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The Classically Abby Podcast
- January 09, 2023
Ep 1 | I'm Not Judgy, I'm Looking Out For You.
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Word Count
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Sentence Count
438
Misogynist Sentences
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Hate Speech Sentences
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Hello, Classic Crew, and welcome to the first episode of the Classically Abbey podcast.
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I'm so excited to be recording here and doing it for the first time completely unedited. So
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if you don't know, usually on YouTube, you're able to just kind of talk and if you make mistakes,
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then you'll re-record things and you'll edit them. And it's very different than just sitting
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and talking and knowing that you can't cut anything out, which is stressful for a YouTuber.
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It's just like a new thing that we're doing here. And I'm very excited about it, but I'm also kind
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of nervous. So we'll see how it goes. Welcome to my kitchen. That's where we're filming. I hope you
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like this background. Who knows if it will change, but that's where we're starting out. And I wanted
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to tell you guys a little bit about what this podcast is going to be. So this podcast centers
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on classic living and traditional values, navigating the modern era as a traditional woman, as well as
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conversations with other people in this space. So I'm going to be kind of alternating episodes
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where I will be doing my own content, which I will describe in just a minute, kind of the segments
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that we're going to do over here, as well as interspersing those with episodes where I interview
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women and men who are in this space and who kind of want to talk about traditional values
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and all of the stuff that we like over here at Classically Abbey. So I'm really excited
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about that. This podcast gives strength to the women who reject the modern narrative of womanhood
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and instead embrace real femininity. So that's the concept of the podcast. I'm really glad you're
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here. And before we get further into today's episode, if you aren't already subscribed to my podcast,
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make sure to subscribe so that you can get updates every time I post a new episode. And if you aren't
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subscribed to my YouTube channel, make sure to subscribe and hit that notification bell. So I'm
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very excited to have you here. I probably have said excited like 15 times. I need to relax.
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One other thing I want to mention is I would love if you would consider heading over to my
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sub stack where you will get access to a ton of exclusive content, including my weekly exclusive
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articles, my book club, my movie club, and submitting questions for this podcast. So I used to do a
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live stream Q&A on my YouTube channel, but I recently decided what I'm going to do kind of to
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replace that is if you are a premium subscriber on my sub stack, which is only $7 a month or $70 for
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the year, which means you get two months for free, then you can submit questions. And each episode,
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I will respond to a couple of questions from you all. So it's a really great deal. We have a really
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great community of women over there, and I think you'll really love it. So go ahead and check it
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out. It's classicallyabby.substock.com. So let me tell you a little bit about how the show is going
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to be divided up. So every episode, we will start off with an intro where we catch up. It's kind of my
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version of the scoop. If you follow me on YouTube, you'll know I've done episodes of something called
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The Scoop, where we just kind of chat about what's going on in the world, what's going on in our lives,
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stuff like that. Then I'm going to follow that up with the main portion of the episode. That might
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be something regarding classic living. It might be regarding something about motherhood. It might
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be something that's going on in the zeitgeist, but it's going to be kind of the bulk of the episode.
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Then we're going to move on to our faith talk. So I haven't done quite a lot of this on my channel,
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and I miss doing it. I've done it before, but not as much as I would like to. And now we're going to
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bring that back into focus. So I am a religious Jew, in case you didn't know that. And I really
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like talking about faith and our journeys and our relationship to God. So this week, at least,
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and we'll see how it goes moving forward, we're going to go off of the Torah portion or the Parsha.
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And you'll see where we go with that. And then lastly, we'll finish off with subscriber questions
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and answering questions from those premium subscribers on my sub stack. So that's what
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you can expect from each episode. And then on the episodes where I'm interviewing people,
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then there might be kind of shortened versions of the intro. The main portion would be the interview,
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and we might skip the faith talk. But at the end, we would do a subscriber question
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that I would pose to the interviewer, and we would discuss it together. So that's going to be
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pretty great. And as you can see, I've got my laptop in front of me, so I can reference all of
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my notes because it's a little different doing a podcast. I hope that this is something you guys
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enjoy. It's a little bit different for me. So let's get into it. First thing I want to talk about
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is what the main topic of today is going to be, which is why I encourage women to be classic.
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So I talk about being classic all the time. And what I mean when I talk about being classic,
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I want to kind of explain that a little bit. But why do I encourage it? Why is it so important?
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So many people get offended when you kind of tell them that there's a better way to live,
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and they think that it's coming from a place of judgment. And I'm here to explain why it isn't.
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So that's going to be the main portion of today's episode. But if you like the podcast and you're
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enjoying it, make sure to share it with your friends and family. So let's get into the life
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updates. If you're new here, I'm married with a nine-month-old baby. I will be married for
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five years in May, which is crazy. I can't believe time has flown by that quickly. And my son is the
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cutest. We call him Mr. Baby over here. What will we call him when he gets older? I don't actually
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know. Mr. Boy, perhaps. Especially as we have more children, then that baby will be Mr. or Mrs. Baby.
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And we'll have to kind of figure out the names for what we call him and them. So if you didn't know,
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I also keep the identity of my baby under wraps. I mean, I don't show his face on social media and
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I don't use his name because he didn't consent to it. And also the internet is a terrible place
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and people hate me a lot, so they don't need to hate my son. So I decided not to share that
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information. So that's why I call him Mr. Baby. But I love being a mom and I love being a wife.
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I used to be a professional opera singer. If you didn't know that, that's where partly why I chose the
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name Classically Abby because I was a classically trained opera singer. And I moved away from that
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partly due to COVID. That just kind of stopped a lot of the performing stuff that was going on in
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the world. But even before COVID, it wasn't going to be my full-time career because I wanted to be
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able to devote my time to my family. And being an opera singer is really not conducive to that.
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You're traveling all the time. You're just away from your family. And it's just too hard.
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And I didn't want that. So I ended up doing content creation, talking about the stuff that
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I'm really passionate about. I feel that this is my mission to talk about classic living and
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traditional values and modern femininity and helping women find their place in this world
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that's telling them all of the things that they should be doing that will only lead them down a
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path of unhappiness. I've been a content creator for about three years now. And that's kind of my
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background. So one of the things I want to mention today, if you're watching, is my hair.
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So I used hot rollers today. I've been trying to figure out kind of my daily schedule. Because
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let's be honest, having a routine with a baby is very difficult, especially because babies change and
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grow so quickly that as soon as you get used to one rhythm, everything changes and that rhythm is
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no longer relevant. So Mr. Baby crawls like crazy nowadays. And he is just getting into everything.
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So trying to even sit down to do my makeup, do my hair and film is the whole process. It's almost
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impossible. So I just recently had a discussion with my mom because she comes over and helps for
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about an hour every day and said like, OK, here's what we can do to actually make this time the most
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effective. And so I sat down this morning and I decided that hot rollers were probably the easiest
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and most effective way to get my hair done quickly so that I can sit down and film. Well, this is what
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we're left with. I'm feeling very, very Texas. So I'm not I'm not mad at it. I like it. But it's
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it's pretty intense. And I showed it to my husband. He was like, yeah, you look like you belong in Texas,
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but I like it. So that's where that's where my hair is at. I film facing my pool. So that's reminding
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me that we just got our pool fence installed. And that was a great move. Right. Because if you have
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little ones, it's very dangerous to have just an open pool. You don't know if you can always keep
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eye on your children. You want to make sure that they're safe. And for us, since we host a lot of
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meals on Sabbath, we wanted to be able to host them in our backyard at our table. But when people
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come over with their little kids, they can't really just relax because the kids could have
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like a dangerous situation. So we just got this pool fence installed. We're very excited about it.
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It's not the most beautiful thing in the world because what pool fence is, but it is also really
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helpful just to allow us to relax with our friends. And that's really the most important thing.
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Another fun thing that happened this week. I had my siblings over last night and we played
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Jackbox, which was a lot of fun. So I don't know if you've heard of Jackbox TV. I think you can get
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it on a few different gaming services. It's party games that you play on your phone and everybody
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kind of uses their phone as a notepad or a template or something like that. And we played some games.
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It was really fun. We had a great time. And I recommend checking out Jackbox TV if you are
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interested in something like that. We love board games. We love party games, things you should know
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about us. We love all sorts of games. So if you like strategy games, we like those. If you like
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party games, we like those. And Jackbox is just one of those really easy party games.
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So last but not least, my husband and I took a trip to Miami just recently between
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Christmas and New Year's. And we learned some interesting things. And maybe I'll do a future
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podcast episode on this about how to travel with someone who maybe you don't necessarily 100% agree
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on your travel style. So some people love to like run out and go and see absolutely everything that
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they can in a new location. And some people like to relax and just kind of do a beach vacation.
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And some people enjoy the feeling of living in a new place, not touring in a new place,
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but living in a new place. So I'm pretty flexible when it comes to how I take vacations. I probably
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could enjoy any vacation that I took. So if it was like a touring vacation, I might like that. If it
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was a beach vacation, I might like that. But my husband very much enjoys the third kind, where you feel
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like you're living in an area where you don't get in your car to drive anywhere. You just get a hotel
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and you or an Airbnb and you enjoy where you are. You walk around, you get to know your favorite cafe
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if you're there for three or four days. Like it's just like you're living there. And it took us a day
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or two to remember that because it had been such a long time since the two of us and now Mr. Baby
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had gone on a trip together that we almost didn't remember what our travel styles were.
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And so by the end of the first couple of days, we were both a little bit grumpy, just thinking like,
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why are we not having as good of a time as I know we could? And once we realized, oh, it's because
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we're not doing the travel style that we enjoy together, then we were able to shift our plans
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and say, okay, so we're going to cancel these like long drives we have planned, these tours that we
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want to go on. And instead, we're going to just hang out around this neighborhood. And we ended up
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having an amazing time. So if you are like struggling with the travel, with traveling with someone you love
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and you want to have a good time, but it's just like not really working, consider having a discussion
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about how to make that better. Because it may be that one of you is having a great time because
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you enjoy the sort of vacation you're on while the other person is totally not into that kind
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of vacation and is feeling like it's a waste of time. So have a discussion and then maybe you'll
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be able to figure out how to make the most of your trip. So that was just, I didn't mean to give a
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piece of advice. It was usually I'm like just kind of catching up and telling you things, but I felt
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like that was relevant. So now let's get into the main portion of today's episode, which is why I
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encourage women to be classic. So often, as I mentioned earlier, people think when I'm talking
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about being classic, that I'm coming from a place of judgment, that I judge people who aren't classic,
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that I sit over here and go like, you're dumb for not doing what I'm doing. That's wrong. The truth is
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when I'm talking about being classic, it comes from a place of wanting people to be happy. I know that
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that's almost hard to picture, but really when I'm talking about being classic, it's because I know
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that being classic and maintaining traditional values leads people to live happier lives and be,
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have more meaning, have more purpose. The truth is that women have gotten more anxious and more
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depressed since they have lost their meaning and purpose. I feel really passionately about this.
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I read this article and I'm going to, I know what I'm going to do if I, oh gosh, I forgot to mention
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my hard drive with all of my work on it has been broken by Mr. Baby pulling it down from where it sits.
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So I have to try and get all of my information off of it. But on that hard drive is an article
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that I am really passionate about because I've, it's written by a colonel. It was written in like
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the fifties or sixties. And I think it was written in the sixties because it was post sort of like the,
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it was the beginning of, of feminist ideology starting to pervade women's ideology. And the
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interesting thing about that article is that it really talks about how women have been divorced
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from their meaning and purpose as wives and mothers. And because of that, there are more
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anxious and more depressed because they don't have the clear picture of what they are for.
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So as we've told women that motherhood and being a wife is just kind of like a choice,
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something that you don't have to do that some people want to do, but it's just like
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something that's been forced on you by the patriarchy. And really your meaning comes from
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everything else. Women have actually gotten more anxious and more depressed because
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they're making bad choices that are leading them away from the choices that would give them
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meaning and purpose and fulfillment. The truth about it is that as women have, here's the real
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thing, right? There's a very small percentage of women, 1%, 2% that don't actually want children,
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that don't want to have children, that don't want to get married, that are happier doing something
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else. But the narrative is that half of women want that. That like you, it could be a 50-50 shot with
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you, that perhaps you will want those things, perhaps you won't. That is the biggest lie that feminism
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has told women. That it's like, maybe you'll want those things, totally incorrect. 99% of women want those
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things. And when we give women this picture of like, oh, well, you'll see, it really leads women down a path
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of making poor choices, making bad decisions that make those huge, important life goals of being a wife
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and being a mother more difficult to come by. As you are putting all of your energy into a career that
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may preclude you meeting the right guy, or may preclude you having children, you are really ending
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up making choices that are pushing you away from the things that you need to do to feel good about
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yourself. And not only good about yourself, but have purpose in your life. I'm not saying that careers can't
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be fulfilling. But they are not going to bring you ultimate fulfillment. Right? I love my job. I love what I do.
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It brings me meaning and purpose. And I really, really like it. But if I had to choose between this job
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and being a mother or being a wife, this job wouldn't even come close. And the problem is,
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is that we've positioned it like, oh, they're equal. If you are super successful in your career,
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you may not need to be a mother and a wife. And it's just incorrect.
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One of the things I've been thinking about is when we make being a mother and a wife a burden
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rather than a gift, then women had to find their meaning in other places. Right? And when I say
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that being a mother and a wife is a burden, that is not an exaggeration. We're talking about Betty
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Friedan. We're talking about The Feminine Mystique. That's the book that she wrote. And in that, in this
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ideology, feminists told women that men get to go to work. They get to leave the house where you have to
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stay chained, back at home, raising the children. Instead of saying men don't get to work, men have to work.
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Right? The picture that we have in 2023 and when the show came out, I don't remember the exact year,
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but I'm thinking of Mad Men. Right? Mad Men is the exact picture of like what feminists think was
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wrong with the 1950s. Right? Men get to go to work. They get to have a party. They get to sleep with
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their secretaries. And the women are home alone, depressed, raising the kids. That is false. That is
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not real. Men have to work to support their families. Now, does that mean that the men,
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that all men hate their jobs? No. But if men had the opportunity to stay home with their kids and
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their wives, I think a lot of them would love to do that. I mean, look at kind of how things have
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played out since COVID. We have many, many people choosing to work remotely because they'd rather be at
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home. And men have to work, not get to work. Women have to get to, women get to take care of the
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children and take care of their homes. And some of them get to do some work as well. And all of this
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is a grass is always greener thing of like, I'm sure some men look at their wives and think, oh,
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I wish that I got to stay at home and take care of the kids all day. And some women look at their
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husbands and think, oh, I wish I got to go to work. But the truth is that we have different roles.
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Now, those roles can change in specific situations, but generally women would like to be at home with
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the kids, even if we're told that like it's a prison. As Betty Friedan wrote, women who adjust as
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housewives who grow up wanting to be just a housewife are in as much danger as the millions
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who walked to their own death in the concentration camps. They are suffering a slow death of mind and
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spirit. Yeah. I mean, this is where so much of this feminist ideology started. So all of these
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feminists who say, no, it's all about what women want to do. If a woman wants to stay at home,
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then she can. If a woman wants to go to work, then she can.
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They don't really think that. They don't really think that. They think that we live in a patriarchy,
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that women are constantly victims and men are constantly oppressors. And there's no way to
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break out of that. And if women had the opportunity to go to work, they would. But women have to be with
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their kids. No. Women get to be with their kids. I think the reason I'm talking about all of this
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is because as we encourage women away from those choices that will bring them joy and happiness and
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goodness to their lives, we're also leading them away from making the choices that would bring them
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ultimate happiness and joy. I think being classic is important. And the reason I tell women to be
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classic because I want to see them be happy. Okay. So now I think we have a question here of how do
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women find meaning and fulfillment before they have children and get married? This was something I
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struggled with as I was talking about, you know, the two things that I always talk about for women
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is being a wife and being a mother. Now, again, I don't think that you can't work. I just think you
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have to have your priorities in line. And I think you have to understand what comes first. I think that
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one of the things that gets me is women who talk about going to work rather than being at home with
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their kids if they had the option. There are women who have to work because they need to help support
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their families. And then there are the women who want to work. And so they hand off their kids to
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someone else that I'm not, I'm not as much a fan of. I think that women, if they have the choice to
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be at home and can be at home, they should be, they should be at home with their, with their kids.
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Now, if their kids are in school, then great, use that time and work. But if your kids are at home,
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then what are you doing by choosing to do something rather than raise your children? The ultimate,
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the thing that's of ultimate importance.
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But women who are not yet married and who don't have children yet, they still have value. I did a whole
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video on my YouTube channel about this. They're still really important. So what do they do well
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before that happens? How do they find meaning and fulfillment? Through constant bettering and
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improvement of themselves. And by spending time with friends at that same era of life.
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By moving toward a goal, but also appreciating where they're at. I think we often, if you,
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if you tell people that they need to be working towards something, they have to like, in their
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heads, hate the place that they're at. And that's just wrong. You can say, I'm happy where I'm at.
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And also I'm going to make choices that will eventually lead me to where I want to go.
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So there's very much meaning and fulfillment and joy to be had before you have children and before you
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get married. But you have to make the choices that will lead you in the best direction. And that's
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why I tell women to be classic. Because if they don't line up things in the right way to bring them
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towards those things that they're aiming for, then they're going to end up not getting the things
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that they truly need and want. One of the things I don't like about this ideology, this feminist
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ideology is that as soon as women are put in the position of having to choose between motherhood
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and work, they feel guilty when they realize that motherhood is more important to them than keeping up
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with the feminist narrative. There's a reason that women make less than men. And it's not because
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there's a wage gap. It's because women choose to do different jobs or let or not work. Women choose
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to be at home with their kids. But then, and I've talked to so many friends like this, and I struggled
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with it. There's a feeling of guilt that you're not being a girl boss. And instead, you're just you're just
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being a mom. That's a really poisonous worldview and outlook that we've put on women.
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So at the end of the day, being classic brings contentment because you love what you were made
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for and you make choices in line with your purpose. And that's a beautiful thing. So that's why I
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encourage women to be classic. That's why I encourage women to embrace their femininity and
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why I encourage people to engage with traditional values and have traditional values because traditional
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values are built around how people work, how people are built. They're built around how people
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are built. But what I mean is traditional values are traditional for a reason in the sense that they've
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lasted so long because they work. Because people were meant to be that way.
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So with that all in mind, let's move into our faith talk for today. So our faith talk for today is going
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to be around the Torah portion, which is called in English He Lived. In Hebrew, it's parashat
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Vayechi. This is the last parasha of Bereshit of Genesis. And I personally love Genesis. I love our
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forefathers. I love Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. I love our foremothers. I love all of the stories
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because the characters and the people in the Bible are just so real. Nobody's perfect. They are all real
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human beings who make real mistakes, who deal with real tragedies and real struggles, just like we do.
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And they're there for us to learn lessons. They're not supposed to be people that we look up to and
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say like, well, they were perfect and I'll never reach that. We're supposed to look up to our ancestors,
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to the people who created our faith, who were there at the beginning and everything,
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to see how we can learn from them and grow. So in this parasha, in this Torah portion,
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Jacob is dying and he calls Joseph to him and he has him bring Manasseh and Ephraim,
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Manasseh and Ephraim in Hebrew. And he gives them a blessing. But if you remember,
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he crosses his hands or at least puts his right hand on the younger sibling and his left hand on
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the older sibling. So he gives the firstborn blessing to the younger sibling, which is a repeat
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of what happened with him, where Isaac gave the younger brother, Jacob, the firstborn blessing.
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And after that happens, he kind of gives the 12 tribes their stories of like what's going to happen
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to them and what they hold, what their futures hold. So following that, Jacob dies. He's brought to
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Israel to be buried and to Canaan at the time. And the brothers come to Joseph and they say,
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please forgive us for what we did. Please don't hold it against us. If you remember, the brothers
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sold Joseph basically into slavery, and then he ended up rising the ranks in Egypt. And Joseph says,
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of course, I'll forgive you. And then Joseph himself dies. And that's the end of the first book of the Torah.
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But what's so interesting about the Torah and Genesis is the sibling rivalries, the marriages,
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the relationships with the children and between them. We see so much family strife, right? We've got
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Esau and Isaac. We've got Jacob and then his story with Rachel and Leah.
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Right? That's the marriages that he has to deal with. And then Bilhah and Zilchah as well. They're
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handmaids. We have, you know, Ishmael and Isaac. We have, or rather it's Esau and Jacob, excuse me,
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from before. But what's so interesting about it is that so much of the story of the Torah shows
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family strife and that it's simply built into the structure of the world, the way that these families,
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even from the very beginning are built, are built to have these, these family struggles.
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Siblings are not getting along. Younger children get firstborn rights. Marriages are not going smoothly
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and uncle relationships don't work out well either. There's quite a bit of struggle that's built into
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and baked into the Torah. And as people who are traditional and who look to marriage as such an
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important part of our lives, we might think when things are stressful between spouses or when things
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are stressful within families, you know, parent to child, that we're doing something wrong or that
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we're failing or that this isn't a godly, a godly way of approaching our families.
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But if you look to the Torah, you'll see that that's not the case.
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If you're struggling with that, it doesn't make you a worse Christian or a worse Jew. It just means you
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are going through the same things our forefathers did. And you also have to navigate it.
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And luckily, you have a blueprint for kind of how to do it or what not to do.
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The people in the Torah are just that. They're just people.
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They aren't any more than we are or any less. Now, of course, in some ways they are more, but
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they're also just humans. And yet we learn from them and look up to them because they did amazing
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things despite also going through trials and tribulations and making mistakes.
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It's important for us to know that God understands your familial struggles because he created the
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world in this way from the very beginning. Families are not supposed to be perfect.
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We can strive for goodness. We can strive for perfection. And I put that in quotes.
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But even from the very beginning, that wasn't the way things were built. People don't always get
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along. People don't always make the choices we would hope they would. And that is part of being
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alive, is navigating these relationships that are so absolutely important.
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But it doesn't make it worse. It doesn't make you a bad person to have those struggles in your life.
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Just makes you part of the way that God created the world.
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So you're not alone. And I don't even mean from the sense of you're not alone because there are other
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people you know who are going through it. I mean it in the sense of you are not alone because God
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built this in, like he baked it into our world. He baked it into the way things work.
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So it's up to us to work through that, but it's also up to us to understand that it's okay when we're
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going through it.
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So that is it for our faith talk. But let's hop into our last segment for today, which is our
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subscriber questions. So let's start with this question. How do you feel about stay-at-home
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husbands if the woman's job allows them to be more than financially stable?
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I would say that when it comes to kind of who goes to work and who stays home,
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you always have to understand that the most important question is how is the family going
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to be provided for? If that means that the mother is the one working and the father is the one at home,
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that's okay. That's how I grew up. My dad was a stay-at-home dad and my mom worked and that was
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how our family needed to be structured. But if that doesn't have to be the case, if there's a situation
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in which the husband could make enough for the family to survive and do well and the mom could stay
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at home, then that, in my opinion, is the ideal situation. I think it's generally better to have
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the mom at home for everybody's sake in the sense that women like to be at home with their kids.
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They enjoy their children. And fathers, I think a lot of men need to feel like they're providing
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for their families. And the children benefit from having a mom who's home. So if you can make that
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work, I generally try to advise people towards that direction. But if that's just simply not going to
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happen and that's not the case, then you have to do what's going to provide for your family.
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So if the woman's job allows the family to be more financially stable,
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then maybe she needs to work and the husband can stay home.
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But I would say in any other case, having the mom at home is a better situation if it can be managed.
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Next question is, as a new mom to two and a working mom, I'm struggling with what I thought
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this journey would look like and what it is. I am loving my babies and I'm struggling with the fact
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that I have to work. I work two days out of the home and one day from home. I am luckier than so
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many people. I currently have a nanny for two days. I still feel so torn. I feel like I'm never fully
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present as a mom because there is always work to do. I'm a professor, work never stops. And at work,
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I feel bad I'm not with my babies. Logically, I know that good children have been raised and raised
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well in all kinds of families. But still, I feel like I'm not being the best mom by not staying home.
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I believe in traditional values. I want to homeschool one day. My husband works overtime
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all the time to make me stay at home one day. And still, I feel guilty. It doesn't make sense.
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How do you manage the expectations you had of motherhood to the realities?
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That's a great question. And I want to say I get it very much so. Because I think that
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for me, I'm constantly trying to balance motherhood, wifehood, content creation,
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community involvement, all of the different things that I do. The work-life balance is real.
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Even if your work is homemaking, it's real. Just trying to get everything done with a toddler
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that's running around is very, very hard. But I think one of the things, first of all,
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you're doing absolutely everything you can to be at home with your kids. So I would not feel guilty
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at all if I were you. Like, you are doing everything right. Your husband working as hard as he is,
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I mean, what a blessing, truly. The fact that you're able to be at home with your kids as much
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as you are, a really, really wonderful thing. And you're not doing anything wrong by trying to make
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it a situation where you get to be home with your kids. And you're not a bad mom for not staying home
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when you can't. I mean, there's so many amazing moms out there that have to work.
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I mean, that's the most important thing is getting food on the table, making sure there's shelter,
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making sure there's those things that you all really need to survive.
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So one of the things that I've found is that is helpful, is that I always feel like I need to be
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really, like, directed with my son. That if I'm not paying full attention to him and, like,
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Montessori-style being with him and working on his development and making sure he's, like,
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learning to be independent with my involvement, that I'm, like, not being as good of a mom as I
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should. And the thing that I always remember is for generations, for thousands of years,
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women had the children at home and the children were not getting directed attention. They were
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just there while the mom was trying to get everything done. And the way that they learned
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was by watching or participating. And so it's not about us as moms always needing to put our entire
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focus on our kids. It's about us as moms having the kids learn by being a part of the daily routine,
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by being part of the daily actions and all of that. If you're putting your kid in front of a TV so you
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can get things done, maybe not the best move. But if you are having your child just kind of be around
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while you do things, I think that's great. Like, that is the most positive thing, is having your baby
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help you while you do things. And yes, it might slow things down, but that's not the big thing.
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The big thing is that the baby's with you and learning. You don't have to feel bad for
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not being the stay-at-home mom you wished you could have been. And as far as managing your expectations
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of motherhood, motherhood is really about
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doing your best to raise this little person and bring them to the best person that they can be.
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And what that looks like is a little different for everybody.
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You know, for me, like I mentioned, it's about having my son watch what I'm doing and participate.
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But for you, that will look different because what you do each day may look different than what I do
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each day. If you are being an involved mom and you are putting your children first and you're
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prioritizing, I think that you're doing everything right. And managing those expectations really comes
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down to, like I mentioned, knowing how motherhood was dealt with for thousands of years before it
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became like this really intensive project where people either outsource the project of motherhood
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to somebody else so that they can go out and work and do their own thing, or where you as mom have to
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be like in it all day, completely focused on your child. Being a mom is about being there for your
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baby, but in the sense that they're learning along with you, alongside you. That's my answer for that
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question. And that is today's episode of the Classically Abbey podcast. I hope you guys enjoyed it.
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