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00:00:59.960 I had a patient who had an IV in the jugular. And they pulled it out. And if anyone knows

00:01:05.900 anything about the jugular, that's a lot of blood that comes out. And I remember it just

00:01:10.080 spraying everywhere. But I don't get phased at all. Like, it was hitting me. It was hitting the

00:01:14.400 ceiling. My cat pukes. My grandmother's cat pukes. I'm like, I can't do this. You're getting sprayed

00:01:20.620 with blood. And you're like, it's fine. Actually, no worries.

00:01:31.020 Hey, everyone. And welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show. Starring

00:01:34.940 me, your fav. Everybody knows me. Who cares about me? On to the guests. Today, we have the wonderful,

00:01:39.980 the amazing, the iconic, the legendary, Hunter Prosper. Woo! Welcome to the show. Drew, I care

00:01:47.620 about you. I care about you deeply. Oh, God. Thanks, man. I appreciate that so much. Thank

00:01:52.500 you for coming on the show. Thank you for having me. I'm happy to have you. This is such an honor.

00:01:55.760 We've ran into each other probably 15 times. I know. We go so far back. We do. And we're both

00:01:59.860 15 years old. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Figure that out. We're so young. I know. We run into each

00:02:05.620 other everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. I mean, for the past, like, three years. We really have

00:02:10.420 for the past three years. We're just like, hey. It'll be random. It's a different state

00:02:14.280 every time, too. It is always a different. You know what? That's so funny, because when

00:02:17.480 I was in Arizona, there was another girl. Who was I talking to? Oh, I think it was someone

00:02:20.800 that worked at TikTok. But I was telling her, every time I see you, we're in another state.

00:02:24.460 Because I saw her in California. I saw her in New York. And then I saw her in Arizona.

00:02:27.700 And then I saw her, I think, in Tennessee once. She was like, oh, that is true. That's you

00:02:32.380 and me. And every time you're wearing a great outfit, and I'm just wearing a

00:02:35.440 dumb t-shirt. And you look great. And your hair carries. That's a good thing.

00:02:38.980 Thank you. Well, so I walked here. So if it's, like, frizzy or anything, I'm sorry.

00:02:42.700 It's all right. It looks wonderful. It's beautiful, luscious, long. Thank you.

00:02:45.440 You got a great hairline, bro. Thank you. You do. Yeah. It's all genetic. I got to give

00:02:49.740 all the credit to my mom. Period. You know, I actually know that when men bald, it's because

00:02:54.800 of their mom's side of the family. Genetically speaking. So bad news for a lot of men who

00:02:59.600 hate me. Uh-oh. Get mad at your mom for that. That's her fault. I also noticed you have

00:03:04.100 a widow's peak. Just like you. Look at us. Twins. Widow's peak twins. It's hard. You

00:03:11.560 know what's funny about, I never really noticed that I had one until I started doing this for

00:03:16.480 a living. And then everyone was, like, telling me I have a heart hairline. And I was like,

00:03:20.180 that sounds mean. Yeah. So I, like, looked it up and I was like, oh, widow's peak. Okay.

00:03:23.520 Yeah. Sorry. My bad. It sounds like they're saying your hairline's receding. It's not.

00:03:27.800 It just starts here and also starts here. Yeah. Because hearts go like this. Yeah. Exactly.

00:03:31.520 I'm like, careful. I can be mean too. Careful. Well, onto you, Hunter. Everybody knows you

00:03:37.660 on your content, like for your platform, where you really get to know people. So I would love

00:03:43.460 for you, I know your story, but I would love for you to tell people how you got into that

00:03:46.160 in the first place. Yeah. Of course. Um, well, it started with working as a nurse. I was working

00:03:52.020 on a floor and when you work on the floor as a nurse, you sort of see patients and then you

00:03:56.380 see them off. Yeah. That's not all the situations, but that's most situations. Yeah. Um, then I

00:04:00.700 transitioned to the ICU and it was the exact opposite. Um, I always prided myself in talking

00:04:05.560 to patients. Um, then when I went to the ICU, I didn't want to talk to anyone because when

00:04:09.280 I built a connection, the scenario was they most likely were going to die. Um, I do CPR the

00:04:15.020 next hour I'd paralyze and sedate them. Um, I was just getting worn out and I didn't want

00:04:19.460 to hear anyone talk. Yeah. It was sad because that's who I identified as. I identified as

00:04:24.400 someone who loves to listen. Yeah. And so I lost that. Um, and then I had a patient pass away who

00:04:30.020 was around my age and before she passed away, uh, I had built a connection with her. Like I said,

00:04:35.540 I wasn't going to, but I, um, I asked her a question. It's a question that I asked a lot

00:04:40.520 of strangers. All the questions that you see me ask strangers are the same ones that I asked my

00:04:43.860 patients. Oh, that's crazy. That's cool. Yeah. Um, and so I asked her this question and she knew

00:04:49.060 she was going to die and yet she still started crying tears of joy because of how much she loved

00:04:55.060 that. I asked her that question. Um, so I was really sad that she passed away. Yeah. And so

00:05:01.080 I made like a little video diary out of it where I'd sit in front of the camera and I'd talk about

00:05:04.960 my feelings. Um, and I talk about this person's life with respect to her privacy and I didn't say

00:05:09.680 her name or anything, but I talk about this person's life. So then it helped me cope with her

00:05:13.800 loss because then it felt like she didn't pass in vain. Yeah. Was that something you were just

00:05:17.720 doing for yourself or was it? So at first it was just for myself. Yeah. Just to kind of like heal

00:05:21.660 a little bit. Yeah. Because, uh, as a guy, like I was like, don't go to therapy. You know what I

00:05:27.080 mean? What's the point of that? Yeah. Yeah. That was the only right answer. No, that's why I asked.

00:05:30.580 That's like so emotionally intelligent in advance to be like, I need to talk through this. Yeah.

00:05:35.220 That's, that's why I was curious. Yeah. I needed an outlet for sure because it was bleeding into my

00:05:39.160 daily life. I come home and I didn't want to talk to patients, but then I come home and didn't want to

00:05:42.700 talk to my family. Yeah. I want to talk to my friends. I don't want to talk to anyone. Yeah. Um, and when I didn't want

00:05:47.680 to talk to my mom, I knew it was bad because my mom is like my number one person and she would talk

00:05:52.080 to me and I would just look at the phone. I'd see it light up and I'd put it down. Yeah. And I was

00:05:55.900 like, okay, something's wrong here. Um, and so then eventually, uh, I posted one of the video diaries,

00:06:01.420 um, and it was met with really beautiful responses. Uh, the comments and DMs were just amazing.

00:06:07.060 Yeah. Um, it was helping me cope. It was helping the viewers cope and it made me feel like the

00:06:11.360 patient's loss wasn't in vain. Yeah. So I just kept making them. And then one day, uh, Madison,

00:06:17.060 my girlfriend came up with the idea. She said, I think that you can make people on the street

00:06:21.520 feel just as comfortable as you make your patients feel. Um, I was like, I doubt that she's like, I

00:06:26.460 think you should try. And the next day I tried and that was three years ago. Now we're stories

00:06:31.760 from a stranger. That's like, Oh, that's so, I have so many questions. Well, first off, I'm

00:06:37.280 so curious. Did you always want to go into medicine and like help people? Is that just like something

00:06:41.040 you've just naturally gravitated towards? So I always wanted to help people. I didn't know how

00:06:44.700 that was going to manifest itself. Yeah. Um, my mom, like I listened to everything she

00:06:50.420 says. If she says jump, I ask how high, you know? Yeah. Me with my mom. Yeah, no, exactly.

00:06:54.820 Rightfully so. Your mom's great. So rightfully so. Um, but I was in school initially for English

00:07:01.040 and my mom was nervous, uh, single mom, only child. So she protects me in every situation,

00:07:07.640 all moms do, but especially her, like I'm her only. So she was like, baby, why don't you think

00:07:12.780 about something more stable and then do English on the side? And I was like, okay, mom, whatever

00:07:17.360 you say. So she's like, why don't you shadow a medical field? And so I chose nurse and the

00:07:23.100 first nurse that I shadowed, I realized that this woman was healing someone with her words

00:07:28.080 and medicine. Yeah. And I was like, Oh, like I love words. That's why I love English. Um,

00:07:32.680 medicine's cool. Let me combine the two. And then that's how I ended up nursing. And so

00:07:36.900 my mom was right. Yeah. I, as she always is, I'm sure. So it was mine. Like, I know

00:07:42.020 you said you love human connection and you found a way to like work that into medicine

00:07:46.320 in, when you started working in medicine, did you notice that companionship played a

00:07:50.600 huge role in people's like healing journeys? Cause you know, they talk about that, especially

00:07:54.340 in like nursing homes, um, you know, end of life care, like a lot of times human connection

00:07:59.980 helps the most, like more than it, more than medicine will really. Did you see that a lot

00:08:04.480 early on? Yeah. Actually, um, in the early days of medicine, well, I'm not going to say

00:08:09.800 early days, but let's say like eighties, nineties and two thousands. Um, if there was a code blue,

00:08:15.360 like a situation where the patient was like, we needed to do life saving measures, we would

00:08:19.580 always make the family get out of the room. We'd push them out. We'd say, go, go, go.

00:08:22.520 You have to leave. We have to do this. Now we, a lot of situations allow the family to stay

00:08:26.940 in because having that person there leads to better outcomes. Like it's been statistically

00:08:31.440 studied that if the patient family member or loved one is in the room, um, it helps the

00:08:37.580 outcome of the patient. Um, so certainly companionship and just having a human connection is what

00:08:42.320 keeps people here. Yeah. Cause I, I feel like I've seen so many stories about that too, where

00:08:46.640 like people lived a lot longer than they thought they were going to because they were spending

00:08:51.320 a lot of time with like one person, multiple people, like they had someone, a repeat visitor,

00:08:56.060 things like that. I feel like, did you see a lot of like things that maybe changed your

00:09:01.820 perspective on that as well when it comes to their families and how they spend time with

00:09:05.940 each other, whether they're at the end of their life or they're going through something

00:09:09.060 really difficult like that. Did you see it notice a huge difference between people who

00:09:13.060 had family there and versus people who didn't?

00:09:16.280 Yeah. So certainly, and the energy is palpable too. So you walk in the room and you just feel

00:09:20.960 good. You'd say, Oh, all this family is hanging out and they love each other. And, and this

00:09:24.480 person's almost at peace with what's going to happen. Yeah. Um, oftentimes when they're

00:09:28.280 alone, it is sad, but I will say it's also about perspective. Like I've had people alone

00:09:32.560 and they've made me laugh up until the minute that they, that they flatlined. Yeah. Um, and

00:09:38.940 it's really about perspective, but certainly, um, I would say more times than not having a person

00:09:43.440 there with you, um, having loved ones and support systems that makes for a better end of life

00:09:48.760 experience. Yeah. I can only imagine. I'm so curious. What's your sign? My sign? Libra.

00:09:53.500 A Libra. My man's a Libra too. Yeah. He sure is girl. You know what? Libra man. I'll give

00:10:01.820 you guys somewhat of a pass. I'm a little biased cause my man's a Libra and you're a Libra

00:10:06.860 and I know you're a good egg too, but well, when it comes to obviously, obviously we know

00:10:13.040 you're a nurse now and we know you met your lovely girlfriend back at home. Well, whatever

00:10:17.920 your home is and then, and then also nursing. Um, how did you guys meet and start kind of

00:10:23.680 like vibing? Yeah. So I worked as a resource nurse, how I first started off. Thank you for

00:10:28.220 asking me this. That's so funny. Um, I worked as a resource nurse, which essentially means

00:10:32.380 you go to different floors all the time. So I wasn't committed to one floor. I would just

00:10:36.560 one day go to another one the next month, go to another. Yeah. Um, her floor happened to be

00:10:41.100 one that I was picking up on and yeah, it was night shift and I met her. Um, it was

00:10:45.860 me, her and one other nurse and she doesn't remember, but I do. So I didn't leave a lasting

00:10:52.360 memory, I guess. Oh, she's like, I'm sorry. I completely forgot I met you that night. She

00:10:58.020 said that I was, she said her first impression of me was that it was night shift. Um, I was

00:11:02.260 way too excited. She's like, you got too much going on. Exactly. I'm tired. Exactly. Um, but

00:11:08.900 that's how we met. Um, and it wasn't, uh, until like a year and a half later that we

00:11:12.300 really started to talk. Well, I would get to know each other. I would reach into her

00:11:16.720 DMs. I'd write to her. Look at you. That's funny. You chased. That's so funny. My man

00:11:21.660 chased me too. That's how it works. I get the best people. How did he chase you? He, my

00:11:26.000 boyfriend and I went to high school together, but we didn't date in high school. We just knew

00:11:29.360 each other. Like we were like buddies, colleagues is what I like to call it. Uh, yeah. Cause

00:11:35.100 we went to different colleges and then had different life experiences, dated other

00:11:38.800 people. And then after college, when I graduated and moved home is when he started hitting me

00:11:43.400 up. Um, but I just like, I never reached back out cause I was annoyed with him. Yeah. He

00:11:47.780 pissed me off. And then he chased, he chased me for a while. And then at the end he was

00:11:51.060 like, this is my last chance. I am really sorry. Please let me make it up to you. And

00:11:54.380 I was like, all right, fine. Yeah. Joke's on me. He got me here. We are seven years later.

00:12:00.120 It shows you like whenever they're willing to work for it, that's a beautiful sign. Period. If

00:12:05.540 he wanted to, he would anyways. Uh, I know you just told us about, uh, the, the one patient

00:12:11.400 that really like kind of pushed you to really start recording yourself. Were there any kind

00:12:15.420 of moments where you were like, did you ever like have moments where you're like, I don't

00:12:19.900 know if I can keep doing this. Cause I know it's really taxing being a nurse, especially

00:12:23.880 like through COVID I can only imagine. Um, especially an ICU nurse. So I'm so curious if you ever had

00:12:29.980 moments where you're like, I don't know if I, cause I honestly don't know how people like

00:12:33.440 you do that. Like that would just, it kills me emotionally. I can't be around that for too long.

00:12:37.540 So I'm curious how to, if you had that experience prior. Yeah. Uh, certainly I think a lot of days

00:12:43.320 and this goes for a lot of people. It certainly wasn't just me having bad experiences as a nurse

00:12:48.040 or as a medical provider in general. Um, yeah, a lot. You have those thoughts with, uh, I don't know

00:12:53.780 if I should do this anymore, but the beautiful thing about making these videos is that it was

00:12:57.880 therapy for me. So it was, it was helping me. It was filling my cup as a nurse and being a nurse

00:13:02.580 was filling my cup as a content creator. Yeah. So they're kind of helping you heal.

00:13:06.640 Exactly. Yeah. It was an outlet that I needed. So a lot of days would happen, um, at the hospital

00:13:11.800 where you're like, I don't know if I can do this three, four days a week. Yeah. Um, because

00:13:15.860 you see some stuff and it's like the, one of the hardest moments of your life, really emotional

00:13:20.200 trauma. You're, you're paralyzed, sedating CPR. You got to dress someone and sit, take them

00:13:24.540 to the morgue and that's a Tuesday for you. You know what I mean? Then you have to like

00:13:27.820 go home and you're like, I gotta go work the next day. Exactly. And just pretend like

00:13:31.860 it never happened. Exactly. And it's really emotionally challenging for me to toe that line

00:13:36.260 between don't build a connection with the patient at all because you don't want to take the work

00:13:39.780 home with you and build a connection, make them feel comfortable in an uncomfortable

00:13:42.820 setting. That's almost impossible. I know. So what I ended up opting to do is just building

00:13:47.680 a connection, being really sad. Yeah. You're like, I'm just ready to get hurt again. Exactly.

00:13:52.260 Yeah. I think that makes you a very good nurse. First of all, I think nurses have a hard ass

00:13:57.980 job, man. I don't know how y'all do that. I think also to your ability to be around any

00:14:02.620 sort of bodily fluid at any time is also a superpower. I will say that. Thank you. I can't

00:14:07.340 even imagine that. I it's like it, that freaks me out. So I can't even imagine. It's funny

00:14:12.300 too. Cause I don't like, I obviously bodily fluids, they scare me like they would any human

00:14:18.520 that's not in the medical field. But for some reason, like anything with dogs doesn't ever

00:14:22.960 bother me animals, like animal, like waste of any kind that doesn't bother me at all.

00:14:28.060 But my boyfriend's the opposite. Like he, like he cannot go near animal shit at all, but he

00:14:33.060 could easily clean up blood. Like he's like, eh, it's fine. I'm just like Peely. I can't

00:14:37.540 do it. Cats. My grandmother has a cat and anytime it vomits, I have to clean it up. And, uh, I

00:14:43.140 just, I'm like gagging the entire time. Yeah. That's my boy. He's so dramatic. I'm always

00:14:46.480 like, it's fine. But like if something else like throw up or anything like that, he he's

00:14:50.620 like, Oh, it's fine. I'll clean it. I don't think about like the bottle, not to get too

00:14:53.940 graphic. No, you're fine. I had a patient who had a, um, who had an IV in the jugular

00:14:58.740 and they pulled it out. And if anyone knows anything about the jugular, that's a lot of

00:15:03.160 blood that comes out. And I remember it just spraying everywhere, but I don't get phased

00:15:08.440 at all. Like it was hitting me. It was hitting the ceiling. My cat pukes, my grandmother's

00:15:12.040 cat pukes. I'm like, I can't do this. You're getting sprayed with blood and you're like,

00:15:17.300 it's fine. Actually, no worries. Actually, no worries at all. It's totally fine. That's

00:15:22.100 crazy. Blood going to the ceiling. Oh my God. I'd kill myself. That's horrible. Yeah. Well,

00:15:26.180 the pressure is so high. It's a whole thing, but it's, you know, the reasoning, the logical

00:15:32.420 part of your brain being like, it's totally fine. That's crazy. With the cat. I'm like,

00:15:37.340 why did you do this? You're like, Madison, please come in here. I can't do this by myself.

00:15:41.280 Please. Grandma, you got to clean this one up. Grandma, go ahead and strap in. Okay. Cause

00:15:45.520 I can't do that. That's so funny. That's so me and my boyfriend too. He, he gags violently.

00:15:49.640 Like my dog literally took a shit. I felt so bad for him. I think he ate something that

00:15:53.920 hurt his stomach. My dog is a Frenchie. So he's naturally a peanut allergy kid and is allergic

00:15:57.900 to everything. Like literally squid, literally anything. If he eats literally anything that's not

00:16:03.220 within his prescribed, he'll vomit. And, um, it's funny cause we went through this phase

00:16:07.100 of trying to figure out what the fuck was going on with him. Because when I took him

00:16:10.360 to the vet, they're like, so it's just vomit. I'm like, what do you call it when he does

00:16:15.000 that thing that that little lizard in Jurassic Park does? Like when he goes like, what do

00:16:20.380 you call that? I'm like, whatever the exorcist does when it like their, her head goes all the

00:16:24.260 way around and then she sprays black tar. That's how he vomits. So like thoughts, like, do you

00:16:29.360 have any, I don't know. I don't think that's vomit. I feel like it's something else. And when

00:16:34.120 we were going through that phase, like he, he's out the other side now, thankfully he's

00:16:38.480 okay now. But, um, one time he has, he had an upset tummy and he's crate trained. So

00:16:42.880 he will never poop or pee in the crate. Like he could be in there forever and he would never

00:16:46.800 do it. And I heard him rustling, but I didn't register it as him trying to get out when we

00:16:51.460 were in our room. The next morning I saw he literally put his ass up against the crate

00:16:55.760 and shit out of it, which genius, by the way, my son is a genius, but he literally was like,

00:17:01.600 he put his ass like through the hole. He found the workaround. Yeah. Yeah. And he was like,

00:17:05.200 I got to shit and I'm not doing it in here. And he literally shit outside the crate. My boyfriend

00:17:09.640 was violently gagging. He's like, I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it. Cause it was,

00:17:13.820 it was pretty bad. And I cleaned it. I cleaned the whole thing. And then he helped me wash the

00:17:17.300 linens and everything. He's like, thank you for cleaning. I just, I can't do that. I can't do that.

00:17:20.220 I was like, I know. Well, I understand completely why Pili doesn't like it now. Like my cat just

00:17:24.680 pukes a little bit. I see now why he's traumatized us to be honest. Uh, but anyways, we'll move on

00:17:32.260 from bodily fluids. We'll move on from that. Uh, but when it comes to your content specifically,

00:17:37.120 uh, when did you like, what was, I know you had that one video that did really well,

00:17:41.420 but when did you start seeing the stories from strangers kind of really picking up? Was there one

00:17:45.740 video in particular? Was it kind of just like a gradual increase? You know, it was gradual.

00:17:50.500 Um, let me tell you about my first video. Okay. So I kind of lied. I lied again. Hunter keeps

00:17:57.480 lying. Okay. So my first video ever was, um, I was, I'd never had Tik TOK. This was 2021. I

00:18:06.180 still didn't have Tik TOK. I heard about my friends having it, but I was again, one of those guys

00:18:10.260 didn't want to go to therapy and one of those guys that wasn't going to download Tik TOK. I was just

00:18:12.840 like, nah, I'm not doing that. The same guy. Yeah. So my nurse friends, it was night shift at the end of

00:18:18.200 the shift and they were doing this video where, uh, they would take, um, expired, um,

00:18:23.880 blood tubes. It didn't have blood in them, but expired blood tubes. Yeah. And they would

00:18:27.240 tape them to their, uh, Crocs and it looked like a high heel. And then there was like an

00:18:31.760 Iggy Azalea song. It was like, walk a mile. And so they were doing it and I was like, what

00:18:36.840 are you guys doing? And they're like, Oh, this thing. I was like, I didn't mind the concept,

00:18:40.460 but the, the visuals was like, this looks terrible girls. And they were like, they're

00:18:44.740 like, who are you? You're like, the lighting is terrible. Framing's bad. Exactly. They're

00:18:48.460 like, you think you can do better? And I was like, well, I could try. And so like download

00:18:51.780 Tik TOK. So I downloaded Tik TOK and I recorded it for them. Yeah. And they were like, okay,

00:18:56.240 that is so good. Can you send that to us? I did not know how Tik TOK work. I just figured

00:18:59.420 out what the record button was. Yeah. And so I was like, sure. What do I do? And they're

00:19:03.300 like, just create it and then post it, then send it to us. And I was like, okay. And then I

00:19:07.340 posted it, but I didn't have them as friends and I was private. So I thought I had to go

00:19:12.360 public and send it to them. Yeah. So I went public and sent them the video. And the next

00:19:16.460 day of the video had like 200,000 views, 200,000. That was a lot. Cause I had never seen any

00:19:20.640 views for a first video. That is a whole lot. Yeah. Hell yeah. And so that was my first video

00:19:25.460 ever. And I gained like maybe one follower from it. I didn't have a profile picture of my

00:19:30.560 only video. Um, so then there was more impetus for me to say, okay, while I have as much traction

00:19:36.500 as I'll ever have, I want to post this video about my patient passing away because hopefully

00:19:41.060 it will be seen by people. Um, and then that's how it was. It actually, it parlayed well into

00:19:45.300 that video and that first stories from a stranger video, um, did well. And it was sort of on from

00:19:51.480 there. Um, it was gradual. There's certainly peaks and valleys. Um, even today there's peaks

00:19:55.960 and valleys. Um, what was the first like stories with a stranger? The first stories with a stranger

00:20:00.960 specifically, um, that video immediately was met with, with like, well, um, it was me

00:20:08.500 walking out to a Bloomfield, which is a small neighborhood in Pittsburgh, which is where most

00:20:13.240 of my videos were from. Um, obviously I've since expanded, but the first two years it was

00:20:17.660 just literally just this block. Um, and yeah, it was a woman, it was this older woman and I

00:20:23.580 felt so bad. She was carrying her groceries, but I was like so nervous. I just walked up to

00:20:28.320 her and I was like my first time ever walking up to someone, but she's carrying groceries,

00:20:31.620 but you know, it'll be quick. Yeah. It wasn't quick. I spoke for a lot. She spoke to me for

00:20:35.180 a long time. Um, and I asked her what's one piece of advice you give someone who's struggling

00:20:40.240 to find happiness. Yeah. And she gave a beautiful response. Um, but my videos, you might notice

00:20:45.680 it'll be like the person and then background video person background video. I only do that

00:20:50.460 because when I was talking to this woman, all I use is my camera phone. Yeah. When I was

00:20:54.720 talking to her, I was so entranced in the conversation. My phone kept going. Oh, like

00:20:59.160 dipping, dipping. And I kept forgetting to like show her. And so most of the video was

00:21:02.860 her feet. And I was like, okay, she doesn't want her. I'm sure she does not want her just

00:21:06.980 feet on the internet. Her giving beautiful advice. Yeah. So every moment you could see

00:21:10.820 her face, I put her face. Every moment you saw her feet, I put a background. Oh, that's

00:21:15.340 why my aesthetic. You're like so, so artistic. Just forgetting. Exactly. I'm like, look how

00:21:20.600 everyone's like, Oh man, you have such an aesthetic. I'm like, yeah, I'm so artsy. For

00:21:24.840 sure. I do by force, but it's still there. Yeah. Oh, that's so great. That video was

00:21:30.520 the first stories from a stranger. And that was since then it was, it's been doing well.

00:21:34.580 Well, you also have the series where they write stories and they put them in the bowl.

00:21:38.140 How did that come about? So I interviewed a stranger and it was a beautiful response.

00:21:43.740 Um, and then at the end they're like, you know what? Actually I'm nervous. I'd prefer to

00:21:47.800 be anonymous. And I was like, I don't know how I'd make this person anonymous. And I was

00:21:52.560 like, that's fine. That's cool. Like whatever. Yeah. And so I went home and I was like, how

00:21:56.020 can people give me stories, um, and remain anonymous? Yeah. Because I know a lot of people

00:22:00.720 want to tell me their story. They're just nervous to show themselves on camera or at least they

00:22:04.420 don't like the way they look. They don't like their voice. Like there's something, it's nothing

00:22:07.640 personal. It's just that they feel like they won't deliver it well. Yeah. Um, so how can

00:22:11.740 I do that? And then that's how notes from a stranger was bred. I love that. And how has

00:22:15.680 that series like been going? Like how do you, what's your like favorite kind of notes from

00:22:19.540 a stranger? I love those videos of yours too. They're so fun. It's a series that I, so I

00:22:23.800 made them one for anonymous notes. Yeah. So people could be anonymous, but two, because

00:22:28.200 it was so cold in Pittsburgh, I told you that's where I started. Yeah. No one was out talking.

00:22:32.500 Yeah. So my mind was, I'm just going to make these notes from a stranger for a week, two

00:22:37.160 weeks and just be done. Move on back to stories from a stranger. Yeah. I thought I was

00:22:40.520 a one trick pony. I'm just gonna do stories from a stranger. Yeah. Um, and then those videos

00:22:44.620 immediately like that first notes video, I don't, I don't really pay attention to views

00:22:48.780 was like 30 or 40 million views. The first one. Damn. That's great. And since then it's

00:22:52.460 still been great. Yeah. Um, so that's become a series of its own. Yeah. Now I consistently

00:22:56.800 like some people are following me just for that. Yeah. If anything, that might be, that

00:23:01.640 might be an easier way to get people to talk to you. Cause like you said, like not everybody

00:23:06.280 and you know this now too, I'm sure, especially at this point, not everybody's as comfortable

00:23:09.960 on camera or even like, like when you first start recording yourself. Cause I'm, I was

00:23:14.140 a journalism major in college. So when I first started recording myself and having to like

00:23:18.960 at like frame it, light it, mic myself and then talk and then also edit it after I like

00:23:25.480 hated looking at myself. I hated hearing my voice. Like it's fucking awful when you're like

00:23:30.280 rewatching it. I'm still like that. Yeah. So I can't even imagine like being vulnerable

00:23:35.220 too, like with someone they just met, but then also like they really want to tell their

00:23:40.160 story, but feeling vulnerable. And then on top of that, they're like, and what if I look

00:23:43.100 ugly? Exactly. Then I'm done. Then it's even worse. Exactly. So I think that's a brilliant

00:23:47.100 idea. Honestly. Whenever I talk to a stranger, not a lot of people know this, but it's sometimes

00:23:51.680 it can be for five minutes. Like they just only want to talk for five minutes, but more often

00:23:55.240 than not, it's like 45 minutes to like two hours that they're talking to me. Damn. And

00:23:59.340 they only see like a minute. They only see that two minute, one minute. Yeah. They only see

00:24:03.140 that like distilled down version. Um, what people don't understand is conversation. There's

00:24:08.120 a lot of it. That's like an art. It's sort of like a dance. Totally. Like when you're

00:24:11.580 talking to someone, you can't just be like, tell me the most vulnerable thing you've ever

00:24:14.140 been through. You can't just do that. Totally. Um, I would never be able to respond to that.

00:24:18.300 Yeah. So it's very important. The nuance of conversation, like idle conversation, talk about,

00:24:23.680 start the conversation, talk about the weather. Totally. You have to kind of foreplay

00:24:27.560 your way. Yeah, it is. It is. I'm laughing, but it's true. And it's, it's honestly a skill.

00:24:33.980 Like you have a wonderful talent, like being able to talk to people, but not just like,

00:24:39.680 not just talk to them. Cause anyone can make small talk, but like, it's more so, like you

00:24:44.280 said, it's an art form of making them feel comfortable enough to be able to open up to

00:24:50.000 you and feel safe in doing so. And then also feel safe in knowing that you're recording it.

00:24:54.600 Like that is a skill. It's like a very skilled art form and not many people can do that.

00:24:59.480 That's why I think sometimes when you see people interview, whether it's like celebrities or just

00:25:03.640 random people on the street, if you don't like how the conversation goes, it's probably because

00:25:07.060 they're not very good at warming people up. And also I feel like the rise of like, uh, you know,

00:25:13.720 these kind of like quick bite, like YouTube street interview type people, people are very skeptical

00:25:19.400 about talking to people on the street. Cause they're like, you're going to humiliate me or something.

00:25:23.900 Like, because they've seen lots of examples of it. So the fact that you're not only able to

00:25:28.620 get them like to a place where they feel comfortable and safe, but also share something

00:25:33.020 really impactful with you is a skill. I commend you on that. That's why I followed you. Cause I

00:25:38.620 really enjoy, I love, you know, I love to fucking talk, but like, I love, I love someone who has

00:25:44.620 that ability to make people feel so comfortable and safe that they feel confident enough sharing a

00:25:50.380 story that could help somebody else. I think that's such a wonderful talent that you have and I'm

00:25:54.940 glad you're still doing it and still being a nurse. Yeah. Well, I was going to say, I think you have it

00:25:59.260 too. I think it's important that we started as like a nine to five worker and then got into the social

00:26:05.660 media world. We weren't born into it. So there's a certain edit, like you build etiquette being a human

00:26:11.900 that isn't on the, the fishbowl of society. Yeah. Yeah. Um, we were in our twenties when we started

00:26:17.500 this. Totally. Some people start when they're 14, 15, 16. I can't even, can you imagine? Oh my gosh.

00:26:21.900 No way. I don't want to see what I was doing at that age. No. And it creates, it creates such a

00:26:26.540 weird dynamic for them and society as well because you have these 15, 16, 20 year olds that were only

00:26:33.820 no being famous. And so they walk around knowing that they're the ones that built their entire life.

00:26:38.460 It was never, never any human experience. Exactly. Yeah. And so you can't blame them,

00:26:43.980 but at the same time, it's kind of like, that's where a lot of that clippy viral mentality. Exactly.

00:26:48.540 Yeah. You're so real for that. That's so true. I was just talking about that with my boyfriend

00:26:52.060 the other day. Cause I was like, I'm really glad that I, this happened to me well into my twenties.

00:26:58.220 Like when I was, I graduated from college already. I was already, I was working normal jobs. I was so

00:27:03.180 fucking normal before this happened to me. And I'm grateful for that. Cause I feel like it's

00:27:08.380 made us better content creators too. Just cause like we, aside from just, you know, life experience,

00:27:15.500 cause I think it's important to be a normal human for a long time before you do something like this.

00:27:20.620 Cause like you said, it could just, it could 100% just warp your reality and like how you see things,

00:27:25.900 how you see people, but past that, I feel like it makes us more grateful for this, especially you.

00:27:31.660 Cause your job was way fucking harder than the one I had. But like, you know how, how awesome

00:27:37.100 it is to be able to do this for a living and like make money. Um, but you also know how hard it was

00:27:42.300 not doing this and being a fucking nurse and like taking care of people and watching them pass is

00:27:46.380 like, geez, I can't even fucking imagine. Yeah. That's crazy. That's way harder than what I was

00:27:49.900 doing before this. When I got fired from my job, I was not doing that. I was doing something less

00:27:55.100 important. No. Well, but also being a nurse is humbling. Being a medical provider is humbling

00:28:00.220 internal too. Because like I said, on a Tuesday, you'll be like elbow deep in someone's like,

00:28:05.740 but wiping them like, and they can't do it themselves. Yeah. And so it's sad, but it's also

00:28:10.780 like, wow, this is what's happening Saturday night while my friends are out having fun.

00:28:15.580 Yeah. And so you develop early the sense of, I'm definitely not cooler than anyone. Like,

00:28:20.220 look what I was just doing. Someone just peed on me. Someone just spit on my face. Like, I'm not cool.

00:28:25.100 You know, it's very humbling in a very, very grounding way, which is never a bad thing,

00:28:31.420 especially when you do this. Cause I, I, I think I was telling when I was talking to Zach saying about

00:28:35.660 it, I was telling him like, I understand why some people, when they come into this,

00:28:40.460 like you said, very young and they ascend really fast. I understand why sometimes they become the

00:28:45.820 worst because it's insane. Like the shit we get to do and the people we get to meet is so weird.

00:28:51.580 Cause you're like, I'm like, so not supposed to be here. Like I'm so normal. Like what the

00:28:56.700 fuck am I doing here? And so like, I get why that gives people this different, it's like,

00:29:02.860 it just completely reframes their mind of how they see the world and how they see people,

00:29:07.420 how they see themselves. So I'm glad that you and I were so fucking uncool before this.

00:29:13.420 No, really. And I don't know if you notice like your friends who aren't on social media versus

00:29:17.500 the people you may associate with on social media. Yeah. But at least for me with nursing,

00:29:22.940 the dichotomy of how magnanimous people that I've met on social media at a young age think they are

00:29:27.980 compared to how not cool nurses think they are. Yep. I'll talk to nurses and they think they're

00:29:32.860 literally like the bottom of society and I'll talk to like social media friends or acquaintances.

00:29:37.900 Yeah. And they think they are the top of society. It's so weird. Yeah. It's like juxtaposing that

00:29:44.140 mentality. You're like, really? It's really gross too. Like when you see, you're like,

00:29:47.820 that's, I could never feel more important than that. Even when I, that's why I'm grateful for

00:29:53.340 friends. And I'm sure you, you are too, that are still your friend now. Like they were your friend

00:29:58.860 before they're your friend now. And they treat you exactly the same. Um, when I was on a podcast

00:30:03.500 recently, she asked me like, Oh, you know, do some of your friends like treat you differently? Are

00:30:07.260 they weird or whatever? And I was like, honestly, no, because I was an adult. Like I was a full grown

00:30:11.420 adult when this happened to me. So the friends I still have are still my friends and they don't

00:30:15.580 give a fuck about this. Like they don't care that I do this for a living. They're happy for me,

00:30:19.180 but they're not like, they don't see me any differently. I don't see them any differently.

00:30:23.260 Yeah. And it's very normal, which you need. I was like, I crave normalcy so much now. I crave

00:30:29.180 people who don't give a fuck about what I do. I'm super cool with that. A hundred percent. I still

00:30:33.660 have a group chat with the kids that I graduated with high school and yeah, they still just roast me.

00:30:39.020 Like they're never like, Hunter, you're so cool for doing this. They're always just like,

00:30:43.180 what's up, douche? I don't say my friends are so like, they're so fucking mean to me in a funny way.

00:30:50.300 Yeah. And there's, they don't give a damn. Like some of them I'll tell them, I'm like, Oh yeah,

00:30:54.060 I'm doing this. They're like, Oh, cool. Yeah. They're so not like, it's, uh, one of me and my

00:30:59.100 boyfriend's really good friends, um, that we hang out with all the time. He, after I hosted black Adam and

00:31:04.460 like got to meet the rock and everything, which was really cool. When I got home, he was like, well,

00:31:08.780 how was New York? He follows me by the way. So he knows what I did. I was like, Oh cool.

00:31:12.460 I, I, you know, I got to meet the rock and he was like, that's cool. And then he was like,

00:31:16.460 do you eat any good food when you're over there? And I was like, yeah, I actually went to an Italian

00:31:19.980 place. He's like, nice. He cared more about the fucking spaghetti I ate than who I met and

00:31:25.100 he didn't give a shit. And I was like, and I love that. I love that for us. It's amazing to have

00:31:29.100 grounding friends like that. You need that. You need, especially doing this. Uh, I do have another

00:31:34.140 question for you when it comes to like the community you've built. Like, have you noticed,

00:31:39.900 have you gotten a lot of people reaching out to you telling you like this really healed me in a lot

00:31:44.380 of ways or like this was my experience too. And it makes me feel less alone. Like, do you get that a

00:31:49.180 lot? I feel like you get that all the time. The first real video that I ever posted, not that,

00:31:53.420 not that Louis Vuitton, not the lie. Yeah. Not the lie. The actual first video I posted. Um,

00:31:58.700 and one of the reasons why I think I still do this was so much bigger and then because

00:32:02.780 I like it. Um, the first video I posted, I got a DM from someone and they said that this video,

00:32:12.060 I was thinking about ending my life and this video allowed me to talk to my mom about it.

00:32:18.140 And now I'm going to therapy and I just want to say thank you. And I didn't stop that. It wasn't me

00:32:22.940 that stopped that person from ending their life. They did that. Yeah. But the fact that they could even

00:32:27.020 credit me with having a sliver of influence in that decision, I just felt so good. And that was

00:32:32.380 one of the first videos that was the first video I ever posted. Yeah. Of like stories with us,

00:32:36.300 stories from strangers. So from there I was like, I, this is a thing that I want to do and that other

00:32:41.820 people. Yeah. And I feel like, especially when you said you, you really love words and you love

00:32:47.100 human connection. It seems as if it's gotten to a point where now you've, you're walking in your

00:32:52.300 true purpose, which is to connect. Right. Which I think is a beautiful thing. And I feel like

00:32:56.860 that's the power of social media. That's like the beautiful side of it. And I'm sure you know this.

00:33:00.860 I don't know if you, do you ever get hate on her? I feel like you don't like if you do,

00:33:03.980 it's probably just like silly shit or annoying shit. Yeah. It's hard. Honestly. Um,

00:33:08.380 what's so fun about my community is, uh, I worked in San Francisco for a while. Okay. Um,

00:33:13.260 so there was a moment of time in my content where there are a lot of, um,

00:33:16.940 people in the LGBTQ plus community. Um, and I would get some comments where it would be, Hey,

00:33:22.620 like, why, why so many gay people? What is this? The comment would have one like,

00:33:27.500 and it would probably be the person liking their own comment. Yeah. Yeah. And it would have like

00:33:30.060 47 comments under it. It was my comment. They're just getting jumped. Oh, my community is going

00:33:34.900 crazy. Yeah. That's why sometimes I'd be leaving them in there. I'm like, you're going to get jumped

00:33:39.260 in this neighborhood. Exactly. Okay. And if you click on them, it's never, they're, they're never following

00:33:42.980 me. No. They found my video through the algorithm. And they just want to be hateful and feel good about

00:33:46.680 themselves. So no, so me, me receiving hate is pretty rare. That's good. That's a good thing,

00:33:51.500 especially. And that makes me feel good. Honestly, I'm glad because it's your content is so pure and

00:33:58.180 it's intent. And it makes me violently angry when people want to hate on shit like that. Cause like,

00:34:03.660 if you hate me, that's fine ish. Uh, I just get it because I'm very like confrontational and I'm like,

00:34:10.720 I'm literally like looking for fights. Like I go and fuck people up on purpose. So like,

00:34:15.520 if I were to be like, what the fuck, why is everyone saying you hate? Then that would be

00:34:19.040 insane. Uh, but yours is so pure in its intent and purpose that it makes me angry thinking about

00:34:25.040 people hating on it for no fucking reason. Like there are some people I think about where like,

00:34:29.720 I, I always reference, uh, Emily Mariko, uh, because I, I love her. She's so sweet. And like

00:34:35.160 her and I are mutuals and she's great, but she doesn't even talk in her videos and she gets so much

00:34:40.580 hate, which I find insane. I find that to be insane. She doesn't even talk. And people are

00:34:45.720 like, I don't know, just bad vibes. What the fuck? Like, what are you talking about? So I feel the

00:34:51.340 same way, but your content, it's like, it's so pure in its intent and purpose and it's obvious what

00:34:55.780 it's for. And if it's not for you, scroll past it, babe, you can very easily scroll past it.

00:35:01.820 And then, but that's for every content. Like the person talking, if you don't like it,

00:35:05.880 why are you just not scrolling? I don't know. Especially in this society, like where literally

00:35:09.820 everything's scrolling out. Yeah. Just scroll. I just can't relate. I feel like maybe it's

00:35:15.980 cause we're old Hunter. Yeah. We're so old in, in like social media years. Like cause I, cause

00:35:21.000 I'm 20, you're 20, you're 19. Yep. Yep. So look at us. Freshly 19, freshly out of high school.

00:35:27.700 But I will say that my content is, it's so detached from me and it's always the person highlighting

00:35:33.640 that the experiences that we experience are totally unique to ourselves. Yeah. But the

00:35:38.360 emotions are so intertwined within all of us. Yeah, totally. I'll never understand the

00:35:42.720 experiences you went through and you want to understand mine, but I will understand the

00:35:45.460 anxiety you felt and the paranoia and the upset and the love, the heartbreak. Yeah. We've

00:35:50.480 all experienced those things. Just in different ways. In different ways. And because of that,

00:35:54.920 that connects us. Yeah. So I think that that's hard to, for someone just to go out of the

00:35:58.820 way and be like, I hate this story. It's like, what? Okay. Yeah. Congratulations. Uh,

00:36:05.320 I feel like to, even with your, with your ability to get people to open up and be, feel vulnerable.

00:36:12.440 I'm so curious, like, has anyone that you have spoken to and their video did really well? Have

00:36:16.640 they ever been like, this was so great. Like, thank you. Like they ever, have they ever reached

00:36:20.060 back out to you and told you like, I saw the video. Thank you for sharing my story. Yeah. So

00:36:24.260 when I first started doing this, that was rare. I would meet the stranger. And then as the last

00:36:28.820 time I spoke to them, I thought there was a little something poetic about that. Like

00:36:31.740 you'll never see them again. Yeah. Now almost every video I do without question, there'll

00:36:36.080 be a comment that's like, that's my grandma or that's my mom. That's my sister. So there's

00:36:39.700 always now like, uh, what do they call it? Six points of like six degrees of separation.

00:36:43.720 Six degrees of separation. There's always someone that knows someone in my videos. Yeah. Um, and

00:36:48.300 yes, though, I, there are some who I've kept in contact with and they mean a lot to

00:36:53.220 me. We still talk. Actually, I was just in San Diego and I got a phone call from a random

00:36:57.920 Pittsburgh number and I was like, well, it's Pittsburgh. I'll pick it up. Yeah. And it

00:37:00.700 was one of my videos that I did like three years ago and it was this older man. And he

00:37:04.060 was like, Hey Hunter, I just wanted to check up. How's the video doing? Cause he doesn't

00:37:07.540 have TikTok or Instagram. He's like, how many views are we at? And I told him, he's like,

00:37:11.260 wow. He's like, wow. Is he an older man? He's older. Yeah. That's so funny. I love when

00:37:17.980 they're like, is that like good? And you're like, yep. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. So

00:37:24.960 speaking of we'll transition into our topic. So our topic for today is basically why do

00:37:30.060 horrible men on the internet love to hate on other people's healing journeys, which is

00:37:32.900 what we're just talking about. I think there's obviously there's a ton of layers so that I

00:37:37.400 think like you were joking about earlier, a lot of men, um, don't heal, uh, by choice

00:37:44.000 and, uh, they should cause everyone should and can. Um, but I'm sure that's why there's

00:37:50.160 if you were to like, I don't know if I were to like close my eyes and point, there's always

00:37:55.660 like, if I'm pointing at the guy, it's probably a man who's mad for no reason about shit like

00:37:59.980 that. Um, but that's why I asked if you get any hate cause I doubt it. But when you do,

00:38:04.020 it's probably anonymous more than anything. What's on top of that point. It's like, there

00:38:08.380 is always a way out. Like you said, there's always a way to heal yourself. You have to find

00:38:12.760 it. Totally hurt people, hurt people. That's the most cliche thing, but whatever you're

00:38:16.920 about to read, these people are hurt. I already know. And it's like, it's so simple just to

00:38:21.340 find different outlets. If one doesn't work, therapy does not have to work for you. Yeah.

00:38:24.980 That's okay. If therapy doesn't work, it doesn't happen. You have to try it first though. Yeah.

00:38:28.300 Find out if it doesn't. Try it once. Try it a few times if it doesn't, but there's something.

00:38:32.260 Yeah. Is that crocheting? Is that like hanging out with your mom? Like with your dad? Like

00:38:36.560 what is it? Go hug your dad. I don't know. Okay. I'm going to read one of these videos. Okay.

00:38:40.820 This first one is in this video, a girl is describing using a series of pictures. It's

00:38:47.440 like one of those slideshow videos and how over the course of several months after her

00:38:51.280 breakup, she went from saying no to everything, like not seeing friends, not being motivated

00:38:55.080 to do anything, not eating healthy, not enjoying her job to saying yes more and entering her

00:39:00.040 healing era with videos of her working out, taking care of herself, going on trips, seeing

00:39:03.900 her friends, all of that. And these comments are obviously very mean because people are evil

00:39:09.840 and this one says, change your character and he probably would have stayed. Basically

00:39:15.180 saying it's, that's probably on you. Like, oh, I get it. That's one of those where she's

00:39:19.340 like, I started taking care of myself after my breakup and they're like, well, why didn't

00:39:23.080 you do it while you were with them? Maybe he would still be there. Yeah. Not one of those.

00:39:28.300 Oh, I love to hate on healing people's journeys.

00:39:30.460 Well, good for her though. That's what I'm saying. That's amazing. I always think if

00:39:34.640 you, if you see those, if I see those videos and they're like glow ups, not even physically,

00:39:39.800 like they just look happier and healthier in whatever way that may be. I always think

00:39:44.840 maybe it's because they were with the wrong person. Like they always leave that part out.

00:39:48.600 They're like, why didn't you want to take care of yourself when you were in that relationship?

00:39:52.420 Probably because that person didn't make you feel good. Exactly. And when you don't feel

00:39:55.860 good, you don't take care of yourself. I just feel like that's obvious. Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever see things

00:39:59.960 and you're like, I just feel like that's obvious. And for some reason, everybody's missing the

00:40:02.700 point. Oh, without a doubt. I think that the internet culture really almost culture as a

00:40:06.900 whole, but it's easy on the internet because everyone says this, but you really are behind

00:40:10.640 a screen. Like you. So anonymous. You can't hurt me physically. So haha, I'll say whatever.

00:40:14.800 Yeah, exactly. And so with people like that, it's, it just goes back to what we were saying.

00:40:20.280 If you make content and, and people don't like it, they can just scroll like to comment what

00:40:24.900 that person just said. Yeah. That was like what, maybe two minutes of their time to watch the

00:40:29.200 video, then also type. It's like, what are you doing? I know. I always call that unemployed

00:40:32.580 behavior because clearly it's like bitchless behavior. You know what I mean? Clearly, if

00:40:36.840 you had love in your life, you wouldn't be doing that from your mom or your girlfriend.

00:40:41.040 This one says there's two sides to the story. She, she, like most women are evil. Okay.

00:40:48.780 I don't know about most. I am, but I don't know about most. I don't want to speak on behalf

00:40:53.040 of other women. That's wrong. And it's, it's sad because the first part of that comment

00:40:57.480 is true. And then you have to add that second part for sure. I, it wasn't until my, I was

00:41:07.580 in a serious relationship and we'd broken up. And at first a lot of myself was blaming

00:41:11.880 her. I was like, why did this have to end? This was my future. Like she caused this to

00:41:17.340 end. What the heck? And she even thought so as well. Um, and then as I looked deeper,

00:41:22.540 I realized that, you know, I can be the toxic one too. Like there can be micro toxicities.

00:41:27.360 Like maybe certain days I don't talk to her how I was supposed to, or I was passive with

00:41:31.660 her and I didn't think about little things like that can lead to the end of a relationship.

00:41:35.020 Absolutely. And so by all means, like in that moment, that girl could feel like she was the

00:41:39.440 one wrong. In reality, it could be both. Yeah. That's honestly one of the, uh, most insightful

00:41:45.860 things my sister shared with me after her breakup. Cause my sister had a very big breakup

00:41:50.300 as well. But when we were going through that with her and she was healing, she told me that

00:41:54.400 recently. And I was like, that's so insightful. She was saying like, I look, I can look back

00:41:58.160 and say like, I wasn't a hundred percent innocent in anything. Nobody is. And I've said that before

00:42:03.000 when you fight with people or a partner specifically, no one's a hundred percent innocent. Anytime you

00:42:09.420 argue about literally anything at all. Um, and it's very possible that someone could hurt you

00:42:14.500 and you could have hurt them too in different ways. And if it didn't work out, it just didn't

00:42:18.740 work out. Um, now that's not to say that if something, they committed something egregious

00:42:23.120 like adultery or something like that, obviously that's different, but we're talking about ones

00:42:26.560 that just don't work out. And then you blame, you know, it's, it's, I think it's part of the

00:42:30.320 healing process to feel very angry and feel very upset and resentful. And then part of healing

00:42:36.260 is getting to the part where you're, you're holding yourself accountable to being like, I could

00:42:40.720 have been better in these areas. They could have been better in those areas. It just wasn't meant

00:42:43.520 to be. Yeah. And there's like a freeing part of that. Exactly. And that acknowledgement

00:42:47.060 isn't to, to forgive that person or to say they did nothing wrong. Totally. Um, it's just

00:42:52.960 to acknowledge that I had a part in this. Yeah. It's like for you. Exactly. It's like giving

00:42:57.240 yourself the forgiveness for how you may have acted. And then that's just, that's for me

00:43:01.960 to hold. Like I, I need that so I can move on with my life, which is why I always joke when

00:43:06.960 men are like, Oh, well, gruelly fucked me up back in the day. And have you healed from it?

00:43:11.280 Yeah. Go to therapy. A hundred percent. Or do a story with strangers.

00:43:14.820 With, with Hunter. Yeah. Yeah. But then at the end he says, uh, all girls are evil. That's

00:43:19.400 crazy. How toxic. No, probably. Uh, this one says, why do girls have to go to the gym to

00:43:25.980 heal? I thought it was for weight loss. Okay. Well, that person's probably 13, but I always

00:43:33.420 know. I can always tell when it's like a child writing the comment. I'm like, well, clearly

00:43:37.280 you're 15. Punctuation's weird. Yeah. It's all like, yeah, well, guess what? You're a

00:43:42.040 big fatty. And I'm like, yeah. And you're 14. So. And also the gym certainly is not just

00:43:46.500 for weight loss or weight gain. Sometimes it's cardiovascular health too. Yep. Let them

00:43:50.460 know, nurse. Tell them. Let them know. You can do it for your heart. You can do it for

00:43:53.320 your circulatory system, your lungs, respiratory. Let them know, doctor. But really though, this

00:43:59.240 mindset that, yeah, women get into the gym to get that big butt and slim waist. It's like,

00:44:03.100 that's not, well, and yeah, no, exactly. I know. That's why it's some people literally

00:44:10.420 like my sister calls it. Um, she, cause she, I think she saw it somewhere, but she's like

00:44:14.320 going outside or like when you go for a walk, that's also exercise, right? It's like lizard

00:44:19.100 time. That's what she calls it. She's getting it outside. Sometimes people, I think go to

00:44:22.920 the gym because they just want to get out of the house and go somewhere that's not work.

00:44:26.200 And so they go and then do whatever they got to do. And at least they're around other humans

00:44:29.920 and they're existing in another space, doing something for themselves. And then they go

00:44:33.120 home. There doesn't, there doesn't have to be a goal when you go there. There doesn't

00:44:36.380 have to be like, I'm going to go and I'm going to lift a thousand pounds. Yeah. Oh, that reminds

00:44:41.580 me. This is unrelated entirely to anything we're talking about, but it's just something

00:44:45.040 funny that I thought of. It's like, what type of this guy? Well, I made a video defending

00:44:49.720 WNBA players. Cause I was like, I hate hearing men who couldn't make varsity in high school

00:44:54.440 talking shit on professional athletes. I hate it. So I made a video about it. Obviously a bunch

00:44:58.180 of men got very mad at me, obviously. And, uh, when one guy was like, he was trying to

00:45:04.460 argue with me and I was just being a dick. Like I was just saying silly shit to him.

00:45:08.580 And then he wrote, he's like, Oh yeah, well I bench 400. He said something like I bench

00:45:13.480 275 or 375, some fucking ridiculous number. And he's how much do you bench? And I was like

00:45:18.820 the same. I'm just lying. See lying. I lie all the time. I just be lying and telling people

00:45:25.120 I was like, yeah, I can bench that much. I benched that much yesterday. I didn't, but

00:45:28.900 I love how he throws at his bench. Where did that come from? I don't give a fuck. I was

00:45:34.200 like, okay, you benched 275. How many dates have you gone on in the last week? How about

00:45:38.300 that bitch? Jeez Louise. Okay. I'm going to read this next TikTok. This one is, in this

00:45:43.480 TikTok, a hyper-masculine AI generated cartoon guy is giving a pep. There's a lot of those.

00:45:50.000 Yeah. That's a lot going on already. Is giving a pep talk to the camera. He says, you should

00:45:55.320 never post your achievements on social media. It says, post alcohol, post memes, post jokes

00:46:00.300 so that they think you have no future. People hate progress. Succeed in silence. They can't

00:46:05.940 destroy what they don't know. And then Amanda put question marks in parentheses. Like, wow.

00:46:11.660 Wow. It's like that, those, uh, grind and silence. I love those guys. They're talking about

00:46:19.860 us, Hunter. They're like, don't post things that you do that are good. Exactly. They're

00:46:23.540 talking shit on us. This one says, don't post anything. Work in silence. There you go.

00:46:28.340 Well said. They can't destroy what they don't know. What are you talking about? What are

00:46:33.880 you talking? Sometimes I see what men like that say on the internet. I'm like, I feel

00:46:38.000 like you're living in a different world than I am. What are you talking about? No. And

00:46:41.720 it's like, also people think that they're at like war. It's like, you realize like you're

00:46:45.400 just a dude hanging out in society. You're fine. Like even like the worst case scenario

00:46:50.200 and, but you're like, you're doing fine. It's like, you're fine. You're fine. You're

00:46:54.200 good. Yeah. Like you're not under siege. Like why are you acting like you're in the trenches

00:46:59.580 trying to like build up? For real, dude. Oh my God. I, I, that's kind of why I was dying

00:47:05.520 at the, did you see when the UK was saying they were going to draft men and women? Yeah. And

00:47:10.320 then a bunch of women were making funny, silly ass videos about it. Like they were

00:47:13.360 like, Oh, I can't. Sorry. Yeah. And just all red heart. That's it. They're like, I'm

00:47:17.920 actually like, I'm actually going to get my period next week. So I won't be there. Appreciate

00:47:21.800 it though. But I saw a lot of men getting mad and they were like, see, this is why women

00:47:25.960 want equal rights, but like, we're going to have to go to war. I'm like, you're not going

00:47:29.760 anywhere. You live in Michigan. You're not going to the UK war bitch. Like the UK is not drafting

00:47:35.240 you. Relax. Like the conscription thing. Ooh, they hate that. And it's like, the saddest thing

00:47:40.020 is, is there's situations where war is going on in this current world. Yep. Those guys

00:47:44.340 writing on Tik TOK videos are not part of that. And you could go, they could go, go to your

00:47:50.000 nearest listing office. You literally could walk in there and list if you wanted, but they

00:47:55.160 won't do that. Cause then they wouldn't be in our comments harassing us. They're like,

00:47:58.320 I actually have a full-time job harassing sweet stories from strangers. So can't go to war

00:48:04.600 either. Unfortunately, I'm very busy. And what's wrong with posting achievements anyway? I

00:48:08.520 don't, again, it's like scroll past. Yeah. I don't know. Posting achievements. They just

00:48:13.500 want negativity constantly. And also if you're just posting alcohol and drugs, whatever he

00:48:17.940 just said, or the AI said, um, that is building such a negative connotation on what should be

00:48:24.280 posted. Yeah. People say the internet's toxic, but that's because a lot of it could be alcohol,

00:48:28.380 drugs. Yeah. Like shit. That's all negative. Yeah. What if the internet was always everyone's

00:48:33.220 achievement? That'd be such a nice place to be. Everybody was like nice to each other. Exactly. God,

00:48:38.340 what a world. That would be crazy. They're asking for the opposite, which is crazy. Yeah. And it's

00:48:42.480 also, well, and then even so, like when people like you, when you put out your content and it's

00:48:47.380 like literally nothing but positivity, it's supposed to uplift and encourage and help people, whoever it

00:48:53.460 may be, they'll still be like, well, actually like they'll still have something negative to say.

00:48:59.600 So it's like, we're actually trying to like uplift the energy in here and you're really in a real

00:49:05.160 fucking drag. Exactly. Some of them are such a fucking drag shit. I'm like, you guys just want

00:49:10.040 to see negative shit all the time? I don't. It's exhausting. Unless it's coming from me, then it's

00:49:14.020 funny. Uh, this last one says literally all war is based upon deception. You literally. That's what

00:49:19.820 the last comment says? Yeah. It says all war. War? What war? Every time. It's the same thing when, um,

00:49:26.580 men will say shit like, like awful fucking men on the internet will say things like,

00:49:30.220 oh, well you want men to go away or you don't want men in the world, whatever, which no one

00:49:35.480 ever says that. Uh, they're like, well, who's going to build the buildings and who's going

00:49:39.520 to build the roads and who's going to build the, and I'm like, I don't fucking know, but

00:49:43.720 as long as it's not you, I don't give a shit who does it. First of all. But second of all,

00:49:46.960 I'm always like, how many buildings have you built? Probably the same as me. So it turns out

00:49:51.240 we're both useless fucking women, huh? Cause we're both at home on our phones. Like we're both at

00:49:56.460 home. Well, you've been built shit. And I do want to say that my father left me. My

00:50:01.760 mother did not. So I don't know if that says something about like, can I say something also?

00:50:08.440 Yeah. My boyfriend also has same situation, single mom. Yeah. Same situation. And that's

00:50:12.840 and good eggs. Look at you. And he's a Libra. Wow. You pull off your face and you are Billy.

00:50:19.780 Great hair, long hair. See what I mean? Peeley writes me after this. This is cool. You guys

00:50:24.800 are brothers. What if it was like a parent trap thing? Oh, that would be crazy. He has

00:50:29.700 some amazing hair. I can't. My hair is not like his. No, you guys have both have wonderful

00:50:33.820 hair. It's great. Actually this morning, and he's gonna be so glad I remembered. He told

00:50:38.280 me, he's like, make sure you tell him he's got great hair. And I was like, okay, I'll make

00:50:41.480 sure I tell him. I'll put that at the top of my list. Yeah. Well, tell him I said the same.

00:50:46.800 I'm so happy I got to talk to you. I'm like, genuinely, I adore you. You're so awesome.

00:50:51.400 Thank you, Drew. I'm really, and I mean this with all, I know I'm such a silly goose on

00:50:55.460 the internet, but I mean this with all the seriousness in the world. I think people like

00:50:58.680 you are essential to the internet. I really do. And I think people like you make a huge

00:51:02.600 difference in the, just the overall energy of the internet. Like people like you make

00:51:08.420 me feel like the internet isn't the worst place in the fucking universe because it does

00:51:12.820 feel that way sometimes. But I'm really, really glad that you exist on the platform. I think

00:51:17.180 people like you are essential, far more essential than people like me. So I'm very happy

00:51:20.300 that you exist there. That last part is not true, but thank you so much. That really means

00:51:24.300 a lot to feel seen about you. I appreciate you. Thank you. And I appreciate you and your

00:51:29.220 content very, very much. And I do want to ask you one last question. What would you say is

00:51:35.640 your best piece of advice for people that really want to, like you said, you weren't really sure

00:51:40.580 how, but you did know for sure that you wanted to form human connection because that's where

00:51:44.740 your heart is and that's where you shine clearly. Um, so there are people out there who, who wish

00:51:50.100 for that kind of like connection or whatever, even if they're in a job, like how you're a nurse still,

00:51:55.480 and maybe they have a job too. Like, what would you say is your best piece of advice if they want

00:51:59.020 to foster that kind of connection and maybe just don't know how to start? Yeah. Foster connection

00:52:03.240 to make content or just foster? Uh, both. I would say both. Like whether it's coming from content or just

00:52:08.460 from like a purely, like they just want to, cause remember you said, I remember you said too,

00:52:12.380 when we were at Metta that you were saying, um, a big reason why you wanted to do is cause you

00:52:16.240 wanted to feel that connection again. Like whether it went anywhere, you didn't care. You just really

00:52:20.860 wanted to like feel like humans are inherently good and there is good in the world, which I think

00:52:25.320 is kind of hard, especially nowadays. Yeah. Well, uh, on that, I would say there's always a wall that we

00:52:31.840 have naturally. Like I understand that and that's completely okay. Yeah. Understand that breaking down

00:52:37.040 that wall will facilitate the best communication. And when you talk to someone, it is a fact,

00:52:42.380 as much as gravity is real, that this person has felt emotions that you have felt as well.

00:52:47.820 Yeah. Again, different reasons why, totally different reasons why you might not come from

00:52:51.580 the same world, but pain, love, anxiety, anything, they felt that on the same spectrum that you felt

00:52:57.560 that. Totally. So understand that you are connected. You're already connected. Yeah. It just takes that

00:53:02.280 conversation, you know, and people want to talk and people want to listen. Yeah. I think the listening

00:53:07.680 thing is a huge part. Like you're so, you're such a good listener, which I think is a big reason why

00:53:13.340 people feel so safe when they talk to you. And, uh, what if people want to make content when it comes

00:53:19.400 to that? Yeah. If people want to make content, you have to go into it, not searching for that viral

00:53:24.100 moment. Exactly. Yeah. Again, my conversations will be two hours long. I mean, I have one that was like

00:53:30.060 three and a half. You could see the sun. And then by the end of it, it was nighttime. It was,

00:53:33.800 it was strange, but you have to realize that at the end of the day, why are you doing this? You

00:53:38.920 want to build a connection with someone? Okay. The video doesn't turn out how you want it to.

00:53:42.500 You build a connection still. Yeah, totally. If every moment you're searching for that person to

00:53:46.220 say a word that you think is going to get you that million views or get you that, that viral moment,

00:53:50.260 yeah, you're doing it for the wrong reason that the audience is going to see that. Yeah. When

00:53:54.980 you're proud of your work, the audience sees that when you're not proud of your work and you're trying

00:53:58.600 to do these viral moment clips, they can see that as well. And that might work in a vacuum

00:54:03.480 for a tiny bit amount of time, but it's not going to work. It's not going to sustain.

00:54:07.560 No, it's not going to sustain you. Yeah. You're going to be chasing something always when you're

00:54:11.080 chasing something that just, yeah. It also defeats the purpose, right? The whole point of it was

00:54:15.620 for you. And that's why I'm, I, and I truly do believe this, that like, if you chase it for the

00:54:21.720 wrong reasons, the universe will withhold it from you. I like truly do believe that. And you weren't

00:54:27.700 searching for that. I wasn't searching for that and it happened for us. And that's just because it was

00:54:31.920 meant to, is how I see it. So yeah, I think you're amazing, dude. Thanks for coming on

00:54:36.820 the show. Thanks for having me, Drew. You're the best. And thank you all for watching. Where

00:54:40.400 can everybody find you, Hunter? You can find me on all social medias and all social medias.

00:54:45.640 My name is Hunter Prosper. Period. Make sure y'all go follow Hunter. He's amazing. He's so talented

00:54:50.700 and so sweet. Thank you. And before, before we go, I just want to say, I love you, mom.

00:54:55.400 Oh, sweet. I love you too, mom.

00:54:58.700 Thank you so much for joining us on this episode of the comment section. Make sure y'all go

00:55:05.020 follow Hunter on literally everything because he is so amazing and talented and he's going

00:55:10.760 many different places and working on many amazing things, which I'm sure you guys will

00:55:13.740 hear about soon. So thank you so much for joining us on this week's episode. Don't forget new

00:55:17.580 episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday. You can stream all the audio on

00:55:21.060 all streaming platforms, but the video lives for free and exclusively on our fave platform,

00:55:25.540 Spotify. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Hunter. Thank you for joining us and I'll see

00:55:29.820 you next week. Bye. Drew, you got that down. Period.

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