The Charlie Kirk Show - Why You Need to Care About Wisconsin — Live with Donald Trump Jr.

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00:01:36.000 How we doing, Wisconsin?

00:01:42.000 Boy, I was joking around with Don.

00:01:45.000 I thought the election was only a couple months ago, but I guess we're back at it.

00:01:49.000 Well, we're back at it because you see what they're doing each and every day, right?

00:01:53.000 They're trying to negate the election.

00:01:55.000 They're trying to negate the mandate.

00:01:56.000 So we all have to just stay involved all the way through.

00:02:01.000 It doesn't matter what it is.

00:02:02.000 We can't just show up when Trump's on the ticket.

00:02:04.000 We've got to show up because we understand what their entire apparatus is trying to do to our country.

00:02:09.000 Yeah, and so, Don, let's talk about the importance of this race.

00:02:12.000 This is not a persuasion election.

00:02:14.000 This is not about winning people in the middle.

00:02:16.000 It is about driving Trump voters and Republican voters out to the polls coming into April.

00:02:23.000 Well, honestly, it's so simple.

00:02:27.000 Just look at what happened this last weekend.

00:02:30.000 They have a plane of like 300 Trendler Agua guys.

00:02:34.000 These are some of the worst drug-dealing Criminal, murderous, rapist, fentanyl-peddling people in the world.

00:02:45.000 Funded like a terrorist regime.

00:02:48.000 I mean, this is truly a terrorist organization.

00:02:51.000 And a liberal judge, just like this, wants to overrule the will of the President of the United States and the people who put them there with a mandate to end this nonsense.

00:03:05.000 It's going on right now.

00:03:07.000 We saw it this weekend.

00:03:08.000 They wanted to turn a plane of murderers, drug dealers, and rapists around because they would rather have them living in our community because somehow they think that benefits them politically.

00:03:20.000 But we've seen it.

00:03:22.000 You're right.

00:03:23.000 I mean, some random judge in the middle of nowhere can say this and overrule, at least according to him, for the moment.

00:03:30.000 The President of the United States.

00:03:31.000 I think we win that in the long run, but those are the hills today's Democrat Party is dying on.

00:03:36.000 It's why we just have to stay so vigilant, right?

00:03:40.000 Apathy will kill us.

00:03:42.000 It'll stop us from being able to do all these things, and they've shown they'll stop anything.

00:03:46.000 Remember that, you know, the first week it was about the price of eggs.

00:03:49.000 It hasn't gone down in 12 seconds since he took office, right?

00:03:52.000 Well, what's happening now?

00:03:54.000 Right? The manufacturing number is going through the roof.

00:03:57.000 We're actually able to get these things done, but we still have to cut through that narrative.

00:04:02.000 And we can't do that alone.

00:04:04.000 We can't do that in D.C. We can't do it with the mainstream media because they whitewash all of this stuff.

00:04:09.000 They'll pretend that it's not happening, even if there's a federal judge that is sitting there saying, no, no, no, we want the murderers and rapists back in America immediately!

00:04:18.000 Or we're going to go after...

00:04:19.000 I mean, think about it.

00:04:20.000 That's today's Democrat Party.

00:04:23.000 Man, we could go through the list of things that they're doing each and every day to try to subvert, again, not just my father, but all of you.

00:04:33.000 It was your will.

00:04:34.000 There was a mandate.

00:04:36.000 A Republican won the popular vote in every swing state in the country.

00:04:50.000 In the six weeks since he's taken office, they've tried to stop literally everything that the people voted for.

00:04:57.000 So I think we have an incredible opportunity to effectuate real change.

00:05:02.000 But we're not going to do it by sitting at home.

00:05:05.000 We're not going to do it by not getting our friends out there.

00:05:08.000 So when you think about it, I mean, the Supreme Court here in Wisconsin, that is at stake.

00:05:13.000 That is everything for this state.

00:05:15.000 That is everything for this state in midterms.

00:05:17.000 That's going to be everything for this state in 28. We actually have an opportunity to have an incredible path beyond my father, whether it's J.D. Vance or some of the other talent that we've curated, right?

00:05:30.000 I think we like J.D. Don't we like J.D., everybody?

00:05:33.000 Isn't J.D.

00:05:34.000 doing a great job?

00:05:35.000 Thank you.

00:05:42.000 So, you know, we actually, the last four years were brutal, right?

00:05:46.000 I get it.

00:05:47.000 Trust me.

00:05:48.000 They went after me and my family pretty hard, but they went after all of us with everything, economically, lawfare-wise, everything you could imagine to try to take down our country.

00:05:57.000 They did it.

00:05:58.000 I always said, if you looked at the last four years and you said if there was the proverbial Manchurian candidate, what would you do differently if you assumed the power in America and you were America's greatest enemy? 0.97

00:06:09.000 What would you do differently than the actions of today's Democrat Party?

00:06:13.000 And the answer is nothing.

00:06:15.000 You literally wouldn't do anything.

00:06:17.000 Differently, but we needed to go through those last four years to be able to understand just how fragile our democracy is, just how fragile our military is, just how fragile our economy is, because they showed that even an incompetent boob like Joe Biden could dismantle all of those things with a stroke of a pen.

00:06:37.000 So, yeah, or an auto pen, 100%.

00:06:44.000 It took those four years for us to actually have a roster, have a bench of Republicans to step up, to see what was going on, and to fight back accordingly.

00:06:55.000 And now that we have those, that's the greatest threat to the Democrat Party ever.

00:06:58.000 Because if it was just Trump, and honestly, I think we won in 2020.

00:07:02.000 I don't think anyone actually questions that.

00:07:07.000 But had we assumed office, it would have been the same can kickers. 0.97

00:07:12.000 Look at this cabinet.

00:07:14.000 Look at the way they're fighting.

00:07:15.000 They're not just passing the buck, waiting for him to turn out.

00:07:19.000 They're actively pursuing the agenda, again, that you all voted for.

00:07:23.000 So now, for the first time in history, we're on the offense, and we have a bench to keep this going, not just for these four years, but for 12 and perhaps beyond.

00:07:35.000 I mean, just today, Dan Bongino got sworn in as deputy director of the FBI, everybody.

00:07:39.000 Thank you.

00:07:48.000 And then you got Kash Patel as the director of the FBI.

00:07:52.000 I mean, it's just...

00:07:53.000 How do you think Pete Hexner's doing a DOD?

00:07:56.000 I mean, that...

00:07:57.000 And, I mean, the roster that we are seeing in the cabinet...

00:08:05.000 And, Don, you just said this, but it's worthy of repeating, everybody, because you guys deserve the credit.

00:08:10.000 And it started with the resolve and the grittiness four years ago when we were put into exile.

00:08:17.000 And this is why we can't lay off the gas and why we have to understand these off-year elections are incredibly important.

00:08:23.000 You see, what Don is getting at is that in some ways it actually was a great blessing we were displaced from power in 2020.

00:08:31.000 And, I mean, I hate to say that we had to live through Joe Biden and 12 million people coming across the southern border, but if we would have stayed in power in 2020, we would not have Kash Patel running the FBI.

00:08:44.000 We would not have Dan Bongino or Tulsi Gabbard or Bobby Kennedy or J.D. Vance.

00:08:48.000 We'd have Mike Pence.

00:08:50.000 And so the question, I guess, is that what lessons did we learn in those couple years when we were not in power?

00:09:00.000 And here's what it was.

00:09:02.000 It's that we got really tough and we got back to basics.

00:09:05.000 We got invested in voter registration.

00:09:07.000 We got invested in precinct committeemen.

00:09:10.000 We got invested in becoming county chairs and becoming involved in these state party chair elections.

00:09:17.000 And then also, and this is the most important part, everybody, is that we understand that these kind of races that people don't always hear about, they could tip the scales of the entire future of the republic.

00:09:29.000 This state right here is a 50-50 state.

00:09:31.000 It's like the most 50-50 state in the country.

00:09:34.000 And I believe that...

00:09:37.000 Eric Hovde should be the U.S. Senator here in Wisconsin.

00:09:40.000 He should be.

00:09:42.000 And there's a lot I could go into there, but here's what I can guarantee you, is that if we don't pay attention to these races that might seem a little wonky, all of a sudden things like ballot custody and signature verification and voter ID and congressional maps, if you are out there, this is the most important message from tonight.

00:10:04.000 If you are out there ever complaining about the security of our elections, then you better work as hard as you've ever worked about winning this election coming on April 1st, because it's the most important thing that you could do when it comes to election integrity.

00:10:19.000 And it's just a simple issue of this, that on the other side, they're talking about redrawing congressional maps to give Democrats two more seats, which would tip the entire balance of power.

00:10:33.000 So, Don, talk about those kind of couple years off and also how important these races end up being.

00:10:41.000 Again, it's everything.

00:10:42.000 We see it every day.

00:10:44.000 You know, for me, it was particularly tough, right?

00:10:47.000 We're a business family.

00:10:49.000 We're also good and loyal kids.

00:10:52.000 We love my father watching what they tried to do to him.

00:10:55.000 When they couldn't take away his businesses, they tried to bankrupt him.

00:10:59.000 And just so you're clear, a radical judge in the state of New York awarded the of New York half a billion dollars from the Trump Organization for paying back a loan on time with interest.

00:11:13.000 Just so we're clear, the alleged victim, the person that was allegedly wronged, gets on the stand for us and said, we don't know what you're talking about.

00:11:25.000 We wanted to do more business with Trump, not less.

00:11:28.000 They were a feather in our cap, in our portfolio.

00:11:31.000 It got us other business.

00:11:32.000 They never missed a payment.

00:11:34.000 No, no, no.

00:11:34.000 You are the victim.

00:11:35.000 And because of radicalized extremist judges, they win anyway.

00:11:42.000 It doesn't matter.

00:11:43.000 Maybe it gets overturned in appeal.

00:11:44.000 Who knows?

00:11:45.000 But it's still New York, right?

00:11:46.000 I like to say I live in Florida now, but I'm a refugee, political refugee, from the People's Republic of New York because that's what it is.

00:11:54.000 And there's a reason.

00:11:56.000 There's a reason that all of the lawfare took places in areas where they controlled all of the judiciary, right?

00:12:03.000 It was Atlanta, Georgia, and Washington, D.C., and New York City, right?

00:12:09.000 When it happened down in Florida because they lost a jurisdictional battle, all of a sudden that gets thrown out because it was always nonsense.

00:12:16.000 We know that now.

00:12:17.000 It doesn't stop, and we still have to deal with that.

00:12:19.000 You still have to spend millions of dollars in legal fees, and you have to spend millions of dollars to put up a bond because there's a judgment, so you have to spend $25 million.

00:12:28.000 You never get that back, just so we're clear.

00:12:30.000 Even if someone says, this is insane, when liberal lawyers at Columbia are writing op-eds in the New York Times saying, this is actually a miscarriage of justice, and I hate Trump, like, that's how bad it's gotten.

00:12:43.000 That's what's at stake right here.

00:12:46.000 That could become Wisconsin.

00:12:48.000 This one race is the difference between that essential anarchy or a one-party monopoly and sanity, our constitution, common sense. 0.99

00:13:04.000 It literally hinges on this one little battle by most political respects.

00:13:10.000 But it's so fundamentally important.

00:13:13.000 It's so critical.

00:13:14.000 Because they've said they're going to do all of the things they've done everywhere else.

00:13:17.000 She's not even pretending that's not the case.

00:13:20.000 They're saying it because they're okay with that.

00:13:23.000 The same people that are okay with bringing murderers and rapists into our nation.

00:13:28.000 There was that great tweet.

00:13:29.000 I posted it up on my ex account this week, which was like, why is it okay?

00:13:36.000 For a Democrat president to essentially welcome in murderers, rapists, and thugs.

00:13:41.000 Just so we're clear, by Joe Biden's own ICE statistics, 13,000 murderers were allowed into the country.

00:13:48.000 They know that.

00:13:49.000 That's their statistics.

00:13:50.000 Probably padded to make it seem lower.

00:13:52.000 But they still admit that they let in 13,000 murderers.

00:13:55.000 They knew about it and said it was okay anyway.

00:13:58.000 Think about that.

00:13:59.000 16,000 rapists.

00:14:03.000 Think about it.

00:14:04.000 How many counties are there in the country?

00:14:06.000 Like 4,000?

00:14:07.000 Okay. So you're going to add four rapists to every county in America.

00:14:15.000 They voted for that.

00:14:18.000 Just over three and a half murderers into every county, assuming they dispersed them evenly.

00:14:25.000 That hasn't happened, but you've dealt with enough of that.

00:14:26.000 I've seen...

00:14:27.000 Some of the stories from some of the small towns that are these perfect little Midwestern towns.

00:14:31.000 Whitewater, right, if I'm not mistaken?

00:14:32.000 Yeah. Is that not the most...

00:14:34.000 By the way, Tom Homan, we've got to get him on that whole program up there, right?

00:14:37.000 I mean...

00:14:38.000 600,000 known criminals beyond just the murderers and rapists, but, you know, probably not the finest people, right?

00:14:51.000 I promise you.

00:14:52.000 And their sound bite back to us is...

00:14:55.000 Well, you could be deporting the next astronaut.

00:14:58.000 I'm looking at the face hats.

00:15:00.000 I'm saying, probably not.

00:15:02.000 That could be a brain surgeon.

00:15:04.000 I'm like, I don't know.

00:15:04.000 He's 32 and he's killed 50 people.

00:15:07.000 You know, I don't know.

00:15:09.000 I don't know.

00:15:10.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:15:12.000 That guy's probably beyond reform.

00:15:15.000 Maybe we should just get him out.

00:15:17.000 Right? I mean, think about it.

00:15:18.000 But you disperse those across the country and you don't have a country left. 0.88

00:15:24.000 And these same judges are going to be people deciding on that.

00:15:27.000 The Democrat Party has chosen their side.

00:15:31.000 They can't do it.

00:15:32.000 They understand that.

00:15:33.000 Look at all the people in Nashville.

00:15:34.000 The one or two that are, well, maybe we don't want too many murderers or rapists.

00:15:38.000 They're still voting for it because the Soros money is coming in.

00:15:41.000 And if you're not voting for the murderers and the rapists to stay, you're not getting it.

00:15:46.000 That's Democrat Party leadership today.

00:15:48.000 That's just the reality of how it works.

00:15:51.000 There are great Democrats.

00:15:53.000 Across this country, there's just none in real leadership because they can't get there without that outside money.

00:15:59.000 That common-sense, blue-collar Democrat that I bet many of you were prior to Trump, you've been totally forgotten.

00:16:08.000 You've been left by the wayside because they need to support the radical agenda.

00:16:14.000 And even if it's only a small part of the Democrat Party, every single decision-maker is on board.

00:16:21.000 Because they're too afraid to go against the insanity and speak common sense.

00:16:26.000 So this one's up to you guys.

00:16:29.000 But it's literally the future of your state.

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00:17:54.000 And so, Don, I want to ask this.

00:17:58.000 I'm failing to understand.

00:18:00.000 The Democrats, I think, have a 29% approval rating, something like that.

00:18:04.000 I've heard even less.

00:18:05.000 21% approval rating.

00:18:07.000 I still don't know who these 21% of people are, but there's probably some fraud inside all these numbers, right?

00:18:14.000 But, Don, at some point, they seem unwilling to adjust or adapt at all.

00:18:22.000 During your father's speech, they refused to applaud the kid with brain cancer.

00:18:27.000 By the way, just so we're clear, if you don't applaud a kid with brain cancer who's not otherwise even taking a political position, but let's just say you don't even have to, even if he was, you applaud the kid with brain cancer who's 13 and went through seven operations or whatever it was and is sitting there that day, you stand up for that.

00:18:48.000 You applaud the kid who's fourth-generation military.

00:18:53.000 Whose father died as a law enforcement officer, finding out that he got into West Point to serve his nation.

00:18:59.000 You applaud that.

00:19:03.000 You put your differences aside.

00:19:06.000 And guess what?

00:19:08.000 You also stand up for the mother and the sister of the young girl raped and murdered.

00:19:17.000 Because honestly, if you don't, you're literally condoning.

00:19:22.000 The behavior that got you there.

00:19:24.000 And that's what they did.

00:19:25.000 They chose to take those positions.

00:19:27.000 Those are easy.

00:19:28.000 If you stood up for like three or four of these things, whether it was the price of eggs coming down, the price of gas coming down, some of these things that Americans are objectively winning with right now, right?

00:19:38.000 You see Russia and Ukraine finally at peace talks.

00:19:40.000 No, we can't have peace!

00:19:41.000 We need perpetual death!

00:19:44.000 Yeah, well, because the people that pay their bills...

00:19:46.000 They're on the board at Raytheon and Big War, and we've got to sell those missiles and peddle death all over the world.

00:19:52.000 I mean, can't we objectively say that, like, stopping the death is good?

00:19:57.000 My father said that at the CNN town hall, and they tried to ridicule him for that.

00:20:01.000 I'm like, I don't know, isn't that, like, the perfect answer?

00:20:05.000 They've lost their minds, and they've lost their way.

00:20:11.000 But again, there's...

00:20:12.000 Without you guys, we can't do it.

00:20:14.000 This is not a movement for my father.

00:20:16.000 He could have stopped in 2020 and said, you know what, that was a good run.

00:20:19.000 I'm going to get back to work.

00:20:20.000 They would have left him alone.

00:20:21.000 They went after him the way that they did.

00:20:25.000 Not just to get back at him, but to make sure that each and every one of you, whether it's you or someone else who has aspirations to say, you know what, I've done great in the real world.

00:20:34.000 I'm going to bring my skills, my success at doing something other than being a bureaucrat.

00:20:39.000 I'm going to bring that and run for president.

00:20:42.000 Half of that was a message to that person.

00:20:45.000 Don't even think about it.

00:20:47.000 It's not worth it.

00:20:48.000 We're going to throw the full weight and force of media and tech and lawfare, and we're going to go after you, your family, and it's not going to stop to the tune of, it's not just trying to take your business, it's not just trying to bankrupt you, it's not just trying to jail you.

00:21:03.000 I know they don't like my father, but when they try to throw him in jail for 750 years, I'm like, it seems kind of extreme.

00:21:10.000 With the death penalty and having gone through 50 hours of Russia, Russia, Russia when that was still a thing, you know, I get it. 0.95

00:21:16.000 There's nothing they won't do to get their way.

00:21:19.000 And when they can't, they ramp up the rhetoric so extreme, so ridiculously.

00:21:29.000 This XYZ is the greatest threat to democracy ever. 1.00

00:21:32.000 I'm like, I don't know, he just wants to get the price of gas down and stop ramping death all over the world.

00:21:36.000 It doesn't seem too extreme to me, but...

00:21:38.000 They say it so much that they get not just one, but two radicalized liberals, one of whom, you know, all over the New York Times and the Washington Post, to try to kill him.

00:21:51.000 All right?

00:21:52.000 And that's what they did.

00:21:54.000 And guess what?

00:21:55.000 Day after Election Day, they didn't get any of it.

00:21:59.000 They didn't read the mandate.

00:22:01.000 They didn't do this.

00:22:02.000 I saw one commentator, I think it was on CSN or MSDBC, like whatever it was, like CNN.

00:22:08.000 MSDNC, of course.

00:22:10.000 Literally get on there, who cares if you can't afford your groceries?

00:22:14.000 Three-year-olds need gender-affirming care without parental consent.

00:22:17.000 I'm like, wait, what?

00:22:19.000 Yeah. The same people that are so pro-environment are literally burning down Tesla dealerships right now.

00:22:25.000 I'm like, I...

00:22:26.000 They have picked a side, and it is not the side of reason or logic or decency.

00:22:34.000 When someone tells you who they are over and over, believe that.

00:22:37.000 And again, they don't care about your ability to survive or feed your families.

00:22:41.000 They cared about gender-affirming care for three-year-olds without parental consent.

00:22:45.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:22:48.000 Seems pretty insane to me.

00:22:50.000 And the...

00:22:52.000 Let's speak nationally here for a second, Don.

00:23:01.000 Then I want to take a couple questions from this great audience.

00:23:03.000 Which is that the direction of the movement right now, we are ascendant.

00:23:09.000 We are starting to see President Trump really get into gear.

00:23:13.000 I think we're going to see a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine sometime soon, praise God.

00:23:19.000 One of the least talked about by the media accomplishments has now that we actually have a southern border.

00:23:28.000 When Joe Biden was president, there was 10,000 to 15,000 people a day coming across the southern border.

00:23:33.000 It is now a couple hundred, and none of them are coming into the country.

00:23:37.000 They're all getting sent back to their country of origin. 1.00

00:23:40.000 And we are seeing 95% decrease, guys, right?

00:23:47.000 Remember, they're like, well, we have to pass a law to make it.

00:23:50.000 No, you don't.

00:23:51.000 You just need a new president.

00:23:52.000 It's that simple.

00:23:53.000 You just need someone with resolve.

00:23:56.000 Because they wanted it.

00:23:57.000 They could have done this.

00:23:58.000 Even Joe Biden could have done this.

00:24:01.000 But they didn't want to.

00:24:03.000 Because rather than cater to the people of this country, they said, you know what's easier?

00:24:07.000 Just bringing in a bunch of people who are going to be dependent on us forever.

00:24:10.000 And rather than giving you guys what you need and want to live your American dream, we'll just bring in others.

00:24:18.000 I mean, it's wild.

00:24:21.000 And we look at the macro trends right now.

00:24:25.000 Very favorable for what President Trump is trying to do.

00:24:28.000 But understand, the Democrats, they're going to try to get reorganized.

00:24:31.000 And this race right here, according to the Wall Street Journal, is called the most important election of 2025.

00:24:39.000 This Supreme Court race by the Wall Street Journal.

00:24:42.000 In the entire country, there's governor's races happening in Virginia.

00:24:46.000 There's a governor's race happening in New Jersey.

00:24:49.000 They say that this race right here is the most important in the year 2025. 0.99

00:24:54.000 Understand this.

00:24:56.000 George Soros and all of the left-wing billionaires are pouring money into this state.

00:25:01.000 You guys see those ads?

00:25:02.000 You guys see them?

00:25:04.000 They are looking at this race as a way to try to get themselves back into gear.

00:25:09.000 We outnumber them if we show up, everybody.

00:25:12.000 But as Governor Walker mentioned, there's 200,000 people that voted for Trump that don't even show up for this.

00:25:20.000 I'll tell you a true story, and then, Don, I want your comments on this, and we'll do some questions.

00:25:24.000 We have a, maybe he's here tonight, but we have a community of people that support our podcast.

00:25:28.000 And thank you guys for watching our show, The Charlie Kirk Show.

00:25:31.000 Very much appreciated.

00:25:32.000 Thank you, guys.

00:25:35.000 And we have a community of people called members.

00:25:39.000 You guys can join.

00:25:40.000 Become a members at charliekirk.com.

00:25:42.000 Maybe some members are here.

00:25:43.000 About 10,000 people strong.

00:25:45.000 Thank you, guys.

00:25:45.000 Thank you.

00:25:46.000 And maybe the guy's here who called in.

00:25:49.000 But he called in.

00:25:49.000 He's like, hey, Charlie, when are you coming to Wisconsin ever?

00:25:52.000 And I said, actually, I'm going to be coming on St. Paddy's Day, by the way.

00:25:54.000 Happy St. Patrick's Day, everybody.

00:25:58.000 Great Christian missionary to Ireland.

00:26:00.000 It's a beautiful Christian story, actually.

00:26:02.000 And he said, well, why are you coming to Wisconsin?

00:26:06.000 I said, well, to advocate for the state Supreme Court race.

00:26:09.000 And he said, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:26:11.000 Now, this is not a criticism of him.

00:26:13.000 It's not.

00:26:14.000 Because when I started to talk more with him, I realized he was a first-time voter for Donald Trump.

00:26:19.000 He's new to the movement.

00:26:21.000 He's what we would call a low-propensity voter.

00:26:24.000 However, he's become highly engaged.

00:26:27.000 He is a supporter of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:26:29.000 He's a donor to Turning Point USA.

00:26:31.000 He chases ballots.

00:26:32.000 But he was not even aware of this election.

00:26:35.000 Everybody, there are hundreds of thousands of people in this state that have no idea this is even happening.

00:26:41.000 And that's where you have to take out your phone and go text 100 people that you know, that you know are conservative or Trump-like, and like, hey, You've got to go out and vote.

00:26:50.000 You have to encourage your pastors to speak out in favor of talking about this election in the coming weeks.

00:26:59.000 There is time left on the clock, but it was a real eye-opening moment for me, everybody, when this guy, who is obviously engaged enough to be a monthly supporter of the Charlie Kirk program, wasn't even aware of this.

00:27:15.000 And what a tragedy it will be.

00:27:18.000 If we lose this race, because it will not be that we don't outnumber them. 1.00

00:27:22.000 It's just that we have not been able to convert our people into votes.

00:27:27.000 Convert our individuals into real momentum and real enthusiasm.

00:27:31.000 Don. I mean, I think you said it pretty good.

00:27:34.000 I don't know that I could add much to it, but it's 100% right.

00:27:36.000 The reality, there's so many people that believe in what my father's doing.

00:27:39.000 But as we saw, he cannot do it by himself, right?

00:27:43.000 You saw they could censor him back in the first term.

00:27:46.000 They could have guys trying to stop him.

00:27:48.000 This is the roadblock that could be for this entire state, perhaps even the entire region.

00:27:53.000 This is a marker.

00:27:55.000 This is what they will use to drive turnout, to get enthusiasm, to raise more funds for every other race that we got for the next two years.

00:28:01.000 I joke, my midterm cycle started three weeks ago because we already have to be paying attention to those things, right?

00:28:09.000 That's where they're going to try to do it.

00:28:10.000 If you lose Congress, if you lose the Senate, if you do things, whatever they're able to do, they'll just shut it down there forever, and you'll have a stalemate.

00:28:17.000 And a really rough couple of years.

00:28:20.000 I know that people don't want that.

00:28:23.000 I understand that everyone who voted for my father does not want that.

00:28:26.000 But they also have to be clear, they can't just show up when he happens to be at the top of that ticket.

00:28:31.000 We have to do this for so many reasons.

00:28:33.000 I was a real estate developer from New York City.

00:28:36.000 We didn't need to get in this game.

00:28:37.000 And even if I was a lifelong conservative, you have to engage.

00:28:41.000 Because it's not just about now, it's about that future.

00:28:44.000 This presidency could be put to a halt with this vote.

00:28:47.000 It could be put to a halt in two years in November.

00:28:51.000 That's what they're going to try to do.

00:28:52.000 You see, they're not looking to try to help with anything.

00:28:56.000 They're just trying to block whatever it is that they can block.

00:28:59.000 They're trying to get us to wait it out.

00:29:00.000 So we have to stay energized.

00:29:03.000 We have to stay engaged.

00:29:05.000 We have to call whoever it is.

00:29:07.000 If you want to lose Wisconsin, whether it's governors' races in two years, whether it's the...

00:29:11.000 You know, midterms, whether it's the presidency in four, this will do it because they will redistrict the hell out of this thing.

00:29:19.000 They will break every rule imaginable.

00:29:21.000 They will negate everything and say you don't have standing and say you can't combat it.

00:29:25.000 We made such incredible gains over the last few years because people saw exactly what was at stake and got engaged.

00:29:33.000 We cannot take our foot off the gas for one second.

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00:30:44.000 Let's go to a couple questions here, guys.

00:30:47.000 From our great Patriots here in Wisconsin.

00:30:49.000 Yes, sir.

00:30:51.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:30:52.000 Hey, Don.

00:30:52.000 Welcome back to Wisconsin.

00:30:54.000 My name is Hilario DeLeon.

00:30:55.000 I'm the chairman of the Republican Party of Milwaukee County.

00:31:03.000 Charlie, last time I saw you was during the RNC, but before that was in Vegas, and one of the things that you mentioned was the issue of lose by less in areas in Milwaukee.

00:31:13.000 As a matter of fact, that is one of the things that I took as a rally cry for my county party and other county parties across the nation.

00:31:20.000 One of the things that I realized was when I was using that cry, we were getting pushback from people within our own county, within our party, at all levels on that idea on losing by less in areas like Milwaukee.

00:31:33.000 Can you guys explain and maybe expand more on how to better market that idea for those across the country in blue cities on how we can do better and win swing states like Wisconsin every time?

00:31:46.000 What was their objection to that that we should talk about?

00:31:50.000 Winning Milwaukee County, or what was their objection?

00:31:52.000 Well, they thought it was a poor idea to use that phrase, lose by less.

00:31:56.000 Why do you want to lose?

00:31:57.000 Why do you want to lose?

00:31:57.000 I know your father doesn't like to lose.

00:32:00.000 We love to win, obviously.

00:32:02.000 We love winning.

00:32:12.000 Listen, I want to win Milwaukee County, but we also have to understand in so many of these places, right, as someone, as a conservative and a lifelong conservative from New York City, sometimes you get that mindset, we can't do anything, but they've got to understand that by them showing up, you're negating some, you know, the 5% of leftists in some conservative town.

00:32:29.000 I mean, they still have to get out.

00:32:32.000 It's all accretive.

00:32:33.000 So, you know, I understand that marketing, but you've got to get out and everyone just has to vote.

00:32:39.000 It's so...

00:32:40.000 Simple, but people have been trained on our side to be demoralized, to stay at home.

00:32:45.000 That's done by the media.

00:32:48.000 That's why they, you know, and we're figuring out all the craziness with ActBlue and all the fraud that's probably gone on there and all of the kickbacks back from USAID from all over the world.

00:32:55.000 And I think the FBI is going to do something in ActBlue soon.

00:32:58.000 We'll see what happens.

00:33:01.000 So it hasn't been fair, but you've got to remember, in half the congressional races across the country...

00:33:06.000 We're outspend five, sometimes ten to one, and it's still so close.

00:33:11.000 As people start getting it, as they start seeing the gains, they're going to have a higher propensity to become actual voters because they realize that their vote still makes a difference.

00:33:19.000 So I think everyone just has to understand that it does make a difference, that it is a statewide.

00:33:24.000 They all have to turn up.

00:33:25.000 They can't just be demoralized and say, okay, well, it's the vote for mayor, and maybe we're not going to make any progress.

00:33:31.000 Get out there.

00:33:32.000 Stay active.

00:33:33.000 Stay engaged.

00:33:34.000 Call your friends.

00:33:35.000 Make sure everyone's doing that.

00:33:36.000 Whatever you do the day after the election, if you said, hey, guess what?

00:33:39.000 My state's effectively over.

00:33:42.000 Whatever you would do to take that back, to change those gains and actually turn a loss into a gain, do it now.

00:33:50.000 Do it for the next few weeks.

00:33:51.000 It's not that hard.

00:33:52.000 We just have to make sure we stay all in.

00:33:55.000 Yeah, and I mean, I will stand by the statement of lose by less, because in order to eventually win Dane County and Milwaukee, eventually, you have to first lose by less.

00:34:06.000 I mean, look, guys, in Dane County, President Trump outperformed his 2020 result, but I think it was nearly 80-20.

00:34:14.000 It was almost an 80-20 split.

00:34:16.000 And so, yes, the goal should be like, let's dig ourselves out of that hole first.

00:34:20.000 And understand, the Democrats...

00:34:22.000 Back when they were kicking our tail in these elections, they would look at rural areas and say, okay, let's lose by five points less or six points less or seven points less.

00:34:32.000 So I have no problem with the phrase.

00:34:34.000 And also, I agree with Don that if you are in charge of Milwaukee County, if you say, hey, we will only consider a success if we win Milwaukee County.

00:34:46.000 Imagine if that was your judge's success.

00:34:48.000 You wouldn't still be county chair, right?

00:34:51.000 Or it's like, I will only consider it a success if we win Dane County.

00:34:55.000 That's silly, right, everybody?

00:34:57.000 Democrats outnumber Republicans just by raw voter registration data in Dane County, nearly three and a half to one, right?

00:35:04.000 It's the home of University of Wisconsin-Madison.

00:35:07.000 You guys know it very well.

00:35:08.000 So instead, since you have this insane voter registration disadvantage, say, let's lose by ten points less.

00:35:14.000 So I think the phrase is perfectly appropriate, and it gives people in those counties...

00:35:19.000 A way to measure success to get closer to the inevitable objective.

00:35:23.000 Thank you.

00:35:31.000 Hi, I'm Amy Scott.

00:35:33.000 I'm the chair for Moms for Liberty in Waukesha County.

00:35:37.000 It's a great group.

00:35:40.000 I mentioned you to Gavin Newsom.

00:35:43.000 I don't know if you saw that or not.

00:35:44.000 Oh, yes, yes.

00:35:45.000 I testified in Madison for that bill.

00:35:47.000 Last week, actually.

00:35:49.000 So as a mom and the chair of Moms for Liberty, we've seen the Democrat Party completely leave behind women and moms. 0.85

00:35:59.000 And we saw at the joint address all of them wearing pink to support women's rights, but they only care about women's rights when it comes to killing babies, not when it comes to women and girls in sports. 0.90

00:36:11.000 And also Susan Crawford.

00:36:13.000 Is not supporting mothers because she gave a sweetheart sentence to a child rapist and defended that three times at the debate.

00:36:22.000 And so what is your message to moms and women athletes?

00:36:27.000 I know your daughter is a great athlete.

00:36:28.000 So what is your message to moms and girls?

00:36:32.000 They have to understand this, right?

00:36:34.000 The Democrats always somehow controlled the narrative on that.

00:36:36.000 But that's changing.

00:36:37.000 I mean, look at what Charlie and Turning Point has done with youth.

00:36:44.000 If you get the facts out there, men playing in women's sports is not popular.

00:36:49.000 It never has been.

00:36:51.000 I think it was Daily Wire did something a couple weeks ago.

00:36:54.000 They're like, oh, wow, Don Jr. was on this issue in 2017, okay?

00:36:57.000 This was when it was just Twitter, and it was version 1.0.

00:37:00.000 It was 90% leftist.

00:37:02.000 We were suppressed, smothered.

00:37:04.000 And I sort of saw this issue, and again, as the father of actually two fairly very athletic girls, and some boys, but the girls are great athletes. 0.98

00:37:14.000 I said, this is ridiculous.

00:37:16.000 And I saw it then.

00:37:17.000 In 2017, 2018, people on leftist Twitter would reply back, be like, oh, I hate Don Jr. with a passion, but he's actually right.

00:37:26.000 Oh, I can't believe I'm agreeing with Don Jr.

00:37:28.000 No one believes this nonsense.

00:37:30.000 No one thinks it's fair.

00:37:32.000 But when you watch all of Congress sit down so that some guy can get in there and smash someone in the face, that was another person in the audience.

00:37:39.000 Just took a volleyball to the skull that was so bad, it left her disabled.

00:37:44.000 I mean, think about that.

00:37:46.000 It's not fair.

00:37:47.000 And I think it's actually the number one issue where we can make gains with women. 1.00

00:37:52.000 I mean, safety, obviously, across the board.

00:37:54.000 I think people are seeing that when you talk about fentanyl.

00:37:57.000 But people have to talk about that, and they have to say, look at what they want.

00:38:01.000 I can't imagine even some of the more extreme liberals really wanting their daughter changing in a locker room.

00:38:09.000 With a grown man.

00:38:10.000 That doesn't work.

00:38:11.000 It's never going to work.

00:38:13.000 It didn't work in 2017 when the issue was starting and it does not work now.

00:38:17.000 But we have to make people aware.

00:38:19.000 We have to be talking about these things and we have to make sure that people are clear about those positions.

00:38:25.000 You know, if Crawford's doing that, people have to know it because I guarantee you the media is not going to cover that she went all in for light sentencing for, you know, criminal rapists and pedophiles.

00:38:34.000 They'll never tell you that.

00:38:35.000 Okay? Half of their lies are lies by omission.

00:38:39.000 Okay? They'll smother the truth.

00:38:41.000 They'll suppress it.

00:38:42.000 They'll say it didn't happen.

00:38:43.000 Then four years later, like the Wuhan lab leak.

00:38:45.000 Now they're saying, the New York Times this week, you know, five years after we all knew exactly what happened.

00:38:50.000 Oh, you know what?

00:38:50.000 It's disgusting that this happened.

00:38:52.000 It's like, what do you mean?

00:38:55.000 What do you mean?

00:38:56.000 What was it that Jake Tapper did last week?

00:38:58.000 It was like, oh, Jake Tapper wrote a book about Joe Biden's decline.

00:39:02.000 I'm like...

00:39:02.000 That's the arsonist calling the fire department.

00:39:04.000 You mean the guy that's been covering it up for five years?

00:39:07.000 I mean, I wrote a book about it in 2020.

00:39:10.000 Like, everyone knew, everyone saw it, and everyone is complicit.

00:39:15.000 But then they try to get their credibility back by saying, oh, I had no idea.

00:39:19.000 Oh, mea culpa.

00:39:20.000 Six years later, when it doesn't matter.

00:39:21.000 No, no, no.

00:39:22.000 That doesn't work.

00:39:23.000 We have to get that message out.

00:39:24.000 But we're going to be more effective getting that out on social media, talking about it, sending it to your friends.

00:39:29.000 Make sure all the moms... 1.00

00:39:32.000 In all of your contacts, understand that this woman is a radical leftist that wants this. 0.93

00:39:37.000 Because no mother wants their daughter competing against men in sports, okay? 0.72

00:39:41.000 I promise you.

00:39:42.000 They don't want them losing scholarships.

00:39:43.000 I've been doing enough, like, let's call it, you know, triple header, like, softball game type events.

00:39:49.000 Like, you know, no one wants to do that for 18 years only to have their daughter's scholarship taken away forever, okay?

00:39:55.000 That's beyond the common sense aspect of it, beyond the safety issues of it.

00:39:59.000 It's just not real.

00:40:00.000 But we have to know because no one else is going to do that but for us.

00:40:04.000 And I will add one more thing that I'm sure you guys have all seen in the last couple of years how suburban women have become slightly more Democrat than Republican.

00:40:14.000 This issue, especially men and female sports, should be a galvanizing issue to correct that.

00:40:20.000 And we are seeing the Democrat Party become less and less popular.

00:40:24.000 I think in the coming years, we have an opportunity to bring suburban voters home to the Republican Party and build a governing coalition that can last for decades to come.

00:40:34.000 Thank you so much.

00:40:35.000 Thank you.

00:40:41.000 We'll take two more.

00:40:42.000 Yes, sir.

00:40:43.000 I know you.

00:40:44.000 Good to see you.

00:40:45.000 I'm Jack Hogan, the chairman of the Marathon County Republican Party in the bright red.

00:40:50.000 7th District.

00:40:52.000 And I just want to invite you and Turning Point Action to come up to Wausau this weekend.

00:40:56.000 In fact, we're holding a rally for Brad Schimmel in Wausau on Saturday afternoon.

00:41:01.000 We want to rally the troops.

00:41:03.000 We've got the votes up there.

00:41:04.000 We offset Dane County with our votes, all the farmers and all the solid people in the 7th District.

00:41:11.000 So just an invitation to get TPA down there to Wausau one more time.

00:41:18.000 Thank you.

00:41:18.000 Our team will be there.

00:41:19.000 Thank you, my friend.

00:41:20.000 Thank you.

00:41:25.000 We'll do two more because that was more of an announcement, which is fine.

00:41:28.000 Mine might be an announcement, too.

00:41:30.000 What I just wanted to say is thank you both for being here.

00:41:33.000 I serve on the Milwaukee County GOP with Hilario, the best chairman.

00:41:37.000 And thank you both for coming and getting our message out.

00:41:40.000 It's so important that we elect Brad Schimmel.

00:41:42.000 Who we think is amazing, but the fact that you guys came and are doing this is so key and so important, and we're so happy to have you, and I was not paid to say this.

00:41:53.000 Thank you, and I will say this, that one of the reasons why Don agreed, and Don deserves credit, guys.

00:41:59.000 I mean, he has so much.

00:42:00.000 Give it up for Don.

00:42:01.000 I mean, he's just amazing.

00:42:02.000 He had so much to put on his time.

00:42:03.000 Thank you.

00:42:21.000 Thank you guys.

00:42:23.000 And one of the reasons why Don agreed and really cleared out his schedule for this, guys, is we remember back in 2023, a couple years ago, where the off-election year, where we should have won that Supreme Court seat, and we didn't.

00:42:40.000 And now the balance of power is slipping in one direction, and we did not want to be taken by surprise again.

00:42:46.000 And so that is exactly why.

00:42:48.000 I know Don told me, he's like, look, we can't let that repeat.

00:42:52.000 These off-elections matter.

00:42:54.000 If I can leave beautiful Florida to come in.

00:43:00.000 I love Wisconsin.

00:43:01.000 I think it's beautiful, but maybe not in February, March.

00:43:04.000 There are other times, although I used to love going ice fishing in Milwaukee.

00:43:09.000 Yeah, July is a little bit nicer.

00:43:11.000 But, no, but I guess my point is we all have to lead by example, right?

00:43:15.000 So I can ask you guys to make those calls.

00:43:17.000 I can ask you to post about it.

00:43:19.000 You know a lot more people in Wisconsin than I do, right?

00:43:22.000 But, you know, if I can take a day out of my time to do this, and then I'll do the same thing, and I'll talk about it with Charlie on my show, and we'll post about it on social, we'll do what we can.

00:43:31.000 But, again, we can't do it alone, but I don't think it's fair for me to ask you guys to do it.

00:43:35.000 Let me not do anything and just do it from the comforts of my home, right?

00:43:38.000 So we all have to step up.

00:43:40.000 We all have to own that we are part of this movement, and that's how we're going to win.

00:43:45.000 And so we're going to get to another question here.

00:43:49.000 So the action items are like the first thing you should do.

00:43:51.000 Post on social media you are here tonight to draw awareness.

00:43:55.000 Text 100 of your friends.

00:43:56.000 No, seriously.

00:43:56.000 Tell them to vote for Brad Schimmel.

00:43:58.000 It's like that.

00:43:59.000 Just get out there, do it, and explain why.

00:44:01.000 I need you guys to adopt a different mentality than a presidential year.

00:44:05.000 In a presidential year, You don't really need to remind people that there's an election.

00:44:09.000 You need to do a little bit of that.

00:44:10.000 But it's everywhere, right?

00:44:13.000 Everyone's talking about it.

00:44:14.000 This is totally different.

00:44:16.000 If everyone here tonight just did an Instagram post or a Facebook post and tagged your friends, like, oh, wow, thanks for reminding me.

00:44:22.000 I didn't know that.

00:44:22.000 Or it's that third repetition that reminds them to go out and vote.

00:44:26.000 Then text 100 of your friends and knock on some neighbor's doors and download the Turning Point Action app.

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00:45:36.000 Yes, sir.

00:45:39.000 As a newly elected district chair, one of the issues that I've seen, I mean, you guys have this amazing group of young guys, Dixon and Brett, we've all worked with them.

00:45:50.000 And there's a major pull between the older Republicans and the younger Republicans.

00:45:56.000 And there's an issue with...

00:45:57.000 Trust, sometimes.

00:45:58.000 How do we bridge this gap?

00:46:00.000 What's your recommendation to bridge the gap between the old part of the Republican Party, which I'm kind of in the middle there, and the young?

00:46:07.000 I brought my 14-year-old daughter today.

00:46:08.000 You guys have 21, 22-year-olds.

00:46:11.000 How do we bridge that gap and get a trust together?

00:46:15.000 It's a very important issue, I think, in the Republican Party.

00:46:18.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I don't want to overly generalize, and I'd love Don's thoughts on this.

00:46:22.000 Obviously, I'm more sympathetic to the younger approach, and I think the younger approach is why Donald Trump did 13 points better with younger voters in 2024 than he did in 2020.

00:46:33.000 And the president deserves all the credit.

00:46:40.000 But it was also listening to Don and listening to many other people and going on Joe Rogan's show and going on podcasting and embracing a different type of campaign, whereas the old playbook, the Mike Pence playbook, right, is to do things completely different.

00:46:55.000 And so let me just talk very broadly, and then I'll give you some suggestions because I don't know all the details.

00:47:01.000 But the young gun energy that... 0.85

00:47:05.000 That some people are like, ah, I don't know, it might be too aggressive.

00:47:08.000 No, we lean into the aggression, everybody, which is that we are in a new era of politics.

00:47:13.000 It's you either lead, follow, or get out of the way, and the Democrats are not going to abuse our country anymore.

00:47:19.000 It's that simple.

00:47:20.000 And by the way, that...

00:47:21.000 And that is the game that the Democrats have been playing forever, right?

00:47:26.000 They were playing hardball.

00:47:28.000 We were playing t-ball.

00:47:29.000 We said, oh, well, we have to have the...

00:47:32.000 They would do whatever it took to win.

00:47:34.000 So, you know, I understand everything that you're saying.

00:47:36.000 By the way, I'd say there are schisms between the Republican Party and, like, a MAGA, America First individual.

00:47:44.000 But I can say that we probably agree on, like, 90% of things.

00:47:47.000 I always liken it back to, like, business.

00:47:49.000 You never get everything that you want for every little thing, but take those incremental gains.

00:47:54.000 That's what we do poorly.

00:47:55.000 We sit there and we'll blow up a deal that gets us 95% of what we want because one person said, I didn't get 100% and we're like petulant children.

00:48:04.000 The Democrats, they take a 51% vote and they live to fight another day and they start chipping away with death by a thousand cuts on the remaining 49% starting literally the next day.

00:48:14.000 We have to understand that and embrace all of that.

00:48:16.000 It doesn't mean the young kids want everything.

00:48:18.000 It doesn't mean the old guys are right about everything. 0.75

00:48:20.000 But I think we can agree on almost the vast majority of the major issues.

00:48:25.000 And right now, our ability to effectuate the results that we all voted for, which is with my father at the helm, hinges on all of us getting together, putting aside whatever petty differences there are, winning in our respective lanes, and getting the vast majority of these things done wherever possible.

00:48:43.000 So here's a good way.

00:48:45.000 Establish some rules of how you think about it.

00:48:47.000 A matrix, right?

00:48:49.000 Regardless of age, the person who is most principled and most consistent with stated values that they shared voters should be the one that's taken more seriously.

00:48:57.000 So if there is a game where, for example, if people are saying, well, I know we told the voters we'd do this, but in reality we're going to do that, I don't care if they're 22 years old or 82 years old, that person should be...

00:49:10.000 Run out of the room because that has no place in the Republican Party, right?

00:49:13.000 Secondly, if somebody says, well, we don't need to work that hard or we could just kind of phone in.

00:49:20.000 I don't care if that person is 22 or 82. That should be dismissed. 0.99

00:49:24.000 Finally, I think, though, that regardless of age, there needs to be a constant reevaluation of are we doing the best job that we can to reach new communities, reach new voters?

00:49:34.000 Guys, I mentioned this previously.

00:49:36.000 When we were in exile, we had to dig really deep.

00:49:39.000 I mean, Don will tell you.

00:49:41.000 We're getting a lot of phone calls now from every powerful person on the planet.

00:49:45.000 Don's texting with them.

00:49:46.000 We're laughing.

00:49:47.000 We're like, oh yeah, did that tech billionaire also text you?

00:49:49.000 I mean, everyone.

00:49:50.000 For four years, it seems they lost our phone numbers, right, Don?

00:49:54.000 Hey guys, we're back.

00:49:57.000 What changed?

00:49:58.000 That's weird.

00:49:59.000 We were with you all along, Don.

00:50:01.000 I'm like, I got a bunch of unanswered text messages that says otherwise.

00:50:04.000 But fine.

00:50:05.000 We can all agree.

00:50:07.000 We've got to move forward.

00:50:08.000 The point being, though, is that when we were in exile, we decided to become scrappier and more innovative.

00:50:14.000 And so I hope that's somewhat helpful for you, and thank you for being involved.

00:50:18.000 Really appreciate it.

00:50:18.000 Okay, one more question.

00:50:20.000 One more question, guys.

00:50:24.000 Hi, I just wanted to thank you again for being here.

00:50:27.000 It's so appreciated.

00:50:29.000 Brian is awesome.

00:50:31.000 Anyhow, I just wanted to say, you know, in talking, one of the points that we're talking about, Is with some of the older adults and younger adults, which I have noticed.

00:50:42.000 I'm kind of up there in age, anyhow.

00:50:46.000 One thing I've been working a lot with older adults and trying to get them, because as we get older, we kind of get set in our ways, right?

00:50:56.000 I mean, it happens.

00:50:57.000 It's natural.

00:50:59.000 But it's really good.

00:51:01.000 I thank you guys, first of all, for being here, for giving me...

00:51:05.000 Some ammunition to tell people when they're calling me who should I vote for and da-da-da.

00:51:10.000 But it's so important that we need to embrace as older adults what the younger adults are doing.

00:51:19.000 The one thing I'm so impressed with Milwaukee County, the first time I met the board.

00:51:26.000 I was so impressed.

00:51:27.000 One thing that they're doing is not only getting younger adults involved, because all the time at UW-Madison, UW-Milwaukee, come on, there's Democrat parties all over.

00:51:39.000 Nothing with Republicans.

00:51:41.000 Now we've got them.

00:51:42.000 But the other thing is, they're getting people that are of different races.

00:51:48.000 We're running out of time.

00:51:49.000 What's the question?

00:51:50.000 I'm sorry.

00:51:51.000 Different general.

00:51:52.000 How can we really look at...

00:51:55.000 Getting other people involved of different, you know, religions and everything.

00:52:05.000 And that's one thing I've impressed.

00:52:06.000 So let me tell you, so I believe that what, thank you so much, I believe what Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action, what we have done to move young people is one of the most significant and transformational developments in conservative politics the last couple of years.

00:52:21.000 I really believe that.

00:52:24.000 I joke around with Don.

00:52:26.000 Don is the angel investor of Turning Point.

00:52:28.000 He was like the first person really to believe in us.

00:52:30.000 Back in early 2016, when we were very small, that was year three and a half of Turning Point.

00:52:37.000 We're now on year 13. So Don deserves a lot of the credit because he spoke at every event, never asked for anything, and now Turning Point is bigger than ever.

00:52:45.000 It really is amazing.

00:52:50.000 So the reason I bring that up is that we have a unique expertise in showing how we can broaden the coalition, not just bring in new people into the fold.

00:53:01.000 And there's a couple rules for it.

00:53:04.000 Number one, you have to go actively to places where they don't agree with you.

00:53:09.000 I go to college campuses so you guys don't have to, right?

00:53:13.000 I talk to Gavin Newsom so you guys don't have to, right?

00:53:20.000 So in Milwaukee County, every weekend someone should be going to black churches. 0.95

00:53:25.000 You guys should be going into community centers where they do not agree with you.

00:53:29.000 The second of which is finding messages that can agree with these communities.

00:53:34.000 And the third of which, which I think is really important, is being relentless.

00:53:38.000 At Turning Point, we are relentless.

00:53:40.000 Don, how often did they say, oh, it's a waste of time?

00:53:43.000 You can't organize on these college campuses.

00:53:45.000 By the way, honestly, when I was introduced to Charlie in late 15, it was very much that.

00:53:51.000 I think you were, what, 20?

00:53:53.000 Yeah, 21. 21. 21. And we're starting this campaign, and let's just say we didn't know anything.

00:54:00.000 We didn't know what we were doing.

00:54:01.000 It was brutal.

00:54:03.000 And a couple friends met Charlie, and they were really impressed.

00:54:05.000 Like, you've got to sit down with this guy.

00:54:07.000 I was like, okay, tell me about it.

00:54:08.000 He knows more about this stuff than anyone.

00:54:10.000 I was like, a couple more details.

00:54:11.000 Well, he's 21. And I go, stop!

00:54:14.000 Stop. We have enough people in this campaign that don't know anything.

00:54:18.000 I don't need to hear from another 21-year-old that doesn't do it.

00:54:20.000 My friends were very convincing.

00:54:22.000 I sat down with Charlie, and in five minutes, I was like, congratulations, pack your bags, you're on the team.

00:54:25.000 Like, let's just go.

00:54:27.000 And we travel.

00:54:29.000 But... But you actually...

00:54:33.000 You have to take those chances to get out of your comfort zone, to trust someone else that they may be able to do that.

00:54:38.000 Find that good messenger and then actively work to do it.

00:54:41.000 You know, if he's saying to go into a blank church, maybe you're not the messenger, but maybe you know someone who is.

00:54:46.000 You know, find those things.

00:54:48.000 Create that talent.

00:54:49.000 Be the catalyst for that, right?

00:54:51.000 You know, Charlie and I went all in for J.D. Vance when he was running in fourth place in an Ohio Senate primary.

00:55:02.000 It was like, well, why would you do that?

00:55:03.000 Because we knew the guy.

00:55:04.000 We knew him personally.

00:55:05.000 We saw the talent.

00:55:05.000 We knew what could be.

00:55:07.000 We just needed someone to actually have the guts to go all in.

00:55:10.000 The big guys in the fundraising world, they're not going to touch that guy.

00:55:13.000 He's in fourth place.

00:55:14.000 I want to stick with the guy that's going to at least make it far so they keep paying my bills.

00:55:19.000 The establishment, I'm not going to go against the guy that's going to win.

00:55:23.000 Sometimes you have to get out of your comfort zone a little bit.

00:55:25.000 Take those chances.

00:55:27.000 Go with, you know, your gut, your spirit, that talent, and don't just go with that establishment and where it was going.

00:55:32.000 You know, and I think now you have it, honestly, the only impressive vice president of my lifetime.

00:55:38.000 You know, and that's not even close.

00:55:40.000 But that risk was not popular.

00:55:43.000 Okay, when I went all in, and Charlie did as well, but especially me, when I went all in for JD, for VP.

00:55:50.000 I was up against every billionaire Republican donor.

00:55:53.000 I used up my political capital with my father till, like, 2079.

00:55:57.000 I will be dead, and I will still have not caught back up, but it was the right call.

00:56:03.000 And I knew it was the right call.

00:56:05.000 Maybe the first couple...

00:56:06.000 Yeah, I knew it was the right call anyway, but I knew it was the first couple...

00:56:09.000 Really, it was the debate.

00:56:11.000 The debate happened, the vice presidential debate, J.D. just slaughters him.

00:56:15.000 We got to the point where Tim Walsh is nodding along with J.D. for, like, I agree with everything you're...

00:56:18.000 I'm like...

00:56:18.000 I think he's voting for Trump.

00:56:21.000 But I go and I do the spin room, the media afterwards, right?

00:56:25.000 And I did like two hours of press, and my phone keeps ringing in my pocket, and I assume it's a bunch of different people that were like, that was great, and it wasn't.

00:56:32.000 It was one person that called me 15 times.

00:56:35.000 His name is Donald Trump.

00:56:37.000 And I was like, oh boy.

00:56:39.000 And I called him back after two hours of press.

00:56:41.000 It's like 2 o'clock in the morning, and he picks up the phone, first ring.

00:56:45.000 You know, Don?

00:56:48.000 Don, I did that one for you, Don.

00:56:51.000 There were a lot of people that wanted me to do something else, and I did that one for you.

00:56:58.000 But Don, that was a 10. That was a 10, and Don, there's not a lot of 10s.

00:57:08.000 So, it's okay to break from that mold.

00:57:12.000 I mean, Trump broke from that mold, right?

00:57:14.000 If you would have had the traditional Republican Marty.

00:57:16.000 Guess what?

00:57:17.000 You'd have Kamala Harris as president right now. 1.00

00:57:21.000 Exactly. So, you know, you have to understand, just because you've been there a long time doesn't mean you're necessarily right about everything.

00:57:27.000 It doesn't mean you have to ostracize everyone.

00:57:29.000 And, you know, again, you probably agree on 90% of the issues, so take the wins and move on.

00:57:33.000 Win. It's all about winning.

00:57:36.000 So, in closing, guys...

00:57:38.000 Post on social media that you are here and make noise about this election to your friends and family.

00:57:44.000 Text 100 people.

00:57:45.000 Chase ballots.

00:57:46.000 We have to save our court in order to save this great state of Wisconsin.

00:57:50.000 Look, I grew up in northern Illinois, and I know what a Midwestern state can become if you do not care for your home.

00:58:00.000 And, yeah, I mean, J.B. Pritzker, oh my goodness, I'll tell you what.

00:58:04.000 But... All kidding aside, Illinois used to be a deep red state.

00:58:08.000 A state that Ronald Reagan won.

00:58:09.000 A state where governors were always Republican.

00:58:12.000 And now it's one where people flee Illinois, and we have term limits in Illinois, but it's different.

00:58:17.000 It's one term in office, one term in jail.

00:58:19.000 I mean, the whole thing is all screwed up, right?

00:58:22.000 I know what it can become if you do not take seriously these types of elections.

00:58:28.000 So you need to go stay engaged.

00:58:30.000 Stay involved.

00:58:31.000 These next couple weeks will determine everything.

00:58:33.000 We are peaking at the right time, everybody.

00:58:36.000 We are peaking at the right time.

00:58:38.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:58:39.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 23, 2025

Why You Need to Care About Wisconsin — Live with Donald Trump Jr.

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