LET'S NORMALIZE SECRETS... Ft. Never Ending Fall ｜ The Comment Section Ep. 89
Summary
On this episode of the comment section, we are joined by the legendary rock band, Never Ending Fall. They are a band from Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and are one of the most successful and well-known bands in the entire country. We talk about their music, their influences, and what it's like being in a rock band.
Transcript
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Johnny goes, oh yeah, I've heard that before, and I'm right next to him, and I was like,
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hey, sorry, did you say, does he look like the Canna Kirkland guy?
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And she was like, yeah, and I was like, that is him.
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And I was like, oh yeah, yeah, and I was like, yeah, that is me.
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And I was like, I didn't realize, and I said like, oh yeah, I get that a lot now.
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Hey everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show.
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And today, we have many very, very special guests.
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Today, we have the one, the only, the iconic, the legendary, never-ending fall.
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This is the most people I've ever had in the world.
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Kind of like class, we'll go around, everyone can say their name and what they do in the band.
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So, my name is Johnny, and I am the bass player of Never Ending Fall.
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I also do a little bit of background vocals, you know?
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Last but not least, my name is Pierce, and I am also a guitar player in the band.
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No, but last time we were here, we were on our buddy Dom's podcast.
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I don't know if it's just this network of people, but every time we just meet someone
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that's accompanied with this, we just hit it off.
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Bessie's just hanging out, doing our thing, having fun.
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What do you play in the band if you had to choose an instrument?
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Like, I make sure the vibes are good and everyone's having fun.
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They are also known for a very popular series on TikTok called Kenneth Kirkland.
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Not everyone who didn't know your music goes, oh.
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We were just on tour and there was multiple instances.
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But there was multiple instances where we went on stage and people in the crowd were like,
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So tell me a little bit about your guys' start.
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So funny thing is we actually, me and Conrad, we met in fourth grade and just started the
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We were like, man, like we should get a little group together.
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And us and our buddy, Chris Monahan formed the band all the way back then.
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So children kind of like Tommy's dad was different.
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Tommy's dad was like kind of our coach, so to speak.
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And then eventually probably we've been this formation, I would say, for about like nine
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And then we kind of just grinded it out for like most of our childhood.
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We went to college and then we graduated college.
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And then we're like, we're going to go to school.
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So, yeah, Towson University, it's like a smaller school.
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And then after that, we're like, we got to make like a big move because it was like COVID.
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We were doing it for like, you know, six years on repeat playing these bar gigs and stuff.
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And then we decided, you know, we have to make the next step.
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So then we moved to Los Angeles and we're like, oh, everybody's doing TikTok out here.
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So like, let's make this like fun little series just for fun with the Cana Kirkland.
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I didn't think a single person was going to watch it.
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I remember watching back at the video was like, this is hilarious, but this is like the dumbest
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And then Victoria Paris, who's also been on this show.
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But she was the first person to like hit us up and was like,
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And then we've had so many people on at this point.
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But like they have like preschool pictures together.
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So me, Conrad and Pierce, we have like preschool pictures together.
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And we've just known each other for far too long.
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We've only hung out with each other for like our whole lives.
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When we're on tour, our managers will be like, hey, do you guys have anybody for guest lists
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Just start writing our own names just to make us feel better.
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We get along super well, which is nice because we all live with each other.
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But like for other groups, but for us, it works so well.
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I would like to say that our band is kind of similar to, I watched an interview of the
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1975 and they had talked about like how they have like a very special connection with only
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the members of their, like they're all similar upbringing, you know, like they were all best
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friends grew up together and they literally said, they were like, I have a connection with these, like with my bandmates.
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And it's more of a connection that I've ever had with someone like ever before.
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And it's kind of hard to like put it into words because it's like, I don't know, like we just get
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An eternal bond that has been around for a while.
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Did you guys always want to make music be a band?
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We just started so young that it was kind of like, it was kind of like, you know, kids
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We all did play sports too, but like we took it way too seriously at a young age.
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Sports wise, like, so like what he just said, like for me, it was like playing sports until
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like, so I had like sports asthma, so I stopped playing sports.
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And then in like seventh grade, that's when I met Tommy.
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And then I was like, I used to play guitar at the time and like stopped, whatever, met
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Tommy and like saw the band was like, okay, let's do it.
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And like, that's like sort of kind of my origin story with the band.
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But sports wise, I used to play soccer, lacrosse and basketball.
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Yeah, but now we're all pro tennis players like we were talking about.
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They were telling me you guys play tennis all the time.
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And I said, it's a very extremely white activity, but I support you.
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I started doing, I started really channeling the inner white.
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I started doing the grunting thing where I like hit it.
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I just wanted to try it out, see what it was like, you know.
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And also we've been trying to drink less, to be honest with you.
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So at night we're like, we're like, we could like do this for like an hour and like, you
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And that offsets the 32 seltzers you have when you're home.
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Did you all play different sports or no sports at all?
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And like, well, because I was just like the biggest kid on the field.
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And so I was like, always on center or nose guard, which is like, I'm going against the biggest dudes.
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Did you play for like multiple years or was it like a one and done thing?
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I got a few college scholarships, but I decided to go for school instead.
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I couldn't name you a single position on the field for soccer.
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All you need to know is I'm just running a lot.
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I was also the biggest soccer player they've ever seen in our entire life.
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Because they'd be like, this grown man is on the field with seven-year-olds.
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Growing up, that was what I had to do because I was the biggest soccer player they've ever
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Have you guys seen a lot of, like, success with kind of trying to couple, like, social
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You know, because obviously you're a band first, but everybody, some people might know
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you for simply, like, just the Can It Kirkland stuff.
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Has it helped you kind of, like, maybe explore other things that you want to try?
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Like, it's definitely strange going into social media and being, like, a band at the same
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time, especially because they're so different the way that we do it.
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I think a lot of, like, groups, artists will just do the music thing, and their social media
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While we have, like, two separate lives that we live.
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But I think they, like, live in their special place.
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And it's definitely brought in so many people to our music, like, especially the Can It Kirkland
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Which was a good correlation because, like, people were like, oh, my God, I love this song
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so much when we were like, yeah, because we're a band.
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We made that song at 3 a.m., you know, not in the right mindset, you know?
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And it's like, you should hear the music we spend, like, years or months on, you know?
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But, and I think, like, definitely blessed in the way that, like, that Can It Kirkland
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happened because when we moved to L.A., like, we didn't know what we were going to do.
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And to, like, kind of touch down in Los Angeles and for it to work definitely helped the music
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We sold out, like, 20 shows, which was, like, we never did that before.
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And it's, like, just smaller shows, but still, like, even have one person come to our show
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Yeah, well, and it's just, like, it's, because we were so used for so many years to playing
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to the bartenders or to the sound guy in the room, you know, like, there was no one
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So, it's, like, it's really refreshing to see, like, we never, you know, anticipated
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getting a huge, you know, fan base, you know, a huge audience with this kind of Kirkland
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series, but we were just, like, let's just have fun.
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We always used to make skits together, like, you know, just, like, for fun.
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We were, like, let's just do what we always do and make, like, a little skit and it
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Thankfully, it's gotten us into the eyes of a lot of people that, you know, got to see
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our personalities because, like, that I would say is, like, a big, not, like, flaw, but,
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like, a thing that a lot of bands kind of, like, tend to stay away from is showing their
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personality because, like, you have a fan base and it's, like, your fans kind of, like,
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say, for instance, like, you have, like, you know, like, say, back in the day that all
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the boy bands growing up in, like, the 2000s, you know, like, everyone had their favorite
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member in, like, say, like, NSYNC or something like that because they were very good
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at showing their personalities and stuff like that.
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Like, everyone had their favorite One Direction member and it was, like, because they showed
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their personality so well and thankfully, you know, Ken Kirkland has been that for us,
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He got to show us, like, in a very effortless way, you know, like, hey, this is us just
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We just put a camera in front of it and, you know, decided to drink this.
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You know, like, we're pretty much the same people on camera.
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Also, I want to say, they record everything themselves.
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Like, they just go and they're like, they're like, they're going to set up the tripod.
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It's awesome being in a position to be able to, like, do what we always dreamt of doing.
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Like, we have a series called John Salons 2, which is even weirder, where Johnny cuts
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And pretty much, yeah, just, like, physically assaults him off all day, you know?
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I can't believe this is, like, I just realized you guys are the Canna Kirkland guys.
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I think that's a really refreshing take on it, because I feel like, obviously, like,
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this show, too, I've had lots of artists on, like, traditional music artists and everything,
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but, like, I think sometimes the problem is they fight against social media, because
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they're like, well, I don't want to be known as, like, a TikToker.
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Yeah, I want to be known as an artist, which is, like...
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Now, you know, like, labels are forcing artists to get TikToks to promote music.
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So the beautiful thing about you guys leaning into the skid is, like, well, I mean, I'm
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Even if you thought it was going to be a can of Kirkland.
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Like, we have videos from, like, when we were kids doing it.
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So it's like, if we can just do this and make music, like, that's the life.
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Well, no, like you said, you're known for your personalities, too.
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And kind of piggybacking on what you said earlier, like, about, like, the whole, like,
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bands not leaning into, like, the social media thing.
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Especially with the way, like, a lot of these platforms work, like, they can put you in
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front of so many eyes that you would never be able to, you know, be in front of.
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It's kind of like, okay, like, there's one video that could, you know, blow up.
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And it's like, that could be your moment to be like, hey, I want to showcase myself
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And thankfully, you know, like, there's platforms where they're, like, algorithms will just randomly
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push, like, a random video of yours to 100,000 people overnight.
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I think, too, it also, it introduces you to brands and all of that.
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And you can financially make this, like, a thing.
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And regardless, we'd have to be doing something to...
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There's no money in music unless you're, like, pop it.
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And we don't, like, we're not part of a record label or anything.
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So this definitely, like, social media has basically bankrolled us to even be musicians.
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Well, that one, so that, so the 20 shows, that was back in October of last year.
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We just got back from opening for our buddies, Quarters of Change.
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And that was pretty much just, like, East Coast, a little bit towards the Midwest.
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And we got a little something coming up that hasn't been announced yet.
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Not announced, but, you know, in the coming new year.
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But, yeah, it was so much fun being able to go on the road with those guys because,
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one, they're awesome musicians, awesome artists.
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And it was just inspiring being able to see them on the road and just being able to see
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Like, there's nothing that we love more than just, like, going out and meeting the fans
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I feel like being on the road really just kind of connects you and rekindles.
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Like, it's easy to be out here in Los Angeles working on music and kind of get stuck in
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But, like, to get out to different cities, especially cities you've never been to, and
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to see that there's a fan base for that, like, it's really inspiring and makes you so grateful
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And I would say the one thing we do, too, like, at all of our shows.
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After our set, we go out into the crowd and we meet every single fan that we can possibly
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Like, dude, like, that's our main thing because it's, like, y'all made it happen.
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So, it's, like, why am I not going to say hi to you?
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Like, they'll, like, be, like, oh, my gosh, it's so crazy to me.
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The funniest thing about being, like, Kirkland, too, like, we were in Lawrence and we had,
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like, a line of people waiting to meet us and, like, I, like, tapped Johnny and there's
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Oh, my gosh, you're going to take a shot with me.
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And I'm, like, oh, no, dude, I'm, like, oh, okay.
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Like, every fan comes up to you because we're kind of known for drinking.
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Have you ever toured before, like, with your podcast?
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I did, like, a little comedy tour with my sister.
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Like, we did, like, four shows earlier this year.
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Like, I've done all kinds of crazy shit with this job.
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But, like, that's the scariest shit I've ever done is, like, live performing.
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Do you get, like, the, I call it, like, Adele talked about it.
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She literally, before every single one of her shows, has said that she, like, gets deathly
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nervous, like, to a point where she's, like, in the bathroom, like, throwing up.
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Yeah, so I get the drinking, because, like, I told y'all I don't really drink that much,
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So, we were in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and I think it's Wisconsin.
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Anyways, there was this, you know, very kind young woman that came up to me and was, like...
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She was with her boyfriend, I'm assuming, and she comes up to me, and she's, like...
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I think she was one of the other band's fans, so she didn't really recognize me or whatever.
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And she was, like, hey, has anybody ever told you, like, you look like the Kenneth Kirkland
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I'm so dumb, and I'm just, like, yeah, I get that a lot.
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No, no, Johnny goes, oh, yeah, I've heard that before, and I'm right next to him, and
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I was, like, hey, sorry, did you say, does he look like the Kenneth Kirkland guy?
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And she was, like, yeah, and I was, like, that is him.
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And I was, like, oh, yeah, yeah, and I was, like, yeah, that is me.
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I should start leaning into that whenever someone says, are you the Kenneth Kirkland guy?
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You're, like, I actually never heard of that guy.
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You're, like, who the fuck are you talking about?
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I was in Hawaii, and she came up to me, and she was, like, oh, my gosh, like, I'm such a
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And she goes, yeah, like, yeah, I just love you so much.
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I said, if you're asking me if my name is Coco, the answer is no.
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So I don't want to take credit for whoever Coco is.
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And then she was with a twin, and her twin was, like, I don't think that's her.
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Like, I heard her twin going, I don't think that's her.
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Like, she's, like, arguing with her sister, arguing with me.
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I feel like you don't need me for this part of the conversation.
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So if you've ever seen this, Coco, I don't know if we look alike, but.
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Sometimes I'll get people who approach me, but it's very obvious they don't know my name.
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And they sit there, they're, like, hold on, let me think about it.
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I had someone one time, they came up to me at, like, a bar in Ocean City, Maryland.
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And they were, like, you're a kind of crooked guy.
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And she was, like, don't consider yourself number two behind anyone.
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I was, like, your confidence wasn't where she needed it to be.
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I, like, ruined our whole conversation by simply stating I'm number two.
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I could tell her friends are asking her who I am because they didn't know.
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And then she goes, I don't know her fucking name.
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Do you guys primarily notice you have more so female fans than anything?
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Especially at shows, like, everyone goes so hard.
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Which is, like, kind of, like, I don't know, you don't see it as much now, like, shows these
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days, and, like, it's so cool to see the energy levels, like, at shows.
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I get, I was getting super nervous, like, live touring, too, so I can't imagine how you
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guys feel, because I can't sing for shit, but y'all are, like, an actual musical group,
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Yeah, I'll say it's easier to have the music to sort of hide behind, because I don't have
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to get up there and be like, so, guys, like, how's everyone's day going?
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I get to, you know, we get to, like, plug in, turn the amps up, and just, like, kind
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Like, when I'm backstage, I get, like, nervous, and I'll start to overthink and spiral, but
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then once I get out there, I just plug in, start making noise.
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There's, like, moments, too, like, say, for instance, when I'm up on stage, fans, too,
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whoever's watching, you guys will probably notice this at shows.
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If I get really nervous for a show, I'll just go up on stage and just close my eyes
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and just, like, act like I'm just, like, jamming out.
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I'm just, like, I just gotta give myself a second to breathe, you know, like, yeah,
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Which is even hard, like, even singing, too, I kind of have to, like, think of things to
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Yeah, and half the time, I'm, like, out of breath, because I was so out of shape on tour, like,
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jumping around singing, I'm, like, yeah, what the fuck's up, everybody?
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It's, like, I saw, like, Beyonce, like, when she did her Coachella performance, like,
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Beachella or whatever, she would run a mile and sing at the same time.
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So you guys said that you played a lot of, like, little gigs before, right?
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I got offered to do an acoustic gig at, like, a new company.
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And they were, like, can you play, like, a four-hour set?
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And I was, like, sure, and I roll up, and it's a construction site.
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Nine to one a.m. usually was, like, the typical time we were playing.
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And I rolled up, and it's an incomplete building.
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I was, like, surely I must be at the wrong location.
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And, like, I was working for a loft at the time,
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Like, totally unqualified for that job, first and foremost.
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Yeah, so she's, like, yeah, yeah, you're playing on the fourth floor.
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She's, like, unfortunately, you have to walk up all, like,
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And then she hands me a hard hat and, like, a vest.
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And she's, like, you don't happen to have, like,
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Are you sensitive to, like, bricks falling on your head?
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The building could come down while you're playing Wonderwall.
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It was just while I was playing counting crows.
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Literally, people were taking pictures of me while I was playing,
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and I'm just, like, this is the lowest point of my life.
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they get, like, a band or, like, a single person playing music.
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And I'll see, like, videos on Facebook of, like, all that,
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and I'm, like, damn, I get PTSD from that very moment.
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so we're, like, oh, who the fuck's going to listen to this?
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There's, like, pictures of, like, AR-15s, like, you know, like...
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And we're, like, we aren't the ones, like, to be here.
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I got out of the truck when we first got to the place.
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I got out of the truck, and I looked at all of them.
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And it was just, like, it was the weirdest experience.
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Because they were uncomfortable that we were there, too.
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Yeah, they were, like, we should have hired somebody else.
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We were just talking and saying, I'm just like, how many of you guys go to high school?
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I think they started doing, like, keg throws, too.
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Yeah, then there's this huge guy just starts throwing kegs.
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And I was, like, guys, can we get the fuck out of here?
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We always started our, like, bar gig sets with, like, this long jam called Strasburg
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And this guy goes, like, are you guys going to play any songs with words?
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He goes, I bet you can't play anything good for $20.
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And then we just busted out a Johnny Cash song.
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Just imagine this group of people at a biker bar in the middle of PA.
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Like, people, we walked in there, and, like, the record scratched.
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Maybe they just, maybe they think you're all just so attractive.
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I've never done anything, like, obviously I'm not musically gifted, literally at all.
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But I, when I was in high school, I used to dance, like, do cultural dance.
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So, like, I used to do, like, Polynesian dancing.
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Like, they love to watch Tahitian hula, like, that kind of stuff.
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And, like, one time we got asked to dance at a senior citizen home.
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And I was, senior citizen homes, like, they be hiring Polynesian dance groups.
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And, like, I could have dropped dead in front of them, and they wouldn't have cared.
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And it's, like, the room was so small that, like, we were this close.
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Like, they're not even going to clap because they're all old as fuck.
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Yeah, and then they're just, they're just kind of sitting there.
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Like, they wheel them in there, and they can't get out on their own.
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So, it's, like, you're performing for hostages.
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And it's so funny because, like, a lot of the men's dancing and cultural dancing, like,
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Yeah, and then them chanting, and then old people just sitting there, like.
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So, they didn't, not only did they not get it, they didn't like it.
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And then the lady goes, they said that we were going to get lunch.
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And I go, you know, I'm probably not the person to ask considering I'm the higher half.
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I'm the shit that you're being forced to watch.
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Like, it was like, they were even more annoyed.
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I would have been like, guys, what are we doing here?
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So many of my family members, like, did cultural dancing.
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But I'm, like, the only Polynesian on planet Earth that can't sing or play an instrument.
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And we used to, like, my cousins would go perform or whatever places.
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And I remember I had an uncle that, he's, like, okay, just to set the scene.
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And he said he hired, like, a group to dance and sing and stuff.
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But he's topless and he's, like, fire knife dancing in front of my high school friends.
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I'm, like, watching him dance and I'm, like, oh, my fucking God.
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And then he puts it out in my boyfriend's pool.
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High school kids don't really give a fuck about that.
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Especially when you're in the wrong place in the wrong time.
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Especially when you're performing jazz in front of bikers.
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The fact that you guys have more than one story doing that is crazy.
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And the funny thing, we don't even play jazz stuff anymore.
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You're like, they subconsciously inspired us, you know?
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Those bikers are probably like, and they were mad at me.
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If I wasn't so mean to them, they might not be who they are now.
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I mean, the Doobie Brothers, didn't they dress up?
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That's what makes me laugh, is that you show up like this and you play jazz.
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If I saw that, you look like this and you play jazz?
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If I hired you and you played jazz, I'd be mad.
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We were a part of the Maryland Music Awards once, because we're all from Maryland.
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And we were a part of the Maryland Music Awards once, and we got voted.
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Keep in mind, we're being nominated for best reggae band.
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You're just rickrolling people, but it's playing jazz.
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Now that we mentioned it, no wonder we couldn't get good games.
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Now that you're like, no, that kind of thing about it.
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Like hindsight 2020, it's like, Booker's probably like, we have no idea what they play.
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That I would buy more than jazz, if I'm being honest.
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If I saw you and you guys said you did more like a slightly stupid iration kind of vibe,
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Well, it sounds like you can play any genre now.
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I feel like we're pretty comfortable playing a ton of music, which is nice being a musician
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But yeah, definitely PTSD from many nine years of experience.
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My boyfriend and I's first date was a slightly stupid concert.
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Like, we're just like, why are me and my big brown boyfriend at Slightly Stupid?
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And I was like, so they call their fans stupid heads.
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But they're friends with all like the revolution Slightly Stupid guys.
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Every time they come out here, we get to like hang out with those bands.
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I don't think we ever created a name for the people in it, but we'll get there.
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We'll talk about one of these videos because we did a lot of kiki-ing, which is a good thing.
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So our topic for today is like, can it be funny without being bigoted?
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So y'all are obviously extremely funny without punching down at all.
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And I don't think it's very hard, unlike how some people will make it seem.
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So I'm going to read this first video to y'all and then we'll just react to it.
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So in this video, a man is making it on the street kind of thing where he's asking, like
00:46:22.940
And he asks a guy, she's a 10, but she doesn't shave.
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And the guy responds that she's a one and then continues, she's not a traditional woman.
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Why in the fuck did they even bring in the BLM and Biden shit?
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You know, like a child in like, you know, like third grade, like kind of like going off
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of a, or like even kindergarten, like going off about absolutely nothing.
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Well, he's probably got the IQ of one, so that's probably why.
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I think the comments on this, like this is, look, I don't support the other stuff he said,
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but the hair part is a personal preference and you don't have to agree with him.
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It's, if it's your body, do whatever the fuck you want.
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Why the fuck does anybody have any say in that?
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It's a preference and women can prefer to never have sex with you.
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So if you care, and if you care about that, they won't.
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If the goal is to get women, don't know why you hate them.
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The other three are taken, but if y'all are interested, two in the middle are not.
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I mean, like, I think, you know, like you can have preferences, like everyone has a type
00:48:16.440
But, you know, and like whatever, you're allowed to rate anyone, but to bring in everything
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Like when you think about the traditional woman, like what?
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It's also like, it seems like he had all that ready to go.
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Most of those street interviews are like planned.
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And they all feel staged or like, it's just like, you're asking, obviously the type of
00:48:55.320
This type of person is going to give me that response.
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The interviewer probably is stoked he got that response.
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And they're like, hello, random stranger on the street.
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That I've never met before and I didn't go to preschool with.
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Those always be the dudes too that like, don't be flossing.
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It's not like we cleaned for three hours before you got there.
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Like, I think that it's, yeah, it's just men complaining about things they don't have.
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It's like, why would you have to bring in all those other things?
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It's like, why are you, why do you even need to bring in like things like that?
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Like when it comes to like your body and like hair and shit, it's like, hair bothers.
00:50:03.240
And I, I'm just saying, I'm just saying I'm always right.
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I don't know about how much longer, but, uh, I'm telling you, I make, and they like me.
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The hat's covering up a little bit of the receding.
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These are all straight white men and they like me.
00:50:19.600
But yeah, I just, I just don't, I don't understand the whole, the whole reasoning behind
00:50:24.700
Like, cause even in like other aspects, like, you know, other, you know, areas of life,
00:50:29.400
like that type of response is brought up a lot.
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Like there was absolutely no, you got nowhere with it.
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This next comment says, imagine though your girl has a beard.
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I'm assuming like the shaving thing is like a big deal with them.
00:50:56.980
Well, I don't think that exists, but if it does, she's with someone who loves her and
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So, you know, I can't really comprehend like watching.
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There's so many of those like clickbaity type videos.
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You know, creators like, for example, we don't like talk about it.
00:51:13.980
But like these creators do that because it's like, they know what's going to get views.
00:51:18.360
So it's like, if you take this guy into example who went and created that video waiting for
00:51:22.680
that response, like he could have done like five, 10, like 15 takes just to get that.
00:51:28.280
But it's even like for like what we're talking about is I see that stuff on the internet
00:51:31.680
and like, obviously you're going to like open the comment section and see how.
00:51:35.840
And you can like guess what the reaction is going to be.
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I don't fucking get it at all because it's like.
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It's almost like the videos are meant for the comment section.
00:52:01.760
We thought we, when we first did it, we were like, oh, like we should be prepared to
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get hate because like we, we never made a TikTok or we'd never been that place.
00:52:11.620
I mean, some people will, you know, go out of their way, go out of their way.
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I think it's kind of hard to hate when like, we're just genuinely being ourselves.
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Like half the stuff like we've done, like just like as like friends, it's just like, because
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But like, it's just like, we're just having fun, living life.
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Like, I would never, if you ever endeavored anything in your life that I'm against, I
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Even if it's something I don't agree with, like that's, you know, like.
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Like commenting hate feels like unemployed behavior to me.
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Like I went and wrote something mean on your shit.
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Imagine laying down at night, you're just scrolling through TikTokers and you see something
00:53:25.860
You know, it's funny because I feel like the meanest, because sometimes I always get people
00:53:29.980
asking me like, what's the meanest thing a man has ever said to you?
00:53:32.020
And I'm like, no man has ever hurt my feelings literally ever on the internet.
00:53:34.400
But one guy made one comment about me that sticks with me to this day and I talk about
00:53:38.280
all the time, but he's told me I looked like this girl put the screenshot of me, which is
00:53:47.480
But she some guy just said I looked like the pot of greed card from Yu-Gi-Oh, which like
00:54:03.540
When I looked it up, I said, damn, you kind of got me.
00:54:10.640
Like he was just like a passerby and was like, you're really ugly, by the way.
00:54:15.540
Here's a just pot of, you know, which like game recognized game.
00:54:22.960
But like, I feel like men commenting hate is just so, or people commenting hate in general.
00:54:34.900
Like literally sitting and breathing is better use of your time, I feel like.
00:54:40.320
Like, goddamn, why are you being mean to people?
00:54:49.960
Busy being mean to strangers with no idea who they are, you know?
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You're not the statement of Johnny just giving advice.
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Honestly, I've made, I've made, I've made comments before where I've said like, the meanest
00:55:10.580
things I've ever heard were actually things meant to be nice.
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But even like, aside from like, Kenneth Kirk and like, all the other like, series slash
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If there's like one person who's getting the fucking comments that we're talking about,
00:55:38.180
So like, basically, like when I grew up, like I had like long hair, like since I was
00:55:43.840
And then like, I don't know if it's because like the way the camera makes me look, whatever.
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Like the biggest thing, it's always like, is this like cis girl with a stash or like
00:55:51.560
everyone always thinks like I'm a girl disguising myself as a man to be.
00:56:05.020
They're like saying it in a way that's loving though?
00:56:10.240
It's like, it's like kind of nice, but it's like, it's, but it's not.
00:56:14.400
But then they'll like say like some crazy shit after it.
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It would be like, oh my gosh, like you have such beautiful hair.
00:56:22.460
Like, or like, or like some shit like where it's like, okay, what?
00:56:26.820
Like, or like, yeah, it's like some stuff like that.
00:56:29.280
And the reaction is you don't really know what to do.
00:56:32.420
And you're like, what do I do with my, I don't know what to do with my hands.
00:56:38.040
Like, they're like, oh my gosh, you have such beautiful hair.
00:56:45.160
It's like, it's like, oh, thanks for saying my hair is nice.
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But it's like, but then like, you also just like, oh, okay.
00:56:57.720
Like if you're like a content creator, like you're going to.
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And if it's mean, I've noticed that a lot of the time it's like a 13 year old.
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Like just spewing crazy, you know, bullshit for no reason.
00:57:15.280
I'm like, this is a child, you know, fucking child, you know, I've gotten, I've gotten like
00:57:24.800
I got one recently that I was like, damn bitch.
00:57:34.040
And then she wrote, um, I especially love that you like go to like, you know, events
00:57:42.040
And, um, you know, cause I personally, um, I've been really, really insecure my entire
00:57:47.680
life about my big manly shoulders and like seeing you wear strapless things and like seeing
00:57:54.040
you with your shoulders out, like makes me feel a little bit better about my big manly
00:58:06.920
I said when I read it, I was like, this is supposed to be a compliment bitch.
00:58:18.940
But seeing you and your big manly shoulders, she wrote big comma, manly comma.
00:58:26.640
She wrote that three times in one message, girl.
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Cause it's almost like if you're gonna, like, clearly you helped her, you empowered her or
00:59:04.800
There's so many better ways you could have just said that.
00:59:06.580
You could have been like, like the way that you present your body.
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That avocado video with the kid that gets the avocado for Christmas.
00:59:30.140
I'm so glad my big manly shoulders could help you.
00:59:48.060
We've been trying to get on that 9 a.m. every day.
01:00:04.500
No, but it's more just like, you know, the drinking thing again.
01:00:15.940
Well, thank you guys so much for coming on the show.
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Thank you so much for coming on this episode of the comment section.
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Guys, we've got a lot of big news coming up in the next few months, too.
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Mine, everyone, is John underscore the underscore vibe.
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And you can find me exclusively on Instagram at Pierce.
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Once again, thank you so much for having us on.
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And the most straight men I've ever had on the show.
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I think I've had like two straight men on my show.
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You just added five really quickly, really quickly.
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