00:01:56.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:51.000And for some people that are tuning in for the first time, we have you guys on monthly periodically to kind of cover corporate wokeism, this idea of how consumers need to be more aware and alert of where they buy their products and where they allocate their capital.
00:03:07.000And your organization, Second Vote, is the most effective and important organization in actually rating, detailing, and empowering consumers to be able to make informed decisions when it comes to these things.
00:03:48.000Well, I think Larry Fink is one of the most dangerous people in the world.
00:03:55.000His fund has a lot of assets under management, trillions of dollars, and he's a real voice for the unreasonable.
00:04:06.000He has attached himself to a lot of the progressive radical left policies.
00:04:13.000And as a consequence, he has all this money to use as leverage.
00:04:18.000And BlackRock invests in other corporations, and they're pushing down their ideology onto these corporations that they buy stock in.
00:04:26.000So, yeah, Larry Fink, BlackRock, they've really bought into the environmental extremism, the non-scientific environmentalism.
00:04:35.000And, you know, when he speaks, unfortunately, he's got power to make people listen whether they wish to or not.
00:04:42.000I guess it's the antithesis of that old financial services company that used to have commercials on TV where they'd speak and everybody in the room would stop to listen.
00:04:56.000But Larry Fink really believes in stakeholder capitalism, not shareholder capitalism.
00:05:01.000And that means that the focus of investing through anything owned by BlackRock focuses not on the shareholder who puts their money in.
00:05:10.000He believes that he enjoys the right to take your profits and place them anywhere he cares to.
00:05:15.000And that unfortunately is progressive left organizations.
00:05:19.000And Charlie, we really appreciate you giving us an opportunity to tell this story to people around the country that listen to you, which you have a big listening audience, thank goodness.
00:05:30.000Because a lot of folks that we talk to, people that are very well informed in many other things, have no idea about how their money is being used or invested.
00:05:42.000And when they find this out, they do become aware and start looking at: wow, is this really where I want to put my money?
00:05:48.000Where I may not earn the greatest amount of income off of this, but I may be supporting something that I really would not support with my dollars given my own opportunity.
00:06:00.000So, Connor, do you have an excerpt from the letter there from the New York Times?
00:06:04.000So, Larry Fink wrote in this really interesting 3,300-word letter that access to capital is not a right.
00:06:12.000And he said that a company's ESG score, so if you don't know what an ESG score, that's your environmental, social, and corporate governance concerns score.
00:06:21.000It's a metric by which these stakeholders are going to judge basically your level of wokeness and how closely you are buying into the corporate green agenda, right?
00:07:14.000The shareholder, there's actually their fiduciary responsibility to be focused on shareholder return.
00:07:20.000But they're making capitalism, although they've benefited by capitalism, they're making capitalism look bad as we have practiced capitalism.
00:07:40.000We do have second vote advisors where we do offer products, financial products that are shareholder focused and contrary to what Larry Fink is doing.
00:07:50.000Certainly, I don't enjoy the assets under management that he has under his firm.
00:07:54.000But we've just launched that last year.
00:08:21.000And the shareholder versus stakeholder.
00:08:24.000And I'll be honest, I read this article pretty quickly.
00:08:26.000I didn't really quite, I didn't quite get it, meaning I didn't quite capture that because it's just easy to kind of blur the lines.
00:08:35.000Can we just kind of walk through the fundamental differences between traditional shareholder capitalism and stakeholder capitalism and why stakeholder is so new and dangerous?
00:08:46.000Well, of course, the shareholder capitalism model is what almost all working Americans have in their 401k and IRAs, which are planning for their future retirement.
00:08:58.000It's accumulating wealth for them to have available to them when they reach those retirement years.
00:09:06.000And what the Larry Fink investment strategy is, is they're going to siphon off profits that really belong to the shareholder.
00:09:16.000They're going to siphon off those profits and give those monies to radical leftist organizations.
00:09:23.000And they're going to give money to organizations that more likely than not, you as a shareholder would never probably want to donate with.
00:09:30.000But in all candor, this is like the uber rich stealing from the middle class.
00:09:37.000And I do call this not financial economics.
00:10:44.000It's basically like we live in Larry Fink's world, whether we like it or not.
00:10:48.000And their subsidiaries are companies of hotels and shopping malls to massive swaths of land to real estate, you name it.
00:10:57.000Do either of you want to comment briefly on that?
00:11:00.000Well, real quickly, his approach to all of this is going to reduce the middle class of America.
00:11:06.000And in all candor, he is trying to turn the United States into a Cuba.
00:11:11.000And I've got a raft I'm willing to donate to him.
00:11:14.000If he wants to paddle over to Cuba and see how great this idea is, we'll donate the raft and he can put it adrift and go on over to Cuba and see what this kind of system looks like up close.
00:11:25.000Well, I think he wants to be Fidel Castro and he doesn't care.
00:11:29.000And that's one of the most important point is that he's like, well, I get to be in charge.
00:11:34.000And so I don't care about the rest of the people.
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00:12:57.000Connor, what else do we have on the agenda?
00:12:59.000Well, I want to put a bow on the Larry Fink issue.
00:13:03.000I think you have a great idea about sending them over to Cuba because if we send them over to Cuba, the Biden regime might not let them back in.
00:13:10.000They're very unkind to Cuban refugees.
00:13:12.000So that could solve that problem there.
00:13:15.000There was some really big news that happened, what was this last week?
00:13:21.000The Supreme Court, in a historic 6-3 decision, struck down Biden's OSHA vaccine mandates, which would require businesses of over 100 or more employees to either require vaccines or mandate weekly tests.
00:13:37.000But in response to that, we're seeing some companies, some really surprising companies actually, decide that they're going to buck the Supreme Court ruling and continue to mandate vaccines.
00:13:47.000One of them was Carhartt, which was really surprising to me because for the longest time, Carhartt has been a symbol of the muscular class, something that we talk about a lot on the show.
00:13:58.000Why do you think that they're doing that?
00:13:59.000That feels like a betrayal to their customer base.
00:14:20.000It's contrary to their choppers, their customers' values.
00:14:27.000And you really have to wonder what happens to these people who become so successful.
00:14:35.000And I don't know if it's the cocktail parties they go to, they start joining in group thinking and kind of lose their way in terms of touching to the common man and woman.
00:14:47.000I don't know, dear, do you have a thought on why such things happen?
00:14:52.000Well, it does make me question, and I don't know that we will ever know that about who makes that decision.
00:14:58.000Is it a department that they have that is a department that we, even those that are in the upper echelons of the company, don't know?
00:15:08.000Because we have found in colleges and places like that where they have diversity departments that if you talk to the administrators of the facility, they'll say, well, that isn't exactly what we think, but the diversity department.
00:15:22.000That's just a guess that maybe there is a diversity department.
00:15:25.000Maybe there is a department where perhaps the folks at the top.
00:15:29.000But what really does matter is that the people speak up.
00:15:33.000And that's what Second Boat is about: it gives you an opportunity to directly contact those folks and let them know that you don't really like the decision they made and you don't intend on buying their product anymore.
00:15:44.000And if that will not wake them up, I don't know what will.
00:15:47.000Money and dollars in their pocket really is something that makes them listen.
00:15:52.000And you can't directly contact them through our scored page on Carhartt.
00:15:58.000I do think, Diane, actually, we do know that many companies, when they establish diversity offices or they build a diversity position within their HR department, CEOs, owners, they'll defer. to those individuals to speak on behalf of the corporation.
00:16:16.000So that could certainly be part of what's going on here.
00:16:19.000But one of the worst things that could happen to any company is to establish a diversity position or office.
00:17:44.000And my dad's a big stickler on that stuff.
00:17:47.000And whenever you give him clothes for Christmas, the first thing he'll look at, where is it made?
00:17:53.000And so, but Carhartt should, and this is something that's important.
00:17:56.000And I'm glad you guys are taking the leadership on this, both Diane and David here, which is that if we aren't able or willing to do boycotts, then we're just kind of issuing press releases.
00:18:45.000Carhartt trended the other day all day long.
00:18:48.000And what it was was leftists and, you know, Democrat folks on there saying, oh, the people who whine about cancel culture are now canceling Carhartt, how ironic, as if they've made some sort of profound point.
00:19:01.000But at the end of the day, we are, you know, Americans who have a right to spend our money the way that we want to.
00:19:07.000And I certainly don't see it as cancel culture to take my business elsewhere.
00:19:12.000And I can't really rationalize how people could come to that conclusion.
00:19:15.000Well, and the problem with the whole tirade against cancel culture is we never explained why we hated what was happening.
00:19:24.000And that was the whole point: people are being canceled for silly things that very well should have been, you know, looked over or an apology accepted, such as decades-long tweets or comments or Facebook postings or trying to destroy Brett Kavanaugh's life or trying to take Dave Chappelle off Netflix because he made fun of the alphabet mafia or whatever, where that's an injustice.
00:19:46.000Okay, so we also have on here leftist media censorship, which actually is a perfect segue, right?
00:19:52.000I was going to say the converse of that is that while they're accusing us of engaging in cancel culture, they're actually using all of the power of the cultural institutions like BlackRock, like Spotify, like Apple, like Google, and trying to end people's livelihoods.
00:20:09.000Dan Bongino, who's a friend of our show and a great guy, he had his YouTube channel suspended recently, demonetized over COVID misinformation, right?
00:20:24.000But, you know, Diane could speak to this most certainly, but I just will comment quickly that any voice that is raised up to speak factually about what's going on with this vaccine is silenced.
00:20:43.000And I was just reading earlier today about an Israeli scientist who was looking at the CDC website on the adverse reactions to the COVID vaccines and had looked to publish a paper, scientific paper, dealing totally with the facts.
00:21:02.000And that paper was rejected and refused to be printed.
00:21:06.000So scientists, entertainment, anybody who speaks up is silenced.
00:21:13.000And as a scientist, I will say this is absolutely contrary to good science.
00:21:17.000Good science is always about open dialogue, discussion of differences of opinion based upon facts.
00:21:25.000And this is, in my entire career as a scientist, I've never seen anything like this.
00:21:33.000Yeah, I am very concerned about the media that really the larger media and the bigger companies that have the ability to be able to shut down everyone.
00:21:44.000And if you don't, if they don't like what you say, they're going to shut you down.
00:21:47.000I mean, we're talking about looking back at what happened in Germany with the Nazis and how they shut people down.
00:21:54.000I was just listening to a video of a lady that was four years old when all that happened.
00:21:57.000And she went through and talked about her experiences from the time she was four until the time she finally did get out of Germany and come to the United States.
00:22:09.000And at the end of that, I got to thinking how closely aligned is what is happening here where you're closing down what people are allowed to say, not locking them up at this point, but certainly locking them out.
00:22:25.000And Charlie, I so appreciate what you do because you are bringing in this younger population that really are the ones that need to stand up and say, no, we're not going to put up with this.
00:22:34.000So it is a scary time when you have big media that controls what someone can and cannot say and shuts them out.
00:22:44.000And they act like a tyrannical government and there's almost no check on that.
00:22:53.000And I can't remember if I told this story with the blacks last time, but I know I told it on radio, which is that I was trying to buy a car and JPMorgan Chase, they actually were super sweet, the people that worked at the institution.
00:23:08.000But I bank with them and amongst other banks.
00:23:12.000And I was trying to buy a car, and the car dealership was being super rigid and strict, and they couldn't accept anything except a cashier's check.
00:23:24.000So I got the cashier's check and I went to the car dealership, and it was for the wrong amount because the car dealership didn't factor in taxes.
00:24:03.000Because at that moment, I realized, like, wow, that money is really not my own.
00:24:08.000Like, they could punch some numbers in, and all of a sudden, all my assets get frozen.
00:24:12.000And that seems to be a theme of what's happening with banking.
00:24:16.000And I know there are some entrepreneurs that are creating some patriotic banks that are becoming online soon because I believe that the next most aggressive form of cancellation, first they do social media, next is going to be banks, but we don't even have to speculate.
00:24:30.000What's happening with Mike Lindell, Connor?
00:24:32.000Mike Lindell, it's the, let me get the local bank in Minnesota, right?
00:24:43.000So for the mortal sin of daring to question a basic fundamental institution in the United States, our elections, Mike Lindell has had access to his access or his assets and his capital completely frozen.
00:25:09.000Why would they do that to Mike Lindell?
00:25:11.000And why should they have that much power over something that you earn and you create yourself when it comes to your capital?
00:25:18.000Well, again, this is nothing we've ever seen in the United States.
00:25:23.000The means of quieting people are many.
00:25:28.000But the financial world, and we've been researching this, actually, this is our 10th year this year at Second Vote, but we early on at Second Vote and researching discovered the hostility of the financial community towards conservatives and Christians.
00:25:45.000And this is only going to become more evident as time goes on.
00:25:50.000They are going to use the financial networks to silence the voices of reason and facts.
00:25:58.000And if you don't agree with the left, you will be silenced.
00:26:03.000There won't be a platform for you to speak from.
00:26:07.000And Mike Lindahl has been very open about his concerns of not only the election, but also the vaccines.
00:26:14.000And he's, and I find him to be very reasonable.
00:26:19.000I, frankly, don't find him to be radical.
00:27:13.000But I had to submit bank statements to the apartment complex, et cetera, et cetera.
00:27:18.000And I was going through my own bank statements just to kind of keep a tally.
00:27:22.000And I think to myself, all of the creeps at the bank who are canceling Mike Lindell and who are doing all this stuff, they can go through all this just with as easy as I can.
00:27:31.000And let's say that they don't like where I spend my money.
00:27:34.000Let's say that I donate to Donald Trump.
00:27:35.000Let's say that I donate to Mike Lindell.
00:27:39.000All of a sudden, they can say, well, you are no longer fit to be a customer with us.
00:27:43.000That should terrify every American and give everyone pause.
00:27:46.000Well, and just the idea of freezing your assets in real time, that's something that could stop your business, stop payments, and vendors.
00:27:54.000And so one thing we have done as a risk mitigation strategy at Turning Point USA, as soon as I saw the banking thing a year and a half ago, we have a family friend and also a friend here of Turning Point USA that Eric Eric and I know this family from North Dakota.
00:28:11.000They own a series of banks and they have a branch in Arizona.
00:28:32.000I was going to say, you know, at Second Vote, we always do say shop local, but that would include banking locals.
00:28:39.000Local banks are not going to be at the moment tied up into these big, big, huge corporate banks that are in the woke community.
00:28:50.000Your local banks, in our area, we have multiple options of local banks who share our values and who are not going to act and behave in this manner.
00:29:00.000But one more thing I'd like to comment on real quick, too, is this movement towards not accepting cash.
00:29:06.000You know, cash allows us to avoid this censoring, this activity on the part of these banks, but they're pushing us more and more to using a credit card or some form of plastic money.
00:29:20.000And I think we should all be extremely concerned about that.
00:29:23.000And of course, the World Economic Forum and the one world government folks are certainly after as much as they can to diminish the value of the United States dollar and to minimize its presence on the world stage.
00:29:35.000So this attack on money is coming from many directions.
00:30:07.000You could see how Google or YouTube is on all the different issues, right?
00:30:13.000From Rumble, the Target to Ford to United to Starbucks to Carhartt, to BlackRock to Exxon to all of it.
00:30:23.000Whatever company you might be dealing with, secondvote.com is a great way for you to be able to look into it and to really figure out if your dollars are going towards things that are virtuous.
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00:32:30.000You might say, well, Charlie, I don't know a competitor.
00:34:56.000And yet they've morphed over into this fascist tyranny that is unyou know, they just moved into this fantasy world that is the opposite of where the liberal movement began.
00:35:10.000And it really does beg a deeper question of, you know, does liberalism always eventually end towards totalitarianism, right?
00:35:18.000Which is if you're always trying to liberate groups from alleged tyranny, women from the patriarchy, or ethnic minorities from systemic racism, well, where does that eventually lead?
00:35:29.000Eventually, you're going to try to use that quenched fist against somebody, right?
00:35:33.000That quenched fist is not going to open up into a palm of acceptance.
00:36:13.000I mean, he's as a nurse, as a nurse for more than 50 years and an emergency room nurse.
00:36:19.000I cannot imagine being in that position where someone comes in the hospital and says, We're going to rate you about where we think you should be and where we should think we should, how we should take care of you.
00:36:30.000So, let's just put you to the back of the line.
00:36:33.000I still cannot believe a Catholic hospital is even considering going down that road.
00:36:40.000Everyone needs to be treated the same.
00:36:44.000We don't look at any of that when we take care of patients.
00:36:47.000I am just shocked out of my socks that this is happening.
00:36:52.000Yeah, and they've created this equation, which absolutely, you know, we've heard from the left, from the woke group, that mathematics is racist.
00:37:00.000Well, this is a true example of where mathematics is racist.
00:37:03.000They have created an equation where a white person cannot achieve the score to receive necessary treatment.
00:37:10.000But even a healthy black person will receive treatment for no conditions at all.
00:37:15.000But here's, I do have to read off of their website because this is their mission statement.
00:37:24.000I'm sorry, I had it right here in front of me, but it is a Catholic hospital, and they do talk about their need to provide God's healing power to all of their patients.
00:37:37.000I paraphrased it, but that's what they say.
00:37:39.000And this is some of the greatest hypocrisy I've ever seen as we've done our research.
00:37:45.000This is a hospital system out of Minnesota.