The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - FASHION IS AN ART Ft. Griffin Maxwell Brooks

00:00:00.000 I want people to be confused as to why they're attracted to me.

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00:00:04.620 Why am I into this?

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00:00:06.600 Right, yeah.

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00:00:11.000 What's wrong with me?

00:00:12.800 Why do I feel like this?

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00:01:21.280 Hey everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show starring me, your fave,

00:01:26.000 everybody knows me, yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:01:29.100 On to the amazing guests.

00:01:30.640 Today we have the wonderful, the iconic, the legendary Griffin Maxwell Brooks.

00:01:35.220 Woo! 0.99

00:01:35.860 Hey! 0.99

00:01:37.100 I'm so excited to be here.

00:01:38.540 I'm so excited to finally have you.

00:01:40.200 Griffin and I have been trying to sync up for over a year.

00:01:43.260 A year!

00:01:44.200 Every time I see you, I'm like, let's do it.

00:01:45.960 And you're like, I know, I know, and we have to make it happen.

00:01:47.760 And then I feel like I'm terrible at texting, which doesn't help.

00:01:51.760 Same.

00:01:52.120 But it's just kind of like, oh my God, I love you, I miss you.

00:01:54.320 When are you free?

00:01:54.800 I'm like, I'm free in a month and a half.

00:01:56.300 Yeah. 1.00

00:01:56.720 Fuck. 1.00

00:01:57.060 And then we never connect in a month. 1.00

00:01:58.340 Yeah.

00:01:59.240 We've been playing that phone tag for over a year.

00:02:01.380 But now we're here.

00:02:02.000 Well, also you were in school.

00:02:03.380 It's true.

00:02:03.760 You were being studious.

00:02:04.500 Yeah, I was being studious.

00:02:05.640 And now, yeah, and now I'm not.

00:02:06.980 Now you're free.

00:02:07.940 Now I'm free is a good way to describe it.

00:02:10.240 Tell everyone what you majored in.

00:02:12.600 I was a mechanical engineering major at Princeton University.

00:02:15.760 Yes.

00:02:16.080 And I did exactly what mommy and daddy wanted me to do.

00:02:18.420 And I am a DJ. 0.98

00:02:20.400 Now you're a rave rat. 0.80

00:02:22.420 Yeah, it's true. 0.90

00:02:23.180 Love that.

00:02:23.760 You're a raver, a rave-ee, and a rave DJ.

00:02:27.100 Yeah.

00:02:27.600 Love.

00:02:28.300 In the New York City. 0.98

00:02:29.440 I'm just silly and hilarious. 0.98

00:02:31.040 I'm just like a goofy little girl that loves to do a little two-step. 0.98

00:02:35.360 Mostly.

00:02:35.920 That's mostly what you do.

00:02:37.040 I love that.

00:02:37.580 Oh, I do lots of things.

00:02:38.780 Yes.

00:02:39.960 I'm so happy to have you.

00:02:41.280 I'm so glad you finally got to be on the show.

00:02:43.160 So first off, for those who don't know your lore, I know your lore.

00:02:46.000 I'm very familiar with it.

00:02:47.440 But you started TikTok when you were in college.

00:02:50.320 Yeah.

00:02:50.720 Correct?

00:02:50.920 So I kind of started it like when the pandemic hit and I went home.

00:02:56.200 And then I went AWOL for a moment because I was like, ooh, what am I doing with my life?

00:02:59.240 Kind of.

00:02:59.620 It just started out as a silly little thing that I did for fun.

00:03:02.040 And then I began to embark on this journey of self-expression for myself that I think

00:03:09.180 a lot of people related to.

00:03:10.580 Yeah, absolutely.

00:03:11.480 And a lot of it was just kind of like social, like political stuff.

00:03:15.440 A lot of it was like fashion and like gender identity, like fashion through gender identity.

00:03:22.320 And like my own, like, I don't know, just like journey on like coming into my own, coming

00:03:27.520 into my identity, like coming out like what, four times now?

00:03:31.240 It changes every month.

00:03:32.500 I'm not, you know, whatever.

00:03:33.940 I'm just, yeah.

00:03:34.880 But that's the beauty of it.

00:03:35.900 That's the beauty of your platform and having people like you exist on certain platforms,

00:03:41.480 especially because you see a different kind of representation, especially not just representation

00:03:47.080 in general, obviously, as being like a non-binary person or trans person in general, but also

00:03:51.740 navigating that journey of like discovering it, discovering what you like, discovering

00:03:56.920 what you don't like, like how you express yourself, whether it's through fashion or art.

00:04:01.240 Yeah.

00:04:01.340 You know what I mean?

00:04:01.800 It was beautiful.

00:04:02.360 I mean, I feel like I grew like alongside people.

00:04:05.480 Yeah.

00:04:05.900 And like in cultivating this community, it's weird that people like look up to me because

00:04:10.060 I feel like I look to like my like followers for like my own, like, like for advice and

00:04:15.420 for my own kind of like what to do next in my journey.

00:04:18.460 But yeah, I don't know.

00:04:20.180 It was like, it just kind of happened.

00:04:22.260 It just kind of snowballed.

00:04:23.300 And now here we are.

00:04:26.080 And yeah, I don't know.

00:04:27.320 I feel like I spread myself out really thin and like in terms like what content I create.

00:04:32.940 Oh, yeah.

00:04:33.340 Um, because I just kind of like, I don't know.

00:04:35.560 My content is just like, what am I doing today?

00:04:37.060 Like, I'm going to get dressed up or I'm going to go, um, I don't know, like wherever.

00:04:41.120 I'm going to go to Six Flags and make a meme about it.

00:04:43.180 Like, I think it was just kind of random, but all through the lens of like, I think my

00:04:47.840 own journey of like identity and self-expression.

00:04:50.320 And yeah.

00:04:50.680 Now here we are.

00:04:52.040 Well, how was that journey?

00:04:53.340 I'm so curious because I obviously when I went to college, like I, um, didn't have any

00:04:58.840 sort of platform at all.

00:04:59.860 I cringe to think if I did, um, if I had any sort of influence at that time, because it's

00:05:05.020 such a different time in your life.

00:05:06.480 Like you're going through, you're going through, um, almost like I call it like a pseudo adult

00:05:10.960 phase.

00:05:11.300 Like you're an adult, but you're not fully independent yet.

00:05:14.400 But you discover so many things about yourself and who you are.

00:05:18.200 And so how was that having navigating, having the platform while you were going to school

00:05:22.320 at the same time?

00:05:23.220 Was it, did it make it harder?

00:05:24.560 Did it make it weirder or was it more fun?

00:05:27.540 It was like, it's interesting because it was a little disjointed.

00:05:29.900 You know, I, I gained the following while I was like away from school because I was just

00:05:36.220 doing it online during the pandemic.

00:05:37.320 And then I had like a bit of a following, not I think enough to have like kind of like the

00:05:42.200 brand, you know, the like GMB LLC that we're, we're at right now.

00:05:45.760 But like, you know, I like returned to school and I was an athlete too.

00:05:50.120 I was a springboard diver at Princeton.

00:05:52.180 Um, so that was, it was, it was an interesting space to have a whole nother thing.

00:05:56.920 Yeah.

00:05:57.680 Saga after saga.

00:05:58.940 Um, but it was interesting.

00:06:00.700 I think it enhanced the college experience in that I had, I felt like I had this escape

00:06:05.000 that I didn't have like otherwise.

00:06:07.600 Um, I think Princeton is like a bit of a polarizing place.

00:06:10.420 Cause there's a lot of privilege in like being in a place like that, but at the same

00:06:12.940 time, like being somebody who like sticks out even a little bit, um, in such like an

00:06:18.760 uptight place, like immediately makes that experience a bit jarring.

00:06:23.340 Um, I think it was a useful resource.

00:06:26.440 It was a little bit isolating at times.

00:06:28.820 Um, also just because like, I felt like I was like adulting on the side, you know, I felt

00:06:32.980 like I, it was weird because school began to feel like the, like the side hustle, you know,

00:06:38.680 and then I'm like doing social media full time and I'm like going to my silly little

00:06:41.380 like engineering classes.

00:06:42.940 There's a robot that I built like, now it's fashion week.

00:06:46.280 But, um, yeah, I don't know.

00:06:48.360 I think, um, it taught me a lot, you know, it was, I didn't have free time like ever.

00:06:53.800 Yeah.

00:06:54.240 Um, cause you're working on and off the clock kind of thing.

00:06:56.980 Yeah.

00:06:57.120 Um, and that was like athletics too.

00:06:58.960 Like it just, I mean, it's part of the reason I ended up like retiring like a year early.

00:07:03.080 Um, because it was just like, I don't, I currently we're getting like a solid two hours to sleep

00:07:07.720 a night, which fun fact, not enough.

00:07:10.280 Yeah.

00:07:10.760 In case you weren't aware.

00:07:12.080 Right.

00:07:12.620 Um, but yeah, I don't know.

00:07:14.860 It's, it's, it's interesting now being on the other side of it and looking back and being

00:07:18.460 like, Oh, like how did I manage all of that?

00:07:21.840 How did I wear so many hats at once?

00:07:23.940 I don't even know how you did.

00:07:25.160 That's why I said like, I can only imagine how difficult that must've been.

00:07:29.080 And, and also so strange, like, because you're this entirely huge presence online and then

00:07:35.360 you're also going to school at the same time, like the navigating of that.

00:07:38.020 I can't even imagine.

00:07:38.780 Cause I got mine when I was an oldie.

00:07:40.740 So like when I was an older person, I got my platform.

00:07:44.980 Um, yeah, I don't know.

00:07:46.220 It was interesting.

00:07:47.100 It also, it, it sort of helped the, like the kind of like separation in that, like my,

00:07:52.420 like, you know, my fan base wasn't like Princeton students really.

00:07:55.780 It's just like, it was like random queer people around the world. 0.84

00:07:58.780 Like who were simultaneously having like a crisis in the mirror.

00:08:02.100 Yeah.

00:08:03.000 Um, sweet.

00:08:04.200 Yeah.

00:08:04.780 Do you, do you see a lot of, um, response from your audience where they're like, they

00:08:10.260 feel, um, represented by you?

00:08:12.700 Like, do they feel like you have made their, their own personal journeys, like easier navigating

00:08:18.120 like gender and self-expression and just like existing in the world as who you really want

00:08:22.800 to be perceived as?

00:08:23.920 Yeah.

00:08:24.360 I mean, like, that's kind of the reason I, like, I, I vividly remember like the moment

00:08:30.060 like which I was in, which I was like first like recognized in public and somebody came

00:08:33.940 up to me and they were just like, Oh, like I like your TikToks.

00:08:37.280 And I was like, Oh, thank you.

00:08:38.260 And then they were like, yeah, like, like watching you do what you do and just like exist, like

00:08:43.220 helped me realize like that I was non-binary and I was like, Oh, that's so sweet.

00:08:48.820 It was sweet.

00:08:49.280 It was a little terrifying for me.

00:08:50.480 I was like, I'm impacting people in ways that I can't even impact myself.

00:08:54.520 I've girl boss way too close.

00:08:56.000 Literally.

00:08:56.880 But, um, yeah, I mean like, I'm, it's the reason like I do it.

00:09:00.420 It's like hearing that like feedback and like listening to people speak about coming into

00:09:06.180 themselves and like coming into their identity.

00:09:09.000 Um, not like because of me, but like in tandem with me and like feeling inspired by me was

00:09:14.460 like, Oh, like, like people want this, like people like see this representation and it's

00:09:19.180 useful.

00:09:19.840 Yeah.

00:09:20.380 I'm going to keep being me as hard as I can.

00:09:22.580 Especially I think too, cause obviously you're known for your, um, outfits.

00:09:27.000 Yeah.

00:09:27.460 I was serving if you will.

00:09:29.880 Yeah.

00:09:30.640 Um, sometimes we're serving, um, hilarity.

00:09:33.440 Sometimes I just kind of get a rise out of people.

00:09:35.280 Yeah.

00:09:35.580 I love irony.

00:09:36.560 I'm a big fan of irony.

00:09:37.960 I think your outfits are so iconic and a lot of people have really gravitated towards you,

00:09:43.080 especially lately.

00:09:44.180 Cause like you've had the platform for a minute, but I feel like especially within the

00:09:47.600 last like year, your outfits have been like, people have been like, wow, that's like so

00:09:51.460 incredible.

00:09:52.040 Like, do you, uh, do you ever get a lot of questions about where you get your fashion

00:09:55.440 inspiration from?

00:09:56.700 Yeah.

00:09:57.040 I mean, I've, I speak about it sometimes cause I think like fashion was always like a,

00:10:01.920 um, like a tool I used to express myself.

00:10:04.380 Um, but it sort of changed when I like was living in New York and I started like working and

00:10:09.280 like, um, like having a presence in nightlife.

00:10:11.460 Um, cause I was always inspired by like the nineties club kids and like the aesthetic

00:10:15.360 of like, like drag queens and club kids and, you know, just like nightlife presences because

00:10:21.340 of how outrageous it was.

00:10:22.660 Yeah.

00:10:23.060 Um, and how it was such a vessel for like breaking the boundaries of expression in a

00:10:27.360 way that I think doesn't happen like anywhere else.

00:10:31.260 Like I think like specifically in nightclubs, people are like, there is like this essence

00:10:35.940 of like expression through like drama and like almost like a characterization.

00:10:40.740 Yeah.

00:10:41.400 Yeah.

00:10:41.680 Where it's like, look at me.

00:10:43.100 And I was like, I love that.

00:10:44.400 Like, I feel like we need to see this more.

00:10:47.740 Yeah.

00:10:48.080 And when I started doing it, it was more just like, it started out like I'm going to wear

00:10:51.960 something that I like.

00:10:52.660 And then it became like a, this is kind of like a political statement, you know, I want

00:10:56.540 to look iconic and I'm going to piss some people off. 0.94

00:10:58.500 Like I want to look, I want to look silly. 0.62

00:11:00.580 I want to like push the boundaries.

00:11:02.060 I want to be people question like what they like and why they like it.

00:11:05.380 Yeah.

00:11:07.200 And that, yeah, I don't know.

00:11:08.360 One day I wore a headlamp and the entire internet decided they were mad at me and I was like,

00:11:11.620 okay, let's just be silly. 0.91

00:11:14.080 They're pissed off at you. 0.97

00:11:15.220 Yeah.

00:11:15.580 They said you did too much.

00:11:16.900 Which I think is.

00:11:17.800 When I love doing too much.

00:11:18.740 Yeah.

00:11:19.040 Well, that's like your whole thing.

00:11:20.300 Yeah. 1.00

00:11:20.460 And I think that's so, first of all, cunt. 0.99

00:11:22.660 But second of all, I feel even with your platform, especially about your, your videos about your 0.98

00:11:28.180 fashion, what I love about it is you're constantly emphasizing that clothes are not gendered because

00:11:33.400 they aren't, they don't have genders.

00:11:35.700 You can wear literally anything you want whenever, all the time.

00:11:39.520 And at the same time, like you said, you're, you're pushing boundaries.

00:11:42.080 Like you're trying new silhouettes, you're trying new accessories, like stuff that's just

00:11:46.220 fun and it's self-expression. 0.99

00:11:48.000 And I love that shit. 1.00

00:11:49.420 I love a maximalist girl. 1.00

00:11:51.580 When I see maximalist fashion people on TikTok, I eat it up.

00:11:55.820 Oh, I love it.

00:11:56.100 I watch every second of it.

00:11:57.620 Some of the, I can't keep up with some of these girls. 1.00

00:11:59.200 You know, like Sarah Camps.

00:12:00.180 Yes.

00:12:00.580 I love her.

00:12:01.600 I love her.

00:12:02.360 Where are you getting these things, girl?

00:12:04.160 Yeah. 0.85

00:12:04.400 Just like a tiny Jewish girl. 1.00

00:12:06.020 Oh, Clara.

00:12:06.520 Same thing, Clara. 0.90

00:12:07.420 Love of my life.

00:12:08.160 Same thing.

00:12:08.480 I know.

00:12:08.800 And she dressed you.

00:12:09.620 I saw your guys' videos together.

00:12:10.860 She lives like up the road from me.

00:12:12.840 I absolutely love that kind of look because I feel like what's so cool, 0.98

00:12:19.420 cunt about it is like, you just would never think. 0.99

00:12:22.080 You would never think to put those pieces together. 0.93

00:12:24.220 Yeah.

00:12:24.340 And that's what fashion is.

00:12:25.140 It's art.

00:12:32.640 Have you had those kinds of like, this is so ugly, this is so like, I would never wear

00:12:37.280 this, blah, blah, blah.

00:12:38.200 Like those kinds of hate comments.

00:12:40.500 And like, that's like fuel for me.

00:12:42.280 I love that.

00:12:43.080 People are like, I hate this.

00:12:44.080 I was like, I'm going to wear it again.

00:12:46.140 You like save the comments.

00:12:47.400 Yeah.

00:12:48.200 Well, I also just, cause I, like at the end of the day, like it's just like fabric and

00:12:52.380 nonsense draped over somebody's body.

00:12:53.820 And like, for some reason, like people mad, right? 0.51

00:12:57.240 Yeah.

00:12:57.440 And like years of like conventional beauty standards, like forcing people to like feel

00:13:01.720 the need to present in a way, which is just based on like all types of prejudice, like

00:13:05.380 has like forced them into thinking like, Oh, like a man can't wear a skirt.

00:13:09.720 And I'm like, okay, watch me.

00:13:11.780 Like now what?

00:13:13.880 Your man can't wear a skirt. 1.00

00:13:15.280 Right.

00:13:15.720 Your man can't pull off a skirt. 1.00

00:13:17.720 You will be ashamed.

00:13:19.120 I think too, uh, even like, you know, it's so funny when I first started doing this and

00:13:25.120 I started going to events and stuff, like when I first started trying new kinds of silhouettes

00:13:30.680 or looks, like I remember getting like certain commentary where I was kind of like, well,

00:13:36.880 I felt great in it.

00:13:38.100 Like I thought it was kind of, so I wore it.

00:13:39.820 Right.

00:13:40.260 Right.

00:13:40.600 And then people are like, that's so ugly.

00:13:42.100 That's so this, that's so that.

00:13:43.640 Well, girl, when you get invited to a carpet, wear whatever you want. 0.83

00:13:46.420 Right.

00:13:47.040 And that's the tea, isn't it? 1.00

00:13:48.020 Bitch. 1.00

00:13:48.300 Like, we'll see how you look. 1.00

00:13:49.420 We'll see how you feel.

00:13:50.140 Yeah.

00:13:51.120 Whenever I see, like, I get commentary when they're like, that's so ugly.

00:13:54.540 I would never wear that.

00:13:55.740 One of the first things I do is I go and look at what they wear.

00:13:58.320 Oh, absolutely.

00:13:59.040 And I feel better.

00:14:00.200 So much better.

00:14:01.080 You feel instantly better.

00:14:01.560 Oh, wait. 1.00

00:14:01.800 It's always a bitch in sweatpants who's like, I hate this outfit. 1.00

00:14:04.620 And I'm like, I'm sure you do. 1.00

00:14:06.000 I'm sure you're going to pull it off. 0.98

00:14:07.240 I hate yours.

00:14:08.080 So I guess equals.

00:14:09.360 Yeah.

00:14:09.760 Yeah.

00:14:10.060 What's even crazier is like, if someone that was considered conventionally attractive by all facets 0.59

00:14:16.720 of bigotry, whatever, white supremacy.

00:14:18.660 Eurocentric beauty centers, whatever they may be.

00:14:20.080 Yeah.

00:14:20.220 But if someone wore that, then everyone would be like, oh, it's a shirt.

00:14:24.100 Oh, my God.

00:14:24.420 Oh, I hate it so much.

00:14:25.420 I hate it.

00:14:26.120 My biggest qualm right now is like, there's like, I feel like people are going back to

00:14:29.340 like minimalism in a way that just is like, I don't know.

00:14:31.780 I keep seeing those like breakdowns of like Jacob Lorty's fits.

00:14:33.900 And like, love him.

00:14:34.740 No hates him.

00:14:35.080 He looks great.

00:14:35.740 Like, but it's all very like casual clothing.

00:14:37.860 People are like dissecting the outfit.

00:14:39.760 I'm like, girl, he put on jeans and a cut off shirt and a little coach bag.

00:14:44.080 He looks great.

00:14:44.900 Yeah.

00:14:45.320 But it's not like, no, people.

00:14:46.920 It's not serving.

00:14:48.460 Right.

00:14:48.580 Like, it's not like, you know what I mean?

00:14:50.360 Like, I'm like, give it.

00:14:51.840 Sometimes I think it's like, give it to me.

00:14:53.440 I want to see it.

00:14:54.080 Like, I want you to serve me.

00:14:55.880 But I even, even so, like for me, I genuinely believe like fashion is art.

00:15:01.120 Right.

00:15:01.440 It's an art.

00:15:01.920 It's a self-expression.

00:15:03.120 So whatever you feel beautiful in, whatever you feel current in, that's what you should

00:15:06.660 wear.

00:15:06.940 Exactly.

00:15:07.400 And I just feel like don't throw stones if you're living in a glass house, girl. 0.96

00:15:11.040 So like when people say shit to me about my looks and I go and look and you're just 0.97

00:15:15.400 like a, don't throw stones from the Vineyard Vine store. 0.97

00:15:19.140 That's not like, if I go and look at what you're looking and your outfit is super plain

00:15:23.660 and boring to me, like, I mean, yeah, of course you're not going to like what I'm wearing.

00:15:27.960 Yeah.

00:15:28.140 I also just, I think people like who were like the first of their kind are never appreciated 1.00

00:15:33.040 in the moment.

00:15:33.460 You know, people like, like people like Julia Fox.

00:15:37.360 That's a perfect, that's a perfect example of someone who was serving it and they didn't

00:15:41.820 get her. 0.58

00:15:42.300 No one gets it.

00:15:43.120 At first they did not get her.

00:15:44.700 Before her time, I'm like, if you're before your time, it means that during your time

00:15:47.720 people hated you.

00:15:48.780 So I'm like, if people hate me now, I'm doing something right.

00:15:51.680 That's so T, especially someone like Julia, because her outfits, everyone, the way they 0.60

00:15:56.820 memed the hell out of her, they were trying so hard to make fun of her outfits and now

00:16:00.540 look, now everybody's recreating some of her iconic looks.

00:16:03.280 Everybody wants to be her.

00:16:04.700 She's ahead of her time.

00:16:05.940 What I loved about her too is the combination of the sexy and the grotesque, where it's 0.98

00:16:10.700 like, like, like, like a very cunt outfit, but there's also something weird about it. 0.99

00:16:14.980 You know, I'm like, yeah, I'd like that. 0.98

00:16:18.000 I want people to be confused as to why they're attracted to me.

00:16:20.660 I want people to look at me and be like, I'm into this.

00:16:22.500 Why am I into this?

00:16:23.100 They're confused and a little scared.

00:16:24.520 Right.

00:16:24.920 Yeah.

00:16:25.300 So it's because of their attraction.

00:16:26.780 They're like, why do I feel this way?

00:16:29.000 What's wrong with me?

00:16:30.700 Why do I feel like this?

00:16:31.920 Exactly.

00:16:32.260 That's so T. That's actually a really good point.

00:16:34.860 And, you know, Griffin was actually wearing a suit of armor at Fashion Week.

00:16:37.900 Oh my God.

00:16:39.160 A suit of armor and was photographed and it was posted everywhere.

00:16:42.740 Yeah.

00:16:42.780 Absolutely.

00:16:43.660 That was heavy, girl.

00:16:45.720 Is that actual suit of armor?

00:16:47.420 Literally sourced it from like a mutual of mine who was like the armor girl at FIT when

00:16:51.680 that video went viral of her wearing like a suit of armor. 1.00

00:16:54.820 And I was like, okay, like obviously we need to be friends.

00:16:57.320 Yeah.

00:16:58.140 Like, will you style me in the armor?

00:16:59.700 And she was like, let's do it.

00:17:00.980 Because I was just like, I don't know, Fashion Week, that was for the Clean Estrada show.

00:17:04.460 Yeah.

00:17:04.780 One of my favorite designers, Hilary Tamer.

00:17:06.780 Love.

00:17:07.060 Also, there's such like a, I don't know.

00:17:08.820 It's like awesome clothing and also just such like an attention to like detail in terms

00:17:12.880 of like sustainability, but yada, yada, yada.

00:17:15.480 Every time that's always my favorite show to like turn a look at because I'm just like,

00:17:19.440 I want to be kooky and crazy.

00:17:21.260 Like I want to show up.

00:17:22.720 I don't want people to like expect anything.

00:17:25.300 I want to show up and like completely blow away their expectations.

00:17:28.080 Yeah.

00:17:28.180 Because I think also like, like Fashion Week 2, there is like a, like a polarization in

00:17:33.260 the pageantry.

00:17:33.980 Like some people are looking to serve in a way that's very like palatable from like a commercial

00:17:38.500 sense.

00:17:38.800 I feel you.

00:17:39.240 And I'm like, that's my worst nightmare.

00:17:41.120 Like design it out.

00:17:42.280 Yeah.

00:17:42.740 Yeah.

00:17:42.920 Which like, I don't, I love a label.

00:17:45.060 Don't get me wrong.

00:17:46.060 Okay.

00:17:46.240 Yeah.

00:17:46.660 That being said, like if you're design it out, like quiet luxury is like my worst enemy.

00:17:51.420 I'm like, what do you mean quiet luxury?

00:17:52.760 You just mean boring clothes you spend too much money on.

00:17:56.080 Yeah.

00:17:56.540 And that's tea.

00:17:57.380 That's what I love about you though.

00:17:58.640 It's like, you're not afraid of a look.

00:18:00.880 That's why I love someone who's not afraid of a look.

00:18:03.200 No.

00:18:03.360 Like even someone like, if you think about someone like Zendaya, right, who's obviously

00:18:07.300 she's so high fashion. 0.50

00:18:08.280 She's so popular.

00:18:08.840 She's so famous.

00:18:09.360 She's so beautiful.

00:18:10.340 But when she was first coming out and she was trying new looks.

00:18:13.680 Yeah.

00:18:13.960 People were like, this is so ugly.

00:18:15.960 This is so, like when she wore that bubble hair at the kids choice awards, like her hair 0.70

00:18:19.520 was like churned in.

00:18:21.260 Everyone made fun of her. 0.65

00:18:22.080 Everyone was like, that's so ugly. 0.91

00:18:23.220 That's like, now look.

00:18:25.000 No, it's true.

00:18:25.740 I had a return.

00:18:26.120 I miss like the, like the swag, like over filtered Zendaya from like the two and tens, you know,

00:18:31.320 which it's like the mirror, like Instagram filter.

00:18:33.960 I was, she was taking it.

00:18:34.480 Oh yeah.

00:18:34.720 She was ahead of her time.

00:18:35.820 Right.

00:18:36.100 She was right off.

00:18:37.100 Shake it up.

00:18:37.600 Fresh off.

00:18:38.020 Shake it up.

00:18:38.380 Fresh off.

00:18:39.060 Shake it up.

00:18:40.180 She had nothing but like, I don't know.

00:18:41.960 A hoodie and a point to prove.

00:18:43.920 Exactly.

00:18:44.920 Yeah.

00:18:46.360 Literally a cheetah print pant.

00:18:48.220 Exactly.

00:18:48.660 And a dream.

00:18:49.320 What a time.

00:18:51.400 Who would you say is your like fashion inspo as of right now?

00:18:57.000 I know, I'm sure it changes some staples other than you.

00:19:00.540 You're mine.

00:19:01.320 God, it really does change like a lot.

00:19:03.580 Yeah.

00:19:05.300 Oh God.

00:19:06.540 I've been trying to like pay more attention to like designers.

00:19:09.960 Just because whatever, like I work in fashion now. 0.99

00:19:11.720 I'm like, I need to know my shit. 0.99

00:19:13.240 Before I was just like, this looks crazy. 0.99

00:19:14.800 Let's wear it.

00:19:16.740 Like, okay.

00:19:19.060 Like designer wise, like I like kind of have been living and dying by Glenn Martins.

00:19:22.580 Like I love everything he does.

00:19:23.740 Like Diesel, Y Project, whatever.

00:19:25.120 Yeah.

00:19:25.300 I'm going to have it.

00:19:25.940 In terms of like, like long-term influence, like in my fashion.

00:19:30.140 I mean, there are like some of my peers.

00:19:31.420 Like staples.

00:19:31.960 Yeah.

00:19:32.320 I mean, Clara, like Tiny Jewish Girl has always inspired me.

00:19:35.120 Love.

00:19:35.340 Love.

00:19:35.360 Same with Sarah Camps. 0.95

00:19:36.200 I think like when I first started doing like the club looks, it was a lot of like James

00:19:40.960 St. James and even like Amanda Lepore and like, like the club kids of like the day.

00:19:45.760 I mean, also just like.

00:19:46.380 Amanda Lepore is such an icon. 0.99

00:19:47.900 Oh God.

00:19:48.300 I love that woman with all my heart.

00:19:50.420 Every time I see her, I'm like, oh, you look so beautiful.

00:19:51.940 It's just.

00:19:52.160 And then she's off with the nightmare.

00:19:55.120 Cool.

00:19:56.060 She just disappears.

00:19:57.400 She's got places to be.

00:19:58.320 Yeah.

00:19:58.600 The girl is booked.

00:19:59.520 So what can I say?

00:20:00.660 I guarantee it.

00:20:01.380 Yeah.

00:20:02.880 God, I don't know.

00:20:04.000 It's hard to pinpoint like style icons for me because I feel like my taste fluctuates

00:20:08.500 so frequently too.

00:20:09.460 But I love that though.

00:20:10.320 Because then it's just ever evolving.

00:20:11.960 Like you have some people that you constantly reference or go back to.

00:20:15.500 And then you have people that, new people that kind of appear.

00:20:17.900 Yeah.

00:20:18.280 I'm like just now dipping my like very, very, very one singular toe into fashion.

00:20:24.620 I'm like just barely getting into it.

00:20:27.140 It is like an industrial complex.

00:20:28.760 There's so much going on.

00:20:29.840 There is so much going on, girl.

00:20:31.640 You don't even know what to look at.

00:20:33.180 And even for myself, like as like I'm a bigger girl, even when I had talked to stylists,

00:20:37.820 because I'm sure you style yourself.

00:20:39.400 Yeah.

00:20:39.580 Obviously, right.

00:20:40.260 Because you're, you're literally, you have the brain to style yourself.

00:20:43.220 So I, when I talk to stylists, I so often, like because I'm so curious, have you thought

00:20:49.660 about going into styling at all or fashion in general?

00:20:52.420 I have.

00:20:53.100 I think it makes me nervous just because I think my like fashion is so eclectic that

00:20:57.320 I'm going to be like, you're going to look great in this.

00:20:58.700 People are going to be like, what are you talking about?

00:21:00.400 You're like two, just a pair of rubber gloves.

00:21:02.680 I've thought about it.

00:21:03.360 It's definitely like on my, like my radar.

00:21:05.840 Yeah.

00:21:06.800 I've styled people before.

00:21:08.280 Yeah.

00:21:08.600 Um, and I really enjoy doing it, but sometimes like I get carried away and I'm like, let's

00:21:13.480 make it crazy.

00:21:14.220 And they're like, girl, like I gotta be on camera.

00:21:17.400 You're like, I'm going to be photographed.

00:21:18.860 Yeah, exactly.

00:21:20.260 I want people to remember this.

00:21:21.380 Yeah.

00:21:22.300 I just think you would soar in that, in that realm too.

00:21:24.980 If you ever thought about either styling or making your own line or anything like that.

00:21:28.640 Should we dress you up right now? 0.53

00:21:29.740 Oh, love, let's do it.

00:21:31.020 The star doll edition.

00:21:31.980 What I love too is like people like yourself, I think would be so impactful in the industry

00:21:44.300 too.

00:21:44.940 Someone who's just got a completely different brain outside of it.

00:21:48.740 I love that.

00:21:49.500 I'm obsessed with it.

00:21:50.220 Thank you.

00:21:50.540 Because even like, as I like start going into styling more, like I have stylists now and

00:21:56.160 even now it's like, it's harder for myself as like a bigger girl.

00:21:59.280 Cause I'm like, I'm tall and I'm thick.

00:22:00.860 Yeah.

00:22:01.340 So just getting styled in general is a nightmare.

00:22:03.700 Yeah.

00:22:03.980 But even when I, especially when I want to serve, I want to serve, I want to do something

00:22:08.340 crazy.

00:22:08.860 I want to do something awesome.

00:22:10.240 And it's harder for me cause I'm like a bigger girl.

00:22:12.620 Wait, absolutely.

00:22:13.180 So that's why I feel like someone like yourself with your brain, the way it works.

00:22:16.260 I would love to.

00:22:17.260 I would love that.

00:22:18.020 Yeah.

00:22:18.260 I also, especially like things like fashion week, like there's not really attention to

00:22:22.660 like body diversity and things like that.

00:22:24.300 Oh yeah, girl. 0.86

00:22:25.580 You're telling me.

00:22:27.320 And me and Griffin were talking about it offline.

00:22:29.080 Like fashion week is not nearly as fun as you may think it is.

00:22:32.500 Oh my God.

00:22:33.160 No, I, again, when I tell you.

00:22:34.780 And Griffin's been to way more than I have.

00:22:36.420 I've only been to like one and a half.

00:22:38.240 When I tell you I was ill afterwards, I was in bed for like a week.

00:22:41.400 Everyone was like, how was fashion week?

00:22:43.100 I'm like, it was, it was good.

00:22:44.460 Yeah.

00:22:44.740 It was good.

00:22:45.220 From what I remember, it was great.

00:22:46.560 Right.

00:22:47.620 Like the flash before my eyes a few times.

00:22:49.640 Yeah, it's literally no sleeping and everyone is running off literally nothing but caffeine.

00:22:56.460 Yeah. 1.00

00:22:56.740 Well, also like the shows that people love to do their shows in like stupid places because 0.93

00:23:01.560 it's all about like, you know, it's all about the pageantry of it all. 0.97

00:23:04.000 Yeah.

00:23:04.280 I literally, I had a video of this.

00:23:05.720 It was me like riding my bike to Rockefeller, like riding a city bike to Rockefeller Center

00:23:09.620 because I'm like, I'm not taking like a $40 Uber black, but me.

00:23:12.700 Like I, uh-uh.

00:23:14.000 Because they're in the most random places.

00:23:15.520 Like, if I did it to every show, I'd be like, I'm not making money from these events.

00:23:19.640 So like, what now?

00:23:21.440 Literally, there's no money involved, like at all.

00:23:24.100 Unless someone gets paid to do a brand deal with a specific designer, like there is no

00:23:27.780 money.

00:23:28.140 You're just going and spending money.

00:23:29.380 And that being said, like I, I mean, I go to the shows that I like.

00:23:31.480 Like I go and I watch like, because I love the artistry of it all.

00:23:35.580 Yeah.

00:23:36.220 And it's good because I don't get invited to the boring shows.

00:23:38.080 So it's like, I only go to the crazy ones, which I love.

00:23:40.200 Yeah.

00:23:40.700 But even the scene itself is very influencer-y.

00:23:44.980 Yeah.

00:23:45.520 It is.

00:23:46.000 It's very, very much so that.

00:23:47.520 That was my first, when you and I saw each other, we saw each other at the TikTok Fashion

00:23:50.900 Week event.

00:23:52.080 And when we talked about it, I was telling you, I'm like, I, this is my first ever fashion

00:23:56.520 week, like full fashion week.

00:23:57.940 I have never been surrounded by so many people that are like, uh, the, the textbook definition

00:24:04.200 of what you would hate as an influencer.

00:24:06.180 Everyone is like, like pushing in front of each other, being in front of the camera.

00:24:09.340 Girl, they're not going to put that anywhere.

00:24:10.680 And that is not a joke.

00:24:12.020 Like that is so real.

00:24:13.440 They are, they're mean and they're rude and everyone is in a bad mood.

00:24:17.160 Yeah.

00:24:17.380 Probably because nobody's slept or eaten in days.

00:24:20.060 Bad mood.

00:24:20.720 And it's also, everyone is like trying to prove something.

00:24:23.400 It's true.

00:24:24.360 It's so true. 0.84

00:24:25.380 And I was, I did not expect that when I went.

00:24:27.700 I did not expect that at all.

00:24:28.820 That's what half the time I was like, the night would end and people are like, you know,

00:24:31.200 this after party.

00:24:31.740 I'm like, no, I'm going to go either to bed or I'm going to go to like a rave where I

00:24:34.460 know nobody. 0.67

00:24:35.320 I'm going to go, I'm going to go to the dirtiest, stinkiest warehouse, like drip down whatever 0.92

00:24:40.060 I was wearing that day and just shades on and ignore you all. 0.84

00:24:43.700 It's going to be great.

00:24:45.080 Speaking of, I saw that you were Stefan for Halloween.

00:24:49.120 Like a long time in the making.

00:24:50.260 I've been waiting to do that costume for so long.

00:24:51.800 Stefan is so you coded.

00:24:53.860 The character itself is so you coded.

00:24:55.440 No, it's all about the nightlife and weird.

00:24:58.380 Hottest club.

00:24:59.740 Yeah.

00:25:00.940 And weird. 1.00

00:25:02.100 I kind of got my ass. 0.99

00:25:06.420 Yeah. 0.99

00:25:06.920 Wait, I only did one Halloween costume this year because six days in a row, like you've

00:25:11.800 got to be kidding me.

00:25:12.640 This is a lot of money.

00:25:13.760 I'm tired.

00:25:14.760 I'm not that creative.

00:25:15.840 Like I'm, you know, I'm good at what I do, but not that good.

00:25:18.620 Yeah.

00:25:20.160 It's beating the hell out of you after that.

00:25:22.080 I DJed at like Boom Boom Room for Halloween night, which is like, I don't know, they do

00:25:27.280 like the Met Gala after parties there.

00:25:28.380 It's like New York's hottest club, which like, you know, whatever.

00:25:31.020 But I don't know.

00:25:31.520 I was like, I should be Stefan.

00:25:33.020 Like, this is the night to do it.

00:25:34.120 Yeah.

00:25:35.360 I had people be like, I didn't even see you DJing because of the wig.

00:25:38.160 Because they didn't know it was me.

00:25:39.380 They were like, you weren't even there. 0.99

00:25:40.180 They were like, who is this bitch with the Bayang and the Ed Hardy? 1.00

00:25:42.660 I'm like, yeah, girl. 1.00

00:25:44.720 You were in a wig.

00:25:45.880 You were wigged.

00:25:46.540 Yeah.

00:25:46.760 I mean, like, shake and go.

00:25:48.460 Still.

00:25:48.940 Right.

00:25:49.560 You shook and you went.

00:25:50.500 I shook.

00:25:50.880 He shook and you went.

00:25:53.340 Okay.

00:25:54.020 So speaking of dressing, we're talking about our topic today is navigating gender expression

00:26:00.380 online as a creator, as a person, whatever it may be.

00:26:04.180 So for those of you who don't know, what we do here on the comment section is we bring

00:26:06.880 videos that I was tagged in that are applicable to our topic today.

00:26:10.540 And then we'll laugh, make fun of it, kiki, whatever. 0.98

00:26:13.580 Yeah.

00:26:13.780 Whatever it requires.

00:26:15.840 So for this first video, in this video, a person is explaining a very basic breakdown

00:26:21.740 of how adjusting your language to use they, them pronouns really isn't that complicated.

00:26:26.480 They say how you can just address one person the same way you would address a group of people

00:26:30.260 and that they, them pronouns have actually been used to address individuals dating back

00:26:34.420 to Shakespearean times, which we all know.

00:26:37.740 And for some reason, people resist.

00:26:39.740 And so obviously, Griffin is non-binary.

00:26:42.960 So Griffin goes by they, them.

00:26:44.020 Believe me or not, as someone who has multiple non-binary friends, it's not nearly as hard

00:26:48.040 as people try to make it seem.

00:26:50.360 They act like it's the most impossible task.

00:26:52.880 Yeah.

00:26:53.360 And it's like, well, if you just talk to them like normal humans, it's pretty easy.

00:26:56.700 It's like you're out of breath.

00:26:57.880 I'm trying to pick another pronoun.

00:26:58.780 Yeah.

00:26:59.920 Also, because I, the people who are complaining about it, I'm like, I can't imagine you have

00:27:02.920 to use it very often.

00:27:04.360 I'm telling you.

00:27:04.940 Like, I'm telling you.

00:27:05.660 Like, how many, how many non-binary people are you around on a daily basis?

00:27:08.960 Who are you interacting with that's non-binary on a regular basis? 1.00

00:27:12.400 Right.

00:27:12.660 But also, even when you talk to your cis friends, you don't gender them all the time while you're 0.52

00:27:17.280 talking.

00:27:17.800 It's not very, like, that's not natural anyways.

00:27:20.420 I always think of it like, like, people use the comparison of, like, if somebody's absent,

00:27:23.880 you don't know their gender, then, like, people default to that.

00:27:26.200 They'll be like, oh, someone lost their jacket.

00:27:27.800 I'm like, oh, what was that?

00:27:28.780 Oh, so you do know how to do it.

00:27:30.120 Yeah, when they say that, you're like, I'm not doing those pronouns.

00:27:33.680 Do you do that every time?

00:27:34.820 Right.

00:27:35.340 It seems like it's such a impossible task for someone who I think is going out of their

00:27:41.080 way to be bigoted.

00:27:42.280 Exactly.

00:27:42.820 So, of course, it's going to be hard for you.

00:27:44.340 Right.

00:27:44.660 Because you're trying to harm people.

00:27:47.120 Literally.

00:27:47.440 Like, you're literally trying to hurt people.

00:27:49.280 Like, so, yeah, I mean, it's probably going to be harder for you.

00:27:51.780 I mean, I love the fantasy of it all.

00:27:53.480 I like when people can't figure out what to call me.

00:27:55.480 You know, and they're like, she, and I'm like, uh-huh, keep going.

00:27:58.880 Try another one.

00:27:59.540 Make up a new one if you want.

00:28:00.840 Like, I, you know?

00:28:01.960 Because at the end of the day, like, I don't know.

00:28:03.400 I think I see people who are so, like, so bent on, like, offending you because they

00:28:08.100 don't, like, they don't believe in you, basically.

00:28:09.980 Yeah.

00:28:10.640 They don't, like, believe.

00:28:11.360 The existence of you.

00:28:12.160 Right.

00:28:12.700 Yeah.

00:28:13.060 Where it's just, like, you know what?

00:28:14.280 Like, if you're that hell-bent on, like, not acknowledging me as a person, just don't

00:28:17.980 acknowledge, like, no pronouns.

00:28:19.220 Do not refer to me ever.

00:28:20.360 Yeah.

00:28:20.800 Because, like, what's the thing?

00:28:21.420 Forget about me, actually.

00:28:22.380 Right.

00:28:22.580 Yeah.

00:28:23.300 Like, erase your mind.

00:28:24.380 Walk away.

00:28:24.820 Close your eyes.

00:28:25.420 Yeah.

00:28:25.660 Because at the end of the day, like, it's not, like, a hard request.

00:28:29.740 And I think that the people who are, like, so hell-bent on, like, disobeying it are just

00:28:34.120 looking to offend you, you know?

00:28:35.460 Truly.

00:28:36.120 That's why they're trying, like, actively trying to, like, resist being inclusive, which

00:28:41.600 I'm always, like, inclusivity costs you nothing.

00:28:44.420 Nothing.

00:28:45.100 Nothing at all.

00:28:46.240 And like you said, just don't address me at all, then, if it's really that part of a

00:28:50.300 task.

00:28:50.760 Like, it's okay.

00:28:51.380 You don't have to talk about me.

00:28:52.820 Literally ever.

00:28:53.740 That's okay.

00:28:54.480 You can do that.

00:28:55.340 That's totally fine.

00:28:57.140 And honestly, non-binary people, even in my experience with having non-binary friends,

00:29:01.980 like, they are so patient and, like, they are not, like, jumping down your throat if

00:29:08.340 you misgender them or anything. 0.53

00:29:10.520 Like, they shouldn't have to be that way, but they are, which is so sweet.

00:29:15.380 It just makes me feel even worse that people are so awful for no reason.

00:29:18.200 Like, on purpose.

00:29:19.080 I think also just, like, the world is very gendered, you know?

00:29:21.900 Yeah.

00:29:22.000 Like, the Western world is, like, I don't know, they love gender here. 0.99

00:29:24.680 It's, like, here in Italy, it's, like, their favorite thing.

00:29:28.160 But, like, I think because of that and because, like, of how, like, overexposed we are to,

00:29:33.680 like, the norms associated with, like, gender and, like, how we associate gender with, like,

00:29:38.080 sex and just, like, familial existence and, like, yada, yada, yada.

00:29:41.540 Like, I could go on and on about, like, the American dream and all that BS.

00:29:44.320 Yeah.

00:29:45.040 But, like, I think, like, because of that, like, I, like, understand that even for people

00:29:50.520 who are, like, very loving and caring and, like, want to be, like, respectful that, like,

00:29:54.400 no one's going to mess up.

00:29:55.560 Not only are people going to mess up, like, you are trained to mess up.

00:29:58.600 Like, they don't want, like, people to defy these boundaries that they've set up for them.

00:30:03.760 They want to be able to categorize people.

00:30:05.800 Absolutely.

00:30:06.000 So, like, when people, like, I don't know.

00:30:07.820 Having said, like, I get nervous correcting pronouns from people.

00:30:10.520 Like, I don't know why.

00:30:11.460 I just, I feel like I'm, like, I feel like I'm going to say it.

00:30:13.700 People are going to be, like, oh, like, whatever.

00:30:15.880 You're going to dye your hair blue?

00:30:16.980 And I'm, like, maybe.

00:30:17.740 Like, I don't know.

00:30:18.600 I don't know.

00:30:19.100 Check in with me in a week.

00:30:19.860 Right.

00:30:20.220 You never know.

00:30:21.720 But even that, like, I don't know.

00:30:22.940 Like, that's why, like, it never really bothers me when people get it wrong.

00:30:26.400 Because also, like, 99% of the time if I correct somebody, they're going to be, like, oh, I'm so sorry.

00:30:31.200 And I'm, like, no, it's not that deep.

00:30:32.260 Like, you're fine.

00:30:32.800 Just, you know, now you know.

00:30:34.040 Yeah.

00:30:34.500 So we adjust.

00:30:35.280 Yeah.

00:30:35.660 I mean, when people, you know, second or third time, I'm, like, okay.

00:30:39.000 That's on purpose.

00:30:39.560 Yeah.

00:30:39.800 We're going to hang it in.

00:30:40.760 You know?

00:30:42.540 But at the end of the day, it's just, like, I think if you're willing to take the time to just, like, hear somebody out.

00:30:48.920 Like, that's all I kind of need.

00:30:50.300 Yeah.

00:30:50.520 Just want, you know, the motivation.

00:30:52.220 Try.

00:30:52.740 Because it's not.

00:30:53.440 The thing is, when you try, you quickly realize it's not that hard.

00:30:56.700 It really isn't.

00:30:57.840 As someone who has not, not only has non-binary friends and trans friends in general, but also has talked to them for extensive periods of time.

00:31:06.960 Yeah.

00:31:07.300 It's really not that hard.

00:31:09.300 Like, it's, to make it seem like it's such a chore is truly just, like, you just don't want to do it.

00:31:15.500 Yeah. 0.95

00:31:15.740 Because you're a bad person. 0.99

00:31:16.900 So, there you go. 0.97

00:31:17.240 I just think people, like, the media has painted, like, well, they painted trans people as, like, aggressors, I think.

00:31:22.820 Truly. 0.99

00:31:23.060 In a way that, like, I don't know, it roots from, like, trying to, like, masculinize trans women, and I think it's, like, fucked up for all sorts of reasons. 0.99

00:31:28.500 Yeah. 0.96

00:31:28.720 But, like, I think people and, like, the conservative, like, alt-right of it all, like, have this perception that if you misgender trans person, they're gonna, like, beat you up.

00:31:36.800 And I'm like, girl, like, if somebody misgenders me, like, the first thing that happens is I correct them.

00:31:41.400 Yeah.

00:31:41.640 And the second thing that happens is I leave.

00:31:43.100 Like, I'm, like, I'm bored.

00:31:44.300 Like, I have better things to do than to be referred to something that I'm not.

00:31:47.100 Well, and also, like, you think that all, like, you just think trans people are looking for cis people to attack.

00:31:55.180 Like, they don't hang out with, they want you to leave them alone.

00:31:58.420 Like, they don't want you to.

00:31:59.080 You can't come into the club.

00:32:00.180 Yeah. 1.00

00:32:00.460 You're not cunt enough. 1.00

00:32:01.240 You're not trans enough. 1.00

00:32:03.480 It's, like, they don't want to be your friend. 0.65

00:32:05.600 They want you to leave them alone.

00:32:07.200 Right.

00:32:07.320 Like, it's truly, it's all a smokescreen.

00:32:10.160 Like, the same thing I've talked about, I even talked about it recently with someone where I was talking about how the war on drag that happened, like, all this year and last year was literally, well, obviously, they're attacking just queer people in general.

00:32:22.400 But it's a smokescreen for trans people. 1.00

00:32:25.500 Like, they're trying to attack trans people all the time, every time. 1.00

00:32:28.500 And it's exhausting and stupid. 1.00

00:32:29.840 And I hate it. 1.00

00:32:30.500 And so, I feel like that rhetoric of, like, them just, like, trans people are just waiting to, like, attack you for something, it's just so not true. 1.00

00:32:39.580 They want you to leave them the fuck alone. 0.99

00:32:41.400 Like, that's it. 1.00

00:32:42.260 Like, just leave me alone and I'll leave you alone.

00:32:44.120 Exactly.

00:32:44.620 Deal.

00:32:45.060 Like, let's just, like.

00:32:45.880 At the end of the day, like, I don't know.

00:32:47.060 I don't surround myself with people who don't.

00:32:48.980 Exactly.

00:32:49.500 You know, who don't get it.

00:32:50.700 Like, if you don't get it, I'm avoiding you.

00:32:52.380 Yeah, exactly.

00:32:53.340 I don't want to spend time with you.

00:32:55.140 I'm not looking to, like, you know, meet halfway. 0.98

00:32:57.240 Like, if you're not down with the shit, like, if you're not here to, like, respect my identity, like, that's okay. 0.99

00:33:02.700 Go somewhere else. 1.00

00:33:03.680 Exactly.

00:33:04.220 They're going to love you in, like, Milwaukee or whatever.

00:33:07.840 And it's, like, it's in the same kind of neighborhood where sometimes people will ask me, like, oh, is this how you treat men, you know, that you hang out with or whatever?

00:33:15.860 And I'm like, I don't hang out with misogynist girl.

00:33:19.360 Literally. 0.99

00:33:19.380 Like, when I meet a man I fucking hate, he knows I hate him and I never see him again. 0.99

00:33:24.540 That's kind of how it works for me. 0.99

00:33:25.740 So, like, I don't hang out with them.

00:33:26.800 Just the same way I don't hang out with homophobes, I don't hang out with racists.

00:33:29.620 Well, it's also just, like, I feel like people like that don't understand that, like, there is, like, an incompatibility that exists in being around those people.

00:33:36.120 And it's far beyond your identity.

00:33:37.880 Yeah.

00:33:38.140 We have nothing in common.

00:33:39.440 What are we going to talk about?

00:33:40.960 Yeah, what are we going to talk about?

00:33:41.480 Like, Lady Gaga, they don't know who that is. 0.71

00:33:43.680 Yeah.

00:33:45.140 Like, what are we going to key about?

00:33:46.680 Right.

00:33:46.960 We got nothing to talk about.

00:33:48.300 That's why I'm like, it goes far beyond just morals.

00:33:51.340 Yeah.

00:33:51.860 It's also just interest.

00:33:53.220 Like, we don't share any.

00:33:54.520 No.

00:33:54.860 We have zero.

00:33:55.780 We have nothing in common.

00:33:56.840 I'm never going to bump into you.

00:33:58.300 Like, we don't frequent the same places.

00:34:00.220 Yeah, we don't shop.

00:34:00.800 I haven't been to a Bass Pro Shops unless I was filming a video making fun of Bass Pro Shops.

00:34:05.360 Me.

00:34:05.700 Literally me.

00:34:06.640 I was like, I'm never going to run into you.

00:34:08.480 We're never going to see each other.

00:34:09.740 It's fine.

00:34:10.100 Like, we have nothing in common far beyond them being a bigot.

00:34:14.460 Like, we have nothing in common.

00:34:22.120 So, this comment says, as if life isn't stressful enough, now these people.

00:34:28.800 Oh, my God.

00:34:29.340 These people.

00:34:29.440 Well, you're stressing yourself out.

00:34:31.140 Right.

00:34:31.380 I don't sit around stressing about what non-binary people are up to.

00:34:36.960 I have a job.

00:34:38.440 I have club clubs.

00:34:38.860 I own businesses.

00:34:40.020 Yeah.

00:34:40.860 Exactly.

00:34:41.600 Club.

00:34:42.100 Club.

00:34:42.560 Another club.

00:34:43.100 Exactly.

00:34:43.260 That's your whole life.

00:34:43.980 Oh, my God.

00:34:44.880 Don't tell people.

00:34:46.440 Do I look good with the bags under my eyes?

00:34:49.080 Yes.

00:34:49.560 You couldn't even tell.

00:34:50.320 Oh, my God.

00:34:50.840 Couldn't even tell.

00:34:51.880 Beautiful.

00:34:52.240 Yeah, wait.

00:34:54.580 Now these people.

00:34:55.580 Like, this is the issue confronting the world.

00:34:57.940 Like, do you, like, I don't get it.

00:34:59.620 Like, do you, like, feel like you walk into Stop and Shop and someone, like, spanks a pronoun

00:35:02.480 pin on your forehead?

00:35:03.540 Like, when is this happening to you?

00:35:04.660 What are your pronouns?

00:35:06.300 That's why.

00:35:06.820 Show me your pronouns.

00:35:07.720 Like, hand over the pronoun.

00:35:09.500 Put it in the bag.

00:35:10.500 Immediately.

00:35:11.220 Right.

00:35:11.660 It's the same as when people started putting them on, like, their Zooms or their emails

00:35:16.840 or even their social media profiles.

00:35:19.100 They're like, uh.

00:35:20.240 Yeah.

00:35:21.120 Another one of these.

00:35:22.360 It's also, I feel like, because it upsets people to, like, have to acknowledge that queer 0.96

00:35:26.580 people exist.

00:35:27.660 You know?

00:35:28.340 Like, that's why it was given, like, pronouns in bio and pronoun in your Zoom name.

00:35:32.060 And it was like, oh, my God, they're everywhere.

00:35:33.600 And I'm like, they've been here the whole time.

00:35:35.920 Longer than you, probably.

00:35:36.740 Longer than any of us.

00:35:38.340 Truly.

00:35:38.540 Queer people have been around forever.

00:35:39.920 Truly.

00:35:40.060 Queer people have always existed. 0.99

00:35:41.800 You're just mad because you liked the fantasy that you had that everyone, like, lived within

00:35:47.720 the same sad confine that you feel restricted to.

00:35:50.460 Period.

00:35:51.280 And that's a word.

00:35:51.960 And you know what?

00:35:52.660 I've talked about this.

00:35:53.780 It's so funny, too, because I kicked a very different hornet's nest than I typically do

00:35:59.120 on TikTok a few months back. 0.99

00:36:01.660 Because I was addressing this one guy who was saying, like, he had made some fuck-ass 0.99

00:36:06.580 video about, like, oh, take her out of her masculine era and put her in her feminine 1.00

00:36:11.060 era, which is bullshit. 0.96

00:36:12.740 And so I talked about in the video, like, this is one of the few times people on the 0.99

00:36:16.760 internet, like, get to hear me not be like, suck my wiener, eh. 0.97

00:36:19.400 Yeah. 0.99

00:36:19.780 Right?

00:36:19.980 I'm, like, actually trying to, like, educate you to some extent.

00:36:22.780 Yeah. 0.80

00:36:22.920 And I'm, like, I think this is garbage for multiple reasons, one of them being it's just 0.95

00:36:26.480 a smokescreen. 0.99

00:36:27.740 It's a facade.

00:36:29.200 It's misogyny veiled, right?

00:36:31.560 But I was, like, but more importantly, like, a lot of them, even some women were really, 1.00

00:36:36.740 well, you don't agree with men, you know, women who want to be taken care of. 0.98

00:36:39.980 I'm, like, that's not what I said.

00:36:41.460 I said that this argument is hidden underneath this, like, veil of, like, oh, I just want to

00:36:46.900 take care of you.

00:36:47.600 Yeah.

00:36:48.020 And I was, like, but the masculine feminine era, like, energy thing, you cannot gender 0.72

00:36:52.400 energy because it's not tangible or real.

00:36:55.040 Right.

00:36:55.320 And on top of that, gender's not real. 0.83

00:36:57.780 Right. 1.00

00:36:58.180 And that, when I said that, ooh, the spiritual girls were up my fucking ass, bitch. 1.00

00:37:03.840 They were so mad at me. 1.00

00:37:05.160 And they were, like, that's not true.

00:37:06.860 Like, masculine energy and eras are real, blah, blah, blah.

00:37:09.920 I'm, like, gender's not real. 0.67

00:37:11.300 And if you do any sort of historical research at all, you would find that out, too, because

00:37:17.560 gender is a man-made construct and it's a byproduct of colonization and white supremacy. 1.00

00:37:22.320 And I was, like, my own culture had no genders.

00:37:25.820 We had multiple genders, actually, prior to being colonized.

00:37:28.780 Now it's a gender binary, but that's because of colonization. 0.95

00:37:31.940 Right.

00:37:31.960 Absolutely.

00:37:32.380 And I was, like, that's how most cultures were, like, before colonization.

00:37:35.640 So, when people operate within, like, within neither gender binary, that has been around

00:37:42.800 long, long, long before.

00:37:45.560 Way before, like, the binary became, like, the popular metric.

00:37:48.420 Way, way, way before.

00:37:49.900 That's why I was, like, that has been around longer than you could even believe, if I'm

00:37:53.180 being honest.

00:37:53.760 So, like, the fact that now, in modern times, people are having a discussion about non-binary

00:37:59.780 people doesn't make it new.

00:38:01.660 No.

00:38:01.880 I was, like, just because you just found out yesterday doesn't mean that they appeared

00:38:05.980 yesterday.

00:38:06.800 Yeah.

00:38:07.000 I always find it interesting, too, when, like, post-colonial spiritualism, like, starts to,

00:38:12.360 like, overwrite, like, kind of, like, where these practices come from and, like, the communities

00:38:16.680 which they come from.

00:38:17.380 Because it's, like, if you're then taking, like, modern, like, white supremacist ideas

00:38:21.360 and, like, rewriting the same file and, like, putting it over, like, what you think you're

00:38:26.460 practicing, like, you're not only doing a disservice, like, to yourself, but to, like, history.

00:38:31.440 Right, truly.

00:38:32.700 Like, culture and history.

00:38:33.640 Yeah.

00:38:33.900 Like, the spiritual practice that you're colonizing or taking, you're, like you said, rewriting

00:38:38.820 it.

00:38:39.060 Yeah.

00:38:39.440 And that's why I was saying it's crazy to me because there are people in my own culture,

00:38:44.740 too, that do not operate within either.

00:38:46.900 Right.

00:38:47.620 It's very, I think they're called two-spirit, too, in Native Indigenous cultures.

00:38:51.260 And so, in Native American cultures.

00:38:52.980 So, it's very common.

00:38:54.300 It's happened for centuries.

00:38:56.840 Like, literally centuries.

00:38:57.640 Wait, they're, like, every single, like, community, like, culture and existence has

00:39:02.740 had, like, not only, like, non-binary people, but, like, trans people.

00:39:07.120 Yeah.

00:39:07.140 And they exist in, like, different capacities in, like, I don't know, I, like, wrote this

00:39:10.420 paper about, like, the travesties in, like, Brazil.

00:39:12.540 Yeah.

00:39:12.640 And there's, like, the he dress.

00:39:13.440 Like, there's, there are, like, like, different, like, subsets of, like, transness, whether it's,

00:39:17.740 like, non-binary, like, trans-feminine, trans-masculine.

00:39:19.760 Yeah.

00:39:20.480 Or, like, even, like, people who can refer to themselves as, like, cross-justice.

00:39:22.880 Like, there's, like, a whole series, like, it exists everywhere in every culture.

00:39:26.920 It's so pervasive.

00:39:27.960 Yeah.

00:39:28.120 So, to stand up and be, like, this is, like, like, the, like, liberal agenda in 2023.

00:39:32.840 I'm, like, did you, like, did you crawl out of the bubble yesterday?

00:39:35.640 That's what I said.

00:39:36.320 Did you just, just, were you born literally yesterday?

00:39:39.300 Like, that's why I'm saying you guys are loud and wrong, as always.

00:39:42.820 Loud and wrong.

00:39:43.660 Yeah.

00:39:43.860 You guys are so uneducated about things that you know nothing about.

00:39:47.400 And that's why, even when I talked about that, I was, some people were, like, oh, girl,

00:39:52.880 you are actually kind of smart. 0.99

00:39:54.080 I'm all, say, because you guys want me to tell men to suck my wiener all day, which I 0.99

00:39:56.940 will, but that does not mean that I don't, I don't know a little something something about 0.99

00:40:02.240 some stuff.

00:40:03.100 But it's truly, it's so exhausting to me having to have that conversation because I'm, like,

00:40:08.260 you don't even know what you're talking about.

00:40:09.960 Like, you genuinely don't know what you're talking about, and you don't want to have that

00:40:12.120 conversation with me.

00:40:13.020 It's an interesting internet phenomenon that people think if you're funny, then you have 1.00

00:40:15.840 to be kind of stupid, you know? 0.98

00:40:17.580 I also think it's, like, it's, like, a consequence of, like, the parasocial relationship where 1.00

00:40:20.880 they're kind of laughing at you.

00:40:21.960 And I'm, like, you can laugh at and with me.

00:40:24.740 I'm funny.

00:40:25.600 Like, I wear funny things and I say funny things, but also I have a brain, girl.

00:40:29.140 Me.

00:40:29.300 You know.

00:40:29.980 Me.

00:40:30.760 Literally me.

00:40:31.500 And sometimes, every time I'm not solely making fun of men, and I start kind of talking 0.97

00:40:37.180 my shit a little bit, they're, like, oh, you are kind of smart. 0.99

00:40:40.340 Well, yeah. 1.00

00:40:41.380 Yeah.

00:40:41.780 Yeah.

00:40:42.100 Most funny people are.

00:40:43.320 I hate that.

00:40:43.780 I hate when they have to realize it.

00:40:45.400 I'm, like, oh, you are smart.

00:40:46.320 I'm, like, oh, like, you didn't know that before?

00:40:49.980 You couldn't, you couldn't. 0.94

00:40:50.720 Also, just, like, why am I dumb until proven smart? 1.00

00:40:53.820 This stupid bitch is actually kind of smart. 1.00

00:40:55.980 Right. 1.00

00:40:56.240 This funny, stupid bitch is actually kind of smart. 1.00

00:40:59.500 This dumb bitch has a brain. 1.00

00:41:01.260 Yeah. 1.00

00:41:01.780 Okay.

00:41:02.100 I do.

00:41:02.760 Okay, work, brain.

00:41:03.700 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:03.900 It's funny.

00:41:12.640 Okay.

00:41:13.080 Okay, I'll go on to this next video.

00:41:14.660 Okay, so, in this video, a person is sitting in their car eating a sandwich, looking into

00:41:19.900 the camera with the caption, I'm genuinely so confused.

00:41:22.900 How do pronouns not relate to pronouns?

00:41:26.360 Like, you would identify as a female, but use he, him pronouns.

00:41:30.420 I'm so confused.

00:41:31.660 Do they just like the sound of the word better?

00:41:33.720 Sometimes, yeah.

00:41:34.420 See, honestly, you, they were almost there.

00:41:38.680 Yeah.

00:41:39.000 Like, they're saying you'd identify as a female, but use he, okay, so, you're right. 0.99

00:41:44.460 Gender identity is true.

00:41:46.500 Not everyone identifies as the gender they were assigned at birth.

00:41:49.120 Of course.

00:41:49.640 So, there you go.

00:41:50.580 So, you're, like, you're right there.

00:41:52.580 You're, like, almost there.

00:41:53.700 Like, an inch away.

00:41:54.660 Yeah.

00:41:54.980 But also, it just, because this discourse happens, like, inside and outside the queer community.

00:41:59.800 Because I think people who, like, are, like, gender essentialists, like, not in the queer community

00:42:03.220 and see, like, someone who was assigned one thing and births and identifies as somebody

00:42:06.440 else is, like, you can't be that.

00:42:07.860 You're a man.

00:42:08.540 You're a woman.

00:42:09.200 And it's, like, okay, you don't know what's going on here.

00:42:11.000 Yeah.

00:42:11.340 And then within the queer community, people are, like, oh, if you're, like, a lesbian, 0.50

00:42:14.380 you can't go by they, them pronouns or, like, all this stuff.

00:42:16.120 And I'm, like, at the end of the day, these are all made-up words to describe made-up things.

00:42:19.880 True.

00:42:20.360 So, like, if I'm, if I want you to be, like, I'm it, it's, and my name is Sparklepuss,

00:42:24.140 you have to deal with that, okay?

00:42:25.720 Because at the end of the day, it is all.

00:42:27.180 Because that's what I said.

00:42:28.040 It's make-believe.

00:42:28.820 It is.

00:42:29.040 And, like, if I want you to call me something, that's what you should call me. 0.99

00:42:31.340 And if I don't want you to call me, you know, like, little baby bitch girl, then don't call 1.00

00:42:35.580 me that. 1.00

00:42:36.020 Yeah.

00:42:36.660 Maybe if you want.

00:42:37.680 But I just.

00:42:38.400 But only.

00:42:39.920 Only if I say so.

00:42:41.200 Yeah.

00:42:41.680 Like, that's the thing is people are so hung up on, like, words and language personifying

00:42:47.600 people how they perceive them.

00:42:49.220 Yeah.

00:42:49.540 And I think, I don't know, when you, like, when you're sheltered and you're only exposed

00:42:54.260 to, like, like, an echo chamber of, like, Fox News and your own thoughts, like, it makes

00:42:58.540 sense that the minute you see somebody.

00:42:59.860 That you turn out that way.

00:43:00.740 Yeah.

00:43:01.180 But also, like, like, don't be so afraid of something that you don't understand.

00:43:05.440 Truly.

00:43:06.720 And also, like, I think it takes just, like, a really basic sense of compassion to meet

00:43:11.120 somebody, have them tell you, like, I would like to be called this and referred to by

00:43:15.020 this and then do it.

00:43:16.200 Like, that seems like a, like, I don't know.

00:43:18.120 I feel like it takes more energy to defy that.

00:43:21.320 It's more work.

00:43:22.360 It's harder.

00:43:22.900 It's harder.

00:43:23.460 It's so hell bent on, like, reinforcing these norms that were, like, hammered into your head

00:43:27.380 over time.

00:43:27.920 But then you, like, you leave your bubble, you see, like, culture that, like, is not

00:43:31.720 the same as your own and you freak out. 1.00

00:43:33.200 You said, too, when you leave your bubble, it's, like, such a, it's such a silly and ignorant 0.97

00:43:38.240 thing to believe that everything that you've known in your tight circle is how the world 0.98

00:43:42.560 is.

00:43:42.900 Oh, absolutely. 0.98

00:43:43.300 Like, what's the difference between that and when, like, fucking pilgrims thought that the world 0.99

00:43:47.620 was flat. 0.99

00:43:48.180 You know what I'm saying?

00:43:48.800 Like, they didn't know any better.

00:43:49.700 They're like, oh, you'll just fall off the edge.

00:43:51.040 That's literally you, girl.

00:43:52.280 Like, you're living in a bubble that's, like, telling you one thing, but you have literally

00:43:55.940 no idea.

00:43:56.700 Christopher Columbus showed up to a world that he didn't discover and called it India.

00:43:59.860 And he was just like, nah, you guys are Indians.

00:44:03.500 And they still call them that.

00:44:04.820 Like, some people still call Native American people that to this day.

00:44:07.120 There's, like, legislation.

00:44:08.520 Like, U.S. legislation, like, that uses the word Indian.

00:44:13.420 I'm like, what does it have to do with India?

00:44:15.740 Nothing at all.

00:44:16.600 My point is, like, you leave your bubble and you just throw, like, your perspective of,

00:44:21.200 like, what's happening.

00:44:22.080 Like, you label it.

00:44:23.000 Like, you're almost always wrong.

00:44:24.660 Like, it really never works out.

00:44:27.460 No.

00:44:27.700 Just listen to people.

00:44:28.800 Let people tell.

00:44:29.600 Like, they've lived lives.

00:44:31.000 Truly.

00:44:32.000 A life different from yours.

00:44:33.040 Yeah.

00:44:33.640 A life is probably better than you.

00:44:34.900 Yeah.

00:44:35.420 Most likely.

00:44:36.260 Nine times out of ten it is.

00:44:37.100 More filling.

00:44:37.560 More enriching.

00:44:38.320 Truly.

00:44:39.000 More fun.

00:44:39.940 Right.

00:44:40.220 More loving.

00:44:40.840 More slay.

00:44:41.600 Yeah.

00:44:41.940 More slay. 1.00

00:44:43.120 More cunt. 1.00

00:44:43.760 Right. 1.00

00:44:44.060 Absolutely.

00:44:44.580 Yeah.

00:44:45.020 I feel like, even, like you said, it's, if I tell you, like, it's the same, even if you

00:44:50.420 were to simplify it down to something like names, I changed my name.

00:44:53.780 Like, if you were to legally change your name. 0.97

00:44:55.380 Like, if I changed my name to, like, dickhead. 0.99

00:44:58.640 Period. 0.98

00:44:59.020 That's my name now.

00:44:59.960 You have to call me that. 0.99

00:45:01.160 Okay, dickhead. 0.99

00:45:01.440 Maybe I'll win. 0.99

00:45:01.860 Okay.

00:45:02.340 Okay, work. 0.95

00:45:03.040 Dickhead. 0.96

00:45:03.620 That's my, that's my literal name now. 0.94

00:45:05.460 You have to call it to me.

00:45:06.240 I, I legally changed it. 0.99

00:45:08.100 So, like, who the fuck are you to tell me that's not it? 0.99

00:45:10.880 Yeah. 0.99

00:45:11.220 Why?

00:45:12.040 Well, because I don't think so.

00:45:13.160 Well, you're not me.

00:45:13.980 And then it's just, we're, again, we're going in this circle.

00:45:16.400 And like you said, it's all made up.

00:45:18.060 Like, none of it is real.

00:45:19.180 None of it's real.

00:45:20.000 Literally none of it's real.

00:45:21.620 Just, like, gender's not real.

00:45:23.180 It's just, it's so, it's so silly, I feel like, to, like, be, what do you just, you're

00:45:27.720 up all night worrying about that?

00:45:29.360 Like, twiddling your fingers, like, to get about, like, oh my God, they're

00:45:31.840 coming for our kids.

00:45:33.740 Like, okay, girl.

00:45:34.680 There's people, most, let me tell you something, most they, thems hate kids.

00:45:38.360 I famously do.

00:45:39.920 Like, they do.

00:45:40.700 My mother is, like, a, like, a public school teacher.

00:45:43.280 She hates them just as much as me.

00:45:44.740 I, like, okay, I shouldn't say that, but she's very good at her job.

00:45:47.660 She loves the kids.

00:45:48.580 I, like, I can't be around, like, children, for example.

00:45:50.840 Listen.

00:45:51.280 One kid, sure, like, I could, like, babysit.

00:45:53.400 Yeah.

00:45:53.620 You know, maybe if I liked the kid.

00:45:54.960 Yeah.

00:45:55.240 Like, I don't know.

00:45:57.200 Conditional, though.

00:45:57.820 Also, like, like, I don't know, whenever I, whenever I go to, like, I club a lot.

00:46:01.840 I'm a rave girl, you know?

00:46:03.100 Sometimes you go to, like, concerts that are, like, 18 plus.

00:46:05.520 I'm like, what's going on?

00:46:07.020 Like, 18?

00:46:07.940 Yeah.

00:46:08.440 They're little.

00:46:09.040 They're kids.

00:46:09.360 They are babies.

00:46:10.040 No shade.

00:46:10.560 Like, love you all.

00:46:11.360 Yeah.

00:46:12.420 Babies.

00:46:12.820 Like, I.

00:46:13.540 Petuses.

00:46:14.000 Like, I don't want to be around children.

00:46:15.280 Everyone's like, you're coming after the children.

00:46:16.300 I'm like, I'm actually running away from your children.

00:46:17.900 No, that's what I mean.

00:46:18.900 I'm like, most, most people, like, even with drag queens. 1.00

00:46:21.900 I have so many drag queen friends. 0.81

00:46:23.780 They hate kids. 1.00

00:46:25.220 They don't give a fuck about your kids. 1.00

00:46:26.520 Especially, like, also, like, because, like, the kids that these people are trying to protect from me are, like, already indoctrinated by those people. 0.99

00:46:33.900 And I'm like, your kid hates me.

00:46:35.080 Yeah.

00:46:35.300 I don't want to be near.

00:46:35.720 I'm worried.

00:46:36.320 I'm scared.

00:46:36.860 Your kid's going to say a slur.

00:46:38.160 I'm scared of your kid.

00:46:39.480 Yeah.

00:46:39.880 Yeah.

00:46:40.280 I'm scared of your kid.

00:46:41.340 That's why I was like, most, most people that they demonize and personify as, like, oh, they're, they're, they're coming after kids or whatever.

00:46:49.100 They hate kids.

00:46:49.680 They don't want to be anywhere near them.

00:46:51.220 Any show that they do, they don't want kids there.

00:46:53.440 It's very, it's very famously and widely known.

00:46:56.420 So it's a fallacy.

00:46:57.660 Like, like, especially with, like, drag, like, drag isn't, like, inherently sexual, but, like, the state of being queer, thanks to, like, the U.S. of A, like, is sort of, like, sexualized because of the way people see it.

00:47:07.620 So, like, at the end of the day, it's, like, if my liberation and, like, my, like, freedom of expression is something that you feel needs to be policed, then, like, at the very least, just get your kids away from me.

00:47:16.120 Truly.

00:47:16.340 Like, at the very least, just let me do my thing.

00:47:18.280 And, like, like, you know, we'll, we'll undo and, like, rework, like, why you think, like, being queer is inherently sexual, which is, like, a flawed mindset.

00:47:26.140 T, T.

00:47:26.660 I'm like, that says more about you.

00:47:28.840 Right.

00:47:29.180 Than it does about queer people. 0.80

00:47:30.560 Absolutely.

00:47:31.200 When, when you sexualize them immediately, it's the same thing with trans women or men. 0.98

00:47:35.080 When you sexualize them immediately, that's a you problem. 1.00

00:47:38.540 Absolutely. 0.95

00:47:39.180 That's a you problem, babe.

00:47:40.400 That's not a, that's not a them problem.

00:47:43.060 A they them problem. 0.96

00:47:44.460 That's not a they them problem.

00:47:45.520 Yeah, that's not their problem.

00:47:47.860 That's yours.

00:47:48.780 That's, I was like, that's a personal thing.

00:47:50.720 Unpack that privately.

00:47:51.860 Yeah.

00:47:52.160 With your therapist, hopefully.

00:47:53.520 Or your priest.

00:47:54.340 I don't know what you do.

00:47:55.780 I don't know.

00:47:56.480 I don't know how you unpack that.

00:47:57.680 I mean, take it wherever you go.

00:47:58.900 Just tell somebody.

00:47:59.440 Yeah, tell someone.

00:48:00.560 Let it fester under your bed.

00:48:02.020 Tell a trusted friend.

00:48:03.420 Journal about it, girl.

00:48:04.420 Journal about it.

00:48:05.520 Okay, this comment.

00:48:07.240 This one says, they're bored and realize their logic has no value, so they just destroy all the rules.

00:48:13.220 Ah, see, the use of they them inadvertently.

00:48:15.520 It was really funny.

00:48:16.660 They're bored.

00:48:17.380 Yeah, they are.

00:48:18.260 I am bored.

00:48:19.500 At least they gendered correctly. 1.00

00:48:21.140 Right.

00:48:21.480 At that point.

00:48:22.320 Okay, period.

00:48:23.240 But definitely accidentally, but here we are.

00:48:25.600 Definitely referring to like all of us, but I'm like, you never know.

00:48:28.400 Right.

00:48:29.000 You ever like, you refer to like three non-binary people and it's like referring to you, you, you,

00:48:32.720 these two, these two, these two are all three.

00:48:34.720 You never know.

00:48:36.120 Well, that's why like some of my friends are non-binary lesbians and I'm like, okay, cool.

00:48:41.580 Like, you see how, you see how that works?

00:48:43.100 I was like, I was wondering, like the point you're like, no, like slay.

00:48:45.680 I'm like, slay.

00:48:46.580 Like, that's why you tell me that and I go, okay.

00:48:49.220 Yeah.

00:48:49.600 And the end.

00:48:50.580 Again, made up words to describe like made up things.

00:48:53.440 Cool.

00:48:53.500 Like, like, yeah, you can be whatever you want to be.

00:48:56.440 Period.

00:48:56.840 Like, I support that.

00:48:57.600 They're like, I identify as a non-binary lesbian and I'm like, work it.

00:49:01.780 Yeah.

00:49:02.240 We love it.

00:49:02.980 Do what you want.

00:49:03.860 Because also, I think, yeah, I don't know, like back and forth about like what labels

00:49:06.900 you're allowed to use and what are not.

00:49:08.280 To me, like, I don't know, I hate when it like festers in like an echo chamber of like

00:49:11.020 the queer community too, because then it's just like, this is just infighting.

00:49:14.140 Like, we've got bigger problems.

00:49:15.460 Yeah.

00:49:15.960 Yeah.

00:49:16.320 Well, you're like, we're splitting hairs at this point.

00:49:18.620 Right.

00:49:18.840 And also like, just, I don't know, at the end of the day, like let people identify how they

00:49:21.880 want.

00:49:22.140 Yeah.

00:49:23.500 Labels can be really useful because it's how people built community.

00:49:26.800 Yeah.

00:49:26.960 Like, we wouldn't have community without labels because it's how we find each other.

00:49:30.240 Yeah.

00:49:30.560 But then like, when you get down to like the, like, you can't be these three things and

00:49:34.840 these two things.

00:49:35.480 I'm like, have you tried being normal?

00:49:37.400 Have you tried just like, just like letting people live?

00:49:40.120 Yeah.

00:49:40.700 And if somebody, if the way someone identifies, like really gets in the way, like aforementioned,

00:49:44.600 just look the other way.

00:49:45.500 Yeah, there you go.

00:49:45.840 Get out of our way.

00:49:46.620 There you go.

00:49:46.740 Like, we don't need you here. 0.99

00:49:47.760 I personally don't give a fuck because it doesn't hurt me as long as everyone's happy and no one's 0.98

00:49:52.680 bigoted works for me. 0.98

00:49:54.220 Absolutely.

00:49:54.720 That's, that's all that really, that's really required to be my friend.

00:49:57.420 Also, the debate about like non-binary lesbians, like at the end of the day, like if the gender

00:50:01.240 binary is made up, then you could be anything in a lesbian. 1.00

00:50:03.720 Like, I don't know.

00:50:04.560 I like.

00:50:05.220 Tanya.

00:50:05.720 I won't get into like the minutiae of it all.

00:50:07.500 But at the end of the day, like.

00:50:08.440 Yeah.

00:50:08.680 Like, people are like, you have to be a woman to be a lesbian.

00:50:11.360 I'm like, well, well, yes.

00:50:12.940 But also like, like, I don't know, womanhood and manhood are already very fragile concepts

00:50:16.860 to begin with.

00:50:17.640 True.

00:50:17.840 So like.

00:50:18.200 Built on a very shaky foundation.

00:50:19.660 Right.

00:50:19.980 So like, maybe let's not like, like stick to like reinforcing those norms.

00:50:23.480 Yeah.

00:50:23.780 That's kind of, I feel like, I feel like even in moments like that, and I can obviously

00:50:27.400 only speak to like my own, uh, like cis heteronormativity, but it's like, I think in moments

00:50:32.820 like that, that's where you really start to unpack your own, um, things that you haven't

00:50:37.160 really let go of yet.

00:50:38.260 Like internalized biases.

00:50:39.580 We all have them and we're all actively unpacking them as we get older and evolve and want to

00:50:44.000 be more inclusive and better.

00:50:45.740 So I feel like even then you, when you feel those start to flare up, I feel like sometimes

00:50:49.940 it's just like, sometimes I think it's a defense mechanism.

00:50:52.600 It's a pride thing.

00:50:53.620 Like you just feel really proud.

00:50:55.620 Um, and those are all things that are not inherently bad, but it's more so when it starts to harm

00:51:00.100 others where it's like, that's where you're like, okay, maybe I shouldn't.

00:51:03.080 Unpack why I feel the need to like, you know, really get up in arms about it.

00:51:07.140 But for me, I'm just like, as long as you're cool and I'm cool, we're cool.

00:51:12.660 Like, I think if you're great, I'm whatever, whoever you like and however you identify.

00:51:16.760 I love love.

00:51:17.580 I love to love.

00:51:18.640 I love to be happy. 0.81

00:51:19.580 I love to be silly. 0.97

00:51:20.660 I love to be silly. 1.00

00:51:21.500 As long as you're not a cis straight man being awful, then you're not my op. 1.00

00:51:25.620 There you go. 0.97

00:51:27.800 All of them are my ops.

00:51:29.500 So those are the only people I'm hunting.

00:51:31.120 That's for sure.

00:51:32.300 Okay.

00:51:33.180 This last comment says they just want to be cool and different.

00:51:37.720 Well, I think.

00:51:38.840 I am cool and different.

00:51:39.820 I was.

00:51:40.620 Okay.

00:51:41.260 They are.

00:51:43.420 The they in question.

00:51:45.400 You know what I will say? 0.98

00:51:46.500 All of my friends who are part of the LGBTQIA plus community are the coolest bitches I've ever met in my entire life. 1.00

00:51:54.840 Yeah, I wish. 0.53

00:51:56.400 I wish to God I could have been an ounce of as cool as someone like Griffin or even someone like ER5 Master who's non-binary or Hina who's non-binary. 0.98

00:52:05.540 Those bitches are so cool. 1.00

00:52:08.020 I'm jealous. 0.99

00:52:09.440 They are cool and they are different.

00:52:11.280 And I wish I had that.

00:52:12.360 Don't sell yourself short.

00:52:13.280 You're very cool.

00:52:14.160 We are cool.

00:52:14.880 We.

00:52:15.760 And then someone else outside of us.

00:52:17.080 It's we, us.

00:52:17.740 Yeah.

00:52:18.700 It's a collective.

00:52:19.880 We're one big like amorphous brain.

00:52:22.420 Exactly.

00:52:23.480 But I'm like, they are cool.

00:52:25.600 Inherently, they always are.

00:52:26.920 They're much cooler than any cishet person I personally know, including myself.

00:52:31.400 So that's why I'm like, that's T, honestly, because it's true.

00:52:34.720 Well, it's also just like people, you just want to be different.

00:52:37.380 I'm like, no, no, no.

00:52:38.100 I am different.

00:52:39.060 Literally. 0.91

00:52:39.560 You're mad.

00:52:40.540 And you're mad.

00:52:41.420 Right.

00:52:41.800 And you're upset about it.

00:52:42.560 Like, sorry.

00:52:42.960 Sorry, you can't be me.

00:52:44.020 Well, and also you are, you have felt different your whole life.

00:52:47.420 Why do you think the gender binary doesn't work?

00:52:49.820 Like, if I feel different, then like, I have the choice to either like be different or to

00:52:55.560 desperately trying to change myself in order to not be perceived as different.

00:52:59.300 Period.

00:52:59.580 Which like any queer person who's like been through that, which is like most queer people. 0.96

00:53:03.140 And like still to this day, like there are moments where like I feel like I need to do

00:53:05.640 that.

00:53:06.060 Yeah.

00:53:06.260 It's a terrible feeling.

00:53:07.380 You know?

00:53:08.520 It's not even like, I don't know.

00:53:10.460 I shouldn't describe it as like an ouchie.

00:53:12.300 You know?

00:53:12.500 It's like, it's like an invalidating feeling that's so, so contrary to like your own existence

00:53:17.620 that it's like entirely dissociative.

00:53:19.360 It's like suffocating.

00:53:20.940 Yeah.

00:53:21.300 Well, it's like, it's this argument that like, when we talk about like trans people

00:53:24.940 and like expression, like the, oh, like, like sometimes like I feel like people like

00:53:29.520 have to be like stealth or they have to be like not like, like visibly queer in order 1.00

00:53:33.900 to like conserve their space or to conserve their space to be.

00:53:36.400 And people don't understand like just how harming that is.

00:53:39.800 Yeah.

00:53:40.060 That it's not like in like a, oh, like this stinks.

00:53:41.880 I couldn't wear the outfit I wanted to wear.

00:53:43.260 It is like a, you look in the mirror and you see something that isn't you.

00:53:47.000 Yeah.

00:53:48.460 And it's horrible.

00:53:49.900 Yeah.

00:53:50.100 It's just like, and I think to myself, like a lot of times, even so, like even, and probably

00:53:56.220 even you, like, I feel like in my experience talking to all my friends who are part of

00:54:00.420 the community and like their journeys of coming out, whatever that looked like.

00:54:03.660 Like, um, it was like for a long time they had to go through that.

00:54:08.480 Yeah.

00:54:08.700 You had to conform for so long until you get to a point where you're like, it's literally

00:54:12.700 me.

00:54:13.620 I have to choose me at some point.

00:54:14.900 I have to choose me.

00:54:15.560 Otherwise, I don't know what I'm going to do.

00:54:16.940 It becomes, I mean, like, like statistically it's life or death for a lot of people.

00:54:19.960 Yes, absolutely.

00:54:21.000 Um, and I think the people that are able to navigate it, like, like we can tell you that

00:54:26.340 like, it is still like, it's like a gut-wrenching experience to be someone that you're not,

00:54:29.700 you know, and it's just, that's the kind of shit where I'm like, I cannot believe that 0.96

00:54:34.640 people want to turn that into something awful. 0.97

00:54:39.660 Like that kind of experience that I could never imagine feeling every single day.

00:54:45.440 You know what I mean?

00:54:46.180 And then when I do hear about it and it kills me to hear about it, I think like evil people

00:54:51.660 in the world being like, oh, I hate that. 0.61

00:54:54.100 Like you're so evil, bro. 0.97

00:54:55.900 Like bitter, like truly and unhappy. 0.52

00:54:58.240 Like there's just no, thinking about that and thinking about people having to like stifle

00:55:01.720 who they really are or how they want to express themselves because of fear of retaliation like

00:55:07.000 that, that's horrible, dude. 1.00

00:55:08.860 It sucks. 0.96

00:55:09.620 And it's a reality for so many people too because especially for like, I don't know, like people 0.99

00:55:13.580 who are trans in like a very visible way or if you're like are trans and you're like

00:55:17.160 still along like, you know, the way in your transition to a point where like, like if

00:55:20.620 you're, whether or not you pass is like a whole like conversation to have like that has

00:55:24.400 nuance and like kind of varies from like where you are and who you're around.

00:55:27.420 But like, it is like, I don't know, it's life or death for people in like a lot of

00:55:31.580 ways, you know?

00:55:32.620 At the end of the day, it's just like, like there's just no justification to like not

00:55:36.960 being okay with like somebody's like very existence the way they want to express themselves.

00:55:41.240 Literally.

00:55:41.880 And it makes me irate.

00:55:44.280 It makes me angry, which is why I keep, I've fought so many transphobes. 1.00

00:55:48.940 Oh girl, I have fucked them up. 0.99

00:55:51.460 They're my favorite people to fight. 0.99

00:55:52.820 Like, I love, I love to tussle with a turf.

00:55:55.820 Like, let's go girl. 0.97

00:55:57.180 Oh, the turfs. 1.00

00:55:58.420 Oh, I beef with the turfs all the time. 1.00

00:56:00.880 I, I had one, there was one girl and I don't remember her name and I never fucking will 1.00

00:56:04.900 cause fuck her. 1.00

00:56:05.520 But like, and that's like, and I don't say that lightly cause it was someone who was 1.00

00:56:08.820 harassing Dylan for a very long time.

00:56:10.980 But she, Oh, I know what you're talking about.

00:56:12.780 The girl who was dressing up.

00:56:13.520 But yeah, but part of the, part of the reason why I was so fucking angry when I saw that

00:56:18.640 girl was literally because she was tagging me and being like, well, people were tagging

00:56:24.380 me in her video, but then she was saying like, Oh, drew would support me cause she supports

00:56:28.740 women. 1.00

00:56:29.320 First of all, shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:56:31.380 No. 1.00

00:56:31.660 Second, second of all, if you don't support all women, you don't support me. 0.99

00:56:35.240 And I sure as fuck don't support you. 0.99

00:56:36.860 And so I was like, that's not intersectional feminism. 1.00

00:56:39.120 Cause she got, she kept saying, Oh, she's a feminist. 1.00

00:56:41.140 She's a, I'm an intersectional feminist bitch that, that includes trans women. 1.00

00:56:46.100 Like you fucking turf. 1.00

00:56:47.620 And I remember I literally tweeted her and I said, you're a fucking turf and don't ever 1.00

00:56:51.120 talk about me again. 1.00

00:56:51.900 Like we're friends cause we're not.

00:56:53.100 And I ate her up.

00:56:54.380 It is crazy too.

00:56:55.320 When like, like turfs will like incite like who they perceive to be their feminist icons. 1.00

00:56:59.860 Girl.

00:57:00.100 It's just like, I said, pick another one.

00:57:02.500 Yeah, girl, find someone else. 1.00

00:57:03.540 Pick another one.

00:57:04.100 It'll be Harry Potter for Halloween.

00:57:06.480 There's actually a really famous one you can pick.

00:57:08.300 No, she'll love you.

00:57:09.900 Like it's just, it's crazy. 1.00

00:57:11.820 That's why I was like, pick another one bitch. 1.00

00:57:12.900 Cause you're, you sure as hell are not picking me. 1.00

00:57:15.620 It's also just like, it's like, like if you think you're a feminist and like being transphobic

00:57:20.680 at all just goes, I mean, not only does it hurt trans women, it hurts cis women too.

00:57:24.660 All the time.

00:57:25.360 Hello.

00:57:25.820 Like you turn around and there is this like desire to, I don't know.

00:57:31.020 So my friend said this to me when I was in college, like my junior year specifically.

00:57:35.180 And then my senior year, I did a lot of activism for trans eligibility in sports.

00:57:38.060 Cause I was, I was diving at Princeton. 0.99

00:57:39.860 Leah Thomas was swimming at UPenn and it was like the talk of the fucking town. 0.99

00:57:43.320 Yeah. 0.97

00:57:43.600 Um, and like the, the, the, the argument always devolves into like, like this, there's like

00:57:49.160 this biological unfairness, you know, like, like trans women are like bigger and strong. 0.60

00:57:52.800 I'm like, okay, hold on.

00:57:53.900 It always devolves into like, Terps will get online or just like get on their soapbox,

00:57:59.460 especially in like the world of sports and like in the name of feminism, be like women 1.00

00:58:03.600 are weaker.

00:58:04.540 And I'm like, this is crazy.

00:58:06.020 Like, what are you saying?

00:58:07.360 Yeah.

00:58:07.380 That's like so adverse to the movement.

00:58:10.560 It's not even funny.

00:58:11.660 And it's like, you know, I could go on and on about like biological diversity and like

00:58:15.040 why, like.

00:58:15.760 Don't even get me started.

00:58:16.360 Yeah.

00:58:16.620 Like I could write a dissertation on like the, you know, biological centralism and like why

00:58:20.860 we don't need to like fixate on like whatever.

00:58:23.460 My, the biggest thing is just like, like if you don't see, like, I don't know, if you

00:58:28.000 consider yourself a feminist and you don't see trans women as a woman, like you can't 0.99

00:58:31.060 be a feminist. 1.00

00:58:31.800 You're not.

00:58:32.120 Yeah.

00:58:32.300 You aren't a feminist. 1.00

00:58:33.280 If you are at the very best, you're a white feminist, which helps no one but white women. 1.00

00:58:38.360 No, you put up a wall around womanhood that, A, not all, it doesn't only exclude like 0.50

00:58:42.840 trans women. 1.00

00:58:43.400 It excludes like women of color. 1.00

00:58:44.840 It excludes like disabled women. 1.00

00:58:46.360 It's fat women. 1.00

00:58:47.260 It's like everybody. 0.99

00:58:48.820 Everyone except thin, cis, straight, white women. 0.82

00:58:51.700 Yeah. 0.91

00:58:51.820 So if you're a white feminist, then you're not a real feminist, in my opinion. 1.00

00:58:56.320 That's why I'm a proud and devout intersectional feminist. 1.00

00:59:00.240 And I said, and I even said, even at that point, I'm like, how could you possibly reference

00:59:04.500 me when Dylan's been on my show?

00:59:06.540 First of all, I've had many trans women on my show of many different ethnicities and 0.71

00:59:10.880 walks of life.

00:59:11.180 It's always crazy too, because it just goes to show that they're not really like paying

00:59:14.000 attention.

00:59:14.360 That's what I said.

00:59:15.020 You don't know anything about me, girl.

00:59:16.300 Like you, you called upon me. 0.99

00:59:18.240 I hate you publicly. 1.00

00:59:20.500 Wrong door, bitch. 1.00

00:59:21.500 Knock on another one. 1.00

00:59:22.440 Like get, move on.

00:59:23.560 You got the right idea.

00:59:24.400 Yeah. 1.00

00:59:24.860 The wrong bitch. 1.00

00:59:26.980 Exactly. 1.00

00:59:27.760 And it drives me nuts.

00:59:29.300 You know, it's so funny too.

00:59:30.260 One time I went to dinner with my boyfriend and a couple of people that we were like, we,

00:59:35.440 we knew them.

00:59:36.520 We knew them pretty well, but they just like wanted to double date.

00:59:38.820 And we were like, okay, cool.

00:59:39.960 And then when we went, um, one of the guy, he had said something, I forget what it was.

00:59:45.720 I don't even remember how it came up, but he had brought up, um, trans women in, in the

00:59:51.260 Olympics.

00:59:51.860 Right.

00:59:52.220 Cause I think at the time it was like a hot button topic.

00:59:55.460 Obviously they want to talk about that because they have nothing better to do.

00:59:59.320 And, um, he had brought it up.

01:00:01.080 And I remember my boyfriend was like, careful because I was like, cause as soon as he brought

01:00:05.080 it up, I was like, and I'm done eating.

01:00:07.060 Right.

01:00:07.520 Okay.

01:00:07.880 So me, I'm not hungry.

01:00:08.840 Yeah.

01:00:08.960 I was like, Oh, suddenly I'm not hungry, but let's talk.

01:00:10.780 Yeah.

01:00:10.900 Sure.

01:00:11.120 You want to talk about it?

01:00:11.880 Let's talk about it.

01:00:12.760 And then he was like, Oh no, no.

01:00:14.780 Like he just kind of backpedaled a little bit because I, again, I don't know if he thought 1.00

01:00:19.120 I was a dumb bitch. 1.00

01:00:19.840 Who knows? 1.00

01:00:20.800 Um, but, and that's someone I never hung out with again.

01:00:23.660 Can you believe that?

01:00:24.600 Look at that.

01:00:25.200 Never knew it again.

01:00:26.020 So it's always so funny when people like backpedal cause they know they don't know what they're

01:00:28.840 talking about.

01:00:29.480 You know?

01:00:29.920 I'm like, Oh, you just listened to a couple, like, you know, you listened to Ben Shapiro

01:00:34.400 once and you're like, I know everything.

01:00:36.820 I'm not wrong.

01:00:38.500 Sorry.

01:00:40.420 So I feel like the topic itself is so, is obviously so incredibly nuanced, but I feel like what

01:00:47.560 is important to remember is like, if you just like leave people alone, you'll probably

01:00:53.500 be a lot happier.

01:00:54.520 Yeah, absolutely.

01:00:55.940 Statistically.

01:00:56.340 With sports too, it was like, first of all, most of y'all did not care about women's

01:00:59.760 sports until 30 seconds ago. 0.99

01:01:01.340 You guys were talking shit on women's sports until like 30 seconds ago. 1.00

01:01:04.100 Literally. 0.99

01:01:05.420 Um, and like on top of that, it just, I don't know.

01:01:08.240 That whole situation was just like, you've based your entire opinion on a one person case

01:01:12.240 study.

01:01:12.900 Like you, you got information you got, right.

01:01:15.020 You watched a Ben Shapiro podcast and you read the onion thinking it was real.

01:01:18.900 And now here we are.

01:01:19.660 Yeah, literally.

01:01:20.800 God.

01:01:21.100 And you know what I, I even tell, um, men like men who want to talk about trans women

01:01:26.940 in sports, whenever they bring it up, I'm like, well, you couldn't even make varsity

01:01:31.140 in high school.

01:01:31.560 So I feel like you're not the person to ask about whether or not athletes are good enough

01:01:36.600 to get there.

01:01:37.200 You couldn't get there.

01:01:38.280 Even if you tried your hardest, if you went for a whole year, you wouldn't be able to

01:01:42.660 qualify.

01:01:43.400 So I feel like you're not the person to ask like someone who's unathletic.

01:01:47.100 I'm not going to ask someone who's five, six, and you're talking about Olympian sprinters.

01:01:52.500 Yeah.

01:01:52.620 I'm not asking you like, Hey, I don't put her in the ring.

01:01:55.600 Yeah. 0.99

01:01:55.800 I'm like, Hey, I don't give a fuck what you have to say about professional female athletes. 1.00

01:02:00.080 Like you're not even mentioned in the conversation. 0.99

01:02:02.220 No, sorry.

01:02:03.240 I don't want to hear it from like the, the men who could never make it even if they tried

01:02:07.680 their hardest.

01:02:08.140 No, like you're sitting there typing from your mom's basement.

01:02:09.960 Like, yeah, I'm sure you have opinions.

01:02:11.800 Yeah.

01:02:12.120 I'm sure.

01:02:12.720 I'm sure.

01:02:13.700 I'm sure you're like, well, they don't deserve to be there.

01:02:16.380 Neither do you girl.

01:02:18.100 So there you go. 1.00

01:02:19.220 I guess you're both losers. 0.97

01:02:20.060 So to wrap up this episode, uh, what would you say you want to say? 0.97

01:02:33.240 I want to tell to anyone who's maybe wanting to, whether it's try different kinds of fashion

01:02:40.080 looks or maybe just someone who's maybe navigating their own, um, gender expression or identity,

01:02:46.100 like whether it's publicly or privately, what would you say is your best piece of advice?

01:02:50.740 I always tell people like, believe in yourself, be confident.

01:02:52.800 And that feels like, well, duh, you know, um, I think confidence is something that's difficult

01:02:58.580 to come by, but when you do come by it, it, um, it's like life changing.

01:03:02.020 I think confidence isn't always about like looking in the mirror and loving everything

01:03:06.280 about yourself.

01:03:06.980 It's more about understanding like you, well, you should love everything about yourself,

01:03:12.060 even if it's not like exactly what you want, because like you are you and like you deserve

01:03:17.520 to feel confident.

01:03:18.520 You deserve to feel good about yourself. 0.99

01:03:19.880 Also, like a big part of being confident is not having a fuck what other people think. 0.99

01:03:24.080 Period. 0.97

01:03:24.280 Like at the end of the day, like people are going to judge you no matter what.

01:03:28.360 So don't like look to please people, look to feel good, like, like, like whether it's

01:03:33.960 like through fashion, whether it's about like your identity, the way you express yourself,

01:03:37.920 the things you do, the people you surround yourself with, like the job you do, whatever.

01:03:41.920 Like it's about you first and foremost.

01:03:45.100 So express yourself in the way that makes you feel best.

01:03:47.800 And when people have something to say about it, just know that like the people who are

01:03:52.200 coming for you are just insecure.

01:03:53.660 Like people only talk about you when they don't have anything to say about themselves.

01:03:57.840 That's tea.

01:03:58.780 And like you said, it's like people don't appreciate them and their time.

01:04:02.300 So if they're talking, if they don't like you now.

01:04:03.860 Be before your time.

01:04:05.900 Because in 10 years you can be like, remember her?

01:04:08.120 She was it.

01:04:08.940 And I'm like, yes, she was.

01:04:10.660 Yes, she was.

01:04:11.220 And you can say, like I can say, I knew Griffin was it.

01:04:16.380 That was, they were it.

01:04:19.680 You better be careful.

01:04:21.700 I'm going to go over there and kiss you.

01:04:25.000 Thank you so much, Griffin, for coming on this episode.

01:04:27.280 I adore you.

01:04:27.880 It's an honor to be in your presence always.

01:04:30.500 Same, same, same, same.

01:04:31.460 I'm happy we finally did it.

01:04:32.640 Same, look at us.

01:04:33.600 I've been like releasing teasers all year.

01:04:35.940 Seriously.

01:04:36.700 Thank you so much for joining me on this episode.

01:04:38.640 I adore you.

01:04:39.800 Where can everybody find you?

01:04:41.940 I'm on Instagram and on TikTok and on Twitter.

01:04:44.740 It's just the government names are to finish.

01:04:46.220 Griffin Maxwell Brooks.

01:04:48.180 And I also, yeah, I do lots of things.

01:04:50.860 But if you crawl into a warehouse in New York, you might find me spinning.

01:04:53.460 Yes, I was going to say, where are you spinning next?

01:04:56.360 If you want to tell.

01:04:57.440 Ooh, actually in L.A.

01:05:00.180 Period.

01:05:00.900 I'm playing subculture New Year's Eve Eve.

01:05:03.260 So like on December 30th.

01:05:04.720 Where?

01:05:06.180 Warehouse, I'm sure.

01:05:07.000 Okay, period.

01:05:07.760 I don't know L.A.

01:05:08.340 But New Year's Eve Eve.

01:05:09.360 Yeah, but I'm around in New York.

01:05:10.720 Love.

01:05:11.520 Usually I know like a week before.

01:05:13.440 So just like, you know, stay tuned.

01:05:14.860 Give it a follow.

01:05:15.820 Go listen to my Halloween mix on SoundCloud.

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01:05:18.560 Oh, how so incredibly amazing.

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01:05:22.580 So make sure you check them out on literally everything.

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FASHION IS AN ART Ft. Griffin Maxwell Brooks

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