The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - BEYONCE IN A FLANNEL SHIRT？ Ft. Zara Larsson ｜ Drew Afualo ｜ THE COMMENT SECTION EP 67

00:00:00.000 I think to some extent you have to be like, you have to love attention just a little bit.

00:00:04.420 In order to do this, you gotta love attention.

00:00:07.300 No, no, no, no. If I didn't do singing, if I was like, my voice was trash, I would find a way. 0.69

00:00:14.180 To like be in front of the camera, to have an audience, and it's so funny. 0.98

00:00:19.580 My voice is trash and I found a way.

00:00:26.080 Hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show. 0.88

00:00:29.540 Sorry, me, your favorite. Everybody knows who I am.

00:00:32.240 And as my guests get more and more famous, nobody gives a shit about me anymore.

00:00:36.060 So, on to the amazing guest for today.

00:00:39.040 The wonderful, the amazing, the iconic, Zara Larson.

00:00:44.240 Thank you for having me.

00:00:45.420 Oh my gosh, thank you so much for being here.

00:00:46.860 I'm nervous.

00:00:47.560 Icon, legend. Don't be nervous.

00:00:49.140 I know, I shouldn't be.

00:00:49.880 You're a world-renowned superstar.

00:00:51.300 This is a friendly conversation.

00:00:54.440 I know, I think sometimes people think it's like...

00:00:56.460 Hot chair.

00:00:57.040 People think there's not 50 people watching you.

00:01:00.740 Right.

00:01:01.220 But when they come, they're like, oh, this is like a thing.

00:01:03.440 I'm like, yeah, a studio audience that's not allowed to laugh.

00:01:06.080 They're the worst audience in the world, honestly.

00:01:08.240 Yeah, no, we're going to have a good time.

00:01:09.660 I think so.

00:01:10.940 I have something to share with you.

00:01:12.760 I need to be vulnerable.

00:01:13.560 I need you to hold space for me, Zara.

00:01:15.200 Anytime.

00:01:15.560 So, you posted a YouTube video where you sang a song called She's Not Me Part 1 and 2 almost 10 years ago.

00:01:23.400 Yeah.

00:01:23.960 Yeah, I listened to that so bad.

00:01:25.700 In fact, I pirated it on YouTube.

00:01:28.140 I put it on my cell phone.

00:01:29.280 Yeah, because I was too broke-y to have a Spotify account.

00:01:32.140 Now I have one.

00:01:33.580 I still pay for it.

00:01:34.960 Right.

00:01:36.300 You know, I'm Spotify exclusive.

00:01:38.420 But I used to listen to that song all the time.

00:01:40.480 No way.

00:01:41.220 Girl, I used to watch-

00:01:42.180 That's an OG.

00:01:42.800 I used to watch your head on YouTube.

00:01:44.980 And I'm just looking, like, right into the camera.

00:01:48.180 I was showing you to my sister.

00:01:48.420 In the second part, I'm not looking at you at all.

00:01:50.400 I'm looking down.

00:01:51.440 Is that an art direction?

00:01:53.500 Period.

00:01:54.460 Me only wanting to know about that YouTube video.

00:01:56.580 I'll get to nothing else today.

00:01:58.460 No, that's so funny, though, because that's one of my favorite songs.

00:02:01.720 Is it really?

00:02:02.520 Part 1 and 2.

00:02:03.320 Girl, me too.

00:02:04.380 And I could, like, at that point, I was, like, 14.

00:02:07.180 Really?

00:02:07.820 That was really young.

00:02:08.660 I was, like, 15, 16.

00:02:09.620 And I did not relate to anything that I was saying.

00:02:11.980 And then a couple years later, I'm like, oh.

00:02:14.240 I know.

00:02:15.360 I found it in 2013.

00:02:16.920 That's when I graduated from high school.

00:02:19.080 Right.

00:02:19.420 In that year.

00:02:20.440 And then I found it.

00:02:21.620 That's when I found it.

00:02:22.200 And then I just kept listening to it all during college.

00:02:24.120 Girl.

00:02:24.560 Oh, and here we are.

00:02:25.540 Look at us.

00:02:26.360 Talk about a full circle.

00:02:27.960 Manifestation.

00:02:28.440 Believe in yourself.

00:02:29.400 I'm a big manifester.

00:02:30.520 Do you like to manifest?

00:02:31.700 I think I do.

00:02:33.340 Yeah.

00:02:34.160 I haven't really put, like, a word to it.

00:02:36.260 But I think that's what I've been doing my whole life.

00:02:38.440 Yeah.

00:02:38.620 You know, I just picture myself where I want to be.

00:02:41.700 Or, like, I love talking about my dreams and my goals.

00:02:45.100 And ever since I was super young.

00:02:47.120 And a lot of people get really, for some reason, like, offended by that.

00:02:50.720 Really?

00:02:51.280 Yeah.

00:02:51.720 Just, like, mm-mm-mm.

00:02:53.420 Yeah.

00:02:53.640 And I think it's a cultural thing.

00:02:54.880 Like, where I'm from in Sweden.

00:02:56.460 We have this thing called Jantelogen, which is both a good and a bad thing.

00:03:00.660 Yeah.

00:03:00.800 You know?

00:03:01.240 People want to make sure that you're not better than anybody else.

00:03:06.180 Oh.

00:03:06.360 Which makes you really, it keeps you humble.

00:03:08.300 Mm-hmm.

00:03:08.700 And, um, in a way, I think it gives you, like, perspective on, like, everyone's equal.

00:03:15.280 Yeah.

00:03:15.500 Like, you know what I mean?

00:03:16.460 We're all the same.

00:03:17.140 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:17.420 And then you come here to LA and everyone's like, I'm the shit. 1.00

00:03:20.600 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:20.940 Like, I'm the best.

00:03:21.500 It's the complete opposite.

00:03:22.180 Yeah, it's the complete opposite.

00:03:23.420 Mm-hmm.

00:03:23.760 But, no, I think, um.

00:03:25.680 That's so interesting.

00:03:26.400 Yeah.

00:03:26.840 I think manifestate, or, like, how would you, how would you, what's the word?

00:03:35.040 Like, verbalize manifestation?

00:03:36.920 Yeah.

00:03:37.020 Like, I typically, I say it.

00:03:38.800 Like, how would you do it?

00:03:39.840 Yeah, I say it as if it's already happened.

00:03:42.460 Oh.

00:03:42.700 So, I talk, I, like, speak it into existence.

00:03:45.200 Oh, you're nice.

00:03:45.760 And it's so funny, because I've been doing that since I got the platform.

00:03:49.620 Mm-hmm.

00:03:50.360 I think I'm a little too powerful sometimes.

00:03:52.180 Sometimes I'm like, I need to slow.

00:03:54.000 My hair and makeup artist was like, slow down.

00:03:56.040 I'm tired.

00:03:57.220 It's like, when I went to the Oscars, that was something that was like, I manifested, but

00:04:01.620 I didn't think it was going to happen that soon.

00:04:03.460 Wow.

00:04:03.900 And then we were leaving for New York, like, the day after I finished the Oscars.

00:04:07.020 And he was like, I need you to slow down.

00:04:08.400 I'm exhausted.

00:04:08.980 Give me a weekend.

00:04:09.700 I was like, you and me both, girl.

00:04:11.400 But we're strapped in, okay?

00:04:13.200 Wow.

00:04:13.400 So, I feel like, I feel like you, you've been in the business for so long, though.

00:04:17.520 So, I was like, I feel like you have to be a big, like, manifester.

00:04:20.660 Or at least think about your dreams and, like, act on them a lot.

00:04:22.360 I feel like you've got my dreams and my goals a lot.

00:04:25.040 And in a little way, I'm scared of, like, will it ever, what if, because it's such a big

00:04:32.040 part of my identity, in a way.

00:04:33.420 Like, being an artist, I've been doing this since I was so young.

00:04:36.460 And, like, I was on the Sweden's Got Talent at 10.

00:04:39.260 And nothing really happened from that.

00:04:40.740 But it was still, like, a way of putting myself out there.

00:04:44.240 Yeah.

00:04:44.500 And then, sometimes, yeah, like, a fetus.

00:04:50.080 And then I wonder, you know, do I, is this actually my goal and dream?

00:04:53.940 Or have I just put myself in a box where it's, like, this is what you're going to do?

00:04:58.380 Just been conditioned to do it for so long.

00:04:58.980 You know what I mean?

00:04:59.860 Yeah.

00:05:00.200 But I actually think, or I know, performing and singing and music, it really brings me so

00:05:06.480 much joy.

00:05:08.140 I feel really, really happy doing it.

00:05:10.580 And I think that's what it all comes down to.

00:05:12.300 And then, of course, there's all these things around it as well that sometimes can be less

00:05:16.640 good or bad.

00:05:18.380 Yeah.

00:05:18.620 But the singing and the music in itself is why I do it.

00:05:22.500 Yeah.

00:05:22.680 And I just love, love, love doing it.

00:05:25.460 It's what's kept you in the business.

00:05:26.440 Yeah.

00:05:26.840 And it's nice to remind yourself, like, whatever's going on, like, social media or Twitter, what

00:05:32.960 people are saying, it comes down to me loving to entertain and perform.

00:05:40.240 I feel that.

00:05:40.980 Yeah.

00:05:41.180 I was talking to one of my guests about being, like, a public person, and I was saying that

00:05:45.520 to them.

00:05:45.920 I think to some extent you have to be, like, you have to love attention just a little bit.

00:05:50.360 In order to do this, you gotta love attention.

00:05:53.240 No, no, no.

00:05:53.640 If I didn't do singing, if I was, like, my voice was trash, I would find a way to, like, 0.83

00:06:00.460 be in front of the camera. 0.87

00:06:01.580 In entertainment.

00:06:02.060 To have an audience.

00:06:03.820 And it's so funny. 0.97

00:06:04.620 My voice is trash, and I found a way. 0.94

00:06:07.660 Hey, I found a way. 0.97

00:06:08.960 You know what I mean?

00:06:09.340 You'll find a way.

00:06:10.260 Yeah.

00:06:10.620 And some people, I don't know if it's a personality thing.

00:06:14.620 Have you always been a person who, you know, is, like, likes to, I don't know, entertain

00:06:20.900 your friends.

00:06:21.520 Yeah.

00:06:21.740 Or likes to be out there and, like, share your opinions.

00:06:23.680 I think some people are just like that.

00:06:25.800 Yeah.

00:06:26.240 And I don't really know where it comes from, you know?

00:06:29.800 Sometimes I ask my therapist, like, did my parents love me?

00:06:34.240 Like, did I get enough attention?

00:06:35.740 You're like, why do I feel this desperate need for attention?

00:06:37.580 Then why do I need this need?

00:06:38.900 But I think I, I just think that my voice, not my singing voice, but, like, my opinions

00:06:48.940 and my personality is, is something that everybody should hear.

00:06:54.420 Yeah.

00:06:55.140 And you know what?

00:06:56.320 I applaud you for it.

00:06:57.980 Yeah, I don't know.

00:06:58.740 That's what I'm saying.

00:06:59.280 It's just, it's, it's, it's also quite fun.

00:07:01.340 Yeah.

00:07:01.620 It's something to connect with people.

00:07:04.260 Yeah.

00:07:04.880 That you do, you know, in general.

00:07:06.480 Yeah, absolutely.

00:07:06.900 So, uh, I, I, I do love the attention.

00:07:10.060 I'd be lying if I said I didn't.

00:07:11.780 Yeah.

00:07:12.060 Listen.

00:07:12.500 And I think starting off, like, so young, too, just singing, it's so easy to get praise and,

00:07:18.320 like, oh my God, you're so good.

00:07:20.160 Like, my mom, obviously, parents are like, you're amazing, you're amazing.

00:07:24.040 Yeah.

00:07:24.460 Um, and then you just, like, keep riding that wave because it feels good when people like

00:07:31.000 what you do.

00:07:31.880 Yeah.

00:07:32.240 But if I wouldn't, if I, if I wasn't singing, I would most likely be maybe, maybe, I don't

00:07:39.480 know, like, presenter or.

00:07:41.800 Yeah.

00:07:42.220 Like, talk show host kind of thing.

00:07:43.740 Talk show host or do, you know, now we have TikTok.

00:07:46.100 Let's just, like, Freaky Friday switch lives. 0.99

00:07:48.320 I can't sing for shit, but you know what? 0.99

00:07:50.340 I'll take the reins and then you could take mine. 1.00

00:07:53.280 I tried singing for stuff.

00:07:55.200 I've, that's the one thing I've talked about because I'm, what sign are you, by the way?

00:07:59.280 Guess.

00:08:00.560 Hmm.

00:08:01.640 Are you an earth sign?

00:08:02.620 Mm-mm.

00:08:03.800 Water?

00:08:04.480 Mm-mm.

00:08:05.460 Fire.

00:08:06.040 Mm-hmm.

00:08:06.600 Me.

00:08:06.940 There's only four.

00:08:07.940 I went through two of them.

00:08:09.780 You're a fire sign?

00:08:10.740 I'm a Sagittarius.

00:08:12.060 A Sagittarius?

00:08:13.000 Yeah.

00:08:13.260 I'm a Sag rising.

00:08:15.940 Love.

00:08:16.180 Yeah, so you're very, you love attention, that's for sure.

00:08:21.000 Sagittarians love attention. 0.98

00:08:23.720 What are you?

00:08:24.760 I'm a Virgo.

00:08:25.720 Oh, cute.

00:08:26.380 So I'm, I need to be working all the time and I'm, like, very, like, about everything.

00:08:32.520 Do you believe in that?

00:08:33.620 Yeah.

00:08:34.220 You do?

00:08:34.660 I do.

00:08:35.200 Mm-hmm.

00:08:35.780 I just think, like, one time's a coincidence, two times it's a pattern.

00:08:39.440 Mm-hmm.

00:08:40.160 And they say the stars aren't real.

00:08:41.700 I think that all the time.

00:08:42.600 Well, the stars are real.

00:08:43.620 That's what I'm saying.

00:08:44.320 If astrology.

00:08:44.860 I mean, the stars are out there.

00:08:46.100 Well, I don't know.

00:08:47.160 I guess it depends.

00:08:48.840 When you talk about astrology, like, sometimes I'll talk about astrology and then, like, if

00:08:52.580 astrology's not real, why are all Virgo men the worst?

00:08:55.420 Oh, is that how you feel?

00:08:57.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:08:57.860 Like, as I said, one time's a coincidence, two times it's a pattern.

00:09:01.200 So, like, what's the explanation there?

00:09:03.060 Oh, I see.

00:09:03.900 I see.

00:09:04.300 Like, and I've run a hate train on Capricorns before.

00:09:08.700 I have real beef with them.

00:09:10.300 Capricorns.

00:09:11.700 January?

00:09:12.460 Yeah.

00:09:12.820 Yeah.

00:09:13.240 Mm-hmm.

00:09:14.020 I...

00:09:14.580 My man's the Capricorn.

00:09:15.840 Is he?

00:09:16.300 And he's...

00:09:17.240 That's why I'm asking.

00:09:18.000 Like, I don't...

00:09:18.720 I'm the most cynical person.

00:09:21.020 I don't really, like...

00:09:22.760 I'm like, we're here and then we die.

00:09:24.480 I feel that.

00:09:25.220 You know what I mean?

00:09:25.560 Real agnostic, I feel that.

00:09:27.080 Yeah.

00:09:27.500 Yeah.

00:09:27.980 I think that's fair.

00:09:28.520 But I love to talk about star signs.

00:09:30.140 Yeah, I think with Capricorns, my beef with them has always been that I feel like Capricorns 1.00

00:09:34.660 are very charismatic.

00:09:37.900 I feel like they get people to love them very...

00:09:39.460 Uh-huh.

00:09:39.480 They're very easy to get along with.

00:09:40.720 They're very charming, very loving.

00:09:41.980 Well, and then they're like...

00:09:42.940 Yeah, they're just very...

00:09:44.340 Is that what it is?

00:09:44.360 They're very, like...

00:09:45.040 Oh, I should watch out.

00:09:45.620 As soon as they decide they no longer like you or want to be involved with you, they act

00:09:51.000 like they never met you.

00:09:51.980 That is true.

00:09:52.760 And I find that to be a super villain.

00:09:55.460 And I don't trust them.

00:09:56.840 I just think people side-eye like Scorpios or Geminis.

00:09:59.380 And I feel like you're letting Capricorns fly under the radar.

00:10:02.600 Right.

00:10:03.240 Unchecked.

00:10:03.640 But I see them for who they really are.

00:10:06.460 And I started to beef with them on Twitter once.

00:10:08.440 It's okay.

00:10:08.940 Yeah?

00:10:09.560 Yeah, I just started lighting it up.

00:10:10.960 I was like, what else could I do?

00:10:12.780 I did that once with peanut butter and jelly, too.

00:10:15.120 I talked about how I don't like them.

00:10:17.160 No?

00:10:17.580 No.

00:10:17.880 At all?

00:10:18.700 I just don't...

00:10:19.280 I hear that, though.

00:10:20.000 Yeah.

00:10:21.380 But you're also...

00:10:22.040 See, you're from...

00:10:22.820 You're European. 0.92

00:10:23.660 So that's a real American thing.

00:10:24.720 It's not in my childhood.

00:10:26.500 That's a real American combo snack.

00:10:28.860 For sure.

00:10:29.920 And I've talked...

00:10:31.000 Like, I just tweeted, one day you guys will be brave enough to have the conversation with 0.96

00:10:34.940 me about how trash peanut butter and jelly is. 0.95

00:10:36.620 Yeah. 0.99

00:10:37.080 That's all I wrote.

00:10:38.240 And people were...

00:10:38.420 My thing went super viral, and they were like, you don't know what you're talking...

00:10:41.060 Some people were like, you gotta have it on a rioche bread.

00:10:43.940 I'm like, girl...

00:10:44.640 It could be on bread Jesus made himself.

00:10:46.920 I'm not eating it. 0.83

00:10:48.300 Throw it in the trash.

00:10:49.140 I don't want it.

00:10:49.740 What if it's like a really, really well...

00:10:53.200 Did you see that girl who's like, I'm gonna make a peanut butter jelly sandwich for my 1.00

00:10:55.980 man.

00:10:56.460 And she like, baked the bread. 0.93

00:10:58.260 She did the peanut butter.

00:10:59.700 She did the jelly.

00:11:00.540 Did you see that?

00:11:01.300 No.

00:11:01.980 Was it on TikTok?

00:11:03.040 Yeah.

00:11:03.260 And it looked good?

00:11:04.140 Yeah.

00:11:05.220 Good luck.

00:11:06.540 Good thing I'm not your man.

00:11:07.960 Okay.

00:11:09.140 I would have disappointed you that day.

00:11:10.520 Right, right, right, right.

00:11:11.140 Is there any foods that you hate?

00:11:12.920 That are universally loved?

00:11:16.380 No.

00:11:17.120 No?

00:11:17.560 Not really?

00:11:18.040 I eat everything.

00:11:19.360 I do have to say, I don't get, like, pizza like that.

00:11:24.280 You don't get, like, pizza like...

00:11:26.020 People like pizza?

00:11:27.460 Like, it's not that good.

00:11:29.140 You know what I'm saying?

00:11:29.700 It's just like...

00:11:30.680 It's like a fancy sandwich.

00:11:32.700 A pizza?

00:11:33.100 Like a very thin sandwich.

00:11:34.700 A pizza?

00:11:35.400 Yeah.

00:11:35.980 That's crazy.

00:11:36.720 It's like a toast.

00:11:37.920 There's no bread on...

00:11:38.720 Oh, a toast.

00:11:39.160 Okay.

00:11:39.800 I feel you.

00:11:40.560 Like, it's not all that.

00:11:42.680 It's not bad.

00:11:43.840 They're not good.

00:11:44.260 It's not good enough to eat all the time?

00:11:45.600 No.

00:11:46.900 Definitely not.

00:11:47.860 I feel that.

00:11:48.900 I don't know what it is.

00:11:50.020 Oh, I feel like that about avocado.

00:11:51.760 Yeah.

00:11:52.120 I love avocado, but I feel like I could live without it.

00:11:55.660 100%.

00:11:56.100 Like, I could never have one again and it'd be okay.

00:11:58.520 Absolutely.

00:11:58.720 But some people are like, you gotta add avocado.

00:12:00.760 No, you don't.

00:12:01.680 No.

00:12:02.080 No.

00:12:02.680 I personally don't need to.

00:12:04.600 No, I agree.

00:12:05.040 I also think if you put it on there and it's too much, that's all you taste.

00:12:08.180 I always add it and then I'm like, why did I do that?

00:12:13.180 Yeah.

00:12:13.720 That's the only thing I have left.

00:12:14.420 It overwhelms the dish.

00:12:15.420 And then I have to force myself to eat it because I'm like, I know it's good for me.

00:12:19.020 Yeah.

00:12:19.940 I hate, I hate, like, I think a lot of the stuff I hate are like more so condiments because

00:12:23.660 like, I guess you could count peanut butter and jelly as a condiment.

00:12:26.500 Like, individually.

00:12:27.460 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:28.140 But I hate like mayonnaise.

00:12:29.140 When you put them together.

00:12:30.020 Yeah.

00:12:30.260 Like, I hate mayonnaise.

00:12:31.640 I think mayonnaise is so gross.

00:12:33.800 Is that a big delicacy in Sweden?

00:12:36.380 Yeah, I would say so.

00:12:37.720 I think it's everywhere.

00:12:38.860 Really?

00:12:39.380 Yeah.

00:12:39.940 I don't know what it is.

00:12:41.340 Yeah, it's really against my culture too because I'm someone and they love mayonnaise and I

00:12:45.240 hate mayonnaise.

00:12:46.320 I don't know what it is.

00:12:47.200 It just grosses me out.

00:12:48.400 Oh, interesting.

00:12:49.400 Yeah, too much.

00:12:50.140 Yeah, no, I love that.

00:12:52.260 Mmm.

00:12:52.800 You're like, I love mayo.

00:12:54.100 Yeah, I do.

00:12:54.640 But you don't like pizza?

00:12:55.820 Zari, you don't make any sense.

00:12:56.200 I like pizza.

00:12:57.100 I just, I would prefer mayo over pizza.

00:12:59.760 Really?

00:13:00.080 If they're like, we're going to take away-

00:13:01.220 Just mayo on a spoon?

00:13:02.720 This or pizza?

00:13:03.580 We're going to take away all the pizzas or all the mayo.

00:13:05.540 I'll be like, take the pizza.

00:13:06.900 Really?

00:13:07.380 Yeah.

00:13:08.620 Now you're talking crazy, Zari. 0.89

00:13:10.420 You're talking crazy to me, girl. 0.88

00:13:12.740 Well, speaking of mayonnaise, what we're going to talk about today, it has nothing to do

00:13:17.880 with mayonnaise, but we are going to talk about being a woman in the music industry.

00:13:20.980 So you've been in the industry for a long time.

00:13:22.380 How long have you been now, like, consistent?

00:13:24.180 I released my first song when I was 15.

00:13:27.120 Dang.

00:13:27.320 So it's 10 years.

00:13:28.760 Dang.

00:13:29.040 Which is crazy.

00:13:29.860 That's crazy.

00:13:30.160 Yeah, I'm like a veteran.

00:13:32.840 What's been the most, like, shocking part about being in the music industry?

00:13:36.420 Now that you've been in for so long.

00:13:38.540 Shocking part.

00:13:40.140 Hmm.

00:13:41.860 That's a tough question.

00:13:42.880 I think I have always been surrounded by really good people.

00:13:53.780 I've always had, I know your mom's here today, and I've always had my mom with me for a really

00:13:58.900 long time.

00:13:59.600 Yeah.

00:14:00.140 Now she lives in Rome and just lives her best life.

00:14:04.240 I'm super happy for her.

00:14:05.560 Yeah.

00:14:05.780 But she was always with me, but she was always with me, or I have, you know, my manager or

00:14:10.860 people around me that I trust.

00:14:12.300 So you hear these really scary stories about people. 0.94

00:14:17.020 And I've, I have experienced, like, definitely some, some shit, but I don't know if there's 0.95

00:14:22.880 anything really shocking in it. 0.97

00:14:24.880 That's good.

00:14:25.480 I think I, like, all the things that I've done, I kind of expected what it would be like, if

00:14:33.800 you know what I mean.

00:14:34.400 Like, it happened kind of the way you thought it would?

00:14:36.540 Yeah.

00:14:36.560 Yeah.

00:14:36.820 I feel that.

00:14:37.160 I would say so.

00:14:37.900 But you've had a really good, solid team around you for a long time?

00:14:40.380 Yeah.

00:14:40.800 That's good.

00:14:41.360 Yeah.

00:14:41.680 I think that's key, too.

00:14:43.080 Super important.

00:14:43.680 And I'm, like, super new.

00:14:44.900 Super important.

00:14:45.440 I'm super new to the game, like, of, like, the world of entertainment and stuff.

00:14:49.640 But I found out pretty quickly how important it is to have a really good team.

00:14:53.440 No, for sure.

00:14:54.360 And to have, like, your family support, too.

00:14:56.780 Yeah.

00:14:57.180 I feel like that's important.

00:14:57.860 Yeah.

00:14:58.040 My mom and sister come with me everywhere.

00:14:59.000 Yeah.

00:14:59.740 Yeah.

00:15:00.100 Everywhere I go, I'm like, can I get a plus eight?

00:15:03.020 Plus eight.

00:15:03.580 All right.

00:15:04.320 Six final offer.

00:15:05.480 Right.

00:15:05.880 And they're always like, okay, fine.

00:15:08.380 Yeah.

00:15:09.120 Now it's, like, a running joke.

00:15:10.500 Like, everywhere I go, they're like, well, Drew needs, like, at least nine plus ones.

00:15:13.620 I'm like, well, listen.

00:15:14.440 I love that for you, though.

00:15:15.240 It is what it is.

00:15:15.960 It is what it is.

00:15:16.340 If I set the precedent, maybe it'll just start opening up.

00:15:19.420 But then you see some, like, rappers rolling with, like, 30 of their friends.

00:15:22.200 That's what I'm saying.

00:15:23.180 If they're doing it, you can do it.

00:15:25.300 I'd say we're just as talented as each other.

00:15:29.680 Yeah.

00:15:30.040 Well, that's why I'm curious to know, because, like,

00:15:32.200 if I could pick one talent, I would pick singing. 0.99

00:15:35.900 I can't say this shit. 1.00

00:15:37.380 I don't believe that. 0.99

00:15:38.440 That's the one thing that, because as a Virgo, I'm a know-it-all,

00:15:41.440 so I truly believe I could do anything.

00:15:43.220 Like, I could watch someone trapeze, and I'd be like, I could do that.

00:15:46.620 If I tried hard enough, if I really put my mind to it, I could do that.

00:15:50.400 Yeah.

00:15:50.740 Because I'm delusional, too.

00:15:51.880 That also could be my mental illness, but...

00:15:53.720 It's great.

00:15:54.760 It will get you places.

00:15:55.980 I think so.

00:15:56.680 Yeah.

00:15:57.160 Like, just deluding myself into believing it.

00:15:59.080 Sometimes it happens.

00:16:00.160 Yeah, I'm waiting for your next single in a couple months.

00:16:03.340 When we went to...

00:16:04.300 I saw you at Billboard Women in Music. 0.99

00:16:06.000 I saw you at Billboard Women in Music. 0.99

00:16:07.220 I was just trying to say that.

00:16:08.120 Yeah, when we went to that show, I was watching with my friend...

00:16:13.460 Have you seen Teffy?

00:16:14.360 Hello, Teffy, on TikTok.

00:16:15.960 If you look her up, she's wonderful.

00:16:17.460 But she and I were sitting next to each other, and we were watching, I think,

00:16:21.180 Kim Petras before, and she was like, I say all the time, 0.98

00:16:24.820 you bitches are lucky I can't sing. 1.00

00:16:26.920 And she's like, the way I would have dropped three singles, why not? 0.99

00:16:29.360 I was like, literally me.

00:16:31.080 But I feel like, no tea, no shade, but I feel like there's people

00:16:35.220 who can't really sing in the industry.

00:16:37.260 That's true.

00:16:37.840 You can do fine.

00:16:39.000 That's true.

00:16:39.560 So I feel like, go ahead.

00:16:40.960 But that's kind of where I'm like...

00:16:42.440 Why can't you sing?

00:16:43.860 I think I'm...

00:16:44.260 Like, what is it about your voice?

00:16:45.760 I don't think I'm tone deaf.

00:16:47.460 I just don't think...

00:16:48.440 I wouldn't call myself a singer.

00:16:49.900 Like, it doesn't sound like you're killing cats when I sing, but...

00:16:52.900 Okay, but talking about Virgos, right?

00:16:54.560 Yeah.

00:16:54.780 If we're going to talk about star signs, isn't it true that you guys are perfectionists?

00:16:59.100 Yeah.

00:16:59.720 And you want it to be, like, the most amazing, amazing, amazing?

00:17:02.940 Yeah.

00:17:03.220 Unless it's not, you're not doing it.

00:17:06.000 So I feel like maybe you're being very hard on yourself.

00:17:08.260 That is also true.

00:17:09.720 You know?

00:17:10.660 Yeah.

00:17:11.380 Maybe.

00:17:11.960 Maybe.

00:17:12.460 You're right.

00:17:12.480 I'm so talented.

00:17:14.120 Oh my God, guys.

00:17:15.000 I'm so talented.

00:17:16.040 Oh my God.

00:17:16.380 The list is endless of things I can do.

00:17:18.460 I just...

00:17:18.920 That's what I said.

00:17:19.240 I don't think I'm terrible.

00:17:20.700 Yeah.

00:17:20.800 I just, like, don't think I sound good enough to be a singer.

00:17:23.360 I don't want to be an autotune girl.

00:17:25.080 I know everybody kind of sometimes tweaky-tweaky here and there, but, like, I don't want to

00:17:29.180 be all autotune girl.

00:17:30.480 Because then...

00:17:30.960 Who are you listening to?

00:17:32.040 In my wildest dreams.

00:17:33.020 Oh, I don't know.

00:17:33.840 Wait.

00:17:34.080 Let me think.

00:17:35.380 Well, lately I've been listening...

00:17:36.500 I've been listening to SZA a lot lately.

00:17:38.040 Yeah.

00:17:38.540 Beyonce.

00:17:39.220 Yeah.

00:17:40.320 Yeah.

00:17:40.620 Mrs. Zara Larson.

00:17:41.440 I listen to...

00:17:43.860 I listen to Kim Petrus a lot, too.

00:17:45.500 Yeah.

00:17:46.180 I listen to all kinds of, like, pop stars.

00:17:48.780 I love a pop star.

00:17:50.040 Love a variety.

00:17:50.920 I know.

00:17:51.480 Yeah.

00:17:51.840 So...

00:17:52.280 And I just think if I could, man...

00:17:55.980 I think God knew I'd be too powerful.

00:17:58.080 Maybe.

00:17:58.300 The universe was like, hmm...

00:17:59.900 Calm down.

00:18:00.120 That's enough for her.

00:18:01.320 She's too confident already.

00:18:02.500 Don't give her that.

00:18:03.120 Right.

00:18:05.000 So, we're going to be talking about being a woman in the music industry, especially.

00:18:09.000 What would you say, do you think, is, like, the hardest thing about being a woman in the

00:18:12.700 music industry that you've...

00:18:14.920 Maybe...

00:18:16.000 I would say, in general, that maybe people don't take you as serious.

00:18:22.360 Yeah.

00:18:22.740 You know what I mean?

00:18:23.420 Yeah.

00:18:24.160 And, you know, I always say this, but I got in so early into the industry, which was amazing,

00:18:31.240 but also gave me a little bit...

00:18:34.880 Because I've always been very confident in, like, myself and what I do, but...

00:18:38.500 Yeah.

00:18:38.820 You know, starting off so young and getting assigned, like, here's a choreographer, like,

00:18:43.380 here's a stylist, here's a producer, here's a writer.

00:18:46.540 Yeah.

00:18:48.720 You feel like it's kind of hard to develop your own sense of...

00:18:54.860 And also by being, like, a teenager in general.

00:18:57.060 Yeah.

00:18:57.340 You haven't really, like, found yourself in that by just, like, existing.

00:19:02.400 So, going into rooms and expressing your taste in music, or, like, I want to do this, I want

00:19:12.620 to do that, when, like, there's six guys in the room.

00:19:15.960 Yeah.

00:19:16.420 And they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, like, let's talk about this, let's talk about this.

00:19:19.680 And you're like...

00:19:21.280 Yeah.

00:19:22.180 Okay.

00:19:22.780 They're kind of, like, telling you what...

00:19:24.460 Yeah.

00:19:24.640 And I don't think they do that...

00:19:26.120 On purpose.

00:19:26.620 On purpose.

00:19:27.120 Yeah.

00:19:27.460 Like, it's just what happens.

00:19:29.240 Yeah.

00:19:29.380 Like, being really young, and I felt like, well, you guys are the professionals.

00:19:34.760 Yeah.

00:19:35.080 Like, I don't really know.

00:19:36.820 You know what I mean?

00:19:37.600 Yeah, because you're so young.

00:19:38.620 I'm so young, and it took me a really long time to get to a point.

00:19:41.360 I feel like I'm there now to really, even, like, writing a song, to walk in and say,

00:19:46.060 like, this is how I want it to be done, and I would love for this to happen.

00:19:50.940 And sometimes I still feel that little sense of insecurity when it comes to that.

00:19:57.440 Yeah.

00:19:57.720 And then there's, you know, so many writers and producers and people who are really making

00:20:05.040 their stuff.

00:20:06.140 Yeah.

00:20:06.620 And people still are like, like, you know, my favorite artist is Beyonce, and people

00:20:10.080 are like, well, she don't really do much.

00:20:11.920 And I'm like, what did she say?

00:20:14.860 Like, you know what I mean?

00:20:17.060 At this point, she don't have to do anything, and I would still, I'd give her my left nut 0.98

00:20:21.420 if that's what it took.

00:20:22.120 No, but people feel like, I think girls aren't capable of making their own things. 1.00

00:20:29.960 Yeah, like music.

00:20:31.160 They're not as involved in the process of everything.

00:20:33.620 Yeah.

00:20:33.940 Yeah, and it's like from artist to artist, but definitely, I think that's also an issue

00:20:41.620 in, like, society.

00:20:43.820 Yeah.

00:20:44.200 Overall, that you don't really take women seriously like that. 0.71

00:20:48.680 But I would say I really try to surround myself with women in the studio. 1.00

00:20:55.580 Like, now I'm no longer interested in being in a room with all men.

00:21:00.000 All men. 0.93

00:21:00.540 Yeah.

00:21:01.120 Like, done that, been there.

00:21:03.160 Yeah.

00:21:03.920 What is it going to do for me?

00:21:05.120 And what is it going to do for the next girl?

00:21:06.600 Like, I would much rather have an up-and-coming or a newer top-liner writer with me than having

00:21:15.560 these, like, men who've been around for a long time, and they, like, have all these

00:21:20.480 hits.

00:21:20.780 And I'm like, cool, so you've done that.

00:21:22.380 Yeah.

00:21:23.420 That doesn't really mean much to me.

00:21:25.220 You know?

00:21:25.620 So, and it just feels more comfortable.

00:21:29.220 Yeah.

00:21:29.420 Like, I feel like I can really say what I want to say in those situations.

00:21:34.380 Yeah.

00:21:35.120 And it's just different.

00:21:35.980 Like, sometimes you don't have to explain yourself.

00:21:37.560 Like, one time I walked into a session my friend invited me to, and he was like, let

00:21:42.800 me play this song.

00:21:43.540 Let me play this song.

00:21:44.460 Like, we wrote this song.

00:21:46.560 It was a bunch of guys in the room.

00:21:47.440 And I was like, cool, cool, cool.

00:21:48.220 He's like, yeah, I'm trying to give it to, like, a girl.

00:21:50.560 I can't remember what artist now.

00:21:53.460 And it was about, from a girl's perspective, obviously.

00:21:58.000 And then me and my friend, who I was there, we just looked at each other, and he was like,

00:22:01.940 I don't know if, like, a girl would say that, really.

00:22:04.260 And they were like, no, no, no, no, but, like, hear me out, hear me out.

00:22:06.480 And I'm like.

00:22:06.660 Men wrote the song?

00:22:07.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:08.160 From a girl's perspective?

00:22:09.100 Uh-huh.

00:22:09.520 That's crazy.

00:22:10.720 But it's not that, like, it's crazy, but it's not that crazy, because it happens all

00:22:13.640 the time.

00:22:14.200 Yeah.

00:22:14.500 But even us saying, like, okay, so here are our notes.

00:22:18.640 Yeah.

00:22:18.820 We probably wouldn't say this.

00:22:20.420 Mm-hmm.

00:22:20.760 And maybe we would say that.

00:22:22.460 And they were like, meh.

00:22:23.640 Yeah.

00:22:24.140 Yeah.

00:22:24.500 And they were like, oh, interesting.

00:22:25.880 You think because you're a girl, you would know better?

00:22:28.020 Sure.

00:22:29.140 That's strange.

00:22:29.860 Yeah.

00:22:30.120 Well, and also, I think, too, yeah, the thing about Beyonce, like, people saying, like,

00:22:33.600 oh, she doesn't even write her own stuff. 1.00

00:22:35.240 Well, she does.

00:22:35.880 I'm sure she has a big hand in it, but, like, lots of artists have writers.

00:22:39.960 Lots of people write.

00:22:40.640 Oh, for sure.

00:22:41.400 Some artists, like, even, like, I had Meghan Trainor on the show. 0.95

00:22:44.480 Like, she wrote music for the longest time before she became an artist herself.

00:22:48.500 It's very common.

00:22:49.420 Totally.

00:22:50.000 So, I was like, there are a lot more women at work than you would think. 1.00

00:22:54.720 Right.

00:22:54.860 I think that all the time.

00:22:55.740 I think men just, like, consistently, like, terrible men don't want to give women credit

00:22:59.620 for anything.

00:23:00.660 Yeah.

00:23:00.880 Yeah.

00:23:01.440 I think that's what it comes down to.

00:23:02.660 Yeah.

00:23:03.200 Because, like, some of your favorite hits are probably written by women. 1.00

00:23:05.560 Yeah.

00:23:06.060 But sung by a man or a group or whatever.

00:23:08.540 Mm-hmm.

00:23:08.820 And they just, like, refuse to acknowledge the fact that sometimes women are more capable 1.00

00:23:12.860 than they are.

00:23:13.420 Yeah.

00:23:14.000 Nice.

00:23:14.280 I would say so.

00:23:15.040 Yeah.

00:23:15.780 Even in the same room where you're like, well, I don't know.

00:23:17.940 I think, like, I have a couple notes that are like, nah.

00:23:21.680 He's like, I really just, this isn't an advice thing.

00:23:24.140 Right.

00:23:24.260 I just invited you as a listening party.

00:23:26.060 Yeah.

00:23:26.420 Oh, my gosh.

00:23:27.020 Yeah.

00:23:27.200 I kind of just invited you just because, so.

00:23:28.760 Yeah.

00:23:29.220 I want some girls in the room. 1.00

00:23:30.180 Yeah.

00:23:30.860 Do you mind taking off your shirt?

00:23:32.940 He's like, no.

00:23:33.880 Too much of this, not enough being naked.

00:23:35.900 Too much of this.

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00:24:38.020 Okay, for those of you who don't know, what we like to do here on the comment section

00:24:40.960 is we take videos that I was tagged in that are applicable to our topic today, and we talk

00:24:45.440 about them, kiki, make fun of them, whatever it requires, right?

00:24:49.380 So this first one is a video where a woman is breaking down statistics and differences

00:24:54.600 between male and female artists in the music industry.

00:24:58.060 And she says, in a 10-year study from 2012 to 2021, there were 180 artists on Billboard's

00:25:04.800 Top 100, but of those artists, only 21% were women and 78% were men.

00:25:10.400 The statistics for female music producers are even worse. 0.99

00:25:13.140 In that same 10-year period, only 2.8% of the top songs were produced by women.

00:25:18.680 Which, I feel like...

00:25:20.000 So sad.

00:25:20.380 I know.

00:25:21.140 But that's also a reason, like I said, why I want to have the girlies in the room. 0.99

00:25:24.840 Because it's like, if we make a hit, I want a girl on that. 1.00

00:25:28.660 Yeah, we all win at that point, I feel like.

00:25:31.380 100%. 0.95

00:25:31.780 But I also, like, you know, men are just so f***ing terrible about stuff like that.

00:25:36.040 They're always like, yeah, exactly. 0.73

00:25:38.000 Like this first comment says, but is it men's fault that there aren't more female songwriters

00:25:42.840 or producers?

00:25:44.020 Go write songs then.

00:25:46.360 And he used the wrong then, by the way.

00:25:49.240 That's the verb on me.

00:25:50.040 I have to correct you.

00:25:50.820 I'm sorry.

00:25:52.000 But I always felt...

00:25:53.200 Yeah, it's like, what end do you start from?

00:25:56.040 Because, you know, they might think, oh, because men are better.

00:25:58.980 Yeah.

00:25:59.300 But that's just not the truth.

00:26:01.420 Like, we know that's not the truth.

00:26:02.860 Absolutely.

00:26:03.060 Women are obviously way more talented. 1.00

00:26:05.660 Yeah.

00:26:07.800 I'm with you.

00:26:08.500 No, but like, it's really interesting because I think I've worked with a producer who was

00:26:14.820 a woman once.

00:26:16.420 Yeah.

00:26:16.720 Which is so sad.

00:26:17.940 Yeah.

00:26:18.080 You know what f***ed me up in my head?

00:26:20.480 What?

00:26:20.800 That I was like...

00:26:21.300 When I walked in and we were gonna like, you know, she was setting up the mic and like

00:26:26.160 doing her thing and I was like, I was thinking like, like, do you know what you're doing?

00:26:31.440 Yeah.

00:26:31.720 Which was so sad.

00:26:32.940 Yeah.

00:26:33.140 Because it made me, like, just a quick thought.

00:26:35.400 Yeah.

00:26:35.680 And obviously, you know, I know she knows what she's doing, but just never having seen that

00:26:42.100 in my life.

00:26:43.280 Yeah.

00:26:43.620 And then being there with her and she's young and she's so talented.

00:26:48.020 Yeah.

00:26:48.200 But it just made me think, oh, wow.

00:26:49.960 I really, I haven't seen it to the point where I, my, my, my initial thought was like,

00:26:56.000 well, maybe you need a little help.

00:26:59.400 Yeah.

00:26:59.580 Like, how do, how do I know that you know what you're doing?

00:27:01.600 You know?

00:27:02.000 Because you've never worked with women nearly as often.

00:27:04.660 And she, no, like never, never as a producer and, uh, you know, see, just seeing them.

00:27:10.660 And that's why I, I, I believe personally in, um, what do you call it when, uh, you know, 0.97

00:27:19.980 you, you fool, let's say like, oh, we're going to have a program and 50% have to be women. 1.00

00:27:24.880 Oh yeah. 1.00

00:27:25.600 You know what I mean?

00:27:26.160 It's like a required.

00:27:27.220 Yeah.

00:27:27.680 Like I believe in that because even if, um, let's say there are a hundred thousand men

00:27:35.860 who would apply for, uh, like a producing camp, let's say, and, uh, 10 women apply. 1.00

00:27:41.700 Yeah.

00:27:41.960 Maybe statistically they are, they're like good, good producers of the, those 10,000 or a hundred,

00:27:47.560 a hundred thousand men.

00:27:48.480 And there's 20 places for the women, but just by adding, um, um, that requirement, you

00:27:54.700 know what I'm saying?

00:27:55.240 Yeah.

00:27:55.520 It shows to other women that, oh, there's space for us. 1.00

00:27:59.340 Like we can do that and that will grow and evolve.

00:28:02.200 And then it's just beneficial for everybody.

00:28:04.880 So yeah, it's more of a, I feel like, I feel like they always like terrible men always like

00:28:09.700 to lean into statistics like that and think like, oh, it's proven that.

00:28:12.800 No, but yeah.

00:28:13.400 But a lot of times it's just opportunity is not given.

00:28:16.660 Like it's not afforded.

00:28:18.280 And a lot of times I feel like, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like artists

00:28:22.300 aren't really in the beginning of their careers, especially aren't really in a position to

00:28:26.480 choose.

00:28:26.920 Like they're not like, I want women in the room too. 1.00

00:28:30.060 Like they're kind of just like, oh, like what you said, I just kind of gave, I took what

00:28:33.560 they gave me because I didn't know any better.

00:28:35.280 Yeah.

00:28:35.720 Which is, I feel like how most young female artists start out anyways, but then they always 1.00

00:28:39.380 end up with women on their team.

00:28:40.880 Cause they're like, you need women in the room. 1.00

00:28:42.380 Yeah.

00:28:42.840 I always think that.

00:28:43.820 Yeah.

00:28:44.160 You girls.

00:28:44.940 No, it's true.

00:28:46.580 It's more of a comfortable energy too.

00:28:48.940 Yeah.

00:28:49.480 Like I've had a couple of guests on this show that were like, I like how there's so many

00:28:52.120 women in this room. 0.97

00:28:52.940 It makes me feel better.

00:28:54.300 I was like, it's great.

00:28:55.040 It's great, but I also feel like that's why men have the responsibility also for them

00:29:00.380 too, to not just like open the doors for their bros, but like to actually bring in women. 0.95

00:29:05.820 Yeah.

00:29:06.360 And because it looks like this in the statistics and it kind of looks like this for a lot of

00:29:13.360 statistics, no matter if it's music or whatever it is, whatever industry.

00:29:17.280 Yeah.

00:29:17.400 It's like making money industry.

00:29:19.380 Yeah.

00:29:20.040 You guys have the responsibility.

00:29:21.580 Yeah.

00:29:21.940 Like, why do we have to be the ones who are like, please, like, you know what I mean?

00:29:28.540 It doesn't make sense.

00:29:29.620 I think it's the people who have the power, you guys, you better make some space.

00:29:35.040 Yeah.

00:29:35.820 Well, I also think too, you think there's not one other woman on this planet that's just 0.99

00:29:39.160 as capable or talented.

00:29:40.800 There are even some women like, I saw, I saw a tweet about it once. 1.00

00:29:44.320 I think, I think you had tweeted about it too, or liked it or something.

00:29:47.840 Cause I think we follow each other on Twitter, but it was someone saying that there are a

00:29:51.220 lot of female artists now who, who produce and comp their own music. 1.00

00:29:54.380 A lot of times, like Ariana Grande is one of them.

00:29:57.200 Doja Cat does it too.

00:29:58.540 Like they, they produce a lot of their own music because they're like, I mean, I'm going

00:30:03.080 to do it then.

00:30:03.660 I'm going to do it.

00:30:04.160 Which I think is cool.

00:30:05.060 I don't know if you produce your own music too.

00:30:06.460 No, no, no, not yet, not yet, but you're on your way there.

00:30:10.900 Yeah.

00:30:11.320 I've opened logic.

00:30:12.660 I, Oh really?

00:30:14.180 I like, I've opened it on my computer.

00:30:15.860 Oh yeah.

00:30:16.420 And then I said, you're hurt.

00:30:20.240 Girl, I don't know.

00:30:20.980 But I would love to get to that point.

00:30:22.480 Absolutely.

00:30:22.980 That, yeah, that's a dream.

00:30:24.380 And it's like you say, you know, there's obviously capable women and many of them might 1.00

00:30:29.140 be the classic, you know, you have to work twice as hard to get to half.

00:30:36.460 To even like, even, even be weighed in the same conversation.

00:30:39.700 Yeah.

00:30:39.820 I feel that.

00:30:40.900 This next comment says, I think it's because the female voice isn't as good and easy to 1.00

00:30:46.940 listen to. 0.99

00:30:47.600 What the f***? 0.99

00:30:48.460 Preference we all feel but rarely speak about. 0.99

00:30:51.300 Shrill.

00:30:52.860 I think that's a you thing.

00:30:53.960 I think that's a you thing, buddy. 0.98

00:30:56.160 Who the f*** listens to a woman sing and they're like, ugh, turn it off. 1.00

00:31:00.520 But it's also so interesting. 0.99

00:31:01.940 Talking about pop music and just women in general that I feel like it's not being seen

00:31:11.200 as like a cool thing.

00:31:13.400 Yeah.

00:31:14.000 Or something that guys would want to listen to.

00:31:17.760 That's so strange.

00:31:18.120 Because it's like a girl.

00:31:19.520 Yeah.

00:31:20.680 Can you imagine?

00:31:21.060 It is very, it is very strange and I truly believe that.

00:31:24.520 And I believe that's why a lot of guys would lean towards hip hop or rock where it's heavily

00:31:32.440 male dominated because it makes, you know, it's like a part of like the little macho 0.63

00:31:36.880 macho thing where they feel like, oh, I'm a real man.

00:31:40.160 Like I listen to hip hop.

00:31:40.920 I don't listen to that.

00:31:41.860 I don't listen to that pop stuff.

00:31:44.420 That's for girls. 1.00

00:31:46.040 I really think that.

00:31:47.520 And that's so wild to me that it's even, even like the music genres are very kind of

00:31:53.860 gendered.

00:31:54.420 And I think that people don't want to listen to pop because a lot of pop is female dominated. 0.98

00:32:00.320 It's female dominated. 1.00

00:32:01.580 And they're like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:32:03.180 And you know what's funny is, is I've talked about this before on the show, but like brands,

00:32:08.420 consumers, it's been statistically proven that women determine what's popular. 0.99

00:32:12.380 So like if you have a large female fan base, you will be popular. 0.98

00:32:17.300 I promise you that brands, especially in the influencer world, like they love working 1.00

00:32:22.080 with creators who have heavily female dominated demographics because women buy shit. 1.00

00:32:27.380 Yep. 1.00

00:32:27.800 Women convert.

00:32:28.820 Women will go to your concert. 1.00

00:32:30.080 They'll buy your merch. 0.60

00:32:30.960 They'll stand in line to meet you. 0.99

00:32:32.880 Like they'll do shit like that. 0.99

00:32:34.220 Men don't convert at all. 1.00

00:32:36.020 Interesting.

00:32:36.420 So like statistically speaking, if you want to be famous, you should have female girl 1.00

00:32:42.920 like fans.

00:32:43.620 Yeah.

00:32:43.860 Like that's why pop stars are so like you think about like the biggest pop stars in

00:32:48.060 the world, like yourself included.

00:32:49.720 But you have like people like Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande.

00:32:51.960 Yeah.

00:32:52.220 And she's, she's on that.

00:32:53.360 Oh my God.

00:32:54.900 I weigh you all the same.

00:32:57.040 Like in Sweden.

00:32:58.200 You're all the same to me.

00:32:59.680 But I think like women like yourselves, like you have large female audiences.

00:33:04.600 Yeah.

00:33:04.980 That's why.

00:33:05.540 And I love that.

00:33:06.460 You sustain.

00:33:06.940 Me too.

00:33:07.760 I get so sad.

00:33:08.960 Every time I go on like my Instagram statistics, you know, when it's like the gender circle.

00:33:13.720 It's all men. 1.00

00:33:14.160 I'm like not another man, not another percentage.

00:33:16.480 Take it away.

00:33:17.660 I just, I want the all.

00:33:19.060 That's so funny.

00:33:20.020 I did that.

00:33:20.660 I did.

00:33:20.960 This is something you guys can follow me.

00:33:22.140 But like keep it at like 15%.

00:33:24.780 Yeah.

00:33:25.580 You know, not too many of you.

00:33:27.260 Keep it, keep it, you know what I mean?

00:33:29.140 Keep it down low.

00:33:30.440 I showed my demographics once on TikTok.

00:33:32.960 I haven't checked them in a while, but like at one point I was like 96 for women, which

00:33:40.180 is like obviously doesn't factor in like non-binary people either.

00:33:43.280 But like when I was showing it, someone was like, how did you do that?

00:33:47.320 Like, how do you get only when mostly women? 0.99

00:33:49.800 I'm like, it's real easy.

00:33:51.120 You just get men and hate you.

00:33:52.520 Yeah.

00:33:53.160 Nothing quite does it like that.

00:33:54.460 I'm kind of surprised.

00:33:54.880 I'm like, why are you here?

00:33:56.440 Like I thought I made it clear. 0.99

00:33:59.140 I hate you. 1.00

00:34:00.960 Yeah.

00:34:01.340 Like that was actually one of my catalysts into being popular in Sweden where I'm from.

00:34:06.880 I had a blog that I used to run and I would just, I was a pioneer in Swedish feminism 0.79

00:34:13.580 when it came to like the mainstream of being like, I hate men. 0.92

00:34:17.060 Yeah.

00:34:17.560 And people were ripping out their hair.

00:34:19.560 A lot of girls also back in the days were like, you can't say that. 1.00

00:34:22.260 Like you're being sexist.

00:34:23.340 And it just wasn't like a mainstream thing.

00:34:25.600 Now, when you say like, I hate men, it's not as controversial because also I think people

00:34:30.140 have realized that it is, what it means.

00:34:32.900 And also, you know, the kind of content that you make is very reactionary.

00:34:36.900 Yeah.

00:34:37.280 It's not something that you just wake up and feel like saying.

00:34:40.340 Yeah.

00:34:40.500 I don't go find men who aren't doing anything and harass them.

00:34:43.220 Exactly.

00:34:43.840 But.

00:34:43.960 It's like men who are actively harassing women.

00:34:46.220 Right.

00:34:46.600 Exactly.

00:34:46.780 That's who I attack.

00:34:47.760 Exactly.

00:34:48.160 And I feel like the hate towards men is, have always been that. 1.00

00:34:53.080 Like men wake up and they're like, cool, we're going to like murder you and rape you. 1.00

00:34:57.180 Yeah. 1.00

00:34:57.580 And girls are like, you're bald. 1.00

00:34:59.400 Yeah.

00:34:59.720 And then they're like, how could you do this to me?

00:35:02.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:02.660 The amount of times I've had men be like, I can't believe you would do this.

00:35:06.340 Yeah.

00:35:06.620 I'm like, you made a really horrible, sinister joke.

00:35:10.320 And then I said.

00:35:11.940 Of a girl who didn't mention you.

00:35:14.220 She didn't bother you.

00:35:14.740 She was just living life.

00:35:15.960 And then I jumped in and I made you cry.

00:35:19.220 And now all of a sudden I'm the big bad wolf.

00:35:21.420 But I think it's really important.

00:35:22.440 The way they've demonized me is crazy.

00:35:24.360 Which is insane.

00:35:25.560 Because you're actually not that controversial.

00:35:28.360 No, not at all.

00:35:28.500 Like you are just funny.

00:35:29.680 And you're trying to make light of a really terrible situation.

00:35:33.220 Because like we can all sit and laugh at stuff.

00:35:35.460 And you are funny.

00:35:36.300 Like you know that.

00:35:37.040 It's entertaining.

00:35:38.660 And seeing it, it makes you feel good.

00:35:42.540 And it makes you feel like, okay, cool. 0.99

00:35:44.080 But then when you really deep it, shit's really sad. 0.99

00:35:48.260 It is. 1.00

00:35:48.640 It's horrible.

00:35:49.900 It's sad.

00:35:50.700 Yeah.

00:35:51.760 And it gets you angry.

00:35:54.040 Yeah.

00:35:54.500 And it's like, why are these men out here attacking women for no reason?

00:36:00.900 Like the fact that that is a thing that you get so much attention to.

00:36:07.040 That you are doing that.

00:36:07.900 Like why aren't people calling out these guys?

00:36:11.700 Like you are not the problem.

00:36:14.100 Yeah.

00:36:14.640 You are not the root cause of what's happening.

00:36:17.500 Well, yeah.

00:36:17.820 And I've talked about too how like it's really easy to like cast stones from the sideline.

00:36:23.560 Like you're not doing anything to stop it.

00:36:25.840 But you have a lot of opinions about how I choose to stop it.

00:36:29.000 So like that's on you.

00:36:30.700 That's not on me.

00:36:31.460 That's not a blame I'm going to shoulder.

00:36:32.920 But I've talked about how like the reason why I've been able to build a platform is literally

00:36:37.200 because they've found they've found community with me because they feel validated in their

00:36:42.800 anger.

00:36:43.340 Yeah.

00:36:43.720 Like you can be angry.

00:36:45.240 You can be mad.

00:36:46.080 You can mean.

00:36:47.380 It doesn't even have to be like, oh, you're you.

00:36:51.140 You want to change the world.

00:36:52.420 Like sometimes it's enough to just start a debate, start a conversation about it.

00:36:57.800 That leads to something bigger.

00:36:59.220 Yeah.

00:36:59.520 Because maybe you don't even want to get like super political. 0.99

00:37:03.300 You just want to say some shit and like laugh at people. 0.99

00:37:07.580 Yeah. 0.99

00:37:07.800 And that creates like these bigger ripples and waves that leads to the fact that people

00:37:13.180 are talking about it.

00:37:14.440 And like, okay, what is wrong?

00:37:15.860 You know?

00:37:16.280 A lot of my fans have told me that like that they feel they feel validated when they see

00:37:21.280 me because they feel like they've been conditioned to be nice all the time to like take the high

00:37:27.500 road, whatever.

00:37:28.200 And I've never done that.

00:37:29.780 So I've been like, you don't have to take the high road here.

00:37:32.000 I'll validate you.

00:37:33.160 Yeah. 1.00

00:37:33.800 You can be mean here all you want, bitch. 1.00

00:37:37.080 I'm for it. 1.00

00:37:38.200 Yeah.

00:37:38.800 In fact, I'll give you some insults.

00:37:40.600 I'll pad the repertoire for you, babe.

00:37:42.080 Right.

00:37:42.400 Right.

00:37:42.520 Right.

00:37:42.620 That's what I always say.

00:37:44.440 Okay.

00:37:44.700 This last comment on here says, sounds like the ladies need to step it up. 1.00

00:37:49.480 There are several I can think of that are doing well.

00:37:53.060 Girl.

00:37:54.420 Okay.

00:37:54.880 I'm on it.

00:37:55.660 Yeah.

00:37:56.520 Zara, did you get that?

00:37:57.400 I thought you got to step it up.

00:37:58.380 I got to step it up.

00:37:58.940 This guy said so.

00:38:00.160 Oh, man.

00:38:02.100 I mean, what do you-

00:38:02.860 Same thing to write.

00:38:03.740 But you know what's so like frustrating is that I believe that these guys like actually

00:38:09.240 believe that.

00:38:11.100 Like to them, it's like fully logical.

00:38:13.220 Yeah.

00:38:13.880 Yeah.

00:38:14.220 That's the crazy part.

00:38:15.400 And then you're like, so where do we go from here?

00:38:18.480 You know what I think?

00:38:19.300 I think people like that can vote.

00:38:21.080 That's crazy.

00:38:22.620 People who walk around with that noodling around in here determine the well-being of 1.00

00:38:27.700 my life.

00:38:28.240 Yeah.

00:38:28.440 That's insane.

00:38:29.460 Yeah.

00:38:29.960 I'm like, I can't believe you can drive a moving vehicle.

00:38:33.460 You know what I mean?

00:38:34.260 You should be, you should be locked in a padded cell until it's, this is fixed and then you

00:38:39.700 can enter the real world. 0.99

00:38:42.140 It's crazy to think like they just walk around thinking shit like that all the time. 1.00

00:38:45.220 It's nuts. 1.00

00:38:46.580 It truly is.

00:38:47.820 Okay.

00:38:48.100 We'll move on to this next video.

00:38:49.640 So this video is an edit showing several male performers wearing, playing t-shirts and

00:38:55.980 playing guitar on stage compared with female performers wearing like elaborate costumes, 0.96

00:39:00.220 huge production value choreography.

00:39:02.040 The caption is women in the music industry are expected to give more to be taken even half

00:39:07.120 as seriously.

00:39:08.260 Oh, that's true. 1.00

00:39:09.380 That's T, bitch. 1.00

00:39:10.580 That's T. 1.00

00:39:11.260 And I, I'll give you a good example.

00:39:14.780 I watched Charlie, I see X at Coachella.

00:39:17.220 Did you see her?

00:39:18.260 Her set was crazy. 1.00

00:39:20.460 This bitch was dancing her ass off. 1.00

00:39:22.940 I was like, you better work, bitch. 1.00

00:39:25.740 Yeah. 1.00

00:39:25.920 And then some of the men I watched, nothing.

00:39:29.320 Giving you nothing and they don't care if they give you nothing.

00:39:31.980 I don't even think I watched a guy.

00:39:33.500 I watched.

00:39:33.900 I watched FKJ.

00:39:35.020 Oh, yeah.

00:39:35.600 I watched KTrenada.

00:39:36.840 Oh, that one was a guy.

00:39:38.020 I wish I saw that one.

00:39:39.380 Well, and he's just kind of like, you know, yeah, but it's so true. 1.00

00:39:42.760 And I've been on tour with Ed Sheeran.

00:39:44.900 Oh, yeah.

00:39:46.280 Hey, I love Ed Sheeran, guys.

00:39:48.240 I love Ed Sheeran.

00:39:49.020 I truly do.

00:39:49.940 He's an amazing person.

00:39:51.400 He really is. 1.00

00:39:52.080 If he has one fan, it's me, bitch. 1.00

00:39:53.900 Yeah, he's the exception. 1.00

00:39:55.480 But you're right.

00:39:56.220 He stands there.

00:39:57.820 You're right, though.

00:39:58.520 He stands there.

00:39:59.060 He stands there.

00:39:59.860 Yeah.

00:40:00.220 And he's like getting up there in his pajamas.

00:40:03.500 Yeah.

00:40:03.720 Like, you know what I mean?

00:40:04.520 Actually, though.

00:40:05.800 And he just stands question time.

00:40:06.240 Makeup and hair?

00:40:06.800 What?

00:40:07.520 Custom?

00:40:08.020 What?

00:40:09.020 He's super talented.

00:40:10.120 But when you watch Ed Sheeran and then you go to a Taylor Swift concert or you go to a

00:40:17.880 Beyonce concert that do the same stadium capacities.

00:40:21.220 Yeah.

00:40:21.680 And you're like, could you imagine if Beyonce just like walked out in a flannel shirt and

00:40:26.960 was like, what's up, guys?

00:40:29.240 And just stood there.

00:40:30.200 Yeah.

00:40:30.640 Like, it's me and my guitar.

00:40:32.180 Yeah.

00:40:32.660 No dancing.

00:40:34.060 I think, or even Taylor Swift, I think, will be a closer comparison because she's a guitar

00:40:40.240 girl and she's such a writer, you know?

00:40:42.860 And we've seen, too, like videos where people are criticizing women who don't do enough.

00:40:48.540 They're like, she didn't even dance.

00:40:50.480 She didn't even do this. 0.99

00:40:51.280 She didn't even do that. 1.00

00:40:52.060 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:52.420 I wonder why.

00:40:53.340 Do you think it's because, like, women just have to be, like, look good all the time that 0.99

00:41:00.380 that is, like, half of the value of a woman that they expect us to do. 0.63

00:41:03.920 Like, that is a part of the show.

00:41:05.380 Yeah, I think it's this expectation that women are expected to entertain. 1.00

00:41:09.460 Yeah.

00:41:09.900 Like, entertain me, girl. 1.00

00:41:11.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:11.960 Whereas, like, men, even, like, regardless of how you identify, I feel like a lot of times

00:41:16.460 when you're going to go see a man perform, you just automatically assume they're not going

00:41:21.140 to perform.

00:41:21.980 Like, they're going to sing or they're going to rap or whatever, but they're not going to

00:41:26.020 dance.

00:41:26.400 They're not going to do costume changes.

00:41:28.080 Like, they're not going to have set design.

00:41:29.680 Yeah, like, who would be a guy who would really bring that?

00:41:32.880 I saw, well, I saw Bad Bunny, and he did that.

00:41:36.020 He did some moves?

00:41:37.040 Yeah, he danced a lot.

00:41:38.560 He had a lot of huge production value on the stage.

00:41:41.220 Like, he was, like, up really high and then came down low.

00:41:44.100 Oh, up.

00:41:44.580 They did this with him.

00:41:45.360 Walked, yeah.

00:41:45.820 Like, so I feel like he's an artist who, like, he has done that where he performs.

00:41:51.340 Yeah.

00:41:51.780 Doesn't just, like, rap or sing.

00:41:54.180 Yeah.

00:41:54.540 He performs.

00:41:55.420 Right.

00:41:55.700 But see, like, we both talked about loving Rosalia at Coachella, like, an artist.

00:42:00.600 Yeah, an artist.

00:42:01.220 The way she dances and films.

00:42:02.520 I would always love anybody who, like, brings me a show.

00:42:05.540 You know what I mean?

00:42:06.500 Same.

00:42:06.600 Like, I'm such a show girl.

00:42:08.660 Same.

00:42:09.240 I love when people have put in a lot of time in rehearsal.

00:42:13.740 Mm-hmm.

00:42:14.620 So, yeah.

00:42:15.420 I think it's just the bar's always much lower for a minute.

00:42:17.700 Oh, 100%.

00:42:18.480 Whether it's conscious or subconscious.

00:42:20.300 They're just kind of like it.

00:42:20.720 Even if they, like, do, like, a little bit of this with their feet.

00:42:22.740 Yeah, everyone's like, oh, my God.

00:42:24.480 Yeah.

00:42:24.800 She's a dancer. 1.00

00:42:29.200 Okay, so here are the comments on this video.

00:42:32.320 This one says, who's forcing the women to put on a big show like that? 1.00

00:42:36.680 I'm sure they chose to do what they like.

00:42:38.600 It has nothing to do with comparing genders.

00:42:42.000 Well, you would think that.

00:42:44.020 You know what I mean?

00:42:45.020 And also, that's not technically true.

00:42:46.360 But also, that's what we were saying.

00:42:47.760 Yeah.

00:42:48.420 I don't necessarily want the women to not do the show. 0.99

00:42:51.620 Yeah.

00:42:51.740 I want the guys to do the show.

00:42:53.080 Level up.

00:42:53.680 Level up, baby.

00:42:54.980 The top is lonely.

00:42:56.060 Come join me up here.

00:42:57.240 That's what I mean.

00:42:57.800 You know what I mean?

00:42:58.500 I think, I feel like, I don't know.

00:43:00.500 Isn't it true you guys plan?

00:43:01.920 You plan a tour well in advance, right?

00:43:03.920 Oh, for sure.

00:43:04.520 Like a whole show from top to bottom.

00:43:05.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:06.020 So, they want you to put on a show.

00:43:08.340 They absolutely do.

00:43:09.200 Yeah, and I do.

00:43:10.060 Yeah.

00:43:10.280 I want to put on a show.

00:43:11.300 Yeah.

00:43:11.920 And I don't think anyone is really, I mean, this also comes down to, like, do we

00:43:17.340 do we have a choice?

00:43:18.320 Can you be a pop star and not do all of those things?

00:43:22.220 Exactly.

00:43:22.320 But, like, it's the illusion of a choice.

00:43:24.400 Yeah.

00:43:24.560 But I've always looked up to, I mean, when I was growing up, I was just listening to

00:43:28.600 women and they were all big voices and they were all dancing, costumes, lights.

00:43:36.580 Like, performing.

00:43:37.420 Ooh, like, it was performing.

00:43:39.040 And I love that.

00:43:40.640 I think it's such a big part of who I am, too.

00:43:42.800 Yeah.

00:43:43.260 But then, I don't know, like, I'm not, I've never seen, like, a rock band.

00:43:48.840 I don't know what they're up to.

00:43:50.240 Yeah.

00:43:50.940 I don't know what they're doing.

00:43:51.600 I don't know what you guys do.

00:43:52.500 Yeah.

00:43:52.700 I mean, I did see the Jonas Brothers on tour.

00:44:00.060 I did watch them.

00:44:00.720 I don't know if you can count that as a rock band.

00:44:02.080 Were they.

00:44:03.420 I don't know if you can count that.

00:44:04.680 All the men are going to be like, that's not rock.

00:44:06.540 There is a guitar in there.

00:44:07.840 Listen.

00:44:08.440 Drums?

00:44:08.720 There's several.

00:44:09.460 There's, like, four.

00:44:10.380 Wow.

00:44:10.500 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:10.860 Drums, keys, all that shit. 1.00

00:44:13.000 Listen. 0.99

00:44:13.800 That's my rock band.

00:44:14.900 Yeah.

00:44:15.420 That was my version of rock when I was younger.

00:44:18.520 This next comment says, that's so not true.

00:44:21.820 Also, what's with the double standard?

00:44:23.600 It's always women can dress up for themselves until that doesn't suit your argument. 1.00

00:44:29.300 You're just real apples and oranges, babe.

00:44:31.240 Those aren't, those two things aren't the same. 0.96

00:44:33.400 We're talking about work and we're talking about, like, wanting to let your titties out 0.97

00:44:37.020 when you go around. 0.92

00:44:37.900 Like, those are two very different things.

00:44:40.220 Yeah.

00:44:40.420 It's called a straw man argument.

00:44:41.560 Yeah.

00:44:41.740 I want to see, like, put on Jay-Z in a leotard.

00:44:45.800 Or not.

00:44:46.520 Those two, like, those two pairs of pantyhose that girls wear? 1.00

00:44:50.120 Yeah.

00:44:50.500 I think Beyonce, I don't know if Beyonce started that, but I know she talked about wearing,

00:44:53.980 like, one pair first and then rhinestones after.

00:44:56.440 Uh-huh.

00:44:57.220 It's probably more than two.

00:44:58.840 Probably.

00:44:58.920 I heard it's, like, more than two.

00:45:00.260 Oh.

00:45:01.060 So many pairs of pantyhose.

00:45:02.400 I can't even imagine.

00:45:03.920 Oh, my goodness gracious.

00:45:05.200 That would kill me.

00:45:06.720 But also, like, women dress up for themselves. 1.00

00:45:09.220 That's why I said, we're talking about work.

00:45:10.880 Like, that's work for them.

00:45:12.280 Like, they go to work and they have to get dressed up.

00:45:14.220 And their job is to entertain.

00:45:15.560 Yeah.

00:45:15.860 But it also comes down to, like, the illusion of a choice.

00:45:18.180 Yeah.

00:45:18.360 Because we can say, like, oh, my God, I feel great in makeup.

00:45:20.280 I do feel great in makeup.

00:45:21.420 Yeah.

00:45:21.460 I love looking beautiful and pretty.

00:45:22.960 Yeah.

00:45:23.340 But that's also because I'm expected to.

00:45:25.440 Yeah.

00:45:25.700 That's true.

00:45:25.800 So, like, if I show up here and just, like, I just got out of bed, people would be like,

00:45:32.660 are you sick? 0.51

00:45:34.180 Are you okay?

00:45:35.040 Are you okay?

00:45:35.880 Yeah, literally.

00:45:36.060 Are you going to do something?

00:45:37.560 You know?

00:45:38.580 Just like, you know.

00:45:40.440 But then it makes you.

00:45:44.180 It does make you feel pretty, doesn't it?

00:45:46.400 Yeah.

00:45:46.580 And you always feel good when you feel like you're slaying.

00:45:49.720 A date to slay.

00:45:50.720 And it depends on what the slay looks like.

00:45:53.180 Just depends on the day.

00:45:54.180 Uh-huh.

00:45:54.760 I always look for compliments from the girlies.

00:45:58.220 Same.

00:45:58.780 You know what I mean?

00:45:59.340 Same.

00:45:59.660 They don't mean anything for men to me.

00:46:01.420 Honestly, not.

00:46:01.640 I'm just like, what do you want?

00:46:02.840 When they say something nice to me, I'm like, what do you want?

00:46:04.320 Shoo.

00:46:04.680 Shoo.

00:46:05.160 Yeah, one time I was shopping.

00:46:06.660 I think it was Christmas.

00:46:07.180 Yeah, it was, like, Christmas shopping in a department store.

00:46:09.800 And I asked this guy, like, for help.

00:46:11.560 I'm like, hey, can you tell me where this is?

00:46:13.020 He's like, oh, yeah, it's over there.

00:46:14.580 And I'm like, okay, cool, thanks.

00:46:15.680 And I walked over there by myself, and I was, like, looking through stuff.

00:46:18.860 And then he, like, appears out of nowhere.

00:46:20.540 He's like, hey, like, behind me, I'm like, oh, my God.

00:46:23.160 And he's like, you smell so good.

00:46:25.460 Like, what are you wearing?

00:46:26.760 And I was like, um.

00:46:28.280 And I, like, I don't even remember what I was wearing.

00:46:30.300 I think it was, like, that baccarat.

00:46:31.820 Uh-huh.

00:46:32.620 And I was like, oh, I'm wearing baccarat.

00:46:34.160 He's like, oh, it smells so nice.

00:46:35.440 I'm like, what do you want?

00:46:36.960 You need something.

00:46:39.220 Am I working here?

00:46:40.340 Yeah.

00:46:40.820 So I was like, girl, you came from across the store.

00:46:44.160 What do you want?

00:46:45.280 Because I don't like the compliment.

00:46:47.060 Right.

00:46:47.440 Turns out he was hitting on me.

00:46:48.640 It was creepy weird.

00:46:49.380 And I was like, I have a boyfriend.

00:46:51.360 Yeah. 0.97

00:46:51.920 But, like, he didn't know who the s*** I was at all. 0.96

00:46:53.600 Right. 0.93

00:46:53.800 But I was just like, as soon as it gets, you get two questions from me.

00:46:58.620 After that, I'm starting to be mean.

00:47:00.360 I'm like, do you need something?

00:47:01.480 Right.

00:47:02.340 No.

00:47:03.240 Okay, leave me alone.

00:47:04.760 Mm-hmm.

00:47:05.240 And sometimes when I joke about that, men are like, oh, so men can't just talk to women?

00:47:10.480 No, you can't.

00:47:11.440 Don't talk to me.

00:47:13.000 No.

00:47:13.800 The answer is no.

00:47:14.840 Don't talk to me.

00:47:15.460 Right.

00:47:15.900 No.

00:47:17.120 And they don't believe me.

00:47:18.140 They're like, oh, if men never talk to you again?

00:47:20.100 No.

00:47:20.400 If a man never spoke to me again, it would be too soon.

00:47:22.740 Before I leave this earthly plane, if a man never spoke to me again, it'd be too soon.

00:47:27.660 Wow.

00:47:28.780 I love that.

00:47:29.420 You know what?

00:47:30.200 They've lost privilege at this point with me.

00:47:32.520 No, I hear that.

00:47:32.860 Sometimes you give them an inch, they'll take a mile.

00:47:35.720 Man.

00:47:37.640 But you don't really have, we were just talking about this earlier, you don't really have

00:47:40.600 anyone coming up.

00:47:41.440 Because I bet you get a lot of negative Nancy, not Nancy's, negative Nicholas, I don't know,

00:47:49.340 online.

00:47:49.960 Yeah.

00:47:50.240 You know what I'm saying?

00:47:50.780 Oh, yeah.

00:47:51.080 But they never come up to you in real life.

00:47:52.800 No.

00:47:53.340 Because they don't actually have the boss to do that.

00:47:56.720 Yeah.

00:47:56.880 Or like, why do you think that?

00:47:58.580 Because I've never had that either.

00:47:59.640 Yeah.

00:47:59.740 And I had like a lot of hate, like online, especially when I used to run my blog, as I was talking

00:48:03.820 about.

00:48:04.780 And all I get is like girls coming up to me saying, you are amazing.

00:48:09.880 Like, I love what you're doing.

00:48:11.040 So.

00:48:11.820 Yeah.

00:48:11.980 No, I never really get.

00:48:13.220 But it really makes you feel like, you know what?

00:48:16.960 I'm not interested.

00:48:17.640 I'm not interested in you guys.

00:48:18.780 Even before I had this platform, I was like, don't talk to me.

00:48:21.180 Yeah.

00:48:21.440 Hey, don't talk to me.

00:48:22.360 Yeah.

00:48:22.700 No, I don't need your help.

00:48:23.680 Even if I'm, if I'm lost and stranded in the woods, don't talk to me.

00:48:27.920 I don't want help.

00:48:29.060 I'm good.

00:48:29.900 I'm good.

00:48:30.680 Thank you.

00:48:31.540 Thank you.

00:48:32.280 Yeah.

00:48:32.860 Yeah.

00:48:33.040 I think too, uh, with, with like getting hate or having someone talk to me in real life,

00:48:38.600 I've only ever had one kind of like that, but it wasn't even like, um, like it wasn't

00:48:43.980 a fan.

00:48:44.380 It was actually like another creator, but interesting. 0.99

00:48:46.460 I didn't know who the f**k he was. 0.89

00:48:47.940 Like I had just met him that day, like earlier in the day. 0.97

00:48:51.160 And, uh, we were, we did some work stuff together.

00:48:55.140 I didn't know him.

00:48:55.760 We just got randomly grouped together and we worked together a little bit and he hated 1.00

00:49:00.280 me by the end of the thing we did because he was an asshole. 0.99

00:49:03.080 And I was like, you were not having it in front of an audience. 1.00

00:49:06.240 I don't give a damn bitch. 1.00

00:49:07.480 If your mom's in the audience, I'm going to be rude too. 1.00

00:49:09.720 If you're being rude, you know what I mean?

00:49:10.820 So I was like standing up for two other people and he was like trying to bully us.

00:49:14.860 And it was like a, like a, like a fan central center thing.

00:49:19.300 Anyways, he was, he was way older than me too.

00:49:20.620 I feel like you're like really strong in that.

00:49:22.780 Well, yeah, I stood up for myself.

00:49:24.300 I stood up for two other guys that were with me.

00:49:26.560 Yeah.

00:49:26.660 And even those guys, like their teams came up to me and they were like, thank you so

00:49:30.020 much for like standing up for my client.

00:49:31.580 Like he was really nervous to do it.

00:49:33.060 And I was like, yeah, no worries. 0.99

00:49:34.700 Like, and I ran into that asshole later on in the night and he had been drinking. 0.99

00:49:39.940 Oh. 1.00

00:49:40.220 So then, you know, he gets a little courage, gets a little brave.

00:49:43.100 So we're like waiting to go on a rollercoaster, literally like, cause they rented a park for

00:49:47.980 us for the thing I was doing.

00:49:49.360 And so we were waiting to go on a rollercoaster and it was like me and my boyfriend.

00:49:52.660 And then there was a random couple between us and then there was him and his like wife

00:49:56.600 or something.

00:49:57.160 Right.

00:49:58.320 And he was like a little tipsy.

00:50:01.540 So he like turns on, he sees me and he's like, so I guess we're not all bad.

00:50:06.760 Like that's how he says it to me.

00:50:07.940 First of all, white guy with dreads. 1.00

00:50:09.020 Oh, shut up. 1.00

00:50:09.980 First of all, white guy with dreads. 1.00

00:50:11.180 Do with that information what you want. 0.64

00:50:13.320 I don't want to call a spade a spade, but you know, it is what it is.

00:50:15.760 What?

00:50:15.920 He was like referring to your boyfriend.

00:50:17.600 Yeah.

00:50:18.520 Well, I, he, he started the conversation as if we were talking already, which we weren't,

00:50:23.680 which is how I knew he was trying.

00:50:25.560 So he said that.

00:50:27.200 And then I was like, what?

00:50:29.020 And then he goes, I see you're with a man. 1.00

00:50:31.700 Oh, shut up. 0.99

00:50:32.300 And I go, this is my boyfriend. 1.00

00:50:33.540 Uh huh.

00:50:34.140 And then he goes, oh, like he didn't, I think he just assumed I was single.

00:50:38.900 Yeah.

00:50:39.420 Yeah.

00:50:39.740 Like girl hate man, girl probably be single. 1.00

00:50:42.600 And, um, my man's way bigger than him.

00:50:44.540 So like, and, and better looking, listen, that's not being, being biased.

00:50:48.100 Like for realsies.

00:50:48.940 Just objectively.

00:50:49.900 If we're talking teams, you know what I mean?

00:50:51.760 And so then, and then he goes, oh, and he was like, well, I just assumed because of 0.99

00:50:56.200 all, all the shit you say, I just assumed you hate all of us. 0.99

00:50:59.240 And then I go, I never said that. 1.00

00:51:00.600 Just you specifically.

00:51:01.800 Yeah. 0.99

00:51:02.280 Just, well, I hate you. 0.98

00:51:03.740 Yeah. 0.88

00:51:04.140 Even in case I was lost.

00:51:05.280 Right. 0.99

00:51:05.540 I do hate you. 1.00

00:51:06.200 I don't hate all of them, but I do hate you. 1.00

00:51:08.360 Yeah.

00:51:09.040 And when he said that, I go, I never said that.

00:51:11.780 And then he was like, it was so palpably awkward.

00:51:15.560 Like the couple in front of us was kind of like, like they felt weird.

00:51:19.620 And his wife kept going, stop, stop, stop. 1.00

00:51:21.900 Like she was embarrassed.

00:51:23.060 And she probably follows you.

00:51:25.240 They all do.

00:51:26.200 You know what I mean?

00:51:27.080 And he even, he ended up like, he like, the rollercoaster came and he like went to get

00:51:32.140 on and he turned around and he like tried to, he tried to like shake my boyfriend's hand. 0.99

00:51:36.440 Oh, shut up. 0.99

00:51:36.940 But my boyfriend didn't reach out to him. 0.99

00:51:39.000 So he just stood there and he goes, oh, just want to thank you for taking one for the team.

00:51:42.720 Like as if I'm like the worst.

00:51:44.480 And him is like, it's like a huge sacrifice to do with me. 0.99

00:51:47.560 And then he gets on the rollercoaster and I was like, what a bitch move. 1.00

00:51:51.360 Like you said that and then got on something that runs at 200 miles an hour. 0.99

00:51:54.620 Like I can't catch you.

00:51:55.600 Right.

00:51:56.060 And then when he got on the rollercoaster, I was like, hey, wait for me.

00:51:59.040 Hey, hey, when, when you land, wait for me at the exit.

00:52:01.440 I'll talk.

00:52:01.800 I'll finish the conversation if you want.

00:52:03.600 And then he was just like, he just wouldn't look at me.

00:52:05.680 Like he just put his little thing on dreads hanging out. 1.00

00:52:09.600 That's what I thought you bitch. 1.00

00:52:11.360 No, no, he didn't. 0.99

00:52:12.520 See, I couldn't know where to be found that whole ride.

00:52:15.660 I thought I was going to die the whole time, but I was like, I can't wait to see that

00:52:18.140 guy.

00:52:20.020 Me just made you excited.

00:52:22.960 Didn't even remember the rollercoaster.

00:52:24.400 I'm just thinking about him the whole time.

00:52:26.440 Come back.

00:52:26.840 He wasn't there.

00:52:27.260 That's funny.

00:52:27.600 See?

00:52:28.300 Crazy.

00:52:28.940 Yeah.

00:52:29.260 That's the only real like interaction I've had where it was like with someone who clearly

00:52:32.280 didn't like me.

00:52:32.660 Because I just like whenever, when, when we met, we didn't meet, when I saw you, I was

00:52:36.760 like really anxious that night.

00:52:37.700 I didn't really walk up to anybody, but I did send you a message after.

00:52:40.100 And I was like, Hey, and then I was like, Hey, and then I was like, you know, just make sure

00:52:44.920 to, cause I just know having that many people like coming at me, it did affect me in a way

00:52:50.140 that I didn't, I didn't want it to because I feel like I'm so strong and like, Oh, I can

00:52:54.100 handle anything.

00:52:54.580 But then I think once I like stopped blogging and like got some time to myself, that's

00:53:00.640 when I'm like, these people are in saying, and people coming at you like that is kind

00:53:06.800 of like, I don't think any person in this world is meant to have thousands upon thousands

00:53:12.720 and thousands of followers, or even up to them.

00:53:15.100 It's like, like a human thing.

00:53:17.440 It's not normal.

00:53:19.020 Yeah.

00:53:19.320 And our brains can't really process that.

00:53:21.420 Yeah.

00:53:21.660 But it is good to know that you have a huge part that is like a thousand times more supportive.

00:53:32.540 Yeah. 0.98

00:53:32.940 But it's still like, it's just sometimes you're like, shut up. 0.98

00:53:35.540 Yeah.

00:53:36.140 It's like 95, five, like, you know, support.

00:53:39.280 It's like the good always outweighs the bad.

00:53:41.440 100%.

00:53:41.840 But I always appreciate that, especially from people who have been in the industry for a

00:53:45.240 really long time.

00:53:46.240 I always appreciate, um, any sort of like advice and stuff about like taking care of yourself

00:53:51.300 in the midst of stuff like that.

00:53:52.480 It's hard.

00:53:52.980 Yeah.

00:53:53.200 Cause it'd be hard. 0.98

00:53:53.780 And then we can laugh about it and be like, but it's like, you are insane. 0.98

00:53:57.240 Yeah. 0.98

00:53:58.000 Yeah.

00:53:58.600 That's why that's the most asked question I get when people are like, I don't know how you

00:54:01.720 do that girl. 1.00

00:54:02.240 Like deal with the hate and stuff.

00:54:03.400 I'm like, well, I feel like, well, first of all the time, I'm like, I'm like, 0.99

00:54:05.520 first of all, like no fuck. 0.99

00:54:07.360 I was going to tell me I'm ugly. 1.00

00:54:08.500 That's for sure. 0.54

00:54:09.040 That's one too.

00:54:10.200 I always, I feel like I have a really supportive family unit and in team.

00:54:14.420 So I feel like that helps me a lot in real life in real life.

00:54:17.320 Yeah.

00:54:17.520 Cause it's not all digital.

00:54:19.360 Totally.

00:54:19.840 And I think too, me being older helps too.

00:54:22.380 Yeah.

00:54:22.600 But also me being therapy helps too.

00:54:25.500 Like when I, when this especially took off for me, I was like, I really prioritize going

00:54:30.220 to therapy.

00:54:30.960 Cause I was like, I need that because I need to be able to like take care of myself too. 0.96

00:54:35.780 Cause even, even as someone like myself who like really doesn't give a shit about hate, 0.87

00:54:39.640 um, it does weigh on you over time. 0.65

00:54:42.620 Not necessarily the hate, but just having people, opinions, just having people like opinions

00:54:48.140 about you, whether it's good or bad, it's, it's a weird thing.

00:54:52.020 It's a very weird thing.

00:54:53.080 But yeah, no, I hear that.

00:54:54.160 And I'm, I'm, that's actually kind of nice that you are like a grown woman because being

00:54:57.940 like 15, 16 and just having like 40 year old men like coming at you, you're like,

00:55:02.260 it's crazy.

00:55:04.300 What's happening?

00:55:04.960 I've had some of the, I actually saw a hate video about myself yesterday by someone that

00:55:09.280 I believe is in their like fifties.

00:55:12.240 Yeah.

00:55:12.760 It is.

00:55:13.380 It is crazy.

00:55:14.240 Dude from Florida teeth stacked on top of each other. 0.73

00:55:17.020 I'm like, you got bigger problems, babe.

00:55:18.760 Like go see the orthodontist, like get off TikTok and go to the dentist.

00:55:22.480 I don't know.

00:55:23.540 But he like stuff like that. 0.83

00:55:24.840 Old men coming at you is crazy. 0.97

00:55:27.500 I'm always like, I'm like, you're in love with me.

00:55:29.320 No, truly.

00:55:30.280 Like you want me so bad.

00:55:31.940 It's crazy.

00:55:32.720 I also think like, don't you have affairs to get in order?

00:55:35.540 Don't you have a plot of land to pick for your body when you die in two days?

00:55:39.060 Like girl, get it together.

00:55:41.540 Pick out that casket, mama. 1.00

00:55:43.060 Don't worry about me.

00:55:44.380 That's why I'm always like, you know what?

00:55:46.140 You got bigger problems.

00:55:47.700 Old people are like coming at you on social media. 1.00

00:55:50.200 It's crazy.

00:55:50.780 I'll never get used to that.

00:55:52.320 Young dudes make sense.

00:55:53.420 And they're so like, they're never funny, but they're never even like, oh, you kind of

00:55:58.720 got me a little bit.

00:55:59.520 No, no, no. 0.99

00:56:00.500 And they would like original shit ever. 0.99

00:56:03.060 The best thing is when they would like do like a little like Facebook post that they 0.98

00:56:07.540 would write something and then they would do, you know, when it's like skip the.

00:56:12.320 Yeah.

00:56:12.840 And it's like, why are you doing an essay?

00:56:15.260 They're writing you like a little comment thread.

00:56:17.540 Yeah.

00:56:17.900 They do that to me on TikTok because I'm so petty.

00:56:21.340 Like if they start writing me a thread and they're like one and they're like, this is

00:56:25.940 why I think like blah, blah, blah.

00:56:27.500 As soon as they get to like two or three, I delete it.

00:56:30.020 Yeah.

00:56:30.400 Delete it.

00:56:30.800 Block them.

00:56:31.200 Yeah.

00:56:31.620 Yeah.

00:56:32.140 And then I just, I laugh. 1.00

00:56:33.400 I cackle to myself because they're like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:56:36.540 And then they go on a backup account and they come back and they're like, she deleted what 0.99

00:56:39.460 I was saying.

00:56:39.840 Anyways, this is what I was trying to finish.

00:56:41.180 And then I delete it.

00:56:41.880 Block again. 0.88

00:56:42.840 Yeah.

00:56:42.980 It's like a little game.

00:56:43.900 Why do you think?

00:56:44.520 I feel like it's tennis.

00:56:45.840 Yeah.

00:56:46.320 When I do that, I'm just like, yeah, I just do that because it pisses them off.

00:56:49.760 That makes me laugh.

00:56:51.700 Hilarious.

00:56:52.200 Yeah.

00:56:53.860 Or sometimes someone will say something like really, they'll write out this really horrible

00:56:58.520 comment and talk about what a terrible person I am.

00:57:00.480 Yeah.

00:57:00.880 And they'll be like, you should, you should do this.

00:57:02.800 You should change.

00:57:03.480 You should do this.

00:57:04.340 And then I just write, no.

00:57:05.600 No.

00:57:06.840 And that's it.

00:57:08.860 Thank you.

00:57:09.160 Oh man.

00:57:09.660 Nothing makes them more mad.

00:57:10.860 That's why when, when people ask me, how do I like be mean to men too?

00:57:15.260 It's really quite easy.

00:57:16.360 If you just, if you make a little jokey joke, they can't stand that.

00:57:19.600 They take that a lot more seriously than they do if you like argue with them.

00:57:23.060 Yeah.

00:57:23.340 Because it just proves like, I'm not taking you seriously.

00:57:25.860 Yeah.

00:57:26.460 I'll just, we'll sit and we'll goof all day long.

00:57:28.840 I love to joke.

00:57:29.880 Everybody knows that about me.

00:57:31.020 I love to joke.

00:57:31.680 Yep.

00:57:31.860 Yep.

00:57:32.080 Yep.

00:57:32.220 I feel that. 0.99

00:57:32.980 At the end of the day, I'm a silly goose. 0.98

00:57:34.760 It is what it is. 0.98

00:57:36.920 Okay.

00:57:37.280 So we've reached the end.

00:57:39.620 We've talked a lot about.

00:57:41.420 Women in the music industry.

00:57:42.640 What would you say is your like best piece of advice for like up and coming artists,

00:57:47.420 like specifically women in the industry? 0.85

00:57:49.200 I would say to.

00:57:56.080 Honestly though, like we already touched upon.

00:57:58.280 Yeah.

00:57:58.500 I think it's so important to surround yourself with people that you trust.

00:58:01.460 Yeah.

00:58:01.820 And who actually wants what's best for you.

00:58:03.520 Um, because music is great and it's fun, but it's also a whole life out there that you

00:58:11.520 need to live and you need to feel good about what you're doing and yourself.

00:58:15.440 So just to like have people that you trust around you to just have fun, do whatever you want

00:58:23.560 to do at the end of the day, I think, uh, life is about having fun.

00:58:30.620 Yeah.

00:58:31.180 I do think so.

00:58:32.020 Um, and, um, to, I don't know, like, but be yourself, keep going.

00:58:46.280 It's really hard.

00:58:47.600 It's really hard to go up with.

00:58:48.340 It sounds cheesy, but it's true. 0.82

00:58:49.120 Yeah, it is.

00:58:49.560 It is cheesy and true.

00:58:50.960 Yeah.

00:58:51.360 Um, I don't know.

00:58:54.140 Just, just like hit up some girlies. 0.56

00:58:57.740 Yeah.

00:58:58.000 Just to surround yourself with like a strong unit.

00:59:00.520 Yeah.

00:59:00.840 It's like you said earlier, you kind of take what you're given, um, at a point in your

00:59:05.740 career when, when you don't really have much of a choice.

00:59:08.660 Yeah.

00:59:09.180 But, uh, yeah, to just like have fun.

00:59:13.300 It's music.

00:59:14.360 It's amazing.

00:59:15.320 It can change people's lives, but it also doesn't cure cancer.

00:59:18.860 Yeah.

00:59:19.440 Like, yeah, we're just out here.

00:59:21.400 Just have a good time.

00:59:22.200 Yeah.

00:59:22.520 Have fun.

00:59:23.540 Yeah.

00:59:23.860 The minute it stops being fun.

00:59:25.380 Yeah.

00:59:25.620 Probably shouldn't do it.

00:59:26.400 Yeah.

00:59:26.920 I feel you.

00:59:27.480 I think too, a lot of people take it really seriously too, because they want to make it,

00:59:32.260 which is a good thing.

00:59:33.280 100%.

00:59:33.640 But then I think you like, kind of, you burn yourself out faster that way.

00:59:37.240 And also, put it on TikTok.

00:59:40.580 Yeah.

00:59:41.120 That's a great piece of advice.

00:59:42.780 Hell yeah.

00:59:43.620 That's so true.

00:59:44.260 But my sister, she's so good.

00:59:46.020 She's so creative and she's so talented and she's working with her best friend, Andrea.

00:59:51.060 They have a group called Lennox.

00:59:52.620 Oh no.

00:59:52.900 And she, yeah, she's great.

00:59:54.220 But she, like, refuses to put herself out there.

00:59:59.300 Like, she has the music.

01:00:00.480 She has the videos.

01:00:01.520 But then I'm like, make a TikTok.

01:00:04.840 Yeah.

01:00:04.980 And she's like, how are people going to hear you?

01:00:08.320 Yeah.

01:00:08.800 Just, like, not be afraid to put yourself out there and to advertise for yourself.

01:00:14.500 Yeah.

01:00:14.720 Like, be your biggest fan.

01:00:16.920 Hell yeah, girl. 1.00

01:00:17.820 I say that all the time.

01:00:18.740 I'm like, I'll market the hell out of myself.

01:00:21.040 100%.

01:00:21.480 You have to.

01:00:21.680 I think, honestly, that is, like, 50% of it.

01:00:23.880 Yeah.

01:00:24.020 Because I think sometimes, I've also been in that situation where I'm like, oh no, no,

01:00:27.600 I'll post one picture.

01:00:28.660 And then I'm like, my single's out.

01:00:29.700 Yeah.

01:00:29.880 And that's it.

01:00:30.520 Yeah.

01:00:31.340 How are people going to know?

01:00:32.660 Yeah.

01:00:33.500 And if you, you're going to be.

01:00:34.380 I guess I might miss that post.

01:00:35.980 And then, you know, 80% of those people who see it might not even go in.

01:00:40.040 They're like, you better shove it down people's throats.

01:00:42.420 I'm telling you, girl.

01:00:43.440 I posted that I was Spotify exclusive.

01:00:45.400 Uh-huh.

01:00:45.820 I can't tell you how many comments I got where people were like, oh my god, congrats on the

01:00:49.540 new show.

01:00:50.100 Girl, I've been doing this for a year.

01:00:51.300 You know what I mean?

01:00:51.900 What do you mean, new show?

01:00:53.640 You gotta keep posting it.

01:00:55.360 And they're like, oh my god.

01:00:56.600 I posted yesterday because I'm writing a book.

01:00:58.240 So I posted yesterday that I was, I was like, oh, this is going to be in my book.

01:01:02.080 People were like, oh my god, girl, congrats on the book.

01:01:03.900 I talked about that a month ago. 1.00

01:01:05.680 You bitches don't listen. 1.00

01:01:07.100 Exactly. 1.00

01:01:07.800 Love it.

01:01:07.960 Exactly.

01:01:08.480 No, keep putting yourself out there.

01:01:10.000 Yeah, I got to.

01:01:10.700 And even like, repost stuff.

01:01:12.460 Like, just really be your biggest fan and advertiser and advocate.

01:01:19.000 Yeah.

01:01:19.320 Love.

01:01:19.980 Thank you so much for coming on the show.

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01:01:21.960 I adore you.

01:01:22.760 Thank you everyone for watching this episode.

01:01:24.640 Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Zara Larson.

01:01:26.620 Where can everybody find you?

01:01:28.300 Zara Larson.

01:01:29.140 Everywhere.

01:01:29.640 Everywhere.

01:01:29.940 Easy peasy.

01:01:30.820 Stream Zara Larson on Spotify.

01:01:32.220 Or you can rip it off YouTube like I did.

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01:01:36.180 Just kidding.

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01:01:41.180 Thank you so much for my amazing guest, Zara Larson.

01:01:43.460 And don't forget to stream the comment section.

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The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - May 24, 2023

BEYONCE IN A FLANNEL SHIRT？ Ft. Zara Larsson ｜ Drew Afualo ｜ THE COMMENT SECTION EP 67

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