The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - MR. POPULAR Ft. Kyle MacLachlan ｜ Episode 196

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00:00:48.200 gonna go to the gym i booked it i gotta go to the gym i can't go to the gym have to work with my

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00:01:01.580 hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section joe starring me your fave

00:01:14.100 everybody knows me who cares about me on to the guest today we have a living icon a living legend

00:01:19.940 the one the only kyle mclaughlin

00:01:22.400 oh my god and you pronounced my name perfectly i've got to say well done period thank you not

00:01:30.660 easy i practiced yeah over and over and over again i was like gotta get it right gotta get it right

00:01:35.800 i'm honored to have you i'm very very pleased to be here thank you yes oh my god of course what an

00:01:43.420 honor to have you in the stew thank you and we also did meet last night for the first time we did 0.95

00:01:48.500 at brittie broski's royal court party what a crazy event that was what a stupid sentence 0.99

00:01:54.400 goes without saying um and what an amazing house that we i know i don't know the history of it but 0.73

00:02:04.060 it's been around for a while and it's yeah really it's really suited the the whole vibe i agree there's

00:02:09.700 a lot of stuffed animals in there like like taxidermied yes that were spooky yes spooky to

00:02:15.600 look at yes i took a picture in front of the white fox i think i think it was a fox giant creature

00:02:21.600 yeah my sister took a picture in front of the zebra oh my giant one at the entrance yeah i walked right

00:02:27.380 past you walked right past i didn't even notice a zebra that's what happens it's like oh it's a zebra

00:02:32.000 yeah yeah oh well see those every day you know how have you been kyle i've been pretty good i've

00:02:38.940 been really busy you have yeah i'm so i say that with a surprise you're real mr popular i'm you are

00:02:44.680 you're all over the place girl mr popular which is fun because i was not mr popular in school but

00:02:51.040 so it's nice to be mr now i bet you they feel silly for not making you mr popular i should have won the

00:02:56.140 mr popular contest i've been having so much fun i've been having so much fun we're doing my have

00:03:01.060 my little podcast as well and uh and i've been just enjoying it interviewing talking with people

00:03:07.400 getting to learn about a whole culture or a whole generation other generations i should say that

00:03:12.580 that i am really fascinated with so i think that's amazing thank you well i know you obviously are a

00:03:18.780 very successful esteemed actor but how does that differ from hosting for you like do are they like

00:03:24.700 kind of apples and oranges do you kind of use pull from one i do a pull yeah definitely because

00:03:29.720 we have i mean a variety of people on comedians musicians actors entrepreneurs um but i i approach

00:03:37.640 it from a creative the creative side love so it's like i'm asking them what is it what's the process

00:03:42.420 what's important to them um where the how they first started you know what was the impulse that came and

00:03:47.960 and kind of how they work and how they create love and um yeah so it's it's fast it's not a it's not a

00:03:54.600 gotcha kind of show it's not a gossipy show really it's just like tell me about you and and we get

00:03:59.320 into some and i really the conversation just wanders you know and we get into some really

00:04:02.940 some some little heavy stuff sometimes but mostly just fun and light-hearted and and i i feel like i

00:04:08.460 come away with a much better sense of who they are and hopefully the audience does as well i love that

00:04:12.280 that's very similar to this show too i feel like i i even feel when i've pitched to have like talent

00:04:18.100 like yourself on like people who are more traditional hollywood i've also said the same thing it's not a

00:04:22.740 gotcha show it's more so like a fun little talk a little chat we can learn a little bit more about

00:04:28.380 each other but that's the fun in it letting it kind of take its own life yeah as you chat and get

00:04:32.960 to know someone yeah that's beautiful so that's been really that's been really fun occupying a lot

00:04:37.700 of time right now the podcast called what are we even doing and we ask that question and we never

00:04:42.180 answer it but we have a lot of fun doing it works perfectly it's perfect the unanswerable

00:04:47.380 question um and then i've got a couple things that have been out um we just the lowdown we just

00:04:53.320 aired our eight episodes of the lowdown with with ethan hawk which was went really well so cool

00:04:57.920 that's really a cool show yeah and then we start the fallout craziness here very soon yeah busy busy

00:05:05.380 busy i'm on a press press i'm pressed the press run of a lifetime yeah look at my eyes you can see

00:05:10.280 how much sleep i'm getting no it's like not happening um i know you said you weren't mr popular

00:05:14.740 in high school however i would like to know how did you get were you a theater kid what's your what's

00:05:21.120 your tea when you're in high school yeah yeah it was um well it was um difficult not difficult to

00:05:27.480 explain but there was a there was a drama department in my high school okay there were drama classes but

00:05:32.900 no one took the drama classes okay the real nerds took drama classes just people you know in the hallway

00:05:39.040 you just don't want to be seen walking with them so they were they were really that lay on the on the

00:05:42.560 edge but all of the cool kids did the musical and we did a musical in the spring and we did a fall

00:05:49.180 play interesting so it was it was considered no that was okay and so i i and i just i loved it so

00:05:55.780 i did yeah the fall play every year i did a musical every year um and so it kind of was my thing in high

00:06:02.900 school i was there was you know you have to find that thing that you're good at yeah somehow it's

00:06:07.860 like oh you're you're that person you know you're looking for an identity really and that was kind

00:06:13.280 of my thing um and and uh and then carried through into college although when i got to college i was

00:06:19.320 like ah i don't think i can do this this is a fun side yeah you know what i mean yeah totally i gotta

00:06:25.360 find a career i gotta find you know what i'm gonna do stable yeah traditional yeah and i was like

00:06:30.240 okay and and the more i tried to dig into that the more i was like but i really i always like oh

00:06:35.180 i'm just gonna take one one drama class you know what i mean at least one just to scratch the

00:06:39.460 just one yeah and uh it pulled me back in and i and i just uh it it just became clear to me after

00:06:47.280 a couple semesters like you know this is kind of where i'm supposed to be i think yeah so i just

00:06:52.900 how did you like uh how do you like stage acting versus like tv film right how do you like it very

00:06:59.580 different in some ways and then it's real similar i mean you're approaching a script the same way

00:07:03.460 you're working on the character you know you have this you do have an extended rehearsal period which

00:07:07.620 is wonderful to really explore and figure things out yeah but it's um and then you have the

00:07:11.840 performance which is not stand-up necessarily i think it's as close to stand-up as you can get i think

00:07:17.520 stand-up is like the most difficult and i've never done it i've been just too scared to ever do stand-up

00:07:22.800 but in on stage you know you're in front of the audience you're i'm aware of the audience out

00:07:27.940 there and you have this sort of um i mean it's a real high you know and you're control you're kind

00:07:34.340 of controlling things you know yeah and you ride this energy and and that's why at the end of a

00:07:40.500 play you need to go out and get a glass of wine because you gotta calm down so i gotta de-escalate

00:07:44.620 a little bit yeah yeah and then film is so interesting you know film is like a full 12-hour day

00:07:49.540 yeah or television and and then and it's kind of like short bursts yeah like you you know you sprint

00:07:54.360 and then you then you walk for a while and you sprint and you walk and yeah like some of the

00:07:58.480 people i've had on the show that are actors they've told me like acting on stage is like no feeling

00:08:02.560 like it like it's completely different feeling when you're working with the room yes the energy

00:08:07.460 of the room and implement do you have a preference um i have i mean i love stage i haven't done stage

00:08:13.020 and since since the early 2000s um but it would be fun to go back again it has to be kind of the

00:08:18.620 right play yeah well you're in that era of your life where you can you could pick and choose well

00:08:23.360 because you're mr successful mr not mr now real mr popular now yeah oh my gosh if only mr popular

00:08:30.520 hadn't come younger but um it would be it would be fun to do but it's you know it's it's also a lot of

00:08:35.720 work i mean it's it's great but it's um you know it's two hours roughly of just kind of

00:08:41.840 you know head down let's go yeah and you can't stop yeah no there's no retake there's no go do

00:08:48.060 over you know and i think after a while you get really comfortable with the idea that you're gonna

00:08:52.320 do it one way and then you can do it again in front of a camera and you can try another thing

00:08:56.260 you can try these different things you know which i like i like the freshness of that oh that's true

00:09:01.060 huh like kind of adapting a little bit trying new things that's fun yeah it's really fun yeah it's

00:09:06.700 really fun to experiment a little bit you know within you know you got to kind of stay within the

00:09:09.940 confines of the character right but also ideally because you're working with someone

00:09:14.280 um and i was talking about the lowdown earlier with like with ethan hawk so we work very similar

00:09:19.160 so there's you don't really know where the scene is going to track yeah you know it's going to

00:09:23.220 sort of go in this direction but you're like how are we going to get there we're going to figure

00:09:26.740 it out in this take yeah and he's up for that and i'm up for that and that's the fun that's like

00:09:31.500 the the coolest part of it i would say it is it is it's those moments in front of the camera

00:09:35.560 very cool when you were out of college like what was like a gig you got rear like really feeling

00:09:43.020 like i think i'm going to do this for the rest of my life it was it was when i when i went to school

00:09:48.940 trained for repertory theater um my first job out of school was at the shakespeare festival in ashland

00:09:55.200 oregon so on the main stage there are 1200 seat theater playing romeo and romeo and juliet okay

00:10:01.780 it was crazy that is so cool and i was like oh this is real yeah you know it was like and then

00:10:09.380 then you sort of get into this routine and i i love the whole routine very cool kind of preparation

00:10:15.100 during the day performing at night going out afterwards getting a bite to eat you know with

00:10:20.220 some friends yeah the vibe is very fun how was shakespeare acting shakespeare i feel like that's

00:10:25.160 heavy heavy hitter it's heavy but you know the language is so beautiful yeah um and some

00:10:31.620 plays are more you can comprehend more than others romeo and juliet it's pretty available

00:10:36.360 i mean there's language there's turns terms and turns of phrase in there that are sometimes hard

00:10:41.640 to kind of figure out but for the most part it's pretty understandable right and and it's just

00:10:48.520 i don't know i i love it yeah i love it and so it's like poetry you know when you learn it

00:10:53.080 you never forget it yeah totally so you know but soft what like through yonder window breaks it

00:10:58.060 is the east and juliet is the sun arise fair sun and kill the envious moon who is already sick and 1.00

00:11:02.960 failed with grief that thou art made art far more fair than she period it just goes on and on and on

00:11:07.780 you know it just never leaves your head yeah it's like a song almost it's like a song because it's

00:11:12.460 seeing it it sits in there so beautifully yes that's a really really good comparison what's the

00:11:17.180 most challenging role you've ever had whether it's stage tv film or it could be one in each

00:11:24.060 i think i did the twin peaks uh the original and then we had twin peaks the return and i played three

00:11:32.160 different characters and two of the characters i didn't know if i was going to be able to really

00:11:39.220 pull them off one in particular who was um absolutely psychotic and um very very very scary

00:11:47.680 which i'd never done before in my life and i said i don't know if i can

00:11:50.960 cross over i don't know if i want to cross over into that and uh but i said if i don't it's not

00:11:57.540 going to work yeah so off i went yeah and it was very powerful and also like i could not wait to

00:12:08.420 take off the character and leave him in my dressing room get back to yourself yes yes and it was one

00:12:15.660 of those things where i really was like no no he has to stay here because i don't like i don't i

00:12:20.340 appreciate the energy it's a powerful energy i said i don't want to be in that energy that's good that you

00:12:24.220 can have that differentiation though so important i'm sure it's really hard especially when you're

00:12:28.260 like deep in it yeah character yeah so that was probably your your most difficult it was really

00:12:33.920 challenging really challenging everything is challenging to a certain degree yeah um because

00:12:39.860 i love getting into the complexity of the personality and digging around you know and sort of figuring

00:12:45.780 things out um and hopefully bringing that you know yeah to life yeah to life in in for audiences

00:12:53.060 yeah when you're looking at roles like do you have like a similar method every single time does it

00:12:58.520 kind of vary depending on the project it's pretty similar it's like so we'll start with the blueprint

00:13:02.820 which is the script and then just and then just really get into that very very very intensely so

00:13:10.040 um and taking it apart it's like i like pulling it's like pulling apart i don't know like fabric or

00:13:15.600 something you know and then you're going to reassemble it of course but i love that process and then

00:13:20.700 then it's like learning everything bringing everything in and then kind of letting it

00:13:26.860 go away and then you start because now you're starting the scene with your scene partner and

00:13:35.300 you're not thinking about what you're doing you're thinking what what are they doing and what's

00:13:40.000 happening and so you're suddenly now the what you've done is no longer here it's out there and that's

00:13:46.080 again talking about ethan i love that because he's going to throw something to me that i i

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00:14:05.720 landrover.ca i don't know what that is and then i'm gonna take that and i'm gonna throw it back to

00:14:12.820 him in a different way like tennis so much like that yeah because you don't know kind of how it's

00:14:16.940 going to come at you right because reading it on the paper is different from like seeing it being

00:14:21.340 performed live yeah interesting i'm asking so many questions about that study because i am getting

00:14:27.960 into acting good so i'm venturing into it now okay dipping my toes if you will yes um done lovely i can't

00:14:34.720 see them because they're lovely thank you kyle i assure you they're lovely i can tell you confidently

00:14:39.760 i believe you um i am venturing into acting i've been doing quite a few reads and stuff

00:14:44.580 haven't booked anything yet okay but that's okay i'm just getting i'm just getting all all my bearings

00:14:50.860 yeah are you working with someone you have yeah yeah i do i have an i have an acting coach yeah very

00:14:55.480 important i did a read recently i honestly it's funny because like the first experience i have i had with

00:15:00.880 an acting coach was not very positive um only because i felt like as soon as she heard where i

00:15:07.920 like got my start from she kind of wrote me off a little bit and she was like no tick tock okay and i

00:15:14.940 was like well yeah that's like how i became a name but like obviously my my thought is like if i was just

00:15:21.760 on some bullshit like i'm i have a lot of followers i can be in a movie if i was like that why would i be 0.83

00:15:27.140 hiring a coach and she was not cheap so i was like baby why would i be paying for 45 minutes of 0.98

00:15:32.440 your time if i um was like arrogant about it i guess yeah or not really really wanting to learn

00:15:37.660 right i was like and that's what i told her i said i really want to learn like my ego is not too big i

00:15:42.280 know i don't know anything the only characters i've ever played right now have been myself like

00:15:47.140 in commercials and stuff so i haven't really done professional acting at all so that's why i want to

00:15:52.300 like you know i like to learn i'm a virgo so i love to learn new things which makes me know it all

00:15:57.460 and that's obviously because i do know it all so obviously this is how i add more to my repertoire yes

00:16:01.940 i study and i learn everything makes complete sense okay so my my experience with her wasn't

00:16:07.860 very positive but then i met with someone else who's now my acting coach and he was he's been so

00:16:12.100 wonderful and i did like a read literally not too long ago like a week or two ago um i did a live

00:16:17.500 read and um i was kind of nervous for it because the last callback i had with a live read i did not

00:16:23.160 get and so i was a little nervous but when i got on with my coach he was like um he goes okay i read

00:16:29.520 through everything like i think i think you're gonna nail it i think it's gonna be fine right um 0.95

00:16:34.100 and then he was like but honestly like fuck it let's just have fun let's go in there and have a 0.97

00:16:39.380 good time and i was like okay he's like let's take pressure off yeah let's go in because i studied 0.96

00:16:44.320 the material and like i was like i was going over and over i had props i had all that stuff

00:16:48.440 yeah and he was like it's gonna be okay like let's just go in and have a good time it's so nice to

00:16:53.040 hear that yeah let it all go because i think that's so important right because it's it takes the fun out

00:16:57.200 of it i feel like i'll i'll like um almost choke myself out with like nerves when i'm um which i never

00:17:03.760 really get nervous doing like i'll sit down here and tell people to suck my wiener for 200 episodes 0.90

00:17:08.600 as you heard we're almost there and and i'm like whatever um but then as soon as i get in

00:17:13.540 front of someone like um what's the line sorry like i felt so it's hard yeah it's hard it's hard

00:17:19.220 to pull the lines up i mean it's not easy especially if you've been you worked on something and it's a

00:17:23.160 new environment new situation right and it's like yeah because you get flustered the same thing happens

00:17:27.200 to me i stuff goes like uh forgot my line i don't know what am i supposed to say here so but i love

00:17:33.400 that i love that you that you found someone because that's that you're not going to get the right

00:17:37.880 person the first time right you know i know um you have to sort of it has to be a relationship

00:17:42.880 you know it has to work totally um and you have to feel comfortable and and i like the idea that

00:17:47.620 that he just said to you let's go out and have a great time i reminded me of something as you were

00:17:52.160 talking i remember when i did so i did dune and i met ken mcmillan and ken mcmillan uh wonderful

00:17:58.360 was a wonderful actor um and we i actually took a scene class from him after i came back from from that i

00:18:04.860 said i wanted to work with him and he was teaching this class uh and he said you know when he when

00:18:08.820 he on stage in particular but even in film he said before he starts the scene he could be and he was

00:18:16.480 speaking about being backstage so he's being backstage and he's talking to one of the one of

00:18:20.320 the grips guys or something like that just and his cue is coming up and he can hear it and he's

00:18:24.480 talking to him about you know whatever it is like a ball game or or something you know something

00:18:28.560 he cooked the other night it was a member and that he goes right onto stage just carries that

00:18:34.140 right with him so he has a real he's a real connection and he just brings it right into the

00:18:39.040 stage and he starts the scene and he's carrying that as if it's had a life had before you know

00:18:43.740 what i mean i thought that is so brilliant instead of like standing off stage and getting yourself all

00:18:47.320 up and getting ready that's so true so it's kind of what you were i think a little bit of what you

00:18:51.540 were saying yeah it's almost like distraction to keep from yes and just get into the vibe and then go

00:18:57.520 yeah it's like so it's more natural yeah rolls off that's so true i'm gonna take that yeah i bought

00:19:02.820 i've always i've never forgotten it i'm gonna steal it from you we steal and then when i win an oscar 0.57

00:19:07.000 and be like you know one time i had this scene partner i just tell your whole story i was sitting

00:19:11.440 with this one of my guests i forgot his name god the name escapes me popular all right somebody i don't

00:19:17.160 know maybe that's so true i love that i think i i think that that kind of energy helps me

00:19:27.120 put less pressure on it because i feel like when i am like you said a little bit more relaxed like

00:19:33.160 he was saying i just kind of carried that energy with me yeah i feel like it does perform a little

00:19:37.480 bit better when i'm on edge i'm a little yeah like because you know why because people are like what's

00:19:42.600 you what what's you gonna do next yeah you don't know they're like they lean in and it's like

00:19:47.100 what's going on you know they want to know well obviously pivoting but not really i know you were

00:19:53.140 on overcompensating how was your experience doing that overcompensating we love benny and marybeth

00:19:58.180 here they are the best and speaking of someone who came from the world of social yes and has like

00:20:03.440 moved through to create characters and now writing and now he's got a show and it's like you know

00:20:08.540 let's don't count that out and i'll tell you this because you're his like pseudo dad yeah um so you

00:20:13.840 can pass the message along but he cast almost all of my friends and not me you know so benny i don't 0.92

00:20:20.460 want to make you feel like shit buddy but benny i'm i just telling your dad on you yeah i'll talk 0.93

00:20:24.920 to you right now son we're gonna have go to your room go to your room yeah go to your room there you 0.98

00:20:31.620 go and cast me in season two thank you very much there you go but how was your experience working

00:20:36.100 on overcompensating it was fun i feel like it was super fun yeah just so just delightful joyful

00:20:41.960 um the character that he that benny wrote for me is as his dad was very interesting and funny

00:20:48.380 and he let me get away with some crazy shtick and comedy and stuff which i don't get a chance

00:20:53.720 to do that much i know i was gonna ask i was like how do you like doing comedy i love it yeah i really

00:20:58.240 do i love it i love sort of a serious comedy yeah you know comedy situation comedy because of you

00:21:03.620 know i'm just an odd guy um and i really loved i love benny so much i know the experience was great

00:21:10.780 he's wonderful and amazing and very talented a very talented writer and actor obviously yeah he's

00:21:16.840 gonna have to be on season two it has to happen i know and now that we put the pressure on

00:21:20.840 i'd like to think i'm cast already go on and cook me cook me up a character benny i'm waiting for it

00:21:26.840 so i'll wait i'll send you notes when i have them yes perfect i can't wait oh i can't just see can't

00:21:32.700 wait to see what he comes up for you i hope he does right i i also do you know i feel like i feel

00:21:37.220 like benny had you in mind when he wrote it to be quite honest with you i think maybe yeah i think

00:21:42.620 maybe because the voice was like oh i think i relate to this guy i think i understand

00:21:47.420 what this is like well it's kind of weird because i mean i have a son my son is 17

00:21:52.400 and you know playing a parent i've could i played a parent before i had children yeah um is different

00:22:01.780 than playing a parent when you have you know when you have a child you know i mean it's definitely you

00:22:05.100 can do all the substitution in the world you want but you just there's just no way to completely

00:22:09.740 understand that journey right without having gone through it as a you know in in real life

00:22:14.560 yeah absolutely so and you there's just nothing that you don't do for your kids you know and um

00:22:21.020 totally and so that way that was the way it was with benny and at the same time the dynamic

00:22:25.300 between he and and marybeth was just um in from my point of view was like benny was the star

00:22:31.460 the superstar marybeth was like oh yes sorry um i didn't see you there you know it was like

00:22:37.380 you know and i just said oh i love that dynamic so much he's just very you know he just it was

00:22:43.220 very clever yeah i agree i was i was gonna say too is there anything now since you're at this

00:22:48.660 successful stage in your career is there anything that has to stand out on a script to you for it

00:22:53.020 to like speak to you do you kind of just he kind of come and go does it move you two two things one

00:22:58.760 are you moved when you read it and you're like oh wow i'm really i'm in the story and second of all

00:23:03.880 when i look at the characters or something is it kind of what am i can i bring something to this

00:23:07.140 character right it's like i don't connect with this character or i don't really understand this

00:23:11.740 character and you know you if that happens then you're kind of like wait just a second yeah so

00:23:18.400 maybe maybe this isn't something that i should do or maybe it's not right or interesting or maybe i

00:23:23.040 just haven't kind of understood it yeah scene yeah i need to see a little bit more yeah and i work

00:23:27.820 with i have a scene coach that i work with script script coach so we work through stuff together

00:23:32.620 mostly material um and just look at it and and and just kind of and talk talk through it talk through

00:23:39.880 it very slowly and carefully and really think about each moment each word kind of you know gets pretty

00:23:47.480 serious yeah totally um and uh but it's been really helpful i love that you still have a coach too

00:23:53.480 i think that's wonderful keep the shot the the sauce sharp yeah yeah no it's it's that and it's

00:23:59.000 also just you know it's when you commit the time it's like okay we're gonna i've booked you for two

00:24:03.640 and a half hours and it's like i'm gonna do the work i'm a little bit like that because it's on the

00:24:08.720 cow right yeah that's true gonna go to the gym i booked it i gotta go to the gym go to the gym have

00:24:14.900 to work with my coach yes yeah shoot oh i hate when that happens no i booked time to walk my dog i guess

00:24:23.180 well to kind of pivot but not really i did tell you this this fun thing at the party last night

00:24:30.380 that one of my best friends carry her mom jennifer yes jennifer pritchett realtor is what i call her 1.00

00:24:36.680 because that is her instagram name so that whole thing yeah jennifer i thought i had a long

00:24:41.920 instagram oh my god love her okay she's a huge fan of the comment section i have i have referenced

00:24:48.000 jen on the show a couple times because she is so fun and she's a hoot okay but more specifically 0.99

00:24:52.600 she's a huge fan of the comment section she's a die hard fan of you and i had to tell you last

00:24:58.280 night because we have to shout out jen yeah and tell her kyle jen i did tell kyle about you and he

00:25:05.260 does say he loves you too right kyle i love you so much and i'm actually looking for a house so i don't

00:25:10.380 know so jennifer pritchett realtor is your girl and and honestly what's funny is carrie was telling me

00:25:17.680 and then just i mean that's her whole name jennifer pritchett realtor i literally talked

00:25:22.240 about her i'm like jennifer pritchett realtor yeah obviously i know her that's her whole name 0.91

00:25:25.000 obviously yeah her middle name's pritchett her last name's realtor exactly what are the odds

00:25:29.740 that she became a realtor jpr thankfully thankfully she became a realtor but she's a die hard twin 0.97

00:25:36.560 peaks fan like twin peaks is her north star i love that and carrie was even telling me in the room

00:25:41.740 that her family she comes from a legacy of twin peaks lovers including her grandma and her aunt

00:25:48.320 wow and they all did you show them the picture do you want to show them the picture okay yeah let's

00:25:54.800 show them the picture i want to show i love this they have um apparently jen has been she's friends 0.59

00:26:01.180 with on facebook with other people from twin peaks you're her only one she's not friends with oh

00:26:05.500 facebook we have to change that right now they were on the news locally in baltimore and they're

00:26:09.760 invited to the twin peaks cast party because they made like uh when twin peaks was canceled they

00:26:14.140 like lost their minds they made a video and submitted it to me oh my god i love this because it's old

00:26:20.140 but i am here because of you that's what it is but that is literally her your mom aunt and grandma

00:26:27.520 yeah grandmother and aunt i love that and we know it's legit because it's time stamped

00:26:32.100 right here there's evidence right there of twin peaks biggest fan she's like this is like a

00:26:38.460 generational loop i'm closing oh this is awesome by telling you i had to tell you we had to shout

00:26:45.440 out jen obviously yeah because she is she was gutted she could not be here today all right she was

00:26:51.360 gutted and you know what's funny is i'll come back we'll have to when she comes to town you have to

00:26:55.300 come back i would love that honestly like i want to say a couple months ago whenever jen was in town 0.95

00:27:00.620 she came and watched us yeah and she's in baltimore am i right no from baltimore now she lives in

00:27:05.860 north carolina she lives north carolina one of my favorite states that is jen did you hear that

00:27:11.380 crazy where can i ask where whereabouts in north carolina wilmington in wilmington wait you said

00:27:18.120 this last night yeah we talked about this last night i did yeah where we shot blue velvet yes

00:27:21.860 and and and not even an hour away from varnum town which is this crazy podcast i did this is on the

00:27:30.000 coast you know you don't have to go to varnum town but we did a podcast about this little town that was

00:27:35.420 this drug smuggling operation it was a huge thing on the coast yeah you see and we're turning we're

00:27:40.240 going to try and turn it into a series and i bet i bet jen knows all about it honestly she knows 0.91

00:27:43.700 everything she's the funniest person alive like we have a lot of isms from jen okay here's a perfect

00:27:49.600 one one time she called carrie or carrie called her and was like oh do you want to come with me 0.63

00:27:54.040 to this wedding like this weekend and she was like well what time because i am volunteering at the

00:27:59.080 blueberry festival so what time and then i am going to a cookout later so actually i'm busy

00:28:04.520 so if you ever want to go to a blueberry festival and buy a house you have jen i know jen is jen is my 0.52

00:28:14.160 person that's your main girl so funny blueberry festival i mean i guess that is important

00:28:19.700 right i don't know i mean more important than a wedding i'd say yeah i'd argue honestly i mean

00:28:27.700 well could you i mean maybe yeah you could depending on the wedding like a couple months ago when she

00:28:32.380 was in town she came and watched the show for a bit love her obviously she's the best and um

00:28:36.820 she was even she'll sometimes text carrie like you know drew should have this person on their show

00:28:42.440 she'll just text carrie that and then um i'm pretty certain she said you should have

00:28:46.580 and that was months before we we heard from you lo and behold and then carrie was like mom you're 0.99

00:28:53.340 never gonna believe who's gonna come on the comment section so she's gutted she couldn't be here today

00:28:58.440 oh shoot i did have to give her a little shout out a little piece okay i'm glad you did up the ep

00:29:02.700 because she's a huge fan and if you could sign her vhs tapes after i would appreciate it

00:29:08.100 absolutely i can see there's a there's three or four hundred tape i'll sign all those photographs

00:29:13.240 and all the tapes don't worry it's all good carrie was literally like i'm like do you think maybe

00:29:17.740 he'll sign my mom's vhs tapes and i was like i prepped him at the party last night i did let him

00:29:22.280 know about jen and i brought a couple different pens that we can use so we are good give her a mix 0.96

00:29:27.360 and match a little bit oh that's very i love it i love the vh that is vhs those are og v twin peaks

00:29:33.980 vhs that is og yeah absolutely that's fantastic it's beautiful we got to bring those back you

00:29:39.260 want to show it on tv yeah let's can we do that can you bring them over here so i can show

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00:30:15.180 this takes up a lot of room on your shelf no absolutely look how stunning and gorgeous it is i mean

00:30:19.780 it's really nicely done like you're in it's in a log encased in a log yeah like right i love that

00:30:26.720 360 of of jen's uh vhs that's cool and you have all the images of the cast on top

00:30:31.960 i mean i know it's really stunning honestly and it's in really good shape

00:30:36.420 yeah it's like i mean this could go for a million dollars a million dollars once you sign it i'm gonna

00:30:42.800 hawk it so i hope that's cool yes that's gonna reduce the price then it'll be 50 cents

00:30:47.580 after i sign it but she's the biggest twin peaks fan so obviously i had to give her a little segment

00:30:52.560 because she is the number one comment section fan too so obviously we love jen this episode is brought

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00:31:30.920 begins but i do have some other fun facts about you oh if you if you'd like we can go down them

00:31:36.460 okay okay this first one says your first film appearance was getting paid ten dollars to be an

00:31:42.540 extra in the movie the changeling yes yes i was ten whole dollars i remember i got ten dollars i you

00:31:50.120 know i would have done it for free yeah actually i did it for free then ten dollars i don't even know

00:31:54.380 if i saw that money where it went but yes i was at school at the university of washington and that's

00:31:58.740 where the program was where i studied that i was like okay i'm going to become an actor and they

00:32:01.940 posted the thing for the drama department come be an extra yeah basically just be a student

00:32:06.280 on campus yeah and so i just said i was like okay i didn't know what this meant and i just went

00:32:11.540 and i said okay you're gonna walk up these stairs i didn't see a camera i didn't see i didn't even know

00:32:18.600 if there was another actor and it was just a walking it was just a bunch of us yeah and and and i just

00:32:23.240 and i must they must have said actions i didn't hear action people just started moving and i just

00:32:27.160 i just went with the people we walked up the stairs and said okay stop said okay now what do we do

00:32:31.200 we gotta do it again i was like okay i mean it was literally i knew nothing walking up steps

00:32:36.040 walking up steps i'm walking back down and i have never i haven't gone to look at the i've never

00:32:40.700 seen i mean i've seen the film but i haven't really looked to see if if i made the cut i don't know if

00:32:44.900 i did we have to go back and look i might have been cut out i bet jen will know if you've been in

00:32:48.880 there yes she will i bet she would know she knows all my stuff bless her heart it says uh before filming

00:32:54.340 blue velvet you met laura dern and david lynch at bob's big boy for a chemistry lunch yes and how'd

00:33:01.520 that go i think it went well i'd say pretty well and i dated for four years oh my god it was great

00:33:09.300 laura dern how fun and david lynch obviously so cool yeah and do like chemistry lunch is that just

00:33:16.600 for the like before you start filming obviously just yeah i just kind of vibe i think it was that

00:33:21.860 was what it was you know david doesn't really audition yeah people you know it's more of a

00:33:28.660 kind of a meet and talk and very cool which is very nice very civilized yeah um he just figures

00:33:34.900 hey well you're an actor you know what to do you know and then he meets you and wants to know if if

00:33:40.400 you if he gets a sense of you within his you know his world yeah and sometimes it works and sometimes

00:33:45.600 it doesn't but he's just very kind and very gracious was very kind was very gracious uh speak to

00:33:51.840 i speak i still speak of him as if he's here in the present tense um and so laura and i and we just

00:33:57.660 had a lovely meeting and um she's just delightful and alluring alluring and fun and uh she had a

00:34:07.560 great sense of humor i remember laughed a lot she's got a great laugh like you got a great she's a great

00:34:13.740 laugh oh thank you different than your different than your laugh but yeah i don't know if i'd call

00:34:17.980 mine alluring really maybe like a siren maybe like a siren in the ocean you know i think it's great um

00:34:26.280 but we yeah we did that and and that kind of thing i had one other i had a chemistry read

00:34:31.740 for a film years ago i think it was called the net i had a chemistry read it was with sandra bullock and

00:34:40.040 um i thought it went great

00:34:42.780 but when you go see the movie i'm not in it so sadly so apparently other people did not feel that

00:34:51.220 did not feel the chemistry that i thought was scintillating i thought it was piping hot

00:34:58.000 yeah there you go so it doesn't always work out oh that's okay yeah i i even well i haven't even

00:35:04.880 gotten that far but um i did i've told this story a few times but like when moana the live action moana

00:35:11.760 was like broadcast that they were gonna film it you know there's about i would say about 10 someone

00:35:17.480 people in this industry currently i'm one of the 10 okay um and i'm fairly new odds are i thought maybe

00:35:24.720 you know extra at the very least at the very least not one person called me which is interesting

00:35:31.080 because i know the director of the film and um i've worked with duane like i've done a few things

00:35:38.280 with the rock right so and ali so it's kind of like that's interesting yeah um so then i think because i

00:35:44.880 made a tick tock about it and i was just kind of complaining for the fun of it but i was also kind

00:35:48.640 like hey and then um they did end up sending me reads for background characters all men by the

00:35:55.320 way um it was coconut farmer angry coconut farmer um and fisherman fisherman fisherman number three

00:36:03.260 actually and i wanted to be the fisherman so they really had you typecast right they really were like

00:36:07.520 okay well a man who does hard physical labor obviously right and i think it's based off my build

00:36:12.100 so basically they were like yeah like uh just read these and i now looking back i feel like they 0.95

00:36:19.760 only did that because i bitched about it online and they were like duh give this bitch fisherman and 1.00

00:36:24.180 then obviously i didn't get anything clearly because i'm still here doing this obviously and so my 0.81

00:36:29.760 fisherman my role didn't take off like i thought it would you know no um but i did want fisherman

00:36:34.660 because he had three lines whereas the other guys had one right um didn't pan out no but i thought i

00:36:40.460 nailed it when i did when i did the self-tape i was like i nailed those three lines they made a huge

00:36:45.140 mistake i think so if you had played one of those roles it would be memorable i don't remember the

00:36:50.920 fisherman from that at all yeah because of the cast and you know what we're gonna forget him again

00:36:56.020 when we see the live action totally if it'd been you people would remember i do have a fear though

00:37:03.160 because i did get um a read for like animate like voiceover yes um for an animation but it

00:37:10.340 was an audition like three four years ago and they asked me if i could sing and i was like

00:37:16.260 no um i'm not tone deaf i just like can't sing i i wouldn't say i could sing at all right um and so

00:37:23.780 they were like okay perfect um we need you to sing for a minute straight acapella and then do these few

00:37:30.660 lines and the the description of the character and everything was very vague and nondescript because

00:37:35.980 i think looking back now now that wanted to is out right i know it was for a role in wanted to and 0.99

00:37:42.180 i know it was for like a newer character they had in wanted to who the song she sings you're fucking 0.97

00:37:48.480 nuts i can't sing that shit right but also i was like the the when i did the the tape for just the 0.99

00:37:55.760 few lines they gave me and then i sent in the singing tape i for real was thinking to myself 0.97

00:38:00.780 they're never gonna call me again they're gonna blackball me when they see how bad i am at

00:38:05.880 singing no yeah i think so and so obviously i didn't get that one did that one either

00:38:10.640 so they didn't tell you what you were auditioning for they didn't say anything it was all

00:38:14.660 yeah they said it was like um and i i've heard they do this with like huge releases like they

00:38:20.900 kind of cloak them under other things so there was a description of the character but it was

00:38:25.740 at the time it was a two-headed bird that was an old woman and i said how is an old woman a bird

00:38:33.160 that feels like just a mean thing to write to me right and so it was like a mean old woman bird with

00:38:37.980 two heads and then they're like basically it's just like bitchy they're being mean to each other 1.00

00:38:42.600 right they kind of are at odds back and forth yeah yeah so i was like both heads like that was what

00:38:46.720 the lines were and then they wanted me to sing for a minute and i did to be fair i think i picked a

00:38:52.180 song that was really hard i picked the song songbird well so they asked you to sing just

00:38:57.080 anything yeah they said anything as long as it's somewhat recognizable and acapella that's really

00:39:02.620 hard yeah that's what i'm saying i mean and then they said nothing um like nothing from a musical or

00:39:09.100 anything they wanted it to be like a modern ish song yeah of some kind again very vague instruction

00:39:14.700 yeah and i don't know how to sing like i said and i asked my cousin to help me because he's a very

00:39:19.560 good singer a very talented singer and he grew up in church singing and everything so he knows a lot

00:39:24.260 about music and so he was like going through takes with me and like just he's like just have it like

00:39:29.100 just sing something for me and i've never been that nervous in my life than to sing in front of

00:39:33.880 someone singing is really nerve-wracking i know and i know you said you've done musicals yeah and how

00:39:38.860 do you like singing i i mean i i haven't sung for a long long time i mean i feel like you're way better

00:39:44.020 than me no no no i i don't think i can sing anymore um but it's it's very yeah it's very very

00:39:50.240 disconcerting nerve-wracking yeah like i'll that's why i said i could get up and tell wiener jokes but

00:39:55.940 i cannot sing in front of other people makes me it makes me so nervous and there were a couple times

00:40:01.360 where my cousin was like recording he's like i'm just gonna record you um so you get used to being

00:40:06.120 recorded while while you sing and then we'll just like stop it after every take and then we can pick

00:40:10.140 the best ones i was like okay and there were some takes where like he would start and then about

00:40:15.920 two seconds in he'd stop and be like that's terrible let's start over that's horrible don't

00:40:20.060 use that one i'd be like i didn't even sing i think two words confidence building what we call that

00:40:25.060 yeah i had a real mr miyagi situation going on you know i mean i was like what does this have to do

00:40:30.840 with karate that's what i felt challenging good lord yeah well you like it yeah you like a you like a

00:40:38.600 challenge but i am looking forward to acting and i will say yes with all the bumps i've had i'm very

00:40:43.100 excited yes yes to keep going i i want you to have a great experience another fun fact um it says you

00:40:49.660 originally wanted to be an opera singer and studied classical voice at university of washington

00:40:54.960 speaking of singing i can't sing um i thought about it for like a a quarter note very funny dad joke

00:41:04.120 um but i did no i i like i sang in the musicals in high school i went to college

00:41:09.360 um i i took singing lessons i was one of those kids and i studied with one of the teachers at the

00:41:15.020 university of washington um in the opera department i was terrible let's just put it get that right out

00:41:20.040 of the way first of all um and did it had pity on me yes and because i think it was weird because i

00:41:24.660 was coming from this very special acting program that that was at the school and and i was also trying

00:41:31.060 to do this other thing and they were like well he's an actor right yeah but he wants to be a singer

00:41:34.520 too it was like well wait a minute i'm not sure that's gonna work you should i be a jack of all

00:41:37.100 trades all of jack of all trades it'd be good if i could only if only i could be a coconut farmer

00:41:42.360 an angry angry coconut farmer or a fisherman yeah well you'll get there one day someday i'm

00:41:49.340 gonna get there hopefully your career takes off soon fingers crossed through my fingers are crossed

00:41:55.440 um but it was uh it was really fun you know and i was that was really gonna be my thing and then i

00:42:00.060 literally i i was on my way to new york and uh i i auditioned for dune in seattle uh with a casting

00:42:06.660 agent there a casting lady and uh and they took and showed the tape to david lynch in in la or and

00:42:12.060 and they flew me down they met me and i chitty chatted i didn't know what i was doing

00:42:15.580 and i screen tested and they were like okay you're the guy and i was like this is really i was like of

00:42:21.600 course i'm the guy you know at the time you're like well this is how it works right they pull you out of like

00:42:25.420 a hat and then they throw you and i'm like and you know come to find out of course that's not how

00:42:29.740 it works at all you know that's so cool though it was wild okay opera singer that's u-dub right like

00:42:36.740 yeah yeah purple purple gold period well done yeah my sister went to the university of oregon i'm sorry

00:42:44.820 big rivalry great school yeah great school no but that's fun i like that u-dub's a great school

00:42:52.520 it's a great school too yeah and they got a great football program too yes they do have do you go

00:42:56.200 back and watch games i went back to recently yeah yeah i went back and saw and watched one of the

00:43:00.240 games they're really really good you know they're really good and the and the we got a tour through

00:43:04.700 the through like the locker room and area and then the weight room area and i was like

00:43:09.400 i mean it's like pro level i don't know what pro level is but i was like this is incredible i know

00:43:15.980 the money they're fun funneling in those programs now it's no joke it is no joke yeah they are they

00:43:21.240 are like pros now essentially yeah now with all the new rules and everything yes are you a sports

00:43:25.640 fan yeah i am what do you like yeah well i i watch football i love the seahawks i'm being from that

00:43:30.720 area i was i remember rooting them on in 76 when the franchise started love zorn to large yeah i like

00:43:36.960 p carol love he brought a great energy yeah he led a dynasty over there for a while and uh and it's

00:43:42.320 just you know it's in the town see i mean i went to school to uw was it i was in seattle for five

00:43:47.160 years it's not my hometown but i you know it's something it's a town i'm close to yeah and they

00:43:51.400 really really get behind their team the 12s you know yeah the fans are really an important part of

00:43:56.580 that franchise yeah so i like that and then and then i'm kind of a fair weather sports you know like

00:44:02.460 i watch the world series of course yeah i mean like because you got to do that and same with

00:44:06.280 basketball and then i'm i grew up as a golfer i played a lot of golf yeah i was really cool you can see

00:44:11.100 why i was mr popular on the golf team golf's real cool now nowadays you see a lot of young people

00:44:17.480 are golfing now when i was young it was not cool they were like big nerd yes the big nerd you're

00:44:23.060 golfing but we did have cheerleaders we had cheerleaders oh wow oh yeah yeah we had they had

00:44:28.280 they had two cheerleading squads and so they would come for golfing one for yeah for golf there was a

00:44:33.040 cheerleading for golf there was a cheerleading squad for baseball there was a all the sports had a

00:44:37.520 cheerleading squad and so they would come out well this is at the height in my high school

00:44:41.440 high school yeah oh yeah i was serious real supportive school i love that yes they were

00:44:45.520 big on that and i was like why do you have cheerleaders because you you know golf is like

00:44:48.680 you can't really speak quiet very quiet so they were very quiet cheerleaders i don't think they

00:44:53.220 had one cheer they just sort of looked at each other like they're just they're going

00:44:56.520 really quiet that's a i think that's a fairweather fan comment you made i think is real um my dad

00:45:07.000 played in the nfl for like a bit wow back in the day that's impressive yeah from like 2000 to 2002

00:45:13.440 okay um he was on the arizona cardinals but my dad didn't um play football at all growing up he played

00:45:20.000 he started playing in junior college and then um was walking around well he was just walking around on

00:45:25.260 campus my dad's my dad's 6'6 so my dad's a big dude and so he was walking around on campus and then

00:45:30.680 um his uh coach like in college was like do you play football and he was like no i've never played

00:45:36.900 football and so he's like okay like you should definitely join the team and so my dad played at

00:45:41.160 the junior college for a couple years and then transferred to texas western texas a&m right played

00:45:46.680 there for two and then got drafted like seventh round right before mr irrelevant so okay you know

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00:46:18.300 at onepeloton.ca synonymously obviously the very last person picked in the draft yeah my dad got

00:46:25.460 picked right before him so he's fine he's good honestly kind of sucked my mom was like i wish 0.70

00:46:30.060 he got picked as mr irrelevant because like the guy who the very like one of the guys that was mr

00:46:33.980 irrelevant he like they throw this big parade and stuff to like celebrate him as if he's just as 0.89

00:46:37.900 important as the first guy and my mom's like well he didn't get any of the free shit and he was right 0.98

00:46:41.840 before the last guy damn the timing couldn't have been worse damn well the fact that he played in 0.57

00:46:46.340 that's really impressive i mean that's that's the top of the world right you don't get any higher than 0.96

00:46:51.640 that i know i tell my dad that all the time because a lot of times he's like that about it but i was

00:46:55.900 like that's a an incredible experience to have not many people do yeah but that being said my my fiancee

00:47:01.820 also played college football for a long time didn't want to go to the pros yeah um also a big dude but

00:47:06.900 both my fiancee and my dad are the same and in terms of fair weather sports fans like they love

00:47:11.940 watching sports like they really do enjoy it but they're not like like you said they like world

00:47:16.320 series and bay finals fun stuff yeah yeah it's kind of like that and oftentimes i mean i love having

00:47:22.000 it reminds me probably when i was younger because there was sports were on all the time when i was a

00:47:26.140 kid and you just sort of walk through the room and you just sort of have in the background like

00:47:29.460 it's sort of comforting somehow yeah that's so real i agree my mom's a 49er fan so our kind of

00:47:35.460 rivals with you yes seahawks yes yes i'm sorry we can't continue this interview and that's the end

00:47:41.720 of this interview by the way no so nice to speak well it was a joy until you know you brought that

00:47:47.180 moment but speaking on the subject of sports my next fun fact for you uh it says you worked for

00:47:54.500 a golf course greens groundskeeper in the summers growing up in yakima i did when i when you say nerd

00:48:00.340 you it was a capital n right there i know every fact is more nerd nerd nerd it just keeps pointing

00:48:07.400 in that direction the ouija board says nerd oh yeah well it was you know it was a it was actually

00:48:14.780 a great job i gotta say because you're outdoors started a little early for high you know because

00:48:19.140 i was high school into college so i had to be there at 6 a.m which was you know sort of put the kibosh on

00:48:24.820 some of the late night activities yeah but it was really nice to get up in the morning and it was

00:48:28.740 nice to be in the sun all day outside yeah really beautiful surroundings golf course is very lovely

00:48:34.100 you know and um yeah and it was really and i worked with some very eccentric it was kind of amazing

00:48:40.260 because there were these old timers that were there you know and they all had stories they had

00:48:45.380 crazy stories there was one guy his name was red that wasn't his real name but it was red of course

00:48:50.820 and he always kind of hitched up when he would stand like this and he was a good old boy like

00:48:54.580 this and whole thing with the hat and you know the whole thing the trucker hat and i remember he had

00:48:58.580 a wallet that would sort of stick half out of his back pocket yeah and it looked like you'd taken two

00:49:03.620 slabs of dried roast beef and stuck them together and then there was a bunch of stuff inside and i

00:49:08.820 looked at it i said that can't be a wallet it's like because you take it out and it's like it's a

00:49:12.420 sandwich it's like a sandwich i'm like jesus christ it was like this is amazing but just stuff like

00:49:18.420 that you know you have these great like memories of of these really eccentric characters that you

00:49:22.820 know we all were in this and you know you have a lunch together and you sit around you talk and

00:49:26.820 you get to know each other you know it was kind of cool what a fun job to have it was fun it's

00:49:31.700 random but very fun true and then my last fun fact about you is that in high school for prank week

00:49:38.820 you put up posters of farrah fawcett on the gym floor of course classroom furniture of course this is

00:49:45.940 good you went deep in this research i really love it rebellious well it was senior it was senior prank

00:49:51.300 week so we had to come up with these ideas and so the one the genius prank and i'm going to put it

00:49:56.180 out there in case anyone is thinking so our high school was laid out kind of um it was a two two

00:50:00.820 stories two two floors kind of one long hallway and in the middle was the cafeteria right so too long

00:50:06.900 and they were sort of kind of mirrored with each other so what we did is we took we got in we broke

00:50:12.740 in i had a crew we had a key we had we could open most of the rooms and we took the desk from the

00:50:20.020 furthest away room on the lower part of the of the you know of the of the floors yeah and we moved it

00:50:26.820 and we had an elevator because we got the kids that had broken legs and we got the elevator so we could

00:50:30.660 use the key and we moved it all the way to the upper floor of the furthest away point and we just

00:50:36.260 switched the desks like this and then we took the farrah fawcett posters because this was 1977.

00:50:42.500 okay so farrah fawcett was you know she was like she was the one yeah yeah she was like on on um 0.91

00:50:48.660 she was like uh what is it on wayne's world as you guys like heather lock heather be thy name

00:50:53.380 she was like her thing so it was farrah fawcett we took posters of her and then we we shellacked them 0.63

00:50:58.900 over the over the school emblem in the middle of the cafeteria damn you shellacked them too yeah we put

00:51:03.860 it with we took we took a glue water combination to put it down which was actually easy to get 0.97

00:51:09.860 off and by the time the kids got to school the janitors had been busy and they like had already

00:51:13.620 removed the the posters yeah i know i was very sad but the desks all day long they had it disrupted

00:51:19.780 the school which was the important thing to do that was the important part and it wasn't vandalism we

00:51:24.500 just we just moved things around did something silly yeah you just did a little silly yeah just kids yeah

00:51:29.940 we didn't have social media we didn't have things to take our minds on we didn't have you know phones

00:51:33.860 we had to make our own fun all right that's what i'm trying to say now but at the time it was

00:51:37.860 hilarious it was a lot of fun yeah all night we were up all night so proud of ourselves i i honestly

00:51:43.540 get that now because i just i just turned 30 um so now in tick tock years oh i'm over the hill yeah

00:51:50.100 i'm sorry tick tock years two steps from the grave me yeah yeah so like what's next god retirement

00:51:56.900 hopefully retirement oh no you can never out you're clocking in hopefully your big break comes

00:52:02.100 soon thank you thank you that's why i'm here people to see this exactly exactly but um i i was

00:52:09.460 talking about this with my friend the other day because there were so many things that have

00:52:12.660 shifted drastically obviously with the invention of cell phones and social media and everything like

00:52:18.420 that yeah and i feel like uh my generation was probably one of the last ones to have childhood and

00:52:24.820 high school before yeah with no phone and no social media or anything like that and i honestly i'm like

00:52:30.100 grateful for it yeah like now i have brain rot to a level that is terminal i think it's clinical

00:52:36.100 we all do it's impossible yeah i have no choice those bugs are embedded in my brain yeah they're

00:52:42.180 in there they're in there and they're not going anywhere make make yourself busy that's fine yeah

00:52:45.860 but i was like telling my friend the other day i was like i'm honestly really glad that i had

00:52:50.500 a most of my childhood including my teen years like with no phone no social media yeah it makes me

00:52:56.020 sound 100 when i say it but it's very true like i feel like i had a lot of developmental uh milestones

00:53:03.620 that maybe people are missing out on now because everybody's on their phone and everything's so easy

00:53:07.700 now to look up because when i was i was like telling a story like this on the show the other day that i

00:53:12.740 had to do i went through a really weird hyper fixation phase and when i was a child so one of my

00:53:17.380 hyper fixations was the titanic um and so like i've already said this like i just like needed to

00:53:23.300 research everything about the titanic right right just needed to download it yeah for why

00:53:28.900 or what i'm not too sure yeah no i think it i mean i i get it right it's it's fascinating because you

00:53:34.820 think of how could it have happened right and it was like everything all the wrong things happened at

00:53:40.020 one at one point you get it so you're like how do you you're speaking my language pull that apart yeah

00:53:44.820 absolutely how can i not be in a situation like right exactly so i'm gonna study it and no exactly don't

00:53:52.100 prepare and prepare yeah yeah and i think most of my fascinations were with things that involved

00:53:57.620 like the hubris of man really it's just like just like really thinking you're bigger than the program

00:54:02.660 i i feel like i was super invested in stuff like that i was like how could you ever think that you

00:54:06.980 could get on that and think nothing bad was gonna happen like me thinking like nothing bad would ever

00:54:10.980 happen to me if i was younger at the time if i was around at that time i'd be like well i'm just i

00:54:15.380 guess built different i wouldn't have gotten on the titanic yeah yeah i would have saw it and i said no

00:54:19.140 that's gonna sink probably disaster a disaster in the making yeah yeah so i had a very weird

00:54:25.780 hyperfixation thing as a child but when i was really into things like the titanic um and i was

00:54:30.980 at like my grandfather's house i would to look it up because i had no computer or anything like that i

00:54:36.020 would i would use the encyclopedias yeah and i talked about those recently and there were some

00:54:40.180 younger people online that were like what are those yeah and i was like god i'm a thousand you're a

00:54:45.620 a thousand i'm a million years old oh no encyclopedia there used to be the encyclopedia britannica

00:54:53.300 everyone had one in your house yeah people used to sell them door to door well you know it used to

00:54:57.460 be and this is an old reference um there was a show called laugh in um a thousand years ago and they

00:55:02.580 had it was irreverent and kind of young comedy and one of the one of their phrases they would always

00:55:08.260 say is look that up in your funk and wagnalls look that up in your funk and wagnalls now funk and wagnalls

00:55:14.580 was actually the name of the of the encyclopedia with the funk and wagnalls i'm just like who comes

00:55:20.500 up with that i'm like i said that's fit yeah exactly and now you're never clearly it was very

00:55:27.540 impactful because you're still it's a bug right in here it's still in there yeah i was like you guys

00:55:32.260 have no idea what it was like to have to pick one out and then look it up and then oh my god and

00:55:36.580 then there's not that much information no no i need more no i need more did you have any special

00:55:41.300 interests when you were younger i was i was a big reader oh love yeah any faves genre you know it's

00:55:48.500 all the classic one the hardy boys you know i like the three investigators um i would actually read my

00:55:54.740 parents had the reader's digest condensed books okay i was like okay and i would literally get

00:56:01.060 hungry for stuff to read i would like pull one down and i would go like what's it oh papillon what's

00:56:05.220 this or papillin what is that and so i read but it wasn't the whole story oh yeah the condensed

00:56:11.300 version the cliff notes yeah you're like ah damn i gotta go find this and read it for real getting 0.64

00:56:16.980 edged by this the reader's digest is edging me again itching me again why man you're really not 0.93

00:56:24.500 beating those nerd allegations oh no no i'm you said i was itching to read something i have gotten to the

00:56:29.220 age i've gotten to the age where i just let it all kind of hang out it's all good it's all good see

00:56:35.060 this is what you have to look forward to i i'm looking for honestly i'm there i'm already there

00:56:38.740 with you honestly that's one of the things i love about you yeah i'm like i'm real old so right there

00:56:43.300 it's all right there here i am i know the first thing honestly at this point would have been like

00:56:47.140 when you asked me what is that and i said it's electrolytes just trying to keep my hydration up

00:56:51.460 that's me getting old i love that i was i was just talking about this being practical that too

00:56:56.020 but you know and health conscious yeah like tiredness now that i'm older is just like it'll 0.78

00:57:01.620 ruin my whole fucking day yeah if i don't get a really good night's good night's sleep secret 0.96

00:57:06.740 ingredient right here yeah what's in there it's vitamin c-o-f-f-e-e 0.99

00:57:14.340 sorry that's such an old man joke it's old man look do you see how i lean in on that i'm like

00:57:20.420 yeah baby and you got me oh man i yearn for that i can't wait to just be saying things

00:57:27.380 when you're older you could just say anything yeah you could just say anything and people go

00:57:30.980 yeah because you're older yeah like that's so t pass just keep moving keep moving old man

00:57:37.460 keep moving

00:57:40.660 i can't wait for that i was talking about this the other day i was like

00:57:43.860 explaining i think my sister and i were talking about but i was talking about how like

00:57:47.700 because a lot of i have another podcast with my sister and a lot of our uh audience members are

00:57:52.580 like the there's a good portion of them that are our age but a lot of them are a lot younger and so

00:57:57.540 like when we talk i was like you guys don't get it like you're gonna get to an age where you'll say

00:58:02.260 things out loud like i can't eat that i have to work tomorrow like you'll literally say things like

00:58:07.620 that out loud and mean it like you'll be like i can't i have a busy day tomorrow i can't do that i'll be

00:58:12.340 up all night i'll have to sit in the recliner my acid reflux yes you know like i know just stack

00:58:17.700 my pillows up so i can't i know what am i gonna do don't start with prunes i'm just saying kids don't

00:58:26.420 prunes no that's a dead giveaway my godfather um now you're gonna tell me a story about prunes aren't

00:58:32.900 you no no please don't but not about that don't not about prunes okay but my my godfather did say once

00:58:39.300 like uh he was like if i could do any kind of reverse aging i wouldn't make myself younger

00:58:46.100 i would reset like my food clock so like i wouldn't be allergic to anything nothing would upset my

00:58:51.780 stomach you could eat anything yeah i would just reset that so i could eat whatever i want wow that's

00:58:55.860 a really interesting idea i know i was like huh because when i first heard that i was like in my

00:59:00.260 early 20s and i was like yeah what does that mean yeah now that i'm older i'm like oh my god what i

00:59:04.900 would give what i would give to reset my food clock 10 years like holy i love that idea i can't

00:59:11.220 even have anything with a little too much heavy cream otherwise it's curtains for me curtains it's

00:59:15.540 curtains for you it's it's curtains batman

00:59:20.900 my mind you know what's good about getting older is like you have reference points

00:59:25.300 so many and and you know the audience is not gonna be like what the hell but it's like to me it's like

00:59:31.300 that's just like it was yesterday it's like you know batman and robin i mean come on

00:59:36.340 i mean yeah i made um i think it was i don't even remember i think i made like a river sticks joke

00:59:42.420 once like i just said someone looked like the ferryman on the river sticks okay i just made it

00:59:47.620 that joke i made a dante's inferno joke once and then young people are like no because they don't 0.59

00:59:53.460 fucking only in italy you can do it in italy they know dante it's italian that's what i'm saying 0.95

00:59:58.260 they'll get it yeah you're right yeah but i can't wait i mean i yearn for that time yeah 0.99

01:00:02.820 where you could just say anything yeah and they're like he's old it's okay it's okay it's fine he's

01:00:09.380 old it's good it's good go hang amongst your own kind okay okay i think i would reset if i could

01:00:18.100 reset anything i would reset my knees oh that's a good one yeah i think that i think that's a great

01:00:23.780 idea yeah i could use that now yeah so that would be the thing when i was uh young i tore my

01:00:29.940 i tore my acl i tore all the ligaments in my knee because i was an athlete growing up so i tore all

01:00:35.700 of them when i was like 14. that's a hard recovery yeah it was pretty rough i was like nine ten months

01:00:41.220 just total in recovery but i was like playing sports full-time like at the time i recovered so it was like

01:00:46.980 it was a lot but i remember when that happened to me i immediately because in my head i was i'd

01:00:53.620 always thought i'm gonna go to college for sports like i'm gonna go on a scholarship right and then

01:00:57.860 when i get there i'm gonna find something else that i love when i tore everything in my knee i was like

01:01:03.220 okay sports first of all this is not forever have to redo it but because i tore all that in my knee

01:01:10.580 um you know the scar tissue and everything builds up my physical therapist over 10 years ago goes like

01:01:15.860 make sure you do your stretches and everything otherwise you know it's gonna be a little hard

01:01:18.900 i'm like yeah yeah when i'm 14. my mobility was so on my bad knee for well into my 20s and then my

01:01:27.300 my man now is a certified personal trainer so he helped me like fix my mobility but i would do the

01:01:33.300 same thing i would reset the strength on my knees as well yeah especially my left one it's crazy i know

01:01:38.900 it's like i remember going to not that long ago i mean going to the gym um and you'd see like an

01:01:45.380 old you know the person at the gym you know and you're just like why do they even bother

01:01:50.980 it's like what are they really trying to prove you know i'm like and now i'm like good for you

01:01:56.340 i'm happy to see you here i give them like it's great you're doing this you know what i mean because

01:02:00.180 they're trying they're they're they're trying you know and i'm like that's gonna be me one day

01:02:05.060 it's all good you know god what's the point

01:02:08.500 what's that awful just like get out of my way old man god get off the machine you're not even

01:02:15.860 using it you're doing it right where's your range of motion come on oh my god oh my god that's so

01:02:23.460 funny go get the fives i'm having so much fun with you this is crazy

01:02:26.820 well thank you so much for coming and hanging out with me today this is really really nice i think

01:02:32.740 you're a hoot you're a hoot i think you're so fun and i can't wait to be the adopted child in the

01:02:38.020 family and overcompensating season two it's gonna happen it'll be like a whole blindside situation

01:02:41.940 you guys just adopt me i play football yes you know what i mean like i i i learn how to read and

01:02:47.540 everything like that yes it turns out none of it's true but we you're the daughter i always wanted

01:02:51.860 right we settled that last year way after the fact yeah yeah we could we could do like one of

01:02:56.660 those i think that'd be awesome yeah take my notes to benny if you will i will

01:03:02.420 he's gonna hear from me my god yeah exactly thank you so much for coming on the show cool i adore you

01:03:09.060 i think you're so thank you thank you i mean thank you for my fun questions of course that was really

01:03:14.820 great oh my god of course anything for you i do have a final question for you oh i'm ready um if you

01:03:20.740 have any advice for any aspiring actors or like thespians if you will ah yes um and just like

01:03:28.580 you know not just i especially now because i feel like the uh industry feels almost impossible to

01:03:34.180 penetrate yes not that it felt any easier back then but i think even now with as much exposure as

01:03:39.060 people get it can feel a little daunting and intimidating yeah um just if you have any any um

01:03:44.020 advice for aspiring artists the only thing i can think about it well a couple things one is

01:03:48.420 you have social is a great way to just do your stuff and get it out in front of people you know

01:03:57.620 and have them respond i mean again benny's a really good example um creating characters and kind of

01:04:03.300 developing a following and then you know people pay attention to that and then they go maybe or he's

01:04:08.420 got the got the energy to to you know actually tell his story um so i think you know that kind of goes

01:04:14.740 hand in hand with just the idea of where i always say just work you know what i mean if you can just

01:04:21.140 get get and get on the stage get get in front of a camera get something student film and the third thing

01:04:27.540 is find uh find your find your group find uh find a community yeah um a couple people have come to town

01:04:35.540 and they're like what am i sorry i said find a class yeah find a class just and and just go in and you know

01:04:41.620 monitor find a good class and and start to make connections with the other people in the class

01:04:48.660 because they'll have information and you'll have information and pretty you can share this back

01:04:52.820 and forth yeah and you build this community that then can support they can support each other yeah

01:04:57.780 absolutely and so that's and that those are just you know and if you have a passion for it and a love

01:05:02.820 for it you've got to keep doing it yeah for for no money at all if it's if that's what it takes no money

01:05:08.020 at all because that's what i think a lot of people have done for a long time yeah uh do it for no

01:05:13.460 money i think that's how i mean i think that's proof that you really really love what you do like

01:05:18.260 especially as an artist i've said i've talked about that before with friends too who are in the same

01:05:22.340 industry whether they're like a content creator like me or or an act an actress first um how that kind

01:05:27.940 of understanding that the whole point of art is to not necessarily profit it's to like it's to put art in

01:05:34.500 the world like the whole point is to create yeah you have to you have to do something yeah

01:05:37.860 the voice and you have to you know get it out there and and again with social is a positive

01:05:42.740 way to use social is just to use that as a way to like hey i'm gonna hear something that's important

01:05:46.500 to me or yeah find someone and um you know do a little short film or you know just anything just

01:05:51.620 yeah totally your point of view your perspective your vision vision put it out there what do you got

01:05:56.420 to lose i i love that you have said that especially as an og like you're such a successful actor

01:06:02.180 i love that you're advising people to utilize social media too because some people say the

01:06:06.900 opposite they're like i hate social media i hate the crossover but i think it's a beautiful thing

01:06:10.660 that you're to reach yeah i think it's well and a lot of um actors i've had on the show that like

01:06:15.460 started acting well before social media were like it used to be a lot harder to like put yourself out

01:06:20.260 there and now it's like easier to yourself out there yeah the opportunities were were not as yeah and

01:06:24.340 you couldn't do your own thing right exactly you didn't have a platform on which you could like

01:06:28.500 show yourself yeah totally so well thank you so much yeah i love you thank you you're the best i

01:06:35.140 can't wait to grow old together ah i'm so excited and thank you so much for shouting out jennifer

01:06:40.500 pritchett realtor yay and her twin peaks vhs jpr jpr the one and only jpr we love her here thank you so

01:06:48.020 much to all of you for tuning into this episode of the comment section show thank you so much to my

01:06:52.420 amazing guest kyle mclaughlin where can everybody find you kyle oh down at the supermarket i'll be

01:07:00.020 there they're still selling my stuff um we have a couple things you know fallout's coming um which

01:07:05.540 will be exciting and i do a podcast now called what are we even doing and that's been that's an

01:07:10.420 i-heart but everywhere and we do interviews and we're gonna drew you're coming on yes we're gonna

01:07:15.620 have a chit chat as well yes um that's been a lot of fun so yeah i'm just i'm just doing stuff

01:07:21.140 yeah i was like everybody who wouldn't know you is probably like nine so that's probably why

01:07:25.940 they were just born yesterday so that's probably why everybody else knows you though i gotta i have

01:07:30.660 to get a fisher price uh thing that we're doing like a you know yeah you gotta get on some miss

01:07:35.220 rachel stuff yeah start speaking to them yeah you should try to get on backyard again but they're 1.00

01:07:39.700 just really really tough you know because they sing you know yeah god it's so cutthroat over there

01:07:45.620 well thank you so much to my amazing guest kyle for coming on the show thank you all so much for tuning

01:07:49.860 in don't forget new episodes of the comment section drop every wednesday you can stream the

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01:08:01.380 you and i'll see you next week bye

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