The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - YOU’RE NOT THE NEXT BILLIONAIRE, DAVID ｜ Drew Afualo & E.R. Fightmaster ｜ THE COMMENT SECTION EP 77

00:00:00.000 I've had this argument with men, obviously, because they love a billionaire, like terrible men.

00:00:05.220 Oh, they love a billionaire.

00:00:06.680 They think they're next.

00:00:07.880 Yeah, they're like, that's me. 0.99

00:00:09.840 I'm not going to talk shit on Elon because I am the next Elon. 0.97

00:00:13.760 No, you're not. 0.98

00:00:14.800 Well, you know, I mean, real recognize real.

00:00:17.180 So like I get his mindset because I'm also up there with him.

00:00:20.140 I'm in the I'm in the lab with him.

00:00:21.720 I'm also an abuser. 0.89

00:00:23.920 I'm also an awful person.

00:00:30.000 Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring

00:00:34.420 me, your favorite. 0.74

00:00:35.340 Once again, nobody gives a shit about me ever anymore, ever since Spotify bought me. 0.88

00:00:39.320 You guys don't care about me anymore. 0.94

00:00:41.400 Anyways, I'll save that for my therapist.

00:00:43.260 On to the amazing guest of today.

00:00:45.780 It's the one, the only, the iconic, the legendary ER fight master.

00:00:51.260 Thank you.

00:00:52.160 Thank you so much for being here.

00:00:53.560 Thank you.

00:00:54.100 I'm honored.

00:00:54.460 I want to say I've always looked at those nails, the nails that you have.

00:00:59.040 Period.

00:00:59.240 And I've been like, how do they work?

00:01:00.920 Like, how do you use them?

00:01:01.840 And then I just saw Megan Thee Stallion cooking with them.

00:01:06.040 Oh, yeah.

00:01:06.700 And it's like no part of the food touched her actual flesh.

00:01:10.580 I was like, oh, they're for some extension of me.

00:01:13.880 Yeah.

00:01:14.280 They're tongs.

00:01:15.000 They're tongs.

00:01:15.700 They are.

00:01:16.260 And I didn't realize that.

00:01:17.700 A Swiss army knife, if you will.

00:01:19.520 I thought it was some kind of like pillow princess of life stuff.

00:01:22.720 I can't hold anything, but actually you can hold stuff way better.

00:01:26.120 I've adapted.

00:01:26.820 I've adapted to my environment.

00:01:28.440 Yeah.

00:01:29.560 You know what's funny is I've never had long nails ever growing up because I played sports.

00:01:35.840 So like you can't have nails at all.

00:01:38.080 And so I think like me being like a pick me, I was like, that's for girls. 0.99

00:01:43.640 That's for girly girls. 0.99

00:01:44.620 That's not like me.

00:01:45.240 And then I remember I think like my sophomore year of college, one of my best friends was like telling me that she wanted to go get acrylics.

00:01:53.320 And I was like, well, I just like don't know like if I could do anything with them and blah, blah, blah.

00:01:57.160 And she was like, I like them.

00:01:59.320 And she like really challenged my like, I was like, OK, same.

00:02:04.120 Fine.

00:02:04.640 Yeah.

00:02:04.880 OK, as well.

00:02:05.540 Yeah.

00:02:05.700 I mean, you didn't let me finish.

00:02:07.780 Now I do is what I was going to say. 0.97

00:02:10.640 And so we went to the nail salon and I was like so fucking broke. 0.73

00:02:14.040 And her dad actually paid for us all to get our nails done, including acrylics, which is so nice. 0.60

00:02:18.740 Thanks, Darren.

00:02:20.080 If you ever watch this.

00:02:21.380 Yeah, I know Darren's a big fan of the show.

00:02:23.500 He hasn't heard from me in like seven years.

00:02:26.100 Anyways, he paid for them.

00:02:27.440 And when I got them, I remember being like, this is my new personality.

00:02:31.760 I've adopted it.

00:02:32.640 One of the most like femme things I've ever heard is that the first time you got acrylics, it was from somebody else's dad.

00:02:42.140 It's the most heterosexual thing I've ever said.

00:02:46.120 I'm obsessed with women. 0.91

00:02:47.500 I'm obsessed.

00:02:48.260 One of the ways that I know that I am non-binary is because when women do things, I'm like, what? 1.00

00:02:55.160 It's like when men do things, I'm like, ugh. 0.94

00:02:57.440 When you're at the zoo and you see like gorillas petting each other's hair and you're like, that is so cute.

00:03:02.180 That's wild.

00:03:02.980 I love that. 1.00

00:03:03.400 I love those little fuckers. 1.00

00:03:04.880 And that's how I feel about all women. 1.00

00:03:06.960 And then men, I'm like, I have a really bad like, ugh.

00:03:11.700 You and me both.

00:03:12.540 Yeah.

00:03:12.900 We have that in common.

00:03:13.660 And people are like, where are you?

00:03:15.560 I'm like, I'm right in the middle watching both, having a different experience.

00:03:19.300 That's what's happening.

00:03:19.900 Having a horrifying one and then a very, very cute and like admirable one.

00:03:24.880 Yes.

00:03:25.500 I feel that.

00:03:26.100 You're an icon and a legend.

00:03:28.480 I'm so honored to have you.

00:03:29.960 For those of you who aren't familiar, ER is one of the first non-binary people to be in many different forms of media.

00:03:37.000 Very important, big forms of media.

00:03:39.240 But we can't talk about that right now.

00:03:41.100 And we won't.

00:03:41.700 Because we are on a S-T-R-I-K-E.

00:03:45.200 And I spelled it that slowly because I forgot how to spell it.

00:03:47.460 As you're spelling, you're like, okay, yeah, that sounds right.

00:03:53.400 I'm off topic, but not really.

00:03:55.020 I'm in the middle of writing a book right now.

00:03:57.180 Oh, rad.

00:03:57.800 Okay.

00:03:58.160 The way I had to like re-teach myself how to like write sentences is embarrassing.

00:04:04.480 The way I had to re-download Microsoft Word.

00:04:07.240 Like I haven't had that program on my computer in years.

00:04:09.680 So I've been writing like some essays for fun, you know, and very gay. 0.99

00:04:17.320 That's the gay agenda. 1.00

00:04:18.380 That's the gay agenda is to get you to write for fun. 1.00

00:04:21.120 And I've been using pages, which funny enough. 0.91

00:04:24.220 Oh, I didn't even think about pages.

00:04:25.900 Don't think about pages.

00:04:27.320 Don't think about pages because if you send pages to any other computer, it gives it a virus.

00:04:31.820 Really?

00:04:32.460 Like pages, like they do not work.

00:04:33.800 Like you can copy and paste from pages and put it in a Word document and your laptop will kill itself.

00:04:38.740 It's just, it explodes.

00:04:41.520 It turns all the words to hieroglyphics.

00:04:43.360 There's like words off the screen now.

00:04:45.260 Yeah. 0.99

00:04:45.520 It's like full ass not supposed to work. 0.99

00:04:47.860 Oh, okay. 0.99

00:04:48.920 Okay, got it.

00:04:49.700 I think it had to be a, Word tried to make pages.

00:04:53.620 You know what I mean?

00:04:53.940 Word was like, you think you can replace us?

00:04:56.840 You think you could do better than Word?

00:04:58.040 I'd like to see you try.

00:04:59.740 Then you use pages and you're like, oh, guess I have to re-download Word.

00:05:02.700 And then when you re-download it, Word's like, and here you are crawling back.

00:05:06.660 Come on back.

00:05:07.380 Thought you found something better?

00:05:08.560 Here's Clippy.

00:05:10.720 Grass is always greener, isn't it?

00:05:13.080 That's crazy.

00:05:14.560 Well, I like, yeah, I had to re-download Word, which you have to pay for it. 0.88

00:05:19.140 Sick.

00:05:19.940 Did anyone else remember that? 0.93

00:05:21.400 I didn't.

00:05:22.340 The way I was just like using things that my mom bought and then that harsh like sting of adulthood.

00:05:28.620 Like when I found out, I moved into my first house ever was in college.

00:05:32.320 Like when I moved off campus for the first time.

00:05:34.340 I'm like in my big girl house with my best friend and we move in and I'm like, I have to buy curtains.

00:05:40.740 You're telling me the house doesn't come with curtains, let alone curtain rings.

00:05:44.400 Where does it end?

00:05:46.620 Where's the rod?

00:05:48.460 Where's the rod?

00:05:49.220 The way I'm like in a fishbowl if I don't buy sheets for the windows is crazy.

00:05:54.600 Absolutely sick that everything's not free for us.

00:05:58.400 I'm simply a teenage girl and you want me to buy curtain rings.

00:06:02.340 The fact that I was like, there's no bath mat.

00:06:04.440 Like those don't just come with the house.

00:06:06.000 The way my mom just like buys them and puts them places and I'm like, well, clearly that's part of the infrastructure.

00:06:11.360 I'm sorry.

00:06:11.800 And it costs like millions of dollars to survive.

00:06:14.740 Like what is going on?

00:06:16.720 What is even the point?

00:06:17.720 What is? 0.99

00:06:18.420 Capitalism was whooping my ass when I moved out on my own. 0.99

00:06:21.420 Yes, yes, yes. 0.99

00:06:22.200 I was like, oh man, the way things don't come with the house is just unbelievable.

00:06:25.640 And you're buying the cheapest stuff you possibly can.

00:06:28.100 So you're buying the bath mat, but it's got like, it's because you bought it for $19.

00:06:32.440 It's metal underneath and it slides.

00:06:35.480 So I almost break my neck every time I get out of the shower.

00:06:38.000 I bought sheets.

00:06:39.420 I saw sheets and I lived in Hawaii at the time and everything is so expensive already in Hawaii.

00:06:44.180 So like I go and I look at curtains and I'm like $20 not spending that.

00:06:48.820 And then I bought some for like nine bucks.

00:06:51.520 The way they were paper thin, I might as well have just taken them off.

00:06:54.800 You could see through them.

00:06:55.640 The sun like lights them on fire.

00:06:58.460 The sun is like highlighting me almost.

00:07:01.060 It's almost like it's making it like widescreen.

00:07:03.600 You could look at my window.

00:07:04.240 It brought the sun closer.

00:07:05.920 Yeah.

00:07:06.500 It expanded my window.

00:07:08.320 I'm like, there's no point.

00:07:09.220 But I was being cheap.

00:07:10.340 So I'm like, I'm buying $9 cartons.

00:07:11.960 I don't care.

00:07:12.380 To live with any dignity is so expensive.

00:07:17.320 It's so messed up.

00:07:18.700 It is.

00:07:19.480 It truly is. 1.00

00:07:20.300 But that's why for the S-T-R-I-K-E, when that big dumb asshole said that thing about starving out writers and actors. 1.00

00:07:30.600 It's truly like villain shit. 1.00

00:07:33.420 Villain shit. 1.00

00:07:33.480 Villain shit. 1.00

00:07:33.800 Like actually. 1.00

00:07:35.100 And we'll never forget it.

00:07:36.320 And there's no forgiveness here.

00:07:37.780 And the thing that that guy doesn't know about being starved out is that like actually all creatives, we are poor.

00:07:45.600 Like we've been poor.

00:07:46.560 And that's like one of the reasons that we're successful now.

00:07:48.860 It's like you do so much work when you're an artist for free.

00:07:55.200 And then one day you start getting paid for it and you're like, oh, I didn't know that was going to happen for me.

00:08:00.580 Yeah.

00:08:01.020 You know what I mean?

00:08:01.420 So we're like, we're used to it.

00:08:02.800 Like you can't starve us out.

00:08:03.740 That's what I was going to say.

00:08:04.580 I'm like, who do you think can wait each other out longer?

00:08:07.160 Because they've been living off two nickels and a dime for years.

00:08:10.620 Ten plus years, in fact.

00:08:12.200 You'll run out of truly champagne on your yacht and you'll think about ending it all.

00:08:16.740 And you're like, take it back to the dock.

00:08:18.280 I can't do it today. 1.00

00:08:20.120 No, I'm going to shower without towels, bitch. 1.00

00:08:22.660 I'm going to air dry with no curtains in my house. 0.99

00:08:24.620 Oh, and I've done that.

00:08:26.660 I've done a paper towel dab.

00:08:29.480 I can tell you, someone who can live off a budget is someone who freelances or is a creative in the art space, entertainment space, literally at all.

00:08:39.880 They could live off crumbs forever.

00:08:42.380 It's so true. 0.84

00:08:43.300 Which is sad.

00:08:43.960 You asked me because I'm in two unions right now.

00:08:47.360 So I'm on double strike for those things.

00:08:50.920 And I've got projects in both of those spaces that I can't talk about at all that are so wonderful.

00:08:55.440 And so you asked me before we started recording if I was busy.

00:09:00.260 And the answer is yes, more than ever.

00:09:02.220 Because now I'm going to my other art spaces where I'm not in these unions and I'm like, you know, recording music and releasing an album and all this stuff.

00:09:09.160 But it's because we don't stop grinding.

00:09:12.680 Like artists have all of these things that we're constantly spinning these plates all the time because we can't stop.

00:09:17.780 Because you have to. 1.00

00:09:18.260 But this, you know, Disney villain ass bitch, literally Disney villain ass bitch. 1.00

00:09:24.720 Like an actual one. 1.00

00:09:26.300 And like metaphorically and literally.

00:09:29.180 He's got one plate and it's killing the poor.

00:09:31.820 No, true.

00:09:32.540 And he's like, you guys just, what else do you want?

00:09:35.640 My house?

00:09:36.320 Yeah.

00:09:36.960 He's like, you guys need anything?

00:09:38.240 You want a livable wage?

00:09:39.140 What's next?

00:09:40.280 What's next?

00:09:41.000 Where does it end?

00:09:41.540 Oh my God.

00:09:42.280 You need to be fed?

00:09:43.540 Fed and water?

00:09:44.740 That's crazy.

00:09:45.540 That's sick. 0.98

00:09:46.080 Little rats. 0.95

00:09:46.340 That's sick. 0.99

00:09:47.800 Greedy.

00:09:48.320 Now everyone's getting greedy.

00:09:49.640 Yeah.

00:09:50.080 What happens then?

00:09:51.040 I think the rich think that poor people are like houseplants.

00:09:54.900 You know what I mean?

00:09:55.780 They live off photosynthesis.

00:09:57.040 Yeah.

00:09:57.560 We're like taking in the sun and we're like, okay, I guess this will do.

00:10:01.660 They're like, what do you, you mean you can't just lay in the yard?

00:10:05.260 That's not enough for you?

00:10:06.880 After you mow it.

00:10:07.840 Yeah.

00:10:10.160 For free.

00:10:11.120 For me, that's, I think, too, what's crazy about that is like most freelancers and anyone

00:10:17.480 in the creative spaces have like mastered, like what you said, they've mastered the art

00:10:21.380 of pivoting.

00:10:22.600 Things change all the time.

00:10:24.020 Like the entertainment industry is one of the most fickle other than like sports, right?

00:10:28.520 So like we're kind of equals where like you are never guaranteed anything.

00:10:32.860 Like ever.

00:10:33.340 You have to like constantly be moving.

00:10:35.720 It's like, you know, they say like if sharks stop swimming, they'll die.

00:10:39.280 So even when they sleep, they're still swimming.

00:10:42.180 Yes.

00:10:42.460 That's, I truly believe that's how all creatives are because you have to learn to live off

00:10:47.300 nothing and truly do it for the love of it and the love of creating and being creative.

00:10:53.380 And only outsiders like, and I outside the craft think that you've ever made it because

00:10:59.100 when you're inside of it, you never feel like you've made it.

00:11:01.540 Like there are wins that you can have.

00:11:03.560 There are big moments, but the making it is everlasting because you never know if that

00:11:10.660 job you have right now, if you're going to get cut tomorrow, if your character is going

00:11:14.740 to die, if they don't have room for any more writers, if like, you know what I mean?

00:11:19.520 If the single flaps, like you never know when it's going to be the last one.

00:11:23.800 So you're always on alert.

00:11:26.060 Yeah.

00:11:26.280 And like walking on eggshells.

00:11:27.520 Yeah.

00:11:27.680 I think that's why I said constantly swimming and I feel like even for me, not to get like

00:11:32.360 existential and super kind of depressing, but like when I went to therapy, like when

00:11:36.260 I started going to therapy, part of the reason, like I wanted to go, like one of my goals

00:11:40.680 was to focus more on being present.

00:11:43.920 And I was telling my therapist that like, I am constantly thinking about the next thing

00:11:49.460 because I have to keep moving in order to keep making money.

00:11:52.320 And as you get bigger and you get more successful and that's great and you make money, hopefully

00:11:57.640 at some point you make money to sustain a lifestyle, like you start taking on more responsibilities.

00:12:02.920 So I start taking care of more people and I start, so there's some, the pressure builds

00:12:07.200 as you go higher because it's so uncertain.

00:12:10.380 Like you just can't, you can never be absolutely certain that you're going to be working a year

00:12:14.500 from now.

00:12:15.080 So you have to just constantly be, like you said, spinning plates and rolling balls in all different

00:12:20.140 directions.

00:12:20.820 Well, and it's, it's, when I talk to young artists like that are, that have questions

00:12:28.120 about, you know, making art or art industry or whatever, what it's like to work, the big

00:12:33.840 advice that I give now is in the time that you have off, you have to be doing stuff that

00:12:40.280 actually fills your cup because so many of us get lost in the sauce where we're like

00:12:45.080 working all the time, working all the time.

00:12:46.360 And then when we're not working, we're like, Oh God, Oh God, Oh God.

00:12:49.400 And it actually makes you so much less dynamic.

00:12:52.900 Truly.

00:12:53.380 Yeah.

00:12:53.680 You know what I mean?

00:12:54.120 Like it's so much harder to make art if the only thing that you're doing is making art.

00:12:57.980 Yeah.

00:12:58.140 I think that's, I've talked to my other creative friends about it, like whether they're

00:13:02.360 creators or artists or whatever it may be.

00:13:04.420 And that's, we've all kind of mutually agreed that when we get to that point, that's when

00:13:08.860 you experience burnout.

00:13:09.920 Yes.

00:13:10.320 Because you're just, you're constantly working, you're finding no joy in it.

00:13:13.540 Now it's just a chore because you're just, you have to do it.

00:13:16.300 You just, you see it as having to do it as opposed to loving doing it, which is why you

00:13:20.300 started in the first place.

00:13:21.420 And you kind of lose that allure, like that, that excitement that you feel about wanting

00:13:26.140 to be creative.

00:13:27.080 And like, for me, like I'm an internet jester. 0.99

00:13:29.400 So like, I just, I talk to my fucking self all the time. 0.93

00:13:32.340 And at some point, like I started, like, obviously I had like my big growth and I started doing 0.98

00:13:37.520 other things outside of social media.

00:13:40.380 But with social media, it started getting like burnout for me.

00:13:44.000 I started feeling stale almost.

00:13:45.400 Cause I'm like, okay, I don't want to hear myself talk anymore.

00:13:48.720 Like I'm just so exhausting, uh, exhausted with myself.

00:13:52.580 And that was exhausting.

00:13:53.480 Yeah.

00:13:53.660 I am exhausting.

00:13:54.740 I am.

00:13:55.160 It's okay.

00:13:55.540 We can all say it.

00:13:56.520 I mean, I mean, men can't say that, but I can't say that. 0.99

00:13:59.740 Shut up. 0.99

00:14:00.500 You can't say anything about talking. 1.00

00:14:02.180 Be quiet.

00:14:03.560 First.

00:14:04.300 Don't just don't.

00:14:06.980 That's okay.

00:14:07.500 You can adhere to that.

00:14:08.880 Uh, and I think that's when I really started thinking, okay, I got to start taking a step

00:14:13.980 back a little bit and kind of reframing how I see things.

00:14:17.060 Otherwise you just grow this like resentment towards it.

00:14:20.700 Absolutely.

00:14:21.240 Which feels like a champagne problem, especially when you succeed.

00:14:24.880 Like you're just like, this is nobody wants to hear me complain about this awesome job

00:14:28.760 in life.

00:14:30.540 Including myself.

00:14:31.620 They think, I think they want you to think it's a champagne problem.

00:14:34.980 Like the fact is like, we're still, when you talk about these CEOs that are talking

00:14:40.020 about starving us out.

00:14:41.140 Like that's a champagne problem is really looking at a group of thousands and thousands

00:14:46.480 of people and being like, ugh, paying you makes me want to self harm.

00:14:51.760 That's a champagne problem.

00:14:53.440 Us worrying about like, uh, I make art for myself and for other people because I'm helping

00:14:59.940 create a culture that I want to live in.

00:15:02.100 Yeah.

00:15:02.500 And sometimes I get tired and my heart's not in it is not a champagne problem.

00:15:06.980 That's like, well, thanks.

00:15:10.400 You pull off your mask and you're my therapist.

00:15:13.820 I just think it's so important to remind each other, like we are, we, as much as like

00:15:19.520 they, they'll call it like content creation.

00:15:22.000 Like, no, we're not creating content.

00:15:23.740 We're creating culture.

00:15:25.080 And that, that is, you can, obviously you can put a money value on it, but the value for

00:15:32.140 us is so much beyond money.

00:15:33.900 We just need money to live.

00:15:35.760 That's true. 0.88

00:15:36.220 And that's why it sucks that there are all these puppet masters trying to like convince

00:15:39.560 us that we're being greedy, but it's like, no, I'm, I'm literally giving you pieces of

00:15:43.060 me.

00:15:43.420 That's true.

00:15:44.120 And you're like, like everything I have, like literally everything I have to give.

00:15:49.080 Yeah.

00:15:49.280 Every, every time I go through a breakup or have, or go through a depressive episode, like

00:15:53.480 thinking about like, okay, how could I synthesize this feeling so I could present it to like

00:15:59.140 young queer kids is like, Hey, I experienced this too.

00:16:01.840 Like here's what I'm doing to take care of myself.

00:16:04.180 You know, like literally giving parts of yourself away.

00:16:06.460 And they're like $35 an hour. 1.00

00:16:08.140 Fuck you. 1.00

00:16:09.980 What? 1.00

00:16:10.700 What?

00:16:11.480 What?

00:16:12.800 Jesus.

00:16:13.400 What else?

00:16:13.920 Health care?

00:16:15.640 Where does it end?

00:16:16.780 Honestly.

00:16:17.440 Oh my God.

00:16:17.780 It's like, you want, you want to be able to live off your art.

00:16:21.960 I want to pay my rent.

00:16:25.360 That's crazy.

00:16:26.160 That'd be huge.

00:16:27.140 Now you're talking crazy.

00:16:28.280 Girl, just that's more than enough.

00:16:30.540 Honestly, basic room and board would be more than okay.

00:16:34.260 Oh God bless.

00:16:35.620 I can't even imagine.

00:16:36.440 In LA.

00:16:37.160 Yeah.

00:16:37.460 Yeah.

00:16:38.080 What a rare resource.

00:16:39.840 Yeah.

00:16:39.900 Actually now I'm being greedy.

00:16:42.180 Girl, yeah. 0.96

00:16:42.800 Just food for now.

00:16:43.820 Let's start there.

00:16:44.740 Start there.

00:16:45.440 Work up.

00:16:45.860 I think that's also too, that's a really good point about like creating culture and stuff

00:16:51.460 in the way that, well, that's, that's my whole point of why, why it doesn't make sense

00:16:54.740 to me, why that seems to be such a huge ask to ask for like livable wages.

00:16:59.460 Because there is no entertainment without creatives.

00:17:03.560 Like there is, there is nothing like the whole, I know they're talking about using AI or whatever.

00:17:08.560 That stuff doesn't make sense to me either because I'm like, you've seen, I've seen the

00:17:12.640 AI generated baby pictures and they're horrifying.

00:17:14.880 I can't even imagine trying to make a show with that.

00:17:17.500 Somehow blurry teeth every time.

00:17:19.000 And like toes for fingers.

00:17:20.180 Like I don't understand.

00:17:21.460 Like you're telling me they can create an entire show or movie.

00:17:24.600 I doubt it.

00:17:25.080 Yeah.

00:17:25.400 There's a dog that has like a Pepsi can for a paw in the background and you're like, no.

00:17:29.600 And they're like, see, like they didn't ask for more money.

00:17:32.740 AI didn't ask me for more money.

00:17:34.020 Pepsi dog didn't ask for more money.

00:17:36.280 He's just happy to be here.

00:17:37.560 And he has a disability.

00:17:38.440 Oh, and, and I love the AI argument because they're like, see, we can make anything.

00:17:45.580 And you're like, but AI, they're, they're taking the intelligence that they're collecting

00:17:51.980 is ours.

00:17:54.020 That's humans.

00:17:54.940 Yeah.

00:17:55.440 It's from human beings.

00:17:56.780 Like when they're, when they're doing like, oh, AI made this photograph.

00:18:00.760 Can't you tell?

00:18:01.640 I'm like, no, I, I actually, I couldn't tell because AI stole this from a series of photographers

00:18:08.100 I love.

00:18:08.680 So it actually did look vaguely familiar and all of it was stolen.

00:18:12.000 Yeah.

00:18:12.220 It's all just like, it's pulling from things that were created by humans.

00:18:16.080 So technically, an AI was created by a human.

00:18:20.640 AI is clip art.

00:18:22.300 Like it is clip art.

00:18:23.460 It's stock image photos.

00:18:24.760 And they're like, they're going to take over the human race. 0.98

00:18:26.680 I'm like, no, like that it's, it's still, I think at this point, the AI conversation is

00:18:33.000 existential, but yeah, really capitalism is the conversation.

00:18:37.660 It's, it's not about AI.

00:18:39.380 AI is, is a symptom of capitalist greed.

00:18:44.260 You know what I mean?

00:18:44.820 And truly like we, we get so tired of hearing about the 1%, but it's the 1%. 0.99

00:18:48.340 The only thing that the 1% isn't really good at doing is making art.

00:18:52.980 Like they can make money and they can travel and they can do all this stuff, but they're

00:18:56.840 not creative and they're not good.

00:18:59.340 Like, I'm sorry, but to be that high up, you're not good.

00:19:02.220 No, you, you simply aren't.

00:19:03.600 It's the thing about the same argument where it's like, there's no ethical billionaires.

00:19:07.060 Yes.

00:19:07.520 Cause there's just no way there's literally no way you can achieve that level of money without

00:19:13.260 being awful in some respect, like without oppressing people in some respect.

00:19:17.100 Like you have to, in order to reach that level.

00:19:19.900 And without a level of like incredibly like toxic narcissism.

00:19:23.300 Yeah.

00:19:23.560 And so they, they, like you see it with like these narcissists all the time.

00:19:26.960 It's just like entitlement and this entitlement to other people's, uh, the, the, the narcissist

00:19:32.940 thinks that by being in proximity to greatness, that the narcissist is great, that they can look

00:19:37.520 at you and be like, okay, well I don't have joy, but you have joy.

00:19:40.140 Yeah.

00:19:40.340 So I'm going to take your joy.

00:19:41.360 And I hired you.

00:19:42.240 So technically.

00:19:43.080 So that's my joy now.

00:19:44.440 Technically that's me.

00:19:44.740 Technically that's all up here.

00:19:45.980 And they don't have art.

00:19:47.660 No.

00:19:47.860 And they don't have beauty and they don't have good.

00:19:49.840 And so they're looking at all these artists that have worked so hard to create our own

00:19:53.320 joy.

00:19:53.700 It's so hard to create our own like taste and create this culture.

00:19:56.380 And they're like, okay, how do we get rid of you?

00:19:59.040 Because every time we look at you, every time you're in a room and we see that you actually

00:20:02.920 dressed yourself and I don't recognize any of these brands because you made the clothes.

00:20:07.100 And all these photos that you took that are on your Instagram that you didn't have to

00:20:10.780 pay a Getty image person to take for you.

00:20:12.760 You know what I mean?

00:20:13.140 Like that people actually care about what you're creating.

00:20:15.480 I, as the narcissist, I cannot look at you any longer.

00:20:18.220 So I guess I'll have a robot do it. 1.00

00:20:20.420 Fuck your robot. 1.00

00:20:21.380 You dork. 1.00

00:20:22.560 You dork. 1.00

00:20:24.100 We'll just create an even stronger robot. 1.00

00:20:26.420 You just keep doing the next level of their robot.

00:20:29.460 With a beret on.

00:20:32.000 It's like the same thing with, I've had this argument with men, obviously. 0.90

00:20:37.460 Because they love a billionaire, like terrible men.

00:20:39.480 Oh my God.

00:20:40.120 They love a billionaire.

00:20:40.960 Because I think they're next.

00:20:42.140 Yeah, they're like, that's me. 0.98

00:20:44.120 I'm not going to talk shit on Elon because I am the next Elon. 0.97

00:20:48.080 No, you're not, David. 0.98

00:20:49.160 They're like, well, you know, I mean, real recognize real.

00:20:51.480 So like I get his mindset because I'm also up there with him.

00:20:54.460 I'm in the lab with him.

00:20:56.260 I'm also an abuser.

00:20:58.240 I'm also an awful person is what I meant.

00:21:00.460 Yeah.

00:21:00.780 With the argument with Elon too is hilarious because they talk about like Tesla or whatever.

00:21:05.340 And I'm always like, he, he purchased that idea from somebody else.

00:21:09.800 Yeah.

00:21:10.000 Oh, oh, it didn't come from his brain.

00:21:12.840 But that's what you just said.

00:21:13.920 It's like they, narcissists like him truly believe that because they had the means, which

00:21:19.780 he's also an UFO baby.

00:21:20.840 I don't know if anyone knew that.

00:21:22.260 And he purchased like a revolutionary idea.

00:21:26.280 He's like, well, clearly I am also smart.

00:21:29.320 Yeah.

00:21:29.540 I'm also revolutionary.

00:21:30.800 I'm also a genius because I had the money to buy this from somebody else whose brain

00:21:36.120 came up with it.

00:21:37.060 And then tanked their stock.

00:21:38.620 Like, I'm sorry.

00:21:39.200 And then ruined it.

00:21:40.240 And then, and then bought Twitter and tanked Twitter.

00:21:42.760 And like, it's now literally suing the people that allowed him to buy Twitter.

00:21:46.080 Like, he's like, you guys didn't tell me I was going to ruin it.

00:21:48.300 How come nobody told me that?

00:21:49.680 Well, and my favorite, my favorite Elon fact is it was this video about every time I say

00:21:55.420 him, I'm just going to flick off.

00:21:57.460 As you should.

00:21:57.960 Every, that video where he was like finally in charge of Tesla and he's like, I know what

00:22:02.340 I'm going to do.

00:22:03.020 I'm going to make a wonderful business decision.

00:22:05.020 I'm going to create a tank that you cannot destroy.

00:22:08.340 Okay.

00:22:09.160 And so there's this awesome video of him at like a car show and he hands this hammer to

00:22:15.820 this guy and is like, I'm serious.

00:22:17.140 Like, you can't, you cannot destroy this tank.

00:22:22.460 And the guy hits the hammer on the glass, but he just like taps it because he's afraid

00:22:26.160 to hurt the tank.

00:22:27.040 And Elon's like, no, I'm serious.

00:22:28.760 Hit it.

00:22:28.920 Like really go, like put your back into it.

00:22:31.000 That's what he says.

00:22:31.900 And this dude winds up and he hits this tank and all the glass breaks.

00:22:37.660 All windows.

00:22:38.800 They all just shatters.

00:22:40.740 And he's in front of an audience and you just hear him go, well, that's not supposed to

00:22:45.140 happen.

00:22:45.420 We'll work on that.

00:22:46.420 And he's like, cut the cameras, cut the cameras.

00:22:49.980 What a humiliating thing.

00:22:52.200 He hits it and then he goes, why would you do that?

00:22:54.020 Why would you hit it that hard?

00:22:55.040 He starts gaslighting him.

00:22:56.540 Why would you hit that hard?

00:22:57.380 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:22:58.500 Who here said to hit that as hard as you could?

00:23:01.480 Who said that?

00:23:01.980 Who gave you a hammer? 0.78

00:23:03.380 Where'd you even get that?

00:23:04.360 You come in with that security.

00:23:06.060 Get him out of here.

00:23:07.520 Guys, that wasn't the real tank.

00:23:08.900 Sorry about that.

00:23:09.940 Love you, Elon.

00:23:11.000 It's just, I don't.

00:23:13.420 It's just like that.

00:23:14.600 I don't know if you've ever seen that clip of, you know, Ray J.

00:23:17.940 Mm-hmm.

00:23:19.140 There's like a clip of him on a show of some kind and he comes out with like, I think

00:23:24.360 they're like glasses that can convert.

00:23:28.420 I think they're like reading glasses, but they're also like cool stylish glasses.

00:23:31.940 And then he's like, they're unbreakable.

00:23:34.400 And then the host is like, I'm feeling it right now and I feel like I could break them.

00:23:38.380 And he's like, go ahead, try.

00:23:39.700 He's like, put it on the ground, stomp on it.

00:23:41.000 He goes, I'm not going to do that.

00:23:42.260 And he goes, because you know.

00:23:43.880 And then he was like, you really want me to try and break them?

00:23:46.140 He goes, yeah.

00:23:46.500 And then he just snaps them in half easily with very little force.

00:23:51.020 And then he's just staring.

00:23:52.060 They're just staring at each other.

00:23:53.860 I know exactly what video you're talking about.

00:23:56.580 And I'm starting to realize in this moment that it's my favorite genre of video.

00:24:01.260 It's just some men being wrong.

00:24:03.240 Men being wrong. 0.69

00:24:04.820 Being like, this is unbreakable.

00:24:07.160 It is the most rock hard thing that you've ever felt.

00:24:12.340 And you're like, certainly.

00:24:14.500 Okay.

00:24:14.980 I like how they don't.

00:24:17.800 They're also not like quick enough to like make up a lie and be like, that was a test and you failed.

00:24:23.520 Now try the real ones.

00:24:25.040 Like they can't even think that fast.

00:24:26.960 Somehow they're bad. 0.84

00:24:28.060 They're like the most toxic of users and they're bad at it.

00:24:31.260 Like, yeah, it's just like when I tell people like when sometimes because men, obviously my job is literally terrorizing them on the Internet. 0.96

00:24:39.300 And sometimes they'll be so violently racist towards me, obviously, because they're bigoted and they kiss their mom on the mouth.

00:24:46.480 And then they'll tell me like they'll they'll be so racist towards me, but they pick the wrong race.

00:24:52.140 And then I'm like, you can't even be bigoted correctly.

00:24:55.140 Like, that's not the right race. 1.00

00:24:56.420 You would never make it in the Klan.

00:24:58.680 You wouldn't last a day in the Klan.

00:25:03.000 They would kick you out so fast.

00:25:05.040 They'd revoke your membership card easily.

00:25:07.080 Oh, I think that's a new one for me.

00:25:09.240 You would never make it.

00:25:11.800 They'd be ashamed to have you.

00:25:13.560 They really would.

00:25:14.240 They would they would no way they would let you.

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00:26:18.720 Sometimes, oh, fuck. 1.00

00:26:20.380 What else did I see recently? 1.00

00:26:22.780 Oh, okay.

00:26:23.520 I remember.

00:26:24.260 Someone told me something absolutely unbelievable about a man that I despise, right?

00:26:29.700 And I can't say who it was, but like, I truly was like, oh my God.

00:26:34.660 When she told me this news, and it was just about this horrible dude. 0.98

00:26:37.900 And she told me, she told me that he paid a woman $1,700 to see her boobs. 0.99

00:26:48.500 No. 0.99

00:26:49.160 No.

00:26:49.460 When you hear that, you're like, that's unbelievable.

00:26:51.840 That's truly it.

00:26:52.440 Did he have $1,700?

00:26:53.740 No, he didn't.

00:26:54.560 He took it out on a credit card. 0.99

00:26:56.680 Just to see her boobs. 1.00

00:26:58.260 Just to see. 0.96

00:26:58.700 Just not to touch.

00:27:00.280 To see.

00:27:01.180 And then I said, in person?

00:27:02.640 And she goes, no.

00:27:03.660 A picture.

00:27:04.480 Girl.

00:27:04.900 Girl.

00:27:06.400 Girl. 1.00

00:27:06.960 I told her, girl, the way that I think men are so fucking dumb. 1.00

00:27:10.800 Like, when she told me that, I was like, girl, men are so stupid. 1.00

00:27:14.100 That's genuinely hitting me in like the most like cringe area of my body. 1.00

00:27:18.580 Like, I feel sick to myself. 1.00

00:27:19.420 Men are so fucking dumb. 1.00

00:27:20.460 Like, they're so stupid. 1.00

00:27:22.340 Also, the phrase, like, to see your boobs. 1.00

00:27:24.920 Like. 0.96

00:27:25.460 You know, you could just Google boobs and like, you don't, it doesn't have to cost you a dollar.

00:27:31.840 But then the kink for him must be like having no money and using the last of his funds to 0.96

00:27:37.380 see boobs. 1.00

00:27:38.220 Like, that's the, the whole kink has to be it because boobs are so readily available. 1.00

00:27:41.520 If anything, it's camp. 0.65

00:27:43.780 Wow.

00:27:45.480 Iconic.

00:27:46.060 It's camp at that point.

00:27:50.880 I just want to let the audience know that we had to take a break because the producers

00:27:55.820 came in and said, you're, you're bashing men too much.

00:27:59.160 And now you have to name five things you like about them.

00:28:03.520 They're pointing one at me.

00:28:04.460 It's a small gun. 1.00

00:28:06.320 It's a pathetically small gun and I'm not afraid to die. 1.00

00:28:10.300 So joke's on you. 0.99

00:28:12.700 I have no fear of death.

00:28:14.360 That for sure.

00:28:17.100 Yeah.

00:28:17.540 What were we saying? 1.00

00:28:18.220 Oh, men are stupid. 1.00

00:28:18.840 Yeah. 1.00

00:28:19.180 Yeah.

00:28:19.440 We were talking about.

00:28:20.460 Unbelievable.

00:28:21.600 Boobs. 1.00

00:28:22.220 We were really talking about boobs. 0.99

00:28:22.900 Seen a picture of boobs. 0.99

00:28:23.820 Like, can you imagine going like, like ballooning in payments on your credit card because you 0.99

00:28:28.180 paid to see boobs? 1.00

00:28:28.940 That's crazy. 0.99

00:28:29.800 No, I can't.

00:28:30.760 But also.

00:28:31.300 Can you imagine telling the IRS that?

00:28:32.320 Sorry.

00:28:32.800 Yo.

00:28:33.280 Had a rough night.

00:28:33.980 Well, you had to tell your mom.

00:28:35.400 You're like, mom, I need more cash.

00:28:38.140 Don't ask.

00:28:39.880 She's beautiful. 0.64

00:28:40.800 I just want to see her breasts. 1.00

00:28:43.880 God damn. 1.00

00:28:44.900 That's crazy. 1.00

00:28:45.960 Unbelievable.

00:28:46.320 Unbelievable.

00:28:46.600 Really?

00:28:47.500 I even like one time I explained.

00:28:49.080 I don't know why I was like telling my, why was I telling my in-laws this?

00:28:53.900 I was like telling them about how like girls make money, like selling even like feet pics. 0.99

00:28:58.380 Like they'll sell like feet pictures.

00:28:59.940 God bless.

00:29:00.440 And they were like blown away.

00:29:01.960 They were like, really?

00:29:02.840 That's crazy.

00:29:03.720 I'm like, yeah.

00:29:04.200 And they make a lot of money.

00:29:05.120 Like they'll make like six figures off that.

00:29:07.240 Truly.

00:29:07.700 Yeah.

00:29:07.900 Literally.

00:29:08.840 And I was like, they were like, why though?

00:29:11.480 Like why, why do people want to see that?

00:29:14.080 And I was like, by people, I think you mean men majority. 1.00

00:29:17.240 And it's because they're dumb. 1.00

00:29:18.960 I do think they're dumb. 1.00

00:29:20.720 I think that they're not. 1.00

00:29:22.180 But I, I think I have a fascination with men's attitude towards sex because they act like 1.00

00:29:27.620 it's so hard to get.

00:29:29.360 And I'm like, no dog, I'd be doing it all the time.

00:29:32.380 It's actually quite easy when you're not awful.

00:29:34.600 It's actually so easy.

00:29:35.280 It's actually quite easy.

00:29:36.560 But I think what they're really not addressing is like their bad personalities and personal

00:29:40.840 hygiene.

00:29:41.400 Truly. 1.00

00:29:41.780 Like no one will fuck me. 0.99

00:29:43.040 And I'm like, no, people, people want to fuck all the time because it feels nice. 1.00

00:29:46.500 Yeah. 1.00

00:29:46.860 People don't want to fuck you because you're mean. 1.00

00:29:48.480 They don't want to fuck you. 1.00

00:29:50.540 It's not that they don't want to fuck. 1.00

00:29:52.060 They just don't want to fuck you. 1.00

00:29:53.400 And that's a you problem. 1.00

00:29:55.000 Once again, I think too, like even with, uh, I talked about that with Caleb, like, cause

00:30:00.460 Caleb was like, actually, like, if you just like, I don't know, like have like a favorite

00:30:04.080 artist or something, it's pretty easy to talk to women and then hopefully get laid at some 1.00

00:30:08.220 point.

00:30:08.580 Right.

00:30:08.920 Oh, beautiful.

00:30:10.000 Yeah.

00:30:10.240 Like it's pretty, if you like listen to them and you're nice, you have to like women 1.00

00:30:14.760 in order to have sex with them. 0.99

00:30:16.940 Yeah. 1.00

00:30:17.280 And I do.

00:30:17.700 I do think that we're having, I think we're in this like really clear cultural moment where

00:30:24.460 we're finding out that men don't like women truly actually though, like they're attracted

00:30:28.720 to them.

00:30:29.160 They just don't like them as people.

00:30:31.600 Yes.

00:30:32.160 As like autonomous humans.

00:30:33.800 Yeah.

00:30:34.000 They're like, Oh, they're pretty.

00:30:35.380 And then, then they're mad about it.

00:30:37.780 And then they start doing this and I just, that didn't seem like part of the package when

00:30:42.560 I saw it online.

00:30:43.600 And so, but that's, you know, that's the real, that's the real, like kind of funny thing

00:30:48.100 about entitlement is like, you know, raising these, these boys to believe that they will

00:30:51.980 inherit the earth.

00:30:52.940 Like what they didn't do is inherit any skills or listening ability.

00:30:57.340 And so everybody else, like women and queer people, like all of us had to like, we grew

00:31:04.740 up being like, you're not going to get anything.

00:31:06.200 And we were like, okay, well, I guess I'll learn to read and then we can go on.

00:31:10.560 I guess I'll get funny.

00:31:11.600 Yeah.

00:31:11.900 I'll be, I'll be funny.

00:31:12.960 I'll develop my skills.

00:31:14.140 And then we go on dates and we're like, what skills did you develop to survive? 1.00

00:31:17.840 And then we go home and we fuck each other. 0.99

00:31:21.860 And guys, they go on dates with you and they're like, well, I guess like here you are. 1.00

00:31:26.080 This is pretty much it.

00:31:26.840 This is pretty much it.

00:31:28.720 You're welcome, by the way.

00:31:29.920 Yeah.

00:31:30.220 Okay.

00:31:30.400 We're going to switch gears really quick so I can tell ER about my horrible experience

00:31:33.260 at something I cannot relate to y'all.

00:31:34.900 Yes.

00:31:35.340 It was an event.

00:31:37.440 Basically I went and I was like feeling myself.

00:31:39.740 I was feeling good, feeling cute, feeling fresh.

00:31:42.180 Fell twice.

00:31:43.360 Oh.

00:31:43.620 The first time I fell, I've never fallen at anything.

00:31:47.360 I was, I've worn harder to wear heels.

00:31:49.840 I've worn higher heels.

00:31:51.000 I just, I don't know what happened.

00:31:52.840 Plus I was wearing a wig.

00:31:54.200 No.

00:31:54.840 And so like the first time I fell, this is like tea, right?

00:31:58.540 The first time I fell, I fell in front of a man that I don't like personally.

00:32:05.440 Someone in the industry.

00:32:06.820 I don't like him because he was extremely rude to me the first time I met him and he was just

00:32:12.200 pissed off because I didn't know who he was.

00:32:13.820 Oh yeah.

00:32:14.200 I love that.

00:32:15.120 Which is so funny to me because like, look at me. 0.99

00:32:18.300 Like, do I look like the bitch that's in your demographic? 1.00

00:32:20.680 I doubt it. 0.99

00:32:21.120 I don't know a single man's name. 0.99

00:32:22.600 Do any of the bitches who like you look like me? 1.00

00:32:24.360 I doubt it. 1.00

00:32:24.840 So like, I don't know why you're shocked and I don't know what the fuck your name is. 0.99

00:32:27.660 Anyways. 0.99

00:32:28.480 So he and I, like the first time we met, he was so rude to me.

00:32:31.780 This was like a year ago. 0.95

00:32:32.800 And I made a mean ass joke back, which roused the crowd, made him hate me more. 0.98

00:32:38.180 Lovely. 1.00

00:32:38.580 Don't give a fuck. 1.00

00:32:39.360 But he's also afraid of me, so he's never going to talk about me. 1.00

00:32:41.140 So I'm like, all right, see ya. 0.99

00:32:42.260 So you know, fast forward to Elizabeth and I ate shit in front of him. 0.99

00:32:47.960 He looked at me. 0.99

00:32:49.220 He looked at me fall.

00:32:51.080 Didn't offer to help.

00:32:52.580 Looked away.

00:32:53.400 And then I thought to myself, you kind of ate me up.

00:32:56.720 You kind of got me.

00:32:58.760 Hey, you know what?

00:32:59.520 One, one on the scoreboard.

00:33:00.940 Jokes on me.

00:33:02.020 Jokes on me.

00:33:02.480 You got me.

00:33:03.160 Listen.

00:33:03.360 He got his look back.

00:33:05.020 I'm okay admitting it.

00:33:06.280 That's hilarious.

00:33:07.120 I know every moment in my life where I've had a, okay.

00:33:11.000 Yeah.

00:33:11.340 Like a weird, rude encounter.

00:33:13.060 One on one.

00:33:14.100 Like it's one to one because there are so few instances where I've lost.

00:33:19.160 You know what I mean?

00:33:19.980 Where someone's been rude and I haven't been able to like top it with like a funny joke.

00:33:22.860 Exactly.

00:33:23.500 And so every single one that I've missed where I've been like, you got me.

00:33:27.280 I like diary about it on my arm.

00:33:32.200 I've never, I punished myself.

00:33:34.100 I got caught slipping.

00:33:35.160 I'm never going to get caught again.

00:33:36.080 I'll promise you that.

00:33:36.860 I took one of these home.

00:33:38.300 I think too.

00:33:39.380 Like when he did that and I saw it and I got up and I was like, no, sick love. 0.99

00:33:43.440 I love when men do shit like that. 0.99

00:33:46.140 I love that. 0.99

00:33:47.620 I got up.

00:33:48.960 I was telling my sister was with me and I was telling, I was like, he kind of ate me up.

00:33:53.400 He kind of got me.

00:33:54.820 You know what?

00:33:55.620 That was funny.

00:33:56.400 But now you like it.

00:33:57.200 I said, yeah.

00:33:58.180 I was like, maybe we are, maybe we have a lot more in common than I thought.

00:34:00.680 You feel closer to him now.

00:34:02.540 We found common ground.

00:34:04.720 And I even remember thinking, I'm like, next time we meet, maybe we'll be friends.

00:34:08.880 Maybe we'll develop a relationship.

00:34:10.260 It's real.

00:34:10.700 When I was a teenager, I got in a fist fight with this girl. 0.97

00:34:14.920 Really?

00:34:15.240 And we were like truly so evenly matched that at one point we were like.

00:34:20.780 We stopped mid ass kicking and we became really close.

00:34:25.780 And you're like, yeah, a little bit.

00:34:28.240 A hundred percent.

00:34:29.280 We were like, I guess this would go on forever.

00:34:31.060 Do you just want to get really close?

00:34:32.760 You're like, I'm exhausted.

00:34:34.580 I'm going to be honest.

00:34:35.240 Yeah.

00:34:35.700 And then I came out.

00:34:37.880 And then you said all the pieces.

00:34:39.760 Yeah.

00:34:40.740 Yeah. 0.99

00:34:41.140 We're beating each other's ass and then like kind of fall in love. 0.99

00:34:44.600 Enemies to lovers arc. 0.99

00:34:45.900 Like, you're all, this is something I need to confront.

00:34:49.720 I'll be back.

00:34:50.980 Let's put a pin in this fight and I'll come back.

00:34:53.960 Then maybe we'll feel differently after.

00:34:55.760 Thank you for teaching me.

00:34:56.320 We confront some things.

00:34:57.480 Yeah.

00:34:57.900 A hundred percent.

00:34:59.420 Was that like, were you young?

00:35:01.560 Oh, you were in high school.

00:35:02.300 You said you were in high school.

00:35:03.060 This was actually, this was a middle school fight. 1.00

00:35:05.640 Oh shit. 0.99

00:35:06.080 And at like a summer camp. 1.00

00:35:08.420 And we got in this fight and then became really close.

00:35:11.060 And then shortly after I started dating my first girl.

00:35:15.640 Nice.

00:35:16.260 And that was, well, you know, first girl, first girl, first kill, very first kill.

00:35:20.980 Also least favorite phrase, body count.

00:35:24.060 I've been listening to that phrase recently and I just want to tell the children that's

00:35:27.300 sick.

00:35:27.940 It is. 1.00

00:35:28.460 Y'all are fucked up. 1.00

00:35:29.140 We, we would just say your number, like the number of people you slept with body count. 1.00

00:35:33.820 What the hell are y'all talking about?

00:35:36.020 What are y'all doing to each other that you're calling it a body count? 0.67

00:35:39.760 Literally. 0.99

00:35:39.920 Cut it the fuck out. 0.99

00:35:41.640 Enough. 1.00

00:35:42.320 God damn it. 1.00

00:35:43.300 I'm sick of this. 1.00

00:35:43.940 That's the straight agenda. 0.66

00:35:45.220 The heterosexual agenda. 0.79

00:35:46.200 The heterosexual agenda is body count. 0.81

00:35:48.180 It is.

00:35:48.800 Yeah.

00:35:49.000 It's awful.

00:35:49.700 The way that, uh, especially like every man that spawns out of a sewage drain, um,

00:35:55.300 starts a podcast and then goes bald simultaneously.

00:35:57.980 I don't know if it's a coincidence.

00:35:59.320 It's science.

00:35:59.940 God.

00:36:00.340 I don't know what it is.

00:36:01.380 And when they do it, they talk about body count all the time.

00:36:04.540 And they're like, oh, well, you know, if she has a high body count and she, it's like 1.00

00:36:09.080 that bullshit ass metaphor they always use. 0.99

00:36:10.900 They're like, well, you wouldn't buy a car with a lot of miles on it. 1.00

00:36:13.980 Ooh. 0.60

00:36:14.240 And I was like, and I wouldn't come to your house and kill you with a gun. 0.62

00:36:16.740 But see, like now we're just talking what ifs.

00:36:18.460 Like we're talking hypotheticals.

00:36:20.080 I might do both.

00:36:20.720 I love vintage vehicles and I'm very violent.

00:36:26.100 And I'm also homicidal.

00:36:27.980 Yeah.

00:36:29.080 Yeah.

00:36:30.000 At times.

00:36:30.940 Yes.

00:36:31.240 Yeah.

00:36:31.920 I think too, like that kind of behavior.

00:36:34.760 I will always like, if you have to like make up metaphors about inanimate objects in order

00:36:39.120 to prove why you're involuntarily celibate, I think that you have a bigger problem.

00:36:42.680 I heard the best one today.

00:36:45.320 I heard the best one.

00:36:46.260 It was so sloppy.

00:36:47.720 It was like, you know, that, that like male philosopher vibe and it was this guy being

00:36:52.720 like, well, how do you feel about when people say, and I'm saying this to a woman, um, cause

00:36:57.940 she's talking about, he's asked her about her body count and she, and he's like, well,

00:37:01.700 what about how if a key fits in many locks, you call it a master key.

00:37:09.320 Yeah. 0.88

00:37:09.640 But if a lot fits any key, it's called a shitty lock. 1.00

00:37:16.320 And I was like, poetry, yo, y'all are so dumb. 0.99

00:37:22.680 I believe climate change is happening to kill off specifically men. 1.00

00:37:27.580 That's your greatest conspiracy.

00:37:31.620 And I'm sorry, but like sperm count is down.

00:37:35.260 I think that God is starting the climate change at the nutsack.

00:37:40.560 It's straight up.

00:37:41.400 And he's starting with y'all.

00:37:42.400 Yeah.

00:37:42.860 He's starting, he's rapturing and he's starting with y'all. 0.88

00:37:44.940 He heard y'all say that thing about like a master key versus a shitty lock.

00:37:48.480 And he's like, he said, fast forward it, move it up a hundred years. 0.83

00:37:51.540 Zap those tadpoles. 1.00

00:37:52.620 Yeah.

00:37:53.480 I'm killing it off now.

00:37:54.600 I'm just coming to the source.

00:37:55.920 Yeah.

00:37:56.540 That's so, yeah. 0.88

00:37:57.420 That key and lock bullshit as I made a video about that once. 0.89

00:38:01.060 And I was like, well, you know who has a lot of keys? 0.97

00:38:03.380 A janitor.

00:38:04.500 And that's what you are. 1.00

00:38:07.300 Cleaning up my shit, bitch. 1.00

00:38:08.640 That's what you are. 1.00

00:38:09.500 I'm sorry.

00:38:10.160 All love to janitors.

00:38:10.680 Love y'all. 0.85

00:38:10.960 If a woman is having sex all the time, it's probably cause she's good at it and she enjoys 1.00

00:38:16.460 it, which I think is actually the thing that they don't like about it.

00:38:19.400 They don't want.

00:38:20.000 It involves consent.

00:38:21.060 That's what they don't like about that. 0.74

00:38:22.180 They're like, ugh, she likes sex? 0.99

00:38:24.360 Well, then she's not going to be impressed by me. 0.99

00:38:28.260 They have to find virgins because they're like, ugh, when I smash this thing into her, 1.00

00:38:32.200 she might not be impressed.

00:38:33.420 You know what I mean?

00:38:34.900 Based off previous history.

00:38:36.780 Yes.

00:38:37.100 I don't want to got a great track record.

00:38:38.520 Which is like, I think kind of the opposite in gay world. 0.98

00:38:41.120 We like, we like love it when you've had multiple partners because we're like, oh, you

00:38:44.460 know how to love.

00:38:45.540 Yeah, truly.

00:38:46.040 You know, I just saw two girls, they have like their own podcast and they were talking

00:38:52.260 about this fallacy of body count or whatever, especially when it comes to men, I'm talking

00:38:55.920 about women.

00:38:56.800 And they were saying that they think when men have a lot of sexual partners, it means that

00:39:02.640 they're not good in bed because no one comes back.

00:39:05.840 Like you have no repeats at all because they're like, that was the worst two minutes of my life.

00:39:10.700 I'm never doing that again.

00:39:11.560 Whereas when women have a lot of sexual partners, it means she's really good in bed because she's 1.00

00:39:16.660 like, got a bunch of dudes lining up, right?

00:39:19.220 Yes.

00:39:19.500 Who want to experience it.

00:39:21.120 And she's saying next.

00:39:22.540 Yeah.

00:39:22.900 She gets to decide, especially according to their rhetoric. 0.97

00:39:25.440 It's like, well, women, like it's a lot harder for men to have sex because women get 1.00

00:39:29.820 to decide. 1.00

00:39:30.400 I'm like, yeah, because you guys would fuck a hole in a tree. 1.00

00:39:33.300 That's not my fault. 1.00

00:39:33.920 And listen, if I had a penis, I'd probably try to fuck a tree too. 1.00

00:39:37.700 Trees are hot. 1.00

00:39:39.680 Okay.

00:39:40.020 And let's talk about it.

00:39:41.820 Whoa.

00:39:42.860 Like I've been around a lot of trees recently that I'm like, but I can't because I'm not

00:39:47.700 going to lick bark.

00:39:48.700 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:39:52.080 But you know, eight to 12 inches, which is how big my spiritual dick is away from the 0.99

00:39:57.720 tree, coming closer to it over and over again. 0.99

00:40:00.000 I do that.

00:40:00.780 There you go.

00:40:01.320 Lick bark.

00:40:01.720 No.

00:40:01.840 Well, we'll see.

00:40:02.820 And I wish more people would be honest like yourself.

00:40:06.420 And by people, I mean men.

00:40:07.680 Yeah.

00:40:08.040 I hope my mom tunes in for this.

00:40:09.780 My mom's like trying to like constantly trying to figure out, I think what's happening for 0.99

00:40:12.880 gay sex. 1.00

00:40:13.400 And I'm just going to be like, it's actually just tree fucking. 1.00

00:40:16.560 She just, she want to be on a newsletter or? 0.99

00:40:19.300 Yes.

00:40:20.220 If there was one.

00:40:21.700 Ooh.

00:40:22.220 She'd be signed up.

00:40:23.060 Subscribed.

00:40:23.920 Nice.

00:40:24.240 Yeah.

00:40:24.460 Yeah.

00:40:24.680 Yeah.

00:40:24.760 I love it.

00:40:25.040 Like the New York Times subscription.

00:40:26.680 Yes, absolutely.

00:40:27.720 But it's just a newsletter. 0.98

00:40:28.760 Edit the shit out of that. 0.98

00:40:30.780 You should pen it. 0.72

00:40:32.040 You should start it.

00:40:33.240 You should.

00:40:33.760 I support you.

00:40:34.560 On what?

00:40:35.260 The notes app?

00:40:36.100 Or what are we writing on now?

00:40:37.100 This time on notes app, yeah.

00:40:38.460 But you say you have to, you have to have notes though in order to get it.

00:40:41.580 Oh.

00:40:42.820 Paying for everything now.

00:40:46.400 Okay.

00:40:47.200 Let's get back on topic.

00:40:48.480 Okay.

00:40:48.840 We didn't even go over our topic.

00:40:50.040 Our topic for today is non-binary representation in media.

00:40:53.640 Because obviously ER is non-binary and someone who is trailblazing in the world of media.

00:40:58.700 When did you come out as non-binary?

00:41:00.300 Um, probably around 2017.

00:41:04.920 Okay.

00:41:05.700 And, uh, you know, there are so many people that have been non-binary before me.

00:41:12.040 Yeah.

00:41:12.180 And there are going to be so many after me.

00:41:14.320 And I think, I think the, the thing that made it special at right around that time is actually

00:41:22.720 that it was, it was not that this thing had not existed.

00:41:24.920 It was the, I happened to be on TV when the conversation was really starting in a large way.

00:41:32.680 Yeah.

00:41:33.060 Kind of across the general public for the first time.

00:41:35.500 You know what I mean?

00:41:35.880 Like in feminist circles, women and gender studies, when in that talk about the two spirit, 0.99

00:41:41.540 you know what I mean?

00:41:42.220 We, a lot of people have been having this conversation.

00:41:44.440 And I just happened to be on TV.

00:41:46.220 Yeah.

00:41:46.900 And so I was really lucky in that way to be able to become like a person that people could

00:41:52.420 point to as an example of what they were talking about when this conversation was getting started.

00:41:56.780 Yeah.

00:41:57.120 Have you seen, like, especially when you were on TV and obviously you're like extremely

00:42:02.120 representative of a very underrepresented, uh, group in, especially in the world of entertainment,

00:42:07.380 it's like unheard of really.

00:42:09.500 Um, did you see like a, did you feel like any sort of pressure because you're like kind

00:42:14.060 of like braving it alone for a little bit as far as like in the public eye on, in mainstream

00:42:18.900 media, or did you feel like almost like, I don't know, I guess I honored to carry the torch

00:42:24.620 in that sense.

00:42:25.500 Both.

00:42:26.000 Yeah.

00:42:26.340 Like I, I think that you do carrying the torch is pressure. 0.99

00:42:31.340 Like you think about those poor motherfuckers at the Olympics that are like actually carrying 1.00

00:42:36.600 the torch. 0.99

00:42:37.040 I know people are like, what an honor.

00:42:38.200 I'm like, what a nightmare.

00:42:39.820 Like you wouldn't be running the whole time and like the anxiety, if you trip, if that

00:42:45.660 flame goes out, like literally the whole world is watching and you're like, like, sorry

00:42:51.480 guys, it's my first day.

00:42:52.560 I feel that way all the time about queer stuff. 1.00

00:42:55.640 I just happen to also really love it.

00:42:58.960 Like I love talking about being queer.

00:43:02.060 I love queer studies.

00:43:03.520 I love being a feminist. 1.00

00:43:04.880 Like I love all these things.

00:43:05.820 And so it was a lot of the literature that I was consuming anyway was helping me be on,

00:43:10.940 helping me get the footing to be able to have those conversations.

00:43:14.280 It's always scary when you become a representative because you're also the constantly trying to

00:43:20.940 talk to the audience about like, we're not a monolith and like especially trans and non-binary

00:43:24.800 people, like we all look very, very different and have different relationships with our

00:43:29.460 gender.

00:43:29.940 But it does make you when you become like an activist or like a mouthpiece for your community,

00:43:35.520 you have to be really careful to make sure that you're being as inclusive as possible.

00:43:40.900 Yeah.

00:43:41.100 And also, you know, you can look at different non-binary representatives and each one of us

00:43:47.300 are doing something different for our community.

00:43:49.040 And so some of us are being like, this is, this is the really heady conversation or this

00:43:55.340 is the, this is the most general conversation.

00:43:57.820 I've really tried to have a conversation about like joy.

00:44:01.960 Yeah.

00:44:02.580 And.

00:44:03.620 Which is like really important, especially now.

00:44:06.140 Yes.

00:44:06.480 Yeah.

00:44:07.000 And, and frankly, using like white privilege and skinny privilege to have a conversation

00:44:12.720 about being non-binary in spaces where like brown people might not be invited.

00:44:17.820 Yeah.

00:44:18.080 You know what I mean?

00:44:18.880 Yeah, absolutely.

00:44:19.300 Or now we're having a conversation about non-binary people who are also plus size, like not going 1.00

00:44:23.820 to be invited into that space.

00:44:25.220 Yeah.

00:44:25.420 And so I'm worming my way in and being like a representative in those spaces where other

00:44:29.640 people might not be allowed and trying to, to broaden the public's understanding.

00:44:35.440 Yeah.

00:44:35.920 So that my community can have an easier time.

00:44:38.340 Yeah, absolutely.

00:44:39.460 I think that's so wonderful and also important, especially when you talk about leveraging privilege

00:44:45.140 in order to like keep the door open because it's hard enough as it is to get in, but you

00:44:50.340 add more intersections, right?

00:44:52.280 In which you sit oppressed and then it gets even harder to get through the door.

00:44:56.160 Yes.

00:44:56.460 And so I think, I guess like my other question would be, do you feel, do you feel like the

00:45:03.780 tides have shifted at all because of the exposure?

00:45:06.140 Do you think in a, in somewhat positive way?

00:45:08.440 I know it's also very awful because there's a lot of, and I've talked about this on the

00:45:11.500 show before, but there's like a lot of like anti-trans like legislation going on right

00:45:15.040 now and like trans genocide.

00:45:16.100 And there's a lot of erasure, especially when it comes to the trans community as a whole

00:45:19.300 and non-binary people as a whole.

00:45:21.340 So do you think that it's moving positively at least a little bit, even if it feels like

00:45:26.680 it's like one step forward, two steps back?

00:45:31.060 The, the answer is that we can see movements like this throughout time to varying degrees

00:45:39.980 of like horrificness, right?

00:45:41.640 So like, if you look at slavery right after slavery is not beautiful emancipation, it's

00:45:47.860 emancipation plus the Jim Crow era.

00:45:50.280 Yeah.

00:45:51.020 You know what I mean?

00:45:51.620 And you have the, the seventies movement where we like pass the ERA, it goes straight into

00:45:56.720 the eighties, which is like a seriously neoliberal, like toxically capitalist time where women are 1.00

00:46:02.520 kind of sent back into the home in this awful way after being told that they were going to

00:46:06.200 be entering the workforce.

00:46:07.640 Like after every movement gains, after every like group of oppressed people gets a freedom

00:46:13.400 or a liberty or even a bit of confidence, which I think is what you were saying with

00:46:17.000 transness, there is a backlash to it and they, the, they're obsessed with us. 0.99

00:46:22.860 Like these people that hate trans people, they're obsessed with us and they're only obsessed

00:46:27.900 with us because when you're at the top of the pyramid, which we understand there doesn't

00:46:32.400 need to be a pyramid, but they're at the top of it.

00:46:34.520 They're constantly having to kick people down to make sure that they stay on the point.

00:46:39.460 And so they're watching trans people be like, you know what? 0.60

00:46:43.580 I'm feeling okay about myself.

00:46:45.560 Yep.

00:46:46.080 I love my community and I actually don't even need to be on the pyramid.

00:46:49.820 And so instead of even having to kick trans people down, they're flailing because we're 1.00

00:46:54.780 like, no, no, no, we don't want to, we don't want the fucking pyramid. 0.99

00:46:59.420 We don't want it. 0.98

00:47:00.440 We want to have our own communities.

00:47:01.680 I want to be left alone, actually. 0.99

00:47:03.720 I want to be left the fuck alone. 0.99

00:47:04.860 And the thing that actually destroys a white supremacist, patriarchal, capitalist pyramid 1.00

00:47:12.760 is when we say, I don't care about you.

00:47:15.540 I want to be left alone.

00:47:16.980 It's the same conversation about entitlement and narcissism that we're starting to have

00:47:20.980 of like the way that you hurt a narcissist is by not giving them energy at all.

00:47:25.900 Yep.

00:47:26.140 I love my community.

00:47:28.420 I, I can't, I like legitimately am grateful every day I was not born straight. 0.98

00:47:34.420 Like I love it.

00:47:35.960 I love it here.

00:47:36.940 Which is fair.

00:47:37.680 Yeah.

00:47:37.920 That is so fair.

00:47:39.400 Especially now.

00:47:41.180 It's, it's, I mean, talking about these conversations with men, like I, we're legitimately getting

00:47:46.140 to a point where I think women are starting to see like that, like cis at women that love

00:47:51.020 men.

00:47:51.700 I, queer people are like, we're praying for you, girl.

00:47:55.100 Sending good vibes.

00:47:56.140 Yeah.

00:47:56.400 Because men are getting so, so much more violent right now in a really pushbacky way where like

00:48:01.360 women are starting to love themselves. 1.00

00:48:03.020 We've had this body positivity movement.

00:48:04.880 We've had the BLM movement.

00:48:06.360 We've had this trans empowerment movement and men are responding with violence.

00:48:09.980 Like we're having more shootings than ever.

00:48:11.940 You know, these, these acts of domestic terrorism are increasing.

00:48:15.100 And so while it's violent now, it's violent because we are making progress.

00:48:21.800 That's such a great point.

00:48:23.540 I never thought of it that way.

00:48:24.480 You're so right.

00:48:25.100 It's like the pushback is so real.

00:48:27.560 It's like, uh, they like this idea of like cat and mouse.

00:48:31.800 And then when you just remove yourself entirely from it, they feel powerless, which is the whole

00:48:36.940 point. 0.96

00:48:37.280 And I think even with my, my platform specifically, like obviously like I fuck up terrible dudes

00:48:43.660 all the time, willingly and happily and voluntarily at the same time though, I feel like for a

00:48:49.880 while, especially in the beginning, there was this conversation that was almost being had every

00:48:53.840 three to six months where like a new white dude would find me and be like, she's just so mean. 1.00

00:48:59.080 Oh my God. 0.92

00:48:59.520 I think she's just the meanest person alive. 1.00

00:49:01.260 I am very fucking mean, probably the meanest person they'll ever come across. 0.99

00:49:04.180 And I've never lied about that. 0.99

00:49:05.700 I've always been very upfront about that. 1.00

00:49:07.280 And I'm like, I'm a fucking, I'm a cunt and I will be one if I need to be. 0.99

00:49:11.420 And so it's not something I'm proud of. 1.00

00:49:13.240 It's like something I use for good.

00:49:15.080 That's how I see it. 0.94

00:49:16.360 Um, I have the ability to be really fucking mean and I only do it to mean and awful people. 0.88

00:49:21.100 So, and I feel like what they hate the most, and I had this conversation even on my TikTok 0.99

00:49:26.140 recently where they want to talk about looks, like they want to call you fat and ugly. 1.00

00:49:30.000 They'll say that to the prettiest, skinniest bitch in the world. 1.00

00:49:32.000 Like they don't care. 1.00

00:49:32.720 They're going to say it no matter what, because it's a power play.

00:49:35.420 It's a way for them to feel power and like they're exerting something over you.

00:49:39.680 And I've told my followers before, like when you remove yourself from the male gaze and

00:49:44.500 you remove male validation from your brain and you like realize that validation doesn't

00:49:49.340 need to come from anyone but me, anyone but me and people in my immediate circle that I

00:49:53.680 love and care about are the only people whose opinions should matter to me.

00:49:57.920 But mine should be at the very top.

00:49:59.720 So when you take that power from them, they have like nowhere to go.

00:50:03.660 Like you say they call you ugly and you're like, okay.

00:50:07.780 Yeah. 0.75

00:50:08.480 To you.

00:50:09.640 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:09.940 And I also think you're ugly. 0.99

00:50:11.460 You can't say that to me. 0.99

00:50:12.600 Like when they call me fat and ugly, like they'll say the worst things about my looks

00:50:15.400 and I'm like, okay. 0.78

00:50:16.820 Yeah.

00:50:17.060 And you look like you work, like you sell turf in a Sam's club and that's my fault.

00:50:20.880 You're mad at me.

00:50:21.960 Why is that my fault? 0.99

00:50:22.800 And they're like, see, that's fucked up. 0.99

00:50:23.820 You shouldn't say that to me because they're just so not used to women. 1.00

00:50:27.920 Not giving a shit if they don't find you attractive like anyone at all. 0.96

00:50:32.760 And they're used to, this is like, I, I named my EP that's coming out violence because I've 0.97

00:50:40.480 had this like obsession recently with violence.

00:50:43.260 And I think part of it was, you know, reading all this, this, these books about queerness

00:50:47.980 and about different forms of community and communism and communalism and basically thinking

00:50:54.920 about this myth of, um, um, pacifism and that we, we as women and queer people and trans

00:51:04.300 people are, and the black community and people of color, like truly all of these marginalized

00:51:09.220 communities are supposed to take violence from the middle in stride.

00:51:14.960 We are supposed to take it and keep going.

00:51:16.480 And we are supposed to be quote unquote better than them.

00:51:19.020 Yeah.

00:51:19.400 With grace and patience.

00:51:20.620 Yes.

00:51:21.220 Yeah.

00:51:21.580 And the answer for me now is no.

00:51:25.380 Yeah.

00:51:26.100 Actually I don't.

00:51:26.960 Yeah.

00:51:27.340 I'm, I'm, I'm reorienting myself towards violence and it might not look the same as their violence.

00:51:33.740 Like I actually don't feel violence.

00:51:36.740 My form of violence is not othering people.

00:51:40.140 It's not kicking people out of the club.

00:51:42.060 It's that I have a community I love and I'm going to take care of it by all means necessary.

00:51:50.960 And I will not watch violence happen to my community and not respond without violence.

00:51:58.000 I do not feel like a pacifist.

00:52:01.580 And I don't want to be one.

00:52:03.020 I don't want to be one.

00:52:03.900 And that's okay.

00:52:04.500 You, you, you make the comment of like, you know, and I'm the meanest person.

00:52:07.680 We've, we've, we both were like trained in this way to, I think, make those comments.

00:52:12.500 Yeah.

00:52:12.680 And Caleb would probably joke about himself in the same way.

00:52:15.760 Caleb Hearn, who I was just listening to y'all's episode.

00:52:18.560 But the fact is you're a very obviously joyful person, which is why people tune in.

00:52:23.800 Yeah.

00:52:24.080 And the way that you're being mean is satire.

00:52:27.220 It's like we literally, it's all satire.

00:52:29.640 We live in a massive like patriarchal system.

00:52:33.060 And so it's, I have men in my life that I love. 0.99

00:52:35.840 And it's, we have been hearing for so long that queer people are disgusting and trans 1.00

00:52:43.500 people deserve to die and women should be sexually assaulted if they don't behave. 1.00

00:52:47.860 Yeah. 1.00

00:52:48.060 And so we make jokes about sperm count decreasing and men respond with, you should die. 0.97

00:52:54.080 Yeah. 0.97

00:52:54.380 Like, no, I'm sorry.

00:52:55.180 It is different.

00:52:56.200 We're punching up still.

00:52:57.760 That's what I've always told them.

00:52:59.380 And I've even told, I even told someone too once that like they, well, first of all,

00:53:05.260 you react to my reaction as opposed to reacting to the bigotry first.

00:53:08.860 That's your first knee jerk thing is to react to me and not to someone who antagonized me.

00:53:14.240 So that's one, right?

00:53:15.760 Two, my looks play a factor.

00:53:17.380 Like me not being thin and white plays a huge factor, which I've talked about.

00:53:20.900 But talking about race makes them go like, like they start sputtering and they don't 0.98

00:53:25.640 know what to say.

00:53:26.280 So like this again.

00:53:27.180 Yeah.

00:53:27.700 Oh, every time.

00:53:29.500 Like they just like, because it's true and it is applicable in every situation.

00:53:33.880 But a slur is in their handle.

00:53:35.900 And they're like, that's different.

00:53:37.280 That's a joke.

00:53:38.160 And I, and I even think too, like I told someone the fact that you think that I should

00:53:43.960 like you feel entitled to a calm and like reasonable and level-headed response to your

00:53:51.780 active bigotry is like the problem.

00:53:54.700 You feel entitled to it, even no matter how awful you are to any marginalized person with 0.94

00:54:00.200 no provocation and for no fucking reason, um, you feel entitled to their patience and 0.90

00:54:05.620 their kindness because that is what you've always been afforded your entire life. 0.97

00:54:09.960 Like I've talked about how they hate me so much because my platform is the one table

00:54:14.580 they don't have a seat at and you don't get to defend yourself.

00:54:18.000 I'm not going to let you defend yourself.

00:54:19.580 It's a dictatorship in mind.

00:54:21.660 It's a literal dictatorship.

00:54:23.080 Like if I, I get to decide the media that is consumed on mine, I get to tell my loyal subjects

00:54:29.520 what is good and what is bad.

00:54:31.460 And they're smart enough to know the difference.

00:54:33.600 Yeah.

00:54:33.840 So that's why I'm like, that's why I have a platform.

00:54:36.280 Right.

00:54:37.020 And you still live with your mom. 1.00

00:54:38.520 That's why that happens because you are awful. 0.99

00:54:41.600 And I am actually like saying something. 0.99

00:54:44.060 I'm like, just cause I tell people to suck my wiener doesn't mean that I'm not smart enough 0.99

00:54:47.520 to have a conversation about intersectionality. 1.00

00:54:49.760 Bitch. 1.00

00:54:50.220 If you don't recognize that the term wiener is satire, you shouldn't be in the comment 1.00

00:54:56.280 section.

00:54:58.380 Nobody is saying wiener.

00:55:00.660 Seriously.

00:55:01.140 One time I was talking about, um, I saw something on Twitter, which like that app is absolute

00:55:08.840 dumpster fire, but I saw someone being fat phobic as they typically are on their, like 0.79

00:55:14.020 just the world's worst men in the world.

00:55:16.180 Like, I thought it was all the world's best people.

00:55:19.560 Twitter.

00:55:20.220 They had Twitter HQ.

00:55:21.420 That's where they convene.

00:55:22.540 And I, uh, saw this guy just, they just rip videos from other platforms.

00:55:27.880 And it's like, it's literally just normal women going through the work day and eating.

00:55:32.340 Um, but they're fat women are plus size women. 1.00

00:55:34.600 And, um, they're like, this is disgusting. 1.00

00:55:36.480 And it's just a bunch of like horrible pussy list losers. 1.00

00:55:40.140 It's just all like being like, oh, disgusting, disgusting. 1.00

00:55:42.240 I hate it.

00:55:43.220 And I was talking about like, I was like the people in the responses to this deserve nothing

00:55:48.380 in this life.

00:55:48.880 Like truly, like you will wander through life aimless and without fulfillment for the rest 1.00

00:55:53.360 of your lives because the universe is going to withhold that from an awful fucking person 1.00

00:55:57.100 like yourself. 1.00

00:55:58.440 And someone tried to talk to me about like, oh, it's processed foods.

00:56:01.620 Like blah, blah, blah.

00:56:02.100 I'm like the way all of you get an MD, the minute you see a fat person living is crazy.

00:56:06.820 You see that person eating a snack online and they're like, well, clearly they have all

00:56:11.700 these different ailments that I wouldn't know.

00:56:13.520 Cause I didn't even graduate from high school.

00:56:15.280 Listen to me when I say this men's obsession with women's eating. 1.00

00:56:20.100 It takes y'all famously 45 minutes to shit. 1.00

00:56:25.100 Who's eating better. 1.00

00:56:27.480 Okay.

00:56:28.140 Who am I taking health tips from?

00:56:29.900 Even when I say them, when they try to comment on my body, I'm like, well, send me a picture

00:56:33.460 of your shirtless body.

00:56:34.340 I need to know the physique. 0.78

00:56:35.460 I need to see it.

00:56:36.540 I want to know who's giving me the tip. 0.99

00:56:38.860 I will pay you $1,700 to see your boobs. 1.00

00:56:43.680 Let me see them. 0.99

00:56:44.680 I'll send you the money.

00:56:45.860 And I can't send me your cash.

00:56:48.380 I can't make that promise to you.

00:56:51.380 And I even talked to someone like they literally were like, oh, it's all processed foods, like

00:56:54.660 blah, blah, blah.

00:56:55.180 And I even said in my thing, I'm like, do y'all want to have a conversation about why

00:56:58.680 some people only have access to processed foods?

00:57:01.220 Do you guys really, do you guys want to talk about redlining?

00:57:03.420 Do you guys want to have that conversation?

00:57:04.440 Oh, here it comes.

00:57:05.920 I was like, or does the conversation only begin and end with fat phobia?

00:57:09.600 We were just having fun.

00:57:11.880 Then they're like, ah, you take things so seriously.

00:57:14.620 It was a joke.

00:57:16.480 A joke.

00:57:16.900 The way that they've weaponized, it was just a joke.

00:57:20.460 And yet none of it is funny at all.

00:57:22.860 Yeah.

00:57:23.160 Who's laughing?

00:57:23.880 No one's laughing.

00:57:25.220 And that's why y'all aren't comedians.

00:57:27.160 That's why you don't have jobs.

00:57:28.840 I literally, I went to dinner with Caleb and he had said, we were talking about that, like

00:57:35.320 how men like truly, they'll make one fat joke and they're like, I should quit my job.

00:57:40.520 I should move to LA, move over Laugh Factory.

00:57:43.620 I'm moving in.

00:57:44.580 Girl, go workshop a type five at the Laugh Factory tomorrow.

00:57:49.280 Bring your best fat jokes.

00:57:50.540 My favorite, when I was like 18 or 19, I was like starting in Chicago and I was like

00:57:55.880 going to see standup to see if it was something I wanted to do.

00:57:58.040 And I went to this open mic and it was, this guy was up there and it was me and another

00:58:04.780 person and we were the only not male people in this space.

00:58:08.260 And he immediately was like, oh, we got two ladies here. 1.00

00:58:13.100 And we were like, okay, like nervous.

00:58:17.980 Uh oh.

00:58:18.320 And then his set truly started with like, I hate my girlfriend.

00:58:23.180 I wish she was there. 1.00

00:58:24.960 If I could kill her. 1.00

00:58:26.280 And we were like, okay, well, we should head out. 0.99

00:58:29.460 And so we stood up to leave.

00:58:31.220 And mind you, he'd just been like, hey, beautiful girlies, girlies, girlies, ladies, girls. 1.00

00:58:36.020 And so we stood up to leave and he was like, fuck you, bitch. 1.00

00:58:40.620 And he started screaming. 1.00

00:58:42.560 We didn't know this man.

00:58:44.160 We had not interacted at all outside of him being on stage.

00:58:46.820 And the switch was so fast.

00:58:49.340 It's on a dime.

00:58:50.360 And at that time, I thought I was bisexual.

00:58:54.240 And so I actually came on this podcast to thank him.

00:58:58.260 Trixie and Katia call that bi now, gay later.

00:59:02.000 Yes.

00:59:02.960 And that was me.

00:59:03.860 But I was converted.

00:59:05.100 Like I did straight up gay conversion therapy.

00:59:08.020 And it was me just trying to be bi.

00:59:10.320 Really? 0.98

00:59:10.820 Me going into the world and being like, I feel like if I have sex with some more men, maybe 0.89

00:59:15.680 it will make my mom realize how hard I tried to be straight.

00:59:19.360 And then every time I would do it, I'd be like, so sad.

00:59:25.340 You're like clocking in.

00:59:27.100 You're like, time to get in there.

00:59:29.260 Truly clocking in.

00:59:30.780 Or the times I was like, this was fun.

00:59:32.720 I realized it was because I was having an experience of being like, my body's beautiful.

00:59:37.160 You're just looking at yourself the whole time.

00:59:38.900 And that's so real.

00:59:40.880 Yeah, I am so real being right now.

00:59:42.620 You're like.

00:59:43.720 And then I check in.

00:59:44.560 In the mirror, you're like.

00:59:45.400 Oh, 100%. 0.99

00:59:46.180 Then checking in with him and being like, shut up. 0.97

00:59:49.220 You're like, I honestly forgot you were here. 0.95

00:59:51.140 Yes.

00:59:51.600 Now I'm bummed out.

00:59:52.460 Yeah.

00:59:52.960 I feel.

00:59:53.720 The vibe's been killed now.

00:59:54.580 When I was having sex with men, I feel the same way about my body that I do when I

00:59:58.140 have my period, which is like most of the time I feel very genderless. 0.99

01:00:00.560 And then when I'm on my period, I full ass am the most beautiful woman on earth.

01:00:05.520 Like the hormones truly take over my body. 0.98

01:00:08.340 And my like tits get massive and I'm walking around and I'm like kind of glowing and I'm 0.93

01:00:13.440 like, maybe I should get pregnant. 0.99

01:00:16.120 And then my period stops and I'm like, oh, these bags of Sam's.

01:00:21.040 It's a full hormonal non-binary experience. 1.00

01:00:24.340 And you're like, I don't know that person at all.

01:00:26.600 Actually, I kind of lost my nut a little bit. 0.94

01:00:28.760 I hate her.

01:00:29.340 Sorry, guys.

01:00:30.880 Sorry, y'all.

01:00:31.700 That was a mistake.

01:00:32.700 I was talking crazy. 0.96

01:00:33.900 That was on me, but the titties was nice. 0.80

01:00:34.980 We liked it, but I was temporarily not myself.

01:00:41.140 Yeah.

01:00:41.420 I was somebody else for a minute.

01:00:42.940 Sorry about that.

01:00:43.460 Yeah.

01:00:43.580 That's my DUI.

01:00:44.440 It's like Jim Carrey in the mask.

01:00:45.700 Yeah.

01:00:46.100 Just put it on, turn it into a different person.

01:00:47.420 That is me.

01:00:49.380 You're like, I relate to him a lot.

01:00:51.180 Yeah.

01:00:51.420 Actually.

01:00:52.280 Jim Carrey in the mask is the trans experience. 1.00

01:00:54.000 That's how I get canceled.

01:00:58.620 God.

01:01:00.460 They're waiting in the wings.

01:01:01.740 I think the experience with like, that's so real.

01:01:06.000 If you're like, I look so good.

01:01:08.860 Especially with men, I think too.

01:01:10.540 It's like, I've talked about before how like men, when men are like, oh, I'm not attracted

01:01:15.680 to you.

01:01:15.980 I'm like, sure, buddy.

01:01:17.980 That's why you've commented on my last 10 photos.

01:01:20.760 Like I do that to people I think are ugly.

01:01:23.140 I for sure do. 0.93

01:01:24.460 People that I find disgusting, I follow them on everything.

01:01:28.020 A hundred percent.

01:01:28.640 That's what I do personally.

01:01:30.180 When in reality, we don't even know that they exist.

01:01:32.520 Like when I don't find you attractive and I go to your profile and I, cause I'm trying 1.00

01:01:35.960 to see who was calling me like a faggot. 0.98

01:01:39.240 But I like go to the thing and it's, it's like just the American flag. 0.98

01:01:43.140 And then you've got three photos of you sitting on the back of your truck.

01:01:46.860 And once I see who you are, I never think about you ever again for the rest of my life

01:01:54.900 or yours.

01:01:55.540 You become so dead to me.

01:01:57.480 No one's been more dead than you folks to me.

01:02:00.480 And when I go to your profile and I see that it's just some woman with like a cross, it's 1.00

01:02:04.860 like, be kind, stay blessed. 0.98

01:02:07.220 And you have just told me to go kill myself. 0.97

01:02:10.620 I never think about you ever again. 0.98

01:02:14.740 Nobody's less important to anyone than y'all are to me.

01:02:18.220 I couldn't pick you out of the lineup to be honest with you.

01:02:20.800 Line them up.

01:02:21.480 They all look the same.

01:02:22.240 It's like paper dolls.

01:02:23.620 Like when you cut them and then you just open them, they're all exactly the same.

01:02:27.160 Especially men who hate me.

01:02:28.640 Like it's, I had a guy literally like two days ago.

01:02:32.840 So he wrote on a picture of my, my boyfriend, like who's like an avid and active, like intersectional

01:02:40.600 feminist.

01:02:40.840 It's like very obvious.

01:02:42.080 I mean, obviously he's with me and lucky him, but if he was the worst, he wouldn't be with

01:02:46.820 me.

01:02:47.040 Right.

01:02:47.740 So the only man we love truly literally.

01:02:50.460 And we were, he had posted like it was a brand deal.

01:02:53.680 And so, uh, with our favorite, one of our favorite companies change who I did like clothing

01:02:58.240 with and they're so wonderful.

01:02:59.740 Cause they're like me just doing an ad for them, but they're just like set their size and

01:03:02.820 inclusive and genderless clothing, which we love and stand.

01:03:05.640 And it's sustainable too, which is awesome.

01:03:08.000 So they have this shirt that we did, um, brand deals for.

01:03:11.340 And it says like respecting, only respecting women you're attracted to is not respecting

01:03:16.260 women is what it says on the shirt. 1.00

01:03:18.820 And so my boyfriend posted pictures in it and obviously he loves the shirt.

01:03:22.400 We both, uh, love, like we both advertise the same article of clothing. 0.97

01:03:27.480 And this guy literally commented on the picture and was talking shit on me, like basically 0.99

01:03:33.100 saying like, I, I call people ugly. 0.99

01:03:35.780 So that shirt is like hypocritical. 0.98

01:03:38.620 And I'm like, it says respect. 0.98

01:03:40.780 I don't respect you.

01:03:42.340 That's the part you're missing. 1.00

01:03:43.680 I have no respect for men who are, who hate women for no fucking reason. 0.99

01:03:48.280 I don't respect them at all. 0.99

01:03:49.400 Uh, so I'm allowed to call them ugly by the rules, like by the rules that you're laying

01:03:53.040 out, I find them ugly.

01:03:54.820 Yes. 0.99

01:03:55.240 And I said, I've said misogynists are ugly and that includes you. 0.98

01:03:58.660 That's like all I wrote back to him and you're proving my point once again at another point 0.98

01:04:02.660 to the board.

01:04:03.220 I love that.

01:04:04.060 I think that's so true.

01:04:05.060 I think, I think most of the time when, when I'm thinking about appearance, I actually have

01:04:11.920 a really serious filter in my brain where if you're a good person, I will genuinely be

01:04:17.140 like, they're the hottest person that ever lived.

01:04:20.120 And the minute that you're a bully, I'll like, look at your page. 1.00

01:04:23.260 I don't give a shit. 1.00

01:04:24.240 Disgust. 1.00

01:04:24.540 You are, disgust. 1.00

01:04:26.560 Disgust and disdain and just everything about you makes, gives me the ick. 0.98

01:04:30.500 And it's actually, it's actually feels physical to me where people will be like, oh, I know

01:04:35.440 he did that thing, but he's so hot and I legitimately cannot see it.

01:04:39.360 Me either.

01:04:40.200 I can't see it.

01:04:41.060 It's gone.

01:04:41.860 It's gone.

01:04:42.480 It's literally gone.

01:04:43.200 But it's so unimportant.

01:04:44.140 It's so important, but we are in an industry where people are beautiful.

01:04:48.040 So like, you know what I mean?

01:04:49.100 And that is a benefit to, that's like a benefit to your job is being an attractive person in

01:04:54.280 some way.

01:04:54.900 And so it really loses its effect.

01:04:57.400 Like, I'm not out here being like wowed by like other celebrities that I'm working with.

01:05:02.640 I'm like wowed when someone is really kind and talks to the PAs.

01:05:07.500 Especially in this industry.

01:05:08.620 Yes.

01:05:09.100 And is like, is off book.

01:05:11.900 You know what I mean?

01:05:12.760 Like, I'm like, wow, what a stunningly gorgeous person.

01:05:17.720 No, no, actually.

01:05:18.720 And that's because you see people as humans.

01:05:20.820 You don't see them as like things.

01:05:22.960 And that's the difference.

01:05:23.780 Like men, men see women as objects and with no autonomy or brain or, or thoughts or feelings, 0.98

01:05:29.600 which is why they're like, this one's ugly. 0.95

01:05:31.800 This one's not.

01:05:32.460 And, but it also, at the same time, they're so fickle with that ideology too, because I

01:05:38.720 don't know if you saw recently, but like, I guess on Twitter, there was like this trend

01:05:42.220 going around where they were calling Margot Robbie and Zendaya ugly. 0.94

01:05:46.180 And I said, you've all gone insane. 0.82

01:05:49.140 The world is truly ending. 1.00

01:05:50.820 What the fuck are you talking, like respectfully, what the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

01:05:54.260 And I talked about it in a video because I'm like, these men, like, like, I just like 1.00

01:05:59.560 respectfully or disrespectfully, I don't give a fuck how you take it. 0.97

01:06:02.740 Look in the mirror. 1.00

01:06:03.840 They look like dog treats, bro.

01:06:05.160 Just be honest with yourself.

01:06:06.520 Like, be honest with yourself.

01:06:08.420 Like, if you were in front, like, let's just say Margot Robbie lost her mind for a second 0.94

01:06:12.840 and was like, you, I want you to come to my house and kiss me on the lips. 0.99

01:06:17.980 You're telling me that you'd be like, you're ugly. 1.00

01:06:19.980 No, you're a fucking liar. 1.00

01:06:22.080 Like, you're the same guy who would pay $1,700 to see a picture of boobs. 1.00

01:06:25.480 I don't believe you. 1.00

01:06:26.560 I think you're a liar.

01:06:27.220 I think that men feel the same way about women that I feel about an Alexa, where they're 0.99

01:06:33.820 like, they are looking at this thing as an object.

01:06:36.080 So when it has thoughts and feelings, they're like, shut up.

01:06:38.720 And when I want to turn on a radio and it's like, what do you want to listen to? 1.00

01:06:45.260 I'm like, bitch. 0.99

01:06:47.620 Don't start with me today. 1.00

01:06:48.780 I did not come here for a conversation.

01:06:50.820 I need a speaker.

01:06:52.000 You have one job and you're not even doing that.

01:06:56.120 No, no, no.

01:06:56.600 You're not even doing that. 0.99

01:06:58.140 And I even told, that's why I said like, male validation is fucking worthless. 1.00

01:07:01.600 It's so worthless. 1.00

01:07:02.620 It's so fickle.

01:07:03.380 It's not real.

01:07:04.200 It's not based in anything.

01:07:05.460 And I was like, it's because it just, it doesn't mean anything. 0.86

01:07:08.520 Like they're going to look at Zendan and be like, ugly girl.

01:07:11.940 And then the only pictures they could use of her were pictures where she's playing someone

01:07:18.260 going through active addiction on Euphoria.

01:07:20.540 And they're like, well, look, oh, and I'm sorry, but like, and even then she has no makeup 0.67

01:07:25.240 on her face and she's gorgeous.

01:07:26.740 It's one of the hotter things I've ever seen her do with Euphoria because you realize like

01:07:31.640 just how like bare bones, like she has to be to be that gorgeous. 1.00

01:07:36.440 No, truly. 0.99

01:07:37.120 And was like the so queer chic, like beautiful fucking like under eye lines and like all this 1.00

01:07:44.480 like, oh my God, and the big hair and the baggy clothing. 0.98

01:07:47.940 And I like, that was for me. 1.00

01:07:51.160 I don't know what the fuck y'all are talking about. 0.99

01:07:52.740 That was moving. 0.99

01:07:55.040 That was moving.

01:07:55.940 Cause I'm also getting to the age where like, I, you know, that, that like, that, like Tom

01:08:00.900 Holland is coming up and you know, he's, he's like this like sex icon for like, I guess

01:08:06.340 like teens and stuff.

01:08:07.360 And I'm like, but no, he's a teen.

01:08:09.000 And then I look it up and he's like 22 and I'm like, what?

01:08:12.880 You're literally a child.

01:08:14.780 Yeah.

01:08:15.220 So then, so I, it's, it's a really funny thing with Zendaya where I just wasn't paying attention

01:08:19.680 to her at all because she was younger and I hadn't grown up watching her on like Disney

01:08:22.940 channel or anything.

01:08:23.700 Same.

01:08:23.960 And then I was like, this is our next queer icon.

01:08:28.540 Literally had no idea, had no idea that this was like the most famous person on earth known

01:08:34.380 for her beauty.

01:08:35.080 Yeah.

01:08:35.700 Well, and I think too, like part of the allure to someone like Tom Holland is how he is

01:08:41.420 with her.

01:08:42.040 Like that's like a huge portion of like what fine, what women find attractive about him.

01:08:47.820 And that's the, that's the true tea, isn't it?

01:08:49.740 Because he's like, he's not ugly by any means, but she is like a showstoppingly beautiful.

01:08:56.460 Like she is just like truly like you couldn't find a face like that.

01:08:59.240 Like she's gorgeous, like so incredibly unique in the way she looks.

01:09:03.940 And he is just like in love with her and he's a white thing ever.

01:09:07.260 And he's a white British guy.

01:09:08.680 Like he's like a run of the mill white dude. 0.68

01:09:11.120 Right.

01:09:11.600 Absolutely.

01:09:11.920 Which is not shade.

01:09:12.820 I'm being serious.

01:09:13.480 Like he's just like, he's a good looking white man.

01:09:16.420 Yes.

01:09:16.780 And she's like a jaw dropping one of a kind face and talent. 0.99

01:09:20.760 And that's why you like, people are like, oh my God, he's so sexy.

01:09:24.680 And it's literally because he is nice to her.

01:09:27.820 Yeah.

01:09:28.380 And he respects her and loves her and doesn't stand on like an apple box on the red carpet.

01:09:33.540 But next to her, like lets her wear heels, lets her, but like has, you know, she wears 0.99

01:09:37.380 heels and he's like looking up at her and all these photos. 1.00

01:09:40.260 And I'm like, I'd fuck that little guy. 1.00

01:09:42.760 Listen, absolutely. 1.00

01:09:45.380 I'd sit on that, man.

01:09:47.860 That's, that's what people find attractive. 0.51

01:09:50.340 And that's, it goes back to what we said at the very beginning, which is like, it's actually

01:09:53.760 quite easy.

01:09:54.940 If you're a man who is attracted to women, it's quite easy to catch their fancy as, as long

01:10:01.300 as you're nice, but that's too big of an ask for a lot of y'all.

01:10:04.660 And that's why you act that way.

01:10:05.820 If you take out sex, if you take out like male and female and you have a conversation

01:10:10.700 about gender, that's not like focused on American culturalism.

01:10:15.000 So it's not about masculinity being dominating and femininity being like small and helpless

01:10:19.220 and killable.

01:10:19.900 So the, the real conversation that you can start to have is that masculinity is this beautiful,

01:10:27.680 sweet, joyful little ball of chaos that we love.

01:10:31.620 Right.

01:10:31.900 Like, like I, I find that that is like how my masculinity shows itself in the playful side

01:10:38.520 of things.

01:10:39.560 And in the reverse of that femininity over here is this big, wide, beautiful, powerful, calm.

01:10:49.640 Yeah.

01:10:50.480 And so if you look at masculinity and femininity and why they pair so well together is masculinity

01:10:55.380 really entertains femininity because it's so calm and beautiful and big.

01:10:59.880 And here's this small, chaotic, joyful little thing.

01:11:03.040 And then in real life, oftentimes a masked person or a male person tends to be bigger.

01:11:09.340 Yeah.

01:11:09.860 Right.

01:11:10.160 So they're physically bigger, but that, what that can really equate to is if I'm bigger than

01:11:14.380 something, it's my job to protect it.

01:11:16.020 Yeah.

01:11:16.340 So I'm getting to serve this thing that is spiritually larger than me, which is how I

01:11:21.380 feel about women.

01:11:22.360 I'm getting to, with my little joyful ball of chaos, I get to be, I'm bigger than my

01:11:27.880 partner and I get to spiritually like, or physically foster her vastness.

01:11:33.040 Yeah.

01:11:33.320 And I think that American men in particular think that masculinity is I'm bigger than her,

01:11:38.760 so I'm better than her and I have to keep her in her place.

01:11:42.080 Yeah. 0.99

01:11:42.640 But because that means that they don't understand femininity, it means they can't fuck and it 1.00

01:11:48.040 means they can't love. 1.00

01:11:49.100 Period.

01:11:49.340 And they're like, why am I alone?

01:11:51.180 It's because you do not love femininity for exactly what it is, which is the biggest thing 0.94

01:11:54.680 in the world.

01:11:55.140 Yeah.

01:11:55.600 That's so, wow.

01:11:56.600 Look at you.

01:11:57.120 So insightful.

01:11:58.440 I think to go based off what you just said, that's another reason why I think my community

01:12:05.340 that I've built online is obsessed with my boyfriend because I'm someone who's like large

01:12:11.980 and loud physically and spiritually and like, I'm someone who takes up a lot of space and

01:12:21.220 likes to be confident and assured in who I am and what I want in this life.

01:12:27.680 And my boyfriend loves that about me.

01:12:30.780 It's one of the reasons why he fell in love with me, which is so anti like man, according

01:12:36.860 to their, their binary standards.

01:12:39.800 He lets me be large and beautiful and take up space because that's something that drew

01:12:46.200 him to me.

01:12:47.040 So he knows it's going to draw other people to me.

01:12:49.080 And what's more masculine than that?

01:12:50.420 No, truly.

01:12:51.180 That's what I'm saying.

01:12:52.140 Like he's, he's attracted to it because he finds beauty and joy in it.

01:12:57.040 And he wants other people to experience that too about me.

01:12:59.980 And that's me just gassing myself, but that's him.

01:13:02.500 No, that's you gassing him.

01:13:03.760 And that's what he's told me.

01:13:05.160 And he's told me like, that's, I made him want to be a better man.

01:13:09.180 I made him want to be a better person.

01:13:10.460 I made him want to try harder and be more loving and empathetic and open.

01:13:13.900 And that's all you can really ask of a partner, right?

01:13:16.140 Like someone who makes you want to be a better person.

01:13:18.300 So that's why I'm like binary aside, cause gender is not real.

01:13:21.480 It's literally a man-made construct.

01:13:23.120 But if we were to operate within it, like if you just give your partner the space to be who they really are, you'll like, you'll experience love and happiness too.

01:13:34.560 I promise you will.

01:13:35.540 You'll expand as well.

01:13:36.700 You will.

01:13:37.280 You'll become a better version of yourself.

01:13:39.120 Like you'll level up and you'll be somebody who went their whole life.

01:13:43.540 Like I had a guy once tell me like, if I had seen her five years ago, I would have hated her too.

01:13:49.220 Like if I had seen her, like it was like a cis straight white man. 0.65

01:13:53.140 And he's like, but five years ago, like I was miserable and I was unhappy.

01:13:57.000 But he said he did a lot of the work.

01:13:58.880 Like he really sat with himself and was like, why am I so unhappy?

01:14:02.080 Like, why am I so angry?

01:14:03.160 Why am I so unhappy?

01:14:04.180 And he did a lot of reading and he read a lot about, you know, the different systemic oppression structures that exist in our world.

01:14:12.540 He read a lot about the patriarchy.

01:14:13.980 He read a lot about capitalism.

01:14:15.080 He read about feminism, right? 0.96

01:14:16.720 And just intersectionality in general.

01:14:18.280 And he educated himself and he realized that he was so unhappy because he was trying to fit into a box that didn't leave him any space to truly be who he wanted to be without fear of judgment or retaliation because men are violent.

01:14:34.100 So he said once he came to terms with that and he did all this reading and he became a better person, he like found a better life.

01:14:41.100 Like he found love and happiness and joy and fulfillment.

01:14:44.640 And so he was like, I'm grateful now that I existed in a like in a space where I could like confront that and be honest with myself and move forward and grow.

01:14:56.800 And he was saying how he compared me to the story of like a dog and a nail.

01:15:00.360 And he was saying like every day you hear a dog sit on a nail and it yelps, but it never moves.

01:15:05.280 Right.

01:15:05.540 It doesn't sit anywhere else.

01:15:06.760 And when when you ask, like, why does the dog keep sitting if it hurts?

01:15:11.020 The answer is because it doesn't hurt enough yet.

01:15:13.020 Right.

01:15:13.560 So he's like someone like her needs to hurt people just enough for them to really think about like, why do why does she bother me so much?

01:15:22.200 Like, why does that content hit me?

01:15:24.260 Right.

01:15:24.440 Why does that make me feel some type of way?

01:15:25.960 And you kind of confront your own internalized biases.

01:15:28.500 Well, and in de-centering himself, he finds community.

01:15:31.400 Yeah.

01:15:31.980 Actually, you can't be in the middle of something and not feel isolated.

01:15:35.840 Yeah.

01:15:36.140 Like once you become once you start to really listen to and like gather other people around you in a respectful and beautiful way.

01:15:43.340 You find that group that you're looking for and then you're not as lonely.

01:15:46.640 But if you were the center of the universe, what a lonely place to be.

01:15:50.600 Truly.

01:15:51.500 And you're the only person there.

01:15:52.860 Yeah. 1.00

01:15:53.360 It's like and no one wants to be around you because you think you're the center of the fucking universe. 1.00

01:15:57.400 Yeah. 0.98

01:15:57.540 So speaking of community, though, and finding community.

01:16:01.000 Yes.

01:16:01.380 Let's talk about the community you found within music.

01:16:04.180 Oh, yeah.

01:16:04.480 What's going on with you and your music journey?

01:16:06.800 You know, I am so lucky right now.

01:16:09.360 I've got a bunch of friends that are doing really well in the music space and they are all queer. 1.00

01:16:16.420 Period.

01:16:16.980 Yes.

01:16:17.340 I love that.

01:16:17.860 And I met a lot of these people.

01:16:21.800 I was doing Lucy Dacus's music video for Night Shift.

01:16:25.300 Love, love, love.

01:16:26.100 I love Lucy.

01:16:27.120 An absolute icon.

01:16:28.120 And Lucy had brought all of these people in for the video that that she knew from other spaces, other, you know, sectors of her art world.

01:16:38.520 And we all found each other.

01:16:40.220 We met at this video and we all just became this little unit that now like we travel and we do vacations together and we're in each other's music videos and we go to each other's premieres.

01:16:50.660 And so, you know, I'll name some of the queer artists that are in that space like Liza Ann. 0.99

01:16:56.860 My friend Liza Ann just came out with their single Cheerleader, which is this awesome non-binary anthem.

01:17:03.360 And Beckham and Kari is coming out with music.

01:17:05.700 A great album.

01:17:07.240 Also, all these themes of being like a person of color and a non-binary person in the space.

01:17:12.400 And you boy genius is doing so iconically well right now.

01:17:15.620 It's like it's so awesome to watch all these queer artists do well.

01:17:18.720 And at the same time that this was happening, I had been I was writing and finalizing my album.

01:17:24.160 Like I had recorded it all and was.

01:17:26.220 Congratulations.

01:17:26.840 Thank you.

01:17:28.080 And now I'm in the I've been spending on these these last few months like being in their music videos and like kind of amping them up.

01:17:36.420 And so it's I actually feel really like warm because I had a single called Bad Man come out last week.

01:17:41.620 And all of those same people who I've been like, you know, really amped about their art are amped about mine. 0.83

01:17:48.800 And that's like the beauty of community is truly it's just so nice of like you can call it a fucking echo chamber if you want to.

01:17:55.340 But what it really is, is like I love these people and their art and they love me and my art.

01:18:02.220 And so we are we're like making each other excited.

01:18:06.640 Yeah.

01:18:06.860 And affirming each other, like giving each other words of affirmation and support, like cost nothing really.

01:18:12.000 And creating supportive.

01:18:13.300 No, it costs nothing.

01:18:14.200 And to be and to create this queer community.

01:18:17.280 Like I do think that that's one of the best things about having queer community is that we know that there's room for all of us.

01:18:25.780 Yeah, it's it's not this like only one shall live mentality.

01:18:29.280 Yeah.

01:18:30.440 And so, yeah, I've been getting a lot of great feedback and a lot of great support from these folks about my album violence that's coming out in October.

01:18:41.680 And like truly, you know, we've been talking about violence, though.

01:18:45.540 Yeah.

01:18:45.780 For me, the the whole concept of the album was writing about like queer love and queer sex and depression and things like this, but completely de-centering the center.

01:18:56.860 And so we live in this in this like in my art space.

01:19:00.840 I'm in this like wonderfully queer Wild West. 0.75

01:19:03.780 And these are all the themes that like I'm singing about and exploring.

01:19:07.980 And the violence is that I don't care about what anybody else thinks about this world.

01:19:14.860 Absolutely.

01:19:15.460 I'm not I'm not trying to make pop music for like straight men to get off to.

01:19:21.140 Like for them to be like, yeah, I'm trying to make queer music for queer people.

01:19:26.080 And I love it when other people love it.

01:19:28.740 But that's what it's for.

01:19:29.800 Yeah, absolutely.

01:19:30.900 That's like Caleb.

01:19:32.740 When he said he came on the show, he told me that his art.

01:19:36.440 Right.

01:19:36.660 Obviously, his is comedy.

01:19:38.420 But he was saying my target audience is not you.

01:19:41.380 Like when straight men are so like, well, I hate this. 0.52

01:19:44.560 Well, it's not for you.

01:19:45.600 That's OK.

01:19:46.340 Yeah.

01:19:46.540 You don't have to like in fact, please don't.

01:19:48.140 I'm OK with that.

01:19:49.320 And he was that's not your target audience either.

01:19:51.600 If they fall into it and they like it.

01:19:54.080 Great.

01:19:54.540 That's great.

01:19:55.040 And you're not the person I'm aiming for.

01:19:56.800 The good ones do.

01:19:58.120 Exactly.

01:19:58.860 You can see when you're on like a Spotify or something, you like Spotify for artists.

01:20:02.320 It shows you the demographics that's listening to your stuff.

01:20:04.680 Yeah.

01:20:04.880 Like, y'all, I've got it's like 90 percent women and then non-binary people and then it's

01:20:12.240 men. 0.99

01:20:12.700 Like men are full ass like, oh, no, this isn't for me. 1.00

01:20:15.780 And women and queer people are so trained to to consume art that's not tailored to them. 1.00

01:20:20.860 Yeah.

01:20:21.060 But men aren't.

01:20:22.080 And my like the first song that I came out with is a song called Bad Man.

01:20:26.240 And it is legitimately a song that talking to women being like, hey, there's masculinity 0.99

01:20:31.820 over here and we won't hurt you.

01:20:33.280 So and men were like, I think I'm not going to listen to that one.

01:20:37.820 Like, that's fine.

01:20:40.920 Well, I'm so incredibly excited for you.

01:20:43.840 Congratulations.

01:20:44.560 Thank you so much.

01:20:45.400 Please, everyone go stream it.

01:20:46.980 Y'all know already you can find it on all streaming platforms, but especially Spotify.

01:20:51.040 And I think before we go really quick, what you said about community and how supportive

01:20:55.120 and loving it is, I saw Trixie Mattel do an interview recently where they were saying,

01:20:59.760 what do you have to say about people who are like, you want my child to be gay?

01:21:03.080 Like, you know, it's like the war on drag, which is really the war on trans people. 0.95

01:21:07.460 And she said, I don't care if your child turns out to be gay or isn't.

01:21:13.140 But what I do care about is if they do turn out to be gay, I hope they find community a

01:21:17.820 lot faster than most of us did.

01:21:19.360 And that's truly because people like her and you exist in the space where you're so visible

01:21:25.380 that it gives people like almost like, like not to be cheesy, but it's almost like a lighthouse.

01:21:31.560 It gives them something to follow and to go towards as opposed to just wandering aimlessly.

01:21:37.000 Right.

01:21:37.460 Because they have no representation.

01:21:39.080 Representation is like one of the few things that makes me emotional.

01:21:41.120 Well, I'm kidding.

01:21:42.760 I'm feeling a weird tear coming on.

01:21:45.200 Well, it's important.

01:21:46.340 It's just I feel like people like you especially are so important to be in media and all different

01:21:52.880 media spaces because there are just so many people who have never had someone like you.

01:21:57.540 And now that they do, they get to feel this kind of like they get to feel what you feel

01:22:02.860 with your community.

01:22:03.620 They get to feel it, too, whether it's just through the screen.

01:22:06.060 Right.

01:22:07.180 And I also want to end on a silly note that a lot of people have said that my show is 0.84

01:22:12.480 literally just the world's most famous lesbians, gay people, and drag queens. 0.60

01:22:16.720 And I'm OK with that. 1.00

01:22:18.580 Well, I would say you're a representative, like a lighthouse for the bad bitch community. 1.00

01:22:23.380 Let's do it. 0.99

01:22:23.980 What were you saying earlier that Caleb had said to you is like gay adjacent? 0.94

01:22:28.840 Yeah, fruity adjacent. 0.76

01:22:30.100 Fruity adjacent straight women, the biggest ballers on the planet. 1.00

01:22:35.860 That's a fact. 0.97

01:22:36.680 With the biggest balls on the planet. 0.99

01:22:38.700 A hundred. 1.00

01:22:39.280 And the only not side sucks. 0.99

01:22:42.940 Period. 0.95

01:22:44.480 Thank you so much for coming on the show.

01:22:46.300 I adore you.

01:22:46.780 Thank you for having me.

01:22:47.020 You're amazing.

01:22:48.040 Thank you all for tuning into this episode.

01:22:50.280 Please make sure y'all go find and follow ER on literally everything.

01:22:53.920 Where can everybody find you?

01:22:55.600 You can find me on Instagram and anywhere else as genderlessgapad.

01:22:59.980 And of course, on Spotify.

01:23:02.380 We love Spotify.

01:23:03.460 As Fightmaster.

01:23:05.420 Exactly.

01:23:06.100 Thank you so much to ER.

01:23:07.600 Thank you all for joining us this week.

01:23:09.540 And don't forget, new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday.

01:23:12.980 And they are exclusively on Spotify.

01:23:15.660 Spotify.

01:23:16.140 I'll see you next week.

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The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - August 02, 2023

YOU’RE NOT THE NEXT BILLIONAIRE, DAVID ｜ Drew Afualo & E.R. Fightmaster ｜ THE COMMENT SECTION EP 77

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