The Classically Abby Podcast - Ep. 4 ｜ Prince Harry's ＂SPARE＂ Is A DISASTER

00:00:00.000 I read Spare, and I have so many thoughts, why the Israelites needed to put blood on 1.00

00:00:05.820 their doorposts in Egypt, and do I believe that IVF is wrong?

00:00:10.160 All this and more on today's episode of the Classically Abbey Podcast.

00:00:30.000 Hello, and welcome to today's episode of the Classically Abbey Podcast.

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00:00:56.200 And in today's episode, our main portion is going to be about Prince Harry's Spare,

00:01:02.740 the book that he just came out with.

00:01:05.200 I'm a little bit late to the game on this, just a little bit, because I wanted to make

00:01:09.240 sure I actually had read the whole thing before giving my review.

00:01:12.720 I kind of gave a mini review when I had listened to just the first bit, a little bit of the

00:01:18.720 first portion, and now I can actually talk about it.

00:01:23.160 And I want to explain why I feel that it's important to talk about in the first place,

00:01:28.580 why this isn't just gossip, but why I think it's relevant to what we talk about here at

00:01:32.940 Classically Abbey.

00:01:33.900 So we'll also be doing our weekly catch up, our faith talk, and stay tuned till the end

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00:02:19.080 But now let's get into our weekly catch up.

00:02:23.040 So I have a few things to share.

00:02:26.040 It's been a busy couple of weeks, starting with the fact that my son caught hand, foot,

00:02:31.600 and mouth. 0.98

00:02:32.260 So I don't know if you have kids.

00:02:34.060 I'm sure you know what hand, foot, and mouth is.

00:02:36.060 If you don't, it's like sores that show up on the hands, the feet, and in the mouth.

00:02:40.700 Uh, my son has now had it twice, which is crazy because he's not even in daycare.

00:02:44.960 He's just at home with me, but it's probably because we go to synagogue.

00:02:49.020 So he's still spending time with other kiddos and he, uh, has had it twice.

00:02:54.940 It is no fun.

00:02:56.840 The first time he had it was at six months and he ran 104 fever, which was really scary.

00:03:02.520 He actually went to the emergency room that time.

00:03:04.420 And this time, I think maybe because he's a little older, he only ran 102.5.

00:03:09.180 And then again, he woke up in the middle of the night.

00:03:10.740 He had spiked his fever again.

00:03:12.400 And, uh, but he did, he's doing pretty well.

00:03:14.940 He's recovering well.

00:03:16.680 But basically what that meant is that my week has been taking care of my son and not doing

00:03:24.280 a lot of work and trying to cram work into the pockets of time in which he's sleeping

00:03:28.880 or whatever else someone else is watching him or something.

00:03:32.340 But it's, it's always crazy.

00:03:33.840 And I'm sure moms can relate that when your kid is not feeling well or is sick, then you

00:03:41.780 are twice as busy because you are trying to figure out how to get things done that you

00:03:47.920 need to get done while also being a lot more engaged with your children because you have

00:03:53.820 to take care of them a lot in a much more intense way.

00:03:56.800 So that's been, that's been hard, but he's doing a lot better.

00:04:00.760 And that's the important thing.

00:04:02.120 We're actually going to get his first haircut today.

00:04:06.420 I know, I can't believe it.

00:04:08.200 He's almost a year old.

00:04:09.760 Uh, and we're going to talk about that in a future episode, but I'm planning his birthday

00:04:13.600 party and I'm really excited about it.

00:04:15.700 Um, but he's getting his first haircut today and it's really interesting because Mr. Baby

00:04:21.140 Never actually lost his hair.

00:04:22.540 He was born with like a full head of hair and he never lost it.

00:04:25.400 He's always had a very nice head of hair.

00:04:28.420 And so now the end is starting to get really long and curling out and it's time for his

00:04:34.220 first haircut.

00:04:35.060 And we're, we're both excited to see what he's going to look like because it really does make

00:04:39.480 a baby look like a little boy.

00:04:41.020 So that's amazing.

00:04:42.500 But also it's just like, he's getting big so fast.

00:04:45.520 How is this happening?

00:04:46.640 I don't, I don't even know.

00:04:48.500 We've been going to the library.

00:04:50.560 So I don't know if you guys have been to your local library, but you should go.

00:04:55.360 Going to the library is the best.

00:04:57.860 Number one, free entertainment.

00:04:59.500 It's awesome.

00:05:00.180 Number two, reading is great.

00:05:02.280 I'm a big proponent of reading.

00:05:03.840 Number three, it's a new environment for Mr. Baby to explore.

00:05:08.340 And it's a place for us to go just even a couple of times a week for him to just crawl

00:05:13.620 around and enjoy a new space.

00:05:16.920 I put him down in the little kid's room while we look for books to bring home.

00:05:21.680 And he has such a good time.

00:05:23.620 I am such a big fan of the library.

00:05:26.200 I didn't go for a long time, but I'm trying to remember when I started going in Omaha when

00:05:31.800 we lived in Omaha for a year, that was, I think the first place I had gotten my library

00:05:35.980 card since childhood.

00:05:39.140 And I loved going to the library when I started going even more in Virginia and now here.

00:05:47.560 So if you have a local library, even if you don't have kids yet, check it out because

00:05:52.180 free books, awesome.

00:05:53.900 Also free magazines and free movies.

00:05:56.580 Why not?

00:05:57.340 But if you have kids, it's even more fun.

00:06:00.760 Like you have a place to spend time with your kids that's free, that they enjoy.

00:06:04.880 And a lot of the time they have like readings and things like that.

00:06:07.480 And now that we just shifted over my son's nap schedule, we should be able to go to some

00:06:15.160 of the readings for little babies that they do because originally it was during his nap,

00:06:19.800 but we are shifting around his nap schedule right now, which is stressful, but exciting.

00:06:25.060 I shouldn't, I'm like getting derailed.

00:06:28.200 I have a whole list of things to talk about in our weekly catch up, but I have so many

00:06:31.900 things I want to, I keep like bringing up that I want to mention.

00:06:37.120 I don't know why.

00:06:37.960 I feel like I haven't talked to you guys in a while, which is ridiculous because I talk

00:06:41.060 to you every week, but still, I feel like I haven't talked to you guys in a while.

00:06:43.560 So hi, I missed you.

00:06:45.620 Um, but it's really funny because Mr. Baby the other night, so while he was dealing with

00:06:51.820 hand, foot and mouth, generally my policy is if he is sick, I don't wake him up from

00:06:57.740 naps.

00:06:58.180 I just let him sleep as much as he needs so he can recover.

00:07:01.660 Well, that was a mistake because on Friday, uh, he took a nap and he fell asleep around four

00:07:10.260 and I let him sleep till six, but his bedtime is usually seven 30 or eight.

00:07:15.260 Well, he did not go to sleep until 10 and then he woke up at 12 45 and was ready to party.

00:07:22.440 So the two of us hung out while he played with his toys between 12 45 and 3 AM.

00:07:28.500 And then he slept from three till eight o'clock.

00:07:33.000 So basically he treated his first part of the night between 10 and 12 45 as like a nap.

00:07:39.760 And then he woke up and was awake.

00:07:42.160 Uh, it was not the best.

00:07:43.800 And that was when I talked to my dad and he is a big fan of talking about baby sleep.

00:07:48.980 And he said, you know, let's just do one nap today, even though he normally does two.

00:07:53.720 And then we'll see how he sleeps.

00:07:55.460 And last night he slept from 7 30 PM till 6 40 AM, just straight through no wake-ups.

00:08:04.160 It was awesome.

00:08:05.720 So now I'm kind of going off my dad's new recommendation for his nap schedule,

00:08:10.480 which is a half hour in the morning, just to get him through to his real nap in the day

00:08:15.340 between 12, uh, between when is his second nap between like 12 30 and two, uh, sorry, 12 30 and three.

00:08:23.980 This is a lot of detail if you're not interested in baby naps, but it's kind of interesting to me.

00:08:30.040 So I'm sharing it.

00:08:31.460 Feel free to skip it.

00:08:32.680 If you are not interested, fair enough, but we've been spending a lot of time with my parents

00:08:38.200 and Jacob's parents, and it's just been so lovely.

00:08:41.640 And one of the things that we've recognized because we spent a weekend with Jacob's parents,

00:08:45.180 and then we actually spent this past weekend with my parents is just how much we actually

00:08:49.440 enjoy having our parents around.

00:08:51.040 I think a lot of people feel that stress or they have anxiety between kind of attention

00:08:56.620 between in-laws and depending on the relationship, I don't think it has to be that way.

00:09:03.400 We're very, very blessed that that is not our situation at all.

00:09:07.220 And we really enjoy being with the other's parents.

00:09:10.820 And it's something that I think more people should try to develop if that is possible.

00:09:18.020 Because I know that some in-law relationships are really fraught with tension, but if it's

00:09:22.800 just kind of like, meh, maybe develop it.

00:09:27.040 Maybe see if there's a way for you to develop that relationship with each other's sets of

00:09:30.740 parents so that you can enjoy the time that you spend with them as much as we enjoy the

00:09:36.200 time we spend with our parents.

00:09:38.340 The next thing I want to mention is something about what Jacob said about our house, which

00:09:46.220 made me so happy.

00:09:48.040 So we live in an 1,800 square foot home, which is not tiny at all, like not at all, but it

00:09:55.240 isn't huge.

00:09:56.340 It's three bedrooms and the middle portion of the house is one big open space.

00:10:01.260 And I love our house.

00:10:03.180 I really, really do.

00:10:04.120 But when Jacob said, our house is like a cottage, it made me go from liking our house and really

00:10:12.560 enjoying it to being like, oh, my gosh, this is bliss.

00:10:16.720 I am obsessed with our house now.

00:10:19.480 I love the idea of living in a cottage.

00:10:23.100 A cottage is cozy.

00:10:24.480 A cottage is warm.

00:10:25.820 A cottage is more petite, but there's something beautiful about how small and cozy and warm it

00:10:33.120 is, right?

00:10:33.540 You can't have a ginormous house that is a cottage because part of something being a

00:10:40.880 cottage is that it is more contained.

00:10:43.620 And so loving, I loved when he said that because A, I'm hoping he said it because of the way

00:10:49.580 I've decorated it and I've made it feel warm and welcoming and cozy.

00:10:53.980 But I also feel like when you, it just really taught me how much a shift in perspective can

00:11:00.220 make you enjoy something more.

00:11:01.920 So just shifting my perspective from, oh, this is a smaller home, not one that I think

00:11:08.520 is small, but could be a smaller home to some people.

00:11:12.840 Instead of thinking that, thinking of it as a cottage that is warm and inviting, that makes

00:11:18.700 it so lovely.

00:11:20.500 And so if you live in a smaller home, a smaller space, try thinking about it like it's a cottage.

00:11:25.700 I think it'll change the way you view it and it'll make you enjoy the space even more.

00:11:32.000 Last but not least.

00:11:34.620 Sort of last but not least.

00:11:36.000 We'll do this is second to last but not least.

00:11:38.140 Can you believe it's already February?

00:11:41.080 How is the year going by so quickly?

00:11:43.620 2023 feels like it's flying.

00:11:45.040 January went by so fast and we're going to be in February so soon.

00:11:50.000 We can talk about Valentine's Day.

00:11:51.920 Leave your thoughts in the comments on YouTube if you have thoughts about Valentine's Day because

00:11:57.980 I'm curious.

00:11:59.220 But if you want to leave comments on just the podcast, then you can become a premium subscriber

00:12:04.600 at Substack and on my Substack.

00:12:06.400 And that's how you will be able to leave a comment on the podcast itself.

00:12:10.100 But I just can't believe that we've already gotten to February because January, I feel

00:12:13.280 like it just we just entered 2023.

00:12:16.100 How did that happen?

00:12:18.060 OK, here's the real last thing for our weekly catch up, which is a fun new board game I wanted

00:12:22.960 to mention.

00:12:23.460 So if you didn't know, my husband, Jacob, is a board game aficionado.

00:12:27.980 He loves board games.

00:12:29.600 He collects them.

00:12:30.520 He we play so many board games.

00:12:33.300 I have so many reviews I'm sure I could share, but I wanted to share a game that we played

00:12:37.880 yesterday for the first time, and it's called Irish Gage.

00:12:42.640 It's kind of like a mixture between Ticket to Ride and what's the second what's the second

00:12:51.220 game?

00:12:51.640 Maybe something with stocks, let's say a choir, which most people don't know.

00:12:54.400 But if you do know the name of the game, a choir, there's a very small element of stocks

00:12:59.580 that a choir is all about stocks.

00:13:02.100 But in any case, this game is a lot of fun.

00:13:06.280 It's really easy.

00:13:07.120 It's really quick.

00:13:08.260 And it's one of the things that we talk about a lot about is the aesthetic of a game.

00:13:15.040 If you buy a game that's really fun, but it's just ugly to look at, it's not as fun to play.

00:13:20.180 And this is a really beautiful game.

00:13:22.640 I love the Irish aesthetic.

00:13:24.640 It's something I really enjoy looking at.

00:13:26.260 So playing this game was very enjoyable for me for that reason.

00:13:30.340 It's easy to learn, and it's a lot of fun.

00:13:32.640 So if you're looking for a new game to check out, I highly recommend Irish Gage.

00:13:37.440 So now let's get into the main portion of today's episode, which is Prince Harry's new

00:13:43.220 memoir, Spare.

00:13:45.200 Now, I listened to the book, and it was a slog to listen to.

00:13:48.900 It was, I think, 14 hours if you couldn't speed it up.

00:13:52.120 And I sped it up to 1.15, 1.25, and that helped.

00:13:59.260 But my husband and I were listening to it in the car, and we had to take turns driving

00:14:04.680 because it kept putting us to sleep.

00:14:08.280 So my husband drove first, and I fell asleep in the back, and then he started to fall asleep.

00:14:12.960 And then we switched because I woke up, I took over to drive, and then he fell asleep in

00:14:18.580 the back.

00:14:19.120 It was very, very funny.

00:14:21.220 And I think that shows you a little bit about how, A, he narrates, but also, B, the content

00:14:27.840 of this book.

00:14:29.500 Of course, it is gossip, and people are excited because it's a look into the royal family that

00:14:35.920 they've never seen before, but the truth is, is that it is not super interesting to listen

00:14:43.320 to, especially the first section.

00:14:45.800 The first section is really, really long and boring, mostly.

00:14:50.980 So here's the thing.

00:14:53.220 The only reason I listened to this was because I wanted to be able to share my thoughts on

00:14:57.380 it with you all.

00:14:57.960 I don't believe that sharing your thoughts on something you haven't listened to, read,

00:15:01.640 watched, whatever, is fair to the thing you're criticizing, discussing, you know, any of

00:15:08.280 that.

00:15:08.580 So I thought that this was important.

00:15:11.200 And the reason I thought it was important was because this is an example of how not to

00:15:16.760 be classic.

00:15:18.000 Everything we talk about here at Classically Abbey is traditional values, classic living,

00:15:22.740 and modern femininity. 1.00

00:15:23.760 And Spare does not, it's a guidebook on how to not be classic.

00:15:31.640 And that's relevant to us, right?

00:15:33.280 We can take lessons not only from positive places, but from negative things.

00:15:37.660 We can watch something and say, that's how I don't want to act.

00:15:40.820 That's what I don't want from my life.

00:15:42.600 And this book is, I think, a very good example of that.

00:15:45.980 So let's talk about turning the world against your family.

00:15:50.560 I mean, Harry turned the world, is trying to change the narrative, right?

00:15:56.740 The narrative right now is you left your family, you betrayed your family, you married this

00:16:00.820 woman who took you away from your duties, and he wants it to change to, well, I'm the

00:16:07.160 victim.

00:16:07.560 I ran away because my family is so terrible.

00:16:10.040 The people who love me, the people who are closest to me, I am going to throw under the

00:16:14.640 bus to change the narrative.

00:16:16.520 Now, this is ironic, given the fact that in the book, he criticizes his own father multiple

00:16:22.980 times, and Camilla, his mother-in-law, rather his stepmother, for trying to put things in

00:16:31.260 the press to make them look better when he is doing literally the exact same thing, but

00:16:37.580 even worse.

00:16:39.260 He shares secrets.

00:16:41.400 He lies about wanting privacy when all he really wants is positive fame.

00:16:48.340 There's a very big difference between wanting privacy, wanting no one to talk about you

00:16:52.640 at all, and wanting people to talk about you, wanting to be famous, but wanting it on your

00:16:58.360 own terms, wanting it to be a positive fame because people love you.

00:17:03.980 They have put themselves in the public eye so many times, so often in the last however many

00:17:10.900 years, that it can't be that they just want privacy, because if they just wanted privacy,

00:17:16.200 they could sequester themselves, go somewhere very private, buy a very large plot of land,

00:17:23.180 and, you know, do their best to avoid being in the papers.

00:17:28.860 Now, I will get to the paparazzi, because I know that the paparazzi is a very important

00:17:34.940 part of this book, and I think should have been the main portion, main thing about this

00:17:39.700 book, and there was a missed opportunity here, but if they didn't want to be in the news and

00:17:45.140 they didn't want to have fame at all, they could in some ways do that by just not being

00:17:50.220 out there, but they have put themselves out there because they want fame.

00:17:53.900 They just want it to be positive.

00:17:56.780 Complaining about your life and being the second oldest when you had money and time and

00:18:02.240 opportunities to travel and do good works, that's just not classic, and that's what Prince

00:18:06.660 Harry did.

00:18:07.300 That's what Prince Harry is doing.

00:18:08.480 The book is all about how, you know, depressing his life is when he's a very privileged individual,

00:18:16.040 and there, I'm not saying that a person who comes from a place of privilege can't have

00:18:21.620 bad things happen to them, but the truth is that outside of, and I'm not saying this isn't

00:18:27.840 important, right, but outside of his mother's death, which is a huge tragedy, the things that

00:18:34.220 happen in his life, it's really hard to pity him for everything else because he'll be like,

00:18:39.500 you know, somebody was a little mean to me, and then I went and jet set with my friends to go do

00:18:44.360 some crazy thing that literally no one else in the world could afford to do, but he gets to do just

00:18:48.620 because he has the time and the money, right?

00:18:51.360 So that's like a really hard thing to parse.

00:18:54.920 The truth is, Harry wasn't classic to begin with.

00:18:58.760 In the same breath, he'll complain about his life and then talk about how he went to party with his

00:19:04.460 friends.

00:19:05.320 He had the opportunity to do good and be paid to do good and live a lavish lifestyle, but because he

00:19:12.200 wasn't next in line to be king, he let everything fall apart. The reason the book is called Spare

00:19:18.840 is because he says that William was the heir and he was the spare, and not just that he was the spare,

00:19:25.460 but that he was born to, like, donate his organs to his brother. Come on. That is such a lie,

00:19:32.920 and something to keep in mind about this book is that this is not a reliable narrator.

00:19:42.200 He is telling everything from his point of view. So how much of it is true, we don't know.

00:19:48.420 And at the same time that he's doing that, he's constantly saying that he has a very bad memory.

00:19:53.560 He can't remember things. He can't. He's very bad at remembering his past. And then sharing

00:20:00.460 really specific details about a lot of different memories. I mean, these aren't blurred. For me,

00:20:06.540 when I look back on my past, and I'm sure it's similar for you, you'll remember kind of like a swath

00:20:11.960 of what a little memory was, like of how you felt and who was there, but you're not going to remember

00:20:17.560 the color of the couch. You're not going to remember how many doilies were on your grandmother's

00:20:25.720 table. Like, and he does. He remembers that stuff. So why would he say that he doesn't have a good

00:20:31.600 memory so that he's not accountable for misremembering something in his favor? He will say things that

00:20:41.240 you have to imagine are he's being, he's saying to make himself look better. But if he didn't

00:20:47.560 remember it right, and he doesn't have a good memory, then he can't really be accountable.

00:20:51.580 He's constantly blaming others for his bad behavior, but calling others malicious for their

00:21:00.360 behavior. They don't get any excuses, but he is full of excuses. The paparazzi wanted to call him

00:21:06.340 naughty. So that was really about like, but he wasn't naughty. And yet everything he describes that

00:21:13.320 he did in his youth and teenage years was very naughty. I mean, the way he lost his virginity was

00:21:18.660 very sad for him and inappropriate. When you read it, he made a lot of really poor choices,

00:21:25.760 but always blamed somebody else for those choices. But if anybody else is mean to him,

00:21:30.360 if anybody else is, is cruel or says something that he doesn't agree with, then that's because

00:21:37.300 they are cruel and they are malicious, but he doesn't have the same understanding of himself.

00:21:43.560 He's upset that the paparazzi is printing negative things about him. And for the times that they lied,

00:21:48.220 which fair enough, I mean, I wouldn't want lies printed about me in the, in the papers, 1.00

00:21:52.740 but the truth is he also did a lot of bad, stupid things. He did cocaine. He was basically a drug 1.00

00:21:59.520 addict. I mean, there's a lot of history there. He naked partied with his friends without his

00:22:06.100 girlfriend there, but then there was pictures taken and he's trying throughout the book. He's trying to

00:22:09.920 like justify, Oh, like it's just a thing that people do. Not everyone does that. People don't just do

00:22:17.220 that. Uh, and that's just the tip of the iceberg for him. And he overshares. And that is something

00:22:23.360 that is definitely not classic. He talks about like, he talks about his genital region a lot in the book

00:22:33.880 in many different iterations. He's, he talks about how he wants, uh, had loose bowels from magnesium at a

00:22:41.820 friend's wedding. He's, he shares too much. Talks about the crushes that he had on like the women

00:22:49.140 at his school when like the, the teachers, the women at his, it was just, it's very odd. It's just too 0.98

00:22:55.700 much. Something we can learn from that. Don't overshare. It's not worth it. The truth is nobody wants to

00:23:01.440 hear it. Everybody thinks it's kind of crazy. One of the things that he does in the book is he calls

00:23:07.500 William and Charles, Willie and paw, which are terms of endearment. And that really upset me

00:23:14.160 because it's like, he's using terms of endearment so that he can defend himself when people accuse

00:23:20.840 him of selling out his family. No, no, no. He's Willie to me. That's paw. I can sell out my father by

00:23:27.940 telling the world that he carries around a teddy bear as a comfort, as a security blanket, a grown

00:23:34.100 man that you are now telling the world. He does something that I'm sure he would be embarrassed

00:23:39.400 about, but I called him paw. So it really must mean that I love him. Oh, he's my brother, Willie. I love

00:23:46.160 him so much. He's, he's somebody I really care about, but also I'm going to tell everyone in the world

00:23:51.460 about how mean and awful he is to me and was to me. At the same time, he characterizes William as

00:23:59.560 always calling him Harold, something incredibly formal sounding because then it justifies him

00:24:05.220 hating his brother. Of course, it's a tragedy that his mother died when he was so young. And that's

00:24:13.460 where the book starts. And he had to go through that in the public eye. I'm not denying that. That is

00:24:18.180 awful. But you can't justify all of your bad choices from that point forward. He's almost 40.

00:24:26.100 It's just, it's not, you can't do that because everybody goes through something, some people

00:24:33.560 more than others. But William is his brother and went through the exact same thing. And look at how

00:24:39.240 he behaves. He's married to Kate. They do wonderful works. They're very, you know, publicly very good

00:24:45.900 people. The truth is I feel bad for him in some ways, because to me, it's clear that he's just not

00:24:55.320 very smart. Megan clearly took advantage of that because she wanted to be famous. But when she became 0.52

00:25:02.440 famous for all the wrong reasons, she got mad and decided to keep herself in the press constantly

00:25:08.460 trying to change the narrative to make her the good one. Now it's not working for her, but that's been

00:25:13.700 her goal since day one. And I don't think she ever wanted to stay in the royal family. I think she

00:25:19.380 wanted to raise her level of notoriety and then use that to her advantage. But it's really awkward

00:25:28.300 because when you get to the third section, and I'll break down the sections in a minute, you can tell

00:25:34.180 that she was standing over his shoulder telling him what to write. Like, honey, honey, did you get to

00:25:39.960 the part where they said that about me in the news? Did you tell them that they were wrong? Did you tell

00:25:44.880 them that I didn't say that, that I'm actually a really nice person? It's very obvious as the reader

00:25:52.240 that she was like, hey, honey, come on, come on, make sure they know. Like, it's not, it's really

00:26:00.740 uncomfortable. Megan is not a classic woman, and I've said this before. She didn't support her husband 1.00

00:26:07.000 in his duties. She chose to marry someone whose life came with caveats and then tore him away from

00:26:13.600 the life that he was born into, tore him away from his family, and tore him away from what he should

00:26:20.100 be doing, what he should have been doing. She did not support him in the way that a spouse should support

00:26:25.380 their partner. She ran away. And I mean, it's very clear to me in the section where she says that

00:26:37.320 she's going to commit suicide. It's, I'm not downplaying the seriousness of that statement,

00:26:44.780 because I think that there are people who suffer with feelings like that, and we need to take it

00:26:50.520 very seriously. But when you read what she told Harry, it's, it's very manipulative, to be honest.

00:26:57.800 It's very manipulative, because she's saying things like, if I were gone, first of all, she was

00:27:04.840 pregnant at the time, which, unforgivable in many ways, homicide to your child. But she's like, I should 1.00

00:27:12.500 die, because if I die, then the paparazzi would stop chasing you. To me, that's very obvious,

00:27:18.900 not, like, that is something that is so far beyond irrational, that I don't think that that is real.

00:27:25.920 Like, that's not something she would have really felt, because she knew that Harry suffered. Harry

00:27:30.180 talks about how much the paparazzi used to follow him anyways. So she knew that wasn't the case.

00:27:35.760 And then on top of that, she's talking about how, you know, her child would never have to suffer with

00:27:43.960 that. Yeah, because your child would be dead. So I take issue with that, with that section,

00:27:52.420 and with the idea that they needed to leave the royal family. I mean, she basically gave 0.98

00:27:57.120 Harry an ultimatum that she knew would work, because she knew that he takes seriously how

00:28:03.320 much the paparazzi can destroy someone's life, aka his mother. So when she says something like that,

00:28:08.940 of course, Harry is going to respond. And he's not very smart. So he's going to respond even more so

00:28:14.880 and be like, this is how things have to be. We have to get out of here.

00:28:20.240 The book, now breaking down the book a little bit, the book is written stream of consciousness. So

00:28:26.600 there's not really like a through line. It's just memory, memory, memory, memory. And each memory is

00:28:31.600 like each chapter is two pages, two or three pages. So there's no narrative, no through line,

00:28:37.780 just little memories I'm supposed to care about. And then here is something that I took issue with,

00:28:44.520 which is that the point of the book, in my opinion, should have been that the paparazzi

00:28:51.300 are dangerous and need to be dealt with. Because that was the one part of the book that I was like,

00:28:59.440 yeah, that sounds horrible, is being chased around constantly, never having any privacy,

00:29:04.040 even within your own home. That sounds awful. Now what the press prints about you, whatever,

00:29:10.120 stop reading the press. And Charles told Harry that a number of times, and he ignored it. But

00:29:16.140 the paparazzi legitimately shooting you in your own home, that's just awful. But instead of making that

00:29:25.280 the point, by focusing on constantly defending himself and defending Meghan, it's distracting

00:29:31.220 from the point, from what the point of the book should have been, which is we need to deal with

00:29:35.760 this problem. But that's not really what the point of the book was. And that's not really what he was

00:29:40.520 trying to do, because he's not trying to get privacy. He's not trying to hide himself from the

00:29:46.680 news. He just wants to be famous on his terms. Meghan made Harry woke. And it's very clear when

00:29:57.480 you listen to the Oprah interview, he said, I was trapped, but I didn't know I was trapped.

00:30:01.840 And anytime anyone says, I didn't know I was this, it's very clear that they're being reintroduced

00:30:11.600 to their memories in a new framework. So a lot of this book you can tell was a retelling

00:30:18.860 that was done through his new woke worldview. Something that he would have glossed over in

00:30:26.480 the past. Some interaction he would have had with his brother that as a child that didn't matter

00:30:31.640 and that he probably would have glossed over. Now it's part of his woke worldview of the royal family

00:30:37.360 is horrible. They're trying to constrain me. And there's no idea. There's no picture of duty.

00:30:45.340 It's all just, I've been trapped and I need to be free. The duties that Harry had were amazing.

00:30:54.720 They were ones to his, his people to do charity work. And in return, he would have gotten a lavish

00:31:04.440 lifestyle and dealing with the paparazzi. Now the paparazzi part awful, but the lifestyle otherwise

00:31:12.720 has been dealt with before for many years, by many people and William and Kate handle it fine.

00:31:20.860 So for him to act as though this is just undoable, unreasonable is directly opposed to the fact that

00:31:28.680 his brother and sister-in-law are doing it. The only part of the book that I thought was

00:31:36.660 interesting. And honestly, I felt that it was sad was that this middle section, the first section of

00:31:42.880 the book is his childhood. The middle section is his time in the military. And the third section is

00:31:48.440 meeting Megan. And you can tell that the section that he's most passionate about was the time that

00:31:54.180 he was in the military. And in that section, he's really not as influenced by other people.

00:31:58.980 It's just him talking about his time. And I, I feel sorry for him that he didn't stay in the

00:32:05.440 military because I think if he had spent his life doing military service, he would have been very

00:32:11.060 happy. He seemed to really enjoy it. And he seemed to really find purpose in it. Now, I also think that

00:32:18.800 doing Royal family duties could have been really great, but his time in the military spoke to him

00:32:24.100 in a way that I found meaningful. So unfortunately, he did quit the military or leave the military

00:32:34.120 rather. And he did meet Megan. And now this is his life. And that's really sad is that he now has to

00:32:42.980 spend his life fighting to be in the limelight in a way that he prefers. And that's exhausting.

00:32:51.660 It's not classic. And I think we can take a lot away from what I'm talking about here, because

00:32:59.380 these are not classic qualities. And these aren't people who are pursuing a life of meaning,

00:33:06.740 purpose and fulfillment in a godly way. These are people who are pursuing the, they're worshiping at

00:33:14.860 the altar of fame without, without recognizing that that is a double edged sword in a sense that

00:33:22.960 they, they, they should recognize it. They live it, but they don't want to recognize it. They're

00:33:27.540 fighting the reality of it. They want it to be on their terms. When fame is not on your terms,

00:33:33.120 there's going to be a lot of people that hate you and a lot of people that love you. And you

00:33:36.800 are going to constantly be living in that instead of living your life for God, living your life for

00:33:44.940 your family and finding meaning and purpose and fulfillment in that way. So that is my review of

00:33:53.840 spare. I hope you guys enjoyed all of my thoughts on it. I had many, I had more, but that was all I

00:34:00.700 could fit in today's episode. So now let's get into today's faith talk. So if you haven't listened

00:34:06.900 to the podcast before, quick explanation of what this section is of my podcast. Every week we do a

00:34:14.220 Torah portion and I talk about what is going on in this week's Parsha. Parsha means Torah portion in

00:34:21.080 Hebrew. And it's, it's, I love doing this section of the podcast because I love talking about the

00:34:27.320 Torah. I think it's so fascinating. I did realize that because I record a week in advance, you all

00:34:33.680 are hearing last week's Torah portion each week. So I'll say this week's Torah portion, but truly

00:34:40.060 you're, you're hearing last week's Torah portion. But in any case, in today's Torah portion, we're

00:34:46.920 talking about bow, which means come as in come to Pharaoh. So in this week's Parsha, God,

00:34:57.320 brings the last three plagues upon the Egyptians, locusts, which eat all the crops, a darkness

00:35:03.880 so thick and palpable, the Egyptians can't even move within it. And the death of all the firstborn 1.00

00:35:10.840 in Egypt at midnight. Before God brings the last plague, he tells Moses that after this, after this

00:35:18.120 plague, Pharaoh will drive them out of the land of Egypt. He'll shoo them out. He'll say, get out of 0.99

00:35:22.820 here. He won't just let them go. He will legitimately tell them to, you must leave. Before

00:35:29.080 they leave, the Jews are told that they should ask the Egyptians for their gold, silver, and

00:35:34.500 anything of value. The Israelites are also told that they should bring a Passover offering to

00:35:39.840 God, a kid goat to be slaughtered. And it's a lamb or a kid goat to be slaughtered. And the 0.95

00:35:46.900 blood should be sprinkled on the doorposts of Israelite homes so that God should pass over 1.00

00:35:51.940 them when he comes to bring the plague of killing the Egyptian firstborns. And the roasted meat of 1.00

00:35:59.980 that, of that offering is to be eaten together with matzah that night and bitter herbs. Are you

00:36:06.660 getting, are you getting where we are? We're getting Passover. This is the story of Passover. And these are

00:36:12.060 the laws. And it's very interesting because in the Torah, we're getting actual laws that we use during

00:36:16.780 the Seder, uh, on Passover. When the death of the firstborn occurs, Pharaoh can't resist any longer.

00:36:24.040 And he tells the Israelites to get out of his land. They leave so quickly that there is no time for 0.99

00:36:29.360 their dough to rise and all they can bring is matzah. There's also a few different commandments,

00:36:35.480 mitzvot that are shared in this Torah portion. Um, but I have a question.

00:36:42.060 So my question this week is why did the Jews need to put blood on their doorposts? Wouldn't God 1.00

00:36:51.580 know who the Israelites were? Why did they need to delineate themselves as, as Israelites separate

00:37:00.840 from the Egyptians? God knows who we are. He knows I live here and, you know, Sarah lives next door. He

00:37:07.580 knows where we all, who we all are, where we all are. So why are we doing something to like clarify

00:37:13.100 it to God? God knows. I always found that funny, right? Is we're going to put blood on the doorpost.

00:37:18.600 So I'll know to Passover. Come on, God knows. Like, why did we have to do that? Why did we have to do that

00:37:24.920 extra step? So there's a good reason. God was asking the Israelites to show who believed and trusted 0.95

00:37:35.360 in him. And not only that, he was doing it so that they could show each other who believed and trusted

00:37:42.500 in him. So why is this true? So number one, the animals that the Jews were supposed, the Israelites 0.99

00:37:50.440 were supposed to kill and put the blood on their door, those were actually gods to the Egyptians. 0.99

00:37:55.440 So that was frightening. We're going to kill your gods and we're going to put, take their blood and 1.00

00:38:03.040 put them on our doorposts so that God, our God, the God, the God who's been bringing all these plagues 1.00

00:38:08.980 upon you will know to pass over us and not put, and not bring this plague of the death of the firstborns 0.90

00:38:15.860 on our children. Like that's a little terrifying is we're going to take your God and sacrifice it to

00:38:24.340 the God. So that's number one. I mean, that's dangerous. The Egyptians are much more powerful 1.00

00:38:30.680 than the Israelites, right? That's why they could enslave them. So that's a scary thing to do. 0.89

00:38:36.340 But number two, this seems weird, right? You're not only killing an animal and you're taking its blood

00:38:44.840 and then putting it on your doorframe. It's a weird thing that God is asking them to do. And

00:38:50.360 you have to trust in God and do it, even though it seemed odd. Like, would you, would you trust in

00:38:55.820 God enough to do that? So God wanted to see that the Israelites, the Israelites who did this were the 0.83

00:39:06.440 ones who got to leave Egypt. They were the ones who trusted in God and believed in God. They were the

00:39:13.180 ones who, even though this was an odd thing to do and scary thing to do, they did it. And it showed

00:39:19.420 their faith. Now, why did God need to know that they're, that they're, that they had faith in him?

00:39:26.540 The truth is he didn't. They needed to know. They needed to know themselves. They needed to prove to

00:39:34.260 themselves that they had that faith in God. And I always think that's an interesting thing because

00:39:40.300 we always say things like God needed us to prove or show our faith in him. But really God doesn't need

00:39:46.800 to know anything. He wants us to do it for our own sake. I want you to do this thing because it is

00:39:53.560 scary. And if you do it, you'll know that you can, you can trust in me. You know that you do trust in

00:39:59.640 me. You are proving it to yourself. And then there's the second part of this, which is showing each other.

00:40:06.260 If you were the only person in Egypt who was putting blood on your doorframe, 1.00

00:40:14.140 that'd be a lot scarier than looking across the street and seeing your neighbor doing it too.

00:40:21.280 And seeing the guy down the block and seeing two people, two houses down.

00:40:26.440 That communal strength that they drew from each other allowed them to do something so hard and so

00:40:37.340 scary and so kind of weird without as much fear. So what can we take from this?

00:40:46.160 We have to be brave and show what we believe in for the world to learn from.

00:40:54.520 Right? We need to be brave in what we know is good and right. Even when it's hard, even when

00:41:00.940 everyone else is fighting against it or telling us that we're bad or wrong. And by taking the steps to

00:41:09.960 do that, by doing it ourselves, we are proving to ourselves that we can do this, that we are brave

00:41:15.760 enough to do it, but it's not enough to do it on your own. We need one another to lean on when we do

00:41:23.380 the scary thing of standing up against what's wrong in the world. When you know that somebody else is on

00:41:31.000 your side and is doing the same thing with you, you are so much stronger in the stance that you take.

00:41:39.300 So that means that A, build up and shore up your own support systems, but B,

00:41:45.760 if you can speak out because somebody may feel more brave about speaking out themselves because you

00:41:54.880 did. And that multiplies, that grows the movement, both for God and for conservative values, traditional

00:42:07.640 values. Being brave publicly about our faith strengthens our faith, our own faith and then

00:42:15.820 others' faith. And that is so important. So I think that's a really great lesson that we can learn this

00:42:23.300 week is sometimes being brave, showing what we believe, even when it's a little scary,

00:42:34.420 is really important for ourselves, strengthening our own faith and for others, strengthening our

00:42:44.460 communities, strengthening our movements. So that is today's faith talk. But now let's get into our

00:42:54.880 premium subscriber questions. So once again, if you'd like to become a premium subscriber and submit

00:43:01.240 questions for podcast episodes just like this, make sure to head over to classicallyabby.substack.com

00:43:07.440 and become a premium subscriber today. So let's hop right into these questions. Let's start with this

00:43:13.440 one. How do you deal with and process negative comments on your posts, videos, et cetera?

00:43:20.260 Unfortunately, by virtue of being in the public eye and on the right, I see comments on your posts that

00:43:25.740 are full of hate and ignorance all the time. Do these ever get to you or bother you? Do they slide off

00:43:30.800 like water off a duck's back? Is there anything specific that you do that helps that you find helps

00:43:36.560 you ignore or move past these types of comments? So I do get this question often because I do get a lot

00:43:44.080 of negative comments on Instagram, on Twitter, on YouTube, really anywhere. And the truth is I'm very

00:43:54.540 blessed in that the comments don't bother me very often. I find that if you know what you're saying is

00:44:03.620 the truth, not your truth, there is no such thing as your truth, is the truth, then it doesn't matter

00:44:10.700 what anyone says because you are, they're just wrong. And I think that that is the big thing is

00:44:18.400 that when someone is just wrong, it can't bother you. It would be like if somebody said to you,

00:44:24.980 your hair is ugly because it's blue when you have brown hair, you'd just be like, well, that's okay, 0.99

00:44:32.740 but my hair isn't blue. So you're wrong on both accounts. That's how I feel about a lot of the 0.90

00:44:38.700 comments is that they're wrong. So how can I be offended by something that's just incorrect? Now,

00:44:44.620 if somebody gets something, I don't know, closer to my, uh, to the correct, to, to really being true

00:44:55.120 about me, I don't know if that's happened, but let's say, or rather, I guess the real point is if

00:45:01.000 somebody says something that is incorrect and that people pick up as truth, that really, that can kind

00:45:09.220 of bother me. I don't like that. Um, so for a while, for example, there were photos going around

00:45:17.140 the internet of another woman who had been mistaken for me and they were inappropriate photos, very

00:45:24.380 inappropriate photos. And people were saying that I had inappropriate photos on the internet

00:45:30.280 that initially, it doesn't anymore, but it initially bothered me because a lot of people thought that was

00:45:37.680 true that I had inappropriate photos on the internet. They were not of me. They were never

00:45:43.380 of me. They were of another woman who I've actually, uh, messaged before who she felt very sad that this

00:45:50.000 had happened to her and then felt bad that it had transferred onto me. Um, so that was annoying.

00:45:56.660 That was upsetting because it's like falsehoods are being propagated against my, against me as a

00:46:04.620 person. But when people are arguing against my, what I talk about or saying mean things about me

00:46:12.180 because of what I believe, then I don't care because it's like, you know what? It's just not

00:46:16.580 true. And that's okay. I'm trying to think if there's anything else that I do that helps me ignore

00:46:21.880 these comments. But I think really it just comes down to informing yourself. If you know more than the

00:46:30.480 people who are commenting, if you know more than the people who disagree with you about the things

00:46:35.840 you're talking about, then you won't feel upset when they argue with you because, or, or not even

00:46:44.320 argue if they say just a mean thing in the comments, because they just don't know. And that's okay.

00:46:49.140 So that is the answer to that question. But here's the question that I kind of teased in the intro.

00:46:54.200 What's your opinion on IVF in vitro fertilization? For those of you who don't know, I know as a pro-life

00:47:00.840 woman, I think it's immoral to implant knowing that many embryos and babies will die. Also as a

00:47:06.840 Catholic woman, I believe that the creation of life shouldn't be outside the marital act of sex, 0.58

00:47:10.720 but I'm just so curious what your personal view is. So this is an interesting conversation because I

00:47:16.420 know that there are some people who are very against IVF in the pro-life movement. I am not one of

00:47:22.260 those people, but I have caveats. So my feeling about IVF is that I think it's an amazing thing

00:47:28.940 that we've developed the technology to help women who are struggling with fertility to conceive their

00:47:35.920 own children. I think that's really cool. Now, I, I think that we are in an age where everything can

00:47:44.780 be taken too far. So first of all, people think that they can do IVF and that, you know, I don't think

00:47:51.620 most people think this way, but we live in an age where people delay and delay and delay as far as

00:47:57.020 their, as far as getting married and having children. And then they just think, oh, well,

00:48:01.000 I'll just do IVF later on. I don't think that's positive. I don't think that we should encourage

00:48:05.800 women to put off the issue of their fertility until they're older and then depend on something 1.00

00:48:10.940 like IVF to conceive. I don't think that, and I know this is in a different realm, but I don't think

00:48:16.180 something like, I, I, I still have to develop my thoughts on this, but I think for the most part,

00:48:21.300 I'm against surrogacy. I don't like surrogacy as an option. I think that it's, again, we're getting

00:48:26.700 into dangerous territory, but a woman who, you know, is married young or, or tried to get married 0.62

00:48:34.640 young and then is struggling with, you know, having her own children. I think IVF is an amazing

00:48:41.320 modern medical miracle. Like it's very, very incredible, very cool. So the caveats I have,

00:48:49.100 as far as IVF are the wasting of the embryos. I think that that is awful, right? Like people will,

00:48:58.340 they will fertilize just as many eggs as possible and then they'll freeze them. And then if they don't 0.97

00:49:03.980 want them, they'll throw them out. I can't get behind that. I think that the way that IVF should work and

00:49:10.760 would be more moral is if you fertilized one egg at a time and then implanted one egg at a time

00:49:21.060 so that you aren't trying to, uh, you know, stick in as many eggs as possible to see how many will

00:49:28.820 stick. And then you're assuming that a certain amount are going to die in, in the process or

00:49:34.540 making so many that you then throw out a bunch of potential lives. I think that that is, you know,

00:49:43.620 really awful. I recognize that what I'm saying would be very expensive, but I also think that

00:49:49.400 who cares? The expense doesn't matter in comparison to the amount of potential lives you aren't throwing

00:49:58.480 away. So my feeling is if we could create a system in which the, the eggs were fertilized

00:50:07.780 one by one and implanted one by one, I could get on board with IVF. And I think it's really

00:50:13.540 amazing that people can do it. Um, that is what I think of as now, as I think is a good idea. As of

00:50:20.980 now, I would be open to learning more about it and understanding more so that I could be even more

00:50:29.420 informed. But after the research that I have done on this topic, that's where I'm comfortable. Like

00:50:35.660 if somebody were to tell me that they wanted to do IVF and that they were going to do it the way that

00:50:41.000 I just described, I would say more power to you. Good luck having, you know, children. I think that

00:50:46.380 that's an amazing thing. So that may not be the most popular answer because I know that a lot of

00:50:50.900 people are against IVF generally, but that is, I am not against IVF generally. I think it can be

00:50:56.280 really, a really special thing. Um, it just has to be done the right way because as of now we are

00:51:03.120 throwing out embryos all the time that, uh, that to me is not okay because life starts from conception.

00:51:13.040 So that's an issue. The next question is what happens when a bunch of influencers,

00:51:20.900 influence each other. I thought that was a funny question. I think that's really cute. So the way

00:51:29.820 what happens when influencers influence each other is that everyone ends up trying the same thing,

00:51:34.540 seeing if that's actually as good as you, as their influencer that influenced them said,

00:51:41.280 and then sharing it with their followers. But the truth is that influencers are always influencing

00:51:46.560 each other because most of the time. And I generally use the term content creator. Cause I don't like the

00:51:52.220 idea of saying I'm an influencer. I don't think that I am. I would say I'm more of a content creator,

00:51:59.560 but I follow a lot of other content creators. So I'm constantly getting ideas from them for things to

00:52:05.120 try. And I'm super grateful about that because I have learned about so many things, especially now that

00:52:10.280 I have a son, I've learned about so many little like toys and different things that he can use that

00:52:16.980 I never would have known about had I not followed other people. So what happens when, you know,

00:52:21.820 you follow influencers is that influencers follow each other. So something gets picked up by one of

00:52:28.760 them. And then another person who follows them picks it up and they have a bunch of followers. And

00:52:32.680 then everybody is trying the same things all at once, all the time. And it's a, it's a really funny

00:52:37.440 thing, but that's kind of how it works. And, uh, I'm really grateful for it because I've gotten to

00:52:43.900 try so many different products that were so helpful, especially as a new mom, but also just

00:52:50.020 outside of that. I mean, like I've learned about different mops and different, um, Bissell products

00:52:57.220 to clean my house and all of these different things that I never would have learned about had it not been

00:53:01.440 for the other people that I follow who are also influencers. So that's what happens.

00:53:07.440 Last question is kind of a funny question. I wrote an article and I mentioned that I got

00:53:13.600 a water play table for my son for his birthday. Uh, it's really for his birthday party. And someone

00:53:20.800 said, can you tell us more about this water table? So yes, I can. There are a lot of water play

00:53:27.260 tables, devices, things like that, that you can buy. And they're great for summertime,

00:53:31.820 but they're also great. If you live in a warm state like Florida, uh, and they are just a lot

00:53:38.220 of fun because they're clean, right? It's just water. So you're not trying to deal with washing

00:53:43.340 out paint or dealing with any other messy thing. It's just water that they're getting to play with

00:53:48.380 in a cool way. And so I got one from buy, buy baby, but you can buy a bunch on Amazon. I'm actually

00:53:54.360 buying a second one. That's a little different. So there are ones that have all of the fun pieces

00:54:00.460 built in that are kind of like waterfalls, uh, and they have toys that kind of catch the water

00:54:07.420 and pour it down. And it's a lot of fun for, for kiddos, but then there's also actual water tables,

00:54:12.960 which are tables that then have kind of bins in them. And you fill those bins with water and toys

00:54:18.980 and bubbles and other things. And kids can play with those in the water. And it's a sensory experience

00:54:25.140 for them and sensory stuff. I've learned seeing my son play with his food is very important for

00:54:30.940 them to kind of get used to different textures and get used to how things feel on their fingers

00:54:36.160 and all of that. I will quickly say, I think I recently read something about water beads that

00:54:45.040 are very dangerous. So when I recommend a water table, a water play table, I'm usually talking

00:54:50.940 about using just toys like plastic toys that go in the water or something else, bubbles or something

00:54:58.160 like that. But I've heard dangerous things about water beads. So please don't do your own research,

00:55:02.860 but please don't use those. Cause I don't, I don't know enough about it, but that is it for today's

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The Classically Abby Podcast - January 31, 2023

Ep. 4 ｜ Prince Harry's ＂SPARE＂ Is A DISASTER

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