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00:01:00.020 Smacking asses. I would never understand that on a field. I smack him an ass all the time.

00:01:05.840 And sometimes they really get in there, girl. And I'm kind of like, you were kind of like,

00:01:10.360 oh my god. I was like, well, what about me, you guys?

00:01:12.280 Hey everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring

00:01:23.540 me, your fave. Everybody knows me. Who cares about me? On to the guests. Today we have

00:01:28.100 the iconic duo, the legendary, the hilarious Joe and Andrew from Good Children. Woo!

00:01:32.840 Woo! Welcome to the pod. Thank you for having us. My twins. Me and my sister Jason, this

00:01:39.760 is our twins. It does feel like family. It's us in a different universe. We're variants

00:01:44.340 of each other. Yeah. We would have had a TLC show growing up. Yeah, totally. The four

00:01:49.520 of us together. Yeah, growing up as quadruplets. Quadruplets? Yeah. We're literally the parent

00:01:54.760 trap. Stop. With Lindsay Lohan. We're not sisters, we're quadruplets. We're playing each

00:02:00.020 other's twins. Actually. I'm so happy to have y'all. Oh my god. We go way back. Yeah.

00:02:05.640 We do. We do. We were just chatting. 20 years. Catching up. 20 years. Yeah. We met when we

00:02:10.800 were just children. Four years old. Four years old. Because now I guess we're 24. We're all

00:02:14.340 24. We're all 24. Well, we share a manager, first of all. Me talking as if we're not being

00:02:20.180 recorded and people know us. Yeah. So we share a manager. We also share vibes and DNA, clearly.

00:02:25.060 We look so much alike. And remember when Phil was like, what was he saying? How old

00:02:29.620 we were? Or you were. Oh my god. Phil was telling, I believe, you guys that we were

00:02:35.380 around. Like, our manager was describing us as around, like, the 23 to 24 range. I just

00:02:41.280 graduated college. Yeah. So young. So beautiful. And, I mean, we're up there. We're 28. We're

00:02:46.080 28. The fact that he thought that we were that young. Right. Like, we worked in offices for

00:02:52.860 a bit. For a couple of years before this. Our lore is extensive. Yes. Yeah. Here's

00:02:58.000 my resume. First of all. Well, I adore both of you. That is not a secret. I've sung your

00:03:04.960 praises everywhere. Thank you very much. But y'all have a very successful and hilarious

00:03:08.080 podcast called Good Children. Yes. Which we love. For those of them in the audience who

00:03:14.120 don't know, like, how did you guys come to start Good Children? What's the genesis of you

00:03:18.940 guys? You know, I think it just comes down to delusion. I think it comes down to, we've

00:03:23.500 been, we've actually met when we were four years old. Period. We've been friends for

00:03:27.060 now 23 years. Three years. And a half years. Yes. And still together. Yeah. Somehow we

00:03:32.180 live together. Like Bert and Ernie. We are this generation's Bert and Ernie. But one day, I

00:03:39.620 just feel like you kind of took the plunge. Yeah. We were definitely, listen, I think we told

00:03:43.640 you the story before that there was a gas leak that was happening in our apartment and we

00:03:47.220 were being gas lit. Oh, no. Oh, I never told you this? No. That we were being

00:03:50.720 actually. So like, everyone's like, oh, stop gaslighting me. Remember that time I

00:03:53.800 told you we were being poisoned? No. For a year? So actually, the people that say that

00:03:58.440 they've been gas lit, no, you haven't. You have no idea. Yeah. No, I was gaslighting

00:04:03.820 you. No, we were being gas lit for about a year in our apartment. We were just like

00:04:06.640 smelling this gas and out of nowhere we were slipping into some mania. Okay. And

00:04:11.120 whenever we smelled it, we would just look at each other and be like, no, it's supposed

00:04:14.780 to smell like gas. It's not you gaslighting each other. It's about the gas. We should

00:04:20.240 smell a little gassy at all times. Our friends came over and they'd be like, they would sleep

00:04:24.400 over. They're like, that was the best sleep I've ever had in my life. We're like, yeah,

00:04:26.980 you knocked out, girl. But so. Carbon monoxide. That'll do it. Literally, we slipped into

00:04:33.520 delusion and we said to each other, like, what the hell are we doing with our lives? We're

00:04:36.680 working corporate jobs. Like, this is not what we wanted to do. We wanted to entertain

00:04:40.080 people. And we were sitting on the couch having about a three and a half hour conversation

00:04:44.700 about Rebel Wilson. It was Rebel Wilson. It was. Any particular thoughts or just going

00:04:49.580 over her lore? It was extensive. What was the movie? It was that movie. It actually honestly

00:04:53.560 like falls back into the Good Children universe. It was the movie where she plays like herself

00:04:57.720 going back to high school. Yes. Yeah. And we didn't even watch it. We just had like a

00:05:01.720 full feature like conversation about it, like about the trailer. And then we're like, put

00:05:06.080 a camera on us. Yeah. Let's just talk. And we posted a clip to TikTok and the rest is

00:05:09.580 history. Girl, one thing about me, I'm going to yap. Well, professional yappers. Professionally

00:05:13.740 yappers. Yeah. The three of us. PhDs. Yeah. From Yapp University. We're truly, I know,

00:05:18.100 sometimes I think I'm like, what was I talking about? Like, I'll talk to my boyfriend. I'll

00:05:21.600 start something. I'll end up, I don't even fucking know where. But there's no better

00:05:25.460 feeling. Right? Than being like, I just talked for two hours straight. And I couldn't tell you

00:05:31.580 one. They were really cohesive thoughts. It just like took you on a journey. How did we end up

00:05:36.420 here? I'm crying. I literally would like, I started a, this is not a joke. Like with my

00:05:44.560 boyfriend, I was like, I forget. I was telling him about something I saw on Instagram, like

00:05:47.820 something ancillary stupid. Of course. I'm like, oh my God, I didn't even tell you what I saw the

00:05:50.840 other day. And somehow I ended up talking, like I'm talking for an hour straight. Like he has not

00:05:56.400 interrupted me once. He's just listening. Yeah. I ended up talking about the Chinese Imperial

00:05:59.900 Army. I don't know how I got there. And I literally got there and I was like, what was I

00:06:03.860 talking about? And then he was like, you said something about Instagram. I go, oh, right. So

00:06:07.880 and so got married. Can you believe it? And then he was like, oh, he goes, that's what you were

00:06:13.300 trying to tell me. I was like, yeah, I got off track. My bad. That's doing a podcast. And that's

00:06:18.800 kind of like how, you know, you found the one. If he's going to listen to you speak about the

00:06:21.740 Chinese Imperial Army, if he'll listen to a Patreon episode at random. A full Patreon

00:06:27.420 episode. And he'll sit and he'll look at me and he'll be like, oh, that's nice. And then

00:06:33.080 he goes, what were you telling me? I'm like, oh, right, right, right, right. Oh, you weren't

00:06:36.540 paying attention. Y'all know you have a podcast. Sometimes when people ask me or they're like,

00:06:40.200 oh, I think I want to start a podcast or whatever. I'm like, I don't know. Not many people can

00:06:43.980 talk for that long uninterrupted. Yeah. Like just like bounce for that long, like 50 minutes

00:06:49.580 straight. And nothing, again, nothing brings me more joy than hearing yourself talk.

00:06:54.720 Yes. Me too. Going back to editing that, I'm like, this is perfect. This is the best content

00:06:59.880 I could have. I know. I watched our episode together on 2D Girls and your guys' episode

00:07:04.620 as well. And I was laughing like I'm not there. We were cracking up. Crying. That was crazy.

00:07:09.800 I was cracking up like it's not us. The story about Jason running away was sending me to a

00:07:14.140 different planet. Like it was crazy. I don't know if I've told that story, but just for a

00:07:18.640 synopsis, like Jason is not a going out girl. Jason's my sister. She doesn't enjoy going out

00:07:25.120 as much as I did, especially when I was in my thought days. I was like, I'm going out

00:07:29.620 when I was a city girl. And just long story short, I took her out on New Year's Eve.

00:07:34.680 And then at 12.01 on the money, she was like, I have to go home immediately. And I was like,

00:07:40.640 okay, we'll just chill because we'll go home in a little. And I turned my back. She was gone

00:07:45.540 for like 10 minutes. And then I find out she's running home physically. Like she cleared

00:07:49.980 like at least four blocks. No, I can't.

00:07:52.020 And then she got tired, laid down and went to sleep. And then was brought back to me by

00:07:55.980 the cops.

00:07:56.520 There you are. Okay.

00:07:58.520 I just put a TikTok in my story the other day of someone was like, it was like a boyfriend

00:08:04.520 and girlfriend and they're both drunk and they're walking home. And he's like, this is how you

00:08:09.020 handle each other's drunk. Like, cause he's not a runner, but she is. And so he lets her sprint in front of him. And then he's like,

00:08:15.540 then I yell, stop. And then she stops at the end of the road and waits for him to catch up to her.

00:08:19.440 That's really sweet.

00:08:20.280 And then when he tells me, he's like, as long as I can see you, you can run. And then I'm going to tell you when to stop.

00:08:24.540 That's their compromise.

00:08:24.880 I wish I was a drunk runner.

00:08:26.540 Yeah, I'm not.

00:08:26.920 I wish I was a runner.

00:08:27.860 That's like free cardio.

00:08:29.120 A sober runner.

00:08:30.680 Yeah.

00:08:31.680 But imagine drunk. You're killing two birds with one stone. You're having fun.

00:08:36.040 Yeah. And you're like invincible, like bulletproof.

00:08:38.580 Yes.

00:08:38.860 When you're running.

00:08:39.280 You're doing hurdle jumps.

00:08:40.440 I'm a drunk, but I start writing poetry.

00:08:43.400 And I'm sobbing.

00:08:44.640 Believe it or not, I yap even more.

00:08:46.900 Yes.

00:08:47.320 Well, that makes sense.

00:08:48.640 I could talk even more.

00:08:49.340 I always have like a pursed lip when I'm like.

00:08:52.360 You're mewing?

00:08:53.200 Yeah.

00:08:54.380 Literally, it's like two drinks in and I'm just side smirking the entire night.

00:08:58.840 Debbie Ryan?

00:08:59.540 Yes.

00:09:00.440 Radio Rebel.

00:09:01.680 I've always been Debbie Ryan's song.

00:09:03.700 People have said Andrew looks like Debbie Ryan in the face.

00:09:05.580 And when you hear that.

00:09:05.940 And does that hurt your feelings?

00:09:07.340 No, it kind of like, it makes my feelings.

00:09:09.540 I feel amazing.

00:09:10.180 It makes you feel awesome.

00:09:12.600 Amazing.

00:09:13.140 Yeah.

00:09:13.500 I mean, she's undeniable talent.

00:09:15.000 That's true.

00:09:15.500 And stunning.

00:09:15.920 That is true.

00:09:16.520 That little clip of her doing that interview where she's like.

00:09:19.120 I sat down with the president of Disney Channel and I said, we're going to make history.

00:09:22.360 And that's what this is.

00:09:24.160 And isn't she talking about Radio Rebel?

00:09:26.560 No, she's directing an episode of Jessie.

00:09:29.060 Oh.

00:09:29.360 To actually.

00:09:31.260 I wish she was talking about Radio Rebel.

00:09:33.240 You didn't remember it, but it's history.

00:09:35.480 So you should learn up.

00:09:37.640 Study up.

00:09:39.020 Clearly, you're unfamiliar.

00:09:40.600 Maybe you should study up a little bit more.

00:09:42.500 On Jessie history.

00:09:43.600 When I drink, I'm not a physical person.

00:09:46.400 No.

00:09:47.300 You know what I do when I'm drunk?

00:09:48.400 I make promises.

00:09:50.240 Like, I tell people I'm going to join them on plans.

00:09:53.240 Like, I'm one of those.

00:09:55.020 Like, I'm like, oh, my God.

00:09:56.580 It's so good to see you.

00:09:57.740 Yeah, we should.

00:09:58.660 We should go on that cruise.

00:10:00.060 We absolutely should.

00:10:01.720 I don't mean that.

00:10:02.580 They follow up the next day.

00:10:03.620 You're like, what do you mean cruise?

00:10:06.040 They're like, can you send me the 5K that I just put down the deposit?

00:10:09.780 You're like, oh.

00:10:10.720 I have to dispute charges in the next morning.

00:10:14.200 Actually.

00:10:14.820 I'm taking you to court, actually.

00:10:16.940 When I was in college, I promised one of my girlfriends.

00:10:21.220 I promised I would go to a rave with her.

00:10:23.520 And I am not a rave girl.

00:10:25.020 Have y'all ever been to a rave?

00:10:26.160 Never in my life.

00:10:27.500 The plur life is not for me personally.

00:10:29.200 No.

00:10:29.440 Yeah, no.

00:10:29.940 Not for me.

00:10:30.540 No disrespect.

00:10:31.080 No disrespect plur.

00:10:33.060 I can't physically handle that.

00:10:34.720 I think my brain is too.

00:10:36.840 And so she literally was like, okay, great.

00:10:39.200 You'll go with me.

00:10:39.660 I'm like, yeah.

00:10:40.640 And the next day she was like, remember you said you would go with me?

00:10:43.280 I was like, I don't remember that at all.

00:10:46.260 I've been advised to not speak on that matter without a lawyer present.

00:10:49.100 I'm going to need to plead the fifth on that one.

00:10:51.020 We're lawyers if you need it.

00:10:53.700 Yeah, period.

00:10:54.440 Love that.

00:10:55.060 I ended up going and it was for an act called Knife Party.

00:10:58.600 Knife Party.

00:10:59.160 Were you sober?

00:11:00.060 Like, yeah.

00:11:01.620 Yeah, I was completely.

00:11:02.560 Sober at Knife Party.

00:11:03.580 Yeah, at Knife Party.

00:11:05.540 That was the name of it.

00:11:05.940 Were there knives?

00:11:06.980 No, not that I saw.

00:11:08.020 Hopefully not.

00:11:08.800 But I ended up going because I promised I would.

00:11:10.880 Well, that's very sweet.

00:11:11.440 The idea of a rave in general would give me a panic attack, but calling in a knife party

00:11:15.320 after I'd be on a high alert the entire time.

00:11:18.680 No, literally, it was, we went so late, like, late when I'm a millionaire's old.

00:11:24.780 Like, it started at, like, 10.30 p.m.

00:11:27.640 So, like, we go, someone's already been on for a couple hours.

00:11:31.100 And then I'm not kidding.

00:11:32.340 I watched, like, four DJs in a row.

00:11:34.700 And then I was like, wow, that was cool.

00:11:36.820 And then she goes, oh, he's not on yet.

00:11:38.180 And I go, who the fuck have I been watching?

00:11:39.880 That's the thing.

00:11:40.520 Why are there four?

00:11:42.540 That's not Knife Party?

00:11:43.780 I've seen a few of them.

00:11:45.380 I know what they're doing here.

00:11:47.120 What will the change be that dramatically at Knife Party?

00:11:49.900 Where it's, like, worth staying through it.

00:11:51.200 Just a different set of headphones?

00:11:52.380 Right.

00:11:52.580 I don't know.

00:11:53.640 They just kept round robining them.

00:11:55.200 Wow.

00:11:55.520 Girl, I was there till 2.

00:11:56.960 No.

00:11:57.420 In the morning.

00:11:59.160 And what time did you get there?

00:12:00.960 10.30.

00:12:01.980 10.30 to 2?

00:12:03.120 Yeah, girl.

00:12:03.640 No.

00:12:04.180 I was like, oh, no.

00:12:04.860 They need to have, like, those little cots for people to, like, sleep a little bit.

00:12:08.040 It's preschool.

00:12:08.460 They have to have, at Coachella, we told y'all this, how we know this.

00:12:12.240 But they have that tent where you can go and work space out.

00:12:15.360 Yes.

00:12:16.000 The isolation tent.

00:12:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:17.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:18.060 The overstimulation tent.

00:12:19.380 Yeah.

00:12:19.660 Where you can go, we know.

00:12:20.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:22.220 We know that tent.

00:12:22.940 We all know why we know what that is.

00:12:24.560 Yes.

00:12:24.840 Where that is.

00:12:25.280 But they do have those.

00:12:26.540 And honestly, they should have them everywhere.

00:12:28.600 They're so nice.

00:12:28.820 I was thinking, I would love one here.

00:12:30.540 Right.

00:12:30.960 Take a step out for a second.

00:12:33.280 I'm like, excuse me, guys.

00:12:35.900 Take it away.

00:12:36.680 Hold that thought really quick.

00:12:38.040 I frequently say, I'm like, sometimes I wish I just had somewhere I could go in and just

00:12:42.020 scream really loud and come right out and go to work.

00:12:44.440 Yeah.

00:12:45.100 Thoughts?

00:12:45.560 I think that's an excellent idea.

00:12:46.800 I think it's amazing.

00:12:47.360 Wait, I used to do this.

00:12:48.700 This is so insane.

00:12:50.140 I actually can't believe I had locked this memory.

00:12:53.680 Okay.

00:12:54.240 I never went to the gym in college, right?

00:12:56.240 Okay.

00:12:56.400 I never went.

00:12:57.100 But they had these racquetball courts that I thought were soundproof.

00:13:01.940 So I would get the racquetball and be like, yeah, I'm going to go upstairs, you guys.

00:13:06.660 And I would hit the fuck out of that ball, screaming on the top of my lungs, getting anything

00:13:11.180 I needed out and walk out like no one heard me.

00:13:14.040 And they heard me.

00:13:15.580 And they heard me.

00:13:16.200 And they heard me.

00:13:17.300 But it is really freeing feel.

00:13:19.040 You are really a serial killer.

00:13:20.000 Really?

00:13:20.500 It's Knife Party.

00:13:21.680 It's Knife Party.

00:13:22.600 Turns out you're Knife Party.

00:13:23.900 Hey, guys.

00:13:24.760 Welcome to the stage.

00:13:25.220 And that is the story.

00:13:26.440 How Knife Party was born.

00:13:27.920 That's why we're here.

00:13:28.960 That's where we met.

00:13:29.860 How did you find out it wasn't soundproof?

00:13:35.320 Someone, one of my friends was like walking by and they were like, we heard someone screaming.

00:13:40.220 And it was me.

00:13:41.920 But yeah, so I learned quick.

00:13:43.100 But it is a beautiful thing to be able to scream out.

00:13:46.520 Yeah.

00:13:47.500 That reminds me.

00:13:48.920 One time my boyfriend and I were like arguing, we weren't like screaming at each other, but

00:13:53.860 we were arguing.

00:13:54.480 And I was like, dude, this is so annoying.

00:13:56.240 Like, I don't have time for this.

00:13:57.500 And I like went back in the house and I was letting in Adam, like my cousin, he's my hair

00:14:02.620 and makeup artist.

00:14:03.160 I was like letting him in.

00:14:04.680 And he was like, dude, I was listening to some guy and he's like fighting with someone

00:14:08.860 on the phone.

00:14:09.780 And I was like, yeah, that's crazy.

00:14:13.100 It was me.

00:14:16.120 That's crazy.

00:14:17.240 Listening to some guy screaming.

00:14:18.840 That's crazy.

00:14:19.580 And it was me.

00:14:20.740 And I wasn't even screaming, but I sounded angry.

00:14:24.860 Yeah.

00:14:25.260 And then he's like, yeah, someone is so mad.

00:14:27.040 And they're yelling at someone on the phone.

00:14:28.180 I was like, what?

00:14:29.500 Who would do that?

00:14:30.280 And did it just stop right now?

00:14:32.300 When I walked inside?

00:14:33.800 Damn.

00:14:34.180 As soon as I come out here to get you, it stops.

00:14:36.320 That's crazy.

00:14:36.760 Oh my God.

00:14:37.620 They must have heard me coming.

00:14:38.540 I hope they're okay.

00:14:40.800 I don't know.

00:14:41.440 Whoever they were talking to is probably being an asshole.

00:14:43.920 Yeah.

00:14:44.140 I don't know.

00:14:45.000 They sounded right to me.

00:14:46.880 Personally.

00:14:47.900 Okay.

00:14:48.460 So y'all said that you met when you were four years old.

00:14:51.320 Yes.

00:14:51.880 And it was just electric immediately.

00:14:54.340 Immediate spirit connection between the two of you.

00:14:56.420 We were in a Hard Rock Hotel pool in Orlando, Florida.

00:14:59.780 Naturally.

00:15:00.400 And we swam up to each other.

00:15:03.100 Our parents then like started chatting because their two little gay boy children are in the

00:15:08.780 pool.

00:15:09.740 They sense the vibes.

00:15:10.620 They were like, they put one and two together.

00:15:12.400 They lived five minutes away from each other on Long Island.

00:15:14.980 That is crazy.

00:15:15.920 So we actually went to the same preschool.

00:15:17.600 We then obviously went through all of our formative years.

00:15:21.260 All of our formative years.

00:15:22.340 And the continuation of those formative years now in our 20s, almost more formative.

00:15:27.620 It was nonstop.

00:15:28.460 Yeah.

00:15:28.800 Every single day.

00:15:29.780 That's why I said Bert and Ernie.

00:15:31.100 Like truly.

00:15:31.820 Literally.

00:15:32.260 We need to do that.

00:15:33.040 And like, we need to do Bert and Ernie drag so badly.

00:15:35.060 You do.

00:15:35.500 You guys are always in drag on your show.

00:15:38.080 Is that just for fun?

00:15:38.860 We're slowly becoming drag queens.

00:15:40.220 It's happening.

00:15:41.720 I'm really excited.

00:15:42.440 Any event that Joe would host like for high school or anything would always be like a

00:15:45.740 costumed event, which made me sick to my stomach.

00:15:48.660 It'd be sick.

00:15:49.140 I wouldn't get a costume until the day before and I'm like freaking the fuck out.

00:15:51.780 It could just be a casual night.

00:15:53.480 I could be like six people are coming over.

00:15:55.040 Everyone dressed like Ina Garden Garden Party.

00:15:57.360 Please.

00:15:58.220 Please.

00:15:58.940 Please.

00:15:59.020 And I'm like.

00:15:59.320 The theme is Grey Gardens.

00:16:00.040 Assignment.

00:16:00.640 Assignment I'm getting a hundred.

00:16:01.780 You know what I'm like showing up.

00:16:03.500 You're stressed out because you want to do a good job.

00:16:05.500 Absolutely.

00:16:06.220 But it still has kind of followed me into our adult life with the podcast.

00:16:09.400 Oh, there has been incidents.

00:16:11.300 Incidents and error.

00:16:12.380 Did you order the costume?

00:16:13.380 I'm like, what do you mean did I order the costume?

00:16:15.580 We're doing Heat Miser and Snow Miser tomorrow.

00:16:18.340 What do you mean?

00:16:19.200 I'm like doing arts and crafts in my room.

00:16:21.900 But it is fun.

00:16:22.600 It's like fun to play.

00:16:23.440 Yeah.

00:16:24.100 Your guys.

00:16:25.080 His costumes are so detailed too on your.

00:16:27.920 Listen, we're trying our best.

00:16:29.640 One of my favorite ones they've done.

00:16:30.900 The Whoville one is one of my favorites.

00:16:32.280 Was it the Christmas movie where it's like fire and ice?

00:16:35.540 Yes.

00:16:35.800 That was the claymation movie.

00:16:36.360 Heat Miser, Snow Miser.

00:16:37.580 Yes.

00:16:39.240 That was a scary one.

00:16:40.720 Like I was looking back at myself.

00:16:42.380 I was like, I look like a possessed Glenn Close.

00:16:45.120 Like it was like so disturbing to see.

00:16:48.440 Serving.

00:16:49.120 Well, yes.

00:16:49.820 If she was serving.

00:16:50.440 Yeah.

00:16:50.780 Which we can't deny Glenn Close's servitude to us.

00:16:55.080 He's closed.

00:16:56.120 But your Heat Miser always really cracks me up when I see it.

00:16:59.020 Because I put a lot of hard work into that.

00:17:01.300 Yeah.

00:17:01.420 It's like one base layer of foundation across the whole phase.

00:17:05.260 And you guys do your own makeup and everything.

00:17:07.180 Yeah.

00:17:07.620 Good job.

00:17:08.060 Yes.

00:17:08.500 We can do it all.

00:17:09.460 Yeah.

00:17:09.960 So you guys have known each other for a long time.

00:17:12.280 Very, very close.

00:17:13.080 Yes.

00:17:13.680 How do you guys not get on each other's nerves?

00:17:16.820 Do you just allow yourself to?

00:17:18.380 Yes.

00:17:18.820 Yeah.

00:17:19.140 I think that's actually.

00:17:19.980 What did we talk?

00:17:21.000 We were talking to somebody recently.

00:17:22.200 Every day.

00:17:22.980 Whenever everyone's always like, how do you guys still like each other?

00:17:25.780 Like you live together and you work together.

00:17:26.640 Especially because you're not related.

00:17:27.700 Like you're just best friends.

00:17:28.560 I think that it's because it feels like we're related.

00:17:31.080 Yeah.

00:17:31.240 Like at this point, we have that sort of.

00:17:32.920 We've had that dynamic forever.

00:17:34.920 Yeah.

00:17:35.480 Totally.

00:17:36.200 Andrew like grew up almost every single day at my house with my family, like going on family

00:17:40.680 vacations.

00:17:41.480 Totally.

00:17:41.700 So that like level of deep, sick intimacy that you only get with a sibling.

00:17:47.140 Codependency.

00:17:47.580 Yes.

00:17:48.620 Anxious attachment.

00:17:49.900 And like there are little things that.

00:17:51.140 There's little things that can irk us.

00:17:52.780 But we like do a good.

00:17:54.100 Well, for a while, we would just like be silent about it because we're both really passive

00:17:57.080 people.

00:17:57.620 So we're like, hmm.

00:18:00.840 Hmm.

00:18:01.320 The sink.

00:18:01.640 Oh, that's a full sink.

00:18:03.280 That's a full sink.

00:18:04.000 Huh.

00:18:05.380 And just walk right by it.

00:18:06.280 Oh, so you're both passive.

00:18:07.540 Yeah.

00:18:08.060 And your roommates.

00:18:08.940 Yes.

00:18:09.480 There you go.

00:18:09.920 I did recently, Andrew reminded me that I one time sent a tutorial on how to put a

00:18:16.740 new roll of toilet paper on the.

00:18:19.660 It's a wiki house.

00:18:21.020 I was like, here, I just want to help you out in case you're confused.

00:18:23.040 Just in case you don't remember.

00:18:24.220 It was a picture of like a roll of toilet paper that had maybe like one piece left.

00:18:30.060 That's the biggest.

00:18:31.060 No, I'm sorry.

00:18:31.720 I'm going to provide the image to you because it was literally.

00:18:35.100 What's your one piece?

00:18:36.060 That's for me.

00:18:36.760 Like it was so many rolls and rolls and rolls just tossed into the trash.

00:18:41.660 Just tossed into the trash.

00:18:42.940 I wouldn't say it was tossing rolls into the trash.

00:18:46.180 But the thing is, it was an exception.

00:18:48.120 Like normally you're wearing that roll to the bone.

00:18:50.320 But for a couple of weeks, I was noticing like a lot of toilet paper being wasted.

00:18:56.440 And it was a new issue.

00:18:57.900 So I just figured rather than ignore it, I would send a graphic with what a full roll.

00:19:04.820 With arrows.

00:19:06.460 This is a full roll.

00:19:08.160 This roll is not full.

00:19:09.880 I'm like, okay.

00:19:11.900 But I think that it helped everyone at the end of the day.

00:19:14.480 But we've gotten a lot better of like having serious communications now that we're like in business together too.

00:19:19.200 It's like important to like.

00:19:20.480 Yeah.

00:19:21.120 Well, also too, like I've talked about this with like Dace and like our friend Caleb Heron, which you all know Caleb.

00:19:26.320 But like he's like, if you don't have friends that you like, you're like, hey, okay, I'm going to need five from you.

00:19:30.980 Yeah.

00:19:31.380 Just for a sec.

00:19:31.980 I need you to give me five because you're pushing it.

00:19:34.500 You're doing too much for me.

00:19:35.500 Like I think those are true friends.

00:19:37.400 Of course.

00:19:37.540 Like when you get annoyed, you allow yourself to get annoyed at each other.

00:19:40.360 And then talk about it with them.

00:19:41.900 It's just going to get crazy.

00:19:43.520 For real.

00:19:44.060 That's so funny too because Dace and is extremely passive and I'm not at all.

00:19:48.260 Yeah.

00:19:48.600 So like I'm very like, hey, I don't, that upset me because of this and this.

00:19:52.840 And Dace will go, it's okay.

00:19:53.680 I don't care.

00:19:54.520 And I'm like, well, do you care?

00:19:56.020 She goes, I don't want to talk about it.

00:19:57.220 And I'm like, we should talk about it though.

00:19:59.040 So that it's like that push and pull thing.

00:20:00.660 Why are you going at me?

00:20:03.580 She'll literally tell me, I can't talk about this with you.

00:20:05.980 And then I'm like, well, we have to talk about it.

00:20:08.500 And then she's like, no, we don't.

00:20:09.880 We don't.

00:20:10.180 And then she'll just leave.

00:20:11.040 She'll just get up and leave.

00:20:11.840 I love that.

00:20:13.640 I respect it.

00:20:15.080 And then we both leave.

00:20:16.440 And then we shut our doors.

00:20:17.280 I'm like, he's so mad at me.

00:20:20.360 And then it's like two hours later.

00:20:21.860 It's like, well, what are you doing for dinner?

00:20:23.860 We come out of our rooms.

00:20:24.820 We're like, hey.

00:20:27.960 I literally have told Dace like, I know when she's mad at me because she doesn't send me anything.

00:20:32.740 Yeah.

00:20:32.980 Like she doesn't send me TikToks, like funny things, like tech, nothing.

00:20:36.660 She really pulls out.

00:20:37.920 She acts like she has no idea who I am.

00:20:39.880 Like, and that's why I know she's mad.

00:20:42.160 And then she wants me to call her and be like, hey.

00:20:44.660 And she's like, hey.

00:20:48.700 Especially because we FaceTime like 30 times a day.

00:20:51.740 Which I love.

00:20:52.560 And we live 30 seconds from each other.

00:20:53.920 So whenever she's not calling me, not texting me, I know she's mad at me.

00:20:56.220 You know something's up.

00:20:57.440 How do y'all know when you're upset?

00:20:59.260 I don't.

00:20:59.900 I think it comes in the silence.

00:21:01.360 It's the silence for sure.

00:21:01.940 Because we are talking 24, like talking 24 seven about nothing, complaining about something

00:21:08.280 at all times to each other.

00:21:09.640 Yeah.

00:21:09.820 And when the communication stream is cut off, even if we're not mad about something, you

00:21:15.640 can tell that like something in our energy has been disrupted where we're like sitting

00:21:20.360 in the car and we're not talking to each other.

00:21:21.780 I'm like, okay, so something's wrong.

00:21:24.260 And since we've been friends for so long, like you, yeah, you feel the energy.

00:21:26.800 It's a physical feeling of being like, okay.

00:21:29.400 Yeah.

00:21:30.000 We're not, we're not doing harmonies.

00:21:31.860 We're too much wanted right now.

00:21:33.440 So something's not right.

00:21:35.000 We were driving the car.

00:21:35.920 It's silent.

00:21:36.480 There's no music playing.

00:21:37.420 And then like one of us will eventually be like, should we put on Beyonce?

00:21:40.580 And then it has to come down.

00:21:41.940 Then you're like, done.

00:21:42.920 We're good.

00:21:43.600 Then we're good.

00:21:44.180 We're good.

00:21:44.660 We're okay now.

00:21:45.500 Yeah.

00:21:45.760 I know.

00:21:46.040 Even when I'm mad at my boyfriend, like I act like he can't tell that I'm mad, but

00:21:49.980 like, again, like I am constantly fucking talking, even if he's not, like his back

00:21:54.480 is turned to me.

00:21:54.880 I'm still talking.

00:21:55.780 Of course.

00:21:56.380 Constantly talking.

00:21:56.980 So if I'm just like, yeah, no, I'm good.

00:21:58.340 Like, he's like, why are you upset?

00:22:00.340 Why would you say that?

00:22:01.220 As if it's not obvious.

00:22:02.780 Exactly.

00:22:03.360 That's me and my boyfriend as well.

00:22:04.480 It's really, really, really bad because when I'm mad at him, I go full day sin.

00:22:09.120 I literally shut down.

00:22:10.320 I'm like, I can't, I can't even speak.

00:22:12.220 Yeah.

00:22:12.740 And he's like, well, you're not speaking.

00:22:14.420 So you're mad.

00:22:14.920 And I'm like, I am not mad.

00:22:17.500 And it's crazy that you're saying I'm mad right now.

00:22:20.840 That's making me mad.

00:22:21.860 Actually, that's like the worst spiral of all.

00:22:25.160 And then like two hours later, I'm like, I want to address.

00:22:28.020 Like the allegations from earlier tonight.

00:22:30.660 The elephant in the room.

00:22:31.360 You said I was mad.

00:22:32.060 You posted a YouTube video.

00:22:33.080 An apology.

00:22:33.940 Yeah.

00:22:34.460 Breaking my silence.

00:22:35.640 Breaking my silence.

00:22:39.680 I know.

00:22:40.080 I feel like it's so, like friendships are so important.

00:22:45.580 But especially like, obviously, y'all are two men.

00:22:49.500 Two gay men.

00:22:50.520 But still two men.

00:22:51.500 You just have to be gay.

00:22:52.580 And.

00:22:53.960 That's weird.

00:22:54.620 Coming out.

00:22:55.140 Coming out.

00:22:55.500 That's going to be the next one.

00:22:56.160 Yes.

00:22:56.820 You guys, I'm gay.

00:22:59.500 I don't know if you can.

00:23:00.420 Mom.

00:23:01.980 Just a bad time to talk about this.

00:23:03.760 Yeah, it does.

00:23:04.860 But it leads into our topic because we're talking about like why straight men are so afraid of

00:23:10.560 having like closeness and relationships.

00:23:12.260 Yes.

00:23:12.420 Do y'all have any straight friends?

00:23:13.840 No.

00:23:14.740 Well, I have straight.

00:23:15.560 Aside from me.

00:23:16.640 No, I have straight.

00:23:17.540 I love a straight woman, obviously.

00:23:19.940 And I have no ill will towards the concept of straight men or whatever.

00:23:24.720 The ideology of straight men.

00:23:25.560 I don't like being around them or in their presence or like.

00:23:30.180 But not.

00:23:31.120 It's just like I literally hate that.

00:23:34.080 I hate it.

00:23:35.120 It's not like mean.

00:23:36.280 It's just like I fucking hate that.

00:23:37.320 It's about me.

00:23:38.740 It's not about.

00:23:39.560 It's not you.

00:23:40.300 It's me.

00:23:40.520 It's really not them.

00:23:41.500 Yeah.

00:23:41.760 Like when one of my friends brings their boyfriends, like except for the ones that I've

00:23:45.280 like obviously vetted for years, like a new boyfriend in the mix.

00:23:48.400 I'm like, I can't go.

00:23:49.380 No.

00:23:49.820 Sorry.

00:23:50.560 You can't.

00:23:51.300 Yeah.

00:23:52.000 It's like I've seen a meme where it's like, why does your straight boyfriend have to come

00:23:56.220 to everything?

00:23:56.640 Like leave him in the crate?

00:23:57.980 Yeah.

00:23:59.140 That's you.

00:23:59.680 Literally.

00:24:00.160 It's like that's your little friend.

00:24:01.500 Yeah.

00:24:02.440 Leave your little friend at home.

00:24:03.800 He doesn't get what we're talking about.

00:24:05.740 He doesn't understand.

00:24:07.200 I feel like you, though, have a better relationship to the heterosexual.

00:24:10.920 I do.

00:24:11.420 I think that like growing up in sports, like I always like how to put myself into it and

00:24:15.740 like totally get used to it, like talk to them and whatever.

00:24:19.260 I think now I can really talk to anybody.

00:24:21.400 But if you make me feel uncomfortable, I don't want to be around you.

00:24:24.660 Yeah.

00:24:25.000 Obviously.

00:24:25.680 Obviously.

00:24:26.480 Yeah.

00:24:26.940 Jason's the same way where she's like too many men.

00:24:29.520 Yeah.

00:24:30.060 She's like whenever there's too many men around me, I get really uncomfortable.

00:24:33.300 Yeah.

00:24:33.700 And it's like I feel like people say that like in like a meme-y way.

00:24:37.560 But like it's a real thing.

00:24:39.480 No, it's a very serious way.

00:24:41.040 It's ruined my whole night.

00:24:43.820 You're not listening to me.

00:24:45.800 It's the worst.

00:24:46.600 I'm spiraling.

00:24:47.700 Yeah.

00:24:48.240 It's just the truth.

00:24:49.200 I'm going to freak out.

00:24:50.520 Yeah.

00:24:50.840 Like you guys are not listening to me.

00:24:53.640 But sometimes it's like it's crazy because most recently I went to like a straight bar.

00:24:58.000 I feel like I'm only really ever going to gay spaces at this point.

00:25:00.400 But I went to a straight bar and I kind of was like, okay, girls, like get it.

00:25:03.960 Like I was kind of, I was living for everybody talking to each other.

00:25:06.600 But the thing is about Brooklyn straight men, it's like, are you straight?

00:25:11.720 I'm like very confused.

00:25:13.540 There's an asterisk next to us.

00:25:15.120 They went to the Harry Styles school of heterosexuality.

00:25:17.640 Yes.

00:25:18.740 Something's different.

00:25:20.000 So the vibe is a little different.

00:25:21.640 Yes.

00:25:21.840 For sure.

00:25:22.260 Different scent on them.

00:25:23.540 Yeah.

00:25:24.000 Even with like my boyfriend, he's so great.

00:25:27.620 Like I had friends come over to my house and like days was over.

00:25:31.720 And then he was like, I'm going to go get lunch with my parents.

00:25:34.520 And I was like, oh, really?

00:25:35.380 You don't want to hang out?

00:25:36.000 And he was like, well, I just think you want girl time.

00:25:37.880 And like, I don't want to like crowd.

00:25:39.360 So I'm going to go out.

00:25:40.460 So he was gone for a few hours.

00:25:42.080 And I was like, you're right.

00:25:43.140 You should make sure you lock the door on the way out.

00:25:44.780 Thanks.

00:25:47.080 And have fun with my friends.

00:25:49.000 That's sweet.

00:25:50.180 Sometimes.

00:25:50.340 Yeah.

00:25:50.580 You need that boundary.

00:25:51.580 Sometimes.

00:25:52.540 Even like he's so great about like, I feel like in settings, especially because he never wants

00:25:57.380 to talk or be the center of attention.

00:25:58.880 So even like all my friends are gay, like literally all of them are gay, except I almost said, except

00:26:02.960 they said, no, no, she's a lesbian.

00:26:04.880 My bad.

00:26:05.460 I forgot.

00:26:06.520 No, I have like one, a couple straight friends, but they're all, they're girls really.

00:26:11.020 But yeah, straight man.

00:26:11.880 I'm all.

00:26:12.460 I'm good.

00:26:13.580 Unless they're related to me or my man.

00:26:15.020 They're never around me.

00:26:16.020 Yeah.

00:26:16.260 Like literally ever.

00:26:18.000 Yeah.

00:26:18.180 That's okay.

00:26:18.540 It's just, I'm not even, I don't even allow myself into spaces that they would be in.

00:26:23.180 Well, like, what do you talk about?

00:26:24.680 I have no, I have no.

00:26:25.760 They don't even talk to each other.

00:26:27.140 Sports.

00:26:27.700 What do you say?

00:26:28.260 But then there are like, they're amazing.

00:26:30.260 They're amazing.

00:26:32.240 About sports.

00:26:33.300 I love them.

00:26:34.000 They're great.

00:26:34.820 I love them.

00:26:35.560 The hot dogs.

00:26:37.320 And then I could, yes, from hot dogs it gets.

00:26:40.180 And then it gets like, what are you doing later?

00:26:42.100 I'm like, that's weird.

00:26:42.760 Yeah, I feel like their energy is just off.

00:26:48.820 Even like in their closest, like in their own friendships, like, you know how they joke

00:26:52.460 sometimes they don't know their friends at all.

00:26:54.320 Like they don't even know their birthdays, their star sign.

00:26:57.400 It's very sad.

00:26:58.540 It is.

00:26:59.420 Like, I mean, it's the prison of masculinity.

00:27:02.980 Oh, truly.

00:27:04.100 That causes like, yeah, it's so wild.

00:27:06.860 So it is nice because like, I think that, again, my, our straight girlfriend's boyfriend's

00:27:11.860 fiance's, husband's, et cetera, like, are like a little bit better.

00:27:16.500 Like, I feel like they have like a, they have friends and they like know how to be adult

00:27:20.520 human beings in the world.

00:27:21.760 Yeah, totally.

00:27:22.260 Which is nice to, like, I love when I see that.

00:27:24.500 I'm like, you have friends.

00:27:26.520 Like you, like, yeah, like you step out of the house.

00:27:28.740 You can look me in the eye.

00:27:30.000 Like you're having a conversation with me.

00:27:31.860 Like, that's wonderful.

00:27:32.700 But it seems like just that's, that's the exception to the rule.

00:27:37.840 And the rule is like deep solitude in cell.

00:27:40.520 Like, no connection.

00:27:42.920 Yeah.

00:27:43.180 Like at all.

00:27:44.140 It's almost like they're friends.

00:27:46.560 Like, I think it was like, I saw it on the office when he's like, we're not friends anymore

00:27:50.280 than people staying in the same hotel are friends.

00:27:52.740 That's how I see male friendships.

00:27:54.520 Like they're just cohabiting.

00:27:56.580 They're not really friends.

00:27:58.520 No.

00:27:58.640 Like, you don't talk ever.

00:28:00.540 Like, see, like my boyfriend, like for one of our friends' birthdays, and he's a straight

00:28:03.880 man, but he's both of our friends.

00:28:05.360 Like, he's not just his.

00:28:07.040 He was like, I think I want to get him a dog for his birthday.

00:28:09.840 And he was like, he's been really needing a dog.

00:28:11.840 He's been telling me how he's not been feeling well mentally.

00:28:14.400 And I think a dog would change that.

00:28:15.540 I was like, that's so sweet.

00:28:17.060 That's really sweet.

00:28:17.820 Yeah.

00:28:18.060 And I was like, connection.

00:28:19.740 Human connection.

00:28:20.880 Love that.

00:28:21.880 But most of the time they're like, I don't know his fucking birthday.

00:28:24.820 And I'm like, that's weird.

00:28:26.440 It is.

00:28:27.000 That's weird.

00:28:27.500 I'm like, you have no friends?

00:28:28.980 No.

00:28:29.320 And you look like that?

00:28:30.740 And they have a lot of things to unpack.

00:28:32.280 Like, you need to get them in therapy.

00:28:34.000 Girl.

00:28:34.820 Like, the dog, sure.

00:28:36.620 But.

00:28:38.440 That's a great point.

00:28:39.640 I'm going to give you the gift of therapy.

00:28:41.700 For fucking real.

00:28:42.980 Yeah.

00:28:43.220 If you don't want to talk to your straight male friends about it, talk to somebody else.

00:28:47.240 Yeah.

00:28:47.580 Because.

00:28:48.400 Yeah.

00:28:50.100 It's a therapy ad.

00:28:52.540 That being said.

00:28:55.120 Well, actually, I forget who I was talking to about this.

00:28:57.280 But like, when I first started dating my boyfriend, like, he has a brother and he's like six or seven years younger than him.

00:29:02.440 And he's straight too.

00:29:03.300 But like, he's a good kid and he's really nice.

00:29:05.620 But, and he's really, really funny and sweet.

00:29:09.060 But I think a good tell for me was like that they weren't those kinds of men.

00:29:13.640 Was that they're very affectionate, even with each other.

00:29:15.980 So like, they're like, I love you.

00:29:17.680 Bye.

00:29:18.080 Like, they say I love you to their mom.

00:29:19.480 They say I love you to each other.

00:29:20.820 And I feel like even just that, I was like, okay, you guys aren't annoying.

00:29:23.540 Yeah.

00:29:23.860 That's a major brain fog.

00:29:25.140 They can't even show it to like family.

00:29:27.100 Of course, they're not going to show it to friends.

00:29:28.720 Yeah.

00:29:28.740 Even like dancing.

00:29:29.740 Like, things like that.

00:29:30.460 Like, you'll be at a wedding or whatever.

00:29:31.680 Yeah.

00:29:32.000 It's like, why are you sitting down?

00:29:34.120 Yeah.

00:29:34.360 Oh.

00:29:36.180 Let's shimmy it out a bit.

00:29:38.100 Yeah.

00:29:38.420 So boring.

00:29:38.980 You're good.

00:29:39.540 Yeah.

00:29:40.360 Take you by the legs and just like noodle you.

00:29:42.520 Yeah.

00:29:44.040 Noodle?

00:29:44.760 Noodle you?

00:29:46.080 Whoa.

00:29:47.420 Never mind.

00:29:47.700 Well, that's a little different.

00:29:48.580 Yeah, that's different.

00:29:49.800 I think a good alcoholic drink too.

00:29:51.920 Like, what kind of drinks they're cool with having.

00:29:54.080 You know, some men are super opposed to having like drinks with a straw or a fruity fun drink.

00:29:58.800 Drinks with a straw?

00:29:59.420 A fruity fun drink they are upset about.

00:30:00.840 Drinks with a straw.

00:30:01.640 Right.

00:30:02.180 I know the fruity fun, but a straw?

00:30:04.160 Yeah, girl.

00:30:04.640 They don't want to sip, Joe.

00:30:05.900 They don't want to sip.

00:30:06.660 They don't want to sip.

00:30:07.120 Men don't.

00:30:07.140 I had no clue.

00:30:08.180 It's the straw.

00:30:08.860 It's because I'm not in these rooms.

00:30:10.780 You don't know how they move.

00:30:11.920 I had drag racing when he sat there.

00:30:12.920 I don't know the straw.

00:30:15.440 Wow.

00:30:15.760 Yeah, like a fruity fun drink too.

00:30:17.720 Like, they're always like, give me a beer.

00:30:19.080 Yeah.

00:30:19.800 Give me an IPA.

00:30:21.140 Yeah.

00:30:21.460 A lager.

00:30:22.440 That's so me.

00:30:23.260 It's so me.

00:30:25.820 That's so me.

00:30:26.660 If I get a beer, it's like suddenly I slip into like I'm the straightest man ever.

00:30:30.600 I'll be like, oh, can I get the double IPA?

00:30:33.560 They're like, yeah.

00:30:36.260 That's what's crazy.

00:30:36.800 I'll take a straw.

00:30:38.320 But I need a straw, please.

00:30:39.800 I think the grip of like toxic masculinity is like, it's still on our necks, you know?

00:30:45.940 Like, and look at us.

00:30:47.280 Totally.

00:30:47.680 You know what I mean?

00:30:48.320 Like, listen to us speak.

00:30:50.040 Like, we've worked through so much of it.

00:30:51.680 But even that, like, there will be times when I'm in like a straight space where I'm like,

00:30:54.420 I need to like get a beer.

00:30:55.740 I can't get my little martini or like I have to like play.

00:30:59.380 My espresso martini.

00:31:00.120 Yeah, I could not.

00:31:01.060 Like, there are certain bartenders that I would not order an espresso martini from because

00:31:04.380 I'm like, oh, that's too gay.

00:31:06.580 He's going to be mean to me about that.

00:31:08.060 Literally.

00:31:08.500 Coming from me.

00:31:09.780 So when I think about these like men who have never worked through their feelings, I'm like,

00:31:13.080 yeah, of course they're going to like never once take one step out of that comfort zone

00:31:17.820 because I am afraid to sometimes.

00:31:19.720 Yeah.

00:31:20.140 And it's such a self-imposed thing too.

00:31:23.320 I know.

00:31:23.500 Like, we do it to ourselves a lot of times, but it's also really hard.

00:31:26.660 It's really hard to like confront it if you've never even like admitted it, which like they

00:31:32.260 won't even admit things like that.

00:31:33.800 Like a drink.

00:31:35.020 I'm like, who gives a fuck, girl?

00:31:36.860 All drinks are gendered.

00:31:39.320 Well, those are for girls.

00:31:40.580 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:41.500 Those are for girls and gays.

00:31:42.980 Yes.

00:31:43.460 Duh.

00:31:44.200 Obviously.

00:31:45.580 Like, have you seen that video on TikTok that people are like tearing him the fuck up,

00:31:49.280 but it's this guy being like, why is everyone pinning their fingernails?

00:31:51.980 He's like, my dad would have kicked me out of the house.

00:31:53.500 I'm like, well, that's sad.

00:31:54.640 Yeah.

00:31:54.820 Like you're exposing your trauma and not hearing what you're saying.

00:31:59.320 Yeah.

00:31:59.420 Yeah.

00:31:59.980 Dyson sent me a stitch of that.

00:32:01.940 And then he's like, why are guys pinning their nails?

00:32:03.840 And the guy was like, because they're gay.

00:32:06.860 Duh.

00:32:08.520 He was gay.

00:32:09.840 He's like, they're gay.

00:32:10.660 Everyone's gay.

00:32:11.440 That's the answer.

00:32:12.280 Is that the one you were looking for?

00:32:14.800 It's honestly so boring.

00:32:16.720 It is.

00:32:17.040 Like that too.

00:32:17.960 It really, really is.

00:32:18.680 I'm like, your interests and hobbies, they're so boring.

00:32:22.280 I feel bad for women all the time because I'm like, my, my, sometimes, no, like for

00:32:27.960 my straight girlfriends, I'm like, it's brutal out there.

00:32:31.740 Like I'm looking at your hinge and I'm like, that's really sick and twisted.

00:32:35.480 Like you don't want to be around that.

00:32:38.880 Literally.

00:32:39.580 It's, it's really bad.

00:32:40.880 The dating apps really remind me of it because like, truly being gay on a dating app, like

00:32:45.500 it's, I mean, men are men, but like, at least you have something to work with.

00:32:49.920 You could be like, oh, Meryl Streep.

00:32:51.580 Like something, like something, like something where you're like, oh, you care about something

00:32:55.580 we can chat, we can banter.

00:32:56.900 And then like my straight friends will show me their hinge profiles.

00:32:59.420 And I'm like, this is the scariest thing I've ever seen.

00:33:03.680 Nothing better than a cold beer.

00:33:06.520 And you're like, what are you going to do?

00:33:10.040 And you know what's, you know what's, you know what's worse about that?

00:33:12.780 It probably took him all day to come up with that.

00:33:15.120 I know.

00:33:15.520 He's like, I have it.

00:33:16.700 Guys.

00:33:17.160 But then when they're too good, sometimes the profiles are very good with the straight

00:33:20.040 men.

00:33:20.280 And then I'm also like, you have to be wary of that because that's manipulation.

00:33:23.120 A liar.

00:33:23.960 A liar.

00:33:25.100 Someone is tailoring that to you.

00:33:28.260 Someone's writing it.

00:33:28.980 They're trying to catch you.

00:33:29.900 Be careful.

00:33:31.120 I know they're, they're wising up a little bit.

00:33:33.100 Yeah.

00:33:33.620 Like, especially with men who are, like, they take half a step outside of that realm of

00:33:40.940 toxic masculinity.

00:33:41.920 So they'll paint their nails or they'll like wear a skirt inside the house and not

00:33:45.820 outside the house.

00:33:46.340 Of course not.

00:33:47.300 But they'll make sure to record it when they wear it inside the house and then post it

00:33:49.880 and be like, guys, you got to be free.

00:33:52.680 Yeah.

00:33:53.120 And I'm always like, are you wearing them outside the house?

00:33:54.920 Right.

00:33:55.340 I'll put it on the day.

00:33:56.160 You're like, wear them on the subway and then get back to me.

00:33:59.080 Yeah.

00:33:59.240 Yeah.

00:33:59.340 Be for real about it.

00:34:00.360 Put your money where your mouth is.

00:34:01.280 Those are the men that I think are far more dangerous because I'm like, you're learning

00:34:04.900 too much because of the internet.

00:34:07.000 And now you're trying to trick women into thinking you're a good person.

00:34:09.640 Yeah.

00:34:10.080 Girl.

00:34:10.600 They're really, they're getting more and more self-aware.

00:34:12.920 Yeah.

00:34:13.580 They're getting too sentient.

00:34:14.860 Yes.

00:34:15.100 We got to, we got to go back to when they didn't have enough.

00:34:18.460 I've said that too about therapizing language.

00:34:20.640 Yes.

00:34:20.920 I'm like straight men getting the gift of

00:34:22.680 therapizing language and never going to therapy was like such a curse.

00:34:26.340 These are my boundaries.

00:34:27.440 Yeah.

00:34:28.420 You shouldn't be allowed to leave the house or wear a bikini.

00:34:31.120 Yeah.

00:34:31.600 That's my boundary.

00:34:33.140 And if you betray that trust.

00:34:34.600 Yeah.

00:34:36.220 Yeah.

00:34:36.580 The Jonah Hill situation.

00:34:38.020 Yeah.

00:34:38.040 No, that was crazy.

00:34:39.100 I know.

00:34:39.440 I made a video about that too.

00:34:40.900 And I was like, boundaries are not something that strip your partner of autonomy.

00:34:45.240 No.

00:34:45.760 But a man who goes to therapy simply to learn how to better manipulate women is far more

00:34:53.040 dangerous to me than like an outright awful person.

00:34:56.140 Yeah.

00:34:56.500 Outright awful dude who doesn't even know his friend's birthday.

00:34:59.460 Rude.

00:35:00.760 Put it in your calendar.

00:35:02.260 Don't even say that.

00:35:03.340 It's coming up.

00:35:04.980 Don't even joke.

00:35:06.040 Like that's not even funny.

00:35:07.000 No, go.

00:35:07.640 Like I almost started crying.

00:35:10.140 I actually got kind of annoyed.

00:35:11.420 We stopped talking to each other for the rest of it.

00:35:15.720 I'm like, can you just direct the questions to me and then to go.

00:35:19.720 Okay.

00:35:20.180 So we're going to look at some TikToks on the subject of like why toxic streamers are so

00:35:24.980 afraid of having closeness or even like showing affection to their male friends.

00:35:30.200 So this one says the caption of this video is normalized male affection between two best

00:35:36.280 mates and shows clips of two friends hugging, cuddling, one rubbing the other one's feet

00:35:42.020 while they're on their phones, et cetera.

00:35:44.860 Okay.

00:35:45.780 Well, there was almost a moan.

00:35:47.080 No, I'm just like, no, I'm just kind of confused, I think.

00:35:50.820 I wish someone was rubbing my feet.

00:35:51.980 You heard a foot rub and you went, hmm.

00:35:54.840 And now you know.

00:35:57.440 There it is.

00:35:58.660 Do you guys rub each other's feet?

00:36:01.180 No.

00:36:01.500 Joe, we can't even, this is the problem.

00:36:04.240 We're like this.

00:36:06.280 So that's, but that's back to that thing.

00:36:08.440 Like we still have that issue.

00:36:10.000 Like, and again, we're like the gayest people we know and like physical affection, even like

00:36:15.740 saying I love you is not something we often ever, ever do.

00:36:18.940 Yeah.

00:36:19.200 There was like a, there was like a week post a shrooms trip where I feel like we got really

00:36:24.440 like when, when straight men do shrooms and discover empathy, we had that moment.

00:36:29.180 We were like, love you.

00:36:30.320 Enjoy your trip.

00:36:30.940 But yeah, but otherwise it's, we've gotten better with that.

00:36:36.320 Yeah, for sure.

00:36:36.660 Totally.

00:36:37.220 But I don't think that like, no, I haven't rubbed your feet.

00:36:39.760 You've offered.

00:36:41.020 I have.

00:36:41.500 I've touched a toe at least.

00:36:44.060 But he was like, what the fuck are you doing?

00:36:46.040 We're on the couch and there's like one singular moment where something touches something.

00:36:50.380 We're both like.

00:36:51.100 I think you're always like, did you catch that?

00:36:54.340 One time me and Jason were on a roller coaster, but it was one that like, that goes up and

00:37:01.060 down.

00:37:02.100 And we were both screaming and laughing because we were like making each other laugh as we're

00:37:06.320 on the roller coaster.

00:37:07.340 And then at one point we like went to grab like the handle at the same time.

00:37:11.940 We grabbed each other's hands and then we both went, ew.

00:37:15.720 And then like, we're like not having fun anymore.

00:37:18.680 And you're like, ew.

00:37:20.100 And then.

00:37:20.440 You had a heart stopper moment.

00:37:22.200 We both literally audibly went, ew.

00:37:26.800 And then we couldn't stop laughing the rest of the time because we were so grossed out

00:37:30.960 that we held hands for a second.

00:37:32.500 It's crazy.

00:37:33.560 Crazy.

00:37:34.240 I hate being touched.

00:37:35.860 Like, I'm not a physical touch person really at all.

00:37:38.600 But Jason loves physical touch.

00:37:40.380 Like, she's super affectionate in that way.

00:37:42.440 So sometimes she'll just come and start hugging me and I'm like, okay.

00:37:45.600 Yeah.

00:37:46.400 Okay.

00:37:47.020 That's enough.

00:37:47.680 Love you though.

00:37:48.200 What is that on your love languages?

00:37:49.780 Is physical touch of a zero?

00:37:51.160 Yeah.

00:37:51.520 Well, my boyfriend, that's okay.

00:37:53.400 I'm cool.

00:37:53.840 It's like him and like my parents.

00:37:55.980 I don't care if my parents like hugging kiss me.

00:37:57.700 Like, that doesn't bother me.

00:37:58.560 But like anybody, I can't do it.

00:38:00.540 Like, there's just something.

00:38:01.380 I'm like, oh, I'm good.

00:38:02.540 Like, if it's like a friend hug, like a consensual friend hug, like we see each other, say hi.

00:38:06.520 That's totally fine.

00:38:07.300 I was just thinking we hugged when we saw you.

00:38:09.120 No, that's fine.

00:38:10.080 And that was spiraling for the rest of the episode.

00:38:11.880 You're thinking the whole time.

00:38:12.900 I'm mad at you this entire time.

00:38:14.380 I've been mad at you this whole time.

00:38:15.900 Ew.

00:38:16.220 You've been thinking ew the entire time.

00:38:18.400 When you touch me, I'm like, ew.

00:38:19.900 I don't care at all in situations like that because I know that's going to happen, so

00:38:24.260 that doesn't bother me.

00:38:25.000 It's more so like unsolicited touch.

00:38:27.240 Like tickling?

00:38:28.440 No.

00:38:29.040 Tickling is evil.

00:38:30.220 Yeah.

00:38:31.020 Get it away from me.

00:38:32.020 I don't need it.

00:38:32.980 I don't find tickling endearing.

00:38:34.620 I don't find it cute.

00:38:36.500 No.

00:38:36.880 Like, honestly, it sends me into a rage, which maybe that says more about me than it does

00:38:41.060 about that person.

00:38:42.140 But I just like.

00:38:43.520 So it's swinging.

00:38:44.380 Yeah.

00:38:45.900 I immediately, I immediately get mad.

00:38:48.580 Yeah.

00:38:48.740 I also feel that way about being picked up.

00:38:50.920 I don't know if y'all have that.

00:38:52.380 Maybe that's a girl thing.

00:38:53.420 I haven't been picked up in years.

00:38:54.260 I actually would love to be picked up.

00:38:57.140 So.

00:38:57.840 Cradled.

00:38:58.320 It sucks, yeah.

00:38:58.760 So that's on you.

00:38:59.760 I'm like, I'm so small.

00:39:02.460 No.

00:39:03.240 Maybe that's a girl thing because I feel like when I brought that up to men, like, they're

00:39:06.840 like, ah.

00:39:07.800 But when I bring it up to women, they're always like, oh, yeah, totally.

00:39:09.960 I just like, there's something like a removal of your complete autonomy.

00:39:14.580 Maybe that's what it is.

00:39:15.460 It's just like.

00:39:16.120 And you know how like.

00:39:16.960 Scooped up and taken away.

00:39:18.000 We're all around the same age.

00:39:18.780 Like, you know, in high school, people kind of went through these phases where they were

00:39:21.700 real touchy.

00:39:23.040 Yeah.

00:39:23.460 And then like, they're like, I don't even know, like men trying to flirt is like picking

00:39:27.560 women up.

00:39:28.140 Yeah.

00:39:28.560 One time, one guy tried to do that to me and I yelled so like severely that it made it

00:39:34.920 so awkward.

00:39:35.760 Like, I was like, get off me.

00:39:36.960 Like, really?

00:39:37.720 And my voice.

00:39:38.360 Just trying to pick you up.

00:39:39.240 Yeah.

00:39:39.500 Like to be silly.

00:39:40.940 And then I made it not silly almost immediately.

00:39:44.620 I killed the vibe.

00:39:46.140 But that's your boundary.

00:39:47.880 That's the actual example.

00:39:49.660 I shot the vibe in the face.

00:39:51.240 Weird.

00:39:51.460 Like, touch in high school did get weird.

00:39:53.880 People were like.

00:39:54.380 It's weird, huh?

00:39:54.780 Did you ever do the.

00:39:56.040 Yeah.

00:39:56.660 To see how long you can.

00:39:57.820 Or like, people were telling me like, that's what sex feels like.

00:40:00.320 I'm like, what do you mean though?

00:40:01.920 I'm like.

00:40:02.700 That?

00:40:03.380 Like an orgasm or something?

00:40:04.760 Is that what it was?

00:40:05.620 I don't know.

00:40:06.380 I don't know.

00:40:06.780 And then the, are you nervous?

00:40:08.400 The, are you nervous?

00:40:09.560 Are you nervous?

00:40:10.400 Have you.

00:40:11.000 Oh yeah.

00:40:11.420 As they're moving up.

00:40:12.200 And I'm like, that's fucked up.

00:40:13.500 Just like.

00:40:13.940 I'm like, I'm nervous.

00:40:15.040 Like, show me your nails.

00:40:16.460 Yeah.

00:40:16.660 Show me your nails.

00:40:17.320 Show me your nails.

00:40:18.000 Show me your nails.

00:40:18.280 Yeah.

00:40:18.380 And I'm like.

00:40:18.820 And then they're like.

00:40:19.420 All of them.

00:40:20.180 They're like.

00:40:20.780 They're like gay.

00:40:21.320 Gay.

00:40:22.040 So vividly.

00:40:23.040 Me and Andrew were in fifth grade.

00:40:24.380 We were right in like our school's like entryway.

00:40:27.600 And a boy asked both of us to show him our nails.

00:40:31.340 And I had our, I knew the hack already.

00:40:34.180 Oh God.

00:40:34.560 Yeah.

00:40:34.660 I had to leave Andrew out to dry.

00:40:36.760 I couldn't possibly.

00:40:37.700 Sorry.

00:40:38.120 In this moment communicate.

00:40:39.160 Don't do it.

00:40:39.780 Then you go gay.

00:40:40.660 And we both went like this.

00:40:41.900 I went like this.

00:40:42.740 And then Andrew went.

00:40:45.160 And I was like, it's over for you.

00:40:47.560 That's a wrap for you.

00:40:49.620 It was just such a.

00:40:52.220 You were fully like.

00:40:53.180 Got a man of your right.

00:40:54.160 Ready to go.

00:40:55.780 Ten and chakrilla.

00:40:56.860 One of my favorite clips of your guys' podcast is when you were saying.

00:41:00.640 I don't think it was something that people knew.

00:41:03.220 You wasn't visible.

00:41:04.360 And then Joe was like.

00:41:05.860 You don't think people knew.

00:41:08.580 And it was like a compilation of 25 pictures.

00:41:11.880 That wouldn't end.

00:41:12.820 That would be like.

00:41:14.720 In drag.

00:41:15.700 Evil genius day in the editing room for me.

00:41:18.260 Yeah.

00:41:18.420 I was like.

00:41:19.100 What if I just did something really nasty.

00:41:21.980 You don't think people knew.

00:41:23.240 And it worked.

00:41:24.400 No.

00:41:24.700 I didn't think people knew.

00:41:25.540 You're like.

00:41:25.900 I think people knew.

00:41:27.760 But.

00:41:27.840 It was invisible.

00:41:29.160 It was invisible.

00:41:30.440 No.

00:41:30.700 It was.

00:41:31.060 It was very visible.

00:41:32.180 It was very obvious.

00:41:33.220 Yeah.

00:41:33.940 From that moment on.

00:41:35.080 From fifth grade.

00:41:35.600 From middle zone.

00:41:36.260 If only I came out in fifth grade.

00:41:38.200 I don't know.

00:41:38.680 Who would I be?

00:41:41.040 Matthew McConaughey.

00:41:42.260 Frankie Grande.

00:41:43.120 Yeah.

00:41:43.680 Matthew McConaughey.

00:41:45.400 Matthew McConaughey.

00:41:45.960 You're just super straight.

00:41:47.040 Like super straight.

00:41:49.420 What if that's how you turned.

00:41:50.540 Who you turned out to.

00:41:51.300 You said Frankie Grande.

00:41:53.720 In a complimentary way.

00:41:55.580 You know.

00:41:55.900 He's having a great time.

00:41:56.980 Yeah.

00:41:57.060 You know what's funny.

00:41:57.820 Is I.

00:41:58.780 I don't think I've ever mentioned this.

00:42:00.560 But like.

00:42:01.320 I learned how to look up.

00:42:02.920 Getty pictures of myself.

00:42:04.280 Because I was.

00:42:05.940 Listening to Frankie Grande.

00:42:07.780 Explain how to do it.

00:42:08.900 To somebody else.

00:42:09.880 At an event once.

00:42:11.080 Because we went.

00:42:11.800 Saw the movie Ambulance.

00:42:13.340 Love.

00:42:13.580 Don't know if anyone's familiar.

00:42:15.140 And I.

00:42:15.680 We sat next to him.

00:42:16.580 Like he was on the other side of my boyfriend.

00:42:18.080 And I heard him explaining to a girl.

00:42:20.680 I think she was a housewife of some kind.

00:42:22.620 And she.

00:42:22.940 He was.

00:42:23.260 She's like.

00:42:23.820 How did you find your Gettys already?

00:42:25.040 He's like.

00:42:25.300 Oh.

00:42:25.440 You just go on here.

00:42:26.200 And he was like explaining it to her.

00:42:27.580 And I was just eavesdropping.

00:42:29.020 And that's how I found out.

00:42:30.300 Take notes.

00:42:31.420 Yeah.

00:42:31.620 There's a lot of insight.

00:42:32.500 The Frankie Grande master class.

00:42:34.040 Yeah.

00:42:34.860 I signed up for the master class.

00:42:37.440 And literally.

00:42:38.260 I've taught other creators how to find their Gettys.

00:42:40.320 Wow.

00:42:40.920 All because of Frankie Grande.

00:42:42.000 Thanks Frankie.

00:42:42.400 Give him the credit.

00:42:42.820 That's beautiful.

00:42:43.360 Oh my gosh.

00:42:43.720 Frankie.

00:42:44.300 The Gettys expert.

00:42:45.040 The interconnectedness of this.

00:42:48.040 Okay.

00:42:48.420 I'm going to read some of the comments on this.

00:42:49.780 Yes.

00:42:49.900 So this first one says.

00:42:51.580 It should be normalized.

00:42:52.840 But it shouldn't be publicized.

00:42:55.020 Loving on your bro.

00:42:56.140 Should be normalized.

00:42:57.260 Shouldn't be publicized.

00:42:57.900 Not publicized.

00:42:58.820 Because then gay.

00:42:59.420 I almost feel like.

00:43:00.040 It's gayer to do it behind closed doors.

00:43:02.660 Yeah.

00:43:03.300 In the privacy of your own home.

00:43:04.580 It's normal to rub your feet.

00:43:06.480 But I won't do it if someone else is watching.

00:43:09.380 But I will do it behind closed doors.

00:43:10.840 Yeah.

00:43:11.540 Yeah.

00:43:12.100 You're so real for that.

00:43:12.920 It's much gayer to do that in private.

00:43:15.200 At least they're free about it.

00:43:16.600 They're like.

00:43:16.840 Yeah.

00:43:17.020 We're straight bros.

00:43:18.720 We're at the movies.

00:43:19.380 I'm rubbing your feet.

00:43:21.180 Done.

00:43:21.380 That is.

00:43:22.400 It's so funny.

00:43:24.300 Like it's a lot gayer to do it in private.

00:43:27.000 Like maybe a little more.

00:43:28.320 Who knows?

00:43:28.860 Let's see where the wind takes us.

00:43:30.860 This next one says.

00:43:31.820 I mean hugging is okay.

00:43:33.080 But this is kind of sus.

00:43:35.120 LMAO.

00:43:36.080 Well.

00:43:36.720 Well.

00:43:37.340 You're like.

00:43:37.760 I didn't want to say it was.

00:43:39.160 Yeah.

00:43:40.160 I kind of.

00:43:41.000 I almost don't disagree.

00:43:41.960 I kind of agree with that one.

00:43:43.520 Hugging is fine.

00:43:44.440 I feel like.

00:43:45.300 Once you get to cuddle.

00:43:47.260 Yeah.

00:43:47.520 That's kind of.

00:43:48.200 I just feel.

00:43:48.960 I just would never cuddle with anyone besides my boyfriend.

00:43:52.160 Same.

00:43:52.380 So I just feel like.

00:43:53.140 I feel like if we were cuddling on the couch.

00:43:55.400 It would be weird.

00:43:56.200 I'd be like.

00:43:56.540 What are we?

00:43:57.920 What's happening here?

00:43:59.240 What are we?

00:43:59.900 Like what's going on?

00:44:00.680 Who are we?

00:44:01.020 Yeah.

00:44:01.280 But maybe I will say that I've had an experience before with a straight man in college though.

00:44:08.520 I wasn't out yet.

00:44:09.560 Okay.

00:44:10.160 But he was like my best.

00:44:11.260 So it was two straight bros.

00:44:11.820 It was two straight bros.

00:44:13.160 I was wearing flat-run hats.

00:44:14.620 Two IPAs and the energy between you.

00:44:16.060 And I was like.

00:44:16.700 What's up?

00:44:17.400 But we were two straight bros and he was my best friend and I was definitely in love with

00:44:24.520 him.

00:44:24.780 Like that's like how I was processing.

00:44:26.320 In hindsight?

00:44:27.100 Or did you know at the time?

00:44:28.660 I didn't necessarily know it at the time until it was like.

00:44:31.920 It like.

00:44:32.200 It got to a point.

00:44:32.940 Got to a point where I was like I actually need to cut you out of my life because it's

00:44:35.300 getting crazy.

00:44:36.000 Yeah.

00:44:36.200 But like he would be like yeah let's cuddle.

00:44:38.300 Let's do these things.

00:44:39.060 And I would be like.

00:44:39.760 Girl.

00:44:39.920 We would be like in.

00:44:40.860 We'd be like on the couch like next to each other.

00:44:43.240 And I'm like.

00:44:43.720 Just two straight men.

00:44:45.700 Two straight men.

00:44:46.520 Just cuddling on the couch.

00:44:47.840 Listen.

00:44:48.200 What was the cuddling like?

00:44:50.140 I'm like oh so we were spooning.

00:44:51.420 No.

00:44:51.780 It was just like we were like next to each other on the couch.

00:44:54.480 Or it would be like a bed.

00:44:55.940 You would share a bed?

00:44:57.100 No we wouldn't sleep on the same bed.

00:44:58.360 We would like sit on the bed and watch something.

00:45:00.460 But like we were definitely very close.

00:45:01.920 But he would say let's cuddle.

00:45:04.080 That would ruin my life.

00:45:05.220 Yeah.

00:45:05.860 It would ruin my life.

00:45:06.920 It would mentally destroy me for the rest of my life.

00:45:09.140 Is that what was happening to you?

00:45:10.780 It was happening.

00:45:12.120 No it ruined.

00:45:13.140 Because then it would also be like he was very like you're going out tonight.

00:45:16.300 Why are you going out tonight?

00:45:17.260 Girl.

00:45:17.520 I think he loved you too.

00:45:18.800 Yeah.

00:45:19.060 I know.

00:45:19.560 But this is what I'm saying about this video is like who is to say.

00:45:22.660 It could be those two straight bros that are massaging each other's feet.

00:45:24.980 But one of them might like it more than the other.

00:45:27.500 Yeah.

00:45:28.520 That was me.

00:45:29.280 What if it was footage of you?

00:45:33.020 It's literally me.

00:45:34.080 And I was watching.

00:45:35.940 Right there.

00:45:36.720 Right there.

00:45:37.440 Well actually that's a great time to reference the video.

00:45:40.080 It's just camera footage of you.

00:45:42.080 It's me in college.

00:45:43.140 Dude that sounds awful though.

00:45:44.380 Yeah.

00:45:44.660 But I feel like that's a gay experience a lot of people have.

00:45:48.200 It's like.

00:45:48.480 It is.

00:45:49.220 It's like being strung along by someone who is straight.

00:45:52.060 Yeah.

00:45:52.400 But not.

00:45:52.880 Like an intense homoerotic weird strange friendship.

00:45:56.800 Dude.

00:45:57.260 Straight men do like the literal gayest things a lot.

00:46:01.840 And I'm like.

00:46:03.480 That's strange.

00:46:04.620 Yeah.

00:46:04.780 Like that's not horsing around.

00:46:06.900 That's a little something else.

00:46:07.840 Yes.

00:46:08.320 Because it would be fine if they weren't like so like.

00:46:11.880 No I'm not.

00:46:12.420 I'm not gay.

00:46:12.960 Yeah.

00:46:13.420 Exactly.

00:46:14.200 It's fine.

00:46:14.300 Like whatever.

00:46:15.320 Okay.

00:46:15.860 You're all.

00:46:16.220 Kiss.

00:46:17.920 It's okay.

00:46:18.940 It's okay.

00:46:19.620 Literally I'm not going to.

00:46:20.620 It's fine.

00:46:21.040 You're like you're literally acting super gay.

00:46:24.320 Yeah.

00:46:24.760 Yeah.

00:46:24.820 But you're so homophobic.

00:46:26.300 Which is okay.

00:46:26.720 I don't understand.

00:46:28.220 I don't understand.

00:46:29.600 Like we've joked about this because my brother is straight but he played football.

00:46:35.880 And my brother obviously is raised by mostly women.

00:46:38.420 And so like my brother's very empathetic and very sensitive.

00:46:40.940 And like he's not an awful like toxic masculinity man.

00:46:44.280 But like when he was playing football like he would tell us like he would get really uncomfortable

00:46:48.120 in the locker rooms because we're like why?

00:46:50.620 Because of like nudity and stuff.

00:46:51.660 And he's like no it's not that.

00:46:52.980 It's like the way they like joke around and stuff.

00:46:56.560 And he's talking about like the humping.

00:46:58.180 Like men just be pretending to have sex with each other all this time.

00:47:02.900 Smacking asses.

00:47:03.880 I would never understand that on a field.

00:47:06.460 A smack of an ass all the time.

00:47:08.780 And sometimes they really get in there girl.

00:47:11.060 And I'm kind of like you were kind of like oh my god.

00:47:13.560 I was like well what about me you guys?

00:47:16.220 I also love sports.

00:47:18.400 I was like what's up?

00:47:20.620 You're smacking everybody else's ass butt bide.

00:47:24.600 That's homophobic.

00:47:25.760 Literally.

00:47:26.500 You're leaving me out on purpose.

00:47:27.980 Oh my god.

00:47:29.720 Yeah he would say like they would like line up and like hump each other.

00:47:33.680 Like pretend to hump each other.

00:47:35.160 And like they're naked.

00:47:36.920 They're naked.

00:47:37.960 And then he was like it's just so like I don't understand.

00:47:43.080 Like I was like me either.

00:47:45.500 And we're like talking about it.

00:47:47.340 And then my boyfriend's played football for a long time.

00:47:50.060 Like he played for a very long time.

00:47:51.040 My dad did too.

00:47:51.860 And my dad played in the league.

00:47:53.520 And so my dad goes oh yeah they do that.

00:47:55.200 That's just something they do.

00:47:56.460 And my boyfriend goes yeah.

00:47:57.560 And I'm like what?

00:47:59.260 And then my dad goes you know like you know guys.

00:48:01.740 You know like in the locker room and stuff.

00:48:03.140 I go girls don't do that.

00:48:04.620 I can't.

00:48:05.160 You're on your own in this journey.

00:48:06.780 I don't I can't take that walk with you.

00:48:08.320 Because I haven't experienced that.

00:48:10.080 And he goes all the way to the league.

00:48:12.060 They'll do shit like that.

00:48:13.160 It goes all the way up to the top.

00:48:16.100 He said it goes all the way to the top.

00:48:19.780 And the bottom.

00:48:20.860 The league.

00:48:21.360 To the league.

00:48:22.320 Girl they're just dry humping each other.

00:48:23.800 Like to be funny.

00:48:26.460 They need to get that emotion out in another way.

00:48:28.680 I was like at what point are you kind of like I really love doing this.

00:48:33.980 I don't think it should stop being funny.

00:48:37.040 It's a dangerous game to play.

00:48:39.020 Showing up to like practice and you're like I'm humping.

00:48:43.140 My favorite part of practice is getting to hump in the locker room.

00:48:46.720 Wait you guys.

00:48:47.100 See you in the locker room for the hump.

00:48:51.420 That's my favorite part of practice.

00:48:54.240 How come in none of those interviews in any sports documentary they don't talk about the humping.

00:48:57.760 What's going on there?

00:48:58.440 Yeah.

00:48:58.800 Let's talk about it.

00:48:59.660 Let's address it.

00:49:00.780 We need to be sports interviewers.

00:49:02.320 So tell us like a time when you were proudest.

00:49:06.400 When you were humping.

00:49:07.960 So the word humping.

00:49:09.820 What does that mean?

00:49:11.860 You just won the Stanley Cup.

00:49:13.800 Now let's talk about humping.

00:49:16.440 What's the best time you've ever humped?

00:49:18.700 What's the most memorable hump you've ever had in the locker room?

00:49:23.080 Yeah.

00:49:23.980 Who's your best friend that you have here?

00:49:25.880 You're like if you had to pick top three people you've humped in order, go.

00:49:33.120 How do you feel about massaging feet?

00:49:35.740 And on the same subject.

00:49:37.120 Yeah.

00:49:37.920 I just find that so fucking strange.

00:49:41.100 And I've told this story on the pod before.

00:49:43.780 But like when me and Jason were working corporate jobs and like just had the one of the hardest jobs in the world.

00:49:49.740 We were working this booth and we were handing out like giveaway, like little things to get people to come to the booth.

00:49:55.360 Yeah.

00:49:55.640 And one of them was those like stress balls.

00:49:57.780 But it was in the shape of a orange like traffic cone because we worked for like transportation.

00:50:02.560 Yeah.

00:50:02.720 And these kids come up and they're probably like 12, 13, right?

00:50:08.360 Like they're young teen kids.

00:50:10.040 And they were like, oh, can we have some of the like little squishy cones?

00:50:13.240 And I was like, yeah.

00:50:14.460 So I gave one to one of them and he took it.

00:50:16.840 He's like, thanks.

00:50:17.480 And then he turns around and he goes, and shoves it up the butt three times to the kid next to him.

00:50:23.900 And they both start laughing and they run away.

00:50:26.260 And that was Andrew.

00:50:28.220 You and your straight friend.

00:50:29.800 Always me.

00:50:30.480 I'm like, you're my straight friend.

00:50:31.760 Yeah.

00:50:33.120 I'm like, that wasn't weird.

00:50:35.620 He ran away.

00:50:37.600 And I remember being like.

00:50:38.500 You were just standing there combless.

00:50:40.480 I'm like, I have my squishy.

00:50:42.280 I'm like, I'm in a blue polo.

00:50:43.780 Like I'm not equipped to handle that.

00:50:46.160 To handle what I just saw.

00:50:47.060 Whatever that was.

00:50:48.320 Can't do that.

00:50:49.160 There's so much pent up like rage, aggression and sexuality going on in the male community.

00:50:55.200 And what the fuck?

00:50:55.460 Yeah.

00:50:56.140 You bitches are weird.

00:50:57.720 And then they, he came, they came back like probably an hour later.

00:51:01.100 And he was like, Hey, can I have another cone?

00:51:03.880 And I go, I saw, I was like, I literally, the other one's already up there.

00:51:08.740 So he's like, I actually kind of lost the first one.

00:51:11.760 Got a little too excited with the last one.

00:51:13.980 And he came back and he was like, can I have another one?

00:51:16.100 I go, no.

00:51:17.280 Cause I saw what you did with that last one and I'm not giving you any more.

00:51:20.060 And then he goes, I'm going to tell my mom.

00:51:21.600 I go, okay, go ahead.

00:51:22.440 Bring her over here and I'll tell her what you did with that last one.

00:51:25.040 And then we can talk about it.

00:51:26.440 And then he, and then he was like, and he just walked away.

00:51:28.980 And I was like, yeah, I can't do this job.

00:51:33.060 Hey, I'm not going to be able to do this.

00:51:34.520 What's the worst job you guys have ever had or the hardest, whether it's worst, hardest, weirdest is one that I signed an NDA for, but it was just in social media.

00:51:45.680 It's a really stressful social media job.

00:51:47.780 I can only imagine.

00:51:48.960 I don't know what my, Oh, my worst job.

00:51:50.740 I was an intern at the New York stock exchange.

00:51:52.960 I was working on the training floor and they were like, Hey, Andrew, we're actually like very hungry.

00:52:07.820 And I'm like, Oh yeah, I got it.

00:52:09.660 They would make me go pick up about eight pies of pizza to bring back.

00:52:13.920 I was getting coffee like, like this, like balancing them coming into the, wearing a suit, sweating.

00:52:19.860 Like a 2000s rom-com.

00:52:21.080 No, actually, no, it was my word.

00:52:22.680 It was our generation, Santa Hathaway.

00:52:25.800 It's like, I just like keep telling me.

00:52:27.200 Right.

00:52:27.760 I'm like, yeah.

00:52:28.580 Andy.

00:52:29.660 Andy.

00:52:30.160 You were Andy.

00:52:31.320 But we did work maintenance.

00:52:33.620 We did clean toilets together for a little bit, but honestly, that was a fun job.

00:52:36.820 We were picking weeds.

00:52:37.280 Because you guys had each other.

00:52:38.260 Yeah.

00:52:38.540 We were singing.

00:52:39.300 We were harmonizing.

00:52:40.180 But it got to a point where it was like, when you weren't working with me.

00:52:43.780 Misery.

00:52:44.160 It was misery because there was this older man, Jerry.

00:52:47.660 He would pick the weeds and I'd be like, Jerry.

00:52:49.940 You did something nasty to Jerry.

00:52:51.260 I got to go to the bathroom.

00:52:52.680 And I would drive the cart to the bathroom, but I wouldn't go to the bathroom.

00:52:56.860 I would sit in the cafeteria and I would eat cookies and watch Jerry through the window.

00:52:59.940 Jerry's about 80 years old.

00:53:02.100 He's about 80 years old picking weeds on his hands and knees.

00:53:06.000 I'm sorry.

00:53:06.400 It got so miserable when I had to watch Jerry do the job alone.

00:53:10.700 There was something about those weeds I couldn't do that.

00:53:13.500 I couldn't just do it.

00:53:13.960 I simply can't.

00:53:14.740 That was a strange job, though, because it was like every day it was something different.

00:53:18.520 It was like being on The Simple Life, but we were 17.

00:53:21.060 A new task.

00:53:21.700 Because they'd be like, today you're going to clean out this dumpster that we forgot exists

00:53:26.040 in the back of the facility.

00:53:27.500 And I'd be surrounded by bees and dime bags.

00:53:31.220 So many dime bags everywhere.

00:53:33.260 And I was 17 and obsessed with Miley Cyrus and her bangers era.

00:53:37.360 So I would pick them all up and take pictures with them.

00:53:40.340 He was like, I'm so cool.

00:53:41.540 I'm like, oh my God.

00:53:42.160 This had drugs in it at one point.

00:53:43.720 It was just so sick.

00:53:44.880 Tagging Miley Cyrus.

00:53:46.000 Literally.

00:53:46.240 That has nothing to do with her.

00:53:47.280 Nothing.

00:53:48.060 She sees it.

00:53:48.540 She's like, huh?

00:53:49.980 Fuck.

00:53:50.400 She blocks you.

00:53:51.740 Literally.

00:53:52.780 What a random job.

00:53:53.900 But you guys worked it together.

00:53:54.860 We worked it together.

00:53:55.860 I love.

00:53:56.400 And we would just go to a tropical smoothie cafe for half the day sometimes.

00:54:00.300 We'd get little things of macaroons and just pop them in our mouth.

00:54:03.600 There was a skate park there.

00:54:05.740 We were cleaning the skate park at times.

00:54:08.100 Remember that?

00:54:08.640 I wish that was all documented.

00:54:09.820 I mean, it kind of was.

00:54:11.160 Charlie and the chocolate factory.

00:54:12.720 Basically, there was six orphans that were brought in at one point.

00:54:16.880 Little orange men.

00:54:18.120 A chocolate river.

00:54:19.360 It was very strange.

00:54:21.300 That's so funny.

00:54:22.260 Yeah, me and Jason worked a job together, too.

00:54:24.000 But it was like an office job.

00:54:25.260 And our cubicles were like right next to each other.

00:54:27.420 That's kind of cute.

00:54:28.220 Yeah.

00:54:28.540 And I just like, I don't know.

00:54:30.300 I was so unserious in that job.

00:54:32.220 I was like, I can't do this forever.

00:54:35.060 But then Jason actually quit before me.

00:54:38.200 And I remember when she quit, I was like, wait, why?

00:54:41.340 I didn't even do it yet.

00:54:43.000 Because she gave her two weeks and I had one.

00:54:44.960 Oh, God.

00:54:45.520 And she was like, I just can't do this anymore, dude.

00:54:47.500 And I was like, you're going to leave me there by myself?

00:54:50.040 How much longer did you stay?

00:54:51.500 I'm not even kidding.

00:54:52.320 A week.

00:54:52.880 Okay.

00:54:53.160 And then I was like, oh, bye.

00:54:54.720 By the way.

00:54:55.240 Oh, bye.

00:54:56.020 Because now you know you're like, I'm getting out of here.

00:54:57.180 Yeah.

00:54:57.580 Well, I can't believe I thought I was going to work there without her.

00:55:00.060 Yeah.

00:55:00.260 I can't imagine.

00:55:01.320 Without no fucking way.

00:55:02.360 You won't catch me there.

00:55:03.780 Not even a little bit.

00:55:04.600 It was so silly, too, because the job we had was literally like telling people bad news

00:55:09.380 about traffic.

00:55:10.560 So naturally, like they're going to fucking hate us like on site.

00:55:14.540 And so the two of us doing that together.

00:55:17.340 I can imagine.

00:55:19.120 We would literally canvas neighbors.

00:55:21.740 Like we would walk in the hot fucking sun and like go to people's houses and be like,

00:55:25.240 hey, they're going to be power drilling behind your house for the next eight to ten years.

00:55:29.800 Hope you're cool with that.

00:55:31.420 Do you want to get emails about it?

00:55:33.300 And they'd be like, fuck you.

00:55:35.820 Like the amount of times I got cussed out on someone's porch and I'm in my Nike Roaches

00:55:40.160 from 2009.

00:55:41.660 Like, girl, I don't.

00:55:42.800 That's different.

00:55:43.860 Like for it to be in person.

00:55:45.680 Yeah.

00:55:46.400 Over the phone.

00:55:47.380 I actually cannot imagine.

00:55:49.560 Because I worked a sales job and people would curse me out all the time.

00:55:52.320 They are so mean.

00:55:53.840 Like.

00:55:53.960 See them.

00:55:54.560 Yeah.

00:55:55.760 All right.

00:55:57.800 Fuck that.

00:55:58.360 Jason sometimes would have to answer phone calls.

00:56:02.320 And the way that old people will call to ask about construction is fucking insane.

00:56:07.920 I'm like, you're 90.

00:56:09.180 Like, worry about other things, girl.

00:56:10.720 Like, get your affairs in order.

00:56:11.920 Like, now is not the time.

00:56:13.440 Like, literally one time Jason was like, I need to play this voicemail that I had to talk

00:56:16.980 to this guy for so long today.

00:56:18.660 And he like called and he wanted to know what kind of gravel was being used on the 405

00:56:25.060 because it was important to him.

00:56:27.120 And Jason had to, like, look up.

00:56:29.940 Like, she had to call an engineer and, like, talk to him and then call the guy back.

00:56:33.380 And then he had more questions.

00:56:34.600 But she got the answer.

00:56:36.420 Of course.

00:56:37.280 And that's a scientist.

00:56:38.260 She was like, can you fucking believe this?

00:56:39.480 That's a woman in STEM.

00:56:40.500 Yeah.

00:56:40.700 That's a woman in STEM.

00:56:42.600 She was like, I can't do this anymore.

00:56:45.340 I remember one time we were walking around the neighborhoods for hours.

00:56:48.200 It was so hot.

00:56:48.900 And then, like, we went back.

00:56:49.980 We ate lunch.

00:56:50.640 And we were in the break room.

00:56:51.580 We were eating lunch together.

00:56:52.340 And we were laughing, like, making each other laugh.

00:56:55.080 And I told her, I was like, dude, I need you to do me a favor.

00:56:57.680 And she was like, what?

00:56:58.520 I was like, I need you to throw up so we can go home.

00:57:02.200 No.

00:57:02.960 You guys are just like us.

00:57:04.860 I was doing this lately.

00:57:06.860 Because at that point, Dacen had mastered the art of being able to, like, make herself throw up.

00:57:12.120 And so I was like, dude, go in that bathroom.

00:57:15.840 Go throw up.

00:57:17.360 Come back.

00:57:18.220 And I'm going to be like, I have to take her home because we carpooled.

00:57:21.320 I was like, got to take her home.

00:57:23.420 That's so good.

00:57:25.180 We were laughing.

00:57:26.040 And she goes, I'm not going to do that.

00:57:27.480 I was like, come on.

00:57:29.140 Don't you want to go home?

00:57:29.900 Did she do it?

00:57:30.900 No.

00:57:31.540 I was like, I would have committed to the bit.

00:57:33.820 I was like, I'm going to throw up right here.

00:57:35.660 And the only reason she didn't was because we had, like, maybe two hours left.

00:57:39.900 Okay.

00:57:40.360 And then she was like, dude, we can make it two more hours.

00:57:42.080 You can save that for a worse day.

00:57:43.460 Yeah, she was like, let's use that another time.

00:57:45.800 There's nothing more mortified than actually throwing up and, like, walking in there and being like, hey, guys.

00:57:50.760 I threw up.

00:57:51.640 I just threw up.

00:57:52.740 So I'm going to go.

00:57:53.880 They're like, all right, man, whatever you need.

00:57:57.000 I'm like, all right.

00:57:58.260 They're just looking at you.

00:57:58.880 And Joe doesn't drive, so he has to come with me.

00:58:00.720 I have to come with me.

00:58:03.540 You're like, you guys are just like.

00:58:05.660 It's crazy.

00:58:06.160 It's crazy.

00:58:07.100 I feel like we pulled that before.

00:58:08.440 Yeah, for sure.

00:58:09.680 Well, you're always throwing up.

00:58:12.780 As I was saying it, I tried to stop it.

00:58:15.000 I tried to stop saying it.

00:58:16.340 I'm sorry.

00:58:18.820 Fucking GERD.

00:58:20.320 HIPAA.

00:58:20.780 Sorry.

00:58:21.280 Yeah.

00:58:23.420 I am violating your HIPAA every day.

00:58:25.600 Every day.

00:58:26.700 Every day, because then I'll go into an extensive conversation of why I threw up.

00:58:30.180 The amount of listeners are like, Andrew, you should go to the hospital.

00:58:33.680 The amount of listeners are like, Andrew, you should go to the hospital.

00:58:33.720 The amount of listeners are like, Andrew, you should go to the hospital.

00:58:34.760 Every single comment on everything we post is a diagnosis for Andrew, and every diagnosis

00:58:40.520 is different.

00:58:41.440 Girl, same.

00:58:42.740 Same.

00:58:43.360 On this show, on the show of days, they're constantly diagnosing.

00:58:46.220 Everyone lives to diagnose.

00:58:47.920 Girl.

00:58:48.240 And it was funny at first, but now we're starting to be like, scale back on the doctors.

00:58:52.060 Yeah.

00:58:52.240 I'm like, listen, you guys.

00:58:53.360 Like, thank you for saying that, but I'm actually good.

00:58:56.000 Girl, the amount, like, I've told people, like, well, me and Dace have both said, like,

00:59:00.000 I hate loud noises.

00:59:01.520 Like, I just, like, when they're in enclosed spaces.

00:59:03.780 Like, I don't, I don't like them outside, but, like, especially indoors, like, they upset

00:59:07.800 me.

00:59:08.100 Like, they make me angry.

00:59:09.520 The amount of people that diagnosed my mental illnesses off that.

00:59:12.440 Oh, yeah.

00:59:12.780 Of course.

00:59:13.500 Girl, the way they immediately were like, oh, yeah, you have this.

00:59:16.440 Yes.

00:59:17.340 No, I don't.

00:59:18.100 I was speaking to my therapist.

00:59:19.200 And even if I do, I don't need you to tell me.

00:59:20.840 I was speaking to my therapist for, like, three months last summer.

00:59:24.500 And I was like, all of my, like, YouTube comments are saying I'm autistic.

00:59:28.000 Like, I have to be autistic.

00:59:29.360 Like, it just finally makes sense.

00:59:30.720 And he was like, why do you even, like, why do you want to know this?

00:59:35.000 He's like, actually, it doesn't matter.

00:59:36.440 Like, I'm speaking to you.

00:59:37.360 Like, you don't need to know.

00:59:38.440 I was like, no, but everyone's letting me know that they must be right.

00:59:40.960 And he was like, does that affect you?

00:59:43.220 Like, do they know you?

00:59:44.160 And I was like, well.

00:59:45.000 No.

00:59:45.920 Yes.

00:59:46.720 I do.

00:59:47.540 Well, I don't know.

00:59:48.460 But I was like, when so many people are telling you things all the time about yourself, you start to be like, okay, you must have a point.

00:59:54.440 No, for real.

00:59:55.540 Myself and my doctors, they can make errors with this person.

00:59:59.960 They know what they're talking about.

01:00:01.020 Actually.

01:00:01.580 Yeah.

01:00:01.740 They're like, Andrew, you have severe ADHD.

01:00:03.700 I'm like, well, yeah.

01:00:06.640 Yeah.

01:00:07.240 That's why I have a podcast.

01:00:09.360 That's why this works.

01:00:10.320 One place all the way to another.

01:00:12.240 And then, again, I'm crying at the end.

01:00:13.700 How did we get here?

01:00:14.840 And to be fair, I've never really thought about it, but I've never thought actively that I had ADHD.

01:00:19.180 I'm like, I don't think so.

01:00:20.080 Because I can focus on one thing.

01:00:22.560 But then when I talk to my mom and sister, I'm like, actually, I don't know.

01:00:28.620 Because, like, again, like, I'll jump, jump, jump.

01:00:31.420 Like, as soon as I told you, I ended up Chinese Imperial Army.

01:00:34.320 How the fuck did I get there?

01:00:35.560 Like, I'll just talk for an hour with no interruption.

01:00:38.360 Yeah.

01:00:38.740 And I'll talk about three billion things in one.

01:00:42.640 And it's the same where, like, you start one task, and then you go, it takes you into another room.

01:00:47.200 And then you see something else, and you're like, well, I should do that.

01:00:49.380 And then I'll come back to this.

01:00:50.760 And then nothing's ever finished.

01:00:52.520 No.

01:00:52.760 I'm bad with staring.

01:00:54.240 Like, I was like, no.

01:00:55.440 I thought you were going to say stares.

01:00:56.860 In a restaurant.

01:00:57.740 No, because yesterday you put it into perspective for me again.

01:01:01.820 It's not the comments.

01:01:03.160 It's me.

01:01:03.440 No, she's like, you're his comments.

01:01:06.220 But any food that comes by, anything, even if I'm having an elaborate conversation with you, I'm somewhere.

01:01:13.160 I'm like, I was like, my neck is, it's almost, I'm getting whiplash, because I'm looking at everything else besides the person I'm with.

01:01:20.800 It's just like, hmm.

01:01:21.800 And Joe's like, huh, do you think this is why you shouldn't go to restaurants for dates?

01:01:25.860 I did not say it with this tone.

01:01:26.820 I did not say it.

01:01:27.700 All I said was, make sure you never go on another first to fourth date at a restaurant.

01:01:32.300 I'm like, oh, that sucks.

01:01:33.640 Save that.

01:01:34.380 Oh, okay.

01:01:34.640 I thought it was going to be me.

01:01:36.320 Off-star.

01:01:37.260 Off-star.

01:01:38.640 No, I was just saying, wait until someone gets to know you.

01:01:41.240 And then they'll, because otherwise.

01:01:42.720 Once they get used to that, then you can go outside.

01:01:45.260 Well, then they'll be like, oh, he's staring at food.

01:01:46.720 But you could be like, is he staring at another man?

01:01:48.740 Like, is he not interested in what I'm saying?

01:01:50.600 Because it's fully like zero dead on the molten lava cake where you're like, okay, I'm not even here.

01:01:54.460 Just show them your TikTok comments and be like, well, according to my doctors.

01:01:56.840 You want to know?

01:01:57.500 That's why.

01:01:57.840 Yeah, I have severe ADHD.

01:02:00.020 This is why that happens.

01:02:01.500 Yeah, for sure.

01:02:02.560 Dude, my boyfriend does this thing where he has to smell everything, which I don't know what that is.

01:02:08.280 But if someone wants to let me know.

01:02:09.900 Yeah, I'm sure they'll let me know.

01:02:11.340 But he has to smell it, like, no matter what it is, especially if he's going to eat it, which I find odd.

01:02:16.600 And he'll smell it even if he's already eaten it.

01:02:18.540 Is there sometimes, like, a smell and a rejection?

01:02:20.620 Like, if the smell isn't good, you won't have it?

01:02:22.160 Or, like, if he touches something and his hand gets wet, he immediately smells his hand, which I find to be gross.

01:02:28.060 That's a risk.

01:02:29.300 That's what I'm saying.

01:02:30.580 Literally yesterday, I'm not kidding, because he was, like, getting in the car and I think his hand got wet from, like, the rainwater because it was raining a bunch a couple days ago.

01:02:38.940 And then we get in the car and I'm talking and he's like, uh-huh, like, listening.

01:02:43.220 And I see him smell his hand and I was like, why do you do that?

01:02:46.560 Like, why do you do that?

01:02:48.760 Why do you do that?

01:02:49.520 That's gross.

01:02:49.920 And then he's like, how do you not smell things?

01:02:52.120 And I'm like, I don't need to.

01:02:54.060 I'm not a baby putting everything in my mouth to identify it.

01:02:56.960 I don't need to do that.

01:02:58.660 And I was like, you'll smell food you've already eaten.

01:03:00.900 Like, why do you do that?

01:03:02.920 And he was like, it's normal.

01:03:04.760 You're kind of a sniffer.

01:03:06.100 Really?

01:03:08.120 Really?

01:03:08.600 I'm sniffing now?

01:03:09.680 I'm a sniffer?

01:03:10.400 HIPAA.

01:03:11.080 HIPAA.

01:03:11.600 Listen.

01:03:12.640 One time I said-

01:03:13.440 Well, you're kind of a sniffer.

01:03:14.660 I said I'm a lip-

01:03:15.380 I'm a lip-

01:03:16.280 It almost sounds like an offensive slur.

01:03:18.580 I don't like it.

01:03:19.440 Do that?

01:03:20.360 No, we posted a clip for TikTok.

01:03:22.240 We were diagnosed from that one.

01:03:23.380 Of course.

01:03:24.020 I was smelling my upper lip.

01:03:25.560 I'm like, have you ever had a milkshake?

01:03:27.760 And like, it just like lingers that sour milk on the top of your lip?

01:03:30.480 I'm sorry.

01:03:31.380 But like, sorry your lips are big enough to smell them.

01:03:34.320 Like, that's a talent.

01:03:36.000 And stop saying I have lip filler.

01:03:37.660 Be having a smile.

01:03:39.480 Spiraling.

01:03:40.880 You said that it smells when you have a milkshake.

01:03:44.160 Sour milk.

01:03:45.640 You're disgusting.

01:03:46.580 It's like one of those things you can't stop smelling.

01:03:53.740 So you have to keep forcing yourself to smell it.

01:03:57.040 It's so disgusting, bro.

01:03:59.540 That is so real.

01:04:01.280 That's so funny.

01:04:02.100 Yeah, come on.

01:04:03.080 No one else is willing to say it but me.

01:04:05.140 You only need to have like a milkshake.

01:04:08.760 Oh, God.

01:04:09.760 That is so gross, dude.

01:04:11.920 It's so good.

01:04:12.880 You said no one's brave enough to say it.

01:04:15.400 I will.

01:04:16.360 I will.

01:04:18.040 God.

01:04:20.040 Oh, my God.

01:04:21.600 Holy fuck, dude.

01:04:23.320 That is so funny.

01:04:25.040 Because I know what you mean.

01:04:26.220 You'll never look at a milkshake.

01:04:26.840 I don't even know what I mean.

01:04:28.440 I know everybody here.

01:04:31.040 I was like, you're actually so real for that.

01:04:33.940 That's actually so true.

01:04:34.800 No one's looking me in the face.

01:04:38.100 Because you guys have been sniffing, haven't you?

01:04:40.760 Yeah.

01:04:40.980 Yeah.

01:04:41.060 Turns out we're all sniffers.

01:04:42.340 Lip sniffers.

01:04:45.860 Holy fuck, that's so gross.

01:04:48.060 Oh, my God.

01:04:48.780 That's so funny.

01:04:49.540 Dude, milkshakes are sinister.

01:04:51.140 No.

01:04:51.600 They turn your breath.

01:04:53.560 Top girl.

01:04:54.380 They turn everything.

01:04:55.740 I was just second to taste about this.

01:04:57.800 I'm like, shit, that makes...

01:04:58.800 Like, things that make your breath smell awful, no matter what.

01:05:01.260 Milkshake.

01:05:01.960 One of the things I said was, like, anything with, like, protein shake.

01:05:05.680 Yeah.

01:05:06.020 Oh, yeah.

01:05:06.880 Milkshake.

01:05:07.220 Anything creamy.

01:05:08.700 But especially a protein shake.

01:05:10.260 I'm like, what the fuck do they put in that that makes your breath so fucking rancid?

01:05:14.940 Yeah.

01:05:15.280 Don't know.

01:05:15.940 No.

01:05:16.220 It's, like, truly gross.

01:05:17.180 Or you process very well, though, right?

01:05:18.780 No.

01:05:19.400 No.

01:05:20.040 Girl, I told you what happened to me when I had that ricotta.

01:05:24.040 Girl.

01:05:25.060 You were diagnosed in those comments.

01:05:26.420 I sure fucking was.

01:05:28.300 With IBS, girl.

01:05:30.060 They were telling me that I paid the piper heavily that morning.

01:05:33.440 I barely made it to our session to record.

01:05:38.080 My asshole's on fucking fire.

01:05:40.260 It was fucking terrible.

01:05:40.460 But sometimes, like, it's kind of like...

01:05:42.680 That's, like, your trophy of an amazing dinner or an amazing...

01:05:45.480 Like, you're kind of like...

01:05:46.640 That's my take-home gift.

01:05:47.740 Yeah.

01:05:48.400 My asshole's on fire, and you're kind of like, last night was amazing.

01:05:54.200 Last night I went through a song called.

01:05:55.740 Unforgettable night.

01:05:56.760 Last night I was crazy.

01:05:57.840 Like, you know when it's, like, you're paying it so hard, you have to get, like, naked while

01:06:01.980 you're looking at it.

01:06:02.680 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:02.800 Like, you're just, like...

01:06:03.480 When the socks come off, it's a whole different experience.

01:06:04.960 Yes.

01:06:05.940 Yeah, when your feet have to touch tile or something.

01:06:08.860 Yeah.

01:06:08.980 Because you're, like, hot.

01:06:10.300 You're, like, on fire.

01:06:13.880 It's so bad.

01:06:15.700 It's one of those where you can't even look at your phone.

01:06:17.520 No.

01:06:17.980 Like, I can't even entertain myself.

01:06:19.280 You have to be present.

01:06:19.960 Yeah.

01:06:20.280 Like, both hands have to be moving.

01:06:21.980 Zeroing in.

01:06:22.440 Yeah.

01:06:22.640 Yeah, you have to lock in.

01:06:23.800 Full body tension.

01:06:25.160 Yeah.

01:06:26.080 Yeah.

01:06:26.500 I'll just read this last comment, and then we'll wrap it up.

01:06:29.540 But it says, no, nope, sorry.

01:06:31.840 Too close for comfort.

01:06:33.000 You two have to be shagging.

01:06:35.440 Well...

01:06:35.840 Shagging.

01:06:36.360 The problem is that we don't disagree.

01:06:38.300 I know.

01:06:39.140 That's almost the worst part.

01:06:40.980 I don't know.

01:06:41.680 I don't know.

01:06:42.700 I know.

01:06:43.380 How can we judge?

01:06:44.880 We can't.

01:06:45.000 Even if they are, I guess, that's not a problem.

01:06:46.800 Just to refresh, this is TikTok saying this is affection between two straight men.

01:06:51.620 Yeah, like, they're saying that they are two straight men who want to normalize affection

01:06:56.680 for your straight friends, which is fine, but then they're talking about cuddling and

01:07:00.840 rubbing each other's feet and stuff.

01:07:01.840 I'm going to tell you, though.

01:07:02.580 I think we should start posting content like that.

01:07:04.200 I think we should, too.

01:07:05.240 That's so funny.

01:07:05.500 We should be, like, normalize straight friendships.

01:07:07.480 Yeah.

01:07:08.220 Absolutely.

01:07:08.740 Yeah.

01:07:08.980 Yeah.

01:07:09.380 You're right.

01:07:10.620 Change nothing about you.

01:07:11.800 Next week, you're going to be reading comments on that.

01:07:14.020 Exactly.

01:07:15.620 You know, if they're massaging each other's feet, who are we to say if they're shagging?

01:07:20.360 You never know.

01:07:21.180 Love is love.

01:07:22.220 Sometimes you have a little, like, muscle ache in your foot.

01:07:24.900 Totally.

01:07:25.160 And then your bro is there.

01:07:26.720 And he's like, he's got some thumbs.

01:07:27.960 It's actually really sad to think that you couldn't ask your bro to massage your foot.

01:07:32.040 Like, that's a shame.

01:07:33.240 That's fair.

01:07:34.140 You know what I mean?

01:07:35.020 Yeah, totally.

01:07:35.500 If I needed you to massage my foot, I know that you would.

01:07:37.840 And I would.

01:07:38.380 You would do anything.

01:07:38.920 I'm like, you're like, that's weird.

01:07:42.020 You would do anything to massage my feet?

01:07:45.600 So you start on your own.

01:07:46.800 Actually, forget it.

01:07:47.640 This is weird.

01:07:48.180 No.

01:07:48.680 I think that's how it would unfold.

01:07:50.080 I do agree.

01:07:50.780 But at least you got to try it.

01:07:51.900 Yeah.

01:07:52.140 Yeah.

01:07:52.340 The cuddling, I would say, let's keep that out of the equation.

01:07:57.120 But that's just our boundary.

01:07:59.120 That's just my boundary.

01:07:59.900 And maybe that's not theirs.

01:08:01.260 Yeah.

01:08:02.060 Well, and I think, too, it's like the undertones of it.

01:08:04.940 Even if they were, like, a man and a woman.

01:08:07.780 Yeah.

01:08:08.260 Like, there is a certain line you cross when you start, like, really showing, like, love

01:08:13.120 affection.

01:08:14.120 Yeah.

01:08:14.520 You know what I'm saying?

01:08:15.160 It doesn't even really matter how they identify.

01:08:17.240 Right.

01:08:17.540 Like, you get past a certain point.

01:08:19.300 You're like, is this?

01:08:20.820 Yeah.

01:08:21.240 You know what I mean?

01:08:21.880 Yes.

01:08:22.300 So, I mean, there's nothing wrong with showing affection to your rose.

01:08:25.560 No.

01:08:26.060 Nothing at all.

01:08:27.280 Look at that.

01:08:27.740 And we should be showing more affection to our rose.

01:08:32.980 You should be showing more affection to your rose.

01:08:35.300 Okay.

01:08:35.660 Well, just to wrap, right?

01:08:37.320 We talked about all kinds of things.

01:08:39.140 Nothing on topic.

01:08:40.160 I don't remember a single one.

01:08:42.380 I don't remember a single thing.

01:08:43.760 Other than you saying you smell your lips after you have no shirt.

01:08:45.720 Yeah.

01:08:45.920 That was the closure for sure.

01:08:48.340 That took us out.

01:08:49.660 The surface on the internet again.

01:08:52.180 But we did talk about, obviously, your guys' beautiful friendship and now partnership

01:08:57.480 because you all have an amazing podcast together.

01:09:00.280 But I would love to know what your best piece of advice is for anyone who's like besties

01:09:04.960 and maybe they want to go into business together or start a pod or, you know, do any sort of

01:09:09.920 creative endeavor together.

01:09:11.360 What's your guys' best piece of advice for them?

01:09:13.560 I think that's like trust what the other person has to say, too.

01:09:16.940 It's like I think we do a really good job of like Joe will come in with an idea.

01:09:20.760 I'll come in with an idea and we both hear each other and being like, yes.

01:09:24.060 It's also like when you go into business with somebody, it's like you need to know how to

01:09:27.400 have conversations.

01:09:28.040 And like we struggled at the beginning.

01:09:30.000 We were like, what the hell are we doing?

01:09:31.900 Or like the passiveness would catch up.

01:09:34.380 But like when money is involved, like you need to have conversations.

01:09:37.880 You need to recognize what you're getting yourself into.

01:09:40.480 And if you're monetizing a friendship, like you need to have a solid foundation for your

01:09:44.380 friendship before you even get into it.

01:09:46.040 Yeah, I also think that that's the main it's like making sure that the most important thing

01:09:50.460 is the friendship.

01:09:51.300 Yeah, it's above the business.

01:09:53.660 Yeah, because I think that we had like in our first year of doing things like getting

01:09:58.260 a morsel of attention.

01:09:59.560 I feel like we suddenly were like every time we were together, it was content.

01:10:03.220 Yeah.

01:10:03.700 And like prior to that, it was like we were together every single day for no reason.

01:10:07.780 Yeah.

01:10:07.940 And just for fun.

01:10:08.920 Yeah.

01:10:09.140 So I feel like now we found that healthy middle where it's like, well, listen, we're still

01:10:12.220 going to make that content, but we also need to prioritize like the only reason this exists

01:10:16.780 is because we have a special friendship.

01:10:18.780 Yeah.

01:10:19.100 And not the other way around.

01:10:20.360 Yeah.

01:10:20.700 Yeah.

01:10:21.480 I think that's very important.

01:10:22.940 Yeah.

01:10:23.080 That's fun.

01:10:23.840 That's such a good point about separating the two and prioritizing one over the other

01:10:28.380 because same thing with me and my sister too.

01:10:31.040 Right.

01:10:31.100 Like it's like we're sisters before we're business partners, just like you guys are besties

01:10:35.760 before you're business partners.

01:10:37.060 Period.

01:10:37.640 Love that.

01:10:38.500 Thank you guys so much for coming on the show.

01:10:40.260 Thank you.

01:10:40.680 I'm obsessed with all of you.

01:10:41.920 I honestly multiple times forgot we were recording.

01:10:44.780 You know, same is the best feeling.

01:10:46.280 I'm just obsessed with you guys.

01:10:47.280 I can't wait to hear this episode because I'm terrified.

01:10:50.360 Because I don't remember a fucking thing.

01:10:52.380 No.

01:10:53.800 Where can everybody find you?

01:10:55.520 You can find us across all platforms at Good Children Pod.

01:10:58.500 New episodes every single Wednesday.

01:11:00.340 Period.

01:11:00.740 Period.

01:11:01.100 And what about individuals?

01:11:03.220 Individuals?

01:11:03.780 I'm on Instagram at Andrew Muscarella.

01:11:06.520 Period.

01:11:06.740 And on TikTok at Andrew underscore Musky, M-U-S-K-Y.

01:11:10.560 Love.

01:11:10.900 I'm on Instagram at Joe Hedges.

01:11:13.100 H-E-G-Y-E-S.

01:11:14.300 And on TikTok at BeQuietJoe.

01:11:17.740 Love.

01:11:18.400 Thank you so much for coming on the pod.

01:11:20.660 Thank you.

01:11:20.960 Thank you.

01:11:21.100 Thank you guys.

01:11:21.380 I adore you guys.

01:11:22.300 You guys are so fucking funny.

01:11:23.800 And thank you all for joining us on this episode of the comment section.

01:11:26.360 Please don't forget to follow Joe and Andrew on everything.

01:11:29.140 And make sure you listen to Good Children.

01:11:30.860 It is so fucking hilarious.

01:11:33.420 And I've also been on their show.

01:11:35.060 So y'all can check out that episode as well.

01:11:37.480 Period.

01:11:37.880 Start there and work back.

01:11:39.560 Period.

01:11:40.120 Love that.

01:11:40.640 And thank you so much for joining us.

01:11:41.940 Don't forget, new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday.

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01:11:50.820 Platform.

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01:11:53.300 Duh.

01:11:54.020 And thank you so much again to Joe and Andrew.

01:11:56.600 Good children for being on the show.

01:11:57.920 And I'll see you next week.

01:11:59.280 Bye.

01:11:59.920 Bye.

01:12:00.240 Bye.

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