The Charlie Kirk Show - July 16, 2022


Will Trump be Indicted? With Kash Patel and Vivek Ramaswamy


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Vivek Ramaswamy joins us to talk about how we can counter ESG and woke capital. Today's guest is the author of Nation of Victims and the Executive Chairman of Strive Asset Management, and the founder of Turning Point USA.

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00:00:03.000 How are we supposed to counter ESG and woke capital?
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00:01:44.000 We have a great guest with us right now.
00:01:47.000 He is an expert on really what's happening in the corporate space.
00:01:51.000 There's an entire corporate war happening that gets some coverage.
00:01:55.000 It gets a lot of coverage in the Wall Street Journal and CNBC, but it doesn't always get covered on political channels or on programs that are just kind of talking with the news of the day.
00:02:04.000 But if we do not stop this incredibly insidious campaign called ESG, we're going to have a corporate landscape that is not just not competitive, but it's almost like a social credit score for companies.
00:02:18.000 It's a little bit of a complicated topic, but it's incredibly important for our nation.
00:02:23.000 So joining us right now is Vivek Ramaswamy.
00:02:27.000 Vivek, welcome back to the program.
00:02:29.000 Good to see you, Charlie.
00:02:30.000 Doing great.
00:02:30.000 How are you doing?
00:02:31.000 And you are the author of Nation of Victims and the executive chairman of Strive Asset Management.
00:02:31.000 Thank you.
00:02:37.000 Vivek, can you walk us through what is ESG?
00:02:42.000 Yeah, that is a great question to ask because the proponents of this movement have made it impossibly difficult to actually define.
00:02:49.000 One of the things I've been doing is holding that movement to task for what it actually stands for.
00:02:54.000 So the short answer is it stands for environmental, social, and governance factors that are supposed to influence how capital is invested in the economy.
00:03:03.000 What does that mean?
00:03:04.000 It's anyone's guess, but what it has come to mean in practice is that there is one political end of the spectrum that is representing its Its views in corporate America using the investments of everyday Americans to do it.
00:03:16.000 So, I'll make it really specific for you.
00:03:18.000 What's basically happening is a small group of asset managers who pledge allegiance to this philosophy, ESG, firms like BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, three of the largest asset managers in the world right there, together managing over $20 trillion.
00:03:32.000 That's more than the GDP of the United States.
00:03:34.000 What they do is they aggregate the money of everyday citizens.
00:03:37.000 Probably many of the listeners of your program included in that.
00:03:40.000 Maybe you and I too.
00:03:41.000 And what they do is they take our money, but then they invest in monies in companies across corporate America and tell those companies that you have to abide by these climate goals, that you have to abide by these emissions caps, that you have to abide by these diversity, equity, inclusion standards, and racial quota systems in your boardrooms.
00:04:00.000 And if you don't, then we're going to fire you as CEO, then we're going to take seats on your board, then we're going to cut your pay.
00:04:07.000 And that's the lurking variable behind the woke capitalist epidemic, which is really the capital behind the scenes that's forcing companies through shareholder pressure to adopt these one-sided politicized agendas.
00:04:19.000 So there's a lot more to the story, but at a high level, Charlie, that's how just to kind of boil it all down.
00:04:25.000 So ESG is something that is supported by the World Economic Forum and by the Davos crowd.
00:04:33.000 And effectively, on its surface, it sounds really good: environmental, social, and corporate governance.
00:04:39.000 And I heard somebody in some clip recently, I was watching some advertisement, and it was really weird.
00:04:44.000 In the first 10 seconds, they said, We all know that business needs to play its role in trying to make the world a better place.
00:04:51.000 I said, That's weird.
00:04:52.000 I thought you're in the role to just sell products and kind of turn profits.
00:04:56.000 I didn't think of you as a social activism organization.
00:05:00.000 And it's kind of been this bifurcation of mission.
00:05:03.000 I believe because of cheap money policies and the hyper corporate influence in our government, these companies have so much time on their hands and extra money.
00:05:11.000 They're like, Oh, yeah, okay, we'll do $200 million towards this.
00:05:15.000 But it's even more insidious than that, isn't it?
00:05:18.000 Because I guess, yeah, please, your thoughts.
00:05:20.000 I was just because it is a lot more insidious than that.
00:05:22.000 I agree with you that easy money policies have played a role.
00:05:24.000 There's a lot of causes.
00:05:25.000 That's why I wrote my last book all about was woke ink.
00:05:27.000 But, you know, look, I think it's more insidious.
00:05:29.000 And this is what I want to point out: what's really happening here, Charlie, is that you have lurking state action behind the scene.
00:05:35.000 So, what the ESG movement has allowed, effectively, the progressive movement to do in this country is to allow government actors to do through the back door what they could not get done through the front door.
00:05:47.000 Let's take the Green New Deal, for example.
00:05:49.000 There was not enough political support to get the Green New Deal done through the front door of Congress.
00:05:55.000 So, what they did is they deputized companies like BlackRock.
00:05:59.000 Just like they do to big tech, by the way, but to force asset managers to enforce these values through the back door.
00:06:05.000 So, it is politics, but it's politics in the avatar of the free market.
00:06:11.000 And this is a threat to both capitalism and democracy, right?
00:06:14.000 A lot of Milton Friedmanites, and I'm sympathetic to this.
00:06:17.000 I agree with it to some extent, worry that this makes companies less effective.
00:06:21.000 I think that's definitely true.
00:06:22.000 I've seen that firsthand, and I have a concern about it.
00:06:25.000 But the real problem is that it is a threat to democracy.
00:06:29.000 And that's the part that the left especially misses, but the left and the right both miss.
00:06:33.000 Because what this says is the questions that we should be sorting out through free speech and open debate in the public square as citizens in a democracy, whatever we think those right answers are, we should sort them out through the political process.
00:06:45.000 We're instead working it out through force, using capital as a vehicle of force in the private sector to decide on one monolithic view of how to fight systemic racism or how to fight environmental challenges like global climate change by enforcing one orthodoxy and using capital as the vector to do it.
00:07:03.000 That's the real threat to democracy.
00:07:04.000 And this is, it's so interesting.
00:07:06.000 I mean, I grew up steeped in libertarian economic literature.
00:07:08.000 I learned a lot from it.
00:07:10.000 Don't agree with a lot of it anymore.
00:07:11.000 I mean, the price system, all that stuff is fine.
00:07:13.000 It's fair.
00:07:14.000 You could read Von Mises, Human Action.
00:07:16.000 It's all interesting.
00:07:17.000 But never in any of their literature do they talk about how an economic climate could then actually have state-like power and totalitarian impulses.
00:07:28.000 I mean, this is more of a philosophical question, but it's a stunning new development, isn't it?
00:07:33.000 It's a uniquely 21st-century version of this problem.
00:07:36.000 And as I often say, I used to call myself a libertarian, too, Charlie.
00:07:38.000 I don't anymore.
00:07:40.000 Nor do I. Part of the reason why is that the free market cannot fix what it is not free to fix.
00:07:46.000 Right now, what you have is lurking state action, the SEC, the Department of Labor, tilting the scales of what companies can and can't do.
00:07:55.000 And then when companies then respond to those regulations by enforcing a one-sided agenda, using market power and market force to do it, the other side says, hey, you guys wanted free market capitalism all along.
00:08:06.000 This isn't the government delivering those solutions.
00:08:09.000 It's the ESG movement.
00:08:10.000 It's the large asset managers.
00:08:12.000 It's the capitalists, the guys that the Republicans wanted to support all along.
00:08:12.000 It's BlackRock.
00:08:16.000 And I think the thing that's missed is that they have taken on the avatar of capitalism itself as the vehicle for pushing a political agenda, even though state action is the lurking demon behind the scenes.
00:08:27.000 And I think they dupe both sides into submission.
00:08:30.000 See, liberals used to be skeptical of corporate power.
00:08:33.000 Think about Citizens United, et cetera, 10, 15 years ago, 12 years ago.
00:08:36.000 Occupy Wall Street.
00:08:38.000 Occupy Wall Street.
00:08:39.000 They used to be skeptical of corporate power, but what they said is, no, no, no, don't worry about it, guys.
00:08:42.000 We're going to use that corporate power to advance the neo-progressive identity politic climate change obsessed philosophy that you guys love. 0.86
00:08:49.000 So you shut up. 0.81
00:08:50.000 But to the Republicans, you shut up too, because you guys always said the free market can do no wrong. 0.98
00:08:55.000 Well, guess what?
00:08:56.000 Both sides are duped into submission.
00:08:58.000 And we see the rise of this new leviathan that is far more powerful than what Hobbes envisioned, than what George Washington envisioned, than what Ronald Reagan or Milton Friedman envisioned.
00:09:07.000 This is a uniquely 21st century problem that demands new dogmas to address this uniquely modern demon.
00:09:15.000 And I think that that's a big part of what I've been focused on is providing clarity to say we can't just recite slogans we memorized in 1980 when the unique problem we face is not just government, but a unique hybrid of government and the market that together can do what neither one can do on its own.
00:09:28.000 That's the real threat that the conservative movement needs to wake up to.
00:09:31.000 Yeah, I don't think Jack Welch hated America.
00:09:33.000 I do think Jeffrey Ymelt hates America.
00:09:35.000 Big difference.
00:09:36.000 I mean, and that's just one example.
00:09:40.000 And to your Hobbes point, yeah, I mean, people can be very nasty, brutish, and short to one another.
00:09:46.000 And that can infect corporate America as well.
00:09:49.000 And something I want to explore with you with this new dogma is what do we go about doing to solve this?
00:09:56.000 Because it seems as if we're stuck in this paralysis.
00:09:58.000 Well, we don't like government and we don't like corporations.
00:10:00.000 So then what do we do to actually go about making this issue or mitigate this issue, I guess you could say. 1.00
00:10:09.000 But I just want to re-emphasize this, though, which is the wokies, they've always cared about power. 0.99
00:10:15.000 That is the postmodernist philosophical construct. 1.00
00:10:17.000 They only care about power dynamics.
00:10:19.000 And someone 20 years ago, either intentionally or unintentionally, realized they said, oh my goodness, the corporations are actually more powerful than the federal bureaucracy.
00:10:28.000 So if we can infiltrate and take over the corporations, it's running the whole country.
00:10:33.000 And it's one thing to take over the FBI and the CIA.
00:10:35.000 We're going to keep on doing that.
00:10:36.000 But to take over Google, to take over Goldman Sachs, now we really can make America in our image.
00:10:42.000 Yeah.
00:10:42.000 So look, I think that, you know, the issue here is that you have this waterfall of political accountability, all right?
00:10:50.000 We were talking about how the state is really using private companies to do through the back door what they couldn't do through the front door.
00:10:56.000 Back in 1980, the 1980s, the problem was they used to delegate it to the three-letter acronyms like you were citing before the break, right?
00:11:02.000 FBI, DOJ, you name it.
00:11:05.000 What's happened is back in 1980, this is what Ronald Reagan tried to fix, was the delegation of congressional lawmaking authority to this alphabet soup of the federal government, FBI, DOJ, SEC, FTC, FDA, FCC, the list goes on.
00:11:18.000 What we're seeing today is actually the governmental delegation of power to a new alphabet soup, G-O-O-G, F-B, B-L-K, GS, the kinds of AMZN, MSFT, the kinds of companies that actually are escalated from political accountability.
00:11:35.000 So the question is, how do we solve this problem, right?
00:11:37.000 You know, I've spent time writing books about this.
00:11:39.000 You talk about this on air.
00:11:40.000 Talking about it's fine.
00:11:41.000 I think seeing the problem with clear eyes is important.
00:11:43.000 How do we solve the problem?
00:11:44.000 And I think there are multiple categories.
00:11:46.000 There's no silver bullet.
00:11:48.000 I think there are legal solutions, right?
00:11:50.000 I think if people bring cases in court claiming state action when the government has goaded a private company to do something that the government couldn't do, there's actually really good Supreme Court doctrine.
00:11:59.000 And I know you like to go deep on this stuff so we can talk about some of the Supreme Court doctrines that say that if it is state action in disguise, then actually the Constitution still applies.
00:12:08.000 If they tell a big tech company to take down content that's First Amendment protected and the government told them to do it, turns out you can actually sue the big tech company as a state actor under theories of state action doctrines developed by the Supreme Court.
00:12:20.000 I think you can do something similar with what's going on with BlackRock and State Street and Vanguard with the ESG movement.
00:12:25.000 So there's this legal track that I think more people should pay attention to.
00:12:28.000 I think there's a lawmaking track that, I mean, I have pounded my head speaking to Republican lawmakers in both the Senate and as well as the House about this.
00:12:36.000 And none of them, you know, they all say they love it.
00:12:38.000 Very few go on to do anything about it.
00:12:39.000 I think that political belief should be considered to be added to the civil rights statutes as a protected class.
00:12:47.000 And I would have never said that 10 years ago, my old libertarian version of myself.
00:12:51.000 But what I've learned, Charlie, is that actually what happened is the civil rights statutes protecting classes on race, sex, sexual orientation, religion, national origin, what they did was they were expanded over the years to include claims like hostile workplace environments and harassment, which in turn started to interpret certain viewpoints as being discriminatory to those protected classes.
00:13:15.000 So actually, there were an interesting pair of cases.
00:13:18.000 You couldn't fire an employee at Whole Foods if they were wearing a BLM mask, but actually you couldn't not fire someone for wearing an all-lives matter mask. 0.62
00:13:26.000 Say what you will about the underlying philosophies.
00:13:28.000 It's actually the civil rights statutes and their expansive interpretations that created the very conditions for the rampant political discrimination we see in the private sector.
00:13:37.000 So I say that if you can't fire somebody or de-platform somebody because they're black or gay or Muslim or white or Christian or Jewish or whatever, then you should not be able to fire somebody or de-platform somebody.
00:13:48.000 Just because they're an outspoken conservative or an outspoken liberal, let's actually really treat these standards even-handedly.
00:13:54.000 Either we get rid of the protected classes altogether, which maybe I could get behind.
00:13:58.000 I certainly could have gotten behind, but I think it's not politically feasible, or you apply those standards even-handedly by adding political belief to the list, right?
00:14:05.000 So I think that's a conversation we ought to be having. 0.51
00:14:08.000 Yeah, I mean, the civil rights regime is just so messed up.
00:14:11.000 And Caldwell's book, Christopher Caldwell's Age of Entitlement, is the best book on this.
00:14:15.000 It's a profound piece of literature that talks about how the civil rights agenda is completely different than what people actually think it is.
00:14:22.000 It was different than what people thought they were getting.
00:14:25.000 And so talk just for a second here.
00:14:26.000 Do Republicans get the threat here or do they just kind of just roll over your thoughts?
00:14:32.000 I think you mostly don't get it, but we'll see if we can sort of guide them to focus in the right place.
00:14:37.000 I will tell you, though, Charlie, I have hung the jersey on that, forgetting about the legal and political solutions.
00:14:41.000 I think one of the most promising paths are actually market solutions.
00:14:44.000 So that's why I find it founded this firm that I'm running now, Strive Asset Management, competing directly against BlackRock, because it turns out that most Americans who actually have capital, who have savings in their account, hardworking people who actually have investment and buying power through hard work and their savings, don't want these values represented with their capital.
00:15:03.000 They would rather have their capital invested by asset managers exclusively to make products.
00:15:08.000 Yeah.
00:15:08.000 And so that competing, I think, is actually a much better thing.
00:15:10.000 This is what's so smart, right?
00:15:12.000 So, and it's not just everyday people.
00:15:13.000 For example, why doesn't the North Dakota Pension Fund invest in your firm and not in BlackRock?
00:15:19.000 That's when you're actually going to start to change things, right?
00:15:21.000 Is the pension funds funds are key?
00:15:23.000 Yeah, and that's a whole we could have an hour discussion about that.
00:15:25.000 It's such a broken system with managerial plans.
00:15:28.000 But the pension funds are what drive this because you have hundreds of billions of dollars.
00:15:32.000 Unless you're completely corrupt or know what you're doing, you're going to get a five to ten percent return, right?
00:15:36.000 Just by volume of the assets, you hire enough people that graduate from Princeton with mathematics degrees, you're going to figure it out.
00:15:42.000 But if you could get all of a sudden these red states to put their pension funds for their police, their teachers, their firefighters into an asset firm like Strive or whatever, anywhere, just buy municipal bonds.
00:15:52.000 Just don't have it go to BlackRock.
00:15:54.000 You help save the country.
00:15:55.000 All right, we're out of time.
00:15:55.000 Vivek Ramaswamy, thank you so much.
00:15:58.000 Terrific commentary, as always, one of the most important things happening in America that doesn't get enough attention.
00:16:02.000 Thank you so much.
00:16:03.000 Thank you.
00:16:06.000 With us right now is a friend of the program, Kash Patel, former DOD chief of staff and author of Plot Against the King.
00:16:13.000 Cash, welcome back to the program.
00:16:15.000 Hey, Charlie, thanks for having me.
00:16:16.000 Great to be with you.
00:16:17.000 So, what's going on with Durham?
00:16:19.000 Danchenko is standing trial in the fall.
00:16:22.000 What's the latest out of the Durham investigation?
00:16:25.000 Yeah, look, you know, he's prepping for trial.
00:16:27.000 You're correct.
00:16:27.000 He's going on trial in Virginia in the fall, I think, September, October.
00:16:31.000 And what prosecutors do and what I did as a former federal prosecutor is you issue trial subpoenas.
00:16:36.000 So the latest flurry: 30 witness trial subpoenas were issued by Danchenko.
00:16:41.000 Now, that's a big case when it comes to federal prosecutions.
00:16:45.000 Usually, you can tidy up a federal criminal prosecution with about 10 to 15 witnesses.
00:16:51.000 This is 2x that.
00:16:52.000 So he doesn't have to call every one of those, but he means to tell the court and the world that he's flying in witnesses from around the country and around the world to make his case against Danchenko.
00:17:02.000 And so hopefully, we'll get more information as we get closer to trial with the pretrial pleadings and motions that the defense and Durham will file.
00:17:11.000 And hopefully, Merrick Garland will allow John Durham to continue his work on other cases, even though I've heard rumblings of otherwise.
00:17:19.000 Six years, Cash.
00:17:20.000 It's been six years since the actions of Peter Struckstroke Smirk and Lisa Page, the lover, the adulterers, have been sending those text messages in the summer of 2016 saying they had a secret plan, a backup plan, an insurance policy, if you will.
00:17:34.000 Where are the other indictments, Cash?
00:17:36.000 My patient is running thin.
00:17:39.000 As you know, it's kind of a recurring theme.
00:17:41.000 What's going on here?
00:17:42.000 I know your patience is running thin.
00:17:44.000 And now we're to the point where mine is too, which is kind of upset.
00:17:47.000 That's not good, everybody.
00:17:48.000 I know that's not good.
00:17:50.000 But, you know, I thought there was going to be two more FBI agents indicted this summer.
00:17:54.000 That seemed like the track that John Durham was on.
00:17:58.000 And look, I'm, you know, I might be proven wrong by the end of the summer, but it looks like Merrick Garland is weighing in and not astute.
00:18:05.000 He's being astute.
00:18:06.000 He's not saying don't bring prosecutions.
00:18:09.000 He's, I've heard he's coming in to say it's too close to the election, so you got to hold powder, right?
00:18:15.000 Which is this DOJ is hypocrisy at its height.
00:18:17.000 It's always don't hold powder when it's you know for Hillary Clinton, but you know, fire away if it's against Donald Trump.
00:18:24.000 And, you know, that's just a two-tier system of justice, which I was proud to be a member of.
00:18:29.000 And now I could not be more ashamed to have ever been a federal prosecutor, DOJ.
00:18:32.000 Yeah, Peter Navarro, Steve Bannon, stands trial, I think, Monday for his contempt of Congress.
00:18:37.000 Is that too close to the election, Attorney General Merrick Garland?
00:18:40.000 No, of course not.
00:18:41.000 It's actually helpful.
00:18:42.000 So I'm going to actually just take a little bit of a tangent here.
00:18:45.000 It's pure speculation, but do you think that Donald Trump might be indicted by the Department of Justice?
00:18:51.000 No.
00:18:52.000 Why?
00:18:53.000 Zero chance.
00:18:54.000 Zero chance.
00:18:55.000 Okay, tell me why.
00:18:56.000 Zero chance.
00:18:56.000 I'm not saying he did anything wrong.
00:18:58.000 No, I'm just.
00:18:59.000 No, I get what you're saying.
00:19:00.000 Yeah.
00:19:00.000 I understand.
00:19:01.000 That's a question a lot of people are asking me on nonstop on Truth Social.
00:19:05.000 There's no, there's no, but this is what the January 6th Committee has been working for.
00:19:08.000 And you know this better than anyone.
00:19:10.000 They want to get a set of impeachment charges, which are ultimately lead to a conviction in the Senate so Donald Trump can never hold office again.
00:19:17.000 That's their goal.
00:19:18.000 Their side out for the publicity's sake is: let's gin up in the media possible charges, which is being led by Adam Schiff about this, you know, so-called insurrection.
00:19:29.000 But it's legally, it's a legal impossibility.
00:19:31.000 Donald Trump authorized, and I was there in the Oval Office as chief of staff, 20,000 National Guards, men and women two days before the January 6th events.
00:19:39.000 It is a legal impossibility for the commander-in-chief to authorize the security of the Capitol and at the same time lead an insurrection.
00:19:46.000 That's why I'm at zero.
00:19:48.000 Yeah, I just'm very worried about DC jury pools and errant prosecutors, right?
00:19:54.000 And so it's very telling.
00:19:57.000 So to kind of combine all that together, I mean, just I'm kind of going back to Durham.
00:20:01.000 That was a little bit of a tangent.
00:20:03.000 Do you think we're going to see something soon, or is it just going to kind of be more of the same?
00:20:07.000 Or at this point, what crumbs are you seeing that could lead us towards something significant?
00:20:12.000 The crumbs are, you know, the trail he left during the prosecution.
00:20:16.000 I know the result was terrible in the suspens case, but the reason that we created DurhamWatch.com, it's a database for documents that for anyone that's interested.
00:20:25.000 We put all the January 6th documents up there on the Jan 6 vault, all the government documents from the government agencies themselves that they won't show you, all the Durham pleadings.
00:20:33.000 And I think we'll get a flurry of action similarly in the Dan Chenko case as we get closer.
00:20:38.000 And we'll get the public will at least be educated on the actions of Christopher Steele, even more so, Hillary Clinton and her campaign, Fusion GPS, and other, you know, I call them criminals at the FBI, McCabe, Comey, Strzok, Finn, Glenn Simpson over at Fusion GPS.
00:20:53.000 So, you know, the public has owed its, the public is owed accountability in the form of judicial indictments and convictions.
00:21:00.000 And at least the only thing we can provide outside of government is the actual paperwork.
00:21:04.000 And we're going to continue to put it up for free at durhamwatch.com.
00:21:08.000 It's just the least we could do.
00:21:10.000 Yeah, I mean, people are becoming cynical, and cynicism is not good.
00:21:15.000 You cannot live in a country for long at peace if people are cynical.
00:21:20.000 They believe, I mean, you see what's happening.
00:21:22.000 I mean, I don't know if Hunter Biden will ever be held accountable.
00:21:26.000 I have my doubts.
00:21:27.000 I think part of it is just try to try a way to keep Joe Biden controlled.
00:21:32.000 But you have just kind of these, quite honestly, paper indictments.
00:21:37.000 I mean, it's just kind of just little stuff.
00:21:38.000 It's like paperwork compared to the massive conspiracy that existed.
00:21:44.000 And I am skeptical that justice is ever going to be administered the way it should.
00:21:49.000 I want to ask you about some foreign policy stuff, Cash, with your experience.
00:21:53.000 You're the former chief of staff to the Department of Defense.
00:21:56.000 So Joe Biden is in Saudi Arabia right now.
00:21:59.000 He gave a fist bump, I guess, to Mohammed bin Salman, which is just a joke.
00:22:04.000 So he said this is because of COVID.
00:22:07.000 Look, everything in the Middle East is very murky and gray.
00:22:13.000 What do you think, Cash, is the proper approach to American foreign policy in the Middle East? 0.85
00:22:19.000 It can get, it seems like we can get so ensnarled in this.
00:22:22.000 What are we missing from Joe Biden's visit to Saudi Arabia?
00:22:26.000 The biggest problem is Joe Biden is putting us back into a Middle East posture from the 90s and the Persian Gulf stages.
00:22:31.000 The problem is he started off by annihilating American energy independence that Donald Trump started.
00:22:36.000 And that's what you see at the pump every day.
00:22:38.000 You don't have to be an oil tycoon to figure this stuff out.
00:22:42.000 If gas is costing seven bucks a gallon and it's a direct result of Joe Biden shutting down the Keystone Pipeline, the XL pipeline, and turning on Nord Stream 2, which was built by Russia to give Germany, our biggest ally, basically free energy and access to data, these have direct consequences.
00:22:59.000 And when he can't take it anymore over here in America, he, with the hypocrite that he is, after he called MBS a pariah after the Jamal Khashoggi murder, and you know, I remember that familiar.
00:23:10.000 I got sent to Riyadh, you know, the next week after that happened to figure out what was going down over there. 0.89
00:23:15.000 And now everyone in the mainstream media is quiet about Jamal Khashoggi because they are hoping that Biden goes over to MBS and begs for oil for America.
00:23:24.000 And here's what's going to happen.
00:23:25.000 MBS is in the driver's seat because of our failed diplomacy.
00:23:29.000 We are not going to get any cheap gas or oil from MBS.
00:23:32.000 He is going to get demands from the rest of the world and probably Russia and Syria, who he's had their dictators visit his country to the detriment of America. 0.69
00:23:43.000 And we haven't even touched upon how damaging this is when it comes to Iran and their rise in the world through the Middle East powers. 0.86
00:23:51.000 Look, again, Saudi Arabia has plenty of skeletons in their closet, to say the least, probably behind 9-11, incredibly corrupt through and through. 0.98
00:23:59.000 The question, operative question always seems to be, what's best for your country? 0.80
00:24:03.000 And if you keep Saudi Arabia in a neutral position, it could harbor energy production towards China. 0.54
00:24:10.000 It certainly puts the Iranians on defense.
00:24:13.000 And so, but it seems as if there is this, there's this Washington, D.C. consensus traditionally against Saudi Arabia all the time.
00:24:21.000 And now it just seems like all that has really calmed down.
00:24:24.000 And Joe Biden has no leverage whatsoever in these conversations, zero, largely because of ideology.
00:24:31.000 So, Cash, I want to ask you, there's a lot of elections happening right now.
00:24:35.000 What races are you looking at?
00:24:36.000 What candidates are you behind?
00:24:38.000 Where do you think the America First Agenda has the best chance of success in the kind of, as we're ending the primary season right now?
00:24:44.000 Well, let's start with the great state of Arizona.
00:24:46.000 Of course, I'm a huge champion and proponent of Kerry Lake, who I've endorsed, my first gubernatorial endorsement.
00:24:53.000 I think she's America First candidate, understands border security and the need for national security priorities and putting American citizens first. 0.98
00:25:01.000 Similarly, I endorse Blake Masters.
00:25:03.000 He's going to be the next senator of Arizona.
00:25:04.000 We're going to flip that seat with the drive and leadership of Donald Trump to make him his candidacy front and center, just like he did out west in my home state of Nevada to Adam Laxalt.
00:25:13.000 We're going to do similar out west.
00:25:15.000 We're going to take the West back and we're going to take America back while we do that because we have people who care about the border, people who care about economics, and people who care about tramping down illegal narcotics that are killing our youth at record numbers due to Chinese fentanyl flowing in from Mexico.
00:25:32.000 And I know Arizona was excited to have President Trump here, but he had to push it a week because of the loss of his passing of his ex-wife.
00:25:41.000 So it's very sad.
00:25:43.000 And he's doing okay.
00:25:45.000 And like the trooper that he is, he's just going to push it a few days and he'll be out west with us in a week or so.
00:25:53.000 It's actually a better date to drive a late uptick for Blake and the other endorsed candidates, as you mentioned.
00:26:02.000 And then he'll be at our student action summit the next day.
00:26:05.000 So he hates cancer people.
00:26:07.000 That's great.
00:26:08.000 Family comes first.
00:26:09.000 It's tragic what happened.
00:26:10.000 Kash Patel, thank you so much.
00:26:12.000 Deeply appreciate it.
00:26:13.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:26:14.000 Have a good one.
00:26:18.000 We have been telling you for some time that we believe that there is the new COVID strain that is going to be used as the surprise heading into the midterms.
00:26:30.000 Let's play Cut 84, CBS with Nora O'Donnell, the new BA.4 and BA.5 variant, play cut 84.
00:26:38.000 The urgency is due to the explosive spread of the latest Omicron variants, BA4 and BA5, now responsible for more than 80% of all new COVID cases.
00:26:48.000 BA4 and BA5 are our most immune-evading variants yet.
00:26:54.000 The virus is mutating so quickly and rapidly.
00:26:57.000 Is changing so dramatically that your immune system will have a harder time fighting off this current wave.
00:27:05.000 Do the vaccines have a negative efficacy?
00:27:09.000 Why aren't they still talking about therapeutics?
00:27:12.000 Azithromycin, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, intravenous therapy.
00:27:18.000 Go to cut 82 about how the deaths are mounting with BA5, PlayCut 82.
00:27:26.000 We are experiencing about 300 to 350 deaths a day.
00:27:30.000 That is unacceptable.
00:27:31.000 It's too high.
00:27:33.000 And we will continue to use the infrastructure we have built and the tools we have to lower suffering and death as we manage BA5.
00:27:41.000 What tools exactly do you have available?
00:27:44.000 Look, all the vaccine makers are now saying their Omicron updated jabs have great efficacy, but we know they don't.
00:27:51.000 In fact, Anthony Fauci has even admitted that they don't work very well.
00:27:56.000 PlayCut 70.
00:27:58.000 One of the things that's clear from the data, that even though vaccines, because of the high degree of transmissibility of this virus, don't protect overly well, as it were, against infection.
00:28:11.000 Don't infect, don't protect overly well.
00:28:14.000 Doesn't sound like terrific grammar.
00:28:18.000 The coronavirus mutates quickly.
00:28:21.000 And is anyone saying the vaccinated population versus the unvaccinated population?
00:28:25.000 So is the vaccine a treatment?
00:28:27.000 If it's a treatment, then why does it get liability protection against adverse events and effects?
00:28:32.000 If it doesn't protect against infection, it's the first vaccine that doesn't have the sort of guarantee of 90, 95, 99% protection against infection.
00:28:45.000 Stunning official Canadian data now shows vaccines raise the risk of death from COVID.
00:28:51.000 Vaccinated people are now more likely to be hospitalized or die from COVID, even after adjusting for the fact they're older than the unvaccinated.
00:28:59.000 In May, the most recent months for which figures are available, only 9% of COVID deaths and 14% of hospital admissions in Manitoba occurred among unvaccinated people, even though they're 17% of the population.
00:29:10.000 Manitoba, which has about 1.4 million residents, also provides figures that are adjusted for the fact that vaccinated and boosted people tend to be older.
00:29:18.000 Those show that in May, vaccinated but unboosted people were 50% more likely to be hospitalized or die of COVID than unvaccinated people.
00:29:28.000 People who had received boosters had roughly the same risk of hospitalization or death as the unvaccinated.
00:29:37.000 This is from Alex Berenson, Manitoba, Canadian data, May 1st through May 31st.
00:29:43.000 And yet we're still kicking people out of the military for not getting this gene-altering therapy that they call a vaccine, even though Canadian data shows that they actually might raise the risk of death from COVID, which, by the way, is perfectly consistent with the predictions made by Dr. Peter McCullough, by Dr. Robert Malone, and Dr. Zelenko.
00:30:07.000 May he rest in peace.
00:30:10.000 Remember, Democrats need crisis and they need emergencies.
00:30:13.000 Is this about health or is this about control?
00:30:16.000 Is this about an emergency to give an excuse for mass mail and ballots?
00:30:21.000 Is this about having an excuse to be able to get a midterm push?
00:30:30.000 Thankfully, a judge just blocked the Air Force discipline over vaccine objections.
00:30:35.000 But Republicans are too busy wringing their hands.
00:30:37.000 To kind of tie this all together from last week, what if Republican governors said, if you're fired by the federal government or discharged from the military based on vaccination status, we'll happily hire you in the Arizona Border Patrol or in the South Dakota National Guard.
00:30:51.000 Why are Republican governors going along with this?
00:30:54.000 Are they purchased by Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, and Johnson ⁇ Johnson?
00:30:58.000 It's a fair question.
00:30:59.000 Don't fall for it.
00:31:01.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
00:31:03.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:31:06.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:31:07.000 God bless.
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