The Charlie Kirk Show - 'Zuckerboxes,' $400 Million, and the Center for Tech and Civic Life with Phill Kline

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00:02:21.000 Phil, are you there?

00:02:22.000 Yeah, with you, Charlie.

00:02:23.000 Great to be with you.

00:02:24.000 Thank you for enduring my history of LBJ.

00:02:28.000 I love it.

00:02:28.000 And let me add something to it if I can.

00:02:30.000 I appreciate you sharing that story.

00:02:33.000 You know, one of the keys is not only that they stopped the counting, but LBJ knew exactly how many votes he needed.

00:02:42.000 And they found this box that suddenly turned up and it had just the number of votes.

00:02:48.000 And everybody in that box that was recorded as voting, it seems out of mere coincidence, voted in alphabetical order, used the same color ink to sign in their name, and actually had the same handwriting.

00:03:04.000 So, yes, election fraud.

00:03:07.000 In fact, archaeologists will tell you that in ancient Greece and the democracy there in Athens and the other cities, they voted by writing on pottery shards.

00:03:18.000 And they have come across evidence of old elections in which the same name of the same candidate is written in the same hand on multiple pottery shards in one election.

00:03:30.000 So it's about authority, it's about power, it's about money.

00:03:35.000 And you're telling me that there are not people willing to stretch the law and circumvent the law to be the leader of the most powerful nation on earth.

00:03:45.000 So absolutely, this is a concern, and the evidence is compelling that further investigation is needed.

00:03:52.000 So I want to introduce you to our audience.

00:03:52.000 No doubt.

00:03:55.000 Were the attorney general for the state of Kansas, and you're currently the director of the Armistad Project of the Thomas Morris Society, and you're a professor at Liberty University, which we think very highly of here.

00:04:09.000 And so, you've been doing some amazing work.

00:04:11.000 I wanted to actually take a step backwards, and just a short answer, if you can, please.

00:04:16.000 It's so important.

00:04:17.000 And if anyone watching this right now is interested in learning more about this, please go check out the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

00:04:24.000 Just take out your phone, type in Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

00:04:27.000 Because by the way, I have to tell you, Phil, it was one of the most interesting podcasts I did recently.

00:04:31.000 Our numbers on it are amazing.

00:04:33.000 Can you give us the short version of how billionaires probably bought this election, but in a way that no one is talking about through the actual corruption of how the votes were counted?

00:04:43.000 It's fascinating what you've been uncovering.

00:04:45.000 Yes, we had a billionaire in the counting room, and America was kicked out.

00:04:50.000 Specifically, Mark Zuckerberg, going back to March of 2020, was employing a man named David Plouf.

00:04:58.000 And you said short.

00:04:59.000 Okay, let me get short.

00:05:00.000 No, no, no, that's okay.

00:05:02.000 Just be thorough, but I want to get to the other stuff too.

00:05:05.000 Yeah, yeah, you put up the stop sign if I go too long.

00:05:08.000 David Plouffe wrote a book called The Citizen's Guide for Defeating Donald Trump.

00:05:12.000 And in it, he said the 2020 election is going to come down to a block-by-block street fight in turning out the vote in Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee.

00:05:21.000 Now we fast forward.

00:05:23.000 David Plouffe was working for Zuckerberg.

00:05:25.000 He leaves, but Zuckerberg suddenly flows $400 million into two sleepy 501c charities that are built by Obama activists.

00:05:36.000 One of them gets $350 million.

00:05:39.000 They start putting out activists into the swing states, recruiting Democrat strongholds to ask for money.

00:05:48.000 And then, boom, the money came.

00:05:50.000 $10 million into Philadelphia.

00:05:52.000 Zuckerberg money flows into Philadelphia and says, Philly, this is how you're going to run your election.

00:05:57.000 I will pay the election judges.

00:05:59.000 I will pay all of these people to do these satellite offices.

00:06:04.000 I will buy the machines.

00:06:05.000 And I will do this.

00:06:07.000 And if you do not do what I tell you, I'm taking all my money back.

00:06:12.000 And suddenly, Philadelphia has 800 satellite offices to turn people out.

00:06:17.000 What we call Zuckerboxes, those drop boxes on every corner.

00:06:21.000 Those are invitations to fraud, by the way.

00:06:24.000 And then in Republican areas, I'll just give you an example.

00:06:28.000 Delaware County, Pennsylvania, strong Democrat stronghold.

00:06:32.000 Zuckerberg poured money into the city.

00:06:34.000 There's one Zuckerbox every four square miles. 0.83

00:06:37.000 That's a Zuckerbox to vote within a mile of your home. 0.87

00:06:41.000 Republican areas of Pennsylvania, the 59 counties that Trump won in 2016, one Zuckerbox for every 1,100 square miles.

00:06:51.000 So here's what the government of Pennsylvania told its voters.

00:06:55.000 If you live in a Republican area, go on a weekend vacation, find Waldo to vote.

00:07:00.000 If you live in the city, we're going to drive by and pick up your ballot or just walk down the street and cast your vote.

00:07:06.000 Violation of equal protection should never happen in America where people are treated differently regarding their opportunity to vote.

00:07:06.000 That's wrong.

00:07:14.000 And so what you're saying here, just so our audience understands, a guy that's worth $100 billion, which is just creepy in and of itself.

00:07:23.000 I mean, it's creepy because of the amount of power you can wield, especially when you're basically trading on other people's data in a form of surveillance capitalism.

00:07:32.000 You're not actually making hardware.

00:07:34.000 You're basically just found a better online portal and widget of where people want to interface and you sell people.

00:07:40.000 I mean, we are the users that are literally now being traded to other companies that they can better.

00:07:46.000 That's exactly right.

00:07:47.000 So this guy's worth $100 billion.

00:07:49.000 We've all benefited from Facebook and Instagram.

00:07:49.000 That's fine.

00:07:52.000 And I just think it's a little outrageous.

00:07:54.000 But then he takes $350 million of his money, pours it into these sleepy 501c3 charities.

00:08:01.000 And what was their budget before that $350 million infusion?

00:08:06.000 At most, about $1.2 million a year.

00:08:09.000 I mean, so that's a 350 multitude of scale, right?

00:08:13.000 An increase, which is no organization would be able to handle that kind of increase unless it's a corporate takeover, right?

00:08:20.000 Unless and it's planned.

00:08:23.000 They planned it.

00:08:24.000 I mean, so let's think about this.

00:08:24.000 Precisely.

00:08:26.000 If you were Mark Zuckerberg, would you really write a $350 million check?

00:08:30.000 Would you wire $350 million?

00:08:33.000 Would you donate $350 million of Facebook stock unless you knew exactly where that was going, unless you knew what was happening?

00:08:40.000 And so then all of a sudden, what you're saying is then they put micro grants and they peppered them around in certain metro areas under these kind of Center for Technology and Civic Life charities.

00:08:52.000 These Zucker boxes were created your term.

00:08:55.000 And basically, they were also influencing who is counting the votes.

00:09:00.000 Is that right?

00:09:01.000 Well, they were paying them.

00:09:03.000 They paid the people who accepted which ballots to count.

00:09:06.000 How is that legal?

00:09:07.000 It's not.

00:09:09.000 Our opinion is it's not.

00:09:11.000 Of course, there are many who say it is, but certainly we can't privatize elections.

00:09:16.000 Now, there's a difference.

00:09:18.000 If you, Charlie, wanted to spend your money on a candidate independently, you have a right to do that.

00:09:23.000 But this is actually purchasing the government officials who run the election.

00:09:26.000 It's like you going on trial for something, and before the trial starts, you meet the judge at his home and say, you know what, Judge, I've got a few million for you.

00:09:36.000 How about that?

00:09:37.000 That can't happen in America, and it is wrong.

00:09:40.000 Yeah, so I have a question, and this just came into someone who was watching us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:09:46.000 They just emailed us.

00:09:47.000 Don't the legislatures have to approve these kind of zucker boxes?

00:09:51.000 I mean, wouldn't there have to be some form of consent from the Republican body, not the small R Republican body, right?

00:10:00.000 Where they are the representatives of the people.

00:10:03.000 Because what we're talking about here is a tectonic shift in actually how we do elections, and no one approved of this.

00:10:09.000 That's right.

00:10:10.000 It's a mixture of things.

00:10:11.000 Actually, some legislatures did, but most of it is they claimed COVID made it necessary.

00:10:18.000 You have to go into March of this year, this past year, and suddenly you saw all of these lawsuits on the left claiming it's too dangerous because of COVID to get a witness on your absentee ballot.

00:10:30.000 It's too dangerous because of COVID to have a stamp on your absentee ballot.

00:10:34.000 The state needs to pay for it.

00:10:35.000 It's too dangerous for COVID to compare signatures because it will slow things down with an absentee ballot.

00:10:42.000 Now, all of it is done under COVID fear.

00:10:45.000 And some of it was done by these executive orders by blue state governors saying, we've got to have drop boxes because it's too dangerous with COVID.

00:10:54.000 Now, here's the problem with drop boxes.

00:10:56.000 They hold tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of ballots.

00:11:00.000 So our question has always been: who had the keys?

00:11:04.000 Where's the log of who got the ballots?

00:11:06.000 Where's the chain of custody from the pickup down to these consolidated counting centers?

00:11:12.000 Did somebody pick up those ballots and stop someplace out else, dump a few, pick up a few?

00:11:18.000 You're supposed to have logs.

00:11:20.000 You remember the 24-7 video cameras that we were promised on all of this, right?

00:11:27.000 We'd watch them 24-7, everybody said with the boxes.

00:11:30.000 Just an example in one county in Pennsylvania, they got solar-powered cameras.

00:11:35.000 Now, yes.

00:11:37.000 And so they go down at night or an overcast day.

00:11:40.000 So all of this opened up the door for massive fraud.

00:11:46.000 Let me give you some evidence to think about.

00:11:49.000 We've heard for the first time in U.S. history about these consolidated counting centers.

00:11:54.000 Yes.

00:11:55.000 You know, the big arenas and stuff used to count.

00:12:00.000 They said that was necessary for COVID, right?

00:12:03.000 That's what they claimed.

00:12:05.000 Typically, the counting occurs by the ward in counties.

00:12:09.000 So it's a smaller counting system.

00:12:11.000 They say we got to create a crowd because of COVID.

00:12:15.000 That's not why they did it.

00:12:17.000 They did it for two reasons.

00:12:19.000 One, now you're moving hundreds of thousands of ballots into one location, so it's more easy to insert fraudulent ballots rather than having to run around to wards.

00:12:30.000 You've got one major center where you could do ballot dumps in the middle of the- And then the second reason they did it is because all the laws require for fairness to ensure integrity that a Republican and a Democrat be at these tables to make sure people are playing fair.

00:12:46.000 Makes sense, right?

00:12:49.000 But now they could say, we've got a Republican in the place, but he's up in the cheap seats and he can't see what's going on down here, but it doesn't matter because he's in the arena.

00:13:00.000 Those are the two reasons we had consolidated counting centers.

00:13:03.000 Well, and it's also, I mean, and this is something that people have to understand is that any numbers we're looking at here, I think of this as a complete and total outlier as far as vote tabulation and margins.

00:13:14.000 This election was unlike any other in the way we actually did the election.

00:13:19.000 And so in Pennsylvania, you're not supposed to ballot harvest, but what's to prevent someone from all of a sudden dropping off 30 ballots into one of these boxes?

00:13:26.000 All of a sudden, that ballot is then successfully laundered.

00:13:30.000 That ballot then all of a sudden gets cleaned as if you're Marty Bird in Ozark, Missouri, trying to clean cartel money.

00:13:38.000 It's no different.

00:13:38.000 As soon as it gets back into the system, then it's cleaned.

00:13:41.000 I want to ask you about this litigation that you guys have filed.

00:13:44.000 So we are talking right now to Philip Klein, former attorney general for Kansas.

00:13:49.000 A pretty amazing resume.

00:13:51.000 You're a professor at Liberty University.

00:13:52.000 And I say this intentionally to build up your credibility because there's a lot of people trying to strike down anyone that's talking about this right now.

00:13:59.000 And you guys have filed a litigation in Michigan saying, quote, officials brazenly violated election laws to advance a partisan political agenda.

00:14:08.000 What did you just file and tell us more about this?

00:14:11.000 Well, what we did is we identified all of the actions, and we've got the same suits going in Georgia, we're going to file in Arizona, in Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

00:14:23.000 We identified all the unlawful actions by election officials.

00:14:27.000 And in Michigan, they unlawfully cured ballots.

00:14:31.000 They took certain ballots and they fixed them without following the law.

00:14:36.000 And there's some other things along those lines.

00:14:39.000 Then we pulled in experts and we said, based on these illegalities, how many ballots are in play?

00:14:46.000 And we actually then reached out to voters to see if the results of their voter history reflect what they did.

00:14:55.000 And what we've learned is there's over 150,000, 200,000 ballots now that are in serious question in Michigan.

00:15:03.000 In fact, I think the number is higher once we made these phone calls.

00:15:07.000 So let me give you an example of that.

00:15:09.000 We have identified, and I don't have it in front of me, Charlie, but it will be on one of the pages of our filings, a chart that shows the number of Republican voters we reached out to who said they voted, but the state record doesn't reflect they ever voted.

00:15:24.000 Geez.

00:15:25.000 What states?

00:15:26.000 Like Michigan?

00:15:27.000 Well, we're doing it in all these states.

00:15:29.000 It occurs in all of these states where they radically altered the rules so that it's very easy, just as you mentioned, it's not only easy to put in fraudulent ballots at the Dropbox, it's pretty darn easy to remove ballots you don't want.

00:15:42.000 And this is amazing.

00:15:43.000 We have a video, and I don't know if we can show it to you right now, where there was literally a guy ripping up a Trump ballot.

00:15:49.000 We have a video of it.

00:15:50.000 And guess what?

00:15:51.000 We have no record of arrest, prosecution, or investigation.

00:15:55.000 And so I want to ask you a bigger picture question.

00:15:58.000 Charlie, you got to show me the evidence first, right?

00:16:00.000 Well, yeah.

00:16:01.000 Yeah, you got the video, but show me the evidence.

00:16:03.000 Yeah, right, exactly.

00:16:04.000 So, but can you kind of give us an idea?

00:16:07.000 You guys are filing these lawsuits.

00:16:09.000 We're playing with something very dangerous in our country right now.

00:16:12.000 And we have a lot of people emailing us, you know, the questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:16:17.000 People are saying, I've lost complete and total faith in the justice system in our elections.

00:16:22.000 This is a very dangerous point for a civilization.

00:16:24.000 As soon as you lose faith in your elections, what comes next is unknown, but it's not good.

00:16:30.000 We know that much.

00:16:31.000 Can you help?

00:16:32.000 Can you just give us kind of a more bigger picture view of what's going on here, the litigation you're looking into, and how did this happen?

00:16:39.000 How did all of a sudden, how are they allowed to change the way we do elections like this?

00:16:43.000 I guess the virus is the answer.

00:16:46.000 COVID fear.

00:16:47.000 They manipulated fear to achieve partisan aims in the election.

00:16:51.000 And we see that in all the rules they set aside and how they approached it.

00:16:56.000 And you see the intent also at the beginning in that all of the polling, all of our understanding of how Republicans behave and Democrats behave going into this election cycle was that Republicans prefer to vote in person on election day.

00:17:14.000 Democrats prefer to vote in advance by absentee.

00:17:18.000 And what you started to see is closing down in-person polling, making it harder than in more than a generation to vote in person, claiming COVID was the concern.

00:17:29.000 At the same time, you saw the consolidation of counting centers because of COVID.

00:17:34.000 You saw then the radical change in allowing absentee ballots without reason, mailing to every household whether they requested it or not, eliminating things like the signature requirement, witness requirements, and everything else to make it easy to infuse fraudulent ballots into the absentee balloting system.

00:17:56.000 And then you saw Zuckerberg money funding turnout in Democrat strongholds by changing government policies to favor Biden and turn out Hillary Clinton voters for Biden.

00:18:07.000 All of that undermines the integrity of this election dramatically and made it the most lawless election in United States history.

00:18:17.000 So just as you've seen the use of COVID to restrict every aspect, relational aspect of your life, whether you have to wear the mask above the nose or below it, whether it's six feet or five feet, 11 inches from another person, whether you can attend a funeral or be with a loved one as they're dying or get the surgery that you need.

00:18:38.000 Just as they used COVID, by the way, the science doesn't support all that.

00:18:42.000 Where do you see the scientific debate on this?

00:18:45.000 And also, I would add this: the legislature can function.

00:18:49.000 These powers where governors saying, I'm not a part of the lawmaking process.

00:18:54.000 I am the law.

00:18:55.000 What I wake up and say is the law is only supposed to happen if the legislature's in a bunker.

00:19:02.000 We have faith in democracy to work out policy, not dictatorship.

00:19:06.000 So this COVID fear has been used to justify all these radical changes and suspension of rights.

00:19:14.000 So that's where you started to see it.

00:19:16.000 And you started to see it as part of a design.

00:19:20.000 What they did based on COVID fear.

00:19:23.000 So part of a design, I want to make sure I plug your website to is it got space freedom?

00:19:29.000 Got dash or hyphen freedom.

00:19:31.000 Okay, got-freedom.org.

00:19:35.000 So this was by design.

00:19:36.000 This is an inevitable question I get all the time.

00:19:39.000 Who are the designers?

00:19:42.000 Well, I believe the man with the wallet.

00:19:45.000 Now, I could step back from that and say it's really David Plouf.

00:19:50.000 He gave a guidebook to how to win this election that he published in March 2020.

00:19:55.000 And that's exactly where Zuckerberg's monies flowed.

00:19:58.000 And you start to see as early as March, the scholarly writings on the left were falling in love with what's called emergency police powers, governors declaring the law, rather than having to go to the legislature and propose a bill.

00:20:14.000 So you see them start to discuss, you know, we need to use this for environmental emergencies.

00:20:19.000 This allows us to achieve policy aims we can't achieve through the democratic process.

00:20:26.000 So the left has fallen in love with this.

00:20:29.000 And if you go backwards a little ways further, you will see that they were already proposing different type of dramatic emergencies declared by government, specifically regarding the environment, so that they could suspend state law and confiscate property, shut down businesses that they believed were polluting the environment.

00:20:49.000 So, you know, this has been a model of the left that they've tried to muscle up with for some time.

00:20:56.000 And it took COVID fear to achieve the objective of a national declaration of emergency and state declarations so that these governors can run roughshod over the First Amendment, over the Second Amendment, which gives the legislatures the power to determine the time, place, and manner of elections.

00:21:16.000 And I jumped, the Article 2, I meant, and then other amendments as well.

00:21:21.000 They're talking about gun violence emergencies and so forth.

00:21:25.000 So the model, the design has been around for a while.

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00:22:57.000 So I want to get your thought here.

00:22:59.000 I heard this from an unrelated source, and I'm very careful sharing things like this.

00:23:04.000 A friend of mine in California who is running for office, a friend of his was running for office.

00:23:11.000 Anyway, he was contacted by the FBI about a potential FBI investigation into voter fraud across the country.

00:23:20.000 And so right now we also have another piece of verification of the FBI contacting Matt Brainard about the Voter Integrity Project's findings that indicate illegal ballots.

00:23:33.000 Have you heard anything about this?

00:23:35.000 You ran the Attorney General's office for a major state, Kansas.

00:23:39.000 Can you give us some more information into that?

00:23:42.000 Yeah, Matt is a part of our project.

00:23:44.000 We've retained Matt for the last month, and he is one of the experts that we cite to in our pleadings.

00:23:52.000 We also have a mathematician and others, and so he's part of the story.

00:23:56.000 And just recently, the FBI did meet with MAP to obtain data as it relates to the project that we've got going forward.

00:24:04.000 I will say that there's other law enforcement interests that is happening as well.

00:24:09.000 But these type of investigations from the criminal standpoint take time.

00:24:14.000 And I wouldn't expect a Justice Department investigation to act in time to impact this election.

00:24:23.000 And that's why it's important that we continue to ask the right questions and demand answers, because I believe the evidence is clear that this election should not stand as it stands today.

00:24:39.000 So you're saying that there's probably significant interest then into these investigations from a criminal nature.

00:24:46.000 They do take time.

00:24:48.000 I'm afraid that in some ways, though, there is not enough zeal from some of these federal agencies looking into this, especially the FBI and the DOJ.

00:24:59.000 It seems like the priorities that a lot of these law enforcement agencies have had have been completely backwards.

00:25:04.000 What do you think you're now investigating this through your means?

00:25:13.000 I think that if you had subpoena power, I would imagine you would be able to find a lot more.

00:25:19.000 And that's why I don't understand why a lot of these other state attorney generals in Republican states aren't looking into this more, but that's beyond me.

00:25:26.000 What do you think the path forward is then?

00:25:28.000 What do you expect to see in your lawsuits and what you're presenting in court right now?

00:25:37.000 What is your path forward for what you would consider to be a victory?

00:25:40.000 Well, we've got several suits that are going before state Supreme Courts that I'm hopeful that those states will seriously consider the evidence that we put before them.

00:25:50.000 And we intend to appeal their decisions if they do not rule in our favor to the United States Supreme Court.

00:25:57.000 We are still developing evidences that we hope will become part of the public narrative.

00:26:03.000 And you're going to hear some of that evidence that we will be releasing this week, which causes severe concern about the integrity of the election in several of these swing states.

00:26:14.000 So it's taken a while to develop that evidence.

00:26:17.000 You know, one of the mistakes we make is we trot out a link in the chain without telling the story.

00:26:24.000 And when we put all the weight on one link of the chain, it dissolves very quickly under public scrutiny.

00:26:31.000 And as we discussed the last time I was on the show, Charlie, we now know how they did this.

00:26:38.000 We know that they first recognized that you can't count what you can't see.

00:26:43.000 So they kicked everybody out who could watch their conduct.

00:26:47.000 And then they, and we know how they did it.

00:26:50.000 And we know that the officials who were paid to do that were being paid through Mark Zuckerberg money.

00:26:55.000 And now we also recognize that they determined that you can't steal what you can't find.

00:27:02.000 So they identified ways to steal ballots.

00:27:05.000 And I want to share with you an example.

00:27:07.000 And I forget whether we went over this last time.

00:27:10.000 For the first time in our nation's history, you saw blue state election officials doing contracts with third parties giving them access to the voter rolls so that they could actually enter registered voters.

00:27:24.000 So who was doing who, like, just, can you just name specifics on that?

00:27:28.000 It's so stunning.

00:27:30.000 Rock the vote. 0.73

00:27:31.000 So Rock the Vote, who we've dealt with before, they claim to be nonpartisan, and their idea of nonpartisan is to talk about climate change and transgenderism, open borders, BLM Incorporated all day long. 0.53

00:27:43.000 That's their idea of nonpartisan.

00:27:45.000 Who's behind Rock the Vote?

00:27:47.000 And what you're trying to tell me is that Rock the Vote, which is nothing more than a Marxist insurgency organization, had back-end access to Secretary of State's websites?

00:27:58.000 Front-end access.

00:27:59.000 I'll give you the front-end here in a minute. 0.98

00:28:02.000 You know, typically, if you were doing a voter registration drive, like the League of Women Voters, you would fill out a form and they would take it down to the election clerk.

00:28:11.000 The election clerk would then enter it into the electronic data.

00:28:15.000 And that's important for a couple of reasons.

00:28:17.000 First of all, the election clerk's role is defined by a geography, a county.

00:28:24.000 So it's easy to find mistakes.

00:28:27.000 Secondly, they're subject to freedom of information requests because they're a public entity.

00:28:33.000 And thirdly, they have political accountability.

00:28:35.000 You can vote them out if they do wrong.

00:28:37.000 Rock the vote has none of these.

00:28:40.000 Yet now they had the opportunity to enter data into the polling books of these states that contracted with them.

00:28:49.000 And there's other groups as well.

00:28:50.000 Now, I want to make it clear.

00:28:52.000 That doesn't mean that Rock the Vote.

00:28:55.000 I'm not saying they committed fraud.

00:28:57.000 I'm saying that anybody with a modicum of computer talent could have populated through the Rock the Vote interface our election poll books with false persons and identities right and left to create voters that don't exist.

00:29:13.000 And in fact, we're getting evidence that these voters who don't exist voted.

00:29:18.000 And I'm getting affidavits in that regard.

00:29:21.000 So we opened up the front door.

00:29:23.000 All of this worry about hacking from Russia or China on our poll books.

00:29:28.000 No, we were hacked from within because we were lax in sharing the front door with private groups. 0.55

00:29:35.000 So was this Georgia?

00:29:37.000 Was this national?

00:29:38.000 What states opened up their books to Rock the Vote?

00:29:43.000 I want to know what states did this.

00:29:45.000 Michigan and Pennsylvania that we know of, and we believe other groups in these swing states, and we're demanding the information now.

00:29:52.000 So let's just take Pennsylvania.

00:29:54.000 How on earth did a Republican legislature not know that Rock the Vote, which is a Marxist organization, you go to their website, it's all the same sort of icon and graphics and logos of all the social justice warrior movements out there.

00:30:11.000 Were people aware of this, or did this happen so rapidly?

00:30:14.000 Did this happen so dramatically?

00:30:18.000 It was just so aggressive in the way they put it forward and it was so sudden that no one really realized any of this.

00:30:24.000 It was the Secretary of State.

00:30:26.000 The Secretary of State of Pennsylvania is a Democrat.

00:30:29.000 And the Secretary of State of Michigan.

00:30:32.000 They gave their entire infrastructure then over to Rock the Vote.

00:30:39.000 They have an information sharing contract with Rock the Vote that allowed them to enter data into the poll books.

00:30:47.000 And now on the back end.

00:30:49.000 Now on the back end, you can't catch what you can't find.

00:30:49.000 Unbelievable.

00:30:54.000 Now, to cover it up, there's a group called the Center for Election Innovation and Research that Zuckerberg gave $50 million to.

00:31:02.000 You know what they do?

00:31:04.000 They do the software on the poll books.

00:31:08.000 And so what's amazing to me, Phil, though, is that philosophically, the Democrats and the left have always been complaining about the potential privatization of our elections and democracy.

00:31:19.000 What you're trying to tell me now is a small group of very powerful people that don't create anything in the hardware space that basically sell us.

00:31:28.000 Not just influence, but they got their way in a plutocratic type way.

00:31:32.000 Essentially, Democrats complained for a while about the idea of the Koch brothers coming in and having all this influence.

00:31:41.000 And then they said, well, if they can do it, we can do it better.

00:31:44.000 And no one will attack us because we control the means of communication.

00:31:47.000 And then they used the fear around the Chinese coronavirus.

00:31:51.000 And we as Republicans did nothing to contest on this terrain.

00:31:56.000 Well, I'll just share with you kind of my perspective from when I served in the legislature.

00:32:02.000 I enjoyed working with people from both parties who had principle, who believed that there was a truth, and that truth guided them in their conduct, and their virtue was defined by that truth and their conduct in accordance with it.

00:32:18.000 That's, you know, I found that in both parties.

00:32:20.000 But I found a majority of people who served in the legislature, they believed just being there rendered them virtuous.

00:32:28.000 In other words, that democracy was inherently virtuous.

00:32:31.000 The procedure is not virtuous.

00:32:33.000 Virtue is the conduct of people, not a process.

00:32:37.000 In fact, democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.

00:32:41.000 Unless virtue's in the equation, the sheep will always get eaten.

00:32:45.000 So I will say that there are principled leaders in both political parties, but right now, the dominant political theory is if I'm there, I have a right to do as I desire to do to keep me there because my being there in and of itself is virtue.

00:33:03.000 And that's what you're seeing play out right now.

00:33:06.000 Absolutely incredible.

00:33:07.000 So can you just give a kind of closing thought here?

00:33:11.000 Where are you really focusing a lot of your attention?

00:33:14.000 Where are you looking at?

00:33:16.000 And also, what do you think, what have you learned in the last couple of weeks that has really told you, really informed you of the state of our elections in our country?

00:33:27.000 Just give us a big picture update and then where you're really going to be focusing on in particular.

00:33:31.000 All right.

00:33:31.000 This was an orchestrated and concerted effort to dramatically and improperly influence this election for a specific result that was manifested through something we've never seen before.

00:33:46.000 And that's private-public partnerships that shared sensitive data on individual citizens with the private sector so that they would have front door access to manipulate the election. 0.96

00:33:57.000 And that was played out and funded by a billionaire who not only is engaged now in censorship and that he believes we are too stupid to understand the truth, so he has to protect us from ourselves. 0.90

00:34:10.000 He's also now playing a role in how we choose our leaders. 0.66

00:34:14.000 That money was teamed up with other funds from Google and big tech to directly purchase election officials in managing the election, creating a two-tier election system, one making it easy, almost impossible for Democrats not to vote, and one making it difficult for Republican areas to vote.

00:34:35.000 Those things combined violate equal protection, and the Supreme Court needs to take up that case.

00:34:40.000 And if the case gets to them in that fashion, they will act because it is wrong.

00:34:48.000 The odds of that are still long.

00:34:50.000 And this nation must persist in exploring, revealing, and preventing this from ever happening again.

00:34:59.000 Absolutely.

00:35:00.000 It's really chilling.

00:35:01.000 How can people help you?

00:35:03.000 You mentioned the website.

00:35:05.000 I appreciate that.

00:35:06.000 Got-freedom.com, got-freedom.org or com either way.

00:35:12.000 And I covet your prayers.

00:35:15.000 And the prayers would simply be that we be transparent to God's purposes.

00:35:20.000 This town, Charlie, you've been up here, I know.

00:35:23.000 This town operates in a false premise with false gods, and it drags you into places you don't need to be involved in.

00:35:32.000 We need to focus on the truth and be purveyors of the truth and be humble enough to have the courage within our Father's promises.

00:35:41.000 I would ask for those prayers.

00:35:43.000 Well, we will continue to pray and to support you.

00:35:47.000 And I guess I do have one last question, which is for the people that feel hopeless, what is your message for them?

00:35:53.000 Because a lot of people are emailing us.

00:35:55.000 They're saying, I'm just ready to give up.

00:35:56.000 We don't believe that here.

00:35:58.000 That's why we're doing what we're doing.

00:35:59.000 Can you just give a message of hope?

00:36:02.000 Yes, I don't look to government for hope.

00:36:05.000 I don't look to government for hope.

00:36:08.000 And I have a great and respect for what America can and should be.

00:36:14.000 And often we've fallen short.

00:36:16.000 But I have my hope vested in a place that cannot be taken by the enemy, that is sure in the promises of God.

00:36:26.000 Put your hope there.

00:36:27.000 Get this relationship strong, and he'll lead you in all other things of other relationships.

00:36:34.000 So I know this might be bold to say, because I want to stand for this country and all the truths and all the beauty involved in it, but I don't place my hope there.

00:36:46.000 Well, that's very well said.

00:36:48.000 So everyone, it's got-freedom.org.

00:36:50.000 Phil, keep fighting.

00:36:51.000 And I want you to come back on our program as you continue to march the litigation through this process.

00:36:57.000 And I just have to say, what you are doing right now through trying to uncover how people that have 12-figure net worth are influencing our entire republic is so critical because that's a part of this that no one is talking about, about how they have $100, $130, $140 billion in net worth.

00:37:23.000 And now they say, shut up, citizen and little person.

00:37:26.000 I want to now be able to tell you what to think. 0.98

00:37:29.000 It's very creepy.

00:37:30.000 It's wrong.

00:37:31.000 It's chilling.

00:37:31.000 And that will be the death of America if we don't rise up against it.

00:37:34.000 And isn't it amazing that Donald Trump, the person they said was the billionaire candidate, had money from the plutocrats being spent against him.

00:37:45.000 It only confirms everything we've been talking about here for quite some time.

00:37:48.000 Phil, thank you so much for joining us tonight.

00:37:50.000 Thank you, Charlie.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - December 01, 2020

'Zuckerboxes,' $400 Million, and the Center for Tech and Civic Life with Phill Kline

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