The Charlie Kirk Show - Will Britain Awaken? Can the West Save Itself?

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00:01:17.000 All right.

00:01:20.000 It is June 3rd, and what a June 3rd.

00:01:23.000 We had a great night last night.

00:01:24.000 We're here at the YRefi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:01:27.000 How are we doing, Blake?

00:01:28.000 Oh, we're doing splendid.

00:01:29.000 We're doing splendid around here.

00:01:30.000 We're going to start off the show right here.

00:01:33.000 We're going to welcome in two guests, not one, but two.

00:01:36.000 We got Tyler Boyer, COO of Turning Point Action, who's been the architect.

00:01:40.000 Of a lot of turning points, political strategies.

00:01:43.000 And we have the next governor from the great state of Iowa, Zach Lane, join us, who had a huge primary victory last night in Iowa.

00:01:52.000 Welcome to you both, gentlemen.

00:01:54.000 Thanks for having me.

00:01:55.000 Wonderful.

00:01:56.000 Tyler, since you have been behind so much of this, why don't you set the stage for Mr. Lane here and what happened last night in Iowa?

00:02:05.000 Man, what a huge victory, Zach.

00:02:08.000 We're just so incredibly proud.

00:02:11.000 To see what can happen when you have people listen to the voters, actually represent the voters.

00:02:18.000 How are you feeling today following this massive, massive win?

00:02:22.000 Overwhelmed, great, thankful, grateful.

00:02:25.000 It's just, you know, we felt good coming in.

00:02:27.000 We could feel the energy on the ground.

00:02:29.000 I'm sure you heard it from your people that are out here.

00:02:32.000 They're working very hard.

00:02:33.000 I see them at every event we're doing, they're out there.

00:02:36.000 We felt a movement growing.

00:02:36.000 And we could just feel it.

00:02:38.000 I would say to all my events, and it came through.

00:02:42.000 The people won.

00:02:44.000 Amen.

00:02:45.000 Zach, so last night defied a lot of political odds, a little prognosticators.

00:02:51.000 They didn't see this coming.

00:02:54.000 And we got to sort of deal with the elephant in the room here first.

00:02:56.000 Your opponent was endorsed, I believe, sort of last minute by President Trump.

00:03:00.000 We had endorsed you.

00:03:02.000 Some people might see that as a disconnect.

00:03:05.000 I don't, actually.

00:03:06.000 I believe that President Trump and RFK Jr. started the MAGA Maha partnership.

00:03:13.000 And this is a continuation of this.

00:03:15.000 Explain to the audience who maybe is still getting to know you.

00:03:18.000 Nationally, you know, kind of your stance as a farmer in Iowa and about pesticides, glyphosate, so much that has animated people like Alex Clark on our team.

00:03:29.000 And explain how that resonated with voters.

00:03:31.000 Yeah, you know, I think a lot of what I talk about is facing down these long term systemic issues we've been, you know, looking at as a state, you know, that have been going on for a very long time.

00:03:40.000 And politicians from both sides just have not been addressing.

00:03:43.000 You know, one of the keys that you're mentioning there is Iowa has the fastest rate of new cancer of anywhere in the history of the world.

00:03:49.000 You know, we are, I said last night, we're going to funerals of people who are dying at 60, whose parents lived to be 80.

00:03:55.000 We're losing the wisdom of an entire generation.

00:03:58.000 So, but there's other things too that are really resonating with people.

00:04:02.000 You know, I was losing our kids faster than 46 other states.

00:04:06.000 And, you know, I was one of those kids.

00:04:08.000 I thought I had to leave Iowa to find something better and end up coming back home.

00:04:12.000 But I'm really fighting to try to make life more affordable, to help kids be able to buy their first homes, grow big families.

00:04:18.000 That's really a lot of what our campaign's been about.

00:04:21.000 And I think that there's this message of sort of economic populism mixed with the MAHA agenda that is a winning message.

00:04:30.000 Across the country, I truly believe that, and we're trying to weld those two things together because I truly believe them.

00:04:36.000 And you know, I think you guys might know this, but uh, Charlie and I first met in 2011, he was 17, and we spoke at the same event together.

00:04:45.000 It was in you can still find the article in I think Kalispell, Montana.

00:04:48.000 I thought, who the heck is this guy? 0.95

00:04:50.000 Like all this energy he has, and he had the poster, Big Government Sucks. 0.90

00:04:55.000 But I've followed you guys and him for a long time, and I've watched him talk about those same issues.

00:05:04.000 That's really what our campaign's been about.

00:05:07.000 It's four key issues keeping Iowa's kids in Iowa, saving our family farms, making our education system number one in the nation again, and stopping the cancer crisis.

00:05:16.000 Wow.

00:05:16.000 So, if anybody is out there wondering why we endorsed this guy for governor in Iowa, he sounds, I mean, everything you just said, Zach, sounds so reminiscent of what we heard Charlie say day in, day out on this show, on college campuses affordability, taking care of the next generation, making sure that they get to inherit the American dream, buy a home, start a family.

00:05:40.000 And obviously, taking care of this cancer crisis in Iowa, which is a local issue, but it's a national issue.

00:05:45.000 You guys maybe have it a little bit in greater measure because of all the farming.

00:05:50.000 Perhaps that's it.

00:05:52.000 I want to dive into the issue that you talked about, though glyphosate.

00:05:56.000 That's something that, you know, Alex Clark, I mentioned her before, she's very passionate about this.

00:06:00.000 What would you like to see happen?

00:06:02.000 Because, you know, you hear voices like RFK Jr. that echo what you're saying, but they also understand there's an economic reality and you have to off ramp over time, right?

00:06:11.000 You can't rug pull the entire.

00:06:13.000 You know, agricultural business.

00:06:15.000 What are you saying to voters in Iowa about this issue?

00:06:18.000 Well, first, you have to look at this from two different standpoints.

00:06:20.000 One is the economic issue.

00:06:22.000 We have, when I was growing up in Iowa, we had about 300 seed input and fertilizer companies selling products to our farmers.

00:06:27.000 Now, three companies control 85% of the market.

00:06:31.000 They need to be broken up through antitrust suits, it's far past monopoly.

00:06:34.000 And so the farmers see they're being extorted on prices there.

00:06:38.000 And so, what I've really made the case of is the same companies that are extorting on prices are also lying to you about the safety of their products.

00:06:44.000 And so, the state I've watched as Ron DeSantis has done this in Florida.

00:06:48.000 We need to be doing independent research on the safety of products.

00:06:51.000 We need to incentivize off ramps for farmers to different types of farming, just like we do on our farm today.

00:06:56.000 I run a regenerative farm, most of it's organic, the rest is being transitioned in.

00:07:02.000 And part of the reason I do that is because, on a per acre basis, we can make more money. 0.98

00:07:06.000 And that's a big part of my goal is you know, right now, young people can't afford to get on farms.

00:07:10.000 And so, I want to restore that heritage of my state.

00:07:14.000 My goal has been very clear.

00:07:15.000 I want farmers to make more money, live longer, healthier lives, and pass something down to their kids.

00:07:21.000 That's my whole goal.

00:07:22.000 And I think that the reliance on some of these big ag groups that are creating products and then not telling the truth about their safety is a bad thing.

00:07:30.000 So, one of the key things I'm pushing for, which Alex and the Maha movement have been pushing for, is no immunity from liability for pesticide companies.

00:07:38.000 If your product harms somebody, they deserve to have recourse.

00:07:40.000 It's a part of the free market to do that.

00:07:42.000 Wow.

00:07:43.000 Man, it's music to my ears.

00:07:45.000 Yes, Tyler, please chime in here.

00:07:48.000 One of the exciting parts, I think, for us, especially from Turning Point, is I mean, you becoming governor of Iowa would make you one of the youngest governors, if not the youngest governor in the Republican Party.

00:08:00.000 I mean, that's a big deal.

00:08:02.000 That's a huge deal for millennials.

00:08:05.000 I mean, what's your take and what's the community?

00:08:08.000 I mean, the largest voting block now is millennials in America.

00:08:12.000 What's your message specifically to millennials in addition to the Maha message?

00:08:16.000 I think the big thing is get ready to come to Iowa.

00:08:18.000 Truly, I want to make this a place they want to live and grow a family.

00:08:21.000 We have.

00:08:22.000 An amazing quality of life here.

00:08:24.000 There's things, there's big problems we need to solve.

00:08:27.000 But ultimately, that's my goal.

00:08:28.000 Like, look, under the 10th Amendment, we are supposed to be competing to be the best state.

00:08:33.000 And that's what I'm trying to do is figure out how do we compete to be better.

00:08:36.000 And I'm even calling for things like income tax abatements that would go towards a down payment on a home if you're willing to move back to Iowa, if you graduate from high school here.

00:08:45.000 And it would go into an account to help you afford a home.

00:08:48.000 And for every kid that leaves our state, we lose $450,000 in tax revenue.

00:08:53.000 And I'm more concerned about the culture and the heritage and the family traditions.

00:08:57.000 That's my bigger concern.

00:08:58.000 But economic doesn't make sense.

00:09:00.000 We can give these abatements and still be in the black and help it be an affordable place to raise a family.

00:09:06.000 Tyler, people don't understand what Turning Point Action is doing in Iowa.

00:09:06.000 Wow.

00:09:11.000 Zach mentioned it before.

00:09:13.000 He saw our team out there everywhere.

00:09:14.000 Just please give a little primer on that.

00:09:17.000 Yeah.

00:09:17.000 I mean, this is, we view this, everyone's so excited about Zach, about laying for governor.

00:09:24.000 Obviously, but I mean, this is a broader thing.

00:09:27.000 Iowa is one of the most critical states in the nation.

00:09:29.000 2028 is going to be fast upon us.

00:09:32.000 We have a presidential election.

00:09:34.000 Iowa, everyone knows, is the first place that all presidential campaigns start.

00:09:38.000 And so, this is just the beginning of a whole lot of Iowa talk, which is, you know, we got to get Governor Lane elected.

00:09:47.000 And then from there, we have almost immediately a presidential race that's happening.

00:09:52.000 And so, turning point action is.

00:09:54.000 Is dedicated.

00:09:55.000 We've launched Iowa 99 at iowan99.com, where we have leaders in every single county across all 99 counties in Iowa.

00:10:03.000 And so we're wanting to establish a long term base of activism that's not just going to be able to make sure that the agenda that Governor Lane will institute will happen, but we have a great outcome for 2028.

00:10:16.000 All right, guys, this was fantastic.

00:10:19.000 The future governor of Iowa, thank you for joining us.

00:10:22.000 Congratulations on a magnificent win last night.

00:10:25.000 We are behind you 100%.

00:10:26.000 Thank you very much.

00:10:27.000 And thank you to the Turning Point Warriors on the ground in Iowa.

00:10:29.000 Thank you.

00:10:30.000 Thank you.

00:10:30.000 God bless you, Zach.

00:10:31.000 All right, Tyler, we're going to go around the horn.

00:10:34.000 I asked you which state did you want to start with.

00:10:37.000 And you said South Dakota.

00:10:40.000 So tell us, it's Blake's home state.

00:10:42.000 So he was very excited.

00:10:43.000 They had quite the primary.

00:10:45.000 It was a four way race where basically anyone could have won.

00:10:48.000 And you needed 35% to avoid a runoff.

00:10:51.000 And I don't think anyone got that high, right, Tyler?

00:10:54.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:10:55.000 So it's going to end up in a runoff.

00:10:57.000 The in typical fashion, a sitting governor really has no problem whatsoever making it through a primary.

00:11:06.000 In this case, we have a governor who was on the ballot and it came in second place.

00:11:13.000 And it was like Blake mentioned very easily, he could have come in fourth place because all four of them were relatively close, none of them broke the threshold necessary to win.

00:11:25.000 And so it's going to a runoff.

00:11:27.000 But Toby Doden.

00:11:29.000 Came in first.

00:11:30.000 He's a MAGA style candidate, big supporter of the president.

00:11:33.000 Turning Point Action has endorsed Toby.

00:11:36.000 He's a conservative.

00:11:38.000 He won out the day.

00:11:39.000 There was another great candidate, John Hansen, who was in the race, who's the Speaker of the House there.

00:11:46.000 Blake's actually good friends with him as well.

00:11:50.000 Just barely came in fourth place.

00:11:52.000 Like we mentioned, it was really close.

00:11:54.000 But the story of the day was that the governor came in second, not a staunch conservative, not viewed as a staunch conservative, viewed more as an establishment candidate.

00:12:06.000 And this is part of the reason why he did not do very well, where he lost pretty significant margins of votes to three other candidates last night.

00:12:16.000 And Toby is kind of leaning as the front runner.

00:12:18.000 It was.

00:12:19.000 You know, a pretty decent lead that he had over the governor coming out of this thing into the runoff.

00:12:27.000 So, you're going to see that.

00:12:28.000 You want to keep an eye on this.

00:12:28.000 This is the reason why this matters so much.

00:12:31.000 Remember, Senator Thune is from the state of South Dakota.

00:12:36.000 And South Dakota right now is getting a heavy amount of brunt directed at it because the Save America Act is not getting passed.

00:12:45.000 And so, this is the governor's race.

00:12:49.000 I'm reminding people it's really, really critical because.

00:12:53.000 This could really start to impact decisions that are being made, whether Thune decides to run again.

00:12:59.000 If someone's going to challenge Thune, especially if the Save America Act does not get done because it doesn't look like the president's agenda is getting executed in the U.S. Senate.

00:13:10.000 Well, and to underscore Tyler's point here, I mean, we've got Bill Cassidy lost his primary, John Cornyn lost his primary.

00:13:16.000 You've got Mark Lynch and Lady Graham going head to head in South Carolina next week, I believe, on the ninth.

00:13:22.000 We're watching that one.

00:13:23.000 We're going to have Mark Lynch on the show again soon.

00:13:24.000 And then you've got, I'm missing one.

00:13:27.000 I'm missing one.

00:13:28.000 Who else got primary?

00:13:29.000 Anyway, the point is the old guard is getting challenged in ways that they have not been challenged in a long time.

00:13:36.000 And to Tyler's point, if you think Thune is untouchable, think again.

00:13:40.000 Toby's election here or winning this primary, yeah, they're going to a runoff, but his victory here says that anything is possible in South Dakota.

00:13:50.000 And it shows it's a temperature check of the base voter.

00:13:53.000 Well, Andrew, you'd be an insane person if you're Thune looking at the results from last night.

00:13:59.000 And thinking that you can get away with not passing the Save America Act.

00:14:03.000 So you have two things that could happen out of this, I think.

00:14:06.000 One is that, I mean, there's really, I mean, there's people making calls today saying, I want to run against Thune based off of the results of yesterday's primary.

00:14:15.000 But you have a secondary issue here, which is is he going to dig his heels in and basically defy the president or aid the Democrats and really nasty stuff that could happen after midterms?

00:14:30.000 Or is he going to get on board, look at his own state, his own home, and say, I can't keep messing around anymore.

00:14:38.000 I got to get this thing done.

00:14:39.000 I'm going to make sure that the Senate is called back in and we're work groups and figuring this out until the Save America Act gets done because there's still a very small window, but still a window left to get this thing done before this election.

00:14:54.000 That's well said, Tyler.

00:14:55.000 I think Thune is definitely on notice now.

00:14:57.000 I'm going to play this hilarious clip out of LA.

00:15:00.000 We turn our attention to the West Coast.

00:15:03.000 Steve Hilton is in first, but it's going to take two months for them to count the votes in California.

00:15:06.000 So we'll check back in in a couple months.

00:15:09.000 But, anyways, this is a touch point outside of Spencer Pratt's party last night, 32.

00:15:15.000 There's some Spencer Pratt supporters here who seem in a very good mood.

00:15:20.000 What is it about Spencer Pratt that you just are resonating with you? 0.98

00:15:24.000 Because he's speaking out against communism and socialism, and it is a real big problem in our cities, especially in LA where it's turned to crap. 0.96

00:15:31.000 It's not an accident. 0.98

00:15:32.000 They're doing it by design. 1.00

00:15:34.000 Karen Bass wants to destroy our city.

00:15:35.000 And it's nice to see someone like Spencer Brown. 0.92

00:15:37.000 I can simplify it because those buzzwords are like they melt the brains of left leaning people.

00:15:45.000 So let's just say it this way. 0.98

00:15:46.000 He doesn't want you, a human feces, to be a part of your life. 0.98

00:15:49.000 He doesn't want homeless children outside. 1.00

00:15:52.000 Thank you. 0.97

00:15:53.000 Oh, you do like that.

00:15:55.000 Oh, you ran away.

00:15:57.000 We don't want homeless people outside of the elementary.

00:16:00.000 We appreciate you.

00:16:01.000 We appreciate you.

00:16:03.000 We appreciate you, ma'am.

00:16:05.000 I got it.

00:16:05.000 Thank you for navigating that so well.

00:16:08.000 That was MS Now last night.

00:16:10.000 God bless America.

00:16:11.000 Yeah, God bless America.

00:16:13.000 That's the LA I know and love.

00:16:14.000 Anyways, listen, here's the deal Spencer Pratt.

00:16:17.000 Hanging into second, but there are doubts that he's going to be able to hang on.

00:16:21.000 Tyler, I've been on more group chats with you than I can count where people are like, What about Spencer Pratt?

00:16:28.000 Your thoughts on what we're going to see unfold as mail in ballots continue to stream in over the next two weeks? 0.80

00:16:33.000 Yeah, look, I mean, the hope I think that we all had was that it would be Spencer Pratt versus the communist and that she would take off. 0.94

00:16:41.000 And I think that that's the commies thought that they could turn her into somewhat of a Mamdani, but she didn't take off, she didn't have support. 0.93

00:16:51.000 Karen Bass was able to maintain her base support. 0.73

00:16:55.000 And the problem that's ahead for us now is that, you know, Spencer Pratt's going to have to convince a wide variety of people to vote for him in a runoff, which is going to occur on the same day as the midterm election.

00:17:12.000 So that's difficult.

00:17:14.000 I'm going to be very honest with the audience right now.

00:17:16.000 That is a difficult, tall task ahead, but it can be done if Spencer has the right campaign.

00:17:21.000 And Hilton looks like he's going to make it through as well.

00:17:24.000 Thank you, Tyler Boyer.

00:17:25.000 Great analysis.

00:17:26.000 We'll see you soon.

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00:18:44.000 All right, without further ado, this is an issue Blake and I have been talking about behind the scenes for the last, I don't know, couple weeks actually, and we're going to be covering it on the show.

00:18:52.000 Here to help us do it is Ben Leo.

00:18:55.000 He is the US correspondent for GB News out of the UK.

00:19:00.000 He's also got a show.

00:19:01.000 Hold on.

00:19:02.000 Let me get the show.

00:19:03.000 Actually, Ben, what's the name of your show?

00:19:04.000 Hey, mate.

00:19:05.000 Good to see you.

00:19:06.000 The channel is GB News, the UK's number one news channel.

00:19:09.000 And the show, which I host here from DC, is called The Late Show Live.

00:19:13.000 Beautiful.

00:19:14.000 The Late Show Live with Ben Leo.

00:19:16.000 We've had you on the show before with Charlie.

00:19:19.000 It's great to see you again.

00:19:20.000 Obviously, this Henry Nowak story has been building and building and building as we found out the details of it.

00:19:29.000 Why don't you just set the stage for our audience who maybe he doesn't know yet?

00:19:33.000 What happened here, and then we'll get into some analysis.

00:19:36.000 Yeah, sure.

00:19:37.000 Well, look, great to be with you.

00:19:38.000 When I had the privilege of speaking to Charlie last year in London, he said to me that the UK needs to get its mojo back.

00:19:44.000 That was one thing I remembered amongst many things from my conversation with Charlie.

00:19:48.000 And I think this is going to be the tipping point, Andrew, for the UK to finally pull its socks up and get its mojo back.

00:19:54.000 Because what we saw with this case, the murder of Henry Novak, it wasn't just a murder in the true sense.

00:20:01.000 It was anti white, it was racism, it was a dereliction of duty.

00:20:06.000 What happened was, long story short, Henry, young 18 year old lad.

00:20:10.000 Bright future ahead of him.

00:20:11.000 He was on a night out with friends in town.

00:20:13.000 He'd had a few drinks, although he wasn't drunk.

00:20:15.000 He was below the legal drink drive limit in the UK.

00:20:18.000 He was walking back home to his house in Southampton.

00:20:21.000 At some point, he came across a guy called Vikram Digwa, who was a 23 year old.

00:20:27.000 He's a Sikh Indian chap, also lived in Southampton, where Henry was from.

00:20:31.000 And at some point, there was an exchange of words late at night.

00:20:36.000 Henry filmed Digwa on his phone on Snapchat that he was saying that you're a bad man, aren't you? 0.62

00:20:41.000 You're a bad man.

00:20:42.000 There was some exchange of words.

00:20:43.000 And at some point after that, In the minutes that followed, it ended up with poor Henry, who again is an 18 year old boy, somebody's mother, somebody's son, somebody's brother. 0.84

00:20:52.000 He was stabbed five times by Digwala using his ceremonial sword, which is a kippan.

00:21:00.000 So, in the United Kingdom, you're not allowed to carry a knife anywhere, it's illegal, it's against the law. 0.97

00:21:04.000 However, Sikhs have a religious exemption, they're allowed to carry a knife as part of their faith. 0.98

00:21:10.000 So, Henry is sliced five times, including in the chest, he's slashed around the face, he tries to run off. 0.99

00:21:17.000 And he's scared of fence, and he's got injuries to the back of his legs as well.

00:21:20.000 And the police are called, not by Henry, not by witnesses, but they're called by the killer's brother, who claims that Henry has levied racist abuse towards Digwa.

00:21:33.000 He tried to throw his turban off his head and he called him hertzy racist names.

00:21:37.000 So the brother's involved on the scene.

00:21:40.000 The killer's still at the scene filming Henry dying on the floor.

00:21:43.000 And you can see this is police body cam footage on you now.

00:21:45.000 When the police turn up, Andrew.

00:21:48.000 They, instead of listening to Henry's pleas, who was dying on the floor, you can hear the blood gurgling around his mouth and lungs.

00:21:54.000 He's saying, Help, I've been stabbed.

00:21:56.000 I've been stabbed.

00:21:57.000 I can't breathe.

00:21:59.000 The police officer, because Digwe was there saying he's been racially abused, the police officer is more concerned with the fact that this guy may have been racially abused and called a name.

00:22:07.000 He wasn't, by the way.

00:22:08.000 It was found in court.

00:22:09.000 Henry wasn't racist.

00:22:10.000 It was a complete egregious lie.

00:22:12.000 And instead of listening to the dying last breaths of Henry on the floor, who's saying, I can't breathe.

00:22:17.000 I've been stabbed, the copper says to him, I don't think you have, mate.

00:22:21.000 And instead, he cuffs Henry in his dying moments.

00:22:23.000 You can see on the screen now his hand, pale white.

00:22:26.000 And Henry's last moments on earth were being read his rights by this police officer, saying, You're under arrest.

00:22:33.000 You don't have to say anything.

00:22:35.000 Anything you do say may be given in evidence.

00:22:36.000 And those are the last words that poor boy heard on the floor.

00:22:39.000 All because, Andrew, we have dangerous progressive race theory, which has cut British institutions, police forces, who are now more concerned about racism than the pleas of a dying boy on the floor.

00:22:53.000 Who's been slain in cold blood?

00:22:55.000 Ben, it really has been interesting to see this case unfold because it's been happening over several weeks.

00:23:01.000 The murder happened months ago, but then the trial begins and just the details start to trickle out.

00:23:06.000 And it just feels like at every step, you almost couldn't write a television episode that would hit as many beats as this does.

00:23:14.000 The way he's the killer immediately knows we need to create a story of racism and lie about this in order to try to win the police over.

00:23:23.000 They literally delayed calling the police so they could work out their story.

00:23:28.000 The fact that they're caught on camera, I believe, in the police car, basically talking to each other in Punjabi, saying, Yeah, I stabbed him, but we're going to lie about this.

00:23:37.000 And here's our story. 0.91

00:23:39.000 And then the fact that he's carrying a knife, a normal British person whose ancestors fought at the Battle of Hastings can't carry that knife, but this immigrant group can carry the knife that he used to kill them. 0.94

00:23:49.000 And that was part of his defense. 0.90

00:23:51.000 It really feels like this has unleashed a political movement in the UK that they're in dire need of.

00:23:56.000 Can you elaborate on that part?

00:23:58.000 Yeah, and by the way, this was a family affair.

00:24:00.000 The mother came down and tried to hide the murder weapon. 0.96

00:24:02.000 She tried to hide it.

00:24:03.000 The brother was on the phone to the police on 999 saying they'd been victim of racism.

00:24:07.000 The father then came down and manhandled Henry's body.

00:24:09.000 And just the way poor Henry was dragged across the gravel with blood filling his lungs, the police didn't bother to give first aid.

00:24:16.000 And what we've seen, this is a result of, as I said, dangerous progressive race theory.

00:24:19.000 Hampshire police, for example, the police constabulary involved in this case, they have a race action plan on their website which states verbatim the force will pursue offenders and deal with offenders.

00:24:29.000 That caused the most harm to ethnic minority communities.

00:24:33.000 So, not all communities, not white communities, ethnic minority communities specifically.

00:24:39.000 Essex police described white people as a non protective group in a similar action plan. 0.62

00:24:43.000 And what this has done, as I said, this is the beginning of the UK getting its mojo back.

00:24:48.000 Thousands of people protesting on the streets of Southampton last night, skirmishes with police, the anger is at tipping point.

00:24:54.000 And do you know what happened when George Floyd was killed in Minneapolis?

00:24:58.000 And by the way, in no way are these two comparable.

00:25:01.000 George Floyd, a drug addict who held a A gun up to a woman's abdomen in a robbery.

00:25:07.000 Starmer, Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister, everybody did who was cucked, took the knee.

00:25:11.000 They took the knee for George Floyd.

00:25:13.000 What does Keir Starmer do today?

00:25:14.000 He gets up in Parliament and he has a go at Nigel Farage, who described the incident as horrific and said that people should have cold rage in anger.

00:25:23.000 And Keir Starmer took the knee for George Floyd, nothing for Henry Novak.

00:25:27.000 And he stood up today, guys, saying he's focused, the Prime Minister, on what lessons need to be learned.

00:25:32.000 Well, let me tell you, I'm tired of hearing lessons.

00:25:35.000 I said this on X earlier, because They're not learning the lessons.

00:25:38.000 The government, time after time, is repeating the same mistakes.

00:25:42.000 We had multiple incidents in the UK of recent years where police, who in their bid not to be racist or hurt people emotionally, have allowed atrocities to take place Manchester Arena bombing, the Ariana Grande concert, where dozens of small girls were blown up by a suicide bomber.

00:26:01.000 The police officer who spotted that guy on that incident was too afraid to approach him with a dodgy looking backpack on his back because he thought he'd be called racist. 0.64

00:26:09.000 We've had the rape scandal, the industrial rape of working class girls in Britain for decades by Pakistani grooming gams. 0.64

00:26:15.000 Nobody got involved or stopped that because they're too scared of being called racist. 0.96

00:26:19.000 We had Valdo Calicane, who was a mentally ill guy, a black chap from Nottingham, who went onto the street and slaughtered three people.

00:26:26.000 Mental health services let him go and allowed him to commit those murders. 0.82

00:26:29.000 Again, two young people slain in cold blood because they're afraid of being called racist.

00:26:34.000 Axel Rudabucana, the monster who went and slaughtered those three girls at the Taylor Swift dance class two years ago.

00:26:41.000 He was allowed to carry on despite warning signs because people were too afraid of being called racist.

00:26:45.000 And of course, the illegal migrant boat invasion of Europe, tens of thousands of illegals from the third world allowed to flood in. 0.93

00:26:52.000 And you've got these lefty lunatics, the suicidal empathy commies, and that's what they are, allowing this to happen and promoting it because somehow it's racist if you want it to stop. 0.95

00:27:01.000 So that's where we are. 0.99

00:27:02.000 There's anger.

00:27:03.000 You can probably hear the anger in my voice.

00:27:05.000 We're sick of it, and something has to be done.

00:27:08.000 You know, something that Blake said, you know, it's like the Brits whose ancestors fought in the Battle of Hastings.

00:27:15.000 Have gotten short thrift in this.

00:27:18.000 They have been villainized.

00:27:20.000 They have been made the bad guys.

00:27:22.000 They are not a protected class when the whole purpose, the social compact between a government and its people is that its citizens should come first.

00:27:31.000 And the UK strikes me as a case in point, a case study of a country that has completely turned its back on the social compact, the most fundamental duty of a government.

00:27:42.000 It has abdicated that duty.

00:27:43.000 And are we going to see accountability here, Ben?

00:27:46.000 Are we going to see the police officers who failed to administer first aid held accountable?

00:27:51.000 Are we going to see the politicians that wrote these policies in the first place held accountability?

00:27:56.000 Held accountable?

00:27:57.000 Are we going to see Keir Starmer held accountable?

00:28:00.000 Well, Keir Starmer definitely will be held accountable at the ballot box in a couple of years.

00:28:03.000 I mean, Labour are losing in the polls, they're getting slaughtered.

00:28:06.000 But do you know what?

00:28:06.000 We've got this thing in Britain, Andrew, which is a shame, which Charlie pointed out last year, where these tragedies happen the Southport murders, the Manchester Arena bombing, the 7 7 bombing, London Bridge attacks.

00:28:17.000 I was actually at London Bridge.

00:28:18.000 Do you know what we do?

00:28:20.000 And I don't know if this is some sort of inherent British trait where we're just trying to be nice and polite.

00:28:23.000 We mutter under our breaths, we get angry for a few weeks, and then we carry on.

00:28:27.000 And then people like Keir Starmer say, Well, there's lessons to be learned.

00:28:30.000 Or after the Ariana Grande suicide bombing some years ago in Manchester, the theme was, oh, don't look back in anger.

00:28:38.000 Don't look back in anger.

00:28:39.000 Well, let me tell you, it was about time we did look back in anger and we started doing something about it.

00:28:42.000 The two police officers involved, the one who said, I don't think you have, mate, they're being investigated, but they need to be prosecuted.

00:28:48.000 Same with the family who tried covering it up.

00:28:50.000 Yeah.

00:28:51.000 And, you know, there was somebody on X that was like, well, we shouldn't politicize this.

00:28:54.000 And Nigel Farage shouldn't politicize this.

00:28:57.000 You're completely wrong, actually.

00:28:59.000 This must be politicized because it was politics that killed that young man.

00:29:03.000 It was politics that wrote the policies that allowed him to be handcuffed while his murderer was given every benefit of the doubt.

00:29:12.000 It was politics that led to this.

00:29:14.000 So, well, we want to dive into the protests which have erupted here.

00:29:17.000 So, Britain, for Americans who don't understand, Britain has a position the Home Secretary, kind of the chief cop, chief immigration enforcer, kind of a combination of DHS and Attorney General.

00:29:27.000 I'm sure she's a.

00:29:28.000 Her name, this is a Labour government, Shabana Mahmood.

00:29:31.000 So, person handling.

00:29:32.000 Isn't that the chief immigration person?

00:29:34.000 A person handling immigration enforcement in the case named Shabana Mahmood. 1.00

00:29:37.000 She also handles protests like this one.

00:29:40.000 So, right now, I want to flag she is threatening maximal legal crackdown on the people protesting over Novak's death in the Southampton area.

00:29:51.000 And I just dug into her history and a couple things.

00:29:53.000 First of all, last fall, she announced new policies that I believe have been implemented to allow police to put conditions and restrictions on repeat protests.

00:30:04.000 So, this is not violent protests, this is not instruction, it's just Protesting repeatedly because she says it intimidates or spreads fear among communities.

00:30:14.000 I'm sure that will be applied equally in this country.

00:30:16.000 And in 2020, as a member of parliament, she sent a letter after George Floyd's death demanding that the British government ban exports of riot gear that could be used by law enforcement so that it could not be used to contain riots in the United States over George Floyd.

00:30:34.000 So that's Britain's Home Secretary right now.

00:30:37.000 And the comparison I've heard, Ben, and you can respond to this.

00:30:42.000 It feels like the British government and British police view themselves as an occupying foreign power handling an insurrection by a restive native population, which is British people.

00:30:55.000 Well, there's a long running conversation in the UK now, which has been considered far right for a couple of years, about whether Shabana Mahmood is British, although she's got some controversy in my book, because although she's deemed as the most right wing minister in the Labour Party in the government right now, she's apparently trying to crack down on illegal migration and so on.

00:31:15.000 She's appearing to do her part.

00:31:17.000 She's trying to broker deals with France and so on.

00:31:20.000 I continually make the point that Shabana Mahmoud, some years ago, was on the beaches of Lesvos, the Greek island in Eastern Europe, where the illegal migration wave of Europe was starting.

00:31:33.000 So, all these people would come through Turkey, through Africa, they'd go through Lesvos.

00:31:37.000 She was pictured on the beaches of Lesvos, handing out life jackets to illegal migrants and so on. 0.99

00:31:41.000 So, I just don't see how now you can change your ideological and even spiritual stance to such a point where, on one minute, you're welcoming thousands of migrants through Europe. 0.70

00:31:51.000 And the next minute, you're in the UK government prancing around trying to convince the British public that you are serious about stopping illegal migration. 0.52

00:32:00.000 The stats speak for themselves.

00:32:01.000 Since Labour took power, we've had 70,000 illegal migrants flooding through the UK's southern border.

00:32:07.000 The government will keep saying, We're doing our best.

00:32:09.000 We've got deportation deals.

00:32:10.000 We've deported so many people. 0.93

00:32:12.000 The only people they're deporting are Vietnamese nail bar workers who no one really cares about because it's not the Vietnamese nail bar workers who are going out causing jihad and saying that they want to bring down.

00:32:23.000 The West and the United Kingdom. 0.74

00:32:24.000 So I've had my concerns about Shabana Mahmood for some time, even just on the very basics politically, that I don't know how you can change your ideology that quickly at the click of a finger. 0.52

00:32:34.000 I don't trust her to sort out the UK's migration problem or indeed protect the future of the UK's sovereignty and culture and identity, which is what's under attack here, is an attack on British heritage.

00:32:46.000 Britain in 50 years will not look anything like it did when I was a small boy. 0.67

00:32:50.000 It's already changed exponentially in just 20 years.

00:32:52.000 It will look nothing like it did.

00:32:54.000 In a couple of decades, if we carry on the way we are.

00:32:57.000 And I do not trust anybody in this Labour government right now.

00:32:59.000 They are socialists.

00:33:00.000 They are, some of them, commies.

00:33:03.000 They cannot be trusted to secure the future of our nation.

00:33:06.000 Ben, let's look ahead, right?

00:33:07.000 Because obviously, I agree with you. 0.90

00:33:09.000 Labour is a disaster.

00:33:10.000 They don't care about British heritage. 0.96

00:33:12.000 They'll give you lip service.

00:33:13.000 They'll say, let's learn some lessons here.

00:33:15.000 But everything's going to continue on the way it's been continuing on, basically.

00:33:19.000 Let's be honest.

00:33:21.000 We've got reform.

00:33:22.000 You've got some other conservative.

00:33:24.000 You know, parties that are kind of around the fray.

00:33:27.000 How is it shaping up?

00:33:29.000 And who's actually do you trust to deal with this?

00:33:33.000 We're friends with Nigel.

00:33:34.000 We like Nigel.

00:33:35.000 I know he's reform is doing really, really great in the polls.

00:33:39.000 But who's actually got the backbone to do some deportation, some remigration? 1.00

00:33:46.000 Because you got these Pakistani rape gangs. 1.00

00:33:48.000 These people need to go. 1.00

00:33:49.000 Everybody with a brain knows this.

00:33:51.000 I'm just, does the UK have that kind of spunk, that mojo?

00:33:54.000 Well, I've been saying for a couple of weeks now, whoever takes the reins of power in a couple of years at the general election, they'll need to look at what's happened in the US with regards to mass deportations, how ICE have handled it, what problems the White House have had, i.e., the protests, the resistance.

00:34:09.000 Reform UK absolutely wiping the polls.

00:34:11.000 They've been leading every poll for the past year and a half.

00:34:13.000 They just won the local elections, which are kind of like our midterms in the UK.

00:34:16.000 They slaughtered everybody politically.

00:34:19.000 So, yeah, as it stands now, Nigel Farage reform, they'll be taking government unless anything big changes.

00:34:24.000 Restore Britain, you've got Rupert Lowe, who's a former friend and MP of Nigel Farage.

00:34:29.000 Excuse me.

00:34:30.000 He's a bit more right wing than Farage is expected to be.

00:34:33.000 But they have said Reform UK, they'll start a, as far as I remember, a UK version of ICE for mass deportation, certainly at the very least of illegal migrants.

00:34:42.000 And then the other conversation is, as you mentioned, Andrew, the Pakistani rape gangs.

00:34:45.000 Everybody in those communities who knew what was going on, whether they were directly involved in abusing white working class English girls or not, but they knew what was going on and they said nothing, there's an argument that even though they are British nationals or maybe dual nationals, they need to go as well.

00:35:00.000 That's where maybe it gets a little bit murky.

00:35:02.000 Have we got the spunk?

00:35:04.000 I'll be completely honest with you.

00:35:05.000 No, I'm sorry.

00:35:07.000 I don't think we have got the spunk.

00:35:09.000 Something big needs to happen.

00:35:10.000 Millions upon millions need to go.

00:35:12.000 And I don't think people are prepared for it because, as you see in the United States, you get into the weeds of it, you start doing what needs to be done, and people bottle it.

00:35:20.000 They get scared.

00:35:21.000 Yeah, we're at about 3,000 to 3,500 arrests a day in the United States, getting them the heck out.

00:35:27.000 Ben Leo, GB News.

00:35:28.000 Thank you, sir.

00:35:29.000 Thank you.

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00:36:57.000 I told you we're going to talk a little Maha today.

00:37:00.000 And, you know, I have to bring this up because it's something that I've been thinking about for a long time.

00:37:07.000 And that is Ozempic.

00:37:09.000 Okay.

00:37:10.000 Ozempic.

00:37:11.000 I know people that have been on Ozempic.

00:37:13.000 I've known a lot of politicians that have.

00:37:17.000 I can just tell by eyesight a lot of people have been on it.

00:37:19.000 Yes.

00:37:19.000 Okay.

00:37:20.000 So as of today, over 4,400 lawsuits have been filed in the U.S. alone.

00:37:28.000 Regarding what are known as GLP 1 drugs like Ozempic, I don't even know how to say these other ones, Wagovi, Manjaro, I think that's how they're pronounced.

00:37:38.000 As GLP 1 use moves from a niche treatment to a mainstream phenomenon, that number is going to explode.

00:37:46.000 So, what are these lawsuits about?

00:37:48.000 Well, they're citing a wide variety of health concerns, ranging from, I kid you not, sudden vision loss, organ failure, and even death.

00:38:00.000 And I'm just.

00:38:01.000 Those are some of the worst side effects.

00:38:03.000 Those are really bad side effects.

00:38:04.000 There are currently 31 million Americans taking GOP 1 medication.

00:38:09.000 31 million?

00:38:10.000 Yes.

00:38:11.000 What, 9% of America?

00:38:13.000 Yeah.

00:38:13.000 I don't know what the.

00:38:15.000 You do the math.

00:38:16.000 Check this out, though.

00:38:17.000 And you guys will have noticed what is now being referred to as Ozempic Face.

00:38:22.000 Show the graphic.

00:38:24.000 Show the graphic, Ozempic Face. 0.94

00:38:26.000 There it is. 0.52

00:38:27.000 Go full screen.

00:38:28.000 We need to see the full glory of Ozempic Face.

00:38:31.000 Do we know these people have it? 0.51

00:38:32.000 Do we know they're on it?

00:38:33.000 I think so.

00:38:34.000 Yeah.

00:38:34.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:38:35.000 Allegedly, maybe they're just really big gym rats, but that's essentially what it looks like.

00:38:40.000 Even if they're not on Ozempic themselves, that's what it looks like. 0.71

00:38:45.000 Okay.

00:38:45.000 So, here to help us discuss this issue that is like exploding onto the American consciousness is senior health advisor from Brightcore.

00:38:53.000 That's Ellie Hirsch.

00:38:55.000 Welcome to the show, Ellie.

00:38:57.000 Thank you.

00:38:57.000 Thanks for having me.

00:38:58.000 So, what causes this and how bad are the health side effects of GLP 1s?

00:39:05.000 Well, so Ozempic face is caused by that rapid, significant weight loss from the GLP medications, like you said, like Ozempic and Wagovi.

00:39:14.000 And it causes the fat to vanish so quickly from the face.

00:39:19.000 And so this sudden depletion, it leaves the skin with a reduced elasticity.

00:39:24.000 And then you get the sagging and the hollow cheeks and the sunken eyes, and your wrinkles are intensified because what happens is the skin cannot shrink as fast as the fat disappears.

00:39:35.000 Honestly, Ozempic face is probably the least of your worries if you're taking one of these drugs.

00:39:41.000 Like you said, it's not only causing vision loss and stomach paralysis, complete organ failure, but now it's being linked to mood and psychological disorders, anxiety, depression, also hair loss, especially in women, pancreatic inflammation, and something called Ozempic breath.

00:40:01.000 So I don't know if you've heard of that, but it's a term that they're using to describe this foul smelling breath, kind of like a metallic taste.

00:40:08.000 Fishy smelling burps, and you know, it's increasingly being reported.

00:40:13.000 These are not attractive side effects, yeah.

00:40:16.000 No, yeah, I mean, uh, bad breath is basically like the chief, I think, turnoff in just normal human interaction.

00:40:24.000 But we're like, okay, so bad breath's one thing, but the anxiety, depression that is probably the one thing our country needs, yeah, uh, like another hole in the head.

00:40:32.000 Um, pancreatic inflammation, but like the we're having stomach paralysis, okay?

00:40:37.000 So, explain what.

00:40:39.000 Like GLP 1s even do, right?

00:40:41.000 There's like, I mean, basically, it is a paralysis of the stomach.

00:40:45.000 That's how it works, correct?

00:40:46.000 Or the bowels?

00:40:48.000 Yeah.

00:40:48.000 So, what happens is the GLP 1 drugs slow down your metabolism and your whole digestive process.

00:40:56.000 So, that's why stomach paralysis is so common because sometimes it slows your digestion so much it stops working completely.

00:41:04.000 And then, essentially, it forces you to go on a starvation diet, leading to malnutrition.

00:41:09.000 Which, by the way, plays a big part in that depression.

00:41:12.000 So, humans are not meant to survive off five meals a year, right?

00:41:16.000 This form of weight loss causes you to lose more muscle than fat.

00:41:19.000 I don't know if you ever heard of skinny fat, but that's kind of where that comes from.

00:41:23.000 This is what I've been thinking about with this for a long time.

00:41:25.000 It's like I worry about your muscle, your heart is a muscle, right?

00:41:29.000 A lot of muscles in your organs, and it's causing you to lose muscle at some point.

00:41:34.000 And you mentioned osteoporosis, I've seen is a big deal.

00:41:38.000 Explain, give me a case study of somebody that is dealing with severe health issues.

00:41:44.000 Side effects from GLP 1s.

00:41:45.000 Yeah.

00:41:46.000 So you mentioned Ozempic bones.

00:41:48.000 I don't know if you've ever seen what that actually looks like, but it is, I mean, scroll stopping.

00:41:55.000 Okay.

00:41:56.000 Recently, a three year old woman, she actually went viral because she was diagnosed with advanced osteoporosis only after using Ozempic for one year, right?

00:42:05.000 We know that, you know, losing weight naturally is not easy, but diet, exercise.

00:42:11.000 And something a lot of people don't know is that there was actually a study done that showed that people who are obese. are missing a couple of crucial probiotics within their gut that people within a healthy weight range possess.

00:42:24.000 And when you have these specific strains in your gut, it can make all the difference between being obese or being skinny.

00:42:32.000 The other thing I want to point out is just because you have a big, oh, there it is.

00:42:35.000 Yes. 0.99

00:42:36.000 So there is, that's the Ozempic bone. 0.98

00:42:38.000 I mean, look at the difference between the left and the right. 0.91

00:42:42.000 That is really scary, right?

00:42:44.000 Really, really scary.

00:42:46.000 So that's what's happening to people.

00:42:48.000 That's just one example.

00:42:50.000 People are dying.

00:42:51.000 And all they wanted to do was lose weight, right?

00:42:54.000 So.

00:42:55.000 Oh, go ahead.

00:42:56.000 Go ahead, Ellie.

00:42:57.000 No, it's okay. 0.99

00:42:57.000 I was saying, you know, we can joke about Ozempic face and Ozempic breath and other things that it causes. 0.99

00:43:02.000 But when it comes to your health, these are serious, serious issues. 1.00

00:43:06.000 Yeah, I mean, I've just always thought like GLP 1s were like this too good to be true thing. 1.00

00:43:12.000 And now we're starting to find out.

00:43:13.000 And I always said it's just a matter of time till we find out what the side effects are.

00:43:18.000 And so, what's your recommendation for people that are having some of these side effects or have tried GLP 1s and that are no longer on them, but they're worried about the health impacts that perhaps they experienced?

00:43:31.000 So, first of all, I'd recommend.

00:43:33.000 Going off of them, but obviously, work with your doctor and make sure you're doing it the right way.

00:43:37.000 But you don't have to go on these GLP 1s at all, right?

00:43:40.000 So, kimchi, okay, has those specific probiotic strains that I was just talking about.

00:43:46.000 And tons of studies out there are showing how effective eating kimchi really is.

00:43:52.000 We know it's the king of fermented food, we know it has over 900 strains of beneficial bacteria.

00:43:58.000 If you look at sauerkraut, for example, only 28 strains, right?

00:44:02.000 It's a staple in the Korean diet.

00:44:04.000 They live six years longer, they have beautiful skin.

00:44:08.000 We know it reduces body fat by 31.8%.

00:44:13.000 There was a study about a significant reduction of abdominal fat, especially in women, more so in men.

00:44:22.000 And obesity is not just a sign of our health, but it's really the totality of it.

00:44:27.000 And I'm sure you've heard about the gut microbiome.

00:44:30.000 It's a hot topic right now because it plays a huge part in addressing the root cause of all of our health problems.

00:44:38.000 Well, Ellie, I brought that up with you before.

00:44:40.000 That was that article out of the Atlantic where it was like, why could your dad in the 80s eat a Big Mac and not get fat and you can't?

00:44:48.000 And it's literally the gut, it's the health of your gut.

00:44:53.000 So I'm a big believer in this stuff.

00:44:55.000 I want our audience to be healthy.

00:44:57.000 I want our audience to be understanding how to be in charge of their own health.

00:45:01.000 And honestly, modern food has a lot of problems.

00:45:04.000 You can eat healthy, it's very expensive though.

00:45:07.000 And by the way, when you're traveling, we travel a lot for this job.

00:45:10.000 I cannot control my diet when I'm on the road.

00:45:12.000 So, everybody's got this challenge in America to deal with.

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00:45:48.000 Ellie, final 20 seconds to you.

00:45:51.000 Sure.

00:45:52.000 So, the reason why we created kimchi one, you know, kimchi is not easy to eat, right?

00:45:57.000 It has a weird flavor, weird taste.

00:45:59.000 So, that's why the convenient capsules we make are easy for daily use.

00:46:03.000 You know, there's virtually no sodium, unlike store bought kimchi.

00:46:07.000 We use a cold processed drying method.

00:46:09.000 So, it retains all the fiber and nutrition of actual fermented kimchi.

00:46:13.000 100% made in the USA, all natural, soy free.

00:46:16.000 And I do want to point out real quick the success stories that we're hearing from people.

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00:46:26.000 Elliot, great to see you again.

00:46:28.000 We'll talk to you soon.

00:46:28.000 Thank you.

00:46:29.000 Sounds good.

00:46:33.000 We've got a special guest in studio, and that is Dr. Joe Boot.

00:46:37.000 He's British.

00:46:38.000 We've got two Brits on the show in one day. 0.99

00:46:40.000 I don't know if I think that's a good question.

00:46:42.000 We've got to be careful with that.

00:46:43.000 We've seen what's happening with Britain.

00:46:44.000 Yeah, I think that's against our rules here.

00:46:47.000 But we wanted to have you on, and because you are going to be part of our Freedom Night, which is a tradition that Charlie himself started.

00:46:55.000 Now, Pastor Lucas Miles, who runs TPUSA Faith, has taken it over and he's done an amazing job.

00:47:00.000 And you guys are going to be meeting tonight, having a conversation here in Phoenix.

00:47:04.000 So, welcome to Phoenix.

00:47:05.000 Thank you.

00:47:05.000 It's great to be here.

00:47:06.000 It's warm.

00:47:07.000 It is warm.

00:47:08.000 Yeah.

00:47:08.000 You know, it's interesting.

00:47:09.000 It was kind of a normal temperature up until three days ago.

00:47:14.000 I hear you. 0.96

00:47:14.000 And I'm told that now begins the suck. 0.96

00:47:18.000 Now begins the hot months of the summer, which I actually really love.

00:47:23.000 It's great pool weather if you're into it.

00:47:24.000 But a lot of people end up leaving town for cooler climbs.

00:47:29.000 But tell us, what are you going to talk about tonight?

00:47:31.000 Well, I think to some degree that will be up to Lucas directing the conversation.

00:47:35.000 What questions will Lucas ask you?

00:47:36.000 But I think we'll be talking a bit about what is it that really lies at the root of nationhood.

00:47:45.000 And, you know, this whole tension we're in right now, I think, both in Europe, in Britain, and in the United States around what is it that constitutes a nation?

00:47:55.000 Is there a religious root to nationhood?

00:47:57.000 Is it purely an ethnic or.

00:48:01.000 Historical route?

00:48:02.000 Is it merely propositional?

00:48:05.000 This is a big conversation that's going on.

00:48:07.000 What really makes Britain or America or what constitutes, what lies at the foundation of our unity?

00:48:14.000 Well, what do you believe lies at the foundation?

00:48:17.000 Well, I think biblically, from a Christian standpoint, I'm a Christian apologist, so I actually think that it's God's covenant that lies at the foundation of nationhood.

00:48:25.000 If you want to look at what a nation is, I think the best example is going to scripture and actually asking, well, when God constituted a nation, how did he do it?

00:48:34.000 Yeah, well, so how did he do it?

00:48:36.000 Well, he called out a people out of Egypt, and the scripture says they left a mixed multitude.

00:48:44.000 The Hebrews left Egypt a mixed multitude.

00:48:47.000 In fact, Joseph was married to an Egyptian.

00:48:51.000 So, two tribes of Israel, Ephraim and Manasseh, were half African, not Hebrew.

00:48:57.000 And of course, the people pick up along the way various famous Gentiles like Rahab and so on, who end up in the genealogy of Christ.

00:49:04.000 So, what really constituted Israel as a people was.

00:49:07.000 Faith and covenant, not skin tone or even ethnic background.

00:49:13.000 I mean, even Abraham had eight sons, but only one was the child of promise.

00:49:17.000 So, what constituted them was their religious worldview and their agreement with God, their covenant with God, their oath, in a sense.

00:49:24.000 And that's what lies at the root of the British nation, the coronation oath, 1688, and of course the presidential oath of office, which used to be taken on an open Bible to the covenant in Deuteronomy 27 28.

00:49:38.000 Well, it kind of reminds me of that famous line from Ruth, right?

00:49:41.000 Where Ruth says, you know, do not urge me to leave you or to return from following you, for where you go, I will go.

00:49:49.000 And where you lodge, I will lodge.

00:49:51.000 Your people shall be my people and your God, my God.

00:49:54.000 And that kind of brings up this idea of assimilation to me, right?

00:49:57.000 You see this, we were just talking in hour one about this Henry Novak story that's so tragic.

00:50:03.000 You know, a British lad, as you guys say, 18 years old, stabbed multiple times.

00:50:08.000 The police cuff him.

00:50:10.000 Not his murderer.

00:50:12.000 And now there's a lot of tension going on because I think a lot of Brits feel like they've had enough of feeling like second class citizens in their own country.

00:50:20.000 So you guys got a huge assimilation issue just like we have in the United States now, and it's getting bigger and larger and probably more problematic.

00:50:29.000 So what do you say as a Christian, as an apologist?

00:50:32.000 Your book, A Mission of God, by the way, the subtitle I think is really apt A Manifesto of Hope for Society. 0.99

00:50:40.000 What's your message of hope for the British society that's going through this ethnic?

00:50:45.000 Racial strife right now.

00:50:46.000 Well, our problem is that we've abandoned the foundation of our nationhood, which was Christian commitment.

00:50:52.000 It was there, as you know, in the UK, there's a soft establishment. 0.60

00:50:57.000 The coronation oath commits the head of state to the advancement of the law and gospel of Christ.

00:51:03.000 But we've, the church itself, not just the Church of England, but the churches across the board, have essentially abandoned the idea of a Christian nation.

00:51:13.000 Well, by the way, the EU, when it was chartered, I believe, there was a wrestle over whether or not to say Christianity or Christendom, and they opted out.

00:51:22.000 Yeah.

00:51:23.000 They left it out of the EU charter, which to me is just.

00:51:27.000 Yeah.

00:51:27.000 Says it all.

00:51:28.000 It does say it all. 0.76

00:51:29.000 And that's our problem with assimilation.

00:51:31.000 You see, a culture that is confident and committed and has a strong faith is able to assimilate small numbers of people gradually. 0.95

00:51:40.000 Small.

00:51:40.000 Yeah.

00:51:41.000 And this is how Israel did it, of course. 0.99

00:51:42.000 Small numbers. 0.99

00:51:43.000 It was very small.

00:51:44.000 And people had to, if you look at what God's law has to say about all of this, they had to participate in the covenantal celebrations.

00:51:51.000 There was a long process to assimilation into the community.

00:51:56.000 didn't just happen overnight, there were certain requirements that had to be met.

00:52:00.000 We've abandoned all of that. 0.97

00:52:01.000 It's not just illegal migration that's destroying the fabric of the country, it's the mass, yeah, it's the mass legal migration from cultures that do not share our fundamental religious commitment. 0.99

00:52:13.000 Obviously, we know it's not simply a case of skin color. 0.96

00:52:16.000 Look at the conflict between the democrats and the republicans, it's not a conflict over skin color.

00:52:20.000 And me and Pete Buttigieg don't share much in common, even though we share a skin exactly.

00:52:24.000 Yeah, well, I'm a little darker than him, actually.

00:52:26.000 But it's the religious root, it's the worldview issue, and the multicultural.

00:52:30.000 Have not understood that you cannot have more than one God and more than one law governing a society.

00:52:34.000 Amen.

00:52:35.000 Man.

00:52:36.000 Okay, so Ben was talking about how maybe the UK is going to get its mojo back.

00:52:40.000 He actually wasn't that optimistic.

00:52:43.000 Well, he's not optimistic about deportations, which I genuinely think the UK has been invaded.

00:52:49.000 America has been invaded.

00:52:51.000 We're arresting upwards of 3,500 illegals every day, which is a big number when you tallied all together. 0.87

00:53:00.000 Do you think.

00:53:02.000 I mean, you're not a policy wonk.

00:53:04.000 I don't want to ask you about necessarily that.

00:53:06.000 But the point is, you know, what must be done to correct the problem?

00:53:13.000 Well, it's a bottom up and a top down.

00:53:15.000 And we've got, it's almost like the perfect storm of difficulties.

00:53:20.000 So we've got a culture that's been abandoning the faith.

00:53:23.000 We've got families collapsing and in free fall.

00:53:26.000 We've got a demographic crisis, or what we would call a demographic winter.

00:53:29.000 We don't have enough children, we're not having babies.

00:53:32.000 Because we've destroyed the family.

00:53:34.000 We've got a coalition.

00:53:35.000 Affordability issues as well. 0.87

00:53:36.000 And we've got a coalition of the Marxist left and the Islamists who have come together in this hostility to our culture and civilization. 0.80

00:53:46.000 So there needs to be grassroots renewal of the family fundamentally, which requires religious worldview renovation in a sense. 0.54

00:53:56.000 And at the same time, the surface level, and it has to be done, we've got, as you know, these rape gangs running that have been in major. 0.65

00:54:04.000 We've got 10 mayors of major cities who are Muslim in the UK.

00:54:08.000 So, you know, there's this kind of suicidal empathy.

00:54:10.000 Zora Momdani.

00:54:11.000 So, yeah.

00:54:13.000 So, if you want to hear more from Dr. Joe Boot, I mean, we could talk for an hour.

00:54:17.000 It's already apparent to me.

00:54:18.000 Founder and president, the Ezra Institute and EzraInstitute.com if you want to check out his stuff.

00:54:24.000 And tonight at Freedom Night in America with Pastor Lucas Miles, we'll be streaming that everywhere.

00:54:31.000 Please, guys, check this out.

00:54:32.000 This is going to be a really fantastic conversation I'm going to be watching.

00:54:36.000 God bless you, Dr. Joe Boot.

00:54:38.000 And that's the second Britt.

00:54:39.000 It's good.

00:54:39.000 It's against our rules.

00:54:40.000 It's looking up.

00:54:41.000 The show's improving.

00:54:43.000 Probably.

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00:56:13.000 I want to bring in Orrin McIntyre.

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00:56:24.000 Orrin, welcome back to the show.

00:56:25.000 It's good to have you.

00:56:26.000 Thanks for having me, guys.

00:56:27.000 So, there are so many ways we could directions we could go with you, Orrin, because you do think about the big issues of the day.

00:56:34.000 And I guess, like, if I had to sum it all up, we had these primaries last night.

00:56:41.000 We had a great result in Iowa, a turning point action endorsed guy we had at the top of the show, Zach Lane, who's talking about affordability.

00:56:50.000 He's talking about Maha and MAGA, like, Keeping it together.

00:56:53.000 He's talking about homes for Iowa kids that have been forced to leave in generations past.

00:56:59.000 He's talking about cancer rates.

00:57:01.000 And then we see what's happening in New Jersey, where we have this basic militant force that's fighting us at every turn to get basic enforcement of immigration laws back on the table.

00:57:12.000 You have Henry Novak in the UK.

00:57:15.000 All of these forces, they feel like civilizational defining forces that are clashing and colliding all the time.

00:57:22.000 And the question I sort of have right now.

00:57:24.000 Is do we have the coalition that can save the West?

00:57:28.000 And if we don't, why don't we?

00:57:31.000 Because the forces arrayed against us are so vast and so demonic that we need to stick together.

00:57:39.000 So it's a big question.

00:57:41.000 I'm sorry to throw it at you like that, Oren.

00:57:43.000 But do we have what it takes to fight back?

00:57:46.000 And if we don't, what's standing in our way and how do we get there?

00:57:48.000 I think what is ultimately standing in our way is the definition of the civilization that we want, what we're actually fighting for.

00:57:55.000 I think before we knew that we didn't want what the left was offering. 0.91

00:57:59.000 We don't want men and women's sports.

00:58:01.000 We don't want people mutilating children. 0.98

00:58:03.000 We don't want these different degenerate forces forced down on us. 1.00

00:58:07.000 We don't want the open borders, the immigration that has been crushing our nation. 1.00

00:58:12.000 But we didn't really have an understanding of where we wanted the country to go. 0.99

00:58:17.000 I think a lot of people looked at Trump as a general attack on a system that was not doing its job.

00:58:22.000 And when we look at what's happening in the UK and what's happening here, We can recognize a system that has failed its population entirely and doesn't seem very worried about that.

00:58:33.000 So we recognize Trump as that actor that wants to smash through those barriers and make America great again, restore it to something we know that we've lost.

00:58:42.000 The problem is, I think we have a difficulty in knowing exactly what we lost because of all the different types of propaganda and discussions and everything else that has happened around American identity.

00:58:52.000 What makes America?

00:58:53.000 Is it just some set of ideas?

00:58:54.000 Is it just a geographic boundary?

00:58:56.000 Is it an economic system?

00:58:57.000 Is it heritage?

00:58:58.000 Is it faith?

00:58:59.000 Is it tradition?

00:59:00.000 Is it all of these things to some extent?

00:59:03.000 And because we haven't done very much work on that, and I think our enemies have done a great job at dismantling that, we're in this constant situation where we're pushing back against them, but we're also kind of internally struggling to figure out where we're going.

00:59:16.000 I think that's really smart.

00:59:18.000 And, you know, you think about Trump.

00:59:20.000 I like to describe Trump as like this guy that came on the scene.

00:59:23.000 Remember when he came down the golden escalator?

00:59:25.000 What was he like, 68, 69, something like that?

00:59:27.000 He was young enough to still have the vitality to fight the fight.

00:59:32.000 And he was old enough to remember an America that was significantly better.

00:59:36.000 It was significantly more unified, significantly stronger in basically every conceivable way.

00:59:43.000 You know, but he's also reverting.

00:59:46.000 A greatness of a country that no longer exists.

00:59:48.000 Demographically, we are wildly different.

00:59:51.000 From a religious standpoint, we're wildly different.

00:59:54.000 From a debt standpoint, we're wildly different.

00:59:57.000 The geopolitical order is in a different place.

01:00:00.000 So it's sort of how do you translate that memory of what we were?

01:00:05.000 You think about 1976, the bicentennial.

01:00:07.000 How do you translate that to the 250?

01:00:10.000 And that is a really interesting conundrum, a question.

01:00:13.000 And so I guess, like, you know, what do we, where, if you had to define it, Orrin, where are we going?

01:00:19.000 Where should we?

01:00:20.000 Be going.

01:00:21.000 What is the North Star?

01:00:22.000 I think the trick is remembering that all traditions have to be living traditions.

01:00:27.000 There's a mistake that conservatives make where they want to freeze the past in place and return to that spot, be it the 1950s or the 1990s or whatever past moment they thought America was at its apex.

01:00:39.000 I'm guilty of both of those.

01:00:41.000 I've seen both of those decades.

01:00:44.000 It's very normal.

01:00:45.000 And there are great things to notice about those decades.

01:00:48.000 But the trick is a tradition is lived, it is continuing forward.

01:00:53.000 And so you have to integrate what America was with what America is and what it will be.

01:00:59.000 And so we can recognize greatness in the 1950s or the 1990s, but also recognize that America is going somewhere.

01:01:06.000 And that if we want to go the correct direction, we have to steward that legacy.

01:01:10.000 We have to take the best of the past, but we also need to address the issues of the present.

01:01:15.000 So, in ways that we can look back, we can see that in the 1950s, perhaps, there was a stronger family culture, there was a stronger desire for people to have families, to grow families.

01:01:26.000 What creates that?

01:01:28.000 In many ways, the prosperity after World War II.

01:01:31.000 So, when we talk about that affordability, when we talk about that, we can't just say, oh, well, we want the 1950s back.

01:01:37.000 We have to recognize what made the 1950s possible manufacturing booms, the ability of the average man to get a job and care for a family on one income.

01:01:47.000 These are things that the GOP would never have touched a decade or two ago.

01:01:51.000 And now they're more and more at the center of discussions.

01:01:54.000 I think that's a good start in getting us back on the track of recognizing how to weave the past into our future.

01:02:00.000 Well, so now, Aaron, we've got.

01:02:02.000 Going the other direction, stuff the party used to touch but is now apparently not touchable.

01:02:08.000 So, you've been tweeting quite a bit.

01:02:10.000 We're in the month of pride, as we are every year in June, and there's been a lot going on.

01:02:15.000 And yesterday, Representative Andy Ogles, who's been a friend of this program, he had a tweet where he said very bluntly, Homosexuality has no place in America.

01:02:26.000 Happy Nuclear Family Month.

01:02:29.000 But then, a few hours later, the tweet was deleted.

01:02:33.000 He made a post saying, Basically, just saying it was a subordinate who made this tweet, definitely not me. 1.00

01:02:39.000 He's been reprimanded and it was stupid. 0.99

01:02:42.000 And some other Republicans were even coming out and kind of dunking on him and saying, Oh, I'm libertarian. 1.00

01:02:47.000 I actually, you know, we've always had this in America and it totally has a place in America.

01:02:53.000 And your tweet is great.

01:02:55.000 Yeah, your response where you just say, Where's the employee?

01:02:57.000 Can we vote for that guy?

01:02:59.000 But more generally, can you unpack, first of all, how should we approach this Pride Month issue and LGBT stuff?

01:03:07.000 LGBT stuff generally.

01:03:08.000 And is this a worrisome sign that I think we might be having Republicans forget the lesson?

01:03:13.000 Of Trump, which is kind of don't apologize for being based, basically.

01:03:17.000 This is true. 0.58

01:03:18.000 However, of course, Donald Trump was the guy who carried the gay pride flag onto the stage, you know, so Trump is in some ways a first mover in this problem.

01:03:27.000 But yeah, ultimately, I think that a lot of Republicans are still operating in this idea that we've kind of declared this neutral space when it comes to discussing any form of sexual morality or family formation or any of these things. 0.83

01:03:39.000 We know we don't want men and women's sports, but generally we should just leave.

01:03:43.000 People alone. 0.93

01:03:44.000 The truth is that, as you say, the Republican Party used to be much better on this because it actually directly contradicts the Christian religion, which we should all be upholding. 0.96

01:03:53.000 And so we shouldn't be scared to say that this is not a good lifestyle. 0.89

01:03:56.000 Now, that doesn't mean I have to run around and arrest everybody who ends up dating another man or something.

01:04:03.000 But ultimately, this should not be encouraged and that should be something that's normalized.

01:04:07.000 It's not healthy.

01:04:08.000 It's not good for people.

01:04:09.000 It is also just morally incorrect.

01:04:12.000 And so these should be things that we are allowed to push back against.

01:04:15.000 We shouldn't be ashamed against.

01:04:16.000 And it's very disappointing to see a representative that otherwise has had a pretty promising career, promising future, lots of good rhetoric back away on something like this because it shows weakness.

01:04:26.000 When you really look at what happened, there was a point at which it did seem like homosexuality was being normalized on the right.

01:04:34.000 But that has fallen off.

01:04:35.000 We are seeing that more and more Republicans, conservatives, and even the newer generation are looking at homosexuality and saying, maybe we should not have gone this far with the acceptance of this.

01:04:46.000 So I think it's a bad read of the direction that the base is going and even the general.

01:04:50.000 Population is going.

01:04:51.000 There are going to be more and more gender radicals, but I think there are more and more people recognizing that that came from somewhere and it was the acceptance of the initial homosexual push.

01:05:00.000 Yeah, and one note here on Andy Ogles he is super based, he's really good on immigration. 0.87

01:05:06.000 He's the only member of Congress I've ever heard use the word libtard, and he said it on this show. 0.87

01:05:12.000 Yeah, and he wants an immigration moratorium.

01:05:14.000 He wants to roll back the hard seller. 0.96

01:05:16.000 Like, he's a good.

01:05:18.000 I think why they deleted it, and this is what I want to say, is because he said it has no place in America.

01:05:22.000 And I think.

01:05:23.000 One of the things that I've noticed, especially in the trans issue, if you start pushing back on trans, they think, oh, it's an existential crime.

01:05:31.000 You want to eliminate me or lock me up.

01:05:32.000 And it's like, I think what's helpful here is just to explain to people.

01:05:37.000 I agree with everything you said, Orn, by the way, just for the record.

01:05:41.000 But it's like, we're not trying to handmaid's tail everybody, okay? 0.99

01:05:45.000 Or, you know, put you in a chastity bill or lock you in a cage if you happen to be gay. 0.99

01:05:49.000 That's not what we're saying. 0.99

01:05:50.000 We would have fixed it with three words if he'd said the promotion of homosexuality. 0.92

01:05:54.000 Yes, in this case, the quality. 1.00

01:05:55.000 The issue is, it went from tolerance, you must tolerate it, you must accept it.

01:06:01.000 Now you must celebrate it.

01:06:02.000 And guess what?

01:06:03.000 Now your kids must participate in it.

01:06:05.000 That's the line.

01:06:06.000 We're not promoting it, we're not celebrating it, we're not participating in it.

01:06:10.000 But you are free to do your own degeneracy if you want, as long as you don't bring it into my house or my neighborhood or with my kid.

01:06:17.000 And I think that's an important distinction that we need to make in this conversation because it becomes this they think you're going to lock them all up or something.

01:06:24.000 So, Oren.

01:06:26.000 Let's take stock. 0.96

01:06:27.000 There's a lot of black pilling out there. 0.97

01:06:30.000 There is nihilism.

01:06:33.000 There is, and by the way, I'm going to rip you off on this, but I'm going to give you attribution when appropriate.

01:06:39.000 And this would be one of those times.

01:06:41.000 But the taxonomy of the right.

01:06:44.000 Okay, I added a fifth.

01:06:45.000 You put four, but I added a fifth.

01:06:47.000 You've got the neocons.

01:06:49.000 You've got the trust the planners.

01:06:51.000 You've got the dissidents.

01:06:53.000 Those are people that will not vote Democrat, right?

01:06:55.000 But they'll hold the feet to the fire of the politicians in charge, including President Trump.

01:06:59.000 Then you got the small L libertarians.

01:07:02.000 And that came to the fore with the Massey.

01:07:04.000 Fighting Kentucky, right?

01:07:06.000 A lot of them are demoralized and they probably aren't going to show up unless something changes.

01:07:10.000 And then you got the accelerationist.

01:07:12.000 That's the vote Dem because we need to burn it all down. 0.95

01:07:16.000 We don't like what happened in Iran. 0.99

01:07:18.000 Okay.

01:07:19.000 Vote Dem will remake the party in our image.

01:07:21.000 Okay.

01:07:22.000 So I add five groups to the makeup of the composition of the right.

01:07:30.000 Be honest.

01:07:31.000 The grading of President Trump and the right, what needs to happen?

01:07:35.000 How is it going and what needs to happen ahead of the midterms?

01:07:38.000 Well, I think we saw an awesome beginning from the Trump administration.

01:07:43.000 Trump turned to looked absolutely insane, better than anything I could have expected when we first saw that action taken.

01:07:51.000 The executive orders were coming in fast and hard.

01:07:54.000 And this is what Machiavelli actually says about the conquering prince.

01:07:58.000 He should constantly keep his enemies in awe, he should be constantly moving, constantly doing impressive things, keeping them on their back feet so there's absolutely nothing they can do.

01:08:07.000 And I think that's what the Trump administration looked like at first.

01:08:09.000 I think they had a great plan when it came to the executive orders.

01:08:13.000 It became very clear, however, that they did not have a plan to deal with the Republican Congress.

01:08:18.000 Our greatest stumbling block is the fact that we owned, theoretically, all of the necessary parts of government and still could not move the ball sufficiently.

01:08:26.000 Some of that is on the Trump administration.

01:08:28.000 Some of it is on the Republican Party.

01:08:29.000 The point is, either way, it did not get done.

01:08:32.000 And then, when we didn't seem to be getting as much done domestically, we had obviously the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk.

01:08:39.000 We had the start of all of the different protests that came with.

01:08:44.000 Ice and everything, the bad optics that came with the different shootings that occurred there.

01:08:50.000 Then we had the Iran war, and it has been a number of distractions that pulled us away from that moment where Trump was just running over everything, leaving the Democrats no quarter.

01:09:01.000 And I think we need to see a return to that energy.

01:09:04.000 I think it's very clear the Trump administration is doing its best to get itself out of a very difficult situation in Iran.

01:09:10.000 I think if they're able to do that in a short amount of time, that will give them the ability to refocus and control the narrative because the Trump administration is still.

01:09:18.000 Doing good things.

01:09:19.000 We are still seeing improvements when it comes to immigration, when it comes to what refugees are allowed in the United States, how many H 1Bs are issued.

01:09:27.000 There are victories occurring, but they're hard to see through all of the difficulties, the Epstein files, everything that was kind of mishandled in that interim.

01:09:35.000 And so you need to see a refocus on the domestic agenda.

01:09:39.000 We need to stop getting sound bites about how Donald Trump doesn't care about the price of gasoline or the price of housing.

01:09:45.000 He has to care.

01:09:46.000 Sorry, I don't care what's happening to Iran.

01:09:48.000 I care what's happening to the people here in the United States.

01:09:51.000 And he has to make it clear.

01:09:52.000 He does too.

01:09:53.000 I think if we can get those domestic priorities back and get those winning storylines back because they are still occurring, that will be a big shift.

01:10:00.000 But that's the big if.

01:10:02.000 And it feels like such a struggle where how do you overcome the.

01:10:05.000 It feels like a psychological block where we can recite the domestic wins until we're blue in the face.

01:10:11.000 And it feels like there's a large blob of people and.

01:10:15.000 They're just pissed.

01:10:16.000 They want to be mad. 1.00

01:10:17.000 They want to be black pilled. 0.98

01:10:18.000 They want to say, that's all irrelevant.

01:10:21.000 I actually only care about this foreign policy stuff.

01:10:25.000 And.

01:10:25.000 Frankly, in some cases, it seems they actually only care about dumping on the United States the way a left winger would, where they'll say the U.S. is the problem with this world.

01:10:34.000 We need an alliance with third world Islamists or whatever. 0.59

01:10:38.000 We know there's people out there. 0.95

01:10:39.000 And how do you bring those people, if not back on side, at least stop them from actively aligning with people who hate us?

01:10:47.000 Well, I don't think you have to stop every one of these people.

01:10:49.000 Look, I'm sorry.

01:10:50.000 I'll just invoke the name.

01:10:51.000 I don't think Nick Fuentes is going to be on side anytime soon.

01:10:54.000 So you can just kind of lose the notion that that's going to happen.

01:10:57.000 I think what you really need ultimately is to overwhelm them with success.

01:11:01.000 We can talk about these incremental wins, and they are important and they matter.

01:11:05.000 And I think that they should get more publicity than they do.

01:11:08.000 But ultimately, you need to give that feeling of momentum.

01:11:12.000 Your wins have to be so overwhelming that no one can help but notice.

01:11:15.000 I think that was the case early on with the Trump administration.

01:11:18.000 But again, due to the failure of certain procedural mechanisms, we've gotten bogged down.

01:11:24.000 It looks like the Trump administration went from having a small revolution inside the government, destroying the deep state.

01:11:31.000 Going after the bad actors to trying to just govern the apparatus that was there.

01:11:36.000 And I think people felt that shift, along with, of course, all the other things that the Trump administration couldn't control that ultimately did add to this problem.

01:11:46.000 So I think that you have to regain that momentum.

01:11:48.000 You have to stop worrying about trying to discipline every single actor.

01:11:52.000 They'll like you when you win, when you win overwhelmingly, where it's no longer something they can deny.

01:11:58.000 They will then be on your side because they were bandwagon in the first place and they'll be back on the bandwagon when it's rolling.

01:12:04.000 You can control the bandwagon.

01:12:05.000 So, get it moving.

01:12:07.000 I think that's smart.

01:12:08.000 We had a guest in the studio yesterday, and after the show, I started listing off all the domestic wins, and it was kind of like, whoa, why don't we talk about that more?

01:12:16.000 I was like, murder rate, lowest it's been since 1900.

01:12:20.000 We got 3,000 arrests in the interior every day, maybe 3,500 on some days.

01:12:25.000 We've got tariffs that are bringing back manufacturing directly.

01:12:30.000 We've actually got a closed border.

01:12:32.000 DEI is out of the government.

01:12:34.000 We've cut more jobs in the federal government.

01:12:36.000 50, 366,000, the lowest federal employment since 1966. 0.96

01:12:41.000 These are big, big wins, and we need to go harder, but we need to also talk about them a lot more and not give in to the doomerism. 0.86

01:12:47.000 Orrin McIntyre, you're the man.

01:12:49.000 We love having you on.

01:12:50.000 Great thinking, great analysis, as always.

01:12:52.000 We'll talk to you soon.

01:12:53.000 Thanks again, guys.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 03, 2026

Will Britain Awaken? Can the West Save Itself?

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