UNDERWEAR ON MY FACE ＊NOT CLICKBAIT＊ ｜ Drew Afualo ft. Chris Olsen ｜ THE COMMENT SECTION EP 16
Summary
In this episode of Comment Section Show, Drew and Drew chat with TikTok's King of TikTok, Chris Olsen! They discuss everything from catcalling, consent, and TikTok s relationship with the internet.
Transcript
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The antithesis of catcalling that I've experienced is men saying the gay F-word to me in public.
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And there have been times when someone will say it driving by in their car, and I'll agree.
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Hey everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show starring me, your girl, Drew, your favorite, your one and only, always.
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And today I have one of my favorite people on the internet to ever exist, the king of TikTok himself, Chris Olsen!
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Oh my god, wow, I didn't even have all those titles for myself.
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I make it a habit to suck off every single one of my guests.
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Because I do it metaphorically, and now I'm going to do it physically.
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Yeah, there's only a few issues I see with that.
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Wow, I'm in for more than I even knew today in this little yellow chair.
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We have a giant fan because I said before this, I will.
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Ever since you graced the screens of all of our For You pages.
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Also, at a time that I feel like, I feel like a lot of people, around the time that I blew up,
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it was, like, the golden age of TikTok creators blowing up all at once.
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I would say, after that, it was really, it was, like, a lot harder to break through the mold.
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Yeah, but, I mean, it's because you were just talking about things that, in such a way that
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had not been done and that needed, that needed to be heard.
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Can you believe how many people are scared of you?
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I would say you have a one-bedroom at this point.
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Like, there are people who love you and you live in their heads, but, like, the amount
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of people who are just, who go about their days, like, waiting for that notification that
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you've stitched a video, or even, like, tweeted back at them.
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I don't have a Twitter, but I, like, popped onto your Twitter for the first time because
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That's where, like, it's fully, like, the hinges are absolutely off.
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Like, you know, we're, like, we're so, uh, you're so, like, directed on TikTok and it's
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Whatever, whatever thought pops into my head, you're going to say it.
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But it's also, yes, the amount of men who are scared that you're going to make a stitch about
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them, but the amount that want you to and that you don't is, like, almost the more powerful
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It's like, I see you keep trying to get me to give you a little bit of, like, my clout.
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They're not growing an audience, I don't think.
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I don't think Five Guys workers really do that.
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The one time that someone made, like, a full, maybe not the one time, but the one time I
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saw it where someone made a full, like, hate video about me.
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Initially, you're like, I'm ready to clap back.
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But then I was like, it makes him even more of a fucking loser.
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If he made this, and I didn't even see it, babe.
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Granted, I'm telling you all right now, I did see it.
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But, like, my thought is, like, if I don't say anything to you, this just makes this video
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Because it was his first time, like, getting a lot of views.
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He was like, oh, let me keep using Chris's name.
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Didn't someone even almost make, like, a velocity edit of you?
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But it was, like, a hate video at the same time.
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Yeah, and they picked a really good picture of me.
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And honestly, speaking of, that's a perfect transition, actually, into our topic for today.
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Because today, we're going to talk about the objectification of men and women.
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I support women's rights, and I support women's wrongs.
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Too many people are out here already supporting men's wrongs.
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So what are your, like, what's your knee-jerk reaction when I talk about objectification of men and women?
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Honestly, it's, like, it's, well, obviously, we center in society a lot around, like, how women are very consistently objectified.
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But I remember seeing a video about, like, the running one.
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So it was, like, it was a girl running down, like, the West Side Highway in New York.
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And she was, like, God, the men here are, like, so hot.
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And then a guy stitches it and is, like, what are you doing objectifying me?
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There's honestly a lot of times that I feel like women can get sometimes a free pass on objectifying men.
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It's, like, and it's not really focused on, like, no one's, like.
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It's not, like, violent in its very nature or aggressive.
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I honestly think, like, it's so interesting how we, like, talk about types in general a lot of the time.
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It's, like, people objectifying the way of, like, men being, like.
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I want, like, a 5'2 girl with 9 foot tall energy who weighs 12 pounds but is also thick.
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And at the end of the day, I'm, like, around the topic of types, why do we even feel the need to communicate them?
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Why do you need to even tell people your type and, like, and just, like, kind of, like, pigeonhole everyone your idea of what a woman should be or a man at this point.
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So, for objectification as a whole, I'm, like, I'm, I'm half, like, I understand it.
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But, at the same time, the voice memo that plays over that is being, like, Chris, get the fuck up.
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Because I know I should not be on my knees for no man.
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Especially not one with a watermelon between his legs, babe.
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Because, at the same time, I'm like, maybe, like, none of us should objectify people.
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Unless you're in that kind of relationship with them.
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And, like, when you were talking about types, that's a really good point.
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Where, as when you see terrible men who tend to objectify.
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But when they describe a type, it's all about looks.
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When you ask women, they're, like, someone who's nice.
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I would love someone who doesn't emotionally manipulate me.
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If there is anyone out there who fits that one criteria, we're set.
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If there's anything, like, I don't know, maybe have a job.
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Because they're, like, I need to make sure you're not rotten on the inside.
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Where I think that lends towards, obviously, patriarchy and, like, male-female gays.
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And I think a lot of times objectification is never for the women.
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Because the argument is always, like, it's a compliment.
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And I always think they're, like, well, why else would you go out dressed like that?
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And I always think, too, like, do you have any idea how long it takes to get ready sometimes?
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For some women who, like, do a full B, like, glam hair, everything.
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You think they're doing that for you when you work at Staples?
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She'd probably rather have Kohl's cash than be objectified.
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It's like, to do an hour and a half of, like, glam for the man who was, like, waiting on a doorstep that you just happened to walk by.
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If she was just doing it for that man, like, slay.
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Well, then, and then when men are like, well, what about when we get objectified?
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But it's more so because with him, it gets very aggressive in the sense where it's like, it's like fetishizing.
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So, like, I mean, I'm sure you deal with that, too, because you're a hottie, too.
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It's like, I think it goes back to what you were saying about women.
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It's like, when I'm not doing anything that's leaning towards the idea of, like, sexuality.
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Or, like, if I'm not literally crushing a watermelon between my thighs, I don't want you to talk about how, like, it looks like.
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Yeah, you're, like, you're literally, like, flipping a pancake, and they're like, oh, I bet that dick is big.
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I'm like, I'm just, what are you talking about?
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Like, the way, the way that's literally happened, I'll be, like, crying, but, like, be wearing gray sweatpants while I'm crying.
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Not the point of the video, but they write something like that.
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Like, I get, so, it's really when it's something that's not, like, you know, like, Billy just walking around living his life.
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He's just, he's literally just, like, he's existing, and people are attacking in that way.
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But, like, if I'm to post, as I do sometimes on my not Olsen Chris account, if I'm to post, like, a thirst trap, like, sure.
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Within the first 10 minutes of the video being posted, or else it's going to all be over.
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Otherwise, I'm deleting it, and I'm never posting it again.
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But I think that's where it gets confusing, is people think, well, you've posted a thirst trap before.
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Or, like, or people think with women, they're like, well, yeah, you've posted a thirst trap before.
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Or, like, you've maybe, like, flirted with a guy at a bar before.
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I saw you make eye contact with a man the other day.
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You're telling me you don't want me to comment on your big titties when you walk outside?
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I saw you order coffee, and that barista was a man.
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And so that's why they think, like, oh, because it's happened before, you must, then the invitation is open.
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Also, babe, like, I bet, like, if you're DMing her on OnlyFans, I'm gonna, like, she's not actually answering you.
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Any of my friends who have an OnlyFans, I'm like, let me respond to those DMs for you.
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Right, and also, even with OnlyFans, if someone's, yeah, you're paying for it, so, and that's their job, to, like, respond in a certain way.
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There's no, there's, there's, there's a barrier.
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Because, because they don't want to be talking to you bad.
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So, like, speaking of the video that you brought up, that's the video we're going to talk about, go into the comments section.
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For those of you who don't know, what we like to do here is we bring videos here from TikTok specifically, and we rip them to shreds, and we get into the comments, right?
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So, the comments on this video about the, oh, also, what I was going to say before I get into the comments is the man being like, don't objectify me, and then being like, just kidding, you can, you can objectify me.
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It kind of opens up this other channel where they're like, well, if women dress like that, then that means I can objectify them.
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Right, because, like, initially he's saying, like, don't objectify me as a man.
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And I'm like, yeah, like, yeah, exactly speak on it.
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But then, but then when he, like, literally just goes back on it, then it's saying, like, it's kind of making fun of whenever a woman is like, yeah, so you shouldn't do that.
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If a guy was running down the West Side Highway and was like, these hot bitches keep running past me.
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It's like a different register starts, like, coming out and my brain starts.
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But, like, then if a guy was doing that, yeah, it wouldn't be, it would be a little, like, predatory.
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And that's, like, some of the comments on here are also, like, kind of, they're steering into that skid of, like, making fun of women who complain about this.
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So, like, the first one says, not just a victim, but a survivor.
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That man has never been through anything in his life.
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Apparently, none of us have ever understood dark humor.
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I guess jokes about assaults should be much funnier than they are.
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My vagina makes it, I'm incapable of understanding.
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Me as a gay as well, I've never understood a dark joke in my life.
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It's just like, we just keep getting knocked down.
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You guys need all the support you can get, apparently.
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This next one says, if you're running without a shirt, you're obviously asking for it.
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Like, yeah, once again, it's kind of staring into a skid.
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It's, it's, it's really, I'm, I'm not much of a, I actually, I do comment like a fair
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I'm starting to figure out I can't go as wild as I used to.
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Because sometimes I'll be writing like the most wild shit and people are all, girl, what
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But my thought for these, these guys writing the comments, I'm like, were you like
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Like, did you take like 10 or 15 minutes to think about what you want to say?
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Did you go on like the notes app of your computer and like write down a few sentences?
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If you're running without a shirt, you're asking for it.
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Which is, that's the, I'm like, what is the deal with trying to get a viral comment?
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So it's going to be like, are you the person who wrote that comment?
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Wait, you're the one who wrote not just a victim, but a survivor?
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Like, come up to you at Disneyland, be like, you're the one.
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I'll just like put the comment in the, in the caption or something like that.
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This next one says, if a male did that, then they would, then they would be toast.
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Let your mom pick it up because I don't think you should be talking on the phone right now.
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And this last one says, that's how women feel, which is, I mean, I, I think that's
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Like it's like, yeah, that's kind of, it's almost like you run so far past the point.
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Like you're trying to be funny, but you, you end up in the spot that we were all at initially.
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We've, we've gone all the way around in a circle.
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I think that's kind of like, it's something it's called like the horseshoe effect or something.
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Whenever you go so far on one side, you end up getting like close back to the center.
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Like, like, yeah, that it is, it is how women feel.
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It's just like, even when I think about when I'm like hanging out with some of my girlfriends
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like in New York or in LA, if I'm to like go home at the end of the night, I'm just like,
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Like we're going to, but if I have to like think about my friend walking home at night
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Cause like, yes, like if I were to get like on the rare case, I would get cat called on
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Um, first of all, it would probably make for a great content moment because I would be
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Um, but yeah, I would literally be like, I'm so starved.
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Um, but, uh, but for like, for the girlfriends, like you really have to make, make sure they're
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going to be okay walking down that West side highway, walking home, you know?
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It's like a completely different, totally different game.
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So it is like the objectification of men and women.
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Like it is a little, it's, it's different in a way.
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The other is just, it's creepy and weird and appropriate.
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It's all inappropriate, but one could lead to you being murdered.
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Again, again, like as we, cause I, as I'm sure you do too, you like hear the comments,
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um, back in your head after you say something, you're like, I know what you guys are going
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Again, I know, I'm sure there have been moments when a man has been walking home and they felt
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unsafe or something and like women can be stalkers towards men as well.
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But it's just like the percentage of times that that happens for men versus women.
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Though I did see a take once that like, uh, someone was saying like men can't be sexually
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assaulted because it, that's an old, that only happens.
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It's just like, we have to be considering what the, what the, the volume is at hand.
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Like to say that women are superior to men in a patriarchal society is just not true.
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So to act like the interactions are the same is just not true.
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Women are constantly kidnapped, harassed and murdered when they're walking alone at night.
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Like the odds, like you said, of being a man are far less.
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But does that mean it's anywhere near as common?
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It could be bad for both, but one could be infinitely worse.
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The amount of times like I've walked home with a friend or something.
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And she's been like, I, like I usually get cat called so much, but the difference of when
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I'm walking with a guy or I feel like I saw a story once where like a girl got cat, cat
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called and she was walking with a guy and then the guy apologized to the man who she was
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He like cat called her and then was like, Oh, sorry, bro.
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I mean like the respect only, only goes to the man or something like, and the fact that
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they won't do it because of a man is again, a whole nother issue.
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Once again, like, yeah, like let's just hear the way these things work.
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And I've talked about this before, but it's like this, it's kind of in the same vein as
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like when men who really, really hate me want to write terrible shit about me, whether they
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send it to me personally or put it on the internet, when they find out I have a boyfriend,
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if they go and message him, it's never bad about him.
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They just want to tell him how much they hate me, but they're like, but you look so good.
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They're like, you honestly, like honestly, that's, is that a gay man?
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Like it's like, it almost goes to a point where it's like, well, if you ever, I don't
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If you're ever single, like bro, maybe we can lift together or some shit.
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Maybe like we, or kiss, but like it's up to you.
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It's a, it's a tech, those pushups, like the couple.
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Right, but are your DMs or your message requests worse than your public comments or would you
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say the public shit is worse than the private stuff?
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It depends on the platform because on TikTok, I would say the comments are worse, but no,
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I think on Instagram because it's a message request on Instagram, like they could say literally
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They say the most vile shit to me on Instagram.
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Right, and they, because they think no one's going to see it.
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Yeah, a lot of the time they don't even think you're going to see it.
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They're like, they're like, I'm just going to say this shit and I don't give up.
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Oh, the amount of times I've posted one, because I never blur out names ever.
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Yeah, I said, you want to be the star in my circus?
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I'm going to send you the shoes and nose priority mail.
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Some dude messaged, he messaged it to my boyfriend.
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Yeah, then I tweeted it and I put a picture of what he looked like and I made fun of what
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he looked like and he deleted his whole Instagram.
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But before that, he messaged me and said, can you please take that down?
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I work at a school and my school's going to be like, sorry, bitch.
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You worked at a school, so why did you do it in the first place?
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Wow, thank God you're in that kind of space with children.
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But also the way people can like, even if you didn't post that shit, if you just posted
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like his name, people would find everything immediately.
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One time this dude, one time this dude purposely tagged, I'm sure you saw it because I made
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a TikTok about it, but he literally tagged me in his Instagram story, unprovoked.
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I thought you wanted, you didn't want the repost?
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And literally, someone tagged me in a comment, and they were like, I figured it out.
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His girlfriend of three years, they broke up, and now she's with a new guy, and he's
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in much better shape and much more handsome, and today's her birthday, and today's her
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birthday, so she's celebrating, and that's why he's being a f***ing painter.
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And then he was like, what does that have to do with anything?
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The way they can't even lie, like if she aired my shit out like that, I would lie so hard.
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There's no way I didn't even know when his birthday was.
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I would have lied so he can't lie, so he was like, what does that have to do with anything?
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And listen, I'm like, I will go into, I'm a shameless detective as well.
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There have been times you've posted men, and I'm like, oh, let me find out everything about
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And it's so funny to me, because usually if you post someone, they'll immediately go
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private or delete their every account they ever have on social media.
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But what's so funny to me is the guys that keep their accounts open and are like, I don't
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A photo on Instagram will have like 12 likes and like 3,000 comments.
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Just being like, what are you still doing here?
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Like when they try to double down, like they're like, I'm not going to take it back.
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I always say my favorite stage is the, it's like this five stages.
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Like they're like, this is exactly what I wanted to happen.
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I got, I got, I got what I wanted to happen and you get yours too.
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Like it goes from that and then it ends with, I just don't know why she would ever do this
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You would think, you would think you would realize that before you tagged me in the video
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It's always so interesting how quickly they understand victim, victims.
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They literally, they're quick, they're so quickly like, I stand with victims.
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They've gone all the way, they're so, they're so bold and everything.
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And then immediately about, about stuff that would be like anti-victims or be like, fuck
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women who just like try to take down men and all this shit.
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And then they become one and they're like, I just like didn't.
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I told someone once, I'm like, you know what that's called?
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They're like, you guys just constantly make yourself victims.
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The poor, I mean, it's just like, if they can treat you, a big personality on the internet
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like that, imagine how they're treating like the fucking women in their life.
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I'm just saying, and that's why I almost said, see, that's the difference between me and other
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So what makes you think I'm not going to put it on a billboard, on Sunset Billboard?
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That's why I said a lot of them, a lot of creators can't do that because their brand
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There have been times when, like, there was another, there's, there are people who stay
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in my, I have a few, like, of those type fans who love staying in my DMs and just saying
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the worst things to every, and they follow me fully.
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I click on the account and it says follow back.
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You want to continue seeing this kind of stuff.
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And I remember there was one time I made a full video, because there was one guy who
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had been DMing me the shitty stuff for over a year.
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He would send all of it, unsend it after a few months, and then send a dick pic.
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He's consistently being, but also literally in love with me and wanting me to, like,
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Like, he wants me to, he's like, okay, the hate didn't work.
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And so I made, like, a full-ass video about him, about, like, dating things.
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Being like, this is, he sent his first hate message here.
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And then I swiped out of the app and unposted it because I was like, I will not be giving
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Because it's, but it's sometimes, it's like, you need, these men need the smoke.
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For me, it's like, whenever I choose to do that about men who intentionally most hate
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When it's men who think I'm never going to see it.
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When men who purposely do it because I know they want me to see it, that's different.
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Like, there's, if someone, like, sends, like, a one-off DM of something really, like, just
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really mean, sometimes I'll respond to it and then they'll leave it on read or be like,
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or make a joke back, like, oh, ha, ha, ha, ha, yeah, LOL, LOL.
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Yeah, or, like, a hate comment and I respond to it and then they suddenly make a joke.
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You were just going to be, yeah, you were just going to be a dick.
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But it's the ones who want, who really want you to say some shit that I'm like.
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That's what I'm like, you got to starve it out.
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Well, also that guy that was sending, that's also a form of objectification, doing that
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Well, let's like, I mean, and that, speak on it.
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Because, because we, like, people don't, like, sending a photo like that.
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Like, if you were, if I were walking down the street and some guy was just like, dick.
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You're, I would be like, I would be like, oh my God.
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And that's, but people think because you're doing it behind a screen.
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I, even, even if, if, if it's, like, someone you know, I would, I would urge you to maybe
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Let's make sure everyone's cool and on board with it.
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Nothing wrong with sending pics unless they didn't ask for it.
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Unless, unless you're Chris and that crazy guy.
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I could not even, could not even tell you his name.
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So, for this next video, we're going to talk about men objectifying women.
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So, I always like to describe the video as Chris did originally.
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So, in this video, a man is basically, he has a bunch of pictures, green screened in the
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He's talking about how much he, like, loves her and, like, thinks she's really hot, essentially.
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And then, when they show pictures of her from behind, she's considered flat, like, her ass
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Can we also talk about how it was a young, a young woman in the video?
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It was giving, like, 45 going on 60, especially.
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That, so, and, and that's the, that's the kind of thing where we're really getting predatory
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It's also, like, that's, that's what I'm saying, like, the point of his video, too,
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was talking about how she, like, doesn't have a butt or something like that.
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Why do men feel the need to communicate things ever?
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Like, why, like, if there's something I don't like, I don't talk about it.
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But, but for some reason, a hater loves to talk about what they f***ing hate.
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Like, yeah, they keep it top of mind all the time.
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It sounds like you're in love and you're obsessed.
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There's a really thin line between love and hate.
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At some point, they're, they're walking on eggshells.
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I feel like it was a line in the, um, hit show Desperate Housewives, if we remember from
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years ago, um, that was like the opposite of love isn't hate.
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And that's truly, I, this is so off topic, but not really.
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I've, when people have asked me for like relationship advice, first of all, I'm no expert, but like
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When they ask me about that, they're like, how do you know when it's over?
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And I always say, no, it's when you don't want to fight anymore.
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It's, it's the complete indifference towards it.
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Like, you just have no desire to either like even yell at each other.
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It's just like fighting in a relationship that I think the connotation can be rough because
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there's so many different kinds of fights, but like an argument in a relationship, if
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done productively is actually really good for a relationship.
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You, you have to have arguments and relationships to, to like communicate well and figure out what
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each one of you needs and likes and a partner, like become a better partner.
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It is when you give up, but like people, people always ask me for relationship advice
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And I'm like, babes, clearly it didn't work out.
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Shouldn't I be the one asking you like what we should be doing?
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Like I, I can, I know how to go through a breakup and not die at this point, you know,
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You just start like going on two hour road trips to nowhere.
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Um, but yeah, it's like, I, it's so funny because sometimes when you have a platform,
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people kind of do immediately put you on a higher level of things, which I really appreciate.
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And it's like, yeah, we, we got these platforms for maybe having a little bit more, not, not,
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not me having a little bit more knowledge about something, but like, you know, speaking
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on things in a different way or having a uniqueness.
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So it makes sense that people would come to you or, or ask me about advice about things.
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But at the end of the day, like we, we're in this boat together, girl.
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Like we're just, I'm just as, I'm just as dumb.
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I'm probably dumber than most of you watching this right now.
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But like, I could learn a lot from what everyone else has to say to me.
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But like, when it, like, especially with this guy, the, the attraction is so like almost
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feral that they feel entitled to like an opinion.
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Like they get to comment on your body or, and that's why sometimes when dudes are like,
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oh, you do this body shame and return to body shaming.
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If you really, if you go all the way back, I've never once addressed body shaming.
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All I've ever talked about is the very specific facets of bigotry.
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It doesn't make me a hypocrite because I never said I wasn't going to be mean to you.
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Like, because he's now talking about like, he's clearly showing that he has a type.
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You will be out here on social media spouting your type.
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Babe, actually, no one gives a f*** what your type is.
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It's crazy because you know who really doesn't care?
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Like you said to some of the comments on your like Vegas things.
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Once you get on the red carpet, let's talk about it.
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Like, what's your, wait, what's your fashion inspo?
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Because it seems like you've been wearing a lot of that.
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But even in this video, too, I think the whole video itself was green screened by a girl who
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was basically saying like, this is a terrible trend.
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Because men were using the sound to basically show women they were initially attracted to and then
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show assets that they have that they're like, yuck.
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But I always comment on looks because it's never going to not be funny when you're ugly
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That's the truest form of humor to me because it's like the self-awareness.
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Well, some of these men really think they're hot.
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And then if you comment on what they look like, like, like I do, like, I'm like, you're one
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Then they'll go, listen, I know I'm not perfect.
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It's also, it's always, it's always the fitness bro that thinks he's hot, but turns the like
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sharpness on his photos on Instagram up to 2000.
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And like his hair is like covering his face and he's like.
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And it's like, God, you really are close to the Lord with how much you talk about women.
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Clearly the teachings of the Lord have, have really penetrated that tiny pea brain.
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They said, it's actually one of the first lines.
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It's the Instagram bio to end all Instagram bios.
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So the comments on this is like, I understand where you're coming from, but girls talk about
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Like basically shitting on the girl who green screened the video.
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Cause she was saying, this is a terrible trend.
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And this man is saying, I understand where you're coming from, but girls talk about us as well.
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But listen, girls talk about you when they've been provoked.
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Like the only time women make fun of what other dudes look like is when they're being
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Like, and then, or if they're making a joke and in which case men do it the same too.
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If we were in a culture where like no one was doing any of that, sure, sure.
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Like, yeah, the, the, the one or two times that it's ever, a woman has ever objectified
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Well, at any time a girl does it, all of a sudden that moral compass points due north.
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And so this is actually the first time I'm coming in contact with objectification and
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I can't believe you are introducing it to me in this way.
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And how dare you bring it up to me in this way.
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It's just like, yeah, there are times when I, when a woman has made a man uncomfortable.
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Again, it goes back to everything that we've said before.
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Like I'll use them and just talk about them non, nonstop.
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Because it'll be like, it'll be like a short King.
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It'll be a short King who's maybe felt insecure because a girl was like, listen, I like a
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And so because of that, he has then objectified women for the rest of his life.
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I can't get into that, but that's, but then he will also be the first person to be like,
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well, it's because it's because one time in the fifth grade, Mallory called me short
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and it's like, great, but that actually didn't give you a golden ticket to then objectify
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To make fun of like fat people for the rest of your life.
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So it doesn't, it turns out it doesn't feel very good.
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At the end of the day, you're best friends with these men, you know, like you're helping
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It's like you are holding all of their hands to the light.
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And you're looking pretty rough and it is in hell.
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It looks like your hair has been burned all off.
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And by that, I mean, I get to show people that you're in hell and then I shut the door
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You stayed on there because you took yourself there.
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And this next comment says, oh, wait, aren't you the same girl?
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If you're short, if you're a short dude, right, and you don't make that your entire personality,
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There was a time in my life when I was like, yeah, I always want like there were there was
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not always, but there was a time in my life when I was like, I think my type is someone
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But then I found myself like dating people of literally all heights.
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Because like at the end of the day, you realize, oh, it actually doesn't matter.
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It doesn't matter unless you're unless you're going to hammer home the fact that you're
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No one talks about dudes being short more than short dudes who hate being short.
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Like you are the ones who talk about it all the time.
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Bring it like you'll never let me forget no matter how hard I try.
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There are some like if you think about this, like you talk to dudes who are short, don't
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It takes a long time for you to realize like, oh, they're not very tall.
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But like it's not something you're like, ha ha, loser.
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Because it's not their entire personality because they don't care because they're not
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And then that goes to the point of that you were saying earlier about how like women
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will frequently talk if you ask what their type is.
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They're not going to go like, yes, maybe down like at the very end of the list is like,
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But let's talk about Selling Sunset for a second.
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I didn't watch, but I think I know what you're going to talk about.
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But listen, Chris Shell at one point in the show says, I had a height thing for a while.
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But then she dated Jason, who's much shorter than her, because women are going to go for the personality.
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Because as long as this person is a good person, that's really all that matters.
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Like I'm someone who hated being tall for a long time.
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Like that's like the least of my worries at that point.
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And are you going to like, have you ever made that your whole personality?
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You've not seen like the other half of my body in these videos, but it's probably because
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The types that like women will talk about and how it goes for personality first, that's
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why it can sometimes be like a dumpster fire in the gay community because that is all men.
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Like I'm like, I'm like, here we are talking about how men can be the worst and I am a man
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If anything, if anything that makes you a veteran, you know better than anybody.
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Because it's like, I'm a kind of guy who I will talk about personality first, but I'm
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also very aware that in the gay community, like so much centers around looks.
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There is such like a toxic look in the gay community because I mean, if you think about
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like older gay men too, they are always looking good.
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You're always looking like you, you are still snatched, you're killing it.
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And I'm like, but does that come from the fact that we, you have been like working your
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And like this next comment says double standards.
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That was like the only supportive one of the girl's video.
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But I mean, it's, it's just the unsolicited commentary on other people's bodies, unnecessary
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And it's always men, but like when it comes to objectifying, I can't forget to mention
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I made videos once about how I deal with objectification, like in public.
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Cause like back in the day I used to be a screamer.
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Like I used to be someone like, cause I had no fear when I was younger.
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So you would just do what you were, you're doing on TikTok now.
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Cause I, you know, cause I had no community guidelines in real life.
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Like if someone was objectifying me or like a friend of mine or anything like that.
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Uh, and then if you're receptive to it, they take that wrong too.
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Anytime I talk to women and they, we, we talk about this, I give them my tips.
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Sometimes they're like, that's exactly what I wanted to do.
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Uh, so when they, let's say they say some, some bullshit, like you're by yourself.
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And then they're going to go, you, you, I said you have some nice titties.
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Once you say it, the second, most of the time they bitch out after two.
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Once you hit three, they're going to be like, nevermind.
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They're going to be, and then if they say, then let's say they doubled down.
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So that's my, that's literally, I'm telling you, they feel so, the look on their face is
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When you do it, they're literally like, like they lose all their stamina, all their, like
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Well, there's, there's a video of a girl like walking around the streets of New York
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and she replies, like encouraging all of the, like, she'll be like, oh my God, really?
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They're like, why are you talking to me weirdo?
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And even then there's an off, there's a chance that someone might be like, yeah.
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Like one time, the very first time I ever did it, I was like, that's what I thought you
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Like they literally, one time I had a dude do it and he literally sped off.
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It's exactly like the men who you're responding to.
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It's like, no, double down on what you just said.
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So that's why I literally have done that countless times.
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Because then the third time you say it, they're going to be like, okay, she definitely heard
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So the antithesis of catcalling that I've experienced is men saying the gay F word to me in public.
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And there have been times when like someone will say it driving by in their car and I'll
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And, and like I was, my, my friend and I were being loud on the streets of New York the other
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But I think that can also apply to that situation.
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And enjoy, like enjoy having everyone else here.
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It is so funny when they say stuff or like if, if a man catcalls you driving by in the
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I was just being silly and now I'm embarrassed.
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And there was a, I feel like there was a survey.
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There was a survey of like, uh, people asking women what their biggest fear was.
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People ask, people ask women what their biggest fear is.
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And it's like, uh, it's assault or like, or, or yeah.
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And then you literally just like the survey was finished.
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It's like women are terrified of life altering events.
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What makes them like become women's biggest fear.
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I think that's the only way you can do this business.
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There are videos where I know people are going to be like, Chris, there's something wrong
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And also, I'm like, I'm like, I find joy in the ridicule.
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I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I'm a mess as, as you are.
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That's like why you've connected with both of us is because you're like, oh, I'm a mess
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I would say like a little bit of an irrational fear.
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Um, I frequently will go to bed and just think that there's like a spite.
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I will, I will, I just have, I will allow myself to think that like one is going to find
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its way into my apartment and just be like waiting.
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The, the absolute dinosaurs that they're still dealing with.
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If I ever do go and I see one, I am never coming back.
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One of my friends, I did a summer program with a girl who grew up in Australia and she,
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Like one time I woke up and there was like a tarantula in my bed and I had to just like
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I was like, you're not, so you're not scared of spiders that like you're lying to me.
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I would immediately, I would hope my heart would burst in that moment and I wouldn't
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Clearly the spider needs this room more than I do.
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You don't know, but like, I have no problems being like, I, I don't like bugs.
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However, I think an irrational fear of mine is like, I just talked about this with my
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sister actually on my podcast with her, but we talked about, I don't like, this is
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so stupid, but I don't like when like people are bigger than they're supposed to be.
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And I mean, tall, like I'm talking tall, like I'm saying like giant things upset me.
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The best way to describe it is like, has anyone ever been at Disney?
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I don't want to be in a world where, where people are giant.
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In a sense that like, this is so hard to articulate.
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My family understands why I have this irrational fear of large things, like large people or mammals.
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So like, not like, you're not talking about like a tall king.
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If someone, if someone, if someone's had like peer.
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Like literally, it gets, it gets me goosebumps.
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This is the one I always give people and they're like, oh, okay.
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Because I, believe it or not, I talk about this a lot.
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Remember the part at the end where they're like all fighting each other.
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And then the girlfriend, like his blue girlfriend, she comes to the little, you know, he's like
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in that little pod and he's like in the machine.
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And you know how like something's attacking it and he's going to die?
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She crawls inside of it and she's holding him like this.
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But when I was a kid and I would have parties at Chuck.
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I would have parties at Chuck E. Cheese because the characters were so.
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Every time they came out I would start screaming and running the opposite direction.
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Like if someone came in here and they were like 30 feet tall.
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I saw Chewbacca for the first time at Disneyland.
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I said girl you know how I feel about big things.
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I had a full blown panic attack because it was too big.
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Even knowing that it's just like a regular person in there.
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I'm going to find the picture of me because my whole family's next to it and I'm on the
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That was the first time my boyfriend ever watched me like spin out.
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But you I feel like I feel like you because you have to hold that that stronghold on these
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men you're like I'm not going to let them see shit.
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I'm saying that was way before I had a platform.
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I think I was like 20 at the time but I don't know something about large mammals just.
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Like when you see whales and they're like huge.
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With those whale watching things where they're like they see a whale and then there's like
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I would say that like the open ocean is another big big fear.
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Like thinking about just like if I am left in the middle of no.
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Okay the part where he's just like sitting on the boat and then that giant whale comes
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I watched that and I said that's where it ends for me.
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I'm pretty terrified of like the like supernatural.
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There was a good time in my life where like every night before bed I was like.
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Except I am not a person who's going to set up a camera.
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And then I had this really irrational fear of cows for a while.
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You know the way to get over this is like exposure therapy.
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So here's me trying to give the advice when it's not something I'm willing to take.
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I'm just scared of the internet a lot of the time.
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Like when I found out that when you order at Starbucks they can see you.
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I literally found that out because one time I was in a Starbucks drive-thru and I was ordering
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and I was trying to get my mask out of my purse.
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I'm ordering trying to put the mask on my face.
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And I'm trying to put my mask on my face and it won't go on.
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And then I found out they could see me because then when I came to the window, none of them
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could really look at me and they were all laughing.
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And people in my comments were like, yeah, we can see you.
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The fact that I'll wake up in the middle of the night thinking about that.
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You were trying to put like the leg holes over your ears?
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Yeah, I literally was putting one side on my ear.
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And it wouldn't stick because I was still trying to order.
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Mind you, I'm ordering all this coffee for my family.
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So I'm like, no, that's a venti iced Americano with oat milk, no sugar.
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Like I'm literally doing that, like trying to remember it.
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I can just imagine them all like people are starting to gather around the monitor.
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No one even start with me and try to say I put dirty chonies in my eye.
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And so what did going to the beach have to do with me?
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That's why I was like, I was just going to the beach.
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But then I already had like a little bralette with me.
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So then if you sit in a wet bathing suit, you get a UTI.
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So I was literally like, oh, I'll just bring underwear.
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And I put them in my purse so I didn't have to pack a bag.
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So you were trying, you were really trying to be productive in this moment.
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I was trying to be prepared and that's what I get.
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They repay me by making me put period panties on my face.
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Something about astrology plays into all of this.
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And then it was the Cancer Moon putting the underwear on my face.
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And then it was my Sagittarius rising getting angry at everyone like it was anyone's fault on my own.
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Oh my God, it really throws, it all comes together.
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And my mask was like same kind of material a little bit.
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We went off the rails a little, but you know what?
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The fact that you can't look at me the same anymore.
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Anyways, that being said, thank you so much for coming.
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I feel like a lot has changed since I first walked through the doors.
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I feel like we connected on a different level now.
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Thank you for having me on the comment section.
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And everyone, well, make sure, where can everybody find you?
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