The Charlie Kirk Show - Will New York Be Conquered By The Red-Green Alliance?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio.

00:00:04.000 A Muslim is likely to be elected as mayor of New York City, who's also a socialist.

00:00:08.000 We explain, and do you feel okay that the mayor of London and New York will both be Muslims?

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00:02:31.000 President Donald Trump just finished an incredible press conference out in NATO.

00:02:34.000 The guy doesn't sleep.

00:02:35.000 He's a total machine flying back from the Netherlands to America. 0.87

00:02:40.000 Literally, he did a quick turn.

00:02:41.000 He flew across the Atlantic, didn't sleep, held meetings with all the world leaders.

00:02:47.000 A very, very successful NATO meeting.

00:02:51.000 Sometimes these NATO meetings can be very boring without news.

00:02:54.000 President Donald Trump was able to lock down more NATO funding, more NATO agreements, really positive relationships.

00:03:01.000 You can see these world leaders are starting to finally get the whole Trump thing.

00:03:06.000 When he first visited NATO a couple years ago, it was like so antagonistic.

00:03:11.000 It was so nasty.

00:03:14.000 And now they have finally acquiesced.

00:03:17.000 They have surrendered to the inevitable, which is a strong country and a strong West.

00:03:24.000 Our goal is to strengthen the West.

00:03:26.000 The West is best.

00:03:28.000 And what is the West exactly?

00:03:30.000 Well, the West is the best blend of reason and revelation.

00:03:33.000 As Harry Jaffa would say, it's the blend of the ideas of Athens and Jerusalem.

00:03:38.000 It's not simply just reason, but also a belief in the divine, that there is a God and we are not him.

00:03:44.000 We believe in separation of powers, private property, individual initiative, entrepreneurship.

00:03:49.000 We believe in strong families, protecting children.

00:03:53.000 We believe in borders.

00:03:55.000 We believe in freedom of speech.

00:03:56.000 The Western values that have made our civilization so great are under attack from within.

00:04:03.000 But we must be very clear about what we're standing for and what we want to try to see reinvigorated in this country.

00:04:10.000 The Ten Commandments are a pillar to what we should all live under morally.

00:04:16.000 We have the civil law, which is borders, strength domestically.

00:04:24.000 We want a police force, very basic things.

00:04:27.000 Men, not in female sports.

00:04:29.000 What's happening in New York City is an insurgency against the West.

00:04:34.000 Last night, as we have been covering it more and more, Zoran Mamdani, a 33-year-old, only two years older than me, guy not born in this country, just fine, came here legally, and he wants to become a U.S., I don't even know if he is, is he a fully naturalized U.S. citizen?

00:04:56.000 I think he is.

00:04:57.000 Again, that's not relevant.

00:04:59.000 He is?

00:04:59.000 Okay, he's fully naturalized, but he wasn't born here.

00:05:02.000 And Zoran Mamdani, became a citizen seven years ago, got it, is a Muslim, which is part of the story.

00:05:09.000 And I have been unafraid to point it out.

00:05:12.000 But most importantly, is that he is an anti-Western manifestation of the red-green axis.

00:05:21.000 It is a manifestation and a blend of the two forces that want to destabilize this country.

00:05:31.000 Now, of course, the media, they lose their mind anytime I say that Islam is not compatible with Western civilization.

00:05:38.000 But we have plenty to show for it.

00:05:40.000 I endorsed Zudi Jasser to run for Congress.

00:05:43.000 Abe Hamade is Muslim, and we endorsed him for Attorney General and did a lot of work for him.

00:05:49.000 It's partially about that.

00:05:51.000 But it is very clear that Mom Dani is wearing the costume to destroy the greatest, once greatest city, and the largest city in America.

00:06:04.000 And we must ask ourselves the question, and we have the courage to do this on our show.

00:06:08.000 Are you comfortable with both London and New York having Muslim mayors?

00:06:13.000 I'm sorry.

00:06:14.000 I think we should have a little bit of caution with that.

00:06:16.000 That doesn't feel right.

00:06:19.000 I don't need a chart.

00:06:20.000 I don't need a graph.

00:06:21.000 I don't need a peer-reviewed study.

00:06:23.000 There's something about having both London and New York, the two financial centers Of the West, of the Anglosphere, both have Muslim mayors, and lots of other cities as well.

00:06:38.000 Once Calgary and Rotterdam.

00:06:42.000 So we have to take a step back and say, how did we even get here?

00:06:46.000 And is it a good thing?

00:06:47.000 Some people say, oh, it makes no difference.

00:06:48.000 It's no difference that both London and New York have potential Muslim mayors.

00:06:53.000 I mean, one has Sadiq Khan, London, he is the mayor.

00:06:57.000 And then New York City, looks like Zoran is the favorite to become the mayor of New York.

00:07:01.000 And he is as bad as it gets.

00:07:02.000 He wants to globalize the intifada.

00:07:05.000 He wants to sanction Israel.

00:07:09.000 He's a legitimate anti-Semite, anti-Western. 0.65

00:07:12.000 He wants to have city-run groceries.

00:07:13.000 He wants to freeze the rent, build affordable housing, creating city-owned grocery stores, fair-free buses.

00:07:20.000 He wants to expand and protect gender-affirming care for all young people, which of course is at odds with his Islam.

00:07:27.000 But that's the point, is that the Islam is a means to the end of destruction of the West. 1.00

00:07:33.000 He wants to end all cooperation with immigration, custom, and enforcement, and ICE.

00:07:38.000 He wants to raise the minimum wage to $30 an hour.

00:07:41.000 And he wants to make New York City a LGBTQIA plus sanctuary city.

00:07:46.000 And you might say, how on earth is someone who is an Islamist, who is Shia Muslim, get along with the LGBT jihadis? 0.97

00:07:53.000 They both have in common, they hate us. 1.00

00:07:57.000 They hate you.

00:07:58.000 They hate what I articulated previously.

00:08:00.000 They hate Western civilization.

00:08:03.000 Put up on screen, 462, this is Zoran Kawami Mamdani.

00:08:08.000 Queer liberation means defund the police.

00:08:11.000 Now, how does this happen?

00:08:13.000 It happens because you become what you import.

00:08:19.000 You become what you allow into your country. 1.00

00:08:23.000 He's an intersectional monster.

00:08:26.000 He's the worst of all of the potential coalitions against us. 0.99

00:08:31.000 He's a radical communist, and he's unafraid to say that he wants to, he is, he leads with his Islam. 0.93

00:08:38.000 People say, oh, Charlie, the fact he's a Muslim means nothing. 0.61

00:08:42.000 It means something.

00:08:42.000 It doesn't mean everything.

00:08:44.000 To be clear, it means something.

00:08:45.000 It doesn't mean anything.

00:08:46.000 Everything.

00:08:47.000 Here is Zoran Mamdani saying, a Muslim belongs in City Hall. 1.00

00:08:55.000 He leads with his Islam. 0.96

00:08:58.000 Now, when I say, it's very interesting, when I say Christians belong in the White House, I get called a Christian nationalist and a dangerous fascist. 0.95

00:09:08.000 But when I notice that an Islamist says that Muslims belong in City Hall, it's perfectly fine. 1.00

00:09:18.000 He's called a, what does the New York Times say?

00:09:20.000 Let's see how they're covering this.

00:09:22.000 They say, actually, they printed before the results.

00:09:26.000 How did the Wall Street Journal do on this?

00:09:28.000 They also printed before the results.

00:09:31.000 But they say that this is a hopeful and amazing journey. 0.97

00:09:35.000 So when Christians want to run for office, we are terrible fascist Christian nationalists. 0.97

00:09:41.000 When Muslims want to do it, they're met with affection. 0.99

00:09:45.000 Play cut 395.

00:09:47.000 Alhamdulillah, there are a million Muslims in this city.

00:09:50.000 200,000 of us are registered to vote as Democrats.

00:09:54.000 In the last election, only 7% of us voted.

00:09:58.000 Now, I will not blame anyone because often it feels like there isn't much to vote for.

00:10:02.000 But this June 24th, with early voting starting tomorrow, it is an opportunity.

00:10:09.000 An opportunity for us to show that Muslims don't just belong in New York City, we also belong in City Hall.

00:10:16.000 He is talking to an Islamic audience, for those of you that can't see the visual, saying that we Muslims belong in City Hall.

00:10:22.000 Remember, Muslims do not believe in separation of mosque and state.

00:10:28.000 We as Christians have to try to convince other Christians to get involved in politics because we as Christians do not value power as an ultimate goal.

00:10:39.000 We don't.

00:10:40.000 We as Christians view truth, love, goodness, mercy, forgiveness, community, family, church, way above power.

00:10:47.000 In fact, we as Christians are actually really kind of afraid of power because we don't want it to be corrupted.

00:10:54.000 We don't want to use that power for bad aims or bad ills.

00:10:59.000 If you distill most of the Islamic texts, if you synthesize what Muslims believe, mainly, it's about power. 0.99

00:11:11.000 And don't take my word for it.

00:11:13.000 We as Christians believe the greatest man ever to live, the crucifix I have right here, Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, died as a suffering servant and showed us how to live and rose again from the dead, living a sinless life of turning the other cheek and forgiving your enemies.

00:11:27.000 And who's the greatest man they say ever live?

00:11:30.000 Was a desert warlord who married a nine-year-old.

00:11:34.000 Big difference, actually.

00:11:36.000 One is about conquering in power.

00:11:38.000 The other one is about that my kingdom is not of this world.

00:11:42.000 And you see that play out right now in the major power centers across the West.

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00:12:44.000 New York is a perfect example of many things.

00:12:46.000 It's a perfect example of so many different forces happening in our country.

00:12:50.000 And it goes to show that our debate around immigration is not just about the southern border.

00:12:57.000 Securing our southern border is very important and President Trump deserves heroes praise on a repeated and daily basis for what he has been able to do on the southern border.

00:13:08.000 No one is coming across the border.

00:13:10.000 Zero is the only number that President Trump puts up with on the southern border.

00:13:14.000 And he deserves so much praise for that and how quickly and effectively he's been able to do that.

00:13:19.000 But let's be honest, everybody, that issue, as long as President Trump or J.D. Vance are president, that issue is settled and solved.

00:13:27.000 This is not about a southern border issue.

00:13:30.000 It's about deportations, but it's actually about something even more immediate.

00:13:35.000 Mr. Zoran, Kawami Mamdani, he came here legally, and now he is a U.S. citizen.

00:13:45.000 Did we make the right choice?

00:13:47.000 It's time for us to have an honest and open conversation about this.

00:13:50.000 Was that a good move?

00:13:52.000 Is this guy currently trying to make America better?

00:13:56.000 Is he the best that we could possibly bring in?

00:13:59.000 Zoran Kawami Mamdani.

00:14:02.000 He wants to destroy New York City.

00:14:04.000 He literally wants to defund the police.

00:14:06.000 Every person that we naturalize as citizen in this country should come with the question, does this person make America better or worse?

00:14:13.000 And Mom Dani is a perfect example of worse. 1.00

00:14:17.000 Do we want more people in America named after African dictators?

00:14:21.000 Well, you can't choose your name, but it should make you press pause.

00:14:26.000 Is Mom Dani assimilating? 0.96

00:14:28.000 When he came to this country, is he assimilated to our values?

00:14:31.000 He's trying to globalize the intifada.

00:14:34.000 That's what he said.

00:14:35.000 We need to globalize the intifada, which means to globalize terrorism.

00:14:40.000 He wants to sanction the state of Israel.

00:14:42.000 He said that he will arrest Netanyahu if he comes to New York for a UN meeting.

00:14:49.000 His mom says, cut 475, quote, he is total DE, completely.

00:14:56.000 He's not Farangis at all.

00:14:57.000 Again, this is all like Indian talk. 0.99

00:15:00.000 He is very much us.

00:15:01.000 He's not American at all. 0.99

00:15:03.000 He was born in Uganda, raised between India and America.

00:15:07.000 He's at home in many places.

00:15:09.000 He thinks of himself as a Ugandan, as an Indian.

00:15:12.000 Nair told us during a recent visit to the capital.

00:15:14.000 So he's Indian, not Western. 0.88

00:15:17.000 Which is fine.

00:15:18.000 You have a right to be Indian.

00:15:19.000 You're trying to be the mayor of America's largest city.

00:15:22.000 I would like for you to be American.

00:15:24.000 You're trying to run America's largest metropolis.

00:15:29.000 It'd be good if you knew something about this place and you loved us.

00:15:33.000 This is not like the mayor of Kiakuk, Iowa.

00:15:38.000 It's not the mayor of Fort Collins, Colorado.

00:15:40.000 And I hope you guys don't have Islamists running those cities. 1.00

00:15:43.000 No, New York City is the beacon of the entire West.

00:15:48.000 You think of America, you think of New York City.

00:15:51.000 As John London said, it is the center of the world.

00:15:57.000 And they try to stop you from talking about this.

00:16:00.000 Again, last night, someone tried to stop me from talking to this on Twitter.

00:16:03.000 They said, oh, you're an Islamophobe.

00:16:04.000 It's like, this is thought-terminating cliche.

00:16:06.000 And I have voted for a Muslim before, Abe Hamade. 0.82

00:16:09.000 I've supported Muslim Abe Hamade.

00:16:10.000 I've endorsed Zudi Jazzi.

00:16:12.000 My primary care doctor is Muslim.

00:16:13.000 It has nothing to do with that.

00:16:16.000 I'm not even going to play that game.

00:16:19.000 And I got in a dispute with Jessica Tarlove, if you guys know who that is.

00:16:22.000 Whatever.

00:16:25.000 And you guys can read my response.

00:16:28.000 I thought my response was actually very good.

00:16:30.000 It was very thoughtful.

00:16:32.000 And I asked the question, what Western city, name it, has gotten better the more Islamic that it's become? 0.93

00:16:41.000 And one of the guys in the replies said, Doha.

00:16:45.000 Okay, that's not a Western city.

00:16:48.000 That is the capital of Qatar.

00:16:50.000 Another guy said, well, Abu Dhabi is really nice.

00:16:54.000 Again, that's in the Emirates.

00:16:57.000 And by the way, just so we know, Doha is getting less Muslim as they import more labor from Africa to go do the work of the ruling class of Qatar. 0.74

00:17:05.000 Is London better?

00:17:06.000 Is Paris better?

00:17:07.000 Is Amsterdam better?

00:17:09.000 Is Berlin better?

00:17:11.000 Is any one of these places in Europe?

00:17:13.000 And it's not a matter of being racist. 1.00

00:17:17.000 All that stuff is dumb. 0.98

00:17:18.000 I don't do that. 0.99

00:17:18.000 This is not 2015. 0.99

00:17:20.000 Your little weird voodoo mind trick doesn't work anymore. 0.98

00:17:23.000 You know, they used to do this little mentalist campaign where they come up to you and they could just say like a bunch of magic words.

00:17:30.000 It's like the Harry Potter thing.

00:17:33.000 They could just kind of do a little magic warp.

00:17:35.000 And I like paralyze.

00:17:36.000 It doesn't work that way anymore. 0.98

00:17:37.000 Ooh, you're an Islamophobic. 0.92

00:17:38.000 Okay, I'll stop talking. 0.97

00:17:39.000 Yep, that doesn't work.

00:17:40.000 Okay.

00:17:40.000 Trump destroyed that entire paradigm.

00:17:42.000 Thank you, Donald Trump.

00:17:44.000 I want to know an answer to my question without you saying a name.

00:17:49.000 Because from Chank to Hassan, Jessica Tarlov, they all just either insult my appearance. 0.97

00:17:55.000 Wow, great.

00:17:55.000 That's unique.

00:17:56.000 Or they try to say I'm a bigot or I'm a Slavophobe.

00:17:59.000 Without your little words, can you tell me, is London better?

00:18:03.000 Is Amsterdam better?

00:18:04.000 Is Paris better?

00:18:05.000 Is New York City better?

00:18:07.000 Why are they not better?

00:18:09.000 Oh, okay.

00:18:10.000 So then why would we elect the people that are not making that city better to be mayor of that city?

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00:19:21.000 Okay, joining us now is Senator Eric Schmidt.

00:19:24.000 He's trolling me with that Cardinals hat.

00:19:26.000 Unfortunately, the Cardinals are up to nothing on the Cubs.

00:19:29.000 He knows it, you see, but we're still ahead in the NL Central for now.

00:19:33.000 2F games, we're closing.

00:19:35.000 Closing fast.

00:19:36.000 I hate to say it, but it looks like the Cubs are in a little bit of a slump.

00:19:39.000 But hey, that was a great.

00:19:41.000 I don't know if you saw the game.

00:19:42.000 It was a high-scoring, incredible game yesterday.

00:19:46.000 And anyway, we'll see what happens.

00:19:49.000 Yeah, I might get to a game at Wrigley, Cards Cubs, in September.

00:19:54.000 That's my hope.

00:19:54.000 We'll see.

00:19:56.000 If I'm around, you got to let me know.

00:19:58.000 That'll be a treat.

00:20:00.000 Have you ever been to a game at Wrigley?

00:20:01.000 There's no experience.

00:20:03.000 It's the best.

00:20:03.000 Oh, yeah.

00:20:04.000 No, no.

00:20:05.000 When I was in, especially in law school, started going up there with my buddies.

00:20:11.000 It's not a long drive.

00:20:11.000 It's a four-hour drive from St. Louis to Chicago, and it's been a rivalry.

00:20:14.000 It's been around a long time.

00:20:15.000 So we had a blast.

00:20:16.000 Anytime we were Wrigley, we had a blast.

00:20:18.000 But as I told you, all my material that I would taunt fans with about not winning a World Series since before television and radio, it all went out the window in 2016.

00:20:26.000 So I got to come up with some new stuff.

00:20:29.000 You got to get some new material.

00:20:31.000 And by the way, we'd do the self-deprecation for you.

00:20:35.000 So, Senator, NATO was really something to me to watch this.

00:20:39.000 We haven't covered this a lot yet on the show.

00:20:41.000 I feel as if the whole energy has changed.

00:20:44.000 When President Trump went to NATO in 17, 18, 19, it was adversarial.

00:20:48.000 It was nasty.

00:20:48.000 It was, how do we get out of this?

00:20:50.000 How do we kind of get rid of this filth, Donald Trump?

00:20:54.000 Now it feels like there's a respect, there's an awe, there's an aura.

00:20:58.000 Your analysis, Senator Schmidt, of just the vibe shift that we're seeing at NATO the last couple of days.

00:21:03.000 Yeah, I think you look back at that election that President Trump won last November.

00:21:08.000 It's hard to overstate how significant it was on so many different fronts, right?

00:21:13.000 You've got a closing of our border now, which has been very important, but also the realization among especially Europeans that this wasn't some fluke thing.

00:21:20.000 This is actually where the American people are, that we want to have America-first foreign policy that takes into account the core interests of the United States of America, which is principally the homeland.

00:21:30.000 And of course, communist China.

00:21:31.000 That's the real 21st century competition, and that Europe needs to step up in a much more meaningful way.

00:21:37.000 So when he was saying those things, you know, in 17 and 18, there was eye rolls or a lot of venom that kind of came his way.

00:21:44.000 And now there's sort of an acknowledgement that that's actually kind of a real thing.

00:21:48.000 In fact, I went to Munich.

00:21:49.000 I went to the Munich Security Conference in February to be America First Conservative delivering that message because so many other senators go there and they tell these Europeans what they want to hear and not the truth.

00:22:01.000 And so the truth was you have to step up.

00:22:04.000 This whole idea that we're subsidizing your social welfare programs and there was never an adjustment after the end of the Cold War is ridiculous.

00:22:11.000 And this isn't a fluke.

00:22:13.000 This is kind of where we're at now.

00:22:14.000 And I was one of the, and then J.D. Vance, of course, gave the speech.

00:22:18.000 I was one of like three people standing and clapping when he, you know, excoriated them over their violations of free speech and those ideals that they want to lecture everybody about.

00:22:26.000 So I do think what you saw today, the reception of President Trump there, and including the Secretary General and some of the compliments he was making, is an acknowledgement of the Europeans that the Americans are serious about, you know, this burden sharing idea that they dismissed for so long.

00:22:43.000 And if they actually get to 5% of their GDP, and not just a percentage, Charlie, but actually munitions.

00:22:48.000 Percentages of GDP don't win wars.

00:22:51.000 Guns and bullets do.

00:22:52.000 The problem with Europe is they've seen a real deindustrialization, including Germany, which is a big problem for them.

00:22:58.000 So our defense industry has been kind of atrophied to some degree.

00:23:01.000 We're trying to fix all that with President Trump, but theirs is to a much larger degree.

00:23:05.000 But this is at least a good step for them to acknowledge that's where they need to be, and we just need to hold them accountable to that.

00:23:10.000 Yeah, and so, and Senator, the vibe shift is good for Europe.

00:23:15.000 I mean, we want Europe to actually have a stake in their own defense.

00:23:19.000 We don't want, you know, you never want a continent freeloading on another continent for their defense.

00:23:26.000 It actually misses up, it messes up the incentive structure.

00:23:28.000 For example, they're like, oh, if America's paying for it, then this Russia-Ukraine war can keep on going.

00:23:33.000 This is very basic incentives when it comes to foreign policy.

00:23:37.000 It's good for us and it's good for them.

00:23:39.000 Yeah.

00:23:40.000 And in fact, just to kind of put this in perspective, if they actually spent as much on their defense as we do, it would free up Charlie about $330 billion every year, every year for us to focus on what are our core national interests.

00:23:55.000 And that has to be the vast expanse of the Pacific and, you know, rising China, right? 0.77

00:23:59.000 It isn't to say that Europe isn't relevant, but the truth is our biggest threat isn't coming from that side of the world. 1.00

00:24:04.000 Our biggest threat potentially comes from China. 0.99

00:24:07.000 And we have to be, you know, because if you have a strained, if you believe in scarcity, like I do, if you have a strained industrial base, if you're building a bunch of tanks for a land war in Europe, you're not building as many long-range fires in the Pacific that you need.

00:24:21.000 So these are the kind of like decisions that we need to be able to pivot that for too long, like I said, there was no adjustment.

00:24:28.000 No president wanted to go over there and tell the Europeans this.

00:24:30.000 It's intoxicating.

00:24:31.000 You go over there.

00:24:32.000 They want to, you know, they shower you.

00:24:33.000 And I didn't want to go over there for that.

00:24:35.000 I just wanted to say, look, I'm an American.

00:24:36.000 I'm from the Midwest.

00:24:38.000 Here's how we see it.

00:24:39.000 You guys need to step up.

00:24:40.000 But I think President Trump's victory in November made that very real for them.

00:24:45.000 And I'm glad to see that they're saying the things they're saying today.

00:24:48.000 So now I want to shift a little domestically here.

00:24:51.000 I know you have some very strong opinions on the big, beautiful bill and how it's proceeding.

00:24:56.000 What do you think on timeline?

00:24:58.000 And has anything significantly changed in the midst of all of these negotiations?

00:25:04.000 Yeah, so to think of it this way, we'll have another lunch here in a half hour, get some more updates.

00:25:09.000 The process that on the Senate side, there's something called the birdbath, meaning it has to be related to budget issues and not purely policy.

00:25:16.000 So some things get bounced, some things go back in.

00:25:19.000 For example, the parliamentarian bounced this illegal immigrants can't get snap benefits, but really it was because of the way it was drafted coming over from the House.

00:25:27.000 So the hope is that we change that and that goes back in.

00:25:30.000 So there's some of that stuff that just is like moving parts that will get fixed.

00:25:34.000 But there's still, you know, some things we need to work out.

00:25:36.000 This salt thing, I mean, I've talked about it on your show.

00:25:39.000 I don't know why we'd be subsidizing J.B. Pritzer and Gavin Newsom's bad ideas to the extent that we are, but that's a negotiation.

00:25:46.000 The truth is, I think that we'll get that language, that text in the next day or two here in the Senate, and then the shot clock sort of starts.

00:25:55.000 We'll have a vote of Rama, and that could very well happen this weekend, and then we'll have a product to send over the House and hopefully be done.

00:26:02.000 That's sort of best case scenario.

00:26:03.000 But everybody's committed.

00:26:04.000 I will say, even though there are disagreements about where certain things should land, everybody's committed, I think, to delivering this bill because so many of President Trump's key priorities are in it.

00:26:15.000 I know that's where I'm at.

00:26:16.000 And I think we're going to get there.

00:26:18.000 Yeah.

00:26:18.000 And so what is then the Senate parliamentarian role?

00:26:22.000 There's been a lot of Twitter chatter about the Senate parliamentarian being kind of a tyrant.

00:26:28.000 And I know that's part of the birdbath.

00:26:30.000 And so are there any major campaign promises that our audience should expect that might be removed by the parliamentarian?

00:26:38.000 No, because the ones like, say, no tax on tips or no tax on overtime, those are purely tax.

00:26:44.000 Yeah, that's all purely tax issues.

00:26:46.000 When you get into some other things like, for example, kind of restraining, which I, by the way, would love to be able to do some of the nationwide injunction language that was in a House bill.

00:26:56.000 The House doesn't have to worry about those things, but when it comes over the Senate, it changes a little bit.

00:27:00.000 Like that's probably going to get bounced and stay out.

00:27:04.000 We should still do something about it, but it won't be in the reconciliation, which is kind of a unique creature.

00:27:11.000 After Richard Nixon was impounding a lot of money in the 70s, Congress said, look, we want to kind of restrain some of that and we're going to have a more efficient way to actually do this kind of reconciliation process, but you can only do it if you've got a majority in the House and Senate and the White House.

00:27:28.000 And that's where we're at.

00:27:29.000 That's why it only takes 51 votes here in the Senate as opposed to the normal 60. So we want to take advantage of that.

00:27:35.000 But of course, we've got to make sure we can only lose a few people on these issues.

00:27:39.000 And that's kind of where the negotiation goes.

00:27:40.000 And JD, you know, if we've got 50 votes, JD can break the tie, but we've got to hold everybody but three on this stuff.

00:27:48.000 Help me understand why any part of Joe Biden's green news scam still exists in this bill.

00:27:54.000 Why not all of it?

00:27:55.000 I mean, what is, can you, can you steel man that argument for me?

00:28:01.000 I mean, let me play.

00:28:02.000 Yeah, this is not my, I'm fine with getting rid of all of it.

00:28:05.000 That's what I advocate for.

00:28:06.000 I want to find as much savings as we can by also delivering on President Trump's message.

00:28:10.000 So he put me in like the Senate conservative camp on this stuff.

00:28:13.000 But there are some people who would argue that if you're going to get rid of them, you want to wind them down over a period of time because there have been certain investments that have been made.

00:28:23.000 The problem with that, Charlie, though, is some of those same folks want to extend the life long enough past 2028.

00:28:32.000 And you can imagine why they would because they want to resuscitate it if for some reason the Democrats are ever back in charge.

00:28:38.000 And so I do think it's an opportunity for us to end the green new scam and a lot of the things that are just totally inefficient that make us more vulnerable. 0.97

00:28:48.000 Honestly, they're not healthy for the grid.

00:28:51.000 We're actually having a hearing in the Judiciary Committee this week about how China has been trying to influence U.S. energy policy to make it less resilient.

00:29:02.000 Meanwhile, they're building coal fire plants every week, and they want our grid to be more dependent on intermittent energy sources.

00:29:09.000 And so I think it's important that we get this done and wind those things down quickly.

00:29:14.000 Last question here, Senator.

00:29:15.000 There's a lot of focus on the southern border and, of course, how President Trump has hermetically sealed it.

00:29:21.000 He deserves such great credit for it.

00:29:23.000 What's happening in New York, I think, is a wake-up call right now for a lot of Americans of what we are doing on the legal immigration side.

00:29:30.000 If you come here and assimilate, all of us obviously support that.

00:29:33.000 But there's a problem, I think, on the legal immigration side.

00:29:35.000 Is there any appetite in the Senate conference to make changes to our legal immigration system as we have this very unique majority?

00:29:44.000 Yeah, so I've got a bill, actually, Charlie, that we want to make a priority that would expand the expedited review, which allows you to get rid of people who've been here.

00:29:53.000 Right now, you're kind of limited to people who've been here for two years or less for expedited removal.

00:29:58.000 We want to expand that, larger classes, longer period of time, so that more people can be deported quicker. 0.97

00:30:07.000 I think that would have a lot of support in our conference.

00:30:09.000 But let's not forget, too, kind of going back to the Big Beautiful Bill, there's funding in here for more detention beds, more resources for mass deportations.

00:30:18.000 That's what we need.

00:30:19.000 And the reason why it's here, just like some of the defense priorities, is if we do it in the Big Beautiful Bill, Charlie, we front load that for the next three years.

00:30:27.000 The Democrats can't negotiate.

00:30:29.000 They can't hold that hostage when we do the normal appropriations process.

00:30:33.000 Typically, what they do is they'll hold hostage our immigration priorities and our defense priorities for massive social welfare spending.

00:30:40.000 So if we do that now in the Big Beautiful Bill, we don't have to negotiate with Democrats for our immigration policy and our enforcement because we'll already have the money dedicated to more beds, more ICE agents, things like that.

00:30:50.000 So that is another reason why the Big Beautiful Bill is so important because it will help us deliver on President Trump's message, which is if here's how we're going to deal with mass migration, we're going to deal with mass deportations.

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00:32:12.000 Senator, can you comment on the incredible accomplishment President Trump and his team the last couple weeks to keep us out of a permanent Middle East war, zero U.S. troops dead, while also preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon?

00:32:25.000 Senator.

00:32:26.000 Yeah, I think you and I were tracking this the same way is that, look, I'm a firm believer.

00:32:33.000 You got the camp of President Trump, Vice President Vance.

00:32:35.000 You put me in that camp.

00:32:36.000 I know you are sort of American realists, right?

00:32:38.000 For a long time, we've had this wandering foreign policy that the neolibs and neoconservatives were espousing that just felt like there was, we were involved in, we were, their idea was to be everywhere all at once all the time.

00:32:50.000 We can't do that.

00:32:51.000 And I think we should learn some lessons from the last 30 years.

00:32:54.000 And I can't, I mean, he, President Trump handled it exactly the right way and in a way that I think restores confidence in not only American strength, but restraint, right?

00:33:05.000 Not just strength, but restraint.

00:33:07.000 And those bunker buster bombs dropped from B2s, by the way, that took off from Missouri.

00:33:12.000 That's an incredible feat.

00:33:13.000 30 hours in the air.

00:33:14.000 Yeah.

00:33:15.000 And I've been in there.

00:33:16.000 These guys, it's just amazing.

00:33:17.000 The aircraft's amazing.

00:33:19.000 But to be able to do that and then drop those bunker busters on something the size of a desk from that altitude is amazing.

00:33:27.000 I talked to President Trump yesterday.

00:33:29.000 We talked about it and it's just amazing.

00:33:31.000 He's very proud of him.

00:33:33.000 But to be able to do that and then immediately pivot to peace, right?

00:33:38.000 Not to get, and he resisted a lot of calls from a lot of people in Washington to get further engaged, to have more entanglement there and the discipline that President Trump had to do what to deal with what something that was in the core national interest of the United States, very clearly limited, articulated, which was they can't have a nuclear weapon, but not to become like, you know, to have outside regime change or we're going to build a democracy in Iran, but to move away from that and get the parties together for a ceasefire.

00:34:06.000 He should win a Nobel Prize for it.

00:34:08.000 He certainly should get all the accolades, the right books about it, I think, someday.

00:34:12.000 But I think it's for those of us who've been longing for a leader who actually believes this, it was just, I think, an incredible accomplishment.

00:34:20.000 Yeah.

00:34:20.000 And so some people on Capitol Hill, and I'm not going to name the names, but some of your colleagues were calling for regime change, and he resisted that.

00:34:28.000 That is a failed old model of using American force for nation building.

00:34:33.000 If the Persian people want to rise up, we will be their biggest cheerleaders and their biggest moral advocates in non-military, non-interventionist ways. 0.73

00:34:42.000 You get in, you get out, and we're not going to involve ourselves into a permanent quagmire.

00:34:46.000 Senator, he almost created a third way.

00:34:48.000 It's not isolationism.

00:34:50.000 It's not interventionism.

00:34:51.000 It's the Trump way.

00:34:52.000 That's right.

00:34:53.000 And here's the thing.

00:34:54.000 And when I went to Munich, I tried to articulate this to reporters too, because what does this actually mean?

00:34:59.000 It means what are the core national interests of the United States?

00:35:03.000 We seek diplomacy first.

00:35:05.000 And if we have to, you use overwhelming force.

00:35:08.000 It's very kind of a Jacksonian model.

00:35:10.000 But again, a big departure from the worldview of a lot of people in this town.

00:35:16.000 I mean, I will tell you when my first two years up here, this is my third year, first two years up here, just some of the, like the disconnect of the conversations in Washington versus ones back home in Missouri was stark.

00:35:27.000 Every lunch, you know, we were talking about Ukraine and Ukraine funding.

00:35:31.000 Not one person in Missouri, and this is not an exaggeration, has ever come up to me and said, you know what, Eric, what I really want you to do is spend another $80 billion on Ukraine.

00:35:40.000 Not one, but that dominated everything here.

00:35:43.000 And I think, you know, there were those of us who believe there was a different way and that Europe should step up and we need to focus and we need to pivot and all those sorts of things.

00:35:52.000 But really, when you have a president like President Trump who started this transition, I think in 2016, when he won, and then now it's on full display and it works, it just brings more people along.

00:36:04.000 And that's a good thing.

00:36:05.000 We should welcome more people into this camp and move away from this failed foreign policy that, again, is wandering.

00:36:10.000 It's never ending.

00:36:12.000 There's always something more to get involved with.

00:36:14.000 And I think people were concerned about another protracted conflict in the Middle East that we get involved with.

00:36:19.000 And President Trump, I think, showed that kind of restraint after doing what he needed to do with the bunker busters to take out the nuclear program.

00:36:25.000 So it's a big success.

00:36:27.000 Meandering into the wilderness while our own country collapses.

00:36:30.000 Senator, thank you so much.

00:36:31.000 And I hope we don't get swept, GoCubs.

00:36:34.000 Thank you.

00:36:35.000 All right, buddy.

00:36:35.000 See ya.

00:36:36.000 Thank you.

00:36:37.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:38.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:41.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:36:42.000 God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 25, 2025

Will New York Be Conquered By The Red-Green Alliance?

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