TASTEFUL AMOUNT OF CRINGE Ft. Brooke Averick
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Summary
In this episode of the comment section, I chat with published author Brooke Ackerman about her new book, Phoebe Verman's Gonna Lose It, a rom-com about a hopeless romantic, 29-year-old woman who becomes obsessed with losing her virginity in the 30 days before her 30th birthday.
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so much of romance can be cringe and i found that too like reading things out loud is really helpful
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and like some of it some cringe is okay yes of course but sometimes a tasteful amount of
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cringe is always okay but when it makes you go like and takes you out yeah it's really hard
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it's there's such a delicate balance yeah i agree
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hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me your fave
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everybody knows me who cares about me on to the guest today we have the iconic the hilarious
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the published author herself brooke abrick thank you so much for having me drew oh my god thank
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you so much for coming i feel like it's been a long time it has it's been a long time coming
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you and i to be here yeah and you know what no better time no better time like the present
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phoebe verman's gonna lose it yeah you guys can see in the wide i don't when does this come out
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is she out yet or she she's about to be out oh she she popped yesterday okay yeah okay so that's
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incredible yeah so yes i'm officially a published author oh my gosh yesterday how exciting yeah
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verman's gonna lose it i really want to talk all things to published author um yeah so phoebe is
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a rom-com yeah she is basically it's about a hopeless romantic phoebe she's 29 years old
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and even though she's a hopeless romantic she has this very crippling intimacy anxiety
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that she's had since she was a teenager and so she has not lost her virginity yet and she becomes
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super obsessed with losing it in the 30 days before her 30th birthday which is when this book
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takes place she makes a list and that is her goal is to lose it and she goes from kind of a
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non-existent love life to having three prospects so it's kind of like is she gonna lose it if she
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loses it who she's who is she gonna lose it to so kind of like mystery thriller element there as
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well murder mystery mystery too um no but it's just like I tried to really channel those like
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early 2000s rom-coms and this one is like Bridget Jones kind of like Bridget Jones um yeah if she
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was like on a lot of anti-anxiety medication okay so tell me about the process of coming to write a
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book like I know you're a huge bookworm yeah and I know you love to read especially fiction so I do
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like what what inspired you to want to write your own like did it kind of come naturally were you
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kind of like I've always wanted to do this now I have the opportunity I have always wanted to
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write a book and I have always wanted to write about this like super uh romantically anxious
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person yeah um but I don't I just like thought I wasn't qualified like I was always under the
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impression like I had to go back to school and like get a master's in creative writing or like
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I had to take a class like I was always looking up like creative writing like USC and then I don't
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know I was just like waiting for something to like give me the permission that I was looking for
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totally and then one day I kind of just realized like I think I don't need that I think I can kind
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of just write a book if I want to right and I think giving myself that permission kind of just
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like the floodgates open yeah and then once I kind of wrote the first sentence it just all like
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kind of spilled just kind of spilled out yeah at that point were you pulling from any inspo for
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for Phoebe the world itself I was definitely the anxiety piece I was kind of pulling
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from my real life I am also super anxious yeah when it comes to romance and so I had kind of
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used like my lack of dating experience and and threw that in there yeah um so this one's definitely
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yeah for for the late bloomers for sure beautiful I think that's a wonderful thing thank you do you
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have any like any books that you were reading like have you read adult fiction for a while
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like as an adult because I got back into adult fiction like I want to say like two three years
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ago like I for some reason thought like at past a certain age I'm like oh I guess I have to read
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self-help books from the rest of my life but then I realized I was like wait I don't have to do that
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I can read fiction still and I kind of got back into it yeah was that the same for you or are you
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always I've always been a fiction reader love but for whatever reason like I wasn't reading
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I was always like desperate for the romance right within like literary fiction because I kind of
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thought like the only thing I could be reading in my 20s was literary fiction for I don't know I
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guess you kind of like put yourself in a box once you turn a certain age exactly for your reading
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and then i was like wait i can be reading like cheesy romance like as much as i want and then
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i was like that's awesome it's actually so tea that's so fun and that's so awesome it's me and
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my kindle against the world it really is and so i think for phoebe i took from like every genre
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that i love like there's part cheesy romance there's part like just like general women's
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fiction and like weird girl lit fic like yeah so i kind of yeah i drew from a lot of those that's
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amazing do you have any favorite books that like were kind of inspiring to you as you were writing
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did you read it all while you wrote like I know sometimes people actually did oh um there is this
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author who I'm obsessed with Emily Austin okay and she writes about really unique mentally ill women
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and I'm obsessed with her and I think everyone should read her books and those definitely
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informed my writing about mental illness for sure and also just like a lot of i just like love a
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good rom-com like emily henry yeah um christina lauren um emily henry wrote people we meet on
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vacation we meet on vacation she wrote book lovers is my favorite i feel like she has five and
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everyone feels really really strongly about like which one is the best that's true um yeah i know
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the book talk girls do not play around they do not play no on goodreads that was like one of the
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first things i talked about with my team when i came out with my first book because i was like
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goodreads is scary goodreads is scary i take the recs very seriously but goodreads man do they
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write a novel in there if they don't like an addiction to goodreads like it's really bad it's
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my most used app which sucks because no one else uses it but i check goodreads probably
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50 times a day I love good reads it the the recs are so real on there but like I was so afraid of
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my own book being put on there because I was so afraid of what people would write terrifying yeah
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and I'm letting myself look at Phoebe reviews before it comes out and I'm gonna really really
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try not to do that after it comes out I think it's gonna do really well and I think everyone's
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gonna love from what I've seen everybody's already really loving it so I think that's
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a beautiful thing that it is did you guys get to send out arcs and stuff yes that's so great yeah
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that kind of stressed me out because I didn't know much about like that whole process right
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but arcs like there are some things that I've changed since the arc and I have like pretty
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severe OCD so like going to sleep at night knowing that like there are people reading an unfinished
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copy of my book that's crazy you change things after arcs that's crazy yeah uh definitely like
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not a lot like no like the plot is the same no I love that but like there are some sentences in
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the arc that I'm like I hate this sentence it is killing me that people have read this sentence
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I feel you that's how I felt when I started writing the proposal for my fiction book because
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it went through so many versions that like I changed some stuff but just structurally like
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sentence wise so the some of the versions they got I was kind of like fuck did you have arcs
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with your book with my first book yes yeah I did change anything no because at that point I feel
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like with that book was very different though for me because I feel like because it was like self
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help slash memoir it it was almost like I wanted to set it and forget it because it's really hard
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for me to be vulnerable like that yeah to that extent totally about myself yeah like I feel like
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I could write that way about other people or made up people but like about myself it was making it
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hard so I almost like didn't want to look at it again because I felt like I might change too many
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things but it was mostly because it was about me that's really i think i'll feel differently though
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about the fiction yeah it feels different to me well at some point like because i was still
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editing a little bit after the arc um and my agents were like you you're making it worse and
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you have to stop like it gets to a point where it's like you you just can't look at it anymore
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which is so scary because yeah like it's done yeah i could have worked on that forever honestly
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trust that you've done a wonderful job you've done a wonderful wonderful job do you see phoebe
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having any future books it's a really good question i definitely so i got a it was a two
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book deal and i didn't know what i was going to do with the second book but i think i've decided
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it's going to be like in the phoebe universe so like a character from phoebe will make an
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appearance but like it won't be a direct sequel and you can totally read it as a standalone i
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think that's awesome though but i think like because a lot of phoebe is like about turning
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30 and something that I was grappling with and like I kind of used her yeah to like come to terms
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with something in my real life I think if I have something like that again where I'm like this is
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something that I need to come to terms with I could bring back Phoebe okay it's like kind of
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like my therapy she was really like the best therapy I've ever had oh that's so beautiful
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so I think I could maybe bring her back in the future but as for now her story is I think that's
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great though I love when we know like you know for sure because like even I've read some really
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really good fiction books that were just either standalones or they were duologies like no more
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than two right I think that's great right I think that's beautiful yeah how was the editing process
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I like I think I like editing more than the writing that's too yeah I think because it's
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like at least everything the story and like where I want it to go is out yeah and now it's just about
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like making everything flow and like perfect and perfect which I think is a lot easier for me than
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just like getting the story out yeah did you have any okay so for the suitors of phoebe yes did you
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have any people in mind i always have people in mind i there's one so there's three suitors yeah
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there's jonathan her roommate and best friend okay love there's finn who is a new teacher at
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her school okay and then there's matthew who she went to high school with and resurfaces in her
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life um through hinge and also words with friends and so jonathan is described as like being like
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so hot it's like kind of like overwhelming and for him i have i was kind of always picturing
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david corn sweater jonathan bailey um good choices yeah because it's just like who what can you do
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there they need that though i love the book talk girls love a good description so that yeah yeah
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so and then for finn i always pictured evan peters okay and i was writing but it changed
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to hudson williams pretty immediately upon heated rivalries had to swap really quick yeah
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and then matthew i've been picturing joe keery so he's like a little bit alt i love that yeah
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nice diversity nice different kinds of hotness yes different kinds of hotness and phoebe i can't
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picture no yeah he is whoever she is just kind of like a mop of curly hair to me yeah I love that
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I think that's wonderful because I I love watching the book talk girls do like um sketches like of
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what they believe that my explore page is shocking when you see it and it's all romantic stuff like
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because I feel like especially now I've been watching a lot of different kinds of like
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I would say like yeah like romantic like fantasy kind of romance stuff but also I've been watching
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lots of other things to try and inspire the writing yeah of like the fiction world and
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because the world building is I would say the hardest part for me yeah I can't even imagine
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I'm not smart enough to do that especially in the like romantic world that's actually why I'm
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co-writing because like I have someone helping me yeah because I feel really confident I can write
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like characters I can write banter I can write romance that kind of thing but like the world
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building I was so like nervous about because it's so expansive when it's like in a fantasy world
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it really is like I think about how like the Game of Thrones universe was written all by one person
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and that like stresses me out yeah because I'm like oh my god how am I supposed to do that like
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I see people like Game of Thrones historians do family trees and I'm like he wrote all the way
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that that's crazy how do you I don't how do you do that I mean whenever I'm reading fantasy it's
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almost like distracting like how intense and I'm just like how did someone how did someone do this
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yeah how did they how did one person one brain no for real I think the same thing I think what's
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your favorite kinds of tropes like in not just like romanticity but also just fiction in general
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if you're looking at the romance fiction i'm looking at the romance i'm a i i love enemies
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to lovers me too like it doesn't get better than that which like now looking at my book it's like
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i did three friends to potential lovers options and it's like what why like but it worked out but
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it's like next book like maybe enemies to lovers yeah um i love enemies to lovers like because i
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need i can't do insta love like to me like first kiss needs to happen last page chapter 50 i need
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like the whole book to be like tension build up to me that's better than like when they actually
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get together i agree and that doesn't really happen with like insta lover less so friends
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lovers yeah i'm all about that and then within enemies to lovers yeah one bed at the end
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like when i get those only one room left yes when there's like memes of like i'm reading under my
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covers 3 a.m and there's one bed left at the end like i am sprinting around my house like it is
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truly well now i'm gonna be up for hours it is my favorite like the second an author mentions like
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we need to stop at a hotel i'm like let's go i'm like yes yes yes i know i feel like
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that's why i've been averse to ya only because i don't mind ya i feel like there's ways to do ya
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in a way that's like you're not edging me the whole time yeah like they give you a little
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something yeah obviously doesn't need to be graphic like i i felt like reading that's how
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i felt reading thrown a glass because i know thrown a glass is really good i really want to
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get into it i really loved the first one i started the second one and then they panned to the
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fireplace one too many times and i was like they better kiss me drew you will like it is gonna
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take you about 900 900 plus pages uh no 900 times like three right but you will it does like i think
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as her audience grew she got more comfortable with like that's true more like sexual that's
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yeah and so you will get there yeah it will be in like the seventh book but it was it's man and i
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I've heard many a good thing about that series.
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And I also read ACOTAR, read the whole ACOTAR series, too.
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I will say with my full chest, I am in love with ACOTAR.
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Honestly, too, the fifth one, the sisterhood part of it brought me to tears.
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oh it's crying there's it's beautiful and there's so much um like especially in like the second book
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like Feyre like coming to terms like with herself like there's so much more to it than just like
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romance I agree yeah the world building of that world building and there's like powerful females
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just like being badasses I love banter I love banter that is um how I learned I love one bed
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at the end like i learned i i really learned talk about a slow burn talk about slow burn had to wait
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a while for that one oh yeah i know i was even telling my my friend because i got my other
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friends my girlfriends to read it we were all kind of reading at the same time um and then one of my
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friends she was like are they gonna fucking kiss or what and i was like go just steady the course
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because when it happens it's gonna be awesome it's well worth the wait
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chapter 55 the one the only actually i feel like you're either a chapter 54 girl which is like
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kind of the like lead up to chapter 55 or the chapter 55 yeah that's girl and i actually would
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say i'm a chapter 54 me too because i even in writing well like first of all writing smut in
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any regard because i haven't even really touched it yet i've only like like barely scratched the
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surface on writing that but i even so it's humiliating writing i was gonna ask how you feel
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i avoided it completely in phoebe because i just kept i couldn't my i just kept thinking about my
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pop-up reading it and i was like i'm i'm gonna skip it for this book yeah yeah you know you're
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i gotta babysit my way in there i really it freaks me out like i i want to do it yeah but i just can't
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and i love to read it i love to read it writing it it's another animal and like people know you
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yes and so it's really hard I think when people know you and you're writing like really intimate
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sex scenes and like are they going to be thinking of you like how does this work like what are the
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politics here right what are the boundaries yeah what are the boundaries I agree because it is
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even what I've written so far has not even crested really it's not even actual smut it's just like
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sexual tension yeah which I enjoy writing like that that part's easy yeah but even there was
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like there's like a little bit of physicality not really anything at all it's more so a pants
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the fireplace thing but like i even in baby stepping and i'm like i'm really gonna have to
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get in there get my hands dirty that sucks yeah i'm not looking forward to that it's god bless you
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and like please let me know how it goes because i i want to i want to get there for book two my hope
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my hope is that i can offload most of it onto my co-writer yeah i'm like you need to get in there
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girl and maybe i'll edit a little because i'm getting i'm getting nervous yeah thinking about
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it yeah just getting anxious just thinking about it I think for me it's just like I'm thinking about
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like my family reading it I don't I guess I don't really care about just like anyone else besides
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my family I don't know it's just like really freaks me out I guess I think I'll say I had a
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co-writer and just like she wrote those scenes so from page like 300 to 302 like I didn't write
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that don't worry about that like read it if you want skip it if you want so I might just say like
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yep someone else wrote that don't you don't have to worry about it i don't know what's right i agree
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i i was writing it in like i obviously want smut in mine even my co-writer was like i'm so excited
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i really want to write smut because in all of her books they've all been like the ones she's
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written before they've all been ya so she was like i've actually never even really gotten to
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go there so i'm excited i'm like and i'm excited for you yeah to get in there yeah uh but i do feel
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like i also have ocd so i i do feel like i'm gonna be so analytical that i'm gonna have to get in
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there but you're right because it is one of those things where you're like if someone's reading this
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are they going to think that this is what i'm rocking with yeah and then it feels almost too
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intimate right way right so i get it and i have like when in my like my smart preference
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i'm still learning what that is because i think it's really hard a lot of i'm reading crescent
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city right now have you read crescent city i've only skimmed a couple of it yeah a little bit of
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it i haven't actually definitely daunting i have it on my kindle too i'm in the second they're huge
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they're 800 pages each and like set in modern day which is really kind of hard to wrap your
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head around that was kind of the part that was throwing me when i tried i was kind of like i
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don't like that they have iphone that i'm about that yep it's it's definitely hard yeah but i
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just got to the book i mean kind of a spoiler of when they first have sex but they don't have sex
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until like the middle of book two yeah we're talking about like 900 plus pages oh yeah and
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the words that she's using to describe certain body parts I don't feel like I'm aligning with
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and I feel this a lot when I'm reading smut like what what words you do you're right that's tea
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that's hard you're right because right now she's describing like the female anatomy she's just
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using the word sex yeah describe like oh her sex and I'm just like I don't think I I like that
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right now I'm not loving that but what else do you use yeah it's hitting my you're right there's
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nothing that you can do yeah that's true it is kind of a dealer's choice it's a dealer's choice
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and it's nothing I haven't found anything yet that I'm like yep that's it yeah that doesn't
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make you go that's the word yeah doesn't make you recoil just a little so I think that's something
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that as authors like we will have to figure out it's not easy it's not easy no that's true like
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I that was something else I because I had sent and I'll send it to you too actually if you'd like
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my proposal with my intro stuff I love to I'll text it to you after but I sent it to my friend
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Taylor Tomlinson and she was like this is fucking awesome because she loves reading fiction and she
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was like this is so good and she was like I love the banter and that's kind of how I picture writing
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smut because sometimes the banter especially during smut can be a little it can throw me just
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a little like where I'm kind of like well why would you say that like I think that like in my
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head like some of the things the men say to the women is kind of like ah that would take me out
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of it yeah that would take me out of it if that was me yeah it makes you go oh I hate that a little bit
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yes uh and I think that is like I was talking about banter with her and I was like with banter
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even with flirting I like I say it out loud it to myself and if it makes me like then I don't
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then i change it so key yeah i i have to hear it and if it hits my ear wrong i have to rewrite it
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that's so smart yeah because it's like if it's if it makes me feel cringed like
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then i have to change that's so smart yes so much of romance can be cringe and i found that too like
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reading things out loud is really helpful and like some of it some cringe is okay yes of course
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but sometimes a tasteful amount of cringe is always okay but when it makes you go like
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and takes you out yeah it's really hard it's there's such a delicate balance yeah i agree
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i even um one of i think like my favorite fantasy romance books like that i've read is called um
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a curse carved in bone it's like a viking one yes that's the c that's a sequel to yes it's like
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there's two of them so it's like a duology it's done after the second one which is kind of tea
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i actually really love that author i love her her romanticity books i've read a couple of them
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um and they're all so good but did you see she has a new one yeah she has a new one called well
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I read Bridge Kingdom which was also really good that's like I only read the first one though and
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I I was starting to read the second one but she moved on to another couple and I was like don't
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care about this couple like the first couple took so long to get together that I was like all right
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then we're gonna go into them and then the next one's her brother and his girl and I was like
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I don't care about them those are hit or miss when we when we switch to a different couple
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yeah it depends yeah like if there's more like i feel like akatar was different because there was
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like so much building right that eventually when you pivoted you're like okay cool like what are
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these two up to it was also like a very natural segue in akatar because she gave us that little
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one yes that kind of christmas special yeah the christmas special that planted the seeds and kind
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of transitioned us yes you're right so i hated that one but yes yeah i read it in like five hours
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i felt like it was over i know like i didn't like this one couldn't put it down read it in a few
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i know i was like oh she's just shopping this whole goddamn book like i kind of like just like
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seeing like slice of life no you're right though that's t because i was like i am enjoying them
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living life though yeah i guess that's kind of nice yeah because it was kind of like i don't
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think we needed it but like i would read anything that she wrote so i guess i guess i needed it yeah
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exactly it was for me specifically but i read the viking one and it was i thought she did such a
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wonderful job of like building like tension it was like an enemies to lovers thing it was like
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a betrayal thing or re-earning trust that kind of thing love it what about tropes that make you dnf
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do you have any i'm not uh i don't really like an accidental pregnancy i hate those ones there's
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one that does it really well called out on a limb okay yeah which which i really liked but i think
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that's a really that's an exception i think i and that's because i love the author and i was like
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i'll read this because i love her and it paid off but i don't think i would pick up uh an accidental
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pregnancy yeah same yeah that's i read one that's like a stress that's stressful like i don't want
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i don't want to be thinking about that yeah i don't want to immerse myself in that not in this
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world yeah not right now not right now i i even like for the accident the pregnancy trope one i
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also hate that i read one called from blood and ash yes have you read that no but i've heard of
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it don't read it it's pointless like i i enjoyed myself i guess to an extent um but i was kind of
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losing me because there was so many things going on that it was like it felt like one of those
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where it feels like i'm being attacked on all sides yeah like i i feel like i have to take
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notes because i can't remember any of the different magical elements and then like
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Yeah, and there was a point where there were wolves, too.
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And then the wolf, like, was talking about having, like, a threesome with her and her guy.
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And I was like, what the hell is going on in this book?
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Do you ever, like, when you're reading fantasy, just, like, read a page that you're like, if I read this out loud to someone, they would commit me.
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Like, if anyone caught me reading this, they would think I'm a freak weirdo.
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last night like and i was reading a chapter of my book where like a fire sprite dragon hybrid
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was lounging on a wooden coffee table and it was singeing the coffee table but her body was so
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curvy that like the guy didn't notice that his coffee table was burning because she was so hot
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what the hell are you talking like physically like her body and i was just like what what the hell
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where where how did we get how did we get here i'm glad but like how i'm not judging i'm just
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kind of confused i guess yeah i'm a little uncomfy that is how i felt reading from blood
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and ash like and i read the the prequel to it because like the the from blood and ash one i
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think there's like five books i read three of them because i was at first when i started reading
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fiction i was like i was trying to be a completionist so i was like let me at least finish yeah
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but then it got to a point where i was like these books are so goddamn long i can't take it anymore
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so I switched to the prequel almost identical in every way except it was ancestors like the
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her ancestors but it was still good so I was like enjoying myself but then it was like that one's
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like four books I think I got to book three they're building up to this enormous war they're
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like this this huge fucking thing she spent so much time like earning respect from other gods
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and whatever the fuck was going on and then literally i saw like the start of one chapter
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it starts saying that she starts feeling sick i go no they're not gonna do that to my fucking
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girl i literally was like they're not gonna do that to my fucking girl there's no way i've spent
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six books getting here there's no fucking way and then it was like another one she randomly threw
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up again i said no fucking way dude no way no way then she finds out she like goes to her friend who
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like is like a doula in essence in this world and she like tests her essentially and she's like oh
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my god pregnant not just pregnant pregnant with twins no pregnant with twins in fact so much so
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that they're both magical and they're siphoning all her power so she actually can't no fight in
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the war no i said dnf i'm not finishing this book i was like i was so angry i put it down i was like
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i'm not you guys have wasted my time and now you're gonna take my girl out right before the
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big game that's crazy there's never a normal pregnancy it's either like they're siphoning
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their power one has wings that won't fit through your pelvis it's like always something like
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extremely and awful dramatic and awful and you would think in the magical world they would have
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figured that out just figure it out yeah you they would have figured that out you have all the
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control that's like a crazy thing about romanticy that like sometimes bothers me is that like
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a character could be in a situation where it's like you have no way out like yeah you will die
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yeah and then it's like wait a minute i've had this amulet in my pocket the entire time as it
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turns out randomly realize just put these pants on this morning amulet happens to be in it and
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it's gonna get me out of this exact situation that had no loophole and that and that we have
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been like agonizing over for the last eight chapters and it's like i'd almost rather the
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person die because it's like exactly it feels i don't know it kind of almost feels like a cop
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out sometimes i agree when you just throw in this like magical thing artifact that well especially
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because the whole time magic has not been helpful and then all of a sudden it's just helpful when
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when it is when you don't want yeah exactly and that's why when they when they benched her before
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the big fight i was like i'm not reading this shit i'm not reading this shit not to mention
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those entire books they were fucking and sucking all over those books why now you got pregnant all
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of a sudden why now all of a sudden before the war yeah right before the war huh decided not to
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pull out right before the war all of a sudden do you feel like good about dnfing yeah if it's
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justified in that way yes sometimes i feel like i should go back and finish it because i was just
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getting annoyed and so that's why i like i don't always dnf unless something like that happens and
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i'm like i'm never gonna i don't need to see how this ends because i'm over it i wish i could dna
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and if i needed to if i really needed to i would just look up the end i was like i'm not wasting
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my time reading this i'm just gonna look it up because i'm angry now yeah which is what i did
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with that book yeah because i was like i'm not sitting through another book when you're gonna
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bench my girl and i was like really rooting for her at that point i was like yes yes yes like i'm
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so down my mind like won't let me dnf a book because that's what i was too this isn't like
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if i already read 200 pages of this it's gonna count towards my goodreads goal it's gonna have
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to and if i can't mark it i have to mark it as red on goodreads for it to count that's true
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that's a good that's a good goal marker though and i can't mark it as red if i didn't read it
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to completion my sister says on her kindle that the little like the little percentage at the
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bottom she's like racing that thing yeah she's like every time i see it i'm like oh my god i'm
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almost done i'm like 50 of the way through oh my god sometimes it makes me sad when i look at that
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things it is i'm almost done i know that's a bummer i read the throne of glass kindle version
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that was all of the books in one pdf i guess or one ebook and i was done i would say i read like
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probably the first three books so like over a thousand pages two percent done
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that was really really hard that's fucking insane what about fourth wing you've read fourth wing
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i've read fourth wing how do you feel about it i am much more of an akatar yeah girl i feel that
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i read the first one and i think i read fourth wing right after i finished all of akatar and
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akatar was my first ever romanticy oh yeah yeah and so then to read fourth wing right after it
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i was like this just kind of feels like a fan fiction yeah of akatar it was like zayden was
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like doing shadows and and mine reading it was just like all too similar right and not as good
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to me and so i was i didn't mind it like i was totally entertained the world itself is cool the
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world itself is cool i like the school like yeah it kind of gave like hogwarts vibes which i really
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like yeah and i actually like the second one better oh which most people like hate the second
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one i like the second one better and then the third one i was like i'm done oh i'm finished
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now i have actually completely finished thank you though thank you yeah the gen z banter
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jenzy banjo yeah i can't you know not my fave i'll be honest not my fave and i really struggled
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with violet just because i i really like what the author was trying to do with like chronic illness
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rep but it was really hard to like believe like on one hand she's like this really really fragile
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girl and then on the other hand she is saving the entire kingdom like with physically with her
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power in her body yeah so that i was like trying having a hard time wrapping my head around but
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yeah i'm like one second she can't cannot walk yeah in the other second she has completely saved
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the entire world yeah and then she's like that was nothing but a scratch yeah exactly i'm good
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so that was hard this episode is brought to you by pandora i'm such a sentimental gift giver like
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i need the gift to mean something which is why pandora is kind of perfect and for me personally
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if I was going to get someone a gift from Pandora, I would get them earrings. My Pandora earrings are
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some of my faves. I'm wearing one right now. Beautiful. But they don't just have earrings.
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They also have everything from lab grown diamonds to colorful enamel pieces. So it never feels
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generic. It's always giving thoughtful because Pandora is more than just jewelry. It's personal
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shop Pandora today in store or online at Pandora.net. I read Quicksilver. Did you read
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quicksilver i fucked with quicksilver me too i fucked heavy with that one did you read the
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second one no did you no i started it haven't finished it yet though but i'm not dnfing yet
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i just haven't finished is it what's it what's it like it's really it's good still but it is
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getting insane there is a lot of things that happened well that's another thing too like
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once they brought in the vampires at the end i was kind of like like i would say up until like
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85 90 percent of the book i was like yeah yeah yeah once they brought in the vampires i was kind
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of like all right we're going somewhere completely different no worries but i just felt like there
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was already so much happening i was like okay a third a fourth a fifth a sixth magical element
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okay all right so i i liked how it ended i loved it i had such a blast reading it i thought it was
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so t second one i was reading and i was kind of like okay all right like there's just a lot going
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on with the vampire element of it which is it's kind of throwing me a little bit which is a bummer
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because I really loved the first one you'll have to let me know because yeah it's really hard for
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me to read a sequel when I don't remember anything from the first one girl let's just leave it as it
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was yeah what it was it was beautiful but some girls who recap on TikTok like are doing God's
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work like if I like looked up I forget what just came out I think for fourth wing I was like fourth
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wing recap before the third one came out and these girls are doing whiteboards like full like
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notebook of notes and it's really really helpful yeah it helps to brush up yeah yeah i've done that
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before with um like youtube videos like sometimes people do like little animations of it just to
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kind of walk you through it again yeah which i appreciate yeah but i really fucked heavy with
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quicksilver i really liked quicksilver it was one of those that i closed the book and i was like
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wow five stars and then i opened goodreads and everyone's like worst thing i've ever read
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and i'm like oh wait shoot it was like oh i had a blast and then do you ever like read the reviews
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and you're and you're like okay yeah that is true yeah yeah i'll give you that sure i will give you
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that yeah that happens to me a lot when i'm like and sometimes it with lit fic too when they're
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like this was really hard like bad problematic harmful and i'm like shit i completely missed
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that yeah you're like oh yeah yeah i i read um have you ever read phantasma yes what'd you think
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about that one let me pull up my goodreads review yes bring up your i remember i had a problem with
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it yeah oh i think it was the end didn't make any sense to me yeah the end was really confused yeah
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i think i just really had a like i didn't understand it in chantra yeah i gave it three
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stars yeah see the i would give it three too yeah the second my review was another book that begs
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the age-old question am i dumb or was that ending bad like i just think i didn't nothing me oh yeah
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because he was like a sorry spoiler alert yeah he was like a double agent but also yeah he also
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didn't remember her at all i i didn't yeah he was like he was saying like the first time he met him
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met her as a spirit on the outside of the house like he doesn't remember that because his dad
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wiped his memory wiped his memory which i was like so in the whole time because i was like wow
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victorian like ghosts kind of like spiritual kind of thing i've never read one like that like wow
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okay and it was like so horror like there was so much i know it had so much potential yeah like so
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i was like all right like and then at the end i i too was like what like i was so confused like
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and then the second one was so freaked out i was like i can't even dna no i finished the whole
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thing i just couldn't even i was like i feel like this was mostly for the sex the second one
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sometimes it's like and that's okay too that's okay i just thought the first one had so much
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like lore too and it took forever for them to fuck like it took forever it did but also that
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one like the what i really liked about it like i was i felt like i was there like the ambiance
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was really really good same i agree the world building was so awesome it was but just like
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the plot just really fell through at the end and the second one i was like okay so it's like the
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movie ready or not like have you ever seen that movie i don't think so it's basically like she
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marries into a family and then uh they basically all try to kill her until the very next day she
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has to like run from them the whole time that's like their thing and I've told people like that's
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essentially the plot of the second one like in Chantra she's like they're playing this game and
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like they're trying to kill each other but they're all spirits she's not so if she dies she'll die
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for real but like her guy and like the there was so much sex in that one way more than the first
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one which I'm like that's cool but it kind of feels like we're moving from one room to the next
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just to fuck in a different way uh-huh like that's it felt like we're just this is all fluff until
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the next time we fuck yeah which i that's when you start losing me because i i am a huge fan of
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of smut in the books don't get me wrong but it has to be like enhance the plot yeah there has
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to be a payoff to some extent when you're just wanting to watch them fuck in different areas
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of the house so i'm kind of like and it was a spirit yeah well he was a demon that time oh i
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love that i think the first one was a spirit this one's a demon blackwell i actually remember him
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well i remember and i know him well i know him well and the second they introduced him as having
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like white blonde hair i was like no why did you tell why did you say that oh don't tell me that
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because then it's like okay this is malfoy yeah that's what i was thinking too and then i'm all
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then i'm kind of creeped out i know i'm thinking lucious malfoy yeah i know because the second guy
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had brown hair yeah okay that's so maybe i'll read maybe i'll read maybe i'll read but the
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second one there's a point where they sorry spoiler there's a like i don't know the third
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or fourth time they fuck but they like fuck for real i guess and he when he pulls his dick out
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she talks about there being a piercing no and i said so now they have prince alberts in the
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spiritual realm like since no when did that demon go to get a person i guess that like fits with
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my vision of a demon yeah i guess but like who pierced the demon like did he go to a shop like
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that's where i was kind of like you lost me that's when it's like i need more world building yeah
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that's why i was like i need more context the piercing i'm leaving with more questions than
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answers yeah so that's why i was like when i read that part i went i was on a plane i remember
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reading it and i was going now why would they write that part in there it's like does the
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person next to me know that i'm reading about a dick piercing yeah i'm a demon yeah and then
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she's like oh yeah like it's that that whole paragraph is just for her to be like whoa right
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no so it really serves that would take me out a pretty good bit yeah that's hard i just didn't
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think demons were doing that shit but you know what do i know what do i know i know nothing i
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will say the ending of that one though is really beautiful and sweet and i think it's because
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there's a part at the end of that one which not to spoil it but like there's a part at the end
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where she forgets everything that author loves that yeah she loves to wipe people's memories
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complete amnesia yeah so she forgets everything and then the demon guy keeps with the dick
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piercing he keeps coming back um to the same spot to like essentially wait for her memory to like
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kick in okay takes her maybe a couple weeks after they get out of the house and then she's like
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i remember everything and then he's like thank god by the way don't forget i have a dick piercing
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don't forget one thing you can't forget the one thing you can't forget okay what's what are some
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fiction books that you like always recommend to people like you're like if you're if you're going
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into your foray of adult fiction like what are some that you're always recommending there is
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this book that really has not gotten its flowers it's called Idlewild oh okay um I've heard of it
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you have yeah I've heard of it okay it's by I believe the author's name is James Frankie Thomas
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and the book is about just these two like kind of like weird girls in high school and the high
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school is this like really like tiny like quaker liberal arts school it's super gay and it's just
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like about these two girls like finding themselves through like fan fiction and like sexuality and
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just like it really like captures the way i just remember how i felt in high school and it felt
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like everything was so intense in the end of the world and just like if my crush doesn't like me
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back like there's no reason for me to keep on living and like I just felt like I was back there
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when I read this book and the characters were just so well developed and I thought that was
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brilliant and that is a book when I read it that I was like I want to write oh that's because it
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just it just really yeah it's one of those books that makes you think about how important writing
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is and like yeah what you can do with it how powerful how powerful it can be totally so that
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book I really love there's also I was telling you um Emily Austin I just love her books like
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that's like the best world weird girl lit like in one of her books is there's this like the main
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character just like has a phobia of bald men and like the book is about her and I both navigating
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navigating that deep fear um and what else i mean akatar i'm always like you guys if you need
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romance if you need dip the toe must get i also really this is not a lot of people this is i don't
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know how people will feel about this i love ali hazelwood okay and i think she is she writes really
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cheesy books in a way that i love yeah the love hypothesis some people are like this is too cheesy
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for me is that the one that lily ryan was making yeah and i do get that but something about it
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like worked for me it's hitting every way there's a scene where i want one of my friends read it was
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like i can't read this she said she basically is fake dating her professor and there's right
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there's a scene where there's no seats left in the lecture hall and her and her professor
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everyone knows they're dating yeah quote unquote and she needs a seat and so she has to like sit
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on his lap and most people are like absolutely not like can't do the scene i was literally like
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chewing the pages you said it was working for me i was like i loved that book there's also this scene
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they have to like they're still trying to prove to everyone they're dating and where she has to
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put sunscreen on him to me this is like smile like i like i just i loved that book and they're
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like really nerdy which i really enjoyed yeah she writes a lot of like stem romance i think that's
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really cute though i think when you can enjoy it's like like we said earlier cringy but a tasteful
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amount it was some people are like too much right not tasteful for me it was too much for me i was
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like this it was just the right awesome um and her she kind of copy and pastes her books in a way
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that i love because i i'm just reading the same thing over yeah same tropes different different
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setting and it's always just like this massive hulking nerdy guy that is so hot and smart and
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yet has never had a girlfriend and for some reason and it's awesome because literally no one's ever
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taking off his glasses and seeing how beautiful he is exactly yeah so i really i love her i really
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do i think that's great that's how i felt about the samurai term pretty books i get that yeah i
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thought i read all those books in like two days because they're pretty pretty quick reads but i
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was like i was eating it up i will say though i am one of those people that if it starts going
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the way i do not like sometimes i will stop reading because i have the ending it's up here
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that's amazing i wrote it you can do that up here yeah i haven't read ya in a really long time and
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i'd like to yeah i read the those ones i would say like even if you watch the show i would say
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that both brothers are infinitely worse in the books yeah they both are even more terrible team
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germ like i was jeremiah i was jeremiah when i watched the show initially um and then obviously
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in the last season they made him the op of the century i literally episode one i was like they
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are running a smear campaign on my guy and it's working yeah because i hate him now too like he
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fucking sucks like they made him unbearable they did and he was like not like that the other
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fucking two so in the books both brothers are infinitely worse like they're like the cheating's
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far worse conrad's way meaner like like they're actually way fucking meaner to her in the books
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like in the show they really soften the edges so like i that book series is a perfect example of
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like cheesy but I was eating it up yeah I get that with that like I feel like I just watched
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the show I didn't read the books but like that should have been like my bread and butter but
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for whatever reason I was like I don't like Jeremiah I don't really like Conrad and then
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everyone's like well you're team belly and I'm like I don't think I like her either yeah yeah
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they made her unlikable as well can't do Laurel no no yeah no I was like yeah moms yeah unfortunately
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I kind of was just watching for like the vibes yeah I agree and I love when we're all doing a
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collective watch of something like i'll always watch i don't appreciate getting trying people
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trying to jump me for it but i did i wouldn't appreciate that either you know what's funny
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though is when i was going to bat for like the jeremiah girls because i was like i'm i'm standing
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on the platform of the last two seasons like he was awesome in the first two yes the last one
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yeah he sucked but that made lola tongue follow me so so you tell me you tell me that's so cool
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yeah i wonder i know she's always like no i'm team belly like i would love to know her on her
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filter her actual fucking team yeah and this isn't also kind of random but like conrad the
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guy who plays conrad his real life girlfriend also follows me okay so i'm like you know oh
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and mini to mini mills like she played uh steven's girlfriend yeah she also follows wow that whole
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cast wow the girls are fucking with me over there you've got them wrapped around your finger so now
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i have to go ask them what team they are for real oh and report back and then i violate their hip
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rights and i'm gonna tell everyone that's fine they won't mind they won't mind what about um
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like any sort of book series when you were a kid like did you love any book series as a kid yes
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when i was like little little i loved junie b jones oh i loved those books i feel like she was
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like the first like weird girl lit totally um the precursor and i loved gregor the overlander
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did you read those it was suzanne collins's series before hunger games yeah and it was more middle
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grade yeah and it was about this boy i think he like fell through his laundry machine and then
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stumbled along like the underworld with like these massive bats i don't really remember what it was
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about but it was amazing and i would reread those in a second love i loved the clickbooks oh i loved
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the click i want to reread those that i know i'm curious if they've held up i would say they
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probably haven't probably not i want to see how i read the clickbooks and pretty little liars too
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i read as a book book series too i feel like i stopped at some point with pretty little liars
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but i definitely was loving those yeah and then did you ever read the ttyl ttfn yes the white
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they were like green pink and they all talked later gator like solely and i am that was genius
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genius at the time i was like this is revolutionary this this is like my da vinci code like this is
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awesome right oh i loved those were you a twilight girl i was such a twilight girl
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love twilight too were you team jacob i feel like i see that for you yeah i was team jacob
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initially i think i think just across the board standard i'll normally pick the brown one yeah
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if it's between a brown and a white guy i'm like obviously i'm gonna pick the brown one
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um i think that's just kind of my vibes but like as an adult i think edward made more sense but
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that's only because i'm thinking about the money like he has endless amounts of money and you could
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live forever and you guys are in love so i guess it kind of works out but i think she would have
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been cool either way honestly i think she would have been happy no matter what except for when
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she had a kid yeah well actually i wonder like what would happen if she had a kid with jacob
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i guess that wouldn't i guess he wouldn't imprint on his own kid no i doubted it honestly well that
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part did throw me i remember being like i read those when i was in middle school so i remember
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when i read that part i was like what like i remember being like and i remember i read the
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first three and then my friend was telling me oh this is like the final one like breaking dawn
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and i was like oh and then she told me yeah like i think she has a baby in this one and like
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jacob i remember her kind of telling me and i was like you're fucking lying to me and she was like
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no i swear to god that's what happens in this book and that made me read it and i was like damn she
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wasn't fucking kidding they do do that in this book i remember it like making complete sense
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it's like everybody wins yeah in that regard like him falling to his knees over the baby and was
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like yeah well well he's imprinting and then when he's like well haven't you didn't it seem weird
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that we wanted to be around each other so much lately while she's like getting full term with
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her baby yeah i'm like yeah it makes sense to me that checks out i i think that the hunger games i
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love that book series and i've i even said this like in my publisher meetings like when i was
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selling my fantasy book um but i think the hunger games to this day has one of the strongest love
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triangles like ever written because it persists until the end that's so true and also like the
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love triangle exists as like it's not necessarily like which one's better it's like who she is when
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she's with them so it's like who who does she want to be who does she feel more aligned with
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so like obviously gail is like more of her fire it's more of her resentment it's more of her
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bitterness like it's revenge it's all that kind of stuff which she's already had and then pete is
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different it's like a an acceptance a peace a love like that kind of calm body chills
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and I was like I really did feel like that was one of the strongest love triangles because like
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obviously it's YA so there's no like sex happening which that that book series does not need sex
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they have a lot of things going on already a lot going on yeah they have way too much going on but
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like I think that it's beautiful the way that at the end first of all it ends the right way I was
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always a team pita girl but also i felt like she chose on her own and she chose because she's it's
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not necessarily what happened with gail it's more so that like she doesn't want to be angry anymore
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and she doesn't want to feel bitterness anymore and she's like he makes me feel like i could be
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more than that which i was like tea like i think that's one of the strongest love said and so true
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that's where i thought it it fell a little short for me with twilight because i loved that love
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triangle too but it was it wasn't really her choice in the end like it kind of was like she
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did choose edward yeah but then she still held on to jacob until the very last second and then
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he imprinted imprinted and then she's like okay well he's good now right now i can write right
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which i didn't really love i was like you didn't close that one the right way yeah like it felt
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very like i want her to be with edward so he's gonna be with the edward i wonder how you'll
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feel about phoebe's love square i know i'm so excited to read it because i i love a love triangle
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yeah i think love triangles are fun i think it's fun when the women's autonomous in that i also
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want to say i do love that phoebe is 29 yeah my girl's also 29 i love that look at us really
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really key age yeah i was gonna say yeah a lot happens yeah and even in one of the publisher
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meetings i had one question the woman asked me was would you be interested in making her 23
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and i was like no like and also she's a fairy so like technically speaking she's 700 i think
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she's fine everybody's in their hundreds so I think it's I think she's good I kind of hate
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reading books now when people are younger than me yeah which obviously is happening a lot as I age
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yeah well they're also like 18 yeah 19 and that's so young yeah that's why they're like now I'm
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ready to have a baby yeah yeah save the world first now I'm ready to have a baby and I'm 21
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works out perfectly like I feel like it I don't know when Feyre's age was mentioned for the first
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time in acotar but like when they dropped that like 23 bomb i was like oh oh man like don't and
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she's the youngest too so yeah or the middle i forget middle i don't know youngest or middle
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yeah but she's not the oldest which was another thing i didn't like either that's they made i
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felt like nesta was so hard to love for so long which i was like i get it but i was like wrap this
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up a little bit sooner it's making it hard for me to root for her i know i truthfully i haven't
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given in to nesta yet she was too awful like i'm all for like an unlikable female character who has
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her demons that has like an arc she went a few steps too far always like she she was bad to the
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bone and like so many people are like i'm so nesta and i'm like to to an extent but like she
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was so she was so bad like especially in the fifth book even like my friend carrie weird read it like
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after me like as i was finishing it and she was like i might quit i really can't stand her yeah
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and i was like i promise it gets better like it's not to the last fucking two chapters but i promise
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it gets better like she gets less awful it was and it went on for so long she waited to for that
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character redemption arc until the last page the last second right when you're like okay so i'm
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just gonna hate her forever i guess i guess that's kind of my thing with her yeah but i'm with you on
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the age i love that i think that we need more adult fiction with older women completely because
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you don't turn into dust when you turn 30 don't turn into dust yeah it's a beautiful thing you
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can still look yeah exactly thank you for saying that okay i'm gonna transition now into some fun
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facts about you miss author yeah we're gonna read some fun facts about you and you can tell
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amanda if they're incorrect interesting okay okay this one says there has been a new york
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post article written about you with the headline quote woman mortified to match with brother on
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dating app i would assume that's true i do remember that story i did match with my brother on a dating
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app or no i we didn't match we you just saw he was my suggested most compatible i did not match
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with my brother i just want to clear that up really quick we did not we did not mutually
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swipe right he was a suggested most compatible which i and i left swiped him
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what'd your brother say he was kind of like well that's i hope he left swiped me we were both home
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for thanksgiving which is why we got each other because we were in the same house they're like
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they're geolocating i just opened it and saw him and i was like this is
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that being the first one you see too painful painful especially dating apps yeah they're
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they're a prison prison okay this one says your very first post on instagram is from 2012 it's a
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picture of harry styles with the caption quote harry eating a pie that's that yeah that sounds
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true that sounds true as well just like an update on him i yeah it was a picture of him eating a pie
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with a heavily filtered heavily filtered heavily filtered any particular reason or just letting
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everybody know i think yeah i was just letting everyone know i just posted like pictures of like
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harry and niall for for quite some time those are the the your faves yeah and it was like that
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humor i thought like being funny was there was this really weird era in like 2013 where like
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humor was just like observations right it was just like that's so random like yeah exactly
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so i feel that i'm sure i was trying to be funny some of my old like like my oldest tweets like
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my twitter's been gone for years now but like i would say twitter was probably the first like
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social media presence i had outside of like facebook but um the thoughts i had and shared
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like nobody needs to know they weren't even bad they're just like pointless like they they really
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serve no purpose at all the way i spoke back then was so specific and weird and like not like it's
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a different language of its time yeah i.e harry eating a pie okay okay perfect did you uh uh read
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any fanfic about like harry and all them i did more imagines and one tumblr oh yeah one shots
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were my deal too yeah i i lived for those yeah my sister and i would send them to each other my
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sister being a lesbian by the way so that's extra funny that we would like send them to each other
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in college before she knew she was like a lesbian because i'm like now that i look back i'm like
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what were you getting out of that right hey everyone could get something from a one shot
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it's really just it's perspective they were that good yeah they were just that good i recently read
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i am a big avatar the last airbender fan so i love that show they're coming out with a movie
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the movie got leaked and there's like a ton of like edits being made of the movie like
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and all of the characters are now like 250 pounds of pure muscle and everybody's in their
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30s oh wow so all the girls are like now what is this and i i'm seeing so many edits that i got one
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a random tiktok that was like oh the two the girls who love shipping certain characters together
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of this animated series they're going crazy with the fan fiction right now you know what that made
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me do open up ao3 yeah i had to open it up again and i went and looked and now i'm reading one
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i'll keep you guys updated on if i like it please do i love fan fiction i love fan fiction honestly
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i think it really it's one of the ancient texts it really is especially for like a fiction that
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we love reading yeah and smut are you kidding me yeah i was really into the glee fan fiction space
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oh yeah you're a big glee yeah i was a huge gleek too i did a lot of clean fanfic yeah
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big clean big clean girl over here i was on um the podcast with um jenna ushkowitz yes and um
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i forget artie's real name kevin mikhail yeah yeah i was on their podcast it was really fun and
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there was a part where they were like we were talking about covers and i was like there are
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i listen to glee covers to this day because they're so good some of them dare i say better
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than the originals most most if not all and one of them i really love is i'm not going to teach
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your boyfriend how to dance with you by blaine of course the blaine like no one stood a chance
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when blaine was covering i'm telling you and that one especially i loved and they were both like
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that's so funny you say that like uh if people bring up Blaine covers that's like always one of
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them that they bring up is I'm not going to teach your boyfriend how to dance with you and I said
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I think that's because like obviously you know Blaine is a gay man in the show and you know he's
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with Kurt and you're like okay yeah I know that yeah but then when you watched him sing that song
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that was like one of the first times I watched him and I was kind of like
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why he kind of he's kind of sexy what is that well it's kind of strange oh Blaine Anderson is
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the hottest man alive truly in that one song i felt moved i felt moved i'm i have been moved by
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him since i was a very young girl i know you're a huge jonathan groff yes too so him being on that
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show oh i mean all your favorite things i will never be as alive as i was on tuesday nights
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at 8 p.m in 2010 i re-watched glee a few years ago too like front to back and it's still great
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it's still incredible those first three seasons yeah and then i can't speak for the rest yeah
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yeah they were really phoning it in at the end but like at the very end but right in the middle
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like three i would say like two and three i was like incredible like best show it was so good
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and honestly really progressive for the time completely when i look back now i'm like that
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show was honestly way ahead of its time it really was like way before any other shows were like
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daring to foray into shit like no i remember like when kurt and blaine had sex for the first time
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it was like a crazy thing that they aired that episode yeah like no one could like no one could
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believe it and like now it's like heated rivalry like like and but they kurt and blaine walked so
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ilia and shane could run that's true yeah we must pay respect we must to the ancient texts okay uh
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This next fun fact says you used to have a choker with the planet Saturn on it.
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Every fact you're like, oh, yeah, I'm sure I think.
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next one says before you got big on tiktok you worked as a preschool teacher that's true and
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how were you with the kids i feel like kids i think good like i i yeah i loved the kids so much
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but that really was the only part of the job i liked like i couldn't do the lifestyle i yeah
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it was really a big preschool teacher i was like so drained oh my god i can only imagine yeah i
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really i didn't really have a life molding mine yes that's what you were doing yeah oh completely
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okay last one it says in a quote from your high school newspaper you really dug deep yeah you
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said your brother noah would quote eat all the applesauce packets and leave none for you
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that's a quote in my high school's newspaper you and your brother man damn
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i i mean if i said it i i don't i feel like i wouldn't lie about that
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there was no context of that it was just a picture of us uh damn can i
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get a quote about your brother and you're like yeah he fucking eats all the applesauce so there
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you go oh you know what this was no it was in the era of go-go squeeze oh okay and i was obsessed
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with those yeah and i guess he ate them all yeah that's that rings true and you had to hold him
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accountable that rings true yeah he completely blasted him in school paper put out a hit piece
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on your brother in the school newspaper when i was in high school i got voted most likely to want
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to be stranded on an island with which felt racially charged really for me well I just
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thought I was like you guys think I'm going to turn into fucking Tom Hanks when I go there
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I get that I'm just going to automatically assimilate like that wrong um but I felt like
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I should have gotten something else like like funniest yeah I don't know I felt shortchanged
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we had to write our own which is like for yourself our most our own most likely to's
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which is so dumb um but I saw mine circulating on TikTok the other day because some girl I
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guess from my high school found a an old yearbook there so like i'm like mortified it was like
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most likely to be betrothed to all of the members of one direction at the same time
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like don't let 18 year olds write their most likelihoods don't do that why would you do that
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to me don't do that to me now if you see it don't post it again do not post that i did
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i got into one direction i felt like a tiny bit late but when i was in there i was in there
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oh i was a big jonas brother girl though so that's yeah i think that's why i was like so
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balls deep in jonas brother shit that like when one direction came around i remember like actively
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thinking to myself i can't get into that i don't have i was like bandwidth i can't even open the
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door because if i do yeah that's all that's gonna be up here and i need to focus oh i was so sick
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but then eventually i had to give in eventually they got me they got my fucking ass i watched
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that acoustic cover they did on youtube of one thing you guys can look it up still it has like
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fucking 50 million fucking views but that was the first video i watched them and i said well now i
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gotta get into this i'd like to get involved with that do you remember the acoustic cover of them
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doing more than this in the baseball jersey yes of course i do that i think that was my most that
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is my most watched youtube video of all time yeah that is burned into my when harry got long hair i
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said now you're gonna have to stop or i'm gonna be i'm gonna do something crazy
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he he that nothing has existed like that or will exist again i'm telling you yeah like the way that
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he made me feel yeah the yeah the feeling i got inside my body i almost felt sick all the time
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yeah i'm just thinking yeah yeah okay those are all your fun facts awesome but to circle back
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you're you're so fun you have so many fun facts thank you I sure do I want to circle back to
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Phoebe um what do you hope everybody takes away from your from your very first book how exciting
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but also uh just your first fiction book your first world building kind of book I hope that
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everyone takes away that everyone has their own metaphorical virginity something that they're
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really focused on a milestone that they feel like they should have hit and they haven't so you're
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not alone in that and you're gonna you're not a freak everyone has their thing everyone has their
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shit yeah and yeah I think that's beautiful and would you want to see Phoebe get made into a movie
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or a tv show I would yeah that would be that would be I think she'd make a good movie do you think
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you would be in it I would like to be there's like a very there's like a side character at one point
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who has like five lines who i could see myself oh making one of those author cameos if you were
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gonna cast it who would you cast in your main in your principal cast well i would i think joe curie
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yeah um david corn sweat david corn sweat evan peters evan peters right for the men actually
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i'm switching him out oh to hudson that's right um and i would want phoebe to be on an unknown
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actress oh that's such a great idea that's beautiful yeah i love that yeah look at you
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you have all the plans thank you I'm so excited do you have anything you want to tease about your
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next book or just to expect it other book I hope you can expect it it's definitely like a
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psychological process that I'm going through to write a second book after this one but hopefully
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you can expect it yes I think you can yeah and I want to say too I'm so excited for you I'm so
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proud of you I cannot wait to read your romance oh my gosh I can't wait to read Phoebe oh my god
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I can't wait it's gonna be amazing and beautiful I'm so happy for you thank you so and I really do
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think this is like this makes the most sense for you like to write a fiction to write a rom-com
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like anything like that I think you're like such a genius for doing it but I also think you have
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the brain for it and I'm so excited that means the world thank you so much oh my god of course
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it's gonna be amazing and beautiful thank you all so much to you for tuning into this episode
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of the comment section thank you so much to my amazing guest Brooke Averick for maybe the one
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or two people that don't know you oh please where can everybody find you um i also have a podcast
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called brook and connor make a podcast you can find that anywhere and yeah a few on goodreads um
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brook avrick and then i think that on instagram as well yes and make sure y'all go get your copy
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of phoebe verman's gonna lose it out yesterday yes out yesterday make sure i'm sure all of you
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bitches already have it but if you don't make sure you go get it i actually also bought a copy
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true that's so sweet you didn't have to do that I know I didn't that's very sweet I know that
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I'm very and trust me I do not buy every book I see thank you so I'm very excited for you all to
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read it I think it's gonna be amazing thank you so much to the amazing Brooke for coming on the
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show don't forget new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday you can stream the
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thank you so much to my amazing guests thank you so much to all of you and I'll see you next time