The Charlie Kirk Show - Why the Left Now Fears RFK

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00:01:19.000 Joining us now is the head of TurningPointAction TPAction.com, Tyler Boyer.

00:01:24.000 Tyler, welcome back.

00:01:25.000 Well, Charlie, you're the head.

00:01:27.000 We're just here, you know, all working together trying to save the Republic.

00:01:30.000 So it is a team effort.

00:01:32.000 And so, you know, you have this great program.

00:01:34.000 It does very, very well.

00:01:37.000 Swing State Update.

00:01:39.000 We're working on it.

00:01:40.000 Yeah.

00:01:40.000 It's a podcast.

00:01:41.000 It's kind of a wonky in the weeds in a good way type deal.

00:01:45.000 So we just started this year trying to help for leading up to the election because everybody has all these complex questions about what's going on.

00:01:53.000 And, you know, we've known this in Arizona for the past six years.

00:01:56.000 Everybody's like, what's going on in Arizona?

00:01:58.000 Well, swing state update.

00:02:00.000 You can get it wherever our podcasts are.

00:02:01.000 We have Austin Smith, Brett Galaszewski, who's on our team in Wisconsin, our entire Georgia team, Cooper O'Reilly, the entire team that's down there.

00:02:10.000 And we're keeping everybody just informed on what's happening.

00:02:13.000 And we'll have a lot more, especially when it comes to organizing, mobilizing in those states as we head into the election.

00:02:20.000 We have really led at Turning Point Action.

00:02:21.000 We are way ahead of the curve talking about how Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia are going to turn the whole thing.

00:02:25.000 And now I'm reading some articles.

00:02:26.000 Oh, my goodness, it's going to come down to Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia.

00:02:30.000 This is not like deeply profound stuff, right?

00:02:32.000 Well, and that's what's so crazy.

00:02:33.000 That's what we've been saying about the RNC, right?

00:02:35.000 It's like we should have been talking for now years about these states.

00:02:40.000 And, you know, now it's finally people are like, oh, yeah, maybe we need to, this is how it always works out, right?

00:02:45.000 Now we need to kick into high gear in Arizona.

00:02:47.000 It's like, well, nobody's done anything in Arizona.

00:02:49.000 And it takes years to put the bodies on the ground that you need to win.

00:02:53.000 And this is really what the entire conversation has been about, which is you cannot expect to hire people in July of the election year and win an election that's as closely contested as Arizona will be, as closely contested as Wisconsin will be.

00:03:08.000 These are the places where Democrats are putting, they're outspending us 10 to 1, 20 to 1.

00:03:14.000 You have to.

00:03:15.000 How many people do the Democrats have on the ground?

00:03:17.000 Yeah, I mean, the expectation that we have is that the Democrats will have well over a thousand full-time people on the ground in Arizona.

00:03:24.000 We know that they are getting a little bit nervous because of the work that we're doing and the polling that's coming out that's so negative on Joe Biden and Kirsten Sinema being in the race against Ruben Gallego.

00:03:36.000 So those are good positives for us to even go harder.

00:03:39.000 I mean, the faster that we can chase the Democrats out of the state of Arizona, the sooner we can focus more on the blue wall with Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.

00:03:51.000 Take one of those.

00:03:51.000 Yeah, just take one.

00:03:53.000 And if you take more than one, you look like Trump in 2016, which is just like, you know, that, you know, Pikachu meme with like, you know, catching them off guard.

00:04:02.000 But we're heading in that direction right now.

00:04:04.000 Yeah, I think Georgia is going to, we have Josh McCoon.

00:04:06.000 You'll be on here with Josh.

00:04:08.000 It's structurally in the best place of the three states.

00:04:11.000 Is that right?

00:04:12.000 Which one, George?

00:04:13.000 Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia.

00:04:14.000 Yeah, I mean, look, right now, here's the deal.

00:04:17.000 What I know about Arizona, Wisconsin is that we are going to, and we are working with outside groups to bring more bodies full-time than have ever been put in the field before for Arizona, Wisconsin.

00:04:27.000 So I can tell you that.

00:04:28.000 And Arizona's been in the desert.

00:04:29.000 It's literally never had bodies.

00:04:31.000 So the Mother Jones people listening, all of our leftists listening, I hope you'll clip this and report it.

00:04:36.000 We're going to have more bodies than what they're going to expect.

00:04:39.000 Whatever they expect, we're going to have more than.

00:04:42.000 And so for those reasons, you know, now the Democrats are going, man, should we shift gears and focus more on Michigan to make sure we don't have a big hiccup there?

00:04:52.000 Because that will just be totally embarrassing.

00:04:54.000 We got to lock down Pennsylvania.

00:04:56.000 And I think the battle, as you've pointed out, is going to ultimately come down to Wisconsin.

00:05:00.000 I think it's all battleground, Wisconsin.

00:05:01.000 I mean, Georgia is a state where the fanny wheel stuff is falling apart.

00:05:08.000 There's a lot more registered Republicans than Democrats in Georgia.

00:05:12.000 And by the way, every day that increases 1.5 to 1.

00:05:15.000 And that's happening in Arizona, too.

00:05:16.000 Arizona is increasing its conservative base.

00:05:18.000 Has it become more Republican since 2020?

00:05:21.000 So I don't have the exact numbers in front of me.

00:05:23.000 I don't think that's necessarily the case.

00:05:25.000 The independent, so Democrats are still in third place.

00:05:29.000 The independent numbers have increased, but I think independents vote 60% Republican, right?

00:05:33.000 It's a goofy thing.

00:05:34.000 Think about a stepping stone situation here, too, is that you have some Democrats that have defected to independent who are probably going to vote Republican that we're seeing.

00:05:44.000 We've got to do all the data analysis and numbers and make sure that we drive the right people out.

00:05:48.000 But that's a good sign for us in Arizona.

00:05:50.000 That's a really good sign.

00:05:52.000 And you'll still see a ton more people register Republican ahead of this presidential preference that Arizona will have.

00:06:01.000 That'll spike because it's a closed primary.

00:06:02.000 Yeah, because March, you have Arizona's that happens and you have Super Tuesday and all these other states.

00:06:07.000 And so you'll see registrations actually increase.

00:06:09.000 That'll help us with data, right?

00:06:10.000 And I think there's a good chance that the Republican Party will end up number one out of the three, which is good.

00:06:16.000 But Wisconsin, that's not the case.

00:06:19.000 Wisconsin, you don't have partisan voter registration.

00:06:22.000 So it's guessing.

00:06:23.000 So the data matters a lot.

00:06:25.000 Data matters a lot.

00:06:26.000 Get out the vote operations matter a lot, even more so, I would argue than Arizona.

00:06:32.000 Remember, so out of the three critical states, so Georgia has your runoff rule.

00:06:37.000 So outside of the presidential cycle.

00:06:39.000 But not for the president.

00:06:40.000 Yeah, not for the president, right?

00:06:41.000 But for the other, for the other races, you still have that element, right?

00:06:45.000 For the Senate for traditional, right?

00:06:48.000 So that adds a different wrench into the machinery here. 0.95

00:06:53.000 Arizona has partisan voter registration.

00:06:58.000 So you know, basically going in how much you have to do.

00:07:02.000 So they can pitfall the guessing.

00:07:03.000 So what Democrats, I think, are realizing right now is, wow, Georgia we can come to later.

00:07:09.000 We can revisit that because the runoff and everything else and see.

00:07:12.000 But the RFK thing, if he gets on the ballot there, that makes Georgia almost impossible for them.

00:07:17.000 For the Democrats.

00:07:18.000 For the Democrats, because there's a lot of old-timer Democrats, you know, white Democrats who are going to vote for RFK.

00:07:24.000 In Arizona, they know the registration number.

00:07:27.000 So if the numbers look like they're outside of the moneyball equation that they have, that's the easiest one to do the equation.

00:07:33.000 If they run the equation, it doesn't work, they're going to pull out.

00:07:36.000 So that comes down to basically the middle ground of those three states, which is Wisconsin that doesn't have partisan voter registration, but then also has a spread all across the state.

00:07:47.000 Or if it's just a matter of bodies.

00:07:50.000 If they put enough bodies out there, then they could potentially win.

00:07:52.000 Of all the states, I think RFK could, in Wisconsin, he's going to do pretty well.

00:07:57.000 Who knows?

00:07:58.000 I think so.

00:07:59.000 I think, you know, you got a lot of Catholics.

00:08:01.000 So the Kennedy name.

00:08:02.000 And young people seem to grab it.

00:08:04.000 He might actually win the youth vote.

00:08:06.000 So that's what we're seeing, right?

00:08:07.000 So all the polling that we're showing between Biden, Trump, and RFK is the RFK splitting effectively the Democrat youth vote.

00:08:14.000 Which is a death blow.

00:08:16.000 But this is the thing that comes back to the argument that we were having the debate early on about RFK versus.

00:08:26.000 We don't know yet.

00:08:26.000 We don't know.

00:08:27.000 I mean, things can change a lot.

00:08:28.000 But right now, what we're seeing is that young people are not moving off of Trump the same way that they're moving off of Biden.

00:08:36.000 In fact, Trump has a consolidation effect happening, right?

00:08:39.000 Trump's most popular amongst young people in the entire Republican electorate.

00:08:43.000 That's correct.

00:08:44.000 Which is actually, turns out all the work that we've been doing at Turning Point, this is going to prove why we've been so good with this is that even though, obviously, you're never going to be able to make a massive dent on the institutional play that Democrats have with young people.

00:09:04.000 But what you can do is make sure that your people like your guy the most.

00:09:09.000 And that's what we've done really well.

00:09:10.000 But also, I mean, I think you look at young men.

00:09:12.000 I think young men, I think that Trump could win the young male vote on campus.

00:09:16.000 Yeah, it's possible.

00:09:17.000 But what will happen for sure is that RFK will pull enough Democrat votes away that it's going to put Democrats in a very solid third place.

00:09:26.000 And I tell you.

00:09:27.000 If that happens, they're going to have a tough time.

00:09:29.000 Well, and again, this goes back to our work is like moving people from left to center is a win.

00:09:34.000 It's heroic.

00:09:35.000 It's heroic.

00:09:36.000 Like, that's all you have to do with young people.

00:09:37.000 It's all you have to do with some minority communities.

00:09:40.000 Because over time, once they're in the center, they're in a jumping off point to become more conservative.

00:09:44.000 Totally.

00:09:44.000 Because they need a breakage point because they may not be ready to vote for Trump, but divorcing themselves from the Democrat Party is they're ready for it.

00:09:53.000 And that's a good move, right?

00:09:54.000 And if this election does one thing outside of electing Trump, I hope the one thing that it does is the RFK gets on the ballot in as many places as possible and makes it okay for people to divorce themselves from the Democrat Party.

00:10:07.000 I disagreed six months ago, but I mean, I live in reality.

00:10:10.000 I'm seeing more and more evidence that RFK is pulling more from Democrats than Republicans.

00:10:14.000 But I want to put it.

00:10:14.000 And it doesn't have to be by much.

00:10:16.000 It doesn't even have to be by much. 0.99

00:10:17.000 It just has to be the conservative mom influencers are worried.

00:10:21.000 I'm going to tell you about what they're telling me.

00:10:23.000 That kind of like very granola, in a good way, health, wealth, you know, health and happiness influencer group.

00:10:31.000 They're very pro-RFK.

00:10:32.000 So we need to talk about that.

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00:11:49.000 Washington Post, Democrats file FEC complaint against RFK Jr. and allied super PAC.

00:11:54.000 What does that mean?

00:11:55.000 It's a great sign that they know exactly what we're talking about here, which is that RFK is a big problem for them, huge problem.

00:12:02.000 And the data problem is really where the problem is at its epicenter.

00:12:06.000 What does that mean?

00:12:07.000 Well, I mean, the way that, and again, we've been saying this till our face is blue, right?

00:12:11.000 We're blue in the face here, and telling people that the entire way that the Democrat Party operates now on the left, and we say Democrat Party, it's really leftist organizations that are Soros run and funded.

00:12:22.000 These groups on the outside play a money ball game.

00:12:25.000 So what they do is they take the analysis of all these different pockets of where they get votes from and they identify how things are trending for Republicans.

00:12:35.000 And then they overlay all of that and they go, okay, how likely is it that we can actually win and how many bodies would it take to win?

00:12:41.000 And so the, you know, the one thing that we're talking about is if we just do some of this show up work, it makes it more difficult for them because they can't, there are anticipations that we do basically nothing, right?

00:12:52.000 So if we do some of this work, then great, then that's going to make it harder for them.

00:12:57.000 If we fight back on election integrity and try to, you know, return the rules to the way they used to be, that makes it harder for them.

00:13:04.000 But this other part is these outside candidates.

00:13:06.000 So third-party candidates come in.

00:13:08.000 You know, you talk about independents, you talk about Green Party, you talk about all these different people, other independent candidates.

00:13:15.000 Then it starts skewing the data because then they go, oh, wait, how we target low-propensity independents now becomes far more complex because a low-propensity independent may already be more likely to vote for RFK.

00:13:29.000 And so for that reason, now they have to go back to doing hard work to convince independents that they shouldn't vote for RFK and they should vote for Joe Biden.

00:13:36.000 They don't want to do that.

00:13:38.000 They want to deal with in the reality of like they can just tell independents how bad Trump is or how great abortion is and just like snatch their vote up.

00:13:47.000 That may not be possible in this election cycle.

00:13:50.000 Yeah.

00:13:51.000 And so the fact that the Democrats are now saber-rattling at RFK, they were silent on RFK for about six months, which I think they're seeing more and more evidence that he is.

00:14:02.000 And by the way, the real clear politics average, again, this is just polls, but polls can directionally tell you a story.

00:14:08.000 Right.

00:14:08.000 So in the Battleground states, the polls that include RFK are the most interesting to me.

00:14:15.000 The binary polls are not that interesting to me.

00:14:18.000 Just Trump v. Biden, Trump v. Biden.

00:14:20.000 When it's Trump v. Biden and like Georgia, Trump does fine.

00:14:23.000 But when it's Trump v. Biden v. Kennedy, I mean, it is a huge hill for Biden to overcome.

00:14:30.000 Yeah.

00:14:30.000 And again, remember, he's not getting the way that the Democrats have structured this in most of these states is they've utilized the Senate races and the down ballot races to benefit Joe Biden.

00:14:42.000 So in 2022, we saw this with certain races. 0.77

00:14:45.000 Obviously, there wasn't a presidential, but the down ballot races, the congressional races, how they supplemented the U.S. Senate races really mattered.

00:14:52.000 And then we saw this in 2020 where these U.S. Senate races really helped propel the conversation.

00:14:58.000 So they put Joe Biden in a basement and they put the people forward who they want to have the conversations.

00:15:04.000 And we saw this in, again, in 2020 with the Senate situation, right?

00:15:10.000 And so you have this whole complex issue now where it's like, well, they can't really do that because RFK messes up everything for them.

00:15:19.000 And so the Senate races now become even now at their imperil with the Senate races in some of these states because RFK's impact on the U.S. presidential race now makes it far less important for them to fund the things and work up ballot from those races.

00:15:36.000 What's fascinating here is if you look at the real clear politics polling, Quinta Piak, The Messenger, Harvard Harris, Fox News, they all have different numbers of Biden and Trump.

00:15:44.000 They're all over the place.

00:15:45.000 Do you know they all basically have the same number for RFK?

00:15:48.000 Yeah.

00:15:48.000 The RFK number is like 14%, like a drumbeat.

00:15:52.000 14%.

00:15:52.000 It's the most consistent polling number.

00:15:55.000 So they can't agree on who wins, Trump or Biden.

00:15:58.000 Tilt Trump.

00:15:59.000 The RFK number, every polling firm is saying, like, yo, 14% of the electorate wants RFK.

00:16:05.000 Well, here's the scary part with that, too.

00:16:07.000 In most of these polls, they're not actually pulling enough independence in their polls.

00:16:12.000 So you think it could be even higher?

00:16:13.000 It could be higher than that.

00:16:14.000 Do you think RFK could win a state?

00:16:15.000 No.

00:16:16.000 Okay.

00:16:16.000 RFK won't win a state, but his polling may be higher than 14, 15% in some of these states because, again, people don't like Biden.

00:16:24.000 If RFK cracks 20% and Trump has a very strong finish, which he's consolidating Republican support.

00:16:33.000 If RFK cracks 15%, it's over.

00:16:36.000 Well, I don't want to say it's over.

00:16:38.000 No, I'm saying like in states like New Hampshire, I'm telling you this is like it's it's going to be for sure over in a lot of these states, but like states like New Hampshire, even New Jersey, like look, Trump only lost New Jersey in 2020 by like this though.

00:16:55.000 New Jersey.

00:16:56.000 New Jersey.

00:16:56.000 If Trump wins New Jersey, this is the reason why they're saying it.

00:16:59.000 I don't think we should spend any money in New Jersey, right?

00:17:01.000 Yeah.

00:17:02.000 But, and we shouldn't spend any money in Minnesota.

00:17:04.000 But the reason why they're saying this is Trump lost by, I think it was like eight points in Minnesota or something, 10 points.

00:17:09.000 And by the way, you add Cornell West and Jill Stein on top of it.

00:17:09.000 Yeah.

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00:18:16.000 I just want to reiterate this point.

00:18:18.000 If you go to real clear politics, this is a point I've not heard made.

00:18:22.000 So, for example, the Biden number is anywhere between 40% to 33%.

00:18:26.000 It's all over the place.

00:18:26.000 The Trump number is between 37% and 44%.

00:18:29.000 The RFK number is like 14%, Yep.

00:18:34.000 That's pretty remarkable.

00:18:35.000 Yeah.

00:18:35.000 And again, because they're not polling in some of these places, and our good friend Rich Barris could probably speak to this a little bit more poignantly because he tracks all these different polling methodologies.

00:18:46.000 But again, the independent thing is so new still to everyone that the way that a lot of pollsters look at independents is they're actually like true Democrats or true Republicans, even though they're registered independent.

00:18:58.000 So independents haven't had a real option in a lot of these races for a long time in these states that matter.

00:19:04.000 And so you have a situation that's coming up here in Arizona where Arizona is 33% independent, right?

00:19:10.000 There's a lot of like Republican-leaning independents. 0.97

00:19:13.000 There's a lot of damn leaning independents, but then there's like independents who are like, I hate both parties. 0.99

00:19:16.000 I hate Trump. 1.00

00:19:17.000 I hate Biden. 0.99

00:19:18.000 And I'll vote for someone else.

00:19:20.000 And no one really knows that true number.

00:19:22.000 And no one knows that body to go target because that's a different political class than the right-leaning independents and the left-leaning independents.

00:19:30.000 So what you could be seeing in some of this polling is actually an underrepresentation, even though it's been consistent for Kennedy.

00:19:38.000 They're not polling enough independents in the right pocket of independence to really get a good idea of his support base.

00:19:47.000 It could be bigger.

00:19:48.000 I actually don't think it's less than 14%.

00:19:50.000 I think it could be more than 14%.

00:19:52.000 No labels at this point, do we want no labels to enter the race?

00:19:57.000 So, you know, the way that they're trying to do it, they're trying to keep no labels off the ballot by a number of different things.

00:20:05.000 I don't think no labels is structurally together because a lot of the leftists that were involved in no labels are now realizing that this is just only detrimental to Democrats.

00:20:13.000 They've lost a lot of steam, a lot of gusto.

00:20:15.000 Well, they've intentionally lost gusto.

00:20:16.000 They've peeled all the people who supported them early on have peeled back support, going, oh, this isn't helpful to our cause into not electing Donald Trump.

00:20:25.000 So they've now peeled significant support because they don't have like a real strong presidential ticket.

00:20:31.000 If they had that, then that would be a different story, but they don't have that.

00:20:35.000 And so if Joe Biden, you know, all those, I think that there was an element here with no labels.

00:20:41.000 And for those that are at home, no labels is a political party that was formed.

00:20:45.000 Yep.

00:20:46.000 They actually formed in Arizona, which freaked out a ton of Democrats.

00:20:49.000 I think their entire plan was like if Joe Biden kicked the bucket, then they were going to be like, forget the Democrat Party.

00:20:54.000 We'll just go with like the No Labels Party this time around. 0.93

00:20:56.000 And that's legitimately instead of replacing Joe Biden, they may do that element, which is just like trigger this falsetto Democrat Party.

00:21:05.000 You know, after the fact.

00:21:07.000 But it's seemingly more, as the days go on, it seems more and more likely that that's not going to happen and that they're just going to shelve the no labels strategy for a different election cycle.

00:21:17.000 Yeah.

00:21:17.000 So Joe Manchin's not running.

00:21:18.000 And I mean, at this point, then there's still Cornell West and Jill Stein, which do nothing but hurt Democrats.

00:21:24.000 Yeah.

00:21:24.000 Are they going to try to field some sort of fake libertarian to hurt Trump?

00:21:29.000 Because that's a model they've used for a while.

00:21:31.000 Yeah, we haven't seen a real strong libertarian conversation going on, but you almost have to assume they have to because, I mean, at this point, Jill Stein and Cornell West are looking like they're going to pull somewhere in the ballpark of 4% to 5% of the votes for Democrats.

00:21:50.000 That's about right.

00:21:51.000 So that's really bad for them.

00:21:54.000 And it's really closer to almost 10% of the total Democrat votes.

00:21:58.000 That's really, really, that's almost impossible to overcome in any state.

00:22:02.000 And then you add on top of the RFK.

00:22:04.000 Are RFK going to have ballot access issues?

00:22:08.000 They're going to try, right?

00:22:09.000 They're going to go after RFK like they've gone after Trump to try to prevent him from getting on the ballot.

00:22:13.000 And what do you think?

00:22:15.000 Like Arizona can be able to do that.

00:22:16.000 Every state's different.

00:22:17.000 So every state requires, like Arizona requires signatures or, you know, a party to access.

00:22:24.000 So he's not going to make the ballot in every state would be my guess.

00:22:28.000 But if he makes the ballot in certain states that matter, then that is good.

00:22:33.000 The big question, the big concern for a lot of these outsider candidates, whether it's Cornell or it's RFK, is is he going to drop out because he doesn't get on enough states?

00:22:45.000 And that's really the pressure point that they're trying to do.

00:22:46.000 They're trying to block him from at least, you know, the important states and then the states that are going to make a difference.

00:22:53.000 And this is where Republicans, especially ones in red states, we should be, oh, let's, you know, make sure you get on the ballot, guys.

00:23:00.000 You know, let's help out.

00:23:01.000 You know, when you talk about democracy and pro-democracy elements here, Democrats, let's make sure all these different candidates are able to have ballot access.

00:23:10.000 So, you know, there's nothing wrong with, you know, Republicans trying to, you know, clear the pathway for those guys to have access.

00:23:18.000 I do hope that we don't trip over ourselves in that process.

00:23:21.000 So if there was a checklist of election integrity stuff that needs to get done that realistically can get done in these states, what would they be?

00:23:31.000 So you get emails every day about election day.

00:23:33.000 So first and foremost, so changing gears here.

00:23:35.000 First and foremost, we have to make sure chain of custody is completely managed.

00:23:39.000 So, the biggest issue in election integrity is that the Democrats have implemented all these different processes in order to mask chain of custody, which means tracking where your ballot actually goes after you put it in the machine, tracking where your ballot goes actually when you mail it in.

00:23:57.000 The more hands that it touches, the more opportunity there is for fraud, losing it, like something happening to your ballot.

00:24:04.000 And so, there needs to be a shorter chain of custody in each of our states.

00:24:07.000 And if there's one thing to focus on in the most simple words here, that's number one.

00:24:12.000 Number two is trying to prevent any extension, expansion of mail-in voting, drop boxes that are unwatched, making sure that voter rolls can get cleaned up as easily as possible.

00:24:28.000 This is also the biggest thing.

00:24:30.000 The third thing that people aren't paying attention to is what we call overseas ballots for particularly the military and members of the State Department.

00:24:40.000 So, what we've noticed is that Democrats are re-registering members of the State Department who are Democrats over the number of our Republicans who are military, and they can literally fax these in.

00:24:50.000 They can take pictures of them and send them in.

00:24:53.000 And so, Arizona, for example, went from a vast majority being Republican, being military members overseas to now.

00:25:00.000 All of a sudden, you have all these State Department members and everyone else that all of a sudden they live in Arizona that are faxing these in.

00:25:06.000 Now, do they need to show residency in Arizona or can they just declare?

00:25:09.000 It's just you just declare it.

00:25:10.000 So, and so if you're just like a bureaucrat in Tokyo, you could just decide that you live in Arizona.

00:25:17.000 Yeah, I mean, you have to have a mailing address, but that's really it.

00:25:20.000 And the state laws in most of these states are so loose that it's easy, right?

00:25:23.000 Arizona is really loose.

00:25:24.000 Like, you don't even have to have a voter registration to a house.

00:25:27.000 It can be literally in a dirt field, uh, like homeless people.

00:25:31.000 So, if you're just this kind of like very left-wing bureaucrat in Paris, you could just say, I live in Phoenix.

00:25:38.000 Yeah, so what they have is like an infrastructure, we believe, of multiple organizations that re-register these bureaucrats to states that matter.

00:25:45.000 And so, you know, this is this is an issue, like the federal-only ballot issue, right?

00:25:51.000 Where illegals are voting in our elections via federal-only ballot.

00:25:55.000 This is also a federal issue, which our members of Congress could champion right now.

00:26:00.000 Our Freedom Caucus, in my opinion, should be championing the Yuokava issue, the uniform officer voter issue. 0.98

00:26:11.000 They should be championing the federal-only ballot issue, right?

00:26:16.000 Where this is like, we're not doing anything until both these things get fixed.

00:26:21.000 A functioning and flourishing RNC, what could the RNC do here?

00:26:24.000 Well, the RNC, for example, and this is part of what I think a lot of people have been rightly criticizing the RNC of, is like, you know, voter, uh, voter issues happening in our presidential preference elections.

00:26:39.000 So, one of the things that the RNC, I've never met a legitimate Republican who supports same-day voter registration and wide open primaries so that Democrats can vote in these elections, like what's happening with Nikki Haley trying to convince Democrats to vote for the RNC could shut down all these elections and say only Republicans can.

00:26:58.000 We could institute at the state party level rules that say that you have to be registered as a Republican X amount of days before, X amount of years before, so you can vote in a presidential.

00:27:09.000 I mean, these are things that the party itself can do that can control these things, but we don't do them, you know?

00:27:14.000 And so, you know, this is the reason why so many voters and so many activists go crazy because they're like, you know, the RNC's, you know, the Republican Party is not serious about these things because they could do this with the presidential preference, which is just a preference election.

00:27:26.000 It's not even a real primary.

00:27:28.000 And they don't do it.

00:27:30.000 Yeah.

00:27:30.000 And so this needs to happen very quickly, though.

00:27:33.000 I mean, this is, we're talking about a mass consolidation.

00:27:36.000 Yeah, I mean, this is the reason, again, this is the reason why you have to have competent leadership at the RNC.

00:27:40.000 This is the conversation that should happen immediately with new leadership in the RNC, which is, look, if you're, if you, if you want to say that you are the face of election integrity, you know, what are you doing on some of these fronts, right?

00:27:51.000 What are you doing working with these state parties?

00:27:53.000 I said this is we should be suing even if we don't have money in the bank, right?

00:27:58.000 Because I believe, you know this, Charlie, and raising money with donors for so long.

00:28:03.000 If you do things that are productive, if you do things that are right, the money will follow.

00:28:07.000 And so like in Arizona and Georgia, for example, right now, Josh McCoon is on his own.

00:28:13.000 He's like kind of, you know, he's not getting this, the kind of support I believe that he should be getting from the RNC.

00:28:17.000 Arizona for sure isn't.

00:28:19.000 We should be suing on all these like crooked leftist tactics that they're taking to change our election code.

00:28:27.000 And, you know, the RNC should be there being like, okay, how can we help you fundraise for this?

00:28:31.000 That's the, that should be the job of the RNC.

00:28:34.000 It's not hard.

00:28:34.000 It's not difficult, but we should have guys, fighters like Josh McCunn.

00:28:38.000 We have Genus Wobota here in Arizona now.

00:28:40.000 We should be fighting on the front of the election integrity.

00:28:43.000 You know, even if you don't have enough money in the bank to see this through, you got to figure it out.

00:28:47.000 And the RNC has got to help build that.

00:28:49.000 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:28:50.000 A story was just posted.

00:28:52.000 Mark Elias is suing to keep RFK off the ballot.

00:28:56.000 Yeah.

00:28:57.000 The democracy guy is suing to keep RFK off the bat.

00:29:01.000 The pro-democracy.

00:29:02.000 Oh, by the way, he is like commissioned by the central Democrat regime.

00:29:06.000 That means that top-level Democrats are getting worried about RFK.

00:29:09.000 For years and years and years, he was the guy that the DNC went to for all these things.

00:29:14.000 He is now helping build more of him.

00:29:18.000 Yes.

00:29:19.000 They're like repopulating the earth with more Mark Elias' outside the DNC now.

00:29:24.000 It's really scary stuff.

00:29:26.000 And this is why the RNC, this is why the RNC has to get serious.

00:29:28.000 We have to have our own version of this.

00:29:30.000 We have to have battle time figures.

00:29:34.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:30:36.000 Josh McCoon joins us.

00:30:38.000 Josh, I want to talk to you about your tweet here about Fannie Willis.

00:30:41.000 You said the facts that are no longer in dispute.

00:30:43.000 Josh, walk us through it.

00:30:45.000 So quite simply, Thursday and Friday of last week, we had some tremendous developments here in Georgia.

00:30:52.000 We had on the record testimony from both Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade, the special prosecutor and her boyfriend.

00:31:02.000 What we learned is that she hired him, had a romantic relationship with him while she was in control of this no-bid contract, that they hid the relationship, that Nathan Wade was asked about extramarital relationships and his divorce.

00:31:20.000 He lied in an interrogatory response, like lying under oath in the courtroom to hide it.

00:31:26.000 She never went to some independent expert to say, is this an ethical conflict?

00:31:31.000 Is this a problem with my office?

00:31:34.000 And the most damning thing of all, in my opinion, they confessed to taking these trips, that Nathan Wade paid for the trips, and the ridiculous explanation that she kept cash in her house and that she reimbursed him with cash.

00:31:48.000 She has no record of getting the cash.

00:31:51.000 He has no record of receiving it.

00:31:53.000 And so I believe that the work that we've done for the last eight months has been totally vindicated in keeping our defendants able to have able legal counsel to get to this point to demonstrate not only that this was a witch hunt against President Trump, our electors and others, but that they were engaged in this scheme for her to essentially receive kickbacks financially benefit by continuing this witch hunt.

00:32:21.000 What are the political dynamics on the ground, Josh?

00:32:23.000 I mean, I think it's reasonable to expect that Fannie Willis is going to be dismissed or discharged. 0.97

00:32:29.000 Is this building support for Donald Trump?

00:32:32.000 Is this making him a more sympathetic figure on the ground?

00:32:36.000 It seems not only to be a legal loss for the bad guys, but also a PR and a political loss increasingly so.

00:32:43.000 No question about it.

00:32:44.000 You know, here's a prosecutor who talked about ethical conduct, who made wild accusations against President Trump, longstanding, well-respected attorneys here in Georgia and our presidential electors, and it's all coming apart.

00:32:59.000 And people see this for what it is, which is a gross abuse of our criminal justice system, trying to turn it into a political weapon.

00:33:07.000 And so they look at it.

00:33:09.000 And as President Trump has so often said, they want to get to me because I'm all that's standing between them and you.

00:33:17.000 And so, yes, I've definitely seen among rank and file Republicans continuing consolidation for the president because they see what the stakes are.

00:33:26.000 And the stakes are the very future of our republic.

00:33:29.000 Yeah, no kidding.

00:33:30.000 So there's been a lot of attention on Georgia and this case.

00:33:35.000 I want to speak to how we are doing politically.

00:33:38.000 We talked about this in Vegas and how we are outpacing Democrats in voter registration.

00:33:44.000 You're doing a great job running the Georgia GOP.

00:33:46.000 It's going to be largely a turnout game.

00:33:50.000 Have the Democrats signaled yet about what their plans are for Georgia?

00:33:54.000 Is this going to be a primary state for them?

00:33:57.000 Or do you see kind of an in and out, potentially they're going to retreat type strategy?

00:34:02.000 They took Georgia by surprise in 2020.

00:34:05.000 Have they signaled what their strategy is yet?

00:34:07.000 Well, they definitely have field staff on the ground here.

00:34:10.000 I think it's going to look a lot like 2020 in that they're going to try to take advantage of voter list maintenance issues, try to push a lot of people to absentee ballots, voter harvesting.

00:34:27.000 And so we had a meeting just today to talk about the things we're going to try to do over the next few months to address some of these list maintenance issues, to make it very, very hard for Democrats to cheat.

00:34:38.000 The Georgia General Assembly is still meeting, and we at the Georgia Republican Party are working on some additional reforms on top of SB 202 that was passed in 2021 to really tighten up our rules.

00:34:52.000 But yes, I'm certainly expecting the Democrats to wage a full court press here.

00:34:56.000 They know that if they win Georgia, it becomes extremely difficult for President Trump to get to 270.

00:35:03.000 And so that's our working assumption until we see something on the ground to demonstrate otherwise.

00:35:08.000 Josh, excellent work.

00:35:09.000 Next time we'll have you on for longer.

00:35:10.000 Thanks for making the time.

00:35:11.000 Appreciate it.

00:35:12.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie.

00:35:13.000 Appreciate it.

00:35:13.000 Email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:16.000 What a great comprehensive hour this has been, giving you the status of those three states.

00:35:20.000 The takeaway, we can win.

00:35:22.000 It is right there.

00:35:23.000 Arizona and Georgia were within 10,000 votes from 2020.

00:35:26.000 Is right within the margin, everybody.

00:35:31.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - February 20, 2024

Why the Left Now Fears RFK

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