The Charlie Kirk Show - Xi Jinping Visits His California Colony

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, San Francisco is clean.

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00:00:04.000 Because Winnie the Pooh is here.

00:00:06.000 He is back to see his colony.

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00:00:12.000 And then we're joined by an FCC commissioner to talk about a sneaky new regulation that might be coming after your internet.

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00:01:42.000 I want to bring to your attention a very important story here, and we have a great guest to walk us through it.

00:01:48.000 So until September, the FCC, the Federal Communications Commission, which we are regulated by here because we are on AM and FM radio, was balanced with two Republicans and two Democrats.

00:02:01.000 Now that it has a Democrat majority, it's starting to enact a very radical social agenda, everybody.

00:02:08.000 And one such radical step just happened.

00:02:11.000 The FCC just recently adopted a quote digital discrimination order on a 3-2 party line vote.

00:02:19.000 So here to speak with us today about this is Republican FCC Commissioner Nathan Symington, who was appointed by President Trump back in 2020.

00:02:29.000 Mr. Symington, thank you so much for joining us.

00:02:31.000 Please tell us all about this.

00:02:33.000 Absolutely.

00:02:34.000 Thanks for having me on, Charlie.

00:02:36.000 This item takes a short section in the 2021 infrastructure bill and uses it to spin out a sprawling government takeover of the internet.

00:02:44.000 Section 6 to 506 did pass with some Republican votes, but its language was not nearly broad enough to support what the Democratic majority just voted to do with it.

00:02:52.000 And I'm sure people would not have voted for it if they knew that this was what would follow.

00:02:56.000 Well, so look, the government taking over the internet sounds very sinister.

00:03:02.000 So I just want to be very specific.

00:03:04.000 How is the government taking over the internet?

00:03:07.000 I mean, are they going to like nationalize Google?

00:03:09.000 What are they going to start taking over?

00:03:11.000 Walk us through this.

00:03:13.000 Absolutely.

00:03:14.000 Well, when people think about the internet, they think about the sites and apps that they're using.

00:03:18.000 But there's also a lot of physical infrastructure there, and it's very costly.

00:03:21.000 So this is bad in a different way.

00:03:23.000 It's about taking over the physical side, cell towers, fiber optic cables, servers.

00:03:28.000 The justification is that some low-income or minority areas have relatively low amounts of high-speed internet.

00:03:35.000 So the FCC took just three words from the law preventing digital discrimination and decided that these low levels of internet subscriptions show discrimination by cell phone and internet providers just because they exist.

00:03:48.000 Then the majority goes further.

00:03:49.000 It says any difference in service can be discrimination.

00:03:54.000 Does one neighborhood have higher prices?

00:03:55.000 Does one place have slower speeds, outdated equipment?

00:03:58.000 If there's any difference, we can call it discrimination and we can fine them whatever we want or order them to build whatever they want.

00:04:05.000 So what would the ramifications of this potentially be?

00:04:08.000 Could the FCC just fine you for providing internet in a racist way as they deem racist?

00:04:13.000 I mean, pretty much.

00:04:15.000 It's a blank check.

00:04:16.000 They could say, you have to build brand new fiber internet for this one town with 500 people.

00:04:21.000 Some member of Congress wants it.

00:04:23.000 And then you have to charge them the same price you charge in downtown Phoenix, where we'd have 10,000 people on the same line.

00:04:28.000 And if you don't, here's a $10 million fine for you.

00:04:30.000 Or here's another illustration.

00:04:32.000 So you're deciding where to build out new fiber service.

00:04:35.000 You're choosing an area between areas where you might make $1 million a year versus $2 million a year.

00:04:41.000 The rational decision, of course, is you build out to the area where you're going to have more uptake.

00:04:45.000 Among other things, that would serve more people.

00:04:47.000 But the FCC could fine you because it turns out that that was a more white area, whereas the $1 million a year area is majority minority.

00:04:56.000 And so the FCC is mandating what amounts to affirmative action and racial quotas for everything that the companies do.

00:05:02.000 Yeah, so I want to, I mean, that just sounds like a mafia shakedown, right?

00:05:07.000 I mean, but I want to just make sure we're clear.

00:05:10.000 You said it's a federal government takeover of the internet.

00:05:12.000 Can you elaborate on that, that specific labeling?

00:05:16.000 Sure, absolutely.

00:05:17.000 Well, we deal with regulated industries all the time, and that's not necessarily a takeover.

00:05:21.000 Sometimes it's just everyone coming together and agreeing what they want the industry to look like and putting rules in place.

00:05:26.000 But here, there are no standards for when you have to bring a case or not for how much you can fine, for what orders you can give.

00:05:33.000 Basically, there are no rules.

00:05:35.000 And so the real effect is going to be that companies will be terrified because they won't know what they're allowed to do.

00:05:41.000 The real question of what they're allowed to do is going to be determined by how much effort they spend sucking up to the government.

00:05:47.000 And anytime the government wants them to do something, they'll have no choice but to come running and do it because the penalty for not doing that is potentially an endless legal nightmare.

00:05:56.000 So we've introduced this idea of a skeleton key before.

00:06:01.000 I think Christopher Caldwell's book, Age of Entitlement, talks about how good intentions and a broadly written law can then be really given all the power to the enforcers or to the bureaucrats.

00:06:13.000 And especially for left-wing type priorities, do you think that this fits into the criteria of an idea of a skeleton key law?

00:06:20.000 Absolutely.

00:06:21.000 So no one is arguing, certainly, you know, certainly not me.

00:06:25.000 No one is arguing for the idea that companies should discriminate in how they lay out broadband.

00:06:30.000 But using this idea that any difference in the real world amounts to discrimination is sufficient evidence of discrimination is the way that you turn every three-letter letter agency, whether that's us at the FCC, whether that's the Federal Trade Commission, the FBI, the DOJ, whether you turn it in effect into a DEI agency.

00:06:50.000 Every project has to have requirements and preferences.

00:06:54.000 Every agency has to be turned into a civil rights agency.

00:06:57.000 So housing and urban development, for example, they're trying to make it a legal requirement for cities to build low-income housing projects next to or in the middle of any nice neighborhoods they have.

00:07:06.000 There really doesn't seem to be any problem that can't be solved by calling people racist and punishing them for some other unrelated business decision.

00:07:14.000 So another example, another one of the federal telecom agencies, NTIA, I'm an alumnus of them.

00:07:19.000 They're distributing $40 billion in subsidies to build fiber internet, but they've loaded up the program.

00:07:25.000 It's not just a fiber building program.

00:07:27.000 It's a union labor mandate program.

00:07:29.000 It's a DEI requirement program.

00:07:31.000 It's a preference for government-owned internet services figures program.

00:07:36.000 And so, you know, whether or not you think any of those things are a good idea, the point is that they've been put in in regs.

00:07:42.000 And therefore, the agency has been diverted from its purpose to start doing all of these other DEI type things.

00:07:50.000 Yeah, so I mean, I guess a question I have is, is corporate America lobbying against all of this?

00:07:55.000 I mean, the traditional big uglies of the big firms.

00:07:59.000 Where is their stance on this?

00:08:01.000 Yeah, because you would think that it's in their interest to have as much freedom of operation as possible.

00:08:07.000 And to a degree that that's, to a degree, that's true.

00:08:09.000 And there will be counter pressure coming from some of the big companies in this area.

00:08:13.000 But sometimes they sort of bring it on themselves.

00:08:16.000 So if you look at the item that we just did at the FCC yesterday, when the underlying bill was still in Congress, A lot of corporate lobbyists actually said, you know, we're okay with it.

00:08:26.000 Congress gave them tens of billions in federal handouts as part of the same thing.

00:08:30.000 So despite all those woke strings being attached, overall they decided that it was worth it to be bought off.

00:08:37.000 We need them to realize that this is a, in the words of my colleague, Brandon Carr, a Faustian bargain.

00:08:42.000 In 10 years, the handouts will be gone, but they'll have this digital equity albatross forever.

00:08:48.000 It will never be enough.

00:08:50.000 There's no way that you can ever make someone happy if there's no standard for what compliance is.

00:08:55.000 On the other hand, by the time this comes along, people who were present at the original decision may well have collected their bonuses, retired.

00:09:02.000 It won't be their problem anymore.

00:09:04.000 It'll be our problem.

00:09:06.000 This is not a rule that's going to get front page New York Times treatment, but it's an excellent example of the subtle yet significant power of the federal bureaucracy.

00:09:19.000 And hundreds of these decisions are made every single year.

00:09:23.000 Not all of them get, by the way, the FCC has a board, right?

00:09:26.000 Not every agency has a board.

00:09:29.000 And it just so happens, you know, we're here to talk about this.

00:09:32.000 Think about the hundreds of other micro decisions the bureaucracy is making in equity and racial this.

00:09:39.000 It adds up to a less free country.

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00:10:42.000 So I guess the immediate question is, will this affect my own internet?

00:10:46.000 Well, it definitely will because the federal government is putting out a huge amount of money for this, but all that money is competing with each other.

00:10:53.000 You know, you can't just wish resources into being by writing a check.

00:10:57.000 Even if you've got the power of the U.S. Treasury behind you, there's just physical limitations on how many workers there are, how long it takes to trench and put in fiber, how long it takes to build the tower and hang radios off it, whatever you might want to ask.

00:11:11.000 It's going to make everyone's internet much more over time, more costly.

00:11:16.000 And the worst thing is it's going to deflate the value of developing a project.

00:11:20.000 So fewer projects will get developed.

00:11:22.000 Corporations don't just have big plots of money.

00:11:23.000 They go out and get financing just the way that you might take out a construction loan to build an office building or some such.

00:11:30.000 And all of those deals are going to be implicitly deflated by this.

00:11:33.000 So we can expect high priority political areas to get the best results out of this and the forgotten middle to get the worst. 0.97

00:11:42.000 Yeah, that's, can you just kind of speak for a second of how the FCC is composed and how many members of the board are there?

00:11:50.000 Just for the uninitiated to our audience, explain it.

00:11:54.000 And then also explain your purview.

00:11:56.000 Sure.

00:11:57.000 So with the FCC, there's five of us.

00:12:00.000 That's a recent development because the third Democratic seat was only filled in September.

00:12:08.000 So for most of the Biden administration, there hasn't been a third Democrat, and we've been in a 2-2 situation, which may explain why this item didn't come up until now.

00:12:18.000 But the most important thing about us is that at the commissioner level, we're independent.

00:12:25.000 That means appointed by the president, confirmed by the Senate.

00:12:28.000 After that, you can't get fired unless you're committing crimes.

00:12:31.000 So that lets me get out here and say what I really think without having to worry that the secretary of something or other is going to fire me over it.

00:12:39.000 Regarding the purview, so the FCC kind of got started for two reasons.

00:12:45.000 Number one, the old AT ⁇ T phone monopoly, which was a government-backed monopoly, that was the alternative.

00:12:50.000 The United States was the only country in the world not to have a socialized national phone system at the time.

00:12:55.000 So we said, no, we're going to let a private company run it.

00:12:57.000 We're just going to supervise it.

00:12:58.000 And the FCC was put in place to do that.

00:13:00.000 The other thing was to coordinate radio broadcasting.

00:13:03.000 When radio was a young field, no one knew how to coordinate frequencies and people would just run up the power level on transmitters and try to interfere with each other in the best markets.

00:13:11.000 Obviously, that wasn't workable.

00:13:12.000 So we started a system of assigning frequencies and sort of took it from there.

00:13:15.000 So in the modern day, it's cell phones, it's the phone network.

00:13:20.000 It's also radar.

00:13:22.000 It's satellite communications, undersea cables, pretty much any interstate communication by radio or wire.

00:13:30.000 So that's very helpful.

00:13:31.000 Thank you.

00:13:32.000 Just talk, so the process is that there's term limits, right?

00:13:36.000 Is that correct?

00:13:36.000 There are terms on each one of the board members?

00:13:39.000 Five-year terms.

00:13:41.000 Yeah.

00:13:41.000 And so then what, if there were to be a different winner of the election, like if Trump, for example, were to win next November, what would that mean for vacancies on the board?

00:13:53.000 Well, the chairman, or in this case, the chairwoman, it's tradition, the chair resigns on Inauguration Day at 9 a.m.

00:14:01.000 So Trump's FCC chair, Ajit Pai, still had time left in his term, but he resigned on Inauguration Day.

00:14:08.000 And so the tradition is that every president gets to pick his own chair.

00:14:12.000 Got it.

00:14:13.000 So let me just kind of final question here.

00:14:16.000 You were a federal regulator during the Obama administration.

00:14:18.000 Why were we able to have you come on and say this?

00:14:21.000 And we don't hear this from other agencies like the FBI unless we get a whistleblower.

00:14:26.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:14:27.000 I wasn't here for the Obama administration.

00:14:29.000 I took office in 2020.

00:14:31.000 But nonetheless, yes, I'm politically independent.

00:14:34.000 That is a really unique thing about how our agency works because we have enforcement powers, which is like the executive, but we also have rulemaking powers, which is like the legislative.

00:14:43.000 And so they made us independent so that we weren't beholden to either one of those because it would be a stealing of power from the other branch, if you see what I mean.

00:14:50.000 Now, in the case of some other agency, at the end of the day, the person on top may be confirmed by the Senate and nominated by the president, but is not politically independent.

00:15:02.000 And instead, they might serve at the president's pleasure.

00:15:06.000 Well, you want to get on the wrong side of the president.

00:15:08.000 That's a very quick way to get transitioned out of your job.

00:15:11.000 Nathan Symington, thank you so much.

00:15:12.000 Excellent job.

00:15:13.000 Appreciate it.

00:15:13.000 Thank you.

00:15:14.000 Huge pleasure, Charlie.

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00:16:15.000 Xi Jiping is visiting the colony of San Francisco.

00:16:21.000 This whole thing is very bizarre.

00:16:24.000 So first, Gavin Nussalini goes over to China and he does a visit there, runs over a bunch of Chinese kids when playing basketball.

00:16:30.000 The whole thing's very strange.

00:16:33.000 You take some sort of GQ Vogue photo up on the Great Wall of China, his shirt unbuttoned.

00:16:39.000 It's very clear that Joe Biden sent Gavin Newsom.

00:16:43.000 And Joe Biden says, hey, pal, I don't want to make the flight.

00:16:45.000 You go.

00:16:46.000 Because I guess they were doing kind of like a trip swap type thing.

00:16:50.000 And so Gavin goes to China and Xi Ji Ping comes to America. 0.90

00:16:54.000 So Xi Jiping lands and he's coming to see his colony. 0.98

00:16:57.000 He's invested so heavily into capturing the elite of America.

00:17:01.000 And boy, they have delivered.

00:17:03.000 So there's several takeaways here that are critically important.

00:17:08.000 The first of which is the most obvious.

00:17:12.000 When I visited Seattle this last summer, it was a mess.

00:17:16.000 It was dirty. 0.99

00:17:17.000 It was filled with vermin and swine and homeless people and degenerates and drug addicts and raging lunatics come up to your car and start beating. 1.00

00:17:27.000 It's a disgusting city. 1.00

00:17:29.000 And he started talking to one of the people at my hotel. 0.98

00:17:31.000 I said, this is unrecognizable.

00:17:33.000 He said, yeah, but it was actually pretty nice for a couple of weeks this summer.

00:17:36.000 I said, why?

00:17:37.000 He said, what changed?

00:17:38.000 I said, well, we had the MLB All-Star game in Seattle this summer and they cleaned everything up.

00:17:44.000 I said, well, isn't it really demoralizing that if all the media cameras are coming, they clean everything up and then they don't care afterwards?

00:17:51.000 He said, yeah, it's demoralizing.

00:17:53.000 It also shows they can fix it.

00:17:55.000 This can be fixed.

00:17:56.000 Urban dirtiness can be fixed.

00:18:00.000 Now, I find it hilarious that of all the things that motivate them to clean up the streets of San Francisco, it's Xi Jiping. 1.00

00:18:11.000 As many people have been commenting, Gavin Newsom gives a long speech assuring San Francisco homeless they can go back to pooping on the streets once Xi Ji Ping returns back to China.

00:18:23.000 Play Cut 6.

00:18:25.000 I know folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town.

00:18:31.000 That's true because it's true.

00:18:35.000 But it's also true for months and months and months prior to APEC, we've been having different conversations.

00:18:42.000 You're not as smart as you think you are, Gavin.

00:18:44.000 It's true because it's true.

00:18:45.000 It also shows elections don't mean anything in California.

00:18:48.000 He knows that he's got that job for life if he wants it.

00:18:51.000 Total totalitarian dictator.

00:18:53.000 Maybe he's not that different than Xi Ji Ping.

00:18:57.000 So Xi Ji Ping arrives and Gavin greets him.

00:19:00.000 Hey, old pal, how you doing?

00:19:03.000 Xi Ji Ping's motor crate drives through San Francisco and it's noticeably clean.

00:19:09.000 It's the cleanest San Francisco has been in multiple generations.

00:19:12.000 Who would have known? 0.99

00:19:13.000 All we have to do to clean up the streets of San Francisco is fly in dictators. 0.66

00:19:17.000 Play Cut 64.

00:19:36.000 Where are the American flags?

00:19:37.000 What's with all the Chinese flags?

00:19:39.000 Not a single U.S. flag.

00:19:42.000 But to be fair, they probably didn't remove any.

00:19:45.000 You know what they probably had to remove, though?

00:19:47.000 Some gay flags.

00:19:49.000 CCP is not big into pride. 0.97

00:19:52.000 It's not a core Confucian value to have men become women.

00:19:58.000 So they're meeting.

00:20:00.000 Xi Ji Ping and Biden decides to fly in.

00:20:02.000 He's like, oh, I can't take the cross-country flight.

00:20:05.000 Let's go to Cut 107.

00:20:06.000 Gavin was ready to take the relationship to the next level until he found out there was someone else, Joe Biden.

00:20:15.000 The president flew in on Air Force One.

00:20:17.000 Now Newsom had competition.

00:20:19.000 When Qi saw Joe, they couldn't keep their hands off each other.

00:20:23.000 As Joe likes to brag, he spent more time with Chi than anyone else.

00:20:27.000 Not to mention the fact that Chi's guys bribed the Biden family. 0.84

00:20:30.000 The chemistry was unmistakable.

00:20:33.000 I've never doubted what you've told me in terms of your candid nature in which you speak.

00:20:38.000 I still remember our interactions very vividly.

00:20:43.000 And it always gives me a lot of thoughts.

00:20:46.000 Thoughts or thoughts?

00:20:50.000 That's the question.

00:20:52.000 So look, the Chinese Communist Party is the great enemy of America, but he comes in and he gets a hero's welcome here in the country. 0.99

00:20:57.000 And just to be fair, you should always be talking to leaders, even if they're their enemies.

00:21:02.000 I totally supported Trump having him over to Mar-a-Lago, but you got to be very clear about what you stand for.

00:21:09.000 So Xi Jiping comes to San Francisco. 0.98

00:21:11.000 Now, the one thing we can hope for is Xi Jinping goes back to China and he gives a big speech.

00:21:17.000 We are no longer embracing left-wing Marxism.

00:21:21.000 He's like, that's a mess.

00:21:22.000 Like he goes back and he just denounces the whole thing.

00:21:25.000 It's like, geez, that's what we're heading towards.

00:21:28.000 But understand, the bromance between Gavin, Biden, and Xi Jinping is deeper than you might think.

00:21:38.000 China is not an enemy.

00:21:40.000 They're not a competitor.

00:21:42.000 China is the goal. 0.99

00:21:46.000 We've said for quite some time that the lack of understanding of Maoism will be our downfall.

00:21:56.000 We are living through a cultural revolution.

00:21:58.000 Xi Jiping runs the Chinese Communist Party.

00:22:02.000 The Chinese Communist Party is the same project started by Mao Zedong.

00:22:05.000 Mao Zedong launched a cultural revolution.

00:22:09.000 He had a moment where people could speak out and there could be free speech until repressive tolerance came.

00:22:17.000 Struggle sessions where Maoists, there were 10 different categories that were created in mainland China.

00:22:22.000 Five for fascists, five for communists.

00:22:25.000 Parents were incentivized to train their kids in the communist way, and the kids were incentivized to turn in their parents if they were not 100% behind the party.

00:22:36.000 The American leadership look at Xi Ji Ping and they privately say, man, it must be awesome.

00:22:43.000 It must be awesome, Mr. Xi Ji Ping, that you have all this power, that you can do whatever you want whenever you want to do it.

00:22:53.000 The American ruling elite, Gavin Newsom and Joe Biden, they want to be more like Xi.

00:22:59.000 They don't look at this as a conflict between two countries.

00:23:02.000 They look at America hopefully to become closer to the Chinese Communist Party model. 0.61

00:23:09.000 Cut 108, Winnie the Pooh, says that China wants to be friends with the U.S.

00:23:13.000 Yeah, even though they attack us cyber, they send in their kids to our schools to spy on us.

00:23:19.000 They buy up land near military bases.

00:23:21.000 They dump, steal, solar panels and critical infrastructure and plastic.

00:23:27.000 They pump fentanyl into our country in the reverse opium wars. 0.55

00:23:30.000 They have digital fentanyl through TikTok.

00:23:33.000 By the way, did China ever pay for COVID?

00:23:35.000 Did they ever pay for COVID for creating a virus in the laboratory?

00:23:40.000 Did anyone even mention it?

00:23:42.000 Of course not.

00:23:44.000 Joe Biden is there to go kiss the ring of who's been paying for the lifestyle for the Biden family for years.

00:23:53.000 Play Cut 108.

00:23:56.000 Whatever stage of development it may reach, China will never pursue hegemony or expansion and will never impose its will on others.

00:24:05.000 China does not seek spheres of influence and will not fight a Cold War or a hot war with anyone.

00:24:13.000 China will remain committed to dialogue and oppose confrontation and build partnerships instead of alliances.

00:24:19.000 It will continue to pursue a mutually beneficial strategy of opening up.

00:24:24.000 The modernization we are pursuing is not for China alone.

00:24:28.000 We are ready to work with all countries to advance global modernization, featuring peaceful development, mutually beneficial cooperation and common prosperity, and to build a community with a shared future for mankind.

00:24:40.000 I mean, everything he's saying is a lie.

00:24:42.000 They lie professionally.

00:24:43.000 They don't have a moral code like we do in the West.

00:24:45.000 It's all about power.

00:24:46.000 It's all about expanding the Chinese Communist Empire. 0.90

00:24:50.000 They own ports of entry all throughout Africa and South America.

00:24:54.000 The Belt and Road Initiative is the recreation of taking over the world.

00:25:00.000 I mean, I could go through the list.

00:25:01.000 And our leaders take it.

00:25:04.000 Our leaders say, oh, yes, must be so great.

00:25:07.000 What great relations that we have.

00:25:10.000 In a rare moment of honesty, Joe Biden calls Xi Jiping a dictator.

00:25:16.000 Not exactly smart diplomacy, but honestly, I respect the candor.

00:25:19.000 Play Cut 109.

00:25:20.000 After today, would you still refer to President Xi as a dictator?

00:25:24.000 This is a term that you used earlier this year.

00:25:27.000 Well, look, he is.

00:25:28.000 I mean, he's a dictator in the sense that he is the guy who runs a country that is a financial country that basically forms government totally different than ours.

00:25:38.000 Are we becoming more like China or is China becoming more like America? 0.67

00:25:42.000 The promise of free trade and the promise of neoliberalism is that eventually China would become like America. 0.63

00:25:48.000 They'd become a liberal democracy with private property rights and entrepreneurship and free speech.

00:25:53.000 We were sold by the Mitt Romneys of the world and the Paul Ryans of the world and George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

00:25:58.000 We were sold by the Bill Clintons and even to a lesser extent Ronald Reagan that eventually China would liberalize and they would just become an open-minded country because the more we traded them, the more it changes their values and the opposite happened.

00:26:13.000 The more that we have traded with China, they have got wealthier, but they've also become less free.

00:26:18.000 They've become far more totalitarian, less open to different and new ideas.

00:26:24.000 Most Americans never used to worry about the Chinese Communist Party until Trump woke us up.

00:26:29.000 And understand the Chinese Communist Party owns Joe Biden, owns many members of the American government.

00:26:37.000 Here's a montage of Joe Biden saying the rise of China was good, of course, because he's on the payroll.

00:26:42.000 He's a traitor to the United States, the United States, and he's an agent of the Chinese Communist Party. 0.97

00:26:48.000 Play Cut 67. 0.97

00:26:49.000 Let me be clear.

00:26:51.000 I believed in 1979 and said so, and I believe now that a rising China is a positive development, not only for the people of China, but for the United States and the world as a whole.

00:27:06.000 We want to see China rise, to continue to rise in response in a way that will benefit you most, China, because you have an important role to play.

00:27:15.000 A rising China can be a significant asset for the region and the world, and selfishly for the United States. 0.99

00:27:22.000 He is an agent of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:27:27.000 Story in Politico.com.

00:27:29.000 Very interesting.

00:27:30.000 We are mentioned.

00:27:31.000 You guys are mentioned, actually, all of us together. 0.92

00:27:35.000 Ronna McDaniel's under siege, and her critics concede she's likely to survive.

00:27:40.000 For now, we shall see.

00:27:42.000 She is likely to survive for the time being.

00:27:44.000 It goes on to say that the members of the 168 and the RNC, they think she's doing a great job.

00:27:51.000 I want to read one of these here.

00:27:52.000 So there's a guy, Jeff Kaufman, brave soul from Iowa.

00:28:00.000 He thinks that Rana's doing amazing.

00:28:03.000 Having worked with chairwoman Rana over the past two election cycles, I could not have asked for a better partner to help us ensure historic up-and-down Republican victories in Iowa.

00:28:14.000 Without her support, Iowa and the Iowa caucus would not be the first in the nation.

00:28:18.000 She has my full confidence as we head into the thick of caucus season.

00:28:24.000 Okay, that's not an unfair statement.

00:28:27.000 You have to fight for your state.

00:28:29.000 You have to fight for your state so you get the caucus.

00:28:31.000 But is she going to help us win the White House?

00:28:33.000 And by the way, Jeff Kaufman, it's not because of Rana that Iowa has turned red.

00:28:37.000 It's because of Trump.

00:28:39.000 Trump has turned Iowa from Battleground State to a deep red state.

00:28:43.000 Period.

00:28:44.000 End of story.

00:28:45.000 Iowa was a 50-50 state.

00:28:47.000 Barack Hussein Obama won it in 2008.

00:28:50.000 And Iowa is now deep red because of Trump, not because of Rana. 0.92

00:28:55.000 But Jeff Kaufman, your argument is that we should have Rana remain the chair because you guys got the Iowa caucus first.

00:29:00.000 Like, that's a really, I get that's what you have to do.

00:29:03.000 You should fight for that in Iowa.

00:29:04.000 I believe, by the way, I believe Iowa should be first. 1.00

00:29:06.000 That's a bad argument for why she should stay chair of the RNC. 0.87

00:29:11.000 We're mentioned here.

00:29:12.000 Quote, Charlie Kirk urged Trump to push for a change in leadership.

00:29:17.000 Quote, there's still time to course correct on many of the structural problems of the RNC, Kirk said in a statement, but we need to move fast.

00:29:22.000 Kirk and Turning Point have tried to unseat McDaniel in the latest RNC election, but we fell short.

00:29:26.000 That is correct.

00:29:27.000 We did fall short.

00:29:28.000 In the aftermath of last week's elections, the simmering frustration with McDaniel has become far more pronounced.

00:29:35.000 North Carolina GOP chair Michael Watley says, I was disappointed with a vaccine statement.

00:29:41.000 What the RNC is trying to do is give every one of these candidates an opportunity to communicate their message to American people.

00:29:45.000 Hey, Michael Watley, why aren't you disappointed that we got our clock cleaned last Tuesday?

00:29:52.000 There is a petition.

00:29:53.000 It's firerana.com.

00:29:55.000 It's brought to you by Vivek Ramaswamy. 0.99

00:29:57.000 Laura Ingram kind of butted heads with Rana.

00:30:01.000 Play cut 13, please.

00:30:03.000 Why should you retain your job given the track record of the party under your leadership?

00:30:10.000 And to that, what do you say?

00:30:12.000 Well, first, I'm going to continue to focus on Joe Biden and Democrats.

00:30:16.000 And I think there was a moment missed during that debate by Vivek to talk about the fact that we still have 13 American hostages in Israel, the fact that for the first time ever in the history of either party, we had a Jewish co-sponsor for a debate, and we are in very perilous times in our country.

00:30:35.000 No, I'm sorry.

00:30:36.000 Enough gaslighting. 0.97

00:30:37.000 Are you a winner or a loser? 0.87

00:30:40.000 Enough of the fluff. 0.93

00:30:42.000 Okay?

00:30:42.000 And by the way, I'm so tired of this.

00:30:45.000 I don't do messaging.

00:30:46.000 I do messaging.

00:30:47.000 I can't spend money on state races.

00:30:49.000 Get your act together, okay?

00:30:53.000 It's always like an escape hatch.

00:30:55.000 It's like, hold on a sec.

00:30:57.000 I can't pin this thing down.

00:30:59.000 Play cut 14.

00:31:00.000 One of the things, though, Rana, that happened was, I think in Virginia, people were wondering where the money was, whether they were going to get some help from the RNC.

00:31:09.000 And I know at one point you said that you were not asked for money in Virginia, but a source, a Republican source familiar with the Youngkin team in Virginia, told the Angle late tonight that that is false.

00:31:22.000 And there, meaning your story keeps changing.

00:31:24.000 Anyone who thinks Virginia Republicans wouldn't want to help when we knew we'd be outspent isn't being serious.

00:31:29.000 You know, Rana, they were outspent by $8 million.

00:31:32.000 Glenn Youngkin did a phenomenal job and he raised a lot of money.

00:31:36.000 A lot of people don't understand fundraising.

00:31:38.000 I can't raise state dollars.

00:31:40.000 I don't get unlimited convention and state dollars.

00:31:44.000 And these were state House and state Senate races.

00:31:46.000 The RNC is a federal committee.

00:31:48.000 So, I mean, come on.

00:31:50.000 First of all, what are you talking about?

00:31:54.000 There are segregated accounts, but is it not true that the RNC data is used by Republican candidates up and down the ballot?

00:32:01.000 True or false?

00:32:03.000 So this is like a major, slippery, gaslighting thing.

00:32:06.000 And when the great Larry O'Connor asked you about it, you said, oh, they didn't need the money.

00:32:09.000 You didn't use that answer.

00:32:10.000 So it's either you can or you can't.

00:32:12.000 Do you do messaging?

00:32:12.000 We don't do messaging.

00:32:13.000 It's the candidates' fault.

00:32:15.000 Here's the essence.

00:32:16.000 Losing.

00:32:18.000 Gotta go.

00:32:20.000 Gotta go.

00:32:21.000 It's not personal.

00:32:22.000 You're a sweet person.

00:32:23.000 Go find something else to do.

00:32:25.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:32:26.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:28.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:32:32.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 17, 2023

Xi Jinping Visits His California Colony

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