The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

00:00:00.000 The first thing I thought, I was like, well, I'm probably gay, and she was like, well, how do you know you're not?

00:00:04.000 And I was like, because I tried it, and it didn't work, and I wish that it did.

00:00:09.200 Hey, the MILF, the MILF's being too jizz.

00:00:12.400 I tried to be straight, too.

00:00:13.720 But some people tried to be straight, and it didn't, I didn't, when I was a kid, I...

00:00:18.720 I took my time in.

00:00:19.460 Yeah, you really did.

00:00:20.420 Well, you're one of the front-line soldiers.

00:00:22.020 Yeah.

00:00:30.000 Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show, starring me, your fave.

00:00:33.840 Everybody knows me.

00:00:34.640 Who cares about me?

00:00:35.920 On to the guests.

00:00:37.080 Today, we have the gay icons, the iconic, the legendary, Muna.

00:00:41.980 Woo!

00:00:44.420 Welcome to the show, Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

00:00:46.720 Let's go.

00:00:47.340 Nice to see all three of you.

00:00:48.340 Yeah, you said it.

00:00:49.360 Thank you for having us on.

00:00:50.620 Let's go down the line.

00:00:51.880 We'll introduce everyone, even though I'm sure everybody knows who you are.

00:00:54.460 I'm Josette.

00:00:55.520 I'm Jill.

00:00:56.200 Yeah, fuck.

00:00:56.740 Yeah, Joe.

00:00:58.400 Oh, wait, can I...

00:00:58.980 Fuck, you got that wrong.

00:00:59.880 Yes, absolutely, you can.

00:01:01.840 You can say whatever you want.

00:01:03.840 Fuck.

00:01:06.240 Don't give us too much freedom.

00:01:08.600 Jizz.

00:01:09.240 Cock.

00:01:10.140 Jizz.

00:01:11.740 Jizz.

00:01:12.420 Once again.

00:01:13.020 That's not Katie's name, by the way.

00:01:15.360 This is Joe, Katie.

00:01:16.840 Jizz.

00:01:17.720 Yeah.

00:01:17.920 And Naomi.

00:01:19.080 Yeah.

00:01:19.820 Yeah.

00:01:21.300 You guys get...

00:01:22.220 You intro'd us, so we don't have to.

00:01:23.740 Yeah, there we go.

00:01:24.360 It's better.

00:01:24.760 We'll go again.

00:01:25.500 Joe, Katie, Naomi.

00:01:26.880 I want to say...

00:01:27.680 I can't say what I want to say.

00:01:28.980 Do you guys watch I Think You Should Leave?

00:01:31.020 No.

00:01:32.220 I've heard it's just so cringe, and I get scared.

00:01:35.160 Dude, you look...

00:01:35.940 I beg to differ, Katie.

00:01:37.160 No, no, no, not cringing that way, but, like, cringes in, like, really awkward situations.

00:01:42.000 I don't think I could watch that.

00:01:45.260 You would like it.

00:01:46.060 I bet I could handle it, but...

00:01:48.180 There is one.

00:01:49.220 Well, first, before we get into that, welcome to the show.

00:01:51.720 Thank you.

00:01:52.080 Happy to have you on.

00:01:52.860 We're ready to slip and slide right into the show.

00:01:57.340 Legendary.

00:01:57.840 You guys are gay icons.

00:01:59.280 Yeah.

00:01:59.820 And I'm sure my audience is going to freak the fuck out when they see I've had you guys on.

00:02:04.140 Yeah.

00:02:04.300 Today's actually our straight announcement.

00:02:06.640 Yeah.

00:02:07.860 You guys are coming out again.

00:02:09.160 Yeah, we're coming out.

00:02:10.060 It's been exhausting.

00:02:12.080 I fought a good fight.

00:02:13.680 I'm over it now.

00:02:14.460 And despite...

00:02:15.140 Yeah, despite this outfit, I am retiring.

00:02:17.820 Yeah.

00:02:18.900 I'm so happy to have you all on the show.

00:02:20.640 I'm a big fan.

00:02:21.300 Big fan of y'all.

00:02:22.060 Thank you for the music.

00:02:22.300 I'm really excited to learn about how to be straight from you.

00:02:25.380 From me?

00:02:26.180 Yeah.

00:02:26.340 You started with your nails, and we're going to work our way through the show.

00:02:28.660 I'm probably the worst person to learn from, to be quite honest with you, because

00:02:31.800 I viscerally hate men.

00:02:33.220 I think you're the new blueprint, honey.

00:02:34.080 Oh, period.

00:02:34.840 Period.

00:02:35.180 I love that for us.

00:02:36.120 Yeah.

00:02:36.480 I think, too, especially, I think if we combine our powers, we'd be unstoppable.

00:02:41.360 Wait, I want to know something.

00:02:43.220 Please do.

00:02:43.940 So, is there, like, a subgroup of men who respond to your content in, like, a...

00:02:51.580 Like, they're magnetized to it in a certain type of way?

00:02:55.520 Oh, I'm sure.

00:02:55.560 Like, in a...

00:02:56.340 Sex.

00:02:56.600 In a...

00:02:57.120 Jizz.

00:02:58.980 In a jizz.

00:02:59.560 In a jizz way.

00:03:00.520 In that kind of way.

00:03:02.440 I think there is, yeah, I think there is a subset of men that, like, the line between

00:03:07.460 love and hate is real thin.

00:03:09.420 Right, like, I know that, like, you're, you know, you're doing so well with this show,

00:03:14.240 but I'm also, like, that is a very lucrative, like, corner of the internet, is it not?

00:03:20.620 Like, as far as the time.

00:03:21.780 Men can't you to be mean to them?

00:03:23.480 Oh, yeah.

00:03:24.140 Oh, yeah.

00:03:24.600 That's what you mean.

00:03:25.780 Yeah.

00:03:26.380 Oh, I see what you mean.

00:03:27.660 Like, they like to be degraded.

00:03:29.060 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:29.620 I mean, when I was on Cameo, this is not a joke, that's why I stopped doing Cameo, is

00:03:34.640 I started getting requests from anonymous men who were like, can you tell me I'm, like,

00:03:39.460 a dirty little boy?

00:03:40.900 Right, right.

00:03:41.420 And I was like, well, not for $30.

00:03:43.240 Right, right, right.

00:03:44.180 Not for $30.

00:03:44.820 I did a Cameo, $30,000.

00:03:47.800 And I'll tell you what I did, turned it off.

00:03:50.020 As soon as I got that request, I said, oh, turn it off.

00:03:52.300 Goodbye.

00:03:52.780 Bye.

00:03:53.080 The $30, not worth it, I don't need it.

00:03:54.540 I don't understand, also, the young people who say stuff like that.

00:03:57.440 I did a Cameo thing for charity, and they were telling me to do the weirdest things to

00:04:02.780 them.

00:04:03.420 I just don't understand.

00:04:04.260 Yeah, they get real drunk with the power, don't they?

00:04:06.200 I mean, like, they wanted me to roast them for, like, random things, and I was like,

00:04:10.580 I, they would give me lists.

00:04:13.120 Okay, telling you what to make fun of them for.

00:04:15.080 Yeah, it didn't work well.

00:04:16.380 They're like, look at all these horrible things about me.

00:04:18.340 Can you just tell me about them?

00:04:19.580 They're sick.

00:04:21.320 For charity?

00:04:22.240 Yeah.

00:04:22.520 For charity.

00:04:23.420 Not for charity.

00:04:24.080 Sure.

00:04:24.580 Not for charity.

00:04:24.920 But I feel like your response was not, like, turn Cameo off.

00:04:27.660 It was more like, I will do it.

00:04:29.860 I just will make it more expensive.

00:04:31.880 Like.

00:04:32.000 Yeah.

00:04:32.660 I mean, if I was charging way more than that, we'd have to have a lot more zeros on the

00:04:36.780 end.

00:04:37.060 Right.

00:04:37.320 Then that's OnlyFans.

00:04:38.580 Yeah.

00:04:39.500 That's not Cameo.

00:04:40.820 At that point, I'm losing money doing it for Cameo.

00:04:42.820 You know what I mean?

00:04:43.860 Yeah.

00:04:44.520 But I do know if this ever takes a hard left, I'll just pivot to that.

00:04:48.260 Oh, yeah.

00:04:48.680 100%.

00:04:48.920 That's all I'm saying.

00:04:50.020 Backup plans.

00:04:50.720 Yeah.

00:04:51.000 Yeah, I got backup plans.

00:04:52.800 Wait, real quick.

00:04:53.680 What's everyone's signs?

00:04:55.140 Let's go.

00:04:56.040 Big three?

00:04:57.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:57.980 Obviously, everyone is a lesbian in here.

00:05:00.320 The big three of the big three?

00:05:01.940 My sun is a Pisces.

00:05:04.460 My moon is in Virgo, and my rising is Taurus.

00:05:07.600 Period.

00:05:08.800 I'm Capricorn sun, Gemini rising, Pisces moon.

00:05:13.260 Okay.

00:05:14.140 I'm Capricorn sun, Taurus rising, like Joe, and a Gemini moon.

00:05:18.820 We have a lot of.

00:05:19.340 We have a lot of overlap.

00:05:20.740 There's a lot going on.

00:05:21.640 Yeah.

00:05:21.860 We have a lot of.

00:05:22.940 Yeah, we each overlap with each other.

00:05:24.480 A lot of water and earth.

00:05:25.500 Yeah.

00:05:25.760 What about you?

00:05:26.800 I'm a Virgo sun.

00:05:28.300 Let's go.

00:05:28.800 That's why you get shit done.

00:05:29.800 Cancer moon.

00:05:30.520 Oh, we're all come out.

00:05:31.560 Sagittarius rising.

00:05:32.320 Oh, we're compatible.

00:05:33.800 Period.

00:05:34.220 Wow.

00:05:34.500 Sagittarius rising.

00:05:34.780 And in love.

00:05:35.380 Yeah, absolutely.

00:05:36.280 Sorry.

00:05:36.740 That's the real announcement.

00:05:37.940 Jizz.

00:05:38.860 Jizz.

00:05:39.480 Jizz.

00:05:41.740 You're coming out again.

00:05:42.720 I'm coming out again.

00:05:43.360 Yeah, I need a jizz button.

00:05:46.140 Jizz.

00:05:46.940 That's from Tim Robinson.

00:05:48.260 Do you need it?

00:05:49.200 I mean, technically speaking, we all have jizz buttons, technically speaking.

00:05:53.580 I do.

00:05:53.840 Whoa.

00:05:55.100 They're all different.

00:05:56.140 I'm announcing new virgin after all that jizz.

00:05:58.960 Oh, my God.

00:05:59.580 A born again virgin.

00:06:00.460 You brought it up.

00:06:00.960 I was imagining, like, I want, like, a hard edit.

00:06:04.180 You want the easy button.

00:06:05.260 You want, like, that was easy.

00:06:07.240 I was talking a literal button.

00:06:09.040 Yeah.

00:06:09.480 It's all right.

00:06:09.860 We'll just say it out loud for you until you get that.

00:06:12.820 Well, back to the topic at hand, which is y'all being amazing and so happy to be here.

00:06:17.580 What was the topic?

00:06:18.540 For anyone that, oh, I haven't even said it yet.

00:06:21.100 I'm like, jizz.

00:06:22.100 So have you brought it up?

00:06:24.380 For everyone who doesn't know, obviously, y'all are a very successful, amazing band.

00:06:28.140 So successful.

00:06:28.720 Thank you for creating our success.

00:06:30.300 Of course.

00:06:31.320 I'm going to, I'll brag about your success if y'all won't.

00:06:34.640 But I am curious, for everyone who doesn't know, how did you guys become a band?

00:06:38.120 Well, we decided we needed to be so successful.

00:06:40.720 We're like, damn, look at these other sexy-ass motherfuckers.

00:06:42.920 I bet we could make some money.

00:06:45.180 All this talent's going to waste.

00:06:46.980 No, we were, I was busted when we met.

00:06:49.440 Yeah, I was busted as well.

00:06:51.300 I go through busted ways still.

00:06:53.100 I was busted, don't lie.

00:06:53.900 Yeah, now you're busting out of the seams as a sexy, sexy guy.

00:06:58.140 I bloomed.

00:06:59.420 Yeah, it blossomed.

00:07:00.700 No, we met, we met in college.

00:07:02.280 We all had like some overlapping classes.

00:07:04.640 They were both music majors, so they had classes together.

00:07:06.940 And we, we had overlap in, in our other degree of study.

00:07:11.300 And yeah, we met and just kind of started hanging out.

00:07:13.940 And we went to USC, which is like a pretty, I don't know, there's like a pretty homogenous

00:07:18.280 kind of crowd of like frat boys and sorority girls.

00:07:22.120 Said with love and respect.

00:07:23.680 Yeah.

00:07:23.880 Or not.

00:07:24.640 So much love and respect.

00:07:26.360 Said, said with at least respect.

00:07:28.680 Said.

00:07:29.380 With tolerance.

00:07:30.440 Yeah, said with tolerance.

00:07:31.540 Yeah, with tolerance.

00:07:32.080 Said with tolerance.

00:07:33.020 Yeah.

00:07:33.100 But yeah, so we were, we were drawn to one another as you are when you're kind of.

00:07:39.060 Magnetic.

00:07:39.840 Yeah.

00:07:40.280 Okay.

00:07:40.980 When you're magnetically gay.

00:07:42.760 Yeah.

00:07:43.260 But Naomi and I dated in the beginning and then like before we had a band.

00:07:48.160 Yeah.

00:07:48.320 And then they became close.

00:07:49.960 Yeah.

00:07:50.220 And wanted to play music together.

00:07:52.940 And I said, me as well.

00:07:56.680 I would like to join as well.

00:07:58.160 I would be coming to that as well.

00:07:59.520 Inclusion.

00:08:00.680 Yeah.

00:08:00.980 And I'll be bringing my MIDI keyboard to the gym session.

00:08:04.540 I mean, it worked.

00:08:05.500 Yeah.

00:08:05.980 It was pretty awesome, honestly.

00:08:07.440 Yeah.

00:08:08.080 It was very synergetic.

00:08:09.500 It feels like it was meant to happen.

00:08:10.840 We made a song and I swear to God, both going back to signs, both of them being Capricorns,

00:08:16.240 as soon as we made the first thing that we did, we never stopped working.

00:08:19.600 Yeah.

00:08:20.160 We were like, this is good.

00:08:21.360 We will make this our whole lives.

00:08:22.580 There's something.

00:08:23.360 There's something here cooking.

00:08:25.500 But we've had a really, I mean, that was like 10 years ago.

00:08:27.980 Yeah.

00:08:28.640 It's even more.

00:08:29.780 It's been a really long time that we've been in a band together.

00:08:30.660 How old are y'all?

00:08:31.420 In a band together.

00:08:31.980 Oldest.

00:08:32.540 Naomi and I are 31.

00:08:33.700 I'm 30.

00:08:34.320 And Joe is 30.

00:08:34.800 How old are you?

00:08:34.960 How old are you?

00:08:35.540 I'm 28.

00:08:36.280 Going to be 29.

00:08:37.000 Wow.

00:08:37.640 All three of you look younger than me.

00:08:39.280 So that's a little rude.

00:08:40.120 It's all.

00:08:40.400 It's all.

00:08:40.920 Y'all come to my show and look younger than me.

00:08:42.480 That's fucked up.

00:08:43.060 Yeah.

00:08:43.240 We're now dedicating our lives to Botox and red light therapy and anything we can do.

00:08:48.960 Wait, but something's scary.

00:08:49.180 I'm scared.

00:08:50.100 Oh, God.

00:08:50.740 I'm scared.

00:08:51.580 Something's scary.

00:08:52.860 Wait, really quickly.

00:08:54.040 Something's scary.

00:08:55.100 Yeah.

00:08:55.260 Um, okay.

00:08:56.840 Why'd that hit?

00:08:57.440 So I get Botox and I get Botox you get on the upper half of your face.

00:09:02.320 Not always.

00:09:02.780 You don't know.

00:09:03.300 Not always.

00:09:03.900 That's not true at all.

00:09:05.100 Is it not true?

00:09:05.780 No, you could get Botox.

00:09:06.860 You don't know what it's like.

00:09:08.380 That's that Virgo moon coming out.

00:09:09.340 No, my girlfriend and I will go.

00:09:11.480 We watch Love Island.

00:09:12.680 You don't know what it's like.

00:09:13.980 We'll watch Love Island and I'll have her tell me what everybody got done because she can

00:09:18.120 know.

00:09:18.480 You can get Botox here.

00:09:19.980 You can get Botox.

00:09:20.220 That's where I need it.

00:09:21.180 Yeah, you can get it everywhere.

00:09:22.440 You can get it everywhere.

00:09:23.340 Okay.

00:09:23.500 So I thought, this is what I thought and I don't, I actually don't want to be talking

00:09:28.660 about this, but I can't stop myself.

00:09:29.720 I was so curious why you started talking.

00:09:32.460 Yeah, I'm curious too.

00:09:33.620 I'm locked in.

00:09:34.620 Botox reveal too.

00:09:35.740 Okay.

00:09:35.900 We have a podcast called chaotic and we, sorry, I'll stop lumping you in.

00:09:40.700 Yeah.

00:09:41.440 Um, and I think like I've been trained on that podcast of like oversharing.

00:09:45.840 Well, we just don't.

00:09:46.800 Yeah.

00:09:47.040 Oversharing one.

00:09:47.920 Yeah.

00:09:48.340 But two, like we don't have any structure like really for the pod.

00:09:52.840 So just to like make sure that we have a podcast, it's like, I'm saying whatever comes to my

00:09:58.540 mind.

00:09:59.060 Totally.

00:09:59.700 Like, and going into, yeah.

00:10:01.520 I'm cool with that.

00:10:02.380 Um, so Botox on the lower half of your face.

00:10:05.060 So I thought that, I thought this was what it was.

00:10:08.920 You get Botox on the top of your face.

00:10:11.480 Botox.

00:10:11.960 Botox.

00:10:12.540 I heard it too.

00:10:13.180 Yeah.

00:10:13.760 Chicago.

00:10:14.400 Because like those are the muscles that if you're moving them like throughout your life,

00:10:19.320 it will, it will crease.

00:10:20.660 And that's what those wrinkles are.

00:10:22.020 Gotcha.

00:10:22.380 But then on the lower half of your face, it's like the lower half of your face sags and that's

00:10:27.460 what those wrinkles are.

00:10:28.560 Gotcha.

00:10:28.960 And, oh my God.

00:10:30.820 So I think this is true.

00:10:33.180 Yeah.

00:10:33.520 I'm just, oh my God.

00:10:34.360 I'm just like, I don't even know where you're going.

00:10:36.640 Okay.

00:10:36.880 But I'm locked in.

00:10:37.760 So I'm listening.

00:10:38.740 I saw a video on TikTok recently where this guy was like mansplaining to a girl about how

00:10:45.840 you shouldn't get Botox like all on this part of your face because you're freezing your

00:10:52.280 facial expressions, but your, but your face needs to compensate with that.

00:10:56.900 So it starts like using the other muscles more.

00:11:01.340 Okay.

00:11:01.640 So they sag faster.

00:11:03.140 I don't know.

00:11:03.760 Like, yeah, kind of.

00:11:04.760 Yeah.

00:11:04.960 It's like, you're going to end up with getting wrinkles faster in the other part of your face.

00:11:09.720 I need a scientist.

00:11:11.620 Just to wrap this up as fast as possible.

00:11:16.100 If that was going, but like, yeah, that would make sense.

00:11:18.380 I think the main, the, what, what people say to do rather than do any of that shit down

00:11:24.900 here is like, do like muscle, like, um, like to, you like exercise your face.

00:11:30.200 Like you have some muscles in your face that you don't exercise.

00:11:33.000 That's what the new face does.

00:11:34.340 You just squash off.

00:11:35.300 Yeah.

00:11:35.560 But the new, the new face, no, the new face, that's what it does.

00:11:39.420 That's what the microcurrent does.

00:11:41.400 That's why people use it.

00:11:42.980 Okay.

00:11:43.580 Well, anyway, thanks for saying.

00:11:45.060 Yeah, I mean, I snitching on all of it.

00:11:49.440 I'm really sorry.

00:11:50.800 I've never had, I've never had any Botox or anything, but I'll keep that in mind.

00:11:53.080 Yeah.

00:11:53.180 If you want to come, if I ever do, we got gifted.

00:11:56.060 Like Katie, Katie and I got gifted.

00:11:58.320 I haven't used it from a gifting thing.

00:12:00.420 Oh yeah.

00:12:00.960 She's like, I just need to remind you really quickly.

00:12:02.120 I have not used what you currently said you use.

00:12:05.000 Yeah.

00:12:05.180 Just like, I don't need it, but they'll come to your house and do Botox.

00:12:08.880 So if you want to come over and have some strangers, we have a Botox, Botox, Botox

00:12:13.860 party.

00:12:15.480 That's very neat.

00:12:16.300 If I told someone, can you imagine if I was telling someone, I'm going to get Botox at

00:12:20.440 Luna's house tomorrow.

00:12:22.700 That's the most insane sentence.

00:12:24.080 I feel like that's like normal for LA.

00:12:25.800 Probably.

00:12:26.320 I've just gotten used to, the city is so fucking weird.

00:12:29.100 I know.

00:12:29.500 Are you guys from LA?

00:12:30.700 I am.

00:12:31.500 I'm from Chicago.

00:12:32.700 Okay.

00:12:33.160 I'm from San Diego.

00:12:34.000 So like a more busted version of LA.

00:12:36.220 Where in San Diego are you from?

00:12:37.280 Normal Heights.

00:12:38.180 Okay.

00:12:38.440 Period.

00:12:38.820 What about you?

00:12:39.420 My family's from Mira Mesa.

00:12:40.960 Oh, nice.

00:12:41.500 Yeah.

00:12:41.920 Love, love, love.

00:12:42.860 Yeah.

00:12:43.200 Don't know anything about LA.

00:12:44.120 Sorry.

00:12:44.460 Don't know anything.

00:12:44.800 Are you, you're not from Mira Mesa.

00:12:47.180 Where'd you go?

00:12:47.560 No, I'm from Corona, California.

00:12:49.360 Okay, cool.

00:12:49.880 Yeah.

00:12:50.020 Like Riverside.

00:12:50.580 So you're still SoCal.

00:12:53.200 Yeah.

00:12:53.500 Yeah.

00:12:53.680 Yeah.

00:12:54.000 SoCal live.

00:12:54.780 Sorry.

00:12:54.900 I like it.

00:12:55.640 That's the truth.

00:12:56.320 Yeah.

00:12:56.620 You gave me one of those.

00:12:57.740 Yeah.

00:12:57.860 Yeah.

00:13:00.460 SoCal.

00:13:01.620 You're like, mmm, Chaka.

00:13:05.280 Mmm, Chaka.

00:13:06.440 Did you say that?

00:13:07.360 Yeah.

00:13:07.500 It's really quiet.

00:13:08.620 That's so funny.

00:13:10.280 I love it.

00:13:10.860 Did you actually say that?

00:13:12.200 It was out loud?

00:13:13.120 Chaka gremlin.

00:13:13.860 I say Chaka all the time.

00:13:16.300 I like when you say Chaka about something sad that's happening.

00:13:18.720 Oh, yeah.

00:13:18.900 Someone will say something and I'll say, that's a very Juna-ism.

00:13:21.920 Oh, Chaka.

00:13:22.500 Oh, something really fucked up happened in Chaka.

00:13:24.680 Chaka.

00:13:25.120 Chaka.

00:13:25.680 Someone I knew once told me, whenever it was awkward, they would be like, cringe.

00:13:30.080 Just like really loud out loud.

00:13:31.660 Oh, no.

00:13:31.900 If it was sad or awkward, they'd be like, fucking cringe.

00:13:34.920 Cringe.

00:13:35.200 How old was that person?

00:13:37.260 Older than me.

00:13:38.080 Oh, really?

00:13:38.880 This seems Gen Z.

00:13:40.020 This seems very Gen Z.

00:13:41.560 Does it?

00:13:42.320 Or wait, we're, y'all are.

00:13:43.720 We're all zillennials here.

00:13:44.740 Yeah.

00:13:45.320 Yeah.

00:13:45.540 Every time I say millennial, every time I say millennial, they're like, because I don't

00:13:51.520 know if they think I'm 100 or if they think I'm like 19 online.

00:13:55.140 I think because you're successful online, people think you're Gen Z.

00:13:58.860 I know.

00:13:59.400 It's a bummer.

00:13:59.960 We were talking to Trixie.

00:14:00.980 Trixie was, Trixie's older than us.

00:14:02.400 She's 100.

00:14:03.160 Yeah.

00:14:04.440 She's so much older than me.

00:14:05.780 Like way older than me.

00:14:06.780 Happy birthday, mama.

00:14:07.320 Yeah.

00:14:07.520 Happy birthday, mama.

00:14:09.340 Yeah.

00:14:09.800 But she was saying that she gets told that she's Gen Z, even though it's like, obviously

00:14:15.500 millennial.

00:14:16.660 She's Gen 1.

00:14:17.900 Yeah.

00:14:18.440 She's Gen A.

00:14:19.200 She has the energy.

00:14:20.440 Like Gen Z claims her, I feel like.

00:14:23.880 Yeah.

00:14:24.360 And they leave me out in the fucking streets, apparently.

00:14:27.700 Yeah.

00:14:28.200 The Gen Z doesn't want to claim us in the sense that they do claim us.

00:14:31.720 No, but they think that they like to make fun of us because we are millennials.

00:14:35.500 They make fun of our TikToks.

00:14:37.940 Yeah.

00:14:38.460 Yeah.

00:14:38.780 I mean, we have geriatric TikToks.

00:14:41.460 That's fun and fine.

00:14:42.280 Did you know that when you're doing like a front face day?

00:14:45.880 I'm doing it again.

00:14:47.000 When you're doing a front facing video.

00:14:48.980 Yeah.

00:14:49.420 And you zoom in like on your face.

00:14:52.140 That's called the millennial zoom.

00:14:55.020 I think so.

00:14:55.900 I know the millennial pause.

00:14:57.240 The pause.

00:14:57.540 When you press record and it takes you a couple seconds.

00:14:59.500 Yeah.

00:15:00.260 Because you're used to doing it on a Nikon.

00:15:03.260 Yeah.

00:15:03.880 On a rotary phone.

00:15:05.260 I can't take a second for it to start recording.

00:15:06.140 What do they want?

00:15:07.180 What do they want?

00:15:09.360 Whenever I've had a millennial pause on accident, I'll literally cut it out because I don't want

00:15:13.080 to hear that.

00:15:13.700 I'll literally edit it out.

00:15:14.740 I'll go back and I'll cut out the part where I pause for a second.

00:15:17.640 I don't care enough.

00:15:18.740 It's just like I've accepted my role as like MILF to the children.

00:15:23.560 Whoa.

00:15:23.580 Fuck.

00:15:24.580 That is what they call me.

00:15:25.980 Like that's the main thing.

00:15:26.920 Do they really call you MILF?

00:15:27.500 It's because of her glasses.

00:15:28.020 That is the main thing they call me.

00:15:29.220 That's fantastic.

00:15:29.740 It has glasses is what it is.

00:15:31.180 It is.

00:15:31.460 It is.

00:15:32.060 It's big enough jizz.

00:15:33.200 That's great.

00:15:35.960 Yeah.

00:15:36.480 I don't care.

00:15:37.220 Yeah.

00:15:37.440 They it's very confusing for me because online I'll when I obviously tell men to suck my wiener,

00:15:43.500 they literally love it.

00:15:44.700 They'll laugh and they'll joke and sometimes I'll say how old I am and they're like, oh,

00:15:47.820 I thought you were younger than that.

00:15:49.260 And then when I on this show, what I've told people like sometimes they think I'm like 2021

00:15:53.320 they'll be like, you don't look anywhere near 20.

00:15:57.640 First of all, relax.

00:15:58.880 First of all, take it down a notch.

00:16:00.460 Second of all, what's that supposed to mean?

00:16:02.480 Like, I don't care about getting old, though.

00:16:04.380 I really don't.

00:16:05.240 Getting old is chill, but it's like you guys need to take that hate out of your hearts.

00:16:07.940 But you don't get to talk about that.

00:16:09.820 Only I get to laugh about that.

00:16:11.600 I mean, I want I just want to be beautiful and I totally, but also there's nothing wrong

00:16:17.800 with getting old, but you know, the most beautiful population is older women.

00:16:22.400 That's a fact.

00:16:23.560 Yeah.

00:16:26.100 To all you.

00:16:26.920 Shout out to all the baddies.

00:16:28.040 Older women.

00:16:29.620 Wherever you are.

00:16:30.460 Anyone.

00:16:30.880 Yeah.

00:16:31.080 Shout out to all the older women.

00:16:31.580 You're giving one of these.

00:16:32.440 AKA over 20.

00:16:33.580 Yeah.

00:16:34.080 Like with the freaking Gen Z terrorists thing.

00:16:38.560 I mean, we obviously we feel it like in a bone interesting way because we are pop musicians

00:16:44.340 and I feel like historically you like age out of pop music after like.

00:16:49.320 You're fossilized at 25.

00:16:50.520 We're barely in the door and we're ready to get kicked out.

00:16:53.540 Yeah.

00:16:54.380 Right.

00:16:55.180 You all look a lot younger than you are though.

00:16:57.340 Thank you.

00:16:57.920 Thank you so much.

00:16:59.040 You have that working for you.

00:16:59.840 I also do feel like there are like some trailblazers that have like, I think it's shifting a little

00:17:07.380 bit.

00:17:07.820 Yeah.

00:17:08.280 I think so.

00:17:09.040 People don't care as much.

00:17:10.180 As long as you're sexy.

00:17:10.840 And there's always really been exceptions.

00:17:12.440 And you're like, check.

00:17:13.400 As long as you're sexy.

00:17:14.600 Yeah.

00:17:15.180 Yeah.

00:17:15.300 I just want to be beautiful.

00:17:17.820 Such an awesome quote.

00:17:19.220 I think we do put pressure on ourselves to like.

00:17:21.400 Look good.

00:17:22.180 Yeah.

00:17:22.520 Yeah.

00:17:22.860 Totally.

00:17:23.300 Especially as entertainers.

00:17:24.460 Yeah.

00:17:24.700 Yeah.

00:17:25.160 It's just true.

00:17:25.840 Do you ever feel like you have to, you're expected to like somehow keep getting hotter

00:17:28.900 and it's like.

00:17:30.040 How do you do it?

00:17:30.680 I only have what I have.

00:17:32.380 I only.

00:17:32.820 Yeah.

00:17:33.040 At the end of the day.

00:17:34.260 Yeah.

00:17:34.520 I mean, thankfully mine doesn't really work off that.

00:17:37.840 Mine works off me being really fucking mean to men.

00:17:41.100 It's funny because one time I got a comment on one of my videos and they were like, oh,

00:17:44.560 see, this is what happens when you like, you like pump up women who think, who get famous

00:17:49.040 for being good looking.

00:17:50.160 I was like, oh, babe, you're on the wrong fucking profile.

00:17:52.460 That is not why I got big.

00:17:53.620 Thank you.

00:17:53.740 Honestly.

00:17:54.440 But thank you so much.

00:17:55.640 I was like, my looks were the last thing on the list that made me famous on TikTok,

00:18:00.120 bitch.

00:18:00.800 I was like, I got big on there for being a terrorist.

00:18:03.560 Yeah.

00:18:03.740 Yeah.

00:18:04.660 Shout out.

00:18:05.540 And emotional terrorists on there.

00:18:06.860 That's what I've been doing.

00:18:07.540 How did it start?

00:18:08.460 Does everyone already know this?

00:18:09.860 Who watches this?

00:18:10.340 This is not our podcast.

00:18:12.200 Yeah.

00:18:12.300 It's all right.

00:18:12.840 This is my show.

00:18:13.740 So if I want to talk about me, I'm going to talk about me.

00:18:15.780 Yeah.

00:18:16.000 I'm just kidding.

00:18:17.460 I got, I actually started by, I made, I was making silly videos.

00:18:22.440 It was mostly like story times.

00:18:23.780 I was just talking about random stupid shit that happened to me because the, honestly, the

00:18:27.460 weirdest things happen to me all the time, even now in this job.

00:18:31.440 And I made one video where I stitched a girl who said like, what are some weirdly specific

00:18:37.700 red flags and men that you have?

00:18:39.500 And so I had a whole list and they were very specific.

00:18:42.420 Like I said, like if Wolf of Wall Street's your favorite movie, wear a backwards hat in

00:18:47.080 the pool, loyalty tattooed on the arm, any sort of clock tattooed on you anywhere.

00:18:53.460 Damn.

00:18:53.980 If you get it, you get it.

00:18:54.920 So I was like, those are like the worst men in the world.

00:18:56.740 And then that was my first video to go super viral.

00:18:58.960 And that's when I had a bunch of, a bunch of like people who date men being like, this

00:19:03.060 is so true.

00:19:03.860 This is so true.

00:19:04.500 That's so funny.

00:19:05.060 And then a whole lot of men who fucking hated that video.

00:19:09.440 A lot of men with, all the, all the women tattooed men.

00:19:11.960 Men with, men with a lion's face tattooed on their fist.

00:19:14.340 Exactly.

00:19:14.700 Oh my God.

00:19:15.540 Yeah.

00:19:16.160 Like only, I love my mom.

00:19:17.340 Only God can judge me.

00:19:18.700 You know what I mean?

00:19:19.400 One of those.

00:19:20.140 I love that.

00:19:20.940 I actually love that as a tattoo.

00:19:22.600 That one I'm going to stick up for.

00:19:25.420 Girl, that one I, I can defend as well.

00:19:27.900 A man of God?

00:19:28.840 I'm here for it.

00:19:30.420 What?

00:19:30.840 An honorable man of the Lord?

00:19:31.980 An honorable man of the Lord?

00:19:33.280 You and me both.

00:19:34.100 I am an honorable man of the Lord.

00:19:36.800 Me personally.

00:19:37.660 It's only your laugh.

00:19:38.020 Your laugh is just fucking delightful.

00:19:39.860 Oh, thank you.

00:19:40.900 I, I've had a few people tell me, they're like, the laugh is so fake.

00:19:44.280 And I was like, well, I'm Samoan, so I'm Polynesian.

00:19:47.120 I'm sure there's quite a few that go to USC.

00:19:49.740 Someone, they're all athletes, but I, they're all on the football team.

00:19:53.640 But I, uh, have told people before, it's not exclusive to me at all.

00:19:57.580 Like Samoan people, Samoan people laugh just like me.

00:20:00.220 Everyone does.

00:20:00.960 Like my sister laughs just like me.

00:20:02.300 My mom.

00:20:02.900 That's what's up.

00:20:03.560 Everybody, it's like a cackle.

00:20:05.180 It's not really a laugh.

00:20:06.420 Oh my gosh.

00:20:07.260 My laugh has gotten horrible.

00:20:08.140 I want to go to dinner with your family.

00:20:09.220 Well, it's, it works against me in a lot of ways because when I, when it's really not

00:20:13.980 funny, um, you can tell because my laugh is real customer service laugh.

00:20:17.980 Right.

00:20:18.420 Right, right, right, right.

00:20:19.660 Yeah.

00:20:20.460 Same.

00:20:21.160 Love that.

00:20:21.820 Oh, that's so great.

00:20:23.000 It's always been the same laugh though.

00:20:24.880 I feel like my laugh changes every couple of years.

00:20:27.320 Mine does too.

00:20:28.080 If I could have changed it when I was a kid, I would have, because I felt like it was obnoxious,

00:20:31.520 which it is, but I, now I'm like, now re-pays my bills.

00:20:35.000 Re-pays my bills.

00:20:35.020 Re-pays the benefits.

00:20:35.560 Yeah.

00:20:35.920 Yeah.

00:20:36.240 Fuck it.

00:20:36.900 Now it pays my bills.

00:20:37.820 So it works out.

00:20:38.240 If that isn't, if that isn't the story of existence, I don't, I don't know what is.

00:20:42.620 That's kind of gross.

00:20:43.420 So true.

00:20:43.980 Yeah.

00:20:44.160 It's so true.

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00:21:44.880 I am curious to know for y'all, like, how did you, like, what was your first moment when

00:21:50.460 you, y'all were like, as a band and coming up in the business, where you're like, I think

00:21:54.760 this is like, actually, like, working.

00:21:56.800 I think it's like, turning into a thing.

00:21:58.080 I feel like it only happens, like, maybe one time when you sell out, like, a three or

00:22:04.000 a 400 cap room, and you're like, okay, everyone needs to start talking to me real different.

00:22:09.720 Because I'm pretty.

00:22:11.280 I'm actually hot shit.

00:22:12.000 I'm a huge deal.

00:22:13.280 Wait, what, what?

00:22:14.220 Huge fucking deal.

00:22:15.200 Name the moment.

00:22:16.000 Name the moment.

00:22:17.140 I don't know.

00:22:17.560 I feel like it's like, maybe, yeah, like, when we played the Echo or something, where it's

00:22:20.600 just like, holy shit, this is like an amount of people that give a shit about us, and they

00:22:25.280 all, but, you know, it doesn't matter that half of them went to our school or whatever.

00:22:28.980 That's irrelevant to the story.

00:22:30.600 Yeah.

00:22:30.960 But then, but then every moment after that, for real, just becomes kind of like, oh, I'm

00:22:34.920 not where I, you, you, you start thinking, what's your problem with me?

00:22:40.080 From then on, it's pretty much, you're just funny.

00:22:42.300 You're just funny.

00:22:43.240 You're like, can I have the room, please?

00:22:44.900 No, I'm, I'm, I'm interpreting it.

00:22:46.660 From then on, it's pretty much, I'm, I'm not good enough.

00:22:48.900 Well, kind of.

00:22:49.860 Yeah.

00:22:50.940 Legit.

00:22:51.300 Or sometimes you can get, like.

00:22:52.660 Am I wrong?

00:22:53.060 You can get surprised, where it's like, you can still feel the feeling, where it's like,

00:22:56.040 is someone going to come to the show, and you're still surprised that people come to

00:22:59.460 the show?

00:22:59.620 That people show up.

00:23:00.120 And they're like.

00:23:00.480 You become surprised.

00:23:01.300 Yeah, you do.

00:23:01.960 You never feel like you make it.

00:23:02.980 You become jaded and surprised.

00:23:04.100 I think it's both.

00:23:05.060 Yeah.

00:23:05.360 It's just like, as they level up, you start getting more and more like, oh my God.

00:23:08.620 Yeah.

00:23:08.980 Like, people are still fucking with me.

00:23:10.360 That's crazy.

00:23:11.000 Yeah.

00:23:11.320 Totally.

00:23:12.320 You guys were at Coachella last year, too, right?

00:23:14.320 Yeah.

00:23:15.020 Shaka.

00:23:15.660 That was a, that was a big moment.

00:23:17.020 That was when we were like, well, people come.

00:23:19.120 I was going to say.

00:23:19.940 Coachella was my festival, also, like, growing up here.

00:23:22.760 So, I was really, I was very excited.

00:23:25.120 That was the most stressful thing ever.

00:23:28.400 Yeah.

00:23:28.560 Yeah.

00:23:28.900 I mean, like, probably ever.

00:23:30.560 It was hard.

00:23:31.460 It was so stressful.

00:23:32.180 It's like, we're, we're like, pessimistic lesbians.

00:23:35.400 So, in the beginning, it's like.

00:23:37.420 Get that.

00:23:38.120 The, like, early on, like, when we were still in college, and we were trying to, we knew

00:23:43.080 that we had a certain amount of time, like, where we needed to get signed and, like,

00:23:46.840 get a check from somebody in order for us all to be able to stay in LA and, like,

00:23:50.140 keep working on stuff, and, like, at the time, it was, like, 2014, 2015, so it actually

00:23:58.740 mattered a lot if you got posted on these things called music blogs, and, um, and I

00:24:05.760 remember, like, feeling, like, when we got posted on The Fader.

00:24:09.200 Was it The Fader?

00:24:09.740 Yeah, that was a big deal.

00:24:10.580 That was when I felt like we're going to be able to be a band, and, like, it was really,

00:24:14.240 really high off of it.

00:24:15.380 Yeah.

00:24:15.700 And I do agree that it's, like, after you, like, get more and more success, um, and we've

00:24:21.740 talked to other musicians about this, too, it's, like, there is kind of diminishing returns

00:24:25.800 in terms of, like, the chemical experience inside of your body.

00:24:29.040 Yeah, totally.

00:24:29.920 Other than fear.

00:24:31.500 Yeah.

00:24:32.420 Yeah.

00:24:33.260 Yeah, but, I mean, but, but you still have, like, I would say that in the last album cycle,

00:24:42.500 we had a lot of moments that I really wasn't expecting.

00:24:45.880 We, in a way, we had kind of made peace of, like, maybe, we had, like, plateaued of, like,

00:24:51.440 maybe we're gonna get, stay at this level as a band, and, um, like, be able to make it

00:25:00.100 work for, I don't know.

00:25:02.100 However long you can.

00:25:02.980 Yeah, however long we can.

00:25:04.440 Um, but, yeah, getting to do Coachella last year and having it be, like, go the way it did,

00:25:09.400 and then, like, getting on the Taylor tour, that was just, like.

00:25:11.720 I was gonna say.

00:25:12.460 I was gonna bring that up next.

00:25:13.520 That's crazy.

00:25:14.220 Yeah, that, that was crazy.

00:25:15.660 Yeah.

00:25:16.060 And we know our, our good friend and mortal enemy, Caleb, went and saw y'all at Kansas

00:25:20.620 City.

00:25:20.900 Kansas City.

00:25:21.460 Yeah.

00:25:21.980 Which is exciting.

00:25:22.900 That was really fun and cool.

00:25:24.120 And he, he told me, he's like, my goal is to make everybody gay when I go there.

00:25:27.720 That's my goal.

00:25:28.400 I was like, in the stadium.

00:25:30.220 Yeah.

00:25:30.560 In the stadium.

00:25:32.040 Okay.

00:25:32.480 It's a tall order.

00:25:33.520 Yeah.

00:25:34.100 I believe you.

00:25:34.520 Good luck.

00:25:35.200 Yeah.

00:25:35.380 I wish you luck.

00:25:36.100 Yeah.

00:25:36.660 I'm, I'm so, uh, like, how, well, first of all, how was Coachella?

00:25:40.000 Like, that was, was that your guys' first Coachella?

00:25:42.680 Yeah.

00:25:42.820 That was our first Coachella.

00:25:44.420 It, it, you know, we did, I mean, like, how on, like, it, it was so stressful leading

00:25:50.320 up because we were also making a music video and putting out a single and we had, like,

00:25:54.260 a month to finish, like, a song.

00:25:55.880 Oh, yeah.

00:25:56.080 And also, like, we, we, you know, a lot of bands will have, like, um, musical directors

00:26:01.160 and stuff like that.

00:26:01.960 We, we do everything ourselves.

00:26:03.320 In-house?

00:26:03.800 Yeah.

00:26:04.100 Really?

00:26:04.360 It was just, like, we're, yeah, we're just too anal, you know?

00:26:06.940 Yeah.

00:26:07.180 And also, we're, like, we're musically literate amongst ourselves enough to be able to, like,

00:26:12.120 Like, y'all don't need outside help.

00:26:13.820 We just kind of, yeah.

00:26:14.840 I mean, the, the, the program at our university that they went to kind of, like, prepares

00:26:19.520 you for doing this type of shit in a way.

00:26:21.660 Yeah, that's cool.

00:26:22.580 So, like, and we have, you know, our bass player and our, our drummer are both, like,

00:26:27.800 incredibly musically gifted.

00:26:29.580 So, we can kind of normally just, like, work things out between all of us.

00:26:33.500 But, yeah.

00:26:33.960 That's crazy.

00:26:34.600 It was stressful.

00:26:35.220 I'll do that in-house.

00:26:35.680 We do, we do everything.

00:26:37.160 We do, we do it all.

00:26:38.680 I mean, for the most part.

00:26:40.760 And, yeah.

00:26:41.380 I think the, the stressful thing about Coachella is, like, the scale of it.

00:26:45.620 Yeah.

00:26:45.700 And also knowing.

00:26:46.960 It's just one of those moments that, you know, you're like, oh, people will see this.

00:26:53.340 You know, it's not just a show where you can be like, that was, like, a fine show.

00:26:57.660 But, if, you know, whatever, we have another one tonight or, you know, tomorrow or whatever.

00:27:01.840 Yeah.

00:27:02.180 It's just one of those things where it's, like, this is important.

00:27:04.240 It matters.

00:27:05.200 And it's, like.

00:27:07.240 Huge.

00:27:07.780 Yeah.

00:27:08.180 Just, like, it's just a massive kind of situation.

00:27:12.620 Yeah.

00:27:12.720 So, I think there was stress for us.

00:27:14.800 Also, leading up, we were using, like, this is, this is very, like, behind the music minutia,

00:27:20.000 so I'll be fast, but we were using, like, you know, visuals on an LED screen for the

00:27:25.860 first time that were, like, synced to our music in a way.

00:27:29.960 Normally, we just had, like, you know, a static logo or a little animatic thing that.

00:27:34.500 Yeah, before.

00:27:34.880 Yeah, but, like, we had, like, a full thing planned and, like, a show flow and we had props

00:27:40.260 and shit and, like, that was, I mean, it was just insane.

00:27:43.760 We were just getting no sleep and, you know, busting our asses, but it was, like, as always,

00:27:50.580 like, huge things never go, like, exactly how you expect them to, but we did have, like,

00:27:56.420 good shows.

00:27:57.180 Yeah.

00:27:57.280 We played really well and we were all proud of ourselves, so.

00:28:00.720 Yeah.

00:28:01.080 In the end, like, all of our years of not being, this sounds so stupid, all of our years not

00:28:06.680 being as successful as we are now, we're all preparation, because, like, we've been playing

00:28:11.080 together as a band for, like, 10 years, so it's, like.

00:28:13.060 Like, even if something isn't going exactly right on stage, it's, like, we're going to

00:28:16.900 work it.

00:28:17.520 Like, you know what I mean?

00:28:18.020 We're going to.

00:28:18.500 Oh, yeah.

00:28:19.100 Well, y'all's chemistry is most important.

00:28:21.340 Like, if y'all are vibing, that's all that really matters.

00:28:23.220 Yeah, exactly.

00:28:23.920 Outside stuff is nice to have, but as long as the three of y'all are good.

00:28:27.580 Yeah, totally.

00:28:28.160 Then you know the show's going to go well, regardless.

00:28:30.300 Yes.

00:28:30.800 That's so great with Coachella.

00:28:31.980 That's awesome.

00:28:32.740 Yeah.

00:28:32.940 I was there, too.

00:28:33.760 You were?

00:28:34.360 Yeah.

00:28:35.060 Cool.

00:28:35.400 I was also performing.

00:28:36.420 Apparently, y'all missed my set.

00:28:38.880 You're here.

00:28:39.960 I'm really sorry.

00:28:41.000 That was a one-woman show up there.

00:28:42.340 I have no musical talent at all.

00:28:43.860 What the fuck?

00:28:44.640 I was just a dickhead in the crowd.

00:28:46.320 But I'm happy.

00:28:47.180 I'm happy that that was y'all's.

00:28:48.660 Did you see Rosalia?

00:28:49.620 I sure did.

00:28:50.420 That was crazy.

00:28:50.860 That was crazy.

00:28:51.260 We watched it because we couldn't get to stay.

00:28:53.060 We watched it on, like, you know, the live stream.

00:28:56.120 Yeah.

00:28:56.440 Oh, my God.

00:28:57.700 It was insane.

00:28:57.820 She was un-fucking-believable.

00:28:59.940 I know.

00:29:00.200 Even on our bus TV stream.

00:29:01.400 Yeah.

00:29:01.440 I think everybody fell in love, like, deeply.

00:29:03.720 More than some people.

00:29:04.760 I'm trying to think of who else played that weekend.

00:29:06.660 Boy Genius was there.

00:29:07.600 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:08.300 Shout out to the boys.

00:29:09.000 Shout out to our boys.

00:29:09.920 Yeah.

00:29:10.160 Yeah, we watched them, too.

00:29:11.480 They were great.

00:29:12.100 Who else did I watch?

00:29:13.060 Oh, I watched Gorillaz.

00:29:14.460 That was that one.

00:29:14.780 Oh, yeah.

00:29:15.320 We heard that.

00:29:15.960 That one was good.

00:29:16.860 Yeah, kind of fun.

00:29:17.720 Oh, and Bad Bunny.

00:29:18.720 Oh, Bad Bunny was night one, yeah.

00:29:20.300 I was so, I don't know why, but we were, like, right up against the stage for Gorillaz.

00:29:25.720 I'm not even really, like, I'm not, like, a huge Gorillaz fan, but, like, I know the music.

00:29:30.080 Yeah.

00:29:30.340 I was like, why am I in the mosh pit?

00:29:32.680 I was like, my ass is too big to be in here.

00:29:35.120 Was the production really cool, though?

00:29:36.180 It was really cool.

00:29:37.020 Like, visually, it was, like, stunning.

00:29:38.540 That's kind of, like, their thing, too.

00:29:39.940 Yeah, they're very, like, their animation's a huge part of their show.

00:29:43.400 Yeah.

00:29:43.480 Yeah.

00:29:43.560 Which is, it was sick.

00:29:44.320 Wait, can you see their human bodies?

00:29:47.820 Yeah, yeah, we could see.

00:29:49.280 We saw a human body.

00:29:50.000 It's the guy from Blur.

00:29:51.460 Can you imagine if they were actual monkeys playing instruments?

00:29:54.100 I mean, I just think that would be cool for them to, like, transition, you know, like,

00:29:58.200 when it's, like, they want to stop touring.

00:30:00.240 They do, like, a Hannah Montana, like, costume switch, and they come out, and they're the

00:30:04.340 monkey.

00:30:04.760 Yeah.

00:30:05.300 And then it's, like, half gorilla, half human.

00:30:08.820 I'm interested.

00:30:09.440 Let's pitch it.

00:30:10.180 Let's pitch it.

00:30:11.500 TM, don't take that idea.

00:30:12.660 I'm pretty sure they watch the show.

00:30:13.900 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:14.440 I know the gorillas are huge fans.

00:30:16.160 They're in my mosh pit, like, when they watch them.

00:30:18.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:18.780 They barricade for this.

00:30:21.400 Yeah.

00:30:21.760 Why the fuck was I barricade for gorillas?

00:30:24.320 Like, there was somebody else.

00:30:24.960 Trying to see who was after the gorillas?

00:30:27.820 I honestly don't know why we were there.

00:30:29.860 Why were we there?

00:30:30.760 I miss, we miss people, and we were like, why did we stare there the whole time?

00:30:33.640 It was kind of like, you know, when you're, like, that close, and then you kind of get

00:30:36.900 locked in there.

00:30:37.620 Oh, right.

00:30:37.960 You're just kind of stuck.

00:30:39.280 That's my worst fear.

00:30:40.340 You're in for the ride.

00:30:40.820 Yeah.

00:30:41.020 I feel like if you're going to a music festival, like, you really, I really just, like, kind

00:30:45.140 of abandon all plans.

00:30:46.640 There's no plan.

00:30:47.720 No way.

00:30:48.120 No, my plan every year, if I do go to Coachella, is to stay alive.

00:30:52.340 That's really it.

00:30:52.880 Oh, my God.

00:30:53.140 I'm like, whatever's so important.

00:30:55.540 That's my only priority all weekend.

00:30:56.820 You're going into a truly hectic, threatening zone.

00:31:01.460 Yeah.

00:31:02.200 Yeah.

00:31:02.720 I used to do better.

00:31:03.520 When you stoke foot on that.

00:31:04.700 Yeah, I used to go car camping in Coachella, and oh, my God.

00:31:07.500 You're stronger than me.

00:31:08.380 I mean, I was in high school.

00:31:09.340 I can't believe you went, like.

00:31:11.280 To Coachella?

00:31:12.040 Yeah, I'm like, was someone paying you?

00:31:14.040 No.

00:31:14.500 Okay.

00:31:15.040 People like, this is the thing.

00:31:16.720 People love music.

00:31:17.780 We did go artists, though.

00:31:19.740 Yeah.

00:31:20.100 We did go artists, though.

00:31:21.340 That's the only.

00:31:21.540 Which is the only reason why.

00:31:23.220 People like festivals.

00:31:24.260 We play festivals.

00:31:25.220 I know.

00:31:25.460 That's why we don't want to go to the festival.

00:31:26.880 It's normal.

00:31:27.600 I know.

00:31:28.120 We're just like, whoa.

00:31:29.300 Because you're like, I can't believe you went.

00:31:30.620 Well, the only reason we did go was because, well, I don't car camp.

00:31:33.720 That's for damn sure.

00:31:34.900 And you better not.

00:31:35.920 Hell yeah.

00:31:36.520 And we went artists, and we went with our friends.

00:31:39.580 Yeah.

00:31:40.120 Brittany Broski, you went with us last year.

00:31:42.240 That was fun.

00:31:42.300 Thank you.

00:31:42.440 And her and I together, we're really good friends, and our big group went together.

00:31:48.140 And I remember one of her friends wanted to go watch Blink-182.

00:31:51.620 Yeah.

00:31:51.960 And that was our first time going artists, so I didn't know they had all these back roads.

00:31:56.440 And so the carts were gone, and then one of the security ladies was like, oh, if you want

00:32:02.080 to make it, you should just walk through GA.

00:32:04.340 And we were like, all right, fine.

00:32:07.000 And we go, that was the worst decision I could have ever made.

00:32:10.720 You get to see what it's really like.

00:32:12.140 And I've been GA.

00:32:13.380 When I didn't do this for a living, I went one year, and I went GA.

00:32:17.540 And it was cool, but I was like, I'm never spending money on that again.

00:32:20.600 I'm a liar.

00:32:21.280 And then when we walked through GA, it was just a nightmare because me and Brittany are together,

00:32:25.360 and I'm a huge bitch, and so they can see me from a mile away.

00:32:29.260 My boyfriend's with us.

00:32:30.180 He's huge, too.

00:32:31.220 You just can't change your face.

00:32:32.620 No, really.

00:32:33.200 If I could, I would put my boyfriend in a wig so that no one could see him, or I'll make

00:32:36.800 him run ahead of me.

00:32:37.920 But I felt like that episode of Game of Thrones when he's, like, the battle of the bastards

00:32:42.120 when he's being suffocated by the bodies, and he's like, that was literally me.

00:32:45.880 Oh, my God.

00:32:46.500 It was horrible.

00:32:47.700 It was so bad.

00:32:48.540 And then we got there.

00:32:49.140 The set was over.

00:32:49.980 Not even worth it.

00:32:50.780 Oh, damn.

00:32:51.700 It wasn't even worth it.

00:32:53.140 Yeah.

00:32:53.420 Yeah, so you don't really have a choice at this point.

00:32:56.280 Drew, you're simply too famous.

00:32:57.620 Oh, God, guys.

00:32:58.560 What can we do?

00:32:59.120 Guys, please just treat me like everybody else.

00:33:01.280 Please.

00:33:02.680 That's the thing is, I don't even give a shit.

00:33:04.300 It's just more so, like, don't touch me.

00:33:05.780 Yeah, right.

00:33:06.240 And I'm a Virgo, so I hate being touched by people who don't know me at all.

00:33:10.080 No, I mean, I think that's human stuff.

00:33:12.940 I don't even think that.

00:33:13.640 I get it.

00:33:14.520 No, I'm touching and being touched.

00:33:16.560 I don't.

00:33:16.920 I don't want you to touch me.

00:33:18.720 I don't want you to touch me.

00:33:19.420 My sister's very touchy.

00:33:20.780 I'm not at all, so I'm very, like.

00:33:22.620 It's dependent.

00:33:23.420 It's really dependent.

00:33:24.500 I don't want to.

00:33:25.080 It's, like, straight.

00:33:25.980 You got to.

00:33:26.480 Unless you're the most dazzling person I've ever seen.

00:33:29.280 You know what I mean?

00:33:29.800 Who can, like, woo me into.

00:33:31.620 You say that you don't want me to touch you, but I feel like sometimes you need a hug.

00:33:35.840 I don't want you to touch me.

00:33:38.660 And you're kind of smiling.

00:33:42.320 Tolerance.

00:33:43.200 Tolerance.

00:33:43.800 That's a tolerance sound.

00:33:45.080 Yeah, even me.

00:33:45.780 It's kind of hard for me to be, like.

00:33:47.580 Like, I like affection.

00:33:48.960 Yeah, it just depends.

00:33:49.880 Yeah.

00:33:50.300 It's really dependent.

00:33:51.200 But a lot of times I'm like, I'm good.

00:33:52.840 Yeah.

00:33:52.980 Do you and your boyfriend cuddle?

00:33:54.540 Yeah.

00:33:55.100 He's, like, the only person.

00:33:56.880 That's the only person.

00:33:58.240 Totally.

00:33:58.520 I don't care if he touches me.

00:33:59.660 But anyone else, I'm like, oh, all right.

00:34:01.460 I'm with you.

00:34:02.060 And I remember, like, even so, and I'm sure I'm so curious to know y'all's stories with

00:34:07.740 these, but, like, with fans, like, God bless them, love them so much.

00:34:12.080 Sometimes too much.

00:34:13.780 Too much touching.

00:34:14.920 For sure.

00:34:15.080 For sure.

00:34:15.100 Which I, sometimes it's a little too much for me where I have to say something, which I

00:34:18.860 hate.

00:34:19.220 Like, I don't want to upset you, but sometimes they'll, like, just reach for me.

00:34:23.200 Yeah.

00:34:23.660 So I'm like, ooh.

00:34:24.760 Ooh.

00:34:25.240 Yeah.

00:34:25.600 Love you, though.

00:34:26.120 Love you, though.

00:34:26.760 Love you, though.

00:34:26.920 I feel like you're also kind of at a different level than us.

00:34:29.800 You're fucking famous.

00:34:30.900 Yeah.

00:34:31.820 More famous than you?

00:34:32.920 Yes, honey.

00:34:33.460 I think so.

00:34:34.340 You're out of your mind if you think that's true.

00:34:36.480 Vote in the comments.

00:34:37.420 Yeah.

00:34:37.860 We can also be anonymously famous to some people where it's like, oh, they know the band, but

00:34:43.320 they don't know us.

00:34:44.040 Yeah, they've heard of us and then they talk to us, like, and then they're like, oh, I

00:34:50.040 didn't know you were from that, if we're not all three together.

00:34:53.380 Yeah.

00:34:53.580 I didn't know that you were.

00:34:54.720 I was going to say, oh, I love that song.

00:34:59.840 Have you ever had someone be like, you look really familiar.

00:35:04.460 And then you're like, oh, I don't know.

00:35:06.880 For sure.

00:35:07.060 And then they're like, do I know you from somewhere?

00:35:09.360 And then they kind of make you do the dance.

00:35:11.120 And you're like, please don't make me.

00:35:12.560 Yeah.

00:35:12.900 I'm doing the dance with an anonymous.

00:35:14.860 Like, I sell insurance.

00:35:16.440 Yeah.

00:35:16.880 Joe's an accountant.

00:35:17.540 I'll lie all the time, too.

00:35:18.660 I'll be like, no, probably not.

00:35:20.120 Yeah.

00:35:20.620 I doubt it.

00:35:21.380 I was visiting my grandma and we went out to dinner and this waitress was like, kept

00:35:27.040 looking at me and she was like, I'm sorry.

00:35:28.400 Like, I am getting distracted because you really look like the singer of like one of

00:35:32.500 my favorite bands.

00:35:33.560 And I was like, oh.

00:35:35.500 And then.

00:35:37.280 Blackpink.

00:35:37.960 I know I get that all the time.

00:35:41.960 I'm not her.

00:35:42.460 And my grandma was like, oh, well, she she she's a musician, too.

00:35:46.040 So that's funny.

00:35:47.180 But like my grandma, like didn't put it together.

00:35:49.700 No, it's great.

00:35:50.860 She didn't know.

00:35:51.440 I was famous enough.

00:35:52.180 Yeah.

00:35:52.440 I love that.

00:35:52.960 To be a real thing.

00:35:53.460 I love that.

00:35:54.280 So your grandma didn't pick up the cues.

00:35:56.400 Oh, yeah.

00:35:56.760 No, my grandma just didn't think I was I was famous enough for that to be a thing.

00:36:00.220 That's so awesome.

00:36:01.200 The waitress had to come back and like and be really explicit.

00:36:03.960 Getting sunned by your own grandma.

00:36:05.420 Are you kidding?

00:36:06.420 Well, no, I think she just.

00:36:07.680 Yeah, she just didn't know.

00:36:09.040 Well, she doesn't.

00:36:09.640 You know, my family does that to me all the time.

00:36:11.100 It's all right.

00:36:11.700 Also, I genuinely didn't know because I'm.

00:36:14.320 You could totally.

00:36:14.920 Like if I'm in L.A.

00:36:15.800 Again, like being band famous is a thing.

00:36:18.740 And then also being gay famous.

00:36:20.140 It's like.

00:36:20.660 Yeah.

00:36:21.140 I feel like if I'm in Los Angeles, that's one thing.

00:36:22.980 But if I'm in like a town in Florida.

00:36:25.280 Yeah.

00:36:25.560 I'm not thinking that I'm going to get clocked.

00:36:27.920 Totally.

00:36:28.540 Totally.

00:36:29.120 Yeah.

00:36:29.540 I feel that.

00:36:30.060 Our fans also, though, like I'll say that they are like some of the most respectful people.

00:36:35.180 They really are.

00:36:35.680 Like all time.

00:36:36.480 We're lucky, baby.

00:36:37.140 Like it's rare to not like they they respect our personal space and like stuff like they're

00:36:42.780 just great because they also know.

00:36:45.860 I mean, I think if you like us, you know that we're just sensitive people and they're down

00:36:49.720 for, you know, that vibe.

00:36:51.700 That's I think that's wonderful.

00:36:53.280 And honestly, the only people that have ever crossed boundaries with me.

00:36:55.980 Yeah.

00:36:56.240 I genuinely don't think are huge fans.

00:36:59.100 They're just they recognize me.

00:37:01.100 Yeah.

00:37:01.320 A lot of times I don't even know my fucking name, which is funnier.

00:37:04.200 Yeah.

00:37:04.760 Yeah.

00:37:04.960 They're like, yo, they're like, you're like that one girl, like with the laugh and stuff.

00:37:09.940 Right.

00:37:10.260 And I'm like, I don't.

00:37:11.880 You're going to have to be a little bit more specific.

00:37:13.700 I could be.

00:37:14.100 Yeah.

00:37:14.180 You're like, just a quick quiz.

00:37:15.680 But the one girl with the one.

00:37:17.240 Yeah.

00:37:17.640 And I'm like, I could very well be that person that you're thinking.

00:37:20.640 Yeah.

00:37:20.760 But you don't really owe them shit.

00:37:22.340 Yeah.

00:37:22.820 But it's.

00:37:23.700 And, you know, I will say this, too.

00:37:24.980 When I did go to y'all's show.

00:37:26.460 Yeah.

00:37:26.640 Um, your fans are so sweet.

00:37:29.940 They're the best.

00:37:30.340 Like the sweetest people alive.

00:37:31.420 And I did get recognized a ton at your show.

00:37:33.300 And they were all very, very sweet.

00:37:34.740 That's really sweet.

00:37:35.400 That's nice.

00:37:35.660 And they were so nice.

00:37:36.720 And they said hi from a distance.

00:37:38.240 And they're like, I don't want to bother you.

00:37:39.540 But keep it up.

00:37:40.240 That's what I like to hear.

00:37:41.380 Yeah.

00:37:42.100 The soldier's hard at work.

00:37:43.160 Keep up the good behavior.

00:37:44.740 Yeah.

00:37:45.280 I like the good behavior.

00:37:46.920 Yeah.

00:37:48.120 Wow.

00:37:48.920 Wow.

00:37:49.700 Don't bring mama into this.

00:37:51.800 They're going to start acting up.

00:37:52.880 Yeah.

00:37:53.220 Why does everybody think I'm older?

00:37:55.060 And you say that.

00:37:55.620 She said, mama live.

00:37:56.640 Okay.

00:37:58.080 Whoa.

00:37:59.440 I am curious, too, about when it comes to, like, I know, I feel like you're the song that

00:38:04.960 really, like, made you move from purely, like, when you said gay famous into, was it Silk

00:38:11.400 Chiffon?

00:38:11.800 I feel like that was your biggest song.

00:38:13.440 Yeah.

00:38:13.700 How did that song come about?

00:38:14.760 I'm so curious.

00:38:15.440 I would love to hear the story.

00:38:16.440 Yeah.

00:38:16.740 So I started writing that song, like, right after we finished our second album.

00:38:21.920 It's really common for me to, like, once we're done turning in a record and, like, the pressure

00:38:28.600 comes off, sometimes I'll, like, have a burst of creativity because that's the exact point

00:38:33.420 that I don't need it.

00:38:35.240 Naturally.

00:38:35.880 Naturally.

00:38:36.460 So that's when it happens.

00:38:37.820 And it genuinely was just based off of, like, a lot of my writing is just autobiographical.

00:38:44.480 I hate to say it, but it's, like, I had taken some time off of dating while we were writing

00:38:52.300 our second record and was, like, getting back in the game a little bit and, like, flirting

00:38:57.240 with some girls.

00:38:58.300 And I was rollerblading around town.

00:39:04.360 Not kidding.

00:39:05.420 Like, I really.

00:39:06.200 Katie got rid of her car.

00:39:07.760 Yeah.

00:39:08.020 And was like, I'm going to use my rollerblades as transportation.

00:39:11.260 No, this is the guy.

00:39:11.760 He's so gay.

00:39:12.620 I got rid of my car because I had too bad of anxiety.

00:39:16.940 So you went on the streets.

00:39:18.820 I'm just going to rollerblade around.

00:39:20.000 You went on the streets of LA.

00:39:22.180 Yeah.

00:39:22.520 In my rollerblades and almost got myself killed, like, ten times.

00:39:26.520 Jesus Christ.

00:39:27.240 Yeah.

00:39:27.780 So, I mean, it was just, like, it was just life.

00:39:31.520 And then I took that song.

00:39:34.340 I tried to do some co-writing for the third album.

00:39:37.440 So I took, like, the beginning of that song to Nashville and worked on it a bit more.

00:39:41.520 And then I sent it to somebody who is in Phoebe's band.

00:39:47.600 And her, like, biggest co-writer, Marshall Vore.

00:39:51.760 Yeah.

00:39:52.080 Oh, love.

00:39:52.460 And he was, like, he really liked the song.

00:39:59.360 Yeah.

00:39:59.540 And then we had been, like, talking at the time about, we didn't really know what our future

00:40:05.600 was going to be at RCA.

00:40:07.100 Yeah.

00:40:07.120 Because we got dropped during the pandemic.

00:40:09.760 Oh, wow.

00:40:10.460 I didn't know that.

00:40:10.940 So, yeah.

00:40:11.900 So, like, Silk is very connected to kind of, like, also getting signed to Phoebe's label.

00:40:17.580 Oh, love it.

00:40:18.040 So, like, after, yeah, after that, we, I don't know, like, were we talking about the EP after

00:40:29.040 we got dropped?

00:40:29.940 No, it was before.

00:40:31.140 Okay, like, we weren't sure what was going to be next.

00:40:33.320 Yeah, we were desperate.

00:40:34.460 And we weren't expecting RCA to give us money for, like, a full record.

00:40:37.040 But we were, like, maybe we can do an EP of, like.

00:40:40.460 Collabs.

00:40:41.100 Collabs, like, with different queer artists.

00:40:43.240 Yeah.

00:40:43.660 And so we had thought about Phoebe for Silk.

00:40:46.900 And then we got dropped and Phoebe had started a record label.

00:40:52.100 And so, and we knew she wanted to sign us.

00:40:55.340 Yeah, period.

00:40:56.180 And then after that, we were, like, well, girl, you better get on it.

00:41:01.040 Because you're going to own this home.

00:41:02.740 So.

00:41:03.380 And she did.

00:41:04.420 And she did.

00:41:05.240 And she didn't.

00:41:05.880 Yeah.

00:41:06.160 And it took off.

00:41:07.240 Yeah.

00:41:07.500 She's just the fucking homie.

00:41:09.520 Yeah.

00:41:09.880 Like, I don't think.

00:41:11.840 She really has been a good homie to us.

00:41:12.380 I don't even know if she really understands.

00:41:15.580 No, she would never.

00:41:16.200 Like, how much she shaved our ass.

00:41:17.400 But she would also, she's the kind of person who, because she believes in us.

00:41:20.800 Yeah, totally.

00:41:21.340 And she's the kind of person who would also, like, never say that.

00:41:23.440 Because she would be, like, it's because you guys are great.

00:41:25.960 Yeah.

00:41:26.240 She didn't mean it.

00:41:27.120 She wouldn't put her, like, support behind it all.

00:41:29.720 And she did.

00:41:30.420 She, I mean, she put, like, you know, she was popping so much at the time.

00:41:33.340 Where it's, like, she put more than just signing us.

00:41:35.400 Like, she put her celebrity, like, on the line to be, like, be on that song.

00:41:38.760 Be a part of, like, everything.

00:41:40.140 Totally.

00:41:40.300 Where it's, like, yeah.

00:41:41.600 We're on our knees saying thank you.

00:41:43.420 Yeah.

00:41:43.600 God bless Phoebe.

00:41:44.480 And it worked out.

00:41:45.260 It was different for her, too, at the time.

00:41:47.280 Definitely.

00:41:47.400 She'd done a lot of featuring, I think.

00:41:48.900 But it was all similarly, like, kind of folky indie shit.

00:41:52.340 Yeah.

00:41:52.560 And we were just, like, would you be on a pop song, I guess?

00:41:55.500 Yeah.

00:41:56.340 And, I don't know.

00:41:57.140 Yeah, different for her.

00:41:58.280 But she saw something in y'all, so.

00:41:59.840 And it worked out.

00:42:00.460 Thank God.

00:42:00.740 Hell yeah.

00:42:01.200 I know.

00:42:01.720 We've been orbiting.

00:42:02.800 She's got the touch of a God.

00:42:04.540 Yeah, touch of a God.

00:42:05.500 The Midas touch.

00:42:06.180 The Midas touch, honey.

00:42:07.940 Yeah.

00:42:08.520 So that was, and, like, right after we put it out, we were also opening for her on tour.

00:42:15.200 Love.

00:42:15.420 And, like, when we started playing shows on that run, we, like, started realizing, like,

00:42:21.480 people know the song.

00:42:23.140 Yeah.

00:42:23.480 Almost more than any other song in the set.

00:42:26.220 And then now it's, like, now when we play, it's usually the last song that we play.

00:42:30.080 Totally.

00:42:30.320 Just because, like.

00:42:31.040 Yeah, definitely.

00:42:32.040 It was, like, your big, big, like, launch pad song.

00:42:34.580 Oh, right.

00:42:35.060 Totally.

00:42:35.580 Totally.

00:42:36.280 So what about, how about the Taylor Swift of it all?

00:42:39.180 I'm assuming, is that through Phoebe?

00:42:41.220 You know, Taylor's honestly known us for a while, which is funny.

00:42:45.440 Yeah, she's.

00:42:46.180 Oh, period.

00:42:46.580 Yeah, period.

00:42:47.340 She put us on a playlist, like, back when we were in London, like, years ago.

00:42:50.760 Yeah.

00:42:51.300 She put one of our songs so special on one of her, like, Apple Music playlists, and then

00:42:56.840 she put number one fan on another playlist that she made.

00:42:59.960 So she's, like, listened to all of our albums.

00:43:02.420 I mean, God bless her.

00:43:04.040 Yeah.

00:43:04.280 So we've known at least that she was, like, aware of us.

00:43:07.860 And we know, we've toured with Jack Antonoff.

00:43:10.280 With Jack Antonoff.

00:43:11.040 Yeah.

00:43:11.560 A bunch.

00:43:12.460 We've toured with Bleachers a ton.

00:43:13.540 And he's taken us out, like, you know, dating kind of way back.

00:43:16.760 And yeah, shout out to Jack.

00:43:19.480 And so there, we've been, we've been aware that she at least, like, knew of us.

00:43:25.380 Yeah.

00:43:26.860 But yeah, it was still, like, you know.

00:43:29.480 To get the ask.

00:43:30.400 A whole shit.

00:43:31.160 We were just like, well, obviously we're doing this.

00:43:32.960 Can you reply to her now and tell her we're doing it?

00:43:35.820 So it's like.

00:43:36.420 We'll figure out details later.

00:43:37.380 So when you go on tour, you, like, let's say you're an artist that's going on tour.

00:43:43.420 It's like, you usually, like, have people pitch to go on tour with you.

00:43:46.920 It's like, for this tour, no one gets to pitch.

00:43:49.380 She hand selects everybody.

00:43:51.960 Of course.

00:43:52.620 And people, I know people were asking our managers, like, how did we get it?

00:43:55.780 And we're like, we don't know.

00:43:56.880 We really don't know.

00:43:57.920 Couldn't tell you.

00:43:58.500 No.

00:43:59.680 She just.

00:44:00.480 She just asked you.

00:44:01.500 Yeah.

00:44:02.060 I mean, she, that, that's really the Midas touch.

00:44:04.680 Like, my God.

00:44:05.580 That's crazy.

00:44:06.640 Yeah.

00:44:07.200 And how was that performing in arenas?

00:44:09.820 So wild.

00:44:10.840 It was crazy.

00:44:11.620 So it's like, I didn't actually know there was a difference between arenas and stadiums.

00:44:16.920 Yeah.

00:44:17.180 But, like, we, we, I feel like we've worked our way up.

00:44:21.620 Like, we, we've been touring as an opening act for a long time.

00:44:26.000 Yeah.

00:44:26.200 We've played, like, every size venue that you could possibly think of.

00:44:29.600 Yeah.

00:44:29.620 And I was really expecting, like, to be really anxious about those shows.

00:44:38.260 But my experience a little bit was, like, once we got out there, it was kind of, like,

00:44:43.680 being on a playground.

00:44:45.720 Like.

00:44:45.860 Well, it's huge.

00:44:46.960 Yeah.

00:44:47.320 It's fucking huge.

00:44:47.580 The thing that, the only thing that I'll say about it, like, the stage is so big.

00:44:51.760 We kept getting trapped, not trapped on stage, but trapped in the idea that we had to run

00:44:57.060 the whole stage all the time.

00:44:58.340 Oh, yeah.

00:44:58.380 I was really out of breath.

00:44:58.980 And so we were, we were doing so much cardio on stage.

00:45:02.600 Should have worn an Apple Watch.

00:45:03.980 Yeah.

00:45:04.160 I mean, like.

00:45:04.740 I did that once and I ran five miles a show.

00:45:07.760 I'm serious.

00:45:09.760 That's insane.

00:45:11.300 That is so funny.

00:45:12.600 Yeah.

00:45:12.900 I mean, you just, you just cannot stop yourself.

00:45:15.980 Me, personally.

00:45:16.640 Me.

00:45:17.080 I could not stop.

00:45:18.240 Yeah.

00:45:18.620 So that was, like, the main comment I got from, like, family and stuff that came to

00:45:21.300 see the show.

00:45:21.760 They were like, I don't know how you physically did that.

00:45:24.960 They're like, you look like you're getting a workout up there.

00:45:26.340 Yeah, exactly.

00:45:27.000 It's also so big that you don't actually, like, realize how big it is.

00:45:31.320 Yeah.

00:45:31.420 And also, we did, we did a tour with Kacey Musgraves, like, love her.

00:45:34.620 What, two years ago?

00:45:35.440 Love her.

00:45:35.880 Three years ago.

00:45:36.540 I know.

00:45:37.200 Shout out.

00:45:37.800 And that really, I think, prepped us for this.

00:45:39.880 Because at a certain point, it's, like, a certain amount of people, like, just looks

00:45:42.820 kind of the same.

00:45:43.600 Yeah.

00:45:43.700 Even if it's, like, 20,000 more people.

00:45:45.620 You just don't, your brain doesn't.

00:45:47.400 You're not counting.

00:45:48.480 No.

00:45:49.040 And also, you're opening.

00:45:50.160 So it's, like, you're trying just to convince them to care.

00:45:52.360 Right.

00:45:52.820 Because people, no, literally.

00:45:53.600 You are.

00:45:54.320 People, people are, like, people don't know you.

00:45:56.500 They're going to get their, we always say it's hot dog.

00:45:58.380 Because, like, this is when people are going out in the stands, getting their hot dogs.

00:46:01.240 And you got to convince them.

00:46:02.700 Hot dog set.

00:46:03.280 And so you got to convince them to be, like, drop the hot dog and watch our set.

00:46:07.900 You know what I mean?

00:46:08.320 But her fans are also so, like.

00:46:10.780 Oh, my God.

00:46:11.400 There's so much.

00:46:12.840 They, they, they are so.

00:46:16.000 They respect her choices.

00:46:17.020 They respect her choices.

00:46:17.960 They're dedicated to, like, being a part of her world in any way that she will allow them

00:46:23.840 to be.

00:46:24.320 Yeah, totally.

00:46:25.040 So I think, like, they had, a good amount of them had, like, an inherent interest in

00:46:30.320 who the openers were.

00:46:31.160 Because it's, like, oh, this is a band or this is an artist that Taylor likes.

00:46:35.040 So, like, I'm going to try to like them.

00:46:36.260 So I want to like them.

00:46:36.920 Yeah.

00:46:37.480 Yeah.

00:46:37.720 So people did come with, like, open minds and, and had done, I mean, there were, like,

00:46:42.540 TikToks back in the day being, like, we're going to walk you through the heiress tour

00:46:44.860 openers.

00:46:45.280 Just, like, so you're prepared when you go to the set.

00:46:47.160 Like, so you know, these are the, these are the songs you should listen to.

00:46:50.540 And, like, all this shit.

00:46:51.740 I mean, it was, like, it was wild.

00:46:53.280 So.

00:46:53.520 The show was, like, regardless of us, like, seeing that show and seeing how the fans are

00:46:58.960 at that show and just, like, how she performs, like, that's a master class in, like, performance

00:47:04.480 and I don't know anybody who does it better.

00:47:07.380 I mean, oh, my God.

00:47:08.140 I know.

00:47:08.580 I went to her L.A. show.

00:47:10.380 Oh, my God.

00:47:11.160 I was going to say, did you go nuts?

00:47:12.060 I did, yeah.

00:47:12.940 Y'all weren't there.

00:47:14.200 I know.

00:47:14.540 Because you're too cool for that one.

00:47:15.980 I mean, God.

00:47:17.040 Not cool enough for Kansas City.

00:47:18.840 I'll go again.

00:47:19.760 I'll do it again.

00:47:20.800 Yeah.

00:47:21.200 I'll say, tell Taylor.

00:47:22.260 Yeah, I saw, I saw her in, in, I think it was August.

00:47:26.040 Yeah.

00:47:26.520 So cool.

00:47:27.000 And it was, it was long.

00:47:29.140 Yeah, it's insane.

00:47:29.640 I could not believe how long she was going for.

00:47:31.820 Yeah, and people, people are dedicated to the entire show.

00:47:35.040 Yeah.

00:47:35.360 It's unbelievable.

00:47:36.520 It was truly, it was truly bananas watching it.

00:47:38.880 And it looks like, yeah, 2 billion people.

00:47:42.700 Yeah, definitely.

00:47:43.020 And maybe that's just my stupid bitch brain.

00:47:44.840 No, but I was like, there could be a hundred thousand or one million people in here.

00:47:48.740 Yeah, totally.

00:47:49.500 That's what happens.

00:47:51.160 I think, you know, it's just too many to understand.

00:47:53.540 It's completely insane.

00:47:55.760 And did y'all notice people singing along to every, every song that you guys had or y'all

00:48:00.760 had on, whether it was your really popular ones or whether it was just your kind of like

00:48:05.280 deeper cuts?

00:48:06.400 People would catch on.

00:48:07.340 I would say you could find some people that were singing along.

00:48:11.580 If anyone, if anyone, the thing that's funny, and I think about this, like when you do an

00:48:15.880 opening, in some ways it's like, if you saw us actually at an opening show, I am so much

00:48:20.560 more likely to pay attention to you and like give you personal attention.

00:48:23.940 Do you ever find this?

00:48:24.780 Yeah.

00:48:24.880 Like when someone's singing during an opening show, because it's like, I'm just trying

00:48:27.680 to connect with anybody.

00:48:28.660 Yeah.

00:48:29.000 I'm going to the person, the one person.

00:48:30.540 So if they want to connect with you, they got to come see y'all open.

00:48:33.420 Yeah.

00:48:33.800 That's a tip.

00:48:34.440 Yeah.

00:48:34.740 Do we play hard to get in a, in a, in a room of our devoted fans?

00:48:39.420 But you got to remain mysterious amongst your fans.

00:48:43.480 But our booking agent has promised us that we're going to be headliners now.

00:48:46.860 I hope so.

00:48:47.780 Yeah.

00:48:48.000 I hope so.

00:48:49.120 Unless Taylor.

00:48:49.660 Mike and Rachel.

00:48:50.900 Yeah.

00:48:51.140 Mike and Rachel.

00:48:51.680 That was going to be my next question.

00:48:54.760 I was going to ask like, if y'all, when y'all headline your own, when your own tour, like

00:48:58.580 who would y'all want to open for you?

00:49:00.500 Oh, that's such a good question.

00:49:01.780 We've had some great openers.

00:49:03.320 We've had a meet me at the altar, which is like a kind of like, what'd you say?

00:49:06.720 Pop punk?

00:49:07.420 Yeah.

00:49:07.560 They're a pop punk band.

00:49:08.560 Pop punk band who are awesome.

00:49:10.540 Totally.

00:49:11.060 I fucking love them.

00:49:11.700 Can I look at my phone?

00:49:12.960 Yeah, absolutely.

00:49:13.500 It's like, I'm just like, I never know what I'm listening to unless I have it.

00:49:17.200 I'm not listening to anybody cool.

00:49:19.260 That's for sure.

00:49:20.560 I'm not listening to anyone.

00:49:21.340 Also, a lot of the people that it's like, they, we could say that we'd want them to open

00:49:25.140 for us and then they'll be bigger than us in two months.

00:49:26.540 Yeah.

00:49:26.560 We had Jensen McRae.

00:49:27.140 I know.

00:49:27.620 We had Jensen McRae.

00:49:28.180 That is so true.

00:49:29.420 So it's like, we could save people, but they will be bigger than us in two months.

00:49:33.260 Jensen might be bigger than us now.

00:49:34.720 I don't know.

00:49:35.040 We had Jensen McRae open for us a while ago.

00:49:37.560 And like, she's, she went to USC and she's just such an amazing songwriter.

00:49:39.980 I didn't know Jensen went to USC.

00:49:42.120 Yeah, I love her.

00:49:43.520 I know.

00:49:43.780 Yeah.

00:49:43.980 So great.

00:49:44.700 She's the best.

00:49:46.140 Yeah.

00:49:46.580 I mean, I know her and I are mutuals on TikTok.

00:49:49.260 I did not know she was real.

00:49:50.720 Yeah.

00:49:50.900 She's also just like such a sweet person.

00:49:54.080 She's so talented.

00:49:54.840 I know.

00:49:55.260 Yeah.

00:49:55.380 She really is.

00:49:56.080 I have no musical gifts whatsoever.

00:49:58.640 I mean, I'm looking at my, I'm looking at what I've been listening to.

00:50:01.520 That's pretty cool.

00:50:02.200 I think that's awesome.

00:50:03.280 Yeah.

00:50:03.460 I think that is cool.

00:50:04.680 I'm looking at what I've been listening to.

00:50:05.960 It's all just like older lesbians.

00:50:07.620 Yeah.

00:50:08.200 That works.

00:50:08.580 I mean, dream scenario.

00:50:10.260 Note, we're opening for Katie's dream scenario.

00:50:13.080 We're opening for Tracy.

00:50:14.200 I was going to say Tracy Chapman.

00:50:15.320 Well, that's never.

00:50:16.600 Or Tori Amos.

00:50:17.600 Yeah.

00:50:18.360 Way to bring it up.

00:50:21.460 Yeah.

00:50:22.060 Yeah.

00:50:22.440 It's so hard to say.

00:50:23.220 All the people.

00:50:23.920 It's so hard to say.

00:50:24.860 Yeah.

00:50:25.240 I mean.

00:50:25.460 There's just, y'all have too many.

00:50:26.720 Everyone's going to be bigger than us in 12 hours.

00:50:29.440 I think it's also.

00:50:30.340 Well, that's kind of what happened with Chapel Rome.

00:50:32.400 I'm like, I feel like when she came up, I was like, cutie.

00:50:36.020 And then like, she's just been.

00:50:37.640 Yeah.

00:50:37.960 Skyrider.

00:50:38.440 I was going to say like the last dinner party, but they will be bigger than us in 12 hours.

00:50:43.260 Yeah.

00:50:43.420 It is what happens.

00:50:44.560 Y'all are just speaking into existence.

00:50:45.960 Every time you talk about them, they get, they get big.

00:50:47.800 I'm happy for them.

00:50:48.880 Hell yeah.

00:50:49.080 Empress of.

00:50:49.460 I love Empress of.

00:50:50.560 Oh my God.

00:50:51.340 Empress of.

00:50:51.960 She'll, she, same with her.

00:50:53.400 It's everyone.

00:50:54.480 God bless her.

00:50:55.260 You're like, your only requirement is you must be gay.

00:50:57.800 I really love.

00:50:59.060 Do you listen to Ali X?

00:51:00.780 I don't, I don't think so.

00:51:01.880 I really love her new record.

00:51:03.800 Yeah, you do.

00:51:04.640 Me.

00:51:05.160 Yeah, you do.

00:51:05.820 I don't know if she would want to go on tour.

00:51:06.620 Yeah, I know that about you.

00:51:07.720 Yeah, I don't know if she would.

00:51:08.680 You sure do.

00:51:09.360 Yeah.

00:51:09.560 Yeah, you sure do.

00:51:10.980 Yeah, you sure do.

00:51:11.680 You sure do like that.

00:51:13.220 Okay.

00:51:13.600 I want to get, I'll get onto the topic now.

00:51:15.640 Now we'll transition onto the topic.

00:51:17.660 Whoa.

00:51:18.360 Our topic today is basically creating a space to celebrate like queer joy in mainstream pop music,

00:51:24.240 which I feel like y'all, I mean, obviously y'all are not like the first queer artists

00:51:27.780 ever to exist, but I feel like y'all have to.

00:51:30.520 I mean, to some people you are.

00:51:32.060 Other than Tegan and Sarah, we were the first.

00:51:35.640 And for some reason, the Veronica's, even though they're sisters.

00:51:38.120 I know.

00:51:38.720 There's something gay about that shit.

00:51:41.180 There is.

00:51:41.740 The Veronica's are queer coded.

00:51:43.400 They are.

00:51:44.260 Well, their songs are like, so like sex for some reason.

00:51:47.640 But not sex with men.

00:51:48.780 That's for sure.

00:51:48.940 No, no, definitely not.

00:51:50.920 That's what I was like.

00:51:51.700 There's something about the Veronica's.

00:51:53.540 There's a little something there.

00:51:55.380 I do want to say, too, though, what I love about y'all is I feel that y'all's music and

00:52:02.940 band is, I feel like, some people's first experience listening to queer artists.

00:52:08.840 That's really cool.

00:52:09.900 Because y'all have moved into what people consider mainstream, especially being under

00:52:13.880 someone like Taylor Swift, right?

00:52:15.040 I feel like y'all are their first experience with queer music and it's beautiful.

00:52:19.940 I think it's a beautiful thing.

00:52:21.080 Like, they connect to your music and then they don't really know much about you.

00:52:24.340 But then when they look into it, they're like, oh, okay.

00:52:26.160 Like, it gives them, I think, a different lens on what they perceive to be queer music

00:52:31.620 and what they don't.

00:52:32.280 Because I, obviously, music is music.

00:52:34.280 It's not gendered in any way.

00:52:35.520 But I think your ability to transcend from just the gay community to anyone, really, who

00:52:40.980 wants to love pop music, I think that's a beautiful thing.

00:52:44.020 Girl, the amount of, like, middle-aged men who just have, like, straight men who just

00:52:49.700 have a lot of feelings who are, like, reaching out to us.

00:52:53.300 Father, thank you for what you do.

00:52:54.940 Oh, that's so sweet.

00:52:57.060 Yeah.

00:52:57.600 I think that's really beautiful.

00:52:58.760 But also, I do like hearing from, like, the younger fans who maybe saw us opening for

00:53:07.040 somebody and they were like, I was really, like, interested in what you guys were doing

00:53:11.440 and, like.

00:53:12.260 Humping on each other.

00:53:13.080 And then, like, they're like, come to find out, like, I'm gay.

00:53:16.340 Yeah.

00:53:16.940 Because, like, what?

00:53:17.880 I had a lot of feelings watching y'all.

00:53:20.060 Yeah.

00:53:20.500 And then I realized.

00:53:21.460 Yeah.

00:53:22.000 It's like, there was something about it.

00:53:23.820 That wasn't about you.

00:53:24.880 It was about me.

00:53:26.020 That really is funny, though, that that actually is an experience that we hear about.

00:53:29.600 Well, because that happened to me with, like, different things.

00:53:32.280 You know, it's like, you don't really know why.

00:53:34.000 You just don't think it's going to be you doing that thing.

00:53:35.840 I want to see that again.

00:53:38.840 Something about that is really intriguing me.

00:53:44.040 Your first, like, uh-oh.

00:53:46.220 Yeah.

00:53:46.800 Uh-oh.

00:53:47.240 Uh-oh.

00:53:47.860 Yeah.

00:53:48.340 Now y'all.

00:53:48.880 And now that's y'all for other people.

00:53:50.880 We're uh-ohs.

00:53:51.260 That's a really good album title.

00:53:52.980 Uh-oh.

00:53:53.140 Is that crazy to think about?

00:53:54.660 Uh-oh!

00:53:55.180 Exclamation.

00:53:55.540 I think it's kind of cool.

00:53:56.500 It is crazy.

00:53:57.100 I think it's really cool.

00:53:58.340 It's just humbling.

00:53:59.720 You know what I mean?

00:54:00.260 Like, you just don't, you know, we're just on a wild ride.

00:54:03.780 That's really it.

00:54:04.960 We're just lucky to be here.

00:54:06.520 Now you're people's realization.

00:54:08.580 Oh, that's why.

00:54:09.380 That's pretty cool.

00:54:10.240 It also makes me think about, you can cut this if you want, but it's like, the alt-right

00:54:15.300 of it all and their obsession with, like, grooming.

00:54:18.220 Oh, yeah.

00:54:18.640 And it's like, because, well, I'm sorry, but it's just like.

00:54:22.920 No, let's hear it.

00:54:23.840 We are, like, we probably are.

00:54:25.920 Katie, I already know where it's going.

00:54:26.740 Like, we probably are responsible for, like, a lot of, like, younger people realizing that

00:54:31.620 they're gay, but, like, I'm not doing that on purpose.

00:54:33.640 We're not making them gay.

00:54:34.980 Sorry.

00:54:35.260 We're definitely.

00:54:36.040 No, you guys are because you are.

00:54:38.560 We got to send you a shirt that, for our podcast, that Naomi designs all of our merch

00:54:43.840 and we have a shirt that says, become gay, and I think you would give it to me.

00:54:46.740 That is our mission.

00:54:47.500 I'll take it.

00:54:48.040 I'll wear it everywhere.

00:54:49.120 Become gay.

00:54:49.700 Yeah, that is the goal, actually.

00:54:51.800 Please.

00:54:51.820 I also ask that they do that.

00:54:53.080 Please do.

00:54:54.000 Do it.

00:54:54.520 Do it and do it swiftly.

00:54:55.600 We need more.

00:54:57.880 Yeah, please.

00:54:58.720 We need more in God's army.

00:55:00.300 We need more soldiers.

00:55:03.240 We're lacking on the front line.

00:55:04.680 We can't talk about the agenda on air, you guys.

00:55:07.120 You're right.

00:55:07.460 We're discussing the agenda.

00:55:08.180 We discuss this.

00:55:09.120 I know.

00:55:10.100 I've had, I've talked about this before because I've had someone when my sister and I were

00:55:14.580 on tour, we had like a section for Q&A and someone asked me if I'd ever thought that I was gay

00:55:20.460 because I've hated men for a very long time.

00:55:23.540 And I was like, yeah, obviously.

00:55:25.040 That was like the first thing I thought.

00:55:26.220 I was like, well, I'm probably gay.

00:55:27.820 And she was like, well, how do you know you're not?

00:55:29.440 And I was like, because I tried it and it didn't work.

00:55:31.700 And I wish that it did.

00:55:33.580 And say a little more.

00:55:34.300 I know your mom is in the room, but.

00:55:37.480 Hey, the MILF, the MILF's being too jizz.

00:55:40.500 Katie's going to get a little charcoal on her.

00:55:43.060 That's the same.

00:55:43.640 Maybe me.

00:55:44.340 Jizz is the safe word for all of us.

00:55:46.720 Hey, Katie, can I talk to you for a second?

00:55:48.140 When you come on our pod, I'll have you say a little more.

00:55:50.900 Please do.

00:55:51.660 On the top.

00:55:51.940 Oh, yeah.

00:55:52.220 I'll save that for y'all.

00:55:53.100 Yeah.

00:55:53.660 I mean, we all try.

00:55:54.640 I mean, I really try.

00:55:55.440 I tried to be straight, too.

00:55:56.500 But some people tried to be straight.

00:55:58.520 And it didn't.

00:55:59.200 I didn't.

00:56:00.480 When I was a kid, I took my time in.

00:56:02.120 Yeah.

00:56:02.360 Yeah.

00:56:02.940 Well, you're one of the front line soldiers.

00:56:06.680 Of trying.

00:56:07.400 Yeah.

00:56:07.840 Yeah.

00:56:08.260 You're like, you got a lot of man hours.

00:56:09.940 Yeah.

00:56:10.180 We all tried.

00:56:11.760 Uh-oh.

00:56:12.720 You and me both.

00:56:13.560 Unfortunately for me.

00:56:14.700 I was like, I do have crushes on guys, actually.

00:56:17.600 All right.

00:56:17.840 I'm going to read.

00:56:18.680 I'm going to read one of these.

00:56:19.920 I'll read this TikTok for y'all.

00:56:21.300 OK, so this one is.

00:56:22.580 I love to read TikTok.

00:56:23.780 You and me both.

00:56:24.940 It starts with a clip from a podcast where a guy says, quote, gay people do not produce

00:56:30.520 anything good.

00:56:31.520 End quote.

00:56:32.500 Facts.

00:56:33.080 A man duetted the video.

00:56:34.400 Absolute fact.

00:56:35.500 A man duetted the video and added pictures of some of his favorite songs produced by queer

00:56:39.420 people, including Lil Nas X, Boy Genius, Brockhampton, and Perfume Genius.

00:56:44.340 Yeah, baby.

00:56:45.040 And basically, they're proving them wrong.

00:56:47.940 But they said, gay people do not produce anything good.

00:56:51.100 And I agree.

00:56:53.540 Oh, really?

00:56:54.840 Oh, OK.

00:56:55.360 I corrected it.

00:56:56.000 It says, gay people does not produce anything good.

00:56:58.320 Gay people.

00:56:59.640 Straight people produced you talking like that.

00:57:02.440 Yeah.

00:57:02.880 Straight people produced war and famine.

00:57:05.440 So that's kind of on y'all.

00:57:07.560 Hey, jerky.

00:57:08.140 That's on y'all.

00:57:09.800 Gay people do not.

00:57:11.740 I was going to say, gay people maybe do not produce the best.

00:57:14.780 We don't produce the best driving skills, but we do produce some of the best music, and

00:57:20.220 that's a fact.

00:57:20.780 But they do rollerblade.

00:57:21.620 And they do rollerblade around Los Angeles a lot.

00:57:24.740 Yeah.

00:57:25.240 I mean, they produce some of the best dance moves.

00:57:27.780 I'm saying.

00:57:28.580 Everything fun and awesome in the world was produced by gay people.

00:57:31.160 I would say gay people kind of produce a lot.

00:57:34.300 We're kind of producing everything.

00:57:35.420 Straight people are just reproducing.

00:57:37.300 Yeah, they're just colonizing it.

00:57:38.880 Yeah.

00:57:39.280 They gentrify it.

00:57:40.080 They take it and they make it something awful.

00:57:41.920 Like, you ever have straight people get a hold of a joke and you're like, no, it's ruined.

00:57:45.500 No, it is ruined.

00:57:46.020 Forget it.

00:57:46.920 Yeah, it truly does happen.

00:57:48.520 It happens all the time.

00:57:49.620 They tarnish it.

00:57:50.320 You can flip an hourglass as to when something is going to become, when something is going

00:57:54.180 to reach a straight person's ear and then be like, I love the way that sounds.

00:57:57.360 And then they work into their vocabulary.

00:58:00.540 That's spunky.

00:58:00.800 Yeah, they run it into the ground.

00:58:02.740 God damn.

00:58:03.400 Oh, man.

00:58:03.820 It's horrible.

00:58:04.900 I get that.

00:58:05.680 And I can say that as a fellow straight, unfortunately.

00:58:09.340 Okay, so the comments on this, this one says, you literally showed us trash ass songs.

00:58:13.840 So what are you talking about?

00:58:15.140 Go ahead and put Moon on there and see.

00:58:17.300 For real.

00:58:17.880 That was the mistake.

00:58:18.620 Wait, I want to know the songs, though.

00:58:20.520 I don't know what songs.

00:58:22.380 Perfume Genius.

00:58:23.660 Boy Genius.

00:58:24.780 Boy Genius.

00:58:25.280 Boy Genius and Brockhampton.

00:58:26.480 Those are kind of all sounds sick.

00:58:27.160 So at least half genius.

00:58:28.760 Yeah.

00:58:29.420 Content.

00:58:30.980 Pretty explanatory.

00:58:31.960 Genius is in the name, guys.

00:58:33.220 Yeah, for real.

00:58:34.340 I'm like, also, there are so many good songs from all of those people.

00:58:38.180 Yeah.

00:58:38.380 And straight people produce some of the best gay music.

00:58:42.060 Kylie Minogue.

00:58:43.740 Whoa.

00:58:44.400 And Cher.

00:58:45.460 Actually, it's true, but I don't know if that's good for the case.

00:58:47.860 It's not good.

00:58:48.980 No, but wow.

00:58:50.040 That doesn't hurt.

00:58:50.780 That hurts y'all's case.

00:58:51.840 I love that.

00:58:52.120 Gay people produce the best fandoms.

00:58:54.300 That's true, too.

00:58:55.060 That's a fact.

00:58:55.740 That's very true.

00:58:56.920 I feel like if the gays love you, it's going to work out regardless.

00:59:01.120 That is true.

00:59:01.840 They latch on for life.

00:59:02.880 They will.

00:59:03.660 It's the same thing with women, whether they're gay or not.

00:59:06.320 Like, if you have a primarily female demographic.

00:59:09.340 They love you.

00:59:09.920 You're going to work out.

00:59:10.740 Yeah.

00:59:10.940 I love that.

00:59:11.760 That is true for lesbians.

00:59:13.720 What do you mean?

00:59:14.520 If lesbians love you.

00:59:15.460 If lesbians love you, then, like, they love you for life.

00:59:17.220 Yeah.

00:59:17.380 I think it's true for gay guys.

00:59:19.060 Well, Taylor Swift was your gateway into straight women.

00:59:21.780 Right, right.

00:59:22.580 Shut up.

00:59:23.040 That's true.

00:59:23.580 I'm telling you.

00:59:24.440 It helped you.

00:59:24.900 Let's our next album be called Straight Women.

00:59:27.680 This is for you.

00:59:29.120 Please listen to this.

00:59:30.180 This is for you.

00:59:30.820 Yeah.

00:59:31.020 Give us ideas if any come to mind.

00:59:33.020 Well, honestly, well, mine was just absolutely fucking up any man I came across.

00:59:37.540 That worked for me.

00:59:38.600 I'm like, I could probably write some songs that were mean to me because I do have a history.

00:59:43.160 I'm like, I'm telling you.

00:59:44.380 I could probably dig into that a little bit.

00:59:45.500 Totally.

00:59:45.780 But our loyalty to the lesbians will not allow us to discuss these topics.

00:59:49.060 It'll say, it'll prioritize.

00:59:50.840 You'll prioritize the gays always.

00:59:52.960 Right.

00:59:53.380 You have to.

00:59:54.060 But that's complex as well because it's like, you know, the gay.

00:59:57.200 It's funny, like, if when we started writing music with, like, pronouns that were, like, she,

01:00:04.120 then, like, the gay men that listen to our music are, like, it's, like, straight when they sing it

01:00:10.680 versus if they, like, are singing along to a pop girl.

01:00:13.300 Well, that's gay when they sing about a boy.

01:00:14.800 It's gay when they, you know what I mean?

01:00:16.020 It's math.

01:00:17.040 It is math.

01:00:17.620 But gay guys love us.

01:00:19.100 We're trying, honestly, I think we want to, and this could totally be false, I think we

01:00:24.040 want to try to connect with our gay guy energy.

01:00:27.080 We want the gay guy pop star energy.

01:00:31.340 Totally.

01:00:31.720 You know what I mean?

01:00:32.220 Totally.

01:00:32.680 That's what, you know.

01:00:33.900 Yeah.

01:00:34.280 We're trying to be full cunt.

01:00:35.620 We're trying to unite the queer community at our shows.

01:00:38.880 Yeah, absolutely.

01:00:39.460 In a way that they are not united often.

01:00:41.740 Talk about intersectionality.

01:00:43.160 Right.

01:00:43.500 Legit.

01:00:44.000 Well, kind of.

01:00:44.620 I mean, like.

01:00:44.880 Yeah, true.

01:00:45.520 They, they.

01:00:46.200 That is the feat, for sure.

01:00:47.020 It is.

01:00:47.600 That is, like, kind of the prize for us of, like, doing what we do, is that it kind of

01:00:52.680 does feel like, one, a space, you know, like, gay bar culture is, like, primarily cis male

01:00:59.220 dominated and, like, not really a sapphic space.

01:01:03.460 Yeah, I, yeah, totally.

01:01:04.460 I see what you mean.

01:01:04.980 So, I mean, there obviously are, like, lesbian or sapphic bars, however you would say it, but

01:01:10.000 it's, they're fewer and further between.

01:01:12.140 Yeah.

01:01:12.280 And I think, like, the fun thing about our shows is, like, when you are at a show and

01:01:15.900 you look out, it's, like, there are definitely, like, the dykes turn out and we fucking love

01:01:20.140 them, and I am a dyke, and shout out to all the dykes, but, to me, I'm just saying, and

01:01:25.220 I can say that word.

01:01:27.240 You cannot tell me I can't say that word.

01:01:29.600 I know.

01:01:30.560 If you don't have that, what do you have?

01:01:32.300 I have nothing if I don't have that.

01:01:33.980 Don't take it away.

01:01:34.820 Let me have this one thing.

01:01:36.040 Come on, man.

01:01:37.120 Dyke is a gender.

01:01:38.560 That's my gender.

01:01:39.420 I love that.

01:01:40.200 It's true, dude.

01:01:40.940 Yeah, that's my sexual preference.

01:01:42.640 Hey, come on now.

01:01:44.200 Say that.

01:01:45.040 Say that, dirty.

01:01:46.680 Sandwich between two on the couch.

01:01:48.440 I love it.

01:01:49.020 I've really done something good with my life.

01:01:51.340 I know you have.

01:01:51.660 I think so.

01:01:52.200 I've done something clever.

01:01:53.060 You're living the dream.

01:01:53.720 God's divine plan works.

01:01:54.380 I said, I'm going to be taking my MIDI keyboard into the jam session.

01:01:58.140 Oh, I'm getting in there.

01:01:59.300 I would be getting in there.

01:02:00.480 I'll see you there.

01:02:01.080 Wherever you're at.

01:02:01.780 You don't even tell me the address.

01:02:02.780 I'll just show up.

01:02:03.920 This is all just to say, like, they're all, the whole LGBTQ plus spectrum is at the

01:02:10.840 moon of shows.

01:02:11.600 Absolutely.

01:02:12.180 They are.

01:02:12.620 It's diverse.

01:02:13.860 Period.

01:02:14.220 In that way, we love it.

01:02:15.220 And I love that.

01:02:15.860 And I, I, that's, that's, what's beautiful about y'all is that it's, even though y'all

01:02:19.960 have crossed over into mainstream now, um, y'all have stayed the same.

01:02:23.760 We're working on being even more mainstream.

01:02:25.840 You know what I mean?

01:02:25.980 Yeah.

01:02:26.020 You're reminding me of, um, okay.

01:02:28.280 Recently, I learned that the lyrics in Born This Way, like in that one section are, um,

01:02:34.140 no matter gay, straight, or bi, lesbian, transgender, lives, or something like that?

01:02:40.660 Life.

01:02:41.180 Life.

01:02:42.280 So, I just love, I just love that she did that.

01:02:45.540 I love that she took the, it's like LGBT community, but she did get straight in there.

01:02:52.400 Yeah.

01:02:52.840 And she knows what's good for her.

01:02:54.960 She threw him a bone.

01:02:55.780 Yeah.

01:02:56.120 Yeah.

01:02:56.360 She said, if I want to get on the radio, I've got to throw him a bone.

01:03:00.040 Yeah.

01:03:00.520 So, it's G-S-L, wait, G-S-B-L-T.

01:03:06.780 Oh, nice.

01:03:07.680 G-S-B-L-T.

01:03:09.220 G-S-B-L-T.

01:03:09.980 G-S-B-L-T, honey.

01:03:12.360 And Muna welcomes the G-S-B-L-T community.

01:03:16.720 I know, I don't know, I don't know if I was, but I was a straight person at your show.

01:03:20.760 Hell yeah.

01:03:21.400 Cosign.

01:03:21.880 There's more and more.

01:03:23.420 I'm sure.

01:03:23.980 I love that.

01:03:24.740 It's girls bringing their boyfriends.

01:03:27.500 Period.

01:03:27.920 I mean, I didn't bring, I left mine at home.

01:03:29.820 I said, bro, you stay the fuck home.

01:03:31.060 And Drew, that space is not for you.

01:03:33.220 I do feel that is respectful.

01:03:34.720 Absolutely.

01:03:35.620 Yeah.

01:03:35.780 Are you kidding?

01:03:36.380 I said, you stay home.

01:03:37.520 I'm not like.

01:03:38.080 I'm going out.

01:03:38.680 I'm not.

01:03:39.620 I don't really have too strong of a feeling like if, like a straight couple is making out

01:03:44.220 at the show.

01:03:44.800 And also, you never, you never really know.

01:03:46.680 We played a private gig once, um, way back in the day.

01:03:50.640 Oh my God.

01:03:51.060 And there was a straight, there was a straight couple during our song.

01:03:54.700 Having sex.

01:03:55.620 If you know, if you know the song, first of all, this is one of the darkest shows you

01:03:58.500 could have ever imagined us playing.

01:03:59.680 We were in Montauk.

01:04:00.420 It was so dark.

01:04:01.180 Which is like the, that's like the Hamptons.

01:04:03.260 And it was like a private gig that was going to allow us to like do a tour or whatever.

01:04:09.020 Okay.

01:04:09.640 Or do part, do part of a tour and not go fucking broke.

01:04:12.500 Yeah.

01:04:12.640 So we did this fucking show and there's this couple during our song winter break, which

01:04:18.440 was a sad breakup song.

01:04:19.920 Yeah.

01:04:20.320 Literally like high as fuck off cocaine.

01:04:23.500 I was going to say, like, it wasn't so much the grinding, throwing ass on this man.

01:04:29.780 Yeah.

01:04:30.080 They were really sweaty.

01:04:32.000 It's also sweaty.

01:04:33.760 They were so sweaty.

01:04:35.700 The only two on the dance floor.

01:04:37.360 Kind of.

01:04:38.080 In front of you.

01:04:38.560 Right in front.

01:04:40.200 Right here.

01:04:41.200 Like, it was so crazy.

01:04:43.620 So like, as long as people aren't doing that.

01:04:45.500 And I feel like it was the cocaine that really made them feel like what they were doing was

01:04:48.640 something beautiful.

01:04:49.400 They made, they made beautiful music together.

01:04:53.400 Yeah.

01:04:53.520 They made beautiful music together.

01:04:54.600 All y'all played beautiful music together.

01:04:56.020 Yeah.

01:04:56.460 God damn.

01:04:56.860 So nothing has really surpassed that level of.

01:04:59.040 That pissed me off.

01:05:00.480 I mean, you know what?

01:05:00.960 Gig over.

01:05:02.400 Check in the mail.

01:05:03.320 Thanks.

01:05:04.300 No, I left my boyfriend at home.

01:05:06.020 He, he said, what are you, where are you going?

01:05:07.420 And I was like, oh, I'm going to a concert with my sister and my friends.

01:05:10.520 And he was like, alone.

01:05:12.440 And I was like, yeah, I'm going to go see Muna.

01:05:14.920 And he was like, oh.

01:05:15.860 Enough said.

01:05:16.340 He's all, well, I kind of wanted to go.

01:05:17.800 I was like.

01:05:18.840 Okay.

01:05:19.260 Well, then you can go another time.

01:05:21.660 Next time.

01:05:23.360 Okay.

01:05:23.720 Well, not tonight.

01:05:25.740 But it's, nah, it's all right.

01:05:29.360 Fuck him.

01:05:29.980 He'll stay at home.

01:05:30.560 Just kidding.

01:05:32.140 Ladies, leave your man at home.

01:05:33.680 That felt for the girls.

01:05:34.740 Yeah.

01:05:35.080 Yeah.

01:05:35.340 Yeah.

01:05:35.440 Totally.

01:05:35.680 With the girls.

01:05:36.480 Those were the vibes.

01:05:37.820 I don't think I saw a straight man there.

01:05:39.300 Did y'all see a straight man there?

01:05:41.280 We make special.

01:05:41.900 We have a couple on stage.

01:05:43.400 Yeah, we do have a couple on stage.

01:05:44.660 I just have a couple on stage.

01:05:44.680 I just have a couple on stage.

01:05:44.820 I just have a couple of chagrin of many people in the audience.

01:05:47.020 Yeah.

01:05:47.580 People are praying.

01:05:48.840 They come out and they're like, boo.

01:05:50.500 People literally are like, are you sure that they're straight?

01:05:54.820 Well, it's like, our basis is extremely yoked.

01:05:56.600 He's like a bodybuilder, essentially.

01:05:58.620 Oh, nice.

01:05:59.240 He's a tease.

01:06:00.000 He's jacked in the way that all these guys are.

01:06:01.240 We also make him a tease.

01:06:02.560 We're like, wear that cutoff slut.

01:06:04.960 Yeah.

01:06:05.080 We put him in crop tops.

01:06:05.720 We put him in crop tops.

01:06:07.000 Yeah.

01:06:07.600 He loves it.

01:06:08.300 Yeah, he loves it.

01:06:09.100 And he loves it.

01:06:09.840 He loves it.

01:06:10.980 He does.

01:06:11.740 He does.

01:06:12.320 He's just asking for it.

01:06:13.520 I know.

01:06:14.060 Yeah.

01:06:14.420 He is.

01:06:14.920 Yeah.

01:06:15.100 Every time Ben tits out, I'm like, whore.

01:06:17.780 Yeah.

01:06:18.380 Fucking whore.

01:06:19.500 Fucking whore.

01:06:20.240 I'm going to objectify you, clearly.

01:06:21.540 I love that.

01:06:22.080 You want me to.

01:06:22.900 Clearly.

01:06:23.420 Yeah.

01:06:23.480 Yeah.

01:06:23.700 I can see your nipples.

01:06:25.960 You expect me to not do anything?

01:06:27.780 Not get hard when your nipples are out?

01:06:30.220 Jeez Louise.

01:06:32.060 Jizz.

01:06:32.760 Yeah.

01:06:32.960 Jizz.

01:06:33.280 Jizz.

01:06:33.400 Everywhere.

01:06:35.560 Jizz.

01:06:35.960 All right.

01:06:37.300 Just to wrap.

01:06:38.200 I would love if y'all could give us your best piece of advice for any other queer people

01:06:43.600 that are maybe want to get into music or maybe are currently music feeling discouraged.

01:06:47.320 Oh.

01:06:47.720 So curious what y'all's best piece of advice is for them.

01:06:51.680 I want to hear y'all's too.

01:06:53.100 So everyone has to do their own.

01:06:54.520 I would say, honestly, I think the only reason why we're actually successful is we never gave

01:06:58.960 up.

01:06:59.360 Totally.

01:07:00.160 I really think it's that.

01:07:01.660 I don't.

01:07:02.040 I think that's like just enough tenacity that it's like, if you don't quit,

01:07:05.200 you're going to make it through the door.

01:07:07.020 Totally.

01:07:07.600 That's really all my.

01:07:08.620 Yeah.

01:07:08.940 Especially thanks to artists like y'all.

01:07:10.580 Yeah.

01:07:10.780 Like holding open the door.

01:07:12.160 Stop it.

01:07:12.240 Like building it, opening it, and letting other people walk through it.

01:07:15.500 We're working the door as we speak.

01:07:17.340 Yeah.

01:07:18.020 They're making you work the door.

01:07:19.340 We're like, go, go, go, go.

01:07:20.240 You're inside.

01:07:20.980 They're still letting us in.

01:07:22.060 Go, go, go, go.

01:07:23.680 The door is, yeah.

01:07:25.180 The door.

01:07:25.820 Hit my clothes really soon.

01:07:27.440 I can't control this shit.

01:07:28.940 Go.

01:07:29.160 In this specific moment in time, it feels like the door is like only cracked.

01:07:31.980 It's cracked.

01:07:32.900 We're holding up with our foot like, come on.

01:07:34.200 Yeah.

01:07:34.480 Yeah.

01:07:34.780 Yeah.

01:07:35.640 I would, my piece of advice would be to find other queer people or like people who you feel

01:07:42.860 share like life experience with you.

01:07:47.180 Because I think for us, it was very important.

01:07:50.520 We knew what it was like for our like creative decisions and opinions to not be taken seriously.

01:07:56.160 Yeah.

01:07:56.480 Totally.

01:07:56.760 And you just need collaborators who take you seriously.

01:08:00.380 And understand.

01:08:01.440 Right.

01:08:01.660 Like your perspective.

01:08:02.860 Right.

01:08:03.100 And why you feel that way.

01:08:04.000 Exactly.

01:08:04.660 And like, that's more important, I think, than finding someone who has like some like modicum

01:08:09.380 of power already who can like take you up.

01:08:12.460 So it's like, just find people that you can relate to and then go up.

01:08:16.140 That will fight for you.

01:08:17.360 Yeah.

01:08:17.580 Exactly as you are.

01:08:18.820 Yeah.

01:08:19.140 Totally.

01:08:19.560 Totally.

01:08:19.580 Yeah.

01:08:19.640 Totally.

01:08:19.660 100%.

01:08:20.260 Yeah.

01:08:20.800 I don't know.

01:08:22.540 I have like a few different things.

01:08:24.720 I was going to say, use a good font.

01:08:26.760 Well, hey.

01:08:28.400 Yeah.

01:08:28.840 Um, you can say them all.

01:08:30.580 You know, what I was going to say is like, get pants that fit.

01:08:35.420 Yeah.

01:08:35.660 That is.

01:08:37.220 Don't let people tell you to wear bad clothes.

01:08:40.460 Totally.

01:08:40.900 You know, just try to, as, as authentically yourself as you can be, I think the more aligned

01:08:48.660 you are with that, the more like confident it will make you and the more sure of yourself

01:08:54.920 you, you will be going into other areas, aspects of, of your creative, um, pursuits.

01:09:02.180 But I would say like, if, if at all, if it, if it at all interests you to like, if you're

01:09:09.400 making pop music, if it at all is of interest to like, learn how to produce music, like do

01:09:18.500 it.

01:09:18.940 It's so useful to, even if you don't want to be the only producer on a song, it's

01:09:24.900 so useful to just know how to speak the language, how to ask for what you want and to have tools

01:09:32.460 that will come in handy as you, you know, proceed through other kinds of, you know, situations,

01:09:39.980 whether you're in sessions with other songwriters or producers, or whether you're, you, you're

01:09:45.080 mixing a song and like something's not right, but you don't, you want to know how to talk

01:09:49.060 about the things that like you have opinions on and have agency in those situations that

01:09:53.520 can behooves you.

01:09:55.000 So yeah, I think just having like an, even an elementary understanding of production

01:09:59.960 and, and mixing at the very least, just like to be able to ask for what you want from people,

01:10:05.360 even if you don't want to do the thing or you don't want to make beats and that's not

01:10:08.860 your passion, like to be able to understand, advocate for yourself.

01:10:12.860 Yeah.

01:10:13.340 Like be like learn the language.

01:10:15.300 Don't, don't, don't allow other people to make you feel powerless through their skill.

01:10:20.820 Like you have power and it's so easy to like learn some lingo to be able to talk your shit

01:10:27.800 when you're in the room with people.

01:10:28.980 Totally.

01:10:29.400 It's like that.

01:10:30.000 It's, it's just kind of a way to, you know, especially as if you're like already fighting

01:10:35.280 an uphill battle because y'all are queer artists and there's already not enough of them in mainstream

01:10:41.100 anything.

01:10:42.000 So being able to like advocate for yourself in those situations, that's tea.

01:10:45.940 Yeah.

01:10:46.320 Yeah.

01:10:46.600 And that works, I think across like any, it, it like behooves, I'm sure like someone who's

01:10:52.200 an actor to know a little bit about directing so that when they're on set, they know how

01:10:56.500 to better like be in front of the camera or like what someone might be looking for.

01:11:00.120 It just like, it's the same thing for all.

01:11:01.780 It just helps you add to your arsenal.

01:11:03.500 Just some literacy about other aspects of the field that you're in.

01:11:07.540 And even before y'all get to that point, you can actually do it yourself if you need to.

01:11:11.920 Yeah, exactly.

01:11:12.260 Like y'all said, y'all do it in-house a lot.

01:11:13.860 Yeah, yeah.

01:11:14.160 Yeah.

01:11:14.540 A hundred percent.

01:11:15.340 Period.

01:11:15.700 Look at y'all geniuses.

01:11:17.320 See, it's a thread.

01:11:18.640 And take care of your skin.

01:11:20.040 Red light, red light.

01:11:22.640 Get a red light mask.

01:11:25.020 Take care of your skin.

01:11:26.620 Go get your moles checked.

01:11:29.120 Totally.

01:11:29.760 Unrelated to music, but it's still very important.

01:11:32.500 Related to a music career.

01:11:33.580 More related than you think.

01:11:35.280 More related than you can ever imagine.

01:11:36.000 That's true.

01:11:36.780 Take care of your skin.

01:11:37.400 No need for Botox.

01:11:38.800 See?

01:11:39.460 Or sagging.

01:11:40.240 Worrying about sagging.

01:11:41.040 Yeah.

01:11:41.220 Yeah.

01:11:42.400 Jury's out on the Botox advice.

01:11:44.460 Come back in a little bit.

01:11:45.840 Yeah.

01:11:46.600 I'm not sure.

01:11:47.280 Well, thank y'all so much for coming on the show.

01:11:49.480 I adore y'all.

01:11:49.820 Thank you for having us.

01:11:50.500 Y'all are amazing and so talented and genius and necessary.

01:11:53.940 I'm so happy.

01:11:54.440 Thank you so much.

01:11:54.820 That y'all are in the industry.

01:11:55.840 I'm happy that y'all have the fame that y'all do and the status that you do.

01:11:59.580 I love to be famed.

01:12:00.300 Thank you.

01:12:00.580 We're looking for more.

01:12:02.480 So I'm so happy for y'all and excited and honored to have you on the show.

01:12:06.240 Oh, thank you.

01:12:06.880 Thank you.

01:12:07.500 And where can everybody find y'all?

01:12:10.380 Shit.

01:12:11.580 Where is Muna on everything?

01:12:14.380 M-U-N-A.

01:12:15.320 Yeah.

01:12:15.560 And our podcast is called Gaotic.

01:12:18.900 It's coming back.

01:12:19.780 I don't know when this is coming out.

01:12:21.800 Probably next week.

01:12:23.760 Our podcast, I think, is coming out.

01:12:25.640 Our third season is coming out.

01:12:27.540 March.

01:12:27.980 March 27th.

01:12:30.240 We are the best promoters of that.

01:12:32.080 They're like, I don't know when.

01:12:33.760 Sometimes in March.

01:12:34.740 Listen, it doesn't matter when.

01:12:36.480 Time is a flat circle.

01:12:37.620 Just write it down so you don't forget the name.

01:12:39.660 Yeah.

01:12:41.100 Gaotic, which is the way.

01:12:42.600 It's kind of a little bit like the way we've talked to each other on the couch today.

01:12:48.140 Yeah.

01:12:48.680 Period.

01:12:49.280 So make sure you'll stream Muna's music literally everywhere.

01:12:52.820 Yeah.

01:12:52.960 Play it while you go to sleep and have it on silent, but play it all night.

01:12:56.380 There you go.

01:12:56.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:12:57.340 Or don't have it on silent.

01:12:58.680 Yeah, or play it all out.

01:12:59.660 Learn to sleep with Muna.

01:13:00.740 Yeah, learn to sleep with Muna on.

01:13:02.160 There you go.

01:13:02.800 Exactly.

01:13:03.200 Rock you to sleep like a lullaby.

01:13:04.540 Sleep with Muna.

01:13:05.420 Sleep with Muna.

01:13:05.580 And do y'all want to plug your individual Instagrams or?

01:13:08.080 Sure.

01:13:08.360 Sure.

01:13:08.840 Fuck it.

01:13:09.280 Oh, slay.

01:13:09.980 Oh, slay.

01:13:11.100 My Instagram handle, because I'm so famous, is JojoLoveDog.

01:13:16.600 Yes, it is.

01:13:17.540 Mine is.

01:13:18.080 My Instagram handle is Katie Gavs.

01:13:24.540 G-A-V-S.

01:13:25.760 G-A-V-S.

01:13:26.960 I am Flirt Cobain.

01:13:29.660 F-L-U-R-T Cobain.

01:13:33.620 As in Cobain.

01:13:35.120 As in Cobain.

01:13:37.080 You know the one.

01:13:37.700 All your handles being gay is so funny.

01:13:41.340 If you couldn't tell, that should be a giveaway.

01:13:44.220 Yeah, fair enough.

01:13:45.660 Thank y'all so much for coming on the show.

01:13:47.020 Thank you.

01:13:47.500 Adore y'all.

01:13:48.080 I can't wait to see all of your continued success.

01:13:50.840 Oh, cheers.

01:13:51.240 And thank you all for joining us on this episode of the Comment Section Show.

01:13:54.380 Don't forget, new episodes drop every Wednesday.

01:13:56.700 You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, or you can watch the video, which

01:14:00.040 is always and exclusively on Spotify, our favorite platform.

01:14:03.460 Thank you so much to Muna.

01:14:04.580 Thank you so much to all of you.

01:14:06.580 And I'll see you next week.

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