The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - HATERS AND DIEHARDS Ft. hemlocke springs

00:00:00.000 Your style inspiration is Miss Frizzle.

00:00:02.400 I love Miss Frizzle!

00:00:04.320 Oh my gosh, just so underrated, so underrated.

00:00:07.440 That is so T, I love that.

00:00:09.440 Do I give Miss Frizzle right now?

00:00:10.880 Yes, absolutely.

00:00:12.760 Honestly, you know what I was thinking of

00:00:14.520 with your look right now?

00:00:15.400 It's like Monster High.

00:00:16.840 Really?

00:00:17.680 I love like a Monster High doll,

00:00:18.680 like you know what I'm saying?

00:00:20.080 Like a cunty little outfit.

00:00:21.600 Thank you, I give cunt?

00:00:23.280 Yes!

00:00:30.000 Hey everyone, and welcome back to another episode

00:00:34.280 of the Comment Section Show,

00:00:35.600 starring me, your fave, your host, Drew.

00:00:37.640 Merry Christmas and happy holidays, clearly,

00:00:41.880 or Merry Christmas Eve, whenever you're watching this.

00:00:44.060 I don't know, girl, I don't know your life.

00:00:45.720 Anyways, on to the guests.

00:00:47.340 Today we have the iconic, the talented,

00:00:49.520 the legendary, Hemlock Springs!

00:00:52.040 Woo!

00:00:55.240 Welcome to the show.

00:00:56.800 Thank you for having me, Drew.

00:00:58.040 Oh my God, thank you so much for joining us

00:00:59.600 on this very special holiday episode.

00:01:01.640 I'm sorry I didn't tell you it was a holiday episode.

00:01:05.840 It's all good in spirit, literally.

00:01:08.680 Right.

00:01:09.520 But I'm with you, yeah.

00:01:10.960 Yeah, I'm honored to have you here.

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00:01:39.080 How you doing?

00:01:40.000 I'm good.

00:01:40.720 No, just chilling, chilling here, trying to figure out what to say.

00:01:46.200 Oh, girl, don't worry.

00:01:47.880 I'm already stumbling.

00:01:48.800 Oh, don't even worry about it, that's my job.

00:01:50.760 Oh, awesome.

00:01:51.760 My job is to, I always like to describe it as like, I'm just driving the ship.

00:01:54.120 You just take in the sights.

00:01:55.440 That's great, I can't drive.

00:01:56.440 As I steer.

00:01:57.440 So, that's awesome.

00:01:58.440 There you go.

00:01:59.440 Yeah.

00:02:00.440 Well, I'm happy to have you.

00:02:01.440 Huge fan.

00:02:02.440 Thank you.

00:02:03.440 Of you and your art.

00:02:04.440 Same here.

00:02:05.440 I would love to know, just for, or get into first, the history of your artistry and like,

00:02:08.080 how you became into, how you came into performance as a whole.

00:02:10.440 Yeah.

00:02:11.440 I'd like to know that.

00:02:12.440 Let's start there.

00:02:13.440 I mean, I was doing school.

00:02:15.360 I was up in Dartmouth.

00:02:17.200 I was doing my master's program.

00:02:19.040 OKT, smarty pants.

00:02:20.600 Oh, no.

00:02:21.320 Love that.

00:02:22.320 I sound a lot smarter than I actually am, unfortunately.

00:02:25.320 OK, you know what, we're going to fix that because you are smart.

00:02:28.320 Ah, thank you.

00:02:29.480 I love it, I love it.

00:02:31.640 But yeah, no, I just, I discovered TikTok like after I got COVID like the, like two weeks

00:02:37.360 before I discovered TikTok.

00:02:39.400 What year was this?

00:02:40.960 It had to be like 2022.

00:02:42.760 Interesting, OK.

00:02:43.760 And so I was like scrolling and I was like, oh, yeah, OK, I see what this is.

00:02:47.840 And then I was like, you know, I did, I just recently did a song, like how about I put

00:02:53.440 it on TikTok because I don't really want to do my machine learning homework.

00:02:56.640 And so I did that.

00:02:57.520 And then now I'm here.

00:02:58.520 Life finds a way.

00:03:00.640 Life finds a way.

00:03:01.560 Well, I'm interested, you said you were pursuing your master's at Dartmouth.

00:03:04.200 Yeah.

00:03:04.640 What were you getting a master's in?

00:03:06.280 I was doing bioinformatics and I was just looking at, I wanted to.

00:03:10.880 Two seconds ago, you were like, oh, I sound a lot smarter.

00:03:14.960 I don't even know what that is.

00:03:16.960 I think smart.

00:03:18.960 It sounds a lot smarter.

00:03:21.560 I was just using like statistics and computer science to like look at different like biological

00:03:26.360 data sets.

00:03:26.960 It could be DNA sequences, could be sicknesses, could be whatever.

00:03:30.640 And so.

00:03:31.640 You sound smart as fuck to me.

00:03:32.640 Nah.

00:03:33.640 So if you're trying to hide being smart, you're not doing a good job.

00:03:38.640 Thank you.

00:03:39.640 Thank you.

00:03:40.640 That is so fucking cool.

00:03:41.640 What got you into that?

00:03:42.640 Women in STEM?

00:03:43.640 Yeah.

00:03:44.640 Honestly, no, I went to Spelman, which is an all black girls college in Atlanta.

00:03:48.640 And I was like, I want to do biology and I want, I want to be a doctor first, but that

00:03:53.640 wasn't going to work.

00:03:54.640 Hey, I would trust you with my life as my doctor.

00:03:58.640 Oh, don't.

00:03:59.640 You're dead.

00:04:00.640 I'm sorry.

00:04:01.640 I come in sensitive or I'm like, yeah, she's the one.

00:04:05.640 I'm honored.

00:04:06.640 Thank you.

00:04:07.640 What kind of doctor were you thinking about?

00:04:09.640 You know, that's a great question because I went in, I was like, I want to be an OBGYN.

00:04:14.640 But then I was like, there's so many other doctors out there that I didn't know at the

00:04:19.640 time, but I stuck with OBGYN.

00:04:21.640 But then I was like, I don't really want to do that.

00:04:24.640 Yeah.

00:04:25.640 Yeah.

00:04:26.640 After a while you're like, nevermind.

00:04:27.640 Yeah.

00:04:28.640 Well, that's the best time to decide.

00:04:29.640 Exactly.

00:04:30.640 When you're sampling in college.

00:04:31.640 Exactly.

00:04:32.640 Okay.

00:04:33.640 So I was like, you know, like, but I'm still going to like, see this through cause I still

00:04:36.640 do love biology and stuff and like that.

00:04:38.640 And then I went into my master's program and I was like, yeah, I really don't want to do this.

00:04:43.640 So I'm like, I'll be just like do research and like be a researcher.

00:04:47.640 And yeah, I ended up not doing that.

00:04:50.640 What did you love about biology?

00:04:54.640 Um, I think I just like learning about just life, the life around me, what's in my body,

00:04:59.640 what's out there.

00:05:01.640 And I mean, I grew up really cool.

00:05:04.640 I love that.

00:05:05.640 Yeah.

00:05:06.640 No, I was like, I just, I grew up with a lot of questions and I feel like I just wanted

00:05:10.640 to seek the answers to those questions.

00:05:12.640 And biology was like the way I guess, I guess there are other fields, but biology was the

00:05:18.640 one that made sense for me.

00:05:19.640 So I'm like, Oh, I'll do this.

00:05:21.640 Yeah.

00:05:22.640 When did music come into play?

00:05:23.640 Um, like, have you always loved music?

00:05:25.640 Was it something you discovered?

00:05:26.640 Yeah, no, I was, I was honestly, I think it was something that, that like was just shown

00:05:31.640 to me.

00:05:32.640 I was with, I was in high school.

00:05:33.640 I've always done chorus.

00:05:34.640 Cause I knew like, I could sing a little bit, like not like it wasn't a Whitney Houston,

00:05:38.640 but I'm like, I can hold a tune.

00:05:39.640 So I was like, let me go.

00:05:41.640 Um, but one of my friends who I'm still friends with, their name is MJ.

00:05:47.640 They showed me like, Oh, they're like, Oh, I did a song on garage band.

00:05:51.640 And I'm like, what's that?

00:05:52.640 And they're like, you have it on your computer.

00:05:54.640 You dumb ass.

00:05:55.640 I'm like, okay, but I, uh, I started just looking on garage band and just like started

00:06:02.640 playing in that realm.

00:06:04.640 And then it just never ended.

00:06:06.640 I was like, Oh, I'll spend, um, I'm going to spend some money to just continue to do

00:06:11.640 me doing this.

00:06:12.640 Cause I like doing it and why question that?

00:06:15.640 And so I just did it, but I did it in secret.

00:06:17.640 Cause I was like, Oh, like I can, like, it took me a while even now, like to be like,

00:06:22.640 Oh, I'm an artist.

00:06:23.640 Like I, I produce and I'm an artist.

00:06:25.640 Like I think, and definitely back then I'm like, Oh, I, you know, I just, I just dabble

00:06:30.640 here and there.

00:06:31.640 Like I just, you know.

00:06:32.640 Women in STEM for real.

00:06:33.640 Like you took, you took that and applied it to like engineering, sound engineering.

00:06:37.640 It's fucking cool.

00:06:38.640 Literally.

00:06:39.640 And so, yeah, no.

00:06:40.640 And so I credit them.

00:06:41.640 Thank you.

00:06:42.640 MJ.

00:06:43.640 I don't know where the camera is.

00:06:44.640 Thank you.

00:06:45.640 Yeah.

00:06:46.640 Whichever one you want.

00:06:47.640 Oh really?

00:06:48.640 Oh my God.

00:06:49.640 Thanks MJ.

00:06:50.640 I just talked to them.

00:06:51.640 Their house recently burned down.

00:06:52.640 So I know it was, it was actually crazy too.

00:06:55.640 That wasn't the, I was like, Oh, happy Thanksgiving.

00:06:57.640 And they're like, Oh, my house burned down, but I'm going to go to like Thanksgiving dinner

00:07:02.640 with my mom.

00:07:03.640 And I'm like, how is your house not burning down?

00:07:05.640 Or how's your house burning down?

00:07:06.640 Not the crux of your message.

00:07:08.640 Honestly, I admire them.

00:07:09.640 No, I'm like, yeah.

00:07:10.640 Kind of an awful thing happened, but on my way to dinner.

00:07:12.640 Yeah.

00:07:13.640 Let's dinner.

00:07:14.640 Key key key.

00:07:15.640 I was like, okay.

00:07:16.640 I was like, all righty.

00:07:17.640 Um, but, um.

00:07:18.640 Okay.

00:07:19.640 So you got into engineering.

00:07:20.640 That's kind of how you started just making beats or were you like, and you were singing

00:07:22.640 on your own.

00:07:23.640 Yeah.

00:07:24.640 I would like, I would like sing in the library, but like nobody would really be in the library.

00:07:28.640 Right.

00:07:29.640 And so I was just like, Oh, like actually pause.

00:07:32.640 I'll be in the library bathroom.

00:07:33.640 There we go.

00:07:34.640 Right.

00:07:35.640 And I would like bring like my mic and I'll just be like.

00:07:38.640 Why the library bathroom?

00:07:40.640 Nobody would be there.

00:07:42.640 Oh, and so it's quiet.

00:07:43.640 Yeah.

00:07:44.640 Interestingly.

00:07:45.640 And like, I don't know, there were classrooms, there were empty classrooms, but like people

00:07:50.640 liked being in the empty classrooms and not really the library.

00:07:53.640 And so I'm like, well, I'm going to go to the library and I'm just going to, you know,

00:07:56.640 nobody's going to, who's going to stop?

00:07:58.640 They don't know.

00:07:59.640 No, you're right.

00:08:00.640 Yeah.

00:08:01.640 And so I was like.

00:08:02.640 And show me where it says you can't record songs in the bathroom.

00:08:03.640 Exactly.

00:08:04.640 Exactly.

00:08:05.640 That's not in the rules anywhere.

00:08:06.640 It's not in the rules.

00:08:08.640 And so I would just, I would do that frequently when I should have been studying.

00:08:12.640 But now, you know what?

00:08:13.640 No, I did what I needed to do.

00:08:15.640 Yeah.

00:08:16.640 You're, you know, your spirit was for sure following something.

00:08:18.640 Yeah.

00:08:19.640 Absolutely.

00:08:20.640 Clearly look.

00:08:21.640 Look at you.

00:08:22.640 Thank you.

00:08:23.640 You were following the right calling.

00:08:24.640 Thank you.

00:08:25.640 We've had multiple callings, but this was the right one.

00:08:27.640 This was the right one.

00:08:28.640 This was the one.

00:08:29.640 Okay.

00:08:30.640 So when you, when did you start like actually trying to make music?

00:08:32.640 Like, oh man, I think honestly, like when my, my first Tik Tok kind of went like viral,

00:08:40.640 I was like, oh, okay.

00:08:42.640 Like I'm people like it.

00:08:44.640 Cool.

00:08:45.640 Alrighty.

00:08:46.640 I'll why not?

00:08:47.640 You know, like, and I think my friends at the time, like at the time, we're still friends.

00:08:53.640 Why am I saying that?

00:08:54.640 Why am I saying that?

00:08:55.640 Why am I saying that?

00:08:56.640 Right.

00:08:57.640 My friends were just like, hey, like, you know, you have an opportunity to do something

00:09:01.640 and like, you would kind of be dumb to like, just not go for it.

00:09:06.640 Like let it pass you by.

00:09:07.640 Yeah.

00:09:08.640 And I feel like fear was kind of rocking me.

00:09:10.640 So I'm like, you know what?

00:09:11.640 I'm gonna be Dora the Explorer.

00:09:12.640 Let me put the backpack on and let's see where it goes.

00:09:14.640 Right.

00:09:15.640 Period.

00:09:16.640 Thank God you did.

00:09:17.640 Thank you.

00:09:18.640 Well, I think that's wonderful.

00:09:19.640 What do you think?

00:09:20.640 What were you afraid of?

00:09:21.640 Hmm.

00:09:22.640 I think failure, but I feel that that's just going to happen.

00:09:26.640 Like, I think I'm going to make a lot of mistakes.

00:09:28.640 I'm going to quote unquote fail a lot.

00:09:30.640 And that's not necessarily a negative thing.

00:09:32.640 It's just a learning experience.

00:09:33.640 Absolutely.

00:09:34.640 And it doesn't mean you're not walking in your purpose.

00:09:36.640 Exactly.

00:09:37.640 Cause you're absolutely walking in purpose.

00:09:39.640 Yeah.

00:09:40.640 So when, when did you feel like it was like really starting to like, oh my gosh, I think

00:09:44.640 this is becoming something.

00:09:45.640 Okay.

00:09:46.640 Honestly, I think it was when I got a, I'd gotten like little shout outs here and there,

00:09:51.640 but I remember like Doja Cat shouted me out and I was very confused as to like the line

00:09:59.640 of how, I was like, how, how does she like, how does she know me?

00:10:04.640 Like what, what?

00:10:05.640 Oh my gosh.

00:10:06.640 And like, like all my friends are just like, what the hell?

00:10:09.640 Like what is going on with you?

00:10:12.640 And I was just like, no y'all.

00:10:14.640 I'm a, I'm an artist.

00:10:15.640 Like, I'm actually doing this.

00:10:20.640 And so I feel like it was then I'm like, okay, like, oh shit.

00:10:23.640 Very cool though.

00:10:24.640 Yeah.

00:10:25.640 No, very, very cool.

00:10:26.640 Very cool.

00:10:27.640 And since then, like, just, I've just gotten like, honestly, it's, I think it's been the

00:10:32.640 community, like the artist community that I've been like, oh, like, I think that's given

00:10:35.640 me the confidence to be like, you know what?

00:10:37.640 No, I, I can, I can do this.

00:10:39.640 Absolutely.

00:10:40.640 And I like, and I love like just being that this is my job.

00:10:43.640 And so.

00:10:44.640 Yeah.

00:10:45.640 You're also so unique, which is fucking awesome.

00:10:47.640 It's so refreshing.

00:10:48.640 I mean that so sincerely.

00:10:49.640 And I saw you perform at the Rose Bowl.

00:10:51.640 Oh yeah.

00:10:52.640 Yeah.

00:10:53.640 For Chapel.

00:10:54.640 Yeah.

00:10:55.640 For Chapel.

00:10:56.640 And I know you love Chapel.

00:10:57.640 Yes.

00:10:58.640 She is wonderful and amazing.

00:10:59.640 Yes.

00:11:00.640 Oh my God.

00:11:01.640 The amount of times.

00:11:02.640 So what about Chapel?

00:11:03.640 Everybody always asked me about her.

00:11:04.640 Really?

00:11:05.640 Yeah.

00:11:06.640 Because she did, she did my show and.

00:11:07.640 Yeah.

00:11:08.640 Yeah.

00:11:09.640 She doesn't really do interviews anymore.

00:11:10.640 So like, but she did mine and that's because we're friends, but like.

00:11:12.640 I'm dead.

00:11:13.640 Yeah.

00:11:14.640 Like, but I was like, they're just like, so do you like Chapel?

00:11:16.640 Is she awesome?

00:11:17.640 I'm dead.

00:11:18.640 And I bet you get that question a lot too.

00:11:20.640 I do, but I love it.

00:11:21.640 I love it.

00:11:22.640 I love it.

00:11:23.640 I'll sing her praises.

00:11:24.640 Exactly.

00:11:25.640 To the cows come home.

00:11:26.640 I was like, she like stands behind her actions and stuff.

00:11:28.640 She like reached out to me.

00:11:29.640 Like, like when one of my songs was going viral.

00:11:32.640 And since then, like she's supported me all the way.

00:11:35.640 So yeah, I'll answer.

00:11:36.640 I was like.

00:11:37.640 Hell yeah.

00:11:38.640 Hell yeah.

00:11:39.640 Well, you're getting co-signs from very like unique people in the industry.

00:11:43.640 Like people who I've broken through, which I think is quite the co-sign.

00:11:46.640 Yeah.

00:11:47.640 It's fucking amazing.

00:11:48.640 It's really cool.

00:11:49.640 And rightfully so.

00:11:50.640 I watched you perform.

00:11:51.640 I watched your whole set.

00:11:52.640 Oh God.

00:11:53.640 Which one?

00:11:54.640 I did night two.

00:11:55.640 Okay.

00:11:56.640 Yeah.

00:11:57.640 I was like, night one was very interesting, but night two was also very interesting.

00:12:01.640 But yeah.

00:12:02.640 I thought you were fantastic.

00:12:03.640 You're kind.

00:12:04.640 And even, you know, what's so funny is like when we were in the audience, my assistant,

00:12:08.640 who was also like one of my best friends, Carrie was with us, my sister and our friend Cody,

00:12:12.640 and we were watching.

00:12:13.640 And then I was like, we should ask her to come on the show.

00:12:15.640 I'm dead.

00:12:16.640 Yeah.

00:12:17.640 I literally had that thought.

00:12:18.640 And then she was like, it's funny.

00:12:19.640 You say that because I'm pretty sure I've heard from their team before.

00:12:21.640 Let me reach out to them.

00:12:22.640 Oh, she's also my booker for the show.

00:12:24.640 Oh, wait.

00:12:25.640 So I watched your set.

00:12:26.640 I was like, get that talented bitch on my show.

00:12:29.640 Right now.

00:12:30.640 Oh, thank you.

00:12:31.640 Oh, thank you.

00:12:32.640 So I love that.

00:12:33.640 I thought you were incredible.

00:12:34.640 Oh, thank you so much.

00:12:35.640 And you're just so unique.

00:12:36.640 Like your sound is so interesting.

00:12:37.640 How did you find your sound?

00:12:39.640 I mean, I think like I just listened to a lot of 80s stuff and a lot of, I don't know.

00:12:46.640 I always cite like Kate Bush or like Grimes or Prince or whoever.

00:12:49.640 And I'm just like, yeah, it probably all made its way there.

00:12:54.640 Yeah.

00:12:55.640 Like an 80s like synth pop, like that kind of thing.

00:12:57.640 Yeah.

00:12:58.640 80s synth pop.

00:12:59.640 But I think that.

00:13:00.640 I love that.

00:13:01.640 Thank you.

00:13:02.640 No, I just, you know, I, but when I like go and make music, like, I don't really think

00:13:05.640 that way.

00:13:06.640 I'm just like, I'm going to make a song and you know, whatever comes out is what comes out.

00:13:09.640 And what sounds cool to you.

00:13:10.640 Yeah.

00:13:11.640 And I guess that sounded cool to me, but it's weird.

00:13:13.640 I don't see myself as unique or that in any way.

00:13:16.640 I see myself as like quite, quite like mundane, quite boring.

00:13:20.640 Well, that's the problem.

00:13:22.640 Let's start there.

00:13:24.640 You should not be looking at yourself the way you are incredibly unique in a beautiful way.

00:13:29.640 And honestly, a very refreshing way, especially when you blend genres.

00:13:33.640 Like even like Rico Nasty is someone I think about who's done the art of blending genres.

00:13:39.640 Ash Niko is another one.

00:13:40.640 I love Ash Niko.

00:13:41.640 All of whom you remind me of.

00:13:42.640 Yeah.

00:13:43.640 Like it's very, you're literally operating in that very specific area.

00:13:45.640 I love it.

00:13:46.640 Thank you.

00:13:47.640 It's incredible.

00:13:48.640 No, it's an honor.

00:13:49.640 I was going to ask like, what were your like musical inspirations?

00:13:51.640 And you just kind of listed some.

00:13:52.640 Yeah.

00:13:53.640 Like Grimes, Prince.

00:13:54.640 Yeah.

00:13:55.640 I'm like, I feel like Kate Bush is my big one that I always cite that I'm like,

00:13:58.640 I was like, I love her so much.

00:14:02.640 Um, but yeah, no, I'm like, and just a lot of like, just not in the 80s band, but I feel

00:14:08.640 like some, I feel like I don't know.

00:14:10.640 I, I struggle with names, but I know one song like, Oh, this is like this song and this song

00:14:15.640 and this song and this song all came together.

00:14:17.640 And that's, that's me.

00:14:18.640 That's, that's the gist of it.

00:14:21.640 Um, but yeah, I feel like those are like the main ones that I'm like, y'all know their

00:14:25.640 artistry is incredible and amazing and something that I hope to emulate, um, now in the future

00:14:31.640 as well.

00:14:32.640 Yeah.

00:14:33.640 Amazing.

00:14:34.640 Thank you.

00:14:35.640 Who do you, um, like listen to now?

00:14:36.640 Like what's, who's inspiring you now in the music space?

00:14:38.640 Ooh, that's a good one.

00:14:40.640 Um, I feel like, I feel like I've been trying to get out of my comfort zone a lot and like

00:14:47.640 trying to, cause I, I will quite literally listen to the same song again and again, again.

00:14:52.640 I get it.

00:14:53.640 Me too.

00:14:54.640 I get that.

00:14:55.640 So I'm like, no, you have to get out.

00:14:58.640 You have to try stuff.

00:14:59.640 And so I've been listening to this band.

00:15:02.640 I think they're also, they could be eighties or nineties called Los Prisioneros.

00:15:06.640 Um, and they have a song called Trenouser, which I like how I'm like, Oh, like I, I don't

00:15:11.640 like, I try not to listen to a song again and again.

00:15:14.640 I listened to that song again and again.

00:15:16.640 I listened to it on the way here, but I love it.

00:15:19.640 I was like, but I love it.

00:15:20.640 And it's just something it's now something new.

00:15:22.640 So I'm like, you know what?

00:15:23.640 I, I, I went myself halfway in that.

00:15:26.640 Amazing.

00:15:27.640 And so, yeah.

00:15:28.640 Do you have any like dream collaborations music wise?

00:15:31.640 Like something you would be like, Oh, I would die to do that.

00:15:33.640 That would be so awesome.

00:15:34.640 Oh man.

00:15:35.640 I say, see my, I'm horrible at collaborate.

00:15:38.640 I'm horrible at collaborations.

00:15:41.640 I'm really bad to collaborate with.

00:15:43.640 I'm really bad.

00:15:44.640 I'm like, I get too shy.

00:15:47.640 Oh, I moved the mic.

00:15:48.640 Sorry.

00:15:49.640 I get too shy.

00:15:51.640 I get like in my head a lot and I'm just like, Oh man.

00:15:55.640 Well, let me tell you something about this show.

00:15:57.640 This is the manifestation hub.

00:15:59.640 Really?

00:16:00.640 So if you have someone you want to work with, you, you say it here.

00:16:03.640 Really?

00:16:04.640 Because it shall come true.

00:16:05.640 It shall come true.

00:16:06.640 Yes.

00:16:07.640 I make it.

00:16:08.640 So my third, my third eyes on and open.

00:16:10.640 I'm dead.

00:16:11.640 So if there is someone like, who would you love to work with?

00:16:14.640 Hmm.

00:16:15.640 Hmm.

00:16:16.640 I think I would love to, I would love to work with Dochi.

00:16:20.640 Oh, that would be so amazing.

00:16:22.640 Oh, the way I got a chill.

00:16:24.640 Loki, I got a chill just now.

00:16:27.640 Dochi.

00:16:28.640 I say, um, Tyler, the creator.

00:16:31.640 Oh my God.

00:16:32.640 I thought of Tyler when you were talking earlier.

00:16:34.640 Because you remind me of him too.

00:16:35.640 Yeah.

00:16:36.640 Thank you.

00:16:37.640 So fucking awesome.

00:16:38.640 I'm like, I'm trying, I'm trying to think.

00:16:39.640 I'm trying to just like throw it out there.

00:16:40.640 If it's the manifestation.

00:16:42.640 Um, I feel like those are, I was like, I feel like those are top three though.

00:16:45.640 Like I was just like, I feel like that would be really, just a really cool combo.

00:16:49.640 Oh, I would die to see that.

00:16:51.640 Really?

00:16:52.640 Yes.

00:16:53.640 I would love that.

00:16:54.640 I'm like, I'll, I'll work hard.

00:16:55.640 Geniuses all in the room together.

00:16:56.640 I'm the, I mean, one of them, I'm just kind of there.

00:16:59.640 Okay.

00:17:00.640 Miss Dartmouth masters and robots.

00:17:03.640 I was like, I'll just take their energy and just like, hopefully like.

00:17:08.640 No, I think that's incredible.

00:17:09.640 And honestly, I feel like Tyler, the creator talks about that a lot too.

00:17:11.640 About like not feeling beholden to one specific genre.

00:17:15.640 Yeah.

00:17:16.640 And being forced into one, but also like being confident that you can transcend genre.

00:17:20.640 Yeah.

00:17:21.640 And I feel like you can absolutely.

00:17:23.640 I'll be confident enough for the both of us in that.

00:17:25.640 Thank you.

00:17:26.640 Until you're ready.

00:17:27.640 Thank you.

00:17:28.640 Until you're ready to come through with me.

00:17:29.640 It's growing.

00:17:30.640 It is.

00:17:31.640 And it should be, you've earned it.

00:17:32.640 Thank you so much.

00:17:33.640 But speaking of, we're going to practice right now bragging on our own accomplishments.

00:17:36.640 Okay.

00:17:37.640 But like, what's been the coolest thing or the thing you're most proud of that you've

00:17:40.640 done so far?

00:17:41.640 Oh, the thing I'm most proud of, you know?

00:17:45.640 Okay.

00:17:46.640 The thing I'm most proud of there were, I'm like, I didn't want to look up my manager,

00:17:51.640 but I feel like he remembers this.

00:17:53.640 There were, um, so I, I did open, I opened for chapel and I opened for Conan and there

00:17:58.640 were going to be six days where it was like chapel, Conan, or Conan, Conan, chapel, Conan,

00:18:03.640 chapel, Conan, chapel, Conan, chapel.

00:18:05.640 Right.

00:18:06.640 And I was just like, I don't know if I could, I, I don't know if I could do this, but I did

00:18:13.640 it.

00:18:14.640 Quite a good problem to have.

00:18:15.640 Yeah.

00:18:16.640 It was, it was a good problem.

00:18:17.640 Yeah.

00:18:18.640 I was just like, it was like, just like the jet lag and flying and then performing and

00:18:21.640 like just like getting back.

00:18:23.640 And then I was just like, can I, can I do this for like six days straight?

00:18:26.640 And I know that like other people have, our other bands have probably done like more dates,

00:18:31.640 like back to back to back.

00:18:32.640 Um, I was just like.

00:18:33.640 Doesn't take from yours.

00:18:34.640 Yeah.

00:18:35.640 At all.

00:18:36.640 That is a lot to do.

00:18:37.640 Thank you.

00:18:38.640 And so I was just like, I don't, I don't know if I could do this, but I'm going to do

00:18:41.640 it.

00:18:42.640 Uh, and, um, I did it.

00:18:43.640 And you did.

00:18:44.640 Hell yeah.

00:18:45.640 I'm very proud of myself.

00:18:46.640 Cause I definitely, the first half of it was very like, I don't.

00:18:50.640 I don't.

00:18:51.640 Right.

00:18:52.640 I get it.

00:18:53.640 But I mean, I'm like, I look back.

00:18:55.640 I'm proud.

00:18:56.640 Would I do it again?

00:18:57.640 I don't know.

00:19:00.640 Hopefully.

00:19:01.640 Hopefully, but spiritually and physically, maybe not.

00:19:03.640 Yeah.

00:19:04.640 Right.

00:19:05.640 I get that.

00:19:06.640 That is, that is incredible.

00:19:08.640 Like performing is such a like taxing endeavor.

00:19:12.640 Like it's physically, spiritually, emotionally, all of it.

00:19:15.640 The fact that you were able to perform multiple days in a row for two huge acts and then also

00:19:20.640 perform to the level that you did.

00:19:22.640 Cause that was night two.

00:19:23.640 Was that in that same week?

00:19:24.640 Oh no.

00:19:25.640 That was like.

00:19:26.640 Different week.

00:19:27.640 Oh girl, you're tripping.

00:19:28.640 Different week.

00:19:29.640 But it was like, it was.

00:19:30.640 That's crazy then.

00:19:31.640 You had multiple weeks like that.

00:19:32.640 I came, I came back from, we had just finished Conan.

00:19:36.640 I'm like, okay, I got a couple.

00:19:37.640 It was like two days and it's like, okay, time to go back.

00:19:40.640 And I'm like.

00:19:41.640 Get back on that stage.

00:19:42.640 Yeah.

00:19:43.640 But no, I was like, I'm going to go back on that stage.

00:19:45.640 And you did.

00:19:46.640 And you killed.

00:19:47.640 That is incredible.

00:19:48.640 That is a huge feat.

00:19:49.640 Thank you so much.

00:19:50.640 How do you like touring?

00:19:51.640 Oh, hate it.

00:19:52.640 Absolutely.

00:19:53.640 Girl, me too.

00:19:54.640 And I'm so glad you said that.

00:19:55.640 Cause every time I asked people who tour, they're like, oh, I love it.

00:19:58.640 You're lying.

00:19:59.640 Yeah, exactly.

00:20:00.640 Liar.

00:20:01.640 We can't be the only ones who hate touring.

00:20:04.640 No, literally.

00:20:05.640 I just, I love meeting fans and I love performing for fans.

00:20:09.640 And that is exactly what I've said.

00:20:11.640 Yeah.

00:20:12.640 Everything in between ass.

00:20:14.640 Oh my God.

00:20:15.640 It sucks ass.

00:20:16.640 It sucks ass.

00:20:17.640 It's bad.

00:20:18.640 Yeah.

00:20:19.640 I mean, I'm with great people too.

00:20:20.640 Right.

00:20:21.640 And sometimes I'm just like, I, I was like, I know you feel the same way.

00:20:25.640 Cause I don't want to see your face.

00:20:26.640 Yeah.

00:20:27.640 It really, it really does get to a point where you're like, I need five from you.

00:20:30.640 Yeah.

00:20:31.640 I was like, I need.

00:20:32.640 Turn and face that way for a little bit.

00:20:33.640 I was like, I wish I had five days, but five minutes.

00:20:35.640 Yes.

00:20:36.640 I was like, please.

00:20:37.640 Um, but I mean, I was with good people.

00:20:40.640 I think I just was just like, I, wow.

00:20:43.640 It is.

00:20:44.640 It really, I've described it as like, it feels like you're living on the run.

00:20:47.640 Yeah.

00:20:48.640 Like, like someone's chasing me.

00:20:50.640 Exactly.

00:20:51.640 That's how it feels.

00:20:52.640 It feels like, yeah.

00:20:53.640 Like I'm running and I can never catch my breath.

00:20:55.640 Exactly.

00:20:56.640 Like the only time I have time to do anything is to like shower, change my underwear.

00:21:00.640 And then I got to get back on there.

00:21:01.640 And I'm like, and that's like, like I'm, I'm bullshit talking about it.

00:21:08.640 But like, all I do is like sit, sit down like this.

00:21:11.640 When I perform live, like I sit down like this and I just talk my shit for an hour straight.

00:21:16.640 Yours is way harder.

00:21:17.640 Nah.

00:21:18.640 So that's why I'm asking how is it?

00:21:19.640 Because like physically I'm sitting there and I'm like, God, I have to tell jokes for another hour.

00:21:23.640 But you're literally doing cartwheels on the stage.

00:21:26.640 Very different.

00:21:27.640 I don't know how you can tell jokes for it.

00:21:29.640 And like, are they like, like, do you do like a different bit?

00:21:32.640 Like every time.

00:21:33.640 Yeah.

00:21:34.640 Honestly, when I was on a long tour for my book and I was doing like live comedy.

00:21:38.640 Yeah.

00:21:39.640 We, the whole show is improv outside of like, we do like 10, 20 minutes in the beginning of just intro.

00:21:44.640 Like talk about what we saw that day, the city we're in, that kind of thing.

00:21:47.640 And then the next like 45 hour of it is like, we have a topic.

00:21:52.640 We have people submit stuff and then we just read them out loud and then riff for like, however long.

00:21:56.640 So like that's, it was a different show every night, but similar theme.

00:22:00.640 And I was like reusing bits in certain areas of the country.

00:22:04.640 Like I was like, well, this killed, so I'm going to use it again.

00:22:07.640 And then there were like certain jokes that like, for some reason would just absolutely murder a crowd in one city.

00:22:13.640 And then the next city over no laughs.

00:22:15.640 I'd be like, Oh, tabling that joke.

00:22:18.640 You guys don't like Planet of the Apes jokes.

00:22:20.640 Got it.

00:22:21.640 Oh, I hate when that happens.

00:22:23.640 I know.

00:22:24.640 Like you get like a dead city.

00:22:26.640 Right.

00:22:27.640 Yeah.

00:22:28.640 You're kind of like, okay.

00:22:29.640 In the room by myself.

00:22:30.640 Yeah.

00:22:31.640 But you at least like, or like, how'd I say it?

00:22:33.640 Like, I at least have a script, like kind of like with the songs.

00:22:36.640 Like I sing the same songs and stuff like that.

00:22:38.640 But I'm like, I can't imagine just like.

00:22:40.640 Well, that, that would make it harder for me, I think.

00:22:42.640 Really?

00:22:43.640 Because you're just performing.

00:22:44.640 Like, yeah.

00:22:45.640 Like, like the set is the set.

00:22:46.640 Like, if you guys aren't vibing with me, I still got to do the rest of the set.

00:22:52.640 Like you're with me for at least 30 minutes.

00:22:54.640 You're right.

00:22:55.640 Like at least mine, like at least mine, if they're not, if they're dead, like I'll find something to get them.

00:22:59.640 Like eventually, like, or I just start attacking them and then they find that funny.

00:23:03.640 Like, then they'll be like, ah, that's funny.

00:23:06.640 You know?

00:23:07.640 What's been the, can you like call out a city here?

00:23:09.640 Like what's been like the.

00:23:11.640 Like a not great city.

00:23:12.640 Yeah.

00:23:13.640 I'll share mine.

00:23:14.640 Oh yeah.

00:23:15.640 Please do.

00:23:16.640 Oh, me go first.

00:23:17.640 Let me think.

00:23:18.640 Um, it depends.

00:23:19.640 Like LA is great, but like, so I've done a couple shows in LA where sometimes, sometimes I feel like the bar is higher, like in cities where they're spoiled.

00:23:28.640 Right.

00:23:29.640 So like, so like New York, like LA, even like, I don't know, like what's another major, like San Francisco, like just like big major cities.

00:23:37.640 Like I think sometimes the crowds are a little like, like they're like, make me laugh harder than that.

00:23:42.640 Like a little bit, like they're a little stingy with the laughs, but like, um, I would say that was probably, I didn't have a, no, actually, you know what?

00:23:50.640 The worst Florida was Florida.

00:23:52.640 Really?

00:23:53.640 The great crowds in terms of laughs, but horrible in terms of just general manners.

00:23:57.640 Like, because everyone, those shows just so happened to be like Friday, Saturdays.

00:24:01.640 And like, you know, people get the drunkest on Friday, Saturdays.

00:24:04.640 Yeah.

00:24:05.640 And so there's like a bar in there.

00:24:06.640 And so they're like, that's when they start getting like, I want to heckle.

00:24:09.640 Like I want to yell.

00:24:10.640 I want to be a part of the show.

00:24:12.640 Like, so I would say Florida is probably like where I had the toughest crowds.

00:24:16.640 That's, and then like, I'm not even kidding.

00:24:18.640 One show I did.

00:24:19.640 I don't even fucking remember what city it was, but someone was being so rude and like talking too goddamn much.

00:24:24.640 Like, and it was driving me insane.

00:24:26.640 And I've like worked really hard to not be that person anymore.

00:24:28.640 So like I've been in therapy.

00:24:30.640 So I'm like trying to temper my anger.

00:24:32.640 Yeah.

00:24:33.640 But I'm doing the show with my sister and like, I like my sister was the first person I ever defended from bullies.

00:24:38.640 So like, I really hate when people are rude to her.

00:24:41.640 Yeah.

00:24:42.640 Especially.

00:24:43.640 And so like, every time my sister was trying to talk, there was someone in the back, like, just like, oh, yeah, yeah.

00:24:49.640 Like talking over her or like interrupting.

00:24:51.640 And it was like throwing off the flow of the show.

00:24:53.640 Yeah.

00:24:54.640 And then, and then we would have audience participation to some extent.

00:24:57.640 Like we'd ask them questions.

00:24:59.640 And so someone was interrupt, that same person interrupting again.

00:25:02.640 And then at one, that person in the audience was talking to me.

00:25:05.640 And then I went, can you pause really quick?

00:25:07.640 Who the fuck is talking?

00:25:09.640 And then I, and then the whole room got quiet.

00:25:11.640 And I said, shut the fuck up.

00:25:13.640 This is a show.

00:25:14.640 Thank you very much.

00:25:15.640 I'm sorry.

00:25:16.640 Go ahead.

00:25:17.640 No.

00:25:18.640 Did I go a little too hard?

00:25:19.640 No.

00:25:20.640 Probably.

00:25:21.640 And I was like, in personal life, no, but I did lose the room.

00:25:24.640 Oh.

00:25:25.640 Lost the room for about 20 minutes.

00:25:27.640 I was like, I had to earn their laughs back because then after that, it's like, they're too scared to keep talking.

00:25:32.640 Yeah.

00:25:33.640 So like, they're like watching almost like a hostage situation.

00:25:36.640 And I'm like, hey guys, guys, I know I kind of freaked out.

00:25:39.640 I bet.

00:25:40.640 Sorry about that.

00:25:41.640 But justified though.

00:25:42.640 You're right.

00:25:43.640 I think so.

00:25:44.640 I said, sorry guys.

00:25:46.640 I was like, I was a little too much.

00:25:48.640 Sorry about that.

00:25:49.640 What about you?

00:25:50.640 What was your worst one?

00:25:51.640 Damn.

00:25:52.640 I'm like, not to.

00:25:53.640 Okay.

00:25:54.640 So.

00:25:55.640 It's okay.

00:25:56.640 I'm like, I'm about to throw under the bus.

00:25:58.640 Sorry.

00:25:59.640 So on, I was like, when I was doing Conan's tour, I'd never performed at Cincinnati before.

00:26:05.640 And I did a, well, I had a song like with Cincinnati in it.

00:26:10.640 Like I like named, I named dropped them.

00:26:12.640 Okay.

00:26:13.640 And, um, and I was like, Oh, I'm gonna, it was like that, that one show.

00:26:18.640 I'm like, I want to do this song.

00:26:20.640 Cause I'm not going to do this song anywhere else.

00:26:21.640 So I want to do this song because I specifically say Cincinnati in this.

00:26:25.640 Yeah.

00:26:26.640 And so I go, I'm like, Oh, I like, this is going to be a great show.

00:26:29.640 Blah, blah, blah.

00:26:31.640 Like it was so I'm like, Oh my God.

00:26:38.640 And I did this song and like, they seem to like being named dropped, but it was just

00:26:42.640 like, Oh, and I was like, wow.

00:26:45.640 But also I feel that.

00:26:47.640 Okay.

00:26:48.640 So like, sometimes I, I, sometimes I put like, um, how do I say?

00:26:51.640 Like, I like do like, uh, like I put like a lot of makeup on my face and that day I did

00:26:57.640 like, I had like a pink corset.

00:26:58.640 So I'm like, Oh, I'm going to make my face pink.

00:27:00.640 So I did.

00:27:01.640 So I walked out there with like my pink corset and my pink face.

00:27:04.640 And like, I think people were just like, and I was just like, okay.

00:27:07.640 Boring.

00:27:08.640 Cincinnati's boring then.

00:27:10.640 They're boring.

00:27:11.640 I'm like, I'm sure.

00:27:12.640 Oh, a bitch can't get put a pink, a pink corset on with a pink face.

00:27:16.640 Oh, boring.

00:27:17.640 I'm like, I'm sure.

00:27:19.640 Like, I was like, maybe inside they felt some type, like they felt some type of way.

00:27:23.640 I don't know.

00:27:24.640 I did cry after that show.

00:27:25.640 Like I, it hurt me.

00:27:26.640 I'm so sorry.

00:27:27.640 I mean, like it, it happens.

00:27:29.640 Like it happens.

00:27:30.640 And I've interestingly have had worse shows.

00:27:33.640 So I'm like, you know what, this is, this is okay.

00:27:37.640 Like I'll win them over next time.

00:27:39.640 Yeah.

00:27:40.640 That's a them problem.

00:27:42.640 They're, they're late to the game.

00:27:44.640 And honestly, when I had Muna on.

00:27:46.640 Really?

00:27:47.640 And, um, have you met Muna?

00:27:48.640 Yeah.

00:27:49.640 I was, I think I've met everybody.

00:27:50.640 All three of them?

00:27:51.640 Yeah.

00:27:52.640 I was like, you guys, you're a manager.

00:27:54.640 I know.

00:27:55.640 I'm like, I think I've met everybody, but I was like, I meet Katie the most.

00:28:00.640 I'm like, I feel like I, I, yeah.

00:28:01.640 She's amazing.

00:28:02.640 Very, very cool.

00:28:03.640 They're all so funny and so amazing.

00:28:04.640 Yeah.

00:28:05.640 Yeah.

00:28:06.640 When I had them on, um, I talked to them about Taylor Swift's tour.

00:28:09.640 Really?

00:28:10.640 And they were like, oh, we started calling ourselves the hot dog act.

00:28:13.640 And I was like, oh, word.

00:28:14.640 And they said, yeah.

00:28:15.640 Cause you know, as soon as we come on, everyone goes and gets a hot dog.

00:28:19.640 No.

00:28:20.640 I was like, really?

00:28:21.640 They're like, I don't know if you've ever seen empty seats in a stadium before, but like a different kind of vibe, you know?

00:28:26.640 Oh no.

00:28:27.640 And I was laughing.

00:28:28.640 I was like, well, they don't know shit.

00:28:30.640 They don't know anything if they don't know Moon.

00:28:32.640 Are you crazy?

00:28:33.640 I was like, I love Moon.

00:28:34.640 I know.

00:28:35.640 Oh my gosh.

00:28:36.640 And that's, it was so funny.

00:28:37.640 So like, it's, you're right.

00:28:39.640 It is something that happens a lot, but it is one of those things where you're kind of like, all right.

00:28:44.640 Yeah.

00:28:45.640 Hey, my feelings are hurt.

00:28:46.640 Yeah.

00:28:47.640 Hey, love you though.

00:28:48.640 Love Ohio.

00:28:49.640 I love Ohio.

00:28:50.640 Like, just like, give me a little something, please.

00:28:54.640 Right.

00:28:55.640 No, seriously.

00:28:56.640 I did a show, like a comedy thing in New York once, and it wasn't like my standard kind of show.

00:29:05.640 So it was, it was a little bit of a different vibe, but all of that to say, cause I'm trying to be nondescript about it.

00:29:10.640 The, the audience was curated like to an extent, like they sold tickets to it.

00:29:16.640 It was a very specific kind of crowd.

00:29:18.640 Um, so when I did that show, like that show was like, it was good.

00:29:23.640 Like for the most part, I had the room.

00:29:25.640 Um, cause I was just doing standup and like, for the most part I had the room, but like, sometimes they were just not vibing.

00:29:33.640 And then like, obviously like when I, I sometimes would like specifically tailor my jokes to be like about men.

00:29:38.640 Cause like I make fun of men all the time and that's like my thing.

00:29:41.640 Period.

00:29:42.640 And so a lot of, a lot, a lot of girls come wanting to see men jokes, like men, man hating jokes.

00:29:46.640 Yeah.

00:29:47.640 Yeah.

00:29:48.640 I was like popping them off like one by one.

00:29:49.640 And then there was quite a few men in the audience.

00:29:51.640 And, uh, like some of them were literally like.

00:29:53.640 Yeah.

00:29:54.640 Yeah.

00:29:55.640 And I, and I even like, I did a little bit of crowd work, but like one of the jokes in the beginning, I said something, I was talking to one girl and then I was like, Oh, is this your man?

00:30:05.640 Like, are you, are y'all together?

00:30:06.640 And then the man, the, the dude got pissed because that wasn't his girlfriend.

00:30:10.640 That's his sister, which, and so they, and I go, I was like, Oh, is this your man?

00:30:15.640 And then he goes, no.

00:30:17.640 And like kind of talks loudly and goes, that's my sister.

00:30:20.640 That's my fucking sister.

00:30:21.640 Like he's pissed off at me.

00:30:22.640 Oh my God.

00:30:23.640 And I said, Oh my bad.

00:30:24.640 And then I said, well, also cause they were white.

00:30:27.640 Right.

00:30:28.640 And I was like, well, also y'all be doing that.

00:30:32.640 You guys do be doing that sometimes.

00:30:34.640 And so I won the room after I did that.

00:30:36.640 This dude was for real trying to press me.

00:30:38.640 And I was like, bro, I'm telling you.

00:30:39.640 Yeah.

00:30:40.640 Sorry.

00:30:41.640 My bad.

00:30:42.640 What do you think your sister's ugly?

00:30:46.640 I'm dead.

00:30:48.640 Don't answer that or do.

00:30:50.640 Let's see.

00:30:52.640 What's been the best show?

00:30:54.640 Like the most memorable, like, or the funnest or like one where you're like, I killed.

00:30:59.640 Whichever one.

00:31:01.640 Oh man.

00:31:03.640 Most memorable.

00:31:04.640 Most memorable.

00:31:05.640 I feel like, okay.

00:31:07.640 I feel like I w I was opening for Doja and it was, I think we were in Paris.

00:31:13.640 And like up until it's going to be, it's going to be a regular occurrence.

00:31:18.640 Like nobody really like, like no, nobody really knows me, but also like nobody really like, like sometimes like people are not fucking with the music like that.

00:31:25.640 And I feel like Europe, it was like, kind of like, but in Paris, for some reason, they really liked me in Paris.

00:31:37.640 Maybe they liked that.

00:31:38.640 The beats.

00:31:39.640 Yeah.

00:31:40.640 I was going to say, you would think Europeans would be fucking with you.

00:31:44.640 Yeah.

00:31:45.640 Cause the beats that you make are like very much so like what they like to listen to.

00:31:49.640 Yeah.

00:31:50.640 I was like, I thought I would, I thought I would hit them a little bit.

00:31:52.640 Right.

00:31:53.640 And so they were vibing hardcore.

00:31:54.640 They were vibing hardcore.

00:31:55.640 Love.

00:31:56.640 Like I got lights, like I got everything.

00:31:58.640 I was like, oh my gosh.

00:31:59.640 And like, usually I try to, cause I'm also a fan and I'm like, I want to see Doja before.

00:32:03.640 Cause if you haven't seen Doja before, so good.

00:32:06.640 I can't even imagine.

00:32:07.640 So, so good.

00:32:08.640 And so I'm like, I'mma go like in the audience and like, look.

00:32:11.640 And so I'm going and there's like, it was the first time a crowd of people were like,

00:32:14.640 following me and I'm like, oh, I have to go back.

00:32:17.640 I actually can't enjoy the show.

00:32:20.640 I was like, oh, I was like, oh shit.

00:32:23.640 Okay.

00:32:24.640 But it was, it was so much fun.

00:32:25.640 That's so cool.

00:32:26.640 It's nice getting reciprocations that cause then I can just like, I don't know.

00:32:30.640 I can just riff off and stuff like that.

00:32:32.640 Yeah.

00:32:33.640 And I also think too, it's like, that's the whole point of going to a concert.

00:32:37.640 Yeah.

00:32:38.640 Yeah.

00:32:39.640 Yeah.

00:32:40.640 Enjoy yourself.

00:32:41.640 Even if you're, even if you're unfamiliar with an act, like you're like, oh,

00:32:43.640 Yeah.

00:32:44.640 Yeah.

00:32:45.640 Yeah.

00:32:46.640 I'm livin' with this.

00:32:47.640 Literally.

00:32:48.640 How fun.

00:32:49.640 And in Paris too, it was so cool.

00:32:50.640 It was so cool.

00:32:51.640 But up until then I would just see a bunch of TikToks like, who is this bitch?

00:32:55.640 Like, what is that?

00:32:56.640 But like, it's interesting.

00:32:58.640 Cause I have like a, there's a side, particularly on TikTok that like really hate me.

00:33:03.640 And there's a side that will like go to the ends of the earth for me.

00:33:07.640 And you know what?

00:33:08.640 It was like, I love it.

00:33:10.640 Trust me.

00:33:11.640 I get that.

00:33:12.640 I love it.

00:33:13.640 If anyone understands that on that app, it's me.

00:33:16.640 It's me.

00:33:17.640 I was like, I love it.

00:33:18.640 Cause then I'm seeing like, you're not going to talk about my girl Hemlock like that.

00:33:22.640 I'm like, true.

00:33:23.640 Thank you.

00:33:24.640 And that's what you need.

00:33:25.640 Yeah.

00:33:26.640 Haters and diehards.

00:33:27.640 That's what you need.

00:33:28.640 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:29.640 I need both of them.

00:33:30.640 Yeah.

00:33:31.640 I was like, I need both.

00:33:32.640 Like I need both crowds.

00:33:33.640 Absolutely.

00:33:34.640 I was like, I love that.

00:33:35.640 Like that extreme reaction.

00:33:36.640 I love, I do love, like, even if it's like, I absolutely hate her.

00:33:40.640 You know what?

00:33:41.640 I love that I'm causing that reaction.

00:33:43.640 Yeah.

00:33:44.640 Well, art is meant to emote, like evoke something.

00:33:48.640 Yeah.

00:33:49.640 Exactly.

00:33:50.640 If it's hatred.

00:33:51.640 Well, first of all, you're a hater.

00:33:52.640 But second of all, that's the point.

00:33:53.640 Exactly.

00:33:54.640 It's the point.

00:33:55.640 It's quite literally my job.

00:33:56.640 And I think that's the beautiful thing about your artistry too, because I feel like artists

00:34:01.640 like you, like that is the point is to create.

00:34:03.640 Yeah.

00:34:04.640 The point is not to like get famous.

00:34:05.640 Yeah.

00:34:06.640 It's not to like go viral.

00:34:07.640 The point is to create something.

00:34:09.640 Yeah.

00:34:10.640 Like you're creating something so unique and special to you.

00:34:12.640 Thank you.

00:34:13.640 That you're being co-signed by these enormous, talented artists, right?

00:34:17.640 Awesome.

00:34:18.640 Ones who are all one of one brains.

00:34:19.640 Yeah.

00:34:20.640 Like all the artists that you're naming that have co-signed you are like revolutionizing

00:34:23.640 the music industry because they're doing something completely different.

00:34:26.640 Oh yeah.

00:34:27.640 Oh yeah.

00:34:28.640 And that's the track you're on bitch.

00:34:29.640 Period.

00:34:30.640 Thank you.

00:34:31.640 That's a wonderful thing.

00:34:32.640 Thank you.

00:34:33.640 And also like the people who hate you on TikTok, first of all, fuck that.

00:34:35.640 I'm dead.

00:34:36.640 But second of all, it's fun to hate things for them.

00:34:38.640 It is.

00:34:39.640 People who are different.

00:34:40.640 Yeah.

00:34:41.640 When, when people are different and very unique and like their approach to whatever medium

00:34:44.640 is popular, like movies, TV shows, music, like they're, of course, they're going to

00:34:49.640 be like, what is this?

00:34:50.640 I don't know if I can get it.

00:34:51.640 And I get the same shit to this day.

00:34:53.640 I still have people telling me, I don't understand like her thing.

00:34:57.640 It's not for you to understand.

00:34:58.640 I'm dead.

00:34:59.640 I'm dead.

00:35:00.640 It's okay.

00:35:01.640 And part of it is definitely racism, but I, um, yeah, I was like adding it on there,

00:35:09.640 but I'm like, you know what?

00:35:10.640 You do you, you know what I mean?

00:35:12.640 And if anything that speaks to your artistry also, because above all you rise, right?

00:35:18.640 Like you're still, you're still succeeding.

00:35:20.640 Even with all these invisible barriers in place too.

00:35:23.640 Yeah.

00:35:24.640 You're still fucking, you're still fucking doing it.

00:35:26.640 Yes.

00:35:27.640 Period.

00:35:28.640 Do what you gotta do.

00:35:29.640 Yeah.

00:35:30.640 I get, I get being polarizing.

00:35:31.640 I'm very polarizing on that stupid app too.

00:35:33.640 On that God forsaken app.

00:35:35.640 I'm also very polarizing on there.

00:35:37.640 But I love it though.

00:35:38.640 I was like, I love, I love, but I was like, it shouldn't be that polarizing.

00:35:43.640 You know what I mean?

00:35:44.640 Right.

00:35:45.640 But if it is, then I love it.

00:35:46.640 You know what I mean?

00:35:47.640 I usually do.

00:35:48.640 So yeah.

00:35:49.640 And that's honestly like all the people you know, that's how they all found me.

00:35:51.640 Yeah.

00:35:52.640 Was on, was being polarizing as hell on that app.

00:35:53.640 That's why you're here.

00:35:54.640 So.

00:35:55.640 That's how they found you.

00:35:56.640 Clearly something's working.

00:35:58.640 Exactly.

00:35:59.640 Exactly.

00:36:00.640 What's, uh, what's been the coolest, like, or like best piece of advice you've gotten

00:36:04.640 from all these amazing people that have been working with you?

00:36:07.640 Oh man.

00:36:08.640 I, I feel like it was, I don't know who said it either.

00:36:12.640 Oh, my B.

00:36:13.640 Um, common thread.

00:36:15.640 It stuck with me.

00:36:16.640 Yeah.

00:36:17.640 It stuck with me.

00:36:18.640 Um, but it was, it was such like, um, I feel like it's such like, like, yeah.

00:36:24.640 Like, uh, I feel like if I say this, it's putting kind of gonna put the person under

00:36:28.640 the bus, but I don't mean it in that way.

00:36:30.640 It's like, it's like things that I should know, but I feel like it's like, yeah.

00:36:34.640 Like, like, like, like almost like a, like a dumb moment for me.

00:36:39.640 And it was just quite literally like, you need to keep doing what you're doing.

00:36:43.640 You need to keep being yourself.

00:36:45.640 Yeah.

00:36:46.640 And I think that it, but I think it was given at a time where I was like, cause I got a

00:36:52.640 lot of the, Oh, like she's this like weird, quirky girl and stuff like that.

00:36:55.640 And at first I was like, kind of like, you know, like, yeah, blah, blah, blah.

00:36:58.640 And then I'm like, Oh, Oh, like, am I really that?

00:37:03.640 Am I really, am I really?

00:37:05.640 Yeah.

00:37:06.640 Yeah.

00:37:07.640 Sorry.

00:37:08.640 The second guess a little bit.

00:37:09.640 Um, and I, it's, it's interesting too.

00:37:10.640 Cause it's like, I don't really, I was like, I don't view myself and like other people's

00:37:15.640 perspective, but I think like, then I was like really, really letting it get to me.

00:37:19.640 Um, and I think like it being like, you know, you keep doing your, yourself and that's really

00:37:25.640 all you can do in this world.

00:37:27.640 I'm like, you know what?

00:37:29.640 Yeah.

00:37:30.640 Absolutely.

00:37:31.640 Yeah.

00:37:34.640 Well, it feels obvious, but it's not as easy to think about in the moment.

00:37:38.640 Yeah.

00:37:39.640 When you're in that feeling.

00:37:40.640 Definitely.

00:37:41.640 I'm like, why am I thinking so hard on this?

00:37:43.640 This is not, I would rather like this energy that I'm using to kind of like go down this

00:37:48.640 rabbit hole.

00:37:49.640 I could spend like doing a song or like doing something else.

00:37:52.640 I don't know.

00:37:53.640 It's also, it's very true.

00:37:55.640 And also the fact that it speaks to why you've succeeded is because it's authentic to

00:38:00.640 you.

00:38:01.640 I've been many a person who have tried on different like looks and different things

00:38:06.640 to try and be different, like quirky, unique, like fake, a fake kind of court.

00:38:10.640 Yeah.

00:38:11.640 Yeah.

00:38:12.640 The reason why yours is working is because it is authentic to you and audiences are not

00:38:15.640 stupid.

00:38:16.640 Right.

00:38:17.640 Like, especially now in the age of like TikTok audiences are so like hyper focused on shit

00:38:22.640 like that.

00:38:23.640 There's no way that they would be uplifting you if they thought for a second it was fake.

00:38:28.640 People who are claiming it's fake are just again, haters.

00:38:31.640 Right.

00:38:32.640 But you know, you know what you like and you know who you really are.

00:38:34.640 Yeah.

00:38:35.640 And in those moments too, it's hard to not feel like maybe I should change something or

00:38:38.640 maybe something, or maybe I should just not do this because it doesn't feel good to hear

00:38:42.640 that stuff, especially when you're being perceived on the internet.

00:38:45.640 Like it's the internet has a way of ruining anything like or making everything awesome.

00:38:51.640 Like those are the only two things like it does.

00:38:54.640 And like when it starts to make you think more about yourself, that's when you're like,

00:38:58.640 you know what?

00:38:59.640 I need to get off my phone.

00:39:00.640 Yeah.

00:39:01.640 Go spend time in the real world and remind myself why I'm doing what I'm doing.

00:39:05.640 Yeah.

00:39:06.640 But I'm glad you and I'm assuming and I'm hoping that you have a very good like support

00:39:09.640 system.

00:39:10.640 Oh yeah.

00:39:11.640 No, definitely.

00:39:12.640 Who support your artistry and your art.

00:39:13.640 No, definitely.

00:39:14.640 And I have people really ruling for me and I think that that helps a lot.

00:39:19.640 Hell yeah.

00:39:20.640 Just like when people understand you and your project and just what you're trying to do,

00:39:25.640 it helps tremendously.

00:39:26.640 Yeah.

00:39:27.640 And that's something that I think that is just, it's just important for like every artist

00:39:32.640 to like just have a good support system around you.

00:39:34.640 Right.

00:39:35.640 Because when you don't, it's really evidence.

00:39:37.640 Like when you, it takes a toll on like everybody and yourself.

00:39:41.640 That's so true.

00:39:42.640 Like nobody, how do I say?

00:39:44.640 Like nobody really, it's like no words really happy.

00:39:47.640 Like, I don't know.

00:39:48.640 Right.

00:39:49.640 You're, you're so real for that.

00:39:50.640 Cause I felt the same way when I started doing this and I like tell people all the time

00:39:54.640 to make friends in the, in the, like make community here, like in this industry, because

00:39:59.640 it's hard to relate to your problems once you start doing this.

00:40:02.640 But also it's like, without support system, I see now I'm like, I get why people go nuts.

00:40:07.640 Yeah.

00:40:08.640 That's what I was like.

00:40:09.640 I was like, I get it.

00:40:11.640 I get it.

00:40:12.640 I will never judge.

00:40:13.640 I'm so sorry.

00:40:14.640 No, I've said the same thing.

00:40:17.640 I've literally been like, I remember as a kid being like, well, I mean, you're rich and famous.

00:40:21.640 I'm sure it's fine.

00:40:22.640 Yeah.

00:40:23.640 No, literally.

00:40:24.640 And now I'm like, damn.

00:40:25.640 I get it.

00:40:26.640 I get it.

00:40:27.640 I understand.

00:40:28.640 I'm sorry for judging.

00:40:29.640 Especially women.

00:40:30.640 Yeah.

00:40:31.640 Especially women.

00:40:32.640 I was like, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

00:40:34.640 Makes a lot of sense.

00:40:35.640 I get it.

00:40:36.640 So I don't think I would not have survived in the, I mean, it's still prevalent, but like

00:40:41.640 the whole, like, oh, like if you're a, like you're, if you're a size like two or three or

00:40:47.640 whatever, like you're fat.

00:40:48.640 Right.

00:40:49.640 If you're like, whatchamacallit, like that whole, just criticizing the looks, criticizing

00:40:54.640 the, I'm like, wow.

00:40:55.640 I know in like the early 2000s.

00:40:57.640 Yeah.

00:40:58.640 That culture.

00:40:59.640 I'm like, oh, girl.

00:41:00.640 I was like, you're lucky any of them made it out alive.

00:41:02.640 Now that I, for real, I talk about it in therapy a lot.

00:41:06.640 Really?

00:41:07.640 Yeah.

00:41:08.640 Because I, because I truly believe now I am like suffering from agoraphobia to some extent.

00:41:11.640 Oh man.

00:41:12.640 Just because like being perceived on that level is something I never prepared for, could

00:41:17.640 have never prepared for.

00:41:18.640 Yeah.

00:41:19.640 In person and stuff.

00:41:20.640 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:21.640 So like, I've been working through that in therapy for years.

00:41:23.640 No diagnoses, no arrivals just yet, working on its tail.

00:41:27.640 Um, but I remember my therapist told me this once when I was like, I was describing to

00:41:31.640 her that sometimes, uh, the like visibility I have and like in, in public and shit like

00:41:37.640 that, uh, makes me feel like a monkey in the zoo.

00:41:40.640 And I was telling her and it feels like, you know, they can jeer at me and yell at me and

00:41:45.640 throw shit at me and like hit my glass hard as shit.

00:41:48.640 And I was like, and then like when I like, can't take it anymore, I like charge the glass

00:41:52.640 a little too much.

00:41:53.640 And then they put me behind, they like dark me from the side and then put me behind that

00:41:57.640 wall.

00:41:58.640 And then I'm not allowed to be on display anymore for a couple of weeks.

00:42:00.640 And I was like, and it's making me feel like I'm going insane.

00:42:03.640 Like I was like, I feel like I'm going insane.

00:42:05.640 And then she was like, well, you know, that makes sense because like we were kind of working

00:42:10.640 through what makes me feel that way.

00:42:12.640 Yeah.

00:42:13.640 And I was just talking about the internet and being perceived on it and all that shit.

00:42:16.640 And then she was like, well, that makes sense.

00:42:17.640 You know, because when you're damned, if you do damned, if you don't, when you're presented

00:42:20.640 with that, uh, morality choice over and over and over again, those are called double binds.

00:42:25.640 Right.

00:42:26.640 And she goes, and honestly, like, you know, clinically and like statistically those, when

00:42:30.640 you encounter frequent double binds, um, it is known to induce psychosis, especially

00:42:35.640 in women.

00:42:36.640 Whoa.

00:42:37.640 And she said, especially in women.

00:42:38.640 Especially in women.

00:42:39.640 And then I said, and she goes, so we'll work through that.

00:42:43.640 I was like, oh, so I feel insane.

00:42:45.640 Cause I am going insane.

00:42:47.640 I have to make a couple of calls.

00:42:50.640 That worked though.

00:42:51.640 Oh my God.

00:42:52.640 And I was like, it was like weirdly validating, but it does start to make you feel like kooky.

00:42:57.640 Yeah.

00:42:58.640 After a while, like the bow, especially now that we're doing it in this era where like,

00:43:02.640 we're constantly being perceived, not as a, just as a performer, but as like a person

00:43:08.640 to like, everyone just feels like, cause they know you from the internet.

00:43:11.640 Yeah.

00:43:12.640 They know you as a person.

00:43:13.640 Yeah.

00:43:14.640 So they're like, I know exactly who you are and I know everything about your morals.

00:43:16.640 And yeah, I think you're a bad person.

00:43:18.640 I can't take that shit, bro.

00:43:20.640 Oh my God.

00:43:21.640 Yeah.

00:43:22.640 It happened.

00:43:23.640 It's crazy.

00:43:24.640 And I, so that's why I, I feel you.

00:43:26.640 I'm glad we can have community on that.

00:43:29.640 Two bitches going crazy together.

00:43:32.640 Love it.

00:43:33.640 Hey.

00:43:34.640 Hey.

00:43:37.640 Bound to happen.

00:43:38.640 Bound to, but I was like, but I'm glad that, um, I was like, I need to, I need to

00:43:43.640 do therapy.

00:43:44.640 I haven't, I'm not in therapy.

00:43:45.640 Oh, I know.

00:43:46.640 I have to, I have to, but I didn't either.

00:43:48.640 Like the first, like, I think like year and a half I was doing this.

00:43:51.640 I was free balling it.

00:43:52.640 Yeah.

00:43:53.640 And then I was like, I want to rip my eyelids off.

00:43:56.640 Maybe I should go to therapy.

00:43:58.640 I gotta do something about this.

00:44:01.640 I need intervention immediately.

00:44:03.640 Oh my God.

00:44:04.640 Yeah.

00:44:05.640 But that is something I tell people all the time, especially if you do this, like if

00:44:09.640 you're like famous or known in any way, shape or form.

00:44:12.640 Yeah.

00:44:13.640 Go to therapy.

00:44:14.640 Yeah.

00:44:15.640 You need it.

00:44:16.640 I need to implement this.

00:44:17.640 Yeah.

00:44:18.640 It's like, it's really nice.

00:44:19.640 It's nice.

00:44:20.640 And it's a nice place where you can like offload all of your anxieties and fears and like disdain

00:44:25.640 with the industry in a way that doesn't, you know, come up like, cause my thing was that

00:44:30.640 I worked through in therapy a lot.

00:44:31.640 It's like when I do talk about what I do struggle with doing this for a living, it feels, well,

00:44:36.640 it doesn't, it doesn't feel like it.

00:44:37.640 I've seen people say it before where they're like, you sound fucking ungrateful, which is

00:44:41.640 like, I already struggle with that guilt because I am very grateful, but I also am being tortured

00:44:46.640 mentally in ways I could have never prepared for.

00:44:49.640 Yeah.

00:44:50.640 Yeah.

00:44:51.640 Let's split the difference.

00:44:52.640 Yeah.

00:44:53.640 A big like meat in the middle.

00:44:54.640 Yeah.

00:44:55.640 Different set of problems you're encountering.

00:44:56.640 Right.

00:44:57.640 Right.

00:44:58.640 I'm sure like, I was like, maybe like, I don't know.

00:45:00.640 I was like, cause I, I, I see a lot, or maybe I'm trying to think artist wise.

00:45:04.640 So like people, people I've been like, Oh, like you have like money and stuff like that.

00:45:08.640 You have this.

00:45:09.640 Like, yes, you do.

00:45:10.640 And it was like, and that offsets a lot.

00:45:12.640 Right.

00:45:13.640 But there's also other problems that come up that like, you just might not be equipped

00:45:18.640 to, to handle.

00:45:19.640 To handle and process.

00:45:20.640 Yeah.

00:45:21.640 Yeah.

00:45:22.640 Absolutely.

00:45:23.640 And again, if you don't have the support system, it just, it quite literally is downhill.

00:45:28.640 Yeah.

00:45:29.640 And that's why when you're like, I get it.

00:45:31.640 I was like, I get it too.

00:45:33.640 I get it.

00:45:34.640 I was like, clapped.

00:45:35.640 Yeah.

00:45:36.640 I was like, wow.

00:45:37.640 My empathy has only grown for famous women, especially as I've spent more time doing this.

00:45:42.640 Like my empathy is fast.

00:45:43.640 Yeah.

00:45:44.640 I'm like, Oh yeah.

00:45:45.640 I'm like, man, especially girls have been doing it for a long time.

00:45:48.640 Long time.

00:45:49.640 Yeah.

00:45:50.640 I was like, you are under that microscope.

00:45:51.640 For real girl.

00:45:52.640 I'm like, you're better than me.

00:45:53.640 And you never get, it was like, never gets out.

00:45:56.640 Yeah.

00:45:57.640 Just always like on a slide.

00:45:58.640 And then I'm just like, Oh wow.

00:46:00.640 That is, that is, that's a lot.

00:46:03.640 Yeah.

00:46:04.640 Exactly.

00:46:05.640 Well, I'm happy to hear you're like supported and you have, you have a good network around

00:46:08.640 you.

00:46:09.640 I'm so happy to hear that.

00:46:10.640 Great friends.

00:46:11.640 I was like, great team.

00:46:12.640 Pretty chill.

00:46:13.640 That's great.

00:46:14.640 Oh, thank God.

00:46:15.640 You're too, you're too talented to not have any less.

00:46:18.640 You need that.

00:46:19.640 Okay.

00:46:20.640 So I do have some fun facts about you.

00:46:22.640 Oh man.

00:46:23.640 And everyone's, everyone's most nerve wracking part of the show.

00:46:27.640 I'm like, God, I guess you'll tell me if they're fun.

00:46:31.640 You'll let me know.

00:46:32.640 Okay.

00:46:33.640 Okay.

00:46:34.640 Okay.

00:46:35.640 Fun facts.

00:46:36.640 Well, this first one we did already talk about, which was that you have a bachelor's degree

00:46:39.640 in biology and a master's in medical informatics.

00:46:42.640 Yeah.

00:46:43.640 From Dartmouth.

00:46:44.640 Yeah.

00:46:45.640 Yeah.

00:46:46.640 Smart, smart, smart, smart, smart, smart.

00:46:47.640 That's all I heard when I read that.

00:46:48.640 Okay.

00:46:49.640 This next one says you once did research on the color variation between leopard geckos and

00:46:53.640 lemon frost geckos.

00:46:54.640 I did.

00:46:55.640 Holy shit.

00:46:56.640 I did.

00:46:57.640 I did.

00:46:58.640 I think at UCLA.

00:46:59.640 UCLA.

00:47:00.640 Yeah.

00:47:01.640 Yes.

00:47:02.640 UCLA summer internship, 2019.

00:47:03.640 What the hell?

00:47:06.640 How do you guys know that?

00:47:08.640 That is so fucking cool.

00:47:11.640 It was cool.

00:47:12.640 It was like one of the, I'm like, it was, it was actually like, cause it was my first

00:47:16.640 time in LA and I really liked LA when I first like got here.

00:47:19.640 I was like, well, I was in like different, different time.

00:47:22.640 That's the, that's the allure of before you live here.

00:47:25.640 Yeah.

00:47:26.640 Yeah.

00:47:27.640 Yeah.

00:47:28.640 I'm like, I did.

00:47:29.640 I was like, and I had no clue what I was doing and I was just like, Oh my God.

00:47:32.640 And my, um, my, like my lab partner at the time, Ryan shout out to Ryan, like was helping

00:47:38.640 me nonstop.

00:47:39.640 I felt so bad, but I was, I was well versed in like the biology aspect, but not really in

00:47:44.640 like doing the analysis.

00:47:46.640 And I was like, yeah, but I loved it.

00:47:49.640 Did you, do you like animals?

00:47:51.640 No, no, no.

00:47:56.640 Well, I'll study them.

00:47:57.640 Yeah.

00:47:58.640 Cause I don't like, I just generally ask if you like them and you're all no, that's fair.

00:48:07.640 Yeah.

00:48:08.640 And honestly, my fiance would geek about that fact because he, he loves animals, but especially

00:48:12.640 like reptiles and insects.

00:48:14.640 Really?

00:48:15.640 So he loves geckos.

00:48:16.640 When I tell him that he's like, which kind?

00:48:18.640 Leopard?

00:48:19.640 Like he's so, he's so that kind of, what kind, what species?

00:48:23.640 Like he knows, he just loves animals.

00:48:25.640 But that's why I was like, that's sick though.

00:48:27.640 What a cool internship.

00:48:29.640 Did you enjoy doing that research?

00:48:31.640 Hmm.

00:48:32.640 I enjoyed the, I enjoyed the internship.

00:48:37.640 Yeah.

00:48:38.640 The experience of the internship.

00:48:39.640 Yeah.

00:48:40.640 I don't know about the research, but the experience was very nice.

00:48:44.640 That is such a cool, fun fact.

00:48:47.640 Honestly, it's fucking insane.

00:48:49.640 All yours being smarty pants ones.

00:48:51.640 Okay.

00:48:52.640 Uh, it says you once won a pet goldfish at a church fair that died the next day.

00:48:56.640 It died the next day.

00:48:58.640 And that, did I say that so barely?

00:49:01.640 Canon event.

00:49:02.640 Canon event.

00:49:03.640 I fear.

00:49:04.640 Really?

00:49:05.640 I fear that's a Canon event.

00:49:06.640 You've also won a pet goldfish at church that died the next day.

00:49:09.640 I did.

00:49:10.640 Yeah.

00:49:11.640 But it was a church carnival.

00:49:12.640 A church carnival.

00:49:13.640 Wow.

00:49:14.640 I'm starting to think we're the same person.

00:49:15.640 I was like.

00:49:16.640 Uh oh.

00:49:17.640 Getting a little nervous.

00:49:19.640 I was like, maybe they just have weak lifespan.

00:49:22.640 Weak lifespan.

00:49:23.640 Short lifespan.

00:49:24.640 Yeah, they do.

00:49:25.640 Well, weak too, apparently.

00:49:26.640 Yeah.

00:49:27.640 Clearly not a very good immune system.

00:49:28.640 No, literally.

00:49:29.640 No, you're, you're so right for that though.

00:49:30.640 Were you sad?

00:49:31.640 Yeah, but I was like.

00:49:32.640 Or you just don't really care for animals?

00:49:34.640 I mean.

00:49:35.640 It was like, I wanted to care for animals, but I feel like then I was just like, it's

00:49:39.640 just not in the cards for me.

00:49:40.640 That's T.

00:49:41.640 Yeah.

00:49:42.640 I get that.

00:49:43.640 Yeah.

00:49:44.640 I feel that way about a lot of, like a lot of animals.

00:49:45.640 I say, I'm laughing at you saying that, but like, if you were to ask me how many, what

00:49:48.640 animals I don't like.

00:49:49.640 Yes.

00:49:50.640 I'd have a, I'd have an insanely long list.

00:49:52.640 Like there's like, I say like, not me, I love the animals, but a lot of them scare

00:49:57.640 me and I don't like them.

00:49:58.640 Yeah.

00:49:59.640 No, I was like, let's conserve the, but conserve, but also.

00:50:02.640 Oh, yeah.

00:50:03.640 But I have a very, I have a similar, I think like, like relationship to like sea creatures

00:50:08.640 or like birds, which are like, they, they scare me all the most.

00:50:12.640 Me.

00:50:13.640 I would say like, my relationship with them is very like, I don't want any problems.

00:50:17.640 Mmm.

00:50:18.640 I, I don't want to harm you.

00:50:19.640 I, I wish you the best.

00:50:20.640 I know.

00:50:21.640 Like, I just know my place is on land and away from you.

00:50:24.640 Yes.

00:50:25.640 Like that's all I know.

00:50:26.640 Yes.

00:50:27.640 And I.

00:50:28.640 No beef.

00:50:29.640 I.

00:50:30.640 That's why I feel like I respect you.

00:50:31.640 I feel that a hundred percent.

00:50:33.640 Yeah.

00:50:34.640 Yeah.

00:50:35.640 You're like, I don't hate you.

00:50:36.640 I don't want anyone.

00:50:37.640 I don't want you to die.

00:50:38.640 I just like, don't want to be near you.

00:50:39.640 Exactly.

00:50:40.640 I get that.

00:50:41.640 And honestly, if you get near me, you might, which is why I'm like, don't.

00:50:44.640 Don't make me do that.

00:50:45.640 Don't make me do this.

00:50:47.640 I don't want to.

00:50:48.640 You're going to turn me into a monster.

00:50:50.640 Yeah.

00:50:51.640 I get that.

00:50:52.640 Really.

00:50:53.640 That's true.

00:50:54.640 Okay.

00:50:55.640 This next one says that, um, you, you have said that your style inspiration is Miss Frizzle.

00:51:00.640 I love Miss Frizzle.

00:51:01.640 Yeah.

00:51:02.640 Oh my gosh.

00:51:03.640 It's just so underrated.

00:51:04.640 So.

00:51:05.640 That is so T.

00:51:06.640 I love that.

00:51:07.640 Do I give Miss Frizzle right now?

00:51:08.640 Yes.

00:51:09.640 Absolutely.

00:51:10.640 Oh, honestly, you know what I was thinking of, um, with your look right now?

00:51:13.640 It's like monster high.

00:51:14.640 Really?

00:51:15.640 I love like a monster high doll.

00:51:16.640 Like, you know what I'm saying?

00:51:17.640 Oh man.

00:51:18.640 Like a cunty little outfit.

00:51:19.640 Thank you.

00:51:20.640 I give cunt.

00:51:21.640 Yes.

00:51:22.640 That's all you've served since you came in here.

00:51:24.640 Really?

00:51:25.640 I'm full.

00:51:28.640 Thank you.

00:51:29.640 Oh, I'm taking that compliment.

00:51:30.640 Yes.

00:51:31.640 Oh my God.

00:51:32.640 Yes.

00:51:33.640 I love my personality.

00:51:34.640 Did you like, uh, the magic school bus?

00:51:35.640 You know, I found it creepy the first time.

00:51:38.640 I, I get that.

00:51:39.640 I was like, but I think the first episode I watched was the one, like they went inside

00:51:44.640 one of the student's body.

00:51:45.640 Yeah.

00:51:46.640 And I was just like, this feels so invasive.

00:51:48.640 This is so weird, but I mean.

00:51:50.640 Without consent.

00:51:51.640 Yeah.

00:51:52.640 Nice.

00:51:53.640 But, but I mean, I, I, I, I support, I support.

00:51:58.640 You like her aura though.

00:51:59.640 I like her aura.

00:52:00.640 Yeah.

00:52:01.640 What she's serving.

00:52:02.640 Yeah.

00:52:03.640 I love that too.

00:52:04.640 Yeah.

00:52:05.640 You know what else you remind me of?

00:52:06.640 Fancy Nancy.

00:52:07.640 Wait, no.

00:52:08.640 It's like a children's book and she loves like accessories.

00:52:11.640 Does she have the scarf?

00:52:12.640 Or am I?

00:52:13.640 Yes.

00:52:14.640 She has a scarf.

00:52:15.640 Yeah.

00:52:16.640 She wears like tutus.

00:52:17.640 Yeah.

00:52:18.640 Yeah.

00:52:19.640 Yeah.

00:52:20.640 I love that.

00:52:21.640 Thank you.

00:52:22.640 I love that you love Miss Frizzle.

00:52:23.640 Like that's your inspo.

00:52:24.640 That's so sick.

00:52:25.640 Oh yeah.

00:52:26.640 Oh yeah.

00:52:27.640 And she loved a theme.

00:52:28.640 I know.

00:52:29.640 She loved a theme.

00:52:30.640 She loved a theme.

00:52:31.640 And earrings always match theme.

00:52:32.640 Literally.

00:52:33.640 Love it.

00:52:34.640 I was like, my earrings match my leg.

00:52:37.640 Period.

00:52:38.640 Okay.

00:52:39.640 Miss Frizzle.

00:52:40.640 Well, I've never seen you and Miss Frizzle in the same room.

00:52:41.640 So.

00:52:42.640 Uh, uh, uh.

00:52:43.640 At the same time.

00:52:44.640 Oh yeah.

00:52:45.640 Oh yeah.

00:52:46.640 Cut me.

00:52:47.640 Cut me.

00:52:48.640 Okay.

00:52:49.640 Last, uh, fun fact.

00:52:51.640 Amanda.

00:52:52.640 This stupid one.

00:52:53.640 She wrote, you are both retired fan fiction writers.

00:52:57.640 That's a fun fact about me too.

00:52:59.640 Not really.

00:53:00.640 I've talked about it before.

00:53:01.640 But.

00:53:02.640 It's actually funny you say that.

00:53:03.640 You've dabbled?

00:53:04.640 I, I just, this week, looked on my Wattpad account.

00:53:09.640 And I was like, and I was like, I was taking stuff down.

00:53:13.640 I'm like, I am not.

00:53:14.640 You said, God forbid they find this.

00:53:16.640 No, literally.

00:53:17.640 I'm like, please, please.

00:53:18.640 I was trying to start like a book series.

00:53:20.640 I'm like, please.

00:53:21.640 They can't.

00:53:22.640 And my real name is on it.

00:53:23.640 I'm like, please.

00:53:24.640 They cannot find.

00:53:25.640 I was like, they cannot find this.

00:53:26.640 And so I was taking everything down.

00:53:28.640 Damn.

00:53:29.640 But it's very funny.

00:53:30.640 Very.

00:53:31.640 It just happened.

00:53:32.640 It just happened.

00:53:33.640 So I'm like.

00:53:34.640 Okay.

00:53:35.640 What were you, what were you like?

00:53:36.640 What was your inspo?

00:53:37.640 What was my inspo?

00:53:38.640 Like, what were you writing fan fiction about?

00:53:39.640 Like anyone famous book characters?

00:53:41.640 I will never tell.

00:53:42.640 Oh no.

00:53:43.640 Really?

00:53:44.640 Oh no.

00:53:45.640 Oh my God.

00:53:46.640 Oh my gosh.

00:53:47.640 Okay.

00:53:48.640 Give me a general theme.

00:53:49.640 Was it like a celebrity or was it like TV show or something?

00:53:52.640 I feel like, I feel like, I was like, the problem is I've written multiple.

00:54:00.640 So.

00:54:01.640 Okay.

00:54:02.640 Pick the one you're least embarrassed about to tell me.

00:54:03.640 The least embarrassed about.

00:54:04.640 You don't have to tell me the subject, but you could tell me like a clue.

00:54:08.640 And it was, it was a TV show.

00:54:11.640 It was like, I watched, there's this, oh man, I'm really going to out myself.

00:54:15.640 Okay.

00:54:16.640 So there's like.

00:54:17.640 We love fan fiction writers here.

00:54:18.640 Really?

00:54:19.640 Oh, I've talked extensively about my fan fiction.

00:54:20.640 Really?

00:54:21.640 I'll tell you all about mine.

00:54:22.640 Yeah.

00:54:23.640 But you first.

00:54:24.640 You first.

00:54:25.640 So like, I just watched, like my, my friend recently had my friend.

00:54:29.640 No, I discovered it for myself.

00:54:31.640 I got into, when I was back at Spelman, there was this something that came up on my YouTube

00:54:37.640 and it was called, oh, something with a string, but it was like this BL series, you know, BL?

00:54:42.640 No.

00:54:43.640 BL is Boys Love.

00:54:44.640 Got you.

00:54:45.640 Got you.

00:54:46.640 Got you.

00:54:47.640 Got you.

00:54:48.640 It's like this, what's the call?

00:54:49.640 It's, it's how it sounds like two, two guys just loving each other.

00:54:52.640 Tea.

00:54:53.640 And so it was like, it was something with this until we meet again.

00:54:55.640 That's the name of it.

00:54:56.640 Okay.

00:54:57.640 So I remember like going, like, I love this show.

00:55:02.640 Like I, every, like, I forget when it will come on YouTube, but I would, I would order

00:55:07.640 some food and I would go down, like there was this computer room in my dorm and I would

00:55:11.640 go down.

00:55:12.640 I'll be like crunched down.

00:55:13.640 Like, oh my God, like I need to, I need to watch the show.

00:55:15.640 I need to watch the show.

00:55:16.640 Um, and so I built upon that somewhere in the, well, I really didn't have to say all

00:55:22.640 the details.

00:55:23.640 You did like a spinoff of that.

00:55:24.640 Yeah.

00:55:25.640 You did like a spinoff of it.

00:55:26.640 Tea.

00:55:27.640 And that's all.

00:55:28.640 No, you're so real for that.

00:55:29.640 Trust me.

00:55:30.640 Yeah.

00:55:31.640 Yeah.

00:55:32.640 It is a safe space here to talk about that.

00:55:33.640 Yeah.

00:55:34.640 Yeah.

00:55:35.640 I've talked about it many times.

00:55:36.640 I wrote fan fiction about the Jonas Brothers.

00:55:38.640 I was like, I was so down bad for them.

00:55:40.640 The Jonas Brothers.

00:55:41.640 Oh girl.

00:55:42.640 Balls deep in that white boy shit.

00:55:44.640 Really?

00:55:45.640 I for real was on my white boy shit at the time.

00:55:47.640 And you know, what's funny is like, I was a Nick girl and I always make this joke, but because

00:55:51.640 it's true.

00:55:52.640 I was like, I always, I don't know, maybe my like energy, my third, I just knew he was

00:55:55.640 going to be the only one to end up with a brown girl.

00:55:57.640 Oh my God.

00:55:58.640 Like just like a non white girl.

00:56:00.640 And I called it and I was right.

00:56:02.640 No way.

00:56:03.640 They hate a bitch when she's right.

00:56:05.640 No way.

00:56:06.640 That was like, I, if I really looked back because like any time there was like any popular

00:56:10.640 form of media, like I'm always team Brown.

00:56:12.640 Like I'm always team Brown.

00:56:13.640 So like whoever was not white, I was like, that's my fave.

00:56:16.640 I'm not.

00:56:17.640 Right.

00:56:18.640 Like that was like, well, like in the Twilight series, I was a Jacob girl.

00:56:20.640 I was like Jacob till I die.

00:56:22.640 Oh, I never read Twilight.

00:56:24.640 Really?

00:56:25.640 Well, I was banned from a lot of things.

00:56:27.640 Yeah.

00:56:28.640 I was like Twilight, Harry Potter, anything like kind of like fantasy and mystical, you

00:56:32.640 name it.

00:56:33.640 Witchy woo woo.

00:56:34.640 Yeah.

00:56:35.640 Witchy woo woo.

00:56:36.640 Like banned from like, oh, like parents, like family.

00:56:38.640 Yeah.

00:56:39.640 Oh, I see.

00:56:40.640 Yeah.

00:56:41.640 You should watch it.

00:56:42.640 You should, you should watch it now or read it now.

00:56:44.640 I feel like, I feel like I won't be, I feel like I missed my period of being like really

00:56:51.640 into it.

00:56:52.640 You know what I mean?

00:56:53.640 Like, that's what I meant.

00:56:54.640 I wish I was a fan back then because now I'm like, oh, like I'm getting the off brand,

00:56:58.640 but I wish I was like, like going to the movies and like waiting in line.

00:57:02.640 You know what I mean?

00:57:03.640 Like I want to be that type of fan.

00:57:04.640 Oh, hell yeah.

00:57:05.640 I missed my period.

00:57:06.640 No, that's T.

00:57:07.640 The window was closed.

00:57:08.640 The window has closed.

00:57:09.640 Have you watched the movies?

00:57:10.640 I haven't watched the movies.

00:57:12.640 Oh.

00:57:13.640 What have you watched?

00:57:15.640 I mean, I've seen, I've seen clips here and there, but I haven't watched any of them.

00:57:20.640 That's true.

00:57:21.640 What kind of TV shows do you like?

00:57:22.640 Hmm.

00:57:23.640 Or movies?

00:57:24.640 I've been watching, I've been watching Gravity Falls, which is-

00:57:29.640 I love that show.

00:57:31.640 I love that show.

00:57:33.640 It's so cute.

00:57:34.640 It's so fun.

00:57:35.640 I watched that.

00:57:36.640 There's this like Disney plus series called the Owl House that I was watching.

00:57:40.640 And then there was like, what else have I been watching?

00:57:43.640 You are all over the map.

00:57:44.640 I cannot, I cannot predict where you're going now.

00:57:48.640 I really am.

00:57:49.640 I was like, I, I've been meaning to watch some anime, but I haven't really.

00:57:54.640 No.

00:57:55.640 You know what?

00:57:56.640 That's honestly kind of tea because I recently have been thinking about delving into anime.

00:58:00.640 I know anime is like such an expansive universe.

00:58:03.640 Have you ever watched anime?

00:58:05.640 You have?

00:58:06.640 Yes.

00:58:07.640 Are you, are you a connoisseur?

00:58:09.640 Oh my God.

00:58:10.640 Oh my God.

00:58:11.640 Do I have some shows for you?

00:58:13.640 Oh wow.

00:58:14.640 I would love, I, I recently saw clips of this on TikTok and I was like, and this is just

00:58:19.640 tea for you, but like I'm writing another book and I'm doing, I'm doing a fiction.

00:58:22.640 Congratulations.

00:58:23.640 Thank you.

00:58:24.640 I'm doing a fiction series, like a romantic kind of series.

00:58:26.640 Ooh.

00:58:27.640 So like the thing with that is like my, my goal right now, like is to do a lot of research.

00:58:32.640 Yeah.

00:58:33.640 So I'm going to like read, read a ton of stuff.

00:58:34.640 Yeah.

00:58:35.640 And I like really want to watch anime because I know that there are quite a few love stories

00:58:40.640 in anime that are like epic and amazing.

00:58:42.640 Yeah.

00:58:43.640 Yeah.

00:58:44.640 Yeah.

00:58:45.640 So I've heard, so I'm like, I want to watch anime.

00:58:46.640 I want to watch maybe even like Bollywood films.

00:58:48.640 Like I've been like looking into lots of different genres of romance, romance, because I feel

00:58:53.640 like it would be so wonderful.

00:58:54.640 So I saw one called, I think it's called my marriage story.

00:58:59.640 Oh, is that what it's called?

00:59:00.640 Something like that.

00:59:01.640 It's like the guy has the long hair.

00:59:04.640 I feel like I know what you're talking about.

00:59:08.640 I need to like literally look it up while we're talking about it though.

00:59:11.640 So I can, but if you have recs for me, I would love them.

00:59:14.640 Oh wait, a lot of the, the, the, the bad part is a lot of them are pervy.

00:59:18.640 There are some that are like, so I've heard and I'm okay with that.

00:59:21.640 And I'm okay with that.

00:59:23.640 Cause I'm a grown up.

00:59:25.640 So my glasses are on while I'm watching.

00:59:28.640 This is research.

00:59:29.640 You did research.

00:59:31.640 I was like, I love, I was like, there, there's some that I'm like, this is like weird.

00:59:38.640 Cause like, why did like they're in high school?

00:59:40.640 Yeah.

00:59:41.640 Like why is she a teen?

00:59:42.640 And why are her boobs so big?

00:59:44.640 What's going on there?

00:59:45.640 What's going on?

00:59:46.640 Yeah.

00:59:47.640 There's some that are like just, just so sweet and so nice.

00:59:50.640 Right.

00:59:51.640 And so I even like recently I told my friend to watch how's moving castle.

00:59:55.640 Oh yeah.

00:59:56.640 Because she had never seen it before.

00:59:57.640 And in, in, in studio Ghibli, I've only seen Kiki's delivery service and how's moving castle.

01:00:02.640 I need to, I need to catch up.

01:00:03.640 But I told her, I was like, dude, re watch how's moving castle.

01:00:06.640 It's so good.

01:00:07.640 And so, and she loved it.

01:00:08.640 It was like, yeah, she loved it.

01:00:10.640 Um, but that's why I've been kind of tiptoeing towards anime because I was like, I need to get in there.

01:00:15.640 I need to get in there and do some more research.

01:00:18.640 So I will definitely take your recommendations.

01:00:20.640 I got you.

01:00:21.640 Pervy, not pervy.

01:00:22.640 I'll take them all.

01:00:23.640 I got you.

01:00:24.640 I got you.

01:00:25.640 I'm like racking through my brain.

01:00:26.640 I got you.

01:00:27.640 Let me think.

01:00:28.640 Let me think.

01:00:29.640 What's your favorite anime?

01:00:30.640 Oh man.

01:00:31.640 Wait.

01:00:32.640 If you had to choose.

01:00:33.640 Oh man.

01:00:34.640 That's hard.

01:00:35.640 Oh man.

01:00:36.640 Okay.

01:00:37.640 Wait.

01:00:38.640 Okay.

01:00:39.640 I'll give you three.

01:00:40.640 Top three.

01:00:41.640 Top three.

01:00:42.640 Top three right now.

01:00:43.640 Yes.

01:00:44.640 Apothecary Diaries, which is about, um, I'm so bad at like synopsis.

01:00:51.640 I don't know the word.

01:00:53.640 I'm so bad.

01:00:54.640 But basically this, this girl is, she's like, she gets kidnapped and she has to like serve

01:00:59.640 like the emperor and stuff like that.

01:01:01.640 But she also solves murders and things along the mysteries along those lines.

01:01:06.640 Interesting.

01:01:07.640 And she's really into poisons.

01:01:08.640 And she's, she's a very interesting character.

01:01:10.640 Love her.

01:01:11.640 Love.

01:01:12.640 Um, the Apothecary Diaries.

01:01:13.640 Spy X family.

01:01:14.640 Um, okay.

01:01:17.640 There's an assassin.

01:01:18.640 There's a, like a detective like person.

01:01:22.640 And then there's a child who reads minds and they come together.

01:01:26.640 They make a family because they have to, to do, they have to solve world peace.

01:01:31.640 Like they have to make world peace.

01:01:33.640 Cool.

01:01:34.640 Something along those lines.

01:01:35.640 Okay.

01:01:36.640 I'm really not selling this.

01:01:37.640 Right.

01:01:38.640 But it's really, my understanding of anime, any, anything is possible.

01:01:42.640 Like the sky is truly the limit in anime.

01:01:45.640 And I love that.

01:01:46.640 I was like, so I feel like there's that.

01:01:48.640 And then the third one.

01:01:50.640 Oh, why is the third one so hard?

01:01:52.640 Oh my.

01:01:53.640 Okay.

01:01:54.640 Okay.

01:01:55.640 Uh, uh, my favorite.

01:01:56.640 I was, I feel like my favorite that I always say is Violet Evergarden, which is about

01:02:00.640 this, this girl who was a, who was a soldier and now isn't a soldier and like has to like

01:02:07.640 do something with her life.

01:02:09.640 And so she ends up being what's called like a doll, which is like these like people who

01:02:13.640 write letters for other people.

01:02:15.640 And it's just going through like her adventures slash like her journey of being a doll.

01:02:20.640 And I made me cry the first time.

01:02:23.640 Oh, I love that.

01:02:25.640 That's honestly tea.

01:02:26.640 Really?

01:02:27.640 Yeah.

01:02:28.640 I love that.

01:02:29.640 I love, I love your Rex.

01:02:30.640 Thank you.

01:02:31.640 I'll definitely take them.

01:02:32.640 I'm so excited to venture on my journey.

01:02:34.640 I was like talking to one of my other friends on the show and we were talking about housewives

01:02:38.640 and she was like, have you ever watched?

01:02:39.640 And I was like, no, I've never watched like any housewives or anything like that.

01:02:42.640 And she was like, Oh my God, you're the luckiest girl in the world.

01:02:45.640 Oh, we can experience it for the first time.

01:02:48.640 And we laughed about it.

01:02:49.640 So like, that's how that's, I feel like the luckiest girl in the world.

01:02:52.640 I've never really watched any anime.

01:02:54.640 My, my fiance actually really loves anime too.

01:02:56.640 Really?

01:02:57.640 He watches a lot of the heavy hitters though.

01:02:58.640 Like he watches like attack on Titan and stuff like that.

01:03:00.640 So like the, the real popular ones, like he's, he's into those ones too.

01:03:04.640 Um, but he's watched other ones too that I can't remember the names of right now.

01:03:08.640 Um, my brother loves anime also.

01:03:10.640 And so my brother's always like, he'll text my man and he'll be like, can I have the login

01:03:14.640 to the crunchy roll account?

01:03:15.640 And like, and they're the only two who use it.

01:03:18.640 Like just the two of them.

01:03:19.640 And then he's like, can I have the login?

01:03:21.640 And every time he's at my house, that's what he's watching on my TV.

01:03:24.640 So I get it.

01:03:26.640 And I know my brother's going to geek when I tell him to like, I have, I've yet to tell

01:03:30.640 him that I'm going to start delving in my dive in hands first.

01:03:35.640 I even asked him, I was like, does avatar count?

01:03:37.640 Like avatar, the last airborne is an anime.

01:03:39.640 And then he was like, no, it doesn't.

01:03:42.640 That's American made.

01:03:43.640 It has to be made in Japan.

01:03:44.640 And I was like, okay, my bad master, my bad professor of anime.

01:03:49.640 My bad, but I did love avatar very much.

01:03:53.640 So like, I haven't watched avatar.

01:03:56.640 It's so good.

01:03:57.640 I heard that is like literally one of my favorite shows of all time.

01:04:00.640 Really?

01:04:01.640 I hear that a lot.

01:04:02.640 Genuinely.

01:04:03.640 It's such a good show.

01:04:04.640 Top to bottom.

01:04:05.640 No notes, except one.

01:04:06.640 Um, he should not have ended up with her.

01:04:08.640 Oh, that's it.

01:04:09.640 Oh, you know what I'm talking about?

01:04:11.640 I'm not going to spoil it for him, but you know what I'm talking about?

01:04:14.640 Well, I love that.

01:04:15.640 Now I got anime recommendations.

01:04:17.640 I got your WAP pad info.

01:04:20.640 All of that.

01:04:21.640 Honestly, when I wrote fanfic girl, I like, I wrote that shit.

01:04:26.640 Like Han wrote it like a pilgrim.

01:04:28.640 And then I, and I ended up meeting the Jonas brothers too.

01:04:31.640 And I, and the only reason I even got to meet them was because I wrote fan fiction and I've talked about it.

01:04:37.640 Yeah.

01:04:38.640 And I've talked about how much I love them and made videos like talking about how much I love them.

01:04:42.640 Well, I made a YouTube video once with my sister when we were younger and I like used it.

01:04:46.640 Oh, that's so cute.

01:04:47.640 Yeah.

01:04:48.640 So it's like, I was like a big fan girl of them for years.

01:04:50.640 Oh, did you tell them that like you did?

01:04:52.640 No.

01:04:53.640 Fuck no.

01:04:54.640 Oh.

01:04:55.640 No way.

01:04:56.640 I was cool, calm and collected.

01:04:58.640 Just kidding.

01:04:59.640 They were really nice.

01:05:00.640 If I had the time, I honestly probably would have told them.

01:05:02.640 It would have come out eventually.

01:05:03.640 Oh yeah.

01:05:04.640 I have no shame.

01:05:05.640 No shame in my game.

01:05:06.640 Absolutely not.

01:05:07.640 I've seen, whenever I talk about it and I like go into even more detail because like the funniest thing about my fanfic is that it's not a first person one.

01:05:14.640 Yeah.

01:05:15.640 I'm writing it as, as Miley Cyrus, essentially.

01:05:18.640 Oh, really?

01:05:19.640 Like, and her lore and their world.

01:05:21.640 Did you just not see yourself with one of the Jonas brothers?

01:05:24.640 No, I honestly, I honestly don't know why I wrote it that way.

01:05:28.640 I don't know if maybe I thought it would be like better if people thought it was someone real or maybe it's because I was destined to write fiction eventually because I was like, well, I'm not gonna write it in first person.

01:05:36.640 Like I'm gonna write in first person, but I have to have a character and the character has to be somebody.

01:05:40.640 Yeah.

01:05:41.640 I think it was like, I was taking a very literal interpretation of it.

01:05:44.640 Like I was writing a book.

01:05:45.640 Yeah.

01:05:46.640 But it's like, what like better person than Miley Cyrus or Miley Cyrus adjacent.

01:05:50.640 And I don't think I've ever said this before, but I did start a sequel to my fan fiction, like never having posted it to anyone.

01:05:56.640 I started a sequel.

01:05:57.640 I think I wrote like a quarter of it.

01:05:59.640 That one was a spinoff and that one was about Demi Lovato and Joe Jonas.

01:06:03.640 Whoa.

01:06:04.640 And their eventual love story.

01:06:06.640 Whoa.

01:06:07.640 I started that one and just never finished it because then I was like, I guess 14.

01:06:11.640 So I was like, well, I guess I have to go to school and stuff.

01:06:14.640 Like I'm like, this is taking up all my time.

01:06:16.640 I have to go back to school.

01:06:17.640 I have a job.

01:06:18.640 I have to clock in.

01:06:20.640 So I get it.

01:06:21.640 We're kindred spirits.

01:06:22.640 We're kindred spirits, you and I.

01:06:23.640 No, literally.

01:06:24.640 We're a lot alike.

01:06:25.640 We're not so different, you and me.

01:06:27.640 You and me.

01:06:29.640 Literally.

01:06:30.640 Oh, man.

01:06:31.640 Will it come out eventually though?

01:06:33.640 And everyone always asked me that.

01:06:34.640 Really?

01:06:35.640 And if I could find it, I really would.

01:06:37.640 I'm not even kidding.

01:06:38.640 I'm not ashamed at all.

01:06:39.640 I would love to go live and read it.

01:06:42.640 Like I would literally do that if I could find it.

01:06:44.640 I can't and because I hand wrote it because I'm a hundred years old.

01:06:47.640 I'm dead.

01:06:48.640 I like don't know where it is.

01:06:50.640 It might be in my mom and dad's house.

01:06:52.640 Like, but I've looked before and I haven't been able to find it.

01:06:54.640 And I genuinely think if I can't find it, I think I was so violently ashamed of it at one point that I threw it away.

01:07:00.640 Oh.

01:07:01.640 And by that, I mean, I was probably just like, God, gold in my hands.

01:07:04.640 Didn't even.

01:07:05.640 Didn't even utilize it when the time was right.

01:07:08.640 It happened.

01:07:09.640 Lost art.

01:07:11.640 It happens.

01:07:12.640 Yeah.

01:07:13.640 So I get that you going in your Wattpad and be like, delete, delete, delete.

01:07:16.640 Yeah.

01:07:17.640 But it's saved on Google somewhere.

01:07:19.640 So maybe I'm hoping I'm like one day.

01:07:22.640 Do you still dabble in reading Wattpad?

01:07:25.640 Man, I do.

01:07:27.640 I do.

01:07:28.640 Actually, yesterday I was reading like a, like a, I don't think it was a fan fiction novel, but I'm watching this series and it's inspired by a novel.

01:07:38.640 And so I read the novel yesterday.

01:07:39.640 Oh, nice.

01:07:40.640 Yeah.

01:07:41.640 I miss those days.

01:07:42.640 I miss those days.

01:07:43.640 Right.

01:07:44.640 Where you were like, couldn't wait to get in there.

01:07:46.640 Exactly.

01:07:47.640 Or like when you would like see a new chapter and you're like, yes.

01:07:50.640 Yes.

01:07:51.640 Yes.

01:07:52.640 My show's locked.

01:07:53.640 Literally.

01:07:54.640 Don't bother me.

01:07:55.640 Shows locked the door.

01:07:56.640 Don't bother me.

01:07:57.640 Yeah.

01:07:58.640 For real.

01:07:59.640 I have plans.

01:08:00.640 Yeah.

01:08:01.640 No, literally.

01:08:02.640 I get it.

01:08:03.640 It was on Wattpad.

01:08:04.640 Like, and I, it was a fan fiction and I can't say what it's about because it's not a good thing.

01:08:08.640 But I'll tell, I'll tell you, but like, we have to cut this part out.

01:08:11.640 But it was about .

01:08:13.640 I just, it just, someone DM'd it to me because I had said I was reading a book that was somewhat in that world.

01:08:18.640 Yeah.

01:08:19.640 But it wasn't, it wasn't .

01:08:20.640 Yeah.

01:08:21.640 So like, they were like, oh, you should read this.

01:08:22.640 And I said, I literally read it, moved me to tears.

01:08:25.640 No way.

01:08:27.640 They are in their bag on Wattpad.

01:08:30.640 No way.

01:08:31.640 Like for real, they know how to write shit on there.

01:08:32.640 That's so true.

01:08:33.640 You get it though.

01:08:34.640 I was like, Wattpad has been, has inspired probably a lot of songs.

01:08:40.640 That's why I was like, I start to fear.

01:08:43.640 I'm like, I feel like maybe this has more of a pull on me than I realized.

01:08:47.640 Oh yeah.

01:08:48.640 No, it definitely does.

01:08:49.640 It's definitely like my personality.

01:08:50.640 It's definitely like.

01:08:51.640 It's touching everything I make.

01:08:53.640 Exactly.

01:08:54.640 I love it though.

01:08:55.640 I love it.

01:08:56.640 Me too.

01:08:57.640 And I think it's amazing.

01:08:58.640 I literally, I could, I literally moved me to tears.

01:09:00.640 I read it.

01:09:01.640 I was like, this is a beautiful story.

01:09:03.640 Have to have a good mix.

01:09:05.640 It was so good.

01:09:06.640 And it was so dramatic.

01:09:07.640 And it was like, there was so many stakes and all that shit.

01:09:10.640 It was good.

01:09:11.640 Modern literature, honestly.

01:09:12.640 I'm telling you.

01:09:13.640 Get in, get the bitches are in their bag on Wattpad.

01:09:16.640 You have to get on Wattpad if you're not.

01:09:18.640 It's so good.

01:09:19.640 Yes.

01:09:20.640 But thank you so much for coming on the show.

01:09:22.640 Oh man, thank you for having me.

01:09:23.640 I think you're incredible.

01:09:24.640 Before we go, I would love if you could give everyone just like your best piece of advice

01:09:29.640 for, if they're, if they're an aspiring artist, if maybe they're like looking to become one,

01:09:34.640 like what's your best piece of advice for them?

01:09:36.640 Up and coming artists.

01:09:37.640 Up and coming.

01:09:38.640 Honestly, I feel that I'm like, if you haven't already, like learn how to produce.

01:09:43.640 Like it's really, it's a good, like kind of skill to have on the back of, in the back of your belt,

01:09:50.640 just to like be able to do like a song or something on your own.

01:09:54.640 Like, I feel like that's a really good thing to do.

01:09:56.640 That's tea.

01:09:57.640 A lot of the, a lot of artists, Kaylani told me that when she came on the show.

01:10:01.640 Yeah.

01:10:02.640 She was like, you should learn how to do your own thing.

01:10:04.640 Yeah.

01:10:05.640 Especially when you're in larger groups when you're working.

01:10:08.640 So you can like, if you don't like it, you know how to do it on your own.

01:10:11.640 Yeah.

01:10:12.640 Like if you don't like how they're doing it.

01:10:13.640 Yeah.

01:10:14.640 You can call it.

01:10:15.640 You can do it.

01:10:16.640 Tea.

01:10:17.640 Women in STEM.

01:10:18.640 Women in STEM.

01:10:19.640 Yes.

01:10:20.640 Well, thank you so much for coming on the show.

01:10:21.640 I fucking love you.

01:10:22.640 I love you too.

01:10:23.640 Thank you for having me.

01:10:24.640 You're amazing.

01:10:25.640 And you're so talented.

01:10:26.640 And I can't wait to keep watching your star rise.

01:10:28.640 Like, and then I'll be literally just like Chapel.

01:10:30.640 I'll be like, and she was on the comment section.

01:10:32.640 I'm dead.

01:10:33.640 Yes.

01:10:34.640 Of course.

01:10:35.640 I'm claiming it here.

01:10:37.640 Ticket to fame here.

01:10:38.640 But I'm so, I am so happy to know you and I'm so happy to see you.

01:10:42.640 And I've seen you live, which is incredible.

01:10:44.640 Yeah.

01:10:45.640 Oh.

01:10:46.640 So congratulations on everything.

01:10:47.640 I can't wait to keep watching you.

01:10:48.640 Thank you so much.

01:10:49.640 You're amazing.

01:10:50.640 Thank you all so much for tuning into this episode of the comment section.

01:10:52.640 Thank you to my amazing guest, Hemlock Springs.

01:10:54.640 For those of you that don't know, where can everybody find you?

01:10:57.640 Oh, gosh.

01:10:58.640 Um, I should know the answer to this.

01:11:00.640 Everywhere.

01:11:01.640 Um, DSP's like Spotify and like, I'm so, why am I bad at it?

01:11:08.640 What's your handle?

01:11:09.640 Um, it should just be Hemlock.

01:11:11.640 Like Hemlock.

01:11:12.640 H E M L O C K E.

01:11:14.640 H O C K E.

01:11:15.640 Yes.

01:11:16.640 And then Springs.

01:11:17.640 S P R I N G S.

01:11:19.640 I should be better at answering that question.

01:11:21.640 Well, you know what?

01:11:22.640 It's okay.

01:11:23.640 It's all right.

01:11:24.640 Because they're going to have to, after they watch this episode, they're going to have

01:11:27.640 to go find you.

01:11:28.640 They're going to find you on their own.

01:11:29.640 They don't need your help.

01:11:30.640 They can do it.

01:11:31.640 Do you have anything else you want to promote?

01:11:35.640 Um, oh, my, oh, my, uh, debut album, the apple tree under the sea comes out February 13th.

01:11:42.640 I am so happy for it and so excited for it to be released.

01:11:46.640 So stay tuned.

01:11:47.640 Oh my gosh.

01:11:48.640 How exciting.

01:11:49.640 Congratulations.

01:11:50.640 Everyone, please go check out Hemlock.

01:11:52.640 She is fucking incredible.

01:11:54.640 Like genuinely an artist to her core.

01:11:56.640 Can't wait to see her keep being famous.

01:11:57.640 I can't wait to hear all of you go.

01:11:58.640 Wait, wasn't Hemlock Springs on the comment section?

01:12:00.640 Yeah, exactly.

01:12:02.640 Exactly.

01:12:03.640 Thank you so much to my amazing guest Hemlock for joining us.

01:12:06.640 Thank you so much for watching the comment section.

01:12:07.640 Don't forget new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday.

01:12:10.640 You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, but the video lives for free and

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01:12:16.640 Thank you so much to my amazing guest Hemlock Springs.

01:12:18.640 Thank you so much for tuning in and I'll see you next week.

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The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - December 24, 2025

HATERS AND DIEHARDS Ft. hemlocke springs ｜ Episode 201

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