OUT-CRAZY THE CRAZY Ft. Sasha Colby
Summary
Sasha Colby is a drag queen from the Big Island of Oahu, Hawaii. She was born in the late 80s and early 90s, and has been in the public eye for the past year. In this episode, we talk about how she got her start in drag, how she came to know she was trans, and what it was like growing up in a polynesian household.
Transcript
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Shout out to every Tinder guy who ever had a fish in their profile that has liked me.
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I don't know. Probably because they like killing things.
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They like killing things. They like colonizing.
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Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show starring
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me, your favorite, who cares about me. On to the guests. Today we have my AAPI sister,
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I'm honored to have you. You've been highly requested.
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Yeah, all your requests, all your burner accounts, they're working.
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I've been chasing Sasha for a while, y'all, but she is a busy queen. She's been running
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the world for the past year. So I've been chasing you for over a year, and now look at
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I'm telling you, everything happens. The universe is always working in my favor.
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But I'm so happy to have you. It's an honor. I am truly fascinated and I admire your journey
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I love it. I admire you. I think you're amazing.
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Thank you so much. Goddess sees goddess. You know what I'm saying?
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Period. Real recognize real. I would love to know a little bit more about your lore.
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I'm very familiar, but your background as far as like how you got into drag, like what made
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The lore of Sasha Colby. I mean, born already kind of knowing that I was trans at like five.
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You know, when they start separating you at school by gender and it's like, why can't
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Yeah. I knew at an early age, but I didn't have a way of expressing it or like know what
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Although there were so many examples, especially in Polynesian culture.
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There's so many examples of trans people just, you know, everyone has a trans aunt here
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So unwittingly, I, you know, was exposed to, to what Hawaii had to offer, but didn't really
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like come into it until I think when I started dance.
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I did ballet, jazz, hip hop, contemporary, modern, tap.
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Oh, man, they wouldn't let me because I wanted to do hula with the girls.
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I think it was around that time I started just performing like as a dancer and learning dance
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and like meeting my gay friends who are still my friends to this day.
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And we all grew up in, well, we all grew up all over Oahu, but our dance studio is based
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And I was like, you know, there were the kids that their parents could afford it.
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And then there were us kids whose parents couldn't.
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So we were on scholarship, which meant we had to, like, do the front desk and help people
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I don't know if we're talking about entire labor laws here, but.
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But it was all for free classes, but we were also required to take everything.
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So I think that really molded me because it made me be a well-rounded dancer.
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And then, like, right around there, like, high school graduation is when I started, like,
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Well, I'm like the only someone in the world that didn't get hit with that gene.
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I mean, I'm not going to disrespect my ancestors right now.
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When I was going to the University of Hawaii, like, it's a requirement that you take a Hawaiian
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And so my kumu was, like, first of all, came to school barefoot every day.
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And then, second, he could olelo so he would do it all the time for us, which is fascinating.
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So when you got into drag, like, what, other than the fantasy of it all, the pageantry
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or, like, or the attention, which we all love attention, right?
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Like, what made you want to, like, really, like, commit to it?
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I think drag, just because its origin is based on a fringe art form that was created for people
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who are not allowed in everyday spaces and weren't allowed to be.
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And so we made this safe space for us to create and be and express.
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This little queer thing that is now for everyone to enjoy.
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That's the thing that really excites me is the fact that you could be anything you wanted
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And I'm curious, like, how was your experience on Drag Race?
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Because most of my friends who have been on there, they're like, oh, girl, you couldn't
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I felt like Regina George, where, like, everyone's, like, going crazy at the end.
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I mean, but, I mean, there's so many aspects, you know?
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There's the competition part of just, like, being good on the runway, doing good on the
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Then there's, like, a reality show of you bare your soul, cry, like, give me your trauma
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Yeah, that's actually a really good point, yeah.
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I've never seen a reality show where you have to do everything, you know?
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The other day you have to, like, I don't know, you know, design and then write a song and
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See, I mean, the Sun and Moon literally rule me.
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And then my rising is Libra, so I need balance.
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When I had Bianca Del Rio on, we were talking about Drag Race, and I was like, it feels
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like American Ninja Warrior, but you have to look good.
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It's like, you know, come back and do it, but this time everyone's famous and has a lot
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Do everything again, but everybody has the same, like, the playing field.
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Like, that's why it's still the original is so good, because just watching.
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What's been the coolest thing that's come out of, like, Drag Race?
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And, like, obviously you've had, like, this huge explosion.
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Like, what's been the coolest thing you've done so far?
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There's so many things I got to do this, the year of my reign, I guess you could say.
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I got to do a lot of things for, like, our Native Hawaiian Foundation.
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Um, I got presented with the Trailblazer Award, which was really cool to be, uh, acknowledged
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Um, got to make a music video, make songs, do a tour.
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I was going to ask about culture, too, because obviously we're both Polynesian queens, look
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Um, and as far as, like, your culture, I know you, you're someone who I admire, especially
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because you make it a prominent part of your platform as well, is to talk about your culture
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And I'm curious how that experience has been, like, because in my experience, too, like,
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I'm, like, the first someone when people, a lot of people meet in these spaces, and
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they're very, like, oh, I've never, I've never met someone like that before.
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I'm, like, well, you ever been, like, to a football game?
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So I'm curious how it's been, how that experience has been for you, like, kind of being the first
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Kanaka woman in most spaces, especially in the entertainment industry.
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The interesting thing is, you know, I look pretty ethnically ambiguous.
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I'm not what you would think a native Hawaiian person looks like, a Kanaka moode looks like.
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I mean, to be honest, when I grew up, I was, like, blonde hair.
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My Hawaiian name is Ili Kea, which means fair-skinned one.
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Indigenous names, they're real on the nose, aren't they?
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Yeah, it sounds pretty, and you're like, it means white skin.
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But I got picked on a lot for being holly or not looking like.
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Yeah, and I was, you know, it was hard, and it was, like, an identity crisis also being
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Not knowing, being so othered in so many intersections.
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But now, being the spokesperson for a group of people that told me I wasn't valid to represent
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When the body's like, oh, sister, you did good, huh?
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It's a very strange situation to be in when you're growing up, too, because part of the
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reason why I went to the University of Hawaii, like, other than, because I had other, like,
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final schools, but I chose that one specifically because I loved, like, the program and everything
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that I wanted to enroll in, but mostly I wanted to be closer to culture.
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And I wanted to, like, be closer to my own people, learn more about my own people.
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And I did, but I do understand that feeling of feeling othered within our own communities.
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Naturally, especially when, as women, too, and you're obviously as a trans woman, it's
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You end up being, like, it's almost like you circle back around and you come back and they're
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Yeah, they're very, it's a very strange feeling.
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Like, I had to actually just shed that, you know, that history and that trauma.
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And let that go and receive, like, oh, when I got to go back home for Hawaii Pride.
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They, you know, I performed at the Waikiki Shell, which is incredible.
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And seeing so many generations there, like, seeing, like, the old gray hair kupunas and
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aunties and all the way to, like, kids and just seeing, they would be proud of little
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It's such a wonderful, I feel like, representation.
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Like, you represent so many different marginalized groups all in one.
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But I also think it's a beautiful thing that you're Polynesian, too.
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Because we never get any recognition past The Rock.
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You know, they're just like, I need a big brown guy.
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TM, by the way, if anyone wants to make one of those.
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We can remake that movie Twins, like, with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito.
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I'm curious, too, like, when you go into these entertainment spaces, it's, like, very...
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I feel like, especially in the beginning for me...
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Well, me especially, because I'm just a dickhead on the internet.
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But, like, when I would go into these spaces other than just being an asshole on the internet,
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I was also, like, the only Polynesian person ever.
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And I feel, even during AAPI month, sometimes it's a little frustrating, because they're, like,
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I was just talking about this with Aldi Carvalho.
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For the Pacific Islanders, Pacificas, in entertainment.
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And we talked about being the only, you know, Kanakas in the room, or being the only
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Getting othered, getting stereotyped, you know?
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Not just Hawaiian women, but for a lot of AAPI women in general, in films, you know,
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you're just relegated to being, like, the femme fatale.
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And it's almost like the temptress that you have to, like, avoid.
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And there's so much strength in a Polynesian woman.
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There's so much strength in, like, I mean, all the Polynesian women I know and grew up
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And I also think that those are a lot of the stories that I have yet to see be made.
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We have done so many video games and comic books and redone movies over and over again.
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But there's this untapped, like, lineage of all this mythology, all these stories.
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And it's, like, it's very frustrating, too, I feel like, because even when they...
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It's, like, with good intention that they approach.
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And then when you bring it up to them, they're like, ugh.
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Like, I do want to be there, but not like that.
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I won't say who it was, but it was, like, something for AAPI Month.
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But they, when they sent me the pitch, I was like, okay, like, I'm open to it, because
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they were, like, they're an organization, and I was like, okay, when they sent me the
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pitch for what they wanted from me, it was only talking about Asian Americans.
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And I was like, okay, maybe I should have been more clear.
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And they were like, well, yeah, but we are, like, Asian American focused.
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And I literally had to say no, because I was like, they just kind of refused to meet
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I was like, okay, I'll mention that, but we should, if I'm talking about it, I should
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It can be very frustrating sometimes, during the month of May, specifically.
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You know, May and June are pretty rough for me.
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I was going to say, you've got your work in two months in a row, bitch.
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When I, like, obviously met Bretman and we became friends, I was, like, telling a girl
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So you can get ready for June, baby, for all the pride?
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I was like, yeah, and he was like, well, yeah, mine's May and June.
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How has been your journey on social media specifically?
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Were you a big social girl prior to Drag Race or anything like that?
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So I'm going to be 40, so I don't really know too much about the, I'm not, like, you know,
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Social media is an interesting sea to navigate, as you know.
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And I don't know, sometimes my ego may not be able to, may be a little too fragile sometimes.
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And then the Leo really needs some, like, gratification or some recognition, so.
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I tell myself a lot, you know, if you're scrolling, searching for those good comments, you have
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to be okay with the bad ones, and some days you're not, and so I just kind of put it down.
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Trying to enjoy life, but I do like just, you know, scrolling through my friends and seeing
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It's kind of hard, though, when you, like, pop up on your own algorithm.
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Sometimes I see stuff and I'm like, I was there.
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It's a, yeah, I have, my short-term memory is absolutely shot to hell now.
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And also, about your local girl, obviously, in 808, love that.
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Like, it's still the same family and friends that I have, my chosen family, all the trans
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girls, all my sisters and aunties and older trans, you know, icons and legends that I look
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And it's, like, four or five generations of queer people.
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And just knowing that, like, you know, we spend our whole lives together.
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And I don't think a lot of queer spaces or queer cultures are blessed enough to have
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I know in a lot of Pacifica cultures, there's space and community that the girls get to,
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I feel, too, like, I felt this even when I was in college and living in, when I lived
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in Hawaii for a while, that the community and the warmth, the attitude towards mahu women
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in general or fafofinis in general in Polynesia is much different than it is on the mainland.
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Like, the attitude towards them is so loving and warm.
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Obviously, there are outliers, like, people who are just bigoted naturally.
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And that's something they're fighting internally.
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Okay, if you like it, you can smell it a mile away, baby.
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If you smell the bacon and you like it, baby, I'm sorry for you.
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You're literally, like, genuinely, you're like, you're not fooling anybody.
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I mean, how do you think every doll is made from somebody's dad?
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Even with all my trans girlfriends, like, they're always like, you would be shocked.
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And they just, like, don't have the fucking nads to do it publicly.
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We don't want you to know that we would you either.
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Oh, I don't need anybody to know that I'm talking to you.
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Yeah, don't tell anyone that I'm talking to you.
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When I was in Hawaii, like, the love and warmth towards mahu people in general is something I wished was always here.
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Like, it's and that's why when I've talked about gender as a construct before on my platform, I've talked about how, like, prior to colonization, like, my people did not adhere to a gender binary.
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There was no, like, you man do this, woman do this, and only two.
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My sister and I were just talking about this the other day, that, like, our understanding of mahu people or favafines was completely different.
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Like, that was not something that was ever othered in my home and my family.
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Also, like, I think especially, like, in, like, non-Pacifica cultures, I think it's very much sexualized, too.
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It's sort of like, you know, it's just fetishized so much, but it's just, you know, because how women are treated in society, you know, and men, from my personal experience, tend to treat you in how much they would like to fuck you, right?
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And they have a gauge, and especially if all of a sudden you're a trans person and they already gauged your number, it does something to them.
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And it's, even when I came online, like, I started, like, seeing a lot of hate towards trans women, because I've defended trans women, and I'll defend them until I die.
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Like, genuinely, I could not conceptualize being angry at trans people, literally at all, because that's not how I grew up.
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Why don't you mind your white business, is what I always think.
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Don't you have a boat to clean, or a fish to hold?
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Shout out to every Tinder guy who ever had a fish in their profile that has liked me.
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They're going to go all over the place, including in the animal world.
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In the last few days, it's been a while, because I've been kicking the shit out of men for a minute,
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They avoid me actively, which is smart, and they don't do very many smart things.
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It feels very like two years ago to me, but when they're coming back, I'm like, you know,
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Let me go take care of this, and I'll come back.
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Or I don't know if they're straight men or bots or...
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Their boyfriend or husband probably fucked a trans woman and not even added every trans woman.
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Sometimes they sneak past security on my place.
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I'm like, oh, bitch, you better get out of here.
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Because I don't like when they're like, oh, I'm a huge fan of you.
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When I get hate from women, it's very, like, annoying to me.
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So, and if trans women are being attacked, it's only a matter of time before it comes to cis
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And it honestly leads into our topic for today, which is, like, talking about breaking down
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mainstream society's insistence on a gender binary, right?
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And why bigoted people online are so afraid of fluidity or anything that exists outside
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of a binary, which we've already talked about as a consequence of colonization and white
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And I feel like online, it's like a tale as old as time, which is, like, they get real
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And I feel like, because you're a local girl, I feel this about you.
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That's how I feel about me, too, where it's like, it's because you can tell I'm with the
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Because sometimes people ask me, do people ever come to you in person and, like, talk
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That's our topic for today, but I'm going to read some of these videos.
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So, in this one, this is an on the street style video.
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And their response include a guy with bleached blonde hair and skinny jeans.
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And then someone else saying, I don't have any.
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Well, if you called him a she, her, he'd get real mad.
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They're like, how do I know what to call them if I don't know what they are?
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I've thought before, too, when people freak out about pronouns, I always think, do you
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know how, like, how bigoted you have to be consistently for it to be hard for you to
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Like, they're like, well, what am I supposed to do now?
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Like, I just like to normalize calling everyone they and them and having, you know, totally
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Honestly, one time I had someone say that it was fucked up of me to call someone a bitch
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And I was like, and here you are acting like a bitch.
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So the comments on this video, this one says, what you don't understand is that this is
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You know what's funny is 90% of the world has been colonized.
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So yeah, I'm sure there's plenty of you all over the world in places you're not supposed
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Do you ever wonder, like, when you go to Hawaii, like, or we go back home.
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Sometimes if I'm, like, if I'm with friends and they're white or whatever.
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And him and his brother have two different dads with the same mom.
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And my boyfriend's afkasi, which is, like, half.
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And thankfully, their mom is beautiful because both of their dads are ugly as fuck.
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We took, he went to Hawaii with us for the first time last year.
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The way that bitch was lobster fucking red after two hours.
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My sister was, like, put a shirt on and go in the ocean.
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But he, like, refused to wear one because we were all.
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They were, like, with the puddle and, like, an umbrella.
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The point is to sit on the sand and roast like you're in a toaster oven.
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Are you trying to even the tan or is that just because?
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I, like, I wear one big t-shirt, my bathing suit.
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The same swimsuit all the whole time because you go on different tan lines.
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Oh, I have a whale stamp, tramp thingy over here.
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I just got a big back tattoo, like, a big tribal down my back.
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I'm thinking about bringing it all the way down.
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Even if you get really high and go, you don't think.
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Me just, like, pulling my top down so I can show you.
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But I remember my tattoo artist, he's someone, too.
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And, girl, the first, like, first of all, when he was sketching on me, because my artist,
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So I just kind of show him the shape I want, and then he'll use a Sharpie, draw it on me,
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show me in a mirror, and I'll be like, yep, looks good.
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And then he just tattoos it on me, like a real fob.
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So when he was drawing on me with the pen, I said, oh, that hurts.
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I was like, that's covering a lot of real estate in there.
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But when he first drew it, it was kind of hurting already.
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But I didn't cry, and I did stay awake the whole time.
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But I did feel like I was being, like, strapped to a board, leather belt in my mouth.
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But my point is, the second session, because he shaded the whole thing, but then he had to
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do the gray shading, which is the hardest part, or one of the hardest parts.
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So, like, when he came back the next day, I was like, the thought of having to go through
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And then he brought me the numbing cream, which I thought was bullshit.
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And so, but then when you have to wrap yourself, and so it can sink in for, like, an hour.
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Speaking of rotisserie chicken, like, my man literally had to saran wrap my entire body.
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So, it was like a nine before, then it was like a four.
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This one says, this is a loaded question in today's society.
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If you think them saying, I don't have any favorite pronouns is worse than my pronouns,
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Sometimes I think, I think that they think we're stupid.
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So, it's kind of like, I mean, like, it's one of those things where I'm like, you're so
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It's like, is it even worth it trying to explain it to you?
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When you see crazy coming at you, you cross the street.
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Or if you live in LA, you just act crazier than the person coming at you.
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Sorry, like, Last of Us, or just, like, clacking, zombified.
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Okay, and this next one, it's a skit video where a college student is reenacting a situation
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where he was at school, and he realizes he's lost on the first day, finds a school TA,
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My name is Miss Smith, and my pronouns are she, her, what can I do for you?
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And then his bio is, gotta respect the pronouns, and he's throwing up emoji.
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Like, he's basically saying, this teacher is being inclusive, and that makes me want
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This first comment says, bro, when my dumbass liberal teachers were asking us what ours
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were, I said, normal, and they started bitching.
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That's the hard part, especially with, like, kids.
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Like, you wish, like, the amount of deep programming we have to do to ourselves.
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From, like, the craziness that our parents put on a lot of kids.
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Like, and it's also, it lends towards, why does inclusivity make you feel like your position
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We're just kind of expanding it to include other people-ish.
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And even if you, you can't even really apply that to all trans people, because trans people
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Technically, trans people are, like, you know, we prescribe to the binary.
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You know, where there's that, you know, there's a box to check off of what your gender is.
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I don't have time to get in other people's business.
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Well, I notice happy people tend to not care about what other people are doing.
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See, like, if you were getting laid, you wouldn't be acting like that.
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You'd be like, actually, I guess I don't hate trans people.
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All these people, I would love them to drop their Google search or their Pornhub search.
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I was on the Drew Barrymore show, like, a week or two ago, and they posted, like, a real
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And I got a comment yesterday from this guy, and he wrote out this whole thing.
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Then he keeps going, and then he's like, I bet this is the girl that, like, she only goes
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for looks, and, like, she only goes for tall men.
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And then I responded, and I said, this is the most pathetic thing I've ever read.
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I was like, you're literally admitting that you're-
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And I was like, and so you're admitting I made that pee-pee wiggle a little.
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Anyways, when I see shit like that, I'm like, you're telling on yourself, babe.
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And I feel like men do that in your comments a lot.
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You can call me a lot of things, but never ugly.
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Especially when I do, like, big things, like, for, like, PBS or, like, The Daily Show.
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Not my completely curated audience, you know, so then, here we go.
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Like, within Polynesian culture in general, like, beauty, like, what is considered beautiful
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to us is completely different than what's considered beautiful to white people.
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Like, my idea of beauty in, like, women or men or whomever, what your perception of beauty
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So, like, it's the same thing with, like, build and everything.
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Like, obviously, Polynesian people are built very differently than any other minority.
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So, when they say things like, like, oh, you're just big and manly, you goddamn right
00:44:04.440
Yeah, yeah, you goddamn right I am, bitch, and I would remember that.
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I made a joke like that because I've had some friends, like, some of my friends who come
00:44:13.260
on who are someone, and I've told them, I was like, I could literally, like, when
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they call me a linebacker or some shit like that, I'm like, you want to be built like
00:44:27.000
And I was like, and also, like, they're like, get this bitch back to, like, the Ravens
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Like, I should be on the, I was like, you know what's so ironic is I could make the Ravens.
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And last names are really important in Polynesian culture.
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When you were talking about the 75 and 100 percent, every man in my family has our last name in
00:45:15.800
I was like, let me get some tits before they ask me to put it on my back, bitch.
00:45:42.780
My dad and uncle would be like, well, you have to when, you know, so they know your actual
00:46:00.760
Girl, if I get arrested, it's for something big.
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Girl, we got bigger problems, if that's the case.
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Oh, also, this is something I wanted to mention, because I love your laugh, and it's very similar
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I'm sure you know, because you've grown up alongside many Polynesians.
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But I've had a lot of people ask me about the laugh, especially white people.
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I've told people, I'm like, Polynesian people all laugh like me.
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That's how we find each other, like sonar, like whales.
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Okay, this one says, I just use whatever pronoun you look like.
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It's your fault if you want to get offended when you're confusing the fuck out of people.
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Again, it's like, and also a lot of times, too, I'm like, the people who consistently complain
00:47:22.120
You are never going to cross paths with a trans person.
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The trans community as a whole actively avoids people like you.
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Yeah, it's like, pretty obvious where, like, we are not welcome.
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And then, that's why when they say the shit about, like, the drag band and they were trying
00:47:49.600
to talk about kids or whatever, I'm like, you don't give a fuck about kids, first
00:47:55.120
So, like, they don't want to be near your kids, girl.
00:48:16.500
I'll give you a different kind of reading, for sure.
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But, I mean, maybe, like, parents should read to their kids.
00:48:36.220
I have, like, a niece, and she has two kids, 9 and 10.
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I was like, I was like, I'm going to come and, like, hang out with them in Portland.
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I have this day early in, like, about 20 minutes.
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They're 9 and 10, so now they're just yelling at each other.
00:49:05.020
Then my niece, the mom, is, like, completely zoned out.
00:49:09.320
Like, she's at that level where she doesn't even hear it anymore.
00:49:17.980
I was like, I need a two, like, I need a two-grammer infused.
00:49:23.440
It has to be a lot in my hotel room for me to be outside downtown Portland.
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Okay, bitch, you don't have to worry about that.
00:49:49.740
I'm not letting you in my fucking show if you bring those.
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Especially when you don't know what you're doing.
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I'm like, I'm cool with being an awesome, rich aunt.
00:50:24.140
And then when you start getting annoying, I give you back to your parents.
00:50:47.040
Like, the price range of their gifts that they were asking for has jumped.
00:51:13.820
Like, he doesn't give a fuck, like, about me being.
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Because I've obviously known him since he was born.
00:51:20.160
It's, like, this, like, online creator convention thing.
00:51:23.240
And the first year I did it, like, he was going because Mr. Beast was going.
00:51:29.100
And then my mom was like, oh, hey, like, we're going to be there, too.
00:51:32.240
And we're like, yeah, we really want to see him.
00:51:35.140
And he, like, told his mom, who told us, he was like, I'll let them know if I can fit them in.
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And he's like, well, I have a lot of Mr. Beast stuff to get to.
00:51:50.740
I'm like, no, yeah, let me know if that schedule opens up, player.
00:51:53.060
I'll go ahead and see if I can come and meet you.
00:51:56.720
Yeah, he's like, well, I'll let them know if I can fit them in.
00:52:00.300
Even my brother, my brother who's 19, like, literally the other day, he was at my house
00:52:05.140
and he was just hanging out with me and my boyfriend.
00:52:07.020
And then he's like, all right, I'm going to go home.
00:52:15.160
And I was like, yeah, like, you're always welcome over here.
00:52:17.880
And then my brother looks me in the eyes and goes, I'll let you know.
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I'm just calling you to tell you I'm not talking to you.
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It's one of those things where it's like, we'll see something.
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Sometimes I think, too, like, because I, like, have a someone family, when men try to write
00:53:14.200
hate on my shit, I'm like, you're going to have to come harder than that, girl.
00:53:28.660
It's like how you said that, like, baby, if you want to play, you can play.
00:53:36.460
And it's one of, even with most Polynesian families, I have a lot of Kanaka friends, too.
00:53:40.480
Like, they do not fuck around when we're, like, making fun of each other.
00:54:14.600
But first, I do want to know, what would be your best piece of advice, specifically for the PI girls?
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Maybe who want to get into drag or get into entertainment as a whole.
00:54:24.380
And obviously, representation is moving in the right direction, albeit very, very slow.
00:54:29.860
But obviously, they have someone like you now to look up to.
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Like, what would be your best piece of advice for them if they're looking to get into the world?
00:54:36.380
But maybe they feel a little lost or maybe not wanted in those spaces.
00:54:46.820
But I think for any PI woman, queer person, anyone really, any Pacifica person that is interested in entertainment, is interested in being part of what entertainment is, which is storytelling, right?
00:55:06.600
And, you know, as Pacific Islanders, that's what we are.
00:55:20.080
So, when I think about doing drag, that's my form of being a cultural practitioner.
00:55:27.020
And I think when you are thinking about getting into entertainment and you think about even drag, like, it's really about intention.
00:55:36.100
Like, do you want to be in a drag race or do you want to tell stories?
00:55:41.740
And I find that when you, your intention is to do what we naturally have flowing through our veins.
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That's when success comes and then that's when it's easy.
00:55:58.140
And, honestly, especially in the entertainment business, we have to start making our own stories, our own paths.
00:56:04.280
So, I encourage not just, you know, wanting to go into acting and doing something that's famous or a movie star.
00:56:13.280
You know, be the ones that make the stories, the producers, the screenwriters.
00:56:17.080
Because those are the people that are in charge of making sure that those projects reflect us.
00:56:22.840
You can tell when there's a queer person in the editing room or in the writer's room.
00:56:27.760
You can tell when there's, you know, I've read a script a while ago and I would say, it sounds like it's right there being Hawaiian.
00:56:40.240
It's, you know, that brown gravy on the loco moco.
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Fried chicken and chili with cheese, rice, extra mac salad.
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My uncle Safi, who's like, he's lived in Hawaii his entire fucking life and Samoa.
00:57:16.160
And you know, I remember because I was like fried chicken and chili.
00:57:28.280
I mean, you go to a 7-Eleven, you can fuck it up.
00:57:40.160
Even the sushi and like the little bentos that they have heated.
00:58:11.620
I was like, only white people can go out with sharks.
00:58:20.860
One of my friends is like, how far out can I go?
00:58:26.240
When my white friend was like, I think I'm going to swim there.
00:58:28.180
I said, bitch, you're not going to make it there.
00:58:31.680
And my friend, my one girl, we were on the kayak.
00:58:42.680
Then we capsized, obviously, because we don't know what we're doing.
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My friend was literally swimming and she was holding the pipe like this.
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The amount of white people shit I did when I lived in Hawaii.
00:59:14.500
And they were like, you got to go see the sunrise.
00:59:18.440
And I said, this is what happens when I follow white people.
00:59:34.000
When I was walking up running the first time, I'm like, where's the waterfall?
00:59:57.920
And this guy was looking at my boyfriend has like a really big tribal.
01:00:03.420
And he's like, you know, I was thinking about getting one of those, like a Polynesian.
01:00:09.060
And I asked my homegirl and she's, he said, she's Samoan.
01:00:12.640
And then he was like, I asked her if I could get one.
01:00:14.980
And she said, if I got it, my bloodlines would be cursed.
01:00:28.240
So I'll pass that to you in case you ever see anyone that's trying to get Kanaka tattoos.
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Like if you were in the military on Kaneohe military base.
01:01:03.700
I had never developed a hatred quite like I had for military people specifically than when
01:01:16.040
And they fetishize the fuck out of local girls.
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We're like just going to like Zippy's and they're like.
01:01:39.900
Well, thank you so much for coming on this show.
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Like, I genuinely cannot wait to see, like, how far your career goes.
01:02:20.280
I'm sure everybody already knows where you are.
01:02:26.000
You can find me on social media on every platform.
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And I'll be touring and visiting cities near you.
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But if you don't, make sure you follow and keep up with her.
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