

01:02:14.000 I say, well, then what are you doing?

01:02:15.000 That's my call to action, right?

01:02:17.000 Is that as someone who loves the Lord and believes the Bible is true, my call is that do not allow your eschatology to be an excuse for inaction of all the evil around you.

01:02:32.000 And just so we're clear, we've been in the last days ever since the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

01:02:38.000 So stop trying to figure it out, be wise in the servant, and as a doubt, and tell people about Jesus.

01:02:43.000 I mean, I don't know how else to go around that.

01:02:43.000 Amen.

01:02:45.000 All right, keep going.

01:02:47.000 Hey, Charlie, like most everyone here tonight, it's nice to see you face to face.

01:02:51.000 See you on big screen or my computer.

01:02:55.000 So my question is: milk, bread, cheese.

01:02:58.000 Oh, that's a text from my wife.

01:03:03.000 Sorry.

01:03:04.000 She just took it.

01:03:05.000 She couldn't make it tonight.

01:03:08.000 With the 2024 election, and we've got a Ford governor and a former president, I think, do you think?

01:03:17.000 I think both might be running.

01:03:19.000 And what do you think that would be like?

01:03:21.000 So I get asked this question frequently, as you could probably imagine.

01:03:24.000 I'll answer it personally, not on behalf of TPUSA.

01:03:27.000 So you're talking about if DeSantis and Trump run, obviously, right?

01:03:30.000 So I'm a very big supporter of Donald Trump, and I have been.

01:03:35.000 And I told him personally that if he runs again, he's going to have my support.

01:03:39.000 I've told him that.

01:03:41.000 And I can't stand in politics when people all of a sudden forget where they came from.

01:03:48.000 And I'm a loyal person.

01:03:50.000 And so if he runs again, I'm not going to forget all of a sudden how good he was to me and to our organization and all that.

01:03:56.000 I gave him my word, and that's it.

01:03:58.000 So if he runs again, I'm 100% behind him.

01:04:00.000 With that being said, two more thoughts.

01:04:02.000 Ron DeSantis very well could be a once-in-a-generation leader that we've been waiting and praying for.

01:04:06.000 I don't know when that's going to materialize.

01:04:08.000 I don't know when, but I really do believe, I think he would be one of the best presidents in American history.

01:04:15.000 I really do.

01:04:16.000 Now, the final capstone on that.

01:04:19.000 I said, I think I know Donald Trump was one of America's best presidents.

01:04:29.000 And for that, he has my backing if he runs again in 2022.

01:04:33.000 Thank you.

01:04:38.000 Sure.

01:04:38.000 I got it.

01:04:38.000 Okay.

01:04:39.000 Hi, my name's Ron, and thank you for coming.

01:04:42.000 And I have a tape of you and my home church in St. Louis, Grace Church.

01:04:47.000 And this kind of comes out of the questions that were asked there.

01:04:50.000 With all the broken families, how can we unify the pastors of Spokane to gear toward all of our youth in the academic and the sports arena?

01:05:03.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a great question.

01:05:06.000 Look, the American church needs to continue to be, you know, in the business of trying to keep families together and try to challenge young men not to just impregnate a woman and abandon.

01:05:16.000 And I think, look, this is a very interesting thing.

01:05:19.000 I haven't talked openly about this in a while.

01:05:22.000 The amount of beta male culture that has infiltrated the American church is so incredibly disturbing.

01:05:29.000 What do I mean by that?

01:05:30.000 These feminine men that become pastors, there's no place for that, okay?

01:05:35.000 And I think what it does is it puts too much pressure on women.

01:05:39.000 It creates this weakness of masculinity.

01:05:41.000 Our whole culture has become too feminine, by the way.

01:05:43.000 That's not an attack on women, by the way.

01:05:45.000 By the way, women should want strong men.

01:05:45.000 It's not.

01:05:48.000 You don't have to overcomplicate this, right?

01:05:50.000 So please, go ahead.

01:05:55.000 So one of the things I think we need to start doing is take out the teenage years.

01:05:58.000 You're either a boy or a man, a girl or a woman.

01:06:02.000 This idea of rebellion in the middle of their life is unacceptable.

01:06:07.000 And we need to begin to call them up again and say, no, you are a man of God or a woman of God.

01:06:12.000 Lead that way.

01:06:15.000 I couldn't have said it better myself.

01:06:16.000 And so what happens, and I think the American family is breaking because of it, is this subsidized prolonged adolescence of infant boy, like infant men of 26, 27 year olds.

01:06:29.000 I'm telling you, young men need to be treated a lot harsher than they are right now.

01:06:33.000 And I know this sounds bad.

01:06:34.000 They need to be challenged, put out into the wild, figure it out.

01:06:38.000 You know, go reach deep down and understand if you have testosterone or not, and then build something of value.

01:06:43.000 This idea of men perpetually kind of be putting and their feelings and all is nonsense.

01:06:48.000 You know what it does?

01:06:49.000 It creates the most suicidal generation of men in history, is what it does.

01:06:52.000 We got to challenge our men.

01:06:54.000 We have to challenge them to be better than they are.

01:06:56.000 Young men love a good challenge, a physical challenge, a career challenge.

01:07:01.000 That's what they need to be called for, called for more.

01:07:04.000 Instead, the entire society right now is trying to say, well, there's toxic masculinity.

01:07:10.000 And if you say the wrong thing to a woman, she might report you to a local authority.

01:07:14.000 And it creates this society where they say, well, you know, I'm not going to mess around with this.

01:07:18.000 I'm just going to go play Xbox in my basement, right?

01:07:21.000 So we need, that's why at Turning Point USA, we now have a men's summit where we, and our men's summit is very different than our women's summit, where our men's summit, our women's summit is really fun.

01:07:30.000 And my wife speaks at the women's summit, and women come from across the country and they're wearing dresses, lots of pink.

01:07:35.000 Our men's summit is out in the woods, no phones.

01:07:38.000 We deprive you of calories, of sleep, we break you, and we teach you something, and then you learn how to become a man.

01:07:52.000 I want to be abundantly clear on something.

01:07:54.000 Being a man is not getting a trunk, a gun, or shooting an elk.

01:07:57.000 Being a man is being a leader, both spiritually, both first one to repent, first one to the cross, and then by the truck, shoot, the elk, and get the gun.

01:08:07.000 You guys have had me rethinking my latest haircut.

01:08:13.000 So if you look at American history, the trajectory suggests that we're losing the culture war.

01:08:21.000 What are some indicators that that might be turning around that we can look forward to?

01:08:26.000 Maybe not right now.

01:08:26.000 That's a super thoughtful question.

01:08:28.000 Yeah, I mean, look, we are losing the culture war on some fronts.

01:08:31.000 You're right.

01:08:32.000 But the unexpected reversal of Roe versus Wade shows that there's a lot of strength left, okay?

01:08:40.000 I am, I'm very encouraged because this is what's so interesting.

01:08:44.000 Pornography in schools is nothing new.

01:08:47.000 It's just that people are now caring about it.

01:08:49.000 That's a good thing.

01:08:51.000 The parents' movement in America of showing up to school boards and challenging what's being taught to kids is a very, very healthy development.

01:08:58.000 I think we're going to see a robust revival of social conservatism in our country, the likes of which we never could have dreamed of a generation before.

01:09:06.000 But I think look around.

01:09:08.000 There is a renewed interest.

01:09:09.000 Here we are on Saturday afternoon, a million different things people could be doing.

01:09:13.000 They want to come to a church and learn and dive deep and understand what they can do to be able to become a better citizen.

01:09:19.000 But yes, we are up against huge odds, right?

01:09:21.000 We're up against the alphabet mafia.

01:09:23.000 We're up against the abortion industry.

01:09:25.000 We're up against all these different forces.

01:09:28.000 But the resiliency of the people in this room is something very, very special.

01:09:32.000 But look, the leading indicators in some ways show that, you know, we're losing on drugs, we're losing on all this stuff.

01:09:38.000 I don't see it that way.

01:09:39.000 I see, you're right, the current trajectory is not great, but there's nothing to say that we committed citizens can't turn that trajectory around.

01:09:48.000 And that's what I just want to keep on reinforcing: is that America has defied the experts before.

01:09:54.000 There's no reason why we can't defy the experts again and have an awakening and a revival around these ideas.

01:10:00.000 And I'm telling you, I travel the country.

01:10:02.000 I have never seen so many millions of people fired up and committed and ready to do something for their kids, their grandkids, and their country.

01:10:09.000 That gives me hope.

01:10:16.000 And I'll just remind you: without God, nothing is possible.

01:10:19.000 But with God, all things are possible.

01:10:22.000 Amen.

01:10:23.000 Go ahead.

01:10:24.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:10:25.000 Big fan watching you since I was 12.

01:10:27.000 And just had a quick question with Elon Musk taking over Twitter.

01:10:31.000 Do you recommend conservatives joining Twitter and other public forums in order to sway the narrative back to the right?

01:10:38.000 Yes, I think everyone should rejoin Twitter.

01:10:40.000 I don't think we should abandon all these other platforms like Truth and Getter.

01:10:43.000 I think we should continue to use them.

01:10:45.000 But I mean, I think it should be a green light.

01:10:47.000 We should get back into Twitter to try to win over as many people as we can.

01:10:51.000 I know there's probably people that have been banned from Twitter here because they went on a huge banning thing.

01:10:55.000 One of the first asks that we have out of Elon is he's got to go free all the Twitter prisoners of war right now, all the people that lost, all the PAW, all the POWs that lost their Twitter accounts.

01:11:07.000 But I said this on my show yesterday, and it was mocked endlessly by the media, which means I'm definitely onto something.

01:11:15.000 Is I believe the acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk is the single most consequential private transaction in American history.

01:11:23.000 Find me another private, not government transaction, a private transaction of a private actor buying something that actually could change the game.

01:11:30.000 Nothing comes even close when you think about it.

01:11:32.000 $44 billion that controls the incubator of elite thought and something that tens of millions of people use every single day.

01:11:38.000 That's a big deal.

01:11:39.000 If he's even half successful, it's going to throw a wrench and a curveball into the regime, the likes of which we never could have imagined.

01:11:54.000 Hi, Charlie, Sean Needham.

01:11:55.000 Thank you for coming out today.

01:11:58.000 I got a copy of your book, A College Scam, and I'm excited to read it.

01:12:02.000 My wife and I are both pharmacists, and we educated our sons early on what a scam college was.

01:12:09.000 Unfortunately, to get any kind of health care professional degree, nursing, pharmacy, doctor, we need to go to college, right?

01:12:20.000 So what is your suggestion on how to fix that problem?

01:12:23.000 Because we need our medical freedom from healthcare professionals back and for patients back.

01:12:37.000 The Christian universities have got to get the wokeness out of their universities and step up.

01:12:42.000 That's just Pastor Brian's thoughts.

01:12:44.000 Go ahead.

01:12:44.000 That's right.

01:12:45.000 I mean, one of the great boom industries in the next 10 years are people that just start new schools and new places to train young people.

01:12:51.000 Because, I mean, there's such a demand and a need for it.

01:12:54.000 I get these questions all the time.

01:12:55.000 And so there needs to be new schools started, new places started.

01:12:58.000 But if you have to send your kid to a school, try to find the least woke school possible that has a turning point USA chapter there, get them through as cheaply and quickly as possible.

01:13:08.000 And you better hawk that kid throughout.

01:13:09.000 You better be texting them.

01:13:10.000 So, how is philosophy course in class?

01:13:13.000 Almost mock it alongside of them, right?

01:13:15.000 Tell them what to expect before they take it.

01:13:16.000 You know what I mean?

01:13:17.000 So it's not like you just hands off.

01:13:19.000 It's kind of like, oh, yeah, you know, they're going to throw a lot of nonsense.

01:13:21.000 And then proper, you know, the right way happens is when they text you back, be like, whoa, that professor, just like you said, was way off, you know, way off base.

01:13:30.000 And I challenge him.

01:13:31.000 And then you say, that's great.

01:13:32.000 I'm so proud of you, right?

01:13:33.000 And so you almost kind of go through that process alongside.

01:13:36.000 If that makes sense.

01:13:37.000 Instead, when parents like drop their kids off at university on September 1st and by Thanksgiving, like, oh, hey, honey, how was school?

01:13:45.000 Actually, I'm non-binary now.

01:13:47.000 And I'm not sure what my genders are.

01:13:51.000 You're like, oh, okay, you know, okay.

01:13:54.000 And then you're like, okay, you want to have Thanksgiving dinner?

01:13:56.000 And you say, did the Thanksgiving, did the turkey consent to being killed?

01:13:59.000 Like, did that, was this a consensual, I'm vegan, actually.

01:14:02.000 You're like, what is going on paying for this?

01:14:04.000 So it happens far too often.

01:14:05.000 And if you send your kid to college, you're playing Russian with their values, as I said earlier.

01:14:12.000 Adelie.

01:14:12.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:14:13.000 My name's Natalie.

01:14:14.000 I just want to thank you for...

01:14:23.000 Well, thank you.

01:14:24.000 I just wanted to thank you for your transparency and your courage because I wish a lot more people would realize courage is contagious.

01:14:32.000 And I really wanted to know, I feel that our current media is the greatest detriment to our country.

01:14:39.000 How do we, actionable steps, how do we combat that?

01:14:43.000 Yeah, so part of Elon liberating Twitter is a big part of that.

01:14:47.000 So for running for office, you can, let me just kind of give you a general rule of thumb of something I learned, okay?

01:14:54.000 So, you have to not give the media power.

01:14:56.000 You're like, oh, yeah, of course we don't do that.

01:14:58.000 We do that sometimes, actually.

01:14:59.000 So, I'll give you an example of where I failed and where I think I made the proper decision in two different circumstances.

01:15:05.000 Okay, the media tells us to hate Alex Jones.

01:15:07.000 Okay, now you might love Alex Jones, you might hate Alex Jones, you might be indifferent on Alex Jones, okay?

01:15:13.000 But back in 2018, Alex Jones was patient zero of the inter, like many different corporations working at the same time to kick Alex Jones off their social media platforms.

01:15:24.000 In one day, he lost his Apple podcast, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, all at once.

01:15:30.000 And I was silent.

01:15:32.000 I allowed the media to control me because, like, hey, if I speak out against Alex Jones, I might get a negative article written about me.

01:15:38.000 Okay, that was a cowardly thing to do, right?

01:15:41.000 And he was patient zero for the same sort of behavior that was then used against Donald Trump.

01:15:47.000 But it's Alex Jones.

01:15:49.000 We can't say anything.

01:15:50.000 The same thing happened with Alex Jones a couple weeks ago, where they put a $1 billion judgment against Alex Jones.

01:15:56.000 And a lot of people were silent.

01:15:58.000 They're like, oh, it's so terrible what he said.

01:15:59.000 I don't like what he said, and you shouldn't either.

01:16:02.000 But do you believe a billion-dollar judgment of lawfare being used to silence a commentator should be used?

01:16:07.000 So we did the opposite.

01:16:08.000 I never defended what Alex Jones said at Sandy Hook.

01:16:11.000 You shouldn't either.

01:16:12.000 But I defend speech, and I defend also people from being mercilessly assailed.

01:16:17.000 So we then invited Alex Jones to Skype in at one of our events, tell the media, you don't control us.

01:16:23.000 And yeah, they wrote their articles and they said, oh, Turning Point USA does that like, yeah, we do.

01:16:27.000 You know why we're doing it?

01:16:28.000 Because of you.

01:16:29.000 Because I want to show you how little power you actually have.

01:16:31.000 That you write an article and said you can control my behavior.

01:16:33.000 It's not going to happen anymore, actually.

01:16:35.000 That's the posture you have to have against the media.

01:16:38.000 You cannot allow them to control you.

01:16:41.000 And so that's number one.

01:16:42.000 Number two is support the content creators.

01:16:46.000 You know, I'm going to make a plug for my podcast later on.

01:16:49.000 Listening to our podcast, listening to Talk Radio, supporting the sponsors on Talk Radio.

01:16:54.000 So that's if you have some commentators that you like, maybe it's Bannon, maybe it's Jack Posobiec, maybe it's ours, you know, supporting the sponsors that are on there and seeing if you can fit it into your monthly budget.

01:17:04.000 You know, for example, we have good ranchers and they, you know, they help deliver meat to your door.

01:17:09.000 You're like, okay, instead of going to the grocery store, I use the promo code on Charlie's show.

01:17:13.000 That keeps our shows alive, by the way, against all the censorship.

01:17:16.000 Does that make sense where that supports the good media and you divest from the bad media?

01:17:20.000 And then the final thing is just you have to have a trained eye to not accept their narratives.

01:17:26.000 It's so hard, right?

01:17:27.000 That the narratives, their one-liners on their newspapers, all this stuff that seeps in, it has such control over our society.

01:17:35.000 So those are my three pieces of advice for you.

01:17:37.000 Thank you.

01:17:42.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:17:43.000 My name is Sarah, and I'm a freshman in high school.

01:17:46.000 Me and my friends are kind of the only conservative Christian people in the entire school.

01:17:51.000 Do you have any tips to actually get through that without getting beat to a pole?

01:17:57.000 Well, first, God bless you for being here and for being so outspoken.

01:18:06.000 And secondly, we'd love to have you start a Turning Point USA chapter.

01:18:10.000 We would love to support you.

01:18:11.000 Our team will help you afterwards.

01:18:13.000 You know, at Turning Point USA, we're on pace to hit 1,000 high school chapters across the country by the end of this school year.

01:18:19.000 An incredible accomplishment.

01:18:21.000 And so you can help us get on the way to 1,000.

01:18:24.000 Look, you're wearing the Trump hat.

01:18:25.000 I see that.

01:18:26.000 Look, at a young age, it's important to recognize that if you're going to be outspokenly Christian conservative, the world is not going to like you.

01:18:34.000 You're going to be attacked.

01:18:34.000 Okay?

01:18:35.000 You're going to be persecuted.

01:18:36.000 You're just going to have to get through that, right?

01:18:38.000 And be stronger because of it.

01:18:39.000 Also, understand life is more than politics when you're 14, 15, or 16.

01:18:44.000 But if they want to make it all about politics, then so be it, right?

01:18:47.000 You're just going to have to withstand that.

01:18:48.000 But find a community of people that you agree with.

01:18:51.000 How big is your school?

01:18:53.000 75 people.

01:18:55.000 175 people.

01:18:56.000 So I'm just going to tell you from experience: there's more conservatives out there that are just afraid to speak their mind.

01:19:01.000 I guarantee you, there might be only two that are outspoken right now.

01:19:05.000 But if you start the club, you start speaking out, all of a sudden that two might become 20, and that 20 might become 50 very quickly.

01:19:11.000 That's the power of boldness and courage.

01:19:13.000 And we're here to help you any way we possibly can at Turning Point USA.

01:19:24.000 I think there's two more.

01:19:25.000 Okay, do we have any more?

01:19:26.000 We're done.

01:19:27.000 Okay, so let me just give some final thoughts, guys, in closing here.

01:19:30.000 So the first of which is, I guarantee you, some people here tonight kind of heard our list and they said, Charlie, I've done everything you have asked me to do.

01:19:38.000 Everything.

01:19:39.000 I watched Tucker Carlson.

01:19:42.000 I bought the pillow.

01:19:44.000 I have done everything that has been asked of me.

01:19:49.000 Did you buy the slippers?

01:19:50.000 Oh, and the Giza Dream Sheets.

01:19:53.000 Yes.

01:19:53.000 Actually, I bakos?

01:19:55.000 Those are amazing.

01:19:56.000 And so promo code Kirk at mypillow.com for all of you keep the score at home.

01:20:01.000 Yeah, there's no noble promo code.

01:20:04.000 Go ahead.

01:20:05.000 But it's really the person in the arena that counts.

01:20:09.000 It's the person that is going to be taking the blows, the person that decides to do more.

01:20:13.000 So let tonight be a time where you decide, you know what?

01:20:15.000 I am going to do more.

01:20:16.000 I'm going to get involved on a local campaign or I'm going to run for office.

01:20:19.000 And to answer the question about consumption of local media, right?

01:20:23.000 So this is a shameless plug.

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01:20:26.000 So we're up against big tech censorship all the time, right?

01:20:29.000 We talk openly about the gospel on our podcast.

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01:21:36.000 Thank you.

01:21:37.000 One other announcement, then I'll kind of close it out, if that's okay.

01:21:40.000 Gift of any amount outside, two books, best deal in town you'll ever find, okay?

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01:21:52.000 We appreciate that.

01:21:53.000 I'll close with this.

01:21:54.000 Somebody asked, you know, hey, Charlie, what gives you hope?

01:21:57.000 I get asked the question all the time.

01:21:59.000 Charlie, are you a pessimist or are you an optimist?

01:22:03.000 And so if I told you I was an optimist, many of you would go home and you'd say, I don't have to do anything because Charlie is optimistic and he thinks everything's going to be fine.

01:22:12.000 If I told you I was a pessimist, many of you would go home and you'd say, I don't have to do anything because everything's just going to fall apart.

01:22:19.000 No, instead, you must make your own hope happen.

01:22:23.000 I'll close with the final point of hope, which is the World Economic Forum is starting to feel the ground tremble because of your action.

01:22:32.000 They're starting to become nervous and anxious because a widespread citizen movement of different backgrounds, of different religions, largely led by the church, of different income back, are people now rising up and starting to do something that we've never seen before.

01:22:50.000 You are living through a moment in history, dare I say a turning point, where we can go one way or the other.

01:22:55.000 And it's going to be the citizen that revives it.

01:22:57.000 It's going to be the mom and the dad showing up at school boards.

01:23:00.000 It's going to be those of you in the pews that are fasting and praying for the nation.

01:23:03.000 But the people in charge are perplexed by you.

01:23:05.000 They've thrown everything they can at you.

01:23:07.000 They've called moms and dads that show up at school boards domestic terrorists.

01:23:10.000 They've called many of you insurrectionists.

01:23:12.000 You don't care.

01:23:12.000 And guess what?

01:23:13.000 You're going to keep on organizing.

01:23:15.000 You're going to keep on fighting.

01:23:16.000 We have the bad guys on defense.

01:23:19.000 It's time for us to accelerate and win this thing once and for all.

01:23:24.000 God bless you guys.

01:23:25.000 Thank you so much.

01:23:30.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:23:31.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:23:34.000 Thank you so much for listening.

01:23:36.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 20, 2022

Why the Church is Still the Answer—LIVE at Valley Assembly Church in Spokane

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