The Charlie Kirk Show - You Are Not Enough (And That's Okay) w- Allie Beth Stuckey

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00:01:08.000 Hey, everybody.

00:01:09.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:11.000 Super thrilled to have with us today Allie B. Stuckey, who is a podcaster, one of the most popular female Christian voices in the country, and is also the author of a new book.

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00:01:27.000 I love the title, and I have to make sure I get the entire title correctly.

00:01:31.000 It is You're Not Enough and That's Okay.

00:01:34.000 Allie, first of all, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:36.000 Tell us about your book.

00:01:38.000 Yes, well, thanks so much for having me on again.

00:01:41.000 It's You're Not Enough and That's Okay, Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love.

00:01:46.000 So this culture of self-love that is so prominent, especially among young women, is targeted at us on social media, but even sometimes in the evangelical church.

00:01:57.000 It's this idea that in order to be happy and fulfilled and satisfied and successful, you just have to have high self-esteem.

00:02:03.000 You have to be obsessed with yourself.

00:02:05.000 You have to love yourself.

00:02:07.000 And the underlying message is that you are enough.

00:02:10.000 You're enough for everything you need.

00:02:12.000 Your own truth, your own purpose, your own satisfaction.

00:02:16.000 The problem is that's not true.

00:02:18.000 So if all of the problems that we have, all the bad feelings that we have inside of ourselves, which are real, insecurity, insufficiency, inadequacy, feeling like we just can't measure up, the antidote to those things can't also be inside of ourselves.

00:02:33.000 So the self can't be both the problem and the solution.

00:02:37.000 And this book is about going through the five myths that are propagated in the culture of self-love.

00:02:43.000 Some of them are that you are enough.

00:02:46.000 Can't love other people until you love yourself.

00:02:49.000 You determine your own truth.

00:02:51.000 And we talk about how these lies manifest themselves in culture, in our personal lives, even in politics.

00:02:56.000 And then we replace these damaging myths with the truth of God's word.

00:03:01.000 Well, it's very refreshing to have a book that is, I feel like there's too many political books.

00:03:07.000 I wrote one.

00:03:07.000 I mean, this is actually a book that actually goes to more root causes.

00:03:11.000 And I say that We need more people to know about self-control than self-esteem.

00:03:15.000 And I was always a very big critic of the self-esteem movement because you're telling 10-year-olds you're perfect the way that you are, and is always very bizarre.

00:03:25.000 Because why would you be in school then if you're perfect the way that you are?

00:03:28.000 I mean, I actually think it, and I would love to have your opinion on this.

00:03:32.000 It creates an unintentioned byproduct of the students or the individual, they feel an unneeded amount of pressure.

00:03:41.000 Like, maybe, am I out?

00:03:42.000 Am I all okay?

00:03:43.000 Because when they do end up not hitting that level, they then have to judge themselves to that criteria.

00:03:50.000 You talk, that's myth number one.

00:03:52.000 You say you are enough.

00:03:53.000 That's myth number one.

00:03:54.000 You draw on your own personal experiences having battled an eating disorder.

00:03:58.000 Tell us about that one.

00:03:59.000 Let's go through all five.

00:04:01.000 Yeah, so the first one that you are enough.

00:04:04.000 And as I said in the beginning, this idea that you are sufficient for your own happiness and success, and you are the only person who can actually achieve these things for yourself, that you don't have to depend on anyone else.

00:04:16.000 You don't have to depend on your faith.

00:04:18.000 You don't have to depend on God or any outside aids or forces in order to guide you and make sure that you are fulfilled.

00:04:26.000 Well, as you kind of just alluded to in the lie that you're perfect the way you are, we all know that that's not true, that we can't handle everything that we have to handle on our own, even just on a practical level.

00:04:36.000 With all of the roles and responsibilities that we each have to fill as individuals, something's always got to give.

00:04:43.000 We don't have the capacity, we don't have the energy, the strength, the talent, the time, whatever it is to do all the things that we need to do well.

00:04:50.000 So, in that sense, we know that we're not enough, and yet we're told over and over again that we are.

00:04:56.000 Well, rather than trying to prove our enoughness that puts us on this hamster wheel of trying to prove our sufficiency, why don't we embrace the fact that God actually made us finite?

00:05:07.000 He made us fallible.

00:05:09.000 He made us not just to depend on other people, but to depend on him in a very ultimate and eternal sense, to depend on him for salvation, but also to depend on him for strength and for sanctification, for satisfaction, for fulfillment, purpose, truth, all of these things that we just can't bring to ourselves because, as the Bible says, our hearts are desperately wicked.

00:05:30.000 Who can understand them?

00:05:31.000 We actually have to look outside of ourselves to learn who we are, what we're worth, our value, our purpose, and what truth is.

00:05:41.000 That's number two, where you say you determine your own truth.

00:05:44.000 I hear this all the time on college campuses, my truth.

00:05:47.000 This is my truth, or listen to that person's truth.

00:05:50.000 If you actually play that out to its furthest logical conclusion, that is societal chaos, where everyone has their own truth and their own version of events.

00:06:01.000 We, as Christians, believe in absolute truth.

00:06:04.000 It is one of the fundamental, I would say, pillars of Christianity, that Jesus Himself was truth, that he said everything a human being needs to hear.

00:06:13.000 Talk about this myth that you determine your own truth.

00:06:19.000 Yes.

00:06:19.000 So, like you said, that is so popular.

00:06:21.000 And typically, what people mean by my truth is they mean my experiences or my subjective interpretation of reality.

00:06:30.000 But when they label it my truth, what they're saying is that you can't argue against it.

00:06:35.000 This is my truth, that, for example, abortion is my right.

00:06:39.000 It's my body, my choice, my truth.

00:06:41.000 But you already see in the example that I just gave the ramifications of believing that you determine your own truth.

00:06:50.000 You justify something like the slaughter of an unborn child in the name of convenience because you have determined that it is an inarguable truth according to you.

00:07:00.000 And so this idea that it's my truth and your truth also means that you believe that it's my morality and your morality, which means that you can justify any choice, no matter how destructive, no matter how abusive, no matter how wrong, because you have determined that it is true for you.

00:07:17.000 And therefore, no one can tell you that it's wrong.

00:07:20.000 We're watching that play out in our culture right now.

00:07:23.000 A bunch of moral relativists who are crying out in some cases, not everyone who is talking about justice means this, but some people, the far left revolutionaries that we're seeing take over the streets in Portland and Seattle, crying out for justice without any solid definition of what justice is, without any solid definition of what is right and what is wrong and what is good and what is bad.

00:07:46.000 And we're seeing the results.

00:07:48.000 It's chaos.

00:07:49.000 And so as you said, a society, not only can a person not live very long without some kind of grounding truth and morality that is transcendent past what we determine for ourselves, but a society can't function like that.

00:08:05.000 You've got all these people walking around as their own gods, determining their own truth and morality, and then trying to project their own subjective truth on other people.

00:08:15.000 We see that in cancel culture.

00:08:17.000 It's like whatever was true yesterday isn't true anymore.

00:08:20.000 And so now you're canceled for not agreeing with my truth.

00:08:23.000 It's all crazy and it's unsustainable.

00:08:26.000 You're exactly right.

00:08:28.000 And so the, I actually think it creates very miserable people because then it also people then say, I have to go find my own truth.

00:08:35.000 And you're exactly right.

00:08:37.000 They, they conflate personal experience with truth.

00:08:43.000 And so someone might have had some bizarro world experience where, you know, they got struck by lightning and they say, well, my truth is that lightning is the number one threat to humanity.

00:08:54.000 Like, well, that's just not true.

00:08:56.000 Like, I'm sorry that happened to you.

00:08:59.000 I know that you're scarred by it, but that claim to try to apply it to the entire country would be silly.

00:09:05.000 And I actually think it creates very confused people.

00:09:07.000 Myth number three, you kind of talked on this before.

00:09:10.000 You're perfect the way you are.

00:09:12.000 So in response to try to give at least a little bit of rope to the people that push this myth, I think it was in response to the overbullying that probably happened when you and I were growing up.

00:09:27.000 And I think as an inappropriate reaction to that, my opinion, they said, oh, no, you're actually perfect exactly how you are today.

00:09:35.000 And I think that was mostly good intentions, not all of it.

00:09:38.000 Can you comment on that?

00:09:39.000 Because some people are like, well, that actually has given me some comfort when people tell me that.

00:09:44.000 Yes.

00:09:45.000 So I was actually going to start out answering that question in that exact way, that the people who say you're perfect the way you are, or the people who say that self-love is the most important thing and you are enough typically do have good intentions.

00:09:57.000 They're responding to that very real insecurity that so many of us feel.

00:10:01.000 I would say especially young women that we have felt like we can't measure up.

00:10:05.000 We see advertisements that look unrealistic. 0.92

00:10:07.000 We see unfair standards by feminists over here. 0.98

00:10:13.000 And then some people on the other side of the pendulum.

00:10:16.000 And so there are a lot of young women who feel like they just struggle with self-loathing and never being able to measure up.

00:10:23.000 So these people who are saying, hang on, you're enough the way you are.

00:10:25.000 You're perfect the way you are.

00:10:27.000 They are responding to very real feelings.

00:10:29.000 The problem is the underlying message there is that you have to look inside yourself and go inside yourself for confidence.

00:10:37.000 Well, if inside yourself, you've already admitted that what exists there is a lot of confusion and self-loathing and insecurity, you're not going to find the fix to those things also inside yourself.

00:10:46.000 You're going to repeat these motivational mantras.

00:10:49.000 You're going to tell yourself you're perfect the way you are.

00:10:51.000 Deep down, knowing that you're not, knowing that you're flawed, knowing that you are going to fail and to make mistakes.

00:10:58.000 The better antidote, the only antidote to those things is not, um, is not just a bunch of self-fulfillment talk and self-empowerment talk, but to look to the God who made you, who is our perfection.

00:11:14.000 Christ is our perfection.

00:11:16.000 He is our sufficiency.

00:11:18.000 We look to him to reach the standards that we can't meet.

00:11:21.000 And that confidence is stable.

00:11:23.000 That confidence doesn't change.

00:11:24.000 What you and I feel about ourselves is going to change on a day-to-day basis based on a thousand different circumstances, whether people praise us or hate us, whatever it is.

00:11:34.000 And that is exhausting.

00:11:36.000 So rather than depend on what we think of ourselves and trying to delude ourselves with this idea of self-perfection, why don't we look to the perfect creator of the universe, to the perfect savior who died for us?

00:11:48.000 That is where we find what we are worth and what our value is.

00:11:52.000 And that doesn't change.

00:11:54.000 That's a very liberating reality that it's not my perfection that satisfies me, but Christ's perfection and his love for me. 1.00

00:12:02.000 I would love to see you go on some of these kind of left-wing female podcasts.

00:12:07.000 I don't try to make this too political. 1.00

00:12:09.000 I'm not, but they do take exception at this.

00:12:11.000 It's actually more philosophical.

00:12:13.000 And I'd love to just to see you go up against them on this, the people that basically preach this nonsense all the time.

00:12:20.000 And so I hope that you're able to do that.

00:12:22.000 Number four will, because it seems like it is aligned with mostly leftist type thinking.

00:12:30.000 I'm not trying to make it too political either, but world views, I mean, they establish what you think about politics and the self.

00:12:38.000 So there is a connection.

00:12:39.000 Yes.

00:12:40.000 So number four will really, really upset a lot of these people.

00:12:44.000 I think number four out of all of them will probably get the most backlash.

00:12:49.000 I could be wrong, which is that you're entitled to your dreams.

00:12:53.000 I hear this all the time.

00:12:55.000 Tell me why that's a myth.

00:12:56.000 Yeah.

00:12:57.000 So you and I were probably raised in similar homes where we were told rightly that if you set goals and if you put your mind on something and if you work hard and God gives you the grace to do this and it's a part of his will, you can accomplish anything you want to.

00:13:10.000 My parents told me that growing up.

00:13:12.000 It wasn't a feminist message.

00:13:13.000 It was just a message of, hey, we worked really hard.

00:13:16.000 We showed you what it means to work hard and to achieve the things you want to achieve.

00:13:20.000 And you totally have the ability and the capacity to do that too.

00:13:23.000 And I'm so thankful for that.

00:13:25.000 Probably a lot of people listening to this podcast hopefully had the same upbringing.

00:13:30.000 Unfortunately, I think that a lot of young people also learned, maybe not from parents like ours, but maybe from teachers, from culture, celebrities, whatever it was, that not only, not that you have to work hard to achieve what you want to achieve, but actually anything you want will come to you.

00:13:47.000 And if it doesn't, it is unfair.

00:13:49.000 That if you don't have the job that you want, if you're not making the money that you want, if you're not given the things that you want right out of college, then there's something unjust about the system.

00:13:59.000 You have been, you have been dealt something that is unfair and you need to be angry and resentful about it rather than saying, you know what?

00:14:06.000 Life, nothing is guaranteed just because even if you work for something that you think you deserve, you're not necessarily guaranteed it.

00:14:14.000 And of course, if you don't sacrifice for something, then you're definitely not going to get it.

00:14:19.000 And so I think that this actually is probably a non-political myth.

00:14:24.000 I think people, there are young people on the left and the right who believe that I agree with that.

00:14:30.000 Yeah, I think that's exactly right.

00:14:32.000 And I think that that's probably the most bipartisan myth that's out there where people say, I'm entitled to, you know, pursue my dreams.

00:14:40.000 I'm like, well, that's probably wrong.

00:14:42.000 So I agree with that.

00:14:43.000 So number five is you can't love others until you love yourself.

00:14:48.000 You go straight to the heart of the self-love movement.

00:14:51.000 Tell us why that's wrong.

00:14:53.000 Yes. 1.00

00:14:53.000 So, this is popular even among Christian women. 1.00

00:14:58.000 They say, Well, Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself, which means that loving yourself is a prerequisite to loving your neighbor.

00:15:06.000 But if you look at the text, that is not the kind of love that Jesus is talking about.

00:15:11.000 In fact, we know that Jesus calls us to call his disciples to self-denial, to self-crucifixion, to taking up our cross and following him.

00:15:19.000 So, it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for him to give kind of a different directive.

00:15:22.000 What he means by this, by loving yourself, is the kind of love that we are all born with.

00:15:29.000 So, not necessarily affection, not the kind of love that looks in the mirror and says, Wow, I'm pretty and I'm awesome, but the kind of self-sustaining love that all of us are born with for survival.

00:15:40.000 Ephesians 5 says, No one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it.

00:15:45.000 It was Blaise Pascal we talked about in the book that said, Every man pursues his own happiness without exception.

00:15:51.000 That is true.

00:15:52.000 We were born that way, born for self-preservation.

00:15:55.000 We look to meet our needs, to quench our thirst, to satisfy our hunger.

00:15:59.000 Jesus is saying, with the same inborn love for yourself, the desire and the drive that you have to take care of yourself, apply that self-preserving love to other people.

00:16:11.000 Meet your neighbor's need.

00:16:12.000 Make sure that he has all of his needs met, that you quench his thirst, that you satisfy his hunger, that you clothe him, that you look to his interests and not only your interests.

00:16:23.000 C.S. Lewis talks about this in Mere Christianity: that the love for neighbor that Christians are called to is not about liking your neighbor.

00:16:30.000 And therefore, it's not about liking yourself either.

00:16:33.000 It is a decision to look after the interests of other people and waiting around to love other people until you have some kind of level of self-esteem and self-confidence means that you are going to miss out on very fulfilling opportunities for service and relationships that require sacrifice, but are nonetheless joy-giving.

00:16:58.000 What do you have to say about the inevitable criticism you'll receive when people say the self-help self-love movement saved my life or it was great for me?

00:17:10.000 You probably have already received this in your beginning parts of promotion.

00:17:14.000 What is your response to that?

00:17:17.000 So, I talked to a lot of women who had that same experience in writing this book because I wanted to get the perspective of people who were deep in the self-love culture.

00:17:26.000 It's very prominent among young women, I would say, especially on Facebook and Instagram, because, um, not young women, sorry, young moms, um, especially, just because we feel like we're pulled in a million different directions and that we can't ever measure up.

00:17:40.000 And so, they feed themselves these motivational mantras and self-care and self-love.

00:17:46.000 And it does, it makes us feel better, of course.

00:17:49.000 Uh, self-flattery feels really good, and it probably will help you achieve some of the goals that you have.

00:17:56.000 So, it might help you get the promotion, it might help you save money to buy the car, it might help you lose weight.

00:18:02.000 And all of those goals, by the way, are good.

00:18:06.000 But ultimately, if those are your idols, if those are the things that you are running for and that is your purpose, and you are only able to look inside yourself for the strength to accomplish those things, you're still going to be empty because you can lose the weight, organize the closet, chase after your dreams, become an entrepreneur, all of the things that the self-love crowd tells you that you deserve, and you can still end up empty and spiritually bankrupt.

00:18:32.000 And that's what happens to a lot of young moms and young women.

00:18:36.000 The ones that I talked to in writing this book, they decided they were going to pursue their own truth, find themselves.

00:18:42.000 They were going to learn what it means to really embrace self-love.

00:18:45.000 They found that a lot of the people that were propagating these lies also had very unhealthy and unhappy lives, and they ended up in unhealthy and unhappy places.

00:18:56.000 And I detail my story of how I ended up there too.

00:18:59.000 So I just want to clarify, though, to the people who say, well, you're telling me to hate myself.

00:19:04.000 You're telling me to embrace self-deprecation and just to be insecure all the time.

00:19:08.000 No, no, no, I'm not.

00:19:10.000 I am telling you to take your eyes off of what you think about you, which is ever-changing and unsatisfying, and put your eyes on Christ and who he is and what he did for you.

00:19:21.000 And in that way, you will liberate yourself from the never-ending, ever-crushing burden of being your own God and your own sufficiency.

00:19:30.000 And that is why.

00:19:31.000 That's why you're not enough.

00:19:32.000 And that's, it's not just okay.

00:19:34.000 It's really, really good news.

00:19:36.000 Would you argue or do you argue in the book that the self-love movement actually long term does more damage than good?

00:19:45.000 That it might feel good like a sugar high, but it actually does not long term fix any of the issues that are structurally, let's say, bothering people.

00:19:56.000 It absolutely will do more damage than good because again, it convinces people that they are their own gods.

00:20:03.000 It glorifies self-centeredness and selfishness.

00:20:07.000 If you read some of the books, unfortunately, by these so-called self-love gurus, they outright say that we don't need any more selfless people.

00:20:14.000 We need more people who are full of themselves.

00:20:17.000 That's what one author has written about in her best-selling book.

00:20:22.000 And so think about that.

00:20:23.000 Think about what selfishness does in your own life, how it damages your relationships and your own joy.

00:20:28.000 Just think about that on a wide scale.

00:20:30.000 If you had moms and sisters and friends and female employees, whatever it was, say that I'm going to put my wants and whatever I want and my own happiness first and everyone else just doesn't matter as much as me. 0.59

00:20:45.000 That's going to have really negative implications, not just personally, but societally.

00:20:51.000 And so I absolutely think it does a lot of damage.

00:20:54.000 Compare that trendy narcissism of what I just described to, for example, the greatest generation.

00:20:59.000 They're known not for their selfishness, but for their sacrifice.

00:21:03.000 Every hero that we know is known not for self-love, but for selflessness.

00:21:07.000 And I think that's a virtue we would do really well to embrace.

00:21:12.000 So do you think that this book can be applicable to non-believers as well?

00:21:16.000 Because obviously we're both Christians.

00:21:19.000 I think one of the things you're really touching on is that knowing you're not enough is the total depravity of human beings, that there's no way that we can actually do enough good things to grow closer to our Creator.

00:21:32.000 We just instead have to accept the ultimate gift that God gave us.

00:21:36.000 What's your thoughts on that?

00:21:37.000 Do you think that this can be applicable to people that are not yet followers of Christ?

00:21:42.000 Yes, it is an explicitly Christian book.

00:21:45.000 And you will find the gospel throughout the book.

00:21:48.000 And so if you're not a Christian and you're maybe you're even offended by the gospel, then you will be offended quite a few times in this book.

00:21:55.000 But that's okay.

00:21:56.000 I encourage you to read it and to allow yourself to be challenged.

00:21:59.000 There's a lot of practical, for example, relationship advice, job advice, what you do when you don't like your job, how to deal with difficult relationships and making sure that you are acting in a way that is selfless and is serving other people.

00:22:14.000 We talk about the damaging effect of, for example, social justice, cancel culture, and things like that.

00:22:22.000 And so if you're not a believer, there's still something to get out of it.

00:22:25.000 Of course, my purpose, my aim, my hope is that people hear the gospel.

00:22:30.000 And of course, by the grace of God, would accept Christ.

00:22:33.000 But of course, everyone can read this book.

00:22:36.000 And I do hope that anyone can get something out of it.

00:22:40.000 I'm imagining you're going to do a big tour around this and speaking to a lot of audiences, a lot of Christian women.

00:22:46.000 I'm going to be so curious to hear the response for it because a lot of Christian women, especially Christian moms, they're in this, you are the, you actually channel your inner power, like all this kind of that.

00:23:00.000 Can you just take a step back?

00:23:01.000 I should ask this at the beginning.

00:23:03.000 What was the biggest kind of like the impetus to want to write this book?

00:23:07.000 Were you just, did you just see an over-inundation of that kind of narrative and you felt the need to kind of present the biblical argument?

00:23:14.000 Or what was really what drove you to theorize this and write this book?

00:23:20.000 It was really my listeners to my podcast relatable.

00:23:24.000 You know, we talked about theology, politics, and culture.

00:23:28.000 And a lot of the people who listen to my podcast saw on Instagram and among Christian influencers in particular on Instagram talk about the importance and the primacy of self-love.

00:23:45.000 And so I just started getting a lot of questions.

00:23:47.000 Is this biblical?

00:23:47.000 Is this right?

00:23:48.000 It sounds good.

00:23:49.000 It kind of feels good.

00:23:51.000 But is this biblical?

00:23:52.000 Is this where we should be getting our confidence?

00:23:54.000 So as I dug into it, I found that number one, it's not new.

00:23:57.000 This has been very popular in psychology for decades, probably since the 1970s, the self-esteem movement.

00:24:05.000 There have been writers, journalists, psychologists who have debunked the myth that, for example, self-esteem or low self-esteem is the cause of crime, is the cause of all the bad behavior and problems in our society.

00:24:19.000 I mean, that's really a philosophy that is strong, and yet it's been debunked several times.

00:24:24.000 But it's such a popular lie and it's such an attractive lie because it makes us feel good about ourselves, at least for a moment.

00:24:31.000 It's not a lasting satisfaction, but it makes us feel good about ourselves for a moment.

00:24:36.000 And really, my main concern was seeing it seep into the church and how women's ministry started to sound more like a motivational conference that had nothing to do with Christ, nothing to do with sin, nothing to do with sanctification and holiness and everything to do with self-esteem and self-love. 0.65

00:24:55.000 And I noticed how it started wrecking people's theologies. 0.80

00:24:58.000 They were reading the Bible as if the Bible was about making them feel good rather than about glorifying God.

00:25:05.000 They were looking at the world, looking at politics, looking at society, looking at biblical issues from the lens of how does this make me feel rather than what's true. 0.99

00:25:14.000 So I was seeing devastating effects among Christian women. 0.99

00:25:17.000 And I just wanted to do, you know, the small part that I could to say, hang on, let's redirect our eyes away from ourselves and on God who never changes. 1.00

00:25:28.000 Amen.

00:25:29.000 So the book again is you are not enough and that is okay.

00:25:33.000 I encourage everyone to go pick up a copy.

00:25:35.000 I think men could actually get something out of this too.

00:25:37.000 I don't think it just has to be women.

00:25:38.000 So I think you would agree.

00:25:40.000 Pink book. 1.00

00:25:41.000 It's a pink book and it is from a woman's perspective.

00:25:44.000 But hey, if pink doesn't scare you as a man, I encourage you to pick it up and hopefully you'll get something out of it. 1.00

00:25:50.000 We do believe in two genders.

00:25:51.000 Any other closing thoughts, Allie, on this book and what you're trying to, what you're trying to communicate?

00:25:57.000 Well, I just had so much fun writing the book and I'm so excited for people to finally have it in their hands.

00:26:02.000 It was delayed.

00:26:02.000 It was supposed to come out in May.

00:26:04.000 Then because of the craziness of coronavirus, it is now out August 11th.

00:26:08.000 And if you are a woman, you can join Women's Book Club with Ali Stuckey on Facebook.

00:26:13.000 We've gone through a lot of books this year.

00:26:15.000 1984, we've gone through screw tape letters, a lot of really good books, but we'll be going through this book together.

00:26:20.000 There will be a study guide available for any women, for any woman who joins the group.

00:26:26.000 You can go lead a study on your own with this study guide if you want to as well.

00:26:30.000 But it's out August 11th.

00:26:32.000 You can go to alliebethstuckey.com slash book, and then you will be able to find all the places that you can buy the book online.

00:26:41.000 So, yeah, I'm so excited.

00:26:43.000 August 11th, and that is, I think, all the information that people need.

00:26:48.000 Well, thank you so much.

00:26:49.000 And God bless you, Allie.

00:26:51.000 Good luck.

00:26:51.000 And everyone go pick up a copy of the book.

00:26:53.000 And thanks for joining the program.

00:26:55.000 Thanks so much, Charlie.

00:26:56.000 You bet, Allie.

00:26:57.000 See you soon.

00:26:57.000 Good luck.

00:26:58.000 Bye.

00:26:59.000 Thank you.

00:26:59.000 See you soon.

00:27:01.000 What a great conversation that was with Allie Stuckey.

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00:27:17.000 Thank you guys so much for listening.

00:27:19.000 Till next time, God

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 11, 2020

You Are Not Enough (And That's Okay) w- Allie Beth Stuckey

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