The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - HATERS AND DIEHARDS Ft. hemlocke springs ｜ Episode 201

00:00:00.000 Your style inspiration is Miss Frizzle.

00:00:02.400 I love Miss Frizzle! 0.99

00:00:04.320 Oh my gosh, just so underrated, so underrated.

00:00:07.440 That is so T, I love that.

00:00:09.440 Do I give Miss Frizzle right now? 1.00

00:00:10.880 Yes, absolutely.

00:00:12.760 Honestly, you know what I was thinking of

00:00:14.520 with your look right now?

00:00:15.400 It's like Monster High.

00:00:16.840 Really?

00:00:17.680 I love like a Monster High doll,

00:00:18.680 like you know what I'm saying?

00:00:20.080 Like a cunty little outfit. 1.00

00:00:21.600 Thank you, I give cunt? 1.00

00:00:23.280 Yes! 0.96

00:00:30.000 Hey everyone, and welcome back to another episode

00:00:34.280 of the Comment Section Show,

00:00:35.600 starring me, your fave, your host, Drew.

00:00:37.640 Merry Christmas and happy holidays, clearly,

00:00:41.880 or Merry Christmas Eve, whenever you're watching this.

00:00:44.060 I don't know, girl, I don't know your life.

00:00:45.720 Anyways, on to the guests.

00:00:47.340 Today we have the iconic, the talented,

00:00:49.520 the legendary, Hemlock Springs!

00:00:52.040 Woo! 0.99

00:00:55.240 Welcome to the show.

00:00:56.800 Thank you for having me, Drew.

00:00:58.040 Oh my God, thank you so much for joining us

00:00:59.600 on this very special holiday episode.

00:01:01.640 I'm sorry I didn't tell you it was a holiday episode.

00:01:05.840 It's all good in spirit, literally.

00:01:08.680 Right.

00:01:09.520 But I'm with you, yeah.

00:01:10.960 Yeah, I'm honored to have you here.

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00:01:39.080 How you doing?

00:01:40.000 I'm good.

00:01:40.720 No, just chilling, chilling here, trying to figure out what to say.

00:01:46.200 Oh, girl, don't worry. 0.78

00:01:47.880 I'm already stumbling.

00:01:48.800 Oh, don't even worry about it, that's my job.

00:01:50.760 Oh, awesome.

00:01:51.760 My job is to, I always like to describe it as like, I'm just driving the ship.

00:01:54.120 You just take in the sights.

00:01:55.440 That's great, I can't drive.

00:01:56.440 As I steer.

00:01:57.440 So, that's awesome.

00:01:58.440 There you go.

00:01:59.440 Yeah.

00:02:00.440 Well, I'm happy to have you.

00:02:01.440 Huge fan.

00:02:02.440 Thank you.

00:02:03.440 Of you and your art.

00:02:04.440 Same here.

00:02:05.440 I would love to know, just for, or get into first, the history of your artistry and like,

00:02:08.080 how you became into, how you came into performance as a whole.

00:02:10.440 Yeah.

00:02:11.440 I'd like to know that.

00:02:12.440 Let's start there.

00:02:13.440 I mean, I was doing school.

00:02:15.360 I was up in Dartmouth.

00:02:17.200 I was doing my master's program.

00:02:19.040 OKT, smarty pants. 1.00

00:02:20.600 Oh, no.

00:02:21.320 Love that.

00:02:22.320 I sound a lot smarter than I actually am, unfortunately.

00:02:25.320 OK, you know what, we're going to fix that because you are smart.

00:02:28.320 Ah, thank you.

00:02:29.480 I love it, I love it.

00:02:31.640 But yeah, no, I just, I discovered TikTok like after I got COVID like the, like two weeks

00:02:37.360 before I discovered TikTok.

00:02:39.400 What year was this?

00:02:40.960 It had to be like 2022.

00:02:42.760 Interesting, OK.

00:02:43.760 And so I was like scrolling and I was like, oh, yeah, OK, I see what this is.

00:02:47.840 And then I was like, you know, I did, I just recently did a song, like how about I put

00:02:53.440 it on TikTok because I don't really want to do my machine learning homework.

00:02:56.640 And so I did that.

00:02:57.520 And then now I'm here.

00:02:58.520 Life finds a way.

00:03:00.640 Life finds a way.

00:03:01.560 Well, I'm interested, you said you were pursuing your master's at Dartmouth.

00:03:04.200 Yeah.

00:03:04.640 What were you getting a master's in?

00:03:06.280 I was doing bioinformatics and I was just looking at, I wanted to.

00:03:10.880 Two seconds ago, you were like, oh, I sound a lot smarter.

00:03:14.960 I don't even know what that is.

00:03:16.960 I think smart.

00:03:18.960 It sounds a lot smarter.

00:03:21.560 I was just using like statistics and computer science to like look at different like biological

00:03:26.360 data sets.

00:03:26.960 It could be DNA sequences, could be sicknesses, could be whatever.

00:03:30.640 And so. 0.99

00:03:31.640 You sound smart as fuck to me. 0.99

00:03:32.640 Nah. 0.99

00:03:33.640 So if you're trying to hide being smart, you're not doing a good job.

00:03:38.640 Thank you.

00:03:39.640 Thank you. 0.71

00:03:40.640 That is so fucking cool.

00:03:41.640 What got you into that? 0.97

00:03:42.640 Women in STEM? 1.00

00:03:43.640 Yeah.

00:03:44.640 Honestly, no, I went to Spelman, which is an all black girls college in Atlanta.

00:03:48.640 And I was like, I want to do biology and I want, I want to be a doctor first, but that

00:03:53.640 wasn't going to work.

00:03:54.640 Hey, I would trust you with my life as my doctor.

00:03:58.640 Oh, don't. 1.00

00:03:59.640 You're dead. 0.97

00:04:00.640 I'm sorry.

00:04:01.640 I come in sensitive or I'm like, yeah, she's the one.

00:04:05.640 I'm honored.

00:04:06.640 Thank you.

00:04:07.640 What kind of doctor were you thinking about?

00:04:09.640 You know, that's a great question because I went in, I was like, I want to be an OBGYN.

00:04:14.640 But then I was like, there's so many other doctors out there that I didn't know at the

00:04:19.640 time, but I stuck with OBGYN.

00:04:21.640 But then I was like, I don't really want to do that.

00:04:24.640 Yeah.

00:04:25.640 Yeah.

00:04:26.640 After a while you're like, nevermind.

00:04:27.640 Yeah.

00:04:28.640 Well, that's the best time to decide.

00:04:29.640 Exactly.

00:04:30.640 When you're sampling in college.

00:04:31.640 Exactly.

00:04:32.640 Okay.

00:04:33.640 So I was like, you know, like, but I'm still going to like, see this through cause I still

00:04:36.640 do love biology and stuff and like that.

00:04:38.640 And then I went into my master's program and I was like, yeah, I really don't want to do this.

00:04:43.640 So I'm like, I'll be just like do research and like be a researcher.

00:04:47.640 And yeah, I ended up not doing that.

00:04:50.640 What did you love about biology?

00:04:54.640 Um, I think I just like learning about just life, the life around me, what's in my body,

00:04:59.640 what's out there.

00:05:01.640 And I mean, I grew up really cool.

00:05:04.640 I love that.

00:05:05.640 Yeah.

00:05:06.640 No, I was like, I just, I grew up with a lot of questions and I feel like I just wanted

00:05:10.640 to seek the answers to those questions.

00:05:12.640 And biology was like the way I guess, I guess there are other fields, but biology was the

00:05:18.640 one that made sense for me.

00:05:19.640 So I'm like, Oh, I'll do this.

00:05:21.640 Yeah.

00:05:22.640 When did music come into play?

00:05:23.640 Um, like, have you always loved music?

00:05:25.640 Was it something you discovered?

00:05:26.640 Yeah, no, I was, I was honestly, I think it was something that, that like was just shown

00:05:31.640 to me.

00:05:32.640 I was with, I was in high school.

00:05:33.640 I've always done chorus.

00:05:34.640 Cause I knew like, I could sing a little bit, like not like it wasn't a Whitney Houston,

00:05:38.640 but I'm like, I can hold a tune.

00:05:39.640 So I was like, let me go.

00:05:41.640 Um, but one of my friends who I'm still friends with, their name is MJ.

00:05:47.640 They showed me like, Oh, they're like, Oh, I did a song on garage band.

00:05:51.640 And I'm like, what's that?

00:05:52.640 And they're like, you have it on your computer. 1.00

00:05:54.640 You dumb ass. 1.00

00:05:55.640 I'm like, okay, but I, uh, I started just looking on garage band and just like started 1.00

00:06:02.640 playing in that realm.

00:06:04.640 And then it just never ended.

00:06:06.640 I was like, Oh, I'll spend, um, I'm going to spend some money to just continue to do

00:06:11.640 me doing this.

00:06:12.640 Cause I like doing it and why question that?

00:06:15.640 And so I just did it, but I did it in secret.

00:06:17.640 Cause I was like, Oh, like I can, like, it took me a while even now, like to be like,

00:06:22.640 Oh, I'm an artist.

00:06:23.640 Like I, I produce and I'm an artist.

00:06:25.640 Like I think, and definitely back then I'm like, Oh, I, you know, I just, I just dabble

00:06:30.640 here and there.

00:06:31.640 Like I just, you know.

00:06:32.640 Women in STEM for real. 0.99

00:06:33.640 Like you took, you took that and applied it to like engineering, sound engineering. 0.99

00:06:37.640 It's fucking cool. 0.98

00:06:38.640 Literally. 0.95

00:06:39.640 And so, yeah, no.

00:06:40.640 And so I credit them.

00:06:41.640 Thank you.

00:06:42.640 MJ.

00:06:43.640 I don't know where the camera is.

00:06:44.640 Thank you.

00:06:45.640 Yeah.

00:06:46.640 Whichever one you want.

00:06:47.640 Oh really?

00:06:48.640 Oh my God.

00:06:49.640 Thanks MJ.

00:06:50.640 I just talked to them.

00:06:51.640 Their house recently burned down.

00:06:52.640 So I know it was, it was actually crazy too.

00:06:55.640 That wasn't the, I was like, Oh, happy Thanksgiving.

00:06:57.640 And they're like, Oh, my house burned down, but I'm going to go to like Thanksgiving dinner

00:07:02.640 with my mom.

00:07:03.640 And I'm like, how is your house not burning down?

00:07:05.640 Or how's your house burning down?

00:07:06.640 Not the crux of your message.

00:07:08.640 Honestly, I admire them.

00:07:09.640 No, I'm like, yeah.

00:07:10.640 Kind of an awful thing happened, but on my way to dinner.

00:07:12.640 Yeah.

00:07:13.640 Let's dinner.

00:07:14.640 Key key key.

00:07:15.640 I was like, okay.

00:07:16.640 I was like, all righty.

00:07:17.640 Um, but, um.

00:07:18.640 Okay.

00:07:19.640 So you got into engineering.

00:07:20.640 That's kind of how you started just making beats or were you like, and you were singing

00:07:22.640 on your own.

00:07:23.640 Yeah.

00:07:24.640 I would like, I would like sing in the library, but like nobody would really be in the library.

00:07:28.640 Right.

00:07:29.640 And so I was just like, Oh, like actually pause.

00:07:32.640 I'll be in the library bathroom.

00:07:33.640 There we go.

00:07:34.640 Right.

00:07:35.640 And I would like bring like my mic and I'll just be like.

00:07:38.640 Why the library bathroom?

00:07:40.640 Nobody would be there.

00:07:42.640 Oh, and so it's quiet.

00:07:43.640 Yeah.

00:07:44.640 Interestingly.

00:07:45.640 And like, I don't know, there were classrooms, there were empty classrooms, but like people

00:07:50.640 liked being in the empty classrooms and not really the library.

00:07:53.640 And so I'm like, well, I'm going to go to the library and I'm just going to, you know,

00:07:56.640 nobody's going to, who's going to stop?

00:07:58.640 They don't know.

00:07:59.640 No, you're right.

00:08:00.640 Yeah.

00:08:01.640 And so I was like.

00:08:02.640 And show me where it says you can't record songs in the bathroom.

00:08:03.640 Exactly.

00:08:04.640 Exactly.

00:08:05.640 That's not in the rules anywhere.

00:08:06.640 It's not in the rules.

00:08:08.640 And so I would just, I would do that frequently when I should have been studying.

00:08:12.640 But now, you know what?

00:08:13.640 No, I did what I needed to do.

00:08:15.640 Yeah.

00:08:16.640 You're, you know, your spirit was for sure following something.

00:08:18.640 Yeah.

00:08:19.640 Absolutely.

00:08:20.640 Clearly look.

00:08:21.640 Look at you.

00:08:22.640 Thank you.

00:08:23.640 You were following the right calling.

00:08:24.640 Thank you.

00:08:25.640 We've had multiple callings, but this was the right one.

00:08:27.640 This was the right one.

00:08:28.640 This was the one.

00:08:29.640 Okay.

00:08:30.640 So when you, when did you start like actually trying to make music?

00:08:32.640 Like, oh man, I think honestly, like when my, my first Tik Tok kind of went like viral,

00:08:40.640 I was like, oh, okay.

00:08:42.640 Like I'm people like it.

00:08:44.640 Cool.

00:08:45.640 Alrighty.

00:08:46.640 I'll why not?

00:08:47.640 You know, like, and I think my friends at the time, like at the time, we're still friends.

00:08:53.640 Why am I saying that?

00:08:54.640 Why am I saying that?

00:08:55.640 Why am I saying that?

00:08:56.640 Right.

00:08:57.640 My friends were just like, hey, like, you know, you have an opportunity to do something 0.98

00:09:01.640 and like, you would kind of be dumb to like, just not go for it. 0.97

00:09:06.640 Like let it pass you by. 0.98

00:09:07.640 Yeah.

00:09:08.640 And I feel like fear was kind of rocking me.

00:09:10.640 So I'm like, you know what?

00:09:11.640 I'm gonna be Dora the Explorer.

00:09:12.640 Let me put the backpack on and let's see where it goes.

00:09:14.640 Right.

00:09:15.640 Period.

00:09:16.640 Thank God you did.

00:09:17.640 Thank you.

00:09:18.640 Well, I think that's wonderful.

00:09:19.640 What do you think?

00:09:20.640 What were you afraid of?

00:09:21.640 Hmm.

00:09:22.640 I think failure, but I feel that that's just going to happen.

00:09:26.640 Like, I think I'm going to make a lot of mistakes.

00:09:28.640 I'm going to quote unquote fail a lot.

00:09:30.640 And that's not necessarily a negative thing.

00:09:32.640 It's just a learning experience.

00:09:33.640 Absolutely.

00:09:34.640 And it doesn't mean you're not walking in your purpose.

00:09:36.640 Exactly.

00:09:37.640 Cause you're absolutely walking in purpose.

00:09:39.640 Yeah.

00:09:40.640 So when, when did you feel like it was like really starting to like, oh my gosh, I think

00:09:44.640 this is becoming something.

00:09:45.640 Okay.

00:09:46.640 Honestly, I think it was when I got a, I'd gotten like little shout outs here and there,

00:09:51.640 but I remember like Doja Cat shouted me out and I was very confused as to like the line

00:09:59.640 of how, I was like, how, how does she like, how does she know me?

00:10:04.640 Like what, what?

00:10:05.640 Oh my gosh.

00:10:06.640 And like, like all my friends are just like, what the hell?

00:10:09.640 Like what is going on with you?

00:10:12.640 And I was just like, no y'all.

00:10:14.640 I'm a, I'm an artist.

00:10:15.640 Like, I'm actually doing this. 0.99

00:10:20.640 And so I feel like it was then I'm like, okay, like, oh shit. 0.99

00:10:23.640 Very cool though. 0.99

00:10:24.640 Yeah.

00:10:25.640 No, very, very cool.

00:10:26.640 Very cool.

00:10:27.640 And since then, like, just, I've just gotten like, honestly, it's, I think it's been the

00:10:32.640 community, like the artist community that I've been like, oh, like, I think that's given

00:10:35.640 me the confidence to be like, you know what?

00:10:37.640 No, I, I can, I can do this.

00:10:39.640 Absolutely.

00:10:40.640 And I like, and I love like just being that this is my job.

00:10:43.640 And so.

00:10:44.640 Yeah. 0.97

00:10:45.640 You're also so unique, which is fucking awesome. 0.96

00:10:47.640 It's so refreshing. 0.93

00:10:48.640 I mean that so sincerely.

00:10:49.640 And I saw you perform at the Rose Bowl.

00:10:51.640 Oh yeah.

00:10:52.640 Yeah.

00:10:53.640 For Chapel.

00:10:54.640 Yeah.

00:10:55.640 For Chapel.

00:10:56.640 And I know you love Chapel.

00:10:57.640 Yes.

00:10:58.640 She is wonderful and amazing.

00:10:59.640 Yes.

00:11:00.640 Oh my God.

00:11:01.640 The amount of times.

00:11:02.640 So what about Chapel?

00:11:03.640 Everybody always asked me about her.

00:11:04.640 Really?

00:11:05.640 Yeah.

00:11:06.640 Because she did, she did my show and. 0.67

00:11:07.640 Yeah.

00:11:08.640 Yeah.

00:11:09.640 She doesn't really do interviews anymore.

00:11:10.640 So like, but she did mine and that's because we're friends, but like.

00:11:12.640 I'm dead.

00:11:13.640 Yeah.

00:11:14.640 Like, but I was like, they're just like, so do you like Chapel?

00:11:16.640 Is she awesome? 0.74

00:11:17.640 I'm dead.

00:11:18.640 And I bet you get that question a lot too.

00:11:20.640 I do, but I love it.

00:11:21.640 I love it.

00:11:22.640 I love it.

00:11:23.640 I'll sing her praises.

00:11:24.640 Exactly.

00:11:25.640 To the cows come home.

00:11:26.640 I was like, she like stands behind her actions and stuff.

00:11:28.640 She like reached out to me.

00:11:29.640 Like, like when one of my songs was going viral.

00:11:32.640 And since then, like she's supported me all the way.

00:11:35.640 So yeah, I'll answer.

00:11:36.640 I was like.

00:11:37.640 Hell yeah.

00:11:38.640 Hell yeah.

00:11:39.640 Well, you're getting co-signs from very like unique people in the industry.

00:11:43.640 Like people who I've broken through, which I think is quite the co-sign.

00:11:46.640 Yeah. 0.98

00:11:47.640 It's fucking amazing. 0.97

00:11:48.640 It's really cool. 0.99

00:11:49.640 And rightfully so.

00:11:50.640 I watched you perform.

00:11:51.640 I watched your whole set.

00:11:52.640 Oh God.

00:11:53.640 Which one?

00:11:54.640 I did night two.

00:11:55.640 Okay.

00:11:56.640 Yeah.

00:11:57.640 I was like, night one was very interesting, but night two was also very interesting.

00:12:01.640 But yeah.

00:12:02.640 I thought you were fantastic.

00:12:03.640 You're kind.

00:12:04.640 And even, you know, what's so funny is like when we were in the audience, my assistant,

00:12:08.640 who was also like one of my best friends, Carrie was with us, my sister and our friend Cody,

00:12:12.640 and we were watching.

00:12:13.640 And then I was like, we should ask her to come on the show.

00:12:15.640 I'm dead.

00:12:16.640 Yeah.

00:12:17.640 I literally had that thought.

00:12:18.640 And then she was like, it's funny.

00:12:19.640 You say that because I'm pretty sure I've heard from their team before.

00:12:21.640 Let me reach out to them.

00:12:22.640 Oh, she's also my booker for the show.

00:12:24.640 Oh, wait.

00:12:25.640 So I watched your set. 1.00

00:12:26.640 I was like, get that talented bitch on my show. 1.00

00:12:29.640 Right now. 1.00

00:12:30.640 Oh, thank you.

00:12:31.640 Oh, thank you.

00:12:32.640 So I love that.

00:12:33.640 I thought you were incredible.

00:12:34.640 Oh, thank you so much.

00:12:35.640 And you're just so unique.

00:12:36.640 Like your sound is so interesting.

00:12:37.640 How did you find your sound?

00:12:39.640 I mean, I think like I just listened to a lot of 80s stuff and a lot of, I don't know.

00:12:46.640 I always cite like Kate Bush or like Grimes or Prince or whoever.

00:12:49.640 And I'm just like, yeah, it probably all made its way there.

00:12:54.640 Yeah.

00:12:55.640 Like an 80s like synth pop, like that kind of thing.

00:12:57.640 Yeah.

00:12:58.640 80s synth pop.

00:12:59.640 But I think that.

00:13:00.640 I love that.

00:13:01.640 Thank you.

00:13:02.640 No, I just, you know, I, but when I like go and make music, like, I don't really think

00:13:05.640 that way.

00:13:06.640 I'm just like, I'm going to make a song and you know, whatever comes out is what comes out.

00:13:09.640 And what sounds cool to you.

00:13:10.640 Yeah.

00:13:11.640 And I guess that sounded cool to me, but it's weird.

00:13:13.640 I don't see myself as unique or that in any way.

00:13:16.640 I see myself as like quite, quite like mundane, quite boring.

00:13:20.640 Well, that's the problem.

00:13:22.640 Let's start there.

00:13:24.640 You should not be looking at yourself the way you are incredibly unique in a beautiful way.

00:13:29.640 And honestly, a very refreshing way, especially when you blend genres.

00:13:33.640 Like even like Rico Nasty is someone I think about who's done the art of blending genres.

00:13:39.640 Ash Niko is another one.

00:13:40.640 I love Ash Niko.

00:13:41.640 All of whom you remind me of.

00:13:42.640 Yeah.

00:13:43.640 Like it's very, you're literally operating in that very specific area.

00:13:45.640 I love it.

00:13:46.640 Thank you.

00:13:47.640 It's incredible.

00:13:48.640 No, it's an honor.

00:13:49.640 I was going to ask like, what were your like musical inspirations?

00:13:51.640 And you just kind of listed some.

00:13:52.640 Yeah.

00:13:53.640 Like Grimes, Prince.

00:13:54.640 Yeah.

00:13:55.640 I'm like, I feel like Kate Bush is my big one that I always cite that I'm like,

00:13:58.640 I was like, I love her so much.

00:14:02.640 Um, but yeah, no, I'm like, and just a lot of like, just not in the 80s band, but I feel

00:14:08.640 like some, I feel like I don't know.

00:14:10.640 I, I struggle with names, but I know one song like, Oh, this is like this song and this song

00:14:15.640 and this song and this song all came together.

00:14:17.640 And that's, that's me.

00:14:18.640 That's, that's the gist of it.

00:14:21.640 Um, but yeah, I feel like those are like the main ones that I'm like, y'all know their

00:14:25.640 artistry is incredible and amazing and something that I hope to emulate, um, now in the future

00:14:31.640 as well.

00:14:32.640 Yeah.

00:14:33.640 Amazing.

00:14:34.640 Thank you.

00:14:35.640 Who do you, um, like listen to now?

00:14:36.640 Like what's, who's inspiring you now in the music space?

00:14:38.640 Ooh, that's a good one.

00:14:40.640 Um, I feel like, I feel like I've been trying to get out of my comfort zone a lot and like

00:14:47.640 trying to, cause I, I will quite literally listen to the same song again and again, again.

00:14:52.640 I get it.

00:14:53.640 Me too.

00:14:54.640 I get that.

00:14:55.640 So I'm like, no, you have to get out.

00:14:58.640 You have to try stuff.

00:14:59.640 And so I've been listening to this band.

00:15:02.640 I think they're also, they could be eighties or nineties called Los Prisioneros.

00:15:06.640 Um, and they have a song called Trenouser, which I like how I'm like, Oh, like I, I don't

00:15:11.640 like, I try not to listen to a song again and again.

00:15:14.640 I listened to that song again and again.

00:15:16.640 I listened to it on the way here, but I love it.

00:15:19.640 I was like, but I love it.

00:15:20.640 And it's just something it's now something new.

00:15:22.640 So I'm like, you know what?

00:15:23.640 I, I, I went myself halfway in that.

00:15:26.640 Amazing.

00:15:27.640 And so, yeah.

00:15:28.640 Do you have any like dream collaborations music wise?

00:15:31.640 Like something you would be like, Oh, I would die to do that.

00:15:33.640 That would be so awesome.

00:15:34.640 Oh man.

00:15:35.640 I say, see my, I'm horrible at collaborate.

00:15:38.640 I'm horrible at collaborations.

00:15:41.640 I'm really bad to collaborate with.

00:15:43.640 I'm really bad.

00:15:44.640 I'm like, I get too shy.

00:15:47.640 Oh, I moved the mic.

00:15:48.640 Sorry.

00:15:49.640 I get too shy.

00:15:51.640 I get like in my head a lot and I'm just like, Oh man.

00:15:55.640 Well, let me tell you something about this show.

00:15:57.640 This is the manifestation hub.

00:15:59.640 Really?

00:16:00.640 So if you have someone you want to work with, you, you say it here.

00:16:03.640 Really?

00:16:04.640 Because it shall come true.

00:16:05.640 It shall come true. 0.81

00:16:06.640 Yes.

00:16:07.640 I make it.

00:16:08.640 So my third, my third eyes on and open.

00:16:10.640 I'm dead.

00:16:11.640 So if there is someone like, who would you love to work with?

00:16:14.640 Hmm.

00:16:15.640 Hmm.

00:16:16.640 I think I would love to, I would love to work with Dochi.

00:16:20.640 Oh, that would be so amazing.

00:16:22.640 Oh, the way I got a chill.

00:16:24.640 Loki, I got a chill just now.

00:16:27.640 Dochi.

00:16:28.640 I say, um, Tyler, the creator.

00:16:31.640 Oh my God.

00:16:32.640 I thought of Tyler when you were talking earlier.

00:16:34.640 Because you remind me of him too.

00:16:35.640 Yeah.

00:16:36.640 Thank you. 0.63

00:16:37.640 So fucking awesome. 0.92

00:16:38.640 I'm like, I'm trying, I'm trying to think. 0.98

00:16:39.640 I'm trying to just like throw it out there.

00:16:40.640 If it's the manifestation.

00:16:42.640 Um, I feel like those are, I was like, I feel like those are top three though.

00:16:45.640 Like I was just like, I feel like that would be really, just a really cool combo.

00:16:49.640 Oh, I would die to see that.

00:16:51.640 Really?

00:16:52.640 Yes.

00:16:53.640 I would love that.

00:16:54.640 I'm like, I'll, I'll work hard.

00:16:55.640 Geniuses all in the room together.

00:16:56.640 I'm the, I mean, one of them, I'm just kind of there.

00:16:59.640 Okay.

00:17:00.640 Miss Dartmouth masters and robots.

00:17:03.640 I was like, I'll just take their energy and just like, hopefully like.

00:17:08.640 No, I think that's incredible.

00:17:09.640 And honestly, I feel like Tyler, the creator talks about that a lot too.

00:17:11.640 About like not feeling beholden to one specific genre.

00:17:15.640 Yeah.

00:17:16.640 And being forced into one, but also like being confident that you can transcend genre.

00:17:20.640 Yeah.

00:17:21.640 And I feel like you can absolutely.

00:17:23.640 I'll be confident enough for the both of us in that.

00:17:25.640 Thank you.

00:17:26.640 Until you're ready.

00:17:27.640 Thank you.

00:17:28.640 Until you're ready to come through with me.

00:17:29.640 It's growing.

00:17:30.640 It is.

00:17:31.640 And it should be, you've earned it.

00:17:32.640 Thank you so much.

00:17:33.640 But speaking of, we're going to practice right now bragging on our own accomplishments.

00:17:36.640 Okay.

00:17:37.640 But like, what's been the coolest thing or the thing you're most proud of that you've

00:17:40.640 done so far?

00:17:41.640 Oh, the thing I'm most proud of, you know?

00:17:45.640 Okay.

00:17:46.640 The thing I'm most proud of there were, I'm like, I didn't want to look up my manager,

00:17:51.640 but I feel like he remembers this.

00:17:53.640 There were, um, so I, I did open, I opened for chapel and I opened for Conan and there

00:17:58.640 were going to be six days where it was like chapel, Conan, or Conan, Conan, chapel, Conan,

00:18:03.640 chapel, Conan, chapel, Conan, chapel.

00:18:05.640 Right.

00:18:06.640 And I was just like, I don't know if I could, I, I don't know if I could do this, but I did

00:18:13.640 it.

00:18:14.640 Quite a good problem to have.

00:18:15.640 Yeah.

00:18:16.640 It was, it was a good problem.

00:18:17.640 Yeah.

00:18:18.640 I was just like, it was like, just like the jet lag and flying and then performing and

00:18:21.640 like just like getting back.

00:18:23.640 And then I was just like, can I, can I do this for like six days straight?

00:18:26.640 And I know that like other people have, our other bands have probably done like more dates,

00:18:31.640 like back to back to back.

00:18:32.640 Um, I was just like.

00:18:33.640 Doesn't take from yours.

00:18:34.640 Yeah.

00:18:35.640 At all.

00:18:36.640 That is a lot to do.

00:18:37.640 Thank you.

00:18:38.640 And so I was just like, I don't, I don't know if I could do this, but I'm going to do

00:18:41.640 it.

00:18:42.640 Uh, and, um, I did it.

00:18:43.640 And you did.

00:18:44.640 Hell yeah.

00:18:45.640 I'm very proud of myself.

00:18:46.640 Cause I definitely, the first half of it was very like, I don't.

00:18:50.640 I don't.

00:18:51.640 Right.

00:18:52.640 I get it.

00:18:53.640 But I mean, I'm like, I look back.

00:18:55.640 I'm proud.

00:18:56.640 Would I do it again?

00:18:57.640 I don't know.

00:19:00.640 Hopefully.

00:19:01.640 Hopefully, but spiritually and physically, maybe not.

00:19:03.640 Yeah.

00:19:04.640 Right.

00:19:05.640 I get that.

00:19:06.640 That is, that is incredible.

00:19:08.640 Like performing is such a like taxing endeavor.

00:19:12.640 Like it's physically, spiritually, emotionally, all of it.

00:19:15.640 The fact that you were able to perform multiple days in a row for two huge acts and then also

00:19:20.640 perform to the level that you did.

00:19:22.640 Cause that was night two.

00:19:23.640 Was that in that same week?

00:19:24.640 Oh no.

00:19:25.640 That was like.

00:19:26.640 Different week.

00:19:27.640 Oh girl, you're tripping.

00:19:28.640 Different week.

00:19:29.640 But it was like, it was.

00:19:30.640 That's crazy then.

00:19:31.640 You had multiple weeks like that.

00:19:32.640 I came, I came back from, we had just finished Conan.

00:19:36.640 I'm like, okay, I got a couple.

00:19:37.640 It was like two days and it's like, okay, time to go back.

00:19:40.640 And I'm like.

00:19:41.640 Get back on that stage.

00:19:42.640 Yeah.

00:19:43.640 But no, I was like, I'm going to go back on that stage.

00:19:45.640 And you did. 0.99

00:19:46.640 And you killed. 0.80

00:19:47.640 That is incredible.

00:19:48.640 That is a huge feat.

00:19:49.640 Thank you so much.

00:19:50.640 How do you like touring?

00:19:51.640 Oh, hate it.

00:19:52.640 Absolutely.

00:19:53.640 Girl, me too.

00:19:54.640 And I'm so glad you said that.

00:19:55.640 Cause every time I asked people who tour, they're like, oh, I love it.

00:19:58.640 You're lying.

00:19:59.640 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

00:20:00.640 Liar. 0.97

00:20:01.640 We can't be the only ones who hate touring. 0.99

00:20:04.640 No, literally.

00:20:05.640 I just, I love meeting fans and I love performing for fans.

00:20:09.640 And that is exactly what I've said.

00:20:11.640 Yeah. 0.99

00:20:12.640 Everything in between ass. 1.00

00:20:14.640 Oh my God. 1.00

00:20:15.640 It sucks ass. 1.00

00:20:16.640 It sucks ass. 1.00

00:20:17.640 It's bad. 1.00

00:20:18.640 Yeah.

00:20:19.640 I mean, I'm with great people too.

00:20:20.640 Right.

00:20:21.640 And sometimes I'm just like, I, I was like, I know you feel the same way.

00:20:25.640 Cause I don't want to see your face.

00:20:26.640 Yeah.

00:20:27.640 It really, it really does get to a point where you're like, I need five from you.

00:20:30.640 Yeah.

00:20:31.640 I was like, I need.

00:20:32.640 Turn and face that way for a little bit.

00:20:33.640 I was like, I wish I had five days, but five minutes.

00:20:35.640 Yes.

00:20:36.640 I was like, please.

00:20:37.640 Um, but I mean, I was with good people.

00:20:40.640 I think I just was just like, I, wow.

00:20:43.640 It is.

00:20:44.640 It really, I've described it as like, it feels like you're living on the run.

00:20:47.640 Yeah.

00:20:48.640 Like, like someone's chasing me.

00:20:50.640 Exactly.

00:20:51.640 That's how it feels.

00:20:52.640 It feels like, yeah.

00:20:53.640 Like I'm running and I can never catch my breath.

00:20:55.640 Exactly.

00:20:56.640 Like the only time I have time to do anything is to like shower, change my underwear.

00:21:00.640 And then I got to get back on there. 0.89

00:21:01.640 And I'm like, and that's like, like I'm, I'm bullshit talking about it.

00:21:08.640 But like, all I do is like sit, sit down like this. 0.99

00:21:11.640 When I perform live, like I sit down like this and I just talk my shit for an hour straight. 0.99

00:21:16.640 Yours is way harder. 0.99

00:21:17.640 Nah.

00:21:18.640 So that's why I'm asking how is it?

00:21:19.640 Because like physically I'm sitting there and I'm like, God, I have to tell jokes for another hour.

00:21:23.640 But you're literally doing cartwheels on the stage.

00:21:26.640 Very different.

00:21:27.640 I don't know how you can tell jokes for it.

00:21:29.640 And like, are they like, like, do you do like a different bit?

00:21:32.640 Like every time.

00:21:33.640 Yeah.

00:21:34.640 Honestly, when I was on a long tour for my book and I was doing like live comedy.

00:21:38.640 Yeah.

00:21:39.640 We, the whole show is improv outside of like, we do like 10, 20 minutes in the beginning of just intro.

00:21:44.640 Like talk about what we saw that day, the city we're in, that kind of thing.

00:21:47.640 And then the next like 45 hour of it is like, we have a topic.

00:21:52.640 We have people submit stuff and then we just read them out loud and then riff for like, however long.

00:21:56.640 So like that's, it was a different show every night, but similar theme.

00:22:00.640 And I was like reusing bits in certain areas of the country.

00:22:04.640 Like I was like, well, this killed, so I'm going to use it again.

00:22:07.640 And then there were like certain jokes that like, for some reason would just absolutely murder a crowd in one city.

00:22:13.640 And then the next city over no laughs.

00:22:15.640 I'd be like, Oh, tabling that joke.

00:22:18.640 You guys don't like Planet of the Apes jokes.

00:22:20.640 Got it.

00:22:21.640 Oh, I hate when that happens.

00:22:23.640 I know.

00:22:24.640 Like you get like a dead city.

00:22:26.640 Right.

00:22:27.640 Yeah.

00:22:28.640 You're kind of like, okay.

00:22:29.640 In the room by myself.

00:22:30.640 Yeah.

00:22:31.640 But you at least like, or like, how'd I say it?

00:22:33.640 Like, I at least have a script, like kind of like with the songs.

00:22:36.640 Like I sing the same songs and stuff like that.

00:22:38.640 But I'm like, I can't imagine just like.

00:22:40.640 Well, that, that would make it harder for me, I think.

00:22:42.640 Really?

00:22:43.640 Because you're just performing.

00:22:44.640 Like, yeah.

00:22:45.640 Like, like the set is the set.

00:22:46.640 Like, if you guys aren't vibing with me, I still got to do the rest of the set.

00:22:52.640 Like you're with me for at least 30 minutes.

00:22:54.640 You're right.

00:22:55.640 Like at least mine, like at least mine, if they're not, if they're dead, like I'll find something to get them.

00:22:59.640 Like eventually, like, or I just start attacking them and then they find that funny.

00:23:03.640 Like, then they'll be like, ah, that's funny.

00:23:06.640 You know?

00:23:07.640 What's been the, can you like call out a city here?

00:23:09.640 Like what's been like the.

00:23:11.640 Like a not great city.

00:23:12.640 Yeah.

00:23:13.640 I'll share mine.

00:23:14.640 Oh yeah.

00:23:15.640 Please do.

00:23:16.640 Oh, me go first.

00:23:17.640 Let me think.

00:23:18.640 Um, it depends.

00:23:19.640 Like LA is great, but like, so I've done a couple shows in LA where sometimes, sometimes I feel like the bar is higher, like in cities where they're spoiled.

00:23:28.640 Right.

00:23:29.640 So like, so like New York, like LA, even like, I don't know, like what's another major, like San Francisco, like just like big major cities.

00:23:37.640 Like I think sometimes the crowds are a little like, like they're like, make me laugh harder than that.

00:23:42.640 Like a little bit, like they're a little stingy with the laughs, but like, um, I would say that was probably, I didn't have a, no, actually, you know what?

00:23:50.640 The worst Florida was Florida.

00:23:52.640 Really?

00:23:53.640 The great crowds in terms of laughs, but horrible in terms of just general manners.

00:23:57.640 Like, because everyone, those shows just so happened to be like Friday, Saturdays.

00:24:01.640 And like, you know, people get the drunkest on Friday, Saturdays.

00:24:04.640 Yeah.

00:24:05.640 And so there's like a bar in there.

00:24:06.640 And so they're like, that's when they start getting like, I want to heckle.

00:24:09.640 Like I want to yell.

00:24:10.640 I want to be a part of the show.

00:24:12.640 Like, so I would say Florida is probably like where I had the toughest crowds.

00:24:16.640 That's, and then like, I'm not even kidding.

00:24:18.640 One show I did. 0.97

00:24:19.640 I don't even fucking remember what city it was, but someone was being so rude and like talking too goddamn much. 0.98

00:24:24.640 Like, and it was driving me insane. 0.97

00:24:26.640 And I've like worked really hard to not be that person anymore.

00:24:28.640 So like I've been in therapy.

00:24:30.640 So I'm like trying to temper my anger.

00:24:32.640 Yeah.

00:24:33.640 But I'm doing the show with my sister and like, I like my sister was the first person I ever defended from bullies.

00:24:38.640 So like, I really hate when people are rude to her.

00:24:41.640 Yeah.

00:24:42.640 Especially.

00:24:43.640 And so like, every time my sister was trying to talk, there was someone in the back, like, just like, oh, yeah, yeah.

00:24:49.640 Like talking over her or like interrupting.

00:24:51.640 And it was like throwing off the flow of the show.

00:24:53.640 Yeah.

00:24:54.640 And then, and then we would have audience participation to some extent.

00:24:57.640 Like we'd ask them questions.

00:24:59.640 And so someone was interrupt, that same person interrupting again.

00:25:02.640 And then at one, that person in the audience was talking to me.

00:25:05.640 And then I went, can you pause really quick? 0.99

00:25:07.640 Who the fuck is talking? 0.99

00:25:09.640 And then I, and then the whole room got quiet. 1.00

00:25:11.640 And I said, shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:25:13.640 This is a show. 0.99

00:25:14.640 Thank you very much.

00:25:15.640 I'm sorry.

00:25:16.640 Go ahead.

00:25:17.640 No.

00:25:18.640 Did I go a little too hard?

00:25:19.640 No.

00:25:20.640 Probably.

00:25:21.640 And I was like, in personal life, no, but I did lose the room.

00:25:24.640 Oh.

00:25:25.640 Lost the room for about 20 minutes.

00:25:27.640 I was like, I had to earn their laughs back because then after that, it's like, they're too scared to keep talking.

00:25:32.640 Yeah.

00:25:33.640 So like, they're like watching almost like a hostage situation.

00:25:36.640 And I'm like, hey guys, guys, I know I kind of freaked out.

00:25:39.640 I bet.

00:25:40.640 Sorry about that.

00:25:41.640 But justified though.

00:25:42.640 You're right.

00:25:43.640 I think so.

00:25:44.640 I said, sorry guys.

00:25:46.640 I was like, I was a little too much.

00:25:48.640 Sorry about that.

00:25:49.640 What about you?

00:25:50.640 What was your worst one? 1.00

00:25:51.640 Damn. 0.99

00:25:52.640 I'm like, not to. 1.00

00:25:53.640 Okay.

00:25:54.640 So.

00:25:55.640 It's okay.

00:25:56.640 I'm like, I'm about to throw under the bus.

00:25:58.640 Sorry.

00:25:59.640 So on, I was like, when I was doing Conan's tour, I'd never performed at Cincinnati before.

00:26:05.640 And I did a, well, I had a song like with Cincinnati in it.

00:26:10.640 Like I like named, I named dropped them.

00:26:12.640 Okay.

00:26:13.640 And, um, and I was like, Oh, I'm gonna, it was like that, that one show.

00:26:18.640 I'm like, I want to do this song.

00:26:20.640 Cause I'm not going to do this song anywhere else.

00:26:21.640 So I want to do this song because I specifically say Cincinnati in this.

00:26:25.640 Yeah.

00:26:26.640 And so I go, I'm like, Oh, I like, this is going to be a great show.

00:26:29.640 Blah, blah, blah.

00:26:31.640 Like it was so I'm like, Oh my God.

00:26:38.640 And I did this song and like, they seem to like being named dropped, but it was just

00:26:42.640 like, Oh, and I was like, wow.

00:26:45.640 But also I feel that.

00:26:47.640 Okay.

00:26:48.640 So like, sometimes I, I, sometimes I put like, um, how do I say?

00:26:51.640 Like, I like do like, uh, like I put like a lot of makeup on my face and that day I did

00:26:57.640 like, I had like a pink corset.

00:26:58.640 So I'm like, Oh, I'm going to make my face pink.

00:27:00.640 So I did.

00:27:01.640 So I walked out there with like my pink corset and my pink face.

00:27:04.640 And like, I think people were just like, and I was just like, okay.

00:27:07.640 Boring.

00:27:08.640 Cincinnati's boring then.

00:27:10.640 They're boring.

00:27:11.640 I'm like, I'm sure. 1.00

00:27:12.640 Oh, a bitch can't get put a pink, a pink corset on with a pink face. 1.00

00:27:16.640 Oh, boring. 1.00

00:27:17.640 I'm like, I'm sure.

00:27:19.640 Like, I was like, maybe inside they felt some type, like they felt some type of way.

00:27:23.640 I don't know.

00:27:24.640 I did cry after that show.

00:27:25.640 Like I, it hurt me.

00:27:26.640 I'm so sorry.

00:27:27.640 I mean, like it, it happens.

00:27:29.640 Like it happens.

00:27:30.640 And I've interestingly have had worse shows.

00:27:33.640 So I'm like, you know what, this is, this is okay.

00:27:37.640 Like I'll win them over next time.

00:27:39.640 Yeah.

00:27:40.640 That's a them problem.

00:27:42.640 They're, they're late to the game.

00:27:44.640 And honestly, when I had Muna on.

00:27:46.640 Really?

00:27:47.640 And, um, have you met Muna?

00:27:48.640 Yeah.

00:27:49.640 I was, I think I've met everybody.

00:27:50.640 All three of them?

00:27:51.640 Yeah.

00:27:52.640 I was like, you guys, you're a manager.

00:27:54.640 I know.

00:27:55.640 I'm like, I think I've met everybody, but I was like, I meet Katie the most.

00:28:00.640 I'm like, I feel like I, I, yeah.

00:28:01.640 She's amazing.

00:28:02.640 Very, very cool.

00:28:03.640 They're all so funny and so amazing.

00:28:04.640 Yeah.

00:28:05.640 Yeah.

00:28:06.640 When I had them on, um, I talked to them about Taylor Swift's tour.

00:28:09.640 Really?

00:28:10.640 And they were like, oh, we started calling ourselves the hot dog act.

00:28:13.640 And I was like, oh, word.

00:28:14.640 And they said, yeah.

00:28:15.640 Cause you know, as soon as we come on, everyone goes and gets a hot dog.

00:28:19.640 No.

00:28:20.640 I was like, really?

00:28:21.640 They're like, I don't know if you've ever seen empty seats in a stadium before, but like a different kind of vibe, you know?

00:28:26.640 Oh no.

00:28:27.640 And I was laughing. 1.00

00:28:28.640 I was like, well, they don't know shit. 0.99

00:28:30.640 They don't know anything if they don't know Moon. 1.00

00:28:32.640 Are you crazy?

00:28:33.640 I was like, I love Moon.

00:28:34.640 I know.

00:28:35.640 Oh my gosh.

00:28:36.640 And that's, it was so funny.

00:28:37.640 So like, it's, you're right.

00:28:39.640 It is something that happens a lot, but it is one of those things where you're kind of like, all right.

00:28:44.640 Yeah.

00:28:45.640 Hey, my feelings are hurt.

00:28:46.640 Yeah.

00:28:47.640 Hey, love you though.

00:28:48.640 Love Ohio.

00:28:49.640 I love Ohio.

00:28:50.640 Like, just like, give me a little something, please.

00:28:54.640 Right.

00:28:55.640 No, seriously.

00:28:56.640 I did a show, like a comedy thing in New York once, and it wasn't like my standard kind of show.

00:29:05.640 So it was, it was a little bit of a different vibe, but all of that to say, cause I'm trying to be nondescript about it.

00:29:10.640 The, the audience was curated like to an extent, like they sold tickets to it.

00:29:16.640 It was a very specific kind of crowd.

00:29:18.640 Um, so when I did that show, like that show was like, it was good.

00:29:23.640 Like for the most part, I had the room.

00:29:25.640 Um, cause I was just doing standup and like, for the most part I had the room, but like, sometimes they were just not vibing.

00:29:33.640 And then like, obviously like when I, I sometimes would like specifically tailor my jokes to be like about men.

00:29:38.640 Cause like I make fun of men all the time and that's like my thing.

00:29:41.640 Period.

00:29:42.640 And so a lot of, a lot, a lot of girls come wanting to see men jokes, like men, man hating jokes.

00:29:46.640 Yeah.

00:29:47.640 Yeah.

00:29:48.640 I was like popping them off like one by one.

00:29:49.640 And then there was quite a few men in the audience.

00:29:51.640 And, uh, like some of them were literally like.

00:29:53.640 Yeah.

00:29:54.640 Yeah.

00:29:55.640 And I, and I even like, I did a little bit of crowd work, but like one of the jokes in the beginning, I said something, I was talking to one girl and then I was like, Oh, is this your man?

00:30:05.640 Like, are you, are y'all together?

00:30:06.640 And then the man, the, the dude got pissed because that wasn't his girlfriend.

00:30:10.640 That's his sister, which, and so they, and I go, I was like, Oh, is this your man?

00:30:15.640 And then he goes, no.

00:30:17.640 And like kind of talks loudly and goes, that's my sister. 1.00

00:30:20.640 That's my fucking sister. 1.00

00:30:21.640 Like he's pissed off at me. 1.00

00:30:22.640 Oh my God.

00:30:23.640 And I said, Oh my bad.

00:30:24.640 And then I said, well, also cause they were white. 0.75

00:30:27.640 Right.

00:30:28.640 And I was like, well, also y'all be doing that.

00:30:32.640 You guys do be doing that sometimes.

00:30:34.640 And so I won the room after I did that.

00:30:36.640 This dude was for real trying to press me.

00:30:38.640 And I was like, bro, I'm telling you.

00:30:39.640 Yeah.

00:30:40.640 Sorry.

00:30:41.640 My bad. 0.98

00:30:42.640 What do you think your sister's ugly? 1.00

00:30:46.640 I'm dead. 0.99

00:30:48.640 Don't answer that or do.

00:30:50.640 Let's see.

00:30:52.640 What's been the best show?

00:30:54.640 Like the most memorable, like, or the funnest or like one where you're like, I killed.

00:30:59.640 Whichever one.

00:31:01.640 Oh man.

00:31:03.640 Most memorable.

00:31:04.640 Most memorable.

00:31:05.640 I feel like, okay.

00:31:07.640 I feel like I w I was opening for Doja and it was, I think we were in Paris.

00:31:13.640 And like up until it's going to be, it's going to be a regular occurrence.

00:31:18.640 Like nobody really like, like no, nobody really knows me, but also like nobody really like, like sometimes like people are not fucking with the music like that. 0.77

00:31:25.640 And I feel like Europe, it was like, kind of like, but in Paris, for some reason, they really liked me in Paris.

00:31:37.640 Maybe they liked that.

00:31:38.640 The beats.

00:31:39.640 Yeah. 1.00

00:31:40.640 I was going to say, you would think Europeans would be fucking with you. 1.00

00:31:44.640 Yeah. 0.99

00:31:45.640 Cause the beats that you make are like very much so like what they like to listen to.

00:31:49.640 Yeah.

00:31:50.640 I was like, I thought I would, I thought I would hit them a little bit. 0.86

00:31:52.640 Right.

00:31:53.640 And so they were vibing hardcore.

00:31:54.640 They were vibing hardcore.

00:31:55.640 Love.

00:31:56.640 Like I got lights, like I got everything.

00:31:58.640 I was like, oh my gosh.

00:31:59.640 And like, usually I try to, cause I'm also a fan and I'm like, I want to see Doja before.

00:32:03.640 Cause if you haven't seen Doja before, so good.

00:32:06.640 I can't even imagine.

00:32:07.640 So, so good.

00:32:08.640 And so I'm like, I'mma go like in the audience and like, look.

00:32:11.640 And so I'm going and there's like, it was the first time a crowd of people were like,

00:32:14.640 following me and I'm like, oh, I have to go back.

00:32:17.640 I actually can't enjoy the show. 0.99

00:32:20.640 I was like, oh, I was like, oh shit. 0.99

00:32:23.640 Okay. 0.99

00:32:24.640 But it was, it was so much fun.

00:32:25.640 That's so cool.

00:32:26.640 It's nice getting reciprocations that cause then I can just like, I don't know.

00:32:30.640 I can just riff off and stuff like that.

00:32:32.640 Yeah.

00:32:33.640 And I also think too, it's like, that's the whole point of going to a concert.

00:32:37.640 Yeah.

00:32:38.640 Yeah.

00:32:39.640 Yeah.

00:32:40.640 Enjoy yourself.

00:32:41.640 Even if you're, even if you're unfamiliar with an act, like you're like, oh,

00:32:43.640 Yeah.

00:32:44.640 Yeah.

00:32:45.640 Yeah.

00:32:46.640 I'm livin' with this.

00:32:47.640 Literally.

00:32:48.640 How fun.

00:32:49.640 And in Paris too, it was so cool.

00:32:50.640 It was so cool. 0.99

00:32:51.640 But up until then I would just see a bunch of TikToks like, who is this bitch? 1.00

00:32:55.640 Like, what is that? 0.98

00:32:56.640 But like, it's interesting.

00:32:58.640 Cause I have like a, there's a side, particularly on TikTok that like really hate me.

00:33:03.640 And there's a side that will like go to the ends of the earth for me.

00:33:07.640 And you know what?

00:33:08.640 It was like, I love it.

00:33:10.640 Trust me.

00:33:11.640 I get that.

00:33:12.640 I love it.

00:33:13.640 If anyone understands that on that app, it's me.

00:33:16.640 It's me.

00:33:17.640 I was like, I love it.

00:33:18.640 Cause then I'm seeing like, you're not going to talk about my girl Hemlock like that.

00:33:22.640 I'm like, true.

00:33:23.640 Thank you.

00:33:24.640 And that's what you need.

00:33:25.640 Yeah.

00:33:26.640 Haters and diehards. 0.95

00:33:27.640 That's what you need.

00:33:28.640 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:29.640 I need both of them.

00:33:30.640 Yeah.

00:33:31.640 I was like, I need both.

00:33:32.640 Like I need both crowds.

00:33:33.640 Absolutely.

00:33:34.640 I was like, I love that.

00:33:35.640 Like that extreme reaction.

00:33:36.640 I love, I do love, like, even if it's like, I absolutely hate her.

00:33:40.640 You know what?

00:33:41.640 I love that I'm causing that reaction.

00:33:43.640 Yeah.

00:33:44.640 Well, art is meant to emote, like evoke something.

00:33:48.640 Yeah.

00:33:49.640 Exactly.

00:33:50.640 If it's hatred.

00:33:51.640 Well, first of all, you're a hater.

00:33:52.640 But second of all, that's the point.

00:33:53.640 Exactly.

00:33:54.640 It's the point.

00:33:55.640 It's quite literally my job.

00:33:56.640 And I think that's the beautiful thing about your artistry too, because I feel like artists

00:34:01.640 like you, like that is the point is to create.

00:34:03.640 Yeah.

00:34:04.640 The point is not to like get famous.

00:34:05.640 Yeah.

00:34:06.640 It's not to like go viral.

00:34:07.640 The point is to create something.

00:34:09.640 Yeah.

00:34:10.640 Like you're creating something so unique and special to you.

00:34:12.640 Thank you.

00:34:13.640 That you're being co-signed by these enormous, talented artists, right?

00:34:17.640 Awesome.

00:34:18.640 Ones who are all one of one brains.

00:34:19.640 Yeah.

00:34:20.640 Like all the artists that you're naming that have co-signed you are like revolutionizing

00:34:23.640 the music industry because they're doing something completely different.

00:34:26.640 Oh yeah.

00:34:27.640 Oh yeah. 1.00

00:34:28.640 And that's the track you're on bitch. 1.00

00:34:29.640 Period. 1.00

00:34:30.640 Thank you.

00:34:31.640 That's a wonderful thing.

00:34:32.640 Thank you. 1.00

00:34:33.640 And also like the people who hate you on TikTok, first of all, fuck that. 1.00

00:34:35.640 I'm dead. 0.99

00:34:36.640 But second of all, it's fun to hate things for them.

00:34:38.640 It is.

00:34:39.640 People who are different.

00:34:40.640 Yeah.

00:34:41.640 When, when people are different and very unique and like their approach to whatever medium

00:34:44.640 is popular, like movies, TV shows, music, like they're, of course, they're going to

00:34:49.640 be like, what is this?

00:34:50.640 I don't know if I can get it. 1.00

00:34:51.640 And I get the same shit to this day. 0.99

00:34:53.640 I still have people telling me, I don't understand like her thing. 0.99

00:34:57.640 It's not for you to understand.

00:34:58.640 I'm dead.

00:34:59.640 I'm dead. 0.91

00:35:00.640 It's okay.

00:35:01.640 And part of it is definitely racism, but I, um, yeah, I was like adding it on there,

00:35:09.640 but I'm like, you know what?

00:35:10.640 You do you, you know what I mean?

00:35:12.640 And if anything that speaks to your artistry also, because above all you rise, right?

00:35:18.640 Like you're still, you're still succeeding.

00:35:20.640 Even with all these invisible barriers in place too.

00:35:23.640 Yeah. 1.00

00:35:24.640 You're still fucking, you're still fucking doing it. 1.00

00:35:26.640 Yes. 1.00

00:35:27.640 Period.

00:35:28.640 Do what you gotta do.

00:35:29.640 Yeah.

00:35:30.640 I get, I get being polarizing. 1.00

00:35:31.640 I'm very polarizing on that stupid app too. 1.00

00:35:33.640 On that God forsaken app. 1.00

00:35:35.640 I'm also very polarizing on there.

00:35:37.640 But I love it though.

00:35:38.640 I was like, I love, I love, but I was like, it shouldn't be that polarizing.

00:35:43.640 You know what I mean?

00:35:44.640 Right.

00:35:45.640 But if it is, then I love it.

00:35:46.640 You know what I mean?

00:35:47.640 I usually do.

00:35:48.640 So yeah.

00:35:49.640 And that's honestly like all the people you know, that's how they all found me.

00:35:51.640 Yeah.

00:35:52.640 Was on, was being polarizing as hell on that app.

00:35:53.640 That's why you're here.

00:35:54.640 So.

00:35:55.640 That's how they found you.

00:35:56.640 Clearly something's working.

00:35:58.640 Exactly.

00:35:59.640 Exactly.

00:36:00.640 What's, uh, what's been the coolest, like, or like best piece of advice you've gotten

00:36:04.640 from all these amazing people that have been working with you?

00:36:07.640 Oh man.

00:36:08.640 I, I feel like it was, I don't know who said it either.

00:36:12.640 Oh, my B.

00:36:13.640 Um, common thread.

00:36:15.640 It stuck with me.

00:36:16.640 Yeah.

00:36:17.640 It stuck with me.

00:36:18.640 Um, but it was, it was such like, um, I feel like it's such like, like, yeah.

00:36:24.640 Like, uh, I feel like if I say this, it's putting kind of gonna put the person under

00:36:28.640 the bus, but I don't mean it in that way.

00:36:30.640 It's like, it's like things that I should know, but I feel like it's like, yeah. 0.84

00:36:34.640 Like, like, like, like almost like a, like a dumb moment for me.

00:36:39.640 And it was just quite literally like, you need to keep doing what you're doing. 0.92

00:36:43.640 You need to keep being yourself.

00:36:45.640 Yeah.

00:36:46.640 And I think that it, but I think it was given at a time where I was like, cause I got a

00:36:52.640 lot of the, Oh, like she's this like weird, quirky girl and stuff like that.

00:36:55.640 And at first I was like, kind of like, you know, like, yeah, blah, blah, blah.

00:36:58.640 And then I'm like, Oh, Oh, like, am I really that?

00:37:03.640 Am I really, am I really?

00:37:05.640 Yeah.

00:37:06.640 Yeah.

00:37:07.640 Sorry.

00:37:08.640 The second guess a little bit.

00:37:09.640 Um, and I, it's, it's interesting too.

00:37:10.640 Cause it's like, I don't really, I was like, I don't view myself and like other people's

00:37:15.640 perspective, but I think like, then I was like really, really letting it get to me.

00:37:19.640 Um, and I think like it being like, you know, you keep doing your, yourself and that's really

00:37:25.640 all you can do in this world.

00:37:27.640 I'm like, you know what?

00:37:29.640 Yeah.

00:37:30.640 Absolutely.

00:37:31.640 Yeah.

00:37:34.640 Well, it feels obvious, but it's not as easy to think about in the moment.

00:37:38.640 Yeah.

00:37:39.640 When you're in that feeling.

00:37:40.640 Definitely.

00:37:41.640 I'm like, why am I thinking so hard on this?

00:37:43.640 This is not, I would rather like this energy that I'm using to kind of like go down this

00:37:48.640 rabbit hole.

00:37:49.640 I could spend like doing a song or like doing something else.

00:37:52.640 I don't know.

00:37:53.640 It's also, it's very true.

00:37:55.640 And also the fact that it speaks to why you've succeeded is because it's authentic to

00:38:00.640 you.

00:38:01.640 I've been many a person who have tried on different like looks and different things

00:38:06.640 to try and be different, like quirky, unique, like fake, a fake kind of court.

00:38:10.640 Yeah.

00:38:11.640 Yeah.

00:38:12.640 The reason why yours is working is because it is authentic to you and audiences are not 0.90

00:38:15.640 stupid. 0.90

00:38:16.640 Right. 1.00

00:38:17.640 Like, especially now in the age of like TikTok audiences are so like hyper focused on shit 0.99

00:38:22.640 like that. 0.97

00:38:23.640 There's no way that they would be uplifting you if they thought for a second it was fake.

00:38:28.640 People who are claiming it's fake are just again, haters.

00:38:31.640 Right.

00:38:32.640 But you know, you know what you like and you know who you really are.

00:38:34.640 Yeah.

00:38:35.640 And in those moments too, it's hard to not feel like maybe I should change something or

00:38:38.640 maybe something, or maybe I should just not do this because it doesn't feel good to hear

00:38:42.640 that stuff, especially when you're being perceived on the internet.

00:38:45.640 Like it's the internet has a way of ruining anything like or making everything awesome.

00:38:51.640 Like those are the only two things like it does.

00:38:54.640 And like when it starts to make you think more about yourself, that's when you're like,

00:38:58.640 you know what?

00:38:59.640 I need to get off my phone.

00:39:00.640 Yeah.

00:39:01.640 Go spend time in the real world and remind myself why I'm doing what I'm doing.

00:39:05.640 Yeah.

00:39:06.640 But I'm glad you and I'm assuming and I'm hoping that you have a very good like support

00:39:09.640 system.

00:39:10.640 Oh yeah.

00:39:11.640 No, definitely.

00:39:12.640 Who support your artistry and your art.

00:39:13.640 No, definitely.

00:39:14.640 And I have people really ruling for me and I think that that helps a lot.

00:39:19.640 Hell yeah.

00:39:20.640 Just like when people understand you and your project and just what you're trying to do,

00:39:25.640 it helps tremendously.

00:39:26.640 Yeah.

00:39:27.640 And that's something that I think that is just, it's just important for like every artist

00:39:32.640 to like just have a good support system around you.

00:39:34.640 Right.

00:39:35.640 Because when you don't, it's really evidence.

00:39:37.640 Like when you, it takes a toll on like everybody and yourself.

00:39:41.640 That's so true.

00:39:42.640 Like nobody, how do I say?

00:39:44.640 Like nobody really, it's like no words really happy.

00:39:47.640 Like, I don't know.

00:39:48.640 Right.

00:39:49.640 You're, you're so real for that.

00:39:50.640 Cause I felt the same way when I started doing this and I like tell people all the time

00:39:54.640 to make friends in the, in the, like make community here, like in this industry, because

00:39:59.640 it's hard to relate to your problems once you start doing this.

00:40:02.640 But also it's like, without support system, I see now I'm like, I get why people go nuts.

00:40:07.640 Yeah.

00:40:08.640 That's what I was like.

00:40:09.640 I was like, I get it.

00:40:11.640 I get it.

00:40:12.640 I will never judge.

00:40:13.640 I'm so sorry.

00:40:14.640 No, I've said the same thing.

00:40:17.640 I've literally been like, I remember as a kid being like, well, I mean, you're rich and famous.

00:40:21.640 I'm sure it's fine.

00:40:22.640 Yeah.

00:40:23.640 No, literally. 1.00

00:40:24.640 And now I'm like, damn. 0.99

00:40:25.640 I get it. 0.99

00:40:26.640 I get it.

00:40:27.640 I understand.

00:40:28.640 I'm sorry for judging.

00:40:29.640 Especially women. 1.00

00:40:30.640 Yeah.

00:40:31.640 Especially women. 1.00

00:40:32.640 I was like, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

00:40:34.640 Makes a lot of sense.

00:40:35.640 I get it.

00:40:36.640 So I don't think I would not have survived in the, I mean, it's still prevalent, but like

00:40:41.640 the whole, like, oh, like if you're a, like you're, if you're a size like two or three or

00:40:47.640 whatever, like you're fat. 0.89

00:40:48.640 Right.

00:40:49.640 If you're like, whatchamacallit, like that whole, just criticizing the looks, criticizing

00:40:54.640 the, I'm like, wow.

00:40:55.640 I know in like the early 2000s.

00:40:57.640 Yeah.

00:40:58.640 That culture.

00:40:59.640 I'm like, oh, girl.

00:41:00.640 I was like, you're lucky any of them made it out alive.

00:41:02.640 Now that I, for real, I talk about it in therapy a lot.

00:41:06.640 Really?

00:41:07.640 Yeah.

00:41:08.640 Because I, because I truly believe now I am like suffering from agoraphobia to some extent.

00:41:11.640 Oh man.

00:41:12.640 Just because like being perceived on that level is something I never prepared for, could

00:41:17.640 have never prepared for.

00:41:18.640 Yeah.

00:41:19.640 In person and stuff.

00:41:20.640 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:21.640 So like, I've been working through that in therapy for years.

00:41:23.640 No diagnoses, no arrivals just yet, working on its tail.

00:41:27.640 Um, but I remember my therapist told me this once when I was like, I was describing to 0.61

00:41:31.640 her that sometimes, uh, the like visibility I have and like in, in public and shit like 0.83

00:41:37.640 that, uh, makes me feel like a monkey in the zoo. 0.91

00:41:40.640 And I was telling her and it feels like, you know, they can jeer at me and yell at me and 1.00

00:41:45.640 throw shit at me and like hit my glass hard as shit. 0.99

00:41:48.640 And I was like, and then like when I like, can't take it anymore, I like charge the glass 1.00

00:41:52.640 a little too much.

00:41:53.640 And then they put me behind, they like dark me from the side and then put me behind that

00:41:57.640 wall.

00:41:58.640 And then I'm not allowed to be on display anymore for a couple of weeks.

00:42:00.640 And I was like, and it's making me feel like I'm going insane.

00:42:03.640 Like I was like, I feel like I'm going insane.

00:42:05.640 And then she was like, well, you know, that makes sense because like we were kind of working

00:42:10.640 through what makes me feel that way.

00:42:12.640 Yeah. 0.99

00:42:13.640 And I was just talking about the internet and being perceived on it and all that shit. 0.96

00:42:16.640 And then she was like, well, that makes sense. 0.99

00:42:17.640 You know, because when you're damned, if you do damned, if you don't, when you're presented

00:42:20.640 with that, uh, morality choice over and over and over again, those are called double binds.

00:42:25.640 Right.

00:42:26.640 And she goes, and honestly, like, you know, clinically and like statistically those, when

00:42:30.640 you encounter frequent double binds, um, it is known to induce psychosis, especially

00:42:35.640 in women.

00:42:36.640 Whoa.

00:42:37.640 And she said, especially in women. 0.98

00:42:38.640 Especially in women. 1.00

00:42:39.640 And then I said, and she goes, so we'll work through that.

00:42:43.640 I was like, oh, so I feel insane.

00:42:45.640 Cause I am going insane.

00:42:47.640 I have to make a couple of calls.

00:42:50.640 That worked though.

00:42:51.640 Oh my God.

00:42:52.640 And I was like, it was like weirdly validating, but it does start to make you feel like kooky.

00:42:57.640 Yeah.

00:42:58.640 After a while, like the bow, especially now that we're doing it in this era where like,

00:43:02.640 we're constantly being perceived, not as a, just as a performer, but as like a person

00:43:08.640 to like, everyone just feels like, cause they know you from the internet.

00:43:11.640 Yeah.

00:43:12.640 They know you as a person.

00:43:13.640 Yeah.

00:43:14.640 So they're like, I know exactly who you are and I know everything about your morals.

00:43:16.640 And yeah, I think you're a bad person. 1.00

00:43:18.640 I can't take that shit, bro. 1.00

00:43:20.640 Oh my God. 1.00

00:43:21.640 Yeah.

00:43:22.640 It happened.

00:43:23.640 It's crazy.

00:43:24.640 And I, so that's why I, I feel you.

00:43:26.640 I'm glad we can have community on that. 0.99

00:43:29.640 Two bitches going crazy together. 1.00

00:43:32.640 Love it. 1.00

00:43:33.640 Hey.

00:43:34.640 Hey.

00:43:37.640 Bound to happen.

00:43:38.640 Bound to, but I was like, but I'm glad that, um, I was like, I need to, I need to

00:43:43.640 do therapy.

00:43:44.640 I haven't, I'm not in therapy.

00:43:45.640 Oh, I know.

00:43:46.640 I have to, I have to, but I didn't either.

00:43:48.640 Like the first, like, I think like year and a half I was doing this.

00:43:51.640 I was free balling it.

00:43:52.640 Yeah.

00:43:53.640 And then I was like, I want to rip my eyelids off.

00:43:56.640 Maybe I should go to therapy.

00:43:58.640 I gotta do something about this.

00:44:01.640 I need intervention immediately.

00:44:03.640 Oh my God.

00:44:04.640 Yeah.

00:44:05.640 But that is something I tell people all the time, especially if you do this, like if

00:44:09.640 you're like famous or known in any way, shape or form.

00:44:12.640 Yeah.

00:44:13.640 Go to therapy.

00:44:14.640 Yeah.

00:44:15.640 You need it.

00:44:16.640 I need to implement this.

00:44:17.640 Yeah.

00:44:18.640 It's like, it's really nice.

00:44:19.640 It's nice.

00:44:20.640 And it's a nice place where you can like offload all of your anxieties and fears and like disdain

00:44:25.640 with the industry in a way that doesn't, you know, come up like, cause my thing was that

00:44:30.640 I worked through in therapy a lot.

00:44:31.640 It's like when I do talk about what I do struggle with doing this for a living, it feels, well,

00:44:36.640 it doesn't, it doesn't feel like it. 0.87

00:44:37.640 I've seen people say it before where they're like, you sound fucking ungrateful, which is

00:44:41.640 like, I already struggle with that guilt because I am very grateful, but I also am being tortured 0.90

00:44:46.640 mentally in ways I could have never prepared for.

00:44:49.640 Yeah.

00:44:50.640 Yeah.

00:44:51.640 Let's split the difference.

00:44:52.640 Yeah.

00:44:53.640 A big like meat in the middle.

00:44:54.640 Yeah.

00:44:55.640 Different set of problems you're encountering.

00:44:56.640 Right.

00:44:57.640 Right.

00:44:58.640 I'm sure like, I was like, maybe like, I don't know.

00:45:00.640 I was like, cause I, I, I see a lot, or maybe I'm trying to think artist wise.

00:45:04.640 So like people, people I've been like, Oh, like you have like money and stuff like that.

00:45:08.640 You have this.

00:45:09.640 Like, yes, you do.

00:45:10.640 And it was like, and that offsets a lot.

00:45:12.640 Right.

00:45:13.640 But there's also other problems that come up that like, you just might not be equipped

00:45:18.640 to, to handle.

00:45:19.640 To handle and process.

00:45:20.640 Yeah.

00:45:21.640 Yeah.

00:45:22.640 Absolutely.

00:45:23.640 And again, if you don't have the support system, it just, it quite literally is downhill.

00:45:28.640 Yeah.

00:45:29.640 And that's why when you're like, I get it.

00:45:31.640 I was like, I get it too.

00:45:33.640 I get it.

00:45:34.640 I was like, clapped.

00:45:35.640 Yeah.

00:45:36.640 I was like, wow.

00:45:37.640 My empathy has only grown for famous women, especially as I've spent more time doing this. 0.98

00:45:42.640 Like my empathy is fast.

00:45:43.640 Yeah.

00:45:44.640 I'm like, Oh yeah.

00:45:45.640 I'm like, man, especially girls have been doing it for a long time.

00:45:48.640 Long time.

00:45:49.640 Yeah.

00:45:50.640 I was like, you are under that microscope.

00:45:51.640 For real girl.

00:45:52.640 I'm like, you're better than me.

00:45:53.640 And you never get, it was like, never gets out.

00:45:56.640 Yeah.

00:45:57.640 Just always like on a slide.

00:45:58.640 And then I'm just like, Oh wow.

00:46:00.640 That is, that is, that's a lot.

00:46:03.640 Yeah.

00:46:04.640 Exactly.

00:46:05.640 Well, I'm happy to hear you're like supported and you have, you have a good network around

00:46:08.640 you.

00:46:09.640 I'm so happy to hear that.

00:46:10.640 Great friends.

00:46:11.640 I was like, great team.

00:46:12.640 Pretty chill.

00:46:13.640 That's great.

00:46:14.640 Oh, thank God.

00:46:15.640 You're too, you're too talented to not have any less.

00:46:18.640 You need that.

00:46:19.640 Okay.

00:46:20.640 So I do have some fun facts about you.

00:46:22.640 Oh man.

00:46:23.640 And everyone's, everyone's most nerve wracking part of the show.

00:46:27.640 I'm like, God, I guess you'll tell me if they're fun.

00:46:31.640 You'll let me know.

00:46:32.640 Okay.

00:46:33.640 Okay.

00:46:34.640 Okay.

00:46:35.640 Fun facts.

00:46:36.640 Well, this first one we did already talk about, which was that you have a bachelor's degree

00:46:39.640 in biology and a master's in medical informatics.

00:46:42.640 Yeah.

00:46:43.640 From Dartmouth.

00:46:44.640 Yeah.

00:46:45.640 Yeah.

00:46:46.640 Smart, smart, smart, smart, smart, smart.

00:46:47.640 That's all I heard when I read that.

00:46:48.640 Okay.

00:46:49.640 This next one says you once did research on the color variation between leopard geckos and

00:46:53.640 lemon frost geckos.

00:46:54.640 I did. 0.99

00:46:55.640 Holy shit. 1.00

00:46:56.640 I did. 1.00

00:46:57.640 I did.

00:46:58.640 I think at UCLA.

00:46:59.640 UCLA.

00:47:00.640 Yeah.

00:47:01.640 Yes.

00:47:02.640 UCLA summer internship, 2019. 0.62

00:47:03.640 What the hell?

00:47:06.640 How do you guys know that? 1.00

00:47:08.640 That is so fucking cool. 0.97

00:47:11.640 It was cool. 0.98

00:47:12.640 It was like one of the, I'm like, it was, it was actually like, cause it was my first

00:47:16.640 time in LA and I really liked LA when I first like got here.

00:47:19.640 I was like, well, I was in like different, different time.

00:47:22.640 That's the, that's the allure of before you live here.

00:47:25.640 Yeah.

00:47:26.640 Yeah.

00:47:27.640 Yeah.

00:47:28.640 I'm like, I did.

00:47:29.640 I was like, and I had no clue what I was doing and I was just like, Oh my God.

00:47:32.640 And my, um, my, like my lab partner at the time, Ryan shout out to Ryan, like was helping

00:47:38.640 me nonstop.

00:47:39.640 I felt so bad, but I was, I was well versed in like the biology aspect, but not really in

00:47:44.640 like doing the analysis.

00:47:46.640 And I was like, yeah, but I loved it.

00:47:49.640 Did you, do you like animals?

00:47:51.640 No, no, no.

00:47:56.640 Well, I'll study them.

00:47:57.640 Yeah.

00:47:58.640 Cause I don't like, I just generally ask if you like them and you're all no, that's fair.

00:48:07.640 Yeah.

00:48:08.640 And honestly, my fiance would geek about that fact because he, he loves animals, but especially

00:48:12.640 like reptiles and insects.

00:48:14.640 Really?

00:48:15.640 So he loves geckos. 1.00

00:48:16.640 When I tell him that he's like, which kind?

00:48:18.640 Leopard?

00:48:19.640 Like he's so, he's so that kind of, what kind, what species?

00:48:23.640 Like he knows, he just loves animals.

00:48:25.640 But that's why I was like, that's sick though.

00:48:27.640 What a cool internship.

00:48:29.640 Did you enjoy doing that research?

00:48:31.640 Hmm.

00:48:32.640 I enjoyed the, I enjoyed the internship.

00:48:37.640 Yeah.

00:48:38.640 The experience of the internship.

00:48:39.640 Yeah.

00:48:40.640 I don't know about the research, but the experience was very nice.

00:48:44.640 That is such a cool, fun fact. 0.97

00:48:47.640 Honestly, it's fucking insane. 0.98

00:48:49.640 All yours being smarty pants ones. 0.99

00:48:51.640 Okay.

00:48:52.640 Uh, it says you once won a pet goldfish at a church fair that died the next day.

00:48:56.640 It died the next day.

00:48:58.640 And that, did I say that so barely?

00:49:01.640 Canon event.

00:49:02.640 Canon event.

00:49:03.640 I fear.

00:49:04.640 Really?

00:49:05.640 I fear that's a Canon event.

00:49:06.640 You've also won a pet goldfish at church that died the next day.

00:49:09.640 I did.

00:49:10.640 Yeah.

00:49:11.640 But it was a church carnival.

00:49:12.640 A church carnival.

00:49:13.640 Wow.

00:49:14.640 I'm starting to think we're the same person.

00:49:15.640 I was like.

00:49:16.640 Uh oh.

00:49:17.640 Getting a little nervous.

00:49:19.640 I was like, maybe they just have weak lifespan.

00:49:22.640 Weak lifespan.

00:49:23.640 Short lifespan.

00:49:24.640 Yeah, they do.

00:49:25.640 Well, weak too, apparently.

00:49:26.640 Yeah.

00:49:27.640 Clearly not a very good immune system.

00:49:28.640 No, literally.

00:49:29.640 No, you're, you're so right for that though.

00:49:30.640 Were you sad?

00:49:31.640 Yeah, but I was like.

00:49:32.640 Or you just don't really care for animals?

00:49:34.640 I mean.

00:49:35.640 It was like, I wanted to care for animals, but I feel like then I was just like, it's

00:49:39.640 just not in the cards for me.

00:49:40.640 That's T.

00:49:41.640 Yeah.

00:49:42.640 I get that.

00:49:43.640 Yeah.

00:49:44.640 I feel that way about a lot of, like a lot of animals.

00:49:45.640 I say, I'm laughing at you saying that, but like, if you were to ask me how many, what

00:49:48.640 animals I don't like.

00:49:49.640 Yes.

00:49:50.640 I'd have a, I'd have an insanely long list.

00:49:52.640 Like there's like, I say like, not me, I love the animals, but a lot of them scare

00:49:57.640 me and I don't like them.

00:49:58.640 Yeah.

00:49:59.640 No, I was like, let's conserve the, but conserve, but also.

00:50:02.640 Oh, yeah.

00:50:03.640 But I have a very, I have a similar, I think like, like relationship to like sea creatures

00:50:08.640 or like birds, which are like, they, they scare me all the most.

00:50:12.640 Me.

00:50:13.640 I would say like, my relationship with them is very like, I don't want any problems.

00:50:17.640 Mmm.

00:50:18.640 I, I don't want to harm you.

00:50:19.640 I, I wish you the best.

00:50:20.640 I know.

00:50:21.640 Like, I just know my place is on land and away from you.

00:50:24.640 Yes.

00:50:25.640 Like that's all I know.

00:50:26.640 Yes.

00:50:27.640 And I.

00:50:28.640 No beef.

00:50:29.640 I.

00:50:30.640 That's why I feel like I respect you.

00:50:31.640 I feel that a hundred percent.

00:50:33.640 Yeah.

00:50:34.640 Yeah.

00:50:35.640 You're like, I don't hate you.

00:50:36.640 I don't want anyone.

00:50:37.640 I don't want you to die.

00:50:38.640 I just like, don't want to be near you.

00:50:39.640 Exactly.

00:50:40.640 I get that.

00:50:41.640 And honestly, if you get near me, you might, which is why I'm like, don't.

00:50:44.640 Don't make me do that.

00:50:45.640 Don't make me do this.

00:50:47.640 I don't want to.

00:50:48.640 You're going to turn me into a monster.

00:50:50.640 Yeah.

00:50:51.640 I get that.

00:50:52.640 Really.

00:50:53.640 That's true.

00:50:54.640 Okay.

00:50:55.640 This next one says that, um, you, you have said that your style inspiration is Miss Frizzle.

00:51:00.640 I love Miss Frizzle. 0.59

00:51:01.640 Yeah.

00:51:02.640 Oh my gosh.

00:51:03.640 It's just so underrated.

00:51:04.640 So.

00:51:05.640 That is so T.

00:51:06.640 I love that.

00:51:07.640 Do I give Miss Frizzle right now? 1.00

00:51:08.640 Yes.

00:51:09.640 Absolutely.

00:51:10.640 Oh, honestly, you know what I was thinking of, um, with your look right now?

00:51:13.640 It's like monster high.

00:51:14.640 Really?

00:51:15.640 I love like a monster high doll.

00:51:16.640 Like, you know what I'm saying?

00:51:17.640 Oh man. 0.62

00:51:18.640 Like a cunty little outfit.

00:51:19.640 Thank you. 1.00

00:51:20.640 I give cunt. 1.00

00:51:21.640 Yes. 1.00

00:51:22.640 That's all you've served since you came in here.

00:51:24.640 Really?

00:51:25.640 I'm full.

00:51:28.640 Thank you.

00:51:29.640 Oh, I'm taking that compliment.

00:51:30.640 Yes.

00:51:31.640 Oh my God.

00:51:32.640 Yes.

00:51:33.640 I love my personality.

00:51:34.640 Did you like, uh, the magic school bus?

00:51:35.640 You know, I found it creepy the first time.

00:51:38.640 I, I get that.

00:51:39.640 I was like, but I think the first episode I watched was the one, like they went inside

00:51:44.640 one of the student's body.

00:51:45.640 Yeah.

00:51:46.640 And I was just like, this feels so invasive.

00:51:48.640 This is so weird, but I mean.

00:51:50.640 Without consent.

00:51:51.640 Yeah.

00:51:52.640 Nice.

00:51:53.640 But, but I mean, I, I, I, I support, I support.

00:51:58.640 You like her aura though.

00:51:59.640 I like her aura.

00:52:00.640 Yeah.

00:52:01.640 What she's serving.

00:52:02.640 Yeah.

00:52:03.640 I love that too.

00:52:04.640 Yeah.

00:52:05.640 You know what else you remind me of?

00:52:06.640 Fancy Nancy.

00:52:07.640 Wait, no.

00:52:08.640 It's like a children's book and she loves like accessories.

00:52:11.640 Does she have the scarf?

00:52:12.640 Or am I?

00:52:13.640 Yes.

00:52:14.640 She has a scarf.

00:52:15.640 Yeah.

00:52:16.640 She wears like tutus. 0.98

00:52:17.640 Yeah.

00:52:18.640 Yeah.

00:52:19.640 Yeah.

00:52:20.640 I love that.

00:52:21.640 Thank you.

00:52:22.640 I love that you love Miss Frizzle.

00:52:23.640 Like that's your inspo. 0.98

00:52:24.640 That's so sick. 0.98

00:52:25.640 Oh yeah.

00:52:26.640 Oh yeah.

00:52:27.640 And she loved a theme.

00:52:28.640 I know.

00:52:29.640 She loved a theme.

00:52:30.640 She loved a theme.

00:52:31.640 And earrings always match theme.

00:52:32.640 Literally.

00:52:33.640 Love it.

00:52:34.640 I was like, my earrings match my leg.

00:52:37.640 Period.

00:52:38.640 Okay.

00:52:39.640 Miss Frizzle. 1.00

00:52:40.640 Well, I've never seen you and Miss Frizzle in the same room.

00:52:41.640 So.

00:52:42.640 Uh, uh, uh.

00:52:43.640 At the same time.

00:52:44.640 Oh yeah.

00:52:45.640 Oh yeah.

00:52:46.640 Cut me.

00:52:47.640 Cut me.

00:52:48.640 Okay.

00:52:49.640 Last, uh, fun fact.

00:52:51.640 Amanda. 1.00

00:52:52.640 This stupid one. 1.00

00:52:53.640 She wrote, you are both retired fan fiction writers. 1.00

00:52:57.640 That's a fun fact about me too.

00:52:59.640 Not really.

00:53:00.640 I've talked about it before.

00:53:01.640 But.

00:53:02.640 It's actually funny you say that.

00:53:03.640 You've dabbled?

00:53:04.640 I, I just, this week, looked on my Wattpad account.

00:53:09.640 And I was like, and I was like, I was taking stuff down.

00:53:13.640 I'm like, I am not.

00:53:14.640 You said, God forbid they find this.

00:53:16.640 No, literally.

00:53:17.640 I'm like, please, please.

00:53:18.640 I was trying to start like a book series.

00:53:20.640 I'm like, please.

00:53:21.640 They can't.

00:53:22.640 And my real name is on it.

00:53:23.640 I'm like, please.

00:53:24.640 They cannot find.

00:53:25.640 I was like, they cannot find this.

00:53:26.640 And so I was taking everything down. 0.99

00:53:28.640 Damn. 0.98

00:53:29.640 But it's very funny. 0.99

00:53:30.640 Very.

00:53:31.640 It just happened.

00:53:32.640 It just happened.

00:53:33.640 So I'm like.

00:53:34.640 Okay.

00:53:35.640 What were you, what were you like?

00:53:36.640 What was your inspo?

00:53:37.640 What was my inspo?

00:53:38.640 Like, what were you writing fan fiction about?

00:53:39.640 Like anyone famous book characters?

00:53:41.640 I will never tell.

00:53:42.640 Oh no.

00:53:43.640 Really?

00:53:44.640 Oh no.

00:53:45.640 Oh my God.

00:53:46.640 Oh my gosh.

00:53:47.640 Okay.

00:53:48.640 Give me a general theme.

00:53:49.640 Was it like a celebrity or was it like TV show or something?

00:53:52.640 I feel like, I feel like, I was like, the problem is I've written multiple.

00:54:00.640 So.

00:54:01.640 Okay.

00:54:02.640 Pick the one you're least embarrassed about to tell me.

00:54:03.640 The least embarrassed about.

00:54:04.640 You don't have to tell me the subject, but you could tell me like a clue.

00:54:08.640 And it was, it was a TV show.

00:54:11.640 It was like, I watched, there's this, oh man, I'm really going to out myself.

00:54:15.640 Okay.

00:54:16.640 So there's like.

00:54:17.640 We love fan fiction writers here.

00:54:18.640 Really?

00:54:19.640 Oh, I've talked extensively about my fan fiction.

00:54:20.640 Really?

00:54:21.640 I'll tell you all about mine.

00:54:22.640 Yeah.

00:54:23.640 But you first.

00:54:24.640 You first.

00:54:25.640 So like, I just watched, like my, my friend recently had my friend.

00:54:29.640 No, I discovered it for myself.

00:54:31.640 I got into, when I was back at Spelman, there was this something that came up on my YouTube

00:54:37.640 and it was called, oh, something with a string, but it was like this BL series, you know, BL?

00:54:42.640 No.

00:54:43.640 BL is Boys Love.

00:54:44.640 Got you.

00:54:45.640 Got you.

00:54:46.640 Got you.

00:54:47.640 Got you.

00:54:48.640 It's like this, what's the call?

00:54:49.640 It's, it's how it sounds like two, two guys just loving each other.

00:54:52.640 Tea.

00:54:53.640 And so it was like, it was something with this until we meet again.

00:54:55.640 That's the name of it.

00:54:56.640 Okay.

00:54:57.640 So I remember like going, like, I love this show.

00:55:02.640 Like I, every, like, I forget when it will come on YouTube, but I would, I would order

00:55:07.640 some food and I would go down, like there was this computer room in my dorm and I would

00:55:11.640 go down.

00:55:12.640 I'll be like crunched down.

00:55:13.640 Like, oh my God, like I need to, I need to watch the show.

00:55:15.640 I need to watch the show.

00:55:16.640 Um, and so I built upon that somewhere in the, well, I really didn't have to say all

00:55:22.640 the details.

00:55:23.640 You did like a spinoff of that.

00:55:24.640 Yeah.

00:55:25.640 You did like a spinoff of it.

00:55:26.640 Tea.

00:55:27.640 And that's all.

00:55:28.640 No, you're so real for that.

00:55:29.640 Trust me.

00:55:30.640 Yeah.

00:55:31.640 Yeah.

00:55:32.640 It is a safe space here to talk about that.

00:55:33.640 Yeah.

00:55:34.640 Yeah.

00:55:35.640 I've talked about it many times.

00:55:36.640 I wrote fan fiction about the Jonas Brothers.

00:55:38.640 I was like, I was so down bad for them.

00:55:40.640 The Jonas Brothers.

00:55:41.640 Oh girl. 1.00

00:55:42.640 Balls deep in that white boy shit. 1.00

00:55:44.640 Really? 1.00

00:55:45.640 I for real was on my white boy shit at the time. 0.99

00:55:47.640 And you know, what's funny is like, I was a Nick girl and I always make this joke, but because 0.99

00:55:51.640 it's true.

00:55:52.640 I was like, I always, I don't know, maybe my like energy, my third, I just knew he was

00:55:55.640 going to be the only one to end up with a brown girl.

00:55:57.640 Oh my God.

00:55:58.640 Like just like a non white girl. 0.99

00:56:00.640 And I called it and I was right.

00:56:02.640 No way. 1.00

00:56:03.640 They hate a bitch when she's right. 1.00

00:56:05.640 No way. 1.00

00:56:06.640 That was like, I, if I really looked back because like any time there was like any popular

00:56:10.640 form of media, like I'm always team Brown.

00:56:12.640 Like I'm always team Brown.

00:56:13.640 So like whoever was not white, I was like, that's my fave. 1.00

00:56:16.640 I'm not.

00:56:17.640 Right.

00:56:18.640 Like that was like, well, like in the Twilight series, I was a Jacob girl.

00:56:20.640 I was like Jacob till I die.

00:56:22.640 Oh, I never read Twilight.

00:56:24.640 Really?

00:56:25.640 Well, I was banned from a lot of things.

00:56:27.640 Yeah.

00:56:28.640 I was like Twilight, Harry Potter, anything like kind of like fantasy and mystical, you

00:56:32.640 name it.

00:56:33.640 Witchy woo woo. 1.00

00:56:34.640 Yeah.

00:56:35.640 Witchy woo woo. 1.00

00:56:36.640 Like banned from like, oh, like parents, like family.

00:56:38.640 Yeah.

00:56:39.640 Oh, I see.

00:56:40.640 Yeah.

00:56:41.640 You should watch it.

00:56:42.640 You should, you should watch it now or read it now.

00:56:44.640 I feel like, I feel like I won't be, I feel like I missed my period of being like really

00:56:51.640 into it.

00:56:52.640 You know what I mean?

00:56:53.640 Like, that's what I meant.

00:56:54.640 I wish I was a fan back then because now I'm like, oh, like I'm getting the off brand,

00:56:58.640 but I wish I was like, like going to the movies and like waiting in line.

00:57:02.640 You know what I mean?

00:57:03.640 Like I want to be that type of fan.

00:57:04.640 Oh, hell yeah.

00:57:05.640 I missed my period.

00:57:06.640 No, that's T.

00:57:07.640 The window was closed.

00:57:08.640 The window has closed.

00:57:09.640 Have you watched the movies?

00:57:10.640 I haven't watched the movies.

00:57:12.640 Oh.

00:57:13.640 What have you watched?

00:57:15.640 I mean, I've seen, I've seen clips here and there, but I haven't watched any of them.

00:57:20.640 That's true.

00:57:21.640 What kind of TV shows do you like?

00:57:22.640 Hmm.

00:57:23.640 Or movies?

00:57:24.640 I've been watching, I've been watching Gravity Falls, which is-

00:57:29.640 I love that show.

00:57:31.640 I love that show.

00:57:33.640 It's so cute.

00:57:34.640 It's so fun.

00:57:35.640 I watched that.

00:57:36.640 There's this like Disney plus series called the Owl House that I was watching.

00:57:40.640 And then there was like, what else have I been watching?

00:57:43.640 You are all over the map.

00:57:44.640 I cannot, I cannot predict where you're going now.

00:57:48.640 I really am.

00:57:49.640 I was like, I, I've been meaning to watch some anime, but I haven't really.

00:57:54.640 No.

00:57:55.640 You know what?

00:57:56.640 That's honestly kind of tea because I recently have been thinking about delving into anime.

00:58:00.640 I know anime is like such an expansive universe.

00:58:03.640 Have you ever watched anime?

00:58:05.640 You have?

00:58:06.640 Yes.

00:58:07.640 Are you, are you a connoisseur?

00:58:09.640 Oh my God.

00:58:10.640 Oh my God.

00:58:11.640 Do I have some shows for you?

00:58:13.640 Oh wow.

00:58:14.640 I would love, I, I recently saw clips of this on TikTok and I was like, and this is just

00:58:19.640 tea for you, but like I'm writing another book and I'm doing, I'm doing a fiction.

00:58:22.640 Congratulations.

00:58:23.640 Thank you.

00:58:24.640 I'm doing a fiction series, like a romantic kind of series.

00:58:26.640 Ooh.

00:58:27.640 So like the thing with that is like my, my goal right now, like is to do a lot of research.

00:58:32.640 Yeah.

00:58:33.640 So I'm going to like read, read a ton of stuff.

00:58:34.640 Yeah.

00:58:35.640 And I like really want to watch anime because I know that there are quite a few love stories

00:58:40.640 in anime that are like epic and amazing.

00:58:42.640 Yeah.

00:58:43.640 Yeah.

00:58:44.640 Yeah.

00:58:45.640 So I've heard, so I'm like, I want to watch anime.

00:58:46.640 I want to watch maybe even like Bollywood films.

00:58:48.640 Like I've been like looking into lots of different genres of romance, romance, because I feel

00:58:53.640 like it would be so wonderful.

00:58:54.640 So I saw one called, I think it's called my marriage story.

00:58:59.640 Oh, is that what it's called?

00:59:00.640 Something like that.

00:59:01.640 It's like the guy has the long hair.

00:59:04.640 I feel like I know what you're talking about.

00:59:08.640 I need to like literally look it up while we're talking about it though.

00:59:11.640 So I can, but if you have recs for me, I would love them.

00:59:14.640 Oh wait, a lot of the, the, the, the bad part is a lot of them are pervy.

00:59:18.640 There are some that are like, so I've heard and I'm okay with that.

00:59:21.640 And I'm okay with that.

00:59:23.640 Cause I'm a grown up.

00:59:25.640 So my glasses are on while I'm watching.

00:59:28.640 This is research.

00:59:29.640 You did research.

00:59:31.640 I was like, I love, I was like, there, there's some that I'm like, this is like weird.

00:59:38.640 Cause like, why did like they're in high school?

00:59:40.640 Yeah.

00:59:41.640 Like why is she a teen? 0.98

00:59:42.640 And why are her boobs so big? 1.00

00:59:44.640 What's going on there? 0.99

00:59:45.640 What's going on?

00:59:46.640 Yeah.

00:59:47.640 There's some that are like just, just so sweet and so nice.

00:59:50.640 Right.

00:59:51.640 And so I even like recently I told my friend to watch how's moving castle.

00:59:55.640 Oh yeah.

00:59:56.640 Because she had never seen it before.

00:59:57.640 And in, in, in studio Ghibli, I've only seen Kiki's delivery service and how's moving castle.

01:00:02.640 I need to, I need to catch up.

01:00:03.640 But I told her, I was like, dude, re watch how's moving castle.

01:00:06.640 It's so good.

01:00:07.640 And so, and she loved it.

01:00:08.640 It was like, yeah, she loved it.

01:00:10.640 Um, but that's why I've been kind of tiptoeing towards anime because I was like, I need to get in there.

01:00:15.640 I need to get in there and do some more research.

01:00:18.640 So I will definitely take your recommendations.

01:00:20.640 I got you.

01:00:21.640 Pervy, not pervy.

01:00:22.640 I'll take them all.

01:00:23.640 I got you.

01:00:24.640 I got you.

01:00:25.640 I'm like racking through my brain.

01:00:26.640 I got you.

01:00:27.640 Let me think.

01:00:28.640 Let me think.

01:00:29.640 What's your favorite anime?

01:00:30.640 Oh man.

01:00:31.640 Wait.

01:00:32.640 If you had to choose.

01:00:33.640 Oh man.

01:00:34.640 That's hard.

01:00:35.640 Oh man.

01:00:36.640 Okay.

01:00:37.640 Wait.

01:00:38.640 Okay.

01:00:39.640 I'll give you three.

01:00:40.640 Top three.

01:00:41.640 Top three.

01:00:42.640 Top three right now.

01:00:43.640 Yes.

01:00:44.640 Apothecary Diaries, which is about, um, I'm so bad at like synopsis.

01:00:51.640 I don't know the word.

01:00:53.640 I'm so bad.

01:00:54.640 But basically this, this girl is, she's like, she gets kidnapped and she has to like serve

01:00:59.640 like the emperor and stuff like that.

01:01:01.640 But she also solves murders and things along the mysteries along those lines. 0.85

01:01:06.640 Interesting.

01:01:07.640 And she's really into poisons. 0.96

01:01:08.640 And she's, she's a very interesting character.

01:01:10.640 Love her.

01:01:11.640 Love.

01:01:12.640 Um, the Apothecary Diaries.

01:01:13.640 Spy X family. 0.98

01:01:14.640 Um, okay.

01:01:17.640 There's an assassin.

01:01:18.640 There's a, like a detective like person.

01:01:22.640 And then there's a child who reads minds and they come together.

01:01:26.640 They make a family because they have to, to do, they have to solve world peace.

01:01:31.640 Like they have to make world peace.

01:01:33.640 Cool.

01:01:34.640 Something along those lines.

01:01:35.640 Okay.

01:01:36.640 I'm really not selling this.

01:01:37.640 Right.

01:01:38.640 But it's really, my understanding of anime, any, anything is possible.

01:01:42.640 Like the sky is truly the limit in anime.

01:01:45.640 And I love that.

01:01:46.640 I was like, so I feel like there's that.

01:01:48.640 And then the third one.

01:01:50.640 Oh, why is the third one so hard?

01:01:52.640 Oh my.

01:01:53.640 Okay.

01:01:54.640 Okay.

01:01:55.640 Uh, uh, my favorite.

01:01:56.640 I was, I feel like my favorite that I always say is Violet Evergarden, which is about

01:02:00.640 this, this girl who was a, who was a soldier and now isn't a soldier and like has to like

01:02:07.640 do something with her life.

01:02:09.640 And so she ends up being what's called like a doll, which is like these like people who 0.98

01:02:13.640 write letters for other people.

01:02:15.640 And it's just going through like her adventures slash like her journey of being a doll.

01:02:20.640 And I made me cry the first time.

01:02:23.640 Oh, I love that.

01:02:25.640 That's honestly tea.

01:02:26.640 Really?

01:02:27.640 Yeah.

01:02:28.640 I love that.

01:02:29.640 I love, I love your Rex.

01:02:30.640 Thank you.

01:02:31.640 I'll definitely take them.

01:02:32.640 I'm so excited to venture on my journey.

01:02:34.640 I was like talking to one of my other friends on the show and we were talking about housewives

01:02:38.640 and she was like, have you ever watched?

01:02:39.640 And I was like, no, I've never watched like any housewives or anything like that.

01:02:42.640 And she was like, Oh my God, you're the luckiest girl in the world.

01:02:45.640 Oh, we can experience it for the first time.

01:02:48.640 And we laughed about it.

01:02:49.640 So like, that's how that's, I feel like the luckiest girl in the world.

01:02:52.640 I've never really watched any anime.

01:02:54.640 My, my fiance actually really loves anime too.

01:02:56.640 Really?

01:02:57.640 He watches a lot of the heavy hitters though.

01:02:58.640 Like he watches like attack on Titan and stuff like that.

01:03:00.640 So like the, the real popular ones, like he's, he's into those ones too.

01:03:04.640 Um, but he's watched other ones too that I can't remember the names of right now.

01:03:08.640 Um, my brother loves anime also.

01:03:10.640 And so my brother's always like, he'll text my man and he'll be like, can I have the login

01:03:14.640 to the crunchy roll account?

01:03:15.640 And like, and they're the only two who use it.

01:03:18.640 Like just the two of them.

01:03:19.640 And then he's like, can I have the login?

01:03:21.640 And every time he's at my house, that's what he's watching on my TV.

01:03:24.640 So I get it.

01:03:26.640 And I know my brother's going to geek when I tell him to like, I have, I've yet to tell

01:03:30.640 him that I'm going to start delving in my dive in hands first.

01:03:35.640 I even asked him, I was like, does avatar count?

01:03:37.640 Like avatar, the last airborne is an anime.

01:03:39.640 And then he was like, no, it doesn't.

01:03:42.640 That's American made. 0.99

01:03:43.640 It has to be made in Japan.

01:03:44.640 And I was like, okay, my bad master, my bad professor of anime.

01:03:49.640 My bad, but I did love avatar very much.

01:03:53.640 So like, I haven't watched avatar.

01:03:56.640 It's so good.

01:03:57.640 I heard that is like literally one of my favorite shows of all time.

01:04:00.640 Really?

01:04:01.640 I hear that a lot.

01:04:02.640 Genuinely.

01:04:03.640 It's such a good show.

01:04:04.640 Top to bottom.

01:04:05.640 No notes, except one.

01:04:06.640 Um, he should not have ended up with her.

01:04:08.640 Oh, that's it.

01:04:09.640 Oh, you know what I'm talking about?

01:04:11.640 I'm not going to spoil it for him, but you know what I'm talking about?

01:04:14.640 Well, I love that.

01:04:15.640 Now I got anime recommendations.

01:04:17.640 I got your WAP pad info.

01:04:20.640 All of that. 1.00

01:04:21.640 Honestly, when I wrote fanfic girl, I like, I wrote that shit. 0.99

01:04:26.640 Like Han wrote it like a pilgrim. 0.96

01:04:28.640 And then I, and I ended up meeting the Jonas brothers too.

01:04:31.640 And I, and the only reason I even got to meet them was because I wrote fan fiction and I've talked about it.

01:04:37.640 Yeah.

01:04:38.640 And I've talked about how much I love them and made videos like talking about how much I love them.

01:04:42.640 Well, I made a YouTube video once with my sister when we were younger and I like used it.

01:04:46.640 Oh, that's so cute.

01:04:47.640 Yeah.

01:04:48.640 So it's like, I was like a big fan girl of them for years.

01:04:50.640 Oh, did you tell them that like you did?

01:04:52.640 No. 1.00

01:04:53.640 Fuck no. 1.00

01:04:54.640 Oh. 1.00

01:04:55.640 No way.

01:04:56.640 I was cool, calm and collected.

01:04:58.640 Just kidding.

01:04:59.640 They were really nice.

01:05:00.640 If I had the time, I honestly probably would have told them.

01:05:02.640 It would have come out eventually.

01:05:03.640 Oh yeah.

01:05:04.640 I have no shame.

01:05:05.640 No shame in my game.

01:05:06.640 Absolutely not.

01:05:07.640 I've seen, whenever I talk about it and I like go into even more detail because like the funniest thing about my fanfic is that it's not a first person one.

01:05:14.640 Yeah.

01:05:15.640 I'm writing it as, as Miley Cyrus, essentially.

01:05:18.640 Oh, really?

01:05:19.640 Like, and her lore and their world.

01:05:21.640 Did you just not see yourself with one of the Jonas brothers?

01:05:24.640 No, I honestly, I honestly don't know why I wrote it that way.

01:05:28.640 I don't know if maybe I thought it would be like better if people thought it was someone real or maybe it's because I was destined to write fiction eventually because I was like, well, I'm not gonna write it in first person.

01:05:36.640 Like I'm gonna write in first person, but I have to have a character and the character has to be somebody.

01:05:40.640 Yeah.

01:05:41.640 I think it was like, I was taking a very literal interpretation of it.

01:05:44.640 Like I was writing a book.

01:05:45.640 Yeah.

01:05:46.640 But it's like, what like better person than Miley Cyrus or Miley Cyrus adjacent.

01:05:50.640 And I don't think I've ever said this before, but I did start a sequel to my fan fiction, like never having posted it to anyone.

01:05:56.640 I started a sequel.

01:05:57.640 I think I wrote like a quarter of it.

01:05:59.640 That one was a spinoff and that one was about Demi Lovato and Joe Jonas.

01:06:03.640 Whoa.

01:06:04.640 And their eventual love story.

01:06:06.640 Whoa.

01:06:07.640 I started that one and just never finished it because then I was like, I guess 14.

01:06:11.640 So I was like, well, I guess I have to go to school and stuff.

01:06:14.640 Like I'm like, this is taking up all my time.

01:06:16.640 I have to go back to school.

01:06:17.640 I have a job.

01:06:18.640 I have to clock in.

01:06:20.640 So I get it.

01:06:21.640 We're kindred spirits.

01:06:22.640 We're kindred spirits, you and I.

01:06:23.640 No, literally.

01:06:24.640 We're a lot alike.

01:06:25.640 We're not so different, you and me.

01:06:27.640 You and me.

01:06:29.640 Literally.

01:06:30.640 Oh, man.

01:06:31.640 Will it come out eventually though?

01:06:33.640 And everyone always asked me that.

01:06:34.640 Really?

01:06:35.640 And if I could find it, I really would.

01:06:37.640 I'm not even kidding.

01:06:38.640 I'm not ashamed at all.

01:06:39.640 I would love to go live and read it.

01:06:42.640 Like I would literally do that if I could find it.

01:06:44.640 I can't and because I hand wrote it because I'm a hundred years old.

01:06:47.640 I'm dead.

01:06:48.640 I like don't know where it is.

01:06:50.640 It might be in my mom and dad's house.

01:06:52.640 Like, but I've looked before and I haven't been able to find it.

01:06:54.640 And I genuinely think if I can't find it, I think I was so violently ashamed of it at one point that I threw it away.

01:07:00.640 Oh.

01:07:01.640 And by that, I mean, I was probably just like, God, gold in my hands.

01:07:04.640 Didn't even.

01:07:05.640 Didn't even utilize it when the time was right.

01:07:08.640 It happened.

01:07:09.640 Lost art.

01:07:11.640 It happens.

01:07:12.640 Yeah.

01:07:13.640 So I get that you going in your Wattpad and be like, delete, delete, delete.

01:07:16.640 Yeah.

01:07:17.640 But it's saved on Google somewhere.

01:07:19.640 So maybe I'm hoping I'm like one day.

01:07:22.640 Do you still dabble in reading Wattpad?

01:07:25.640 Man, I do.

01:07:27.640 I do.

01:07:28.640 Actually, yesterday I was reading like a, like a, I don't think it was a fan fiction novel, but I'm watching this series and it's inspired by a novel.

01:07:38.640 And so I read the novel yesterday.

01:07:39.640 Oh, nice.

01:07:40.640 Yeah.

01:07:41.640 I miss those days.

01:07:42.640 I miss those days.

01:07:43.640 Right.

01:07:44.640 Where you were like, couldn't wait to get in there.

01:07:46.640 Exactly.

01:07:47.640 Or like when you would like see a new chapter and you're like, yes.

01:07:50.640 Yes.

01:07:51.640 Yes.

01:07:52.640 My show's locked.

01:07:53.640 Literally.

01:07:54.640 Don't bother me.

01:07:55.640 Shows locked the door.

01:07:56.640 Don't bother me.

01:07:57.640 Yeah.

01:07:58.640 For real.

01:07:59.640 I have plans.

01:08:00.640 Yeah.

01:08:01.640 No, literally.

01:08:02.640 I get it.

01:08:03.640 It was on Wattpad.

01:08:04.640 Like, and I, it was a fan fiction and I can't say what it's about because it's not a good thing.

01:08:08.640 But I'll tell, I'll tell you, but like, we have to cut this part out.

01:08:11.640 But it was about .

01:08:13.640 I just, it just, someone DM'd it to me because I had said I was reading a book that was somewhat in that world.

01:08:18.640 Yeah.

01:08:19.640 But it wasn't, it wasn't .

01:08:20.640 Yeah.

01:08:21.640 So like, they were like, oh, you should read this.

01:08:22.640 And I said, I literally read it, moved me to tears.

01:08:25.640 No way.

01:08:27.640 They are in their bag on Wattpad.

01:08:30.640 No way. 1.00

01:08:31.640 Like for real, they know how to write shit on there. 1.00

01:08:32.640 That's so true. 1.00

01:08:33.640 You get it though.

01:08:34.640 I was like, Wattpad has been, has inspired probably a lot of songs.

01:08:40.640 That's why I was like, I start to fear.

01:08:43.640 I'm like, I feel like maybe this has more of a pull on me than I realized.

01:08:47.640 Oh yeah.

01:08:48.640 No, it definitely does.

01:08:49.640 It's definitely like my personality.

01:08:50.640 It's definitely like.

01:08:51.640 It's touching everything I make.

01:08:53.640 Exactly.

01:08:54.640 I love it though.

01:08:55.640 I love it.

01:08:56.640 Me too.

01:08:57.640 And I think it's amazing.

01:08:58.640 I literally, I could, I literally moved me to tears.

01:09:00.640 I read it.

01:09:01.640 I was like, this is a beautiful story.

01:09:03.640 Have to have a good mix.

01:09:05.640 It was so good.

01:09:06.640 And it was so dramatic. 0.99

01:09:07.640 And it was like, there was so many stakes and all that shit. 0.99

01:09:10.640 It was good. 0.98

01:09:11.640 Modern literature, honestly.

01:09:12.640 I'm telling you. 0.99

01:09:13.640 Get in, get the bitches are in their bag on Wattpad. 1.00

01:09:16.640 You have to get on Wattpad if you're not. 0.97

01:09:18.640 It's so good.

01:09:19.640 Yes.

01:09:20.640 But thank you so much for coming on the show.

01:09:22.640 Oh man, thank you for having me.

01:09:23.640 I think you're incredible.

01:09:24.640 Before we go, I would love if you could give everyone just like your best piece of advice

01:09:29.640 for, if they're, if they're an aspiring artist, if maybe they're like looking to become one,

01:09:34.640 like what's your best piece of advice for them?

01:09:36.640 Up and coming artists.

01:09:37.640 Up and coming.

01:09:38.640 Honestly, I feel that I'm like, if you haven't already, like learn how to produce.

01:09:43.640 Like it's really, it's a good, like kind of skill to have on the back of, in the back of your belt,

01:09:50.640 just to like be able to do like a song or something on your own.

01:09:54.640 Like, I feel like that's a really good thing to do.

01:09:56.640 That's tea.

01:09:57.640 A lot of the, a lot of artists, Kaylani told me that when she came on the show.

01:10:01.640 Yeah.

01:10:02.640 She was like, you should learn how to do your own thing.

01:10:04.640 Yeah.

01:10:05.640 Especially when you're in larger groups when you're working.

01:10:08.640 So you can like, if you don't like it, you know how to do it on your own.

01:10:11.640 Yeah.

01:10:12.640 Like if you don't like how they're doing it.

01:10:13.640 Yeah.

01:10:14.640 You can call it.

01:10:15.640 You can do it.

01:10:16.640 Tea.

01:10:17.640 Women in STEM.

01:10:18.640 Women in STEM.

01:10:19.640 Yes.

01:10:20.640 Well, thank you so much for coming on the show. 0.98

01:10:21.640 I fucking love you. 0.98

01:10:22.640 I love you too. 0.98

01:10:23.640 Thank you for having me.

01:10:24.640 You're amazing.

01:10:25.640 And you're so talented.

01:10:26.640 And I can't wait to keep watching your star rise.

01:10:28.640 Like, and then I'll be literally just like Chapel.

01:10:30.640 I'll be like, and she was on the comment section.

01:10:32.640 I'm dead.

01:10:33.640 Yes.

01:10:34.640 Of course.

01:10:35.640 I'm claiming it here.

01:10:37.640 Ticket to fame here.

01:10:38.640 But I'm so, I am so happy to know you and I'm so happy to see you.

01:10:42.640 And I've seen you live, which is incredible.

01:10:44.640 Yeah.

01:10:45.640 Oh.

01:10:46.640 So congratulations on everything.

01:10:47.640 I can't wait to keep watching you.

01:10:48.640 Thank you so much.

01:10:49.640 You're amazing.

01:10:50.640 Thank you all so much for tuning into this episode of the comment section.

01:10:52.640 Thank you to my amazing guest, Hemlock Springs.

01:10:54.640 For those of you that don't know, where can everybody find you?

01:10:57.640 Oh, gosh.

01:10:58.640 Um, I should know the answer to this.

01:11:00.640 Everywhere.

01:11:01.640 Um, DSP's like Spotify and like, I'm so, why am I bad at it?

01:11:08.640 What's your handle?

01:11:09.640 Um, it should just be Hemlock.

01:11:11.640 Like Hemlock.

01:11:12.640 H E M L O C K E. 1.00

01:11:14.640 H O C K E. 1.00

01:11:15.640 Yes.

01:11:16.640 And then Springs. 0.56

01:11:17.640 S P R I N G S. 1.00

01:11:19.640 I should be better at answering that question.

01:11:21.640 Well, you know what?

01:11:22.640 It's okay.

01:11:23.640 It's all right.

01:11:24.640 Because they're going to have to, after they watch this episode, they're going to have

01:11:27.640 to go find you.

01:11:28.640 They're going to find you on their own.

01:11:29.640 They don't need your help.

01:11:30.640 They can do it.

01:11:31.640 Do you have anything else you want to promote?

01:11:35.640 Um, oh, my, oh, my, uh, debut album, the apple tree under the sea comes out February 13th.

01:11:42.640 I am so happy for it and so excited for it to be released.

01:11:46.640 So stay tuned.

01:11:47.640 Oh my gosh.

01:11:48.640 How exciting.

01:11:49.640 Congratulations.

01:11:50.640 Everyone, please go check out Hemlock. 0.99

01:11:52.640 She is fucking incredible. 0.97

01:11:54.640 Like genuinely an artist to her core. 0.99

01:11:56.640 Can't wait to see her keep being famous. 1.00

01:11:57.640 I can't wait to hear all of you go.

01:11:58.640 Wait, wasn't Hemlock Springs on the comment section?

01:12:00.640 Yeah, exactly.

01:12:02.640 Exactly.

01:12:03.640 Thank you so much to my amazing guest Hemlock for joining us.

01:12:06.640 Thank you so much for watching the comment section.

01:12:07.640 Don't forget new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday.

01:12:10.640 You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, but the video lives for free and

01:12:14.640 exclusively on our favorite platform, Spotify.

01:12:16.640 Thank you so much to my amazing guest Hemlock Springs.

01:12:18.640 Thank you so much for tuning in and I'll see you next week.

01:12:20.640 Bye.

01:12:21.640 Merry Christmas.

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The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - December 24, 2025

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