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00:00:38.000And as we are giving this episode to you right now, we are crisscrossing the country speaking from Nashville to Wisconsin to Phoenix to Miami.
00:01:11.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:30.000And I met Rob a year and a half ago, just about, and I originally grew up in the Presbyterian tradition.
00:01:35.000And so I completely resonate with that, right?
00:01:38.000If you lift your index finger, that's really, you know, expository praise.
00:01:42.000You do that on Christmas and Easter, maybe, right?
00:01:45.000And so I was always told that Christians should stay away from politics.
00:01:50.000And, you know, I grew up in a great Christian background, went to a big church in Chicago that really strengthened my faith, but kind of didn't give me the confidence to continue doing the political thing.
00:02:00.000I never knew pastors would ever be involved in politics until I met Rob McCoy.
00:02:04.000And Rob was Mayor of Thousand Oaks and also a pastor.
00:02:09.000And we have spoken over 50 churches in the last six months, really bringing this message to awaken the church right now to what's happening in our country.
00:02:23.000And we really have, I think, communicated some things that need to be said to the church.
00:02:29.000We now have record amounts of churches that are opening across the country.
00:02:33.000Pastors that otherwise never would have commented on political issues or any sort of civic engagement are now going straight into the public square, which is exactly where the church belongs.
00:02:44.000It's where Jesus told us as believers to go into.
00:02:48.000And we talked twice before in the other services about ecclesia.
00:03:02.000We really have Tyndale to thank for this.
00:03:04.000And so Tyndale was the great translator.
00:03:07.000As the Protestant Reformation was bubbling up and was really starting to catch steam, there was a desire for the working people, for the peasants, to be able to read the Bible.
00:03:17.000But the Bible was almost exclusively in Latin.
00:03:20.000And there were a lot of, there was a big push to be able to have the peasant class to read the same sort of scripture.
00:03:28.000And so English was the language of the peasant class.
00:03:30.000So Tyndale said, I'm going to go back to the Koigne Greek and translate the Bible.
00:03:35.000Now, mind you, just so you know, Tyndale was condemned and murdered and killed at the stake for translating the Bible.
00:03:44.000He said, Lord, change the heart of the king.
00:03:46.000And that prayer was answered not too long after when King James took the work of Tyndale and created the King James Bible.
00:03:53.000And just a couple of years after that.
00:03:56.000And so So Tyndale, the reason they really came after him, though, was his translation of one word, ecclesia.
00:04:05.000That was what really, really caused all the controversy because, and I have so many great friends and brothers and sisters that are Catholics, but a belief in that time was the unquestionable political hierarchy of the Catholic Church, like unquestionable.
00:04:20.000And so this idea that Jesus used any other word except church was a no-go zone.
00:04:25.000And he went back into the history and he said, hey, Jesus said, on this rock, build my ecclesia.
00:04:33.000And so if you go back into what an ecclesia was, Jesus could have said, on this rock, build my synagogue.
00:04:58.000And so if he decided to use that word, there had to be significance about it.
00:05:02.000And if Tyndale was killed over it, there's something even more that I think we're missing.
00:05:06.000What I found really, really motivated me to speak out even more for the church to get into these things.
00:05:11.000An ecclesia was a gathering similar to this that was in an inherent political gathering in Greece, secular Greece, where every citizen of a certain area of Corinth or Athens or any Thessalonica of Greece, they would gather.
00:05:26.000Everyone that was a voting age, everyone that wanted to be involved, that had a duty and a responsibility to get involved in the public square.
00:05:34.000They fasted and prayed before every meal, before every meeting, I should say, in an ecclesia, and they all voted at the end of every single ecclesia, what they were going to do in the local area.
00:05:44.000What was so amazing is that they had two words when they gathered an ecclesia.
00:05:47.000Remember, this is not just some sort of term that I'm inserting.
00:05:50.000This is a word that Jesus said himself as translated in the Koigne Greek.
00:05:55.000There are two words, isonomia and eleutheria, which is the Greek word for freedom and equality.
00:06:03.000Now, what country has that in their charter documents?
00:06:08.000I wonder if there's ever been a country founded on those two terms.
00:06:11.000And so you go back to what Jesus said, and I really believe this, that Jesus was arguing for not a compartmentalized Christianity, but a comprehensive Christianity, not to wall yourself off as the church, but to be involved in all spheres, including the civic and the political arenas in our country and in the nation that you are in.
00:06:37.000So the ecclesia is the gathering in the marketplace under the guise of freedom and equality to combat, to discuss, to build up, tear down all the thoughts, all the philosophies, all the ideologies in the pursuit of truth.
00:07:11.000And so when you have an agreed upon kind of just presupposition that truth matters and the pursuit of truth matters, and that is the predominant North Star, well, then all of a sudden, every question should be, are my actions and what we are doing a reflection of the pursuit of truth.
00:07:29.000And when you remove truth from any sort of conversation, when you remove truth from a society, well, then the master of lies will take over.
00:07:39.000And you see this in states, you see this in governments, you see this in countries that remove God, Jesus, or truth from the public square.
00:08:56.000And my argument is this, is that if Jesus used that term and he wanted comprehensive, not compartmentalized Christianity, then he does care about what you're doing to impact the world outside of the walls of the church.
00:09:15.000So when Jesus said in his very, very first sermon, I mean, you know, I'm so glad I wasn't alive back then because I would have taken him aside and, you know, copped a rebuking because I would have rebuked Jesus saying, Jesus, you just met them and you're telling him you're the salt of the earth, the light of the world.
00:09:31.000Like, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but, you know, get to know them first.
00:09:35.000I mean, he's a, you know, that's what I'd be doing.
00:09:37.000But Jesus in his first sermon said, you are the salt of the earth.
00:09:42.000You're the light, not of the kingdom, but the light of the world.
00:09:45.000So how clever has the devil been to get the church to step back from injecting our salt or from bringing salt to the table, the preservative, and from shining the light.
00:09:56.000So we've been that, you know, guilty of being that bushel hidden under a bed, you know, doing the church thing while the world's gone to hell in a handbasket.
00:10:04.000Yeah, and I think the way that certain churches, not this church, teach Matthew 5 and Jesus is kind of like this hippie Jesus.
00:10:10.000Like it's the birds, it's the, you know, you got the fields, and it's kind of, it's not really any sort of application towards what are we supposed to do here on this earth.
00:10:19.000And I think it gets blended sometimes, I think, incorrectly with Eastern religions and trying to make it seem as if all this is just one sort of kind of ecumenical idea of deism.
00:11:06.000I'm going to go pander to the pedophile lobby right now.
00:11:09.000And they pass SB 145, sign in a law that does no longer requires, if a judge grants it, pedophiles to register as sex offenders in the sex registry in this state.
00:11:53.000And I think we should still handle it with grace and with truth, and especially with truth.
00:11:57.000However, they in that kind of community is a hyper-focus of mine right now.
00:12:02.000Because if you are leading a church and you're shepherding a church, which many of these in the Southern California area are, and you're mobilizing your congregation to go march alongside BLM Incorporated, we got a problem.
00:12:12.000If all of a sudden now you're using your pastoral authority to spread lies about our nation, to misrepresent civil governance, and also play into very misleading, treacherous ideas about this incredible constitutional republic that we've been given, I'm going to cross-examine you.
00:12:32.000And you have to be able to defend this.
00:12:33.000And a lot of them are not, I think, equipped to be able to do it.
00:12:36.000And what we have seen in the last six months has taught me a lot about the American church.
00:12:41.000You've seen some churches that prioritize kind of likability and acceptance into the social sphere above all.
00:12:48.000You see other churches like Jürgen and Pastor Rob that prioritize truth above acceptance above all.
00:13:00.000And so I think what we're seeing right now more than anything else is that Christians are called the contest in this arena.
00:13:09.000And a lot of these pastors, and I welcome these conversations, and I mean this as lovingly as I possibly can say it, they have no idea what they're talking about when they start to invite these very radical, very driven and motivated left-wing causes into the church.
00:13:28.000These causes do not have the body of Christ's best intentions at heart.
00:13:33.000These causes look at the church as nothing more than another host for a virus to take over.
00:13:39.000And they are doing quite a job of it, where they are infecting it with critical race theory, with bad economics.
00:13:48.000Thomas Aquinas, who's one of the early church authors, he said reason is one of the greatest gifts that God gave human beings, the capacity to reason.
00:13:56.000And we should never forget that because the ability to do science and math and understand thermodynamics and physics is an incredible gift that God gave us to be able to make sense of the natural world.
00:14:08.000And when you see an airplane take off, you say, wow, I don't, only God would be able to give us the science to be able to figure out how that could be possible, right?
00:14:16.000Where God wanted us to be able to have dominion over the natural world and the earth.
00:14:30.000And so we kind of sometimes, we kind of pigeonhole the natural laws with just that of physics and biology.
00:14:36.000But there's natural laws of economics too.
00:14:39.000There's natural laws for how we interact with supply and demand, the Pareto principle, the Matthew principle.
00:14:44.000What happens is a lot of these pastors, they're very well versed in the gospel, but they have very little to any understanding, maybe a shallow understanding at best, of the laws of economics.
00:14:56.000Or even at times, how the laws of human nature interact in the public and civic square.
00:15:02.000So what's happening right now in this country, and we did not get a chance to touch on this in the previous services, so I'm glad to build this out.
00:15:08.000And this is where the church can have its greatest contribution to this right now, which is this whole conversation that we're having is actually, who are we in the state of nature?
00:15:19.000It all goes back down to a human nature argument.
00:15:38.000We need it so bad that no matter what we do, no matter how many boxes that we check, we're never going to be able to get to God unless we accept that gift that he gave us.
00:17:12.000I'll stop there and you can fill in the theological gaps for me.
00:17:14.000But he believed that we should prioritize the infant over the adult, the primitive over the civilized.
00:17:21.000That we actually, any flaws you see on the planet are because the system is incorrectly built, not that human beings are flawed because of original sin.
00:17:32.000So therefore, if you have that as a guiding principle, well, then if you think human beings are not the problem that need to improve themselves, that need to try and make better choices or found salvation in Christ, then your entire focus will be about blaming the exterior world for any suffering that you see.
00:17:53.000Now it's just starting to make sense for everything you're seeing, all the noise out there.
00:17:57.000And this is where a lot of these pastors, I think, have missed their role and their contribution in this conversation, because we have a theological basis for exactly who we believe in the state of nature.
00:18:09.000And so when you look at BLM Incorporated, the good-meaning members of that organization, they say abolish the police and abolish the prisons because they actually believe those are structures that make us worse human beings.
00:18:22.000We believe that we as human beings are so awful to each other that as Thomas Hobbes said in the Leviathan, that life is nasty, brutish, and short, that any decency, any sort of goodness we have to each other is divinely inspired and is a moral construct that is from the Bible.
00:18:40.000And that the reason we have police in our country is to enforce the law.
00:18:45.000And the laws are the wise restraints that keep men free.
00:18:48.000And so that, whether you guys realize it or not, we are having a theological debate in this country.
00:18:54.000And it's just about time that we start participating in it.
00:19:08.000You know, Leanne and I grew up in Australia, and we would see from Australia, and we stood in awe of the great education institutions, and especially Harvard.
00:19:22.000You know, we used to have little jokes like, oh, sure, you went to Harvard, darling.
00:19:26.000Do you know how someone, you know how you know someone went to Harvard?
00:19:38.000And I think Harvard is almost a horribinger of what's happened.
00:19:44.000But it's almost like a thermostat of what's happened in America because Harvard was originally founded to be like a seminary, a theological seminary to raise up people with a Christian worldview to go and make the world a better place.
00:19:56.000Its banner, its cry was Veritas, which is truth.
00:20:01.000And so what we've seen is the undoing of truth.
00:20:03.000And with the injection right now of critical race theory, I am taught that the issue is the systemic racism.
00:20:31.000And all of our education used to be character-based, where the way that we make society better is I need to change.
00:20:38.000But now we've got people with bankrupt character going out, burning buildings, looting.
00:20:43.000I mean, yesterday, a beautiful black man who had a freedom rally in San Francisco got his teeth knocked out by white Black Lives Matter adherents beating a black man and they can't see it, but they feel justified because they see that he is part of the system that needs change.
00:21:02.000There's no holding that candle and torching themselves.
00:21:05.000Tell us, how do we combat that as the church getting back into the marketplace?
00:21:10.000Well, and our places of higher learning are really where a lot of this stuff originates from.
00:21:14.000And the way college used to be, and a way a lot of you still think of college, is a place where you are supposed to pursue truth.
00:21:22.000So the academy, as Plato really was the author of the modern academy.
00:22:09.000And so, by the time you get to high school and eventually college, you're on this journey and you're constantly, you're just kind of teasing, right?
00:22:24.000Now, the problem is that when you then come from a sixth or seventh grader today in America and you say, there is no truth, all of a sudden a sixth or seventh grader will then say there's no truth.
00:22:39.000Now, it's so funny because they say there is no truth, no absolute truth, which it's a performative contradiction.
00:22:46.000Because, wait, do you believe that absolutely?
00:22:48.000I mean, it's like there is no absolute truth.
00:22:51.000It's just, it's inherently contradictory when they say it.
00:22:54.000So, the byproduct of this is the academy in our country, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale, has been taken over by postmodernist critical race theorists who, and I could dive into this at great depth at your liking.
00:23:10.000But really, what this is, is a group of very bitter, very arrogant, and very deceitful people that have taken over the education of your children.
00:23:20.000And understand the Bible built Western civilization.
00:23:36.000And we kind of throw that word around a lot.
00:23:38.000Well, in the Islamic or the medieval world, a hero was someone who won a bunch of battles, conquered a lot of land, maybe took a couple wives, and oversaw an earthly dominion.
00:23:50.000A hero, because of the Bible, and this is the type of a hero that is embedded in all the stories that you grew up reading, whether you realize it or not, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, all of them resonate with us.
00:24:03.000We wait in line to read the books because there's a metaphysical meta-narrative that just locks into our spirit, which is really the story of the hero of the Bible, which is what?
00:24:12.000Which is someone that tells the truth, someone that sacrifices for the good, protects the innocent, and is willing to risk everything for ultimate truth.
00:24:39.000If the social Darwinists had their way, why would we ever care about blind or deaf people?
00:24:45.000So for thousands of years, it's not as if we're the first society ever to have blind or deaf people.
00:24:49.000There were blind people when Jesus walked the earth.
00:24:52.000But it wasn't until Jesus went towards the blind and gave them sight, were Christians motivated to build the first academies for the blind and the deaf in year 350 in Jerusalem, 350 years after Christ.
00:25:03.000They would take this stuff for granted, right?
00:25:05.000But in a pure social Darwinist construct, and you remove the Christian ethic, you remove the word of God, eventually the only type of way they can reason is through social Darwinism.
00:25:31.000It's Christian Western sense, and you don't even realize it because you've been seeing, reading, and immersing yourself in material from the age of three years old where you think like it's just common sense.
00:25:50.000They think that if you try to break out of your certain caste system, that is bad.
00:25:54.000You walk in the streets of Calcutta, New Delhi, or Hyderabad.
00:25:58.000There is not the belief that they're all made in the image of God, that they all have dignity.
00:26:02.000Instead, there is a hierarchy of value.
00:26:05.000And so what we in the Western world have convinced ourselves of wrongly is that all the things we take for granted, the protection of the innocent, the right to due process, the idea of charity, benevolency, and generosity, it's actually a very short window that we're living through.
00:26:25.000Most of humanity lived through a window where people did not have the sort of prerequisite that you're made in the image of God, that you deserve value.
00:27:01.000It's so unbelievably wrong that people are afraid to question it because then they think they're dumb because they're missing it.
00:27:09.000Like, no, no, you're actually really wise if you think this is total trash because it's absolute garbage.
00:27:16.000Because you kind of look at this stuff and you're like, am I missing something or am I kind of dumb?
00:27:20.000Like, no, no, no, no, you're, you're spot on.
00:27:22.000Where they believe in critical race theory that race matters, that the melon in your skin should really be an important part of your life, that dialogue is not important, that there's no such thing as individuals, that we're nothing more than a tribal group.
00:27:36.000And so you kind of piece all this together.
00:27:39.000And I'm a harsh critic of the academy and of higher education.
00:27:42.000And we should be because higher education is not doing what any, a lot of people believe it's actually doing.
00:27:48.000I would imagine that this gathering has a heightened sense and awareness of what's happening where they're really platforming and validating the most sinister ideas imaginable and they're teaching it to your children.
00:28:01.000And even worse, yeah, you're paying for it.
00:28:03.000And even worse, a lot of families are going into debt for it, where they're borrowing money they don't have to study things that don't matter to find jobs that don't exist.
00:28:16.000And the question should be, has college proven over the last 20 years to create braver and wiser people?
00:28:26.000So any decent society should want to create brave and wise young people.
00:28:32.000Wisdom, there's a whole book dedicated to it.
00:28:35.000And you can get wisdom in a couple ways, only a couple.
00:28:39.000You can get it by reading the Bible and the great works or by a long life of experience through a lot of tribulations.
00:28:45.000So a 22-year-old is not going to have the life experience.
00:28:47.000So you're basically given one last option.
00:28:50.000Read a bunch of the good books and try to immerse yourself in it.
00:28:53.000And college has not done the greatest disservice, I think, of all the problems of college is that it creates weaker people four years after they enter.
00:29:04.000And so college should be about strengthening your muscles metaphorically.
00:29:10.000It should be about better preparing you to be able to endure the inevitable suffering of life, to be able to have the capacity to get through what will be incredibly difficult and so harsh.
00:29:27.000Instead, college creates people that are experts in complaining, where they are able to organize and be activists about everything that is wrong going on in the country.
00:30:08.000You know, in the last session, you talked about, and I can't remember which philosopher it was, that said there's a spirit, there's a drive for those who yearn for authority to burn everything so they can rule over the ashes.
00:30:25.000Sun Tzu was a great Confucian philosopher in the Eastern tradition, Chinese.
00:30:32.000I think he best articulates the disintegrationist left in our country, which is that some people are willing to burn the country down around them to rule over the ashes.
00:30:43.000And I think that's exactly what's happening now.
00:31:34.000I get this question a lot as if it's the only point of controversy in the planet that, and again, I don't believe in compartmentalized Christianity.
00:31:41.000I believe in comprehensive Christianity.
00:31:43.000And also, there's going to be 61 million people, maybe more, hopefully more, that cast their vote for Donald Trump.
00:31:55.000Now, what is the church doing, though, to reach out to minister, to shepherd the people that are willing to cast their vote around the guiding principles of freedom and equality to bring them into the church?
00:32:08.000So we go into prisons, we go into foreign countries, we try to bring marriages together, but wouldn't a pretty easy opportunity be to communicate in the public square, in the civic arena?
00:32:18.000Because you guys understand not every person that votes Republican is a Christian.
00:32:36.000And so I will make the argument that the church has missed the greatest evangelist opportunity over the last 30 years by not contesting in political circles.
00:32:47.000When I go to political gatherings and some of our secular, a lot of people are secular there.
00:32:53.000And yet they're drinking from the streams of liberty and they want to dive deeper and they want to find it.
00:32:57.000And yet their idea of religion or Christianity is sometimes misaligned with the truth.
00:33:03.000And yet we're quick to go into the prisons.
00:33:07.000But are you guys quick to go to the Republican gatherings and minister to those people?
00:33:11.000Are you guys quick to go to the local GOP meetings or to the conservative conference down the street where maybe half are not yet Bible-believing Christians?
00:33:18.000And you just kind of turn to someone and say, hey, you love freedom.
00:33:42.000Charlie, you were saying that, you know, like as a church with our ministry to marriage, people are coming in looking for answers, looking for light, looking for truth with marriage, looking for clarity.
00:34:12.000And it has answers to everything, including answers to how we should govern ourselves.
00:34:17.000And for the church not to at least give sermons or teachings on what the Bible says about civil governance, I think is a complete and total injustice.
00:34:29.000And so the Bible has very clear teachings on is private property okay or not, has very clear teachings on life, has very clear teachings on even immigration, has very clear teachings on all of it.
00:34:42.000And so if we do believe in the inerrancy of scripture, if we do believe it is divinely inspired, if we do believe it is the word of God, wouldn't it make sense to try to use that book correctly to apply it to a confused and broken conversation around civil governance?
00:35:00.000And so it seems so logical as someone who's in politics, who's a Christian, who comes to churches, but you'd be amazed at how many churches refuse to do it.
00:35:11.000And it's incredible because these churches will do altar calls saying that if you do not give your life to Christ, you will burn in eternal damnation.
00:35:18.000They will say really good teaching on marriage and on fidelity and on purity and on finances.
00:35:25.000Yet the one no-fly zone is go vote how to vote and what to do.
00:35:30.000And here's where I think it actually has a very serious consequence.
00:35:34.000In the hyper-political times that we live in, when you're inundated on social media, all your friends are talking about it, there's a yard sign on every block, you're getting doors knocked on.
00:35:43.000New Christians, and even Christians that have been around the church for 30 years, they want clarity on that.
00:35:50.000And they might not necessarily agree with the political conclusion, but there's no way they can disagree with the scripture that guides them to that conclusion.
00:36:00.000And so if you just stay away from it altogether, here's the real consequence: is that people will have lost complete and total respect for the church.
00:36:49.000And they're still drinking from that stream of liberty, but they really want to dive deeper.
00:36:53.000And so here's the opportunity and yet the challenge for the church: Are you willing to be called bad names and be persecuted and still stand for truth in today's time?
00:37:02.000And this is a real testing moment because what I have found is that Christianity has been incredibly comfortable in America the last 40 years.
00:37:12.000And that has not been the historical trajectory of Christianity.
00:37:16.000Is that Christianity has always been one that's been persecuted, has always been one that has been challenged.
00:37:21.000But kind of as Christianity became the dominant religion in America, as Christianity became one where it was okay, it was cool to wear the cross, where it was not, there was really not that much backlash or pushback, as you became comfortable after one decade and two decades, they didn't want to lose that comfort.
00:37:36.000And a good way to lose that comfort is, yeah, taking a stance and you say, 61 million abortions, I don't know if I stand for that.
00:37:43.000And so that's the question for the church right now.
00:37:45.000And here's the amazing thing: and you're living an example of this, Jürgen.
00:37:48.000When you do stand, when you do articulate, your church will actually grow.
00:37:54.000That's what these pastors don't realize is that when you lean in on these issues, your membership will increase because people are searching for answers comprehensively right now, not just on this one small set of topics or issues, especially with the over-inundation of lies that exist in our country right now.
00:38:17.000Well, let me just, you know, speak on that.
00:38:19.000So, you know, Leanne and I took a stand very, very early because we, you know, we felt very, very strongly that this nation that God sent us to, that in the book of Jeremiah, God said, seek the peace of the nation that I'm sending you to, which was Babylon, because in her peace, you'll find peace.
00:38:41.000And so we adopted America as our home.
00:38:44.000So we know that if there's no peace in America, there's no peace in our home, that we have a civic duty.
00:38:48.000So, you know, we got engaged very, very early in politics and immediately, immediately felt the backlash.
00:38:55.000What was interesting is that we were pretty much ostracized.
00:38:59.000We were pretty much told either, you know, shut up or you'll have to depart.
00:39:05.000And so we had to depart from years of relationship and connection in a movement for that because they said, we want to be apolitical.
00:39:15.000But no sooner had we handed in our resignation that they erased all memory of us, but replaced it with Black Lives Matter squares.
00:39:26.000And I thought, isn't that interesting?
00:39:27.000They don't even see their own hypocrisy.
00:39:29.000But it's very simple to be Black Lives Matter because it's an echo chamber of the culture.
00:39:35.000And I always find it's a very, very dangerous place if the church is no different to the world.
00:39:41.000Why would people come into the church if we are just an echo chamber of the world?
00:39:46.000And, you know, unfortunately, you've seen this as well, where pastors have elevated. their social media, their likes, their maybe their congregation size above truth, being persecuted for truth.
00:40:03.000So we're coming into another election and the false prophets, fake news, the media are screaming orange man bad, orange man bad.
00:40:24.000And I'll start with the persecution side of it, though, which I really have very little tolerance for this, though.
00:40:29.000As someone who's in the conservative realm, who's had plenty of death threats, getting the FBI involved, parents' house, you know, targeted, can't go on a college campus without nine armed security, every single person possibly coming after you.
00:40:44.000And these pastors are worried about like a couple social media comments.
00:40:46.000Pastor Robu has to go in front of a judge because he opens our church.
00:40:50.000I'm like, I'm going to say this as lovingly as I can.
00:41:01.000I mean, and I'm not, and I'm not trying to say that I'm a better person because of it, but those of us in the political world, there's backlash persecution, canceling, deplatforming all the time.
00:41:14.000Just talk to these college conservatives.
00:41:16.000And I'd love to have these pastors that put a preference towards likability and acceptance.
00:41:21.000Go talk to a college conservative right now.
00:41:23.000Go talk to how hard it is to wear the MAGA hat on a college campus.
00:41:26.000Go talk to the price they have to pay if they dare question a professor.
00:41:30.000I'm like, you're worried about a couple bad Instagram comments because you want to stand for truth.
00:41:35.000Wow, man, I just, I don't see that at all.
00:41:37.000The second thing about President Trump.
00:42:51.000So, look, I've had a chance to get to know him.
00:42:53.000I wrote a whole book about his presidency and what he stands for and why he's doing what he is doing.
00:42:57.000Let's take it first, just from a Christian perspective.
00:43:00.000And we mentioned this in the previous service.
00:43:02.000However, let's just talk about Samson in the Bible.
00:43:05.000Samson's in the hall of faith in Hebrews.
00:43:09.000We cannot talk or read the story of Samson if there were eight-year-olds in the room here.
00:43:15.000God came to Samson when he was in the bed with a prostitute twice.
00:43:20.000God used him to fight a fight that God's chosen people are unwilling to fight.
00:43:26.000Took a jaw of a donkey and killed a thousand Philistines and died a sacrificial death for the pursuit of the good.
00:43:31.000Now, God was working in that man's life.
00:43:33.000And I could use many other examples, King David being another one.
00:43:37.000And it's very perplexing to me, the moral pietism that suddenly goes across the church, where it's all of a sudden they've become the moral referee of American politics.
00:43:47.000Like now, you're starting to call balls and strikes of who is worthy of serving in the highest office of the land.
00:43:53.000And I say to myself, Does it bother you that there's been 61 million abortions since Roe versus White?
00:43:59.000They say, Yeah, I say, who's actually done something about it?
00:44:01.000Who's put justices on the Supreme Court like Amy Coney Barrett and Kavanaugh and Gorsuch to actually contest against abortion?
00:44:10.000I say, we as Christians are called to bless the land of Israel.
00:44:17.000So who's been the most pro-Israel president in American history?
00:44:20.000So I think we would all agree, and I don't mean this as a way to be overly harsh towards the man, but it's intentionally, it touches Christians on a very personal level.
00:44:28.000We all think George W. Bush is a nice, decent guy and a Christian.
00:44:32.000I don't think anyone in here would say that, I don't like his moral decisions.
00:44:36.000Okay, then why couldn't he find the courage to move the embassy to Jerusalem?
00:44:40.000Why didn't he give the Golan Heights back to Israel?
00:44:43.000Why didn't George W. Bush ever speak at the March for Life?
00:44:46.000You'd probably have George W. Bush, you know, babysit your grandkids.
00:44:49.000You'd probably have George W. Bush sit on an elder board at a church.
00:44:52.000But George W. Bush, for whatever reason, had nowhere near the courage that Donald Trump has had for what we as Christians care about here in this country.
00:45:08.000And make no mistake, these are tough fights.
00:45:12.000Donald Trump could have done a hall pass on the March for Life.
00:45:15.000He was the first president ever to speak at the March for Life.
00:45:17.000This is a guy that used to donate the Planned Parenthood.
00:45:20.000Like, it's a guy that used to call himself a Hillary Clinton Democrat.
00:45:24.000And yet he's the one that goes out of his way to go speak at the March for Life to say that I knew you before you were in the womb, that you're made in the image of God.
00:45:32.000He takes the motorcade literally over to the March for Life and does that.
00:46:41.000When the fight to open, to fight to move the embassy to Jerusalem, by the way, it was voted on 98-0 by the U.S. Senate.
00:46:48.000We all believe that Jerusalem is the rightful capital of Israel.
00:46:51.000Jesus Christ walked in the streets of Jerusalem.
00:46:53.000Jesus Christ was killed in the streets of Jerusalem and he rose again from the dead there.
00:46:57.000Pretty important place for Christians, right?
00:46:59.000And the sovereignty of Israel helps in a variety of different ways, not just geopolitically, but also as Christians, archaeologically, to be able to continue to prove the veracity and the truth of the Bible.
00:47:10.000So here's Donald Trump, who made the promise.
00:47:13.000Guess who else promised to move the embassy?
00:47:41.000Everyone talks a big game in the Middle East, right?
00:47:43.000George W. Bush kind of made a mess of things, if we're honest.
00:47:46.000Barack Obama made a bigger mess of things by withdrawing.
00:47:49.000President Donald Trump, in a thing that every person, whether you hate Trump or you love Trump, the fact that this has not been front page news is unbelievable.
00:47:57.000That he got the Emiratis and the Israelis to a peace deal is unbelievable.
00:48:07.000And sure, he goes about it in an unconventional way.
00:48:12.000And I could go chapter and verse how he has restored American sovereignty, how he has defended religious liberty.
00:48:19.000200 federal judges put into place by President Donald Trump since he's been sworn into office in four years and about to be a third by Amy Coney Barrett.
00:48:27.000It's been really interesting to see the church because I saw a lot of the popular celebrity pastor people on Instagram.
00:48:34.000And they were black tiles, BLM, we're a racist country, all this sort of stuff.
00:48:38.000And I messaged them and they said, oh, don't worry, we're still on you with life.
00:48:42.000I said, okay, the next time that life becomes a top-tier issue in our country, I'm going to make sure I see just as many tiles.
00:48:50.000And by the way, if they really believed that Black Lives Matter, they'd be outside of Planned Parenthood every single weekend protesting against abortion in our country.
00:49:16.000Because you guys just marched in the streets of Santa Ana and San Diego and LA with BLM signs bringing your kids alongside because you wrongly believe that we're a systemically racist country, which is a bitter lie.
00:49:28.000But you told me privately, you're going to be with us when we need you.
00:49:40.000And because now for the first time in anyone here, no matter how old you are, you have a chance to repeal the unconstitutional immoral decision of Roe versus Wade.
00:49:54.000What president gave you that opportunity?
00:50:11.000Jesus taught Matthew 25, where he separates the sheep from the goats.
00:50:16.000And it's interesting, and this is very, very sobering.
00:50:19.000He says, and then I will separate from my kingdom, the sheep from the goats.
00:50:25.000The goats on my left, he says, I was hungry, you didn't feed me.
00:50:38.000What you didn't do for the least of these, you did not do unto me.
00:50:43.000And I would just say, be very, very, you don't get any more least than being classified unscientifically, non-biologically, as just a mere cluster of cells.
00:51:00.000The party that fights to murder the least of these, do you really think, yeah, they're the ones I'm going to trust with my health care?
00:51:11.000They're the ones I'm going to trust with my future.
00:51:17.000So just rounding third coming, sliding into home, because I know that you've got to get on a plane from here.
00:51:29.000This is probably one of the most important elections of our lifetime.
00:51:37.000And the Bible teaches us to look beyond personality, to look at fruit.
00:51:44.000So we keep hearing that, you know, Donald Trump is this divisive president, and yet he can bring nations divided, the Emirates and Israel, bring them together at a table.
00:51:54.000He's been nominated now for three Nobel Peace Prizes.
00:53:00.000And they then sought to punish him for this.
00:53:04.000How dare you challenge us, ye citizen?
00:53:08.000They spied on him, launched a coup against him, the fake Mueller hoax, everything they accused him of, they were actually doing.
00:53:15.000It's now come to light that Hillary Clinton was the one that actually started the Russia narrative, completely baseless, a year and a half of investigations, full vindication, totally tearing apart his administration.
00:53:27.000Then they impeach him for something unrelated and different, saying that he was doing something with Ukraine, when again, it was actually the Biden family that was doing something with Ukraine.
00:53:50.000We lose more young people under 30 to suicide than to the virus.
00:53:53.000The lockdowns will go down as the dumbest decision made in the history of our country.
00:54:06.000There is no correlation whatsoever to any country that shut down their country versus those that didn't with hospitalization or death rates.
00:56:19.000There's been important elections, high stakes, all these sorts of things.
00:56:22.000But this is an election where I do think if we lose, we can recover.
00:56:26.000But there will be some changes that I don't know if we'll ever get back, where it might be a deterioration where they wish to remove the first three words of the Constitution, we the people.
00:58:50.000At the time, California was Republican.
00:58:53.000At the time, California was an R plus 25 state.
00:58:56.000Orange County, one of the most conservative counties in the entire country, right?
00:59:00.000So we now know what happened there, but what's happening to Minnesota?
00:59:04.000All of a sudden, we're starting to see Republicans on the march where Donald Trump could win Minnesota, where all of a sudden Republicans are winning state and local races.
00:59:11.000Here's the lie that we fall into, and you've got to break free of it.
00:59:14.000That what is happening today is going to happen tomorrow.
00:59:18.000Start thinking of what the outcome you want and start working towards it because it can be done.
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