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00:02:45.000I mean, parsing over a word here or there or a count, how it's being interpreted or some sort of legal precedent.
00:02:53.000And it's just really emotional because you can feel that in that courtroom, the facts are so monumental to overcome for the Robinson defense that they don't really have many outs.
00:03:06.000And I don't envy them their role that they have to play in this because there is such a mountain of evidence from the DNA to the ballistics to the confessions to the surveillance video to.
00:03:18.000His Discord chats and all this kind of stuff.
00:03:20.000I mean, I don't know where you go here because.
00:04:05.000The court's determination does not rest on crowd size alone or an assumed probability of wind, ricochet, overpenetration, or bullet deflection.
00:04:17.000It rests on the evidence concerning the location and manner of the shot, the documented position of several individuals in and around the canopy area, defendant's opportunity to observe those circumstances.
00:04:30.000And the preliminary hearing requirement that reasonable inferences be drawn in the state's favor.
00:04:36.000Whether the state can prove the aggravating circumstance beyond a reasonable doubt remains for trial.
00:05:24.000There were targets that had multiple bullet holes in them, and only four hit the target, by the way, the bullseye, out of, I think, over 20.
00:05:33.000But they said if he would have flinched just a quarter of an inch, that moves three and a half feet.
00:05:38.000That moves the shot from that distance, 415 feet, it moves it three and a half feet.
00:05:43.000And I don't know where security was standing, approximate distance to him.
00:05:46.000I'm sure they're going to figure that out.
00:05:48.000I think the judge at one point said two to two and a half feet away for the closest person.
00:06:08.000You on a shooting range, you are not allowed to shoot when anybody's downrange, even if they're 50 feet that way.
00:06:17.000You do not shoot downrange, let alone when 3,000 people are in your line of sight.
00:06:21.000But the judge made a good point that this is a fluid situation.
00:06:25.000People are moving around, they're moving their heads.
00:06:27.000You can't, I mean, it's common sense that, of course, he endangered other people, but he was also targeting somebody for his political speech.
00:06:38.000The big stories out of yesterday, of course, was the big one.
00:06:40.000The big one was when Novak, the defense counsel, started saying that Charlie, of course, said hateful things.
00:06:50.000And I will tell you, I think a lot of people want to know what it was like in the room because they tell you you can't nod, you can't make noises, you can't do anything.
00:06:56.000If you're watching, you have to be just completely stilt and silent.
00:07:01.000But when he said that, nobody could stop and hide the reaction.
00:07:06.000We just started turning around to each other.
00:07:08.000We were half paying attention and we jerked out and I go, Is he saying what I think he is saying?
00:07:21.000There is no evidence of Mr. Robinson having heard or seen anything specific from Mr. Kirk or having expressed anything about Mr. Kirk until the statement, which basically says some hatred can't be negotiated out.
00:08:20.000Not only was that disgusting, not only was that a bad look for him, and I saw one commentator made the point that the defense has been arguing to keep cameras out of the courtroom, but that moment specifically was Mr. Novak playing to the cameras.
00:08:34.000That was him trying to send a message and justify the cold blooded assassination of Charlie.
00:08:42.000Because he's actually making the state's point there, Blake.
00:08:45.000He's saying, well, we don't know that he killed him because of political viewpoints or anything like that.
00:08:50.000But he was hateful and even acknowledged that the text that some hate can't be negotiated out.
00:08:57.000He was trying to say there were so many possible motives, really, for why he could have told Tyler Robinson that you can't specify one that would qualify for an invasion.
00:09:26.000It's almost like Tyler Robinson, like, it's almost like this is so airtight that even these really high powered, high priced attorneys can't figure a wiggle way out.
00:09:37.000I mean, that's really what you're watching here.
00:09:41.000Thank you again to Blake and the team for holding it down yesterday.
00:09:44.000Humans work, as they say, because there was a lot.
00:09:47.000You guys streamed for a long time, man.
00:09:50.000I think we must have been on air close to four hours because you had last minute, we were all prepared to just throw.
00:09:55.000To the hearing, and then they had that delayed some hour.
00:09:58.000They delayed a half hour, then they were debating some media related thing electronic media coverage.
00:10:03.000So that went so we went for an hour at the top, and then they took a lunch break, and then they took a bonus break, and then a bonus bonus break.
00:10:11.000There's always, I mean, it was just we were constantly going in and out, in and out, which honestly, you're kind of grateful for because you have to stay so still.
00:10:17.000I'm not good at that staying still, but let's talk about this.
00:10:20.000So, Mr. Novak claimed to the camera says that Charlie's full of hate, and he specifically, to Blake's point.
00:10:28.000Specifically says that he's hateful towards people that have non gender conforming identities that are gay relationships, all this stuff.
00:11:27.000So, but he told them the truth with warmth and kindness.
00:11:31.000Charlie was actually one of the few people on planet Earth that respected people that disagreed with him enough to hear them out and to engage with them in good faith and say, if you disagree with me, come to the front of the line.
00:11:41.000Charlie obviously would match the energy if you were trolling him, or if you came in bad faith, he would put you in your place.
00:12:11.000Gave more time, patience, and love to people who hated him, hated his guts, and disagreed with him than most people will ever give to even their greatest ally.
00:12:44.000Since like third grade, and I'm currently 19, almost 20.
00:12:48.000I've known basically since then, I didn't start going by like a different name until seventh and eighth grade.
00:12:55.000I just don't know, like, with the whole medical stuff, like what's true, what's not, what's helpful, because I've heard so many different opinions.
00:13:03.000First of all, thank you so much for that.
00:13:05.000And so, I'm gonna have an opinion that very few people will ever tell you, which is I want you to be very cautious putting drugs into your system in the pursuit of changing your body.
00:13:17.000I instead Encourage you to work on what's going on in your brain first.
00:13:21.000I think what you need first and foremost is just a diagnosis, just someone that is going to listen to what you've gone through, listen to what else is going on.
00:13:30.000My prayer for you, and again, very few people will say this, I actually want to see you be comfortable in how you were born.
00:13:37.000I know that you might not feel that way, but I think that is something that you can achieve.
00:13:41.000I think that with the right team and the right people, you don't have to wage war on your body, you can learn to love your body.
00:13:48.000He had so many exchanges like that at event after event.
00:13:53.000And we talked about this with Danny yesterday that when he was prepping his binder for the fall tour, he said, Hey, we don't need as much stuff on the trans issue.
00:14:03.000A lot of them, they're troubled people.
00:14:24.000To see Novak go on stage and just start planting those seeds so that six months, a year from now, someone on a jury might think, oh, well, I have to account for the fact that that hater had it coming when I decide the sentence.
00:15:29.000And it's just like, and one statement from Mr. Nyman, and it was like moral sanity had been reestablished in the courtroom.
00:15:40.000And it was, if I could have got up and started clapping, I would have.
00:15:43.000And I know that like Erica and everybody else felt the same.
00:15:46.000It was the amount of, you know, I think back to the preliminary hearing and attorney Burt, Mr. Burt, talking about Erica Kirk can have her press conference.
00:15:57.000Never had a press conference, Mr. Burt.
00:16:00.000But that was a low blow, a very unnecessary thing to do.
00:16:05.000And then to see Mr. Novak also engage in this sort of editorializing about Charlie being a hater, it completely out of line.
00:16:53.000I think we talked about stuff that would get us takeaways.
00:16:56.000And I think a real lesson, if we want to make progress as a country looking at this, is we should think what are changes we can make to our laws so that.
00:17:05.000A process like this is not a two or three or four year ordeal.
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00:18:54.000I know you're not in the weeds like we are, and you can take it however you want, but yesterday was the bind over hearing in Charlie's trial, the assassination, Tyler Robinson.
00:19:05.000He was bound over on all seven counts.
00:19:08.000Just from your vantage point, your perch, why is this important that we get this right and that we get justice for Charlie?
00:19:18.000And, you know, what does this say about assassination culture in this country writ large?
00:19:23.000Well, first of all, thanks for having me on.
00:19:25.000I mean, it is important to get this right, I think, for two main reasons.
00:19:29.000One, simply for justice for Charlie and for Erica and for his family, because we need to make sure that if anybody commits a crime in this country, no matter who you commit it against, if you murder somebody, you need to be in jail or you need to get the death penalty, in my opinion.
00:19:46.000And to the extent that we don't see justice in crimes like this, particularly that are so public, I think you truly do start to see the rule of law and civilization unravel.
00:19:58.000The crime itself, apart from the political aspect, speaks to a very core part of what it means to be American and to live in civilization.
00:20:08.000Secondly, though, political violence is sort of another level of crime, I think.
00:20:15.000And the reason I say that is the ability to have self government, to be able to have a representative democracy, a Republican form of government, relies on the ability of people to speak openly without fear of assassination.
00:20:30.000The ability to debate different ideas and to hopefully come to some sort of conclusion or consensus.
00:20:37.000And that ability is directly, not only undermined, but I think begins to crumble whenever you see political assassinations like this, and that's what this is, become normalized in any way.
00:20:49.000So it really, in that sense, speaks to the core of our governing structure.
00:20:58.000I think it's something, you know, apart from that.
00:21:01.000All of us have a sense of justice that we want to see.
00:21:04.000I mean, this was one of the most horrific crimes that the American people have seen because, you know, we all feel for Erica and the family.
00:21:15.000Yeah, I think that's one of the most important points to keep making that this was not merely any murder.
00:21:23.000And there are murders in this country, we're often a violent country.
00:21:26.000This was a large public assassination.
00:21:29.000Its harms go far beyond the fact that we lost our friend, our boss, our mentor.
00:21:35.000A hero to so many people is that it was specifically done to terrorize anyone who did what he did, which is go on campus to debate people, anyone who holds the views that he did.
00:21:47.000It's so much more toxic than just a simple act of violence.
00:23:02.000Is it true that your business, Have My Baby in Miami, marketed itself?
00:23:06.000To and facilitated the entry of foreign nationals seeking to come to the United States to give birth and obtain birthright citizenship for their children?
00:23:16.000On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question on the grounds that a truthful answer may tend to incriminate me, and I invoke my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the United States.
00:23:30.000Birth tourism, this is a big, big issue.
00:23:33.000This is a big issue, and you start from the premise that American citizenship is the most valuable thing in the world.
00:23:39.000It's not something that we hand out to every foreigner on the globe, and it's certainly not something that.
00:23:45.000Private businesses or anybody else should be profiting off of.
00:23:48.000And that's what we believe this man was doing by advertising in foreign countries to have people come into the United States for the sole purpose of giving birth so that their children could become citizens.
00:24:01.000That allows them to be anchored into the United States.
00:24:03.000It has all kinds of ramifications from being able to vote in American elections, being able to access welfare, but also being able to bring in family members via chain migration to a virtually unlimited degree.
00:24:17.000Those are big, that's a big, big deal.
00:24:19.000And I think the American people are sick of whenever they hear news headlines about how 20,000 to 30,000 people come obtain American citizenship via birth tourism every single year.
00:24:31.000We know that the number of Chinese Americans born in the United States to have American citizenship but are being raised in China could be astronomically higher.
00:24:42.000So, what we wanted to do is put an end to this practice.
00:24:55.000But we're going to continue the investigation.
00:24:57.000Well, you go on, and I love this one because you end up just, it's such an indictment of the entire cottage industry that is a complete farce, by the way.
00:25:07.000It makes a mockery out of our laws and our system.
00:25:10.000And the Supreme Court, somehow in their esteemed wisdom, couldn't see that we're being taken for suckers.
00:25:16.000But you make the point here very well.
00:25:38.000Have you ever facilitated the childbirth in America for a member of Trin de Aragua, MS-13, or any other narco-terrorist organization?
00:25:47.000I respectfully decline to answer the question on the grounds that a truthful answer may tend to incriminate me.
00:25:52.000Is it your intention to answer any question put to you by the committee today with an assertion of your Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination?
00:26:05.000Dr. Lorenz, considering your invocation of the Fifth Amendment writing and self incrimination, I have no choice but to excuse you from the witness panel.
00:26:14.000I mean, it's so telling that this guy runs a big business, you know, taking advantage of a loophole in American law, and then he doesn't even have the courage to answer honestly and truthfully when asked about it before Congress.
00:26:28.000What does that say about the whole entire industry?
00:26:32.000Ashamed these people should be, and how they know what they're doing is wrong.
00:26:37.000I walked through certain parts of his website that used to be public or no longer public anymore.
00:26:43.000One of the front pages of his website for Have My Baby in Miami, by the way, the name of the business, had a statement saying something along the lines of Fulfill your dream of having your child in the United States.
00:26:55.000You can continue through the website, and it has information on how to get housing in the United States, legal assistance, where they'll connect you with lawyers, basically a step by step guide.
00:27:05.000For how to come into the United States for the purpose of having a child.
00:27:10.000Also, on that website, by the way, they had been advertising that they had helped over 2,000 foreigners come into the United States to give birth.
00:27:19.000And that's just this doctor's office or just this business.
00:27:23.000Can you imagine how much bigger this is outside in all kinds of other areas?
00:27:30.000But I think they know, especially whenever you're confronted with the reality of what birth tourism is, the fact that this business is not vetting people to determine whether they should get American citizenship and they shouldn't be.
00:28:02.000This is all very deeply personal to me because I am myself a birthright citizen.
00:28:06.000My parents were here in America on student visas when I was born.
00:28:10.000They'd not become naturalized until after I was born.
00:28:12.000And if Donald Trump and Brandon Gill Had had their way, maybe my parents would have been denied their visas, maybe they would have been deported, maybe my citizenship would have been denied.
00:28:21.000And maybe if I say something today or beyond that Brandon Gill doesn't like, he'll try to revoke my citizenship.
00:28:27.000Congressman, your reaction to the other Congressman?
00:28:30.000I tried to assure my colleague, Mr. Men, that I am not going to try and take his citizenship away from him.
00:28:37.000He brought up Ilhan Omar, who I have gone back and forth many times.
00:28:42.000As long as Dave Men doesn't try to marry a sibling or support foreign terrorist organizations, I have no intention.
00:28:49.000Of attempting to take away his American citizenship.
00:28:55.000The bar is pretty low now, isn't it, Congressman?
00:28:58.000So I got two lines of questioning I want to get through here, Congressman.
00:29:03.000So there was this clip that went kind of viral with Senator Kennedy basically saying the Senate leadership fund is not going to be backing Ken Paxton, right?
00:29:11.000And he said, I hope the president puts some money into this race.
00:29:31.000And James Talrico is a complete nutcase.
00:29:35.000Make the case for Texans and for the country that maybe if you're living in Missouri right now, the thing you need to do is send some money to Ken Paxton.
00:29:46.000You know, every single cycle, Democrats talk about flipping Texas blue.
00:29:51.000They've never been able to do it before, but they are going all out here.
00:29:54.000And You're seeing a little bit of that reflected in the polls.
00:29:58.000And you see Democrats across the state mobilizing.
00:30:02.000I think, unluckily for them, they have rallied behind the most radical far left candidate they could possibly find.
00:30:09.000Somebody who, if he was running in New York, would be considered a far left candidate, much less in Texas.
00:30:16.000As we know, this is a guy who has talked about God being non binary, children, you know, basically choosing their gender, wanting a welcome mat on our southern border, a guy who wants to destroy Texas's energy sector.
00:30:29.000I mean, this is a guy who wants to fundamentally transform not only our state, but our country.
00:30:36.000On the other hand, you've got Ken Paxson, who has been one of the most effective attorney generals in our country for over the past several years and has been a conservative fighter and somebody who's going to go to Washington and represent and fight for conservative values.
00:30:52.000So I think the contrast couldn't be more clear.
00:30:55.000But we have to make sure that we get out to the polls.
00:30:58.000Every single Texan gets to the polls, that they're talking to their friends and family members, that they're telling them what the stakes are with Ken Paxton and James Tallarico and how wacko and radical Tallarico is.
00:31:38.000So he's advocating for what would essentially be a federal abortion service staffed by a federal abortion corps, telling the president to give federal lands to abortion clinics to make these abortion providers federal employees so they would be immune from state level prosecution.
00:31:56.000And this is like good Christian boy, James Talrico, advocating for all this on the day Dobbs came down.
00:32:03.000Yeah, I don't want to ever hear James Tallarico invoke the Christian faith again, not only because of this, but because of his insane social views and hatred, I think, for traditional Christian values.
00:32:18.000But the idea that we should have federally run abortion clinics on public, federally owned land to convert empty buildings so that we can run these as abortion mills is so radical and insane.
00:32:35.000Where to begin, but that's, I think it does show you how ideologically connected the left is to abortion for everybody without any kind of restrictions or without any kind of rational, logical, or common sense guidelines on it.
00:32:51.000And these people, I mean, that is truly deranged.
00:33:24.000You can be this sort of weird, cringy dork, but it's so baked into their worldview that abortion is, I don't know what else to call it, a sacrament, a holy rite, something that must be.
00:33:37.000Protected and provided and spread and promoted at all costs.
00:34:39.000You know, I think that 10 or 15 years ago, the Democrat Party, many people in the Democrat Party, might have heard those scriptures and realized that what you are saying is true, that there are only two genders, that God created us in a certain way, and that we ought to honor that.
00:34:55.000I think many of them, maybe 20 years ago, would have recognized that abortion is at the very least a lamentable thing.
00:35:03.000And I believe it's murder and it's evil.
00:35:06.000You know, this is the party that used to believe in abortion being safe, legal, and rare.
00:35:11.000Now it's abortion on demand, partial birth abortion, and converting federal buildings to abortion mills as a matter of policy.
00:35:19.000That is literally what this guy, as you showed, wrote in a letter.
00:35:23.000You know, even five years ago, we would have never been debating.
00:35:27.000How many genders there are, whether a three year old can change their gender, or whether it's appropriate to give puberty blockers to minors, or any of these other just wacko and frankly very perverted ideologies.
00:35:40.000But that's where the Democrat Party is now.
00:35:43.000James Tallarico is a radical leftist, but he's at the sort of the ideological forefront of that party.
00:35:51.000And that's something that I think every American voter ought to realize that this is not your Graham Paul's Democrat Party anymore.
00:36:24.000I would say, listen, there's always areas where you can criticize somebody in any party.
00:36:30.000But at the end of the day, you are given a binary choice whenever you go to the voting booth.
00:36:34.000You're given a choice to vote for sanity on the Republican side.
00:36:38.000And I think common sense, and maybe it's imperfect, maybe the candidate that you're voting for has views that you disagree with or does things that you don't like.
00:36:47.000But the other side believes in things that are genuinely deranged and insane.
00:36:52.000And that's the choice that we have in front of us.
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00:39:51.000You're laughing, but I, I have been credibly told on social media that this proves that everybody who, you know, puts any stock in the state's case is wrong.
00:40:01.000They're specifically saying it proves that Tyler Robinson did not confess, basically.
00:40:08.000Which I don't think any of us have ever said he confessed in the sense of he signed a confession to police.
00:40:14.000It's that he confessed to his roommate.
00:40:40.000I mean, yes, there's certainly an echo chamber that has their ideas about the criminal justice system that they apparently got from sniffing glue or something.
00:40:49.000But, you know, for those of us who have actually dealt with criminal cases, yeah, you plead not guilty if you don't have a plea deal coming into arraignment already.
00:41:00.000Already set up, you plead guilty or you plead not guilty because that is the only way for you to move the process forward, for you to have the opportunity to negotiate a plea deal, for you to put yourself into any kind of a position where you can get a better outcome than what you would be facing, given the charges and the potential penalties against you, which of course for Tyler Robinson is death.
00:41:24.000He is not pleading guilty with death on the table, at least not at this point in time.
00:41:30.000The only time that's even remotely Realistic as a possibility is if they're getting towards the trial date and he's not in a good position as far as being able to present a viable theory of defense on guilt at trial.
00:41:49.000And so, in that case, he might have strategic reasons to go ahead and plead guilty and then just proceed to trial on the penalty because it would tend to show remorse and accountability and things like that that would work to his favor.
00:42:04.000But the whole The whole process of the criminal justice system is to hold the state to its burden of proof.
00:42:12.000Pleading not guilty does not mean I didn't do it.
00:42:16.000Pleading not guilty means state you're going to have to prove it.
00:42:21.000So you're basically saying the only way that he would have pled in that instance is if there was a deal on the table to say we'll take the death penalty off or something along those lines.
00:42:34.000He has no incentive to plead guilty at this stage because.
00:42:39.000He has the opportunity to litigate the case to try to improve his position.
00:42:44.000And he does that through the types of steps that you routinely see in criminal cases.
00:42:49.000You file motions to suppress, you challenge the admissibility of certain kinds of evidence and things like that.
00:42:56.000You basically try to limit the damage that the state can do in light of whatever you expect them to be presenting at trial.
00:43:04.000And then you evaluate kind of where you end up.
00:43:06.000And so if they were successful at potentially getting a lot of evidence thrown out, well, now there's a bigger risk.
00:43:14.000To the state of going forward to trial, they might lose.
00:43:17.000And so now they have more of an incentive to moderate their position and potentially accept a plea to something that they would not be willing to accept at this stage in the process.
00:43:30.000Yeah, you mentioned the theory of the case, like the defense puts forward a theory of a case.
00:43:37.000I'm legitimately scratching my head, having been in that courtroom watching Mr. Novak basically talk himself into a corner saying, well, we don't know that Tyler Robinson.
00:43:48.000Killed Charlie because, or you know, that he was killed because of hate or whatever, uh, or political speech.
00:43:54.000But then he goes, But we know that he did say hateful things and targeted people with hateful rhetoric.
00:44:06.000What was your professional reaction to that moment?
00:44:09.000Um, I, I, I did not think that was a very smart thing to say.
00:44:16.000Uh, my, my read on Mr. Novak, uh, at This particular hearing was he seemed to be operating maybe a little bit more off the cuff than he has in other proceedings where he's been a little bit more organized, a little bit more systematic with his presentation.
00:44:33.000This one, he was, I mean, you could visually see him like having to stop and kind of think through his thoughts a little bit more before he said them.
00:44:42.000And so I think he may have like reverted to instinct and in a way that maybe is not going to resonate with people who don't share his.
00:44:56.000I'm sure it's not revolutionary for me to notice that it's often common when political issues come up that certain people just kind of take it for granted that the whole world shares their political perspective, and it can be hard to kind of get out of that.
00:45:14.000So that's kind of my read on what I think probably happened just a very bad, impulsive misjudgment on the.
00:45:35.000And he did, you know, I was looking at him talking to Tyler Robinson a couple of times, like when I first entered the courtroom, and it struck me that they were smirking.
00:45:44.000They kept like looking at each other, almost like they were like two old friends.
00:45:49.000It's like, you know, kind of, and that gave me chills.
00:45:53.000It makes me wonder, Novak, he's a seasoned death penalty case litigator, and just makes you think, What's the long term effect on you where that is every case you're litigating is with people who committed crimes facing the death penalty?
00:46:16.000I mean, I think there's no question about it.
00:46:18.000And this is where we may have a little bit of a difference in perspective on what they're doing and the importance of that job and so forth.
00:46:26.000I see what they are doing sincerely as God's work.
00:46:29.000They are standing with the people that are the least desired.
00:46:33.000People in society, the people that nobody wants to stick up for.
00:46:37.000And that is part of what you internalize when you do that job you are the one person you have a duty to be loyal to them and you have a duty to advocate for them.
00:46:47.000I don't, and so you take that very seriously.
00:47:39.000She's guilty of the murdering part of it, but.
00:47:45.000I do think that there's a lot of underlying mental health issues and, you know, women's health issues that need to be talked about with that trial.
00:47:51.000Whether or not she did it from a state of sanity, she killed her kids.
00:47:55.000The guilty party is like the medical system that failed both her and the children.
00:47:59.000The gender divide is wild when it comes to this Lindsey Clancy case.
00:48:04.000And we are watching this, Andrea, because it feels like weirdly an overlap of what we're dealing with, where you have a clearly guilty party that's confessed to do it.
00:48:13.000It feels like it's also the only other story.
00:48:24.000It really is that the gender divide is like wild.
00:48:29.000When you were talking about jury selection in a trial like this, and I'm thinking about it, I'm thinking down the line with Charlie's jury selection too, how important is the gender of the jury?
00:48:39.000Is this something they talk about openly behind the scenes?
00:48:42.000Well, there's going to be a lot of different perspectives on that.
00:48:45.000You're certainly going to find some people who.
00:48:48.000Who do kind of a segmentation analysis type of approach to jury selection, right?
00:48:54.000They look at kind of how people can be categorized and what that might suggest about their tendency to vote guilty or not guilty, how they would process information, and things like that.
00:49:05.000And so, if, for example, somebody engages a jury selection consultant, they'll often get that kind of information and advice.
00:49:16.000Personally, I've never found gender or really any kind of categorical.
00:49:21.000Metric to be very helpful in terms of evaluating who is going to be a good juror or not.
00:49:27.000Because mostly what you're looking for is just you're looking for somebody who is going to be open and receptive to your arguments, to the information that you want to present, somebody who's going to be willing to see it your way.
00:49:40.000So it's often just more of a kind of gut instinct do I connect with this person or not?
00:49:46.000A person that likes you and trusts you is somebody who is more likely to give you their vote when it comes time to the verdict.
00:49:53.000And so that's something that you can't really create a formula for that.
00:49:58.000You know, there's a spark or there isn't.
00:50:01.000So externally, people have made it a big sex divide.
00:50:06.000There's all these jokes because there's the nine women and there's the three men.
00:50:09.000And so people have joked, oh, the three men of the jury holding the line on trying to convict.
00:50:14.000But what do you think the likely dynamic is actually going on in the jury?
00:50:18.000Do you think we're more likely to have a case where it's one holdout one way or the other?
00:50:30.000Well, so as far as the single holdout, that typically is not that common.
00:50:35.000It certainly does happen, but it's far more likely when you're unable to reach a verdict that it's because there is more than one person.
00:50:43.000Juries are like any kind of social environment.
00:50:46.000There's pressure, and there's just people have a natural kind of tendency to want to please the group, go along, you know, to the extent that they can.
00:50:59.000And so it's just not that common for somebody, a single person, to be able to resist the pressure of another 11 for a significant length of time.
00:51:10.000Suspect it's probably more than one person.
00:51:13.000I think the nature of the divide is just over the medical issues and the extent to which they have opinions about, you know, was she in active psychosis?
00:53:38.000I mean, I could see a situation where they might schedule it before that, but I just have a hard time anticipating that they would actually be ready.
00:53:48.000And so if they did, You know, set it sooner than I think it's likely there would be a motion to continue at some point.
00:53:57.000It's just hard for me to overstate the massive amount of preparation that a trial like this requires, not just from the investigative standpoint, their duty to go through and check everything that the state's done.
00:54:12.000We've seen from the discovery report that they just filed, not just the volume of what they have to go through, but they were.
00:54:19.000Very systematically laying out the steps of what they need to do to be able to kind of process the information, make it usable, understand it.
00:54:28.000And they've only just gotten started with that, you know, almost a year since Charlie died.
00:54:34.000And that's just not unusual with cases of this scope.
00:54:38.000Also, just a massive amount of litigation that we already know is forthcoming.
00:54:43.000They've told us, they've hinted at it, you know, they've suggested it.
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00:57:18.000And he is the author of Suicidal Empathy, one of the few books in recent memory that has literally transformed the way social media discusses this, I don't know what you call it, like a parasite, this ideological parasite that's infected the West.
00:57:32.000He has coined the term suicidal empathy.
00:58:03.000We'll give you all the grace in the world.
00:58:05.000And we are going to go a little bit long, so we're going to do some podcast exclusive after this with Dr. Sad, just because there's too much to get to.
00:58:11.000Doctor, it feels like the world is upside down.
00:58:15.000More than any other note that we get from our listeners, it feels like after we lost Charlie, it was like this anchor of just truth and reliability.
00:58:23.000You knew where Charlie was going to be on things.
00:58:25.000He was going to speak sense into the void, into the madness.
00:58:28.000And there's this void that's been left.
00:58:31.000And it's like up is down, left is right.
00:58:33.000People that you thought were going to say one thing are saying the exact opposite.
00:58:36.000Left and right is an old, dated paradigm, bro.
00:58:38.000We're getting the horseshoe theory, the moral inversion of the Lindsey Clancy trial.
00:58:52.000And so for those viewers and listeners who are not too familiar with my work, In several of my books, I offer, if you like, the entire framework to explain why we are consistently jumping off the abyss of infinite lunacy.
00:59:07.000So, in the parasitic mind, I argued that the way that you can hijack someone's ability to think critically is by injecting them with these ideological brain parasites.
00:59:21.000But in order for me to fully hijack your capacity to think, I have to do two things.
00:59:27.000I have to Hijack your cognitive system and your affective system, meaning your emotional system.
00:59:34.000And that's where suicidal empathy comes in.
00:59:36.000If I can completely hijack your cognitive and your affective system, I own you.
00:59:42.000And that's when we end up with up is down, left is right, freedom is slavery, and so on.
00:59:46.000So, really, those two books, forgive me if I'm tooting my own horn, really explain the existential malady that we're currently facing in the West.
01:00:06.000And I don't mind calling her out by name, but it does seem like Candace Owens has this ability to sort of do this to at least some subset of the population, right?
01:00:17.000I mean, maybe it's foreign actors, maybe it's the CCP, maybe it's Iranians on social media, maybe it's Russians, maybe it's domestic actors, but how does that actually happen and what tools are they using?
01:00:28.000So, that's a very good question because the more general.
01:00:32.000Fundamental question that you're asking is Are these parasitic ideas coupled with suicidal empathy a top down process whereby someone willfully sat in a Davos meeting and came up with a way to destroy the West, or is it something that happened organically bottom up?
01:00:51.000Yes, now to your point, it is true that many nefarious actors use our regrettable proclivity to swim in the infinity pool of suicidal empathy to their advantage, but.
01:01:06.000Maybe this is good news to your audience.
01:01:08.000The origins of this lunacy were not started in an a priori lab of evil.
01:01:15.000And so let me explain how it came about.
01:01:18.000Every single parasitic idea that I discuss in the parasitic mind, thank you for putting it up on the screen, that eventually led to suicidal empathy stems from the university ecosystem.
01:01:31.000Because as I never stop reminding people, it uniquely takes intellectuals to come up with some of the dumbest ideas.
01:01:39.000Now, these ideas were originally spawned on university campuses not because professors were inherently evil, it's because they were fully decoupled from reality and seeking to create a utopian world.
01:01:54.000So, let me give you a concrete example.
01:01:57.000The parasitic idea of cultural relativism, which basically says, Who are you to judge the cultural practices and beliefs of another culture?
01:02:05.000If they wish to cut off the clitoris of five year old girls, shut up, racist.
01:02:09.000Well, that cultural relativistic idea stemmed from an anthropologist about 100 years ago named Franz Boas.
01:02:17.000Why did he come up with this ridiculous theory?
01:02:20.000Because he thought that if you applied biology in trying to understand human affairs, it can lead to nefarious consequences.
01:02:29.000So let's build edifices of bullshit, but that hopefully will allow us to get to a better world.
01:02:37.000Well, now, once the university ecosystem internalizes that parasitic idea called cultural relativism, it then renders me impotent to make any judgment calls about whom I should let in to the United States.
01:02:52.000That's why open borders becomes a form of suicidal empathy.
01:02:56.000If I can't judge that people who throw gays off rooftops and who cut off the clitoris of five year old girls are less likely to assimilate in the United States, we end up with Dearborn and with Patterson, New Jersey, and with little Mogadishu in Minneapolis.
01:03:12.000So it didn't start with some nefarious evil guy, but to your point, nefarious evil guys take advantage of our weaknesses today.
01:03:21.000And also, I think it's really powerful the way you describe the layers of abstraction from reality.
01:03:54.000And I think about How much more of society is like that today?
01:03:58.000The number of people who are able to get by on some form of government program as their main income.
01:04:03.000So many people got hooked on that during COVID.
01:04:06.000So many people who are government employees and the work they do is useless, but the federal government is vast and you can never really get rid of anything.
01:04:15.000Did anything USAID do, was that good for the country?
01:04:18.000It almost didn't matter, but a lot of people in DC were making $100,000 a year off of it.
01:04:24.000And I just think how many of these societies cancelled are because more and more people are.
01:04:30.000In a reality that is not in the brass tacks of owning a business, producing something valuable, having to care about what is real and what is fake.
01:04:39.000Yeah, so two points to build on what you just said.
01:04:43.000If you look at various disciplines within the university ecosystem, there is a difference across disciplines in the extent to which particular disciplines have been infected with the parasitic mind and with suicidal empathy.
01:04:58.000So, for example, traditionally, I've been housed in a business school.
01:05:02.000Well, the business school and the engineering school are inherently less likely to be parasitized by this imbecility because they are tethered to reality.
01:05:12.000In other words, if I try to build a mathematical model to explain consumer choice using lesbian dance theory, I'm going to be out of a job very quickly because it's not going to predict consumer behavior.
01:05:25.000If I try to build a bridge in the engineering department using lesbian dance theory physics, the bridge is going to collapse.
01:05:32.000So, by virtue of those disciplines being more coupled.
01:05:37.000With reality, there's the autocorrective slap of reality that keeps my bull in check.
01:05:43.000Well, then those fields are inherently more inoculated against the nonsense.
01:05:47.000But other disciplines in the humanities and the social sciences are perfectly untethered to reality.
01:05:55.000And therefore, the professor can get up in his wool jacket, pontificate nonsense, and there is nobody that's slapping him back to reality.
01:06:03.000If anything, he or she gets promoted to tenure.
01:06:06.000And so, to the second point now, Forgive me if I'm speaking too long.
01:06:42.000In trans philosophy, you just have to go and read this person's, you know, quote research to see in what world would it make sense for the Canadian government to endow such nonsense.
01:06:57.000But regrettably, this is where we are in academia.
01:07:00.000Yeah, you know, I remember one of your first interviews with Charlie.
01:07:03.000You had this quote You said, The pesky shackles of reality.
01:07:06.000I can say that I can fly, but as soon as I jump off the building, guess what?
01:07:10.000Gravity is going to pull me down and reality is going to smack you straight in the whatever.
01:07:18.000Dr. Sad, you know, we talk about the pesky shackles of reality.
01:07:22.000It seems like we have a political ideology in this country, in the West, that it feels not at all beholden to the pesky shackles of reality.
01:07:31.000It seems like everything they do is basically flouting creation in its face and just saying, you know, up yours.
01:07:42.000But what's interesting is that my prediction was that the left was going to go so kooky on so many different things that basically.
01:07:50.000Even if the right was frustrated about the war in Iran, even if the right was frustrated about the handling of Epstein or whatever, it's kind of going, hey, I can't pair up with these guys because they're just too kooky.
01:08:00.000Instead, what we have is this refrain that the left right paradigm is over, it's dated, right?
01:08:07.000We all have to, I think most of them are basically saying we all have to unite against Israel together because the uniparty or something.
01:08:17.000Do you think that's what we're seeing?
01:08:19.000And if you don't, what is your explanation?
01:08:22.000Well, I don't know about this horseshoe theory business.
01:08:25.000What I can say is that one party is wedded to values that it wishes to conserve, hence conservatism, right?
01:08:35.000And this is why, by the way, in one of my previous books, in the happiness book, I referred to a lot of research that points to the fact that there are unequivocal findings that point to the fact that conservatives are much happier than progressiveslash liberals.
01:08:53.000And I think I offer a pretty compelling explanation, which kind of speaks to your general question.
01:08:58.000Conservatives wake up in the morning, and their general existential stance is that, yes, we may not live in a perfect society, but there are many things that are worth conserving here freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of inquiry.
01:09:16.000Thank God that I was born in the United States.
01:09:19.000The progressive wakes up every day with great existential doom and gloom.
01:09:25.000Because he or she lives in an Islamophobic, transphobic, sexist, misogynistic society where there is a genocide on trans people and black men every day by the police.
01:09:36.000And therefore, I, as a progressive, must effect change.
01:09:44.000And if I could only burn everything down, we could then finally get to the final destination of unicornia.
01:09:50.000And so I think really what animates the two parties is that reflex.
01:09:55.000Once one says, thank God I'm American.
01:09:59.000The other one says, God damn that I'm an American.
01:10:02.000And therefore, that's why someone like me, to your point, when you first introduced me, you get the Lebanese guy who grew up in Canada, who is now the professor to teach American freedoms, because to be an American is to internalize those foundational principles.
01:10:20.000There are many Americans that will never be remotely as American as I am.
01:11:14.000But that dialectic that you're talking about between gratitude and ingratitude, basically hating America or loving America, being grateful for the opportunity of America, or just being sort of belligerently angry at everything that might not be 100% perfect, is a critical dialectic.
01:11:31.000I felt like you were about to chime in here.
01:11:39.000Well, we're always sensitive, of course, because it's a very common line from the people who love maximum immigration that every immigrant is actually more American than the people here.
01:11:48.000So I know you didn't mean it in the same way they do, Dr. Sad, but there is a psychosis that treats everyone in America as a fungible creature.
01:12:17.000It explains the sheer array of forces that are in the Democrats that you have fundamentalist Muslims teaming up with radical Marxist socialists, teaming up with just general race grievance people.
01:12:33.000And it's all a vast coalition of people who basically.
01:12:44.000It's the unification of all people who want to basically set the history book on fire because it offends them that it exists.
01:12:52.000If I can just build on something that you said in the start of your remarks, Blake, of course, I'm not saying that all immigrants are more American than Americans, but let me build on my point.
01:13:05.000It's not a coincidence that many of the most Vociferous defenders of American values are immigrants.
01:13:16.000Because we have sampled from the large buffet of societies.
01:13:21.000And therefore, we know that the freedoms that most Americans presume to be the default value in any society is not the default value, right?
01:13:30.000That's why this thing called American exceptionalism exists.
01:13:34.000It's a small bleep in human history to have created a society like the one that America has created.
01:13:41.000Therefore, it takes an Ayan Hersey Ali or a Gadsad.
01:13:45.000She grew up in Somalia and in Saudi Arabia and so on.
01:13:49.000And Gadsad grew up in Lebanon to come and say, hey, guys, don't take those freedoms for granted.
01:13:55.000There's always a monster that's coming to erase your freedoms.
01:13:59.000And so it's in that sense that I meant that many of the biggest defenders are those who weren't born in the United States.
01:14:07.000Oh, I totally agree with this, by the way.
01:14:08.000What you're saying is completely true.
01:14:10.000Having the Alexis de Tocqueville's of the world come in and observe the country and its exceptionalism, it's true whether you want to admit it or not.
01:14:20.000Even if you're an immigration moratorium advocate like I am, that when you have outside eyes to look at what God has given America and the providential hand of God and the freedoms that we have been bestowed upon us by our founders and our amazing institutions and our history and our heritage.
01:14:51.000It made me love my country in a profoundly new way.
01:14:58.000All right, Dr. Sad, we're on the far side of the end of the live show.
01:15:03.000So we talked about suicidal empathy for the past 20 minutes.
01:15:06.000Now we have to talk about, sadly, homicidal empathy.
01:15:10.000So this Lindsey Clancy case, we'd be interested just in your psychological read of what is driving what appears to be millions of people, mostly women, but not exclusively so, to have that impulse to say, this woman who murdered.
01:15:30.000Three of her children in a pretty gruesome way, strangling them to death one by one.
01:15:45.000What do you think is the psychological driver of this?
01:15:48.000So I'm going to first answer in a broader way, then we come back to her case.
01:15:53.000So in Suicidal Empathy, in one of the chapters, I talk about blank slate felons.
01:15:59.000And let me explain what I mean by that.
01:16:01.000Blank slatism is the idea in psychology that we are all born tabula rasa, empty minds, with no biological imperatives, with no differences across people in potentiality.
01:16:16.000And it is only some environmental factors, it could be socialization, it could be a bad upbringing, it could be whatever it is, that then leads us down our unique trajectories.
01:16:27.000So let's apply it now to felons of color.
01:16:31.000Well, if you are suicidally empathetic and you subscribe to this idea of blank slate felons, then the black guy who has been arrested for only the 197th time, what is the point of you punishing him?
01:16:46.000He was already born in a white supremacist society, so existentially he's been punished.
01:16:53.000Don't you think you should be a bit empathetic and give this guy another chance?
01:16:58.000And by other chance, I only mean 197th other chance.
01:17:02.000And so that reflex then manifests itself in the case of this woman, right?
01:17:08.000She couldn't be personally responsible for what she did.
01:17:14.000There must be some external factor because we are all born tabula rasa with equal beautiful morality, equal likelihood to live in kumbaya.
01:17:24.000And in her case, maybe it was her hormones, maybe it was her postpartum depression, maybe it was her bad upbringing where her father didn't hug her enough.
01:17:33.000There is always an external reason for why I committed the debauchery that I did.
01:17:39.000Once you internalize that message, you remove personal agency from people.
01:17:44.000So you then don't intervene with the homeless.
01:17:48.000You don't intervene with repeat recidivist criminals.
01:17:51.000You don't punish this mother who, you know, snuffed out the life of three beautiful children.
01:17:57.000So it really comes from the internalization of the blank slate premise.
01:18:02.000So we have this clip here, Dr. Sad, that this is the new part of the story here.
01:18:07.00056 year old Lindsey Clancy jury intimidator, Dawn Light.
01:18:13.000She's being sworn by the press in this clip, but I got to watch it because it's really remarkable what people are driven to in these moments where they get whooped up in this social media fervor.
01:20:07.000It has to be triggered in the wrong situation towards the wrong targets, right?
01:20:13.000And so when you are more empathetic towards the one who killed the three children than you are towards the three children who were killed, that is a manifestation of suicidal empathy.
01:20:26.000And let me link it to another criminal context.
01:20:30.000I discuss many, many examples in the book where.
01:20:34.000The rape victims exhibit great empathy and sympathy for their rapists.
01:20:44.000And let me mention one example, then we can come back to the Clancy story.
01:20:48.000A woman goes to Haiti, to Port au Prince, the capital of Haiti.
01:20:53.000She's a white, liberal, enlightened woman, a lot kinder and more empathetic than the three of us here.
01:20:58.000And she wants to dismantle the idea that black men are violent.
01:21:04.000In any way, because we have absolutely no evidence in the world that a black man has ever committed any violence.
01:21:10.000And the only reason why black men in the United States commit violence is because it's a response to the white supremacist society that they have lived in.
01:21:20.000Therefore, if she can go to Haiti, where hopefully they're not prone to the white supremacist Americans, then she could see that all of the black men in Haiti are all lovely.
01:21:30.000Well, then she gets slapped by this thing called reality, where a Haitian man takes her to the top of a rooftop.
01:21:37.000And then rapes her violently all night.
01:21:39.000Now, you would think that that might alter her original premise, her a priori hypothesis.
01:21:45.000Well, she then wrote an essay after she returned to the United States where she said, You ready?
01:21:53.000She was thankful for the experience because it made her realize that that guy in Port au Prince, Haiti, had so much inherent hatred towards white supremacy that he used her body to express that rage.
01:22:10.000Well, if that woman who's been violently raped. Can empathize with her rapist, then surely tons of women are going to empathize if they are suicidally empathetic with the killer of those three children.
01:22:24.000It's the same mechanism playing out in slightly different contexts.
01:22:28.000People have speculated on interesting stuff.
01:22:31.000We discussed, for example, does it matter psychologically that Lindsey Clancy looks like she's a little bit attractive, but not too attractive?
01:22:43.000Yeah, that if she was very attractive, they would turn on her.
01:22:46.000If she was ugly, they would turn on her.
01:22:49.000But I mean, another example that came to mind is I've argued if you took the exact same pattern of medication, the exact same pattern of kind of mental health episodes, and then, but if Lindsey Clancy had been a 19 year old male who'd done a school shooting, who said, I took these pills, had psychosis, I grabbed a rifle, and I shot up a kindergarten.
01:23:09.000None of us would, for even 10 seconds, consider this argument.
01:23:13.000It does feel like you need a specific profile of victim in this case.
01:23:24.000Look, I studied in various settings how hormones affect both men's behaviors and women's behaviors.
01:23:32.000So, for example, I've done research looking at how where a woman is in her menstrual cycle affects a wide slew of her behaviors.
01:23:43.000The way that she beautifies herself varies depending on where she is in her ovulatory cycle.
01:23:49.000Not surprisingly, when she is in the maximally fertile phase of her.
01:23:53.000Menstrual cycle, this is when she is most likely to beautify herself.
01:23:57.000The types of foods that women are either attracted to or not vary depending on where they are in their menstrual cycle.
01:24:04.000So, of course, our hormones affect our behaviors, right?
01:24:09.000If a man has a rise in his testosterone, he's more likely to become aggressive and belligerent and a greater risk taker.
01:24:18.000So, no one is contesting the fact that hormones have downstream effects on our behavior.
01:24:24.000But to then use that as a justification, well, you know, I had postpartum depression or this or that.
01:24:30.000Listen, I'm married, I've had children, I've seen the hormonal changes that my wife went through.
01:24:35.000Well, apparently, thank God she didn't kill our children.
01:24:38.000So, again, I'm not belittling the fact that people can suffer from mental health situations that may render them criminally not responsible.
01:24:47.000I'm not sure if her case rises to that level.
01:24:50.000So, Dr. Sad, I'm going to ask you a controversial question because I have a controversial take on this.
01:24:57.000I believe that gender roles are really important.
01:25:01.000I think my wife would tell you this the fact that we've been married for over a decade and I have really strong opinions.
01:25:11.000As Christians, she thinks of me as the head of the household.
01:25:18.000But I will tell you if my wife came home and she was feeling sympathetic towards Lindsey Clancy, we would have an immediate conversation about that and I would probably put her in her place.
01:25:27.000And I would take it very seriously and tell her why she's wrong.
01:25:29.000Now, thankfully, my wife has her common sense.
01:25:33.000But here's the big, long, and short of that.
01:25:36.000I think what we are suffering through is a complete lack and a deprivation in society of strong male leadership, both at the home and in the institutions.
01:26:03.000Or are they like the locusts that come through the field and are they just going to consume everything good and beautiful and true because of their feelings in the longhouse?
01:26:14.000There are amazing women, there are strong women, but men need to be leaders.
01:26:17.000I'm telling you, I'm very convinced that this is the case.
01:26:20.000And a lot of the ills we're seeing in society is a result of complicity from men, sins of omission, of not being strong leaders and not being in the home.
01:27:08.000And by the way, there are what's called sex role reversal species, where it is the females that are larger, bigger, more testosterone.
01:27:18.000So, for example, the kaswari bird, the male sits on the eggs, the females build a harem of males.
01:27:26.000So, there is a biological explanation for why sexual dimorphism exists in human beings and why there is a thing called male and female.
01:27:38.000So, having said all that, we can then study human mating preferences across endless societies, societies that couldn't be any more different from each other.
01:27:48.000And what we repeatedly find is that the types of attributes that men look for in women and vice versa are shockingly similar across all cultures and across all time periods.
01:28:02.000Now, there might be slight variations, but the general patterns of preferred attributes are exactly the same.
01:28:09.000Men are much more likely to put a greater weight.
01:28:12.000On physical beauty and youth, for very obvious evolutionary reasons, women are much more likely to put much greater weight on any attribute that correlates with your ability to ascend the social hierarchy and maintain your position in that social hierarchy.
01:28:30.000Now, here's where cross cultural differences can arise.
01:28:34.000In some cultures, the number of cattle heads that I have makes me the top dog in that culture.
01:28:39.000In other cultures, it's whether I have an Ivy League degree and many zeros in my bank account.
01:28:45.000But in no culture does a woman ever say the following You ready?
01:28:50.000I want a pear shaped, nasal voiced guy who sucks his thumb while watching Bridget Jones' diary and has a really hearty cry if his pants are too tight because he's put on weight.
01:29:03.000No woman has ever fantasized over that guy.
01:29:10.000Therefore, this is why these parasitic ideas are so fundamentally, existentially destructive.
01:29:19.000To male female dynamics, because we are teaching, for example, women that no, you should do exactly what a man does.
01:29:27.000If he wants to have unrestrained sex, you have the right to do it too, girl.
01:29:34.000Now, of course, you've got the right to do it, but does that mean that women would be equally pleased with mating with 100 guys 100 days in a row that they pick up randomly at the bar?
01:30:26.000It literally is as though every single romance novel that has ever been created was plagiarized from an original template, which is the male hero, to my great chagrin, because I'm not tall, is a tall guy who is a prince and a neurosurgeon.
01:33:29.000And so that's why all these parasitic ideas are so dreadful because they literally erase, eviscerate all of the most fundamental fabric of our human nature.
01:33:40.000Look, I receive a million emails from women, and let me just kind of paraphrase and summarize them.
01:33:46.000Hey, Professor Saad, I know that you're a big evolutionary psychology guy and you understand male female dynamics.
01:33:52.000How come I go to a bar to meet a lovely guy and not a single guy approaches me?
01:33:58.000And I'm a beautiful woman, I'm ready to mix and mingle, and none of the guys are there.
01:34:05.000Well, if you tell a man that if he comes up to you and compliments you, that is a form of verbal rape, then don't be surprised that the man is going to be reticent to approach you, right?
01:34:17.000If it becomes a type of sexual harassment, if I tell a colleague, my God, you look radiant in that lovely dress, if I no longer have the reflex to share such a beautiful compliment, then it's not surprising that men and women are going to have a hard time meeting one another.
01:34:36.000So radical feminism really did a number on women because it taught them to internalize all of the beliefs that would lead to their unhappiness downstairs.