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00:03:15.000Explain to the audience who maybe is still getting to know you.
00:03:18.000Nationally, you know, kind of your stance as a farmer in Iowa and about pesticides, glyphosate, so much that has animated people like Alex Clark on our team.
00:03:29.000And explain how that resonated with voters.
00:03:31.000Yeah, you know, I think a lot of what I talk about is facing down these long term systemic issues we've been, you know, looking at as a state, you know, that have been going on for a very long time.
00:03:40.000And politicians from both sides just have not been addressing.
00:03:43.000You know, one of the keys that you're mentioning there is Iowa has the fastest rate of new cancer of anywhere in the history of the world.
00:03:49.000You know, we are, I said last night, we're going to funerals of people who are dying at 60, whose parents lived to be 80.
00:03:55.000We're losing the wisdom of an entire generation.
00:03:58.000So, but there's other things too that are really resonating with people.
00:04:02.000You know, I was losing our kids faster than 46 other states.
00:04:06.000And, you know, I was one of those kids.
00:04:08.000I thought I had to leave Iowa to find something better and end up coming back home.
00:04:12.000But I'm really fighting to try to make life more affordable, to help kids be able to buy their first homes, grow big families.
00:04:18.000That's really a lot of what our campaign's been about.
00:04:21.000And I think that there's this message of sort of economic populism mixed with the MAHA agenda that is a winning message.
00:04:30.000Across the country, I truly believe that, and we're trying to weld those two things together because I truly believe them.
00:04:36.000And you know, I think you guys might know this, but uh, Charlie and I first met in 2011, he was 17, and we spoke at the same event together.
00:04:45.000It was in you can still find the article in I think Kalispell, Montana.
00:04:50.000Like all this energy he has, and he had the poster, Big Government Sucks.
00:04:55.000But I've followed you guys and him for a long time, and I've watched him talk about those same issues.
00:05:04.000That's really what our campaign's been about.
00:05:07.000It's four key issues keeping Iowa's kids in Iowa, saving our family farms, making our education system number one in the nation again, and stopping the cancer crisis.
00:05:16.000So, if anybody is out there wondering why we endorsed this guy for governor in Iowa, he sounds, I mean, everything you just said, Zach, sounds so reminiscent of what we heard Charlie say day in, day out on this show, on college campuses affordability, taking care of the next generation, making sure that they get to inherit the American dream, buy a home, start a family.
00:05:40.000And obviously, taking care of this cancer crisis in Iowa, which is a local issue, but it's a national issue.
00:05:45.000You guys maybe have it a little bit in greater measure because of all the farming.
00:06:02.000Because, you know, you hear voices like RFK Jr. that echo what you're saying, but they also understand there's an economic reality and you have to off ramp over time, right?
00:06:22.000We have, when I was growing up in Iowa, we had about 300 seed input and fertilizer companies selling products to our farmers.
00:06:27.000Now, three companies control 85% of the market.
00:06:31.000They need to be broken up through antitrust suits, it's far past monopoly.
00:06:34.000And so the farmers see they're being extorted on prices there.
00:06:38.000And so, what I've really made the case of is the same companies that are extorting on prices are also lying to you about the safety of their products.
00:06:44.000And so, the state I've watched as Ron DeSantis has done this in Florida.
00:06:48.000We need to be doing independent research on the safety of products.
00:06:51.000We need to incentivize off ramps for farmers to different types of farming, just like we do on our farm today.
00:06:56.000I run a regenerative farm, most of it's organic, the rest is being transitioned in.
00:07:02.000And part of the reason I do that is because, on a per acre basis, we can make more money.
00:07:06.000And that's a big part of my goal is you know, right now, young people can't afford to get on farms.
00:07:10.000And so, I want to restore that heritage of my state.
00:07:22.000And I think that the reliance on some of these big ag groups that are creating products and then not telling the truth about their safety is a bad thing.
00:07:30.000So, one of the key things I'm pushing for, which Alex and the Maha movement have been pushing for, is no immunity from liability for pesticide companies.
00:07:38.000If your product harms somebody, they deserve to have recourse.
00:07:40.000It's a part of the free market to do that.
00:07:48.000One of the exciting parts, I think, for us, especially from Turning Point, is I mean, you becoming governor of Iowa would make you one of the youngest governors, if not the youngest governor in the Republican Party.
00:08:28.000Like, look, under the 10th Amendment, we are supposed to be competing to be the best state.
00:08:33.000And that's what I'm trying to do is figure out how do we compete to be better.
00:08:36.000And I'm even calling for things like income tax abatements that would go towards a down payment on a home if you're willing to move back to Iowa, if you graduate from high school here.
00:08:45.000And it would go into an account to help you afford a home.
00:08:48.000And for every kid that leaves our state, we lose $450,000 in tax revenue.
00:08:53.000And I'm more concerned about the culture and the heritage and the family traditions.
00:09:55.000We've launched Iowa 99 at iowan99.com, where we have leaders in every single county across all 99 counties in Iowa.
00:10:03.000And so we're wanting to establish a long term base of activism that's not just going to be able to make sure that the agenda that Governor Lane will institute will happen, but we have a great outcome for 2028.
00:10:57.000The in typical fashion, a sitting governor really has no problem whatsoever making it through a primary.
00:11:06.000In this case, we have a governor who was on the ballot and it came in second place.
00:11:13.000And it was like Blake mentioned very easily, he could have come in fourth place because all four of them were relatively close, none of them broke the threshold necessary to win.
00:11:52.000Like we mentioned, it was really close.
00:11:54.000But the story of the day was that the governor came in second, not a staunch conservative, not viewed as a staunch conservative, viewed more as an establishment candidate.
00:12:06.000And this is part of the reason why he did not do very well, where he lost pretty significant margins of votes to three other candidates last night.
00:12:16.000And Toby is kind of leaning as the front runner.
00:12:49.000I'm reminding people it's really, really critical because.
00:12:53.000This could really start to impact decisions that are being made, whether Thune decides to run again.
00:12:59.000If someone's going to challenge Thune, especially if the Save America Act does not get done because it doesn't look like the president's agenda is getting executed in the U.S. Senate.
00:13:10.000Well, and to underscore Tyler's point here, I mean, we've got Bill Cassidy lost his primary, John Cornyn lost his primary.
00:13:16.000You've got Mark Lynch and Lady Graham going head to head in South Carolina next week, I believe, on the ninth.
00:13:29.000Anyway, the point is the old guard is getting challenged in ways that they have not been challenged in a long time.
00:13:36.000And to Tyler's point, if you think Thune is untouchable, think again.
00:13:40.000Toby's election here or winning this primary, yeah, they're going to a runoff, but his victory here says that anything is possible in South Dakota.
00:13:50.000And it shows it's a temperature check of the base voter.
00:13:53.000Well, Andrew, you'd be an insane person if you're Thune looking at the results from last night.
00:13:59.000And thinking that you can get away with not passing the Save America Act.
00:14:03.000So you have two things that could happen out of this, I think.
00:14:06.000One is that, I mean, there's really, I mean, there's people making calls today saying, I want to run against Thune based off of the results of yesterday's primary.
00:14:15.000But you have a secondary issue here, which is is he going to dig his heels in and basically defy the president or aid the Democrats and really nasty stuff that could happen after midterms?
00:14:30.000Or is he going to get on board, look at his own state, his own home, and say, I can't keep messing around anymore.
00:14:39.000I'm going to make sure that the Senate is called back in and we're work groups and figuring this out until the Save America Act gets done because there's still a very small window, but still a window left to get this thing done before this election.
00:14:55.000I think Thune is definitely on notice now.
00:14:57.000I'm going to play this hilarious clip out of LA.
00:15:00.000We turn our attention to the West Coast.
00:15:03.000Steve Hilton is in first, but it's going to take two months for them to count the votes in California.
00:15:06.000So we'll check back in in a couple months.
00:15:09.000But, anyways, this is a touch point outside of Spencer Pratt's party last night, 32.
00:15:15.000There's some Spencer Pratt supporters here who seem in a very good mood.
00:15:20.000What is it about Spencer Pratt that you just are resonating with you?
00:15:24.000Because he's speaking out against communism and socialism, and it is a real big problem in our cities, especially in LA where it's turned to crap.
00:16:14.000Anyways, listen, here's the deal Spencer Pratt.
00:16:17.000Hanging into second, but there are doubts that he's going to be able to hang on.
00:16:21.000Tyler, I've been on more group chats with you than I can count where people are like, What about Spencer Pratt?
00:16:28.000Your thoughts on what we're going to see unfold as mail in ballots continue to stream in over the next two weeks?
00:16:33.000Yeah, look, I mean, the hope I think that we all had was that it would be Spencer Pratt versus the communist and that she would take off.
00:16:41.000And I think that that's the commies thought that they could turn her into somewhat of a Mamdani, but she didn't take off, she didn't have support.
00:16:51.000Karen Bass was able to maintain her base support.
00:16:55.000And the problem that's ahead for us now is that, you know, Spencer Pratt's going to have to convince a wide variety of people to vote for him in a runoff, which is going to occur on the same day as the midterm election.
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00:18:44.000All right, without further ado, this is an issue Blake and I have been talking about behind the scenes for the last, I don't know, couple weeks actually, and we're going to be covering it on the show.
00:20:43.000And at some point after that, In the minutes that followed, it ended up with poor Henry, who again is an 18 year old boy, somebody's mother, somebody's son, somebody's brother.
00:20:52.000He was stabbed five times by Digwala using his ceremonial sword, which is a kippan.
00:21:00.000So, in the United Kingdom, you're not allowed to carry a knife anywhere, it's illegal, it's against the law.
00:21:04.000However, Sikhs have a religious exemption, they're allowed to carry a knife as part of their faith.
00:21:10.000So, Henry is sliced five times, including in the chest, he's slashed around the face, he tries to run off.
00:21:17.000And he's scared of fence, and he's got injuries to the back of his legs as well.
00:21:20.000And the police are called, not by Henry, not by witnesses, but they're called by the killer's brother, who claims that Henry has levied racist abuse towards Digwa.
00:21:33.000He tried to throw his turban off his head and he called him hertzy racist names.
00:21:37.000So the brother's involved on the scene.
00:21:40.000The killer's still at the scene filming Henry dying on the floor.
00:21:43.000And you can see this is police body cam footage on you now.
00:21:59.000The police officer, because Digwe was there saying he's been racially abused, the police officer is more concerned with the fact that this guy may have been racially abused and called a name.
00:22:35.000Anything you do say may be given in evidence.
00:22:36.000And those are the last words that poor boy heard on the floor.
00:22:39.000All because, Andrew, we have dangerous progressive race theory, which has cut British institutions, police forces, who are now more concerned about racism than the pleas of a dying boy on the floor.
00:22:55.000Ben, it really has been interesting to see this case unfold because it's been happening over several weeks.
00:23:01.000The murder happened months ago, but then the trial begins and just the details start to trickle out.
00:23:06.000And it just feels like at every step, you almost couldn't write a television episode that would hit as many beats as this does.
00:23:14.000The way he's the killer immediately knows we need to create a story of racism and lie about this in order to try to win the police over.
00:23:23.000They literally delayed calling the police so they could work out their story.
00:23:28.000The fact that they're caught on camera, I believe, in the police car, basically talking to each other in Punjabi, saying, Yeah, I stabbed him, but we're going to lie about this.
00:23:39.000And then the fact that he's carrying a knife, a normal British person whose ancestors fought at the Battle of Hastings can't carry that knife, but this immigrant group can carry the knife that he used to kill them.
00:24:03.000The brother was on the phone to the police on 999 saying they'd been victim of racism.
00:24:07.000The father then came down and manhandled Henry's body.
00:24:09.000And just the way poor Henry was dragged across the gravel with blood filling his lungs, the police didn't bother to give first aid.
00:24:16.000And what we've seen, this is a result of, as I said, dangerous progressive race theory.
00:24:19.000Hampshire police, for example, the police constabulary involved in this case, they have a race action plan on their website which states verbatim the force will pursue offenders and deal with offenders.
00:24:29.000That caused the most harm to ethnic minority communities.
00:24:33.000So, not all communities, not white communities, ethnic minority communities specifically.
00:24:39.000Essex police described white people as a non protective group in a similar action plan.
00:24:43.000And what this has done, as I said, this is the beginning of the UK getting its mojo back.
00:24:48.000Thousands of people protesting on the streets of Southampton last night, skirmishes with police, the anger is at tipping point.
00:24:54.000And do you know what happened when George Floyd was killed in Minneapolis?
00:24:58.000And by the way, in no way are these two comparable.
00:25:01.000George Floyd, a drug addict who held a A gun up to a woman's abdomen in a robbery.
00:25:07.000Starmer, Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister, everybody did who was cucked, took the knee.
00:25:14.000He gets up in Parliament and he has a go at Nigel Farage, who described the incident as horrific and said that people should have cold rage in anger.
00:25:23.000And Keir Starmer took the knee for George Floyd, nothing for Henry Novak.
00:25:27.000And he stood up today, guys, saying he's focused, the Prime Minister, on what lessons need to be learned.
00:25:32.000Well, let me tell you, I'm tired of hearing lessons.
00:25:35.000I said this on X earlier, because They're not learning the lessons.
00:25:38.000The government, time after time, is repeating the same mistakes.
00:25:42.000We had multiple incidents in the UK of recent years where police, who in their bid not to be racist or hurt people emotionally, have allowed atrocities to take place Manchester Arena bombing, the Ariana Grande concert, where dozens of small girls were blown up by a suicide bomber.
00:26:01.000The police officer who spotted that guy on that incident was too afraid to approach him with a dodgy looking backpack on his back because he thought he'd be called racist.
00:26:09.000We've had the rape scandal, the industrial rape of working class girls in Britain for decades by Pakistani grooming gams.
00:26:15.000Nobody got involved or stopped that because they're too scared of being called racist.
00:26:19.000We had Valdo Calicane, who was a mentally ill guy, a black chap from Nottingham, who went onto the street and slaughtered three people.
00:26:26.000Mental health services let him go and allowed him to commit those murders.
00:26:29.000Again, two young people slain in cold blood because they're afraid of being called racist.
00:26:34.000Axel Rudabucana, the monster who went and slaughtered those three girls at the Taylor Swift dance class two years ago.
00:26:41.000He was allowed to carry on despite warning signs because people were too afraid of being called racist.
00:26:45.000And of course, the illegal migrant boat invasion of Europe, tens of thousands of illegals from the third world allowed to flood in.
00:26:52.000And you've got these lefty lunatics, the suicidal empathy commies, and that's what they are, allowing this to happen and promoting it because somehow it's racist if you want it to stop.
00:27:22.000They are not a protected class when the whole purpose, the social compact between a government and its people is that its citizens should come first.
00:27:31.000And the UK strikes me as a case in point, a case study of a country that has completely turned its back on the social compact, the most fundamental duty of a government.
00:28:06.000We've got this thing in Britain, Andrew, which is a shame, which Charlie pointed out last year, where these tragedies happen the Southport murders, the Manchester Arena bombing, the 7 7 bombing, London Bridge attacks.
00:28:39.000Well, let me tell you, it was about time we did look back in anger and we started doing something about it.
00:28:42.000The two police officers involved, the one who said, I don't think you have, mate, they're being investigated, but they need to be prosecuted.
00:28:48.000Same with the family who tried covering it up.
00:29:14.000So, well, we want to dive into the protests which have erupted here.
00:29:17.000So, Britain, for Americans who don't understand, Britain has a position the Home Secretary, kind of the chief cop, chief immigration enforcer, kind of a combination of DHS and Attorney General.
00:29:32.000Isn't that the chief immigration person?
00:29:34.000A person handling immigration enforcement in the case named Shabana Mahmood.
00:29:37.000She also handles protests like this one.
00:29:40.000So, right now, I want to flag she is threatening maximal legal crackdown on the people protesting over Novak's death in the Southampton area.
00:29:51.000And I just dug into her history and a couple things.
00:29:53.000First of all, last fall, she announced new policies that I believe have been implemented to allow police to put conditions and restrictions on repeat protests.
00:30:04.000So, this is not violent protests, this is not instruction, it's just Protesting repeatedly because she says it intimidates or spreads fear among communities.
00:30:14.000I'm sure that will be applied equally in this country.
00:30:16.000And in 2020, as a member of parliament, she sent a letter after George Floyd's death demanding that the British government ban exports of riot gear that could be used by law enforcement so that it could not be used to contain riots in the United States over George Floyd.
00:30:34.000So that's Britain's Home Secretary right now.
00:30:37.000And the comparison I've heard, Ben, and you can respond to this.
00:30:42.000It feels like the British government and British police view themselves as an occupying foreign power handling an insurrection by a restive native population, which is British people.
00:30:55.000Well, there's a long running conversation in the UK now, which has been considered far right for a couple of years, about whether Shabana Mahmood is British, although she's got some controversy in my book, because although she's deemed as the most right wing minister in the Labour Party in the government right now, she's apparently trying to crack down on illegal migration and so on.
00:31:17.000She's trying to broker deals with France and so on.
00:31:20.000I continually make the point that Shabana Mahmoud, some years ago, was on the beaches of Lesvos, the Greek island in Eastern Europe, where the illegal migration wave of Europe was starting.
00:31:33.000So, all these people would come through Turkey, through Africa, they'd go through Lesvos.
00:31:37.000She was pictured on the beaches of Lesvos, handing out life jackets to illegal migrants and so on.
00:31:41.000So, I just don't see how now you can change your ideological and even spiritual stance to such a point where, on one minute, you're welcoming thousands of migrants through Europe.
00:31:51.000And the next minute, you're in the UK government prancing around trying to convince the British public that you are serious about stopping illegal migration.
00:32:12.000The only people they're deporting are Vietnamese nail bar workers who no one really cares about because it's not the Vietnamese nail bar workers who are going out causing jihad and saying that they want to bring down.
00:32:24.000So I've had my concerns about Shabana Mahmood for some time, even just on the very basics politically, that I don't know how you can change your ideology that quickly at the click of a finger.
00:32:34.000I don't trust her to sort out the UK's migration problem or indeed protect the future of the UK's sovereignty and culture and identity, which is what's under attack here, is an attack on British heritage.
00:32:46.000Britain in 50 years will not look anything like it did when I was a small boy.
00:32:50.000It's already changed exponentially in just 20 years.
00:33:51.000I'm just, does the UK have that kind of spunk, that mojo?
00:33:54.000Well, I've been saying for a couple of weeks now, whoever takes the reins of power in a couple of years at the general election, they'll need to look at what's happened in the US with regards to mass deportations, how ICE have handled it, what problems the White House have had, i.e., the protests, the resistance.
00:34:09.000Reform UK absolutely wiping the polls.
00:34:11.000They've been leading every poll for the past year and a half.
00:34:13.000They just won the local elections, which are kind of like our midterms in the UK.
00:34:30.000He's a bit more right wing than Farage is expected to be.
00:34:33.000But they have said Reform UK, they'll start a, as far as I remember, a UK version of ICE for mass deportation, certainly at the very least of illegal migrants.
00:34:42.000And then the other conversation is, as you mentioned, Andrew, the Pakistani rape gangs.
00:34:45.000Everybody in those communities who knew what was going on, whether they were directly involved in abusing white working class English girls or not, but they knew what was going on and they said nothing, there's an argument that even though they are British nationals or maybe dual nationals, they need to go as well.
00:35:00.000That's where maybe it gets a little bit murky.
00:35:12.000And I don't think people are prepared for it because, as you see in the United States, you get into the weeds of it, you start doing what needs to be done, and people bottle it.
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00:37:20.000So as of today, over 4,400 lawsuits have been filed in the U.S. alone.
00:37:28.000Regarding what are known as GLP 1 drugs like Ozempic, I don't even know how to say these other ones, Wagovi, Manjaro, I think that's how they're pronounced.
00:37:38.000As GLP 1 use moves from a niche treatment to a mainstream phenomenon, that number is going to explode.
00:38:58.000So, what causes this and how bad are the health side effects of GLP 1s?
00:39:05.000Well, so Ozempic face is caused by that rapid, significant weight loss from the GLP medications, like you said, like Ozempic and Wagovi.
00:39:14.000And it causes the fat to vanish so quickly from the face.
00:39:19.000And so this sudden depletion, it leaves the skin with a reduced elasticity.
00:39:24.000And then you get the sagging and the hollow cheeks and the sunken eyes, and your wrinkles are intensified because what happens is the skin cannot shrink as fast as the fat disappears.
00:39:35.000Honestly, Ozempic face is probably the least of your worries if you're taking one of these drugs.
00:39:41.000Like you said, it's not only causing vision loss and stomach paralysis, complete organ failure, but now it's being linked to mood and psychological disorders, anxiety, depression, also hair loss, especially in women, pancreatic inflammation, and something called Ozempic breath.
00:40:01.000So I don't know if you've heard of that, but it's a term that they're using to describe this foul smelling breath, kind of like a metallic taste.
00:40:08.000Fishy smelling burps, and you know, it's increasingly being reported.
00:40:13.000These are not attractive side effects, yeah.
00:40:16.000No, yeah, I mean, uh, bad breath is basically like the chief, I think, turnoff in just normal human interaction.
00:40:24.000But we're like, okay, so bad breath's one thing, but the anxiety, depression that is probably the one thing our country needs, yeah, uh, like another hole in the head.
00:40:32.000Um, pancreatic inflammation, but like the we're having stomach paralysis, okay?
00:41:56.000Recently, a three year old woman, she actually went viral because she was diagnosed with advanced osteoporosis only after using Ozempic for one year, right?
00:42:05.000We know that, you know, losing weight naturally is not easy, but diet, exercise.
00:42:11.000And something a lot of people don't know is that there was actually a study done that showed that people who are obese. are missing a couple of crucial probiotics within their gut that people within a healthy weight range possess.
00:42:24.000And when you have these specific strains in your gut, it can make all the difference between being obese or being skinny.
00:42:32.000The other thing I want to point out is just because you have a big, oh, there it is.
00:43:13.000And I always said it's just a matter of time till we find out what the side effects are.
00:43:18.000And so, what's your recommendation for people that are having some of these side effects or have tried GLP 1s and that are no longer on them, but they're worried about the health impacts that perhaps they experienced?
00:46:43.000We've seen what's happening with Britain.
00:46:44.000Yeah, I think that's against our rules here.
00:46:47.000But we wanted to have you on, and because you are going to be part of our Freedom Night, which is a tradition that Charlie himself started.
00:46:55.000Now, Pastor Lucas Miles, who runs TPUSA Faith, has taken it over and he's done an amazing job.
00:47:00.000And you guys are going to be meeting tonight, having a conversation here in Phoenix.
00:47:36.000But I think we'll be talking a bit about what is it that really lies at the root of nationhood.
00:47:45.000And, you know, this whole tension we're in right now, I think, both in Europe, in Britain, and in the United States around what is it that constitutes a nation?
00:47:55.000Is there a religious root to nationhood?
00:48:05.000This is a big conversation that's going on.
00:48:07.000What really makes Britain or America or what constitutes, what lies at the foundation of our unity?
00:48:14.000Well, what do you believe lies at the foundation?
00:48:17.000Well, I think biblically, from a Christian standpoint, I'm a Christian apologist, so I actually think that it's God's covenant that lies at the foundation of nationhood.
00:48:25.000If you want to look at what a nation is, I think the best example is going to scripture and actually asking, well, when God constituted a nation, how did he do it?
00:48:36.000Well, he called out a people out of Egypt, and the scripture says they left a mixed multitude.
00:48:44.000The Hebrews left Egypt a mixed multitude.
00:48:47.000In fact, Joseph was married to an Egyptian.
00:48:51.000So, two tribes of Israel, Ephraim and Manasseh, were half African, not Hebrew.
00:48:57.000And of course, the people pick up along the way various famous Gentiles like Rahab and so on, who end up in the genealogy of Christ.
00:49:04.000So, what really constituted Israel as a people was.
00:49:07.000Faith and covenant, not skin tone or even ethnic background.
00:49:13.000I mean, even Abraham had eight sons, but only one was the child of promise.
00:49:17.000So, what constituted them was their religious worldview and their agreement with God, their covenant with God, their oath, in a sense.
00:49:24.000And that's what lies at the root of the British nation, the coronation oath, 1688, and of course the presidential oath of office, which used to be taken on an open Bible to the covenant in Deuteronomy 27 28.
00:49:38.000Well, it kind of reminds me of that famous line from Ruth, right?
00:49:41.000Where Ruth says, you know, do not urge me to leave you or to return from following you, for where you go, I will go.
00:50:12.000And now there's a lot of tension going on because I think a lot of Brits feel like they've had enough of feeling like second class citizens in their own country.
00:50:20.000So you guys got a huge assimilation issue just like we have in the United States now, and it's getting bigger and larger and probably more problematic.
00:50:29.000So what do you say as a Christian, as an apologist?
00:50:32.000Your book, A Mission of God, by the way, the subtitle I think is really apt A Manifesto of Hope for Society.
00:50:40.000What's your message of hope for the British society that's going through this ethnic?
00:50:46.000Well, our problem is that we've abandoned the foundation of our nationhood, which was Christian commitment.
00:50:52.000It was there, as you know, in the UK, there's a soft establishment.
00:50:57.000The coronation oath commits the head of state to the advancement of the law and gospel of Christ.
00:51:03.000But we've, the church itself, not just the Church of England, but the churches across the board, have essentially abandoned the idea of a Christian nation.
00:51:13.000Well, by the way, the EU, when it was chartered, I believe, there was a wrestle over whether or not to say Christianity or Christendom, and they opted out.
00:52:01.000It's not just illegal migration that's destroying the fabric of the country, it's the mass, yeah, it's the mass legal migration from cultures that do not share our fundamental religious commitment.
00:52:13.000Obviously, we know it's not simply a case of skin color.
00:52:16.000Look at the conflict between the democrats and the republicans, it's not a conflict over skin color.
00:52:20.000And me and Pete Buttigieg don't share much in common, even though we share a skin exactly.
00:52:24.000Yeah, well, I'm a little darker than him, actually.
00:52:26.000But it's the religious root, it's the worldview issue, and the multicultural.
00:52:30.000Have not understood that you cannot have more than one God and more than one law governing a society.
00:56:27.000So, there are so many ways we could directions we could go with you, Orrin, because you do think about the big issues of the day.
00:56:34.000And I guess, like, if I had to sum it all up, we had these primaries last night.
00:56:41.000We had a great result in Iowa, a turning point action endorsed guy we had at the top of the show, Zach Lane, who's talking about affordability.
00:56:50.000He's talking about Maha and MAGA, like, Keeping it together.
00:56:53.000He's talking about homes for Iowa kids that have been forced to leave in generations past.
00:57:01.000And then we see what's happening in New Jersey, where we have this basic militant force that's fighting us at every turn to get basic enforcement of immigration laws back on the table.
00:58:01.000We don't want people mutilating children.
00:58:03.000We don't want these different degenerate forces forced down on us.
00:58:07.000We don't want the open borders, the immigration that has been crushing our nation.
00:58:12.000But we didn't really have an understanding of where we wanted the country to go.
00:58:17.000I think a lot of people looked at Trump as a general attack on a system that was not doing its job.
00:58:22.000And when we look at what's happening in the UK and what's happening here, We can recognize a system that has failed its population entirely and doesn't seem very worried about that.
00:58:33.000So we recognize Trump as that actor that wants to smash through those barriers and make America great again, restore it to something we know that we've lost.
00:58:42.000The problem is, I think we have a difficulty in knowing exactly what we lost because of all the different types of propaganda and discussions and everything else that has happened around American identity.
00:59:00.000Is it all of these things to some extent?
00:59:03.000And because we haven't done very much work on that, and I think our enemies have done a great job at dismantling that, we're in this constant situation where we're pushing back against them, but we're also kind of internally struggling to figure out where we're going.
01:00:22.000I think the trick is remembering that all traditions have to be living traditions.
01:00:27.000There's a mistake that conservatives make where they want to freeze the past in place and return to that spot, be it the 1950s or the 1990s or whatever past moment they thought America was at its apex.
01:00:45.000And there are great things to notice about those decades.
01:00:48.000But the trick is a tradition is lived, it is continuing forward.
01:00:53.000And so you have to integrate what America was with what America is and what it will be.
01:00:59.000And so we can recognize greatness in the 1950s or the 1990s, but also recognize that America is going somewhere.
01:01:06.000And that if we want to go the correct direction, we have to steward that legacy.
01:01:10.000We have to take the best of the past, but we also need to address the issues of the present.
01:01:15.000So, in ways that we can look back, we can see that in the 1950s, perhaps, there was a stronger family culture, there was a stronger desire for people to have families, to grow families.
01:01:28.000In many ways, the prosperity after World War II.
01:01:31.000So, when we talk about that affordability, when we talk about that, we can't just say, oh, well, we want the 1950s back.
01:01:37.000We have to recognize what made the 1950s possible manufacturing booms, the ability of the average man to get a job and care for a family on one income.
01:01:47.000These are things that the GOP would never have touched a decade or two ago.
01:01:51.000And now they're more and more at the center of discussions.
01:01:54.000I think that's a good start in getting us back on the track of recognizing how to weave the past into our future.
01:02:10.000We're in the month of pride, as we are every year in June, and there's been a lot going on.
01:02:15.000And yesterday, Representative Andy Ogles, who's been a friend of this program, he had a tweet where he said very bluntly, Homosexuality has no place in America.
01:03:18.000However, of course, Donald Trump was the guy who carried the gay pride flag onto the stage, you know, so Trump is in some ways a first mover in this problem.
01:03:27.000But yeah, ultimately, I think that a lot of Republicans are still operating in this idea that we've kind of declared this neutral space when it comes to discussing any form of sexual morality or family formation or any of these things.
01:03:39.000We know we don't want men and women's sports, but generally we should just leave.
01:03:44.000The truth is that, as you say, the Republican Party used to be much better on this because it actually directly contradicts the Christian religion, which we should all be upholding.
01:03:53.000And so we shouldn't be scared to say that this is not a good lifestyle.
01:03:56.000Now, that doesn't mean I have to run around and arrest everybody who ends up dating another man or something.
01:04:03.000But ultimately, this should not be encouraged and that should be something that's normalized.
01:04:16.000And it's very disappointing to see a representative that otherwise has had a pretty promising career, promising future, lots of good rhetoric back away on something like this because it shows weakness.
01:04:26.000When you really look at what happened, there was a point at which it did seem like homosexuality was being normalized on the right.
01:04:35.000We are seeing that more and more Republicans, conservatives, and even the newer generation are looking at homosexuality and saying, maybe we should not have gone this far with the acceptance of this.
01:04:46.000So I think it's a bad read of the direction that the base is going and even the general.
01:04:51.000There are going to be more and more gender radicals, but I think there are more and more people recognizing that that came from somewhere and it was the acceptance of the initial homosexual push.
01:05:00.000Yeah, and one note here on Andy Ogles he is super based, he's really good on immigration.
01:05:06.000He's the only member of Congress I've ever heard use the word libtard, and he said it on this show.
01:05:12.000Yeah, and he wants an immigration moratorium.
01:05:14.000He wants to roll back the hard seller.
01:05:23.000One of the things that I've noticed, especially in the trans issue, if you start pushing back on trans, they think, oh, it's an existential crime.
01:05:31.000You want to eliminate me or lock me up.
01:05:32.000And it's like, I think what's helpful here is just to explain to people.
01:05:37.000I agree with everything you said, Orn, by the way, just for the record.
01:05:41.000But it's like, we're not trying to handmaid's tail everybody, okay?
01:05:45.000Or, you know, put you in a chastity bill or lock you in a cage if you happen to be gay.
01:06:06.000We're not promoting it, we're not celebrating it, we're not participating in it.
01:06:10.000But you are free to do your own degeneracy if you want, as long as you don't bring it into my house or my neighborhood or with my kid.
01:06:17.000And I think that's an important distinction that we need to make in this conversation because it becomes this they think you're going to lock them all up or something.
01:07:31.000The grading of President Trump and the right, what needs to happen?
01:07:35.000How is it going and what needs to happen ahead of the midterms?
01:07:38.000Well, I think we saw an awesome beginning from the Trump administration.
01:07:43.000Trump turned to looked absolutely insane, better than anything I could have expected when we first saw that action taken.
01:07:51.000The executive orders were coming in fast and hard.
01:07:54.000And this is what Machiavelli actually says about the conquering prince.
01:07:58.000He should constantly keep his enemies in awe, he should be constantly moving, constantly doing impressive things, keeping them on their back feet so there's absolutely nothing they can do.
01:08:07.000And I think that's what the Trump administration looked like at first.
01:08:09.000I think they had a great plan when it came to the executive orders.
01:08:13.000It became very clear, however, that they did not have a plan to deal with the Republican Congress.
01:08:18.000Our greatest stumbling block is the fact that we owned, theoretically, all of the necessary parts of government and still could not move the ball sufficiently.
01:08:26.000Some of that is on the Trump administration.
01:08:28.000Some of it is on the Republican Party.
01:08:29.000The point is, either way, it did not get done.
01:08:32.000And then, when we didn't seem to be getting as much done domestically, we had obviously the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk.
01:08:39.000We had the start of all of the different protests that came with.
01:08:44.000Ice and everything, the bad optics that came with the different shootings that occurred there.
01:08:50.000Then we had the Iran war, and it has been a number of distractions that pulled us away from that moment where Trump was just running over everything, leaving the Democrats no quarter.
01:09:01.000And I think we need to see a return to that energy.
01:09:04.000I think it's very clear the Trump administration is doing its best to get itself out of a very difficult situation in Iran.
01:09:10.000I think if they're able to do that in a short amount of time, that will give them the ability to refocus and control the narrative because the Trump administration is still.
01:09:19.000We are still seeing improvements when it comes to immigration, when it comes to what refugees are allowed in the United States, how many H 1Bs are issued.
01:09:27.000There are victories occurring, but they're hard to see through all of the difficulties, the Epstein files, everything that was kind of mishandled in that interim.
01:09:35.000And so you need to see a refocus on the domestic agenda.
01:09:39.000We need to stop getting sound bites about how Donald Trump doesn't care about the price of gasoline or the price of housing.
01:09:53.000I think if we can get those domestic priorities back and get those winning storylines back because they are still occurring, that will be a big shift.
01:10:25.000Frankly, in some cases, it seems they actually only care about dumping on the United States the way a left winger would, where they'll say the U.S. is the problem with this world.
01:10:34.000We need an alliance with third world Islamists or whatever.
01:10:51.000I don't think Nick Fuentes is going to be on side anytime soon.
01:10:54.000So you can just kind of lose the notion that that's going to happen.
01:10:57.000I think what you really need ultimately is to overwhelm them with success.
01:11:01.000We can talk about these incremental wins, and they are important and they matter.
01:11:05.000And I think that they should get more publicity than they do.
01:11:08.000But ultimately, you need to give that feeling of momentum.
01:11:12.000Your wins have to be so overwhelming that no one can help but notice.
01:11:15.000I think that was the case early on with the Trump administration.
01:11:18.000But again, due to the failure of certain procedural mechanisms, we've gotten bogged down.
01:11:24.000It looks like the Trump administration went from having a small revolution inside the government, destroying the deep state.
01:11:31.000Going after the bad actors to trying to just govern the apparatus that was there.
01:11:36.000And I think people felt that shift, along with, of course, all the other things that the Trump administration couldn't control that ultimately did add to this problem.
01:11:46.000So I think that you have to regain that momentum.
01:11:48.000You have to stop worrying about trying to discipline every single actor.
01:11:52.000They'll like you when you win, when you win overwhelmingly, where it's no longer something they can deny.
01:11:58.000They will then be on your side because they were bandwagon in the first place and they'll be back on the bandwagon when it's rolling.
01:12:08.000We had a guest in the studio yesterday, and after the show, I started listing off all the domestic wins, and it was kind of like, whoa, why don't we talk about that more?
01:12:16.000I was like, murder rate, lowest it's been since 1900.
01:12:20.000We got 3,000 arrests in the interior every day, maybe 3,500 on some days.
01:12:25.000We've got tariffs that are bringing back manufacturing directly.