I'D LOVE TO SHAVE MY HEAD Ft. Gigi Gorgeous ｜ Drew Afualo ｜ THE COMMENT SECTION EP 71
Summary
On this episode of Comment Section, Drew and Drew are joined by the legendary Gigi Gorgeous Woo! Gigi is a comedian, writer, and podcaster. She is also a fashion stylist, and she has an incredible sense of humor.
Transcript
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My boyfriend actually changed my view of fitness and my relation to it and stuff like that.
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Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show starring me, your favorite.
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Today, we have the iconic, the legendary, Gigi Gorgeous.
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I think subconsciously I picked out this dress.
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Because, yeah, I was like, maybe this will look good.
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I've had someone tweet me, I love a bad bitch who's down bad for a man.
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I think I like them, but I think that they're like dumb.
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She has all authority and she gave me the authority.
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Just like when I make fun of like men who are balding when they're like awful.
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He gave me permission on behalf of all bald people.
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We were actually talking about this just now before we started recording.
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I shaved my husband's head last night and it was so freeing for me.
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And I was even doing like the tape up with like the razor at the back.
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I feel like if you're an artist, you can just do it all.
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Being the best, but knowing that other people aren't as good.
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I mean, I could do my own hair and makeup, but I'm not like a full beat bitch.
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I literally, you know, what's funny is when I got this show and we were talking about like
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the format and everything and we did like a test shoot, my mom actually was like,
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are you going to hire someone to do hair and makeup?
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And then I was like, I mean, I'm pretty good at doing my own hair and makeup, which is
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true, but I'm not good at doing hair and makeup for high quality cameras.
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And so that was proven to me, unfortunately for me when I did like the test shoot, we did
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like a rehearsal and they filmed me on these cameras and then I watched the footage and
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I feel like all the lights and, you know, the filters and everyone like back here.
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And I feel like, you know, this now because you've been in the industry too for a long
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They take pictures of you from all angles, all sides.
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Like I feel so acutely aware of my looks at all times now.
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I think because I just see myself so much more often than I would typically would if I didn't
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Um, I think it makes me really confident in certain things and it also makes me insecure
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Because like there are certain things I feel like I talk about a lot how I think I was
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kind of lucky I had body neutrality for a while longer than you typically do when
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Once I started doing this, I became like very acutely aware of it because people are
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always commenting on it, whether it's good or bad.
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It still puts thoughts in my head, which I never really struggled with before.
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Like I would have moments here and there where I felt insecure, but it was never like a huge
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determining thing for my mood or anything like that.
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But I feel like this industry changed that a little bit.
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Cause I growing up, I was always aware of my body being trans.
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Cause that's such a young, like realizing I was trans at such a young age, it was all
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It was all about, um, you know, how I felt in my body, how I looked in the mirror.
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And it literally isn't until recently where I've been like, it, I kind of like want to
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like work out and be cute and be strong and like, you know, like who cares about what I
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Cause everyone's worried about them, their goddamn own life.
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Literally like people aren't paying attention nearly as much as you think sometimes when you're
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I think the gym too, like my relationship with fitness and everything helped that a
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lot because like my boyfriend actually changed my view of fitness and my relation to it and
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Cause I'm like, so I'm like, no, sexually, no, I'm such a like CrossFit diva.
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It's like, no, like heavy lifting, just all body weight stuff.
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And then I just do it in the morning and then I'm done and then can glam and do the rest
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I did CrossFit years ago, I think when I was still in high school, but you like lift
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But at the time I was playing sports like all the time.
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So that was like the hit classes were a nice little change.
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It's like, Hey, it's like high intensity interval training, which is high intensity
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It's like, it's a high intensity interval training.
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So you like do something a million times for however many, however long.
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I was like, what's crazy about this class is like you can go at four in the morning and
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everybody, everybody in that gym ready to go, bitch.
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Like they've had, they're fully awake, fired up.
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I wake up and I look at my phone and then I doze off for a little and then I wake up
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I think too with CrossFit, like I just can't believe that they're willing to run a mile
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And then me getting lapped by men in their 60s.
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It was so, I mean, looking back, I'm like, who was she?
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I'm a firm believer that I like, I swim for leisure and leisure only.
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So any kind of water sport, I did not do well at, like at all.
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She's like, no, we're going to go try water polo.
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Like I can barely even hover in the water, let alone like one handed with a ball.
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Like before you do the trial, like that's like a qualifying thing.
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I did one sort of coming back and I kept walking like, cause I was tall enough to reach the bottom
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and I was just doing the motion and they were like, don't walk, don't walk.
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And then they were like, Hey, come back next year.
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And then I got sick cause I drank too much pool water.
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So, and so they gave me a free t-shirt and I went home.
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They were like, they're like this dingbat drinks pool water.
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I mean, flipping off of like a cement brick in the air, 10 meters up.
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And that actually leads us into our topic today.
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We're going to talk about living as your most authentic self because Miss Gigi has been
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And like you've shared your journey with everyone.
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Like how do you see how like social media has changed over the last like 10 years or
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I'm not sure how long you've been on social media.
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I mean, for me, it's all about like the inclusivity of like the community.
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So I like when I started, there were really no like trans stories online.
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Online and I was, I was really living throughout my friends in real life.
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Like I only had like one or two trans girlfriends and they were, I grew up in Toronto and they
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So I would only really see them when I went there.
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So yeah, online, it was just really like, there was like no diversity or, and I just never
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So yeah, it was, it was, it's changed in like vastly.
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There's so many trans people and so many trans stories online now.
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And like everyone is living so authentically and I love that.
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Um, but I think that there's just also so much, uh, more backlash because of it.
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Because you guys are more visible now than you ever have.
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I think there's, um, also to, well, first off, how, like what made you want to start sharing
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Because obviously it's really daunting and scary, especially online because people are
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Uh, spoiler alert, people are really mean on the internet for no reason, um, especially to
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So like, what made you want to start sharing your story in the first place?
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Like publicly with like your transition and everything, like going through life, anything
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So I started with like beauty and fashion strictly.
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And then, um, I started opening up and then I got addicted and it was like a really positive,
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I was like, oh my God, like everyone wants to see me win.
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And then, you know, obviously shit hits the fan when you, when you blow up, but it, I
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just think it's all about like staying positive, you know, because like sharing your story is
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really, really, really hard, but it's about staying positive and also knowing, um, like
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Like I never really share anything in my life until I'm like super ready to, and you know,
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I've already like, I've already thought about everything that anybody can say.
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I've already thought about any, anything that anybody can do.
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Um, and then once it's out there, it's kind of, you know, out there and I'm like, I've
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I feel like I, any, any other influencer I've ever like talked to that's been in the
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game for a long time, like Jackie Aina, for example, like obsessed.
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She, she also shared something similar to me when I like, cause I always ask, um, creators
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like yourself who have been in the industry for a long time and also have dealt with like
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Like what helps you like take care of you and they all, all of you guys kind of tell
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But even Jackie was like, she told me like parceling out what you want to share and what
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you don't like distinguishing is very important cause it helps you keep distance between you
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Cause it's such a scary thing to share every single part of your life.
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So like knowing when to gatekeep and when not to, it's like a big part.
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And I really, I find the, the way that she like molds her life so inspiring because I've
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heard her talk about the same thing on her YouTube channel and she's just like, you know
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I'm going to give you like just little bits and pieces of what I want.
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And that's why I'm so happy that I never did like true reality TV.
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Like there are so many instances, like I could have fully done it and I'm so happy I didn't
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because like my privacy is everything and like, you know, it would all be out there.
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And I feel like when you have opportunities to share, like maybe just a little bit more
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when you put it in the hands of somebody else, there's like a risk that it may not be told
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Which is the case with reality TV, I think all the time.
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Which is why you see people who are like in real life, they're really nice, but they were
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And usually, honestly, from what my experience, at least in the industry and living here in
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LA, a lot of the villains on reality TV are like the most fun.
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You know, I can name like four right now in my head, but I won't.
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Well, that's why I think, uh, opportunities like this, like your amazing book that you're
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So when you come out with something like this, it's incredible.
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Cause you get to control, um, the story and you get to share more vulnerable parts.
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I feel like of your life without having to like put it in somebody else's hands.
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I felt like, you know, him and I are such, um, mind if I look at it.
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Um, we just like, we work so well together and I just thought that, you know, both of
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us, like him being a trans man and me being a trans woman, we just, we had, we had grown.
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It's probably had been like, I don't know, four or five years that we'd been friends.
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And we just thought one day we were like, we should really combine all of our resources,
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like all of our major connections and like everything we've learned and put it down on
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And like, because we get questions every day about like our, our transitions and stuff.
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And then we got a bunch of our friends to write it in it as well.
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When I tell you like in the intro to this, they have all of their wonderful, amazing friends.
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The most famous people you've ever seen, bitch.
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So we never, I had never seen a book like this.
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I'd never seen, um, you know, when I started transitioning, I was like, well, what if I
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What if I want to find a doctor for my breasts?
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You know, because I was working with nothing before.
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What if I want to, you know, talk to a therapist?
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It's literally like, we are your best friends and we are here for you.
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I'm, and what a wonderful idea too, especially now, like in the world now, which can be so
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scary and daunting, especially for trans people to have people like you and Gottmik, like publicly,
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Like representation is one of the few things that makes me emotional.
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Don't tell the terrible men, but I love seeing people like you thrive because in spite of
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everything terrible that happens and horrible things people say, um, you guys are still
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living exactly as you are and who you want to be.
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So I'm really happy that you came out with something like this.
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So speaking of living authenticity, we're going to talk about some TikToks today.
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So for those of you who are new, what we like to do on this channel is we bring videos that
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I was tagged in that are applicable to our topic for today.
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And then we kiki, giggle, laugh, make fun of it, whatever is necessary.
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So this first one is a woman and she is making a sarcastic, exciting announcement that we don't
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need gender reveal parties anymore because the American Medical Association is suggesting
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that birth certificates no longer say boy or girl.
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She says now we won't have baby showers because people won't know what gifts to buy the baby
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I think the shocking part about conservative ideology like this to me is I don't know what
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But it's not once did we ever say that anything was going to be excluded.
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We're just expanding it just a little bit more.
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Nobody's saying you can't identify as a boy or a girl.
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One of them caused that fire that ravaged California.
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They had the extreme gender reveal party up in the mountains.
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And it exploded and lit a fire and that launched all the like some of the major fires up north.
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Like Northern California, but it came all the way down to LA.
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But that's why it's like, that's one of those things where it's like, hey, not worth it.
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Well, I think when you're having a baby, like me and my husband are like on our embryo journey
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But I think once you have a baby, you're just, uh, any reason to celebrate the baby
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And I think, um, somebody like, um, Emrata, who's raising her baby, uh, I think she said
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it's like full on, like literally like going to wait for it to choose whatever, um, the
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I just can't imagine being so unemployed that I worry about what other people do in their
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But I just don't, you know what I think is cute and what I think is a serve when they
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Like everything's like tans or greens or yellow.
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Like they make it like a mauve-y tone or like orange or something super cute.
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The f*** was that girl saying, I don't, uh, I don't know what to get the baby if I don't
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If you don't know the gender, what are you supposed to get?
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Um, that baby's not going to know what anything is ever until it's like five.
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You'll buy it the most expensive toy and that baby will play with a paper plate.
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I'll buy them all the toys in the universe and they'll play with an Amazon box.
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And he'll chew on like one silly little thing that he got, like that I got him like as
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a puppy, like someone hand-me-down gave me stuff when I didn't know I was going to get
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I used to be a dog girl, but, um, ever since I met my husband, like, I don't even know how
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Oh, they're just cats are like, I get why the Egyptians worship them because they are
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just, I look at them and I'm like, Oh my God, like you're perfect.
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Like the Zen-ness and just like the majestic quality of them walking.
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And like, they don't like to be cuddled too often.
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Like anybody that's a cat person knows like orange cats, orange boy cats.
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Like he was so, he honestly, like, I'm just like the landlord and he's the tenant, but
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Every animal I've ever had, I've been a bridesmaid, not a bride.
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Like every animal we've had, they've, they've attached to a different person in my family.
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And I'm like always a Jedi, a Jedi, never a Padawan.
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I was like so upsetting to me that I'm never the main character in any of my animals lives.
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So I let him go out and then he just never really came.
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Like he, he just like wanted to wander my neighborhood and like impregnate other neighborhood cats
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And then he just would eat breakfast and dinner at my house and never wants to come inside.
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He was like, if I was a cat, I'd do the same goddamn thing.
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He came up and he was like, anyways, like this is not my life.
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And like the morning I, um, that he, uh, passed on, he came, ate breakfast, but he brought
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me like a rat and I stepped on it barefoot on accident.
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But I was so pissed at him because I felt like, you know how much I hate dead mice.
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My cats now will bring me like my underwear, like we'll drag the underwear and meow with
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it in between their legs and like bring it to me and look at me.
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Like I let them know, like, I know this is a gift.
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I guess you could say I have kissed him on the lips.
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He's getting better at it now, but like he does have to be monitored because left alone
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Like a lot of men when they see that I've stitched their video, that's them eating their own shit.
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This says, this is like, oh, this is the creator of the video.
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They said the clump of cells party is in the planning process.
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I think that she's trying to make like an abortion joke, I think.
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Yeah, because, because when, you know, when pro-choice people say like that you should
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have the ability to choose, they're like, oh, it's just a clump of cells.
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So I think she's like making, you know, they're like liberals.
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Party is in the planning process because they're taking away boy girl, allegedly.
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Well, just like, you could still have the party.
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You don't need an excuse to bring people together and drink.
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I also, so I, I don't agree with gender parties or gender reveal parties, but I also
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at the same time kind of like, I don't really mind them.
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Yeah, you have that and then you have baby shower.
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This next comment says, people are completely nuts, educated dumbasses.
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Like talking about people who want to get rid of boy girl.
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When they're old enough to decide they're going to be so confused on who they are, this is
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I like how they just say things and it's not true.
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Like I could also just say things that doesn't make it true.
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Did you ever have any gender questioning in your upbringing when you were growing up?
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Because I hated men so viscerally, I did at one point think maybe I like women.
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I did try because, and the only reason why was because I, I literally find men disgusting
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So I was, and I never had crushes really growing up like on men or women.
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And so it wasn't until I got older that I found out about like being, you know, different
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kinds of sexuality, like sexuality is like, you know, so.
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So then when I got older, I was like, oh, that's so interesting.
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Like I'd never, if I had thought about that, maybe I would have explored, but then I found
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So only the 1% of men, the one man, the one 7 billion literally.
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I was like, I know a lot of guys just, it's, it sucks.
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It's, it's, it's like one thing will be like, oh, you suck.
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That's what I asked myself when I was like 18, 17.
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Well, yeah, I think, I think, you know, um, the person saying that they're going to be,
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the kid is going to be raised and grow up to be so confused or whatever they said.
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I think that's bullshit because I was told that I was a boy growing up and I conformed
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I, like, I could come out as my authentic self and like my soul could be seen.
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So, you know, I think that that's just bullshit.
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And they think they know better, first of all, and they don't even know you or anyone else
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But they also don't apply it the same way, like what you're talking about, which is
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like enforcing heteronormativity on everyone, which is like the default setting.
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They, every time they raise children, regardless of, of how they may personally identify, they
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So they're automatically enforcing the gender binary.
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They're automatically enforcing heteronormativity, but God forbid you don't do that at all.
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I was like, no, it's actually much more freeing.
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It's actually like far more understanding and inclusive.
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And also it doesn't really cost you anything to like, let them decide for themselves what
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So this is a man and this man is simply saying gender pronouns are ridiculous and that everyone
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would be happier if we all just called ourselves men and women.
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I mean, if you were to like take non-binary people out for the sake of this discussion,
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um, trans people are saying that they are identifying as a man or a woman.
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But writing this book, we have so many people in here that have written essays and I have,
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I've never felt closer to like the non-binary, non-conforming community.
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And I think it's something that people need to open their minds to.
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I think it's something that, you know, we need to, we need to value.
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Um, and it takes courage to come out as something, you know, different.
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Like, it's like, it, it's something to be applauded.
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And I think to discredit that is just, it's so ridiculous and it's just not, not fair.
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Like, like that's the business of an unemployed person who gets totally who like faffs and
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worries and stresses about what non-binary people are doing.
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Do you know what you, do you know what you could achieve in your life if you put that
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energy towards like a job or making money or literally your eyelashes done?
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I also think too, when they talk about pronouns, like, oh, that's so ridiculous or whatever.
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Um, and they just, or they refuse to address people by the pronouns that they have chosen
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You're making, you're actually making life harder for yourself.
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And if it shows your insecurity as well, like growing up in high school, I'll never forget
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when I first, when I was like, oh my God, uh, as my previous gender, I was like, I think
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I was using, you know, that's so gay more than anyone.
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So anybody that's not down, it's like, oh, are you going through it too?
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For someone to be so, like, rustled and upset by something that doesn't affect you at all.
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And I always think too, like, if you refuse to use proper pronouns or, or inclusive language
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or whatever, like you really, you really got to be like working overtime being a bigot
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Like someone says, hey, like my pronouns, are they, them?
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Like you really got to overwork to misgender them.
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That's why I'm like, you got to be hateful 24 seven.
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That's why I'm like, I don't understand how that could possibly be like something that
00:35:34.020
And with all this visibility, I feel like the trans community is really just like blasted
00:35:37.900
out there now and like the non-binary community.
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And you know, people have to look in the mirror every single day.
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So they're looking at themselves like getting angrier.
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Like I might be a trans woman too, but I'll never do it.
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And it's like, well, then you're just a coward.
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Like you're contributing to like the oppression of marginalized groups, specifically trans people.
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And like there's like open trans genocide happening right now currently.
00:36:08.140
And you're such a coward that because you may feel some type of woman may stir something
00:36:13.180
up inside of you, you can't even stand up for them.
00:36:16.740
Like you don't have to, even if you don't want to stand up for the community, you don't
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Like it's like actively seeking it out to be awful.
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It's just so much easier to turn away or just blindly support.
00:36:47.640
That's why with the whole, um, our friend, like my friend Dylan, you know, Dylan, and
00:36:52.980
uh, like the Bud Light thing, like that whole thing happening where people were being awful
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towards her and they were boycotting Bud Light or whatever.
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That whole entire situation, I was like, you guys are so sick in the head.
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I don't know who likes the taste, but apparently a lot of people do.
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Their panties were in a bunch when they announced their partnership with Dylan.
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I read it and I was like, I got to read this again.
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And well, then I thought like you knew what you signed up for when you hired her.
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So the fact that you guys are backing off is cowardly.
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I'm like, you'll make way more money off the people who love Dylan than you will off the
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It's just like giving cowardly tail between the legs energy.
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You'll make way more money off the people who love her.
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So the fact that they not only didn't stand up for trans people in general and especially
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I just think, I think situations like that too, like with her specifically, like in people
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Okay, so the comments on this video about how we hate, this guy hates gender pronouns.
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I always think that when they're like, I don't do those pronouns.
00:41:27.920
You know, you see, they're like, what are your pronouns?
00:41:30.260
And then you go, okay, well, then I'll call you she, her.
00:41:39.880
Their brain just, that hamster is working overtime in there.
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Or they're wearing like panties under their like trousers.
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I just think like, what, it's okay if you, if you're a man, that's okay.
00:42:01.920
This one says they're just, they're just pissed.
00:42:25.280
I think people are just so ignorant these days.
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It's just like, what, like, how can't you see that somebody can live differently than you?
00:42:33.220
That's, that's at the very like, very, very bare bones of it.
00:42:44.700
And like, you can learn and you'll maybe be happier after, my love.
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That's why I said it costs you nothing to be more inclusive.
00:42:54.220
No, that was so well put, what you said earlier.
00:42:55.960
I feel like people are just so quick to be ignorant and bigots.
00:42:59.620
And it's like, once they meet somebody or get inspired by like a trans person or a non-binary
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person that they meet, it's like a light goes off.
00:43:07.720
I see it all the time whenever I do like meet and greets or whenever I'm like out or whatever.
00:43:12.140
And like, you know, like somebody will come up to me and like their dad or their mom is
00:43:17.760
And I'm just like hanging out, talking with them, whatever.
00:43:20.520
I'll crack a joke and I'll see like a little smile from, from the sidelines.
00:43:26.580
And I'm like, they definitely thought that they're like, you know, child was obsessed
00:43:30.180
with like a weirdo or whatever they think of me as.
00:43:33.400
And then I turn on them and they're like, oh my God, like she's actually kind of cool.
00:43:39.840
And like, it's like, it literally is like all these people writing this.
00:43:44.820
And it's also, what's sad is like, they shouldn't have to like see you to humanize
00:43:51.260
They shouldn't have to meet you in person to, to believe that you're a human deserving
00:43:57.680
And that's the part that, that really blows me.
00:44:03.040
Like for example, this ass dude who made this video, I don't need to meet him to know that
00:44:11.240
Getting the real experience in real life, guys, this is epic.
00:44:17.860
Like when I read these, I don't see faces at all, but I know you're ugly.
00:44:25.820
But the guy who created this video, like I can't see what you look like, but I know you're
00:44:37.000
I know you're probably like eight, eight and a half size shoe.
00:44:39.860
Like shave all your pubic hair, but have like so many razor burns.
00:44:54.580
Like boxers, like boxer, boxers, like ones that are like have holes in them and they're
00:45:01.920
And they're white, but they're now like kind of a gray color.
00:45:16.380
I think like that's one of those things that really annoys me because I'm like, someone
00:45:21.560
could tell me what their life experiences and how they identify.
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And it costs me nothing to be like, okay, cool.
00:45:28.620
Like when I started dating my, my boyfriend now, like going on seven years now, but like
00:45:34.980
when I first started dating him, um, my sister, my sister's gay and she had a partner at the
00:45:43.300
And so like when we hung out for the first time in like a few years, he's like, so what's
00:45:52.000
No, she'd been out for a minute, but like, I didn't know if he knew.
00:46:05.660
So I was like, do you have any thoughts on that particular?
00:46:14.060
That's why I said, I would be like, are you okay?
00:46:22.660
Like the second question that we talked like small talk.
00:46:36.300
And then he, my boyfriend was a sociology major.
00:46:45.160
But he, uh, he, he was a sociology major and he took a lot of, uh, women's studies
00:46:53.320
Gender and sexuality, like he learned all about that stuff.
00:46:56.660
So he talked to me a lot about it and I was like, all right.
00:47:10.920
That's what I always, that's what they always say.
00:47:12.240
The, um, I think that's the biggest test you could just hit someone with.
00:47:18.460
Cause I think inherently we are so, I think we just like know the vibes, you know, know
00:47:25.980
So if you ask someone like a hard hitting question like that, which isn't honestly even that hard
00:47:40.240
And I've told people when people ask me like, how do I know if he's like a good guy like
00:47:50.540
And I was like, but second of all, ask upfront, like, do you hate gay people?
00:47:58.400
Ask all those questions upfront, get it out of the way.
00:48:01.100
And then you don't waste any time or just live in delusion that you could do that for
00:48:14.140
Thankfully, I'm not going to, unlike the man who made this video, though.
00:48:23.440
And I feel like you guys, men like that or women like whoever, just bigots in general,
00:48:30.400
All of that energy that they put into that, they could just put into shut the f*** up.
00:48:35.480
And just, I just have experienced it so many times.
00:48:39.380
Even like some trans girls that I know, they have been so hateful to me.
00:48:48.960
And that's why in this book, we have a chapter called Competition Within the Community.
00:48:54.320
And I think it's so funny because you would think, I think a lot of people think like,
00:49:01.800
The LGBTQIA plus community, but there's so much hatred within it.
00:49:09.280
And I think that is just, it just, the comments like these, I'm like, girl, give it a few years.
00:49:18.180
And that's honestly what I think about when I think about like my trans friends,
00:49:22.360
like how I'm just in such admiration of the patience that they have and the understanding
00:49:28.800
and the empathy that they hold for people who are really, really hateful towards them.
00:49:33.520
Because like you said, like sometimes they're struggling with their own identity or sexuality,
00:49:43.800
And the trans community, as much vitriol and shit and horror that you guys suffer,
00:49:55.640
I mean, I'm like the most impatient person, but I think maybe I'm not now.
00:50:00.640
Talking to you, I'm like, maybe I am kind of patient.
00:50:03.640
Like, all my trans friends are so incredibly like understanding and empathetic towards like
00:50:09.420
the most hateful comments that they get because they're like, well, I know what it feels like.
00:50:13.380
Like what you're saying, like I had, I went through a period where I struggled with my
00:50:17.480
own kind of like internalized biases, which I feel like we all have to some capacity.
00:50:22.600
But what's crazy is how they show up for others.
00:50:26.080
Like the trans community always shows up for others.
00:50:29.700
I'm thinking about one friend of mine in particular, and she is like one of the most resilient,
00:50:41.940
You know, like I don't really see that in myself, but seeing her, I'm like, she could
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She can like, like I've, I've seen her be dealt the worst cards, had, have the worst
00:50:55.520
And I just see her and I'm like, you are a strong bitch.
00:50:58.880
Like you are the reason you are the, like you are one of the strongest women I know.
00:51:03.840
You are the reason why people should look up to trans women.
00:51:08.060
She's younger than me, but she, she is the reason.
00:51:10.760
I feel like at the, when I first started transitioning, I always made a joke.
00:51:15.640
I'm more of a woman than women who were born women because I had to fight and I had to like
00:51:20.740
do all of this, you know, to create myself basically.
00:51:24.000
Um, and I see that within her and it's so inspiring.
00:51:29.960
It inspires me endlessly, but it also like, it's, it's, it inspires me like in a, just
00:51:37.960
like in a sociological sense, but it also inspires me personally because I feel like trans women,
00:51:42.900
like you said, have had to fight for so long and continue to do so even now, not just for
00:51:49.120
Whatever intersections they may sit at, but they have such a strong sense of self, like
00:51:54.380
so confident in who they are and what they like and what they want.
00:52:00.020
You just have to, for so long we've been told what we want, who we are.
00:52:08.720
Like they, it's just like how confident you are in the decisions and how you choose to
00:52:13.840
be perceived by the world is something that I envy.
00:52:25.480
And I feel, but I feel like too, my path was obviously a lot easier and that's why,
00:52:30.080
because that's not something that has oppressed me personally, but that is something that I
00:52:34.140
admire because I feel like, well, first of all, trans women make the world go around
00:52:38.500
for many reasons, but they have inspired so much of what is now youth culture today.
00:52:44.000
Anything that you like more oftentimes than not can be traced back to the LGBTQIA plus
00:52:50.640
Anything that's popular, trending, hip, whatever for the young Gen Zers, that's like literally
00:52:57.160
it can all be drawn back to where it came from, which is black trans women, but also the LGBTQIA
00:53:08.740
That's why I'm like, you guys, you just inspire me.
00:53:14.660
And so what else do you want people to know when it comes to living your most authentic
00:53:19.140
life and being, being like the truest form of yourself?
00:53:23.620
I think the most important thing about being authentic and being true with yourself is really
00:53:28.120
checking in with yourself because you can get really comfy at the place that you're at.
00:53:36.740
So you got to really check in with yourself, make sure that you're happy, that the people
00:53:41.680
around you are good, making you feel good and any changes that you want to make in your
00:53:47.320
You know, like coming out as trans is a huge feat, obviously.
00:53:50.420
But, you know, after that, there's so much work to be done.
00:53:58.140
Me and my husband are trying to do this IVF journey, trying to create an embryo.
00:54:04.600
So just always keep checking in with yourself because that, I, I don't know why I get so
00:54:09.960
bothered by the word authentic, like my authentic self.
00:54:13.580
I don't know why it makes me cringe, but it, it really does make you more authentic.
00:54:22.060
And I feel like too, I mean, even, I, even so as women, like we're taught for so long
00:54:28.320
and conditioned like socially to always prioritize the needs of others and how, checking on how
00:54:35.160
So I feel like that's even more important, like, especially, um, now in this day and
00:54:39.980
age where we're exposed to so many things and so much, um, media that we should, like
00:54:45.000
you said, be checking in, see how we're feeling, see what we want, what we really want, what
00:54:50.620
Something that I heard actually on a podcast yesterday, I forget which one, but it was
00:54:55.780
that our inner saboteur, like the voices, the negative voices we hear like in our head.
00:55:06.300
And it really like, I've heard that before or whatever, but it just really like hit me
00:55:11.360
and I feel like it was like an awakening within myself.
00:55:14.540
I'm like, oh my God, like those are literally a projection of society, what everyone else
00:55:19.760
is doing, what everyone else is thinking, how I should feel, what I should do.
00:55:23.440
So you don't have to listen to those and it's how you talk to yourself is what matters.
00:55:30.240
I think we're also the meanest to ourselves too.
00:55:33.680
So like, like you said, that's when those, yeah, that's when they creep in.
00:55:37.340
I think when you start listening to them is when you like start being really mean to yourself.
00:55:41.620
Like no one's ever going to be meaner to you than you.
00:55:44.240
So I feel like that's why, like you said, it's really important that you talk yourself up
00:55:51.200
Like listening to podcasts or like reading self-help books, like how you talk to yourself
00:55:58.040
When you were an athlete, like a soccer player back in the day, did you ever be like, oh,
00:56:04.060
I'm going to like, I'm going to suck at this match.
00:56:06.120
I'm going to like totally bomb this just to like keep the standards low.
00:56:09.480
So when you do something good, the success is higher.
00:56:15.160
Especially when I knew it was going to be harder.
00:56:18.680
So if I do bad, like it's like me setting the bar low.
00:56:26.720
I did so good despite me being horrible or almost being horrible.
00:56:31.500
I feel like I still do that now, but it's way less.
00:56:34.480
And I think that that's something that everybody can work on because how you talk to yourself
00:56:40.020
And it literally makes you like a happier person.
00:56:45.300
Your life turns out, like everything starts to fall into place, I think, too, sometimes
00:56:49.280
when you really work on how you talk to yourself.
00:56:57.920
I feel like I do naturally, but like, yeah, that's like causing the astrology card.
00:57:02.400
Girl, everything you have in life, I bet you manifested it.
00:57:09.020
I'm so lucky and everything good happens, comes my way or whatever.
00:57:22.600
What do you want to tell people about your amazing book?
00:57:26.560
So, the Tea Guide is available now wherever books are sold.
00:57:31.180
We were really, really, we were really inspired by each other's stories.
00:57:35.180
You'd think that, you know, a trans man and a trans woman wouldn't really have that
00:57:47.500
And although it is a guide for transitioning, it really is about the human experience.
00:57:52.360
It's really just about having, you know, empathy for other people.
00:57:57.260
And their experiences, along with all of our resources that we've come to know over the
00:58:11.180
And I think, I genuinely believe, like, books like this will, like, save lives.
00:58:19.320
So, make sure y'all go get Gigi and Gottmik's new book.
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Thank you to amazing guests, Gigi, for being here today.
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