The Charlie Kirk Show - August 30, 2020


Why the Eyes of the Nation Are On the Church


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This Sunday on the Charlie Kirk Show exclusively, I give a sermon on how we can fight back against tyranny. This sermon is from a sermon I gave at a church I attend in Chicago on Nov. 18, 2019.

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00:00:08.000 Hey, everybody.
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00:00:59.000 Sermon I just gave, I think you're going to enjoy.
00:01:01.000 Here we go.
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00:01:37.000 Thank you, Rob.
00:01:38.000 It is great to be with all of you.
00:01:40.000 And for those of you that actually are here for the second service, this will be similar, but I always try to make every one of them different.
00:01:46.000 The first, a little different, the second, the third.
00:01:48.000 Whether you guys know it or not, you guys are now the eyes of the nation around this church.
00:01:52.000 And that's a good thing, by the way.
00:01:54.000 So I want to talk about that for a second.
00:01:56.000 I've been reading a lot of the news articles kind of describing what is happening here at this church.
00:02:01.000 And I think it's an incomplete picture because it keeps on mentioning Pastor Rob, Pastor Rob, Pastor Rob, which is, of course, correct.
00:02:08.000 But as I travel the country, I was in Michigan last week speaking at a church in Maine two weeks before that.
00:02:14.000 I realized that it's an incomplete picture just to say it's Pastor Rob kind of just going as a cowboy out into, you know, doing this.
00:02:22.000 It's different than that.
00:02:24.000 It's the congregation that is standing with Pastor Rob.
00:02:28.000 I mean, it would have been very easy for you guys to have abandoned Rob in the midst of all this.
00:02:33.000 It would have been very easy for you guys to stop showing up, to be like, oh, we don't know who that is.
00:02:37.000 We don't want to deal with it.
00:02:38.000 We don't want to deal with that.
00:02:40.000 And instead, all of you are putting skin in the game as well.
00:02:44.000 You keep on showing up.
00:02:45.000 You keep on rewarding Rob stepping boldly.
00:02:48.000 And it was not without cost.
00:02:50.000 I mean, Rob gave up his seat on the local city council, something he worked very, very hard to get, because he recognized and realized that this is actually more important than just that one specific city council position.
00:03:04.000 And so as I travel the country, I'm met with two different kinds of answers as to why the church is not open, because this is the exception, not the rule, as you well know.
00:03:13.000 In the Chicagoland area, there's almost no churches open at all whatsoever.
00:03:17.000 In New York City, they are barely open, if at all.
00:03:19.000 And if they were to open police and everyone would come, you know, criminally come after them.
00:03:25.000 And the answer is interesting.
00:03:27.000 One portion of the answer is the congregation will say, my pastor refuses to open.
00:03:32.000 That's one of the answers.
00:03:34.000 The other is pastors come to me and they say my congregation doesn't allow me to open.
00:03:39.000 Now, I actually, if I were to wait that equation, I would say, look, the pastor is supposed to be leading the church, okay?
00:03:44.000 So it's not exactly a democracy, right?
00:03:48.000 And I get the pressure.
00:03:49.000 I mean, the pastor should be, we're open.
00:03:51.000 If you don't like it, find another church.
00:03:52.000 And guess what?
00:03:53.000 The little secret for all the thousands of people that are watching at home, if these pastors actually open their churches, they'd be flourishing like never before.
00:04:00.000 People demand this right now.
00:04:02.000 They need it.
00:04:03.000 They want it.
00:04:05.000 And that's kind of the great ironies, is that these pastors I communicate with, not all of them, and we have to, you know, as Rob says, you know, love on these people.
00:04:15.000 They say, we're going to lose financially if we open our church.
00:04:20.000 And first of all, since when does that matter at all?
00:04:23.000 Like when you're running a church, right?
00:04:24.000 I mean, it's either salvation is essential or not. 0.75
00:04:27.000 It's like, well, I might lose my little Christian incorporated empire. 0.98
00:04:31.000 Okay? 0.99
00:04:31.000 Let's just put that aside. 0.99
00:04:33.000 The irony is if they actually opened, they would actually have probably more support than ever before.
00:04:39.000 They would have more backing.
00:04:40.000 And so they're actually self-defeating their own aims there.
00:04:44.000 And so I want to just make sure that you understand that you deserve credit when you show up every Sunday.
00:04:49.000 When those of you that are driving and traveling across the country, I've met people from Oklahoma, from Texas, that have come from all across the country to come to a church that is actually open and is meeting with regularity.
00:05:00.000 And so all of you here are playing a role in something that is really waking up the American church.
00:05:06.000 I mean, I mention you guys on my podcast very often, and people message me and they're saying, wait, there's a church in Thousand Oaks, California that is opening, that's open with no social distancing, trusting its congregants, understanding the value of liberty and responsibility.
00:05:21.000 This stuns people all across the country.
00:05:23.000 You understand what?
00:05:24.000 You understand what you're doing.
00:05:25.000 And because of the internet, it spreads like that.
00:05:27.000 And so now you're the example for the rest of the country.
00:05:30.000 And it's still an ongoing thing, as you well know.
00:05:33.000 And it's kind of this whole thing about tyranny, right?
00:05:35.000 And we're going to talk a little bit about that today.
00:05:37.000 What exactly is a tyrant and why do these people do what they're doing?
00:05:40.000 And a lot of you have probably experienced something that I have coined as micro-tyranny recently, which is when you have widespread fear, when you have propaganda everywhere you look, what ends up happening, then the government edicts come down and you have these things called micro-tyrants start to pop up.
00:05:58.000 Now, all of you know a micro-tyrant because they probably work at the TSA.
00:06:02.000 I'm half kidding, by the way. 1.00
00:06:04.000 But you know exactly the type of person I'm talking about, where their job and their livelihood is trying to enforce some sort of measure to try to limit your freedom.
00:06:13.000 Now, some of it might be very well-intentioned, but it happened to me this morning at Starbucks, right?
00:06:18.000 So I ordered a drink that required a straw, and it just so happened there was a line that I did not know that was enforceable behind some sort of plastic shield.
00:06:28.000 So I went and I grabbed the straw, right?
00:06:30.000 I got admonished and just completely and totally scorned for such a violation of going the extra eight inches to grab the straw because that was going to cause the entire Ventura County to die, right?
00:06:46.000 So because I went those extra eight inches, right?
00:06:50.000 And this young woman, I feel for her because, but she was very serious.
00:06:56.000 I mean, she was, this was the most important thing that could have possibly happened because those eight inches were compromised, right?
00:07:04.000 And she said, if you need a straw, you ask us for a straw the next time you do it.
00:07:08.000 And again, she's not the enemy.
00:07:10.000 She's the opportunity.
00:07:11.000 I feel for her. 0.75
00:07:12.000 But it was kind of an example of she's like become a micro-tyrant where, and you guys all experience this, right?
00:07:19.000 Whether the department store or all this, where people who are not elected, people that were not voted for, people that were not sworn into office, are all of a sudden, they have as much power as police officers now, right?
00:07:29.000 In fact, they have more power than police officers in some of these places.
00:07:32.000 And that is not healthy for a republic.
00:07:35.000 That is a form of chaos, by the way.
00:07:37.000 And so that's a really important thing.
00:07:38.000 When you have chaos, then tyranny can ensue like that, right?
00:07:41.000 And when there's a great quote by Cicero, and you guys should all study Cicero, he was a one-year Roman consul.
00:07:47.000 He predicted the fall of Rome, and he actually helped design the American system of government.
00:07:51.000 They derived a lot of our government from him.
00:07:53.000 He said this beautiful quote.
00:07:54.000 He said, the more laws, the less justice.
00:07:55.000 I mean, what a great quote.
00:07:57.000 The more laws, the less justice, right?
00:07:59.000 Because then all of a sudden, you can just enforce whatever you see fit against the people that you don't like.
00:08:03.000 So, for example, they have this mass gathering edict, right?
00:08:08.000 We don't want mass gatherings.
00:08:09.000 They don't believe that for a second.
00:08:11.000 It's a lie.
00:08:12.000 They are lying to you.
00:08:13.000 Why?
00:08:14.000 Because we saw 200,000 people organize up close to each other with no masks for BLM Incorporated all throughout the month of June.
00:08:22.000 They don't believe in that.
00:08:23.000 They don't.
00:08:24.000 They're continually doing this all across the country.
00:08:26.000 Now they say, well, we also don't want people to come in close contact with each other.
00:08:31.000 We want to make, well, then why is the cannabis dispensary open?
00:08:34.000 They say, well, we want to save lives.
00:08:37.000 Well, then why is Planned Parenthood open and the church is closed?
00:08:41.000 Why is it that we've allowed abortions to be legalized during this crisis?
00:08:44.000 I thought it was about saving life.
00:08:46.000 And we know it's not true.
00:08:47.000 And this is something that's really interesting.
00:08:49.000 It's a term that we kind of use sometimes.
00:08:51.000 And I want to kind of actually tell you exactly what it is and it'll kind of click.
00:08:54.000 It's a term called gaslighting.
00:08:56.000 You guys might have heard this before.
00:08:57.000 So gaslighting is something that it's so Orwellian, where they say that we as conservatives do it when they're really doing it.
00:09:03.000 This actually comes from a 1938 play called Gaslight.
00:09:06.000 It's actually a really fun play, where it took place in late 1880s London, where a wife was being manipulated by the husband, where the husband was trying to convince the wife that she was going insane, where he was turning down the light of the apartment incrementally every evening, and she would go to the husband, why is it getting darker?
00:09:24.000 Why is it getting darker?
00:09:25.000 And he would say, it's not getting darker.
00:09:26.000 You're losing your mind, right?
00:09:27.000 So it's a term called gaslighting.
00:09:29.000 It's widely used in psychological circles of someone who's manipulating another person.
00:09:33.000 This is exactly what is happening right now in the news.
00:09:36.000 We're like, wait a second, why is it that we are allowing 200,000 people or half a million people in the streets to scream and go up against each other, but I can't go to church?
00:09:43.000 You're like, oh, no, no, you're not actually seeing that.
00:09:46.000 And it's almost, we're in this very abusive relationship with the American press where they're trying to manipulate us.
00:09:51.000 And you almost are questioning yourself sometimes, right?
00:09:54.000 You're like, am I seeing things?
00:09:55.000 Like, wait a second, we're supposed to believe that it's about the children, yet we keep the schools closed.
00:10:00.000 Like, it's about the mental health of the country, yet one out of four young people have contemplated suicide in the last 90 days.
00:10:06.000 Drug use is on the way up.
00:10:07.000 Sexual abuse is on the way up.
00:10:09.000 Domestic abuse is on the way up, but this is all about health.
00:10:12.000 Like, you have to take a much more holistic view of health.
00:10:14.000 And it's really the term, and really the idea here is this: that there are always people that look for opportunities to be tyrants.
00:10:22.000 It's a very important lesson.
00:10:23.000 No matter what happens, these are generally sociopathic people. 0.97
00:10:27.000 These are people that are very miserable. 0.92
00:10:29.000 They have very little meaning no matter what happens.
00:10:30.000 They're always looking for an opening or an opportunity to use strength to exploit the innocent, right?
00:10:36.000 Or to try to get in the way of individuals that have liberty or have freedom.
00:10:41.000 This last 90 days has been one of those opportunities, right?
00:10:44.000 And we're living through that.
00:10:45.000 And so why the schools are still closed and the department stores are open and Lowe's and Home Deep are open is incredible to me.
00:10:52.000 And so we have to look at this, and I'm going to kind of get four little takeaways and four lessons that I have derived from my traveling here.
00:11:00.000 And two are kind of really depressing and three are not depressing.
00:11:03.000 Okay, so, but they're all honest, okay?
00:11:06.000 So the first of which is this, and this is just a very honest assessment.
00:11:10.000 We are closer to the tyranny that we said would never come to our country than ever before.
00:11:15.000 I mean, we kind of braggadociously stick out our chest.
00:11:18.000 We're like, eh, Cuban socialism, Soviet Union, that'll never happen here.
00:11:23.000 We're America.
00:11:24.000 Like, get that out of your mind right now, like, completely, okay?
00:11:27.000 We are closer to the tyranny that we think we are better than than ever before.
00:11:32.000 And that kind of leads to a second point that's really, I want to challenge a lot of people here, which Dennis Prager said this, and I completely agree, which is that freedom is a value.
00:11:43.000 It's actually not natural.
00:11:45.000 It's not.
00:11:46.000 And this is hotly debated.
00:11:48.000 Some people in Christian circles think that freedom is natural.
00:11:50.000 Some people not.
00:11:51.000 I don't.
00:11:52.000 I think that people want to be taken care of.
00:11:54.000 I think people will obey if they are told.
00:11:56.000 And I think you have to communicate freedom.
00:11:58.000 I think you have to teach freedom.
00:11:59.000 I think you have to get young people to yearn for freedom or else their natural state is going to just want to be taken care of.
00:12:05.000 I would not have said this five years ago.
00:12:08.000 Not everyone agrees with this, by the way, and that's fine.
00:12:09.000 But I've come to this conclusion during this shutdown that most people actually do not seek freedom.
00:12:14.000 They don't.
00:12:15.000 They seek comfort.
00:12:16.000 And again, some people see that differently.
00:12:18.000 I have drawn convinced by how much we have abdicated our rights and freedoms as human beings in the last 90 days.
00:12:25.000 I say, what we have been given, received, right, where we are the recipients of a gift, human beings don't actually yearn for a state of freedom.
00:12:32.000 We actually are in a state of fear.
00:12:34.000 And when we want to choose, we will choose to be taken care of.
00:12:37.000 We'll choose the safer option.
00:12:38.000 Now, mind you, some of that is justified.
00:12:40.000 I'm not completely throwing that under the bus, but I think that if we don't communicate the ideas of freedom, people aren't going to naturally stumble backwards into them.
00:12:49.000 In fact, this was the byproduct of hundreds of years of thinking and fighting and gradual movement towards Western civilization that we're enjoying today.
00:12:58.000 And that's completely different than actually how some people interpret it.
00:13:01.000 They say, freedom is the natural state.
00:13:05.000 That's actually, I don't think that's biblical either, by the way.
00:13:08.000 I don't.
00:13:08.000 And that's why we need Christ, because we have freedom from our sin in Christ.
00:13:12.000 And we built an entire civilization around this idea.
00:13:15.000 And so when we think about it, we should also then, then the extension of that and the inverse is that if freedom is not a value, you should ask the question, freedom is a value, are we communicating that value effectively to young people?
00:13:27.000 The answer is, of course not.
00:13:28.000 Oh my goodness.
00:13:29.000 We're doing the opposite.
00:13:30.000 We're actually communicating that you should be taken care of your entire life.
00:13:35.000 And so, you know what's really hard about freedom?
00:13:37.000 It's a hard thing to grasp.
00:13:39.000 You can't have freedom without responsibility.
00:13:41.000 Freedom without responsibility is just indulgence.
00:13:43.000 That's what it is.
00:13:44.000 So if people are not willing to take responsibility for their actions, for their family, or for their community, then you actually can't have freedom.
00:13:50.000 The other thing that I've learned, and Dennis Prager also said this, and this is a very, very interesting thing.
00:13:56.000 And again, the politicians, they don't even talk about the issues that are actually hitting home for most people.
00:14:01.000 Children are also a value.
00:14:03.000 Now think about this for a second.
00:14:05.000 So having children is not the natural state of humanity.
00:14:09.000 You might say, of course it is.
00:14:10.000 People have been repopulating generally for the last 2,000 years.
00:14:12.000 Let's keep this PG.
00:14:15.000 The participatory act of creating children is natural.
00:14:19.000 The actual creation of children is not.
00:14:21.000 Our birth rate is going down so dramatically this year, we've never seen it before.
00:14:25.000 Like anything like this.
00:14:26.000 You know, we're having 500,000 less babies this year than last year.
00:14:29.000 500,000.
00:14:31.000 We're on the verge of a civilizational collapse, a population collapse the likes of which we've never seen.
00:14:35.000 Now, why?
00:14:36.000 Well, it's because some people say, eh, children, I don't want to have to deal with that.
00:14:40.000 Okay, and that's fine.
00:14:41.000 If that's your decision, I'm not trying to criticize you.
00:14:43.000 But it's not the idea that all of a sudden that having children is the natural desire of every human being.
00:14:49.000 I don't think that is the case.
00:14:51.000 I don't.
00:14:52.000 In fact, there's evidence to show the contrary: is that when you introduce the capacity to not have children, birth rates will go down dramatically.
00:14:59.000 In fact, you see that all across the European world where they are not being able to replicate their culture and their birth rates are going down.
00:15:05.000 In fact, our birth rates are going down so quickly here in America for reasons that are the opposite.
00:15:09.000 Now, if you would have asked a prognosticator or a pundit or an expert in February, what's going to happen to the birth rate because of the shutdown?
00:15:16.000 The conventional wisdom is the birth rate's going to go up, right?
00:15:19.000 Remember, it's like everyone's going to be at home, all this.
00:15:21.000 What happened to the New York City blackout?
00:15:23.000 Wrong.
00:15:24.000 We're seeing it go down more than ever before.
00:15:28.000 That's a tragic thing that's happening.
00:15:30.000 And it's happening for a variety of different reasons.
00:15:32.000 People consider children to be an inconvenience in most major cities.
00:15:35.000 They just do.
00:15:35.000 It's an inconvenience for their ambitions.
00:15:37.000 It's too expensive in a lot of major cities.
00:15:39.000 And the third reason, and this is something that we have to be very honest about, the world is so uncertain, some parents don't want to bring young people into this world. 0.59
00:15:46.000 And that for every Christian, you guys got to pause and be like, what have we done to our country?
00:15:52.000 Where we are having less 500,000 less children this year than last year. 0.96
00:15:57.000 I mean, that's a crisis the likes of which should just pause everything, right?
00:16:02.000 And I'm not saying that we're not living through a crisis right now with the virus.
00:16:06.000 It affects everybody differently.
00:16:07.000 But our reaction to this virus has put us on a civilizational collapse where one out of four young people want to self-exit from this planet, just so you understand.
00:16:16.000 Where we have created things to be so miserable that more people have died of suicide in the state of California, young people, than of the virus under the age of 30.
00:16:26.000 And so that's something that is very, or we just have to have an honest assessment about.
00:16:31.000 Just ask ourselves the question, like, hold on a second, what exactly are we doing here right now?
00:16:35.000 Are we creating quiet and peaceable lives like it tells us to do in 1 Timothy?
00:16:39.000 Or are we creating chaotic and uncertain lives?
00:16:42.000 And especially for young people.
00:16:43.000 And when you design public policy and you're not able to have a civilization that is capable of replicating itself, that should be a fire alarm. 0.96
00:16:52.000 Here's the good news.
00:16:53.000 Here's the three and four, which those are not so good.
00:16:56.000 And you guys know this, but it needs to be said: is that the tyrants that are enforcing these measures are weaker than we originally thought.
00:17:05.000 And they're far weaker than anyone would have thought.
00:17:08.000 These people generally, when they are confronted by decent and reasonable patriots, they will back down.
00:17:15.000 They have just been amazed at how easy this has been.
00:17:18.000 You understand that, right?
00:17:19.000 In fact, the tyrants cannot believe that they canceled Pac-12 football and Big 12 football, Big Ten football.
00:17:26.000 I can't believe they got that done.
00:17:27.000 So here's the I'm a huge college football fan, massive.
00:17:31.000 And of course, I'm, I'm just to be honest, selfishly really upset they canceled Pac-12 football.
00:17:37.000 And my whole family are Oregon Ducks fans, and so it's like really, but here's what I understand.
00:17:41.000 And like, this is how just big of frauds these people are.
00:17:44.000 And I hate to use that language.
00:17:46.000 They say, oh, well, we have football because we want to protect the kids' health.
00:17:49.000 Like, hold on a second.
00:17:50.000 Football is way more dangerous for an 18-year-old than getting the virus.
00:17:53.000 Like, let's just be honest, right?
00:17:55.000 Like, long-term concussive threats.
00:17:57.000 Let's just be honest.
00:17:58.000 You've seen people play football.
00:17:59.000 So is it a war on football or is it a war on public health?
00:18:01.000 Number one, they say, well, it's because we want to stop the spread of the virus.
00:18:04.000 They say, wait a second.
00:18:05.000 So you cancel football and you're a player for USC.
00:18:08.000 Do you think they're more incentivized or less incentivized to try to not get the virus if they're playing football or not playing football?
00:18:14.000 If they're not playing football, they'll go to every party, they'll get up close to everyone, and they have no care and they'll be as reckless as they possibly can because you've removed what?
00:18:21.000 You removed meaning or responsibility from their life.
00:18:24.000 There will be more outbreaks for college athletes because they canceled college sports than if they had college sports. 0.98
00:18:30.000 It's so incredibly foolish what they have done. 0.92
00:18:32.000 But they don't care. 0.98
00:18:33.000 For them, they've been, by the way, they wanted to cancel football for 30 years and they finally have an opportunity to do that.
00:18:38.000 And so, and what's really upsetting is that these student athletes and these families, that quite honestly, a lot of them need a senior college football season to be able to play and participate in, might be robbed from them.
00:18:47.000 They might not actually be able to have an athletic career.
00:18:50.000 But these tyrants, when confronted, will back down.
00:18:54.000 I've seen this in the micro and in the macro.
00:18:57.000 The problem is, is we've been way, way, way too complicit, like incredibly.
00:19:01.000 This church being the outlier, but we have allowed, in my opinion, one of the greatest and most concerted efforts of a religious freedom, the attack on religious freedom in the history of our country.
00:19:13.000 And generally, the American church has just sat idly by, generally. 0.68
00:19:17.000 In fact, they've participated in it.
00:19:18.000 I see my friend David Lane here, who does a great job of activating the American pastors.
00:19:23.000 And there's a fair amount of pastors that are speaking out, but not near enough.
00:19:26.000 Not near enough.
00:19:27.000 And I can tell you from first-hand experience.
00:19:29.000 And this is the fourth lesson that I've learned: is that when we fight, we win.
00:19:32.000 It's that simple.
00:19:33.000 I mean, when we defended in the Senate hearings, it's so funny.
00:19:36.000 I get Republicans ask me, they say, well, Charlie, what do you want to see more of?
00:19:39.000 Let me give you a great example of one just test case of what the entire movement, for those of us that believe in a moral order, whether it be Christians or anyone watching on this live stream, here's the playbook.
00:19:50.000 The playbook is what we did with Brett Kavanaugh.
00:19:52.000 It's that simple.
00:19:53.000 Let me walk you through it.
00:19:55.000 You stay, our negotiating position is he's going to be on the Supreme Court.
00:19:58.000 That's our opening offer.
00:20:00.000 Guess what?
00:20:00.000 It's a non-negotiable.
00:20:02.000 Like, that was basically it, right?
00:20:04.000 What ends up happening?
00:20:05.000 They go after him.
00:20:06.000 They attack him baselessly.
00:20:07.000 They persecute him.
00:20:08.000 Guess what we do?
00:20:09.000 We say, our negotiating position is he's going on the Supreme Court.
00:20:12.000 Like, we don't give an inch, right?
00:20:14.000 And an innocent man with 30 years of flawless service in the circuit court and the D.C. court was completely attacked baselessly, right?
00:20:23.000 What did we do?
00:20:24.000 We said, our negotiating position is he's going on the Supreme Court and we are going to fight.
00:20:28.000 And if you dare go after this man, you're going to have the full wrath of decent and reasonable people.
00:20:32.000 Brett Kavanaugh's hearing was 49%, his approval rating.
00:20:35.000 Post-hearing, 58%.
00:20:37.000 So he went up nine points in the general public opinion, right?
00:20:40.000 So what ends up happening?
00:20:42.000 He gets confirmed.
00:20:42.000 Okay.
00:20:43.000 They raise all this money to get all this fear.
00:20:45.000 You know that throughout their entire convention last week, they did not mention Brett Kavanaugh once.
00:20:50.000 It's so unpopular, they don't even talk about it with their own base.
00:20:54.000 It's so unpopular to mention the Supreme Court that they thought they were going to bork, that they're ashamed of it.
00:21:00.000 Because when we actually stand for something, when we organize ourselves, we say our negotiating position is we're opening our church, no social distancing, no masks, come arrest us.
00:21:08.000 What are you going to do?
00:21:09.000 These tyrants run away.
00:21:12.000 It's that simple.
00:21:20.000 And that's, and we see it.
00:21:22.000 And so, so, and then we just forget about it. 0.99
00:21:24.000 It's like we did this one thing where Lindsey Graham, a friend of mine, not exactly the spiciest politician, he had this beautiful moment, right? 0.98
00:21:31.000 With the Kavanaugh thing. 0.99
00:21:32.000 He comes out.
00:21:33.000 He's like, Bob, he's firing all.
00:21:35.000 And all of a sudden, public approval goes up.
00:21:36.000 People say, like, yes, I want that leadership.
00:21:39.000 And then we come in contact with another point of crisis, like we are right now, and we just forget the playbook of what happens when we stand for truth.
00:21:47.000 Actually, public opinion goes in our favor when we do that, right?
00:21:50.000 And not the opposite.
00:21:52.000 When we cower and we run to the hills, the same happened in early June when no one decided to speak out against BLM Incorporated where they want to destroy the American family, just abolish prisons, abolish the police.
00:22:04.000 As soon as people, very few people, like myself and Dennis Prager and Candace Owens, started to say, wait a second, let's talk about this. 0.51
00:22:11.000 All of a sudden, they went from 68% approval to now they're at 41% approval in the eyes of the general population.
00:22:18.000 Now, not the phrase, but the organization.
00:22:19.000 I want to make it very clear.
00:22:22.000 And we know when we do nothing, when decent people do nothing, that's when evil spreads like wildfire.
00:22:27.000 So let's talk about tyranny.
00:22:29.000 Almost always, tyrants, by definition, they will lead unstable regimes, right?
00:22:34.000 And that's a very interesting thing to think about because when you have tyranny, you will always have some form of chaos happening throughout your society.
00:22:42.000 Three big things about tyrants.
00:22:44.000 Number one, they believe in nothing except power.
00:22:46.000 They don't believe in truth.
00:22:47.000 They don't believe in God.
00:22:48.000 All they believe is assuming more power for themselves.
00:22:51.000 Their source of meaning is getting more power.
00:22:53.000 This is the second thing I've learned about tyrants.
00:22:55.000 And all of you guys know this.
00:22:57.000 They prey on the willing.
00:23:00.000 Think about that.
00:23:01.000 They actually stay away from the unwilling.
00:23:03.000 They go to the people they know that are going to abdicate freedom to themselves.
00:23:08.000 So in some ways, the American church, absent, again, I'm talking to the live stream audience, not you guys.
00:23:14.000 I want to be very clear because there's, you know, I don't want to confuse you guys.
00:23:17.000 You guys are the outlier here.
00:23:19.000 But the American church, because of, I believe, poor theology and what I call comfortable Christianity, I think that Christianity should always be in the public square taking tough stances that make the mainstream culture criticize you. 0.90
00:23:33.000 I think if you're not doing that, you're not in the right place as Christians. 0.56
00:23:36.000 That's my opinion. 0.84
00:23:37.000 I think as soon as you're in the place as Christians where every celebrity thinks like, oh yeah, let's go, then you're doing something wrong, actually. 1.00
00:23:43.000 In fact, it's guaranteed. 1.00
00:23:44.000 And I love this.
00:23:46.000 Matthew 5, 11, blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil, dot, dot, dot, here comes the mic drop moment because of me.
00:23:58.000 So within that little verse, one verse, Matthew 5, 11, you can almost logically infer, in order to be blessed, You should be getting persecuted.
00:24:08.000 You should be getting insulted.
00:24:09.000 And if you're not because of that, then you should ask yourself the question, why?
00:24:13.000 Maybe because I'm not saying the church is essential and salvation is essential and Jesus Christ is essential.
00:24:19.000 And I think that a lot of modern day, like the big American church, which God willing is going to wake up, it's become this place where they're unequipped for the fight.
00:24:31.000 And I want to give them the benefit of the doubt here.
00:24:33.000 And so one of the reasons why you guys have supported Rob and one of the reasons why you guys have been able to enter into this very uncertain moment is you guys have the muscle memory of a fighter.
00:24:45.000 What do I mean by that?
00:24:46.000 It's not the first time you guys have been through something like this, right?
00:24:49.000 Rob has run for office.
00:24:50.000 You guys have dealt with local issues.
00:24:52.000 And so for a church that's active and participatory, you guys are like, okay, this one now, we're ready.
00:24:59.000 But most of the church, they kind of, most of the American church, they kind of get into this moment.
00:25:03.000 They're like, we've never taken a stand for anything.
00:25:06.000 How do we do this?
00:25:06.000 Like, just shut it down.
00:25:07.000 Just live stream at YouTube.
00:25:08.000 It let's go.
00:25:09.000 Like, right?
00:25:10.000 And they're totally disorganized.
00:25:11.000 They have disunity into the body of the church where Rob has trained all of you for years to almost not just be, not only how to handle it, but it's going to happen and here's how we're going to deal with it, right?
00:25:23.000 Because he's had strong biblical teaching for a decade for many of you where this fight actually reaches you.
00:25:29.000 You're like, oh yeah, I know how to do that.
00:25:31.000 We're going to stand for truth.
00:25:32.000 I'm not going to let tyrants rule us.
00:25:34.000 We're going to pray.
00:25:34.000 We're going to ask for counsel and wisdom.
00:25:36.000 We're going to open the church and here's where we are.
00:25:38.000 And you kind of look at the American church.
00:25:40.000 They were so incredibly unprepared for this moment.
00:25:43.000 Unprepared is the word.
00:25:44.000 So I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, right? 0.83
00:25:46.000 I'm like giving them rope here because they, in a lot of different ways, did the kind of rock and roll concert with a TED Talk Christianity, right?
00:25:55.000 Where, fine, but we're never going to say anything that might have the live stream viewer count go down by less than 10, right?
00:26:03.000 It's nothing but feel good, feel good, feel good, feel good, lights, camera, action, boom, give some money, and that's it, right?
00:26:09.000 And that's not the gospel, right?
00:26:10.000 That's not the Bible.
00:26:11.000 That's not life either.
00:26:13.000 And it actually creates, in my opinion, doesn't create disciples.
00:26:16.000 It might create converts.
00:26:17.000 It doesn't create disciples of all nations, right?
00:26:20.000 However, here's the question is that for these churches that are opening, praise God that they're opening.
00:26:24.000 And that actually shows how Rob's true intentions. 0.56
00:26:27.000 See, if Rob was really just all about creating a selfish Christian empire, you'd want those churches to stay closed, right? 0.75
00:26:33.000 Because he's actually one of the few shows in town.
00:26:34.000 He actually cares about what's good for the world and for the kingdom.
00:26:37.000 That's why he wants the churches to be open, right?
00:26:42.000 So, but as the churches are open, memories will fade because that's the way that human beings are built.
00:26:49.000 The question should be this to every one of these pastors.
00:26:52.000 And I hope that your pastors, those that are guests here at this church, I hope that your pastors that are reopening can answer this question.
00:26:58.000 Are you going to be prepared for the next one?
00:27:01.000 Are you going to be prepared when they really come after us?
00:27:03.000 Like, this is just a trial, Ron.
00:27:04.000 Like, this is, but you see their venom.
00:27:07.000 You see their contempt for believers.
00:27:09.000 You see how they consider to be an obstacle to their power grab.
00:27:12.000 Are you guys ready?
00:27:13.000 And the answer is most of these churches are just going to hope it doesn't.
00:27:16.000 They want to be eaten last, quite honestly.
00:27:18.000 They're like, well, just kind of shut us down last, please.
00:27:22.000 And I don't think that's biblical.
00:27:23.000 I don't think that's theological.
00:27:24.000 I don't think that's moral at all whatsoever.
00:27:27.000 And for the pastors that are still not opening, I just have one question.
00:27:30.000 And this should be the number one question you guys ask.
00:27:34.000 What is your line?
00:27:37.000 Very simple.
00:27:38.000 If the line is not now to get involved, what is the line?
00:27:42.000 And if they cannot answer that in 10 seconds or less, then that's a problem.
00:27:48.000 So, for example, some pastor will say, I will never get involved in politics. 0.97
00:27:53.000 Foolish answer. 1.00
00:27:54.000 Very foolish. 1.00
00:27:56.000 Because if you're not going to get involved in the gulags get started up in the Soviet Union, because that's a real thing, like we killed 130 million people in the 20th century. 0.99
00:28:03.000 Okay, not just famine.
00:28:05.000 We intentionally murdered 130 million people, we being human beings.
00:28:08.000 We can do awful things to each other.
00:28:10.000 Awful.
00:28:10.000 So if the line is, I'm never going to speak up, I think that is immoral.
00:28:15.000 As someone who leads a church to say, I will never do anything.
00:28:18.000 Now, if the line is like, well, I'm going to start speaking up when the rail cars arrive.
00:28:22.000 Like, okay, now we know when your stance.
00:28:24.000 Okay.
00:28:24.000 When the rail cars come and people are put on trains, that's your line.
00:28:28.000 Okay.
00:28:29.000 No, this is a definitely serious thing.
00:28:31.000 But if pastors haven't thought through what their line is, and if the line is not now, then they have to be able to articulate it.
00:28:37.000 But if you're trying to tell me if the line is not when the abortion factories are open, the cannabis dispensaries are open, BLM Incorporated is allowed to go in the streets and do whatever they want, you can riot and loot and commit acts of arson likes we've never seen, but the body of Christ was limited to more than 10 or 20 people, whatever arbitrary thing they think, that's like beyond the line.
00:28:55.000 Like that is a demonstrable violation of any sort of compact that we have with our representative governments.
00:29:02.000 And so every single pastor, in my opinion, that you come and lovingly and compassionately do this, by the way, doesn't have to be condemnation.
00:29:10.000 Do not do it publicly.
00:29:11.000 I'm not saying that.
00:29:11.000 But they have to be able to answer it.
00:29:13.000 What?
00:29:14.000 Very specifically.
00:29:15.000 If not now, then when?
00:29:16.000 And if never, goodbye.
00:29:18.000 It's that simple.
00:29:19.000 If the answer is never, then that is, in my opinion, reason to disengage.
00:29:27.000 I'm going to take some questions because that's the most fun.
00:29:29.000 But I want to mention one or two other things.
00:29:32.000 People ask all the time, what can I do?
00:29:34.000 What can I do?
00:29:35.000 Well, you being here is actually doing something.
00:29:38.000 You being here is actually not just supporting the fighters.
00:29:40.000 Now you're in the fight.
00:29:41.000 You all know that.
00:29:42.000 There's a price for being here today, right?
00:29:44.000 So now all of a sudden you guys have incredible amounts of courage.
00:29:47.000 And so good on you for that, because that's a big deal.
00:29:50.000 Also, what you can do, and I said this, I've said this a lot, this is kind of my whole shtick, is, my goodness, double the seriousness of how important you value the education of your children.
00:30:04.000 Please, do not, this is a participant sport.
00:30:08.000 A couple of things on this.
00:30:09.000 Right now, I think God can make good out of all bad things, I really believe, of all things.
00:30:13.000 Right now, we are seeing a crisis happening in our country, but it's an opportunity if we view it as like, wow, they're shutting down all the schools.
00:30:23.000 They're not allowing special needs kids to go to some of these schools.
00:30:26.000 And by the way, that's the thing that really bothers me.
00:30:28.000 These people that say, oh, we care for the children and all this.
00:30:30.000 I'm like, hold on a second.
00:30:31.000 I get these emails that are parents that have taken out second mortgages on their home that go to move to a special school district so that their child can go learn at a special, special needs school, right?
00:30:42.000 It's a very real thing.
00:30:42.000 They go into that school district just for that reason, and they're shutting down the school.
00:30:46.000 And these parents of special needs kids are saying, I have to go work so I can pay this property tax bill so my handicapped son can learn.
00:30:55.000 What am I supposed to do?
00:30:56.000 And they say, oh, we don't have the teacher union, forget it.
00:30:58.000 I'm getting these emails that were just all across the country like you wouldn't believe.
00:31:01.000 That is so incredibly immoral, I can't even put it into words.
00:31:04.000 Immoral is the word.
00:31:06.000 And so, but here's the opportunity.
00:31:09.000 We have a chance to better education in a way that can actually save our country in this opportunity.
00:31:16.000 Number one, I hope you're all realizing the absolute scam and fraud that public education has become in our country.
00:31:22.000 I hope you're all seeing that.
00:31:26.000 Because, man, I'm so pro-education, it's literally all I do.
00:31:32.000 But if we think that endlessly sending taxpayer dollars for teachers that are protesting perpetually, man, I think it's such a disservice to young people in this country.
00:31:44.000 And then, hundreds of school districts across the country, one in Missouri in particular, are making their parents sign waivers saying they will not go watch their kids' Zoom calls.
00:31:54.000 You guys hear about this?
00:31:57.000 Because the teachers are so worried that the parents might actually learn what they're teaching your kids.
00:32:08.000 I want to re-emphasize that.
00:32:10.000 They are making parents sign a waiver to the state saying you don't get involved in what we do to your kid.
00:32:20.000 And that's what you're paying for as taxpayers, by the way.
00:32:24.000 And so then, here's the opportunity.
00:32:27.000 Millions of parents across the country have finally realized what I have to deal with every single day.
00:32:31.000 It's actually awesome.
00:32:32.000 So it's awesome because I feel like I'm not alone. 0.77
00:32:35.000 Parents are coming up like, I had no idea my kid was learning that America is the worst country ever and that men are the problem. 0.59
00:32:40.000 I'm like, well, okay. 0.97
00:32:47.000 Praise God that you know now.
00:32:48.000 Like this, okay, right?
00:32:50.000 That's how I could, because I'm like, I've been talking about this for six years, but God's timing will make all things right.
00:32:56.000 So, I mean, but at least that's a positive out of all this, right?
00:33:00.000 So then what do we do about it?
00:33:01.000 And here's where the church can get involved.
00:33:03.000 We have to double our homeschooling population in this country as quickly as possible.
00:33:07.000 Quickly as possible.
00:33:09.000 The church, instead of building another mausoleum to something or whatever, we should be helping homeschooling parents in every way possible, financially and otherwise.
00:33:20.000 We have to double the homeschooling population.
00:33:22.000 It should be a pillar of the Republican Party.
00:33:23.000 We are going to double the homeschooling population in the next five years, as quickly as possible, then double it again.
00:33:29.000 That's one of the few things, by the way, they're going to criminalize homeschooling very soon.
00:33:32.000 They're coming after it like you wouldn't believe.
00:33:33.000 They are going to try to arrest parents that homeschool their kids and say, you have to bring it over to the state.
00:33:37.000 That's the next fight.
00:33:38.000 They're already entertaining it.
00:33:39.000 They're talking about it.
00:33:40.000 There's drafted legislation.
00:33:41.000 It's coming.
00:33:42.000 Again, if you're not going to fight now, then when, right?
00:33:45.000 If you're not going to fight now, then when?
00:33:47.000 So that's the first thing.
00:33:48.000 The second thing is this, man, I pray for those of you that are sending kids off to these, actually not sending them anywhere this semester.
00:33:55.000 For those of you that are opening up the laptop for these kids that are learning from some overly priced institution for a Zoom call, maybe now we can have a real conversation at how colleges are ripping off middle-income families.
00:34:06.000 Like maybe.
00:34:08.000 Because the fact that they are not doing any tuition adjustments for families that are going endlessly into debt so that they can get that diploma, we need to have a real serious movement and say, I'm not doing it.
00:34:19.000 You know, I am not going to pay $38,000 in tuition so my kid can learn a Zoom call of which you are not allowed to record.
00:34:25.000 You're not allowed to publicize.
00:34:26.000 And I thought these professors thought they were all rocket scientists.
00:34:28.000 Don't you want more people to know about what you're talking about?
00:34:31.000 Of course not.
00:34:31.000 Because they're afraid that if people see what they are saying, people might actually know what they are saying and push back against it, which is one of the things that is the last takeaway, which is tyrants need lies.
00:34:46.000 They need lies.
00:34:47.000 When there is truth, when there is visibility, tyranny cannot exist.
00:34:51.000 You think about that.
00:34:51.000 It's like, wow, that makes sense.
00:34:52.000 It's actually that lies are one of the core roots of all evil.
00:34:56.000 The lack of truth.
00:34:57.000 What is Christ?
00:34:58.000 Christ didn't just say true things.
00:35:00.000 He was truth, the embodiment of truth.
00:35:01.000 Therefore, the opposite of Christianity is dwelling in perpetual deception, right?
00:35:07.000 Christ truth, that's the Christian ethic, the pursuit of what is true and whatsoever is true, as articulated in Philippians.
00:35:13.000 The opposite is endless deception, right?
00:35:15.000 Deception being one of the favorite tools of Satan.
00:35:18.000 So when teachers say, you can't go see what I am teaching, that allows them to be tyrants, right?
00:35:25.000 When all of a sudden you're like, why can't I go see that peer-reviewed study and data that says we have to close the schools?
00:35:30.000 It's confidential.
00:35:31.000 That allows tyranny.
00:35:33.000 When things are allowed to be cross-examined, truth, dialogue, truth, all of a sudden, you're able to have a peaceful and stable life.
00:35:39.000 We take that for granted, right?
00:35:40.000 Because we've had it for the last 20 years.
00:35:42.000 We never haven't even challenged it.
00:35:43.000 We're like, yeah, usually the best idea wins, freedom of speech and dialogue.
00:35:46.000 When you remove that, tyranny is allowed to exist.
00:35:49.000 And decent and reasonable people have very little to no voice.
00:35:52.000 And that is why you must contest for truth in every single arena.
00:35:55.000 And even the little things matter, by the way.
00:35:57.000 The things that you might seem like inconsequential, that's actually the most important fight.
00:36:01.000 I think conservatives need to think bigger by thinking smaller.
00:36:04.000 What do I mean by that?
00:36:05.000 Like, okay, yes, we need to win the presidency.
00:36:06.000 Okay, I'm so focused on that.
00:36:08.000 I got, like, I understand it.
00:36:09.000 However, the little things are actually sometimes what leads to the macro tyranny, right?
00:36:17.000 It's the neighbor that says you're not allowed to have that yard sign that says that.
00:36:21.000 It's in violate, right?
00:36:22.000 It's the person who comes up to you and keys your car because you have a bumper sticker they don't like.
00:36:27.000 That little micro tyranny, if it goes unaddressed and you go subservient to it, that's where you get a country that lives under the macro tyranny.
00:36:36.000 And so I think conservatives need to think bigger by thinking smaller.
00:36:39.000 And actually, the smaller stuff is actually harder at times because you actually got to look at people in the white of their eyes and communicate clearly, right?
00:36:46.000 Sometimes it's easier to go send out the Facebook post about re-electing a president.
00:36:49.000 I'm fully supportive of that, by the way, as you well know.
00:36:51.000 It's literally my day job, right?
00:36:54.000 Through our political vehicle, not our nonprofit vehicle.
00:36:57.000 I have to make that very clear.
00:37:00.000 So think on your own level where there is someone using their position of strength to prey on the innocent.
00:37:08.000 That is a tyrant.
00:37:10.000 Especially when it is rooted in deception, arrogance, and bitterness.
00:37:15.000 That is the evil triad, right?
00:37:16.000 Bitterness, arrogance, and deception.
00:37:19.000 Those three things combined together is exactly what we're living through right now.
00:37:23.000 How you dare question me?
00:37:24.000 I'm the most important person in the world.
00:37:25.000 You see all these degrees I have, shut down America again.
00:37:28.000 Like, what?
00:37:29.000 Like, they're deceiving you, and they're so arrogant about it, and they have bitterness within them.
00:37:32.000 Those three things combined together is exactly what we're living through.
00:37:35.000 So, the takeaway is this: for those watching at home, my goodness, open the church.
00:37:40.000 It's okay.
00:37:40.000 We're here for those watching on the live stream.
00:37:42.000 I'm in front of a packed congregation here.
00:37:44.000 Everyone is enjoying themselves and we're worshiping Jesus.
00:37:47.000 That's what every church should be doing this Sunday.
00:37:57.000 Ernest Hemingway had a great quote: things happen gradually than suddenly.
00:38:02.000 I love that.
00:38:03.000 Hummingway is one of the greatest authors.
00:38:05.000 He has such a gift.
00:38:06.000 And you look at what's happening in our country.
00:38:09.000 This thing can turn against them like this. 0.80
00:38:11.000 If the church is open, Christians speak out, you stand for truth, you stand up against the micro-tyrants, all of a sudden, things that you wouldn't have dreamed will have a total and complete reversal.
00:38:21.000 But it takes an activation, right? 0.97
00:38:24.000 It takes this, you might be fired up now to do something, then that's exactly what you have to go do, then to go do something.
00:38:30.000 So let's do some questions, Rob.
00:38:31.000 So, all right, thank you guys.
00:38:35.000 A little different.
00:38:43.000 Charlie, you said micro-tyranny.
00:38:46.000 Yeah.
00:38:46.000 And I want to, before we go to questions, this is my responsibility.
00:38:51.000 The greatest micro-tyranny of all is anyone who allows themselves to sit on the throne of their life instead of Jesus Christ.
00:39:01.000 He's the author of life.
00:39:03.000 You've been fearfully and wonderfully made.
00:39:06.000 He came that you might have life and life more abundant.
00:39:09.000 And when we think we can run our life better than he can, we're in trouble.
00:39:14.000 Because we're living on his dirt, breathing his air, drinking his water, eating his food.
00:39:19.000 And we need to live by his rules.
00:39:21.000 I'm not talking about dominionism.
00:39:23.000 I'm not talking about a theocracy.
00:39:25.000 I'm talking about an individual heart realizing that for which it was created.
00:39:29.000 Good is defined by the object accomplishing that for which it was created to do.
00:39:35.000 A cup is good because it doesn't leak.
00:39:39.000 And we've been created to bring glory to God.
00:39:42.000 Imago Day, we've been creating his image.
00:39:45.000 And liberty comes.
00:39:46.000 Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there's liberty.
00:39:48.000 Now we all know that the tyranny is we've been trying to run things.
00:39:52.000 And deception is what tyranny is fueled with.
00:39:58.000 And we deceive ourselves thinking that we're without sin.
00:40:01.000 Sin is just missing the mark.
00:40:03.000 There's no one in this room perfect.
00:40:05.000 And we have to address that in our own lives before we start carrying a banner of conservatism as though we're going to place that on someone else when we ourselves haven't resolved our own life and reconciled with our own creator.
00:40:18.000 Conservatism is void and empty and brutal without the heart of God.
00:40:24.000 And so those things need to go together.
00:40:26.000 Amen.
00:40:27.000 Anyone who thinks that I'm in this for political reasons, I will tell you that what we do, in a sense, is spiritual.
00:40:36.000 Let me correct that.
00:40:37.000 What we do, in a sense, is political.
00:40:39.000 But the reality is it's all for the byproduct of spiritual.
00:40:43.000 We want people to know Christ that they would be set free.
00:40:47.000 And that's for all of you and those listening.
00:40:50.000 Amen.
00:40:52.000 All right.
00:40:54.000 Question.
00:40:56.000 And by the way, let me qualify this.
00:40:57.000 I'm not asking for a statement.
00:40:59.000 I don't want you to blow the 8.
00:41:00.000 We already have a preacher.
00:41:02.000 We brought him in.
00:41:03.000 I want your question to be short.
00:41:05.000 And I will say we will do a very extended Q ⁇ A after the third service that will become the live stream tonight for those of you that want to hang around.
00:41:12.000 Right here, yes.
00:41:13.000 As soon as you're old enough to be, please, please consider running for president.
00:41:18.000 Please.
00:41:23.000 Very kind.
00:41:27.000 My question is, there's a new.
00:41:31.000 I'm happy where I am.
00:41:32.000 There's a new law, and it's now in the Orange County School District.
00:41:39.000 I don't know if any of these parents know.
00:41:42.000 I know, but it's to take your kid out of your control, send him to a doctor because the little boy mentions I want to be a ballerina when I grow up.
00:41:51.000 So now they're sending him with a Lyft or somebody to a doctor to give them hormones that are irreversible.
00:41:58.000 So are you aware of that?
00:42:00.000 That's not...
00:42:01.000 No, but it does not surprise me.
00:42:04.000 That's only going to accelerate.
00:42:06.000 You give your kids to the state, you may never get them back.
00:42:12.000 Okay.
00:42:16.000 If you had an opportunity to produce a documentary this year, what would it be?
00:42:20.000 Produce a documentary?
00:42:22.000 All the material that we have.
00:42:24.000 Yeah.
00:42:27.000 On the whole documentary, I mean, I think that if there was something, the story that needs to be told is the human cost of the lockdowns.
00:42:33.000 It's a very important thing.
00:42:35.000 See, I have a rule for myself, and my girlfriend Erica will tell you.
00:42:40.000 I try not to be sitting around things that could become projectiles around televisions because I just get so angry about certain things.
00:42:48.000 One of them is when people say, Mayor Eric Garcetti is the worst at this.
00:42:54.000 And the other day I was watching something with him on television, and he's like, yeah, how has the virus impacted your business?
00:43:01.000 They tell us, I say, wait a second, hold on a second.
00:43:03.000 The lockdown impacted their business, okay?
00:43:06.000 Your reaction to the virus impacted their business, okay?
00:43:10.000 And they're conflating the two as if there was not a lesser choice that could have been made for these small business owners.
00:43:18.000 The decision that needs to be made is the kids that committed suicide during this, the drug use that is up, the broken families, the sexual abuse, the domestic abuse, the business that will never come back, the hopelessness and the absolute disruption of America for what?
00:43:31.000 And did it actually do what they said it was going to do?
00:43:33.000 That's the documentary that needs to be told.
00:43:42.000 I'm going to throw two questions at you.
00:43:43.000 The first one was: if we're dealing with micro-tyranny, can't our response be this macro response to micro-tyranny and then as people of faith and engaged in the process?
00:43:55.000 And then, secondly, the separation that we're seeing in the country with church and politics, from your estimation, what's the best way to marry that and bring it back together? 0.99
00:44:06.000 Yeah, well, the first thing is, yeah, I mean, of course, a macro response in November would be a great thing to all these micro-tyrannies. 1.00
00:44:12.000 I'll tell you what, that would be great. 1.00
00:44:13.000 But in a lot of ways, that won't guarantee the micro-tyrannies will go away. 1.00
00:44:19.000 And so I don't look at that. 1.00
00:44:21.000 I think it's more placebo than anything else.
00:44:22.000 I actually don't think that will solve it.
00:44:24.000 I think that most tyrannies arise, and we saw this in the Soviet Union, is because decent people don't actually have dialogue with tyrants.
00:44:32.000 And that's a very interesting thing to think about.
00:44:34.000 It takes a lot of courage.
00:44:36.000 And you think right now, you're like, man, you're right.
00:44:38.000 My neighbor is out of line right now, but I've decided to say nothing.
00:44:41.000 Well, then you're allowing that tyranny to only go to another person.
00:44:44.000 You're allowing the predator to continue on.
00:44:47.000 And so don't look for that kind of, God willing, a triumphant victory in November.
00:44:52.000 And all of a sudden, the person in Starbucks is going to be pleasant.
00:44:54.000 Like, that's not exactly going to be the case, right?
00:44:56.000 It's not.
00:44:57.000 And by the way, that's a great opportunity to share the gospel, right?
00:45:00.000 And we see this at Turning Point USA.
00:45:03.000 I mean, people, if you have compassion and love and truth with somebody, it doesn't mean you have to be intolerant of lies.
00:45:10.000 All of a sudden, these people are actually looking for that, especially the people that indulge in that.
00:45:14.000 Have you noticed, especially with Prager Hugh, and at Turning Point USA, that the tech oligarchy has just rampant censorship.
00:45:22.000 And it's beyond censorship.
00:45:23.000 It's beyond censorship, where they're just taking them off platforms.
00:45:26.000 Yeah, I mean, look, this is, I mean, again, we could get into this after the third service in greater detail.
00:45:32.000 But I say this, and I don't say this lightly.
00:45:35.000 I am a free market capitalist who believes the tech companies need to be broken up.
00:45:39.000 And I don't say that lightly.
00:45:40.000 I don't.
00:45:41.000 I think that what was my whole speech about tyranny, right?
00:45:45.000 Well, when you can concentrate so much power in the hands of a group of companies that are more powerful than your government, then what is the proper reaction to those companies?
00:45:56.000 So the question is, are we going to allow freedom of speech and dialogue to be just destroyed by 25,000 at most hyper-educated secular leftists that are earning $300,000 a year that will eventually destroy everything we believe in through search results, video manipulation, search engine optimization, and all that?
00:46:17.000 So I don't say that lightly.
00:46:19.000 And I think that as we become more digitized, we need to be on the right side of this.
00:46:23.000 And the right side is that there should almost be like a digital civil rights act that says that you as a human being have the right to expression, exploration without people manipulating within your own search of information.
00:46:37.000 And that is not the case right now.
00:46:39.000 I mean, I'll give you a great example.
00:46:40.000 I had those nine doctors on my YouTube feed that spoke out in a contrarian fashion with data.
00:46:46.000 And YouTube, of course, took it down.
00:46:48.000 Now it's back up on the YouTube channel because we negotiated with them.
00:46:50.000 I'm streaming live on YouTube right now.
00:46:52.000 And so it's a tricky dance that I dance, but I also am very clear with my position.
00:46:57.000 I have benefited from social media, but I know that they will shut me off if we do not make changes.
00:47:02.000 Like, I will digitally disappear at a moment's notice as soon as they want that to happen.
00:47:07.000 And by the way, that is a form of assassination.
00:47:10.000 Our little church, so the governor requests that we do strictly live stream.
00:47:14.000 So we do live stream and we had in our live stream embedded without announcement a small two-minute clip of one of the frontline doctors.
00:47:25.000 YouTube found it and took our video down, censored it.
00:47:29.000 Could you imagine if they applied that kind of focus towards pedophilia in the country and taking it off the internet where we would be?
00:47:37.000 True.
00:47:39.000 I mean, so I challenge everyone watching this and everyone here to think of these tech companies.
00:47:47.000 What would you think of them if they were a government?
00:47:49.000 Just thought exercise.
00:47:51.000 You wouldn't tolerate this for a second.
00:47:54.000 Why is it different?
00:47:55.000 It's a private company.
00:47:56.000 I get that.
00:47:57.000 It is a higher standard.
00:47:59.000 But that is not an excuse to allow tyranny to exist.
00:48:02.000 People have said create a competitor.
00:48:04.000 Not realistic.
00:48:05.000 People have said to wait for an entrepreneur to disrupt them.
00:48:08.000 They're going to fall flat on their face.
00:48:09.000 That's not going to happen.
00:48:10.000 Because of technology, because how they can work themselves out the Matthew principle and buy companies on a huge multiple, they are on pace to be a super government within our own country.
00:48:20.000 I don't have tolerance for tyranny nor should anyone else.
00:48:23.000 Yeah.
00:48:23.000 Folks, what we're going to do, I'm going to have the worship team come up.
00:48:26.000 I've got two questions here.
00:48:28.000 We might be able to get them both answered.
00:48:29.000 I don't know.
00:48:29.000 But this service is critical because the parking lot gets slammed.
00:48:35.000 But I'm going to tell you, if you want to stick around for the one o'clock, at the conclusion, or even come back, at the conclusion of the one o'clock service, Charlie and I are going to stop the live stream and then we're going to recalibrate the cameras and we're going to pre-record what will be tonight's live stream at seven.
00:48:54.000 So we'll be able to answer dozens of things.
00:48:55.000 And we're going to sit on and we're just going to answer questions until he's wheels up out of Camarillo to head back.
00:49:02.000 So if you want to stick around for that and you have questions, bring them.
00:49:05.000 The one question we did have was, how do we show the difference between the candidates running for office with a biblical worldview?
00:49:12.000 And my answer was, we're producing voter guides.
00:49:16.000 We'll provide that for all the folks.
00:49:18.000 Wherever you go to church, they should be providing voter guides.
00:49:21.000 We break it down by biblical standards and where they stand on each of them by their own statements.
00:49:26.000 Do you have anything you want to add to that?
00:49:27.000 Yeah, I mean, look, yes.
00:49:30.000 So I wrote a whole book on it.
00:49:34.000 So, which is actually, can I do a shame?
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00:50:09.000 Okay, with that being said, look, I mean, if you want to hand over our entire government and civilization to a group of bitter, arrogant, secular leftists, then Joe Biden is absolutely your candidate.
00:50:20.000 If you want someone who has been the first candidate to speak at the March for Life, the most pro-life president in American history, appointed Dorsich and Kavanaugh, 200 circuit court judges, moved the embassy to Jerusalem, recognized the Golan Heights, is unafraid to have pastors pray around him, who has contested in the public arena for religious freedom before the shutdown actually called out China and continues to do, which is the number one enemy.
00:50:45.000 That's exactly right. 0.66
00:50:46.000 Number one enemy of religious freedom across the planet and is the greatest threat to those of us that believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ.
00:50:52.000 It's not even a question.
00:50:53.000 It's not even the same ecosystem.
00:50:55.000 In fact, I am trying to find, and this goes out to the public, I want to find a Christian pastor who supports Joe Biden.
00:51:02.000 I would love to have a conversation with them filmed.
00:51:04.000 Love that because I do not understand how anyone who can believe in the gospel and believe in the truth of the Bible then can go vote for someone who supports a million abortions a year, closing down the churches, is increasingly open-minded to the most horrific aspects of our society, wants to put younger, more radical versions of Ruth Bader Ginsburg on our courts and also persecute Christians.
00:51:24.000 That's someone, I think that we as Christians should be louder and more confident of how we should not stand for this secular, humanist, leftist nonsense to get even close to the U.S. presidency.
00:51:40.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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