The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - LET’S! Ft. Boman Martinez-Reid

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00:00:30.180 The boys kiss.

00:00:31.380 They kiss.

00:00:31.840 First of all, normalize the boys kissing.

00:00:33.760 Yes.

00:00:34.260 I watched Boots on Netflix.

00:00:36.420 Okay.

00:00:37.060 It was cute.

00:00:37.500 My sister watched that.

00:00:38.320 She said she loved it.

00:00:38.820 It was cute.

00:00:39.380 I was like, when do the boys kiss?

00:00:41.820 Hey, get to the kissing.

00:00:43.360 Oh, you want to talk about get to the kissing?

00:00:46.680 They said, all right, start kissing now.

00:00:51.800 Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show, starring me, your

00:01:03.360 fave, who cares about me.

00:01:04.500 On to the guest.

00:01:05.680 Today, we have the iconic, the hilarious, the legendary, another all-star, Bowman Martinez.

00:01:12.220 Woo!

00:01:13.040 Oh!

00:01:15.060 All right, let's get this over with.

00:01:16.320 Yeah.

00:01:16.680 Welcome back, King.

00:01:18.460 You know, I'm really happy to be here.

00:01:20.500 Sorry, be back.

00:01:21.740 Yes, be back.

00:01:22.600 Yes.

00:01:22.740 I'm happy to be the first, the first Afro-Canadian queer person of color with astigmatism to be

00:01:36.720 a returning guest on the Comment Section.

00:01:39.500 Oh, my God.

00:01:40.140 That is a fact.

00:01:41.080 Everyone, yeah, give it up.

00:01:42.020 That is a fact.

00:01:42.900 Yes, that is a fact.

00:01:44.240 Yes, you are so correct.

00:01:45.360 Thank you.

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00:02:11.760 Representation is so important.

00:02:13.040 It's really important, and I'm happy to be the one.

00:02:15.320 You know, trailblaze a path for yourself.

00:02:18.240 Yes, I'm so glad you're able to do that for me as well.

00:02:21.660 You're welcome.

00:02:22.480 And guess what?

00:02:22.520 My diversity list?

00:02:23.860 Check with you.

00:02:25.160 Yes.

00:02:26.200 You're good for the rest of the season.

00:02:27.780 Yeah, I'm good.

00:02:28.700 I don't need to worry about it anymore.

00:02:29.880 She had Bowman on you, and he has astigmatism.

00:02:34.440 I also have an astigmatism.

00:02:36.260 Okay.

00:02:36.900 Period.

00:02:37.160 I didn't know, and not to correct you here, me correcting you on your podcast, I didn't

00:02:44.760 know that it's astigmatism, not astigmatism.

00:02:49.800 It's kind of like autism.

00:02:52.000 Right.

00:02:52.520 No, no, hey, no, and by that, I mean, like, and listen, like, it's kind of like saying

00:03:05.080 I have autism.

00:03:08.440 Because you wouldn't say I have an autism.

00:03:11.780 That would be bad.

00:03:13.200 I got you, I got you.

00:03:15.960 You guys, clap if you understand what I'm saying.

00:03:19.840 Right, right, okay.

00:03:22.200 I started drooling because I was laughing.

00:03:25.500 Yeah.

00:03:28.140 James.

00:03:29.040 What was that?

00:03:30.020 What was that?

00:03:31.700 James.

00:03:32.380 Well, thank you for the enlightening moment.

00:03:34.820 We've covered a lot already.

00:03:36.080 Yeah, I will say I am listening, learning, and growing.

00:03:38.520 Yeah.

00:03:38.940 It's important to keep that top of mind.

00:03:40.800 It's important to do all those things at once.

00:03:43.200 Right here on the comments section.

00:03:46.240 We'll be back.

00:03:48.260 I am very happy to have you back.

00:03:49.880 Thank you.

00:03:50.700 I feel like we've been seeing each other everywhere lately.

00:03:52.920 Everywhere, because.

00:03:54.120 Now that you're stateside.

00:03:55.780 I've been going stateside.

00:03:58.100 Right?

00:03:59.060 Like the song.

00:04:00.340 Yeah.

00:04:00.900 Yes, yes.

00:04:01.480 I moved here.

00:04:02.680 I'm now bi-coastal, if you consider Toronto on the coast.

00:04:05.520 Sure.

00:04:06.120 I will for you.

00:04:06.980 I don't know shit about Canada.

00:04:08.080 That's okay.

00:04:08.620 Yeah.

00:04:08.940 I can, we can teach you some things.

00:04:10.580 Sure, I would love to know.

00:04:11.680 The language, the rules, the tricks of the trade of Canada.

00:04:15.940 Yeah, but I moved here.

00:04:17.860 Crazy place, LA.

00:04:19.820 Mm-hmm.

00:04:21.180 Crazy place this is.

00:04:22.460 Girl, it's a house of horrors and highlights all at the same time.

00:04:27.240 Yeah.

00:04:27.760 It's crazy.

00:04:28.360 What do you, okay, this is the one thing I'm trying to figure out.

00:04:31.620 Mm-hmm.

00:04:31.880 What do you wear here?

00:04:35.420 Like, I promise, like, the attire is so confusing.

00:04:40.500 Right.

00:04:40.960 Based off the weather or just the vibe?

00:04:42.620 All of it.

00:04:43.240 Yeah.

00:04:43.800 All of it.

00:04:44.400 It is confusing.

00:04:44.860 Look at me.

00:04:44.900 You're in a sweater.

00:04:45.640 I'm dressed to go to WeHo.

00:04:47.700 Yeah.

00:04:48.420 Like, what?

00:04:50.260 It's December.

00:04:51.140 You're always kind of dressed to go to WeHo.

00:04:53.840 Was that a read?

00:04:56.280 Was that a read?

00:04:56.800 Stay ready.

00:04:57.100 You never have to get ready.

00:04:58.020 Okay, T.

00:04:58.500 That's kind of what I'm thinking.

00:04:59.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:00.300 But also, obviously, to be fair, I would be dressed more like you if it wasn't holiday

00:05:05.180 season here.

00:05:06.100 And this is where I got the vibes wrong.

00:05:09.180 I should have showed up in a cardigan.

00:05:11.060 Right.

00:05:11.880 However, once again, LA.

00:05:14.240 Maybe that's the most LA thing.

00:05:15.600 We're in two very different fits.

00:05:17.020 That's so true.

00:05:18.760 That's the most LA fit ever.

00:05:20.120 We are getting to the bottom of things.

00:05:21.500 We are.

00:05:21.920 Right here on the comment section.

00:05:25.260 No, that's very, you're very right, though, about dress code.

00:05:27.700 Especially at the events we go to.

00:05:29.680 Because it's confusing all across the board.

00:05:32.320 I've lost the plot.

00:05:33.380 Yeah.

00:05:33.700 When I bring people to events that aren't in this business, really, they're like, well,

00:05:37.980 what do I wear?

00:05:38.620 And I'm like, honestly, anything.

00:05:40.960 Like, you could wear literally anything.

00:05:42.840 You could be in a ball gown and show up and someone's in just nipple pasties and someone

00:05:46.620 else is in a sweatsuit.

00:05:47.560 It is very confusing.

00:05:48.740 It's so crazy.

00:05:50.040 Yeah.

00:05:50.360 I will show, I will spend hours looking at my closet.

00:05:53.980 Right.

00:05:54.560 Pissed.

00:05:55.520 And then I'll show up.

00:05:56.900 Some other influencer is there in t-shirt and jeans.

00:06:00.940 White t-shirt and jeans.

00:06:03.480 You know, I can't, I can't do that.

00:06:05.220 No.

00:06:05.860 I have to show up looking like I'm going to WeHo.

00:06:08.420 Yeah.

00:06:09.140 I have to.

00:06:09.780 Like, I have to impress everybody.

00:06:10.980 Like, God, it's crazy.

00:06:13.080 You only get one first impression.

00:06:14.540 You really only do get one first impression.

00:06:17.880 You have to make it count out here.

00:06:20.320 My goodness.

00:06:21.640 Try going to a general meeting.

00:06:24.100 Oh, girl.

00:06:25.040 Once again, what do I wear?

00:06:26.400 Yeah, too many fucking things.

00:06:27.800 I'm like, well, I got to wear jeans, but then I also have to wear a nicer top.

00:06:31.320 And what are they wearing?

00:06:32.360 Yeah.

00:06:32.760 They're at work.

00:06:33.700 Girl, sometimes they're in suits and sometimes they're like more casual than I am.

00:06:37.840 It's crazy.

00:06:38.660 I don't even know.

00:06:39.300 I have to strike the middle.

00:06:40.540 And this is why here in America, we need state regulated clothing.

00:06:47.640 Uniforms.

00:06:48.440 Uniforms.

00:06:48.840 You're right.

00:06:49.560 That's where we should.

00:06:50.480 Dress code.

00:06:50.860 Exactly.

00:06:51.540 Yeah.

00:06:51.740 We need general guidelines.

00:06:53.680 I love when people are specific about what they would like you to wear, like, to these events.

00:06:58.980 So they're like color palette or like general theme.

00:07:02.300 Yes.

00:07:02.700 I appreciate a little bit of guidance.

00:07:04.520 Yes.

00:07:04.880 Yeah.

00:07:05.100 But then they get into the different categories.

00:07:09.460 So there's like, there's chic, but then there's cocktail chic.

00:07:13.700 That's true.

00:07:14.860 And then there's cocktail formal.

00:07:16.540 And then there's formal chic.

00:07:18.560 Girl.

00:07:19.320 What does that mean?

00:07:21.420 And I'm going to, what does that mean for a man?

00:07:24.980 Right.

00:07:25.980 Tucked.

00:07:26.300 There's a shirt and a tie and what else?

00:07:29.740 Tucked.

00:07:30.180 What do I wear?

00:07:31.340 That's it.

00:07:31.820 Anyway, I spent $1,000 on a Korean website the other day getting clothes for events.

00:07:37.880 Okay.

00:07:38.720 I got so much clothes.

00:07:41.440 Okay.

00:07:41.680 That's so nice though.

00:07:42.920 Yeah.

00:07:43.140 For $1,000, getting a ton in return for that is awesome.

00:07:46.460 Actually, I got like 20 outfits.

00:07:49.720 Okay.

00:07:50.160 T.

00:07:50.660 Yeah.

00:07:51.060 Look at you.

00:07:51.780 Yeah.

00:07:52.240 I'm excited for you.

00:07:53.200 Thank you.

00:07:53.680 You're always dressed so nice though.

00:07:54.920 True.

00:07:55.960 Yes.

00:07:56.660 That's true.

00:07:57.720 Because we've seen each other at so many events.

00:07:59.560 Oh my God.

00:08:00.060 So many events.

00:08:00.560 You know what's funny is I had a sleepover with Brittany.

00:08:03.160 We both love Brittany.

00:08:04.400 And I wasn't invited.

00:08:06.040 I didn't know you were stateside.

00:08:07.580 Oh yeah.

00:08:08.180 Just kidding.

00:08:09.640 But I was, I honestly was only talking about the panel that we did together.

00:08:14.460 For like most of it.

00:08:18.780 I laughed about that.

00:08:20.800 I still do.

00:08:21.600 I still do now.

00:08:22.900 But this shit you were saying when you were like, I have a question.

00:08:26.800 What's going on?

00:08:29.860 Like we've been at the event for an hour.

00:08:32.580 Yeah.

00:08:33.100 When we were sitting there for an hour and they were talking about a bunch of other shit.

00:08:36.280 And then you go, what are they even talking about?

00:08:40.040 Well, no, because what were they talking about?

00:08:42.580 I still don't know.

00:08:43.420 I still don't have that answer.

00:08:44.720 Sometimes you're like half in the conversation.

00:08:47.180 You're half listening.

00:08:48.200 And then you like tune back in and they're talking about something completely different.

00:08:53.700 The things they were talking about gagged me.

00:08:56.120 Yeah, they were.

00:08:57.400 Why were they saying those things?

00:08:58.500 I don't know.

00:08:59.100 Every five minutes.

00:09:00.140 I tuned back in.

00:09:00.840 I hear them talking about the Great Wall of China.

00:09:02.680 I was like, what did I miss?

00:09:05.700 I only tuned out.

00:09:06.580 And by the way, this panel was not about China.

00:09:08.500 No.

00:09:09.660 Not at all.

00:09:10.300 Not in the slightest.

00:09:11.380 Not even a little bit.

00:09:12.220 And then they were asking us crazy questions.

00:09:15.520 Girl, the question that my sister is still, we still laugh about now.

00:09:19.020 Was it the partying question?

00:09:20.620 Yes.

00:09:21.040 When he says, just doing crack cocaine.

00:09:24.680 This man, this older gentleman, goes up there and asks us, how do you guys party these days?

00:09:33.480 Yeah.

00:09:33.740 What do you do for fun?

00:09:34.960 And then I go, uh, like just generally?

00:09:39.060 And he's like, yeah.

00:09:40.620 I go, well, he goes, like, are you just doing blow in the back room?

00:09:44.280 That's what it was.

00:09:44.960 Doing blow.

00:09:46.500 And I was like, first of all, who's saying yes to that?

00:09:49.240 Also, what do you mean?

00:09:50.020 The 1970s?

00:09:51.540 Doing blow.

00:09:52.680 Crazy.

00:09:53.060 And also, mind you, I'm in a suit.

00:09:57.760 Mind you, I'm in a suit the whole time.

00:10:00.120 Yeah.

00:10:00.500 We're trying to talk about growth on social media.

00:10:03.140 Yeah.

00:10:03.740 Doing blow in that back room.

00:10:05.960 I couldn't, but you know, sometimes you go into an experience like that.

00:10:10.520 Right.

00:10:10.860 And you're like, gosh, I hope I say the right thing.

00:10:14.980 Right.

00:10:15.460 I hope I say the right, I hope I make the room laugh.

00:10:18.000 And then you get there and then the moderator is asking you if everybody's doing blow in the bathroom.

00:10:25.840 How could I prepare for this?

00:10:27.440 No, for real.

00:10:28.140 Like no amount of media training could have equipped me for that.

00:10:31.460 And then I just said, when I party with people, it looks like, you know, in Squid Game when all the rich people get together and they watch all the poor people kill each other.

00:10:39.280 That's what I'd be doing in my free time with other famous people, you know.

00:10:42.840 I just play Mario Party.

00:10:45.700 That's how I have a good time.

00:10:47.080 I know Bowman was answering questions in earnest.

00:10:50.140 So you're like, I guess play Mario Party.

00:10:54.520 What?

00:10:55.200 Well, that's the truth.

00:10:58.920 Although, if you want to talk about partying.

00:11:01.160 Right.

00:11:01.800 I'm new to LA.

00:11:02.880 Right.

00:11:03.500 Drew.

00:11:04.300 Yes.

00:11:05.240 I've been getting into fights.

00:11:08.460 Like no.

00:11:10.060 Altercations?

00:11:10.720 Yes.

00:11:11.660 I've been getting into fights.

00:11:13.940 With whom?

00:11:15.200 With the locals.

00:11:17.080 With the Americans.

00:11:19.040 I've been getting into fights because people are, you know what?

00:11:22.940 Listen, I had my day back in Toronto.

00:11:25.540 Right.

00:11:25.960 And I still live in Toronto.

00:11:26.920 I still go back and forth.

00:11:27.940 Yeah.

00:11:28.240 Yeah.

00:11:28.700 I've gone out a lot in Toronto.

00:11:31.420 And that, you build tough, like thick skin.

00:11:33.960 Right.

00:11:34.360 Doing that.

00:11:34.540 I've heard that about Toronto specifically.

00:11:37.220 But they can be mean.

00:11:38.100 Yes.

00:11:38.520 Yeah.

00:11:38.960 But coming here, this is a whole other ball game.

00:11:43.780 You think?

00:11:44.640 Oh my gosh.

00:11:45.700 Can I tell you the story?

00:11:46.420 Please do.

00:11:47.440 Okay.

00:11:49.240 Okay.

00:11:49.640 So, now, if you were there with me on this night, if you're watching this, I want you

00:11:57.680 to know, like, I love you.

00:11:59.660 Like, don't worry.

00:12:01.400 I don't want to be, I'm not trying to be shady or anything, but this is my truth.

00:12:06.220 Right.

00:12:06.480 And it's important to stand in your truth.

00:12:08.480 Yes, it is.

00:12:09.140 And I will validate it for you.

00:12:09.840 And talk about your truth on the comment section.

00:12:11.720 On the comment section, exactly.

00:12:13.140 Okay.

00:12:14.180 So, I go out with my good friend.

00:12:17.420 Okay.

00:12:17.720 Okay?

00:12:18.700 My friend says, we're going to go out to the bar, and my work friend is going to be

00:12:25.500 there.

00:12:25.640 We're going to meet him.

00:12:26.300 Okay.

00:12:26.740 I was like, okay, sure.

00:12:27.820 Yeah.

00:12:28.040 So, I go, I meet the work friend.

00:12:29.600 Okay.

00:12:31.800 I don't think the work friend liked me very much.

00:12:34.100 Uh-oh.

00:12:34.600 I don't know why.

00:12:35.500 Right off the bat, I couldn't really.

00:12:37.920 Weird vibe.

00:12:38.600 I understand the vibe.

00:12:39.880 Okay.

00:12:40.400 Okay.

00:12:41.240 So, now picture this.

00:12:42.980 We're at this bar.

00:12:45.080 My friend is here.

00:12:46.180 Uh-huh.

00:12:46.700 The work friend is here, whom I do not know.

00:12:49.160 You're right.

00:12:49.800 Okay?

00:12:50.160 Okay.

00:12:51.780 The work friend is telling me that about his job.

00:12:54.860 Okay.

00:12:55.220 He's telling the crowd about his job.

00:12:58.440 And he's really, his job involves, like, math and data and numbers.

00:13:03.460 Now, here's where I go wrong.

00:13:05.380 Now, here's where I go wrong.

00:13:08.400 So, he says, and I didn't mean it this way.

00:13:10.760 Right, right.

00:13:11.180 But he goes, yeah.

00:13:12.760 Yeah.

00:13:13.100 My job is about math and numbers.

00:13:15.900 I'm brains and beauty.

00:13:19.840 And I said, I said, well, you're definitely brains.

00:13:24.820 Now, now, okay.

00:13:27.420 Now, listen.

00:13:29.560 Now, hold on.

00:13:31.520 Here's what I.

00:13:32.040 And I didn't mean it that way.

00:13:34.720 Here's what I meant.

00:13:35.840 Right.

00:13:36.640 I meant to say, wow, you must be a genius.

00:13:42.320 That's what I meant.

00:13:43.380 Is that nicer?

00:13:43.580 That's what I meant to say, wow, like, you must be a genius.

00:13:48.700 However, the way it came out sounded shady.

00:13:51.860 So, let's go.

00:13:52.860 So, now, let's go back.

00:13:53.820 I said, well, you're definitely brains.

00:13:58.460 Right.

00:13:59.900 Okay.

00:14:00.580 Okay.

00:14:01.300 And he was offended.

00:14:03.560 And honestly, rightfully so.

00:14:05.540 As I'm recounting it, that kind of makes sense.

00:14:08.480 That was kind of rude.

00:14:09.800 Right.

00:14:10.240 So, but I realize that in the moment.

00:14:12.400 Yeah.

00:14:13.020 Okay.

00:14:13.440 I would have laughed.

00:14:14.980 Even if I just met you, I would have laughed.

00:14:16.300 Like, if I said that to your face?

00:14:17.280 Yeah, I would have laughed.

00:14:17.980 Right.

00:14:18.180 Because, like.

00:14:19.100 And I would have threw shade back because that's the culture.

00:14:21.340 Because that's the culture.

00:14:22.460 Right.

00:14:22.720 And it's fun.

00:14:23.340 And I like how your correction was that it was actually funnier the other thing you wanted to say.

00:14:27.500 Yeah.

00:14:27.680 I just want to get that out there.

00:14:28.860 Yeah.

00:14:29.480 I say that.

00:14:30.360 And then he does not let it go.

00:14:32.200 He goes, oh, well, I'm just hideous then.

00:14:34.160 Oh, great.

00:14:34.720 No, I'm just so ugly.

00:14:36.020 Oh, I'm just.

00:14:36.940 I'm just.

00:14:37.360 I'm smart, but I'm not.

00:14:40.240 He goes on and on and on.

00:14:42.640 Now, imagine you're me.

00:14:43.980 Right.

00:14:45.260 You're like, okay, I don't know you like that.

00:14:49.080 So, I just, like, shut down.

00:14:52.180 I shut out.

00:14:53.020 Whatever.

00:14:53.380 I'm, like, over it.

00:14:55.060 And now I'm standing there quietly.

00:14:56.480 Yeah.

00:14:57.220 So, then later on in that same conversation, he asks me my name again.

00:15:02.440 He goes, what was your name again?

00:15:04.520 And now I'm already, like, I don't really like you, but, like, whatever.

00:15:08.040 He goes, what was your name again, by the way?

00:15:10.720 I said, Bowman.

00:15:12.460 He goes, what?

00:15:14.360 Huh?

00:15:16.000 I go, we're at a loud club.

00:15:18.580 He's heard everything I've said up until this point.

00:15:20.780 Oh, you heard, so you heard me call you ugly from a distance, but you didn't hear me say

00:15:24.300 my name.

00:15:25.020 Right.

00:15:25.440 Okay.

00:15:26.100 He goes, what?

00:15:27.500 What?

00:15:28.460 Your name, what?

00:15:29.400 I go, Bowman.

00:15:30.840 He goes, what?

00:15:32.040 I said, fix your face.

00:15:34.360 My name is Bowman.

00:15:38.540 He goes, okay, don't tell me to fix my face.

00:15:42.300 I said, well, don't make your face ugly when I'm telling you my name.

00:15:49.600 We did not get off on the right foot.

00:15:52.700 Okay?

00:15:53.480 We did not get off on the right foot.

00:15:55.700 Right.

00:15:56.260 There's more.

00:15:57.020 Oh, my God.

00:15:58.860 So then I go to somebody else.

00:16:00.460 I'm talking to friends, whatever.

00:16:01.740 This other person pisses me off because I had just gotten my hair done that day.

00:16:06.660 And this person comes up to me and goes, Bowman, oh, I was going to say I like your bob, but

00:16:11.540 I guess it's not a bob, is it?

00:16:13.340 Eh, it's kind of giving bob.

00:16:15.580 Okay.

00:16:17.100 Okay.

00:16:18.940 Okay.

00:16:19.680 Oh, my God.

00:16:21.060 Right.

00:16:22.160 Whatever happened to, hello?

00:16:23.980 Hi, hello, how are you?

00:16:24.620 How are you?

00:16:25.780 My name is.

00:16:27.720 Like, oh, my God.

00:16:29.120 I guess it's not a bob, is it?

00:16:31.640 You want to call me a slur.

00:16:33.240 Like, that's what I'm saying.

00:16:35.660 You want to call me a slur.

00:16:36.920 I can sense it.

00:16:37.940 So then I go over to my friend and the work friend and I go, someone just made fun of my

00:16:43.680 hair to my face.

00:16:44.640 It pissed me off.

00:16:45.540 Yeah.

00:16:46.200 And he goes, what did he say?

00:16:48.100 I said, he told me my hair looks like a bob.

00:16:50.400 The work friend starts laughing in my face.

00:16:52.960 He goes, oh, my God.

00:16:54.540 It is kind of giving bob, though, isn't it?

00:16:57.880 Oh, my God.

00:16:58.860 Literally.

00:17:00.000 He goes, it's kind of giving bob.

00:17:01.980 I said, well, a bob is better than whatever pixie wig with baby bangs you've got going on.

00:17:09.820 And if I'm the friend, your close friend, I'm like, oh.

00:17:13.420 And then somebody passes him a drink.

00:17:17.460 Somebody passes him a drink and he goes, well, why don't you like walk your bob over there?

00:17:21.600 Is your bob thirsty, by the way?

00:17:23.280 And motions to pour the drink over my head.

00:17:26.560 Oh, my God.

00:17:28.040 This was after the ugly thing?

00:17:31.320 Yeah.

00:17:31.820 Damn.

00:17:32.320 You really rattled his cage.

00:17:34.100 He knows he's ugly.

00:17:35.260 I'm fighting hoes in the street.

00:17:39.520 Left and right.

00:17:40.600 That is awful.

00:17:42.120 That's terrible.

00:17:42.820 Yeah.

00:17:43.060 I'm finding my business.

00:17:44.560 No, terrible vibes.

00:17:45.540 Smiling a normal Canadian.

00:17:49.020 Like, is it that serious?

00:17:50.860 You have to fight me?

00:17:51.820 White gaze.

00:17:52.640 Now, I started it, but.

00:17:55.680 Unintentionally.

00:17:56.220 Well, kind of intentionally, but unintentionally, because he was already kind of, the vibes were off.

00:18:01.500 The vibes were off.

00:18:02.480 Yeah.

00:18:02.620 And if you're like, I feel like you're a lot like me, with me, it's like, it's really not hard to get along with me.

00:18:09.200 Like, I feel like I'm really good at getting along with a lot of people.

00:18:11.860 So, like, what are the odds that you just genuinely don't like me already and we just met?

00:18:16.220 I'm not trying.

00:18:17.220 Listen.

00:18:18.600 Like, I'm trying to have everybody win.

00:18:21.100 Right.

00:18:21.520 Same.

00:18:21.860 Like, I feel like, whatever.

00:18:23.440 Like, it's not that serious.

00:18:25.300 Yeah.

00:18:25.740 Hello.

00:18:26.600 Like, I don't know.

00:18:27.880 I completely agree.

00:18:28.780 I'm easy to get along with, despite the story I just told.

00:18:33.560 I'm actually very easy to get along with and a nice guy.

00:18:37.240 No, you are.

00:18:38.320 You are very nice.

00:18:39.180 I can confirm.

00:18:40.160 You are mean as fuck, but like me.

00:18:43.120 But like me.

00:18:44.520 Which is, like, used for good and funny.

00:18:47.680 Exactly.

00:18:48.300 And honestly, like, I talk about you all the time where I'm like, Bowman is one of the funniest people, like, I've ever met.

00:18:55.260 Thank you.

00:18:55.600 And I told you this when we were at that insane panel.

00:18:59.560 But like, when we were at Elton John together, there was a joke that you made to me.

00:19:03.900 And when I read, I can't even say it.

00:19:05.600 I wish I could, but I can't.

00:19:07.040 And when I recounted it to you at this dinner that we were at, you go, I said that?

00:19:11.700 And then I go, right.

00:19:13.080 And then you go, I go, yes.

00:19:15.100 And then you go, like, in earnest?

00:19:17.780 And then I go, no, girl.

00:19:19.300 Listen to it again.

00:19:20.460 And I said it again in a different tone.

00:19:22.500 And you're all, oh, yeah, yeah.

00:19:23.900 Okay, that's how I said it.

00:19:25.320 I said it again.

00:19:26.280 I said it.

00:19:27.500 I love whenever we get together because I love making you laugh.

00:19:32.200 Like, I just, there's something, it just feels good.

00:19:35.660 Yeah.

00:19:35.900 The laugh is earned.

00:19:37.140 Yeah.

00:19:37.740 With you.

00:19:38.740 It's a genuine laugh, too.

00:19:40.340 Yeah.

00:19:40.720 And I think that's why, like, my fake laugh is, like, I call it my customer service laugh, but it sounds really, like, white.

00:19:48.280 Like, my fake laugh.

00:19:49.500 I think when you have, like, a real, like, recognizably earned laugh, your fake laugh is so hard to sell to people.

00:19:58.680 Right?

00:19:59.300 Like, Teffy all the time will catch me every time I do a fake laugh.

00:20:03.540 Like, and it pisses me off.

00:20:06.040 I'm like, not everything you say is funny.

00:20:09.280 Oh, sorry.

00:20:10.360 Like, God, they can't all be bangers.

00:20:13.660 They can't all be tense.

00:20:14.480 I'm trying my best.

00:20:15.580 No, I really genuinely think you're one of the funniest people I've ever met.

00:20:22.060 Thank you.

00:20:22.660 Like, and I was, my sister and I were reenacting this when we were at the royal court party together for Brittany.

00:20:28.980 I actually can't remember what I said to you.

00:20:31.280 That was so funny.

00:20:32.580 Oh, at the thing?

00:20:33.420 Well, I'll have Amanda bleep it, but you said,

00:20:35.720 Oh, of course.

00:20:40.240 Because I said, do you know, and you said, of course.

00:20:45.580 You said, of course I do.

00:20:47.880 And when I said that to you, you went, I said that?

00:20:51.320 And then when I repeated it, I said, no, listen again.

00:20:53.880 It wasn't like, of course.

00:20:55.960 Of course I do.

00:20:57.560 Maybe I am a bitch.

00:20:59.160 Oh my, wait, maybe I am that gay.

00:21:02.280 It's okay.

00:21:02.800 I'm a bitch too, Loki.

00:21:04.060 It's fun though.

00:21:05.120 Well, also, I think shit like that is so funny to me.

00:21:08.980 Like, when you're just being bantery, witty.

00:21:12.200 Also, I think that's why I get along with gay people really well.

00:21:14.820 Yeah.

00:21:15.380 Because I fuck with that vibe.

00:21:16.660 Yeah.

00:21:17.240 Also, like, talking shit is fun.

00:21:19.120 Yeah, like, let's.

00:21:20.780 Like, let's.

00:21:21.820 Like, that's what we're supposed to do.

00:21:23.320 Right.

00:21:23.640 Like, nothing's worse than somebody that's like, oh, I don't gossip.

00:21:29.400 Have some class.

00:21:31.360 Open your mouth and start gossiping.

00:21:34.020 Well, guess what?

00:21:34.560 Now.

00:21:35.060 No friend in me.

00:21:36.120 That's what you won't find.

00:21:37.000 Nope.

00:21:37.300 We have no community here.

00:21:39.060 I don't like you if you don't gossip with me now.

00:21:43.460 I feel like that too when I meet other creators that I really vibe with and stuff.

00:21:48.300 I was, like, comparing it once to, like, becoming blood brothers.

00:21:51.540 Like, if they share something with me, I'll share something with you and let's key together.

00:21:55.440 Let's talk about it.

00:21:56.480 Yeah.

00:21:56.620 It's like, it's, it's one of the few pleasures we have in this industry.

00:22:01.000 Exactly.

00:22:01.640 Like, of, like, the talking aspect of it.

00:22:03.860 And we're all talking.

00:22:05.120 Yes.

00:22:06.000 You gotta talk.

00:22:06.800 I don't know.

00:22:07.260 And also, like, we, I don't have co-workers.

00:22:09.200 Like, I don't have, like, co-workers to, like, gather around and, like, talk shit with.

00:22:14.460 Right.

00:22:15.380 These are our co-workers we have to talk about.

00:22:17.620 Like, these weirdos on the internet.

00:22:19.360 That's why I said that we're literally, like, colleagues, all of us.

00:22:22.300 Yes.

00:22:22.660 And we all like to talk shit.

00:22:24.780 Shit.

00:22:25.540 It's no fun when you don't talk shit.

00:22:27.320 No.

00:22:27.800 We have to.

00:22:28.700 We have to.

00:22:29.540 We must.

00:22:30.760 Have you been to anything cool since you've moved to L.A.?

00:22:33.560 Or what do you like about living here?

00:22:35.820 Oh.

00:22:37.120 Anything.

00:22:37.680 Well, I don't want to be that girl and talk about the weather.

00:22:41.180 However.

00:22:41.760 You can.

00:22:42.400 It's December and I'm in a t-shirt and pants.

00:22:46.400 That is so wonderful, especially because I'm seeing all my friends in the snow.

00:22:52.700 Yeah, no.

00:22:53.460 Oh, my God.

00:22:54.940 Like, it's actually crazy.

00:22:57.440 If you're from Toronto, you get it.

00:22:59.500 It's like, we will have 30 days straight of overcast.

00:23:04.560 It's like, nobody talks about it, but it's like London in that way.

00:23:07.720 Oh, yeah.

00:23:08.420 Where it's like, it's just, like, gray.

00:23:10.140 Yeah, all the time.

00:23:11.260 Especially in the winter.

00:23:12.180 Oh.

00:23:13.040 And that can really.

00:23:14.560 I hate that.

00:23:15.280 Seasonal depression is so real.

00:23:17.120 Yeah.

00:23:17.500 And then especially, like, as a creative that has to, like, take initiative and not procrastinate and feel inspired every day.

00:23:24.420 Literally.

00:23:25.380 I can't.

00:23:26.180 I can't do it.

00:23:27.140 And I feel so empowered here to just, like, get up and make things and, like, feel good.

00:23:33.900 But it's true, though, too.

00:23:35.020 Like, the weather has such a significant impact, especially when you work from home 24-7.

00:23:40.500 Yes.

00:23:40.680 Like, when you're always home and you, like, you can, like, you don't leave your house for multiple days on end.

00:23:45.260 Yeah.

00:23:45.460 Like, it can turn into a black hole pretty quickly.

00:23:48.460 Yes.

00:23:48.840 If you combine terrible weather with it.

00:23:50.580 Oh, my God.

00:23:51.320 I know.

00:23:51.700 It's horrible.

00:23:52.260 So, I'm enjoying that aspect of it.

00:23:54.360 It's like, it feels like it saved my life.

00:23:56.800 Oh, my God.

00:23:57.200 I'm so glad.

00:23:58.260 Yeah.

00:23:58.560 It's been wonderful.

00:23:59.720 What's been the, what was the trigger for you to finally move over here?

00:24:02.420 Because remember last time we talked to you, you said, well, maybe, maybe I'll move over there.

00:24:05.580 Well, my relationship was one thing.

00:24:10.660 And also work.

00:24:12.540 Like, that was, I think that, like, work was always the thing.

00:24:16.040 But then I also, like, had a boyfriend that yanked me over here.

00:24:18.980 Yeah.

00:24:20.380 But I want to work in this business.

00:24:24.520 Yeah.

00:24:25.180 And I wasn't really working much anymore in Toronto.

00:24:28.360 Like, there's only so much you can do in Canada.

00:24:30.880 Yeah.

00:24:31.500 Love Canada.

00:24:32.320 We'll still work in Canada.

00:24:35.580 But, yeah, like, I feel like here I'm busy.

00:24:39.180 Like, I have events or I have, like, things to film or there's a set day.

00:24:43.160 Like, there's always something going on to do here.

00:24:46.520 Yeah.

00:24:47.160 And there's a lot of, like, like-minded people.

00:24:49.540 Yeah.

00:24:49.940 A lot of friends in my industry, which is something that I didn't have in Canada.

00:24:54.000 Yeah.

00:24:54.900 It makes things easier in that way, too.

00:24:57.240 Yes.

00:24:57.540 Especially having friends in the industry.

00:24:59.620 Like, you were saying, like, we don't have coworkers.

00:25:02.060 Those are our coworkers.

00:25:02.980 Exactly.

00:25:03.180 That's so real.

00:25:03.900 Yeah.

00:25:04.080 And it's, like, it feels better.

00:25:05.880 Like, you feel more, like, validated in your experiences as, like, a creator and stuff.

00:25:10.940 Like, I always tell people, like, please make friends.

00:25:14.000 Like, as soon as they blow up, I'm, like, make other friends in the industry.

00:25:17.100 I know.

00:25:17.260 Like, be nice to people.

00:25:18.480 I know.

00:25:19.000 And that way you can-

00:25:19.960 Because, like, no one can relate to your problems anymore once you start doing this.

00:25:23.580 And you just sound like a prick when you're, like, God, I'm so exhausted.

00:25:26.920 I have to film, like, three brand deals today.

00:25:28.960 I know.

00:25:29.280 Like, you just sound like the biggest asshole because everybody has real jobs and we have

00:25:32.980 this fake one.

00:25:33.860 Yes.

00:25:34.260 So, like-

00:25:34.920 But this fake job does have problems that are annoying.

00:25:37.820 Oh, girl.

00:25:38.320 So-

00:25:38.620 They have-

00:25:39.000 It has the most soul-sucking, awful problems I could have never predicted.

00:25:43.680 They're stupid.

00:25:44.360 Yeah.

00:25:44.880 It's really stupid problems.

00:25:46.880 Yeah, they are.

00:25:47.660 But it's nice to, like, talk to people and, like, I don't know, make friends that are

00:25:52.040 also going through similar things.

00:25:53.860 Yeah, seriously.

00:25:54.840 It feels very validating.

00:25:56.440 Oh, my God, yeah.

00:25:57.200 Like, when you-

00:25:57.500 Especially when you want to-

00:25:58.460 You're, like, can I-

00:25:59.640 I just want to talk shit about something really quick.

00:26:01.760 No.

00:26:02.140 And then I'm going to get off my high horse and we won't talk about it anymore.

00:26:05.340 Exactly.

00:26:05.900 Like, having group chats with your girls so you could talk shit about stuff like that.

00:26:09.640 Yes.

00:26:10.080 Essential.

00:26:10.780 Oh, my God.

00:26:12.500 It's so essential.

00:26:13.980 The friends have-

00:26:14.760 That has been, like, a really, really wonderful part of living here.

00:26:17.060 Oh, I love that.

00:26:18.300 Making friends is weird here.

00:26:20.620 Yeah.

00:26:21.540 Making friends-

00:26:22.100 It's real hit or miss.

00:26:22.800 Is weird.

00:26:23.740 Especially in those influencer spaces.

00:26:26.240 Like-

00:26:26.620 People are weird.

00:26:27.940 They're strange in there.

00:26:29.120 Well, when everybody in the space is told they're a main character-

00:26:33.320 Right.

00:26:34.060 It's, like, so hard to just be normal.

00:26:37.040 Right, yeah.

00:26:37.820 Like, let's all get together and be normal challenge.

00:26:40.520 I agree.

00:26:42.340 And they don't know how to play the game.

00:26:44.280 Not at all.

00:26:45.300 And there are very few rules.

00:26:47.860 Yeah, and it feels-

00:26:49.360 It's honestly kind of ironic.

00:26:50.500 Because we went to, like, Elton John at the same-

00:26:52.500 Right, we've been in similar spaces like that.

00:26:54.460 And then there's, like, influencer spaces, right?

00:26:56.280 Yes.

00:26:56.720 They're very different vibes.

00:26:57.920 Oh, my God.

00:26:58.300 So different.

00:26:58.820 Like, I feel like when you're in that traditional celebrity realm, like, it's not as weird.

00:27:04.420 It's strange in a way if you're alone, but, like, it's not as weird as the influencer space.

00:27:08.640 I feel like that's-

00:27:09.480 The heaviness is different.

00:27:11.180 Yes.

00:27:11.640 Because in the celebrity one, it feels like they don't want to be recorded or, like, no one's worried about phones or anything.

00:27:16.780 So it's almost like they're taking off their masks and acting normal.

00:27:19.240 Yes.

00:27:19.600 Whereas in influencer spaces, it's the opposite.

00:27:21.620 Yeah.

00:27:21.800 It feels like they need to put something on to blend.

00:27:23.820 It feels like they-

00:27:25.260 Everybody has something to prove.

00:27:26.660 Yeah, exactly.

00:27:27.420 And everybody has something to, like-

00:27:28.920 Like, it's like there's a lot of sizing you up.

00:27:31.020 Right.

00:27:31.480 And even not in influencer spaces, even, like, in just, like, going to the bar or, like, you go to tenants or something and it's, like, you are constantly, like, I'm not used to, as a Canadian, being asked about my job all the time.

00:27:48.940 Right.

00:27:49.040 Like, that's-

00:27:49.400 We don't talk about that.

00:27:50.660 Yeah.

00:27:50.800 You don't go out and somebody's like, so what do you do?

00:27:53.240 Yeah.

00:27:53.540 And then also having to, like, give your log line of what you do every time you go out is, like, I'm not used to it.

00:28:01.840 Really?

00:28:02.560 Yeah.

00:28:02.860 Like, I don't talk about my job ever back home.

00:28:05.460 Yeah.

00:28:05.640 Ever.

00:28:06.160 Yeah.

00:28:06.520 And so this is such a weird-

00:28:09.220 Like, different space.

00:28:10.340 Cultural change.

00:28:11.320 Yeah.

00:28:11.740 Like, and especially when you're in, like, Hollywood, West Hollywood, anything, like, where everyone's kind of doing, for the most part, like, show business-y things.

00:28:20.580 Yes.

00:28:20.860 Like, whether it's in front or behind the camera.

00:28:23.180 Yeah.

00:28:23.540 So it's, like, everybody knows.

00:28:25.480 Like, they- it's almost like that's why they want to ask.

00:28:27.360 Because they want to know what's- what your deal is.

00:28:29.600 Yeah.

00:28:30.080 What's your deal?

00:28:30.840 Especially if you get recognized in a place like that.

00:28:33.000 And also, like, normalize just asking, what's your deal?

00:28:36.800 So what's your deal?

00:28:37.700 Like, I'd rather they just say, so what's your deal?

00:28:40.420 Like, that feels a little bit like, okay, let's get to the point.

00:28:43.580 Yeah.

00:28:44.420 All right.

00:28:45.280 But instead, it's like-

00:28:46.640 It's the pussyfooting around, that kind of thing.

00:28:48.680 Pussyfooting is a crazy thing to say, but yes.

00:28:52.280 I've never heard that.

00:28:54.000 Really?

00:28:54.620 No.

00:28:55.480 Is that like an old man saying?

00:28:57.100 Maybe.

00:28:57.740 An American one, clearly.

00:28:59.400 I'm trying to- I'm trying to pussyfoot.

00:29:02.140 Let's go pussyfooting.

00:29:03.440 Y'all ever pussyfoot?

00:29:04.500 Let me know.

00:29:05.380 Put your best pussyfoot forward.

00:29:07.220 Right here on the comment section.

00:29:10.320 Put your pussyfoots in the air.

00:29:11.760 Let me see them.

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00:29:45.120 I get what you mean though.

00:29:46.280 Yeah.

00:29:46.420 The vibe can be, like I went to an event that was for,

00:29:52.440 like it was like a big fancy one.

00:29:55.280 I'm trying to be nondescript about it.

00:29:57.380 But it was like a lot of famous people in there.

00:29:59.480 Okay.

00:29:59.840 And there were a lot of speeches being given,

00:30:01.600 but it was a very exclusive thing.

00:30:03.320 So like there wasn't many like people outside of that brand,

00:30:08.680 about that industry, whatever, and like some A-list talent.

00:30:12.180 Like that was, and then what the fuck was I there?

00:30:14.100 A girl I don't know.

00:30:15.260 Right.

00:30:15.420 So we're sitting there and it was like listening to them

00:30:18.280 give speeches about things like how tough the world can be.

00:30:23.980 Mind you, you're hearing from people who have been famous

00:30:26.120 for probably at this point 30 years.

00:30:28.480 So like when I hear shit like that.

00:30:30.380 Well, they're on the come up.

00:30:31.320 Yeah.

00:30:32.000 Hopefully you make it one day.

00:30:33.180 Hopefully.

00:30:33.740 I'm hoping for your big break.

00:30:35.060 I really do think I'm like, this is so strange

00:30:38.440 because I don't see the world that way.

00:30:41.920 I think because I was.

00:30:43.100 What were they saying?

00:30:44.100 Like they were saying that like, like times are tough.

00:30:46.740 Yes.

00:30:46.960 Or like the industry is hard.

00:30:48.540 It was like both.

00:30:49.680 But it was like a, you know, I know things are tough right now.

00:30:54.520 Right now.

00:30:56.160 They've been tough for a while.

00:30:57.220 These last few weeks.

00:30:58.380 Yeah.

00:30:58.640 I've been quite abnormally tough.

00:31:00.480 Yeah.

00:31:00.920 Ever since November of last year.

00:31:03.360 Like it was one of those where I'm like, did you just tune in?

00:31:07.060 But it feels like that disconnect.

00:31:08.720 And I think that's a, another thing why I'm like, I never entertain the conversation of

00:31:13.840 like influencers should not be mixing with like Hollywood celebrity, whatever the fuck.

00:31:18.100 I never entertain that conversation because I think it's stupid, but also I think it's

00:31:22.000 elitist in a lot of ways.

00:31:23.700 And I talked to, like, I answered that question on a carpet once where they were like, what

00:31:27.040 do you think about celebrities that don't like influencers coming in their spaces anymore?

00:31:31.640 And I was like, I think that I find it really ironic considering the entirety of Hollywood

00:31:36.580 is built on the shoulders of nepotism.

00:31:38.220 I think it's really ironic that you don't like that I'm here when I found a way here

00:31:43.220 and you have a famous dad.

00:31:45.180 I don't.

00:31:46.000 So I kind of had to tell wiener jokes for a while till it hit.

00:31:48.580 You know what I mean?

00:31:49.180 Yes.

00:31:49.600 Yeah.

00:31:50.060 This has been pissing me off.

00:31:52.320 It's true.

00:31:53.080 Because it's like, for example, the Victoria's Secret fashion show.

00:31:55.680 Right.

00:31:56.260 It's like you have people walking the fashion show that are not models.

00:32:01.540 Right.

00:32:02.080 And then everybody are not like typical what the, yes.

00:32:05.640 Yeah.

00:32:06.220 Industry standard model.

00:32:07.640 Yes.

00:32:07.940 Yeah.

00:32:08.220 But then you have people outside of that world.

00:32:12.320 Realm entirely.

00:32:13.360 Yes.

00:32:13.960 Just viewers.

00:32:15.020 Yeah.

00:32:15.760 That are policing who is allowed to be in that space.

00:32:19.340 Yeah.

00:32:19.680 Who is a model.

00:32:20.840 But it's like, why do you, there's a reason you think the way that you think.

00:32:24.900 Right.

00:32:25.040 You are conditioned to believe in what a model is supposed to look like.

00:32:29.000 Period.

00:32:29.320 How tall a model or how skinny a model is supposed to be.

00:32:32.320 Right.

00:32:32.600 Like, why, why can't this beautiful athlete walk in a fashion show?

00:32:38.200 I agree.

00:32:38.920 Like, it is so ridiculous.

00:32:40.240 Or I saw that lady.

00:32:41.300 I forget her name.

00:32:42.720 But does it matter?

00:32:43.760 Or she was, she's on some podcast talking about how like, oh, well now the fashion scene

00:32:48.700 is overrun by influencers.

00:32:50.480 Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

00:32:52.560 Oh my.

00:32:53.180 And but that, but it's like that with every industry.

00:32:56.340 Right.

00:32:56.480 First of all, if you are sitting here being like, back in my day, we had to work for it.

00:33:01.380 I feel bad for you.

00:33:02.540 Yeah.

00:33:02.780 Because also back in your day, there was a lot of other things they didn't let happen either.

00:33:06.800 There was a thing or two.

00:33:08.620 There's quite a few things they were turning a blind eye to back in your day.

00:33:12.180 So I think you have bigger problems to address.

00:33:14.120 But yeah, I agree.

00:33:14.880 Also like, the idea that somebody turned on their camera and found a way to make something

00:33:19.400 work for themselves, found a way to make, push themselves forward in their career.

00:33:25.400 Right.

00:33:25.820 In a world where like they did not have any other tool to do so.

00:33:29.340 Hello.

00:33:29.620 And then it's like, oh, we're going to shame those people, gatekeep those spaces, and tell

00:33:34.680 them that they're not supposed to be there.

00:33:36.240 Right.

00:33:36.640 Like it is so, it's just, also the idea that like any influencer, any, any influencer wants

00:33:44.440 to stay doing what they're doing and does not want to progress in their career at all.

00:33:51.220 Do you seriously think, you know what?

00:33:56.220 Like I love what I do.

00:33:58.140 Right.

00:33:58.440 I love what I do.

00:33:59.940 I love that I get to make people laugh.

00:34:02.240 I love that I get to be stupid on the internet.

00:34:05.960 Right.

00:34:06.780 But I want to do more.

00:34:08.100 I agree.

00:34:08.700 And I, I hate the day that like I book a role or something and then it's like, like I wasn't

00:34:14.280 overcompensating.

00:34:15.120 Yes.

00:34:15.560 Thank God.

00:34:17.080 Yes.

00:34:17.720 But then it's like, you have comments of people being like, not an influencer.

00:34:21.740 Oh, they're casting influencers on TV shows.

00:34:24.640 Or artists.

00:34:25.500 Or sexy, talented, handsome, really nice, such as myself.

00:34:31.800 Really nice, funny guys.

00:34:33.720 Really nice, fun guys.

00:34:34.500 Yeah.

00:34:35.180 Oh, it's illegal.

00:34:36.120 Like what happened to that?

00:34:37.080 No, I, and I, I don't know.

00:34:38.180 It's crazy.

00:34:38.680 It's so crazy.

00:34:39.340 I definitely agree with you too, because I've, I've answered this question before and I'm

00:34:43.220 like, I think maybe you should give people like us more credit that maybe me telling wiener

00:34:49.220 jokes was not what I wanted to do my entire life.

00:34:51.500 Like give me a little bit of fucking credit that maybe I had other dreams and aspirations.

00:34:55.380 Like sometimes, like I've said this about Britney, I said it about Benito, I said it about Caleb,

00:35:00.300 you too.

00:35:00.960 It's literally like, sometimes you're looking at influencers and sometimes you're looking

00:35:06.080 at artists who happen to become influencers.

00:35:08.760 Like they just so happen to be funny.

00:35:10.820 Like there are people like, like Britney who has that beautiful voice, right?

00:35:14.640 She just so happens to be funny, but she's actually an artist.

00:35:17.360 And that's how like Benito is the same way.

00:35:19.140 And I feel like that about us too.

00:35:20.500 It's like, maybe there are other things that I'm really good at and interested in, and maybe

00:35:24.680 this is what hit for me and I'm using it to open another door for myself.

00:35:28.920 In fact, I would, I would find that far more impressive than just having the right family

00:35:33.960 and then being like, I think I want to act and then going and getting put in something.

00:35:37.660 Like, I think like, I'm not knocking your tea.

00:35:40.100 Yes.

00:35:40.480 That's why I was like, I, I mean, like I genuinely do.

00:35:42.700 I think it's the coolest thing in the world.

00:35:44.200 No, but like use what you got.

00:35:45.860 I don't give a fuck.

00:35:46.620 Like if you got it, do it and then prove it, like prove you're good at it.

00:35:49.860 And then I think it's fine.

00:35:50.740 Yeah.

00:35:51.200 What gives a shit?

00:35:52.080 When Nepo babies cry about being like, I just don't want to be considered.

00:35:56.100 First of all, there are real problems in the world.

00:35:58.020 So let's talk about that.

00:35:58.820 I would love to be a Nepo baby.

00:36:00.760 Well, also.

00:36:01.480 Oh my God.

00:36:01.980 If I was a Nepo baby, you bet your ass I'd be making a whole bunch of jokes about that

00:36:06.100 shit.

00:36:06.520 Oh my God.

00:36:07.140 I'd be like, and do you have any idea who my dad is?

00:36:10.500 My, my dad, there's a reason my last name is Quaker Oats.

00:36:16.100 Like I, and I'll be annoying about it.

00:36:18.320 My father, the inventor of toaster strudel will be hearing about this.

00:36:23.400 That's why I'm like, I don't think there's any harm in it.

00:36:26.280 And I think that like, even when I answer questions like that, I've said before that I think they

00:36:31.340 should just get comfy and scooch on over bitch.

00:36:34.620 That's what I think you should do.

00:36:35.840 Cause that's what I would do.

00:36:36.920 And I think, and I've said to you, and I was like, and this is me getting super woke leftist,

00:36:41.740 but the internet has given avenues to people like us who are disenfranchised already and

00:36:48.040 otherwise would never be looked at.

00:36:49.900 Like, that's just a fact.

00:36:51.120 So like I said that when I did something with Forbes and I was saying like the reality of,

00:36:55.780 for me getting signed and actually doing like bigger things outside of just TikTok videos,

00:37:00.460 like when I was just posting them at home for fun, is that like, I didn't, nobody just like

00:37:06.080 suddenly was like, actually, I think there's something there.

00:37:09.460 Yeah.

00:37:09.560 Like one person believed in me for real, that, that had the power to sign me and everything.

00:37:14.160 But past that, like, I just got too big to ignore.

00:37:17.320 Like, that's what really happened.

00:37:18.800 What actually happened was like, they couldn't ignore me anymore because I was just getting

00:37:22.660 that big.

00:37:23.200 And that's like, that's something that doesn't come with like connection.

00:37:26.800 It comes with, well, connection only to like fans.

00:37:29.860 Yeah.

00:37:30.120 And also now I'm sure you've seen, there's like this huge shift in like mainstream A-list talent

00:37:36.300 now making videos to try and be relatable.

00:37:38.920 Now they're on TikTok.

00:37:40.200 Them trying to vlog.

00:37:42.020 It's.

00:37:42.840 I love it.

00:37:44.560 I love watching it.

00:37:46.500 Them being like, this is, they're going to feel so relatable to me.

00:37:50.060 Yeah.

00:37:50.360 Like when they do get ready with me's.

00:37:52.160 It's so.

00:37:52.940 I'm like, what 21 year old intern posted this?

00:37:55.500 Literally.

00:37:55.920 I do find it incredibly like frustrating to hear that conversation, but I'm glad that

00:38:00.640 you and I are still chugging along.

00:38:02.340 You have to.

00:38:03.160 Yeah.

00:38:03.360 I'm like, well.

00:38:04.540 Also, it's like, I, I'm so sure of what I'm doing.

00:38:08.520 Right.

00:38:08.780 Same.

00:38:09.060 How I feel about it.

00:38:09.700 Like, and yeah, like you just, it is what it is.

00:38:12.860 I, I'm good on me.

00:38:15.460 I'm good on me.

00:38:16.880 Yeah.

00:38:17.040 Don't you worry about me.

00:38:18.620 Girl.

00:38:19.060 I'm doing fine.

00:38:19.960 Yeah.

00:38:20.320 I agree.

00:38:20.940 And I, and I'm just going to keep shoving my way into more rooms.

00:38:24.060 Absolutely.

00:38:24.260 To be honest.

00:38:24.600 I think like.

00:38:25.480 That's honestly the more fun way to get in the room.

00:38:27.360 I'm saying.

00:38:28.460 Shove somebody over.

00:38:29.440 Yeah.

00:38:29.620 Sometimes when I'm in there, like, where was I at?

00:38:32.320 I was at something.

00:38:34.200 God, I forget.

00:38:35.140 I, oh, I was at a, a, like women's like empowerment thing.

00:38:39.440 Yeah.

00:38:39.580 I forget for who, but, um, this girl told me, I think who they were, one of their main honorees

00:38:44.680 was Kate Hudson.

00:38:46.300 And she was, this girl came up to me like towards the end and she was like, oh my God,

00:38:51.380 I'm such a huge fan.

00:38:53.220 I was like, oh, thank you.

00:38:54.380 And she was like, you are the coolest, like, oh my God, I can't believe I met you.

00:38:58.860 Like you're the best person I've met tonight.

00:39:00.800 Mind you, there's like tons of A-list people.

00:39:02.940 Beyonce's in the room.

00:39:03.620 Yeah.

00:39:03.860 And I literally told her, I said, make sure you tell Kate Hudson that.

00:39:06.800 Let her know that I'm coming for that spot.

00:39:08.940 But that's the other thing too.

00:39:10.060 Like you go in those spaces and you learn that you have, I went to the, the first time I went

00:39:14.240 to the Oscars.

00:39:14.960 Yeah.

00:39:15.720 I'm there walking around and people came up to me to say like, I watch your videos.

00:39:22.040 We're at the Oscars and you're, you're nominate.

00:39:26.700 Like what?

00:39:27.340 It's nuts.

00:39:28.180 That's crazy.

00:39:29.240 It's crazy to think about like A-list talent, especially like being online like that.

00:39:33.660 Like watching, I was like, girl, don't be doing that.

00:39:35.660 Don't be watching me.

00:39:36.360 Yeah.

00:39:36.860 Don't watch me do things.

00:39:37.780 And everybody's online like that.

00:39:39.160 Like everybody is online.

00:39:41.080 I know.

00:39:41.580 And that's why I'm like, and I don't want to hear shit.

00:39:44.900 About like, why are you influencers there?

00:39:46.960 Cause you guys won't watch unless we're there.

00:39:49.100 Literally.

00:39:49.740 Like they invite, like, do they make me wait tables when I get there?

00:39:53.080 Yes.

00:39:53.360 Of course they do.

00:39:55.160 Yeah.

00:39:55.720 Yeah.

00:39:56.000 Do they give me and Bowman a vest to valet cars when we get there?

00:39:59.120 I have valeted a few cars.

00:40:00.600 Yeah.

00:40:01.400 Yeah.

00:40:01.900 But you're still tuning in because you're like, oh, the person I love online is there

00:40:06.200 too.

00:40:06.500 And I'm going to go watch them.

00:40:07.740 Unfortunately, it's the future.

00:40:09.000 Right.

00:40:09.500 I only know about TV shows because I saw them online.

00:40:13.580 Right.

00:40:14.060 I saw the trailers on.

00:40:15.720 I don't know what cable's up to these days.

00:40:17.820 I have no idea what's going on.

00:40:20.660 Like, I don't know.

00:40:21.940 I need to ask you a question that's going to feel pointed.

00:40:26.040 And I'm prepared.

00:40:28.620 Have you watched that new show, Heated Rivalry?

00:40:33.400 And it's not because you're gay.

00:40:35.100 Is it because I'm gay?

00:40:36.400 It's because you're Canadian.

00:40:37.900 Okay.

00:40:38.480 And one of them is Canadian and a hockey player.

00:40:40.580 Hockey's huge up there.

00:40:41.900 You guys love hockey.

00:40:42.840 You know that.

00:40:44.420 Drew, I want you to know that I watched it last night.

00:40:47.880 Oh, my God.

00:40:48.640 Wait, is it all out?

00:40:49.680 Or is it like one at a time?

00:40:50.840 There's two episodes out right now.

00:40:56.100 Okay.

00:40:57.680 How do I say this?

00:40:59.600 I'm so intrigued.

00:41:01.900 But I don't really care about hockey.

00:41:03.760 So that's why I'm kind of like, no.

00:41:04.620 Do you care about boys kissing?

00:41:07.540 I guess.

00:41:08.960 Because if you care about boys kissing like I do,

00:41:12.920 you should tune into this show.

00:41:15.620 Boy, do I have the show for you.

00:41:17.540 Okay.

00:41:17.720 I saw someone say, though,

00:41:19.000 I haven't watched them play hockey once.

00:41:21.800 I don't.

00:41:22.740 Is there hockey in that show?

00:41:24.980 I thought it was a soccer show.

00:41:27.020 Like, I didn't know there was any sports involved.

00:41:29.520 Right.

00:41:30.620 The boys kiss.

00:41:32.080 Right.

00:41:33.000 The boys kiss.

00:41:34.160 And first of all, normalize the boys kissing.

00:41:36.680 Yes.

00:41:37.180 I watched Boots on Netflix.

00:41:39.320 Okay.

00:41:39.960 It was cute.

00:41:40.520 My sister watched that.

00:41:41.200 She said she loved it.

00:41:41.960 It was cute.

00:41:42.220 Yeah.

00:41:42.460 It was cute.

00:41:43.200 I was like, when do the boys kiss?

00:41:45.840 Hey, get to the kissing.

00:41:47.280 Oh, you want to talk about get to the kissing?

00:41:50.540 They said, all right, start kissing now.

00:41:55.840 And don't you dare stop.

00:41:58.100 It actually is like, thank God I watched it alone.

00:42:01.500 I know you blushing when I brought it up.

00:42:06.900 You saw that, right?

00:42:08.320 Like, I was like, oh my God.

00:42:10.840 I heard it was good.

00:42:12.180 Oh, it was more than good.

00:42:13.360 It was good.

00:42:13.940 Good in that sense and good in the literal sense, too.

00:42:16.800 I felt things watching that show that I haven't felt in a long time.

00:42:23.280 And I think that's really beautiful.

00:42:24.760 I think that's a beautiful thing.

00:42:26.180 I love a good smutty book turned into a TV show.

00:42:29.760 Yes.

00:42:30.000 I'm loving it.

00:42:30.820 And when you put it on things like HBO so you can see everything, I'm loving it.

00:42:34.500 Period.

00:42:34.760 You see everything.

00:42:36.780 And thank God for that.

00:42:38.320 Thank God for Crave.

00:42:39.720 You know who else has a show on Crave?

00:42:41.520 You do.

00:42:41.800 I do.

00:42:45.760 See that plug?

00:42:46.880 But there's no boys kissing in my show.

00:42:49.460 Damn.

00:42:50.000 You got to get back in the studio then and start writing again.

00:42:52.620 Well, let's get it popping.

00:42:55.340 Let's do it.

00:42:57.320 Thank God for a heated rivalry because now I know what to put in a good TV show.

00:43:03.680 Gay porn.

00:43:04.080 Do you want a captivated audience?

00:43:06.200 Gay sex.

00:43:08.980 Love making between two hot jocks.

00:43:12.520 Yeah.

00:43:12.860 Two hockey players.

00:43:13.860 I couldn't believe what I was witnessing with my own two eyes.

00:43:17.080 I'm shocked they put it on television.

00:43:20.400 And yeah, I feel bad to anybody that watched that show with their friends or their family.

00:43:26.180 Really?

00:43:26.640 Was it that intense?

00:43:28.340 It's crazy town.

00:43:29.440 Drew.

00:43:30.160 I know.

00:43:30.860 I've had one of my friends like texting me about it.

00:43:32.900 And he was like, girl.

00:43:34.660 It's just crazy.

00:43:35.700 The sound effects they use are crazy.

00:43:39.900 Really?

00:43:41.080 It is.

00:43:42.060 And you know what?

00:43:42.860 The thing also that is what I thought is beautiful about it is that they get it right.

00:43:48.500 Like they really get the tension right.

00:43:52.240 That's my favorite part of like romance anything is the tension.

00:43:56.720 Yes.

00:43:57.120 Because once you're doing it, you're doing it.

00:43:58.420 Exactly.

00:43:59.020 But the tension, the buildup is like literal and metaphorical foreplay.

00:44:02.660 Yes.

00:44:02.800 I think it's better.

00:44:03.480 Especially in that first episode.

00:44:05.000 There's like, there's really, I don't want to spoil it, but the boys kiss.

00:44:07.900 Yes.

00:44:08.740 And especially with between gay men, like when you see each other in public spaces or at

00:44:14.160 the bar or like wherever, it's like, there's always a vibe of like, are you gay?

00:44:19.740 Oh, T.

00:44:20.660 Are you in, do you like what I like?

00:44:23.240 Temp gauging.

00:44:23.960 And so they get that right in that first episode and that like builds the tension a

00:44:28.200 little bit.

00:44:28.640 Love.

00:44:29.660 Really well done.

00:44:31.580 If you want to pop a stiffy, watch Heated Rivalry on Crave.

00:44:38.160 Right.

00:44:38.600 And then if you want to pop another one, watch Made for TV starring Bowman Martinez-Reed on

00:44:45.020 Crave.

00:44:45.680 Charge up that rose toy and go to work.

00:44:48.240 Yep.

00:44:49.960 Any other shows you're loving lately?

00:44:52.180 The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

00:44:54.280 Oh, T.

00:44:55.040 Is there a new season or something?

00:44:56.740 Drew?

00:44:57.820 I've never watched Housewives.

00:45:00.580 Like literally ever.

00:45:02.400 It was nice talking.

00:45:04.980 This is the best show on TV.

00:45:06.520 Really?

00:45:07.100 And I'm going to tell you right now, all of my friends, I feel like I'm like Mormon or

00:45:12.720 something.

00:45:13.020 I've converted everybody.

00:45:14.000 Right.

00:45:14.320 I'm going door to door to all my friends and explaining them about The Real Housewives

00:45:18.840 of Salt Lake City and why they should watch it.

00:45:20.860 Wait, who did I talk to that said you put them on?

00:45:23.240 Was it Andrew Muscarella or Eric?

00:45:26.320 Did you put Eric on or was Eric?

00:45:27.860 Eric was already on.

00:45:28.700 No, no.

00:45:29.140 There was someone that said Bowman literally told me watch this season through this season.

00:45:32.280 It might have been Andrew.

00:45:33.100 Yeah, it was probably Andrew.

00:45:34.120 It probably was Andrew.

00:45:35.480 If you, I told Eden, my best friend Eden, watch The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

00:45:41.040 And she said no.

00:45:42.180 And then for the next three years, I told her over and over and over again.

00:45:45.720 She said no, I'm not doing it.

00:45:47.680 But she is hooked.

00:45:51.640 She is.

00:45:52.140 She, she snapchatted me the other day to say that she went to watch the new Stranger Things

00:45:57.140 season, but she couldn't because she needed to get through Salt Lake City.

00:46:02.400 It is so good.

00:46:05.640 It is so good.

00:46:06.820 If you want to get into The Housewives, it's a great place to start.

00:46:09.480 Okay.

00:46:09.880 T.

00:46:10.180 It's newer.

00:46:10.600 That is what Andrew told me, I think, because he was telling me I didn't even know where

00:46:13.760 to start.

00:46:14.260 And Roman told me to start with Salt Lake City.

00:46:15.980 It is so, so good.

00:46:18.580 I was like, I had my friend Kat Cohen on recently and she loves reality TV, loves The Housewives.

00:46:24.260 But she was telling me, she was like, I'm a recent convert to The Housewives.

00:46:28.260 Like she said, like a couple of years ago is when she started.

00:46:30.520 Convert is crazy.

00:46:31.440 And she goes, have you ever watched it?

00:46:33.140 And I go, no.

00:46:33.620 She goes, you're the luckiest girl in the world.

00:46:37.380 Okay, but.

00:46:38.060 You can watch it for the first time.

00:46:39.400 God, I'm jealous.

00:46:40.900 No, I'm so jealous.

00:46:43.180 Like of Eden.

00:46:44.540 I was like, I wish she got to like a huge climax, like a huge climax episode.

00:46:49.540 And I was like, I wish I could watch this for the first time all over again.

00:46:52.980 Like I am jealous.

00:46:54.360 I have envy.

00:46:55.080 Real television.

00:46:55.880 I'm green with envy.

00:46:58.400 Oh my God.

00:46:59.560 So that's what I'm watching.

00:47:00.860 T.

00:47:00.980 My sister loves serialized Mormon wives.

00:47:03.100 Do you watch that one?

00:47:03.980 Can't get into it.

00:47:04.900 Yeah.

00:47:05.180 I think that I'm a Bravo girl.

00:47:07.020 And Bravo has a really specific way of making reality TV.

00:47:10.680 That's true.

00:47:11.480 Yeah.

00:47:11.700 And then when I try to watch like Hulu or like the Netflix reality shows, I just can't.

00:47:17.400 Not hitting the same.

00:47:19.100 It's like, then I go, oh yeah, reality TV is fake.

00:47:21.680 Right.

00:47:21.980 It's not scratching the itch.

00:47:23.520 It's not scratching the itch.

00:47:24.640 My, uh, my cousin, Adam, who does my hair and makeup, he actually did the hair and makeup

00:47:29.260 for one of the Salt Lake City wives.

00:47:31.460 Jason, do you remember the housewife that Adam did her hair and makeup?

00:47:35.420 Genshaw.

00:47:36.740 Genshaw.

00:47:37.340 Genshaw.

00:47:37.500 Yeah.

00:47:37.780 So yeah, the, the one, which is funny.

00:47:39.680 Cause every time we say that, everyone's like, no.

00:47:41.920 And you have no idea why.

00:47:43.320 No.

00:47:44.380 Well, I do kind of, I, I, um, yeah, she's half Tongan.

00:47:48.220 So that's how she found Adam, my cousin.

00:47:49.820 Yeah.

00:47:50.360 So, so he, he was with her right before all that shit happened.

00:47:55.120 And like, so he's like, also, she's the nicest.

00:47:59.100 Depends who you ask.

00:48:00.340 Apparently.

00:48:01.160 He's like, she's really nice.

00:48:02.460 She was always nice to me.

00:48:03.460 Like, I was like, oh, but every time I tell people who love Bravo that they're like, no

00:48:08.840 fucking way.

00:48:09.780 That's like saying, oh, well you, it's like, imagine I just say, oh yeah, my friend just

00:48:14.000 did Michael Jackson's makeup the day before he died.

00:48:17.620 Yeah.

00:48:18.060 I'm going to gag.

00:48:19.160 Like that I'm going to start jonesing.

00:48:21.320 Like that's going to gag me.

00:48:24.380 There are some things in life that like you deserve like a bat, like a badge.

00:48:29.800 Yeah.

00:48:30.140 Or like I saw on Tik TOK, like somebody said like, I'm rich because I saw Billie Eilish

00:48:35.960 sing whatever song live.

00:48:37.420 Right, right, right.

00:48:38.200 And it's like, if I were the makeup artist, I would be like, I am rich because I got to

00:48:43.620 do Jen Shaw's makeup.

00:48:44.920 I was, he was her main makeup, hair and makeup artist for like a while.

00:48:52.220 That's crazy.

00:48:53.380 All while she was going through the housewives, the trial too.

00:48:57.020 Yeah.

00:48:57.180 Wow.

00:48:58.040 It was crazy.

00:48:58.700 And he was like, I know sometimes people like freak out when I tell them that, but like,

00:49:02.480 but he did a lot of housewives, but like, that was like his, his big one.

00:49:05.600 Wow.

00:49:06.020 Yeah.

00:49:06.500 It's crazy.

00:49:07.060 Well, shout out to him.

00:49:08.260 You're like, that's crazy.

00:49:12.340 Imagine I said I would, did Michael Jackson's makeup.

00:49:16.440 But somebody, somebody somewhere says that and everybody gags and they deserve a medal

00:49:23.500 for that.

00:49:24.460 Every single time.

00:49:25.560 Yeah.

00:49:25.960 Any other shows you're gagged over movies?

00:49:28.740 Oh my God.

00:49:29.440 I saw Eternity.

00:49:30.640 How was it?

00:49:31.520 The other day.

00:49:32.280 What was that?

00:49:32.960 Ghost.

00:49:33.720 James.

00:49:34.080 What was that?

00:49:35.060 James.

00:49:35.460 James.

00:49:37.980 Okay.

00:49:38.500 We mentioned Michael Jackson and that fell off.

00:49:41.300 He's back.

00:49:42.480 Don't say another bad word.

00:49:43.720 Everybody run.

00:49:47.320 Okay.

00:49:48.060 I saw Eternity.

00:49:49.580 How was it?

00:49:50.200 The A24 movie.

00:49:51.140 Was it good?

00:49:52.240 Oh my God.

00:49:52.880 It was so good.

00:49:53.620 I thought so.

00:49:54.640 I was excited to see it.

00:49:56.520 It is so good.

00:49:57.880 It's like bring back rom-coms.

00:49:59.980 Yes.

00:50:00.420 But they do it in this like absurdist way that is just so entertaining.

00:50:05.540 Love.

00:50:06.260 Oh my God.

00:50:07.120 Wonderful movie.

00:50:08.160 Period.

00:50:08.560 I haven't seen Wicked yet.

00:50:09.440 I'm avoiding it.

00:50:10.380 Why?

00:50:11.320 I hear it's not that good.

00:50:17.260 That's another ghost.

00:50:18.120 And Michael Jackson agrees.

00:50:21.120 I loved it.

00:50:22.460 Really?

00:50:22.920 I enjoyed it.

00:50:23.580 Yeah.

00:50:23.660 Okay.

00:50:24.320 Well, I went to the premiere, but I enjoyed it.

00:50:27.020 And I loved them and I thought they did a good job with what they had.

00:50:31.020 Okay.

00:50:31.260 I will say though, the, as long as you're mine scene, I've been saying it was, it was

00:50:36.580 a lot more sexy than I thought.

00:50:38.580 Like for the TV.

00:50:40.260 Interesting.

00:50:40.740 I was like, interesting for the PG rating.

00:50:42.560 Interesting.

00:50:43.340 But I do remember when she was walking, I said, come on, anthropology cardigan.

00:50:49.360 Me workshopping bits during the movie while it's going.

00:50:53.240 I'm easy to please, but somebody told me it's bad.

00:50:56.280 Like, I feel like if I went, I'd probably gag.

00:50:58.720 Yeah.

00:50:59.220 Like, why wouldn't I gag?

00:51:00.300 Yeah.

00:51:00.960 But I also don't want to cry.

00:51:01.960 Did you cry?

00:51:02.600 Yeah.

00:51:03.180 I cried at the first movie.

00:51:05.680 Oh.

00:51:06.000 And that's only part one.

00:51:07.300 Girl, that Oz does ballroom scene.

00:51:10.040 I for real thought I was going to have to be escorted off the premises.

00:51:12.720 Oh.

00:51:13.120 I was like, I'm going to need to be sedated pretty quickly.

00:51:16.300 Yeah.

00:51:16.720 Unless someone.

00:51:17.800 Also, when I, Teffy was at that premiere too, and I saw her and hung out with her.

00:51:22.620 She kept calling her El Faba.

00:51:23.900 So, like, every time, every time I, like, see the name, I'm like, El Faba.

00:51:29.440 Because that's how she goes.

00:51:30.080 El Faba is crazy.

00:51:33.720 El Faba.

00:51:34.600 Yeah, El Faba.

00:51:35.480 And then at the end, after we left, she had texted me and my sister, and she was like,

00:51:40.080 just want to tell you guys that I would dance with you guys too if you put your ugly little

00:51:44.360 hat on the ground.

00:51:45.300 I also would dance with you guys.

00:51:47.340 Unprovoked.

00:51:47.820 I wouldn't say anything to her about that.

00:51:50.820 Why would I be, why would I have the ugly hat?

00:51:53.900 Now, why would I be in it?

00:51:55.800 You wear that.

00:51:57.880 I'm 50.

00:51:58.500 What'd I do?

00:51:58.640 She gagged you.

00:51:59.440 Yeah.

00:52:00.200 And she gagged you.

00:52:01.160 When you inevitably wear an ugly hat somewhere, I'll dance with you.

00:52:03.980 Yeah.

00:52:04.540 Which is very sweet of her.

00:52:05.700 That's really sweet.

00:52:06.800 Shout out to Teffy.

00:52:07.900 Shout out.

00:52:08.660 Shout out to Teffy.

00:52:09.600 Yeah.

00:52:10.220 She talks about you to me all the time too.

00:52:11.900 As she should.

00:52:13.900 As she should.

00:52:14.520 You're the one who got away from Teffy.

00:52:16.760 You're the one that got away.

00:52:17.820 She's like a, okay, I don't mean this the wrong, Teffy, Teffy, I don't mean this in

00:52:24.360 the wrong way, but she's like a car salesman.

00:52:28.780 That's so true.

00:52:29.780 She could sell anything to any, she could sell, what is it, water to a rat?

00:52:37.000 I don't know what the saying is, but she could sell anything.

00:52:39.800 I hope she's talking about me in rooms that I'm not in yet.

00:52:43.100 Yeah, right.

00:52:44.100 She, I've made this joke before, but like who I think like people who consume our content

00:52:50.680 online, what they think I'm like in real life is like Teffy in real life, which, what she

00:52:57.900 comes off, and what she comes off like on the internet is actually what I'm like, which

00:53:04.300 in real life, right?

00:53:05.440 Like a lot more chill.

00:53:06.860 It's so true though.

00:53:07.860 Cause like she is like my, cause she came to spend Christmas with my family last year.

00:53:13.340 And she just came to spend Christmas with us.

00:53:16.580 That's, that's an A24 mood.

00:53:18.500 That's a movie I want to watch.

00:53:21.940 Teffy with my family.

00:53:22.920 Teffy with my family.

00:53:24.060 It's true.

00:53:24.780 And she like, uh, it was so funny cause she could talk to anyone about anything for hours.

00:53:30.620 Yeah.

00:53:31.040 And then my man was like, she's like a little like Tasmanian devil.

00:53:35.400 Like she just spins up in this cyclone and everyone gets swept up in with her.

00:53:39.180 It's the best though.

00:53:40.380 I, I've never met anybody.

00:53:41.780 I've never met anybody like that.

00:53:44.340 Yeah.

00:53:44.580 I can just talk to anybody and make a friend out of them.

00:53:47.540 We went to Scotland together and, and she would like, we, we went to like a castle and

00:53:53.340 we had a tour guide and she's buddy, buddy with the tour guide, like shooting the shit

00:53:57.960 with this old elderly Scottish lady.

00:54:01.500 I'm like, Teffy, leave this poor lady alone.

00:54:03.480 But like the, but the lady loves her.

00:54:06.420 Like, yeah, it's just so easy to fall in love with her.

00:54:09.280 No, so easy.

00:54:10.180 I was telling her, she, when she jokes about you with me, she's like, oh, he like, he like

00:54:14.760 kind of hates me.

00:54:15.540 And like, that's like what I love.

00:54:16.800 Like, I think that's why I'm chasing him so bad.

00:54:18.900 Cause I like, I mean, like he, you know, she's like, that's how men, no, I know.

00:54:22.640 She's like, that's how men used to, you know, treat me when we would date.

00:54:26.100 So that's why I'm like so attracted to him.

00:54:27.800 Oh, well, Teffy, Teffy.

00:54:31.100 She's like, I think that's why I love it.

00:54:32.520 I'm just chasing it.

00:54:33.520 You know, like the high of Bowman approval.

00:54:35.580 Teffy, my DMs are open.

00:54:38.600 Thruple incoming.

00:54:39.920 I'm going to start a rumor about you and Teffy.

00:54:42.320 Oh, please.

00:54:43.100 But I do have some fun facts about you.

00:54:44.980 Oh.

00:54:45.660 Speaking of rumors.

00:54:46.680 Okay.

00:54:46.700 I'll be the judge of that.

00:54:47.960 Okay.

00:54:48.680 Whether or not they're fun.

00:54:49.980 Okay.

00:54:50.380 It says in high school, you created a spoof reality series for YouTube called read it and

00:54:56.120 weep that you continued into college.

00:54:57.940 And that is a fun fact.

00:54:59.480 That is a fun fact.

00:55:00.260 That is a fun fact.

00:55:01.560 Yeah.

00:55:02.100 I, I, um, in high school, I wanted to have my own TV show.

00:55:05.360 That was my dream.

00:55:06.180 And then my brother one day was just like, oh, well, why don't you just make your own

00:55:09.500 TV show?

00:55:10.040 And I went, oh, and I was obsessed with the housewives.

00:55:13.900 Kind of like, like housewives are like the Amanda show.

00:55:16.560 Like, like, like the housewives.

00:55:18.380 Okay.

00:55:18.700 It's like a reality show about me and my life at the time.

00:55:22.920 Just you by yourself.

00:55:23.480 And it was like me and my friends.

00:55:24.680 Okay.

00:55:25.000 And we had storylines.

00:55:26.220 And there was four seasons of this and nobody watched, nobody watched.

00:55:31.680 And that's okay.

00:55:32.940 I think there's like a two episodes up on my YouTube.

00:55:35.760 Okay.

00:55:36.280 Read it.

00:55:36.900 And weep.

00:55:37.880 Love that.

00:55:38.740 Really, really stupid.

00:55:40.080 I love four seasons, four seasons of episodes to do it for the fans.

00:55:45.540 But you know what?

00:55:46.160 I, I look back on that so fondly because that was just me and my friends and my friends just

00:55:51.580 like believing in me and my dreams.

00:55:53.520 That's so sweet.

00:55:54.700 Like that is, that is, yeah.

00:55:56.440 I love that.

00:55:57.140 I loved doing that.

00:55:58.360 When, uh, my sister and I were young, we had, um, I, we used to like, um, like do shit

00:56:04.400 like that too.

00:56:04.920 Like, oh, let's pretend whatever.

00:56:06.480 And my mom had this like tape recorder that she used to take to record lectures in college

00:56:10.960 because she's a hundred years old.

00:56:12.860 Right.

00:56:12.980 And so when I, I borrowed the tape recorder, I was like, can we use this?

00:56:16.780 And she's like, yeah.

00:56:17.580 Cause we had never had it.

00:56:18.640 We didn't have cell phones or anything like that.

00:56:20.220 So we literally would record ourselves doing a radio show.

00:56:24.980 And so we would be like two radio, like I would be the host of the radio show.

00:56:29.740 And she was always my guest, my celebrity guest, which is crazy how this has worked out.

00:56:34.400 Like, that's weird.

00:56:35.700 My, my brain is so powerful, but like we would like do this and we had a theme song and everything.

00:56:40.460 And we would record as long as it would let us on this little tape.

00:56:43.480 Oh my God.

00:56:44.060 And every time she would be a different celebrity and I'd be like, please welcome to my show.

00:56:48.220 And I would say like Miley Cyrus or whatever.

00:56:50.700 Cause that's crazy.

00:56:51.560 Isn't that so weird?

00:56:52.620 And so then I would ask, I would invite her and then I would start asking her questions.

00:56:56.700 And for some reason, every episode ended the same way, which was, I would ask her one too many questions.

00:57:03.480 She'd get mad and then she would beat me up.

00:57:06.840 Oh.

00:57:07.240 And that was like the end of the show.

00:57:09.120 Like she was actually mad.

00:57:10.200 Yeah.

00:57:10.560 No.

00:57:10.920 Yeah.

00:57:11.160 Like she'd be like, don't say that to me.

00:57:13.040 And then she would just pretend to beat me up.

00:57:15.540 Got it.

00:57:15.980 And then, so we'd be like recording it.

00:57:17.740 So that was the running gang to end each episode.

00:57:19.420 And so then, and we only had one tape.

00:57:21.600 Yeah.

00:57:21.800 So then we would take, we would finish and then we would play it back and it would be like 20 minutes and we'd be laughing our asses off.

00:57:30.000 We'd finish.

00:57:30.560 That is so cute.

00:57:31.560 Seconds after we finished, by the way, we'd finish listening to the recording, put it back in, like clear it.

00:57:37.940 And then you delete it.

00:57:38.940 Yeah.

00:57:39.320 And then start again.

00:57:40.260 Cause we only had the one time.

00:57:41.300 That actually makes it even better.

00:57:43.340 Like you did all that to just do it again.

00:57:45.680 Yeah.

00:57:47.480 Purely the love of the game.

00:57:49.000 And we did, and we would start again.

00:57:50.500 And then I would introduce her again.

00:57:52.160 She'd be a different guest.

00:57:53.400 And then she would beat me up.

00:57:54.620 Like that was the end every single time.

00:57:56.960 That is so funny.

00:57:59.260 And we would, and I'd laugh and we'd be like, God, we're the funniest people in the world.

00:58:02.800 Start it over.

00:58:04.700 I used to do something similar with my sister.

00:58:06.860 We had, we had a, somebody gave us a camcorder and we would make sketches.

00:58:12.200 Like we would have, we would make sketches and then we would like debut it for our family.

00:58:17.160 Like one of our, and it was always her.

00:58:19.120 She was always the star and I was always behind the camera.

00:58:21.180 But like we had so many bits, like one of our bits was a cooking, like a chef, a TV chef.

00:58:29.800 And her name was Fritzy Frustration.

00:58:34.160 Fritzy Frustration.

00:58:35.160 Yes.

00:58:35.700 And she would just had anger management issues.

00:58:37.580 See, what was that?

00:58:39.620 That came from our brains at the time.

00:58:41.620 And she would try to cook, but she would get so angry at everything and she could never cook.

00:58:47.140 Or then we'd have commercials.

00:58:48.860 Yeah.

00:58:49.140 And then, or like we'd have like different channels.

00:58:51.340 Like one of our channels was called the clock channel.

00:58:55.540 I definitely stole this from some TV show, but it was like the clock channel.

00:58:59.480 And it was just a video of the clock.

00:59:01.560 And it was her voice going next on the clock channel, 503.

00:59:09.980 Where did I get that?

00:59:11.260 That feels like something you definitely made up.

00:59:13.880 I don't know.

00:59:15.000 I don't know if you stole that from anybody.

00:59:17.000 There was one, there was one, it was a commercial for a product that we thought somebody needed.

00:59:22.460 Right.

00:59:22.900 And it was called the scent, the scent blower, I think.

00:59:26.920 Or no, so no, no, no.

00:59:27.980 It was the bend a sniffer, which was a straw that you would hold to your nose so that you could smell flowers.

00:59:34.920 And then if you call now, you can get the scent blower.

00:59:42.080 And then the next shot was her with the, with the bend a sniffer, the straw to her nose and me with a leaf blower.

00:59:50.320 Like blowing the scent into her nose.

00:59:53.080 How did we think of that?

00:59:54.780 That's why I said we're so creative.

00:59:56.160 Oh my God.

00:59:56.860 When we're young.

00:59:57.700 Bring back being a kid.

00:59:59.180 That's what I'm saying.

01:00:00.320 Like it's beautiful.

01:00:01.680 I was joking about this with my friend the other day.

01:00:03.620 I was telling her like, I am very grateful because I feel like I, what year were you born?

01:00:09.340 98.

01:00:09.920 Okay.

01:00:10.140 I was 95.

01:00:11.300 I think mine is like one of the last years with no phones and no real internet.

01:00:16.260 Like when I was a freshman in high school, that was like 2009.

01:00:20.940 That was like YouTube had just barely started and like MySpace was still a thing.

01:00:25.200 Like, so like I was, I'm really glad that I grew up in that era where like we would record each other.

01:00:29.780 Like Andrew and Joe, like from Good Children, obviously like they have so many videos.

01:00:34.120 I wish we had more videos, but like I'm a hundred years old compared to you guys.

01:00:38.020 So like we don't have a lot of footage of it, but like shit like that was like, I used to think, I was like, someone needs to put this on television.

01:00:48.200 I can be like, boy, do I have the opportunity of a lifetime for you.

01:00:52.040 It's such a, I feel similarly.

01:00:54.460 Like I had such a privilege to be able to look back and not have like memories of technology for like so many of like my developing years.

01:01:03.760 Yeah.

01:01:04.140 And also I feel like I was the age that like, maybe you feel similarly.

01:01:07.720 Like we, I grew up with social media.

01:01:11.040 Yeah.

01:01:11.660 Like Instagram wasn't a thing until like grade eight for me.

01:01:15.300 Yeah.

01:01:15.600 And then in high school it was like all about Instagram and Vine.

01:01:18.500 And then, like, it just felt like it was steps rather than just like all of it.

01:01:23.120 It existed.

01:01:23.500 Like imagine.

01:01:24.360 Yeah.

01:01:25.080 And honestly, thank fucking God.

01:01:27.280 Thank God.

01:01:27.800 Because I'm so glad no one gave me an iPhone when I was that old.

01:01:30.500 Oh, bitch.

01:01:31.520 The amount of shit I'd have on the internet.

01:01:33.280 We went outside to play.

01:01:35.160 Yeah.

01:01:35.700 Socialize.

01:01:36.160 Yeah.

01:01:36.360 And we made, we made films, films at home.

01:01:40.000 Oh, we made a film or two.

01:01:41.460 Yeah.

01:01:42.080 Yup.

01:01:42.820 Yup.

01:01:43.400 Yup.

01:01:43.940 Yeah.

01:01:44.220 I used to love like when we would do skits and stuff like that, like just to make each

01:01:49.180 other laugh.

01:01:49.740 Like it was like, that's all it was.

01:01:51.160 That's the funniest thing.

01:01:51.960 We were just trying to make each other laugh.

01:01:55.000 And mission accomplished.

01:01:56.540 Like we were laughing.

01:01:58.540 We were laughing.

01:01:58.760 And I was like, gosh, you guys just don't get it.

01:02:00.860 Yeah.

01:02:01.060 Do you remember flip cameras?

01:02:02.520 Did you guys have those in Canada?

01:02:03.820 What's a flip camera?

01:02:04.920 Is that like the video camera?

01:02:06.160 Like the small compact ones?

01:02:06.500 Yes.

01:02:06.720 But it was like, okay, I think maybe it was an American thing, but it's like, it was literally

01:02:10.460 just a camera, but it was like an iPhone like this, but it just had one lens and then

01:02:14.880 you just one big button that said record.

01:02:17.100 And that was it.

01:02:17.440 I think I had, oh my God.

01:02:19.080 Yeah.

01:02:19.340 Do you remember those?

01:02:20.000 Was it red?

01:02:20.720 Yeah.

01:02:20.920 Well, mine was, you had red?

01:02:22.720 I think I had a red one.

01:02:23.640 Yeah.

01:02:24.140 Mine was black.

01:02:25.160 We had like a black one.

01:02:26.220 With like a little small screen.

01:02:27.500 You could see what you were recording.

01:02:28.020 Yes.

01:02:28.040 The tiniest little screen.

01:02:29.420 Oh, I, I love mine.

01:02:31.240 Yeah.

01:02:31.480 And then you could pop out the USB out of it and then plug it into the computer to like

01:02:35.780 upload your shit.

01:02:36.860 Yes.

01:02:37.320 And we would record us like lip syncing three and a half minutes of a song.

01:02:43.660 And then we would be going in like lip syncing all the lyrics and then pretending to beat

01:02:48.800 each other up while we're doing it.

01:02:50.240 There's a lot of fighting going on.

01:02:51.620 There's a lot of beating up.

01:02:52.720 There's a lot.

01:02:53.620 Okay.

01:02:54.000 I was like, it was giving fritzy frustration.

01:02:55.700 It was like Tom and Jerry kind of vibe.

01:02:59.540 You know what I mean?

01:03:00.000 Yeah.

01:03:01.220 Mallets over the head.

01:03:02.560 Like that's what we were laughing all the time.

01:03:04.540 Oh God.

01:03:04.960 It was like, so like, even when I talk about the Jonas brother video that I made when I

01:03:09.120 was 12, I think.

01:03:10.920 Yeah.

01:03:11.680 We made that in our room.

01:03:13.480 And I remember we had like these tiny little computers.

01:03:16.380 My sister edited it for us to submit, to win a contest.

01:03:20.220 Turns out Jason doesn't, it's stupid and doesn't know tri-state area means the East Coast.

01:03:24.060 Oh.

01:03:24.280 Because she was like, they're never going to consider us.

01:03:27.200 And we like, we did a whole skit too, like of why we felt like we were the biggest fans.

01:03:32.840 And there's a part in there because I was vulnerable and I showed part of this video

01:03:36.680 on TikTok when I did a SeatGeek ad because SeatGeek gave me tickets to go see the Jonas

01:03:41.840 brothers on Broadway.

01:03:42.500 So like, I was like, half to put this in my ad.

01:03:45.300 So I put that little YouTube clip in there.

01:03:47.500 No one can ever find it.

01:03:48.540 It's hidden.

01:03:49.520 But like, I put it in there and at the very end, because our entire room was Jonas brother

01:03:53.940 posters, like three out of the four walls, ceiling to floor, Jonas brother posters.

01:03:58.440 Oh, okay.

01:03:59.260 Which was crazy and insane.

01:04:00.780 That is crazy.

01:04:01.240 And horrifying when you think about it, really.

01:04:03.320 And we were in that room when we were filming the skit.

01:04:06.480 Yeah.

01:04:07.080 And at the very end, Jason put in, she goes, I put in these edits at the end.

01:04:11.880 And let me know what you think.

01:04:14.040 And she literally just took pictures with her laptop, like holding her laptop like this,

01:04:18.980 like took pictures of each wall, like, like each wall.

01:04:22.820 Of your room.

01:04:23.320 Yeah.

01:04:23.520 Just so that.

01:04:24.160 So at the very end of the video, it's like still photos of the room, but she put on there

01:04:28.860 because she put graphics on there, like letters and she put welcome.

01:04:33.120 I think it was welcome to the, on the next one.

01:04:37.040 And the last one said Jonas sphere.

01:04:39.600 Oh.

01:04:40.000 So all, yeah, I know it's awful.

01:04:43.700 Yeah, I know.

01:04:44.520 And like, I remember when she put it in at the end, I was literally like, that is the

01:04:49.220 coolest editing I've ever seen.

01:04:51.900 It didn't take much back in the day.

01:04:53.420 No, it didn't.

01:04:54.180 It really didn't.

01:04:55.440 Yeah.

01:04:55.680 By the way, the, the quality is so low on that laptop camera that the contrast is so

01:05:00.300 high.

01:05:00.740 Everything's blown out.

01:05:01.580 You can barely see anything, but you can see very clearly, welcome to the Jonas sphere.

01:05:05.540 I need to see this.

01:05:06.480 And then when I, I will show it to you.

01:05:07.920 And when I met the Jonas mothers, um, I had people commenting on my thing going, did you

01:05:12.780 invite them to the Jonas sphere?

01:05:14.080 Jonas sphere.

01:05:14.800 And I was like, literally shut the fuck up.

01:05:16.600 Oh, that's good.

01:05:17.380 See what happens when I'm vulnerable online.

01:05:19.000 And they're like, where can I see that video?

01:05:21.420 And I was like, nowhere.

01:05:23.360 I put it in an ad.

01:05:25.060 Oh, not the Jonas sphere.

01:05:26.520 The Jonas sphere.

01:05:27.620 Honestly, I'm trying to go to the Jonas sphere.

01:05:28.940 Yeah.

01:05:29.180 Someone said, lost my virginity in the Jonas sphere.

01:05:31.620 I'm going to kill you.

01:05:34.140 Don't you dare make jokes about that.

01:05:35.900 That's not funny.

01:05:36.820 That gagged you.

01:05:37.820 They gagged you with that.

01:05:39.620 Okay.

01:05:40.040 More fun facts.

01:05:41.220 Uh, it says the first episode of your series, read it and weep started because Bowman invited

01:05:47.200 his friends over for your 18th birthday, recorded everything, and then started fights with your

01:05:50.840 friends for the cameras.

01:05:52.160 Correct.

01:05:52.540 Those were all premeditated storylines or did you just surprise them with improv?

01:05:56.800 Well, okay.

01:05:57.340 All of my friends were, uh, we went to a performing arts high school, so we were all in drama and

01:06:03.840 we were all drama majors, minus my friend Eden, which is surprising.

01:06:09.600 Yeah.

01:06:09.920 Um, but we would just do that.

01:06:13.180 I think we had a bit.

01:06:14.600 This is how it started.

01:06:15.300 We had a running bit where we would be talking to each other, like, in the cath.

01:06:20.040 Yeah.

01:06:20.360 And then we would turn and act like we were doing a confessional about what just happened

01:06:25.240 between us.

01:06:26.260 And so then we just, like, did the bit for cameras.

01:06:29.840 Like, that's, like, what it was, basically.

01:06:31.740 That's really funny.

01:06:32.960 Yeah.

01:06:33.420 That's fucking funny.

01:06:34.240 God, I love my friends so much.

01:06:37.080 Aw, that's so sweet.

01:06:37.940 Even, like, you mentioning that, it just, it's such a strong reminder that I have just the

01:06:43.480 most wonderful friends around me.

01:06:45.580 Aw, that's so beautiful.

01:06:46.740 I love that.

01:06:46.900 That humor all my stupid ass ideas.

01:06:49.740 Because they knew.

01:06:51.000 That's why they knew.

01:06:51.920 They knew you were a star.

01:06:53.140 Like, you could sense.

01:06:54.180 Ah, they knew.

01:06:55.180 Ah, they knew.

01:06:56.120 And they were right.

01:06:57.000 Ah.

01:06:57.080 And, oh, my God, you're right.

01:07:00.540 And I'm not friends with any of them anymore.

01:07:02.480 And, of course, they aren't famous, so I did leave them behind.

01:07:05.160 Yeah, they're gone now.

01:07:07.220 Good riddance.

01:07:08.080 Yeah.

01:07:09.120 Okay, the next one says, you played Rapunzel's Prince in Toronto Metropolitan Theater Company's

01:07:14.260 production of Into the Woods.

01:07:16.840 Yes, I did.

01:07:18.440 I would gag to see you in Into the Woods.

01:07:21.500 Yeah.

01:07:22.140 I would gag.

01:07:22.940 That was one of the good ones.

01:07:24.380 Because I love musical theater.

01:07:27.660 That is something that people don't really know.

01:07:29.760 Yeah.

01:07:30.180 Well, okay, back to my performing arts high school.

01:07:32.640 Right.

01:07:33.100 Shout out Cawthra Park.

01:07:35.800 Cawthra Park is a performance arts high school, as I just mentioned.

01:07:40.480 Yeah.

01:07:40.820 But it's, like, top notch.

01:07:44.500 We would invest thousands of dollars into our shows at the time.

01:07:50.080 So our musicals are-

01:07:51.540 That's so cool.

01:07:52.340 We would have a fall musical and a spring play every year, and it was serious.

01:07:57.560 I could not tell you, to this day, if we have a sports team on the premises, if we have

01:08:04.040 a hockey team, no idea.

01:08:06.280 No clue.

01:08:06.700 But if you were the lead in a musical, you were the coolest kid in school.

01:08:11.480 That's T.

01:08:12.060 In grade 12, I was seaweed and hairspray.

01:08:15.000 Oh, my God.

01:08:16.800 What a cool role.

01:08:18.280 I had a lot of fun doing that, obviously.

01:08:20.680 But the grade nines were making fan pages about us.

01:08:24.640 About, like, they made one about me.

01:08:27.040 They made one about my friend Taryn, who played Link.

01:08:29.680 Like, it was serious.

01:08:31.260 Anyway, then in university-

01:08:33.780 What a dream for theater geeks, honestly.

01:08:35.400 I know.

01:08:35.800 Theater nerds.

01:08:36.280 A dream scenario.

01:08:38.340 Yeah.

01:08:38.760 Love that.

01:08:39.320 Loved that.

01:08:39.880 Oh, that's T.

01:08:40.000 But then in university, I was in, like, the musical theater club.

01:08:44.200 Mm-hmm.

01:08:45.020 And we put on a number of shows, and that was one of them.

01:08:47.680 Fun show.

01:08:48.720 T.

01:08:49.220 Really?

01:08:49.920 It's a-

01:08:50.540 And you got a voice on you, girl.

01:08:53.160 Clearly.

01:08:54.720 I think we all sing.

01:08:59.200 I think that's-

01:09:00.140 Oh, my God.

01:09:00.700 I would love to watch you.

01:09:01.980 What's the main song you sing?

01:09:04.160 Agony.

01:09:04.700 Agony.

01:09:05.180 That's what it is.

01:09:05.720 I kept saying tragedy in my head.

01:09:07.040 No.

01:09:07.360 Agony.

01:09:07.880 Agony.

01:09:08.660 That's a-

01:09:09.220 I would love to hear you sing Agony.

01:09:11.540 Yeah.

01:09:12.140 Okay.

01:09:12.500 I could not tell you how that's-

01:09:14.120 That's one of those-

01:09:14.900 You sang that.

01:09:15.560 I totally even forgot that I did that.

01:09:17.000 Right.

01:09:17.340 Also, Sondheim musicals are the weirdest musicals.

01:09:23.020 They are very strange.

01:09:24.560 They're just, like, make-sense challenge.

01:09:25.960 Yeah.

01:09:26.580 They're very strange.

01:09:27.380 The music, it's like math.

01:09:28.460 It's crazy.

01:09:28.560 I had to explain Into the Woods, because when the movie Into the Woods, when they made it

01:09:32.160 into a movie, I went to go see it in theaters, because I love that musical.

01:09:35.640 Yeah.

01:09:35.940 And I, like, took my sister, and then she was like, do they sing the whole time?

01:09:41.560 And I was like, yeah, it's a Sondheim.

01:09:43.100 And she was like, oh.

01:09:44.420 Oh, yeah.

01:09:45.200 Oh, okay.

01:09:45.680 It's one of those.

01:09:46.260 I made her watch Les Mis with me, too, and that was torturous.

01:09:48.260 See, I was just going to say, I actually don't vibe with those musicals.

01:09:51.940 Like, I need a break.

01:09:54.100 Like, I, let us-

01:09:55.860 Let me explain.

01:09:57.000 I love the music from a lot of them from Les Mis and a lot of them from Into the Woods.

01:10:01.460 Right.

01:10:01.560 Is it my favorite musical?

01:10:03.040 No.

01:10:03.380 No.

01:10:03.660 One of my favorite musicals of all time, like Broadway, is Legally Blonde.

01:10:08.080 Amazing.

01:10:08.360 That one's badass.

01:10:09.860 Love that one.

01:10:10.360 That song, what's it called?

01:10:13.540 Is it called There Right There?

01:10:14.840 Yes.

01:10:16.040 Gay or European?

01:10:16.840 About being gay.

01:10:17.340 Yeah, gay or European.

01:10:18.320 That song is so tea.

01:10:19.480 It's so good.

01:10:20.460 Because are you gay or are you just European?

01:10:23.060 Yeah.

01:10:24.680 It's so good.

01:10:25.800 It's so good.

01:10:26.260 I was blown away by that musical when I first saw it.

01:10:28.660 And I'm old enough to remember when they were casting the lead for Legally Blonde, the first run it ever had.

01:10:35.080 And they made it into an MTV reality show.

01:10:37.940 And I remember watching, and Laura Bell Bundy got cast off that show.

01:10:41.600 That's crazy.

01:10:42.620 Isn't that crazy?

01:10:43.200 I forgot about that.

01:10:43.860 Yeah.

01:10:44.320 I have very distinct memories because I was the only one who gave a fuck in my own grade.

01:10:49.600 I was like, and who's watching the Legally Blonde, the musical search for Elweds?

01:10:53.440 Is anyone else watching that?

01:10:55.060 Me at the lunch table.

01:10:56.580 Nobody else is watching.

01:10:57.500 Okay.

01:10:57.840 They would make a show about just about anything back in the day.

01:11:01.580 Right.

01:11:02.540 That Tila Tequila show.

01:11:03.900 Did you ever watch that?

01:11:04.400 Yes, of course.

01:11:05.460 Of course I did.

01:11:06.660 What was that?

01:11:07.440 When she had women and men.

01:11:08.940 Or Paris Hilton's My New BFF.

01:11:11.080 Did you ever watch that one?

01:11:12.620 Oh my God.

01:11:13.420 That was ridiculous.

01:11:14.800 I was just talking about this with my man the other day that like, I will say I've never really been a huge reality TV girl.

01:11:21.500 But like one era I remember distinctly was Jersey Shore.

01:11:24.700 When that show hit the scene, I was foaming at the mouth.

01:11:29.460 Like the way each season got better was crazy.

01:11:32.580 That, you had to be there.

01:11:34.280 Yeah, you could never bring that back.

01:11:36.040 Like that could never exist.

01:11:37.020 Although you hear that they're doing it now and it's called Canada Shore.

01:11:40.740 Oh, T.

01:11:41.560 It's like a Paramount Plus show.

01:11:43.120 Kind of like Geordie Shore over in the UK.

01:11:45.300 I guess so.

01:11:45.820 Is Geordie Shore like a spinoff of Jersey Shore?

01:11:48.860 I don't know if it's a spinoff, but I think.

01:11:50.980 I know it's like similar vibes.

01:11:52.080 Yeah, it's similar, I would say.

01:11:53.480 So I don't know if maybe they did at the same time.

01:11:55.500 This is like same Jersey Shore branding and everything Snooki is like involved somehow.

01:12:00.220 Interesting.

01:12:00.900 Yeah.

01:12:01.340 But just the rawness of them in that environment.

01:12:04.440 Also now, like when I was younger watching, I'm like, oh my God, they're a hundred.

01:12:08.000 Now that I'm like older, I'm like, they're literally 21, 22.

01:12:11.900 Like everything, when you are older and you look back, everything makes more sense.

01:12:16.260 Yeah.

01:12:16.660 Like you're like, okay.

01:12:17.680 Which is also crazy.

01:12:18.580 Like you literally think they're a hundred.

01:12:20.400 Yeah.

01:12:20.840 Like I literally, I'm like now looking back on it, as you're saying, you're my age?

01:12:25.880 Yeah.

01:12:26.900 Oh my God.

01:12:27.980 Oh my God.

01:12:29.060 Well, and all their decisions make sense.

01:12:30.880 Like I was like, I was doing that.

01:12:32.220 I was doing dumb bitch shit like that when I was 22 too.

01:12:34.840 Yeah.

01:12:35.060 Yeah.

01:12:35.800 Especially like all of the relationships, all of it makes sense.

01:12:39.040 All of it, it's clicking.

01:12:40.600 It's starting to clock to me.

01:12:41.800 It's so crazy.

01:12:43.680 Like this, the one where they're in Italy and then Mike runs his head into the wall and

01:12:47.260 then he's just sitting with a neck brace.

01:12:49.240 That's cinema.

01:12:50.580 That's, that's a film right there.

01:12:52.000 I need to like go back and watch it because I, my frontal lobe was far from developed at

01:12:55.840 the time.

01:12:56.220 Like I was really young when it was like at its peak.

01:12:58.820 Yeah.

01:12:59.080 I need to like go back and actually like experience it.

01:13:01.820 That, that reality show changed my life.

01:13:04.740 Changed me for good.

01:13:05.920 If you will.

01:13:06.500 Wow.

01:13:07.000 Wicked for good.

01:13:07.860 Whoa.

01:13:09.560 Okay.

01:13:10.060 Last one back.

01:13:10.640 In 2018, you and your friends formed a boy band to release a single called Roast Town.

01:13:17.200 Yes, we did.

01:13:17.960 And then they said, photo below.

01:13:23.260 Yup.

01:13:24.260 Yup.

01:13:25.140 Yup.

01:13:26.180 Yup.

01:13:26.980 Yup.

01:13:27.540 Yup.

01:13:28.020 Yup.

01:13:28.600 Well, yes.

01:13:29.460 Well, yup.

01:13:32.380 Yup.

01:13:33.300 And you know what?

01:13:34.040 I would do it again.

01:13:35.860 Yeah.

01:13:36.180 So I, so, okay, here's the story.

01:13:38.680 Right.

01:13:39.040 Me and my friends is me, my friend Eden, who's in a lot of my videos.

01:13:42.340 Yeah.

01:13:42.760 And our other friend, Taryn.

01:13:45.060 And we loved, um, well, I just like love, uh, nineties and eighties R and B, like new Jack

01:13:52.940 swing.

01:13:53.460 Love.

01:13:53.920 But we became very obsessed with Bruno Mars's 24 carat magic.

01:14:00.720 Okay.

01:14:01.120 Album.

01:14:01.780 Honestly.

01:14:02.520 Really good.

01:14:03.200 A banger.

01:14:04.020 Like when you read like, if you want to talk about a banger, the chunky from that album,

01:14:10.260 I was on repeat for me, bitch.

01:14:12.100 Even finesse.

01:14:13.120 Like that is such a good song.

01:14:15.420 Like the songs are good on the floor on there in that one.

01:14:18.060 Yes.

01:14:18.440 Yeah.

01:14:18.620 Versace.

01:14:18.980 Yeah.

01:14:19.660 And he's not black.

01:14:21.160 No, but he's making black music.

01:14:24.120 And that's what that, and I'll let it happen.

01:14:27.020 Like anyway, so we were obsessed with that and we had made our own dances to the, those

01:14:32.240 songs.

01:14:34.100 Right.

01:14:35.140 Naturally.

01:14:35.580 And we were also 18, like we're not kids dancing for our aunties.

01:14:41.220 Right.

01:14:41.520 We were at like prom and we would be doing our like dance and everybody would go crazy.

01:14:46.380 Anyway, it was a different time.

01:14:48.640 And I, I pitched to them on my TV show, read it and weep.

01:14:54.700 I pitched to them that we should have our own boy band.

01:14:58.400 And so season two of read it and weep, read it and weep was about the story of us.

01:15:06.980 The genesis of your boy band.

01:15:09.100 Yes.

01:15:09.360 The genesis, the Hyundai genesis of roast town.

01:15:13.320 It was what our boy band was called.

01:15:14.880 And every year we made another song.

01:15:17.220 We made a song and a music video and we were going decade by decade.

01:15:21.000 So what you just showed me was our song, Laud Have Mercy.

01:15:24.440 Laud Have Mercy.

01:15:25.860 And that was the 80s.

01:15:28.600 Then we made a song called Done It Now.

01:15:30.560 That was the 90s.

01:15:32.040 And then we were going to make a song called Jelly for the 2000s era.

01:15:37.260 But then the pandemic hit and I got famous.

01:15:43.860 So I went solo.

01:15:47.660 Okay.

01:15:48.060 So naturally cut off the dead weight.

01:15:50.700 Exactly.

01:15:51.080 I trimmed the fat immediately.

01:15:52.360 Years later, I go, oh my God, now that I'm famous, I need to have my own solo career

01:15:58.840 and release music.

01:16:00.340 So I wrote a song called I Have a Thing and I used Jelly as the instrumental and like the

01:16:07.700 chorus.

01:16:08.240 I just changed all the lyrics.

01:16:10.460 So if you know my song, I Have a Thing, which plays at like a lot of my, the end of my

01:16:14.720 Bodashian videos when I leave because I have a thing.

01:16:17.040 Yes.

01:16:17.440 That is part of the Rosetown legacy.

01:16:21.260 You know what?

01:16:22.180 There's a Bowmanizer cinematic universe.

01:16:25.200 And it's real.

01:16:26.140 I'm like, I'm not kidding.

01:16:27.420 I was about to say, I love that you've built this world.

01:16:31.120 And nobody knows about it but me.

01:16:32.360 And I'm like, and you're like, well, that was in season two.

01:16:36.560 Yeah.

01:16:37.120 I'm obsessed with that.

01:16:38.660 Girl, I have.

01:16:39.380 You're so me.

01:16:39.940 I'm on, we're about to film season four of the Bodashians.

01:16:43.180 Season four of the Bodashians.

01:16:46.120 Nobody knows we're on season four, episode 67.

01:16:50.680 But we are.

01:16:52.340 I'll tell you this.

01:16:53.680 You're about to be blown away by season four.

01:16:56.320 Oh, you thought last season was good?

01:16:59.440 Get ready.

01:17:01.280 Get ready.

01:17:02.320 You're so me.

01:17:03.680 Like, it's crazy.

01:17:04.660 You're so me.

01:17:05.380 I love world building.

01:17:08.620 I think it is so fun.

01:17:10.420 It's so cool.

01:17:11.400 And for me, it's one thing to make these TikToks and be stupid.

01:17:15.080 Right.

01:17:15.480 Obviously, that's the point.

01:17:16.540 Yeah.

01:17:16.800 But what I get out of it is, like, banking content, turning it into a season, making a trailer for the season, having a song that, like, is the theme song for that season.

01:17:29.980 Right.

01:17:30.300 Like, that's the artistry that I feel like I love to put.

01:17:33.600 Getting to create.

01:17:34.380 Yes.

01:17:34.900 And, like, put something together.

01:17:36.720 Like, make something.

01:17:37.580 Yes.

01:17:38.060 It's beautiful.

01:17:38.920 I feel like that's what I – I hope people watch what I do and see something of that.

01:17:44.760 Yeah, absolutely.

01:17:45.560 And then they go, we want to give him a show on A24.

01:17:48.580 And we don't do shows, but now we're going to.

01:17:53.600 But now we're going to.

01:17:56.480 I think that is so fucking awesome.

01:17:58.740 Thank you.

01:17:59.060 Like, I think – and it's – I think it speaks to your ability to transcend social media in general because you are a creative.

01:18:06.080 You're an artist.

01:18:06.460 Thank you.

01:18:07.220 But, like, I have always – and I'll tell you this – I've always seen beneath, like, what a fucking star you are.

01:18:13.820 Like, genuinely, you are a triple threat, and I know that to be true.

01:18:16.640 Thank you.

01:18:16.980 But I think it's incredible that you find so much joy in just the creating of it all.

01:18:21.640 Yeah.

01:18:21.900 It's amazing.

01:18:22.600 And social media can make it hard to start to enjoy it once it becomes your full-time job.

01:18:26.920 Oh, yeah.

01:18:27.020 It can make it a little bit harder.

01:18:28.740 But you're not new to this.

01:18:29.840 You're true to this.

01:18:30.840 No.

01:18:31.300 I think that I – well, thank you for saying that.

01:18:33.440 Yeah.

01:18:34.140 I just really do love it so much.

01:18:37.480 And I found a way to love it despite all the noise of it being a career and it being, like, my day-to-day.

01:18:45.220 Mm-hmm.

01:18:45.660 But, like, I've learned how to, like – like, even what I just said where I bank content and turn it into a season, that was even born out of finding a way to do this that is accommodating for, like, my mental health.

01:18:56.980 Yeah.

01:18:57.240 Because I can't be thinking up genius ideas every week and editing them.

01:19:02.340 And running it into the ground.

01:19:03.420 And finding people to be available to film.

01:19:05.100 Right.

01:19:05.560 Like, if I can collect over time, then I'm creating for me.

01:19:09.620 Yeah.

01:19:09.900 Then it doesn't feel like – then I take the pressure off of it.

01:19:12.360 Yeah.

01:19:12.660 And you find the joy in it again.

01:19:14.140 Yes.

01:19:14.480 The love for it.

01:19:15.120 Yes.

01:19:15.140 Like, what we were talking about when we did it when we were little.

01:19:17.280 Exactly.

01:19:17.520 Like, purely for the love of the game.

01:19:18.660 Exactly.

01:19:18.820 Like, and that's, I think, what makes you such a beautiful artist.

01:19:22.140 But I also think that's why you're so successful at it.

01:19:24.280 And you're going to keep getting even more successful.

01:19:25.820 Thank you.

01:19:26.240 I think it's going to be amazing.

01:19:27.800 Thank you so much.

01:19:28.160 And I also – you're so me, making yourself the star in everything.

01:19:31.420 You're so fucking me, bitch.

01:19:32.640 I'm so inspired by, like, RuPaul.

01:19:35.240 Love.

01:19:35.500 If you watch RuPaul's Drag Race, it's a huge ad for his music.

01:19:39.320 Yeah.

01:19:40.080 His catchphrases, his sayings, drag con.

01:19:43.100 You're so right.

01:19:43.500 That's so true.

01:19:44.480 Like, that's how you have to be.

01:19:45.520 That's the RuPaul cinematic universe.

01:19:47.160 Yes.

01:19:47.520 You have to create your own world.

01:19:49.200 Absolutely.

01:19:49.560 Like, if you want a star in it, you have to create it sometimes.

01:19:51.900 Absolutely.

01:19:52.580 Especially when you look like us.

01:19:53.500 Like, essentially.

01:19:54.340 When you look like us.

01:19:56.860 That's what you have to do.

01:19:58.320 You do.

01:19:58.840 And you heard it right here on the comment section.

01:20:01.440 On the comment section.

01:20:03.380 The last one thing I'll tell you is, like, because it reminded me of this when you were

01:20:06.500 saying, oh, I created my whole own universe, which I think is amazing.

01:20:10.300 I was just joking about this with my sister and Carrie the other day.

01:20:14.080 But I was telling – we were talking about maladaptive daydreaming, like what we used to do when

01:20:16.980 we were kids.

01:20:17.800 When you need to daydream and you're like, oh, like, what would my partner look like?

01:20:21.240 Or what would my life look like?

01:20:22.800 Whatever.

01:20:23.260 Yeah.

01:20:23.600 But I was telling them every time I would maladaptive daydream like that, if I was listening to,

01:20:28.660 like, a romantic song or I watched, like, a movie or something and I'd be, like, daydreaming,

01:20:32.260 I was like – I always knew, like, if it was, like, a relationship thing, for example,

01:20:35.900 I knew a man was there.

01:20:38.540 I never saw a face.

01:20:39.960 In fact, if it was a movie, like, the camera would be over his shoulder.

01:20:42.640 And I was only ever looking at myself, like, in my daydreams.

01:20:46.120 And I was like – and honestly, like, I don't know much, but I know I always had French

01:20:49.960 tips.

01:20:51.180 Like, French tip nails.

01:20:53.160 Because I was like – and they both were laughing.

01:20:55.120 That is so interesting.

01:20:55.760 And I was like – I would just look at myself and I'd be like, wow, look at how beautiful

01:20:59.380 I am.

01:21:00.020 Oh, my God.

01:21:01.360 And I'm going to be so successful and gorgeous.

01:21:02.780 Do people not daydream and see it like that?

01:21:05.280 I guess not.

01:21:06.100 Because when I joke about it, everyone laughs and they're like, really?

01:21:08.760 And I go – I'm not kidding.

01:21:10.340 The man in the picture never had a face.

01:21:12.840 I never saw what he looked.

01:21:14.060 I'm sure he was cool.

01:21:15.640 But, like, for me, I'd only be looking at myself and I'd be like, God, I'm so stunning.

01:21:20.240 Yeah.

01:21:20.480 Oh, my God, look at my outfit.

01:21:21.240 You're seeing what he sees.

01:21:22.240 Yeah.

01:21:22.860 And you're thinking what he thinks.

01:21:24.400 Yeah, the female gaze.

01:21:25.380 Exactly.

01:21:25.660 Looking at myself.

01:21:26.420 Yep.

01:21:26.760 And I was literally like, God, oh, my God, wow, amazing.

01:21:29.500 And I would, like, watch women on TV because I'd always wanted to be in entertainment.

01:21:32.680 I wanted to be an actress or be something in entertainment.

01:21:35.180 Yeah.

01:21:35.440 And I would watch them on TV.

01:21:36.360 I'd be like, God, she's so beautiful.

01:21:38.740 And if I had that outfit on, you bitches wouldn't be able to handle it.

01:21:43.040 No.

01:21:43.280 You would not last a day looking at me.

01:21:45.620 Yep.

01:21:46.180 And so, like, when people are like, have you always been that confident?

01:21:50.580 I'm like, yes.

01:21:51.940 Yes.

01:21:52.460 Yes.

01:21:53.060 And that's what you remind me of me.

01:21:54.460 I had a TV show about my life in 12th grade.

01:22:01.160 Someone needs to get this on television.

01:22:02.660 I actually think about this all the time.

01:22:03.760 Like, I miss being that delusional.

01:22:05.580 Same.

01:22:06.020 I feel like when I started to do social media and, like, I turned this into a career, of

01:22:11.300 course, I've reaped a lot of success out of it.

01:22:13.820 Yeah, which is amazing.

01:22:14.720 Yeah.

01:22:15.280 But then part of it, part of what comes with that is, like, a modesty that you have to

01:22:20.220 have.

01:22:20.700 Right.

01:22:21.100 Because it's like, back in the day, so Roastown, for example, my boy band, it's like, we had

01:22:26.540 one song every year, but we made a big deal about it.

01:22:30.580 And then I would have launch parties.

01:22:32.940 And I'd invite 40 people that I barely knew to my home.

01:22:37.260 And we'd all be there to, like, celebrate the launch of our new song.

01:22:41.400 And it's like, but now I feel like I don't celebrate these big things that my wins, because

01:22:47.500 I'm like, it just, I have to be chill and I have to be cool and coy about it.

01:22:53.320 But I miss being delusional.

01:22:54.860 Yeah, for real.

01:22:55.700 The delusion fuels everything.

01:22:58.360 Yeah, I agree.

01:22:59.240 And it's like, you need that, especially to make it in this industry.

01:23:02.620 Like, and especially if you're sitting at any intersection of oppression.

01:23:06.500 Yeah.

01:23:06.760 Like, you have to imagine, like, that's me.

01:23:09.160 Yes.

01:23:09.460 That could be me.

01:23:10.360 Like, you can't be like, oh, if I looked like her, that would be me.

01:23:13.380 Yeah.

01:23:13.720 You have to be like, no, that could be me.

01:23:15.780 And it will be me.

01:23:16.780 And I'm going to make sure it's me.

01:23:17.920 Yes.

01:23:18.240 And that's how I've always felt, too, like, about myself.

01:23:20.400 I was like, I don't know.

01:23:21.920 I just like, I'm just so awesome.

01:23:23.760 Like, I've never, like, I just think I'm so incredibly amazing.

01:23:26.320 Like, I just think that's so awesome.

01:23:28.060 Like, that's how I've always thought about myself as a child.

01:23:30.380 And then, obviously, as you get older, it starts, it wanes.

01:23:33.640 Yeah, like, life just starts to hit.

01:23:34.920 Yeah.

01:23:35.240 And then, obviously, when I started doing this, it was very similar, too.

01:23:38.340 It's like this weird, like, expectation that you would be extremely like, oh, whatever.

01:23:43.920 Don't even care.

01:23:44.880 Yeah.

01:23:45.340 Or like, oh, I don't even know why I'm here.

01:23:47.900 Like, when I joke about that, I'm like, what am I doing in this room?

01:23:51.080 But that's just because I make wiener jokes on the internet.

01:23:53.000 That's not me saying I don't deserve to be in that room.

01:23:55.140 Exactly.

01:23:55.560 It's more so like, I'm like, this is an odd pairing putting me in here.

01:23:58.500 Yeah.

01:23:58.860 That's how I feel now.

01:24:00.820 Yeah.

01:24:01.460 Yeah.

01:24:01.700 This is a strange.

01:24:02.300 Sometimes that is tea.

01:24:03.180 Yeah.

01:24:03.960 Yeah.

01:24:04.200 But I think other than that, I'm very like, when they're like, did you know you were going

01:24:08.000 to be like something?

01:24:09.700 I even answered a question about that at that breakfast I went to this morning.

01:24:13.140 Like, they were like, did you always know?

01:24:14.360 And I go, I mean, I could have never guessed that TikTok would be the thing.

01:24:18.140 Yeah.

01:24:18.840 But I did tell her.

01:24:19.760 I was like, but I can tell you honestly, like, I always knew I was awesome.

01:24:23.100 Yeah.

01:24:23.500 I knew I was going to end up somewhere awesome.

01:24:25.040 Absolutely.

01:24:25.520 Wherever it was.

01:24:26.680 Absolutely.

01:24:27.320 But I think you need that.

01:24:28.580 Yeah.

01:24:28.820 You need people to be like, I love myself and I think I'm awesome and I'm going to do

01:24:32.540 great.

01:24:32.840 Yeah.

01:24:33.280 It's beautiful.

01:24:33.840 I think I just, yeah, ever since I was a kid, I was just destined to believe I was the

01:24:39.620 main character.

01:24:40.620 Right.

01:24:40.680 I just think that is, that's what I was doing when I'm alone in my living room dancing

01:24:44.800 to Britney Spears.

01:24:46.000 It's like, yeah, I'm performing.

01:24:47.780 Right.

01:24:48.100 Like, I'm performing to Soul Dao Show and this is my tour.

01:24:51.040 This is like the North American leg of my tour.

01:24:53.400 Yeah.

01:24:53.540 And it's, but it's like, I've just, I have to remember to carry over that delusion.

01:24:59.740 As you get older too.

01:25:00.920 Yeah.

01:25:01.260 Yeah.

01:25:01.660 Especially doing this.

01:25:02.760 Eric.

01:25:03.380 Yes.

01:25:03.800 Love Eric.

01:25:04.300 Every year he has a word that for his new year.

01:25:08.600 Oh yes.

01:25:09.280 Okay.

01:25:09.680 And he always asks me what my word is and I go, Eric, I don't play your games.

01:25:13.420 But I feel like this year I'm consciously making delusion my word.

01:25:20.120 Oh, that's so cute.

01:25:21.020 I love that.

01:25:21.760 Because I just, I really need to rediscover the delusion of it all.

01:25:24.420 Yes.

01:25:24.540 Like I need to, especially moving to LA.

01:25:27.200 Yeah, that's true.

01:25:28.300 Because I feel like it's easy to, when I was in Toronto, like it's easy to feel a little

01:25:33.220 bit more delusional there because it's not the entertainment industry.

01:25:36.860 Yeah.

01:25:37.040 You're far away from it.

01:25:37.860 It's just so far removed from it.

01:25:39.240 And now that I'm like on the ground here, it feels like, okay, I have to stay true to

01:25:45.100 the delusion.

01:25:46.040 You have to revisit that.

01:25:47.060 And the antics.

01:25:47.640 Yeah.

01:25:48.040 And that's good.

01:25:48.700 That brought me here.

01:25:49.200 And that's good.

01:25:49.760 I think revisiting and checking in with yourself like that is essential as an artist, especially.

01:25:54.300 Yes.

01:25:54.720 It like reinvigorates your passion too.

01:25:56.600 Like it's more inspiring and everything.

01:25:59.320 Yeah.

01:25:59.500 Like even for me, like obviously making fun of men, I'll still do that.

01:26:03.240 But like, I feel like I've pretty much proven I can do it.

01:26:06.280 So it's like, I'm good there.

01:26:08.060 Like I don't, I'll do it every now and then, but like, that's not what I've always wanted

01:26:11.960 to do.

01:26:12.700 It's just something I'm good at.

01:26:13.800 Yeah.

01:26:14.000 And it's not something I like want to do forever, all the time, always.

01:26:18.100 Exactly.

01:26:19.020 Well, I don't remember where I was at, but I want to end here.

01:26:24.800 I love you.

01:26:25.880 And I think you're a fucking star.

01:26:27.460 Thank you.

01:26:27.860 I love me too.

01:26:28.620 And I'm so glad that I get to experience your genius.

01:26:33.600 My God.

01:26:34.000 Thank you.

01:26:34.300 In person.

01:26:35.140 Yeah.

01:26:35.240 Oh my God.

01:26:35.760 Yeah.

01:26:36.480 I love you.

01:26:38.320 Thank you.

01:26:38.880 Back.

01:26:39.400 Thank you.

01:26:40.520 And I genuinely love you.

01:26:42.600 I feel like you just have such beautiful, colorful energy.

01:26:46.820 Thank you.

01:26:47.920 From the moment I met you, I was like, oh, what a wonderful person to be around.

01:26:52.280 Thank you.

01:26:52.940 I'm so glad.

01:26:53.380 So thank you for doing that.

01:26:54.580 I did not get that vibe when I met you first, but I did get, this bitch is funny.

01:26:59.040 I'm just kidding.

01:27:00.600 I'm kidding.

01:27:01.220 I obviously, I knew you were fucking awesome.

01:27:03.600 And obviously, a lot of the people I love, loved you.

01:27:06.000 So I had nothing but high hopes going in.

01:27:08.440 I was like, you're going to be hilarious and amazing.

01:27:10.320 I had a lot to live up to.

01:27:11.500 Yeah.

01:27:11.780 And honestly, you did.

01:27:12.780 You shattered that ceiling, girl.

01:27:14.600 Thank God.

01:27:15.160 You did such a great job.

01:27:16.160 I can breathe.

01:27:16.860 And everybody I know that loves you is in love with you.

01:27:19.520 So I feel like that's a good sign.

01:27:20.740 A lot of love for me in East Street.

01:27:23.720 Get with it or get left behind.

01:27:25.620 That's exciting.

01:27:27.500 Thank you so much for coming on the show again.

01:27:29.160 I fucking love you.

01:27:29.860 Thank you.

01:27:30.320 I love you too.

01:27:30.840 You're the best.

01:27:31.640 And for those who may be like the two people that maybe don't know, where can everybody

01:27:35.380 find you?

01:27:36.260 At Bowmanizer on everything.

01:27:38.540 Yes.

01:27:39.300 Anything else you would like to promote?

01:27:42.920 No, I don't think so.

01:27:44.280 I just want to say, you know, I hope that we find peace in the world going forward.

01:27:52.360 Beautiful.

01:27:53.580 Especially here on the comment section.

01:27:56.220 Here on the comment section.

01:27:59.040 Yeah.

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The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - December 17, 2025

LET’S! Ft. Boman Martinez-Reid ｜ Episode 200

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