CRAVING STABILITY FINANCIALLY Ft. Grace Kuhlenschmidt | Episode 161
Summary
Grace Coolidgeman is a standup comedian, writer, and all-around funny human being. She's been on Comedy Central, The Office, and The Office Live, and she's here to tell us about it. Grace also tells us about how she came out as gay, and how she found out she was gay.
Transcript
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Hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring
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me, your fave. Everybody knows me, who cares about me. On to the guests. Today we have
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the iconic, the hilarious, the unbelievable Grace Coolidgeman. Woo! Keep going. Yeah, right.
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I know, that's how I jerk everybody off. What other adjectives do you have for me?
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You guys have about 10 written down. Stunning, gorgeous, amazing. Oh, thank you. Never been
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done before. No, whoa. Cool. Yeah, right. I'm really, really happy to be here. I'm so happy
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to have you. I was so kind of honored and shocked. Honored and shocked? Why? Oh, my self-esteem
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is so low. I bet I'd never be asked on a podcast. Okay. You've been on many. No, but I really
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was like, whoa, this is so fun. Oh, I'm so glad. I'm glad to hear that. You are so funny
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that I really am flattered. Thank you. I find you equally, if not more, funny than me, personally.
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I love saying, I find you equally funny. Equally funny. Just as. No more, no less.
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Don't test it. I did want to say, I literally was playing your clip. I favorited it, actually,
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when you were on Caleb's and you were talking about, um, being a softball player. You were
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saying like, I was so convinced I was straight. I mean, yeah, there, no part of me thought I was
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gay. Yeah. Not a single part. When did that come to fruition, you think? It actually hit me like a
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brick one day. Really? I was in college and my friend texted me, hey, my friend has a crush on you.
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She's a girl. And I was like, oh, I'm gay. But like, and she was like, do you want to hook up
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with her? And I was like, no, actually, she's not really my type. You just discovered and you're
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all, that's rude that you would assume. But that girl like actually made me gay, even though I was
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like completely uninterested in her. It just never crossed my mind to be gay. Right. You just never
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really saw it like that? No. Did you ever have crushes or anything? On boys, plenty. I do think
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there might've been a best friend I was in love with in high school. It's so funny
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because that's like my sister's story too. Is it? My sister's a lesbian, honestly.
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But I, again. Not obviously. Not all sisters are lesbians. You're right. Not all older sisters
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are lesbians. But mostly because I always bring up the fact that my sister's a lesbian. And
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I said that it's the hidden Mickey in all my episodes. It's like when I bring up her. And
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the fact that almost all my entire team are gay. So like, you know. I love that. When I
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told Chapo that she's like, I can tell. And I was like, clocked dirty fast. Fast, bitch. Shit. Damn.
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Yeah. Chapo's like the jealousy in your eyes. You want to be gay so fucking bad.
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Your brain, your body just won't let you. She's like, the pheromone, the smell is coming from
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outside. I can smell from what I got out of my car. But that's, that's so funny you say that
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because I had no crushes at all when I was younger. Like none. On anyone? Anyone at all.
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Like I had like a few celeb crushes. Like I was a big Jonas Brother girl.
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Oh. So who was your guy? Mine was Nick. Which I feel like is the straight
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sister. Whoever loves Nick is like, well, yeah.
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Why? Because he's the hottest? Naturally? No, I feel like the pipeline from Joe. You're like,
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because a lesbian wouldn't have a crush on a really hot guy.
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It's always Joe or they, or they don't want to pick any of them. So they pick Kevin.
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Right, sure. Like that's like kind of, I think, that pipeline that goes that way.
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Were you proud to be a Nick head? Yeah. Yes, I was. I was very proud. I was so proud,
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in fact, that I did like a home ec, like kind of unit once in middle school. I think it was in
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eighth grade. And we had to do flower babies, right? Like, like a 10 pound sack of flower.
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And we had to like carry it around like it was a baby. We had to dress it, name it, all of that.
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And so we got to pick our marital status like out of a bowl. And I really wanted to be single
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because I wanted to control all of it. Like I was like, I want to name my kid.
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I want to like, and I was like super like, like a lot about you probably. Right. Me being neurotic.
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And of course I got married and I got married to this kid in my class. And I remember his name
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was Freddie. And I was like, Freddie, listen to me. Um, this is what's going to happen next.
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This baby is named after Nick Jonas. If you have any questions about that, you let me know.
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Right. And he was like, I don't care. So I named the baby.
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Like I actually don't want to be in the baby's life. I seriously, like you can tell anyone that
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anyone else's dad's sperm donor. I don't give a fuck. He's like, that baby doesn't even look like
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me. So nice try. And honestly, I named it Nicholas Jerry Jonas. That's literally what I named it.
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Is Jerry Nick Jonas's real middle name? Yes, it is. Really? Yeah. And I would know because I was
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obsessed with him. Right, right, right. But other than like him, and I think I had a thing for Corbin
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Blue too. Well, that makes perfect sense. Those other than those two. They have the same kind of
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like cuteness, hotness combo. Right. Don't you think? Yeah. And I'm like a long hair girl. I
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figured that out later in life. But like, I love long hair on a man. And I felt like they had the
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longest hair I could see at the time. On Disney Channel, that was like, whoa. They had to come in
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every day and get like two snips. It's looking a little fucking girly. Hey, long, that long of a hair
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is for girls. So go ahead and tighten that up. Exactly. But I had no crushes. And my sister had
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a crush on everyone. Like every man possible. Right. To the point where sometimes I was like,
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what are you talking about? I, well, you know, that might, cause I feel similar. Right. Like I was
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like, I have a crush on Nick. Oh, fuck. Nick has a crush on my best friend. Okay. Who's next? Who's next?
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Like I always had to have someone else. You had to have someone. Yeah. Yeah. I had a roster
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basically. A roster of guys who wanted nothing to do with me. And, but it was like important
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to me thinking that I was straight. Right. It's like something to hold on to. But you
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know, even when I like talk to people about like when I was closeted, it comes off sad.
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And I really want to like emphasize, like it was not sad for me. Like I so didn't know
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I was gay that it was not like, I don't look back on it. And I'm like, I had to have a crush
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on a guy. I really was like, no, I wanted to. And I was happy, happy, happy. Yeah. I was like,
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sure. Right. Yeah. It's almost like living in ignorance. Yeah. And then being gay was like,
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oh, this is actually gonna be a lot easier for me. Yeah. It just made it, you're like, oh,
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and the pieces kind of, that's kind of how it is when we, when my sister and I laugh about it now,
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because like I, there were no real signs outside of her having a million crushes on only men.
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Right. Um, there were like, so sad. That's the gayest thing you can do.
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Yeah. Right. We need to inform middle school girls. Don't have too many crushes. Otherwise,
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I'm gonna start calling you. That's the real gay agenda. What I would laugh about then now when
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I look back is that my sister really, really loved the movie Lemonade Mouth. And objectively
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speaking, that movie is terrible. That movie is like, is Demi Lovato in it? No, Hayley
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Kiyoko's in it. So, you know, um, and, and I remember cause like, she doesn't really like
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musicals and there's a lot of music in that movie. The movie itself objectively is terrible.
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Like the storyline makes no sense, but Hayley Kiyoko was new on the scene. Yep. And I remember
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she wanted to watch it so often. And at one point I genuinely remember looking at her and going,
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why do you like this movie so much? Do you have something you want to tell me?
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And I, and I truly, I, I had no concept of that. Like I was literally just like,
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what is it with you in this? And then she was, she literally was like, I don't know. I just think
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it's good. That's what she would always tell me. And I'm like, you're a liar. You're like three words.
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I'm a lesbian. Say it. I have like that interrogation lighting on her. Do you have something you want
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to say to me? That's why I looking back, it's hilarious. So Lemonade Mouth. Yeah. It's a movie with
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Hayley Kiyoko. Yeah. She's like a main character. I always wondered, and that's Disney. Yes. I always
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wondered how, where she came about. Like onto the scene. Yeah. I knew she was Disney, but I didn't
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know it was a movie. It was like that movie. And then she became like, I think she was a side
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character in like Wizards of Waverly Place, which like her character in that, gay. Okay. I actually
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read something. First time for everything. I read something that said that apparently the creator,
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and I can't, I can't tell you where I read this at all. I'm frankly, yeah, it could have
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been a TikTok, but apparently the creator of Wizards of Waverly Place wanted Selena and
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Hayley to like date in the show. Right. Right. Okay. I did see that TikTok also about that.
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All right. Fuck you. It was a scientific article I read. I think it was the Washington Post that
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wrote this. No, I actually did see that too. And I, and it would make a lot of sense. So that's
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the only thing I remember her from is from Lemonade Mouth. And then she did that. And
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then I'm sure she did other things too, but now she does music obviously, but looking
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back makes a lot of sense. Yeah. It's a pretty, I mean, to go immediately from liking boys to
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Hayley Kiyoko, I think it's pretty, it's pretty hard left. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then it's
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like all, it's all the pieces fall to like in place. When I look at it in that lens, I'm
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like, yeah, that does make sense. But then I think that's why I thought maybe that might
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be the case for me because I never had crushes, but it wasn't because I didn't find men attractive.
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It's just like, they genuinely enraged me. Well, for sure. And even now, and like recently
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I was talking to my, I was actually talking to my fiance about this first and then I was
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telling my sister about it, but I was like, sometimes when, when men like specifically
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a very specific kind of like cis straight man, when they want to be sexy, like they want
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to be perceived as sexy, it incites a rage in me that is borderline tangible. Like, and I'm,
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I'm so serious. I feel like a bad person. I sometimes, I'm, I'm so serious. I brought it up
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in therapy because I was like, sometimes I think something's wrong with me. But that's why Nick
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Jonas was an easy crush to have because he never tried to be sexy. He just had diabetes. Right.
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And you know what? That's all I needed. And that was his like sexy quirk.
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That's crazy. That's true. There you go. Not trying too hard. No, exactly. You don't need
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that much attention. No, just get a diagnosis. Okay. How old were you when your sister came
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out to you? I initially I've talked about it and this is like kind of a bummer, but I wasn't
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as receptive as I wished I was, but not because I thought it was gross. It's just like, I couldn't
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believe she didn't tell me because when she did tell me, she was like fully in a relationship
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with someone already. And every week she was at college, I was like, are you dating anyone?
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Are you talking to anyone? Like constantly I was asking her and she's always like, nope,
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nope, nope. And then she was living this whole other life. Yeah. You have to do that sometimes.
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Right. And I'm glad she did. And I joke, we joke about it now because like I got into the
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same school she went to. She went to U of O, the university of Oregon. And I got into that school
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too. And my mom was like, oh, you guys could go to the same school. And I was like, I think I want
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to go to a different school. And like, we both kind of were like, we should go to separate colleges
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so we can like grow and all that. And she tells me when I was like entertaining it, she was like,
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oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. Cause she's living a double life. She's like, I need to be a
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secret lesbian and this does not go according to plan. I was like, she's being Hannah Montana. So I'm
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like, so when she did come out to me, initially I didn't handle it the way I wish I did.
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But then obviously I was like, I am a dumbass. I don't care. I don't care at all. I'm happy
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for you. I'm happy you're happy. And so after that, it was fine. Like we were totally fine
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after that. It's funny too. Cause like even like the way like my dad found out, like my
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dad was like, I don't care. Just do good in school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't care about
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that. Right. Just do good in school. See then that's actually beautiful. That is all that
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matters. Right. At the end of the day. I did poorly in school. So damn, you're looking
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at a double whammy then. So actually fuck. Should I call my dad? I do want to ask you
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like what were, did you always want to be in comedy and entertainment? Did you always want
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to do that? Or did you kind of find it along the way? Like I went into college, just like
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a little backstory. Like I really always had bad grades, like always. And going into college,
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like my senior year, I had this college advisor who was like, getting into schools is going
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to be really hard for you. So we're kind of looking at like, you know, no offense, but
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like University of Arizona, he was like, that's a place where like you can go. He's like, you're
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a wildcat. I can sense that by you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was like, but this is so random.
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My best friend, you really remind me of him. And he went to this school. Of him? Yes. He went
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to the school Skidmore College and you will be like the dumbest person there, but you
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should apply and just see. Right. And so I applied early decision, which is like a binding
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admission, which is basically like if you're like really fingers crossed, that's what you
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would do. Right. And I ended up getting in there. Damn. I'm going to that school and they
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had a comedy program there. Oh, nice. So it happened really seamlessly, but I went into college
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thinking I was actually going to be a neuroscience major. I failed out of neuroscience about seven
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weeks into the class. Neuroscience, bad grades? I, well, so the class was graded on two exams
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or no, three exams. The first exam I got a 34%. So the teacher like sat me down and was like,
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so you have to get like at least an 80 on the next test. And I was like, no problem. And I was like
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sobbing to him being like, I don't know what went wrong. Like I really like come to this class
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every day. And he was like, well, what's your study routine? And I was like, you said you're
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trying to change the subject. And that's, yeah, I was like, I've thought of doing note cards.
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And he was like, well, like, have you just like read the textbook? And I was like, I haven't bought
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the textbook. So I was kind of fucked there. And then the second exam, I'm thinking maybe you're
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like, maybe I'm like goodwill hunting. And I just like, that's a little bit. Well, to be fair,
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I do have, I do have a brother who is kind of like freak genius. And so I was kind of like,
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that's going to hit me and me day. I love the undying confidence of like, well, obviously brain
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surgeon. Yes. Like I need to study thorough pathways. I mean, it's just so insanely dumb.
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Like that, that major is so hard. Like you're literally becoming, yeah, it's just was really
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cuckoo. Anyways, got a 50% on the second exam. So automatically had to withdraw. Damn. And then I,
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I just, I ended up majoring in psychology, but of course I've done nothing with that. But, um,
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and of course that's helped me none. I'm honestly one of the few like dickheads on the internet that I
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think my degrees kind of play a role a little bit. Okay. What were they? I was journalism and
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communications. That is true though. I'm a liberal arts girl to my core. You know what I'm saying?
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Like I was like math, science, fuck that shit. Right. Right. And I remember when I was in college,
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like when I first met with my advisor, like my freshman year, I'm a Virgo to my fucking core.
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Like I'm so neurotic. It's insane. I was literally, I never ditched a class until I was a senior.
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Oh my God. And it was the end of my senior year. And it was purely because I just didn't have to go
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if I didn't want to. Whoa. And then my sister was like, I've been ditching the entire time. And I
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go, what the fuck? I've been following the goddamn rules and you've been doing that. Granted, I was
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getting fucked up when I was underage. Do as I say, not as I do. Right. But like, I was super into
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school. I just loved going to school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love going to school. See, I think I liked the
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idea of school, but to me, it wasn't that I was ditching classes. I was too hung over to go to class.
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So medically incapable. No, completely. Exactly. Did you do theater?
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Anything in college? No, I just did comedy. So it's really weird. This school, unbeknownst to
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me, like I didn't go to the college for it, but there's like a huge comedy program there. That's
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cool. So I was in like an improv and sketch group. And then how was that? Amazing. I'm just being
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honest. We can like shit on improv groups all we want. It was some of the most fun times of my life.
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It's funny because when Sabrina Breyer was on and we talked about it, she said, Oh, I saw some
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clips of her talking about improv. We talk about improv because she was the president of her
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improv group in college. And she told me, and she goes, I go, I'm glad how you, you made sure to
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tell me you were the president. She goes, you know, it's funny. It's like, I joked about it with Caleb
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and we laughed and we were like, Oh, that's so embarrassing, but I am really proud of you guys.
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That's exactly what it is. Of your time serving. Because I'm like, I think that actually made me,
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me. I don't know who I would be without yes anding some of my closest friends.
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I know. I'm like, I, I'm going to take acting classes and stuff this year because I'm going to
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try to like, but I did do theater classes like in high school and I did them in college. Cause
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those were just like fun ones for me, but I love doing it. Like I had so much fun doing it.
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Amazing. And I, there was a section of my theater class in college that we did, which was all improv.
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So we did like a whole unit on improv and like, you know, they, you pick a character and like,
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that's the character you are. And I remember we picked one and like my best character was a drunk
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bitch. Like I was like a really drunk girl and I, and it killed every time. And I remember every
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time I did it, every time I got a laugh, I'd be like, fucking got him. I'm walking in my purpose.
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There's also something cute about like that age when you're doing stuff, because it's like,
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I actually found like an old sketch that I wrote in college and I like could not figure
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for the life of me, figure out where the jokes were. I was like reading through this, like
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maybe that part would have gotten a laugh. Like I have no clue, but I know when I performed
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And I did, um, like in the theater class too, we did like a unit on like more serious stuff
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like plays and all that. Um, and my final for that class was doing a monologue, like
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a dramatic monologue. And it had to be at least like two minutes long or something like that.
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And so you had to block it and all that shit. And then we performed it on the stage in front
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of our class at the end of the semester. And I did the monologue from Fences of that Viola
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Davis in Denzel Washington. It's like when she's like, well, I've been standing with you.
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Like that one, I did that intense ass scene. Like it didn't have to be that. Like it could
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have been anything like, you could do a monologue from Pitch Perfect. You're like Fences it is.
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I said, I'm thinking fences. I'm thinking fences. That's what's calling me. But I had
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a blast. I loved doing it. When did you start doing standup? Did you start doing it while
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you were in college or after? Um, after, so after college moved to Chicago, which is where
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I met Caleb. Right. And I did, I did stand up like three times before the, before the pandemic.
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Oh, okay. So after the pandemic, I had this like huge platform and was, could like sell
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out a show. And I was like, cool, this is my fourth fucking time doing standup. No one else
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knows that. Yeah. Um, but I think the first standup show I did was with Caleb. Oh, nice.
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And I don't do mine too. Really? Yeah. But I've only done one. You've done it now. Yeah. But only
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one. And it was a five. So like, as in five minutes. Yeah. What's wrong with that? It's just
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the baby is five. Like it's, yeah, but who cares? And he didn't tell me to like, got there that
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Chris Fleming was the other opener. And I was like, well, thank God I went first.
00:20:20.460
Shit. Obviously I'd go first, but thank God. Chris Fleming is like.
00:20:24.820
Unbelievably funny. If I could, I would like slice open the top of his head and just look
00:20:29.700
inside. I know. Chris Fleming randomly went to my college as well. See, we were not there
00:20:35.100
at the same time. It's turning out. Yeah. Obviously. Cause he's a hundred, but. Yeah. Cause
00:20:38.640
he's a hundred. I'm four and a half years old. Super mature. My body is specifically very
00:20:44.700
mature for my age, but. Well, he and I were built the same, but he's way older than me.
00:20:48.780
Like, uh, no, I know that's crazy. I didn't know he went to your guys. That would make
00:20:52.700
sense. That makes a lot of sense in my head. Yeah. You didn't know that he went to my college
00:20:55.840
and do that research before. You didn't look up all the alumni from my college. I didn't
00:21:00.100
know they were turning out greats like that at your school. I need to look into Skidmore
00:21:03.460
a little bit more. So when you first started doing it, then how did it go when you first
00:21:07.460
started doing your standup? Okay. I have a video from the first time I did standup and there's
00:21:12.540
laughter, but mostly I hear five of my friends in the audience, like they're laughing in a
00:21:18.260
way that's basically going. Like they're like, and I'm like, Oh, and you're saying, and you're
00:21:28.220
literally like, you're like, I know for a fact that's my, that's my tribe. They were doing
00:21:31.900
me a favor there, but it was fine. I've always been like semi funny. Like I don't think, I
00:21:38.040
think if I start crying a little bit, I've always been a little bit funny, but I think
00:21:47.120
if I ever really bomb on stage, it's because I'm like not feeling well or not feeling like
00:21:53.320
confident going on stage. That's honestly tea. That's all it is. I think that's tea. Cause
00:21:57.920
I, I, I've ran from standup for a while because I'm, I have told, I've told my team this because
00:22:05.060
my manager's like, please, please, please, please. Um, but like, I feel like, first of all,
00:22:10.360
it's an art form and I love it. I love standup so much. So that's why I'm like, well, I'm not like
00:22:14.480
that. Right. And if I'm not the best, I'm not doing it. That's like how I feel. I'm like, I'm not
00:22:18.840
going to try if I'm not the best. Um, but I feel like it is purely a confidence thing. Cause I've
00:22:24.480
always known I'm funny. I know I'm funny, but like that doesn't always translate. And I don't
00:22:29.460
want to be one of those guys that like, they make comedy videos on YouTube and then they start doing
00:22:33.640
standup and it's like, it's fucking horrible. Yeah. But you already can't be one of those guys
00:22:38.240
because no offense in case you don't know, you're not a straight white guy. So what already you're
00:22:45.220
going to be fine. Like anytime I think like, Oh, this could come off obnoxious. I'm like, yeah,
00:22:50.440
but I'm not, I'm not just another like dude who's trying to do comedy. Yeah. They're
00:22:55.920
like blind confidence. That's why I think that white straight guys have the hardest time in
00:23:00.080
the comedy scene. Right. That's true. They're so underrepresented. Exactly. They don't have
00:23:04.020
enough people in media to look at and idolize. No, not at all. Not at all. This is my favorite
00:23:10.200
question to ask, like standup people who do standup that are not straight white guys. But
00:23:15.320
like, have you ever gotten advice from a audience member? Like after a set? Um, I always like to
00:23:23.500
ask women, especially because sometimes when they do, they do lineups or cards with other dudes and
00:23:28.880
they're all like older, even if she goes and kills, they'll be like, have a couple notes for you.
00:23:34.040
Oh my God. Which is crazy, but maybe it's because you're doing better shows. No, I think it's because
00:23:39.020
I perform in like a queer scene. That's what I mean. Like it's so, yeah, yeah, yeah. The environment
00:23:44.160
is completely different. Yeah. Like I really feel like when I'm on a lineup, there's maybe one
00:23:51.160
straight person on the show and I've kind of made that happen for myself. I love that. That's
00:23:55.900
beautiful. There's plenty of amazing shows that happen in Manhattan, but I really don't do them
00:24:00.680
because I'm like in Brooklyn. I know my people and that's going to be fun. That's so true. And very,
00:24:06.700
I think it helps a lot with the experience. I think when you're trying to like get your feet wet
00:24:11.300
because you're performing in spaces that want you there, but also like that understand your
00:24:15.280
humor. Well, that's the thing is like, sure. Maybe it would be good experience for me to like
00:24:19.720
go do a show in Manhattan for like exclusively straight people, but that's not really who I'm
00:24:24.460
aiming to get after anyway. That's what I mean. Yeah. So it's when we'll, and it's like, we have
00:24:29.720
different POVs, different lives. And that's, it's funny you say that because when I did Caleb's,
00:24:34.840
I explicitly told him I didn't want to advertise that I was going to be there because I was like,
00:24:38.280
I, I don't want it to be my fans. Not that I don't think there will be any people who don't
00:24:42.180
like me there, but like, I want to find out for real if I'm funny. Like, I love that. And I was
00:24:46.280
like, so I'd rather like kind of cold plunge it than be like, fill the seats with people who
00:24:51.540
actually love me and they'll laugh at anything I say. I really want to know if I'm funny. And he
00:24:55.100
was like, I admire that about you. That's great. And so I did it in front of his fans, which
00:24:58.840
there's a lot of crossover, but not too. Yeah, of course. And so I think it did pretty well. It didn't,
00:25:03.560
it didn't go poorly. Fuck yeah. Yeah. So I was like, so it went pretty well and I was exciting.
00:25:07.340
I was going to do another show like later, later on, like much, much later. But then as I got
00:25:13.480
closer to it, I started thinking like, I don't think the crossover of audience is going to mesh
00:25:19.620
well because a lot of my jokes are about white people. And like, if I'm performing to an exclusively
00:25:25.180
cis straight white room, it's not going to hit the same. Even if the jokes are well-written,
00:25:30.140
they may not react the same. Yeah. But that is going to be a problem of the audience and not your
00:25:35.580
problem. That's true. Because I know people who do like a lot of jokes that are fucking like
00:25:41.020
perfect jokes about the white people in the audience being stupid. And I've seen it. Like
00:25:47.540
there's this one comedian who I know who I've done been on lineups with her before. Yeah. And
00:25:51.400
she's done it in front of audience that have like laughed so much. Yeah. And then in front of audience
00:25:55.520
who like honestly get stiff. Yeah. And it's like, you guys chill the fuck out. Like it's a comedy
00:26:02.640
show. Like we're meant to laugh. And we're not like going to leave here and be like, all right,
00:26:07.040
like everybody, like there's no, like nothing's happening after the show. You can go back to your
00:26:12.880
regular life. Yeah. It's like, it's escape for a second. And also they're not, they're not jokes
00:26:17.880
that are punching down in any way. Right. Which is crazy because in the same audience that doesn't
00:26:21.840
react well to a joke like that would laugh really hard at a racist joke or a homophobic joke. Oh,
00:26:26.460
of course. And I was like, well, you guys are going to chuckle at that, but you're not going to laugh at mine.
00:26:29.640
All right. I know. Whatever. Okay. One thing that I thought of about your question earlier,
00:26:35.720
my aunt who is about 85, she told me, she was like, so Grace, I watched your videos and none of
00:26:45.020
them make me laugh. And it just got me thinking the lesbian stuff is fine, but I'm wondering when
00:26:53.920
are you going to start making comedy for people above 70? And you know what? Clocked your teeth.
00:26:59.940
She said that. So as if, as if I've been having meetings with my team, like, I don't know if
00:27:06.320
this is landing for 70 and above. Did we, did we ask AARP? I'm like, babe, you can barely turn on
00:27:13.620
Netflix. I'm not, you're just not the demographic I'm going for. Hey, noted. Thank you. I appreciate it.
00:27:20.600
Thank you. When are you going to start making her going? Lesbian stuff. Okay. It's just also just
00:27:27.200
me doing like fully like age, um, age discrimination jokes. How's your wheelchair?
00:27:37.040
Bullying old people. I make old people jokes a lot. Like, especially when I'm like, uh, with older
00:27:43.880
comics, like if we're doing something, like I did something with that involved older comics and it was,
00:27:48.520
I made a few old people jokes and I honest to God, I felt like they were a little like
00:27:54.380
offended to which I'm, and I'll tell you who they are after. Okay. They're like old heads in the comedy
00:27:59.360
circle. Like they've been around for a long ass time. And I was like, I made one joke about you
00:28:04.940
guys being fucking old. And all of a sudden I lost the room. It's just you guys. Yeah. And it felt
00:28:09.820
weird. Cause they're all like for real standups. I'm just a dickhead on the internet. So it's like,
00:28:13.740
okay. I hate, don't do that to yourself though. Because to me, there are so many standups who
00:28:20.620
are like really bitter. Yeah. And even though I feel like I do stand up a good amount, I still
00:28:25.800
feel like there are standups who see me and are like, you're just a fucking internet personality.
00:28:30.080
Yeah, exactly. Which is bullshit. And I'm kind of like, you're fucking jealous. Yeah, exactly. You are
00:28:34.960
fucking jealous that I have been able to figure out another section of comedy that you literally can't
00:28:41.460
do because even though you have 500,000 followers, your videos get 300 likes. So I'm sorry.
00:28:49.400
I know that, that never ending debate of that is, is upsetting to me. Cause I'm like,
00:28:53.780
first of all, you're a comic that started utilizing the internet. That's a very different
00:28:57.700
thing from being like a sketch comedy creator. Like those are two very different things to me.
00:29:02.920
Right. Like I once saw someone write something cause they always associate me, Caleb and Brittany.
00:29:06.700
Like they're always like, Oh, the funniest, whatever. I love these episodes. And which is fine. I get it.
00:29:10.900
Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Oh yeah. I love them. I love them. I'm so sorry. We just talked about
00:29:14.880
myself. Um, but someone said like, Oh, I love that the internet like has created people like
00:29:21.400
drew Caleb and Brittany. And I said, don't you let Caleb see that comment. He's going to be pissed.
00:29:27.260
I was born on the internet. Yes, that is true. Does that mean I, I wasn't funny till I got on there?
00:29:31.960
No. But like, obviously me and Brittany started differently than Caleb. Right. I was like,
00:29:35.800
don't you let him see that comment. He's going to hate that. Well, but you started by, cause you were,
00:29:40.460
you'd been posting and then some stuff of yours blew up. Right. Yeah. Just roasting dudes.
00:29:45.300
Well, how does Caleb tell you his career started?
00:29:49.620
I'm like, I'm like him in the comedy scene. Like him actually doing standup.
00:29:52.600
Okay. That's fair. That's fair. Cause he hates the internet. Um, like he hates the internet.
00:29:56.440
He hates the internet. So that's why. And I, I love it. And I always encourage more people to follow me.
00:30:02.100
Speaking of, I know, same. That's why. And I, and I agree with you too on that point. Cause it feels like,
00:30:07.780
um, that happens to me sometimes when I go in to like do TV things or anything that's not internet
00:30:14.060
based. Um, it's always like, so you're like on tech talk. And I'm like, yeah, that is. Yeah. That
00:30:19.500
is how I grew up. Yeah. I always, cause I'm not ashamed of it, but I'm also like, you're using that
00:30:23.680
to look down on me. And that's weird. Like you're just mad. Cause we're in the same room. I got
00:30:27.520
recognized on the subway like a year ago by someone across the subway car. So approximately 40
00:30:33.680
people in between us goes, you're on Tik TOK. And I was like, I need to get in the middle of,
00:30:41.720
I need to go under the train. I need to die right here. This is horrible. Yeah. It's yeah. It's
00:30:47.840
pretty bad. It really, and just for 40 strangers to know, then look at me and go, that person is on
00:30:54.180
Tik TOK. Oh, it killed me. Killed me. I, one time I was somewhere in this, uh, I forget where the
00:31:01.500
fuck I was. And people were coming up to me, like, like two or three people came up to me and
00:31:05.880
said, they love my stuff and they wanted to take a picture with me. And I was like, yeah, sure. And
00:31:09.920
I said, hi to them. There was this older dude next to me. And then like these three people leave.
00:31:14.280
And then he goes, what are you fucking famous or something? He's like, I'll take a picture too.
00:31:19.740
Why not? And I've had that too. I've had that too. I've had men be like, I don't know who the fuck
00:31:24.080
this is. And then take a picture with me. And I'm like, you don't need that. No. And when he said
00:31:29.460
that to me, I go, no, not really. Oh my God. There's nothing like, especially older people,
00:31:35.320
like explaining it to them is, I know, is truly, I once in an interview got asked, like, how do you
00:31:40.120
explain to like grandparents what you do for a living? And then I go, typically that conversation
00:31:45.800
goes, um, I just make fun of dudes on the internet and then they go, they pay you to do that. And then
00:31:51.240
I go, yep. And then that's where it ends. Yep. They pay me. Yeah. And that's it. I was like,
00:31:57.580
they have no further questions after that. There's nothing else really to talk about after
00:32:01.360
that. I saw a video of my muse, Shawn Mendes, where this guy comes up to him and a big, oh
00:32:09.560
yeah, yeah, yeah. Senorita. All of those things. What's another song? Stitches. I was about
00:32:17.100
to say Havana and I'm like, that's actually Camila Cabello. His ex-girlfriend. Yes. What
00:32:21.880
the fuck is wrong with me today? Take my mic. Um, a video of him and this guy comes up to him
00:32:29.540
and it's like, can I get a picture? And he literally is like, who am I? And the guy was
00:32:34.180
like, um, um, and he was like, do you know who I am? Or you just think I'm a famous person
00:32:38.900
so you want to take a photo with me? Damn. And the, I know. Damn. Okay. Shawn Mendes. I thought
00:32:43.600
that was awesome. That is so awesome. I love that. Right. I think that's great. I can't even
00:32:47.600
tell you. There was, I did a thing, um, with Dylan Mulvaney. I, I like did a little book
00:32:53.440
signing thing with her. I, I moderated it for her at the Grove this past weekend. And
00:32:58.240
so like at the end of the day, when I was leaving this, this woman came up and she was
00:33:02.760
like, I fucking love you. I fucking love you, dude. To you or to Dylan? Yeah, to me. Okay.
00:33:07.560
That's exactly how she said it. And then she walked away and I said, thank you. And she walked
00:33:12.000
away. And then when we walked away, my fiance goes, that lady was in Barnes and Noble. And
00:33:17.080
I was like, Oh, was she at the little talk thing? And he was like, no, she walked by.
00:33:21.180
And I remember because I, I was standing, he was like standing in the back and she walked
00:33:25.680
by and she was like, Oh my God, I fucking love that girl. She's on TikTok again. She
00:33:29.700
has not said my name once. So I know she doesn't know it. So she's like, and then she goes, Oh
00:33:35.120
my God, I fucking love her. And then someone goes, who? She goes, the girl with the mic.
00:33:38.540
Like I in the black jacket. Oh my God, she's so funny. And my fiance is just, she doesn't
00:33:43.160
see him. And so she says that. And then she goes, God, she's like way better looking
00:33:48.220
in person. And then she just turns and leaves. And then my fiance told me that. And then she
00:33:52.840
came up to me later and told me, I fucking love you. And then he tells me that whole story
00:33:57.080
and I'm like, nice. And I go, and you know what's funny is, that was the third time I
00:34:00.960
heard that that day. Yeah. Right. So I was like, right, right, right, right, right. Love
00:34:05.240
that. Thanks guys. Appreciate you. I don't know if you ever get things like that from
00:34:09.160
the internet. Yeah, of course. People who just, they say, it's almost like all rational
00:34:14.080
thought leaves. I think like maybe 10 plus times someone has said to me, I love you.
00:34:21.580
What's your name again? It's like really like, and I'm like, Grace, they're like, yes, are
00:34:29.600
you sure? Grace, yes, I think I love you. If you're the girl I'm thinking of, sometimes
00:34:37.240
they'll be like, oh my God, wait, I know you. Wait, hold on. I know you. Wait. And
00:34:42.160
they're just making, they make me stand there and wait while they try to jog their
00:34:45.460
own memory. Okay. Which unfortunately I've done that to someone before. Was it
00:34:50.620
Shawn Mendes? I know. I know him through and through. Gosh, yeah, we fuck. I knew it.
00:35:01.960
So I was at like, I was at Amber Ruffin show. Okay. Okay. And I was backstage. She like
00:35:08.940
invited me. I'm backstage with like four other people. And I see this one girl in there and
00:35:15.580
I'm, she walks in and I'm like, oh my God. Hey. And she's like, hey. And I'm like, we've
00:35:24.320
worked together. And she's like, I don't know if we have. I'm like, no, we have for
00:35:28.880
sure. You look so familiar. I'm positive we've worked together. Find out two days later. It's
00:35:35.160
Lori Hernandez. Wait, is that her name? Yeah. Lori Hernandez, who's an Olympian. The gymnast.
00:35:40.060
Yeah. I was going to say, I know this. She's my mutual. I was like, yeah, for sure. I said,
00:35:47.720
are you an actor? She goes, yeah, I am. I'm like, yes. Also at that point I'd been on like
00:35:54.060
three TV shows, like all just like one day shoots. Me being like, we've worked together
00:35:59.200
in my illustrious career. Check my SAG card. Why don't you? We have to have worked together.
00:36:05.580
It's so embarrassing. But I mean, like actually could not have been sweeter about it. She was
00:36:11.380
like, yeah, you're probably right. We probably have worked together. For being really nice
00:36:17.480
about it. Too sweet. I'm sure this has happened to you too. I'm really, really bad with like
00:36:22.880
knowing. I know the like most famous people in the world. Obviously I have a general understanding
00:36:27.340
anything past that. I have no knowledge. I don't know why it doesn't imprint. So like any character
00:36:33.680
that anyone that's not like an Ariana Grande or a Beyonce. Sure. It's going to take me a while to
00:36:38.580
like think of the name. Okay. Gotcha. And so like we joke because my sister knows and remembers
00:36:43.160
everyone. So like when I take her with me to stuff, I rely on her to tell me who is who and where
00:36:48.840
they're from. And like, I went to the Elton John after party, like after the Oscars, which is like,
00:36:55.760
that's a dangerous place for me to be when I'm fucked up and I don't remember anything.
00:37:00.220
And there were many people coming up to me and being like, Oh my God, I'm such a huge fan. I'm
00:37:05.060
such a huge fan. And then I'd be like, Oh my God, thank you. Like once I was talking to this girl,
00:37:09.600
I was talking to this woman. She was so nice. And she was like, Oh, you may literally have made me
00:37:13.440
so much more confident in like standing up for myself. And I was like, that's so sweet. And she
00:37:18.880
goes in like, you know, like hating men. And then I go period. And then she goes, well, like not hating
00:37:24.880
them. Like, I know what, like they're not all that I go. And I'm, because I'm fucked up. I'm like,
00:37:28.780
girl, I ain't here. Fuck them. And then she like, she giggled. And then we laughed about it. And then
00:37:32.600
when she walked away, Deason was like, do you know who that is? And I still don't remember her name,
00:37:36.460
but she is an actress. She's in the Handmaid's Tale. I didn't watch Handmaid's Tale,
00:37:39.400
but it's not Natasha Lyonne. No, it's not. She's the one with the robot eye. It's not Uzo Aduba.
00:37:45.740
No, I would know her. I love you. Like, like Meryl Streep coming up to you and being like,
00:37:50.220
I love you. And you're like, move out of the fucking way. You're not Ariana Grande.
00:37:54.440
Thanks. I guess. Some people like don't recognize because sometimes I'm like, I don't know who that
00:38:00.440
is. I don't know who that is. I think that's fair because, okay, I went to the Emmys this year
00:38:04.940
and when you're there, like kind of no one looks famous. Yeah. Cause everyone's famous.
00:38:09.920
Everyone is famous. And it's almost like, why the hell is like Elle fanning in line for popcorn?
00:38:16.540
You know? Yeah. When I went to the Grammys and I went to the Grammys carpet,
00:38:21.380
they had like a little, like, it looked like a queue for a Disneyland ride to go on the carpet and
00:38:26.400
take photos. I'm not kidding. And then I saw Gracie Abrams standing in there and I laughed. I'm
00:38:31.040
laughing. Why is she waiting in line? No, I know Martin Short and Steve Martin were in line for
00:38:36.560
people in front of like me and my cast. Yeah. And we were like, this is fucked up. Like we need to
00:38:41.920
get them a chair. They should be in a golf cart. You know, I was like making all, I was like,
00:38:49.380
I really do believe that it's crazy to look down on internet people if they just so happen to get
00:38:53.580
in the door, especially because when you're marginalized, like it's so much harder to get
00:38:56.660
into entertainment. And that's why a lot of us have utilized the internet, which is a beautiful
00:38:59.980
thing. That being said, when I was at the Elton John after party and I saw all those people in
00:39:04.560
there and a lot of them were coming up and talking to me, I started thinking to myself,
00:39:08.200
yeah, I'd be a little mad at me too. Yeah. You know what? I, you know what? I get it. I
00:39:14.020
empathize a little bit because I got in here because I tell men to go fuck themselves and
00:39:18.260
or to suck my wiener. And now I'm in the room too. And I'm laughing. You have to like, you have to
00:39:24.020
have a come up story, right? Unless you're just truly a Nepo baby. Right. Exactly. But
00:39:29.440
it's like, Oh, the transition to me doesn't bother me. Cause I'm always like, I think they
00:39:33.740
work hand in hand and it's inevitable to fight it. Like the marketing at the end of the day,
00:39:38.100
but no, people do love to be like, why the fuck are, um, you know, uh, influencers doing red carpet
00:39:43.640
events. And it's kind of like, well, they're there. You aren't. It was really that simple.
00:39:49.860
I know. One girl said that to me on one of my carpet videos and I was like, well, what
00:39:53.500
do you care? I'm not taking your seat. Right. Like, what do you care? Yeah. And also you
00:39:58.660
really would just be taking like, I don't know, someone from the news is seeing anything.
00:40:04.400
I know. I'm like, who actually, who does, who would do that job otherwise? I don't remember.
00:40:08.840
Cause I'm like, you guys don't check credentials on anyone unless you recognize them from the
00:40:13.120
internet. You're never, if it's a person you don't recognize and they work for a media outlet,
00:40:16.900
you're never like, did you have a journalism degree? Right. You never do that shit. You
00:40:21.340
only do it cause you recognize me and that's different. And I do have one. And I tell people
00:40:24.700
too, I'm like, they invite us because we draw a crowd. Like we draw attention and obviously you're
00:40:30.140
an actor. So like, there's that too. I'm like, you guys, it, the, the view of it is so skewed
00:40:34.800
sometimes of like influencers there. That being said, I do understand why, how some influencers
00:40:39.860
act. I get why you don't like them. Right. And I was like, I think it's fair to say though,
00:40:44.180
that there are bad apples in every bunch, not just influencers. That's not an influencer
00:40:49.480
specific problem. It's just easier to pick at them because they're more accessible than
00:40:54.720
a celebrity, which is why I'm always like true talent. Like I was like, if you guys only
00:40:59.180
knew, like when they invite us to shit like that, I don't walk when Ariana Grande walks.
00:41:04.140
I walk at 12 noon. Right. And then I sit in the sun. Totally. You're there for like fucking
00:41:08.860
10 hours. I'm there for nine and a half hours. She just got here and I don't go to the show.
00:41:15.460
I'm not kidding. I do carpet and I fucking leave. Yeah. I like, I literally walk home.
00:41:20.500
Like you spend three grand of your own money on like random things for the day. You're like,
00:41:25.600
this is a loss for me. Yeah. I'm in the red for sure, but that's not the point. And that's
00:41:31.260
what makes me laugh. Cause I'm like, I, especially when I did what carpet was it? The Grammys.
00:41:36.300
Is I had to walk what could only be described as fucking the trek up Mount Everest. I had
00:41:42.840
to walk two miles in a, in a corset bitch. I was walking and I had like a tote bag and
00:41:48.040
a bunch of, a bunch of my other shit and I'm vaping the whole way. While I'm going there,
00:41:53.900
I'm like, surely this will make it easier to breathe. It's my oxygen. Tighten my corset
00:41:59.940
and give me another fucking vase. And I was like, that's literally what I'm doing as
00:42:05.460
I'm, as I'm getting there. And then they're like, can't believe you get to stand there
00:42:09.180
too. Trust me when I say it's not nearly as fun. You're like, you, you, you weren't
00:42:13.560
standing. The corset was keeping you up. I know girl. I felt like Elizabeth Swan in
00:42:18.580
that shit. It was so bad. Wait, so you've been to the Grammys. What other award shows have
00:42:23.540
been to? I've been to Golden Globes, Grammys, SAG Awards. And I know this. I know this. Golden
00:42:31.320
Globes is which one? What again? That's like, that's TV and film, I think. Okay. Me asking
00:42:36.500
like, I don't know. And I don't really. Okay. Is the Grammys the most fun? Honestly, I had
00:42:42.700
the most fun at SAG, the SAG Awards. Oh, that makes sense. That looked really fucking fun.
00:42:46.860
Yeah. That one was a lot more fun. That's the most recent one that you went to? No, the
00:42:50.000
Oscars is the most recent one I went to. Okay. But the SAG Awards were this year's.
00:42:53.220
Yes. Okay. So the Grammys are cool, too. The Grammys are fun, too. But like, SAG, I
00:42:58.200
feel like is different because my theory is because they vote for each other. It's
00:43:02.640
like less pressure. So they're having more fun. Like they're more relaxed. Totally. It's
00:43:07.020
not like being controlled by the Academy or anything. So it's like, it's almost like
00:43:10.940
they're, that's like their fun one. Like, and it's also the second to last one. So
00:43:14.960
they're like, it's like the last lap on a marathon. God poop in the pants, bloody
00:43:19.660
nipples. They're like, just get it over with. Just finish. I just want to finish. So I
00:43:23.100
feel like SAG was the most fun because they were the most relaxed and it gave me a better
00:43:28.100
energy. Right. But like Globes was stressful as fuck. And I feel like because that's the
00:43:32.640
first one of the season. Yeah. And it's TV and film. It's double the things. It's simply
00:43:39.940
mathematically double the things. Have you ever had like a weird or embarrassing carpet
00:43:45.320
experience? I wouldn't really say this was weird or embarrassing, but, um, fuck, am I
00:43:52.480
really going to forget her name? Okay. Cut the silence for me. Was she in something? Or
00:44:00.180
keep the silence. Um, okay. Not Jamie Lee Curtis, but you're like, who's a similar, who's a
00:44:14.420
similar? Like old woman? Old woman? Yes. And short hair, perhaps? Jane Lynch. Jane Lynch.
00:44:23.160
Thank you. Video Village. You meant to say it's Sue Sylvester. Right. Exactly. Thank you so much,
00:44:28.100
whoever that was. Is that Laura? Looking up into the clouds like it was God. Thank you,
00:44:33.720
angels. And who says God isn't real? Exactly. Okay. I am on The Daily Show. I saw that. That's
00:44:41.640
fucking awesome, by the way. Thank you. It's very cool. Yeah. And we got an Emmy for the show this
00:44:46.420
year. So exciting. So do I personally own an Emmy? No, I don't. But I'm on a show that does.
00:44:53.940
Anyways, I got to go on stage. And then you leave stage. Um, I gave a really long speech,
00:45:00.520
longer than Adrian Brody's. Um, it was about seven and a half minutes.
00:45:04.420
I got to say nothing. You leave stage. And then there's all this like press backstage that you
00:45:12.240
have to like sort through like little, you know, penguins. And, um, and then you finally finish it.
00:45:18.880
It takes like 45 minutes. Yeah. And I literally was like the dumbass who was like, we're missing the
00:45:23.540
show. Like, they're like, Oh, come over here. Vogue wants to say hi to Jon Stewart. And I'm like,
00:45:29.840
ugh. Like, like, Oh, geez. I'm like, they're about to announce another thing. Anyway, um,
00:45:38.460
we're leaving. And, um, finally about to go back on stage. And Jane Lynch looks right at me and goes,
00:45:44.920
congratulations. I said nothing back. I literally was like,
00:45:51.560
Hey, that's sick though. And just kept walking. I was like, this is fucked up. That was the coolest
00:45:58.160
thing that I, I wish I could have just gone Jane. God, babe. I love you. You look good.
00:46:05.160
But nothing came out of my mouth. Right. I, I just fully me to myself. I'm like, Whoa, Jane.
00:46:13.820
I had nothing. I couldn't even say thank you. Right. Words escaped you at that moment. Cause
00:46:19.840
then now I have to wonder to myself, does Jane Lynch know who I am? Yeah. That, that was
00:46:25.260
she's saying thank you to every, or congrats to everyone. If I were you, I would tell people
00:46:29.980
she was thanking you personally for enhancing the experience of the daily show. Yeah. That's
00:46:34.380
what I would do if I were you. I think so. I take full credit for it. I think so. And
00:46:37.500
who's going to correct you? Jane Lynch, please. I don't know. Well then maybe she should come
00:46:40.860
hang out with you and then she can correct you. I think so. I think that's what she comes on this
00:46:43.920
podcast next week. She's like, no fucking clue who Grace Collins is. And I don't appreciate her.
00:46:49.340
What she said was disgusting. Slanderous and libel. It's funny. Cause I, I like thinking
00:46:57.820
about that. I, when I was at the Grammys, this woman who I have met, uh, about three or four
00:47:06.480
times. And the only reason I, I hold it. I'm already, I already know where this is going
00:47:11.080
personally. I, I can't hold that against you because I can forget. Right. Sure. Like the
00:47:17.060
reason why it, I do kind of hold it against her is because we were represented by the same
00:47:21.700
PR company for like two years. So we saw each other often and met frequently and shared a
00:47:28.160
publicist. So like, I know she was, and she obviously, she's like a reality person. Yeah.
00:47:34.440
And, um, I'm like, okay, whatever. I have no like ill will towards her. I saw her at this
00:47:39.060
Grammys carpet. And like, again, she's seen me at other events has never said anything to
00:47:43.920
me. I'm not no skin off my nose. That's fine. Right. But then she, she made it a point to come
00:47:49.480
up to me and be like, Oh my God, how are you? Doesn't say my name. Cause I know she doesn't
00:47:55.620
know it, but I'm sure she's like, she's registering my face to some extent. And I go, I'm great.
00:48:00.640
How are you? I said, congrats on everything. Cause I, and I can't say what it was. Cause she
00:48:04.540
was just recently on a show, but like, I was like, congrats on that. Like whatever. She's
00:48:08.920
like, thank you so much. Congrats on your movie. I'm not in a movie and I haven't been in a movie.
00:48:17.260
She goes, and she says that to the point where like, cause she's saying it across. So it's like
00:48:22.020
other people are looking. And then I I'm like, what am I going to do? So then I just go, thank
00:48:26.260
you. And she goes, God, I'm so happy for you. All your success, the movie congrats. And she walks
00:48:32.200
away. Oh my God. I haven't been in one. And then I started thinking, Oh, okay. She
00:48:39.120
recognizes me from the few, the many times we've met, um, but doesn't know my name. That's
00:48:43.440
fine. She's telling people, she's like, that girl's in Dune. And she thinks I'm Timothy
00:48:47.580
Chalamet. That girl's in Dune. It's amazing what she did for the role. Yeah. That girl's
00:48:52.580
in Dune. She wears the little thing. She, she actually is like the monster in it. So you can't
00:48:57.680
see your face. You can hear her voice. Her laugh is in it. She's like, she's in conclave.
00:49:06.940
Dude. That's where I'm like, when she said it, she kept saying movie, movie this. And
00:49:11.260
then I was like, Oh, she has no clue who the fuck I am. Okay. And I quite possibly, unless
00:49:16.300
you think I'm the rock, I don't know who you could confuse me with. It's like, I don't
00:49:19.980
look like that. You were the rock. Yeah. And that I would laugh. You'd get a giggle out
00:49:25.740
of me, honestly. Damn. I'd love to know how your experience on the daily show has
00:49:29.380
been though. It's been fabulous. Yeah. I mean, it is very cool because I was living
00:49:34.680
in New York city, craving stability financially and it happened. So the show
00:49:42.780
is like so cool. I frankly had not watched it. And when I auditioned, I did not think
00:49:49.740
I was going to get hired. I was like, this is good. Um, experience like audition experience.
00:49:55.240
And then like, I had a meeting with the executive producer. She was like, Ontario, the wait is
00:49:59.640
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going to look like. And I like called my team and was like, I got the job and they were like,
00:51:05.160
Oh no, no, no. We'll double check. I was like, no, no, no. I got the job. I'm not believing you
00:51:08.800
Yeah, they didn't believe me. Let's cross check it before we get excited. Sure, sure, sure. Just
00:51:12.700
fucking chill. You're still on the block. They can hear you. Um, that's so cool though. It's
00:51:18.180
really cool. Has the writing for that changed? Like, is the experience different than writing
00:51:22.940
for standup or writing for yourself? For sure. Well, the show has a writer's room. Oh, okay. That's
00:51:27.360
good. So, um, there's like, I want to say like 20 writers and they write almost everything. If I'm
00:51:34.360
doing like a man on the street segment, then it's pretty much improvised. Okay, cool. But,
00:51:38.700
um, yeah, like on the show, the writers write it and I can like do some punch ups and stuff like
00:51:43.360
that. Oh, nice. But yeah, I mean, my other stuff is, it is funny, like going from basically being
00:51:51.280
on TikTok and like Instagram reels. And I'm like, not to really like, you know, sound like I think
00:51:57.440
I'm amazing. Flex on these hoes. But I'm like, you know, we are ultimately like writing,
00:52:01.540
directing and acting in our own thing. It's true. I had never thought about that until
00:52:06.320
Caleb painted it that way. Fully is. Yeah. Like, you know, there's certain videos that,
00:52:12.260
you know, sometimes there will be a video where, you know, it's like one or two takes. Yeah. But
00:52:16.660
I have videos where I've done like an unbelievable amount of takes. Yeah. With like the smallest
00:52:22.300
changes each time. And I'm like, oh damn, I'm a fucked up director. Man, they would hate
00:52:28.600
me. I'm my worst nightmare. That's so, that's really cool too, especially because how is
00:52:35.080
the experience filming it? Like filming after a minute or after a minute, I said that was
00:52:38.740
on my brain. Filming the daily show when you're like in studio, like how is that experience?
00:52:43.800
Because when I did studio television like that, it was completely different than anything
00:52:47.660
I've ever done, which is kind of interesting. Well, yeah, it's super different than like being
00:52:51.100
on set for like a scripted show because it is like I'm reading off a teleprompter.
00:52:56.040
Okay. I think I'm allowed to say that. I think I'm allowed to say that. Yeah, I'm reading
00:53:02.220
off a teleprompter, all late night TV is. Yeah. And it's like one take. So you don't have
00:53:10.460
the like freedom to be like, oh, I fucked that up. Can I try that again? Yeah. Or really
00:53:15.020
for any notes. It's just kind of like you got to go with what you talked about in rehearsal
00:53:20.180
and then just try and do it the same. And if you fuck up, well, you fuck up.
00:53:26.580
Really? I didn't know they do. They don't do takes again or anything like that. The only
00:53:30.060
time I've ever refilmed anything was because someone in the audience's phone was going
00:53:34.280
off. Oh, damn. Okay. And it was really actually horrible to watch. It was this really old
00:53:39.820
couple. And the man's phone was going off and he had about 15 pockets on his body. Like he was
00:53:50.260
opening every fucking pocket. Like no phone. I don't know. It took him like 90 seconds to get it.
00:53:57.340
And his wife just darts through him the whole time. And I think it's possible they're divorced.
00:54:03.860
Wouldn't be surprised. I bet they'd been together for fucking 55 years. And I think
00:54:09.060
they're divorced. That was really hard to see. Because of that one experience on the set of the
00:54:13.940
daily show. No. And then like, yeah, the producers were like, we got to do it again. Obviously,
00:54:17.680
you know, we didn't even get to get through it because the phone and I was like, someone want
00:54:21.800
to check in on them though? Are they okay? What's been like, have you ever said a joke like
00:54:29.820
that was pre-written or whatever and it got like no laugh at all. And then you kind of
00:54:33.840
tweaked it, improv did anything like that? Or do you kind of just make peace with it?
00:54:37.860
The show is so like, it's been on for so many years, like decades. So I feel like it really is
00:54:45.980
like a very specific process. There's not like a whole lot I can like switch up last a minute.
00:54:51.200
And not that I really think I'd get in trouble. I'm just not a risk taker. Yeah, I feel you.
00:54:56.220
I don't drive above the speed limit. I'm not like, especially with productions like that too.
00:55:01.420
Like you just want to be a team player in a lot of ways. Yeah. I was just curious if
00:55:04.400
it's ever been a hard sell, a joke in the live studio audience. I mean, for sure. There
00:55:09.300
have been jokes where we're like, oh, that's going to do great. And we do it and not a single
00:55:13.340
laugh. But to be fair, our audience is like almost entirely tourists. Yeah. Huh? It's
00:55:18.900
like the same people that go watch the Tonight Show or anything. I mean, it's on 52nd street
00:55:22.680
in Manhattan. It's like, we are ultimately a few blocks away from Times Square. Yeah.
00:55:29.500
That's true. That is true. And you know what I will say is what I did after midnight recently
00:55:35.340
as like a panelist person. That's Taylor Tomlinson. Yeah. Cool. And so the experience was really
00:55:40.120
fun. Like we, I had a blast doing it and it was like, it's like mostly improv or no, it's
00:55:46.420
mostly written, but you do it beforehand and then you do it with a writer or whatever.
00:55:49.760
Um, but I did make a joke, like, cause there was a bit where we were talking about, um,
00:55:55.580
dogs, like, and we were saying if they were, we thought they were good or bad and why.
00:55:59.140
And we just naturally started like appealing as if we were their lawyers. And so like one
00:56:05.020
of them, I was like, this is a cop dog. Uh huh. Case closed. Guilty. Fuck cops. Right.
00:56:11.700
Like that's the joke. Right. I got like maybe a couple laughs. And then I think to myself,
00:56:16.540
and this was early on in the show. So it was probably like 20 minutes in. And when
00:56:20.060
I made that joke, I go, Oh, big cop lovers in this audience. And everyone started laughing
00:56:25.000
and I go, Oh, after midnight backs, the blue, my fucking bad. And they cut that joke, but
00:56:29.720
it was funny. Wait, that's so good. I know. And I was like, and I, I kind of like saved it
00:56:35.520
at the end, but I was like, what are you guys fucking cop lovers? Also hilarious that they
00:56:39.140
cut that. Did they cut the whole thing or they cut just the part where you got more
00:56:42.740
laughs? Where I got more laughs. Oh, fuck. Yeah. So it looked like it really fell flat.
00:56:48.800
Yeah. But I'm teary to tell you the truth. You're like watching with family friends. You're
00:56:51.960
like, just wait for it. Just wait for it. I'm really going to get the audience on my
00:56:55.880
side this time. Cut to the, cut to commercial. Right. Wendy's. What the fuck? Well, maybe
00:57:02.940
this is a different cut. Maybe they're sending me another edit. So I would love to know who
00:57:08.740
were your comedy, like idols. Like who are people that you really looked up to in that
00:57:13.680
world? Um, Chelsea Peretti has my favorite standup special. I feel like as a standup
00:57:19.860
people like ask like, what's, you know, what specials do you watch? And I'm like, well, I
00:57:25.120
think I've seen five, but you know, I really just can't watch men. Right. And I'm not saying
00:57:30.700
that from like a, it's like not even that I've tried. It's like, I'm just like, I'm not
00:57:37.040
interested. Yeah. And that's okay. I'm good with that. Um, but you know, of course
00:57:41.720
like Broad City was huge for me. Um, love Alana. And then really like when I was living
00:57:49.300
in Chicago, like I had so many like idols who like now feel like peers and friends to
00:57:54.200
me. Love. So like, you know, Sydney, Washington, I think is one of the funniest
00:57:57.940
people in the world. Pat Regan and Catherine Cohen I've always been obsessed with. Love.
00:58:02.160
Marie Faustin is the funniest person. So period. I said one guy, he's gay. So yeah, doesn't
00:58:09.140
count. Yeah. So different. It's super different. Gay guys and straight guys are actually so
00:58:15.840
completely different. I don't know if anyone knows that. Why aren't more people talking
00:58:20.100
about this? I don't know. I don't know. Is there anything that you're looking like
00:58:25.880
would be a dream of yours in terms of like achieving or doing or being a part of in the
00:58:31.980
terms of entertainment, whether it's a movie show, anything? Yeah. All of the above.
00:58:38.340
Dreams. I'm like, I mean, I really just want to act like me too. That's just always been
00:58:43.840
my dream. And it's like a dream show you'd love to be in, even if it's not the exact show,
00:58:49.060
but like the framework of one. I'm not even that big of a, of a viewer of it, but like
00:58:55.040
something like always sunny that's like been on for so fucking long. Yeah. They have it down
00:59:00.000
to a T and they can just, Oh, like workaholics was my favorite show growing up. I loved
00:59:04.900
workaholics. The episode of them when they take Molly and go to the baby shower. It's
00:59:09.860
unbelievable. It brought me to tears. I was laughing. Sorry. It brought me to tears. It's
00:59:13.020
unbelievable. And like, were you a stoner when you were watching it? No, actually no. Oh
00:59:17.600
really? Not at the time. No. That's probably rare. I think so. Asking me now? Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:22.800
Yeah. Yeah. Asking me then? No. I was like, just so in love with Blake Anderson. I couldn't
00:59:29.360
even fucking think straight. I really was like, woof. I got, I loved his long, long hair,
00:59:36.180
long hair. Yeah. Anyway. Um, the day he followed me on Instagram, I actually was like, I think
00:59:43.800
I should be straight. I think it's worth a shot. Um, yeah, I just want to be in like
00:59:51.460
silly, goofy shit. And you know, eventually I'd actually like to make, um, media about
00:59:58.560
lesbians. That's really sweet. Yeah. I love that. I think that they're, you know, lesbians
01:00:05.860
are so fucking weird that, that, and I don't know much about them yet, but once I do my research,
01:00:11.880
I think that I could make some show about them. Yeah. Do some more research about their
01:00:15.280
culture. Definitely. I'll have to read some books cause there's nothing, there's frankly
01:00:20.400
really not much media about them yet. Not enough to be honest. No, not at all. Not enough
01:00:26.380
at all. When I was on After Midnight, there was like, they showed this clip of Luca, what's
01:00:31.580
his name? Guadagina. Guadagina. Guadagina. Guadagina. Right. Right. And he was saying all the
01:00:35.760
best movies in the world are gay. Uh huh. And I was like, okay, tea coming from him. Tea. And
01:00:40.000
then we had to say a movie that we thought was super gay that like nobody talks about.
01:00:44.200
Yeah. Mine was Fight Club. Oh, you're right though. Easy. You're right. I was like all
01:00:49.060
a bunch of naked men keeping a secret. I know. Yeah. I've seen that before. Well, I mean,
01:00:52.940
think about how like queer, like Top Gun felt when it came out recently. Dude, I wish I said
01:00:58.160
Top Gun. Honestly, I thought about that joke after. That football scene. I mean, that was
01:01:02.860
the opening to the best porn I could have ever seen. Can you imagine if they just started
01:01:09.360
fucking right after that? And who's to say they didn't? I know. I haven't seen the director's
01:01:13.440
cut. Have you? No, I haven't. We demand it. I literally saw, I watched a Family Guy episode
01:01:21.860
probably like two days ago that is purely just about Top Gun. It's like them making fun of Top
01:01:26.960
Gun. And it's so funny. But in my head, I was like, I have never watched these movies
01:01:32.600
ever. But if this is really what they're about, that's insane. I know. What a dumbass plot.
01:01:38.620
I know. Well, most movies actually have horrible plots. That's true. But just like I'm like,
01:01:45.280
I've never seen a more like, this is not for me. Kind of like, it's like there are certain
01:01:50.480
pieces of media, like you were saying about male standups, like there are pieces of media
01:01:54.920
that I don't ever need to see. Right. Because I've seen Who Loves It and I'm good. Right. That's
01:02:00.460
how I feel about it. Right. Like something like Top Gun. I'm like, I don't ever, I don't ever need
01:02:06.000
to watch that. Right. And it's not made for you. No, I'm not the Democrat. It reminds me of what I
01:02:10.240
was saying earlier of like why like I don't feel like I need to do shows for straight people is
01:02:14.980
like, well, yeah, then of course I don't need to watch straight male standups. They weren't making
01:02:18.900
it for me. Yeah, we all have our thing. Yes. Right. That's why I'm like, I don't, there, there are like huge
01:02:24.480
movies. I, if I could think of one right now, like The Godfather, I've never seen it. I'm okay
01:02:29.660
never seeing it. Right. That's all right. Yeah. And I, and I think to myself, no, The Heat starring
01:02:35.000
Melissa McCarthy. That's a movie that I will, I will promote till there is no more bread in my lungs.
01:02:42.320
It is really funny. I'm so glad you've seen it because I have come to find out that a lot of
01:02:47.260
people have never seen that movie. No, it's so good. And like, if I were to say like a dream movie
01:02:51.700
of me would be a buddy comedy like that, you'd be so good. We should do one together. We should
01:02:57.240
do one together. Yeah. Like as The Heat part two. I'm dying to see the SZA Kiki Palmer movie. Oh yes.
01:03:03.080
Yes. One of them days. I watched it. Fuck. I want to see it so bad. And it's so cool. Cause I, I,
01:03:06.960
I figured too, because have you ever seen the Friday movies? The what movies? Friday, the movies.
01:03:12.500
Okay. So there's Friday and then there's like Friday after next, like those movie, the movie,
01:03:16.420
one of them days is like loosely based off like Friday. Cause that was two men, like starring two
01:03:20.640
men and this, and there's a whole lot of lore and history behind that movie. And it's fucking so
01:03:24.480
funny. But one of them days is kind of a similar thread line. Amazing. But I love a silly ass movie.
01:03:31.100
I know. I know. Even when I, I interviewed Quinta at the Golden Globes, I asked her like,
01:03:35.300
what do you want to see more of in TV and film? And she was like, honestly, silliness. Like I want to
01:03:39.280
see people being funny for the sake of being funny and not like in a way that's harmful or hurtful to
01:03:44.780
anyone. Or also needs to be a political really. Yeah. Kind of like, I actually think goofiness
01:03:49.700
could save the world. That's actually a really great segue into our, our new segment, uh, grace
01:03:57.580
that we have today, which is sponsored by Netflix. Everyone say thank you, Netflix. Thank you,
01:04:05.100
Netflix. Okay. So there is a new Netflix movie coming out soon called the life list. And it's
01:04:11.200
about a young woman who was sent on a quest by her late mother to complete her teenage
01:04:15.400
life list. So in the spirit of the life list, we're going to talk about our own kind of bucket
01:04:21.320
list. I want to know what you used to have on your bucket list that you've already checked
01:04:25.360
off and what you still want to accomplish that you haven't quite crossed out yet.
01:04:29.480
Oh, hmm. Okay. Netflix, you are really good with this question. Um, okay. What's on my bucket list
01:04:42.520
that I need to do? Yeah. Like what's, what's something you've crossed off already and something
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you want to cross off if you've already crossed anything off. Okay. Something I want to cross
01:04:53.540
off is, um, I bought a fancy bed frame. Oh, nice. I love that. That's pretty crazy to
01:05:02.440
do. I would say yes. No, seriously. It's really crazy to do something that cool. And this is
01:05:10.180
the life list. You crossing it off. I mean, just was like the first time I bought a bed
01:05:14.220
frame that was not like from Ikea specifically. Right. And I was like, whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
01:05:19.680
yeah, yeah. I was like, oh my God, I'm a billionaire until I spend this money and then I have back
01:05:25.140
to nothing. But perfect. So that's something I've crossed off. Perfect. Something I need
01:05:30.400
to cross off. These are both purchases, whatever. Something I need to cross off. I need to buy
01:05:35.320
pans that aren't going to kill me. Right. Do you know what I'm talking about? Like the, as
01:05:40.460
far as like when it gets all, like I have pans that like when I, when I have looked them
01:05:46.160
up, people are like, this will give you cancer in 10 years. You know what I mean? Right.
01:05:50.460
Cause that's lead. Nice. Where are you getting these pans? Like amazon.com. Or no, I should
01:05:57.660
say netflix.com. So perfect. So you bought a bed frame, need to buy pans. I need to buy
01:06:04.780
pans. I want, I have my eye on them. There's this brand called like all clad, I think. Oh,
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Hexclad. Hexclad. No. I know Hexclad. But that's different. Right. No offense. Sorry
01:06:18.400
for yelling. Everyone's scared. That's my, that's my culture. It's not the same thing. Hexclad
01:06:25.260
is different. Yeah, you're right. All clad, I think is different. And if I'm wrong, fucking
01:06:30.420
delete this episode. I hope you are wrong. Cause that's so funny. I don't know if you are,
01:06:36.260
but I hope you are. What about you, Drew? Oh, what's on my life list? Yes. I've been
01:06:41.120
fucking dying to ask you, girl. That's right. That's been burning at the back of your tongue.
01:06:45.580
I bet. I would say something I've already crossed off, um, that I really wanted to do.
01:06:52.340
Hmm. Interview me. Sorry. Interrupted. Interview me. Check. I was at the very top. Lifeless,
01:07:01.040
crossed. Um, I would say I wanted to retire my parents. Oh, so I did. Love that. God damn.
01:07:09.820
And I also. That's the coolest thing you could have ever said. And I also bought a bed frame.
01:07:14.600
So that was also on mine. All right. Now you're like flexing. Something I would like to cross off.
01:07:21.760
Doing a buddy comedy with you. Yeah. We got to make that happen. Right. Now Netflix is on the hook.
01:07:26.060
Now they have to do it because this is sponsored by Netflix. Right. Sorry. It's the way it goes.
01:07:32.260
Kind of a binding contract that you guys signed that I sent over. Yeah. Sorry about that. Get a
01:07:37.520
better team. Good answers. I would say. And also if you guys are interested in watching the life list,
01:07:45.060
it is starring Sophia Carson, Connie Britton, and Kyle Allen. And the life list premieres only on
01:07:51.640
Netflix, March 28th. Grace and I are going to be tuned in. Yes, we are. Love you, Connie.
01:08:00.040
She's my fave. Connie Britton. Yes. I love that. Were you a Friday Night Lights girl?
01:08:05.580
Um, Nashville. Oh, nice. Nice. Nice. Did you ever watch that show? No, but was Hayden Penetier in that
01:08:11.340
show for a while? Yeah. Okay. I thought so. I thought I recognized the name from her and Connie
01:08:17.040
Britton. Yeah. I once saw a Family Guy joke about Connie Britton that said like, uh, the joke was
01:08:22.060
literally that her hair is so perfect. It looks edible. That was the only joke. That's a really
01:08:27.960
good point. It does. She woke up and he was eating her hair. You could kind of like carve it off and
01:08:32.480
place it on top of ice cream. Is it cake? Now my question is how much Family Guy are you watching?
01:08:37.580
Because it's the second time you've brought it up. Yeah. That's not a question I think I feel
01:08:41.140
comfortable answering. Totally. Totally. Someone check on her. You know what's funny is Caleb once
01:08:47.240
told me that he thinks Family Guy is one of the funniest TV comedies I've ever written and I in
01:08:53.420
that moment had never felt more validated in my entire fucking life. Yeah. I actually just thought
01:08:57.880
of something else that has nothing to do with what we're talking about, um, that I need to bring up to
01:09:02.420
you because I was, I saw your vlog yesterday that you posted and it was so funny. Thank you. But I was
01:09:08.860
like, went on your page to show my fiance because I wanted to show him your vlog. And then I found,
01:09:13.700
I saw this picture of you where you said it's Gagne, right? Yep. So you were Eric Gagne for
01:09:18.940
Halloween in 2006. Yep. No one here is going to know who that is. Right. But my fiance thought this
01:09:25.540
was the funniest thing he has ever seen. No, I have never had more, um, like I've never had more DMs
01:09:34.000
and comments from straight men than the day that I posted that. Is, is your fiance also from Southern
01:09:39.940
California? Yes. Like, is he a Dodgers fan growing up? No, he wasn't a Dodgers fan, but he just knows
01:09:44.380
that he loves baseball. He loved baseball, but he was a big baseball. He knows about all sports. No,
01:09:49.040
I seriously was like, Oh my God, if that was straight, I would have fucking gotten laid the day
01:09:54.160
I posted that. No. And he was saying like, he, he was telling me his whole lore, like about Eric Gagne.
01:09:59.860
First I said Eric Gagne and he goes, and then he goes, it's Gagne. And I go, well, my fucking
01:10:05.460
Canadian, you fucking idiot. He's like, he's a Canadian dude. Throws like a hundred miles an
01:10:10.900
hour. Yeah. And he was like, he was like, that's the funniest costume I've ever seen. Then I opened
01:10:16.000
the comments. I see Caleb in there. And I was like, I should have fucking known. I know that's
01:10:19.560
like the straightest part of Caleb. He's a straight guy in disguise. Yeah. Like I was going to say
01:10:23.220
that's the straightest part. He's gay for pay for real. He's doing it for fame and fortune. Right.
01:10:30.220
Right. And one day it's all going to come toppling down. He's queer baiting. Yes. That's what he's
01:10:34.120
been doing. He is queer baiting. Because he's been inside me and he's good. And he didn't call.
01:10:41.900
No. And that's, that's pissing me off. And yeah, I'm personally offended by it. I wanted to bring up
01:10:47.820
the Eric Gagne thing because my fiance was like, that's the funniest costume I've ever seen.
01:10:51.780
Thank you. I'm, I'm really honored. Unfortunately, something like actually negative about me is that
01:10:57.420
to me, like gay people can compliment me left and right. The moment, like a straight guy
01:11:01.260
compliments me, I'm like, what the hell? Yeah, it must really mean something. He said,
01:11:07.840
do you mind saying that again for me for the record? I just want to make sure. Oh God.
01:11:12.240
Tell him I love him. I will. I promise I will. That's so special. I sent it to his brother
01:11:16.540
because his brother's a big baseball fan too. And he also thought it was the funniest thing ever.
01:11:19.800
I also, you doing that at, how old were you in 2006? I'm, uh, 11. You doing that at 11 is crazy.
01:11:27.280
I know. I mean, I'm fully in drag, right? I'm being, I'm a drag king. Absolutely. Um,
01:11:31.920
you're gender bending. Yeah. My mom like painted on a goatee with like her eyeliner or something.
01:11:36.440
But I saw that photo like in my parents, like, you know, online, like just the photos that we have.
01:11:41.580
Right. And, um, I, I sent it to my brother. I'm like, who am I in this? And he goes,
01:11:46.180
holy fuck, Eric Gagne. It's uncanny. He was like, I knew immediately. And if you look at
01:11:52.960
pictures of Eric Gagne, it is pretty uncanny. It's, it's also so funny you say that. Cause
01:11:58.400
when I was in fifth grade, so I was 10, um, when I had to do like a, we had to do a report on someone
01:12:05.360
we admired from history. That's imperative context. Um, and I picked King George the third
01:12:12.040
and I was the only woman who, the only girl who chose to be a boy. And you get to dress up.
01:12:17.820
Yeah. And I had to dress up in drag. I'm fully in drag. Yep. I had a wig and everything. Yeah. And
01:12:22.600
like, I dress like a Royal and I, my mom like stayed up with me late that night, like helping
01:12:26.760
me make my costume. But my teacher called my mom and was like, I feel like maybe she should pick
01:12:32.800
somebody else. Like, you know, like kind of like concerned about me because he's one of the worst
01:12:38.320
British monarchs in history. And like truly was so terrible. And I was like, that's my fucking guy.
01:12:44.300
I remember I dress, I was so excited to wear my costume to school. Mind you, when I'm 10,
01:12:49.920
I'm five, four. So it's even more horrifying. And so like, I go fully and like one inch shorter
01:12:54.920
than me right now. That's so powdered wig, all that shit. Yeah. Like I had like my mom, I remember
01:13:01.600
had like a tiki torch from our backyard and she covered the whole thing in foil. So it
01:13:06.080
looked like a scepter because I was five, four, almost taller than the tiki torch. That's
01:13:10.220
weird. And I'm like holding it. And I remember the first day we came to school in the costumes.
01:13:15.800
We all like all fifth graders went in the library and then they were like, oh, if anyone wants
01:13:19.620
to do their monologue now, you get extra credit. And especially if you have an accent and you
01:13:24.380
do the accent. Bitch, I was first. I was like, oh, I know what the fuck. Yeah.
01:13:28.660
Yeah. Yeah. I sound like Dick Van Dyke. For real. And I, I literally was like, I remember
01:13:34.560
when I think back on it, I'm like, I have wanted and needed attention for as long as I
01:13:39.620
can remember. Yep. It has been imperative. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That day was huge. I love
01:13:45.200
that you're, I, there, my mom also went so hard on like homemade costumes for stuff. And
01:13:51.120
that is like, I can't admire anything more. Like there's something about like a parent just
01:13:56.480
being like, this is what you want. Your mom has headphones on, isn't even listening.
01:14:00.420
I'm like, what you've done for your daughter is unbelievable.
01:14:05.700
She weren't, you weren't listening. I was telling her about King George the third. And she was
01:14:08.940
like me trying to talk to your mom and your, her headphones are on. I'm like, you have raised
01:14:12.680
the most beautiful daughter. No, there is something so beautiful about fostering that kind of creativity.
01:14:18.660
And being like, my kid's going to look so dumb and I'm going to make sure they look
01:14:25.200
as dumb as possible. They're like, okay. Like it's so cool. I know. And my mom was
01:14:30.680
like, I mean, if she wants to do it, let her do it. Right. It's not against the rules.
01:14:33.980
Right. And then she was like, no. And I was like, I was the only one in drag. I was a drag
01:14:39.300
king that day. And I, I left on top that day. And there were many Halloweens where I, my mom
01:14:44.240
was like, are you sure? And I was like, yeah. Yeah. Like I, like I wanted to be, um, I was,
01:14:49.660
I could have been Trinity, but I wanted to be Neo from matrix. Oh my God. And ask me, have I ever
01:14:55.320
seen the matrix? No, I just saw the, I thought it was sick. And then I told my mom, no, I want
01:15:00.660
to be the guy. And she was like, why? And I was like, you could be the girl. And I was like, no,
01:15:04.600
I understand that. I want to be Neo. Yeah. I could be a girl every day of my life.
01:15:10.500
Let me live a little. Yeah. And then I went to a party and I, at that point I was probably
01:15:14.140
like eight and I went dressed as Neo, uh, to the party. I had like latex, everything
01:15:19.380
on the glasses. My mom's like all my hair back, like Keanu Reeves. I'm walking around
01:15:23.500
the party and only the adults are like, that's fucking sick. Like only the adults are like,
01:15:27.980
are you supposed to be Neo? And I'm like, yeah, they're like, oh, that's so sick. Oh my
01:15:30.900
God. That is cool. It's fun though. That's why, that's how I feel about your Eric Gagne. Do
01:15:36.500
you still like dress up for Halloween and stuff? You go hard. I love it. I lost it. You
01:15:41.960
did that sparkle. You lost your sparkle. Yeah, I did. I don't know where it went. You
01:15:47.900
know what? It's sad. Crossing something off the life list would probably bring back your
01:15:51.240
sparkle. You're right. You're right. I need to buy some pots and pans. I do have some fun
01:15:59.360
facts about you that I want to read to you really quickly. This says in 2012, she started
01:16:04.100
a petition for her school to put a microwave in the cafeteria. Yes. Oh my God. How fun you
01:16:08.980
found that. Grassroots, a woman of the people. Yeah, for sure. That was my first kind of
01:16:13.060
like, um, when I dipped my toes into politics, um, and yeah, we ended up getting, I got like
01:16:21.160
150 signatures and we got a microwave. Why did you guys need a microwave that badly? Because
01:16:26.860
all these kids were getting hot, hot food in school and my mom would not pay for it. My
01:16:33.680
mom would not pay for it. And so I was eating fucking cold spaghetti every day and we needed
01:16:40.100
a microwave. You did. It's basic human rights, girl. Something you clearly don't give a fuck
01:16:45.360
about. You're right. Well, we did roll back DEI here, so that's probably why I don't care.
01:16:51.040
That's probably why I don't give a fuck. Uh, it says you played, you were a catcher on your
01:16:55.020
high school softball team. Sure was. Which I- Third base too. That was one of my favorite clips
01:16:59.720
from Caleb's podcast of yours when you said you're on the fence, like, let's go, girls. Yeah.
01:17:05.000
I- Just so straight, like, boy, I hope James says yes to my promposal. So fucking gay.
01:17:13.740
It's funny, there's a couple, I'm actually surprised, um, that there aren't more comments
01:17:19.220
about this, but there were like two comments that were like, actually, she couldn't have been
01:17:22.860
designated hitter and catcher at the same time, which is true. And I'm like, whoa, thank, let's get
01:17:27.860
these, let's put these comments away. Be careful, they might, they might find out I'm lying.
01:17:31.580
Like, they have two likes, and I'm like, whoa, they almost canceled me there.
01:17:35.700
Phew. They almost found out. Literally. Uh, it also says you once convinced Phoebe Bridgers
01:17:42.340
to sing a duet of Monster by Shawn Mendes and Justin Bieber with her on a college Zoom comedy
01:17:47.380
show. Yeah, and that video is public, and it's not gone viral. I wonder why that is. I reposted
01:17:56.620
every kind of, um, 11 months or so, and it's not gone viral. It actually got the most likes
01:18:02.740
ever by an account that has about 100 followers. That is a curse that I have sometimes. My videos
01:18:10.160
go most viral, not posted by me. It's not fair. They're like, well, now that someone else showed
01:18:16.100
it to me, it is actually pretty funny. And then the comments on that are like, who the fuck
01:18:19.400
is the other girl? Was it hard to convince Phoebe Bridgers? No. No, not hard enough. It really
01:18:27.800
wasn't, but I was pretty sure she was not gonna show up. Okay. I basically, I don't know why, I had
01:18:34.740
like just, Caleb and I had just done a favor for Phoebe. Okay. Can't go into more details on that.
01:18:39.940
We killed someone. Right. So you called in a favor. Yeah. And, um, and so I was like,
01:18:49.000
it was like a couple of weeks later, I got asked to do this comedy show and I was like,
01:18:51.560
you know what would make these fucking liberal arts kids like shit their pants is if Phoebe
01:18:54.940
Bridgers comes on and sings with me. Right. So I texted her and she was like, yeah, for sure.
01:19:00.400
And then like, I sent like a paragraph of what I wanted to do. I was like, so we're gonna sing
01:19:06.000
monster by Sean Mendez and Justin Bieber. You're Sean Mendez. I'm Justin Bieber. And she never
01:19:11.020
responded to that paragraph. And I was like, Oh no, I lost my shot. And then a week later I was
01:19:16.240
like, Hey, just making sure, you know, if you don't want to do this, no problem at all. I think
01:19:20.300
I even said I can pay you $200. And I knew that was stretching it for me. I was like, and that was
01:19:32.020
pushing it for me. No takeout for six months for me. But, um, yeah, she said yes. And we did it.
01:19:39.500
And then after the call, I was like, thank you so much. She was like, no prob. And, um,
01:19:44.080
and how did I talk so much sense? I see her and she's amazing. And how did the duet go? Did it go
01:19:51.180
over? Well, really good. I, I actually think I sang better. I'm being dead ass because I think that,
01:20:00.200
um, Phoebe was like kind of viewing this as a joke. I wasn't.
01:20:05.260
No, this was my time. Phoebe's like holding her pug and she's like singing and I'm like,
01:20:14.540
You know what this awful is? I don't even know what song that is. It's really good.
01:20:19.260
And there's a music video. I don't even need to watch it. I'm just going to watch your version.
01:20:23.160
Yeah, just watch. I'll send it to you. That's the only version. It's really good. That's the only
01:20:25.880
version I need to be quite honest with you. I like that you took that real. Guys,
01:20:30.200
are we doing this for real? Yeah. I'm like, if you're not going to show up, you're not going
01:20:34.360
to get that 200 bucks. No call, no show, no payment. That's how it works. Okay. It says
01:20:41.420
you were in college improv group called skidomity. Unfortunately, did you pick that name? No,
01:20:48.180
that name had been around for generations. True. That's a legacy name. Yes. And the Chris
01:20:53.300
Fleming college, the college you and Chris Fleming went to. And then lastly, it says in third grade,
01:20:58.780
she won creative writer award. And then there's a picture. Yeah, that is like, I'm scared.
01:21:07.420
I have to poop or I'm about to cry. You look really upset. I look really upset. I have no idea.
01:21:15.940
I have no idea. But that photo is so scary. They're holding your family hostage on the other
01:21:20.180
side of the camera. Yes, that's what it is. I'm like, please,
01:21:22.000
can I see them finally? I've given you everything you've asked. I won the award.
01:21:28.960
Well, I don't remember that award either. I can't believe you didn't put this on your life list.
01:21:34.360
Yeah, you're right. You should cross this off on your life list. What year is that?
01:21:38.060
It says in third grade. Third grade. In Miss Williams class. I don't know what that even means.
01:21:42.800
Miss Williams. Oh, she's an awesome teacher. Miss Williams. Yeah. Shout out. Shout out.
01:21:47.320
For real. Yeah, she was cool as fuck. Plus size queen.
01:21:59.240
She was really curvy and very fun to hug, as am I.
01:22:04.960
Is that impossible to say? No, no, of course not. Thank you very much.
01:22:08.640
She's a white woman. I'm not, like, doing anything weird here.
01:22:14.980
And then you go, and you're her. And then you pull it up and you're Phoebe Bridgers.
01:22:19.340
Yeah, exactly. I'll let Phoebe get canceled for this.
01:22:23.800
Okay, to kind of wrap us up, I would love to know if you have any advice for anyone who's, like,
01:22:30.640
looking to pursue, whether it's comedy or acting or both at all, like,
01:22:34.580
if you have any advice for them in terms of pursuing it as a job.
01:22:40.160
I mean, like, literally just post on the internet.
01:22:43.240
Yeah, that's true. It's actually, like, really low stakes.
01:22:56.120
and he was like, Grace, I think if you post a video,
01:23:02.620
and it went viral, and we were like, oh, my God.
01:23:06.240
Yeah, we were like, what? We have too much power.
01:23:17.060
It wouldn't hurt to have a parent in the industry.