The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - RAGE BAITING! Ft. Smosh

00:00:00.000 My first Frenchie that I had, he was having stomach issues and like was blowing shit out of his ass like a flare gun, like all over the wall.

00:00:07.340 I was like, oh, and then at like the crack of dawn, we went to the specialist.

00:00:11.260 She like came in and was like, oh, I need you to sign this.

00:00:13.760 And I signed it.

00:00:14.240 She's like, by the way, I'm such a big fan.

00:00:16.960 Can I take a picture with you?

00:00:18.060 No.

00:00:18.900 And I was like, well.

00:00:20.180 You're like crying.

00:00:21.320 And she's like, by the way, can I get a photo?

00:00:24.360 She's like, why are you being a bitch?

00:00:30.000 Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your fave.

00:00:37.860 Everybody knows me.

00:00:38.760 Who cares about me?

00:00:40.220 On to the guests.

00:00:42.380 Today, we have two iconic legendary YouTubers, the one and only Smock.

00:00:49.960 A.K.A. Ian and Anthony.

00:00:51.840 Hello.

00:00:52.440 Welcome to the show.

00:00:53.580 Hi.

00:00:54.080 Thank you.

00:00:54.920 I'm happy to be in the presence of greats.

00:00:57.540 Oh.

00:00:58.080 What?

00:00:58.380 YouTube greats.

00:00:59.260 Who paid you to say that?

00:01:00.600 We're like great grandfathers.

00:01:02.760 Yeah.

00:01:03.180 We're very, very old.

00:01:04.980 You are a lot older than me.

00:01:06.180 I'm just kidding.

00:01:06.740 Yeah.

00:01:07.480 We're pushing 50.

00:01:09.820 I mean, closer to 40 than we are 30 now.

00:01:12.520 That's true.

00:01:13.220 That's true.

00:01:14.160 I'm honored to have you on the show.

00:01:16.100 Thanks for having us.

00:01:16.920 When I think of like original content creators, I think of people like y'all.

00:01:22.180 Okay.

00:01:22.480 Like people who like really pioneered like a new wave of like job employment.

00:01:29.360 Yeah.

00:01:30.480 I'm thankful for it now.

00:01:32.140 I'm thankful for it.

00:01:33.440 So am I.

00:01:34.120 Because we didn't think this was going to be a job.

00:01:36.900 No.

00:01:37.600 Well, that's actually kind of what I want to start with.

00:01:40.080 I'm so curious to know how y'all fell into YouTube and how it like started.

00:01:43.700 Because obviously I know your YouTube arc.

00:01:46.640 Yeah.

00:01:46.820 But I'm curious how y'all got into YouTube in the first place.

00:01:49.280 It was all accidental, really.

00:01:51.040 Because we started making some videos just on our own with a webcam that I borrowed from my dad.

00:01:57.520 And we hosted it on the website that I was programming, Smosh.com.

00:02:02.920 And then we did a Google search and found that it was uploaded to this new site, YouTube, that we had never heard of.

00:02:09.120 And that's how we found it.

00:02:10.560 It was like it was all just an accident.

00:02:11.860 And how do y'all know each other originally?

00:02:14.240 Like how did you start making videos together?

00:02:16.120 Yeah.

00:02:16.420 We've been friends since sixth grade, but we didn't really make videos until like we got out of high school.

00:02:23.460 So it was like we were just kind of like, had we ever made a video before?

00:02:27.460 Not really.

00:02:27.940 We made like flash animations and stuff because I was popular in early internet days.

00:02:31.980 Yeah.

00:02:32.700 And we weren't even super close as friends.

00:02:34.700 But then Ian started bumming rides off me in high school.

00:02:37.880 And then we became close friends.

00:02:39.480 I don't know where you started with this propaganda.

00:02:41.020 I don't know if that's totally true.

00:02:45.140 That's in my head, the narrative.

00:02:46.620 And I'm going with that until the day I die.

00:02:48.020 I feel like he started this canon like two years ago.

00:02:52.640 It's actually not true to the Lord.

00:02:53.800 He like soft launched this.

00:02:55.460 He wasn't really my friend until he bumped right up.

00:02:57.580 He's been microdosing it over the last 10 years.

00:02:59.880 Yeah.

00:03:00.040 Testing the waters with that.

00:03:01.820 And like I think my problem was that because I don't trust my memory.

00:03:07.900 So I'm gaslighting him and then I'm like, this is the new story, bro.

00:03:11.320 This is the new narrative and arc we're going with.

00:03:13.740 Yeah.

00:03:13.760 Because he said it once and I was just like, yeah.

00:03:16.180 Yeah.

00:03:16.500 Okay.

00:03:16.880 Yeah.

00:03:17.120 You're Florence Pugh in Don't Worry Darling.

00:03:19.660 Don't remind me.

00:03:22.120 He put you to sleep.

00:03:23.100 Dude, that movie.

00:03:24.220 Oh, God.

00:03:25.360 Not a fan.

00:03:26.220 I mean, it was one of the worst movies I saw in theater ever.

00:03:29.980 But it was like funny.

00:03:31.320 She was great in it.

00:03:31.940 We were laughing our asses off.

00:03:33.320 Yeah.

00:03:33.680 That's how I felt about anyone but you.

00:03:35.380 Have you all seen that movie?

00:03:36.360 The Sidney Sweeney one?

00:03:38.020 No.

00:03:38.220 Oh, but that was like super successful though, right?

00:03:40.720 Yeah.

00:03:41.400 Confused as to why.

00:03:42.260 But like, I mean, love her.

00:03:43.740 It's not good.

00:03:44.640 No, not even a little bit.

00:03:46.120 It's not like funny?

00:03:47.100 No, not even a little bit.

00:03:48.300 It's funny because it's so bad.

00:03:50.280 It's like, wow.

00:03:51.560 Yeah.

00:03:51.780 You know?

00:03:52.300 Like, that's what it's funny.

00:03:53.080 But it's like two hot people on screen.

00:03:55.400 And I think that's why I did well.

00:03:56.580 Yeah, sure.

00:03:57.140 Good on you.

00:03:58.020 Happy for you.

00:03:59.040 Unfortunately, some of us have to be funny for a living.

00:04:01.540 Unfortunately.

00:04:02.720 Yeah.

00:04:03.740 Dude, that sucks.

00:04:04.720 Sucks for us, man.

00:04:06.380 Sorry.

00:04:06.780 Good for them.

00:04:08.080 We're rich trolls compared to Sidney Sweeney.

00:04:10.320 So, all right.

00:04:11.160 I mean, isn't everyone?

00:04:11.960 Okay, so y'all, you started bumming rides and that's how you began.

00:04:16.340 Yeah, I've been contemplating.

00:04:17.660 You know, I want to fix the narrative now.

00:04:20.000 I'm sorry for coming out, for gaslighting you.

00:04:22.480 But I will say that we became closer friends because we were forced to be in the car spending

00:04:28.560 time after school together.

00:04:29.860 That's true.

00:04:30.420 Played video games at your place.

00:04:31.640 We hung out at my place.

00:04:33.000 We're bored.

00:04:34.100 And then we picked up the camera and started messing around.

00:04:35.800 Totally.

00:04:36.240 Totally.

00:04:36.720 Yeah.

00:04:36.860 And then when you saw that it was put on YouTube, like, what was the initial reaction?

00:04:43.000 I think.

00:04:43.820 From y'all and audience.

00:04:45.040 Yeah.

00:04:45.720 There were like, there were a very little amount of people that interacted with it.

00:04:49.580 It was like 12 people that interacted with it.

00:04:52.240 And they were like, whoa, funny.

00:04:54.480 Ooh.

00:04:54.700 And we were like, is this a platform that we should consider putting our stuff on?

00:05:01.780 Yeah.

00:05:02.280 And it was free.

00:05:03.420 Yeah, exactly.

00:05:04.240 Because people don't realize that in the early days of the internet, there weren't just like

00:05:09.280 platforms that you could upload video to for free.

00:05:11.300 Yeah.

00:05:11.740 And if you hosted it on your own website, the more views that it got, the more that you'd

00:05:16.280 be paying for bandwidth.

00:05:18.000 And there was no way to make money.

00:05:20.160 Yeah.

00:05:20.300 So it was just like, oh, I'm.

00:05:21.200 You're just spending money.

00:05:21.800 You were just losing money.

00:05:23.100 Yeah, I'm just paying for people to watch my webcam videos.

00:05:26.860 Yeah.

00:05:27.200 You're like, this is stupid.

00:05:28.720 You're upside down in the business already.

00:05:30.400 Yeah.

00:05:31.540 So yeah, it's not a good business.

00:05:35.100 Wasn't a good business plan.

00:05:36.980 No.

00:05:37.560 At the beginning.

00:05:38.080 Not at all.

00:05:39.040 Not at all.

00:05:39.080 When did you guys decide to like really lock in and kind of do this together?

00:05:43.440 And like, you're like, I think this could turn into something.

00:05:45.600 Was it just like consistently putting out videos and seeing like traction or was it?

00:05:49.940 I mean, the, uh, you know, I got into it just for the attention, really.

00:05:56.260 Yeah.

00:05:56.660 I got into it.

00:05:57.120 I feel the void in my heart as well.

00:05:58.660 That's fair.

00:05:59.000 That's valid.

00:05:59.540 Yeah.

00:05:59.760 I crave the attention.

00:06:00.240 It made me feel important.

00:06:01.320 I think you have to like attention to some extent in order to do this for a living.

00:06:04.680 Oh, yeah.

00:06:05.020 There's no way.

00:06:05.500 Oh, yeah.

00:06:05.740 The people that are the best at it are the most extreme narcissists.

00:06:09.160 No, uh, but I, I think like, I mean, it was just crazy cause it's, that's not like, we

00:06:16.620 didn't make these videos with any intention of it being like popular.

00:06:20.680 We didn't even know that you could become popular for making internet videos.

00:06:24.100 It was just like, oh, we made like some silly videos and then people started watching her

00:06:29.140 like, what is this?

00:06:31.440 Um, so we just kind of like rode the momentum.

00:06:34.380 We just kept making more and more people kept watching them.

00:06:37.620 So then we just kept doing it.

00:06:39.340 Um, and, uh, and then, yeah, a little bit down the road, it started making some money

00:06:45.680 and then we were like, oh, like maybe this, like, maybe it's not a career, but maybe we

00:06:50.760 can like make this like a sustainable thing or like turn it into like a small business while

00:06:57.760 we're going to college.

00:06:59.880 Um, and so that was kind of the initial plan.

00:07:02.480 And then, and then like, once we started making like decent money, then we're like, oh, we

00:07:06.480 can put college on hold and just focus on like making YouTube videos.

00:07:12.440 Oh, okay.

00:07:12.860 So you guys dropped out at the same time?

00:07:14.440 Are you guys both?

00:07:15.240 Yeah.

00:07:15.840 Yeah.

00:07:16.240 Yeah.

00:07:16.400 Yeah.

00:07:16.540 We're both, um, professional dropouts.

00:07:18.760 Yep.

00:07:19.580 Uh, thank God it worked out.

00:07:21.120 I know.

00:07:21.800 Right.

00:07:22.280 Well, they were a little bit like, but also I was like, we can always go back if we really

00:07:27.740 have to.

00:07:28.280 Right.

00:07:28.640 We can't, we can't actually go back to this moment where like, this is the perfect time

00:07:32.380 for this new platform that's taking off.

00:07:34.120 Yeah.

00:07:34.600 So that was our argument.

00:07:35.880 Yeah.

00:07:36.020 I was going to ask too, if you guys were doing it at the same time you were in college, cause

00:07:38.520 that would be fucking hard.

00:07:39.620 Cause I had already, I already graduated when I built the platform.

00:07:43.000 Yeah.

00:07:43.320 So I can't imagine having to do that at the same time of having to be a student.

00:07:46.820 I feel like there was less pressure back then though.

00:07:48.440 So, cause I think that we only released a video like every three weeks.

00:07:50.800 Yeah.

00:07:51.100 One video every three weeks.

00:07:52.320 Yeah.

00:07:52.500 It's not like Tik TOK where you have to put out three videos a day.

00:07:55.160 Yeah.

00:07:55.600 It was like, it was like, we were relevant.

00:07:57.700 Yeah.

00:07:58.020 Like we were putting out like, yeah, one video every three weeks.

00:08:00.980 Yeah.

00:08:01.280 And, and that was, that was considered consistent.

00:08:04.860 Yeah.

00:08:05.420 Well, honestly, cause at the time people just made one-off viral videos or just one-off videos

00:08:09.720 for their friends.

00:08:10.380 And there, there really wasn't like a continuous momentum that was even established.

00:08:14.900 Yeah.

00:08:15.420 Or people like following one specific person.

00:08:18.240 Yeah.

00:08:18.620 See that just their content.

00:08:20.040 Like, yeah, exactly.

00:08:20.740 There were very few people that made consistent content with a consistent audience.

00:08:24.500 Yeah.

00:08:24.960 Was there a video where y'all like, it went super, super viral and you guys were like, Ooh,

00:08:31.020 like this could, maybe this could be something or like, Ooh, like a bad thing is back then

00:08:36.120 going viral was always a good thing.

00:08:37.940 Now it's going to be a horrible thing.

00:08:39.720 Sure.

00:08:40.060 Yeah.

00:08:40.480 Oh yeah.

00:08:41.160 A lot of times it's a horrible thing.

00:08:43.080 Yeah.

00:08:43.480 I think of like, yeah.

00:08:44.900 And going viral back then was different because going viral back then would mean like a hundred

00:08:48.580 thousand views in a day.

00:08:49.560 Yeah.

00:08:49.880 Like that was just crazy.

00:08:51.880 Uh, but no, it was actually one of our first videos.

00:08:54.380 So we didn't even get a chance to like feel out what this world was like before going

00:08:59.520 viral, which is the weirdest thing to say.

00:09:01.820 Yeah.

00:09:02.180 It was our first video that we uploaded specifically for YouTube.

00:09:05.920 It was like a week after we made our account.

00:09:08.380 Damn.

00:09:09.040 Yeah.

00:09:09.520 Guess we're just lucky like that.

00:09:10.880 Sorry.

00:09:11.320 Like, guess we're viral now.

00:09:12.960 Pretty, pretty, pretty privilege.

00:09:16.420 Turns out you are like Sidney Sweeney.

00:09:18.020 Well, back then we were, we were, we were young, supple 18 year old boys.

00:09:22.460 So now you're a grown man.

00:09:25.340 Yeah.

00:09:25.600 We're, we're just, we're at all.

00:09:28.020 Just getting by.

00:09:28.760 We're so strung out at this point.

00:09:30.480 Yeah.

00:09:30.880 Like skins falling off.

00:09:33.860 When did you guys decide to like expand Smosh into more like the production side of things?

00:09:39.580 Was it after you guys had seen like we could, you know, maybe we could help other creators

00:09:43.980 or maybe we could platform other people.

00:09:45.600 Like what was the driving force behind that?

00:09:47.760 It was like five or six years after we started.

00:09:51.220 I think like we were, I think we were probably some of the first, because we were on the platform

00:09:56.820 so early, we had realized that burnout was a very real thing, probably earlier than a

00:10:05.000 lot of other creators.

00:10:05.940 Yeah.

00:10:06.160 I can only imagine.

00:10:06.760 And so like we, we were, we were talking and also talking to someone that was a business

00:10:12.820 partner of ours and we're talking about ways that we could like make this a sustainable

00:10:17.740 thing and like, how can we continue to do what we do, you know, five or 10 years later

00:10:24.020 and, and the decision was, or the realization was, was that we couldn't continue to do everything

00:10:31.260 with just, just me and him doing every facet for forever.

00:10:35.840 At that point where you guys still, you guys were filming, editing, uploading, like all on

00:10:39.880 ground still.

00:10:40.880 Yeah.

00:10:40.900 We had like a camera guy and that was about, that was about it.

00:10:44.380 And then Anthony would do all of the, all the editing for the sketches.

00:10:49.680 Um, and so, yeah, it was, it was just like, it was just a lot.

00:10:53.180 Yeah.

00:10:53.560 And, and I think like we had fortunately like realized that, you know, after, after, after

00:11:00.600 a few years, it was like, oh, you know, we were just doing YouTube every single day

00:11:06.180 and days are just blending into each other and just like, we didn't have a weekend.

00:11:09.820 We had nothing except this thing.

00:11:12.060 Just constantly filming, cutting.

00:11:14.000 Yeah.

00:11:14.740 And it was just like, of course, when you're 18 or 20, like you can do that.

00:11:19.880 Yeah.

00:11:20.120 Like you can just go hard, hard, hard, hard, hard and be fine.

00:11:23.380 Totally.

00:11:23.940 Um, but yeah, we, we were like, okay, maybe we should start treating this like a job and

00:11:29.860 like take weekends off.

00:11:31.440 Yeah.

00:11:31.700 Not like our life.

00:11:33.280 It's not like everything we do always.

00:11:35.320 Yeah.

00:11:35.780 Yeah.

00:11:35.980 Totally.

00:11:36.720 Um, and so I haven't seen the sun in a couple of weeks.

00:11:39.740 So yeah.

00:11:40.420 When I started getting vitamin, vitamin deficiencies, that was the wake up call.

00:11:45.400 Yeah.

00:11:45.720 Exactly.

00:11:46.520 I think I need to go touch grass or something.

00:11:48.720 Yeah.

00:11:49.200 Pet a dog, go outside.

00:11:51.260 Yeah.

00:11:51.460 That's like the hardest part I think about doing this is like, other than just being accountable.

00:11:55.060 Petting a dog?

00:11:55.660 No, not necessarily.

00:11:57.660 That's relatively easy.

00:11:58.940 I was like, uh, it's like doing this for a living.

00:12:02.280 It's like your whole entire life is online and your job, your like engagement, all of

00:12:07.420 that, your emails, your team, like all communication is online.

00:12:11.420 So you're like, I think I need to go like be a normal human and go outside or something.

00:12:15.620 What do you, what sort of, do you set up boundaries?

00:12:19.380 Like, are there certain things that you don't share online or do you go like, that's for

00:12:23.480 me?

00:12:23.980 Yeah.

00:12:24.260 All the time.

00:12:25.120 Okay.

00:12:25.360 All the time.

00:12:26.280 There's like, I, I, for a while I didn't share my brother because my little brother

00:12:30.100 just graduated from high school.

00:12:31.660 So he's 19 now.

00:12:33.160 And, uh, for a while I didn't share him because he went to public school and, uh, people are

00:12:39.060 weird and creepy.

00:12:39.880 And like, they were like, Oh, I think I know where, like my nail girl told me that some

00:12:44.160 girls that she was doing their nails, they were like, Oh, I know you're, you have drew

00:12:48.280 as a client.

00:12:48.800 Like I'm a big fan.

00:12:49.600 And she was like, okay.

00:12:50.840 Like, she's just real.

00:12:51.820 She doesn't share anything about me.

00:12:53.000 And then they were like, I think your brother's in high school.

00:12:54.860 Do you know if he goes to high school, like anywhere around here or like, and I was like,

00:12:59.000 what the fuck?

00:12:59.760 Like, I, I got really weirded out by it.

00:13:02.080 So there's a lot of boundaries I've set around family.

00:13:04.980 Yeah.

00:13:05.380 Like my home.

00:13:06.320 Cause some people are like, Oh, do a house tour.

00:13:08.440 And I'm like, uh, you're never getting a house tour.

00:13:11.140 Never.

00:13:11.900 You'll see one wall and that's it.

00:13:13.380 It's so tempting in the early days to, to like give people what they want.

00:13:17.800 But then it's just like, the more you give, the more they want.

00:13:20.540 Yeah.

00:13:20.940 And then they remember everything.

00:13:23.000 Right.

00:13:23.100 You got to do the architectural digest thing where like a lot of those celebrities, they

00:13:28.460 do the house tour and then they sell the house.

00:13:30.520 Yeah.

00:13:30.820 Right.

00:13:31.420 Or they do it when you know you're going to sell it or they do it right after they've

00:13:34.660 sold it or after.

00:13:35.960 Yeah.

00:13:36.200 But I think some of them use that as like a way to like boost the value of the house.

00:13:39.840 That's such good marketing though.

00:13:40.780 For real.

00:13:41.260 Yeah.

00:13:41.680 Wow.

00:13:42.180 Okay.

00:13:42.580 I'm going to log that away when I'm important enough to be in there.

00:13:44.880 Well, yeah.

00:13:45.840 I mean, you know, when you're about to sell your house, just hit up AD, hit up an interior

00:13:50.400 designer, fill that house with fucking bowls of lemons.

00:13:53.160 Yeah.

00:13:53.760 The limes.

00:13:54.560 I saw that one.

00:13:55.500 Dakota Johnson.

00:13:56.920 I saw, you know, that's, that's interesting.

00:13:59.000 You say that too.

00:13:59.480 Cause I remember when Kendall Jenner did one, like her, the guy who's like stalking her or

00:14:04.520 whatever, like found that house and everything.

00:14:06.080 And she was still living in it.

00:14:07.260 So that's like, I think she was planning on moving, but she hadn't yet.

00:14:10.540 And like, it's just shit like that.

00:14:12.380 I'm like, nah, I'm good.

00:14:13.380 Yeah.

00:14:13.740 I'm not sharing it.

00:14:14.560 I can't.

00:14:15.140 I, do y'all set boundaries like that.

00:14:16.960 You've been on the internet for a while.

00:14:18.380 So I'm curious to know your thoughts.

00:14:19.620 If it's like changed at all.

00:14:20.980 Yeah.

00:14:21.400 Like the parasocial relationship.

00:14:23.600 Yeah.

00:14:23.820 I mean, I used to put everything in my life on the internet.

00:14:26.120 I had relationships.

00:14:27.460 I had vlogs for years.

00:14:29.580 I just had everything on the internet.

00:14:31.180 He's like, yeah, you sure did.

00:14:32.660 He knew it was a bad choice.

00:14:34.540 He had a whole vlog channel.

00:14:35.940 Yeah.

00:14:36.120 And I disagreed with it.

00:14:37.240 He knew that.

00:14:38.300 He knew it was a bad idea at the time.

00:14:40.300 I'm like, you don't get it, man.

00:14:41.640 This is what people want.

00:14:42.820 You got to give them what they want.

00:14:43.800 It's true.

00:14:44.360 It is what they want.

00:14:45.100 Yeah.

00:14:45.340 You're right.

00:14:45.480 It turns out it was not a good idea.

00:14:47.560 But I had to learn the hard way.

00:14:49.240 It was successful.

00:14:49.900 But it doesn't even matter.

00:14:50.600 I had to learn the hard way.

00:14:51.720 Some shit.

00:14:52.260 You just got to learn the hard way.

00:14:53.340 Yeah.

00:14:53.700 I feel that's something.

00:14:55.320 I even talked about this yesterday with another creator, but I was like telling her this job is

00:15:00.340 so niche that the problems you have in this job, you would never learn

00:15:05.740 about in any other job.

00:15:07.540 There's just no way to know how to deal with it until you have to deal with it.

00:15:11.260 And then you learn from other people like, oh, that person had a stalker that found them

00:15:13.720 because of this thing.

00:15:14.580 You're like, exactly.

00:15:15.500 Okay.

00:15:15.900 I've told people my biggest piece of advice for you as a creator is to make other creator

00:15:19.600 friends.

00:15:19.980 Build community and lean on each other and ask for help and advice and all that because

00:15:25.960 that's what I had to do.

00:15:27.160 I'm like, I had such normal ass jobs before this.

00:15:30.000 Right.

00:15:30.440 I had no way.

00:15:31.400 When I was a server, they would not teach me how to make sure people can't find out where

00:15:35.480 I live.

00:15:36.340 Right.

00:15:36.560 How the fuck was I supposed to know that?

00:15:38.300 Right.

00:15:38.400 And I've told people, I'm like, your information is so readily available sometimes.

00:15:43.820 There's so many protocols you have to put in place in order to protect that.

00:15:47.620 You can't learn that shit in college.

00:15:49.120 No.

00:15:49.520 And you know, it's wild.

00:15:50.820 For example, when we started shooting our sketches back then, there wasn't any Google

00:15:56.160 Maps.

00:15:56.700 The most that you could really get was like MapQuest.

00:15:59.140 And that did not have satellite view.

00:16:00.980 It did not have Google Street View.

00:16:04.100 So we would just be like, whatever.

00:16:05.960 Well, we could just shoot anywhere we want.

00:16:08.500 And then we found out.

00:16:09.480 We'll just fly in the front of the house.

00:16:10.020 Yeah.

00:16:10.680 And then we found out like a few years later, like, oh shit, people could use Google Maps

00:16:16.100 now.

00:16:16.540 Now they can find us.

00:16:17.800 Perfectly pinpoint where you live.

00:16:19.360 And that's what they did.

00:16:20.220 And that was an issue.

00:16:21.260 Yeah.

00:16:21.520 That's crazy.

00:16:21.780 It was a huge issue for a while.

00:16:23.100 Everyone knew where we live.

00:16:24.280 I was curious how you guys dealt with like the parasocial like boundary crossing.

00:16:29.100 And it's more so like for people, they love you so much and they just like, they want

00:16:32.680 to show you how much they love you.

00:16:34.820 But sometimes it's too much.

00:16:35.960 It's like, it's okay.

00:16:37.320 I think, I think I would guess that streamers probably deal with this a little bit more

00:16:43.860 because there is even more of that direct like social engagement, parasocial kind of

00:16:51.000 relationship.

00:16:51.780 Totally.

00:16:52.020 Um, I think, I think because like we do comedy and a lot of our stuff is more like a joke

00:17:01.940 and less like personal, like, Hey, like we're friends.

00:17:06.540 Like, I think, I think our relationships with, with our viewers are a little bit, a little

00:17:13.880 bit better.

00:17:14.520 Yeah.

00:17:14.640 A little bit more removed.

00:17:15.600 Yeah.

00:17:16.080 Yeah.

00:17:16.480 Like, like I've never had, I don't think I've ever had like an extremely uncomfortable

00:17:21.500 interaction with, with somebody in, in, in real life.

00:17:25.180 Really?

00:17:26.200 Um, not even like, not even like when they recognize you.

00:17:28.660 There's one that I get, there's one that I can think of a bit on.

00:17:30.940 You're actually, I'm a liar.

00:17:31.780 That was like, okay, like you're, you're not taking social cues.

00:17:37.400 Um, yeah, that happens.

00:17:38.820 But what happened?

00:17:40.920 Oh, just, just the, you know, just some weird stuff.

00:17:45.820 I think I know which one you're talking about.

00:17:47.960 Yeah.

00:17:48.420 Maybe not worth mentioning.

00:17:50.220 I'll share one with you.

00:17:51.520 Um, when I, I think it was like early last year, I have a Frenchie.

00:17:56.820 Well, I have two Frenchies, but my, my first Frenchie that I had, um, he was having stomach

00:18:01.180 issues and like my boyfriend and I had to keep taking him to the vet, like over and over

00:18:04.920 again.

00:18:05.140 I was taking him to different vets, like, cause they just could not figure out what was wrong

00:18:08.480 with him and he would vomit all the time.

00:18:10.520 And it was just freaking me out.

00:18:11.580 So like at one point we took him to a specialist because I genuinely thought he was dying.

00:18:15.640 Cause he was up all night.

00:18:16.680 Like he got up every 20 minutes, had to go and was blowing shit out of his ass, like

00:18:20.780 a flare gun.

00:18:21.560 Like literally it was like, like all over the wall.

00:18:24.040 I was like, like watching, I felt so bad for him.

00:18:27.060 He was up all night.

00:18:28.000 I was cleaning shit all night.

00:18:29.540 And then at like the crack of dawn, we went to the specialist and we took him there and

00:18:33.880 they took him back and they were like, Oh, telling us it could be this.

00:18:36.480 It could be this.

00:18:36.920 It could be that.

00:18:37.340 And so what they were telling us was that he could have some sort of stomach cancer and

00:18:40.960 that's why.

00:18:41.560 And then I was like thinking I'm going to have to put him down tonight.

00:18:44.160 He's only a year old.

00:18:45.160 And we were both crying, like me and my boyfriend, very emotional.

00:18:48.420 And they were like, okay, like we're going to take him back really quick.

00:18:51.020 Run some tests.

00:18:51.500 We'll be back.

00:18:52.560 One of the nurse, like the vet techs, she like came in and was like, Oh, I need you to

00:18:57.560 sign this.

00:18:57.960 And I signed it.

00:18:58.440 And she's like, by the way, I'm such a big fan.

00:19:01.380 And then I'm like, thanks.

00:19:04.500 And then she's like, can I take a picture with you?

00:19:07.140 Oh, you're like crying.

00:19:10.420 And she's like, by the way, can I get a photo?

00:19:13.860 I know this might be a little awkward.

00:19:16.040 I don't know when my window is going to close, though.

00:19:18.360 Would you mind if I took a photo?

00:19:20.040 Like, I was like, do you care if I find out if my dog's going to die first and then maybe

00:19:23.580 after?

00:19:25.040 I was going to say, did you know how to say no?

00:19:26.580 Because sometimes it's so awkward.

00:19:28.440 That was one of the first times I said no.

00:19:30.300 Like, I was like, do you mind if I like, wait to see if I'm going to have to die alongside

00:19:36.740 my dog or like, she's like, yeah, I do mind.

00:19:39.480 Yeah.

00:19:39.820 Right now is the time.

00:19:41.520 She's like, why are you being a bitch?

00:19:42.680 No, literally, like, as soon as I was like, do you mind if I like, wait until I find out

00:19:50.140 what's wrong with my dog?

00:19:51.420 She was like, okay.

00:19:53.300 And she just walked away like she's pissed off at me.

00:19:55.120 What?

00:19:55.880 What?

00:19:56.760 Yeah, she was pissed at me.

00:19:58.140 She was fucking mad at me.

00:19:59.160 And I was like, all right.

00:20:01.060 And I live in fear of that because I don't want people to have bad experiences with me.

00:20:04.960 And all it takes is one person, too, to, like, blow up this whole story about how.

00:20:07.940 Yeah, it's like, this is why I'm unfollowing Drew.

00:20:09.920 Yeah.

00:20:10.400 And they make a video about me and everyone's like, I fucking knew it.

00:20:12.580 She's always been bad vibes.

00:20:13.760 Like, this shit just rolls like that.

00:20:15.260 For real.

00:20:16.060 And so I was, I remember posting on Instagram for the first time.

00:20:19.800 I was like, let's talk boundaries, all right?

00:20:21.540 Like, I really need you guys to hear me when I say this.

00:20:23.620 Like, there are certain times and places it'd be great if you could read a room.

00:20:27.280 That would be awesome.

00:20:27.900 Some people can't read a room.

00:20:29.740 They really can't.

00:20:30.600 And I get it to an extent.

00:20:34.220 Yeah.

00:20:34.580 But at the same time, I don't.

00:20:35.700 Because even now, like, y'all know, doing this now, it puts you in rooms with some of the most famous people in the world.

00:20:40.780 And even then, even then, I'm like, I'm not going to ask because that's weird.

00:20:45.100 Like, if you're in a working environment where it's perfectly okay if I ask for a picture.

00:20:49.020 And even then, I'm like, eh, I don't want to bother.

00:20:51.660 That's weird.

00:20:52.340 So I can't imagine doing it when someone's vulnerable.

00:20:54.740 For real.

00:20:55.100 I can't imagine that.

00:20:55.960 I can definitely see.

00:20:58.960 I totally agree with your side.

00:21:02.200 And I think what you did was right.

00:21:05.060 Of course.

00:21:05.360 But I do see her side where she's like, I'm never going to get this opportunity again.

00:21:09.180 I'm a big fan.

00:21:09.920 And that's the tough part, right?

00:21:11.080 I'll just go for it.

00:21:11.960 Yeah.

00:21:13.420 And like, hey, that's fine.

00:21:16.180 But to give you attitude about it, that's the part where I'm like, okay, like, come on.

00:21:22.740 Don't be a dick to me.

00:21:24.200 It's definitely like, read the room.

00:21:25.580 Like, she's used to like, animals dying all the time.

00:21:29.100 That's so true.

00:21:30.640 She's desensitized, right?

00:21:32.380 She's like, what's the big deal?

00:21:34.240 Your dog's dying.

00:21:35.640 So what?

00:21:36.180 So are people.

00:21:36.700 You're going to die.

00:21:37.240 I'm going to die.

00:21:37.860 We're all going to die.

00:21:38.820 Yeah.

00:21:39.180 Bro.

00:21:40.040 You know what's going to live forever?

00:21:41.320 That picture.

00:21:41.900 Yeah.

00:21:42.460 So let's go ahead and take that picture.

00:21:43.800 Yes.

00:21:44.000 Yes.

00:21:45.060 The one immortalized thing we could get right in this moment.

00:21:47.400 Yeah.

00:21:47.820 The worst one I've ever gotten was at the gynecologist.

00:21:50.540 That's the worst one.

00:21:50.980 Stop.

00:21:51.240 No way.

00:21:51.640 No.

00:21:51.860 Not in the moment.

00:21:52.840 Yeah.

00:21:53.160 No, it was after.

00:21:54.140 Okay.

00:21:54.440 After my.

00:21:55.000 That's still just as bad, though.

00:21:56.140 Like the doctor or another patient?

00:21:57.740 It was a nurse.

00:21:58.360 Yeah.

00:21:58.720 So like she was in the room, though, like when it when I was like getting my exam.

00:22:02.520 And then when I left, she was checking me out and like on the form and she was like,

00:22:06.440 ask me all these questions.

00:22:07.240 And I like personal questions, like literally like very vulnerable personal questions like

00:22:12.040 you do with the nurse and the doctor.

00:22:13.700 And then at the very end, she's like, by the way, really big fan.

00:22:17.720 And I was like, well, see, you didn't have to tell me that.

00:22:20.180 I'm glad I'm actually.

00:22:21.580 But she didn't ask for a photo.

00:22:22.680 No.

00:22:23.220 Oh, I think it's because she read my energy.

00:22:25.460 Cause like, why would you tell me that after I told you my home address and my, you saw

00:22:31.100 my private parts, my private parts.

00:22:34.700 I'm like, you were literally in the room when I was getting a pap smear and now you want

00:22:38.100 to be a big fan, by the way.

00:22:39.340 Yeah.

00:22:39.880 I don't.

00:22:40.220 And that's the thing is like, if you do know, you don't have to tell me.

00:22:43.660 Yeah.

00:22:44.260 Unless you're going to ask for a picture, which she didn't even end up asking for.

00:22:46.860 And I think that's why she's probably like, she's chill.

00:22:50.020 She's real cool.

00:22:50.800 She's real cool with it.

00:22:52.260 I don't know.

00:22:52.820 She seemed kind of annoyed.

00:22:53.740 I don't know if, I don't know if I've ever, I'm trying to think of like, I don't know

00:22:59.520 if I've ever been in a situation where like somebody told me they're a fan and it was like

00:23:03.860 weird.

00:23:04.300 Aside from like, I went on a date one time and, and then the person told me mid date that,

00:23:11.880 that they were like a fan and that they had like auditioned.

00:23:16.800 Oh.

00:23:17.920 And I was just like, bro.

00:23:20.160 Again, you didn't have to tell me.

00:23:21.420 Why, why, well, well, well, I mean, I would have preferred they told me before we went

00:23:25.720 on the date and just not gone on the date.

00:23:27.920 Cause that seems like a, a big, like no, no, no.

00:23:31.680 But this is like a really cool meet and greet.

00:23:33.700 Yeah.

00:23:34.140 A really cool meet and greet.

00:23:35.440 Like one-on-one.

00:23:36.880 Yeah.

00:23:38.200 She's like, I did audition and I would like to try again if that's okay with me.

00:23:42.200 Yeah.

00:23:42.400 And she just starts doing a monologue.

00:23:45.900 I do have something prepared.

00:23:47.320 If that's okay with you.

00:23:47.820 She slides you a business card at the end.

00:23:49.820 Yeah.

00:23:50.640 I think it's awkward too when people are like, uh, like a handyman in my house or like working

00:23:55.480 on something.

00:23:55.960 They're like big fan, by the way.

00:23:57.340 So, and they're like, they're in my home just like hanging out with me.

00:24:01.280 Yeah.

00:24:01.820 It's a little bit weird.

00:24:02.620 That's another, yeah.

00:24:03.460 That's another thing I, I fear.

00:24:05.260 I, that happened once with Instacart.

00:24:08.340 Like, um, I always, first of all, fake names on everything.

00:24:12.680 Like I tell them no contact, leave it at the door.

00:24:15.620 Don't wait for me.

00:24:16.500 Literally get off my porch before I open my door.

00:24:18.780 Like I literally write in there, just leave it.

00:24:20.820 Don't ring the doorbell.

00:24:22.060 It's okay.

00:24:22.680 Right.

00:24:22.960 Like, and, uh, we left it, but I remember she was leaving the stuff and I, uh, one of

00:24:28.760 the things needed to be scanned.

00:24:30.780 It's like, you need an ID or whatever, if it's over a certain amount or if it's alcohol

00:24:33.900 or something.

00:24:34.680 So my boyfriend was like, I'll get the door.

00:24:36.440 So he like went and he got it, took all this stuff.

00:24:38.800 She scanned.

00:24:39.540 And then she goes, I think I know your girlfriend.

00:24:42.160 Aren't you guys like really big on tech talk?

00:24:43.600 Oh my God.

00:24:43.880 Does she live here?

00:24:45.360 And then my boyfriend was like, nope.

00:24:47.060 And he just closed the door.

00:24:49.220 Good move.

00:24:49.920 Nope.

00:24:50.180 Never heard of that person in my life.

00:24:52.500 I've got a lot better at setting boundaries, but still every once in a while, some people

00:24:55.580 just catch me so off guard that afterwards I'll be like, why did I say yes to that?

00:24:59.300 I'm a very, I'm a very agreeable person.

00:25:01.900 Yeah.

00:25:02.460 I'll usually, I'll go along with most things.

00:25:05.260 That's his curse.

00:25:06.680 It's a problem.

00:25:07.760 I had a USPS guy a couple of days ago, actually.

00:25:12.660 Literally a couple of days ago.

00:25:13.580 Yeah.

00:25:13.940 Delivering box to me.

00:25:15.480 And he's like, you need a sign for this.

00:25:17.120 Oh, by the way, are you from Smosh?

00:25:18.420 Can I get a picture?

00:25:19.440 And I was like, why did I, I said yes.

00:25:21.240 Sure.

00:25:21.560 Do you want to come into my home?

00:25:24.160 I was like, well, he's in his, he's in his outfit.

00:25:26.380 I hope he can't post this.

00:25:27.960 Yeah.

00:25:28.520 Literally.

00:25:28.840 I think about that a lot too with things like that.

00:25:31.800 Even, and I'm also like, as, as confrontational as I am online, like I'm very bad at that

00:25:37.340 with fans because I don't want them to have a bad experience and I understand.

00:25:41.620 And like, it's hard when you really appreciate everything.

00:25:44.100 Yeah, exactly.

00:25:44.880 So I don't want to be rude or a dick, but like, sometimes I like really do, like, it

00:25:48.720 is so incredibly weird and uncomfortable.

00:25:51.420 Like one time I called my bank and like, I had to ask them to help me with something.

00:25:55.860 And a lady's like, oh yeah.

00:25:57.020 Like, uh, she, she's like, let me ask you security questions.

00:26:00.840 She took all my security questions, my fucking passcode, my address, my phone number, like

00:26:05.040 all that shit, my email, my personal email takes all the information.

00:26:08.120 She goes, okay, great.

00:26:08.900 I'm going to transfer you.

00:26:09.720 By the way, I love your TikToks.

00:26:12.280 You're so funny.

00:26:13.220 And she's like, wow, I'm looking at your account.

00:26:15.220 They're paying you a lot.

00:26:17.700 Damn, you're making that money.

00:26:19.900 She's like, congrats.

00:26:21.460 Have you ever thought about investing in a savings account with us?

00:26:24.940 Like she just leverages it into selling me something.

00:26:27.260 Yeah.

00:26:27.520 Yeah.

00:26:27.720 That part was, that was really terrible too.

00:26:29.680 And I have a very small bank.

00:26:31.140 So it's like, there's only so many people that it could be.

00:26:35.060 And you can't lie on those.

00:26:36.680 Like, I wish I could put a fake name.

00:26:38.640 Right.

00:26:39.660 Yeah.

00:26:40.120 Like on my personal shit.

00:26:41.640 Like my personal documentation.

00:26:43.800 It's a lot harder.

00:26:44.760 Yeah.

00:26:45.560 Unless I'm going to evade the law.

00:26:47.140 But, you know.

00:26:48.160 Change your name.

00:26:49.220 That is true.

00:26:49.860 I could legally change it.

00:26:50.880 But then I have to tell everyone else.

00:26:52.220 Oh.

00:26:52.900 I guess.

00:26:53.360 Oh, I guess I wouldn't, huh?

00:26:54.380 If I was like just making videos.

00:26:55.700 Yeah.

00:26:56.020 I never thought about that.

00:26:57.700 You could just change your name.

00:26:59.440 Like legally.

00:27:00.120 And then not tell anyone you'd change your name.

00:27:01.560 Yeah.

00:27:02.020 Yeah.

00:27:02.220 But then all your documents would be on a different name.

00:27:03.880 Yeah.

00:27:04.320 It's kind of like when like super famous people put fake names when they check into hotels.

00:27:09.260 Yeah.

00:27:09.460 Yeah.

00:27:09.760 How does that work?

00:27:10.720 I don't know.

00:27:11.520 That's why I'm like, how do they get to do that?

00:27:13.280 Because you have to show an ID.

00:27:14.480 I think that all the time.

00:27:15.740 I don't know.

00:27:16.260 Like Harry Styles, if you're interested, please tell me how you do that.

00:27:18.840 That's true.

00:27:19.120 But even the truest fangirls, like they'll find out what that fake name is.

00:27:22.600 Yeah.

00:27:22.900 Like one of my friends who used to like, she used to follow One Direction back in the day.

00:27:27.340 She.

00:27:27.620 Like literally follow.

00:27:28.320 Like literally follow.

00:27:29.360 I'm not even kidding.

00:27:30.260 Like literally.

00:27:30.760 Yeah.

00:27:30.880 She's in prison now.

00:27:32.560 She did write it to me in a letter.

00:27:34.880 Because we're pen pals.

00:27:36.420 But no, she told me that she knows what name he uses.

00:27:39.940 I don't even remember what it is when he goes to hotels.

00:27:42.160 Shouldn't you be switching it up, right?

00:27:43.500 You would think.

00:27:44.160 You would think.

00:27:44.780 But I guess the OGs know it.

00:27:46.380 I'm like.

00:27:46.620 Yeah.

00:27:47.620 Okay.

00:27:48.140 Yeah.

00:27:48.740 They're getting smarter.

00:27:50.200 We have to stay one step ahead.

00:27:51.620 Right.

00:27:53.280 Which is tough.

00:27:54.280 Yeah.

00:27:55.460 I am curious too, when it comes to like the world of content creation, have y'all seen

00:28:00.220 like a major shift now that things like TikTok or like reels or whatever, like short form

00:28:04.520 content, even mine back in like 2015-ish.

00:28:08.040 Yeah, definitely.

00:28:08.540 As it like shifted the medium a lot.

00:28:11.360 I feel like the biggest shift was when people just started making money.

00:28:14.280 Yeah.

00:28:15.180 I can't believe we were around to see like what people were doing when they were just

00:28:17.860 like, I want to make this.

00:28:18.900 And I guess I'm losing money on buying the equipment.

00:28:20.600 But that was a big shift when people started realizing you can get rich off of this.

00:28:25.340 And then just like a completely different mentality of like algorithm hacking and stuff

00:28:29.800 like that.

00:28:30.300 That's true.

00:28:30.480 Yeah.

00:28:30.660 Right.

00:28:31.120 Like baby things like start working their way in.

00:28:33.860 Yeah.

00:28:34.240 Yeah.

00:28:34.720 Yeah.

00:28:35.360 Yeah.

00:28:35.760 I mean, like you definitely like notice it.

00:28:37.680 I think like VidCon is like a great example of like the people you see at VidCon and kind

00:28:43.480 of the shift in like, I feel like there was like one shift where I was like, oh, everyone

00:28:51.300 at VidCon now is like hot where like in the beginning it was like, you know, it's just

00:28:58.800 a bunch of weirdos, you know, like, and, and it's like, oh, like things change.

00:29:04.080 Like it's, this feels like it feels very Hollywood now.

00:29:08.400 Yeah.

00:29:08.800 It's like the worlds are blending together.

00:29:10.920 Yeah.

00:29:11.420 Like at a rapid pace.

00:29:12.820 And then like, and now it's like, it's so, it's, it's so, uh, there's a lot of people

00:29:20.720 that are just very business focused.

00:29:22.780 So like a lot of people like, well, like just come up to us, not even say like, like, oh,

00:29:30.220 Hey, like, you know, uh, um, love your content or whatever.

00:29:33.740 Those would be like, Hey, so I have those be like, Hey, I'm blah, blah.

00:29:37.940 I have 10 million subscribers on Tik TOK.

00:29:39.740 Yeah.

00:29:39.840 Check out my, this video has 20 million views on Tik TOK.

00:29:43.120 I'm like, okay.

00:29:45.340 Congratulations.

00:29:47.160 And it's like collab.

00:29:49.020 Like what do you do?

00:29:50.000 And then you find out what they do and you're like, I'm good.

00:29:52.880 You're all, I can't really collab with that.

00:29:54.720 Yeah.

00:29:55.600 Wish you the best.

00:29:56.660 You know, what's so funny.

00:29:57.280 The only time that's ever happened to me and the most it's ever happened to me is at

00:30:00.740 VidCon.

00:30:01.440 Yeah.

00:30:01.720 Like that.

00:30:02.320 That's the only, I've been to VidCon twice.

00:30:04.560 Yeah.

00:30:04.700 Twice.

00:30:05.260 And, uh, like, that's the only time that's ever happened to me.

00:30:08.400 Yeah.

00:30:08.660 Cause I think, I think it's like, I, I, I get it.

00:30:11.220 Cause it's like, people don't, a lot of these people don't get an opportunity to like network

00:30:16.140 with other creators.

00:30:17.340 Yeah.

00:30:17.480 Well, especially ones like y'all, like you guys have been in the industry forever and

00:30:20.720 like, you guys are so well established and have created businesses out of content creation.

00:30:25.140 So like, I get what you mean.

00:30:26.580 Like I see it kind of what they're going for.

00:30:29.960 Right.

00:30:30.320 But I'd, I'd like rather people like meet me and get to know you at like a, I like a place

00:30:35.140 of like, what, like, let's talk about content and not, and not about like numbers because

00:30:42.480 that doesn't matter because then when they start to explain their content, I'm like,

00:30:46.500 like, do you like doing that?

00:30:48.540 Yeah.

00:30:49.080 Oh yeah.

00:30:50.140 He's like, I actually hate it, but it does really well.

00:30:52.800 Yeah.

00:30:53.100 Yeah.

00:30:53.300 Yeah.

00:30:53.860 Totally.

00:30:54.280 So it's just like, I don't know.

00:30:56.140 Like I, I, I don't, I don't enjoy those.

00:30:58.380 I don't enjoy those interactions.

00:30:59.620 There are definitely creators that will come up and like talk, just be so excited and passionate

00:31:03.600 about what they're making and they want to share that.

00:31:05.560 And I love that.

00:31:06.980 Yeah.

00:31:07.200 That's cool.

00:31:07.700 You know, that's, that's kind of what VidCon used to be in the earliest days.

00:31:12.220 And it used to be so collab focused.

00:31:14.500 I feel like back in the day when I used to watch, I used to watch vlogs of people at VidCon

00:31:18.880 all the time.

00:31:19.300 Like they're all like making videos together.

00:31:21.080 And like, I get what you mean.

00:31:22.860 Yeah.

00:31:23.200 Cause I'm 28 going to be 29 this year.

00:31:25.080 So like I was around when y'all were like huge on YouTube, um, like first, you know what

00:31:29.600 I mean?

00:31:29.800 And then like the Jackie Inas, the Zoellas, the like Casper Lees, like all of them, all, everyone

00:31:35.320 at the same time, like I grew up in that era.

00:31:38.420 So I know what that looks like.

00:31:40.240 And then when I went, it's very different.

00:31:42.360 It's very, it's very different.

00:31:44.680 Yeah.

00:31:45.720 Yeah.

00:31:45.960 Everybody's like, everybody, everybody's a business person now.

00:31:50.540 It's like business first.

00:31:52.160 And I, and I get it.

00:31:53.600 Like, yeah, everyone understands the analytics and, you know, the best practices and the algorithm.

00:31:59.620 Yeah.

00:31:59.880 But I will say I really, I do really appreciate how TikTok has, you know, Instagram

00:32:05.080 reels and all that has allowed anyone to make their own shorter form content that doesn't,

00:32:11.420 that that's a lot more, that's a lot, it's low lift, you know, compared accessible than

00:32:15.300 what YouTube required.

00:32:16.400 Cause YouTube was kind of that in the beginning, but YouTube has evolved to kind of reward longer

00:32:22.420 content, a little bit more production, a lot, you know, a lot of that.

00:32:26.120 So then it feels like TikTok and reels have kind of fell into that place, uh, to be accessible

00:32:32.400 in the way that YouTube used to be about.

00:32:34.900 Yeah, totally.

00:32:35.880 And I feel like even like when I've had interactions like that, it is very numbers focused.

00:32:41.940 Like they're all like, Oh, I have this many followers and I get this many views.

00:32:45.460 And I'm like, okay.

00:32:46.700 What they're basically saying, like, so here's my word.

00:32:48.560 Yeah.

00:32:48.880 So they're like, so you should make a video with me.

00:32:51.140 Yeah.

00:32:51.740 I just met you.

00:32:52.660 Like that's weird.

00:32:54.260 It's so dangerous on the other end too, just like to, to see your own personal value as

00:32:58.800 your number.

00:32:59.500 Yeah.

00:32:59.860 That's scary because then if that number, when that number eventually goes down, you know,

00:33:04.480 you're not going to know how to come back up from it.

00:33:06.080 Yeah, absolutely.

00:33:07.000 I, I feel like too, and I've got, I got this question the most at Big Con too, which was

00:33:10.740 like, how do I like grow a platform?

00:33:13.260 Like, how do I go viral?

00:33:14.920 Yeah.

00:33:15.200 I want to go viral.

00:33:16.160 Right.

00:33:16.360 And I was like, well, okay, first of all, I can't tell you how to do that.

00:33:18.940 Cause I don't even know how I did it.

00:33:20.360 Yeah.

00:33:20.820 And I was like, but also too, like, I think you should just make content that you enjoy

00:33:24.300 and that brings you joy.

00:33:25.620 Even if you went viral, are you going to want to keep making it?

00:33:27.780 Exactly.

00:33:28.280 Well, I'm like, virality is so not like, there's no longevity in it.

00:33:33.300 Like you cannot say I'm going to be viral forever.

00:33:36.220 It's not like you get viral once and then you're set.

00:33:38.360 Exactly.

00:33:40.300 I've even told people like one time someone asked me like, um, what's the best piece of

00:33:44.800 advice you'd give me if I want to like, you know, take time off from work and like

00:33:48.080 really try to focus on content creation.

00:33:49.840 Right.

00:33:49.940 And I was like, um, have a lot of money saved because you're not going to make a

00:33:53.900 fucking dime for a long time.

00:33:56.400 Yeah.

00:33:56.640 So just keep that.

00:33:58.260 Like you really got to love what you do because you aren't going to make a cent for a while.

00:34:02.320 And even if you do accidentally somehow stumble into a space where you do make money, you

00:34:06.280 have to be prepared not to make money.

00:34:08.320 I think almost like in order to make the content that is worthy of making the money.

00:34:12.720 Exactly.

00:34:12.960 And that's why like the truest advice is the most boring and overdone advice.

00:34:16.640 Yeah.

00:34:16.880 People are like, that's not what I want to hear.

00:34:18.440 Where it's like, enjoy, enjoy what you're making.

00:34:21.240 And it's like, you know, they're like, I've heard that before.

00:34:23.580 We all hate repeating that, but it's true because like, if you're not going to make any

00:34:27.640 money from it ever potentially, or not going to make any money from format for like three

00:34:34.440 or five years, are you really going to make content that you hate for five years straight?

00:34:39.540 Because how are you going to feel about that?

00:34:41.200 Yeah.

00:34:41.380 In the hopes that you make money.

00:34:43.000 You have to be in the mindset that you could keep doing it for a long time.

00:34:45.520 You could keep refining and refining and refining.

00:34:47.640 Yeah.

00:34:47.660 And evolving.

00:34:48.400 Exactly.

00:34:48.800 And if it's something that you like, you're going to be excited about that next step and

00:34:52.380 evolving with it.

00:34:53.620 But if you hate it, you're going to constantly be like, well, what about this?

00:34:56.400 That didn't work.

00:34:56.860 What about this?

00:34:57.340 That didn't work.

00:34:58.120 Yeah.

00:34:58.820 Totally.

00:34:59.460 And I feel like too, virality has really warped people's idea of like, oh, I need to do it.

00:35:04.440 Just like that person in order for it to do well.

00:35:06.920 Yeah.

00:35:07.280 And it's almost like that person did it.

00:35:09.040 So that's not going to work.

00:35:10.480 Yes.

00:35:10.800 It's like, well, that's been done.

00:35:11.920 Yeah.

00:35:12.620 Don't worry about that.

00:35:14.260 And I've said, I've made that joke before.

00:35:16.320 I'm like, there's only one Emma Chamberlain.

00:35:17.840 Like there's only one of her.

00:35:18.800 So she did it.

00:35:19.740 Right.

00:35:20.040 We don't need to all be her in order for it.

00:35:21.860 If there was a recipe that she followed and everyone could do it.

00:35:24.880 Yeah.

00:35:25.200 They would.

00:35:26.020 And that's why I was like, when people are like, oh, just post like 15 videos a day.

00:35:30.180 I can't be doing that shit.

00:35:31.740 I don't have time for that.

00:35:33.200 Like, I was like, I'm tired.

00:35:35.300 Do you have a theory for how you went viral?

00:35:37.160 Like, do you like.

00:35:38.680 Absolutely.

00:35:39.280 It's like, I kicked the shit out of men and people thought it was funny.

00:35:42.240 Like, that's literally it.

00:35:43.900 Like, that's what.

00:35:45.020 There you go.

00:35:45.320 That's how you do it.

00:35:46.320 It's a winning formula.

00:35:47.380 Yeah.

00:35:47.940 It works every time.

00:35:48.840 Every time.

00:35:49.920 That's what I was like.

00:35:50.680 It's literally, I like beat the shit out of men that were awful.

00:35:53.860 And then people found joy in that.

00:35:55.740 Like, that's literally what it was.

00:35:57.620 It's cathartic.

00:35:58.260 Yeah.

00:35:58.660 For them.

00:35:59.100 It was something that they hadn't like experienced before in their own life.

00:36:03.300 And so that's why they liked me.

00:36:04.780 Yeah.

00:36:05.080 And so.

00:36:05.620 I tried the opposite.

00:36:06.840 It just didn't.

00:36:07.720 It didn't take.

00:36:08.140 It just wasn't a vibe.

00:36:09.000 People beating your ass?

00:36:09.920 No.

00:36:10.400 I tried kicking the shit out of women.

00:36:13.200 And people were like.

00:36:14.260 Had the opposite effect.

00:36:15.280 Just not really a vibe.

00:36:16.040 That's how you and I met.

00:36:17.060 Yeah.

00:36:17.400 Exactly.

00:36:17.760 It was.

00:36:20.340 Yeah.

00:36:20.760 That was my.

00:36:21.500 That's my recipe.

00:36:22.840 It was literally just that.

00:36:24.080 Like, it was like.

00:36:24.980 And I told people.

00:36:25.820 I've told people before.

00:36:26.920 I can't tell you how to do that.

00:36:28.400 Algorithms are unpredictable.

00:36:29.520 I can't tell you how they work.

00:36:30.740 And literally what made you viral today will not necessarily make you viral.

00:36:33.400 Exactly.

00:36:34.020 That's why I was like.

00:36:34.660 I've evolved my content.

00:36:36.240 As soon as I got the platform.

00:36:38.080 I started rolling balls in other directions.

00:36:39.620 I was like.

00:36:39.840 I got to start diversifying.

00:36:41.660 I got to start doing other things.

00:36:42.700 Right.

00:36:43.320 Because TikTok and social media as a whole.

00:36:45.100 It's just.

00:36:45.420 It's not going to be forever.

00:36:46.760 So.

00:36:46.780 If you keep doing the same type of content.

00:36:48.400 Yeah.

00:36:48.820 People slowly lose interest.

00:36:50.640 Because that'll maybe have already found its core audience.

00:36:53.780 Yeah.

00:36:53.900 And you'll just slowly.

00:36:54.840 They'll just dwindle away.

00:36:55.760 Yeah.

00:36:56.160 You have to always be finding new audience.

00:36:57.700 And like the Emma Chamberlain example is great.

00:36:59.940 Yeah.

00:37:00.160 Because she's evolved.

00:37:00.980 Exactly.

00:37:01.380 Like.

00:37:01.780 Yeah.

00:37:01.920 She's not still a VSCO girl.

00:37:03.660 Yeah.

00:37:04.060 Exactly.

00:37:04.900 She has graduated.

00:37:06.180 Yeah.

00:37:06.480 To a Met Gal girl.

00:37:07.600 Yeah.

00:37:07.880 Exactly.

00:37:08.320 She's a fashion girl now.

00:37:09.940 She is evolved as well.

00:37:11.260 Yeah.

00:37:11.440 So if she continued doing VSCO girl.

00:37:13.720 We would not be talking about Emma Chamberlain.

00:37:15.180 Exactly.

00:37:15.660 She wouldn't be at the level she's at now.

00:37:18.180 And I feel like.

00:37:19.820 I'm curious your guys' thoughts on like.

00:37:22.820 The virality aspect.

00:37:24.100 Because I know like.

00:37:25.180 Especially with things like TikTok.

00:37:26.320 Because it's like.

00:37:27.140 I feel like TikTok.

00:37:27.800 It's so easy to go viral.

00:37:29.400 It's not easy to sustain.

00:37:30.640 Like a platform or build.

00:37:32.840 As it is on other platforms.

00:37:34.320 I'm sure.

00:37:34.800 But like.

00:37:35.400 I'm curious if y'all have seen a shift in that kind of like.

00:37:38.260 Hyper fixation on like.

00:37:39.700 I need to go viral.

00:37:40.760 I need to.

00:37:41.600 You know what I mean?

00:37:41.980 Because even like hearing people say like.

00:37:44.300 I want to be an influencer.

00:37:45.600 Like that's weird.

00:37:46.820 Yeah.

00:37:46.940 For me to hear like.

00:37:47.640 They're like.

00:37:47.860 I'm aspiring to that.

00:37:49.180 Like I'm like.

00:37:49.580 Yeah.

00:37:50.000 Because that was like not even.

00:37:51.260 Remotely an option back in the day.

00:37:53.120 Right.

00:37:53.560 It wasn't even a thing when y'all.

00:37:55.000 Like you said you're old.

00:37:55.680 That wasn't even a thing.

00:37:56.760 Yeah.

00:37:57.020 I mean I think.

00:37:59.000 I think we're very fortunate to have built our audience on YouTube.

00:38:02.960 Yeah.

00:38:03.840 Where you do build an audience.

00:38:06.260 And like a community of people that will.

00:38:08.800 That will consistently come back and watch your content.

00:38:11.900 Yeah.

00:38:12.120 Where it feels like TikTok.

00:38:13.960 It's very easy to get views.

00:38:16.140 Yeah.

00:38:16.620 But it's very hard to build an audience.

00:38:18.500 Yeah.

00:38:18.860 To build community.

00:38:19.800 Yeah.

00:38:20.480 Unless.

00:38:21.100 Unless you like really nail.

00:38:23.140 Like this one thing.

00:38:24.900 And then continue to do that thing.

00:38:27.020 But then also evolve away from it.

00:38:29.040 So it's.

00:38:30.280 I mean.

00:38:32.300 Yeah.

00:38:32.960 I think.

00:38:33.580 I think.

00:38:34.620 Fortunately we built our audience on YouTube.

00:38:37.220 Yeah.

00:38:38.000 And with TikTok.

00:38:39.240 It's like.

00:38:39.920 We're.

00:38:40.460 You know.

00:38:41.120 We're not.

00:38:41.760 We're not doing like crazy numbers on TikTok.

00:38:44.780 Like you.

00:38:45.580 But we're just kind of like.

00:38:47.740 Fucking around on it.

00:38:49.340 Because like.

00:38:50.080 We can't.

00:38:50.400 We can't commit.

00:38:51.480 We can't commit.

00:38:52.740 I told you another thing.

00:38:54.320 Another thing I got to do.

00:38:55.980 Like when people bring new apps.

00:38:57.140 They're like.

00:38:57.420 Oh.

00:38:57.720 Like be real.

00:38:58.420 When that became a thing.

00:38:59.280 I was like.

00:38:59.580 I don't have.

00:39:00.460 I don't have it in me.

00:39:01.620 No.

00:39:01.960 I don't add another one to my plate.

00:39:03.260 I can't do it.

00:39:03.660 I don't want it.

00:39:04.480 Stop making new platforms.

00:39:05.900 I can't do it.

00:39:06.560 Stop it.

00:39:07.100 Please stop adding them to my plate.

00:39:08.360 I can't take them anymore.

00:39:09.620 I'm over it.

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00:40:09.980 Okay, we're going to go into the topic.

00:40:12.880 Because I've been talking y'all's ear.

00:40:14.240 I've been asking y'all lots of questions.

00:40:15.560 Oh, let's go.

00:40:16.260 But obviously y'all are not like the godfathers of sketch comedy.

00:40:19.700 On the internet.

00:40:21.300 And so I would like to run a couple sketch comedy sketches.

00:40:26.280 Okay, you got some premises?

00:40:27.680 Comedy loosely.

00:40:29.080 Okay.

00:40:29.500 These are TikToks.

00:40:30.260 Like these are men who like do sketch comedy on TikTok.

00:40:32.660 Okay.

00:40:33.080 But they're just only awful about women.

00:40:36.340 Oh.

00:40:36.660 Just want to get your thoughts.

00:40:37.340 Oh, interesting.

00:40:38.560 Great.

00:40:38.760 It's a very specific niche.

00:40:40.840 Of sketch comedy.

00:40:41.820 These are real premises?

00:40:43.740 Yeah.

00:40:44.060 Like these are real sketches that exist currently on the platform.

00:40:47.300 Oh, I can't wait.

00:40:48.080 But for copyright reasons, I can't show them to you.

00:40:50.360 But I will describe them.

00:40:51.300 Okay.

00:40:51.880 So we'll go on an imagination journey together.

00:40:53.840 Oh, God.

00:40:54.140 I can't wait to imagine this.

00:40:56.680 This one is.

00:40:57.320 Okay.

00:40:57.580 So this guy, he posts a lot of sketch videos where he makes fun and over-sexualizes his girlfriend and women in general.

00:41:05.100 Hilarious.

00:41:05.940 Classic.

00:41:06.220 It's already hilarious.

00:41:07.200 Classic.

00:41:07.560 In this sketch, in this particular sketch, he's walking out of a building with his girlfriend, holds the door open for her.

00:41:13.820 Another girl walks by.

00:41:15.080 He keeps holding the door open for the second woman.

00:41:17.800 The second woman says thank you.

00:41:20.040 And his girlfriend is mad at him for the rest of the day.

00:41:22.620 Essentially, the joke is that his girl gets jealous over any small thing.

00:41:26.860 Any sort of female attention.

00:41:29.220 Wow.

00:41:29.560 First off, hilarious.

00:41:31.220 Pretty evolved.

00:41:32.540 It's very vine-coded.

00:41:34.640 Yeah.

00:41:35.040 That's true.

00:41:35.520 This is what, like, all those, like, vine guys did back in the day.

00:41:38.560 Yeah, real king-batch type humor.

00:41:39.980 Yeah, where she's like, oh, women are jealous.

00:41:43.880 Well, that's the joke.

00:41:46.040 Do you think that they're, like, rage-baiting?

00:41:47.780 Like, they're hoping that they get more interactions because it'll piss some people off?

00:41:51.080 I'm sure that's the case for some of them.

00:41:52.860 But this is supposed to be a sketch.

00:41:53.740 Yeah, so I think it's, honestly, sometimes I think it's half and half.

00:41:57.440 Like, I think it's, I think this is funny, and I also think people who don't find it funny

00:42:01.720 are going to be so mad they're going to give me an engagement.

00:42:03.760 Like, they get a high off of being polarizing.

00:42:05.040 Yeah, it's like a win-win for them.

00:42:06.900 Yeah.

00:42:07.660 And so the comments on this one, like, this one says,

00:42:10.580 Dumper, the door girl is much hotter.

00:42:13.940 These are real comments, too, from real people.

00:42:15.760 I wish I could tell their usernames.

00:42:16.640 So some of these people must assume this is real.

00:42:19.580 Yeah.

00:42:20.220 Is it like, oh, yeah, like, not a skit?

00:42:21.940 Even though this is, like, oops, there was a camera filming us.

00:42:24.640 This is why, like, 12-year-olds should not be allowed to be on the internet.

00:42:29.240 Because, like, because they don't have, like, any concept of, like, what reality is.

00:42:32.760 Maybe not a 12-year-old, but a 9-year-old.

00:42:34.420 Yeah.

00:42:34.860 Like, you know.

00:42:36.020 Even a 12-year-old.

00:42:36.760 Like, shit.

00:42:37.260 Like, they think Thomas the Tank Engine is a real, is a real living, breathing train.

00:42:41.640 Or is it a guy with, like, a NASCAR shirt on and glasses?

00:42:44.320 Do you know?

00:42:45.080 I have no clue, honestly.

00:42:46.300 I wish I did now.

00:42:47.120 Oh, it's the sunglasses in the pickup truck.

00:42:48.120 The sunglasses in the truck, yeah.

00:42:49.680 So, this next one says, this is all the evidence you need to find another woman.

00:42:53.960 That one's broken.

00:42:55.940 Okay.

00:42:56.840 Cool.

00:42:57.400 Well.

00:42:57.740 Cool.

00:42:58.680 Again, it's like, I don't understand, like, like you said, like, there's just secret hidden

00:43:02.620 cameras everywhere.

00:43:03.760 Yeah.

00:43:04.060 It's all cut together perfectly.

00:43:05.500 I got to upload it.

00:43:06.580 Yeah.

00:43:06.860 Like, the security guy was like, you should, like, put this on TikTok.

00:43:09.860 Yeah.

00:43:10.380 Maybe the acting was really good.

00:43:12.420 Oh, I bet.

00:43:12.760 Maybe it was really, really good acting.

00:43:14.560 Like, Darman?

00:43:15.460 Yeah.

00:43:15.860 Yeah.

00:43:16.020 Just, like, Oscar-level Darman type.

00:43:19.000 Yeah, Darman.

00:43:19.660 Darman type video.

00:43:22.140 Yeah.

00:43:22.640 Yeah.

00:43:23.020 He casts all the best actors.

00:43:24.600 Yes.

00:43:24.900 This last one says, meanwhile, she can post herself half naked on social media, and it

00:43:30.040 would be no biggie, right?

00:43:31.820 Oh.

00:43:32.280 I love when people make up a scenario.

00:43:33.620 Is that an assumption?

00:43:34.820 Or did they stalk that person's profile?

00:43:36.980 No, he's just making up a scenario in his head.

00:43:40.420 Like, meanwhile, she could start an OnlyFans and make $500,000 a month.

00:43:45.480 Like, it's not fair.

00:43:47.380 He's like, also, she stole money from me.

00:43:49.400 Yeah.

00:43:49.940 Where'd you get that from?

00:43:52.040 That's so...

00:43:52.900 I'm curious to, like, to know your thoughts on, like, how sketch comedy has changed on

00:43:57.440 the internet.

00:43:57.920 Like, you know how some...

00:43:58.480 Yeah.

00:43:59.020 Sketch comedy in its purest form is silly and fun and entertaining.

00:44:02.340 Yeah.

00:44:02.660 And then I feel like, again, the virality part of the internet has warped it to be like,

00:44:07.660 I'm going to make something that pisses people off so severely that I'm going to go viral

00:44:12.200 no matter what.

00:44:13.020 Yeah.

00:44:13.220 I think that's really what it's about now is, like, making the thing that you know will

00:44:16.860 go viral.

00:44:18.240 And usually that's because it's going to piss off a lot of people.

00:44:21.060 Yeah.

00:44:21.260 And unfortunately, that's what, you know, these platforms promote because they want engagement.

00:44:29.000 They want longer...

00:44:30.660 Because they win no matter what.

00:44:31.480 Yeah, they want longer audience retention.

00:44:33.380 And if it's in that case, it's fine, you know, for a lot of these platforms.

00:44:37.660 Yeah.

00:44:38.100 That's so...

00:44:38.900 I find that so upsetting.

00:44:40.600 And I feel like, too, it's really ruined the purity of, like, the silliness of early

00:44:45.640 YouTube days.

00:44:46.500 Yeah.

00:44:46.720 Because, like, even, like, back in the day, I would watch sketch comedy on YouTube.

00:44:50.520 Like, even Wong Fu, like...

00:44:52.120 Yeah.

00:44:52.500 You know, they're, like, OGs, too.

00:44:53.800 And, like, they used to make silly things or serious things.

00:44:56.240 And they were always so fun and lighthearted.

00:44:58.120 I feel like this kind of...

00:44:59.480 And they were always sketches.

00:45:00.320 Like, they're always made-up scenarios.

00:45:01.760 They're written, whatever.

00:45:02.900 So, like, this kind of shit, I feel like, has really poisoned the water when it comes

00:45:07.560 to that kind of stuff.

00:45:08.600 Well...

00:45:08.920 Do you all feel that way?

00:45:09.960 I think...

00:45:10.600 Well, I mean, if you look at, like, Wong Fu, like, all those guys were, like, film

00:45:15.200 grads.

00:45:16.120 Yeah.

00:45:16.400 Totally.

00:45:16.800 And so, like, they actually...

00:45:18.560 They have, like, experience and stuff.

00:45:21.220 Yeah.

00:45:21.320 And then when you have something like TikTok that lowers the barrier for entry, that's

00:45:25.820 great.

00:45:26.540 Yeah.

00:45:26.960 But, like, when you lower the barrier for entry, you also bring in people that have, like,

00:45:31.640 no idea, like, how to create a sketch.

00:45:35.260 Yeah.

00:45:35.420 Or they just don't have any, like, sensibility for, like, what is, like, not sexist.

00:45:41.240 Yeah.

00:45:41.720 Or they don't care.

00:45:44.120 Yeah.

00:45:44.360 Or they just don't care.

00:45:45.100 They don't care.

00:45:45.680 They're, like...

00:45:45.920 Yeah.

00:45:46.220 They might even know that it's, like, sexist, but to them, it's, like...

00:45:50.120 I mean, that's, like, dad humor.

00:45:52.180 Where they're, like, oh, the wife is jealous of me again because I open her later.

00:45:56.860 You know, it's just, like...

00:45:57.640 It's just...

00:45:59.040 I don't know.

00:45:59.420 It's like, ugh, hate my wife.

00:46:00.500 Fucking hate her.

00:46:01.500 Yeah.

00:46:01.840 So, it's, like, it lowers the barrier for entry, which is great for comedy and also bad for

00:46:06.560 comedy.

00:46:07.220 Yeah.

00:46:07.680 Yeah.

00:46:08.060 I feel like that person might have even seen that as a success, you know, depending on how much

00:46:11.700 how many views it got.

00:46:12.720 Yeah.

00:46:13.160 Success.

00:46:13.380 They're like, a win is a win.

00:46:14.300 I'll take it.

00:46:14.800 Yeah.

00:46:15.060 I'm sure he probably made, like, five other videos that are the exact same thing.

00:46:18.340 Yep.

00:46:19.200 Yep.

00:46:20.220 Well, I'm curious.

00:46:21.060 Just to wrap things up, I'm so...

00:46:23.560 I would love to know what y'all's best piece of advice would be for people who are...

00:46:28.440 want to get into...

00:46:29.240 whether it's, like, sketch comedy writing or it's creating long-form content at all or

00:46:33.680 even, like, building a business for creators, because I know a lot of your guys' ability

00:46:39.020 to, like, create a production which can help amplify other creators or writers or comics

00:46:44.420 or whatever.

00:46:45.920 What's your guys' best piece of advice for people who either want to venture into this

00:46:49.940 kind of content or maybe want to build something to help other creators?

00:46:53.220 Like, what's your guys' best piece of advice?

00:46:55.040 Yeah.

00:46:55.420 I think, you know, just...

00:46:57.340 you have to enjoy what you do.

00:47:00.840 I hate it, but it's real.

00:47:03.140 I know.

00:47:03.820 It sucks that it's so true.

00:47:06.260 Gosh.

00:47:06.860 I mean, like...

00:47:07.860 Yeah.

00:47:08.680 I think a big part of it is, oddly enough, like, finding what your, like, mission statement

00:47:14.020 or goal is for what you're making.

00:47:15.820 Because if you're just kind of loosely with no direction just making stuff, you can't really

00:47:20.100 find your own niche.

00:47:20.880 But if you're, like...

00:47:21.880 Yeah.

00:47:22.260 Like, for Smosh, we kind of, like, huddle together and we're, like, what is our main

00:47:28.220 goal for Smosh in general?

00:47:30.240 And it's comedy rooted in friendship.

00:47:32.480 You know?

00:47:33.000 So, like, that has really helped us kind of set our sights on what is our purpose.

00:47:37.500 Yeah, totally.

00:47:38.020 So, aside from just loving what you do, I think having a purpose for, like, why am I

00:47:42.340 making this?

00:47:43.200 What do I want out of it?

00:47:44.340 Yeah.

00:47:44.680 And can I sit with it through the long haul of all the tough times that I'm going to have,

00:47:49.180 like, getting to the place that I want to get to?

00:47:51.300 Because there will be tough times.

00:47:52.420 Yeah, totally.

00:47:53.400 That's true.

00:47:54.020 I mean, like, yeah.

00:47:55.280 Because you're going to go through ups and downs and it's very easy to just, like, want

00:48:00.460 to follow whatever you think is going to be successful.

00:48:03.000 But as long as you have that sort of, like, North Star of, like, okay, like, this is being

00:48:07.760 successful, but how can I filter that through my sort of, like, mission?

00:48:13.080 Totally.

00:48:13.680 And I think to just have a strong point of view, like, work on yourself, work on maintaining,

00:48:18.900 like, a strong point of view, have specific values that you can filter your content through.

00:48:25.800 And then I think that that'll help you have a more distinct viewpoint and point of view,

00:48:32.640 like, point of view.

00:48:33.460 Yeah.

00:48:33.860 So that you, it just doesn't become, like, vanilla.

00:48:38.620 Yeah.

00:48:39.040 I also think a lot of people, you know, like, of course, taking risks is a good thing and

00:48:43.120 taking risks is scary.

00:48:44.040 People know that.

00:48:44.740 But they get this idea that, like, the image they have for the perfect way it's going to

00:48:49.660 unfold is the only way that it has to unfold.

00:48:53.140 Yeah.

00:48:53.440 When in reality, you're not going to know how it's going to get to that point and you have

00:48:57.880 to have the patience and, like, discipline to keep it up throughout that entire process.

00:49:02.640 Yeah, totally.

00:49:03.900 And, I mean, obviously, way easier said than done.

00:49:05.880 That is hard.

00:49:07.140 Well, y'all have done it.

00:49:08.180 Y'all have done it and proved it.

00:49:09.740 So your longevity speaks for itself.

00:49:12.540 Yeah.

00:49:13.700 Hey, I mean, he quit Smosh.

00:49:15.360 Yeah.

00:49:15.740 Yeah.

00:49:16.060 True.

00:49:16.960 Ian fought through that shit.

00:49:18.680 Those tough times.

00:49:19.500 So, you know, we haven't always been on it.

00:49:23.280 Yeah.

00:49:23.680 But you're back and better than ever.

00:49:25.380 Yeah.

00:49:25.920 Band's getting back together.

00:49:26.980 We sold our company for a million, for a zero million dollars.

00:49:29.920 Zero million?

00:49:30.860 And then, I don't know why I said a million, because we sold our company for zero dollars

00:49:35.560 and then had to buy it back for not zero dollars.

00:49:38.240 Yeah.

00:49:39.020 We're not exactly business geniuses over here.

00:49:42.040 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:42.660 But you're still here.

00:49:44.120 Well, thank y'all so much for coming on the show.

00:49:45.980 Yeah, thank you.

00:49:46.500 It's an honor to have two legends, two giants in the biz.

00:49:50.620 Stop, stop.

00:49:52.220 Thank you so much to all of you for watching.

00:49:54.500 Thank you to my amazing guests.

00:49:55.720 Where can everybody find you?

00:49:58.000 Lots of things, but you can just search Smosh and you can find us there.

00:50:01.820 That's our main channel.

00:50:02.680 We do sketches, that kind of stuff.

00:50:04.120 Smosh Pit is our improv comedy, unscripted comedy type stuff.

00:50:09.120 We read Reddit stories.

00:50:10.880 It's a fun time.

00:50:12.520 We got Smosh Games.

00:50:13.380 We got Smosh Cast.

00:50:14.400 We got the Anthony Padilla channel.

00:50:15.820 So just sort of Smosh anywhere and find something.

00:50:19.040 A lot of funny people.

00:50:19.740 People that are funnier than us are on our channels as well.

00:50:22.360 I'm like, that's also true because I'm on there.

00:50:24.420 It's true.

00:50:25.680 Check out our roast of Drew.

00:50:28.120 Yeah, the funeral roast with me.

00:50:29.800 Me.

00:50:30.200 I also really quick want to say one of the people there said a joke that was so funny.

00:50:36.620 I still think about it to this day, but they were making fun of Spensois.

00:50:40.480 And they said that he is homophobia externalized.

00:50:44.860 Oh, yeah.

00:50:45.560 That was so good.

00:50:46.500 That's to this day one of the funniest roasts I've ever heard.

00:50:48.340 And it wasn't even about me.

00:50:49.480 Yeah.

00:50:49.780 And it was at my roast.

00:50:51.840 But thank you all so much for coming on the show.

00:50:53.620 Thank you.

00:50:54.100 All you guys are amazing.

00:50:55.540 Thank you all so much for joining us on this episode of the comment section.

00:50:58.900 Thank you so much to Ian and Anthony, the creators of Smosh, the legendary Smosh.

00:51:03.320 And make sure you all go check them out on everything.

00:51:05.000 Anyways, thank you so much.

00:51:06.280 I love you all.

00:51:07.180 Thank you so much to Ian and Anthony.

00:51:08.620 Make sure you all follow them on everything.

00:51:09.900 And don't forget, new episodes of the comment section come out every Wednesday.

00:51:13.680 You can stream the audio on all streaming channels or you can watch the video for free.

00:51:17.120 But it lives exclusively on Spotify.

00:51:19.080 Please stop fucking asking me where the video is.

00:51:21.880 It's not on YouTube.

00:51:22.640 It's on Spotify.

00:51:23.620 Thank you so much.

00:51:24.560 And I'll see you next week.

00:51:25.540 Bye.

00:51:25.800 Bye.

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