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00:01:41.000It's kind of a wonky in the weeds in a good way type deal.
00:01:45.000So we just started this year trying to help for leading up to the election because everybody has all these complex questions about what's going on.
00:01:53.000And, you know, we've known this in Arizona for the past six years.
00:01:56.000Everybody's like, what's going on in Arizona?
00:02:00.000You can get it wherever our podcasts are.
00:02:01.000We have Austin Smith, Brett Galaszewski, who's on our team in Wisconsin, our entire Georgia team, Cooper O'Reilly, the entire team that's down there.
00:02:10.000And we're keeping everybody just informed on what's happening.
00:02:13.000And we'll have a lot more, especially when it comes to organizing, mobilizing in those states as we head into the election.
00:02:20.000We have really led at Turning Point Action.
00:02:21.000We are way ahead of the curve talking about how Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia are going to turn the whole thing.
00:02:33.000That's what we've been saying about the RNC, right?
00:02:35.000It's like we should have been talking for now years about these states.
00:02:40.000And, you know, now it's finally people are like, oh, yeah, maybe we need to, this is how it always works out, right?
00:02:45.000Now we need to kick into high gear in Arizona.
00:02:47.000It's like, well, nobody's done anything in Arizona.
00:02:49.000And it takes years to put the bodies on the ground that you need to win.
00:02:53.000And this is really what the entire conversation has been about, which is you cannot expect to hire people in July of the election year and win an election that's as closely contested as Arizona will be, as closely contested as Wisconsin will be.
00:03:08.000These are the places where Democrats are putting, they're outspending us 10 to 1, 20 to 1.
00:03:15.000How many people do the Democrats have on the ground?
00:03:17.000Yeah, I mean, the expectation that we have is that the Democrats will have well over a thousand full-time people on the ground in Arizona.
00:03:24.000We know that they are getting a little bit nervous because of the work that we're doing and the polling that's coming out that's so negative on Joe Biden and Kirsten Sinema being in the race against Ruben Gallego.
00:03:36.000So those are good positives for us to even go harder.
00:03:39.000I mean, the faster that we can chase the Democrats out of the state of Arizona, the sooner we can focus more on the blue wall with Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
00:03:53.000And if you take more than one, you look like Trump in 2016, which is just like, you know, that, you know, Pikachu meme with like, you know, catching them off guard.
00:04:02.000But we're heading in that direction right now.
00:04:04.000Yeah, I think Georgia is going to, we have Josh McCoon.
00:04:14.000Yeah, I mean, look, right now, here's the deal.
00:04:17.000What I know about Arizona, Wisconsin is that we are going to, and we are working with outside groups to bring more bodies full-time than have ever been put in the field before for Arizona, Wisconsin.
00:04:31.000So the Mother Jones people listening, all of our leftists listening, I hope you'll clip this and report it.
00:04:36.000We're going to have more bodies than what they're going to expect.
00:04:39.000Whatever they expect, we're going to have more than.
00:04:42.000And so for those reasons, you know, now the Democrats are going, man, should we shift gears and focus more on Michigan to make sure we don't have a big hiccup there?
00:04:52.000Because that will just be totally embarrassing.
00:05:34.000Think about a stepping stone situation here, too, is that you have some Democrats that have defected to independent who are probably going to vote Republican that we're seeing.
00:05:44.000We've got to do all the data analysis and numbers and make sure that we drive the right people out.
00:05:48.000But that's a good sign for us in Arizona.
00:07:18.000For the Democrats, because there's a lot of old-timer Democrats, you know, white Democrats who are going to vote for RFK.
00:07:24.000In Arizona, they know the registration number.
00:07:27.000So if the numbers look like they're outside of the moneyball equation that they have, that's the easiest one to do the equation.
00:07:33.000If they run the equation, it doesn't work, they're going to pull out.
00:07:36.000So that comes down to basically the middle ground of those three states, which is Wisconsin that doesn't have partisan voter registration, but then also has a spread all across the state.
00:08:44.000Which is actually, turns out all the work that we've been doing at Turning Point, this is going to prove why we've been so good with this is that even though, obviously, you're never going to be able to make a massive dent on the institutional play that Democrats have with young people.
00:09:04.000But what you can do is make sure that your people like your guy the most.
00:09:09.000And that's what we've done really well.
00:09:10.000But also, I mean, I think you look at young men.
00:09:12.000I think young men, I think that Trump could win the young male vote on campus.
00:09:17.000But what will happen for sure is that RFK will pull enough Democrat votes away that it's going to put Democrats in a very solid third place.
00:09:44.000Because they need a breakage point because they may not be ready to vote for Trump, but divorcing themselves from the Democrat Party is they're ready for it.
00:09:54.000And if this election does one thing outside of electing Trump, I hope the one thing that it does is the RFK gets on the ballot in as many places as possible and makes it okay for people to divorce themselves from the Democrat Party.
00:10:07.000I disagreed six months ago, but I mean, I live in reality.
00:10:10.000I'm seeing more and more evidence that RFK is pulling more from Democrats than Republicans.
00:10:53.000They know that 90% of permanent change comes from the mind, and they work on eliminating the reason you gain this weight in the first place.
00:10:59.000There's no shortcuts, pills, or injections, just solid, science-based nutrition and behavior change.
00:11:03.000And finally, probably most importantly, I lost 30 pounds.
00:12:07.000Well, I mean, the way that, and again, we've been saying this till our face is blue, right?
00:12:11.000We're blue in the face here, and telling people that the entire way that the Democrat Party operates now on the left, and we say Democrat Party, it's really leftist organizations that are Soros run and funded.
00:12:22.000These groups on the outside play a money ball game.
00:12:25.000So what they do is they take the analysis of all these different pockets of where they get votes from and they identify how things are trending for Republicans.
00:12:35.000And then they overlay all of that and they go, okay, how likely is it that we can actually win and how many bodies would it take to win?
00:12:41.000And so the, you know, the one thing that we're talking about is if we just do some of this show up work, it makes it more difficult for them because they can't, there are anticipations that we do basically nothing, right?
00:12:52.000So if we do some of this work, then great, then that's going to make it harder for them.
00:12:57.000If we fight back on election integrity and try to, you know, return the rules to the way they used to be, that makes it harder for them.
00:13:04.000But this other part is these outside candidates.
00:13:08.000You know, you talk about independents, you talk about Green Party, you talk about all these different people, other independent candidates.
00:13:15.000Then it starts skewing the data because then they go, oh, wait, how we target low-propensity independents now becomes far more complex because a low-propensity independent may already be more likely to vote for RFK.
00:13:29.000And so for that reason, now they have to go back to doing hard work to convince independents that they shouldn't vote for RFK and they should vote for Joe Biden.
00:13:38.000They want to deal with in the reality of like they can just tell independents how bad Trump is or how great abortion is and just like snatch their vote up.
00:13:47.000That may not be possible in this election cycle.
00:13:51.000And so the fact that the Democrats are now saber-rattling at RFK, they were silent on RFK for about six months, which I think they're seeing more and more evidence that he is.
00:14:02.000And by the way, the real clear politics average, again, this is just polls, but polls can directionally tell you a story.
00:14:30.000And again, remember, he's not getting the way that the Democrats have structured this in most of these states is they've utilized the Senate races and the down ballot races to benefit Joe Biden.
00:14:42.000So in 2022, we saw this with certain races.
00:14:45.000Obviously, there wasn't a presidential, but the down ballot races, the congressional races, how they supplemented the U.S. Senate races really mattered.
00:14:52.000And then we saw this in 2020 where these U.S. Senate races really helped propel the conversation.
00:14:58.000So they put Joe Biden in a basement and they put the people forward who they want to have the conversations.
00:15:04.000And we saw this in, again, in 2020 with the Senate situation, right?
00:15:10.000And so you have this whole complex issue now where it's like, well, they can't really do that because RFK messes up everything for them.
00:15:19.000And so the Senate races now become even now at their imperil with the Senate races in some of these states because RFK's impact on the U.S. presidential race now makes it far less important for them to fund the things and work up ballot from those races.
00:15:36.000What's fascinating here is if you look at the real clear politics polling, Quinta Piak, The Messenger, Harvard Harris, Fox News, they all have different numbers of Biden and Trump.
00:16:38.000No, I'm saying like in states like New Hampshire, I'm telling you this is like it's it's going to be for sure over in a lot of these states, but like states like New Hampshire, even New Jersey, like look, Trump only lost New Jersey in 2020 by like this though.
00:17:17.000We had last month saving babies with pre-born by providing ultrasounds.
00:17:21.000And we're doing again this year what we did last year.
00:17:24.000We're going to stand for life because remaining silent in the face of the most radically pro-death administration is not an option.
00:17:29.000As Sir Edmund Burke said, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing, and we're not going to do nothing.
00:17:35.000Your gift to pre-born will give a girl the truth about what's happening in her body so that she can make the right choice.
00:18:35.000And again, because they're not polling in some of these places, and our good friend Rich Barris could probably speak to this a little bit more poignantly because he tracks all these different polling methodologies.
00:18:46.000But again, the independent thing is so new still to everyone that the way that a lot of pollsters look at independents is they're actually like true Democrats or true Republicans, even though they're registered independent.
00:18:58.000So independents haven't had a real option in a lot of these races for a long time in these states that matter.
00:19:04.000And so you have a situation that's coming up here in Arizona where Arizona is 33% independent, right?
00:19:10.000There's a lot of like Republican-leaning independents.
00:19:13.000There's a lot of damn leaning independents, but then there's like independents who are like, I hate both parties.
00:19:20.000And no one really knows that true number.
00:19:22.000And no one knows that body to go target because that's a different political class than the right-leaning independents and the left-leaning independents.
00:19:30.000So what you could be seeing in some of this polling is actually an underrepresentation, even though it's been consistent for Kennedy.
00:19:38.000They're not polling enough independents in the right pocket of independence to really get a good idea of his support base.
00:19:52.000No labels at this point, do we want no labels to enter the race?
00:19:57.000So, you know, the way that they're trying to do it, they're trying to keep no labels off the ballot by a number of different things.
00:20:05.000I don't think no labels is structurally together because a lot of the leftists that were involved in no labels are now realizing that this is just only detrimental to Democrats.
00:20:13.000They've lost a lot of steam, a lot of gusto.
00:20:15.000Well, they've intentionally lost gusto.
00:20:16.000They've peeled all the people who supported them early on have peeled back support, going, oh, this isn't helpful to our cause into not electing Donald Trump.
00:20:25.000So they've now peeled significant support because they don't have like a real strong presidential ticket.
00:20:31.000If they had that, then that would be a different story, but they don't have that.
00:20:35.000And so if Joe Biden, you know, all those, I think that there was an element here with no labels.
00:20:41.000And for those that are at home, no labels is a political party that was formed.
00:21:07.000But it's seemingly more, as the days go on, it seems more and more likely that that's not going to happen and that they're just going to shelve the no labels strategy for a different election cycle.
00:21:24.000Are they going to try to field some sort of fake libertarian to hurt Trump?
00:21:29.000Because that's a model they've used for a while.
00:21:31.000Yeah, we haven't seen a real strong libertarian conversation going on, but you almost have to assume they have to because, I mean, at this point, Jill Stein and Cornell West are looking like they're going to pull somewhere in the ballpark of 4% to 5% of the votes for Democrats.
00:22:17.000So every state requires, like Arizona requires signatures or, you know, a party to access.
00:22:24.000So he's not going to make the ballot in every state would be my guess.
00:22:28.000But if he makes the ballot in certain states that matter, then that is good.
00:22:33.000The big question, the big concern for a lot of these outsider candidates, whether it's Cornell or it's RFK, is is he going to drop out because he doesn't get on enough states?
00:22:45.000And that's really the pressure point that they're trying to do.
00:22:46.000They're trying to block him from at least, you know, the important states and then the states that are going to make a difference.
00:22:53.000And this is where Republicans, especially ones in red states, we should be, oh, let's, you know, make sure you get on the ballot, guys.
00:23:01.000You know, when you talk about democracy and pro-democracy elements here, Democrats, let's make sure all these different candidates are able to have ballot access.
00:23:10.000So, you know, there's nothing wrong with, you know, Republicans trying to, you know, clear the pathway for those guys to have access.
00:23:18.000I do hope that we don't trip over ourselves in that process.
00:23:21.000So if there was a checklist of election integrity stuff that needs to get done that realistically can get done in these states, what would they be?
00:23:31.000So you get emails every day about election day.
00:23:33.000So first and foremost, so changing gears here.
00:23:35.000First and foremost, we have to make sure chain of custody is completely managed.
00:23:39.000So, the biggest issue in election integrity is that the Democrats have implemented all these different processes in order to mask chain of custody, which means tracking where your ballot actually goes after you put it in the machine, tracking where your ballot goes actually when you mail it in.
00:23:57.000The more hands that it touches, the more opportunity there is for fraud, losing it, like something happening to your ballot.
00:24:04.000And so, there needs to be a shorter chain of custody in each of our states.
00:24:07.000And if there's one thing to focus on in the most simple words here, that's number one.
00:24:12.000Number two is trying to prevent any extension, expansion of mail-in voting, drop boxes that are unwatched, making sure that voter rolls can get cleaned up as easily as possible.
00:24:30.000The third thing that people aren't paying attention to is what we call overseas ballots for particularly the military and members of the State Department.
00:24:40.000So, what we've noticed is that Democrats are re-registering members of the State Department who are Democrats over the number of our Republicans who are military, and they can literally fax these in.
00:24:50.000They can take pictures of them and send them in.
00:24:53.000And so, Arizona, for example, went from a vast majority being Republican, being military members overseas to now.
00:25:00.000All of a sudden, you have all these State Department members and everyone else that all of a sudden they live in Arizona that are faxing these in.
00:25:06.000Now, do they need to show residency in Arizona or can they just declare?
00:25:24.000Like, you don't even have to have a voter registration to a house.
00:25:27.000It can be literally in a dirt field, uh, like homeless people.
00:25:31.000So, if you're just this kind of like very left-wing bureaucrat in Paris, you could just say, I live in Phoenix.
00:25:38.000Yeah, so what they have is like an infrastructure, we believe, of multiple organizations that re-register these bureaucrats to states that matter.
00:25:45.000And so, you know, this is this is an issue, like the federal-only ballot issue, right?
00:25:51.000Where illegals are voting in our elections via federal-only ballot.
00:25:55.000This is also a federal issue, which our members of Congress could champion right now.
00:26:00.000Our Freedom Caucus, in my opinion, should be championing the Yuokava issue, the uniform officer voter issue.
00:26:11.000They should be championing the federal-only ballot issue, right?
00:26:16.000Where this is like, we're not doing anything until both these things get fixed.
00:26:21.000A functioning and flourishing RNC, what could the RNC do here?
00:26:24.000Well, the RNC, for example, and this is part of what I think a lot of people have been rightly criticizing the RNC of, is like, you know, voter, uh, voter issues happening in our presidential preference elections.
00:26:39.000So, one of the things that the RNC, I've never met a legitimate Republican who supports same-day voter registration and wide open primaries so that Democrats can vote in these elections, like what's happening with Nikki Haley trying to convince Democrats to vote for the RNC could shut down all these elections and say only Republicans can.
00:26:58.000We could institute at the state party level rules that say that you have to be registered as a Republican X amount of days before, X amount of years before, so you can vote in a presidential.
00:27:09.000I mean, these are things that the party itself can do that can control these things, but we don't do them, you know?
00:27:14.000And so, you know, this is the reason why so many voters and so many activists go crazy because they're like, you know, the RNC's, you know, the Republican Party is not serious about these things because they could do this with the presidential preference, which is just a preference election.
00:27:30.000And so this needs to happen very quickly, though.
00:27:33.000I mean, this is, we're talking about a mass consolidation.
00:27:36.000Yeah, I mean, this is the reason, again, this is the reason why you have to have competent leadership at the RNC.
00:27:40.000This is the conversation that should happen immediately with new leadership in the RNC, which is, look, if you're, if you, if you want to say that you are the face of election integrity, you know, what are you doing on some of these fronts, right?
00:27:51.000What are you doing working with these state parties?
00:27:53.000I said this is we should be suing even if we don't have money in the bank, right?
00:27:58.000Because I believe, you know this, Charlie, and raising money with donors for so long.
00:28:03.000If you do things that are productive, if you do things that are right, the money will follow.
00:28:07.000And so like in Arizona and Georgia, for example, right now, Josh McCoon is on his own.
00:28:13.000He's like kind of, you know, he's not getting this, the kind of support I believe that he should be getting from the RNC.
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00:30:45.000So quite simply, Thursday and Friday of last week, we had some tremendous developments here in Georgia.
00:30:52.000We had on the record testimony from both Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade, the special prosecutor and her boyfriend.
00:31:02.000What we learned is that she hired him, had a romantic relationship with him while she was in control of this no-bid contract, that they hid the relationship, that Nathan Wade was asked about extramarital relationships and his divorce.
00:31:20.000He lied in an interrogatory response, like lying under oath in the courtroom to hide it.
00:31:26.000She never went to some independent expert to say, is this an ethical conflict?
00:31:34.000And the most damning thing of all, in my opinion, they confessed to taking these trips, that Nathan Wade paid for the trips, and the ridiculous explanation that she kept cash in her house and that she reimbursed him with cash.
00:31:48.000She has no record of getting the cash.
00:31:53.000And so I believe that the work that we've done for the last eight months has been totally vindicated in keeping our defendants able to have able legal counsel to get to this point to demonstrate not only that this was a witch hunt against President Trump, our electors and others, but that they were engaged in this scheme for her to essentially receive kickbacks financially benefit by continuing this witch hunt.
00:32:21.000What are the political dynamics on the ground, Josh?
00:32:23.000I mean, I think it's reasonable to expect that Fannie Willis is going to be dismissed or discharged.
00:32:29.000Is this building support for Donald Trump?
00:32:32.000Is this making him a more sympathetic figure on the ground?
00:32:36.000It seems not only to be a legal loss for the bad guys, but also a PR and a political loss increasingly so.
00:32:44.000You know, here's a prosecutor who talked about ethical conduct, who made wild accusations against President Trump, longstanding, well-respected attorneys here in Georgia and our presidential electors, and it's all coming apart.
00:32:59.000And people see this for what it is, which is a gross abuse of our criminal justice system, trying to turn it into a political weapon.
00:33:09.000And as President Trump has so often said, they want to get to me because I'm all that's standing between them and you.
00:33:17.000And so, yes, I've definitely seen among rank and file Republicans continuing consolidation for the president because they see what the stakes are.
00:33:26.000And the stakes are the very future of our republic.
00:33:30.000So there's been a lot of attention on Georgia and this case.
00:33:35.000I want to speak to how we are doing politically.
00:33:38.000We talked about this in Vegas and how we are outpacing Democrats in voter registration.
00:33:44.000You're doing a great job running the Georgia GOP.
00:33:46.000It's going to be largely a turnout game.
00:33:50.000Have the Democrats signaled yet about what their plans are for Georgia?
00:33:54.000Is this going to be a primary state for them?
00:33:57.000Or do you see kind of an in and out, potentially they're going to retreat type strategy?
00:34:02.000They took Georgia by surprise in 2020.
00:34:05.000Have they signaled what their strategy is yet?
00:34:07.000Well, they definitely have field staff on the ground here.
00:34:10.000I think it's going to look a lot like 2020 in that they're going to try to take advantage of voter list maintenance issues, try to push a lot of people to absentee ballots, voter harvesting.
00:34:27.000And so we had a meeting just today to talk about the things we're going to try to do over the next few months to address some of these list maintenance issues, to make it very, very hard for Democrats to cheat.
00:34:38.000The Georgia General Assembly is still meeting, and we at the Georgia Republican Party are working on some additional reforms on top of SB 202 that was passed in 2021 to really tighten up our rules.
00:34:52.000But yes, I'm certainly expecting the Democrats to wage a full court press here.
00:34:56.000They know that if they win Georgia, it becomes extremely difficult for President Trump to get to 270.
00:35:03.000And so that's our working assumption until we see something on the ground to demonstrate otherwise.